December 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes play “In or Out” on big topics in the world of sports. And Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young joins the show and discusses Kirk Cousins' benching.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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forty nine ers Hall of Fame quarterback, will stop by
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symptoms from the NBA Cup and I hope you'll survive.
Bucks beat the Thunder ninety seven to eighty one. Football
(00:27):
coming up later on tonight, The Falcons at bench Kirk Cousins,
Michael Pennix Junior the third we'll get this start poll
question for the final hour. The program is going to
be watched Seaton.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
How are you handling your withdrawal from getting getting JK JK.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Let me get you some results real quick. Falcons decision
to bench Kirk Cousins is smart or desperate?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That has still fifty one to forty nine. Okay, that's
interesting to me. And the most awkward quarterback situation Falcons.
Brown's vikings forty one is Falcons getting running away with
that one almost half of the vote just because of
the news recently.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah. Yeah, if Kirk Cousins was starting this weekend against
the Giants, then those results would be different.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It might be too, just the amount of money wrapped
up in it. Yeah, you know that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I mean, the Jets situation's awkward because if I'm taking
over the job, I don't want Aaron Rodgers because he's
probably going to be in there for one year and
it's become his franchise. I got to take that away
from him, and I would want to be able to
start fresh. And there's a lot of rumors that go
on now because we have three more regular season games
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and everybody who's out of the playoff race, they're kind
of lining up.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They want to make sure in the game of.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Musical chairs, there's a chair for you to sit on
when it comes to getting a head coach. Mike Brabel's name,
Ben Johnson's name, those are two names will be at
the forefront here. Brabel, I'm surprised that he was out
of a job for a year. I think he's a
great coach, and he's a culture coach. He creates the culture.
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And this is something I talked about a couple of
days ago and That is how many guys can come
in and change the culture. Not I'm an offensive minded
or defensive minded guy. Like I don't know if Dan
Quinn changed the culture with the Commanders. I think Jayden
Daniels changed the culture. I think New Ownership changed the culture.
I don't think it was Dan Quinn. His coaching stuff. Now,
(02:26):
Dan Campbell changed the culture with the Lions. That's what
you're looking for. Can you get somebody in here who's
going to change the culture of the Bears because it
just feels like they can't get out of their own way.
You need somebody who sets the example. Maybe you get
the front office out of the way or ownership out
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of the way, and you're able to establish Like Mike
Ditka did in Chicago, he created a culture. Buddy Ryan
with him created a culture. Buddy Ryan with the Eagles
created a culture. Jimmy Johnson and created a culture. It's
not boy that guy's a defensive minded genius or an
offensive minded genius. It's you get in there and you
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must change that feeling that you have. And there's not
a lot of coaches. Jim Harbaugh is a culture changer.
Did that at Michigan, did it in San Francisco. He's
doing it with the Chargers as well, and Mike Brabel
to me is one of those culture changers. Eight seven
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All right, some phone calls in here and oh, you
know what, let's play in or out. Paulie, give us
the topics of you're either in or out.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Here's the following statement, in or out. Kirk Cousins will
get the reins of one more franchise next season.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Todd in Seaton, I'm in on it happening, not in
on the no that it should. Okay, Marvin in in.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
If the Jets move on from Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers
will get the reins of one more franchise next year.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Todd in, Seaton out, marv out out.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Wow, the trend of hiring former star football players at
smaller colleges Deon Sanders, Michael Vick is just getting started.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Todd in Seaton in, Marvin in, Eddie, George in.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, this one's a big one. The NBA's rating situation
is not really fixable.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Todd out, Seaton out, Marvin out. This commissioner's too smart out.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
This is a ten year build up to this. I
don't know how the commissioner goes to the players union
says force your players to play eighty games. I don't
know if that's possible to do.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's not because I don't know what you know any
of these in Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is it his k Me?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Like, I don't even know anymore, And it doesn't matter
to me. Not if you're part of the Clipper fan base,
you're like, I hope he plays. I like in the
NBA to this, Let's say you have a restaurant and
it's a good restaurant. You just never know when it's open.
You don't know what days that are they're open or closed,
(06:25):
You don't know the hours that they're open.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But it's a really good restaurant. That's the NBA.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You got a lot of good content, interesting players. I
just don't know who's playing and who's not playing. But
am I going to drive there if they're going to
be closed? Hey it's a Tuesday. Wait you close on
a Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
When did that happen?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
We just started. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And that's the problem with the NBA, Like the NFL,
situation comes down to keeping your quarterbacks healthy. If you
keep your quarterbacks healthy, they had over sixty different quarterbacks
last year. I don't think the ratings suffered, but they
want to ensure that you still have star power there
as often as possible.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You got that schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You want to make sure that those guys are going
to be playing in these games.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I feel like the a bigger problem than load management
and the style of the game that's played is the
number of fouls called. Okay, I feel like there's a
foul every thirteen seconds, and it's impossible to get a
feel and flow for the game when every little tiki
(07:38):
tac foul is being called. Let them play a little bit.
I get that there's a foul and there's not, but
there's other times that it's like, who can even tell
where the contact was anymore? And you're already blowing It's
like a preemptive foul call, a preemptive whistle. That to
me is a much bigger problem because I can look
at the game and be like, oh, Dann Lebron's not playing,
but the game is already happening.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You get into the game.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Todd, would you check? I don't know if the NBA
would have these numbers, they should. Is there a the
number of like how often is a foul called in
the NBA? And how has that changed over the last
that's say, two decades?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know, hey, back in two thousand and two, it
was called, you know, once every nine seconds, and then
it's once every fourteen second. So it's whatever it is.
I'm going to guess they keep that data. I'd be
curious about that. Yes, yeah, Paul, I have it.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's fouls called per decade, like each decade foules called
per game in the NBA. In the eighties, per game,
twenty four point nine files called, in the nineties, twenty
two point seven, in the two thousands, twenty two, even
twenty tens, twenty point three fouls called per game, and
in the past four years, including this year, nineteen point
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six sous.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right, so word less, like I said, due to
the three, well obviously going down.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So I actually don't.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I think Seaton's point is wrong because if you look
at the amount of drives to the basket in threes,
I'll bet you the well, it seems like there's fewer calls.
There's so much less contact, So that means they're still
calling TICKI tag stuff now when twenty years ago that
wouldn't have been called. So I think Seaton is right
with what he's saying.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Well, they're not calling more foul, not more, but more
light fouls. There's no stat for that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, is that a light foul? Used to be there
was a playoff foul. I always love that, you know
the fact the Kurt Ramba is Kevin McHale play. Hey,
that's just playoff basketball. It's not a flagrant. You're not
throwing anybody out. That's playoff foul. I like you had
that designation. You can get away with anything. Hey, you're
(09:46):
gonna throw it. No, it's a play it's a playoff ful.
Oh okay, that's right.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
See maybe it is a combination of that, like come down,
miss a three, go to the other way, miss a three,
come down, miss a three, go back the other way,
drive to the hoop.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Falcoll one more in or out?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yes, Okay, in or out. I want lots of snow
at college football playoff games this weekend. Home games are
at Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame High Snow possibilities.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, the Clemson game will probably not be snow less likely, Yeah,
probably not. Do I want snow? Todd, you went around
in Seaton, Sure, Marvin, I guess I'm out.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm out. I like the visual.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I want to make sure that you still get quality football,
not some cold weather. I'm in on that, uh, Stringer
in Arizona joints us Hey Stringer, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Heydnn second time long time six ' two and a
semisoft two fifteen. Hey, I was watching you guys on
Peacock and I saw when you were using that ball
cannon and the backdrop for you shooting it, everybody is
Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. And did I have this
(11:12):
epiphany that that looks you could recreate that with some
old school uniforms with Fritzy and Marvin and that would
be awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So Marvin would be Babe Ruth and Fritzy would be
Jackie Robinson. Are you guys, Are you guys willing to
play the roles of Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth Todd?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Of course, Marvin, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We just got to get the old Brooklyn Dodger uniform
and all of the matchups in the fieldhouse. All of
that art is by an artist named rc arc Y,
and I wanted matchups that never happen. You have Shack
against Wilt, Caitlin Clark against Steph Curry. You have Lebron
and Michael Jordan, Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. So I thought,
(11:59):
you Knowlawrence Taylor rushing Tom Brady as Tom Brady throws
a pass and it's Dwight Clark when Dwight had the
catch for the forty nine ers. So just trying to
create matchups that never happened in real life. Johnny and Pittsburgh,
Hi Johnny, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Dan Dannetz, Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays? Six ' four a offski,
two fifty five a ski ski.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
So I want to comment real quick on Michael Pennick Junior,
but real quick when we were listening to Chuck talk
about the Jason Kelsey's show. I don't know if he'd
ever do it, but could you imagine if he was
a sidekick or vice versa on the talk show Chuck
and Jason Kelsey that that could be a good recipe.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Just a thought there.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
As far as Panix, I'm was seting on the polar results.
