March 4, 2024 • 26 mins
In this podcast exclusive, Grace Kuhlenschmidt, the newest member of The Daily Show news team, chats with segment director Sarah Hamblin about how her viral social media videos led her to The Daily Show. Grace also talks about the advice she got from former correspondents, her audition process, and how she hopes to bring a queer perspective to the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Comedy centralow.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, Daily Show Ears Edition listeners. This is Sarah Hamblin's
segment director for The Daily Show, and I'm here with
one of the newest members of The Daily Show news team,
Grace Cool and Schmidt. Welcome Grace Hey, Thanks, yay yay,
Welcome to that family.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The studio audience is going wild. You can't hear them,
but they are losing it. The rat that lives in
the corner of our building is absolutely dying in a
glue trap. Grace, did you ever imagine that your Daily
Show debut would be debating with Michael Costa about whether
you should take five hundred thousand dollars or have lunch
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with Jay Z?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I've always had this vision that it would be that. No,
I definitely not, but I was like so thrilled, and
working with Costa for my first piece was really really fun.
He is like actually unbelievably kind and made me feel
so comfortable and I felt really really grateful.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Would you also take the money?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No way, you definitely have lunch with jay Z. Look
at his list of accomplishments.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He married Beyonce, he dated Beyonce, He probably has Beyonce's
phone number, So yeah, definitely lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Screw the five hundred grand. I'd pay that much to
have Beyonce spit on me.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, of course we'd all pay half a mil
for Beyonce to spit on us. But that's not the question, Grace.
Between jay Z or half a million, you gotta take
the money.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So what was your first day at the Daily Show? Like, like,
what were you Did you have an expectation of what
the Daily Show office was going to be like or
were there things that surprised you?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, I mean I spend very little time in offices,
just like by trade, so I immediately clocked the free soda,
I immediately clocked free snacks, and I thought I could
really find my home here.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So when you walked in, you were like, this is
just like an episode of the Office.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
You guys, look at your cute death even like just
having a conference room with like glass windows and doors
around it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I was like, this is like so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And like everyone's off I truly spend no time in
an office ever, so I'm having fun.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
M m O. Great.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But then my first day, like on set, like the
first day.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I walked onto the actual set I was like, this
is unreal. It's so just like detailed and beautiful, and
all the lights are like dope, and like there's so
much equipment. And also there are so many more people
who work here than I could have ever imagined.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I'm curious. Did you seek out advice from any
current or former correspondence for the show?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I really kind of went and blind.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But I that with most things in my life, honestly,
like I don't think about the future too much.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I kind of just I'm very good with the flow.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You gotta stay in the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
By the way, I did talk to Ronnie the other
day and he was like, oh, I got to call
Grace because I think when he started John Oliver gave
him a whole speech. Yeah, so he's been trying with
like new correspondence to give them a whole speech. Okay,
I did it for Troy, but I haven't done it
for Roy.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Did send me an email?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh yeah, it was really sweet. Can you give me
like a highlight? I mean obviously cone of silence, but.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'm like, for some reason, I'm like I kind
of think I can't say the like coolest thing about it,
but it is like notes from past correspondents and like
tips O nice and Roy had like unreal advice. Yeah,
I felt like I was like reading like a constitution.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's really sweet. Okay, So before seeing Grace on The
Daily Show, you probably saw Grace's viral sketch videos on
Instagram TikTok Grace, How would you describe your brand of
comedy and the types of content you make?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Hmmm, I guess very character based. I mean I think
I'm like goofy first, Like I do think all my
stuff is like very silly. I don't take myself too seriously.
I don't take my comedy too seriously. I'm typically not
trying to make a like political statement with any of
my stuff. But also I do think like any of
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my stuff will reflect like my views and how I
see the world. But yeah, I mean definitely character based.
I this is like a funny job too, because it's
like the first time I'm ever playing myself and you know,
to a certain degree, and so that's been like a
really fun adjustment too.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah. I remember when they told us that you were
gonna be starting on the show, and I went and
watched a bunch of your like videos, and I was like,
oh my god, this girl is so funny. Like, I
think one thing we were trying to figure out what
like doing your first field piece was you know, like
when Costa came in, it's just you see him and
you're like, yeah, news guy totally, but you are not
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like fake journalists, Like what's your voice going to be?
So then yeah, with the piece we did together, I
was like, Oh, you're just so you do this like
lifestyle influencer thing really well on some of your videos,
and I was like, that would be a really fun
character to put with this guy who's living this like
outrageous lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was really fun.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Working with josh Spodek was so fun because we are
definitely completely opposite people, but like there was like a
huge mutual respect, Like I think what he's doing is
unbelievably cool.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So, yeah, we got to do your first field piece.
