January 29, 2025 • 41 mins
Seton O’Connor checks in from the road as he heads to New Orleans for the Super Bowl. And NBA Commissioner Adam Silver joins the show to talk about the changes they are looking to make in the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's hour two on this Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The NBA Commissioner Adam Silver will stop by in about
twenty minutes from now. We'll hear from Seaton on the
road in North Carolina. Coming up in about five minutes
from now. Gangs here, Minister of Humor, Fritzie Dylan in
Seaton's chair, Marvin is here, Paulie and yours truly in
the back room. Guys, we have a new poll question
for hour two. I'll have that for you. Coming up.
(00:28):
Two of last year's Premier League title contenders go head
to head once again after a draw at the beginning
of the season, a must win for Arsenal and Man City.
Catch the show down at North London Live Sunday at
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(00:50):
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
All right, poll question for hour two is going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
All right, Dan, this is a courtesy of Paul Okay,
NFL career. You'd rather have twelve seasons, six times Pro bowler,
never an All Pro retired by choice, or six seasons,
six times All Pro and retire early due to injury
sort of the Pro Bowl All Pro debate.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, we got to fix the Pro Bowl. I mean
not the festivities. I can't fix that. That's not fixable,
but the designation. We keep saying we have to add
a the scarlet letter Pro Bowl ulternate alternate here, Yes
to it.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
As long as it wasn't a life altering injury. I
think I would take that second one. Six times six
All pros and unfortunately you had a ballot early because
of injury and not because you decided you didn't want
to play anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes, that's the right answer.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah, pull a lot of people I think will lean
towards the longer, very goodish career than the awesome six
year career.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Okay, I want to reveal those players.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I don't have any names, actually, oh you don't, but
like Patrick Willis is a good example. The linebacker I
think he was.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, I thought you were basing this off.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Oh it's not Whose stats would you haunt oh, oh, Okay,
it's more of a hypothetical long really good career or
unbelievable short career.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Okay, would you rather be Frank Gore or Terrell Davis?
Speaker 7 (02:23):
There you go?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
How about that classic? How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Would you rather be Curtis Martin or Terrell Davis or
Gail says. I'm gonna take Trell Davis and Gail says, Now,
Curtis Martin's Hall of Famer. Frank gore'e got fifteen thousand yards,
isn't he? I'm guessing he's going to be a Hall
of Famer. Been a little too long, I think you think. Wow, buddy,
(02:51):
I'm glad he played a little longer for this question.
I mean he's a prime example there of what you
want with Canada a Canada b Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Frank is perfect for this. He made five Pro Bowls,
never went over thirteen hundred yards in any of those season.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And how many yards did he end up in his career?
Fifteen thousand, sixteen thousand on the nose? God, I think
that's third all time.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Is that not third all time?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I think it's second all time.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think sweetness is sixteen seven, twenty six ish and
I never everything.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I like how you act like you're like I think
Walter Payton had sixteen thousand, twenty seven yard.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
There's nothing I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yes, yes, Tom Well compiler instead of pro Did Walter
Payton have that many yarns?
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Dang?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Be easy, he should have had thirty thousand.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
He should for that strike here.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Of course he should.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Touchdown in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yes, oh, oh easy easy. Don't get Paul riled up.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
You make fun of my family.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, but not Walter Peyton, yes, Marton.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
So Frank Gore is the rafaol Paul Marrow of the
NFL without steroids.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And viagra checking No, remember he did the commercial.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yes, if you're gonna accuse me of performance dancing, yeah, sure,
it's in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yes, like if yeah, hey he's on peds he is, Yeah, viagra.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
I've never used steroids.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He knows how to swing up bat Thank you, Todd
too easy writes itself. So you got emmittt at what
eighteen thousand?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, Emmitt Smith is the all time rushing leader at
eighteen three fifty five. Walter sixteen seven twenty six nailed it.
Frank Or at sixteen thousand, Barry Sanders fifteen two fifty ish.
The next closest active player Derrick Henry at eleven five.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, yeah, I Barry Sanders would have been the all
time record holder if he won two. He just was like, Eh,
I don't want to play anymore. Imagine your franchise is
so bad that two first Mallon Hall of Famers decided
not to continue to play. Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders.
(05:09):
Oh look who's there? Oh look at that face?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Seaton encounter.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Don't get too close with the camera there, Yo, seating
on the road. What is the what is the location?
Speaker 10 (05:23):
We're in Greensboro, North Carolina. Right now. I'm with my
guy Phil Collins. Believe it or not, this.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Year Phil Collins is there.
Speaker 11 (05:34):
Yes, in the MAKEO world, Phil Collins is a big deal.
I think he's like the largest owner of Maco's here.
And then there's the other Phil Collins that would be
more familiar with.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
I resisted every urge in my body to make some
type of reference. I was like, I can't, but he's
he's Luckily, he's a big Alabama guy. So we talked
to Alabama Football and Nick saban Nil for a little bit.
No reference is to anything Genesis related.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, the highlight so far has been, let's.
Speaker 11 (06:07):
See, we had a really good dinner last night at
a place called Machete or I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Not really sure which.
Speaker 11 (06:16):
Me and the French kid haven't killed each other just yet,
but that's could be on the way.
Speaker 10 (06:21):
But no, we're doing okay, we're doing okay.
Speaker 11 (06:24):
There's been at almost every place that we've stopped so far,
at a make a location, somebody there is really into drifting,
you know, like cars where they're like sliding around each other.
So that's been pretty cool. That's actually there's like a
huge I don't know, I mean we're at a garage,
so of course people it's positive popular there, but drifting
(06:46):
is a big thing.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And where are we off to today?
Speaker 11 (06:51):
After Greensboro, We're going to Charlotte for a quick stop there.
Speaker 10 (06:55):
Then we're going to Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 11 (07:00):
Uh, and then maybe if we have enough time, onto Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You're still on target for Friday in New Orleans?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, we should make New Orleans on Friday. Yeah,
that's the plan.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
But then we got to stop in Birmingham, Gulf Court
a couple other places.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You're seeing all the make O people, that's it.
Speaker 10 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, they're treating us well. We got coffee and
donuts here.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's pretty sweet, all right, got it made you?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And the French kid does he have his watermelon vape
pen with him on it?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's not. He's not vaping.
Speaker 10 (07:36):
No, he isn't.
Speaker 11 (07:37):
He hasn't been vaping at all this time. It's been
this trip, I could say, for a lot of different
eason that.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Has been much different than the previous two. No vaping, no, yeah,
it's not his best behavior.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And no no accidents yet.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
No, no, the ban is in exactly the same shape
as when we left.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Good. Well, good to see you. We'll I'll chat with
you tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (08:01):
Yeah, all right, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's seat O'Connor on the road courtesy of Mako the
great folks. There are new partner on the road to
New Orleans in time for the Super Bowl. A couple
of phone calls in here. The Saints are still looking
for a coach. It looks like that's going to be
Kellen Moore. When other names have taken their name out
of the hopper. That usually means that they're being told
(08:24):
they're not going to be the next head coach. Does
Mike McCarthy get in the media for a year. I
don't know how he'd be on TV. He doesn't strike
me as you know, charismatic. I mean, he's not Rex Ryan,
But I don't know. If you get him in a
lab and let him, you know, dissect things, and maybe
(08:45):
he could be you know, he could have a coming
out party.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
We were like, man, where's this been? Yes, Paulin, you
know what the interesting thing or challenging thing or Mike
McCarthy would be. We and other people would want to
ask him questions about dealing with everything that is the
Cowboys coach. And if you remember when Jason Garrett started
doing this, he was hesitant to give you details about
Jerry Jones because he wanted another job and you got
(09:09):
to keep things in house if you're a possible NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Coach, Well, he would say, oh, you always asked me
these questions. I'm like, yes, that's my job, yes, Marvin, But.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Could you imagine Mike McCarthy doing ex's and O's plays
and Cowboys fans going where was this when you were
the Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yes, DoD can you throw me in the Bothberg Cardinals
Titans game just to give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And No, I don't think I want him calling a game.