I don't understand this why it's so polarizing risk reward, Like,
do you remember how criticized that pick was when they
did it? No one understood it right, And it makes
so much sense though, when you really think about it,
(13:09):
I love Pennis. I mean, people forget that this now
Indiana team. He was there three years. The guy's high character,
huge arm. He's out as actor as Jade Daniels, but
that Heisman class he came in second. Jane Daniels, Bo Nicks,
Marvin Harrison Junior, stiple risk reward. I think the kid's
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a baller, and I think they got a good one
on their hands and simple risk reward. I want seven
and seven. Why not give them a go?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I'm I understand it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They may luck into a great situation, Johnny, but this
is still the same organization that gave ninety million dollars
to Kirk Cousins. So I can, on one hand say, man,
you guys are brilliant. It's like the Niners with Trey Lance.
Like I can't say, man, they found rock perty yes,
and you also drafted Trey Lance. You know they may
(14:01):
luck into this in Atlanta, and I'm all in on
the risk and the reward. I think the team needs
some juice. I think they need something here because we
keep saying the same things. Man, they got a lot
of skilled position players. Okay, let's see what Michael Pennix
Junior will do with those skilled position players. Steve Young
will join us. What does he think of this move
(14:23):
by the Falcons? He'll tell you next after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
Always a treat to have Steve Young on the show.
The Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl Champ. Were
you ever benched? Like in getting you know, Kirk Cousins
getting benched?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Now? Do you know what that feeling's like?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I benched? I don't know why. It doesn't really, it
doesn't ring a bell, Dan. I might I might have
blocked it out.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
I threw six interceptions as a tenth grader in JV
and the coach said that after the game, He's like,
you guys are the worst athletes in the world. And
who's he? I mean, who's he really saying that too?
So I was like, I think that was that was
my biggest benching. I don't know if I I don't
even know if I got benched after that. I should
have been, uh. I th I threw five interceptions at
Georgia when I my first game at by U and
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la Belle Edwards at halftimes like, you'll be okay, you'll
be I'm like, no, I know, I'm gonna be fine.
I'll be great. He goes, No, you got really now
you know? Now you may me mad. Now you got
you got problems. You got to fix it fast. And
uh but I didn't get benched there either, So maybe
I should have been benched a number of times, Dan,
but somehow escaped the benching.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What was your best game in high school?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Best game in high school? I don't know. I mean
I I used to I didn't know how to throw
the ball. I didn't I just ran around. So uh
we were running the wishbone and uh, I mean I
I remember the triple option. You know, you make the
first spake and everyone's like, pitch it and I'd keep it,
you know. I was like, what do get patch it?
(17:01):
Like I asked, But it's the second option. Well, you know,
don't worry about it. But I don't know. There's some
there's some games running all over the place that were fun.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
But but you went to a passing school.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I had this crazy dream, Dan, that I was going
to play in the NFL and that I and if
I was going to play in the NFL, I had
to go put it somewhere where I throw the football.
And even though I didn't know how to throw it correctly.
I remember my recruiting trip. I went to Army up
to West Point for a recruiting trip and they played
Pitt and my my senior year in high school, Dan
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Reno was the rookie, you know, the first freshman quarterback.
I remember staying on the sidelines and Dan Reno threw
like a thirty yard bullet out right in front of
me like like that. I was like, oh, yeah, I
got some distancan cover here, because that whatever that is,
it's not what I'm doing right now. As a senior
in high school, man, I got some. And that's why
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so ironic. We went into a pro football hall theme together,
and I remember thinking back full circle man. From standing
on the sidelines at West.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Point, I think Marino like he was ahead of the
curve in what he was doing.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Oh Dan, remember he'd hold it right here and just show.
And I spent the next four years of my life
I spent throwing the football from right here.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
My arm hurt.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I couldn't throw any street but I was gonna be
Dan Marino man, and there's only one guy that could
throw it like that. Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Your thoughts on benching Kirk Cousins for Michael Pennock junior.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, they've been they've been a little bit unconventional since
they've drafted Michael, so everyone didn't expect it. But in
many ways, uh uh, you know, there's such a desire
to get young, mobile quarterbacks in the end. Kirk can't
get those yards that are out there in the game today.
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Remember when they changed the rules and they made defenders
they couldn't launch their bodies anymore. They essentially made the
game the field biggers like a Canadian field. Now, if
you think about it that way, the field just got
that much bigger in the NFL. And with that space,
it's that's why all these cool plays and all this innovation,
all this fun stuff. It's great. And so if you're
a quarterback that can't go get those yards, especially in
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the big games. And I'm talking about leaving the pocket
with your legs, calling plays out of the huddle like
the Bills do, and you know Josh Allen walks into
the end zone. How how hard is it to throw
to score in the in the NFL, in the red zone,
and the Bills just make it simple because he has
this ability now to use his legs, to use his mobility,
and if Kirk doesn't have that. Now, Michael's not the
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most you know, look, he's not the most mobile guy,
but at least he can go get those yards. That
might be what they're thinking too.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Awkward quarterback situations. Vikings with Sam Darnold a good awkward.
The Jets situation of what do you do do you
want Rogers back? And if you're a new coach coming
in the Falcons is kind of awkward. If Pennix plays well,
do you do with Kirk? If he doesn't play well,
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it's awkward? Then I offer this one up. Let me
start with this the Niners quarterbacking situation with rock Party
coming Doe. Is that an awkward quarterback situation decision?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Well? Uh, you know, I mean it really comes down
to how you see the game today and what I
just describe to you in the difference between Kirk, Cousins
and and and somebody that can move around and take
the take the yards. Do you if you don't have
that ability to extend and to push, you know, kind
of from your your athletic ability just to push defenses backwards,
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you're gonna need more help. That's why Jared Goff last week,
remember he ray scrambled once and everyone's like, oh my gosh,
it's like Josh Allen, you know, but so he can't
do it. It's not his game. So he needs actually
in the game today because what he's described to you,
you need more room and so you need more help.
And so when Josh gets it. Let me say it
this way. If you have a series, a ten play series,
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they score a touchdown in those ten plays. If it's
Jared Goff, you're gonna have ten plays where you have
to call out of the huddle generally and have it
work all the way down the field. So that's hard
to do. It's retail football. It's hard to do. If
you can do it, and you can get really good
at it, but it's just it's got a degree of difficulty.
Where Josh Allen on the same side of the other
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side of the ball, he'll have a ten play drive
and he'll score, but three of the plays were off
script and we're easy yards and you don't have to
it doesn't have to be efficient doesn't have to be perfect,
doesn't have to be timed up, and so all of
a sudden, it's seventy percent of the time you got
to play great football or or tactical or efficient football,
and the Lions have to do one hundred percent. So
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you go back to brock perty He's got he's he's
gonna have to he needs out of the huddle. That's
his superpower call play run it and uh and then
matriculate down the field and throw it into the end
zone and h or run it in the end zone.