I got to direct you in your first field piece
about living off the grid in Manhattan, where you sat
down with astrophysicist and NYU professor Joshua Spodek, who's been
living without electricity for over a year now.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So what is your problem with electricity.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Did it kill your family or did it because I'm
now realizing that's kind of something that could happen.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I do use electricity. I have my solar panels that
to take up to the roof and charge the battery.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But that's it. I try to minimize my footprint as
much as I can.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now what exactly is electricity, and I know the basics.
It's the stuff that's in the air.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Electricity actually a very complication.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
When people think it's simple. I'm like, are you dumb?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
In one sense?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
It's simple and that it just works because that's how
gravity gravity. So we've learned to control this power through
wires and batteries and things like that.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So almost always you're going to be proud, and I
don't want to.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm curious too, Like, as we were working on the
piece and getting closer to shooting it, like, how are
you kind of balancing celebrating what he's doing and then
also like poking fun.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You know, it did feel hard at times. My biggest
thing was making sure that he didn't feel made fun of.
And because I think, like to the audience, hopefully it's
clear I'm not making fun of him and so I
wanted to make sure it was clear to him. You know,
like so much of like sarcasm and satire can like
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kind of border on like making fun and that's not
something I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If anything, my comedy is making fun of myself.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, it was funny too, because you guys both have
this like earnestness. But he is just such a straight
man and I'm so so serious. He's like a scientist.
And then that just like you're you playing this like
person who doesn't understand anything. Was so fun with him
because he was so patient with you and explaining everything.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He kind of was like the perfect like I did
for so many years, and you know, improv can be
so many things, but it is like a common thing
for there to be like a goofy character and a
straight man. And he did like fit that bill perfectly
because every time he was just like it was like
an alley up. He just dunked it right in where
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I would like say something absolutely ridiculous and he would
respond with sure, you know, and it's like it is
a good punchline. So he what And I do think
he is funny, and I do like I think he
knew what the joke was all along too, like he's
obviously smart. There was so much like cut too. Like
we had a full bit obviously at Precycle with Katerina,
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who's the owner of Precycle, which, by the way, is
like a really cool store. I had a blast in there,
and they have a there's another one that just opened
I think over the summer, and it's just like one
of those stores you could spend like already mint it's
just looking at things. But yeah, we had like a
whole interview with her that we didn't really use much of,
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but like there were some really funny bits in that too.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And then there was the bit in Times Square trying
to get people to eat the stew that you made,
the raw stew.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I like, did I try that stew? I can't
even remember.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh, I wanted That's what I wanted to ask you too,
because I feel like in the segment we see you
make a face when you try the kombucha. Yeah, And
I felt like, I mean, I also tried the kombucha,
and I felt like I remember Josh talking a lot
about because he had been living this lifestyle for so long,
he couldn't even eat like a piece of candy would
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be like poisoned to him, and his taste buds had
completely changed. But to me that kombucha, it was like
drinking like vinegar, Like I just I need sugar. The
skills thing was not fake.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
As like one of one of the less good juices
I've had in my life, but not the worst.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, so the he has sugar.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, sugar, that's what it's missing.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I I think there are places are skills were taken
off the market for being so healthy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's so effed up, dude.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I want to just come back to like TikTok and
social media. And I remember when we talked a little
bit about how getting on TikTok really changed things for
you as a comedian. Can you talk about that a
little bit?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I almost wish I had like the stats of
like how my career started written down somewhere, but I don't.
But before the pandemic, I probably had like three thousand
followers on Twitter, so like small, but like honestly it
felt big to me. That's how my career started, was
like fully on Twitter. I probably got like thirty thousand
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followers before I ever started posting on Instagram, and then
I had my first manager, Kathleen. She was like, you
need to post on TikTok, and I was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Like, I do not want to. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I mean, frankly, it was probably some of the best
advice I've ever gotten, and I think now it is
just like, if you want to be in this career
like you do, just have to say yes to these
things or you have to accept the fact that you're
not gonna go viral.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
When I was posting on TikTok, it was like, uh,
June of twenty twenty was when I first started posting
on there. So I was like happily unemployed because I
hated the restaurant I was working at before the pandemic,
and I was like, oh my god, I can make
videos all day long, and so I was, I was
making like three videos a day.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Now I do not have that stamina.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I'm like so glad that I like saw an
opportunity and like went for it. And also, like I
kind of said earlier, like I didn't like anticipate anything happening.
I was living in Chicago, and I like was doing
but Chicago is like such a weird comedy place because
there's no industry there, you know, I was doing shows
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every night for like five people, and those five people
were like also performers.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'm interested to know. Like, so much of the work
that you do on social media is kind of about
making fun of social media, making fun of content creation,
which is really fun. So how do you balance using
your platform as a space for comedy while also, you know,
doing that social commentary about social media usage.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I mean it's incredibly hypocritical, and I just have to
embrace that, you know, like I'm in my twenties, like
on TikTok, Like I just have to take it at
face value. And yeah, I mean I'm doing I'm like
working towards my hour of stand up right now. It
has been like so fun thinking like more long term
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about a stand up hour.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So I have this like.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Ten minute bit right now that I like literally hired
to send a photographer to help me do. And it's
like a video and I'm just like parrotying a like
influencer like my day in the life as an influencer
in New York City, And I mean it's goofy because
half the things are kind of true for me as well,
you know. So it's like I can make fun of
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an influencer getting a brand deal, but it's like I've
also done many a brand deals, so and I think
maybe as part of that is just being self aware
of like how privileged any angle of like influencership is
and being able to make fun of yourself too.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you have such an earnestness
about it that it never feels mean. It just feels
really like accurate, right, but it doesn't feel like you're
like punching down or like, oh no, that's so interesting.