I think he would have to be set up in
a studio where you're going to him for something really specific.
Maybe we could have Mike Gun Maybe I could ask
him if he wants to join us towards the draft
or by the way, the Senior Bowl. They're doing measurables
(09:50):
at the Senior Bowl. It's the Senior Bowl. The combine
before the combine? Is it pre combine? All measurements the
I'd have taken away the thunder from the combine, Jalen Milrow.
Small hands, Marvin, you should have broke that story.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I thought we were over this.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Never are you in a small hands support groups when.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It cuts of coffee in the waiting room?
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Just yeah, I need to be around here, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
I can't believe one day, at six thirty in the morning,
measuring hands turned into this.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I know, I didn't know what was going on when
Ray said, oh, we got to measure everybody's hands, and
then all of a sudden, the big reveal and seatan goes,
I know I have the smallest hands, and when we
read the results in it was like the smallest hands Marvin. Oh,
greatest day aside from Seaton's son being born and getting
(10:58):
married was that day.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Yes, we need a poll question because I'm not sure
if that's the right answer. His hands being bigger than
mine might be up there.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's it might be bigger than when he got married. Yes,
it might be. It might be second on that list.
I've never seen a smile like that. It's like, yes,
I don't have the smallest hands. Jason Utah, Hi, Jas,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (11:25):
I like Roger in Iowa. I'm perfectly healthy and watching
on Peacock. Shout out to your streaming partner. I did
fall in love with this show home down with nothing
better to do, but wanted to give an honest to
God compliment. You all are crushing it today. Even when
I can't catch the show live, I'll watch on Peacock
later and as a newer listener, I love the archives.
(11:48):
So thanks for entertaining the nation and with tender love
and care. So I'll get fritzy, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's Jason Utah y. Yes, by the way, people are
wondering about my sweatshirt hoodie. This is a gift from
Adam Sandler that I got yesterday. So it's a Happy
Gilmore sweatshirt, but it's a double X. And Sandman likes
to wear things baggy but I don't. But Sandman's weight
(12:18):
fluctuates a little bit. I'm being kind here, but yeah,
this is I mean, this body, I mean it's meant
to be seen with this.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
It's just baggy. You're swimming in that thing.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, it's like putting baggy clothes on Emily Ratakowski or
whatever her name is RATATOUI.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
That's a good comp you came up with there on
the flock.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Thank you to thank you? Uh Ryan in North Carolina?
Hi Ryan.
Speaker 12 (12:46):
Who wants Dan Patrick to retire in three years?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
No lot oh, I was gonna say everybody.
Speaker 12 (12:55):
I wanted to just thank you guys for the last
two years. You've really helped me through a tough time
in my life. This show has been an awesome, healthy
distraction for me and I love every minute of it
and it's just been great. I wanted to give y'all
a recommendation for sushi in New Orleans. My cousin and
(13:15):
a guy I grew up with the New Orleans owns
and runs a sushi restaurant called Rock and Sake. And
if you get me some heads up, I'm sure he
would put together an anti mayonnaise pesto sushi roll for you.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (13:31):
I'm a fellow mayonnaise hater. He knows that, and so
I've been there a bunch of times and he always
flips up something without vaoli and no mayonnaise and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, well, I'll have Tyler take your phone number there. Right, Maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm taking the Dan nuts out on Sunday. I'm still
looking for a restaurant on Sunday. This is the big
get together before we start our Super Bowl week, and
we're going out early, five o'clock dinner, just letting you know,
the cool kids go to the five o'clock Yeah, five
o'clock dinner. That's when we start. Yes, Paul, we.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Are trying to find a restaurant. There was a big
meeting with the big German and I yesterday about this.
It's hard to get a table for twelve. I know
we can get six and six, but then who's at
the big kids table? Who's at the you know.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think that we would just draw names out of
a hat.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would say, all right, here's six at this table,
here's six at this table.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
As long as Fritzie's not at my table, I'm good.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Sounds delicious.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh my god, I can't be next to you when
you're eating. I can't.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
I've been practicing trying to eat with my mouth clothes.
It's very difficult. Yes, Marmon, is Dylan with us Sunday Night?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Dylan?
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Yeah, okay, what do you mean? Oh? This is the
the entire team.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well b rg's as well.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Oh yeah, I wasn't sure if it was just Danette's.
I was going to ask if I made the cut
after one week for.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Dinner, how about you stay for appetizers.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Wow, that's perfect. I'm kind of an apps guy anyways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Uh, looks like you don't miss too many of them.
I hit them all, you do? Yeah, everybody, everybody who's
there in New Orleans working on the show, we're going
to go out to dinner together. We just need to
find a place that will seat twelve at five o'clock.
Five o'clock shouldn't be the hard thing, but to get
I don't want a table of twelve, just two tables
(15:24):
of six.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Be the early bird special crowd.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yes, and we're gonna get there when they open. But
there's so many restaurants there, it's hard to find a
restaurant that's not good in New Orleans. All right, Well,
take a break. We'll get some more phone calls coming up,
and let's see we'll update the poll results. The Commissioner
of the NBA is going to join us and that
(15:47):
will take place next.
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Speaker 2 (16:57):
He's the commissioner of the NBA for the last eleven years.
Adam Silver joining us on the program, High Commissioner, How
are you?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I'm good, Dan? I need some more stuff on my desk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What happened?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
It's clean? I like all the stuff you got there, though.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, you got some poll with teams. Why don't you
just have a little choons keys Garre. You get bobblehead
dolls up there?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
I've got him. I just I put paper on my desk.
We have a different jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What is the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I have one of shacks shoes. It looks like a
snow boot and you could use it as a planner.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, I have one too, his rebox shoe.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah, it wasn't it was the brand that he created.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Oukay.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I think it was like dunk Man. I think was
the brand. Okay, And it's enormous. It looks it doesn't
look real.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, he only gave me one. I don't know why
he only gives out one shoe.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
It gave me the other. I only have one. You
have the left right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think I have the left one, but I.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Got the right. He split the pair between us.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I got Tim duncan shoes from when they won the
NBA title against the Knicks, and he said, I'll give
you my shoes if you tell me who's the number
one sports century athlete. They just win the NBA championship.
He comes in, I'm doing Sports Center. He's got his
shoes and he writes to DP Tim Duncan and then
(18:30):
he said, right, who's number one on the list and
I I nobody knew because we had that countdown. I
said it's Jordan And he said, all right, here's your shoes.
So I got Tim Duncan's shoes after the NBA Finals.
Did you get any Jordan stuff when you were with
the you know, commissioner Stern?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
No, I mean only because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
I mean, I guess I was around a lot of
Jordan stuff, but I wasn't a collector. I don't think
will be appropriate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, when you weren't the commissioner, you could have said, hey,
be nice to get a pair of Mike's shoes.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah. I bought a lot of Jordan shoes over the years.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, well I I talked to who is it? Tim?
Who's the Tim the Tim? No? No, Tim? Who was
the bulls PR guy Tim? Tim Hallum?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah? Tim.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
He would get Jordan's shoes.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
After every NBA Finals, every title he Mike would take
off the shoes and autograph them and hand them to
them after everyone. I don't know if he sold those things,
but those things got to be worth because their championship
warn NBA shoes by Mike, they got to be worth
a whole lot of money.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
And I think about the business Mike created as a
division of Nike, the Jordan brand. I mean it's you know,
it's a multi billion dollar business at this point. I mean,
how many think about how many athletes have retained Yeah,
a kind of notoriety, you know this many decades post
playing career, and it's I mean, he's an amazing guy obviously,
(20:11):
and he's still a small owner in the league and Charlotte,
but I might, you know, I post his playing career.