So in many ways in the game, you would say, look,
I need I want to make sure that I have
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plenty of help for brock Purty, plenty of help for
Jared Goff, plenty of help for Kirk Cousins, and I
need money to do that. And so that's where the
maybe the awkwardness that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Would do you want to spend sixty fifty five sixty million.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You're gonna spend if Look, I think that Dak Prescott
the Cowboys are going to suffer for a long time
because they paid him a number that now in many
ways takes from the ability to build teams to go
help you for the very thing that you need. And
so that's the that's the dilemma, because I mean, we
love everyone loves Brock and loves his game and loves
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his efficiency and his leadership and everything else, but we
got to make sure we have the money to put
the people with him to to go win it. Because
if the goal is super Bowls, if the goal is
winning some rank and file regular season games, maybe get
to the playoffs, that's a different goal and that might
mean different. But if you're talking about we want to
go to the super Bowl, we need people to be
(22:58):
there to help Brock. And if you don't, and so
that it becomes just how much is there available? And
is a zero sum game in some ways with a
salary cap. And I think, I mean, I look at
how Tom Brady thought about it, Look at how Patrick
Mahomes thinks about it. Right he says, hey, look, I'm cool,
you get you know, I got my money, but I
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wanted to have plenty of money. And how many times
did Tom every year say, look, I'm gonna recon restructure
my I want plenty of money to get people that
can come help me win super Bowls. And so I
just with that mentality. He could all get worked out.
If everybody says, oh no, I want every last dollar
and I have to and I have to set the market,
that's going to be a complicated. There's the awkwardness that
(23:41):
you just talked about.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We'll go back to Dallas. Jerry Jones. You know, everybody
lodgs him as a great businessman. He has to know
what he's doing to the franchise by giving Dak Prescott
those numbers.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, and come on, man, for thirty years, I mean
he has not empowered anyone to walk in the locker
room and firebody. And so without that power, the court,
a coach in the NFL is neutered. And and you
think about why the Cowboys never reached their potential for
thirty years now, why because they not empowered. So don't
tell me now that Jerry made a mistake by paying
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back then like like he got You could see that
he waited and waited and got desperate. Right at the end.
It's like, okay, let's capitulate this even starting pay them. Well, okay,
but now what have we done. We've again, we've you know,
over we've over corrected for something that we should have
kind of held the line on and so to me
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holding accountability in the Cowboys system. Remember, I've always said
ever there's America's team account. There's something about the team
that they show up and they're famous. And I've said
before you should take the stars off the helmet. And
you have to win ten games to get one star,
and you have to win a playoff game to get
the other star. And now you're now you've earned it yourself.
(24:56):
You're not You're not special. You're not you know and
I don't. There's something really missing with the Cowboys, and
it's been missing for a long time. Number One, get
a coach that can walk into the locker room and
fire somebody without asking. Jerry, that's got to happen yesterday.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
You have two MVPs regular season? Yes, okay, where are they?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Do you get to go? Do you get a thing?
What do you mean you get? I mean, yeah, I
got it. I don't know they're around, I don't know.
They're not the house my kids. I refuse to burden
my kids with you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Wait, you know, so if I walk in your house,
I wouldn't know what you did for a living.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
No, no, you would not know.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wait, you should have a statue in front of your house, all.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Right, I should have a you know what, everyone everyone
rubs it on the way in and then uh and
then uh bowls on the way out. That's how it
should work. That's the way to you know.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Wait, okay, do I have to Carson Palmer's heisman is
in the garage?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yeah? So mine? So you asked my absolutely the MVP trophies.
I'm sure one might be at bou and another one
might be uh over at work or something like that.
I mean, it's kind of like like there's other places
in my life where you know, we can do that,
but not at not the house now.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
But do you not want to be reminded?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Oh every day? Man? I was good. Let me let
me go stare at that some more. You know, all
I think about is losing to the Cowboys in ninety two?
So is there where is that? What do I do that?
Do I put that up? Someone?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Does that still hurt?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I throw up in my mouth. You just made me
throw up of my mouth, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But you brought it up, did I really?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You just did? It still hurts you to this day
that you lost to the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Because you I mean you know, I sucked and it
just pissed me off. It's like, yeah, move on, did
I do that to myself? It's Christmas time, let's be
let's be joyous.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Okay, So you have two MVPs.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You bring it out in me, Dan, it's your fault.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Do I bring out the best in you or the
worst in you?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's content.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm trying to bring the best content out of you.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Not sure. I'm not sure. You make me look at
myself really hard. I don't know what it is about
to look in the mirror with you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Troy Aikman had a couple of touchdown passes in the game.
Yeah play, thanks, you.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Know, are throwing what other details can you throw in?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then you lost to Georgia by three points when
you threw five interceptions.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And then when I lost to Charles Barklay who wants
to be a millionaire, you know, celebrity edition, when I
didn't know the the definition of crucible, Like thanks, whatever else?
I lost to Erkle in the NBA three point shootout.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Any other losses that you want to talk about.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Dan, it was like the ball take it down here
like this, Like how am I losing? Am I losing?
To Rkle like, this is not possible.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Damn any other losses that you want to bring up.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, he asked me about getting benched, and I think
you've triggered something, Dan, You've triggered something. I don't know,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Those are the big ones, like Tampa Bay. You never
got benched?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Did I get benched? And uh, well, when I didn't
get benched, but when Ray Perkins took the job after
my full season at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when I
was two and fourteen, and I've never I have never
fought and battled and with other Warriors in my life
as much. Then they earned those two wins. He showed
up in the off season and said, young, I hate
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lefties and I hate scramblers.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And I'm like, uh, oh, that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
That's the problem. I'm left handed and I scramble.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well that's the old. Yeah. Today in today's game, I'm
the man, right this this is my game. And uh
and you know, no one thinks bad of it. But
lefties was a thing, you know. Bill Waltsh was the
first one that said to me, bro, I think being
lefty is an advantage and the fact that you can
run around. If you'll learn the skill of throwing the
ball in the pocket, the sophisticated part of the game,
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you can't be stopped like he was the first one
that gave me the vision. Everyone else is like, you're lefty, man,
I don't know. I don't know if I want to
coach you in college. Same thing. I don't know, Lefty.
You you got to play defense? You know? Being lefty
was like this curse discrimination, Dan, something's a problem. How
about in the NFL. Think about this. Ten percent of
people human beings are left handed right ten percent? Are
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there ten percent representation and quarterbacks in the NFL, no
one in the last thirty years name on one hand.
You cannot name lefty quarterbacks. There is complete discrimination. Dan.
We'll get to the bottom of it in another show.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Dang, who are you today?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I don't know. It's like Christmas times, like I think
you said, being benched, and I just I don't know.
I just brought up all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Like Josh Allen seems to have figured it out.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
No, I would go the other way. I think the
Bills have figured it out because Josh for a number
of years had to play that Superman role over and
over and over again, because again the game is dramatically
changed for offensive players to go make take the space
he would go try to do it because he wasn't
(30:25):
getting the help. And now all of a sudden, he's
getting the running help. He's got offensive line help, he's
got innovative play calling which is much more interesting and cool,
and now he doesn't have to be Superman every play.
And what's funny about it, the second you take that away,
where it's not this burden that he has to kind
of do it every play and do something crazy, and
(30:46):
all of a sudden, the more we get Josh Allen
that when he does do it, it's like, oh, it's
just knifing. It's just you know, you complete capitulates from
the defense. They just crushes them. So I would say
that the Bills came to Josh. Now he's gotten better,
he's gotten his sophisticated passing has gotten better, like it's
all honed. But I think the Bills met Josh at
(31:09):
who he could be, just like the Chiefs meet where
Patrick is and where every team needs. That's why I
say this for Lamar Jackson, meet him where he is,
and I just they're trying. They're trying to change the
offense and make it less of the most sophisticated running
game in America and build a sophisticated passing game. I
think they're trying, and at times it's amazing. But now
(31:32):
obviously they got to do in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Let me go back to being a left handed quarterback
for I let you go, did you put Jerry Rice? Like,
would you, as a left handed quarterback, want your best
receiver on your left side?