I feel like about your comedy.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, and also like I am basic at the end
of the day too. I can make fun of influence,
but at ten pm, when I need my brain to
shut off, I'm on a YouTube channel watching an influencer.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Guys, I'm just trying to live my life.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I remember seeing your Daily Show audition. You showed it
to me and it was so funny, Like what was
that audition process like? And what do you think it
was about your audition that got you the job? Or
maybe you got some feedback where they were like we
loved this, Yeah, it really was so. I mean it
was like basically an entire year ago. I was asked
to like basically write my own like one to two
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minute segment. So I wrote this like really stupid segment
about how I was at the Spy.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Museum in DC and I just needed like a few
more bucks to get some more like freeze dried ice cream.
I rewatched it with you. I've rewatched it since then too.
I'm like, I do just think I was having so
much fun making that I thought it was so silly,
And I think that is probably the piece of advice
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that I tell myself with all of my comedy, is
like I don't need to be trying to make other
people laugh like I do, just need to be making
myself laugh, because once I'm trying to make some random
person with a completely different perspective of mine laugh, it's
not gonna work. It's not gonna feel authentic. So I
felt really good about that audition, but I felt good
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about it in the way that I was like this
is funny, and not in a way of I'm going
to get this job. It felt like unattainable and absolutely
random to me. So getting like like meeting with you know,
producers here was like, what.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The hell is happening. But now I'm like, this is
so cool. I feel so lucky to be here.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And like just yeah excited for excited to like bring
in a new voice and bring in like my own
spin on things. And also I love like collaboration. That's
something that I don't get to do online.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I'm just like writing, directing, filming my own stuff, and
so that's something that's been really cool.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, working with you on that piece, Like we worked
on it for so long.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I feel like we both like had to adapt to
so many new things and like I learned an unbelievable
amount and it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, that was so much fun, like coming in and
doing like all those joke meetings and getting to bring
the writers in.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I know that's some of my favorite part is working
with the writers too, Like it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do you feel like coming here and being able to
bring that queer perspective to field pieces or what stories
you cover chats? Are there certain subjects you're excited to
go into.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm like game to do anything gay obviously,
what if I was like, I really like don't want
to be pigeonholed.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, I like I love being gay.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well, I'll just say that, like my favorite comedian, Like
I could name ten comedians right now who are my favorite.
I think every single one of them is queer. I'm biased,
I guess, but I also think like being in comedy,
there's something about it where it's like you're not explicitly
trying to be political, but it always is. And I
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think being gay has a huge factor to that too.
I could put something up and no one knows I'm gay,
but like I see that, like I have a like
queer perspective in everything that I do.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I feel like also a lot of the characters
you do in your TikTok and you know other videos,
are these like heterosexual stereotypes. Can you talk about like
playing with that? That's just like the comedy of heterosexuality,
which feels like something a little bit newer to make
kind of sure.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Which is fair, And I yeah, I think it's like
reminds me of like how silly like the low blows
are for like gay characters in TV for the past,
like however many years where it's just like, oh, you
gave this like gay character one personality trait, and I'm like,
why don't we do that? That's fine. Actually, let's do that.
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We can keep that, and let's also do that to
straight people. Also, it's like I was closeted.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For so long, and not in a sad way.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Honestly, I was like so high in high school that
I didn't know I was gay. But it's like I
just I think it's so easy to It should be
easy to make fun of heterosexuality. It should be easy
to make fun of homosexuality. None of it needs to
be like punching down. I just think there's like obvious
things about people culturally that like we can all agree
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are funny, and also like none of that needs to
be a generalization. Like if I'm making fun of like heterosexuality,
I'm making fun of one very specific type of annoying person,
in the same way that if I'm making fun of homosexuality,
I'd be making fun of one very specific annoying gay person.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, yes, you have this girl. I'm trying to remember
this one video you have as like the lesbian girl
drama video and the woman who's just like going on
this like rant about what's going on in her circle
and like if you knew, And that was one of
my favorites ohs.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So basically everybody's been wondering what I know, and it's
a lot. Now if y'all are wondering, do I know
these girls? Yeah, I know them actually very well. Do
I know them personally? No, but we hang out in
the exact same circles. I'm just outside of that circle.
