April 27, 2022 • 44 mins
Reggie Miller tells Dan that the NBA Playoffs is the best time for a player to shine. Reggie says that the mindset of todays young NBA player can be frustrating some time.
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Well, if you like a draft where you
have no idea what's going to happen, you'll be entertained
tomorrow night, that's for sure, final hour coming up and
get an idea of what's going to happen with Baker
Mayfield and Deebo Samuel. Maybe Debo just stays there, Maybe
San Francisco pays him. Isn't that the best place for him?
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Do you want to go to a place where they're
going to weaken themselves because they have to give up
a couple of first round draft picks for you. He
wants to get paid. You know, Tyreek Killed, Davante Adams,
Amari Cooper, They've all been dealt to new teams this offseason,
and now you have Devo Samuel looking to land a
similar deal, and you start to you know, if you
look at cooper cups contract that he signed prior to
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last year, he had arguably the greatest season in the
history of that position. Now we can have some arguments there,
but one of the greatest. Nobody's going to argue that.
I think the Ram's got him for a three years,
forty seven million dollars PAULI exactly three years forty seven,
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and they said in this after this year is some
people estimate that would be more like a five year
one hundred, where the first sixty or seventy would have
been guaranteed. The packers in chiefs got two first round
picks combined for Hill and Adams. Not to mention, whichever
team lands Debo will be expected to sign him to
a long term deal. It's one thing when you get him,
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you have to give up something and then you have
to sign him. But you know, Tom Pelacero, the great
reporter for the NFL network, joined his first hour and
he said he just doesn't see them getting rid of
Deebo Samuel. They'll somehow try to figure this out, and
probably after the first round we'll get a better idea
of what's going to happen with Baker Mayfield. I don't
trust anybody who tells you anything publicly in this business
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when it comes to the NFL. Now, when Carolina says, hey,
we might be interested in a quarterback here that they
reportedly went to Sam Darnold to cushion the blow if
they draft a quarterback, Hey, we want to let you
know Sam we might draft a quarterback. Okay, it's a
good story, But would you telegraph this unless you wanted
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to telegraph this for maybe other reasons. Why would you
tell anybody what you're going to do. We don't know
what Jacksonville is doing at the top of the draft,
and they have no competition. It's like you have the
number one pick, take whoever you want. We're not sure
who we're taken. But when it comes to these quarterbacks,
and I think most of these quarterbacks are second round picks,
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second round talents, I should say, But you know, every
year quarterbacks are taken higher than they should, some fall
to lower than they should, and somebody's going to probably
get a bargain here. You know, Desmond Ritter, the quarterback
at Cincinnati, has a lot of potential. Got to get
better with completion percentage. But I watched yesterday the Mothership
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had a draft special. Dan Orlovsky had to break down
on Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. If you can find it,
I would encourage you to watch that. When you see
an analyst actually teach you something, not just tell you,
show you. And Orlovsky was unbelievable with one play from
Desmond Ridder It wasn't even a touchdown, it wasn't a
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big game. It was against Indiana. But what he did
in showing you what scouts, coaches and gems would be
looking for in a quarterback was really remarkable. I text
you after I watched it. I said, that was well done,
really well done, because I learned something. Nobody was shouting
at me. Nobody was you know, how do we talk
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about the Cowboys or Baker Mayfield. It was Desmond Ridder.
You're not going to stop what you're doing to go Oh,
they're breaking down, Desmond Ridder. But what he showed me
and told me in that two minute clip breakdown was
really unbelievable. And I love seeing that when you have
smart TV. And I think a lot of Orlovsky because
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he knows the position. He didn't play it well. He'll
acknowledge that, but he knows it and to see what
they see, that's what I want to know. How do
you make me smarter? And Orlovsky made me smarter with
Desmond Ridder. I did reach out as soon as I
saw that clip. I reached out to a source who
was a scout and I said, hey, Orlovsky just broke
down Desmond Ridder, and he said, look, great upside. Love
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a lot of things there, it's just sometimes decision making.
You got a complete at least sixty percent of your passes,
that would be the big thing. Now, can you get
a bargain? Yes? Also, I was told somebody's going to
go up for that thirty second pick in the first
round because you want to get that quarterback on a
five year deal. That's really important. Teddy Bridgewater Lamar Jackson,
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you want to go up and get him? Pick him off?
You know, is Malik Willis going to be there? Don't
think so. It might be Sam Howe, could be Matt Carroll.
You know, maybe the Lions are gonna be taking a
quarterback there instead of you know, really high in the draft.
But PAULI got all excited when he heard the Carolina
Panthers saying, hey, you know what, we might be taking
a quarterback in the first round, that they liked a
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couple of quarterbacks there. Don't I don't believe you unless
you're saying, hey, if Caroline's gonna take a quarterback, we've
got I mean, are you that dumb? Where you go?
Did you hear what they said they might take a quarterback.
We better go up to the Giants who were in
front of Carolina, and then we're gonna get our quarterback.
There's nobody in the there's no quarterback in the draft
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that I'd be jumping up. I would wait if somebody
falls in my lap and you have to take him,
like Pittsburgh at twenty. If Malik Willis is there and
you love him, then you take him. Can he picktt
you take him? Yeah, Paul, you only need one GM
to get nervous and twitchy. It's like a John Lynch
with the Niners convinced the Bears they were going to
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take a quarterback, and they trade up one spot to
get mister Trubisky and gave up a lot to go
up a spot. It's a while, but it's a terrible
Even if Trubisky worked out, they could have got him
for nothing. Yeah, there's no competition. It's like the Giants.
You know, they tried to tell us Dave gettlman, Hey,
if we didn't take him, Washington was going to Washington
was taking Dwayne Haskins because Daniel Snyder, his son, I
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guess went to high school with Dwayne Haskins, knew him
and was going to take him. I don't think anybody
was taking Daniel Jones. A lot of talent, but okay,
he just he's kind of standard quarterback. He's okay. Bulls
Bucks coming up tonight, Nuggets at the Warriors, the Heat
close out the Hawks, Grizzlies up three two on the Timberwolves,
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and the Son's up three two on the Pelicans. We've
touched on a lot of this with John ramp Not
the greatest dunk of all time, not the greatest playoff
dunk of all time, but I do have respect for
the dunk in the moment of kind of energizing your team,
your fan base to come back from thirteen points down.
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You know one thing that stood out with the Hawks
and the Heat is Trey Young disappeared. You don't have
Jimmy Butler or Kyle Lowry and you're Trey Young and
you can't light up the Heat. Wow, that's embarrassing. Unless
you're injured. They didn't have Jimmy Butler or Kyle Lowry.
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You just had a you know, you get into those funks.
You know, you'll have guys they call it getting in
the zone where you can't miss, and then you have
these moments where you can't make but you've got to
force the action, and he wasn't even forcing up shots there.
We'll talk to Reggie Miller about that coming up eight
seven seven three d P Show Email address DP at
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dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We
spend a little bit of time talking about the HBO.
It's not a documentary, it's a docudrama on the Lakers
now based off Jeff Perlman's book The Lakers in Showtime.
And I'm watching the first episode and I got I'm
ten minutes in and I'm already mad because Jerry West,
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you know, was the architect for a lot of these
great Laker teams, Hall of Famer for the Lakers, and
you know, frequent gas and one of my idols growing up.
And I'm watching how he's being portrayed really as somebody
who's out of control, anger issues, breaking a golf club
at the golf course, you know, taking his MVP trophy
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that he won when they lost in the finals to
the Celtics, and he's trying to destroy it. I mean,
he comes off as unhinged, comes off as a troubled person,
and look he might be. I just felt really bad
you know that people who don't know Jerry West might
only know him for that, and he deserves better than that.