Speaker 6 (31:45):
No, it didn't matter. That doesn't matter. So here's the
key is that football is right handed, so right handed
that they see lefties and the coaches like, a, I
don't know if that I want to coach you because
I then have to flip everything and I have to
teach it differently. I just that's how simpleton that people
in football can be. But if you think about it,
(32:06):
because football is sole right handed, everything gets installed right handed,
every plays right handed. As a start, that linebackers now
are left handed right because they're opposite right, so everything
happens to their left and all of a sudden, the
lefty comes out and boots left and is on the run.
And now you know, like there's a moment that Bill
Watson one that told me about it is like you're
gonna have the flash of reflect reflex from defenses that
(32:30):
you're gonna take advantage of. And that's why when to
me when I see a lefty in the game, I'm like,
that's an advantage no one else sees.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I guess we did the math.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Less than three percent of quarterbacks in the NFL are
left handed.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
You got a crack staff there, Yes, now that I know.
And look, that's when I found out as a Dodger.
So I mean, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Well that was Fritzy who made the mistake thought that
you were.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
I really loved the last couple of months thinking myself
as a a professional baseball player.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I when we have you on her, we helping her, hurting.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
You, it's awesome therapy. Dan, I really appreciate you bringing
me on. The kids are my kids are here wanting
to walk by because they got to get going, Like
what's the problem, Like there's all things going on around here.
It helps. I love being a part of the Dan
Patrick show.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So all the girls are there, Well.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Yeah, Summer's right here, Hi, Summer, there you go. You're good.
Go bye, You're good. She's been waiting and bugging me
the whole time. Maybe that's what happened, is that I
was distracted this whole time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Does she care that you're a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
I see.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I say to people a lot of times when they
say something to me nicely out on the street, like Steve,
you are amazing, Well you were great, and like would
you go home and maybe say that, you know that'd be.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Helpful around your wife.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I just tell people like, you know, like I was
really cool, you know, but I like I'm overplaying a
little bit. But because everyone gets it, but I again,
I don't, I don't want. Look, it's a big enough
burden in some ways, fame is a thief, Dan, Let's
be honest, and if you're not careful, fame can take
stuff away from you that you don't even notice. And
so I think I realized that at some point and
(34:12):
I wasn't gonna like burden the house with it.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Did you get off hold of yourself at some point?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah? There were moments I remember.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
And when is that going to end?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
What ended fast? I went down the look I was
the super Bowl. We won the super Bowl, and of
course you're going down to Disneyland because you got to go,
you know, because that's it wasn't a metaphor to yell
on the camera, I'm going to Disneyland. And so you're
down there, you're going through and I remember going down
Main Street and it was everyone's like, Steve, you're the man,
You're the king, You're the greatest. And I remember the
yelling back.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am the greatest.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I just lost my mind. Man.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
I I laugh about that, laugh about it even this moment.
I'm like, what what got into me? Like I wouldn't
not like like me to do that, but I was like, I, yeah,
you're right. But then the freaking Main Street is so
short that that lasted like three minutes and turn it
backstage and you know it's over. So yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Keep your head up, Okay, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I think it's important Dan to recognize when you've made
the vulnerability when things don't go well, and to learn
that Ronnie Lott taught me, Man, competition is not worth
it unless it's if it's just winning winter winters and losers.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, but he's cut off a finger, but I'm the
same competition.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Think about this, he said, this over and over. To me,
competition is not worth it if it's just winning and losing.
If you don't give me the space to lose and learn,
then I don't want to do it. And so yeah,
I've lost and I'm trying to learn. So the great
Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
He lost to the Cowboys in nineteen ninety two. He's
Steve Young and uh, great.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
To you don't need to do you need to drive
it home. Now.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I thought we were like that was good, Like we're
learning from don't you.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Don't have to ride the crap train like you can
get old or something else.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
The crap train.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Well, yeah, that's cramp.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Okay, that's that's bull Cramp is what you don't.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Want to live. I don't look. I want to be
vulnerable enough to recognize that I need to learn and
you know, be better, But I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You want to be vulnerable enough to be vulnerable. Yeah, yeah,
he's Steve Young lot. I'll check in with you. Learn,
I'll check you and learn. Then well next week I'll
check in with you. All right, are you are you?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Are you one thousand million to zero? I mean if
you you just dominated every yeah, then maybe that's why
you don't get it. You're undefeated.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah a problem. Yeah, you know what, when I lose,
I'll call.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You, do me you be posted.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
He's uh.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Steve Young once again lost in nineteen ninety two to
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Well take a break, we're back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am easterns six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Full disclosure, Steve Young might be my favorite guest. Charles
is up there, Reggie's up there, but Steve Young is unique.
He is He's fun and self deprecating, two time MVP
Hall of Famer, all of those things, and the losses
(37:25):
are the ones that stay with you, the fact that
it still bothers you. Nineteen ninety two, he lost to
the Dallas Cowboys. His comments about Jerry Jones and the
Cowboys are about to go viral and just let you know.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeh see. I was just.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Reading or I've been reading that book by Trevor Moad
who's like he got famous with Russell Wilson sort of
being like his life coach, I think. But he's worked
with a lot of different teams and in the book,
he said something about how the brain absorbs seven times
more negative information than it does positive information, which makes
a lot of sense when you think about how those
(38:01):
losses stick with you a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You know, like if you strike out to.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Lose the game, it's like, man, I remember that so
much more vividly than I do that the good play
that I had, Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Then factor in social media. If you have children, oh
and seven out of ten, those things are staying with you.
I was pretty fortunate with my daughters that social media
kind of exploded, and I got out of that window
there with them for the most part unscathed, because it's tough.
(38:34):
You post something and even now I'm not on social
media because nine out of ten times you could say, boy,
that was a great interview, or you know, the show
is great, it's the one person, and then that one
thing stays with you. I just don't want that. You know,
if we make a mistake. If I make a mistake
and somebody clarifies corrects me, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I have no problem with it.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But you know, when the vitriol is out there and hey,
you know this show is terrible, or you should retire, and.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That's not why I do it. I don't need it,
don't want it. Had people say, man, you should take
advantage of social media. I said, I have social media.
It's called my show. I have three hours. Most people
don't have something like this. They'll have a podcast. We
tweet things out. We have great people behind the scenes
with social media. But you know seven out of ten
(39:29):
is seat And said, man, just back through that. In
everyday life, if you have children, what they go through.
Let's see this day in sports history, Paulie, what do
you have for me?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
A couple?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
There's always a couple with Will Chamberlain scored seventy eight
points in a game against the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Oh for raid.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Wayne Gretzky scored his one hundredth point of the season
before January first.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
He did it in thirty four games. That's silly, thirty
four games.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He finished the season with two hundred and five points
that year, nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
This doesn't seem like that's correct.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
And that's about it.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Let's see Jerry Rice in nineteen ninety five two hundred
and eighty nine yards three touchdowns in a win over
the Vikings. Let's see a final results of the pole question.
I think we were wrapping those things up. Oh Tomorrow,
Tomorrow on the program, Chris Collinsworth will join us and
one of my favorite new music artists. His name is
(40:29):
Steven Wilson Junior the Third. He has become kind of
an Internet sensation and he stopped through last week as
he was in Massachusetts going to New York City for
a concert, and we reached out. He stopped in played
a couple of songs. We'll bring that to you coming
up in the final hour of the program tomorrow. I
(40:52):
think it's he's I would be doing a disservice if
I didn't let you hear this artist. He's that talented
and I hope you'll enjoy that. That'll be tomorrow, Todd,
What did I learn on the program today?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
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Speaker 4 (41:09):
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Have a great day everybody. Thanks for joining us. We'll
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(41:32):
Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the final hour in this Wednesday, Dan and the
Dan It's Dan Patrick Show. Spend some time with Charles Barkley.
You can always listen back on the podcast. Steve Young,
forty nine ers Hall of Fame quarterback, will stop by
as well. Fritzi is concerned about the audience with withdrawal
symptoms from the NBA Cup and I hope you'll survive.
