August 21, 2023 • 17 mins
Former Daily Show Correspondent Ed Helms investigates why liquor and firearms don't mix and checks in on Massachusetts' response to gay marriage. He also sits down with Trevor to discuss the success of working with one of the largest Native American writing rooms on “Rutherford Falls,” how it feels to be back in The Daily Show studio, and his anything-goes approach to comedy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Another issue dear to the hearts of American is the
right to bear arms. But how secure is that right? Well,
our own at Helms recently traveled to Arizona to find out.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Arizona State Legislator Randy Graff values our Second Amendment right
to bear arms, and.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I don't see why that right should be abridged. Well,
you're doing just about anything.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So he proposed a bill that would close up a
bizar loophole in Arizona law.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Senate Bill twelve to ten. There's a very simple measure
that would change our Arizona statutes and a lot of
the carrier of weapons into establishments at serve of alcohol.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You hurt him right. For some insane reason, bars in
Arizona are currently gun free.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Is there anything more terrifying than a room full of
people without guns?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I guess what would be more terrifying would be a
room full of people not allowed to have guns.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Just got chills.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Grafts bill to allow guns and bars has already passed
the House. But even common sense ideas have their opponents,
like Democratic Representative John Laredo.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
When people drink, we don't allow them to drive. Why, Well,
because their motor skills are inhibited and their judgment is inhibited.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Drinking and driving is illegal because cars can crash and
kill people. A gun is hardly a car.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
A gun is more dangerous than a car if you've
got alcohol involved. So I'm just saying that guns and
bars shouldn't be alone with alcohol.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
There's no need to shout. Okay for shouting at me.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
As a gun owning former marine, John Laredo is hardly
qualified to evaluate gun laws, unlike Randy Graff, whose views
are informed by his experience as a golf pro.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
For me, it's relatively simple. For many years I had
to interpret the rules of golf, and the rules of
golf book is sixty five pages or so long. We've
got our Constitution here. I read that as my newest
rule book.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
If the Arizona Legislature passes this bill, I'm sorry, Can
we go back for a second here? Did he just
compare the Constitution to a book of golf rules?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Man?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
Who love this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Anyway?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
The majority of the people that we've heard from are
very opposed to this legislation, So aren't you just cow
twing to the majority of Arizonians? I think any reasonable
rational person.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Cow towing to me, aren't.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
You Look, if you're so paranoid that you don't believe
you can walk into a bar without a gun, then
you probably shouldn't be there in the first place.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
What are you gonna do if a bear walks into
a bar and you're unarmed, You're gonna get eaten by
that bear.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So how will this law affect those on the front lines?
I spoke with Ernie Ross, who owns the Steelhorse Saloon,
a local drinking establishment for motorcycle enthusiasts.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Evidently, the person who is behind trying to push this
bill has no experience in the bar business. Liquor and
firearms don't mix.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Alcohol causes conflicts, Firearms resolve conflicts.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's a no brainer.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Logic tells you that alcohol and firearms don't mix.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
If, yeah, if you're a pussy.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
If you're a pussy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Ernie and I had a delightful chat, a rational exchange
of ideas.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
All right, you're calling me a pussy, So would you
prefer me taking this bottle of beer I got in
my hand and cracking it over your face? Or do
you prefer me reaching to my back pulling out my
fire arm and putting a bullet between your eyes. Which
do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I would say, if you hit me over the face
with a beer bottle.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Then then you're you're you're being a pussy.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
To prove to the pussies that guns and liquor do mix,
I conducted. I conducted a scientific experiment.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I did find that a small amount of alcohol made
me somewhat more aggressive. Yeah, but with the appropriate dosage,
my behavior changed completely.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You shut.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh man, go ahead here. I headed back to the
Steelhorse saloon and had the time of my life, that
is until I reminded them that they're all a bunch
of pussies. If only I'd brought my gun.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
In the last few years, America's so called culture war,
it's been sadly overshadowed by our so called war war,
but the saddle battles continue to be raged all across
the country.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
At Helms reports on.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
One last year, Massachusetts became the first state to allow
gay marriage, and critics feared the worst.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
If gay marriage is legalized, madam, then you're going to
have to legalize polygamy.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Marriage is really to redefine it out of existence.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
A break down to the family, children being born out
of wedlock, and communities and cultures indicate. Now just one
year later, Massachusetts pro family activist Brian Camankert believes those
fears have become reality.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
You know, the gay marriage issue is destructive on many levels.