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But it's a docu drama. It's it's sort of based
loosely based on stories or reporting. I understand all of that.
You know, there's a moment where doctor Jerry Buss is
being consoled by somebody that his wife is dying, and
then he eventually is trying to have sex with a
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person who's consoling him. I don't know if it's a
true story. Doctor Jerry Buss is no longer alive, but
that's you know, sometimes you do these things. I know
it's loosely based, but if I'm that person or i'm
you know, that's that's a family member. People watching don't
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know that. People people look at that and go, oh man,
Jerry West was crazy. He just deserves better than that.
And I felt bad, and we've tried to have Jerry
on you know, I think Jerry's gonna sue um, and
he's talking about taking this, you know, to the Supreme
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Court defamation of character. And I don't know if it's
the right thing to object to it, um, But this
is this is Jerry, like he's competitive and and you know,
he might be that person, he might be angry. I
just it didn't feel like that they presented him in
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a light that one of the greatest. You know, he's
probably the second greatest front office person in history behind
Red Arbuck. But you know, when you add a little bit,
when something's based on a on a story or based
on a true story, you're going to add to it.
There are things you can go through. Um, straight out
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of Compton, you know, they the movie about ice Cube
and Company, and he said, there are things that didn't happen.
But you know you're gonna over emphasize something. I get it.
It's just I don't know if people are watching that thinking, oh,
this is loosely based, or you know, they're just trying
to overdramatize something. And I just I felt I can't imagine.
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And maybe Jerry didn't watch it, maybe he's watched some
of the clips, but I can't imagine that first episode
and you're the logo. You start watching and it's only
five minutes in, You're like, oh my god, what are
they doing to him? Like guy was mad? And maybe
Jerry was like that back then. Maybe maybe he was,
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but I have to I have to. It hurt me,
It really did, because I have so much respect for
him and if he does. You know, he talked about
growing up. Imagine growing up and your your father's an alcoholic,
abusing your mom, and Jerry goes to bed with a
shotgun under his mattress because he's gonna kill his dad.
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The next time this happens, I'm blowing your head off,
all right, Try growing up in that, you know kind
of world and not be affected. And I, you know,
I just felt bad. I did. And we had Jason
Clark on and he portrays Jerry in the you know,
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the docu drama John c Riley, we had him on.
He plays doctor Bus. But yeah, I was it was
just I always I was really bummed out, really bummed out. Yeah, Ton, Yeah,
when I was watching it again, We're not there. But
you take those kind of liberties. I don't know where
you draw the line when it comes to slander, libel
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and things like that. Everyone knows he's portraying Jerry West.
We had the actor on the show, but just seems
like there's there's got to be a line there where
you can't just kind of make up stuff. Yeah, and
the book and the TV show are two different things.
No one's accusing the book of being factually incorrect, at
least at this junct. I haven't seen anyone accusing the book.
But you know, a screenwriter takes the book and says,
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give me the best parts, let me pick cherry picked
the dramatic parts, the salacious parts, and let me pump
them up with a script. Because nobody has the text
of what was said in private meetings. There's no way
to have that. Yeah, yeah, see, we happened to be
in a unique situation where we can watch back what
we do and then like judge ourselves based on how
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something came across. And there's a lot of times that
I'll watch something back that we did and I'm like, wow,
I sound like a real jerk, Like I sound like
a real a hole, and I don't really like the
way that I came across. Sometimes it's hard to watch
someone's impression of you or something that maybe maybe did
and then you don't like the way that that looks
and it hurts, you know, but that doesn't mean that
it's completely inaccurate. And I know that Jerry liked Sydney
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Moncreef wanted to take Sydney Moncrief instead of Magic Johnson.
I know that that story's been out there. I get it.
Sidney Moroncreef is a great player. I think he's in
the Hall of Fame as well. He's not Magic, but
it just felt like man in the first fifteen minutes
of that first episode, it was like, damn, can we
get something nice about Jerry? And it just felt like
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it was just compressed into that. I just thought, God's
and look, I'm defensive. I'm gonna be defensive until he dies.
Um and even then after I will be um. And
I'm you know, I'm not unbiased with this, but I
just that was tough, that one. That one was tough
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to watch. And then Jerry, I think is gonna sue
Chris in La. Hey, Chris, morning, Dan. I'm glad you've
got into this because a lot of people in LA
don't like this. I have a problem with HBO trying
to make it seem like it's just a docu drama because, um,
as someone just said there, it's based on real people.
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So as a general public, as a viewer, we don't
know what part is real, we don't know which part
is fake. And to say that well as docu drama
and we take poetic license. I think that's wrong to me.
It would be like if I a story on Dan
Patrick and the Danetts and then I put in there
that one of you is leaving the show frequently going
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to a CD area looking for prostitutes or something. The
viewer doesn't know what the right I need a second
source on that, Chris. I'm just saying it's wrong. And
the first show where they showed Norm Nixon calling Magic
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dumb and country and all that, I was like, hmm,
I mean that, I don't know. It just it doesn't
sit well. And I don't blame Jerry for being upset
and possibly trying to sue them for defamation and seeing
where it goes. But um, HBO doubled down onto being
a doctor drum. I just think that's the poor excuse.
Thank you, Chris. I mean, I'd like to have a
documentary on this, not a donkey drum that's sort of base. Yeah, Mark,
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I think the Lakers are coming out with one about
the eighties Lakers with participation from Well that's based off Magic.
I think, isn't that what the documentary is? I think
there's another one on top of it. I'll check all right,
let me take a break, Reggie Miller will join us,
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Lakers announced on Monday a nine part documentary series will
air on Hulu in twenty twenty two. They said this
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a while ago. The project will be helmed by Genie Buss,
and according to the release by the team, the series
will cover the last four decades of Laker basketball and
pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Magic Kareem shack All are going
to be involved. The release also promises never before seeing
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interview footage from the late owner Jerry Buss. So this
was last year they announced that, and this is coming
out sometime in twenty twenty two. All right, we'll get
some more phone calls coming up. We make way for
Reggie Miller, NBA Hall of Famer. He did Pelican Sons
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last night and on the call for Game six in
New Orleans. That'll be tomorrow night, seven thirty Eastern on
TNT REGs. Good to have you back. Is there any
chance that Zion could play tomorrow night? No? Okay, Look,
I've been calling and clamoring for it. But you see
him in warmups and he looks over he looks overweight.
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But some of the moves he is making in his warmups,
oh my goodness. And that's why I keep yelling to
the rooftops. If you can go through your legs two
times and reverse three sixty Jam, you can give me
fifteen minutes. Theodore, you can give me fifteen minutes. But
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I think the Pelicans are going to air on the
side of caution. And they are in such a rhythm
right now with the nucleus that has gotten them to
this point. I don't think they want to kind of
mess up the apple cart. Do you think he wants
to play and they don't want him to play? I
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think if I'm sitting over there and I'm Zion Williamson,
and I feel I could help this team. Sure, I'm
any player wants to feel that they can be out
there to help their squad out. This feels like the
opposite of the nets with Ben Simmons that I don't know. Look,
it's it's hard for me. You know. People always ask me,
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Now you know I've been retired fifteen plus years, do
I miss the game? And I tell Usually I tell
them during the regular season, not so much because of
travel and the day to day we're to tear. What
I missed the most about NBA is now the playoffs
and to see some of our young stars not want
to be a part of it. And now again I
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know injuries are a part of it, and I'm not
saying Zion does not want to be a part of it,
but this is the best time of the year because
you're going against the best and it's the adjustments in
the everyday stress is what I missed about the playoffs,
the adjustments and just hand to hand, head to head
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mental challenge battle. And I'm sure if Zion could play,
it was allowed to play, he would be out there.