I mean I knew him a bit over the years,
but you know, post playing career, we got to be
really close and he was obviously one of my bosses
for the first several years I was the commissioner and
still amazing person.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Give me the list here, like, what's top on your
list here of what needs to be addressed with the NBA.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
I think top on my list is the transition we're
going through in media now. I mean, we locked in
our new media deals for essentially the next decade, staying
with Disney, ABC and ESPN, moving to Comcast Universal Peacock
in addition to being on NBC and now Amazon. But
(21:02):
I think more interesting in a way is not just
moving from one partner to another, but the shift in
live sports to streaming. And I think where as most
fancy it now and maybe even a little bit of
a pain that they got to switch off their box
or whatever else and then find the app or however
(21:23):
they have to do it. From a programming standpoint, it's
still they're finding what, in essence looks like the same game.
It's just streamed as other than being on broadcaster conventional cable.
What's really fascinating to me is all the functionality that
sort of Internet TV will allow through streaming, all the personalization,
the customization that will come, all the new types of
(21:48):
information you can prevent present to fans as they're watching games,
you know, all that optionality I think. I mean, you know,
when we first met, I was at NBA Entertainment and
sort of began my career on the production side, and
I think it's at this moment we can redefine how
we present the game to fans and also make it
(22:10):
a lot more convenient. I mean, in our new deals,
every game will be streamed, and we have a very
young audience. You know, they're watching more screen time than
ever before, but not traditional television. And I think our
ability to bring those games directly to them and in
ways they want to consume them. I'll add to that
as well. I think using social media to engage fans,
(22:35):
I mean, not just to interest them. I mean, like example,
talked about recently, Victor Wembinyama was in New York on
Christmas Day and then was around for two more days
because then he played in Brooklyn two days later, and
he's a chess player and he went to Washington Square Park.
I'm sure you saw that clip. Something like one hundred
million people you know a week saw video of him
(22:57):
playing chess in Washington Square Park. And our viewership, which
is fine, pales though in comparison to the social media
following of these players and the league, that number, you know,
on a global basis is over two billion. And I
think sort of my job is to get more basketball
(23:18):
lovers to watch the NBA and watch it longer. And
I think there's an opportunity to use social media to
create more engagement, and not just to show how multifaceted
Wemby is and he loves to play chess, but to
teach people about the game, to celebrate the game, to
demonstrate why I know you you're a college basketball player,
(23:38):
I know you love the game, like why this is
such an incredible game, and help people better understand what
they're watching, understand the finer points of the game and
fair to be critical of it at times too, and
you know, should there be less three point shooting, et cetera.
I mean that's something we're very focused on. But when
I day in and day out, you know, and I
(23:58):
have all the very streaming service is and have all
different programming available to me, I don't think it's an
accident that people are increasingly gravitating towards premium live sports,
not just basketball, but obviously football, hockey, baseball, et cetera. WNBA. Now,
I think because people crave something that's live, something that's
(24:20):
you know, unscripted, something that can be entertaining as well,
and I think the basketball in the NBA can be
all those things. But we also our job has become
that much harder because we're competing against so many different
forms of entertainment. It's podcasts and social media and unlimited
numbers of channels and programming, and so we have to
up our game too to make sure that we're finding
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ways to engage viewers and again to teach people about
the game. And that's been one of my frustrations. I
think that I don't blame the broadcasters, and it's hard.
You've broadcast a lot of basketball that the game's moving
so quickly. You don't have the space that you might
have in football or in baseball to be talking more
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about what's unfolding before you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But what bothers you more the ratings or the coverage
of the ratings.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
The ratings are fine. I mean we're we're roughly even
with last season for the regular season, which was the
highest ratings for a regular season in four years. There
is I get it. There was a narrative early in
the season we were down a bit. I you know,
it's you've been covering the league for a long time.
I mean, it seems that there's always a narrative around
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our sport. You know, too physical, too much isolation, scoring,
too low, you know, super teams, player empowerment. I mean
I could go on and on. And then the narrative
early in the season became the ratings are down because
of three point shooting. I think those are two independent issues.
The ratings are now about even with last year. And
(25:54):
as I said, you know, if you look more broadly
at other measures of game, our attendance last season was
the highest in the history of the league. I mean,
you can't look at social media over too long a
spectrum because it didn't exist. But if you but when
you add in social media, the game has never been
more popular in terms of the engagement. So do I
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get frustrated about around the narrative around ratings, Yes, especially
when because of the decline in traditional television, decline in
cable homes, everyone's down a bit, so you know, Plus
we entered into our new deals for the next decade,
so I feel good about that. But I think those
narratives become a reality to the extent, especially even when
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we're doing well. It's still only a significant a relatively
small percentage of the population that's watching live games, so
there's a lot of people out there who may not
be fans of the NBA and become consumed with that story.
And again, NBA seems to take a disproportionate amount of
that discussion. I think maybe because we're so relevant from
(27:04):
a societal standpoint, Our players have been outspoken, There's been
a history of activism certain cases in this league. For
whatever those reasons, I think, at the end of the day,
my job is to find more people who are inclined
to want to watch live sports, to want to watch basketball,
and convert them into NBA fans, right, let me want
(27:25):
to lose sight of that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Let me do rapid fire, because there's a few topics here.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The NIL ruling has made college basketball more of an
attractive path for athletes in recent years. I don't know
if that changes allowing players out of high school that
you will revisit that. But what is is the NC
DOUBLEA a friend or a foe to the NBA.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
NCUBLEA is a great friend. In fact, Charlie Baker, who's
the former governor of Massachusetts, I've gotten to know well
over the last couple of years, we're talking about more
that we can do to get I mean, you remember,
in the not so old days, if we touched a amateur,
you know, high school player, we could cause them to
(28:09):
lose their eligibility. Now, of course, you know, through collectives
and NIL they're paid. And what we've been talking the
NC DOUBLEA about is we should jointly get more involved
in youth basketball, particularly the training of elite players. The
vast majority of them we'll never make it to the NBA,
but we'll play in college, and so we have a
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joint interest not in developing elite players and then for
the broader base of players. We have a joint interest
in for young boys and of course young girls, getting
them to be more active. You know, basketball is a
great sport to do that, getting them again to love
the game. Charlie Baker himself was a college player, so
we're working together. I think on the specifically nil and collectives.
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I think there's work to be done in college basketball
because just like in the NBA, where over successive collective
bargaining agreements we've helped to level the playing field in
terms of competition. We've had six different teams win championships
over the last six years. At the end of the day,
we're selling competition, and I think college has to work
through some issues where now as players in essence through
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the portal can become essentially free agents every year. You
know that there's no really real salary structure, so you
have a lot of real, you know, out of whack
balance in terms of team's ability to compete. And I
think for fans of the college game, and I'm one
of them, at the end of the day, you want
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to see great competition in Division one.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Will you revisit like the G League. You've got players
who are just going to the G League. If you
allow them to come out of high school to the NBA,
they wouldn't be going to the G League, I would imagine, right.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Well, yes, but in fact, you know, back before those
court rulings which allowed the collectives in NIL, at the
urging of Condallisa Rice who oversaw a commission with the
NCAA and President Obama to a certain extent, we were
asked to create a professional track because the view was
(30:14):
it was unfair to so called force these young men
to go to college for a year before they came
into the NBA. So we weren't ready to return to
eighteen as the mini mage in the NBA. We stayed
at nineteen. But through the G League we created something
called Team McKnight, where we were paying players several hundred
thousand dollars a year in a pro track and then
(30:35):
come into the NBA. That seems like a pittance now
based on what players are able to earn in Division
one through these college programs, And frankly, I think the
track through these great college programs is better than what
we were offering them in the G League because they
have first class training facilities, some of the greatest coaches
(30:58):
out there, planes et cetera. That didn't make sense in
our economic model and still doesn't for the G League.
So I'm perfectly fine with them going to college. And
by the way, you know, what you've also seen with
nil and collective money is there's a big pool of
international players who would have stayed largely in Europe and
played but are now coming to play Division one basketball
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because it's a better economic situation for them and ultimately
a bet probably better development too, if their goal is
to get into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Give me the wildest thing that you guys have considered.