I made so many videos at one point, like in
twenty twenty that people will like say to me all
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the time, oh, my favorite video of yours, and I'm like,
I think I did that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I don't think anyone can remember anything about twenty twenty
that is a good like try making sour dough bread, yeah, exactly.
Do you have thoughts on you know, you're talking about
playing yourself as your like Daily Show Kara, but do
you have ideas on how you want to build that
persona as you know the Daily Show Grace, Kool and
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Schmidt make the character your own?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I think every year that I've been doing comedy, which
I kind of since maybe like twenty fifteen, because I
started doing comedy in college and then I moved to
Chicago for three years, Like I do think like my
comedic voice changes and gets more like refined every year.
I also think in every segment that I've done here,
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like I've gained more confidence, like truly in a way
that's like kind of shocking. Like my first segment, like
live segment, I did feel like honestly really confident, but
I in a way that like was felt really cool
and empowering. But then like the second one, I was like,
oh my god, I'm like twice as confident this time
than I was last time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And that has kept growing.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And also I think like working with the writers here
has been like really inspiring and really fun. So I'm
kind of excited to see how my comedic voice you know,
evolves as well, like through this show, which I think
it does with any job that I take.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I know, one thing, like just working with you as
a director. You know, a lot of the correspondence that
we work with come from like an improv background or
a stand up background. But I think because you come
from the social media background, you have such a command
of like reactions sure, and such an ability to do
so much with your facial expression, and you know, do
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you feel like there are certain like superpowers that you've
gotten from doing so many videos for social media, seeing
what does well, what doesn't do well, what people react to.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I mean, I do think it is a combination of
like my social media background, but also like I did
improv for so long, and I did it like an
insane amount. In twenty nineteen, I was doing improv like
five nights a week, and it was like my life.
In improv, you have like one split second to make
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a decision. So that's like a really interesting way of
like which I guess I have.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Used with like a man on the street stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I've learned through both improv and social media to like
trust my gut first and foremost. And I think that
my brain honestly is going the fastest, is like at
its highest capacity when I'm like acting, and every other
time of the day it's going at a truly glacial pace.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You're just saving it up.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We're going into an election year, so it's going to
be like a lot of political stories. Are there any
twenty twenty four election stories or races or you know,
sort of even bigger ideas about politics in America that
you're interested in exploring. Dude, I want to go to
a Trump rally.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
God, I don't. I don't know. If I'm like I
think i'd be truly scared. I don't know. I mean
it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I've obviously been at Pride so many times that I've
been around like super fucking crazy protesters whom are scary.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I also like, okay, I went to a liberal arts school.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Now I live in Brooklyn, and so it's like I
am in a like total and in this industry.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
A total liberal bubble. So I think it would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And I'm just like so curious to see what's gonna
happen election wise. I mean, like I can make a
guess what I think is gonna happen, but I think
it's gonna be like a crazy year.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We'll see.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I mean, I'm excited to like make fun of every
single politician. So many of them are dumb. And I'm
not saying I'm smart, I'm just saying they're dumb.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, we should do something
about like that. Don't say gay bill stuff and oh yeah,
because that is so wild.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's truly ridiculous. There are absolutely like bigger things to
worry about.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, Like a teacher could get fired for having like
a picture of their partner on their desk.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right, but then they also need to carry a gun.
So that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, exactly as they're doing their like active shooter drill
hiding in the road. It's truly art closet.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, it's it's a horrible time to be alive, and yeah,
we just have.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
To enjoy it and see what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, yes, I guess maybe, Like same question back at you,
like what do you want to focus on in the
next year, Like what is like feeling?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What are you compelled to bring in to the show?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah for twenty twenty four. I mean, I feel like
reproductive rights are such a huge issue, like thinking about
what just happened with that poor woman in Texas. I mean,
I'm a mom, and you know, it's I can't imagine
going through that kind of heartbreak where you're so excited
to have a baby and you find out it's not viable,
and you know, you have politicians who are saying like, no,
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you need to carry this baby to term and give
birth to it, and it could you could not be
able to have another child because they're being forced. So
it's just like crazy, barbaric stuff that's happening in our country.
Of course, with reproductive rights, those stories are really hard
to cover. Because they're so depressing. Like Sam b had
a great segment on The Daily Show years ago where
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it was like she just kept holding or meeting different
cute animals because the story was so depressing. So it
was just this like escalation of her, like going to
the zoo and holding a sloth because she just the
more information she got. So it's yeah, it's kind of
finding those games and those ways to take you know,
these stories that are really depressing about the state of
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our country and democracy and like how do we find
a way through that gets people thinking about that?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, or you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Know, and again with like I was so happy we
got to do an environmental story. I'm always trying to
get any kind of environmental story on the show because
because The.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Daily Show doesn't believe in climate change.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes, I'm like, guys, Hello, can't believe you asked me
a question. Crazy. Usually nobody asked me questions except like
how's my light?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, this is fun. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Welcome to the show. It's so exciting you're here.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I am excited and excited to work with you again too.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, it'll be fun. Well, thanks so much for joining
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, Daily Show Ears Edition listeners. This is Sarah Hamblin's
segment director for The Daily Show, and I'm here with
one of the newest members of The Daily Show news team,
Grace Cool and Schmidt. Welcome Grace Hey, Thanks, yay yay,
Welcome to that family.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The studio audience is going wild. You can't hear them,
but they are losing it. The rat that lives in
the corner of our building is absolutely dying in a
glue trap. Grace, did you ever imagine that your Daily
Show debut would be debating with Michael Costa about whether
you should take five hundred thousand dollars or have lunch
(00:50):
with Jay Z?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I've always had this vision that it would be that. No,
I definitely not, but I was like so thrilled, and
working with Costa for my first piece was really really fun.