But just looking at his body, he doesn't look like
he's one hundred percent in shape. And when you get
to this level of the playoffs, you've got to be
all in. Well, you did say this about Ben Simmons
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out for Game four. This dude zero competitive fire. He
did say that he wasn't going to play in game three.
There was a chance he was going to play in
Game four. I just don't know what it is. If
it is, you know that there's something deeper to this,
I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm
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trying to be sensitive to it. But after a while,
you're like, look, if you think you can play, then
this isn't mental. This is about physical and what treatment
are you getting. You know, it just feels like it's
fair game to be able to ask him some of
these things because he keeps hinting, and somebody's leaking this
information to the media, saying, hey, you know what, he's
been paying free for ten days, been working out, he
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could play, and get like, I'm baffled at what happened
this entire year with Ben Simmons. The Nets easily could
have won Game one, he used it, could have won
Game two. They come back home down love too. And
as a former basketball player and during my time, you
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know I had I wouldn't say bad ankles, but I
would twist my ankles from time to time and being
able to play through that pain case some point against
MJ during the Conference finals at some point, and you
know for him to say, I'm not going to play
a Game three, but I could play Game four. If
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you could play game four, you could play Game three
where your team needs you to most. So you let
that slide. Then when you go down three zero, you
can't come back and say my back is hurt and
I had a misstep. The optics of it just looks bad.
You can't hint of coming back, and then all of
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a sudden be put back on the shelf. That was
the whole point I was making, because you've they need you,
and as slim of a chance as it was, they
were never going to come back win that series. But
you still do have Kevin Durant and a Kylee Ree
and if you win one game, you don't know, someone
could twists the ankle in Boston and they be down
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one guy. It's possible, not likely, but it was possible.
But go out there for fifteen eighteen minutes, you know,
give your fan based something to look forward to for
next season, but to totally shelf it and that's what
you've done all season long. I think that's what frustrates people.
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So that's why I say the comparative fight you've got
to have. You have to have it, and number two,
your team has got to feel like they can trust you.
Do you think do you think he wants to play
on night? Like next year? What happens in the off
season where all of a sudden he's ready to go
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and he's a different player. I guess we'll see next October, now,
won't wine, I mean, he won't play in the summer League.
They won't risk that, So we'll just have to wait
till next October. But if you're the Nets, don't you
have to wait and see what this looks like with
Kevin durant, An Kyrie and Ben Simmons. I mean you
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made the trade. If not, you basically gave James Harden
the way, which at this point, I mean, James is
not looking great, but at least he's playing and he's capable. Man,
I would have him playing in the summer league. Redge,
I like, at some point, I got I gotta have
him out. No way they're going to risk him playing
in the summer league because if he plays in the
Summer League against G League and rookies and he gets
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shown up, that fan base will go crazy. They can't
risk him looking bad or or not looking up to
part after having all this time off. They are not
going to risk him playing in the Summer League game.
Talking to Reggie Miller, he'll be on the call Game
six tomorrow nights and thirty Eastern on TNT, the Pelicans
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and the Suns. Booker is not going to be back
for this series. No, Okay, he's done, and he very
well could be done the start if they were to
advance the start of the next round. I mean, these
things take two to three weeks, and we're coming up
on game six tomorrow. Well, Luca, Luca was out for
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a while as well with the castring and a cash string.
Two different things. Okay, different things, but again you never know,
and we talk about competitive fire. Devin Booker hasn't. I
think if it was up to Devin Booker, he probably
would would risk it. But he was out two and
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a half three weeks. On the right one, I believe
he had in December or January. I think this one
is the left one. So I think they're going to
air on the side of caution. You don't win thirty
two games on the road, thirty two games at home,
sixty four wins without having some hiccups. Both Chris Paul
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and Devin Booker at times have missed a chunk of
time and they didn't miss a beat. So I think
that's what they're counting on. Their experience, their finals experience
over a year ago. And they are a deep team
and there are a bunch of role players that understand that.
You just hope they're not taxing Chris Paul because last
night going into halftime, he was absolutely gassed, and they're
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putting a lot on his plate. And that's why other
guys like mcal Bridges, who played great playoff career high
thirty one points, those kind of guys have to step
up and play a significant role. John Morant last night
the Grizzlies come back from thirteen down, and he had
a dunk heard around the NBA. You know recency bias. Well,
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it's got to be the greatest playoff dunk of all time.
It's not. It was impressive because it helped that team
win game. That's the most important thing out of this.
You got a few all time playoff dunks that you
want to bring up, I would say, was the Doctor
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j cuff over Michael Cooper? Was that a playoff game
or was that a regular season game? I think that
was playoffs. They would have been finals. That's one of them.
I'm trying to think another all time dunk in a game.
I'm sure Michael has a few. Scottie over ewing. Oh yes,
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Scotty definitely over ewing, then throwing them down, walking over them,
walking over to Spike Lee telling him to sit his Yeah,
that's classics, that whole I kind of like that one.
That's a good one. John Starks dunking on the Bulls
in the playoffs, the left handed, left handed kJ dunking
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on Elijah left handed, very nice. Yeah. But but here's
the other thing, Reggie. It's when you dunk on somebody,
there's somebody up there to greet you at the rim.
Not I'm going to stand here and take a charge.
That's not dunking on somebody. But it is because if
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you look at where Jaw took off, all right, the
dotted line, all right, all right, oh, and cocked it
all the way back. But the guy he had normally
nobody was guarding him up there. It was just he
had to he had to maneuver around Malik Beasley. That
is something for you, don't You and I are talking.
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You and I are talking because we're experienced three point shooters.
We don't get to navigate way up there. You and I, Well,
you don't. That's why you used to. That's why I
still have. I have a knee replacement Redge. What Paulie Dan,
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we're for getting a dunk Reggie Miller versus the Nets,
Kenyon Martin, Jason kiddin next team. And for the record, Paulie,
I do have to say this, that was my last
official in game dunk ever. So that was the last
time I ever dunked in a game, which I wish
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I would have saved it for that Detroit series when
Tayson was coming from behind. I had nothing left in
the tank, had nothing left in the tank. You still
think about that, don't you? Yeah, because it was a
gold ten. You can't go there because they didn't call it. Um. Yes,
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I do think about it. Theodore, what advice would you give? Okay,
let me let me preface this by saying, you know,
I see John Moran at age twenty two, attacking the rim.
And we've seen players, young players attacking the rim and
then they eventually, you know, develop other skills. You either
get hurt or you change, or you get hurt and change.
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You know, Jordan stopped going to the hoop, Iverson started,
stopped attacking, at Derrick Rose stopped attacking. What advice would
you give John Morant a twenty two year old John
Morant right now with his game. I'm not going to
tell him to stop at all. I love his aggressiveness.
I think you wouldn't worry about him getting hurt. He'll
(30:27):
over time, he will figure it out. I think I
guess we could throw Dwayne Wade in there, and well, yeah,
you don't want to take away a player's ability to
think and to react on the fly. Look all the
the guys that you just mentioned Hall of Famers, they
(30:48):
figured it out in time. Now, he missed what like
twenty five games this year, and I think the way
he approaches a game, I'm not going to put a
saddle on a dude where his biggest attribute is being
able to break down the defense. Now, learning how to fall,
(31:11):
knowing how to roll, that will come in time. But
I'm not going to say like, dude, you need to
start working on your jump shot because you're taking too
many hits. No, because what he's doing he gets the
grizzlies in the bonus early. He puts pressure on Biggs.