You have to deal with it in business, you have
to deal with it in the public school ware, you
have to deal with it in the public schools.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
So the quality of life has decreased. Yeah, holmlessness gone up.
I can you know crime rates, crime rates, air quality.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
I mean, let me put it this way. I could
if I could sit here and I could probably you know,
find some way of connecting the dots to gay marriage
to all of these if I had enough time and
I did some research.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Why take time to do the research when saying it
is so much faster. Besides, the statistics are clear cut.
Now that gay marriage is legal, Massachusetts ranks dead last
and illiteracy, forty eighth in per capita poverty, and a
pathetic forty ninth in total divorces. Somehow, Don and Robert,
(07:20):
one of the states first married gay couples, don't see
the problem.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
A lot of things that affect the state of Massachusetts
far more profoundly than you know, two people who love
each other and getting married.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Name one thing in Massachusetts that's not ruined? Well, I
guess I.
Speaker 10 (07:39):
Look at the people way around. I mean, I can't
think of anything that gay's marriage has actually caused other
than letting people get married.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Easy for them to say.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
How does legalized gay marriage affect your relationship with your wife?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (07:53):
God, that's such a ridiculous question. I don't want to answer.
Are you like asking me serious questions or not?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Of course?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Is it hard to stay interested in your wife with
temptation out there?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Let me come on, what are some.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Other gay activities you haven't indulged?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
In?
Speaker 9 (08:18):
Indulged? What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The damage isn't limited to straight marriages.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Has legalized same sex marriages led to more homosexuals?
Speaker 9 (08:31):
I think that in the Broadway it has.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of course, the Broadway has always had its share of homosexuals,
But in a broader sense, just how gay has Massachusetts become?
Speaker 11 (08:45):
To find out, I'll be using this gay detection device.
It's kind of a radar for gayness, or gay radar.
It's called a hormometer.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I calibrated the meter and began my invent instigation ugly.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I hate it.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I hate that stupid, I hate that has stupid.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
But fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I hate it. I hate that.
Speaker 11 (09:12):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's okay, that thinks What does the insidious infiltration of
gayness mean for the state?
Speaker 9 (09:30):
You know, it's a little scary as to where this
movement might be headed. Gay activists use a lot of
the pr tactics and propaganda tactics that the Nazis used.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
That comparison is a bit extreme, don't you think. I mean,
what did the Nazis do that was so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Perhaps?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
No comparison captures the perversity of what marriage means todays.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
A companion through thick and thin, a warm bed at night.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah yeah, someone to share your life with, someone to
grow old.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Ed Helms.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
We'll be right back lovingly.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
You know they're raising, you know, the gay flag over
Boston City Hall.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I know what you're saying. I used to come here
and know one what made now get about it?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (10:35):
My guest tonight is actor, writer and producer Ed Helms.
Speaker 13 (10:39):
He's here to talk to us about his show, Rutherford
Foles which he co created and stars in. Please welcome
at Helms.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Al Right, al right, welcome to the day show. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
Although is it welcome, it's it's a little weird because
you you worked in this very same studio for how
many years, like five.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Four and a half years and a half years.
Speaker 12 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I like what you've done with the play.
Speaker 13 (11:16):
Oh, thank you very much, Thank you very much. Yes,
boshed it up a little bit. We had a little
pandemic in the middle, you know, touched a few things.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Up, you know.
Speaker 13 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, but your stuff is still here if you
want anything, I hope.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
So no one's moved into my office, right, No, no, no,
of course not good. Of course that's safe space.
Speaker 13 (11:32):
Welcome, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
By the way, I love what you have done, not
only with the furniture.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But with the show.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
You're crouching it travel.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah, I love what you've done with everything, because I mean.
Speaker 13 (11:47):
You're easily one of the funniest people around. You know,
many people introduced to you, you know, through the hangover,
but everything you've done has just been so funny and rutherford.
When I first read about it seemed like, oh you
you're trying to throw it all away.
Speaker 12 (12:02):
Because it was a story of it.