He is like actually unbelievably kind and made me feel
so comfortable and I felt really really grateful.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Would you also take the money?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No way, you definitely have lunch with jay Z. Look
at his list of accomplishments.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He married Beyonce, he dated Beyonce, He probably has Beyonce's
phone number, So yeah, definitely lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Screw the five hundred grand. I'd pay that much to
have Beyonce spit on me.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, of course we'd all pay half a mil
for Beyonce to spit on us. But that's not the question, Grace.
Between jay Z or half a million, you gotta take
the money.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So what was your first day at the Daily Show? Like, like,
what were you Did you have an expectation of what
the Daily Show office was going to be like or
were there things that surprised you?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, I mean I spend very little time in offices,
just like by trade, so I immediately clocked the free soda,
I immediately clocked free snacks, and I thought I could
really find my home here.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So when you walked in, you were like, this is
just like an episode of the Office.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
You guys, look at your cute death even like just
having a conference room with like glass windows and doors
around it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I was like, this is like so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And like everyone's off I truly spend no time in
an office ever, so I'm having fun.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
M m O. Great.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But then my first day, like on set, like the
first day.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I walked onto the actual set I was like, this
is unreal. It's so just like detailed and beautiful, and
all the lights are like dope, and like there's so
much equipment. And also there are so many more people
who work here than I could have ever imagined.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I'm curious. Did you seek out advice from any
current or former correspondence for the show?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I really kind of went and blind.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But I that with most things in my life, honestly,
like I don't think about the future too much.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I kind of just I'm very good with the flow.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You gotta stay in the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
By the way, I did talk to Ronnie the other
day and he was like, oh, I got to call
Grace because I think when he started John Oliver gave
him a whole speech. Yeah, so he's been trying with
like new correspondence to give them a whole speech. Okay,
I did it for Troy, but I haven't done it
for Roy.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Did send me an email?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh yeah, it was really sweet. Can you give me
like a highlight? I mean obviously cone of silence, but.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'm like, for some reason, I'm like I kind
of think I can't say the like coolest thing about it,
but it is like notes from past correspondents and like
tips O nice and Roy had like unreal advice. Yeah,
I felt like I was like reading like a constitution.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's really sweet. Okay, So before seeing Grace on The
Daily Show, you probably saw Grace's viral sketch videos on
Instagram TikTok Grace, How would you describe your brand of
comedy and the types of content you make?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Hmmm, I guess very character based. I mean I think
I'm like goofy first, Like I do think all my
stuff is like very silly. I don't take myself too seriously.
I don't take my comedy too seriously. I'm typically not
trying to make a like political statement with any of
my stuff. But also I do think like any of
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my stuff will reflect like my views and how I
see the world. But yeah, I mean definitely character based.
I this is like a funny job too, because it's
like the first time I'm ever playing myself and you know,
to a certain degree, and so that's been like a
really fun adjustment too.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah. I remember when they told us that you were
gonna be starting on the show, and I went and
watched a bunch of your like videos, and I was like,
oh my god, this girl is so funny. Like, I
think one thing we were trying to figure out what
like doing your first field piece was you know, like
when Costa came in, it's just you see him and
you're like, yeah, news guy totally, but you are not
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like fake journalists, Like what's your voice going to be?
So then yeah, with the piece we did together, I
was like, Oh, you're just so you do this like
lifestyle influencer thing really well on some of your videos,
and I was like, that would be a really fun
character to put with this guy who's living this like
outrageous lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was really fun.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Working with josh Spodek was so fun because we are
definitely completely opposite people, but like there was like a
huge mutual respect, Like I think what he's doing is
unbelievably cool.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So, yeah, we got to do your first field piece.
I got to direct you in your first field piece
about living off the grid in Manhattan, where you sat
down with astrophysicist and NYU professor Joshua Spodek, who's been
living without electricity for over a year now.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So what is your problem with electricity.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Did it kill your family or did it because I'm
now realizing that's kind of something that could happen.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I do use electricity. I have my solar panels that
to take up to the roof and charge the battery.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But that's it. I try to minimize my footprint as
much as I can.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now what exactly is electricity, and I know the basics.