He gets guys in foul trouble. I am not going
to try to put a saddle on a wild horse.
I'll try to tame him the older he gets. But
(31:32):
you vu jaw it continued to be great. Can you
help me understand what bus rider and bus driver? And
what the hell Charles Barkley and Kevin Durandore arguing about here? Red?
Oh my god, I think it changes every day. Truthfully.
(31:53):
Do you consider is Kevin Durand a bus driver or
a bus rider? Well here's the thing, because it depends
on what wait wait wait, you didn't answer that. Is
he a bus Was he riding the bus or driving
the bus with the Warriors? Well he was a he
(32:13):
was a finals MVP back to back years. Okay, okay,
so to me that's somewhat driving the bus okay. Where
he could have been a rider. Is you joined the
seventy three and nineteen to get those two rings? Yeah,
that's the That's what people on both sides of the
fence will say, if you're Kevin Durant fan, and if
(32:35):
you're not, but I mean, you don't get back to
bout finals MVP in average thirty five points against Lebron
James if you're not a bus driver. Yeah, I thought Charles.
You know, Charles was a bus rider. He I mean
he tried to join Houston with you know those stars
there and he got out of Philly to go to Phoenix.
(32:58):
So I mean there's part of that that if you
want to get real particular, he tried to bus ride
to get a title in Houston. True, but I think
all those guys when he was in Houston were Pastor Prime, Clyde,
Hakim and Charles and Scottie. I mean, these guys were
just trying to get together for one last hurrah. See,
(33:20):
you're a bus driver. You never got on somebody else's bus.
You were always driving the bus in Indiana for nearly
two decades. But maybe I should have been a bus rider,
because that's what it's funny because we knock Kevin Durant
for being a bus rider bus driver, but the media
(33:41):
says a championships championship matters. Championships championships. REGGI didn't win
a championship, but so you know, we were knocking from
being a rider versus a driver. At the end of
the day, media, which one is more important? Important loyalty
or championships or both? Well, give me the team you
almost went to. Was it Boston? You were going to
(34:03):
come back and play for that team that won the title? Yeah,
but that wasn't given. They weren't considered the favorite, but
it was closed. But you wouldn't want Yeah, in hindsight,
But going into that season, did everyone be like, oh,
they're gonna win. It wasn't set that they were going
to win a championship. But if you knew that they
(34:24):
were going to win a championship, would you have come
back and played. I couldn't do it because all the
tears I shed in Indiana with that fan base. We
cried together on all those you know, those hurtful Knicks losses,
Bulls losses, Lakers losses in the finals. It wouldn't be
(34:47):
fair for me to be on a podium or a
stage popping bub because I won my one championship and
in Indiana we as a team that we grew up together.
He had the heartaches together. I can't be sipping champagne
and getting a ring. And I didn't do it for y'all.
That's just my mentality. This is my thinking. That's fair.
(35:10):
I'm not saying it's right because you know, people on
Twitter will go crazy that I didn't win a championship. Okay,
I'm cool with that, but at least I went down
swinging and fighting. Would you join? Would you join another
radio show if you could have a better chance to win?
Don't you think Colin Coward has been calling left it
right for me to join his show? You think you think, uh,
(35:34):
get dayless? No, don't always call me to come on. Absolutely,
you think I'm gonna jump ship to go on one
of those shows when I'm on the premier show of
all times, I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah, but you
know what, we haven't won anything. Reg Pacers where they're
(35:54):
in the same boat. We're gonna when we win on
the first one, it's gonna be like we five together.
We're the Indiana Pacers of sports talk radio. But we're coming.
We're coming for you, pi Will, Yeah, Pornheiser, We're coming
for y'all. Yeah, those punks. Reg Will be on the
(36:16):
call tomorrow night, seven thirty Eastern on TNT. The Pelicans
and the Suns, Thank you, Red, Safe travels, Love you Theodore,
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Yesterday we brought up the six year anniversary of Laramie
Tunsel being drafted by the Miami Dolphins. But the story
was the gas mask that he had and this was
(38:26):
ten minutes before he's going to be drafted. His social
media was hacked and then we saw him with his
gas mask on when he was in college. Well, Laramie
Tunsel just tweeted. For the past six years, I've been
asked about this moment, the gas mask. I have spent
six years trying to do rather than say on the
field and off the field. Fall twenty twenty one, I
(38:47):
spoke with Complex that's a sports website for the first
time about this moment. Today, the day before Draft Day,
I'm officially moving on and putting this moment and in
the past. I'm minting one of one NFT of the
infamous gas mask video to be Lizzie. Yes. Yes. A
(39:12):
portion of the proceeds will benefit Last Prisoner pr which
supports those incarcerated for cannabis offenses. So this is a
NFT of Laramie Tunso with the gas mask. Yes see.
How do we raise the money to buy this? I've
never seen an NFT before that. I was like, Oh,
(39:32):
I think I should buy this one. I want to
buy this one. Can you get a hold of our
friends at Panini and ask them if they can help
us with this? What if Panini went even further and
did a Laramie Tounso one of one actual card that
was scratch and sniff if you know what I mean,
So cannabis whatever, whatever you think whatever was in that mask,
(39:53):
scratch and sniff Panini, Laramie Tonsol one of one Reefer
smoke him if you got yes? Uh yeah, as Panini.
See what they if they can help us with that.
Alan Iverson is going to join us tomorrow. AI been
a while, It's been probably a decade since we've had
(40:14):
AI on. Jason in Nebraska joins us. Now, Hi, Jason,
what's on your mind? Hey? Danny Dane's love you guys,
Uh poly genius idea. Um, you guys have been bringing
up some great TV series, but I just wanted to
let you know, well, I'm sure you brought it up
actually a couple of days ago, Dan, but better call sauls.
Last season it fire really EXCELLENTE. And then, um, just
(40:39):
you know, Marvin is his unique self. I know he
is on the show, but just wanting to ask you
if he's becoming Nick Love in a little bit. I
noticed the Blue Jay's hat, So just wondering if he's
kind of selling out, you know, kind of like mclove
and would do at times. And I hate to bring
it up. But uh, Dan the mother Ship, they have
(40:59):
it for you again. They did it again. Uh thirty
for thirty Greg Norman's collapse at the Masters. He had
two voiceovers. I bet your hair was killing it those days.
You have one, cameo, oh brother, oh lord, no, it
was terrible. Let's go match all right, thank you Jameson. Yeah,
I had some people did a screenshot of my hair
and the Greg Norman thirty. Oh I I thought it
(41:22):
looked like mid season four. I think that they had
vo's voiceovers of me and they didn't show me on camera.
And you know, Jason thinks that maybe something was nefarious there,
but I was there. I covered that, and uh so,
I guess that's why they included me and at Yample.
If ESPN had thirty for thirty use a picture of
you with subpar hair, would you have pulled a jai.
(41:44):
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thing again about the Jerry West portrayal. Can you have
(42:28):
Adam McKay come on and just ask him what was
going through his head to come up with this kind
of stuff? Yeah, we could reach out to him. Thank you. Mark.
I just don't like when something's based off of it
because I don't think the audience is educated enough for
the most part to go, oh, that's real or that's
sort of real, or that's not real. I mean, you're
asking a lot of the audience, and that's why I
(42:50):
felt I felt bad for Jerry West. If he was
like this, was he always like this? I mean, that's
the thing. It would just had a problem with it. Todd,
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Well, if you like a draft where you
have no idea what's going to happen, you'll be entertained
tomorrow night, that's for sure, final hour coming up and
get an idea of what's going to happen with Baker
Mayfield and Deebo Samuel. Maybe Debo just stays there, Maybe
San Francisco pays him. Isn't that the best place for him?