Speaker 13 (12:03):
Really it seems like a crazy story. It's like, how
I'm going to play a white guy who goes into
a Native American community and basically like fights with them
about their own land. It doesn't seem like comedy. Yeah,
it's really funny and it's a great story.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Yeah, well it's you know, I guess that was that
was the challenge was to try to keep that character sympathetic.
I mean, it really is like that the show was
born out of this observation just that people were kind
of not listening to each other and being crazy and
and and so we wanted to kind of depict somebody
(12:37):
who who is having trouble kind of hearing opposing views
or hearing some that maybe his interpretation of history is
very wrong. And and and yet also that that that's
that can be a good person who wants to do
better also.
Speaker 13 (12:54):
Right, Can I tell you what I love about the
show is that it's funny, it's poignant, It has I
think stand to be corrected. Possibly the largest Native American
writing room in all of television.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Maybe it's like giant. It's up there, even if it's
not tough. It's up there, it's up there.
Speaker 13 (13:10):
You you you have like a Native American cost, You've
done the thing that everyone says it's impossible. Everyone goes like,
if you include people, then white people don't work. And
it's like you're working, they're working.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's a great show.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
I'm for season two.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I'm doing Okay, you're doing.
Speaker 12 (13:24):
Okay, Yeah, you're doing okay.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
There's another show called Reservation Dogs, which is also amazing, amazing,
and that show has a ton of Native American writers
and directors, a lot of our directors. We've shared a
lot of directors between the shows. And yeah, it's just
it's been an incredibly humbling experience for me. I think,
(13:48):
I think before getting into this, I I intellectually understood
the value of representation and I would I would, I
could talk about it very fluently and advocate for it.
But being in this experience has just like really made
a kick in for me in a way that I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
It's been.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
It's been incredible.
Speaker 13 (14:07):
It shows you know, because like the jokes that you're telling,
the storylines that you that you have, it doesn't become
something that it's not supposed to be. It becomes fresh,
it becomes authentic. It's it's I mean, that's why it
got renewed. It is what I think, you know it
like season two, it's it's an exciting season change as well.
I don't want to spoil anything for those who haven't
seen the first season, but essentially, your character comes into
this world where he's trying to preserve his name, the
(14:29):
Rutherford name comes in, realizes at some point that you know,
his family doesn't stand for the best thing you know
in the past. But as we go into season two,
the journey changes slightly. What can you tell us about it?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
So, yeah, that you know we left at the end
of season one, my character really had this like catastrophic
identity crisis and uh and and I think going into
it and all of season one, really I think my
co creators Mike Sure and Sierra Teller Ornellis that three
of us like really wanted to grapple with some.
Speaker 13 (15:02):
Big ideas and some big issues.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Season two, we were like, well, we kind of did
a lot of homework in season one, and this ensemble
is so funny and our writers are so let's just
like lean into the comedy more. And so I think
this season. We still there's still a lot of very
sharp satire that I'm very, very proud of. But it's
also it's more joyful, it's sillier.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It's just I don't know.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
When you say lean into the comedy more, I'm excited,
but I'm most.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
A little worried because no, I've heard I've heard stories
about you. I mean at The Daily Show, you know
with John Stewart when you were correspondent, you had a
mole removed on camera for the show.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 13 (15:42):
Like actually like the procedure again on the Hangover you
allowed them to take out one of your teeth. Yes,
for the movie. That's like a real that not really happened.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah you see that.
Speaker 13 (15:53):
You see you were like, oh special effects. No, that
was just him. It was just him being effective, that's
all it was. So when you say lean in, are
you still willing to do the craziest thing?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
For so season two of this show, I remove I
get decapitated for me my head. It's like and and
you know, thankfully, like we've got great doctors and everything.
It's like I'm fine, as you can see, but yeah,
I go the extra mile, like do super committed, super method.
Speaker 13 (16:23):
Yeah, Like, do you family and friends worry about you?
Because I know people who go the extra mileful comedy,
Like does your dentist worry? Doesn't you know, do your
doctor's worry?
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I guess there's nothing. I don't know that if this
is a good thing, But there is virtually nothing I.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Won't do for a laugh.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I have no pride or dignity, and so that's a
very freeing thing in shows this.