It's the stuff that's in the air.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Electricity actually a very complication.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
When people think it's simple. I'm like, are you dumb?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
In one sense?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
It's simple and that it just works because that's how
gravity gravity. So we've learned to control this power through
wires and batteries and things like that.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So almost always you're going to be proud, and I
don't want to.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm curious too, Like, as we were working on the
piece and getting closer to shooting it, like, how are
you kind of balancing celebrating what he's doing and then
also like poking fun.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You know, it did feel hard at times. My biggest
thing was making sure that he didn't feel made fun of.
And because I think, like to the audience, hopefully it's
clear I'm not making fun of him and so I
wanted to make sure it was clear to him. You know,
like so much of like sarcasm and satire can like
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kind of border on like making fun and that's not
something I've ever done.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If anything, my comedy is making fun of myself.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, it was funny too, because you guys both have
this like earnestness. But he is just such a straight
man and I'm so so serious. He's like a scientist.
And then that just like you're you playing this like
person who doesn't understand anything. Was so fun with him
because he was so patient with you and explaining everything.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He kind of was like the perfect like I did
for so many years, and you know, improv can be
so many things, but it is like a common thing
for there to be like a goofy character and a
straight man. And he did like fit that bill perfectly
because every time he was just like it was like
an alley up. He just dunked it right in where
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I would like say something absolutely ridiculous and he would
respond with sure, you know, and it's like it is
a good punchline. So he what And I do think
he is funny, and I do like I think he
knew what the joke was all along too, like he's
obviously smart. There was so much like cut too. Like
we had a full bit obviously at Precycle with Katerina,
(08:44):
who's the owner of Precycle, which, by the way, is
like a really cool store. I had a blast in there,
and they have a there's another one that just opened
I think over the summer, and it's just like one
of those stores you could spend like already mint it's
just looking at things. But yeah, we had like a
whole interview with her that we didn't really use much of,
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but like there were some really funny bits in that too.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And then there was the bit in Times Square trying
to get people to eat the stew that you made,
the raw stew.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I like, did I try that stew? I can't
even remember.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh, I wanted That's what I wanted to ask you too,
because I feel like in the segment we see you
make a face when you try the kombucha. Yeah, And
I felt like, I mean, I also tried the kombucha,
and I felt like I remember Josh talking a lot
about because he had been living this lifestyle for so long,
he couldn't even eat like a piece of candy would
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be like poisoned to him, and his taste buds had
completely changed. But to me that kombucha, it was like
drinking like vinegar, Like I just I need sugar. The
skills thing was not fake.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
As like one of one of the less good juices
I've had in my life, but not the worst.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, so the he has sugar.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, sugar, that's what it's missing.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I I think there are places are skills were taken
off the market for being so healthy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's so effed up, dude.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I want to just come back to like TikTok and
social media. And I remember when we talked a little
bit about how getting on TikTok really changed things for
you as a comedian. Can you talk about that a
little bit?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I almost wish I had like the stats of
like how my career started written down somewhere, but I don't.
But before the pandemic, I probably had like three thousand
followers on Twitter, so like small, but like honestly it
felt big to me. That's how my career started, was
like fully on Twitter. I probably got like thirty thousand
(10:46):
followers before I ever started posting on Instagram, and then
I had my first manager, Kathleen. She was like, you
need to post on TikTok, and I was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Like, I do not want to. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I mean, frankly, it was probably some of the best
advice I've ever gotten, and I think now it is
just like, if you want to be in this career
like you do, just have to say yes to these
things or you have to accept the fact that you're
not gonna go viral.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
When I was posting on TikTok, it was like, uh,
June of twenty twenty was when I first started posting
on there. So I was like happily unemployed because I
hated the restaurant I was working at before the pandemic,
and I was like, oh my god, I can make
videos all day long, and so I was, I was
making like three videos a day.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Now I do not have that stamina.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I'm like so glad that I like saw an
opportunity and like went for it. And also, like I
kind of said earlier, like I didn't like anticipate anything happening.
I was living in Chicago, and I like was doing
but Chicago is like such a weird comedy place because
there's no industry there, you know, I was doing shows
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every night for like five people, and those five people
were like also performers.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'm interested to know. Like, so much of the work
that you do on social media is kind of about
making fun of social media, making fun of content creation,
which is really fun. So how do you balance using
your platform as a space for comedy while also, you know,
doing that social commentary about social media usage.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I mean it's incredibly hypocritical, and I just have to
embrace that, you know, like I'm in my twenties, like
on TikTok, Like I just have to take it at
face value. And yeah, I mean I'm doing I'm like
working towards my hour of stand up right now. It
has been like so fun thinking like more long term
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about a stand up hour.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So I have this like.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Ten minute bit right now that I like literally hired
to send a photographer to help me do. And it's
like a video and I'm just like parrotying a like
influencer like my day in the life as an influencer
in New York City, And I mean it's goofy because
half the things are kind of true for me as well,
you know. So it's like I can make fun of
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an influencer getting a brand deal, but it's like I've
also done many a brand deals, so and I think
maybe as part of that is just being self aware
of like how privileged any angle of like influencership is
and being able to make fun of yourself too.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you have such an earnestness
about it that it never feels mean. It just feels
really like accurate, right, but it doesn't feel like you're
like punching down or like, oh no, that's so interesting.