Bucks beat the Thunder ninety seven to eighty one. Football
(00:27):
coming up later on tonight, The Falcons at bench Kirk Cousins,
Michael Pennix Junior the third we'll get this start poll
question for the final hour. The program is going to
be watched Seaton.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
How are you handling your withdrawal from getting getting JK JK.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Let me get you some results real quick. Falcons decision
to bench Kirk Cousins is smart or desperate?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That has still fifty one to forty nine. Okay, that's
interesting to me. And the most awkward quarterback situation Falcons.
Brown's vikings forty one is Falcons getting running away with
that one almost half of the vote just because of
the news recently.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah. Yeah, if Kirk Cousins was starting this weekend against
the Giants, then those results would be different.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It might be too, just the amount of money wrapped
up in it. Yeah, you know that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I mean, the Jets situation's awkward because if I'm taking
over the job, I don't want Aaron Rodgers because he's
probably going to be in there for one year and
it's become his franchise. I got to take that away
from him, and I would want to be able to
start fresh. And there's a lot of rumors that go
on now because we have three more regular season games
(01:39):
and everybody who's out of the playoff race, they're kind
of lining up.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They want to make sure in the game of.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Musical chairs, there's a chair for you to sit on
when it comes to getting a head coach. Mike Brabel's name,
Ben Johnson's name, those are two names will be at
the forefront here. Brabel, I'm surprised that he was out
of a job for a year. I think he's a
great coach, and he's a culture coach. He creates the culture.
(02:05):
And this is something I talked about a couple of
days ago and That is how many guys can come
in and change the culture. Not I'm an offensive minded
or defensive minded guy. Like I don't know if Dan
Quinn changed the culture with the Commanders. I think Jayden
Daniels changed the culture. I think New Ownership changed the culture.
I don't think it was Dan Quinn. His coaching stuff. Now,
(02:26):
Dan Campbell changed the culture with the Lions. That's what
you're looking for. Can you get somebody in here who's
going to change the culture of the Bears because it
just feels like they can't get out of their own way.
You need somebody who sets the example. Maybe you get
the front office out of the way or ownership out
(02:47):
of the way, and you're able to establish Like Mike
Ditka did in Chicago, he created a culture. Buddy Ryan
with him created a culture. Buddy Ryan with the Eagles
created a culture. Jimmy Johnson and created a culture. It's
not boy that guy's a defensive minded genius or an
offensive minded genius. It's you get in there and you
(03:08):
must change that feeling that you have. And there's not
a lot of coaches. Jim Harbaugh is a culture changer.
Did that at Michigan, did it in San Francisco. He's
doing it with the Chargers as well, and Mike Brabel
to me is one of those culture changers. Eight seven
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team up with their loved ones the PNC Championship Saturday
and Sunday on NBC and Peacock. I love that event.
It is pretty cool every year. And then they'll always
do the side by side of Tiger and Charlie's swings
(03:51):
and you're like, if you didn't know, you would say,
that's Tiger.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
No, that's Charlie.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
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College bowl games are underway, the Bulk of ratone Bowl,
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(04:17):
Norfolk State hires Michael Vick as their new head coach.
All right, some phone calls in here and oh, you
know what, let's play in or out. Paulie, give us
the topics of you're either in or out.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Here's the following statement, in or out. Kirk Cousins will
get the reins of one more franchise next season.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Todd in Seaton, I'm in on it happening, not in
on the no that it should. Okay, Marvin in in.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
If the Jets move on from Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers
will get the reins of one more franchise next year.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Todd in, Seaton out, marv out out.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Wow, the trend of hiring former star football players at
smaller colleges Deon Sanders, Michael Vick is just getting started.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Todd in Seaton in, Marvin in, Eddie, George in.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, this one's a big one. The NBA's rating situation
is not really fixable.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Todd out, Seaton out, Marvin out. This commissioner's too smart out.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
This is a ten year build up to this. I
don't know how the commissioner goes to the players union
says force your players to play eighty games. I don't
know if that's possible to do.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's not because I don't know what you know any
of these in Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is it his k Me?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Like, I don't even know anymore, And it doesn't matter
to me. Not if you're part of the Clipper fan base,
you're like, I hope he plays. I like in the
NBA to this, Let's say you have a restaurant and
it's a good restaurant. You just never know when it's open.
You don't know what days that are they're open or closed,
(06:25):
You don't know the hours that they're open.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But it's a really good restaurant. That's the NBA.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You got a lot of good content, interesting players. I
just don't know who's playing and who's not playing. But
am I going to drive there if they're going to
be closed? Hey it's a Tuesday. Wait you close on
a Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
When did that happen?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
We just started. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And that's the problem with the NBA, Like the NFL,
situation comes down to keeping your quarterbacks healthy. If you
keep your quarterbacks healthy, they had over sixty different quarterbacks
last year. I don't think the ratings suffered, but they
want to ensure that you still have star power there
as often as possible.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You got that schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You want to make sure that those guys are going
to be playing in these games.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I feel like the a bigger problem than load management
and the style of the game that's played is the
number of fouls called. Okay, I feel like there's a
foul every thirteen seconds, and it's impossible to get a
feel and flow for the game when every little tiki
(07:38):
tac foul is being called. Let them play a little bit.
I get that there's a foul and there's not, but
there's other times that it's like, who can even tell
where the contact was anymore? And you're already blowing It's
like a preemptive foul call, a preemptive whistle. That to
me is a much bigger problem because I can look
at the game and be like, oh, Dann Lebron's not playing,
but the game is already happening.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You get into the game.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Todd, would you check? I don't know if the NBA
would have these numbers, they should. Is there a the
number of like how often is a foul called in
the NBA? And how has that changed over the last
that's say, two decades?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know, hey, back in two thousand and two, it
was called, you know, once every nine seconds, and then
it's once every fourteen second. So it's whatever it is.
I'm going to guess they keep that data. I'd be
curious about that. Yes, yeah, Paul, I have it.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's fouls called per decade, like each decade foules called
per game in the NBA. In the eighties, per game,
twenty four point nine files called, in the nineties, twenty
two point seven, in the two thousands, twenty two, even
twenty tens, twenty point three fouls called per game, and
in the past four years, including this year, nineteen point
(08:52):
six sous.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right, so word less, like I said, due to
the three, well obviously going down.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So I actually don't.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I think Seaton's point is wrong because if you look
at the amount of drives to the basket in threes,
I'll bet you the well, it seems like there's fewer calls.
There's so much less contact, So that means they're still
calling TICKI tag stuff now when twenty years ago that
wouldn't have been called. So I think Seaton is right
with what he's saying.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Well, they're not calling more foul, not more, but more
light fouls. There's no stat for that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, is that a light foul? Used to be there
was a playoff foul. I always love that, you know
the fact the Kurt Ramba is Kevin McHale play. Hey,
that's just playoff basketball. It's not a flagrant. You're not
throwing anybody out. That's playoff foul. I like you had
that designation. You can get away with anything. Hey, you're
(09:46):
gonna throw it. No, it's a play it's a playoff ful.
Oh okay, that's right.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
See maybe it is a combination of that, like come down,
miss a three, go to the other way, miss a three,
come down, miss a three, go back the other way,
drive to the hoop.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Falcoll one more in or out?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yes, Okay, in or out. I want lots of snow
at college football playoff games this weekend. Home games are
at Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame High Snow possibilities.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, the Clemson game will probably not be snow less likely, Yeah,
probably not. Do I want snow? Todd, you went around
in Seaton, Sure, Marvin, I guess I'm out.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm out. I like the visual.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I want to make sure that you still get quality football,
not some cold weather. I'm in on that, uh, Stringer
in Arizona joints us Hey Stringer, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Heydnn second time long time six ' two and a
semisoft two fifteen. Hey, I was watching you guys on
Peacock and I saw when you were using that ball
cannon and the backdrop for you shooting it, everybody is
Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. And did I have this
(11:12):
epiphany that that looks you could recreate that with some
old school uniforms with Fritzy and Marvin and that would
be awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So Marvin would be Babe Ruth and Fritzy would be
Jackie Robinson. Are you guys, Are you guys willing to
play the roles of Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth Todd?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Of course, Marvin, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We just got to get the old Brooklyn Dodger uniform
and all of the matchups in the fieldhouse. All of
that art is by an artist named rc arc Y,
and I wanted matchups that never happen. You have Shack
against Wilt, Caitlin Clark against Steph Curry. You have Lebron
and Michael Jordan, Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. So I thought,
(11:59):
you Knowlawrence Taylor rushing Tom Brady as Tom Brady throws
a pass and it's Dwight Clark when Dwight had the
catch for the forty nine ers. So just trying to
create matchups that never happened in real life. Johnny and Pittsburgh,
Hi Johnny, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Dan Dannetz, Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays? Six ' four a offski,
two fifty five a ski ski.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
So I want to comment real quick on Michael Pennick Junior,
but real quick when we were listening to Chuck talk
about the Jason Kelsey's show. I don't know if he'd
ever do it, but could you imagine if he was
a sidekick or vice versa on the talk show Chuck
and Jason Kelsey that that could be a good recipe.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Just a thought there.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
As far as Panix, I'm was seting on the polar results.