Speaker 13 (16:48):
I think it's not just freeing, it's the reason you
one of the funniest, most amazing people that we get
to watch on screen.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
Thank you for being on the show, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
For joining me. Yeah, I appreciate you. Huge fans.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Another issue dear to the hearts of American is the
right to bear arms. But how secure is that right? Well,
our own at Helms recently traveled to Arizona to find out.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Arizona State Legislator Randy Graff values our Second Amendment right
to bear arms, and.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I don't see why that right should be abridged. Well,
you're doing just about anything.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So he proposed a bill that would close up a
bizar loophole in Arizona law.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Senate Bill twelve to ten. There's a very simple measure
that would change our Arizona statutes and a lot of
the carrier of weapons into establishments at serve of alcohol.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You hurt him right. For some insane reason, bars in
Arizona are currently gun free.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Is there anything more terrifying than a room full of
people without guns?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I guess what would be more terrifying would be a
room full of people not allowed to have guns.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Just got chills.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Grafts bill to allow guns and bars has already passed
the House. But even common sense ideas have their opponents,
like Democratic Representative John Laredo.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
When people drink, we don't allow them to drive. Why, Well,
because their motor skills are inhibited and their judgment is inhibited.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Drinking and driving is illegal because cars can crash and
kill people. A gun is hardly a car.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
A gun is more dangerous than a car if you've
got alcohol involved. So I'm just saying that guns and
bars shouldn't be alone with alcohol.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
There's no need to shout. Okay for shouting at me.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
As a gun owning former marine, John Laredo is hardly
qualified to evaluate gun laws, unlike Randy Graff, whose views
are informed by his experience as a golf pro.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
For me, it's relatively simple. For many years I had
to interpret the rules of golf, and the rules of
golf book is sixty five pages or so long. We've
got our Constitution here. I read that as my newest
rule book.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
If the Arizona Legislature passes this bill, I'm sorry, Can
we go back for a second here? Did he just
compare the Constitution to a book of golf rules?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Man?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
Who love this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Anyway?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
The majority of the people that we've heard from are
very opposed to this legislation, So aren't you just cow
twing to the majority of Arizonians? I think any reasonable
rational person.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Cow towing to me, aren't.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
You Look, if you're so paranoid that you don't believe
you can walk into a bar without a gun, then
you probably shouldn't be there in the first place.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
What are you gonna do if a bear walks into
a bar and you're unarmed, You're gonna get eaten by
that bear.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So how will this law affect those on the front lines?
I spoke with Ernie Ross, who owns the Steelhorse Saloon,
a local drinking establishment for motorcycle enthusiasts.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Evidently, the person who is behind trying to push this
bill has no experience in the bar business. Liquor and
firearms don't mix.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Alcohol causes conflicts, Firearms resolve conflicts.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's a no brainer.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Logic tells you that alcohol and firearms don't mix.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
If, yeah, if you're a pussy.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
If you're a pussy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Ernie and I had a delightful chat, a rational exchange
of ideas.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
All right, you're calling me a pussy, So would you
prefer me taking this bottle of beer I got in
my hand and cracking it over your face? Or do
you prefer me reaching to my back pulling out my
fire arm and putting a bullet between your eyes. Which
do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I would say, if you hit me over the face
with a beer bottle.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Then then you're you're you're being a pussy.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
To prove to the pussies that guns and liquor do mix,
I conducted. I conducted a scientific experiment.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I did find that a small amount of alcohol made
me somewhat more aggressive. Yeah, but with the appropriate dosage,
my behavior changed completely.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You shut.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh man, go ahead here. I headed back to the
Steelhorse saloon and had the time of my life, that
is until I reminded them that they're all a bunch
of pussies. If only I'd brought my gun.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
In the last few years, America's so called culture war,
it's been sadly overshadowed by our so called war war,
but the saddle battles continue to be raged all across
the country.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
At Helms reports on.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
One last year, Massachusetts became the first state to allow
gay marriage, and critics feared the worst.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
If gay marriage is legalized, madam, then you're going to
have to legalize polygamy.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Marriage is really to redefine it out of existence.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
A break down to the family, children being born out
of wedlock, and communities and cultures indicate. Now just one
year later, Massachusetts pro family activist Brian Camankert believes those
fears have become reality.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
You know, the gay marriage issue is destructive on many levels.
You have to deal with it in business, you have
to deal with it in the public school ware, you
have to deal with it in the public schools.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
So the quality of life has decreased. Yeah, holmlessness gone up.