(00:22):
Do you want to go to a place where they're
going to weaken themselves because they have to give up
a couple of first round draft picks for you. He
wants to get paid. You know, Tyreek Killed, Davante Adams,
Amari Cooper, They've all been dealt to new teams this offseason,
and now you have Devo Samuel looking to land a
similar deal, and you start to you know, if you
look at cooper cups contract that he signed prior to
(00:44):
last year, he had arguably the greatest season in the
history of that position. Now we can have some arguments there,
but one of the greatest. Nobody's going to argue that.
I think the Ram's got him for a three years,
forty seven million dollars PAULI exactly three years forty seven,
(01:05):
and they said in this after this year is some
people estimate that would be more like a five year
one hundred, where the first sixty or seventy would have
been guaranteed. The packers in chiefs got two first round
picks combined for Hill and Adams. Not to mention, whichever
team lands Debo will be expected to sign him to
a long term deal. It's one thing when you get him,
(01:28):
you have to give up something and then you have
to sign him. But you know, Tom Pelacero, the great
reporter for the NFL network, joined his first hour and
he said he just doesn't see them getting rid of
Deebo Samuel. They'll somehow try to figure this out, and
probably after the first round we'll get a better idea
of what's going to happen with Baker Mayfield. I don't
trust anybody who tells you anything publicly in this business
(01:50):
when it comes to the NFL. Now, when Carolina says, hey,
we might be interested in a quarterback here that they
reportedly went to Sam Darnold to cushion the blow if
they draft a quarterback, Hey, we want to let you
know Sam we might draft a quarterback. Okay, it's a
good story, But would you telegraph this unless you wanted
(02:12):
to telegraph this for maybe other reasons. Why would you
tell anybody what you're going to do. We don't know
what Jacksonville is doing at the top of the draft,
and they have no competition. It's like you have the
number one pick, take whoever you want. We're not sure
who we're taken. But when it comes to these quarterbacks,
and I think most of these quarterbacks are second round picks,
(02:35):
second round talents, I should say, But you know, every
year quarterbacks are taken higher than they should, some fall
to lower than they should, and somebody's going to probably
get a bargain here. You know, Desmond Ritter, the quarterback
at Cincinnati, has a lot of potential. Got to get
better with completion percentage. But I watched yesterday the Mothership
(02:57):
had a draft special. Dan Orlovsky had to break down
on Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. If you can find it,
I would encourage you to watch that. When you see
an analyst actually teach you something, not just tell you,
show you. And Orlovsky was unbelievable with one play from
Desmond Ridder It wasn't even a touchdown, it wasn't a
(03:19):
big game. It was against Indiana. But what he did
in showing you what scouts, coaches and gems would be
looking for in a quarterback was really remarkable. I text
you after I watched it. I said, that was well done,
really well done, because I learned something. Nobody was shouting
at me. Nobody was you know, how do we talk
(03:41):
about the Cowboys or Baker Mayfield. It was Desmond Ridder.
You're not going to stop what you're doing to go Oh,
they're breaking down, Desmond Ridder. But what he showed me
and told me in that two minute clip breakdown was
really unbelievable. And I love seeing that when you have
smart TV. And I think a lot of Orlovsky because
(04:05):
he knows the position. He didn't play it well. He'll
acknowledge that, but he knows it and to see what
they see, that's what I want to know. How do
you make me smarter? And Orlovsky made me smarter with
Desmond Ridder. I did reach out as soon as I
saw that clip. I reached out to a source who
was a scout and I said, hey, Orlovsky just broke
down Desmond Ridder, and he said, look, great upside. Love
(04:27):
a lot of things there, it's just sometimes decision making.
You got a complete at least sixty percent of your passes,
that would be the big thing. Now, can you get
a bargain? Yes? Also, I was told somebody's going to
go up for that thirty second pick in the first
round because you want to get that quarterback on a
five year deal. That's really important. Teddy Bridgewater Lamar Jackson,
(04:52):
you want to go up and get him? Pick him off?
You know, is Malik Willis going to be there? Don't
think so. It might be Sam Howe, could be Matt Carroll.
You know, maybe the Lions are gonna be taking a
quarterback there instead of you know, really high in the draft.
But PAULI got all excited when he heard the Carolina
Panthers saying, hey, you know what, we might be taking
a quarterback in the first round, that they liked a
(05:15):
couple of quarterbacks there. Don't I don't believe you unless
you're saying, hey, if Caroline's gonna take a quarterback, we've
got I mean, are you that dumb? Where you go?
Did you hear what they said they might take a quarterback.
We better go up to the Giants who were in
front of Carolina, and then we're gonna get our quarterback.
There's nobody in the there's no quarterback in the draft
(05:38):
that I'd be jumping up. I would wait if somebody
falls in my lap and you have to take him,
like Pittsburgh at twenty. If Malik Willis is there and
you love him, then you take him. Can he picktt
you take him? Yeah, Paul, you only need one GM
to get nervous and twitchy. It's like a John Lynch
with the Niners convinced the Bears they were going to
(05:59):
take a quarterback, and they trade up one spot to
get mister Trubisky and gave up a lot to go
up a spot. It's a while, but it's a terrible
Even if Trubisky worked out, they could have got him
for nothing. Yeah, there's no competition. It's like the Giants.
You know, they tried to tell us Dave gettlman, Hey,
if we didn't take him, Washington was going to Washington
was taking Dwayne Haskins because Daniel Snyder, his son, I
(06:23):
guess went to high school with Dwayne Haskins, knew him
and was going to take him. I don't think anybody
was taking Daniel Jones. A lot of talent, but okay,
he just he's kind of standard quarterback. He's okay. Bulls
Bucks coming up tonight, Nuggets at the Warriors, the Heat
close out the Hawks, Grizzlies up three two on the Timberwolves,
(06:45):
and the Son's up three two on the Pelicans. We've
touched on a lot of this with John ramp Not
the greatest dunk of all time, not the greatest playoff
dunk of all time, but I do have respect for
the dunk in the moment of kind of energizing your team,
your fan base to come back from thirteen points down.
(07:05):
You know one thing that stood out with the Hawks
and the Heat is Trey Young disappeared. You don't have
Jimmy Butler or Kyle Lowry and you're Trey Young and
you can't light up the Heat. Wow, that's embarrassing. Unless
you're injured. They didn't have Jimmy Butler or Kyle Lowry.
(07:28):
You just had a you know, you get into those funks.
You know, you'll have guys they call it getting in
the zone where you can't miss, and then you have
these moments where you can't make but you've got to
force the action, and he wasn't even forcing up shots there.
We'll talk to Reggie Miller about that coming up eight
seven seven three d P Show Email address DP at
(07:49):
dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We
spend a little bit of time talking about the HBO.
It's not a documentary, it's a docudrama on the Lakers
now based off Jeff Perlman's book The Lakers in Showtime.
And I'm watching the first episode and I got I'm
ten minutes in and I'm already mad because Jerry West,
(08:13):
you know, was the architect for a lot of these
great Laker teams, Hall of Famer for the Lakers, and
you know, frequent gas and one of my idols growing up.