I'm sure there's always you know, we're going to try this.
You know, the NFL doing the kickoff the way they did.
It's pretty crazy that that's what it looks like. Give
me a this has been discussed.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I mean one that's only been discussed a little. I
wouldn't put it necessarily in the category of being so wild.
Is potentially two free throws for a foul and a
three point shot. That's I don't necessarily think I would
do it in the last two minutes of the game,
But I think that's something interesting, something else that I'm
a fan of, and I'm probably in a minority as
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we get more involved in global basketball. The NBA is
the only league that plays forty eight minutes, and I
would be I am a fan of four ten minute quarters.
I'm not sure that many others are. I mean, putting
inside what it means for records and things like that,
I think that a two hour format for a game
(32:29):
is more consistent sort of modern television habits. I don't
think people in arenas aren't asking us to shorten the game,
but I think as a television program being two hours,
that's Olympic basketball as being is two hours, you know,
college basketball courses.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But if you like it, I'd say it has kind
of a little bit of a push there.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game.
I mean, I think something like that would have to
be talked more about over time.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I mean, incidentally dramatic commissioner.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
Yeah, No, I I I'm a fan of what baseball did.
I'm a baseball fan, and I think some of those
changes have really increased sort of the engagement, the entertainment
value of the game, and so I'm paying a lot
of attention to that. And in fact, I've used the
you know, the pitch clock, the sort of the increasing
the size of the base et cetera. In meetings at
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the NBA to say, you know, if baseball, which is
more locked into tradition, and I don't I don't mean
that negatively than any other sport. And part of what
baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're
able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid
to look at changes as well. So, you know, I
also think though we have made a series of changes
(33:41):
over the years, they haven't been as dramatic in many cases.
You know, we've we've changed the format in the last
two minutes of the games so we wouldn't have as
many stoppages. We have a coaches challenge now, you know
we did. We had the hack a shack issue. We
changed the rule there. I mean, there's there's this. We
added the Cup, you know, which we now have. We
have a play in tournament. I mean, so we've made
(34:02):
significant changes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I have an idea before I let you go, how
about we take away the three point line during the
in season tournament.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Interesting, I mean, it's it's like the issue there.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Interesting.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
I'm not like I like the three point shot. I
mean let me take a step back. I mean, if
you think from when you first started covering the NBA
to the skill level of big men now, I mean,
look at Victor Webben Yama, look at Jannis, you know,
look look at Yo Kisch. Look what these guys can do.
You know, it was it was like the fact that
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they are so skillful that they can shoot from these
kinds of distances, shoot in the way guards used to
be able to, Like, like, is there too much three
point shooting in certain situations? Maybe? But I also don't
want to overreact to what we're seeing the game, because
the game goes through transitions. I think the game is
incredible right now. They I think some of the criticism
(35:02):
is a bit unfair, and that goes back to my
earlier point that I think the league needs to do
a better job teaching about the game so that there's
real appreciation for what people are seeing out there. And again,
like you know, ratings are fine, we have enormous global interest.
People like what they're seeing right now on the floor.
So I don't necessarily buy into the premise that it
(35:23):
would be a better game if you if you eliminated
three point shooting.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
How about we make the floor like a pinball machine
where the three point line lights up, and when it
lights up, then you know you're able to take threes
like you could. You could really dress up the floor.
You guys did a pretty good job at the end season,
But why don't we make it pinball like I don't.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Know if you remember, but last year at All Star
on All Star Saturday Night, we had literally a lit court. Yeah,
And we've played with things like that. I mean, like
I have one foot in sort of the traditionalist camp,
you know, and I really do care about the game,
and I think it's so special that I think when
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you moved to that place that where it seems to gimmicky,
and I don't think, and I think what baseball did?
They found right down the middle path where they preserved
what's so great about that game, but found some ways
to speed it up. I think have been very effective.
So we're open here. We talk a lot about potential
change of the game. I just add back to some
(36:29):
notion of a forty point of a forty minute game.
I mean, because this game is so global. One of
the things we'd like to see over time is creating
a more consistent set of rules globally around the game,
like you know again the Olympic basketball. I'm sure you
watched you know on NBC and Peacock the US, Serbia,
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US France. Those people are basketball fans. Some are saying
those are two of the best games they ever saw. Concidentally,
if you went to a forty minute game with the
issues around load management and resting, it would be the
equivalent of I don't know the exact math, taking like
fifteen games off this season. I like that so and
I don't think most fans would be disappointed if it
(37:11):
was a two hour presentation instead of a you know,
our game is actually about two hours and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, you're going to find out the reaction the rest
of the day as this gets posted that you're considering
ten minute quarters.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I gotta go, well, I didn't fully say you asked
me for some ideas.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I till that quite at that level.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I'm not saying there's a vote this week, Commissioner. I'm
just saying social media will look at this and go, hey,
that sounds great. Now we got guys playing more. Maybe
the games are more intense and it's forty minute games,
and it's great for TV, great for everybody for another day,
for another day.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I have to go.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Muriels in Jackson Square in New Orleans. Okay, Murials, I'm
not sure. In all due respect to your caller, I
would go to I'd go to New Orleans for sushi.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Can I drop your name at Muriels.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
I'm not sure it'll be helpful, but absolutely.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Do you have an open tab at that restaurant?
Speaker 7 (38:17):
I will if you go?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Okay, awesome. Uh, but I'm not going alone. I'm bringing
my my, my whole team here. Yes, as they're going.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
With longtime listener.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Day great, great to catch up with you again. Thank you, Commissioner.
Ye bye bye, that's Commissioner Adam Silver. Well.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
We'll take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I let the interview get away from me with the Commissioner.
I let him talk a little too much. It happened,
so damn. I just don't I don't like cutting people off.
But I'm trying to go to a variety of topics,
and it took a while because look, he's coming on
he wants to he wants to promote something.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's there's a quid pro quo and I'm going to
rough myself up over this interview, but I thought we
got something at the very end with imagine if you
did ten minute quarters forty minute games, not forty eight,
and if you're going to be reducing the amount of games,
like you take all those minutes, he said, you know
it's like fifteen games. Now you're still going to play
(39:27):
all the games. Maybe you'll get players to play maybe
a more intense game. And I don't know if there's
any downside because if you're going to make it a
two hour window that you're going to have a game
and you're going to do ten minute quarters so it's
forty minutes, you're still getting the number of games eighty
two games in there. You know, unless there's commercial inventory
(39:53):
that you're going to lose a lot of revenue there.
I could see, because that's the European model. It's you know,
ten minute quarter, it's forty minutes. I don't know if
we would complain. I don't know if we would really
notice it. Yes, Marvin, do you think.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
The players would object because of maybe points and rebounds,
just stats in general.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, I don't know if that's attached to incentives, but
I don't think there's no stats that we care about.
I mean, what stat in the NBA? Do you care
about triple doubles? Maybe averaging thirty or I don't know, yeah, Marv.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Yeah, just from a historical perspective, like, oh, you only
average twenty six points a game instead of thirty two
points a game. Oh well, there was only forty minute
you know, games when I was playing, as opposed to
four minute.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
How many times do we bring up the number of
games that were in an NFL season?
Speaker 7 (40:45):
You know? O J.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Simpson still this single season rushing leader. He did his
in fourteen games, but nobody brings that up. I don't
think we care about stats anymore because we've been fooled
by stats, certain with baseball. I just don't think it's
that important basketball. What stat do you really care about?