I can you know crime rates, crime rates, air quality.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
I mean, let me put it this way. I could
if I could sit here and I could probably you know,
find some way of connecting the dots to gay marriage
to all of these if I had enough time and
I did some research.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Why take time to do the research when saying it
is so much faster. Besides, the statistics are clear cut.
Now that gay marriage is legal, Massachusetts ranks dead last
and illiteracy, forty eighth in per capita poverty, and a
pathetic forty ninth in total divorces. Somehow, Don and Robert,
(07:20):
one of the states first married gay couples, don't see
the problem.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
A lot of things that affect the state of Massachusetts
far more profoundly than you know, two people who love
each other and getting married.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Name one thing in Massachusetts that's not ruined? Well, I
guess I.
Speaker 10 (07:39):
Look at the people way around. I mean, I can't
think of anything that gay's marriage has actually caused other
than letting people get married.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Easy for them to say.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
How does legalized gay marriage affect your relationship with your wife?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (07:53):
God, that's such a ridiculous question. I don't want to answer.
Are you like asking me serious questions or not?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Of course?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Is it hard to stay interested in your wife with
temptation out there?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Let me come on, what are some.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Other gay activities you haven't indulged?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
In?
Speaker 9 (08:18):
Indulged? What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
The damage isn't limited to straight marriages.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Has legalized same sex marriages led to more homosexuals?
Speaker 9 (08:31):
I think that in the Broadway it has.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of course, the Broadway has always had its share of homosexuals,
But in a broader sense, just how gay has Massachusetts become?
Speaker 11 (08:45):
To find out, I'll be using this gay detection device.
It's kind of a radar for gayness, or gay radar.
It's called a hormometer.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I calibrated the meter and began my invent instigation ugly.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I hate it.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I hate that stupid, I hate that has stupid.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
But fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I hate it. I hate that.
Speaker 11 (09:12):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's okay, that thinks What does the insidious infiltration of
gayness mean for the state?
Speaker 9 (09:30):
You know, it's a little scary as to where this
movement might be headed. Gay activists use a lot of
the pr tactics and propaganda tactics that the Nazis used.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
That comparison is a bit extreme, don't you think. I mean,
what did the Nazis do that was so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Perhaps?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
No comparison captures the perversity of what marriage means todays.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
A companion through thick and thin, a warm bed at night.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah yeah, someone to share your life with, someone to
grow old.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Ed Helms.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
We'll be right back lovingly.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
You know they're raising, you know, the gay flag over
Boston City Hall.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I know what you're saying. I used to come here
and know one what made now get about it?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (10:35):
My guest tonight is actor, writer and producer Ed Helms.
Speaker 13 (10:39):
He's here to talk to us about his show, Rutherford
Foles which he co created and stars in. Please welcome
at Helms.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Al Right, al right, welcome to the day show. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
Although is it welcome, it's it's a little weird because
you you worked in this very same studio for how
many years, like five.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Four and a half years and a half years.
Speaker 12 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I like what you've done with the play.
Speaker 13 (11:16):
Oh, thank you very much, Thank you very much. Yes,
boshed it up a little bit. We had a little
pandemic in the middle, you know, touched a few things.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Up, you know.
Speaker 13 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, but your stuff is still here if you
want anything, I hope.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
So no one's moved into my office, right, No, no, no,
of course not good. Of course that's safe space.
Speaker 13 (11:32):
Welcome, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
By the way, I love what you have done, not
only with the furniture.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But with the show.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
You're crouching it travel.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah, I love what you've done with everything, because I mean.
Speaker 13 (11:47):
You're easily one of the funniest people around. You know,
many people introduced to you, you know, through the hangover,
but everything you've done has just been so funny and rutherford.
When I first read about it seemed like, oh you
you're trying to throw it all away.
Speaker 12 (12:02):
Because it was a story of it.
Speaker 13 (12:03):
Really it seems like a crazy story. It's like, how
I'm going to play a white guy who goes into
a Native American community and basically like fights with them
about their own land. It doesn't seem like comedy. Yeah,
it's really funny and it's a great story.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Yeah, well it's you know, I guess that was that
was the challenge was to try to keep that character sympathetic.