And I'm watching how he's being portrayed really as somebody
who's out of control, anger issues, breaking a golf club
at the golf course, you know, taking his MVP trophy
(08:36):
that he won when they lost in the finals to
the Celtics, and he's trying to destroy it. I mean,
he comes off as unhinged, comes off as a troubled person,
and look he might be. I just felt really bad
you know that people who don't know Jerry West might
only know him for that, and he deserves better than that.
(08:59):
But it's a docu drama. It's it's sort of based
loosely based on stories or reporting. I understand all of that.
You know, there's a moment where doctor Jerry Buss is
being consoled by somebody that his wife is dying, and
then he eventually is trying to have sex with a
(09:20):
person who's consoling him. I don't know if it's a
true story. Doctor Jerry Buss is no longer alive, but
that's you know, sometimes you do these things. I know
it's loosely based, but if I'm that person or i'm
you know, that's that's a family member. People watching don't
(09:40):
know that. People people look at that and go, oh man,
Jerry West was crazy. He just deserves better than that.
And I felt bad, and we've tried to have Jerry
on you know, I think Jerry's gonna sue um, and
he's talking about taking this, you know, to the Supreme
(10:01):
Court defamation of character. And I don't know if it's
the right thing to object to it, um, But this
is this is Jerry, like he's competitive and and you know,
he might be that person, he might be angry. I
just it didn't feel like that they presented him in
(10:24):
a light that one of the greatest. You know, he's
probably the second greatest front office person in history behind
Red Arbuck. But you know, when you add a little bit,
when something's based on a on a story or based
on a true story, you're going to add to it.
There are things you can go through. Um, straight out
(10:45):
of Compton, you know, they the movie about ice Cube
and Company, and he said, there are things that didn't happen.
But you know you're gonna over emphasize something. I get it.
It's just I don't know if people are watching that thinking, oh,
this is loosely based, or you know, they're just trying
to overdramatize something. And I just I felt I can't imagine.
(11:09):
And maybe Jerry didn't watch it, maybe he's watched some
of the clips, but I can't imagine that first episode
and you're the logo. You start watching and it's only
five minutes in, You're like, oh my god, what are
they doing to him? Like guy was mad? And maybe
Jerry was like that back then. Maybe maybe he was,
(11:31):
but I have to I have to. It hurt me,
It really did, because I have so much respect for
him and if he does. You know, he talked about
growing up. Imagine growing up and your your father's an alcoholic,
abusing your mom, and Jerry goes to bed with a
shotgun under his mattress because he's gonna kill his dad.
(11:56):
The next time this happens, I'm blowing your head off,
all right, Try growing up in that, you know kind
of world and not be affected. And I, you know,
I just felt bad. I did. And we had Jason
Clark on and he portrays Jerry in the you know,
(12:17):
the docu drama John c Riley, we had him on.
He plays doctor Bus. But yeah, I was it was
just I always I was really bummed out, really bummed out. Yeah, Ton, Yeah,
when I was watching it again, We're not there. But
you take those kind of liberties. I don't know where
you draw the line when it comes to slander, libel
(12:37):
and things like that. Everyone knows he's portraying Jerry West.
We had the actor on the show, but just seems
like there's there's got to be a line there where
you can't just kind of make up stuff. Yeah, and
the book and the TV show are two different things.
No one's accusing the book of being factually incorrect, at
least at this junct. I haven't seen anyone accusing the book.
But you know, a screenwriter takes the book and says,
(12:58):
give me the best parts, let me pick cherry picked
the dramatic parts, the salacious parts, and let me pump
them up with a script. Because nobody has the text
of what was said in private meetings. There's no way
to have that. Yeah, yeah, see, we happened to be
in a unique situation where we can watch back what
we do and then like judge ourselves based on how
(13:20):
something came across. And there's a lot of times that
I'll watch something back that we did and I'm like, wow,
I sound like a real jerk, Like I sound like
a real a hole, and I don't really like the
way that I came across. Sometimes it's hard to watch
someone's impression of you or something that maybe maybe did
and then you don't like the way that that looks
and it hurts, you know, but that doesn't mean that
it's completely inaccurate. And I know that Jerry liked Sydney
(13:42):
Moncreef wanted to take Sydney Moncrief instead of Magic Johnson.
I know that that story's been out there. I get it.
Sidney Moroncreef is a great player. I think he's in
the Hall of Fame as well. He's not Magic, but
it just felt like man in the first fifteen minutes
of that first episode, it was like, damn, can we
get something nice about Jerry? And it just felt like
(14:04):
it was just compressed into that. I just thought, God's
and look, I'm defensive. I'm gonna be defensive until he dies.
Um and even then after I will be um. And
I'm you know, I'm not unbiased with this, but I
just that was tough, that one. That one was tough
(14:25):
to watch. And then Jerry, I think is gonna sue
Chris in La. Hey, Chris, morning, Dan. I'm glad you've
got into this because a lot of people in LA
don't like this. I have a problem with HBO trying
to make it seem like it's just a docu drama because, um,
as someone just said there, it's based on real people.
(14:47):
So as a general public, as a viewer, we don't
know what part is real, we don't know which part
is fake. And to say that well as docu drama
and we take poetic license. I think that's wrong to me.
It would be like if I a story on Dan
Patrick and the Danetts and then I put in there
that one of you is leaving the show frequently going
(15:08):
to a CD area looking for prostitutes or something. The
viewer doesn't know what the right I need a second
source on that, Chris. I'm just saying it's wrong. And
the first show where they showed Norm Nixon calling Magic
(15:28):
dumb and country and all that, I was like, hmm,
I mean that, I don't know. It just it doesn't
sit well. And I don't blame Jerry for being upset
and possibly trying to sue them for defamation and seeing
where it goes. But um, HBO doubled down onto being
a doctor drum. I just think that's the poor excuse.
Thank you, Chris. I mean, I'd like to have a
documentary on this, not a donkey drum that's sort of base. Yeah, Mark,
(15:54):
I think the Lakers are coming out with one about
the eighties Lakers with participation from Well that's based off Magic.
I think, isn't that what the documentary is? I think
there's another one on top of it. I'll check all right,
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some more phone calls coming up. We make way for
Reggie Miller, NBA Hall of Famer. He did Pelican Sons
(18:23):
last night and on the call for Game six in
New Orleans. That'll be tomorrow night, seven thirty Eastern on
TNT REGs. Good to have you back. Is there any
chance that Zion could play tomorrow night? No? Okay, Look,
I've been calling and clamoring for it. But you see
him in warmups and he looks over he looks overweight.
(18:47):
But some of the moves he is making in his warmups,
oh my goodness. And that's why I keep yelling to
the rooftops. If you can go through your legs two
times and reverse three sixty Jam, you can give me
fifteen minutes. Theodore, you can give me fifteen minutes. But
(19:07):
I think the Pelicans are going to air on the
side of caution. And they are in such a rhythm
right now with the nucleus that has gotten them to
this point. I don't think they want to kind of
mess up the apple cart. Do you think he wants
to play and they don't want him to play? I
(19:29):
think if I'm sitting over there and I'm Zion Williamson,
and I feel I could help this team. Sure, I'm
any player wants to feel that they can be out
there to help their squad out. This feels like the
opposite of the nets with Ben Simmons that I don't know. Look,
it's it's hard for me. You know. People always ask me,
(19:51):
Now you know I've been retired fifteen plus years, do
I miss the game? And I tell Usually I tell
them during the regular season, not so much because of
travel and the day to day we're to tear. What
I missed the most about NBA is now the playoffs
and to see some of our young stars not want
to be a part of it. And now again I
(20:14):
know injuries are a part of it, and I'm not
saying Zion does not want to be a part of it,
but this is the best time of the year because
you're going against the best and it's the adjustments in
the everyday stress is what I missed about the playoffs,
the adjustments and just hand to hand, head to head
(20:36):
mental challenge battle. And I'm sure if Zion could play,
it was allowed to play, he would be out there.