Speaker 9 (41:05):
I just met for the players when it's a contract
negotiating time, or just from a historical perspective.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't worry about
that if I'm the NBA. But you know, if you're
going to have stats, do you have incentive causes bonuses
in your contract? Then I can understand where that would
be an issue. All right, two hours in the books,
one more ago, Fritzy Dylan, Marvin Paula, Yours truly,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's hour two on this Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The NBA Commissioner Adam Silver will stop by in about
twenty minutes from now. We'll hear from Seaton on the
road in North Carolina. Coming up in about five minutes
from now. Gangs here, Minister of Humor, Fritzie Dylan in
Seaton's chair, Marvin is here, Paulie and yours truly in
the back room. Guys, we have a new poll question
for hour two. I'll have that for you. Coming up.
(00:28):
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to head once again after a draw at the beginning
of the season, a must win for Arsenal and Man City.
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
All right, poll question for hour two is going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
All right, Dan, this is a courtesy of Paul Okay,
NFL career. You'd rather have twelve seasons, six times Pro bowler,
never an All Pro retired by choice, or six seasons,
six times All Pro and retire early due to injury
sort of the Pro Bowl All Pro debate.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, we got to fix the Pro Bowl. I mean
not the festivities. I can't fix that. That's not fixable,
but the designation. We keep saying we have to add
a the scarlet letter Pro Bowl ulternate alternate here, Yes
to it.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
As long as it wasn't a life altering injury. I
think I would take that second one. Six times six
All pros and unfortunately you had a ballot early because
of injury and not because you decided you didn't want
to play anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes, that's the right answer.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah, pull a lot of people I think will lean
towards the longer, very goodish career than the awesome six
year career.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Okay, I want to reveal those players.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I don't have any names, actually, oh you don't, but
like Patrick Willis is a good example. The linebacker I
think he was.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, I thought you were basing this off.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Oh it's not Whose stats would you haunt oh, oh, Okay,
it's more of a hypothetical long really good career or
unbelievable short career.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Okay, would you rather be Frank Gore or Terrell Davis?
Speaker 7 (02:23):
There you go?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
How about that classic? How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Would you rather be Curtis Martin or Terrell Davis or
Gail says. I'm gonna take Trell Davis and Gail says, Now,
Curtis Martin's Hall of Famer. Frank gore'e got fifteen thousand yards,
isn't he? I'm guessing he's going to be a Hall
of Famer. Been a little too long, I think you think. Wow, buddy,
(02:51):
I'm glad he played a little longer for this question.
I mean he's a prime example there of what you
want with Canada a Canada b Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Frank is perfect for this. He made five Pro Bowls,
never went over thirteen hundred yards in any of those season.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And how many yards did he end up in his career?
Fifteen thousand, sixteen thousand on the nose? God, I think
that's third all time.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Is that not third all time?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I think it's second all time.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think sweetness is sixteen seven, twenty six ish and
I never everything.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I like how you act like you're like I think
Walter Payton had sixteen thousand, twenty seven yard.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
There's nothing I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yes, yes, Tom Well compiler instead of pro Did Walter
Payton have that many yarns?
Speaker 7 (03:39):
Dang?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Be easy, he should have had thirty thousand.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
He should for that strike here.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Of course he should.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Touchdown in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yes, oh, oh easy easy. Don't get Paul riled up.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
You make fun of my family.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, but not Walter Peyton, yes, Marton.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
So Frank Gore is the rafaol Paul Marrow of the
NFL without steroids.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And viagra checking No, remember he did the commercial.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yes, if you're gonna accuse me of performance dancing, yeah, sure,
it's in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yes, like if yeah, hey he's on peds he is, Yeah, viagra.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
I've never used steroids.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He knows how to swing up bat Thank you, Todd
too easy writes itself. So you got emmittt at what
eighteen thousand?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, Emmitt Smith is the all time rushing leader at
eighteen three fifty five. Walter sixteen seven twenty six nailed it.
Frank Or at sixteen thousand, Barry Sanders fifteen two fifty ish.
The next closest active player Derrick Henry at eleven five.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, yeah, I Barry Sanders would have been the all
time record holder if he won two. He just was like, Eh,
I don't want to play anymore. Imagine your franchise is
so bad that two first Mallon Hall of Famers decided
not to continue to play. Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders.
(05:09):
Oh look who's there? Oh look at that face?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Seaton encounter.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Don't get too close with the camera there, Yo, seating
on the road. What is the what is the location?
Speaker 10 (05:23):
We're in Greensboro, North Carolina. Right now. I'm with my
guy Phil Collins. Believe it or not, this.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Year Phil Collins is there.
Speaker 11 (05:34):
Yes, in the MAKEO world, Phil Collins is a big deal.
I think he's like the largest owner of Maco's here.
And then there's the other Phil Collins that would be
more familiar with.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
I resisted every urge in my body to make some
type of reference. I was like, I can't, but he's
he's Luckily, he's a big Alabama guy. So we talked
to Alabama Football and Nick saban Nil for a little bit.
No reference is to anything Genesis related.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, the highlight so far has been, let's.
Speaker 11 (06:07):
See, we had a really good dinner last night at
a place called Machete or I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Not really sure which.
Speaker 11 (06:16):
Me and the French kid haven't killed each other just yet,
but that's could be on the way.
Speaker 10 (06:21):
But no, we're doing okay, we're doing okay.
Speaker 11 (06:24):
There's been at almost every place that we've stopped so far,
at a make a location, somebody there is really into drifting,
you know, like cars where they're like sliding around each other.
So that's been pretty cool. That's actually there's like a
huge I don't know, I mean we're at a garage,
so of course people it's positive popular there, but drifting
(06:46):
is a big thing.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And where are we off to today?
Speaker 11 (06:51):
After Greensboro, We're going to Charlotte for a quick stop there.
Speaker 10 (06:55):
Then we're going to Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 11 (07:00):
Uh, and then maybe if we have enough time, onto Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You're still on target for Friday in New Orleans?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, we should make New Orleans on Friday. Yeah,
that's the plan.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
But then we got to stop in Birmingham, Gulf Court
a couple other places.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You're seeing all the make O people, that's it.
Speaker 10 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, they're treating us well. We got coffee and
donuts here.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's pretty sweet, all right, got it made you?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And the French kid does he have his watermelon vape
pen with him on it?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's not. He's not vaping.
Speaker 10 (07:36):
No, he isn't.
Speaker 11 (07:37):
He hasn't been vaping at all this time. It's been
this trip, I could say, for a lot of different
eason that.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Has been much different than the previous two. No vaping, no, yeah,
it's not his best behavior.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And no no accidents yet.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
No, no, the ban is in exactly the same shape
as when we left.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Good. Well, good to see you. We'll I'll chat with
you tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (08:01):
Yeah, all right, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's seat O'Connor on the road courtesy of Mako the
great folks. There are new partner on the road to
New Orleans in time for the Super Bowl. A couple
of phone calls in here. The Saints are still looking
for a coach. It looks like that's going to be
Kellen Moore. When other names have taken their name out
of the hopper. That usually means that they're being told
(08:24):
they're not going to be the next head coach. Does
Mike McCarthy get in the media for a year. I
don't know how he'd be on TV. He doesn't strike
me as you know, charismatic. I mean, he's not Rex Ryan,
But I don't know. If you get him in a
lab and let him, you know, dissect things, and maybe
(08:45):
he could be you know, he could have a coming
out party.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
We were like, man, where's this been? Yes, Paulin, you
know what the interesting thing or challenging thing or Mike
McCarthy would be. We and other people would want to
ask him questions about dealing with everything that is the
Cowboys coach. And if you remember when Jason Garrett started
doing this, he was hesitant to give you details about
Jerry Jones because he wanted another job and you got
(09:09):
to keep things in house if you're a possible NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Coach, Well, he would say, oh, you always asked me
these questions. I'm like, yes, that's my job, yes, Marvin, But.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Could you imagine Mike McCarthy doing ex's and O's plays
and Cowboys fans going where was this when you were
the Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yes, DoD can you throw me in the Bothberg Cardinals
Titans game just to give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And No, I don't think I want him calling a game.
I think he would have to be set up in
a studio where you're going to him for something really specific.