I don't understand this why it's so polarizing risk reward, Like,
do you remember how criticized that pick was when they
did it? No one understood it right, And it makes
so much sense though, when you really think about it,
(13:09):
I love Pennis. I mean, people forget that this now
Indiana team. He was there three years. The guy's high character,
huge arm. He's out as actor as Jade Daniels, but
that Heisman class he came in second. Jane Daniels, Bo Nicks,
Marvin Harrison Junior, stiple risk reward. I think the kid's
(13:30):
a baller, and I think they got a good one
on their hands and simple risk reward. I want seven
and seven. Why not give them a go?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I'm I understand it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They may luck into a great situation, Johnny, but this
is still the same organization that gave ninety million dollars
to Kirk Cousins. So I can, on one hand say, man,
you guys are brilliant. It's like the Niners with Trey Lance.
Like I can't say, man, they found rock perty yes,
and you also drafted Trey Lance. You know they may
(14:01):
luck into this in Atlanta, and I'm all in on
the risk and the reward. I think the team needs
some juice. I think they need something here because we
keep saying the same things. Man, they got a lot
of skilled position players. Okay, let's see what Michael Pennix
Junior will do with those skilled position players. Steve Young
will join us. What does he think of this move
(14:23):
by the Falcons? He'll tell you next after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
Always a treat to have Steve Young on the show.
The Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl Champ. Were
you ever benched? Like in getting you know, Kirk Cousins
getting benched?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Now? Do you know what that feeling's like?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I benched? I don't know why. It doesn't really, it
doesn't ring a bell, Dan. I might I might have
blocked it out.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
I threw six interceptions as a tenth grader in JV
and the coach said that after the game, He's like,
you guys are the worst athletes in the world. And
who's he? I mean, who's he really saying that too?
So I was like, I think that was that was
my biggest benching. I don't know if I I don't
even know if I got benched after that. I should
have been, uh. I th I threw five interceptions at
Georgia when I my first game at by U and
(16:18):
la Belle Edwards at halftimes like, you'll be okay, you'll
be I'm like, no, I know, I'm gonna be fine.
I'll be great. He goes, No, you got really now
you know? Now you may me mad. Now you got
you got problems. You got to fix it fast. And
uh but I didn't get benched there either, So maybe
I should have been benched a number of times, Dan,
but somehow escaped the benching.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What was your best game in high school?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Best game in high school? I don't know. I mean
I I used to I didn't know how to throw
the ball. I didn't I just ran around. So uh
we were running the wishbone and uh, I mean I
I remember the triple option. You know, you make the
first spake and everyone's like, pitch it and I'd keep it,
you know. I was like, what do get patch it?
(17:01):
Like I asked, But it's the second option. Well, you know,
don't worry about it. But I don't know. There's some
there's some games running all over the place that were fun.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
But but you went to a passing school.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I had this crazy dream, Dan, that I was going
to play in the NFL and that I and if
I was going to play in the NFL, I had
to go put it somewhere where I throw the football.
And even though I didn't know how to throw it correctly.
I remember my recruiting trip. I went to Army up
to West Point for a recruiting trip and they played
Pitt and my my senior year in high school, Dan
(17:33):
Reno was the rookie, you know, the first freshman quarterback.
I remember staying on the sidelines and Dan Reno threw
like a thirty yard bullet out right in front of
me like like that. I was like, oh, yeah, I
got some distancan cover here, because that whatever that is,
it's not what I'm doing right now. As a senior
in high school, man, I got some. And that's why
(17:55):
so ironic. We went into a pro football hall theme together,
and I remember thinking back full circle man. From standing
on the sidelines at West.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Point, I think Marino like he was ahead of the
curve in what he was doing.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Oh Dan, remember he'd hold it right here and just show.
And I spent the next four years of my life
I spent throwing the football from right here.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
My arm hurt.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I couldn't throw any street but I was gonna be
Dan Marino man, and there's only one guy that could
throw it like that. Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Your thoughts on benching Kirk Cousins for Michael Pennock junior.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, they've been they've been a little bit unconventional since
they've drafted Michael, so everyone didn't expect it. But in
many ways, uh uh, you know, there's such a desire
to get young, mobile quarterbacks in the end. Kirk can't
get those yards that are out there in the game today.
(18:52):
Remember when they changed the rules and they made defenders
they couldn't launch their bodies anymore. They essentially made the
game the field biggers like a Canadian field. Now, if
you think about it that way, the field just got
that much bigger in the NFL. And with that space,
it's that's why all these cool plays and all this innovation,
all this fun stuff. It's great. And so if you're
a quarterback that can't go get those yards, especially in
(19:14):
the big games. And I'm talking about leaving the pocket
with your legs, calling plays out of the huddle like
the Bills do, and you know Josh Allen walks into
the end zone. How how hard is it to throw
to score in the in the NFL, in the red zone,
and the Bills just make it simple because he has
this ability now to use his legs, to use his mobility,
and if Kirk doesn't have that. Now, Michael's not the
(19:36):
most you know, look, he's not the most mobile guy,
but at least he can go get those yards. That
might be what they're thinking too.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Awkward quarterback situations. Vikings with Sam Darnold a good awkward.
The Jets situation of what do you do do you
want Rogers back? And if you're a new coach coming
in the Falcons is kind of awkward. If Pennix plays well,
do you do with Kirk? If he doesn't play well,
(20:02):
it's awkward? Then I offer this one up. Let me
start with this the Niners quarterbacking situation with rock Party
coming Doe. Is that an awkward quarterback situation decision?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Well? Uh, you know, I mean it really comes down
to how you see the game today and what I
just describe to you in the difference between Kirk, Cousins
and and and somebody that can move around and take
the take the yards. Do you if you don't have
that ability to extend and to push, you know, kind
of from your your athletic ability just to push defenses backwards,
(20:40):
you're gonna need more help. That's why Jared Goff last week,
remember he ray scrambled once and everyone's like, oh my gosh,
it's like Josh Allen, you know, but so he can't
do it. It's not his game. So he needs actually
in the game today because what he's described to you,
you need more room and so you need more help.
And so when Josh gets it. Let me say it
this way. If you have a series, a ten play series,
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they score a touchdown in those ten plays. If it's
Jared Goff, you're gonna have ten plays where you have
to call out of the huddle generally and have it
work all the way down the field. So that's hard
to do. It's retail football. It's hard to do. If
you can do it, and you can get really good
at it, but it's just it's got a degree of difficulty.
Where Josh Allen on the same side of the other
(21:22):
side of the ball, he'll have a ten play drive
and he'll score, but three of the plays were off
script and we're easy yards and you don't have to
it doesn't have to be efficient doesn't have to be perfect,
doesn't have to be timed up, and so all of
a sudden, it's seventy percent of the time you got
to play great football or or tactical or efficient football,
and the Lions have to do one hundred percent. So
(21:42):
you go back to brock perty He's got he's he's
gonna have to he needs out of the huddle. That's
his superpower call play run it and uh and then
matriculate down the field and throw it into the end
zone and h or run it in the end zone.