But just looking at his body, he doesn't look like
he's one hundred percent in shape. And when you get
to this level of the playoffs, you've got to be
all in. Well, you did say this about Ben Simmons
(20:57):
out for Game four. This dude zero competitive fire. He
did say that he wasn't going to play in game three.
There was a chance he was going to play in
Game four. I just don't know what it is. If
it is, you know that there's something deeper to this,
I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm
(21:17):
trying to be sensitive to it. But after a while,
you're like, look, if you think you can play, then
this isn't mental. This is about physical and what treatment
are you getting. You know, it just feels like it's
fair game to be able to ask him some of
these things because he keeps hinting, and somebody's leaking this
information to the media, saying, hey, you know what, he's
been paying free for ten days, been working out, he
(21:41):
could play, and get like, I'm baffled at what happened
this entire year with Ben Simmons. The Nets easily could
have won Game one, he used it, could have won
Game two. They come back home down love too. And
as a former basketball player and during my time, you
(22:04):
know I had I wouldn't say bad ankles, but I
would twist my ankles from time to time and being
able to play through that pain case some point against
MJ during the Conference finals at some point, and you
know for him to say, I'm not going to play
a Game three, but I could play Game four. If
(22:24):
you could play game four, you could play Game three
where your team needs you to most. So you let
that slide. Then when you go down three zero, you
can't come back and say my back is hurt and
I had a misstep. The optics of it just looks bad.
You can't hint of coming back, and then all of
(22:46):
a sudden be put back on the shelf. That was
the whole point I was making, because you've they need you,
and as slim of a chance as it was, they
were never going to come back win that series. But
you still do have Kevin Durant and a Kylee Ree
and if you win one game, you don't know, someone
could twists the ankle in Boston and they be down
(23:09):
one guy. It's possible, not likely, but it was possible.
But go out there for fifteen eighteen minutes, you know,
give your fan based something to look forward to for
next season, but to totally shelf it and that's what
you've done all season long. I think that's what frustrates people.
(23:33):
So that's why I say the comparative fight you've got
to have. You have to have it, and number two,
your team has got to feel like they can trust you.
Do you think do you think he wants to play
on night? Like next year? What happens in the off
season where all of a sudden he's ready to go
(23:54):
and he's a different player. I guess we'll see next October, now,
won't wine, I mean, he won't play in the summer League.
They won't risk that, So we'll just have to wait
till next October. But if you're the Nets, don't you
have to wait and see what this looks like with
Kevin durant, An Kyrie and Ben Simmons. I mean you
(24:17):
made the trade. If not, you basically gave James Harden
the way, which at this point, I mean, James is
not looking great, but at least he's playing and he's capable. Man,
I would have him playing in the summer league. Redge,
I like, at some point, I got I gotta have
him out. No way they're going to risk him playing
in the summer league because if he plays in the
Summer League against G League and rookies and he gets
(24:41):
shown up, that fan base will go crazy. They can't
risk him looking bad or or not looking up to
part after having all this time off. They are not
going to risk him playing in the Summer League game.
Talking to Reggie Miller, he'll be on the call Game
six tomorrow nights and thirty Eastern on TNT, the Pelicans
(25:02):
and the Suns. Booker is not going to be back
for this series. No, Okay, he's done, and he very
well could be done the start if they were to
advance the start of the next round. I mean, these
things take two to three weeks, and we're coming up
on game six tomorrow. Well, Luca, Luca was out for
(25:24):
a while as well with the castring and a cash string.
Two different things. Okay, different things, but again you never know,
and we talk about competitive fire. Devin Booker hasn't. I
think if it was up to Devin Booker, he probably
would would risk it. But he was out two and
(25:45):
a half three weeks. On the right one, I believe
he had in December or January. I think this one
is the left one. So I think they're going to
air on the side of caution. You don't win thirty
two games on the road, thirty two games at home,
sixty four wins without having some hiccups. Both Chris Paul
(26:06):
and Devin Booker at times have missed a chunk of
time and they didn't miss a beat. So I think
that's what they're counting on. Their experience, their finals experience
over a year ago. And they are a deep team
and there are a bunch of role players that understand that.
You just hope they're not taxing Chris Paul because last
night going into halftime, he was absolutely gassed, and they're
(26:27):
putting a lot on his plate. And that's why other
guys like mcal Bridges, who played great playoff career high
thirty one points, those kind of guys have to step
up and play a significant role. John Morant last night
the Grizzlies come back from thirteen down, and he had
a dunk heard around the NBA. You know recency bias. Well,
(26:51):
it's got to be the greatest playoff dunk of all time.
It's not. It was impressive because it helped that team
win game. That's the most important thing out of this.
You got a few all time playoff dunks that you
want to bring up, I would say, was the Doctor
(27:13):
j cuff over Michael Cooper? Was that a playoff game
or was that a regular season game? I think that
was playoffs. They would have been finals. That's one of them.
I'm trying to think another all time dunk in a game.
I'm sure Michael has a few. Scottie over ewing. Oh yes,
(27:36):
Scotty definitely over ewing, then throwing them down, walking over them,
walking over to Spike Lee telling him to sit his Yeah,
that's classics, that whole I kind of like that one.
That's a good one. John Starks dunking on the Bulls
in the playoffs, the left handed, left handed kJ dunking
(27:57):
on Elijah left handed, very nice. Yeah. But but here's
the other thing, Reggie. It's when you dunk on somebody,
there's somebody up there to greet you at the rim.
Not I'm going to stand here and take a charge.
That's not dunking on somebody. But it is because if
(28:18):
you look at where Jaw took off, all right, the
dotted line, all right, all right, oh, and cocked it
all the way back. But the guy he had normally
nobody was guarding him up there. It was just he
had to he had to maneuver around Malik Beasley. That
is something for you, don't You and I are talking.
(28:39):
You and I are talking because we're experienced three point shooters.
We don't get to navigate way up there. You and I, Well,
you don't. That's why you used to. That's why I
still have. I have a knee replacement Redge. What Paulie Dan,
(28:59):
we're for getting a dunk Reggie Miller versus the Nets,
Kenyon Martin, Jason kiddin next team. And for the record, Paulie,
I do have to say this, that was my last
official in game dunk ever. So that was the last
time I ever dunked in a game, which I wish
(29:20):
I would have saved it for that Detroit series when
Tayson was coming from behind. I had nothing left in
the tank, had nothing left in the tank. You still
think about that, don't you? Yeah, because it was a
gold ten. You can't go there because they didn't call it. Um. Yes,
(29:44):
I do think about it. Theodore, what advice would you give? Okay,
let me let me preface this by saying, you know,
I see John Moran at age twenty two, attacking the rim.
And we've seen players, young players attacking the rim and
then they eventually, you know, develop other skills. You either
get hurt or you change, or you get hurt and change.
(30:06):
You know, Jordan stopped going to the hoop, Iverson started,
stopped attacking, at Derrick Rose stopped attacking. What advice would
you give John Morant a twenty two year old John
Morant right now with his game. I'm not going to
tell him to stop at all. I love his aggressiveness.