I mean, it really is like that the show was
born out of this observation just that people were kind
of not listening to each other and being crazy and
and and so we wanted to kind of depict somebody
(12:37):
who who is having trouble kind of hearing opposing views
or hearing some that maybe his interpretation of history is
very wrong. And and and yet also that that that's
that can be a good person who wants to do
better also.
Speaker 13 (12:54):
Right, Can I tell you what I love about the
show is that it's funny, it's poignant, It has I
think stand to be corrected. Possibly the largest Native American
writing room in all of television.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Maybe it's like giant. It's up there, even if it's
not tough. It's up there, it's up there.
Speaker 13 (13:10):
You you you have like a Native American cost, You've
done the thing that everyone says it's impossible. Everyone goes like,
if you include people, then white people don't work. And
it's like you're working, they're working.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's a great show.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
I'm for season two.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I'm doing Okay, you're doing.
Speaker 12 (13:24):
Okay, Yeah, you're doing okay.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
There's another show called Reservation Dogs, which is also amazing, amazing,
and that show has a ton of Native American writers
and directors, a lot of our directors. We've shared a
lot of directors between the shows. And yeah, it's just
it's been an incredibly humbling experience for me. I think,
(13:48):
I think before getting into this, I I intellectually understood
the value of representation and I would I would, I
could talk about it very fluently and advocate for it.
But being in this experience has just like really made
a kick in for me in a way that I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
It's been.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
It's been incredible.
Speaker 13 (14:07):
It shows you know, because like the jokes that you're telling,
the storylines that you that you have, it doesn't become
something that it's not supposed to be. It becomes fresh,
it becomes authentic. It's it's I mean, that's why it
got renewed. It is what I think, you know it
like season two, it's it's an exciting season change as well.
I don't want to spoil anything for those who haven't
seen the first season, but essentially, your character comes into
this world where he's trying to preserve his name, the
(14:29):
Rutherford name comes in, realizes at some point that you know,
his family doesn't stand for the best thing you know
in the past. But as we go into season two,
the journey changes slightly. What can you tell us about it?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
So, yeah, that you know we left at the end
of season one, my character really had this like catastrophic
identity crisis and uh and and I think going into
it and all of season one, really I think my
co creators Mike Sure and Sierra Teller Ornellis that three
of us like really wanted to grapple with some.
Speaker 13 (15:02):
Big ideas and some big issues.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Season two, we were like, well, we kind of did
a lot of homework in season one, and this ensemble
is so funny and our writers are so let's just
like lean into the comedy more. And so I think
this season. We still there's still a lot of very
sharp satire that I'm very, very proud of. But it's
also it's more joyful, it's sillier.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It's just I don't know.
Speaker 13 (15:27):
When you say lean into the comedy more, I'm excited,
but I'm most.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
A little worried because no, I've heard I've heard stories
about you. I mean at The Daily Show, you know
with John Stewart when you were correspondent, you had a
mole removed on camera for the show.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 13 (15:42):
Like actually like the procedure again on the Hangover you
allowed them to take out one of your teeth. Yes,
for the movie. That's like a real that not really happened.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah you see that.
Speaker 13 (15:53):
You see you were like, oh special effects. No, that
was just him. It was just him being effective, that's
all it was. So when you say lean in, are
you still willing to do the craziest thing?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
For so season two of this show, I remove I
get decapitated for me my head. It's like and and
you know, thankfully, like we've got great doctors and everything.
It's like I'm fine, as you can see, but yeah,
I go the extra mile, like do super committed, super method.
Speaker 13 (16:23):
Yeah, Like, do you family and friends worry about you?
Because I know people who go the extra mileful comedy,
Like does your dentist worry? Doesn't you know, do your
doctor's worry?
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I guess there's nothing. I don't know that if this
is a good thing, But there is virtually nothing I.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Won't do for a laugh.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I have no pride or dignity, and so that's a
very freeing thing in shows this.
Speaker 13 (16:48):
I think it's not just freeing, it's the reason you
one of the funniest, most amazing people that we get
to watch on screen.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
Thank you for being on the show, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
For joining me. Yeah, I appreciate you. Huge fans.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
The Daily Show wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 13 (17:05):
Watch The Daily Show weeknights at eleven ten Central on
Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on fairmounth plus.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
This has been a Comedy Central podcastow
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