I feel like about your comedy.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, and also like I am basic at the end
of the day too. I can make fun of influence,
but at ten pm, when I need my brain to
shut off, I'm on a YouTube channel watching an influencer.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Guys, I'm just trying to live my life.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I remember seeing your Daily Show audition. You showed it
to me and it was so funny, Like what was
that audition process like? And what do you think it
was about your audition that got you the job? Or
maybe you got some feedback where they were like we
loved this, Yeah, it really was so. I mean it
was like basically an entire year ago. I was asked
to like basically write my own like one to two
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minute segment. So I wrote this like really stupid segment
about how I was at the Spy.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Museum in DC and I just needed like a few
more bucks to get some more like freeze dried ice cream.
I rewatched it with you. I've rewatched it since then too.
I'm like, I do just think I was having so
much fun making that I thought it was so silly,
And I think that is probably the piece of advice
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that I tell myself with all of my comedy, is
like I don't need to be trying to make other
people laugh like I do, just need to be making
myself laugh, because once I'm trying to make some random
person with a completely different perspective of mine laugh, it's
not gonna work. It's not gonna feel authentic. So I
felt really good about that audition, but I felt good
(15:30):
about it in the way that I was like this
is funny, and not in a way of I'm going
to get this job. It felt like unattainable and absolutely
random to me. So getting like like meeting with you know,
producers here was like, what.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The hell is happening. But now I'm like, this is
so cool. I feel so lucky to be here.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And like just yeah excited for excited to like bring
in a new voice and bring in like my own
spin on things. And also I love like collaboration. That's
something that I don't get to do online.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I'm just like writing, directing, filming my own stuff, and
so that's something that's been really cool.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, working with you on that piece, Like we worked
on it for so long.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I feel like we both like had to adapt to
so many new things and like I learned an unbelievable
amount and it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, that was so much fun, like coming in and
doing like all those joke meetings and getting to bring
the writers in.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I know that's some of my favorite part is working
with the writers too, Like it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do you feel like coming here and being able to
bring that queer perspective to field pieces or what stories
you cover chats? Are there certain subjects you're excited to
go into.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm like game to do anything gay obviously,
what if I was like, I really like don't want
to be pigeonholed.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, I like I love being gay.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well, I'll just say that, like my favorite comedian, Like
I could name ten comedians right now who are my favorite.
I think every single one of them is queer. I'm biased,
I guess, but I also think like being in comedy,
there's something about it where it's like you're not explicitly
trying to be political, but it always is. And I
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think being gay has a huge factor to that too.
I could put something up and no one knows I'm gay,
but like I see that, like I have a like
queer perspective in everything that I do.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I feel like also a lot of the characters
you do in your TikTok and you know other videos,
are these like heterosexual stereotypes. Can you talk about like
playing with that? That's just like the comedy of heterosexuality,
which feels like something a little bit newer to make
kind of sure.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Which is fair, And I yeah, I think it's like
reminds me of like how silly like the low blows
are for like gay characters in TV for the past,
like however many years where it's just like, oh, you
gave this like gay character one personality trait, and I'm like,
why don't we do that? That's fine. Actually, let's do that.
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We can keep that, and let's also do that to
straight people. Also, it's like I was closeted.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
For so long, and not in a sad way.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Honestly, I was like so high in high school that
I didn't know I was gay. But it's like I
just I think it's so easy to It should be
easy to make fun of heterosexuality. It should be easy
to make fun of homosexuality. None of it needs to
be like punching down. I just think there's like obvious
things about people culturally that like we can all agree
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are funny, and also like none of that needs to
be a generalization. Like if I'm making fun of like heterosexuality,
I'm making fun of one very specific type of annoying person,
in the same way that if I'm making fun of homosexuality,
I'd be making fun of one very specific annoying gay person.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, yes, you have this girl. I'm trying to remember
this one video you have as like the lesbian girl
drama video and the woman who's just like going on
this like rant about what's going on in her circle
and like if you knew, And that was one of
my favorites ohs.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So basically everybody's been wondering what I know, and it's
a lot. Now if y'all are wondering, do I know
these girls? Yeah, I know them actually very well. Do
I know them personally? No, but we hang out in
the exact same circles. I'm just outside of that circle.
I made so many videos at one point, like in
twenty twenty that people will like say to me all
(19:40):
the time, oh, my favorite video of yours, and I'm like,
I think I did that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I don't think anyone can remember anything about twenty twenty
that is a good like try making sour dough bread, yeah, exactly.