So in many ways in the game, you would say, look,
I need I want to make sure that I have
(22:02):
plenty of help for brock Purty, plenty of help for
Jared Goff, plenty of help for Kirk Cousins, and I
need money to do that. And so that's where the
maybe the awkwardness that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Would do you want to spend sixty fifty five sixty million.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You're gonna spend if Look, I think that Dak Prescott
the Cowboys are going to suffer for a long time
because they paid him a number that now in many
ways takes from the ability to build teams to go
help you for the very thing that you need. And
so that's the that's the dilemma, because I mean, we
love everyone loves Brock and loves his game and loves
(22:37):
his efficiency and his leadership and everything else, but we
got to make sure we have the money to put
the people with him to to go win it. Because
if the goal is super Bowls, if the goal is
winning some rank and file regular season games, maybe get
to the playoffs, that's a different goal and that might
mean different. But if you're talking about we want to
go to the super Bowl, we need people to be
(22:58):
there to help Brock. And if you don't, and so
that it becomes just how much is there available? And
is a zero sum game in some ways with a
salary cap. And I think, I mean, I look at
how Tom Brady thought about it, Look at how Patrick
Mahomes thinks about it. Right he says, hey, look, I'm cool,
you get you know, I got my money, but I
(23:18):
wanted to have plenty of money. And how many times
did Tom every year say, look, I'm gonna recon restructure
my I want plenty of money to get people that
can come help me win super Bowls. And so I
just with that mentality. He could all get worked out.
If everybody says, oh no, I want every last dollar
and I have to and I have to set the market,
that's going to be a complicated. There's the awkwardness that
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you just talked about.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We'll go back to Dallas. Jerry Jones. You know, everybody
lodgs him as a great businessman. He has to know
what he's doing to the franchise by giving Dak Prescott
those numbers.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, and come on, man, for thirty years, I mean
he has not empowered anyone to walk in the locker
room and firebody. And so without that power, the court,
a coach in the NFL is neutered. And and you
think about why the Cowboys never reached their potential for
thirty years now, why because they not empowered. So don't
tell me now that Jerry made a mistake by paying
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back then like like he got You could see that
he waited and waited and got desperate. Right at the end.
It's like, okay, let's capitulate this even starting pay them. Well, okay,
but now what have we done. We've again, we've you know,
over we've over corrected for something that we should have
kind of held the line on and so to me
(24:36):
holding accountability in the Cowboys system. Remember, I've always said
ever there's America's team account. There's something about the team
that they show up and they're famous. And I've said
before you should take the stars off the helmet. And
you have to win ten games to get one star,
and you have to win a playoff game to get
the other star. And now you're now you've earned it yourself.
(24:56):
You're not You're not special. You're not you know and
I don't. There's something really missing with the Cowboys, and
it's been missing for a long time. Number One, get
a coach that can walk into the locker room and
fire somebody without asking. Jerry, that's got to happen yesterday.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
You have two MVPs regular season? Yes, okay, where are they?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Do you get to go? Do you get a thing?
What do you mean you get? I mean, yeah, I
got it. I don't know they're around, I don't know.
They're not the house my kids. I refuse to burden
my kids with you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Wait, you know, so if I walk in your house,
I wouldn't know what you did for a living.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
No, no, you would not know.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wait, you should have a statue in front of your house, all.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Right, I should have a you know what, everyone everyone
rubs it on the way in and then uh and
then uh bowls on the way out. That's how it
should work. That's the way to you know.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Wait, okay, do I have to Carson Palmer's heisman is
in the garage?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yeah? So mine? So you asked my absolutely the MVP trophies.
I'm sure one might be at bou and another one
might be uh over at work or something like that.
I mean, it's kind of like like there's other places
in my life where you know, we can do that,
but not at not the house now.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
But do you not want to be reminded?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Oh every day? Man? I was good. Let me let
me go stare at that some more. You know, all
I think about is losing to the Cowboys in ninety two?
So is there where is that? What do I do that?
Do I put that up? Someone?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Does that still hurt?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I throw up in my mouth. You just made me
throw up of my mouth, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But you brought it up, did I really?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You just did? It still hurts you to this day
that you lost to the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Because you I mean you know, I sucked and it
just pissed me off. It's like, yeah, move on, did
I do that to myself? It's Christmas time, let's be
let's be joyous.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Okay, So you have two MVPs.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You bring it out in me, Dan, it's your fault.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Do I bring out the best in you or the
worst in you?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's content.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm trying to bring the best content out of you.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Not sure. I'm not sure. You make me look at
myself really hard. I don't know what it is about
to look in the mirror with you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Troy Aikman had a couple of touchdown passes in the game.
Yeah play, thanks, you.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Know, are throwing what other details can you throw in?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then you lost to Georgia by three points when
you threw five interceptions.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And then when I lost to Charles Barklay who wants
to be a millionaire, you know, celebrity edition, when I
didn't know the the definition of crucible, Like thanks, whatever else?
I lost to Erkle in the NBA three point shootout.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Any other losses that you want to talk about.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Dan, it was like the ball take it down here
like this, Like how am I losing? Am I losing?
To Rkle like, this is not possible.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Damn any other losses that you want to bring up.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, he asked me about getting benched, and I think
you've triggered something, Dan, You've triggered something. I don't know,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Those are the big ones, like Tampa Bay. You never
got benched?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Did I get benched? And uh, well, when I didn't
get benched, but when Ray Perkins took the job after
my full season at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when I
was two and fourteen, and I've never I have never
fought and battled and with other Warriors in my life
as much. Then they earned those two wins. He showed
up in the off season and said, young, I hate
(28:38):
lefties and I hate scramblers.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And I'm like, uh, oh, that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
That's the problem. I'm left handed and I scramble.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well that's the old. Yeah. Today in today's game, I'm
the man, right this this is my game. And uh
and you know, no one thinks bad of it. But
lefties was a thing, you know. Bill Waltsh was the
first one that said to me, bro, I think being
lefty is an advantage and the fact that you can
run around. If you'll learn the skill of throwing the
ball in the pocket, the sophisticated part of the game,
(29:10):
you can't be stopped like he was the first one
that gave me the vision. Everyone else is like, you're lefty, man,
I don't know. I don't know if I want to
coach you in college. Same thing. I don't know, Lefty.
You you got to play defense? You know? Being lefty
was like this curse discrimination, Dan, something's a problem. How
about in the NFL. Think about this. Ten percent of
people human beings are left handed right ten percent? Are
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there ten percent representation and quarterbacks in the NFL, no
one in the last thirty years name on one hand.
You cannot name lefty quarterbacks. There is complete discrimination. Dan.
We'll get to the bottom of it in another show.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Dang, who are you today?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I don't know. It's like Christmas times, like I think
you said, being benched, and I just I don't know.
I just brought up all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Like Josh Allen seems to have figured it out.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
No, I would go the other way. I think the
Bills have figured it out because Josh for a number
of years had to play that Superman role over and
over and over again, because again the game is dramatically
changed for offensive players to go make take the space
he would go try to do it because he wasn't
(30:25):
getting the help. And now all of a sudden, he's
getting the running help. He's got offensive line help, he's
got innovative play calling which is much more interesting and cool,
and now he doesn't have to be Superman every play.
And what's funny about it, the second you take that away,
where it's not this burden that he has to kind
of do it every play and do something crazy, and
(30:46):
all of a sudden, the more we get Josh Allen
that when he does do it, it's like, oh, it's
just knifing. It's just you know, you complete capitulates from
the defense. They just crushes them. So I would say
that the Bills came to Josh. Now he's gotten better,
he's gotten his sophisticated passing has gotten better, like it's
all honed. But I think the Bills met Josh at
(31:09):
who he could be, just like the Chiefs meet where
Patrick is and where every team needs. That's why I
say this for Lamar Jackson, meet him where he is,
and I just they're trying. They're trying to change the
offense and make it less of the most sophisticated running
game in America and build a sophisticated passing game. I
think they're trying, and at times it's amazing. But now
(31:32):
obviously they got to do in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Let me go back to being a left handed quarterback
for I let you go, did you put Jerry Rice? Like,
would you, as a left handed quarterback, want your best
receiver on your left side?