Maybe we could have Mike Gun Maybe I could ask
him if he wants to join us towards the draft
or by the way, the Senior Bowl. They're doing measurables
(09:50):
at the Senior Bowl. It's the Senior Bowl. The combine
before the combine? Is it pre combine? All measurements the
I'd have taken away the thunder from the combine, Jalen Milrow.
Small hands, Marvin, you should have broke that story.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I thought we were over this.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Never are you in a small hands support groups when.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It cuts of coffee in the waiting room?
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Just yeah, I need to be around here, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
I can't believe one day, at six thirty in the morning,
measuring hands turned into this.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I know, I didn't know what was going on when
Ray said, oh, we got to measure everybody's hands, and
then all of a sudden, the big reveal and seatan goes,
I know I have the smallest hands, and when we
read the results in it was like the smallest hands Marvin. Oh,
greatest day aside from Seaton's son being born and getting
(10:58):
married was that day.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Yes, we need a poll question because I'm not sure
if that's the right answer. His hands being bigger than
mine might be up there.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's it might be bigger than when he got married. Yes,
it might be. It might be second on that list.
I've never seen a smile like that. It's like, yes,
I don't have the smallest hands. Jason Utah, Hi, Jas,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (11:25):
I like Roger in Iowa. I'm perfectly healthy and watching
on Peacock. Shout out to your streaming partner. I did
fall in love with this show home down with nothing
better to do, but wanted to give an honest to
God compliment. You all are crushing it today. Even when
I can't catch the show live, I'll watch on Peacock
later and as a newer listener, I love the archives.
(11:48):
So thanks for entertaining the nation and with tender love
and care. So I'll get fritzy, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's Jason Utah y. Yes, by the way, people are
wondering about my sweatshirt hoodie. This is a gift from
Adam Sandler that I got yesterday. So it's a Happy
Gilmore sweatshirt, but it's a double X. And Sandman likes
to wear things baggy but I don't. But Sandman's weight
(12:18):
fluctuates a little bit. I'm being kind here, but yeah,
this is I mean, this body, I mean it's meant
to be seen with this.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
It's just baggy. You're swimming in that thing.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, it's like putting baggy clothes on Emily Ratakowski or
whatever her name is RATATOUI.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
That's a good comp you came up with there on
the flock.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Thank you to thank you? Uh Ryan in North Carolina?
Hi Ryan.
Speaker 12 (12:46):
Who wants Dan Patrick to retire in three years?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
No lot oh, I was gonna say everybody.
Speaker 12 (12:55):
I wanted to just thank you guys for the last
two years. You've really helped me through a tough time
in my life. This show has been an awesome, healthy
distraction for me and I love every minute of it
and it's just been great. I wanted to give y'all
a recommendation for sushi in New Orleans. My cousin and
(13:15):
a guy I grew up with the New Orleans owns
and runs a sushi restaurant called Rock and Sake. And
if you get me some heads up, I'm sure he
would put together an anti mayonnaise pesto sushi roll for you.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (13:31):
I'm a fellow mayonnaise hater. He knows that, and so
I've been there a bunch of times and he always
flips up something without vaoli and no mayonnaise and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, well, I'll have Tyler take your phone number there. Right, Maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm taking the Dan nuts out on Sunday. I'm still
looking for a restaurant on Sunday. This is the big
get together before we start our Super Bowl week, and
we're going out early, five o'clock dinner, just letting you know,
the cool kids go to the five o'clock Yeah, five
o'clock dinner. That's when we start. Yes, Paul, we.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Are trying to find a restaurant. There was a big
meeting with the big German and I yesterday about this.
It's hard to get a table for twelve. I know
we can get six and six, but then who's at
the big kids table? Who's at the you know.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think that we would just draw names out of
a hat.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would say, all right, here's six at this table,
here's six at this table.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
As long as Fritzie's not at my table, I'm good.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Sounds delicious.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh my god, I can't be next to you when
you're eating. I can't.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
I've been practicing trying to eat with my mouth clothes.
It's very difficult. Yes, Marmon, is Dylan with us Sunday Night?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Dylan?
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Yeah, okay, what do you mean? Oh? This is the
the entire team.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well b rg's as well.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Oh yeah, I wasn't sure if it was just Danette's.
I was going to ask if I made the cut
after one week for.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Dinner, how about you stay for appetizers.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Wow, that's perfect. I'm kind of an apps guy anyways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Uh, looks like you don't miss too many of them.
I hit them all, you do? Yeah, everybody, everybody who's
there in New Orleans working on the show, we're going
to go out to dinner together. We just need to
find a place that will seat twelve at five o'clock.
Five o'clock shouldn't be the hard thing, but to get
I don't want a table of twelve, just two tables
(15:24):
of six.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Be the early bird special crowd.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yes, and we're gonna get there when they open. But
there's so many restaurants there, it's hard to find a
restaurant that's not good in New Orleans. All right, Well,
take a break. We'll get some more phone calls coming up,
and let's see we'll update the poll results. The Commissioner
of the NBA is going to join us and that
(15:47):
will take place next.
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Speaker 2 (16:57):
He's the commissioner of the NBA for the last eleven years.
Adam Silver joining us on the program, High Commissioner, How
are you?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I'm good, Dan? I need some more stuff on my desk.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What happened?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
It's clean? I like all the stuff you got there, though.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, you got some poll with teams. Why don't you
just have a little choons keys Garre. You get bobblehead
dolls up there?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
I've got him. I just I put paper on my desk.
We have a different jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
What is the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I have one of shacks shoes. It looks like a
snow boot and you could use it as a planner.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, I have one too, his rebox shoe.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yeah, it wasn't it was the brand that he created.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Oukay.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I think it was like dunk Man. I think was
the brand. Okay, And it's enormous. It looks it doesn't
look real.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, he only gave me one. I don't know why
he only gives out one shoe.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
It gave me the other. I only have one. You
have the left right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think I have the left one, but I.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Got the right. He split the pair between us.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I got Tim duncan shoes from when they won the
NBA title against the Knicks, and he said, I'll give
you my shoes if you tell me who's the number
one sports century athlete. They just win the NBA championship.
He comes in, I'm doing Sports Center. He's got his
shoes and he writes to DP Tim Duncan and then
(18:30):
he said, right, who's number one on the list and
I I nobody knew because we had that countdown. I
said it's Jordan And he said, all right, here's your shoes.
So I got Tim Duncan's shoes after the NBA Finals.
Did you get any Jordan stuff when you were with
the you know, commissioner Stern?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
No, I mean only because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
I mean, I guess I was around a lot of
Jordan stuff, but I wasn't a collector. I don't think
will be appropriate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, when you weren't the commissioner, you could have said, hey,
be nice to get a pair of Mike's shoes.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah. I bought a lot of Jordan shoes over the years.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, well I I talked to who is it? Tim?
Who's the Tim the Tim? No? No, Tim? Who was
the bulls PR guy Tim? Tim Hallum?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah? Tim.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
He would get Jordan's shoes.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
After every NBA Finals, every title he Mike would take
off the shoes and autograph them and hand them to
them after everyone. I don't know if he sold those things,
but those things got to be worth because their championship
warn NBA shoes by Mike, they got to be worth
a whole lot of money.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
And I think about the business Mike created as a
division of Nike, the Jordan brand. I mean it's you know,
it's a multi billion dollar business at this point. I mean,
how many think about how many athletes have retained Yeah,
a kind of notoriety, you know this many decades post
playing career, and it's I mean, he's an amazing guy obviously,
(20:11):
and he's still a small owner in the league and Charlotte,
but I might, you know, I post his playing career.