Do you have thoughts on you know, you're talking about
playing yourself as your like Daily Show Kara, but do
you have ideas on how you want to build that
persona as you know the Daily Show Grace, Kool and
(20:06):
Schmidt make the character your own?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I think every year that I've been doing comedy, which
I kind of since maybe like twenty fifteen, because I
started doing comedy in college and then I moved to
Chicago for three years, Like I do think like my
comedic voice changes and gets more like refined every year.
I also think in every segment that I've done here,
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like I've gained more confidence, like truly in a way
that's like kind of shocking. Like my first segment, like
live segment, I did feel like honestly really confident, but
I in a way that like was felt really cool
and empowering. But then like the second one, I was like,
oh my god, I'm like twice as confident this time
than I was last time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And that has kept growing.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And also I think like working with the writers here
has been like really inspiring and really fun. So I'm
kind of excited to see how my comedic voice you know,
evolves as well, like through this show, which I think
it does with any job that I take.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I know, one thing, like just working with you as
a director. You know, a lot of the correspondence that
we work with come from like an improv background or
a stand up background. But I think because you come
from the social media background, you have such a command
of like reactions sure, and such an ability to do
so much with your facial expression, and you know, do
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you feel like there are certain like superpowers that you've
gotten from doing so many videos for social media, seeing
what does well, what doesn't do well, what people react to.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I mean, I do think it is a combination of
like my social media background, but also like I did
improv for so long, and I did it like an
insane amount. In twenty nineteen, I was doing improv like
five nights a week, and it was like my life.
In improv, you have like one split second to make
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a decision. So that's like a really interesting way of
like which I guess I have.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Used with like a man on the street stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I've learned through both improv and social media to like
trust my gut first and foremost. And I think that
my brain honestly is going the fastest, is like at
its highest capacity when I'm like acting, and every other
time of the day it's going at a truly glacial pace.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You're just saving it up.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We're going into an election year, so it's going to
be like a lot of political stories. Are there any
twenty twenty four election stories or races or you know,
sort of even bigger ideas about politics in America that
you're interested in exploring. Dude, I want to go to
a Trump rally.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
God, I don't. I don't know. If I'm like I
think i'd be truly scared. I don't know. I mean
it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I've obviously been at Pride so many times that I've
been around like super fucking crazy protesters whom are scary.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I also like, okay, I went to a liberal arts school.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Now I live in Brooklyn, and so it's like I
am in a like total and in this industry.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
A total liberal bubble. So I think it would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And I'm just like so curious to see what's gonna
happen election wise. I mean, like I can make a
guess what I think is gonna happen, but I think
it's gonna be like a crazy year.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
We'll see.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I mean, I'm excited to like make fun of every
single politician. So many of them are dumb. And I'm
not saying I'm smart, I'm just saying they're dumb.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, we should do something
about like that. Don't say gay bill stuff and oh yeah,
because that is so wild.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's truly ridiculous. There are absolutely like bigger things to
worry about.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, Like a teacher could get fired for having like
a picture of their partner on their desk.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right, but then they also need to carry a gun.
So that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, exactly as they're doing their like active shooter drill
hiding in the road. It's truly art closet.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, it's it's a horrible time to be alive, and yeah,
we just have.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
To enjoy it and see what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, yes, I guess maybe, Like same question back at you,
like what do you want to focus on in the
next year, Like what is like feeling?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What are you compelled to bring in to the show?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah for twenty twenty four. I mean, I feel like
reproductive rights are such a huge issue, like thinking about
what just happened with that poor woman in Texas. I mean,
I'm a mom, and you know, it's I can't imagine
going through that kind of heartbreak where you're so excited
to have a baby and you find out it's not viable,
and you know, you have politicians who are saying like, no,
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you need to carry this baby to term and give
birth to it, and it could you could not be
able to have another child because they're being forced. So
it's just like crazy, barbaric stuff that's happening in our country.
Of course, with reproductive rights, those stories are really hard
to cover. Because they're so depressing. Like Sam b had
a great segment on The Daily Show years ago where
(25:16):
it was like she just kept holding or meeting different
cute animals because the story was so depressing. So it
was just this like escalation of her, like going to
the zoo and holding a sloth because she just the
more information she got. So it's yeah, it's kind of
finding those games and those ways to take you know,
these stories that are really depressing about the state of
(25:37):
our country and democracy and like how do we find
a way through that gets people thinking about that?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, or you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Know, and again with like I was so happy we
got to do an environmental story. I'm always trying to
get any kind of environmental story on the show because
because The.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Daily Show doesn't believe in climate change.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes, I'm like, guys, Hello, can't believe you asked me
a question. Crazy. Usually nobody asked me questions except like
how's my light?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, this is fun. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Welcome to the show. It's so exciting you're here.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I am excited and excited to work with you again too.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, it'll be fun. Well, thanks so much for joining
me and Grace and thanks for listening to The Daily
Show Your's edition, Bye Bye.
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Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by
searching The Daily Show wherever you get your podcasts. Watch
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