Speaker 6 (31:45):
No, it didn't matter. That doesn't matter. So here's the
key is that football is right handed, so right handed
that they see lefties and the coaches like, a, I
don't know if that I want to coach you because
I then have to flip everything and I have to
teach it differently. I just that's how simpleton that people
in football can be. But if you think about it,
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because football is sole right handed, everything gets installed right handed,
every plays right handed. As a start, that linebackers now
are left handed right because they're opposite right, so everything
happens to their left and all of a sudden, the
lefty comes out and boots left and is on the run.
And now you know, like there's a moment that Bill
Watson one that told me about it is like you're
gonna have the flash of reflect reflex from defenses that
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you're gonna take advantage of. And that's why when to
me when I see a lefty in the game, I'm like,
that's an advantage no one else sees.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I guess we did the math.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Less than three percent of quarterbacks in the NFL are
left handed.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
You got a crack staff there, Yes, now that I know.
And look, that's when I found out as a Dodger.
So I mean, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Well that was Fritzy who made the mistake thought that
you were.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
I really loved the last couple of months thinking myself
as a a professional baseball player.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I when we have you on her, we helping her, hurting.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
You, it's awesome therapy. Dan, I really appreciate you bringing
me on. The kids are my kids are here wanting
to walk by because they got to get going, Like
what's the problem, Like there's all things going on around here.
It helps. I love being a part of the Dan
Patrick show.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So all the girls are there, Well.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Yeah, Summer's right here, Hi, Summer, there you go. You're good.
Go bye, You're good. She's been waiting and bugging me
the whole time. Maybe that's what happened, is that I
was distracted this whole time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Does she care that you're a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
I see.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I say to people a lot of times when they
say something to me nicely out on the street, like Steve,
you are amazing, Well you were great, and like would
you go home and maybe say that, you know that'd be.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Helpful around your wife.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I just tell people like, you know, like I was
really cool, you know, but I like I'm overplaying a
little bit. But because everyone gets it, but I again,
I don't, I don't want. Look, it's a big enough
burden in some ways, fame is a thief, Dan, Let's
be honest, and if you're not careful, fame can take
stuff away from you that you don't even notice. And
so I think I realized that at some point and
(34:12):
I wasn't gonna like burden the house with it.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Did you get off hold of yourself at some point?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah? There were moments I remember.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
And when is that going to end?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
What ended fast? I went down the look I was
the super Bowl. We won the super Bowl, and of
course you're going down to Disneyland because you got to go,
you know, because that's it wasn't a metaphor to yell
on the camera, I'm going to Disneyland. And so you're
down there, you're going through and I remember going down
Main Street and it was everyone's like, Steve, you're the man,
You're the king, You're the greatest. And I remember the
yelling back.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am the greatest.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I just lost my mind. Man.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
I I laugh about that, laugh about it even this moment.
I'm like, what what got into me? Like I wouldn't
not like like me to do that, but I was like, I, yeah,
you're right. But then the freaking Main Street is so
short that that lasted like three minutes and turn it
backstage and you know it's over. So yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Keep your head up, Okay, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I think it's important Dan to recognize when you've made
the vulnerability when things don't go well, and to learn
that Ronnie Lott taught me, Man, competition is not worth
it unless it's if it's just winning winter winters and losers.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, but he's cut off a finger, but I'm the
same competition.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Think about this, he said, this over and over. To me,
competition is not worth it if it's just winning and losing.
If you don't give me the space to lose and learn,
then I don't want to do it. And so yeah,
I've lost and I'm trying to learn. So the great
Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
He lost to the Cowboys in nineteen ninety two. He's
Steve Young and uh, great.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
To you don't need to do you need to drive
it home. Now.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I thought we were like that was good, Like we're
learning from don't you.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Don't have to ride the crap train like you can
get old or something else.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
The crap train.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Well, yeah, that's cramp.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Okay, that's that's bull Cramp is what you don't.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Want to live. I don't look. I want to be
vulnerable enough to recognize that I need to learn and
you know, be better, But I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You want to be vulnerable enough to be vulnerable. Yeah, yeah,
he's Steve Young lot. I'll check in with you. Learn,
I'll check you and learn. Then well next week I'll
check in with you. All right, are you are you?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Are you one thousand million to zero? I mean if
you you just dominated every yeah, then maybe that's why
you don't get it. You're undefeated.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah a problem. Yeah, you know what, when I lose,
I'll call.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You, do me you be posted.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
He's uh.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Steve Young once again lost in nineteen ninety two to
the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Well take a break, we're back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am easterns six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Full disclosure, Steve Young might be my favorite guest. Charles
is up there, Reggie's up there, but Steve Young is unique.
He is He's fun and self deprecating, two time MVP
Hall of Famer, all of those things, and the losses
(37:25):
are the ones that stay with you, the fact that
it still bothers you. Nineteen ninety two, he lost to
the Dallas Cowboys. His comments about Jerry Jones and the
Cowboys are about to go viral and just let you know.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeh see. I was just.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Reading or I've been reading that book by Trevor Moad
who's like he got famous with Russell Wilson sort of
being like his life coach, I think. But he's worked
with a lot of different teams and in the book,
he said something about how the brain absorbs seven times
more negative information than it does positive information, which makes
a lot of sense when you think about how those
(38:01):
losses stick with you a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You know, like if you strike out to.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Lose the game, it's like, man, I remember that so
much more vividly than I do that the good play
that I had, Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Then factor in social media. If you have children, oh
and seven out of ten, those things are staying with you.
I was pretty fortunate with my daughters that social media
kind of exploded, and I got out of that window
there with them for the most part unscathed, because it's tough.
(38:34):
You post something and even now I'm not on social
media because nine out of ten times you could say, boy,
that was a great interview, or you know, the show
is great, it's the one person, and then that one
thing stays with you. I just don't want that. You know,
if we make a mistake. If I make a mistake
and somebody clarifies corrects me, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I have no problem with it.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But you know, when the vitriol is out there and hey,
you know this show is terrible, or you should retire, and.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That's not why I do it. I don't need it,
don't want it. Had people say, man, you should take
advantage of social media. I said, I have social media.
It's called my show. I have three hours. Most people
don't have something like this. They'll have a podcast. We
tweet things out. We have great people behind the scenes
with social media. But you know seven out of ten
(39:29):
is seat And said, man, just back through that. In
everyday life, if you have children, what they go through.
Let's see this day in sports history, Paulie, what do
you have for me?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
A couple?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
There's always a couple with Will Chamberlain scored seventy eight
points in a game against the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Oh for raid.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Wayne Gretzky scored his one hundredth point of the season
before January first.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
He did it in thirty four games. That's silly, thirty
four games.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He finished the season with two hundred and five points
that year, nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
This doesn't seem like that's correct.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
And that's about it.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Let's see Jerry Rice in nineteen ninety five two hundred
and eighty nine yards three touchdowns in a win over
the Vikings. Let's see a final results of the pole question.
I think we were wrapping those things up. Oh Tomorrow,
Tomorrow on the program, Chris Collinsworth will join us and
one of my favorite new music artists. His name is
(40:29):
Steven Wilson Junior the Third. He has become kind of
an Internet sensation and he stopped through last week as
he was in Massachusetts going to New York City for
a concert, and we reached out. He stopped in played
a couple of songs. We'll bring that to you coming
up in the final hour of the program tomorrow. I
(40:52):
think it's he's I would be doing a disservice if
I didn't let you hear this artist. He's that talented
and I hope you'll enjoy that. That'll be tomorrow, Todd,
What did I learn on the program today?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Studies show the horder pictures truck throwing the boat actually
increases their chance of hurting themselves.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Who knew what we learned?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
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Have a great day everybody. Thanks for joining us. We'll
do our best. We'll try again tomorrow. Fritzie, Satan, Marv,
(41:32):
Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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