I mean I knew him a bit over the years,
but you know, post playing career, we got to be
really close and he was obviously one of my bosses
for the first several years I was the commissioner and
still amazing person.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Give me the list here, like, what's top on your
list here of what needs to be addressed with the NBA.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
I think top on my list is the transition we're
going through in media now. I mean, we locked in
our new media deals for essentially the next decade, staying
with Disney, ABC and ESPN, moving to Comcast Universal Peacock
in addition to being on NBC and now Amazon. But
(21:02):
I think more interesting in a way is not just
moving from one partner to another, but the shift in
live sports to streaming. And I think where as most
fancy it now and maybe even a little bit of
a pain that they got to switch off their box
or whatever else and then find the app or however
(21:23):
they have to do it. From a programming standpoint, it's
still they're finding what, in essence looks like the same game.
It's just streamed as other than being on broadcaster conventional cable.
What's really fascinating to me is all the functionality that
sort of Internet TV will allow through streaming, all the personalization,
the customization that will come, all the new types of
(21:48):
information you can prevent present to fans as they're watching games,
you know, all that optionality I think. I mean, you know,
when we first met, I was at NBA Entertainment and
sort of began my career on the production side, and
I think it's at this moment we can redefine how
we present the game to fans and also make it
(22:10):
a lot more convenient. I mean, in our new deals,
every game will be streamed, and we have a very
young audience. You know, they're watching more screen time than
ever before, but not traditional television. And I think our
ability to bring those games directly to them and in
ways they want to consume them. I'll add to that
as well. I think using social media to engage fans,
(22:35):
I mean, not just to interest them. I mean, like example,
talked about recently, Victor Wembinyama was in New York on
Christmas Day and then was around for two more days
because then he played in Brooklyn two days later, and
he's a chess player and he went to Washington Square Park.
I'm sure you saw that clip. Something like one hundred
million people you know a week saw video of him
(22:57):
playing chess in Washington Square Park. And our viewership, which
is fine, pales though in comparison to the social media
following of these players and the league, that number, you know,
on a global basis is over two billion. And I
think sort of my job is to get more basketball
(23:18):
lovers to watch the NBA and watch it longer. And
I think there's an opportunity to use social media to
create more engagement, and not just to show how multifaceted
Wemby is and he loves to play chess, but to
teach people about the game, to celebrate the game, to
demonstrate why I know you you're a college basketball player,
(23:38):
I know you love the game, like why this is
such an incredible game, and help people better understand what
they're watching, understand the finer points of the game and
fair to be critical of it at times too, and
you know, should there be less three point shooting, et cetera.
I mean that's something we're very focused on. But when
I day in and day out, you know, and I
(23:58):
have all the very streaming service is and have all
different programming available to me, I don't think it's an
accident that people are increasingly gravitating towards premium live sports,
not just basketball, but obviously football, hockey, baseball, et cetera. WNBA. Now,
I think because people crave something that's live, something that's
(24:20):
you know, unscripted, something that can be entertaining as well,
and I think the basketball in the NBA can be
all those things. But we also our job has become
that much harder because we're competing against so many different
forms of entertainment. It's podcasts and social media and unlimited
numbers of channels and programming, and so we have to
up our game too to make sure that we're finding
(24:42):
ways to engage viewers and again to teach people about
the game. And that's been one of my frustrations. I
think that I don't blame the broadcasters, and it's hard.
You've broadcast a lot of basketball that the game's moving
so quickly. You don't have the space that you might
have in football or in baseball to be talking more
(25:05):
about what's unfolding before you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But what bothers you more the ratings or the coverage
of the ratings.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
The ratings are fine. I mean we're we're roughly even
with last season for the regular season, which was the
highest ratings for a regular season in four years. There
is I get it. There was a narrative early in
the season we were down a bit. I you know,
it's you've been covering the league for a long time.
I mean, it seems that there's always a narrative around
(25:34):
our sport. You know, too physical, too much isolation, scoring,
too low, you know, super teams, player empowerment. I mean
I could go on and on. And then the narrative
early in the season became the ratings are down because
of three point shooting. I think those are two independent issues.
The ratings are now about even with last year. And
(25:54):
as I said, you know, if you look more broadly
at other measures of game, our attendance last season was
the highest in the history of the league. I mean,
you can't look at social media over too long a
spectrum because it didn't exist. But if you but when
you add in social media, the game has never been
more popular in terms of the engagement. So do I
(26:15):
get frustrated about around the narrative around ratings, Yes, especially
when because of the decline in traditional television, decline in
cable homes, everyone's down a bit, so you know, Plus
we entered into our new deals for the next decade,
so I feel good about that. But I think those
narratives become a reality to the extent, especially even when
(26:38):
we're doing well. It's still only a significant a relatively
small percentage of the population that's watching live games, so
there's a lot of people out there who may not
be fans of the NBA and become consumed with that story.
And again, NBA seems to take a disproportionate amount of
that discussion. I think maybe because we're so relevant from
(27:04):
a societal standpoint, Our players have been outspoken, There's been
a history of activism certain cases in this league. For
whatever those reasons, I think, at the end of the day,
my job is to find more people who are inclined
to want to watch live sports, to want to watch basketball,
and convert them into NBA fans, right, let me want
(27:25):
to lose sight of that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Let me do rapid fire, because there's a few topics here.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The NIL ruling has made college basketball more of an
attractive path for athletes in recent years. I don't know
if that changes allowing players out of high school that
you will revisit that. But what is is the NC
DOUBLEA a friend or a foe to the NBA.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
NCUBLEA is a great friend. In fact, Charlie Baker, who's
the former governor of Massachusetts, I've gotten to know well
over the last couple of years, we're talking about more
that we can do to get I mean, you remember,
in the not so old days, if we touched a amateur,
you know, high school player, we could cause them to
(28:09):
lose their eligibility. Now, of course, you know, through collectives
and NIL they're paid. And what we've been talking the
NC DOUBLEA about is we should jointly get more involved
in youth basketball, particularly the training of elite players. The
vast majority of them we'll never make it to the NBA,
but we'll play in college, and so we have a
(28:30):
joint interest not in developing elite players and then for
the broader base of players. We have a joint interest
in for young boys and of course young girls, getting
them to be more active. You know, basketball is a
great sport to do that, getting them again to love
the game. Charlie Baker himself was a college player, so
we're working together. I think on the specifically nil and collectives.
(28:54):
I think there's work to be done in college basketball
because just like in the NBA, where over successive collective
bargaining agreements we've helped to level the playing field in
terms of competition. We've had six different teams win championships
over the last six years. At the end of the day,
we're selling competition, and I think college has to work
through some issues where now as players in essence through
(29:16):
the portal can become essentially free agents every year. You
know that there's no really real salary structure, so you
have a lot of real, you know, out of whack
balance in terms of team's ability to compete. And I
think for fans of the college game, and I'm one
of them, at the end of the day, you want
(29:38):
to see great competition in Division one.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Will you revisit like the G League. You've got players
who are just going to the G League. If you
allow them to come out of high school to the NBA,
they wouldn't be going to the G League, I would imagine, right.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Well, yes, but in fact, you know, back before those
court rulings which allowed the collectives in NIL, at the
urging of Condallisa Rice who oversaw a commission with the
NCAA and President Obama to a certain extent, we were
asked to create a professional track because the view was
(30:14):
it was unfair to so called force these young men
to go to college for a year before they came
into the NBA. So we weren't ready to return to
eighteen as the mini mage in the NBA. We stayed
at nineteen. But through the G League we created something
called Team McKnight, where we were paying players several hundred
thousand dollars a year in a pro track and then
(30:35):
come into the NBA. That seems like a pittance now
based on what players are able to earn in Division
one through these college programs, And frankly, I think the
track through these great college programs is better than what
we were offering them in the G League because they
have first class training facilities, some of the greatest coaches
(30:58):
out there, planes et cetera. That didn't make sense in
our economic model and still doesn't for the G League.
So I'm perfectly fine with them going to college. And
by the way, you know, what you've also seen with
nil and collective money is there's a big pool of
international players who would have stayed largely in Europe and
played but are now coming to play Division one basketball
(31:22):
because it's a better economic situation for them and ultimately
a bet probably better development too, if their goal is
to get into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Give me the wildest thing that you guys have considered.