I think you wouldn't worry about him getting hurt. He'll
(30:27):
over time, he will figure it out. I think I
guess we could throw Dwayne Wade in there, and well, yeah,
you don't want to take away a player's ability to
think and to react on the fly. Look all the
the guys that you just mentioned Hall of Famers, they
(30:48):
figured it out in time. Now, he missed what like
twenty five games this year, and I think the way
he approaches a game, I'm not going to put a
saddle on a dude where his biggest attribute is being
able to break down the defense. Now, learning how to fall,
(31:11):
knowing how to roll, that will come in time. But
I'm not going to say like, dude, you need to
start working on your jump shot because you're taking too
many hits. No, because what he's doing he gets the
grizzlies in the bonus early. He puts pressure on Biggs.
He gets guys in foul trouble. I am not going
to try to put a saddle on a wild horse.
I'll try to tame him the older he gets. But
(31:32):
you vu jaw it continued to be great. Can you
help me understand what bus rider and bus driver? And
what the hell Charles Barkley and Kevin Durandore arguing about here? Red?
Oh my god, I think it changes every day. Truthfully.
(31:53):
Do you consider is Kevin Durand a bus driver or
a bus rider? Well here's the thing, because it depends
on what wait wait wait, you didn't answer that. Is
he a bus Was he riding the bus or driving
the bus with the Warriors? Well he was a he
(32:13):
was a finals MVP back to back years. Okay, okay,
so to me that's somewhat driving the bus okay. Where
he could have been a rider. Is you joined the
seventy three and nineteen to get those two rings? Yeah,
that's the That's what people on both sides of the
fence will say, if you're Kevin Durant fan, and if
(32:35):
you're not, but I mean, you don't get back to
bout finals MVP in average thirty five points against Lebron
James if you're not a bus driver. Yeah, I thought Charles.
You know, Charles was a bus rider. He I mean
he tried to join Houston with you know those stars
there and he got out of Philly to go to Phoenix.
(32:58):
So I mean there's part of that that if you
want to get real particular, he tried to bus ride
to get a title in Houston. True, but I think
all those guys when he was in Houston were Pastor Prime, Clyde,
Hakim and Charles and Scottie. I mean, these guys were
just trying to get together for one last hurrah. See,
(33:20):
you're a bus driver. You never got on somebody else's bus.
You were always driving the bus in Indiana for nearly
two decades. But maybe I should have been a bus rider,
because that's what it's funny because we knock Kevin Durant
for being a bus rider bus driver, but the media
(33:41):
says a championships championship matters. Championships championships. REGGI didn't win
a championship, but so you know, we were knocking from
being a rider versus a driver. At the end of
the day, media, which one is more important? Important loyalty
or championships or both? Well, give me the team you
almost went to. Was it Boston? You were going to
(34:03):
come back and play for that team that won the title? Yeah,
but that wasn't given. They weren't considered the favorite, but
it was closed. But you wouldn't want Yeah, in hindsight,
But going into that season, did everyone be like, oh,
they're gonna win. It wasn't set that they were going
to win a championship. But if you knew that they
(34:24):
were going to win a championship, would you have come
back and played. I couldn't do it because all the
tears I shed in Indiana with that fan base. We
cried together on all those you know, those hurtful Knicks losses,
Bulls losses, Lakers losses in the finals. It wouldn't be
(34:47):
fair for me to be on a podium or a
stage popping bub because I won my one championship and
in Indiana we as a team that we grew up together.
He had the heartaches together. I can't be sipping champagne
and getting a ring. And I didn't do it for y'all.
That's just my mentality. This is my thinking. That's fair.
(35:10):
I'm not saying it's right because you know, people on
Twitter will go crazy that I didn't win a championship. Okay,
I'm cool with that, but at least I went down
swinging and fighting. Would you join? Would you join another
radio show if you could have a better chance to win?
Don't you think Colin Coward has been calling left it
right for me to join his show? You think you think, uh,
(35:34):
get dayless? No, don't always call me to come on. Absolutely,
you think I'm gonna jump ship to go on one
of those shows when I'm on the premier show of
all times, I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah, but you
know what, we haven't won anything. Reg Pacers where they're
(35:54):
in the same boat. We're gonna when we win on
the first one, it's gonna be like we five together.
We're the Indiana Pacers of sports talk radio. But we're coming.
We're coming for you, pi Will, Yeah, Pornheiser, We're coming
for y'all. Yeah, those punks. Reg Will be on the
(36:16):
call tomorrow night, seven thirty Eastern on TNT. The Pelicans
and the Suns, Thank you, Red, Safe travels, Love you Theodore,
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Yesterday we brought up the six year anniversary of Laramie
Tunsel being drafted by the Miami Dolphins. But the story
was the gas mask that he had and this was
(38:26):
ten minutes before he's going to be drafted. His social
media was hacked and then we saw him with his
gas mask on when he was in college. Well, Laramie
Tunsel just tweeted. For the past six years, I've been
asked about this moment, the gas mask. I have spent
six years trying to do rather than say on the
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(38:47):
spoke with Complex that's a sports website for the first
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I'm officially moving on and putting this moment and in
the past. I'm minting one of one NFT of the
infamous gas mask video to be Lizzie. Yes. Yes. A
(39:12):
portion of the proceeds will benefit Last Prisoner pr which
supports those incarcerated for cannabis offenses. So this is a
NFT of Laramie Tunso with the gas mask. Yes see.
How do we raise the money to buy this? I've
never seen an NFT before that. I was like, Oh,
(39:32):
I think I should buy this one. I want to
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So cannabis whatever, whatever you think whatever was in that mask,
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scratch and sniff Panini, Laramie Tonsol one of one Reefer
smoke him if you got yes? Uh yeah, as Panini.
See what they if they can help us with that.
Alan Iverson is going to join us tomorrow. AI been
a while, It's been probably a decade since we've had
(40:14):
AI on. Jason in Nebraska joins us. Now, Hi, Jason,
what's on your mind? Hey? Danny Dane's love you guys,
Uh poly genius idea. Um, you guys have been bringing
up some great TV series, but I just wanted to
let you know, well, I'm sure you brought it up
actually a couple of days ago, Dan, but better call sauls.
Last season it fire really EXCELLENTE. And then, um, just
(40:39):
you know, Marvin is his unique self. I know he
is on the show, but just wanting to ask you
if he's becoming Nick Love in a little bit. I
noticed the Blue Jay's hat, So just wondering if he's
kind of selling out, you know, kind of like mclove
and would do at times. And I hate to bring
it up. But uh, Dan the mother Ship, they have
(40:59):
it for you again. They did it again. Uh thirty
for thirty Greg Norman's collapse at the Masters. He had
two voiceovers. I bet your hair was killing it those days.
You have one, cameo, oh brother, oh lord, no, it
was terrible. Let's go match all right, thank you Jameson. Yeah,
I had some people did a screenshot of my hair
and the Greg Norman thirty. Oh I I thought it
(41:22):
looked like mid season four. I think that they had
vo's voiceovers of me and they didn't show me on camera.
And you know, Jason thinks that maybe something was nefarious there,
but I was there. I covered that, and uh so,
I guess that's why they included me and at Yample.
If ESPN had thirty for thirty use a picture of
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(41:44):
I would sue consider us. Yeah, I would take it
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(42:28):
Adam McKay come on and just ask him what was
going through his head to come up with this kind
of stuff? Yeah, we could reach out to him. Thank you. Mark.
I just don't like when something's based off of it
because I don't think the audience is educated enough for
the most part to go, oh, that's real or that's
sort of real, or that's not real. I mean, you're
asking a lot of the audience, and that's why I
(42:50):
felt I felt bad for Jerry West. If he was
like this, was he always like this? I mean, that's
the thing. It would just had a problem with it. Todd,
would you learn today? You're already starting the campaign Ben
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