I'm sure there's always you know, we're going to try this.
You know, the NFL doing the kickoff the way they did.
It's pretty crazy that that's what it looks like. Give
me a this has been discussed.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I mean one that's only been discussed a little. I
wouldn't put it necessarily in the category of being so wild.
Is potentially two free throws for a foul and a
three point shot. That's I don't necessarily think I would
do it in the last two minutes of the game,
But I think that's something interesting, something else that I'm
a fan of, and I'm probably in a minority as
(32:08):
we get more involved in global basketball. The NBA is
the only league that plays forty eight minutes, and I
would be I am a fan of four ten minute quarters.
I'm not sure that many others are. I mean, putting
inside what it means for records and things like that,
I think that a two hour format for a game
(32:29):
is more consistent sort of modern television habits. I don't
think people in arenas aren't asking us to shorten the game,
but I think as a television program being two hours,
that's Olympic basketball as being is two hours, you know,
college basketball courses.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But if you like it, I'd say it has kind
of a little bit of a push there.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game.
I mean, I think something like that would have to
be talked more about over time.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I mean, incidentally dramatic commissioner.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
Yeah, No, I I I'm a fan of what baseball did.
I'm a baseball fan, and I think some of those
changes have really increased sort of the engagement, the entertainment
value of the game, and so I'm paying a lot
of attention to that. And in fact, I've used the
you know, the pitch clock, the sort of the increasing
the size of the base et cetera. In meetings at
(33:20):
the NBA to say, you know, if baseball, which is
more locked into tradition, and I don't I don't mean
that negatively than any other sport. And part of what
baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're
able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid
to look at changes as well. So, you know, I
also think though we have made a series of changes
(33:41):
over the years, they haven't been as dramatic in many cases.
You know, we've we've changed the format in the last
two minutes of the games so we wouldn't have as
many stoppages. We have a coaches challenge now, you know
we did. We had the hack a shack issue. We
changed the rule there. I mean, there's there's this. We
added the Cup, you know, which we now have. We
have a play in tournament. I mean, so we've made
(34:02):
significant changes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I have an idea before I let you go, how
about we take away the three point line during the
in season tournament.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Interesting, I mean, it's it's like the issue there.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Interesting.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
I'm not like I like the three point shot. I
mean let me take a step back. I mean, if
you think from when you first started covering the NBA
to the skill level of big men now, I mean,
look at Victor Webben Yama, look at Jannis, you know,
look look at Yo Kisch. Look what these guys can do.
You know, it was it was like the fact that
(34:41):
they are so skillful that they can shoot from these
kinds of distances, shoot in the way guards used to
be able to, Like, like, is there too much three
point shooting in certain situations? Maybe? But I also don't
want to overreact to what we're seeing the game, because
the game goes through transitions. I think the game is
incredible right now. They I think some of the criticism
(35:02):
is a bit unfair, and that goes back to my
earlier point that I think the league needs to do
a better job teaching about the game so that there's
real appreciation for what people are seeing out there. And again,
like you know, ratings are fine, we have enormous global interest.
People like what they're seeing right now on the floor.
So I don't necessarily buy into the premise that it
(35:23):
would be a better game if you if you eliminated
three point shooting.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
How about we make the floor like a pinball machine
where the three point line lights up, and when it
lights up, then you know you're able to take threes
like you could. You could really dress up the floor.
You guys did a pretty good job at the end season,
But why don't we make it pinball like I don't.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Know if you remember, but last year at All Star
on All Star Saturday Night, we had literally a lit court. Yeah,
And we've played with things like that. I mean, like
I have one foot in sort of the traditionalist camp,
you know, and I really do care about the game,
and I think it's so special that I think when
(36:06):
you moved to that place that where it seems to gimmicky,
and I don't think, and I think what baseball did?
They found right down the middle path where they preserved
what's so great about that game, but found some ways
to speed it up. I think have been very effective.
So we're open here. We talk a lot about potential
change of the game. I just add back to some
(36:29):
notion of a forty point of a forty minute game.
I mean, because this game is so global. One of
the things we'd like to see over time is creating
a more consistent set of rules globally around the game,
like you know again the Olympic basketball. I'm sure you
watched you know on NBC and Peacock the US, Serbia,
(36:50):
US France. Those people are basketball fans. Some are saying
those are two of the best games they ever saw. Concidentally,
if you went to a forty minute game with the
issues around load management and resting, it would be the
equivalent of I don't know the exact math, taking like
fifteen games off this season. I like that so and
I don't think most fans would be disappointed if it
(37:11):
was a two hour presentation instead of a you know,
our game is actually about two hours and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, you're going to find out the reaction the rest
of the day as this gets posted that you're considering
ten minute quarters.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I gotta go, well, I didn't fully say you asked
me for some ideas.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I till that quite at that level.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I'm not saying there's a vote this week, Commissioner. I'm
just saying social media will look at this and go, hey,
that sounds great. Now we got guys playing more. Maybe
the games are more intense and it's forty minute games,
and it's great for TV, great for everybody for another day,
for another day.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I have to go.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Muriels in Jackson Square in New Orleans. Okay, Murials, I'm
not sure. In all due respect to your caller, I
would go to I'd go to New Orleans for sushi.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Can I drop your name at Muriels.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
I'm not sure it'll be helpful, but absolutely.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Do you have an open tab at that restaurant?
Speaker 7 (38:17):
I will if you go?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Okay, awesome. Uh, but I'm not going alone. I'm bringing
my my, my whole team here. Yes, as they're going.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
With longtime listener.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Day great, great to catch up with you again. Thank you, Commissioner.
Ye bye bye, that's Commissioner Adam Silver. Well.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
We'll take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I let the interview get away from me with the Commissioner.
I let him talk a little too much. It happened,
so damn. I just don't I don't like cutting people off.
But I'm trying to go to a variety of topics,
and it took a while because look, he's coming on
he wants to he wants to promote something.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's there's a quid pro quo and I'm going to
rough myself up over this interview, but I thought we
got something at the very end with imagine if you
did ten minute quarters forty minute games, not forty eight,
and if you're going to be reducing the amount of games,
like you take all those minutes, he said, you know
it's like fifteen games. Now you're still going to play
(39:27):
all the games. Maybe you'll get players to play maybe
a more intense game. And I don't know if there's
any downside because if you're going to make it a
two hour window that you're going to have a game
and you're going to do ten minute quarters so it's
forty minutes, you're still getting the number of games eighty
two games in there. You know, unless there's commercial inventory
(39:53):
that you're going to lose a lot of revenue there.
I could see, because that's the European model. It's you know,
ten minute quarter, it's forty minutes. I don't know if
we would complain. I don't know if we would really
notice it. Yes, Marvin, do you think.
Speaker 9 (40:08):
The players would object because of maybe points and rebounds,
just stats in general.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, I don't know if that's attached to incentives, but
I don't think there's no stats that we care about.
I mean, what stat in the NBA? Do you care
about triple doubles? Maybe averaging thirty or I don't know, yeah, Marv.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Yeah, just from a historical perspective, like, oh, you only
average twenty six points a game instead of thirty two
points a game. Oh well, there was only forty minute
you know, games when I was playing, as opposed to
four minute.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
How many times do we bring up the number of
games that were in an NFL season?
Speaker 7 (40:45):
You know? O J.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Simpson still this single season rushing leader. He did his
in fourteen games, but nobody brings that up. I don't
think we care about stats anymore because we've been fooled
by stats, certain with baseball. I just don't think it's
that important basketball. What stat do you really care about?
Speaker 9 (41:05):
I just met for the players when it's a contract
negotiating time, or just from a historical perspective.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't worry about
that if I'm the NBA. But you know, if you're
going to have stats, do you have incentive causes bonuses
in your contract? Then I can understand where that would
be an issue. All right, two hours in the books,
one more ago, Fritzy Dylan, Marvin Paula, Yours truly,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
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