Why Did Juan Soto Choose the Mets Over the Yankees?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to a very special edition of Waken Jake.
Because it's breaking news. Juan Soto has signed with the
New York Mets. I will unpack all my thoughts on that,
Wan Soto thoughts, Mets thoughts, Yankees thoughts, MLB thoughts. That's
probably the whole thing. I don't think. I think we're

(00:22):
gonna save it as a little backlog of you know,
we've missed some of the transactions here. I still haven't
talked about Clay Holmes, the starting pitcher for the New
York Mets, on any program. And that's that's And I
have thoughts, but I think those have to be bottled,
and I think we'll do some fun maybe a post

(00:43):
winter meetings, post mortem, best signings, worse signings. I don't know.
We'll see. And I don't know if I can invite Jolly.
I almost invited him to today, but I decided that
would be too much because I'm still a little emotional.
You know, the holidays are always tough. I just told
BBD our front door guy Luis, Me and him have

(01:06):
a nice little friendly bromance. Hey, how are you Everything's good? Yeah,
he comes up. We started busting balls I've pushed my limits,
as I do on everything. I don't know. I was
just down talking him for thirty minutes. I ended up
showing him pictures, old pictures of me playing high school soccer,
and he didn't ask, and I think that was just
my fragility showing a little bit. I in hindsight, I

(01:28):
walked him through the whole Wan Soto thing, and I
don't think he asked about that either, So I've got
things to get off my chest. I do. Also, you
know Wan Soto signing with the Mets, this will probably
be a popular Wake in Jake episode. Thank you guys
for tuning in. Make sure you're subscribed, and we'll end
it with some football and stuff. So if you're a
sporty person and you just like chopping it up, that's

(01:49):
what I like doing. So let's land the plane there eventually,
but we need to talk Wan Soto and I. I
don't know if I owe the fans an apology. No,
maybe they owe me one. I was poop pooing this
pretty hard talking Yanks like that episode. If you're a
Mets fan, go check out the last Talking Yanks. That

(02:12):
was just kind of me and BBD because I was
kind of poo pooing all the other Juan Soto rumors,
and it turns out I should have been uh, I
did poo pooh the Blue Jays, I did poo poo
the Red Sox, who apparently they were one of the
strongest players in the last twenty four hours. And apparently
Juan Soto some free agencies. We say the dollars and

(02:36):
cents don't matter. This one, the dollars and cents did matter.
And maybe there's more to unpack, and we'll get into
some of the potential fan fictions. Did wan So doa
want to be a Mets legend? Does wan So do
want to be the Mets captain? Does one like? There's
some other parts of this that are interesting. Did Wan
So do not want to be a Yankee? And are

(02:57):
they rigid and old? A lot of stuff is on
the table now, but four right now, Jan Soto takes
what are the final numbers? It's fifteen years seven sixty five.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Fifteen years seven sixty five is the baseline. There's an
opt out after the fifth year, in which case the
Mets can counter by upping the final ten years of
his deal by four million each.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So Wan Soto's minimum is seven sixty five is seven
hundred and sixty five million dollars to play baseball. And hey,
if you're someone tuning in or you've got a significant
other in the car and you're like, why do we
listen to this guy's voice? Really, that's it's insane. I
just want that out there, like sports fans are fully

(03:48):
acknowledging almost a billy to play baseball. Yeah, sports have
gone to a crazy area, a crazy area. Amazing for
Wan Soto that he gets that money. And I think
the thing that's of notes that the Yankees were one
year more in seven hundred and sixty million, so they're

(04:10):
in the ballpark. I'm sure you could do a financial
equation that you know, the Mets offer was better, and
especially with the escalators BBD mentioned briefly, like from what
we've heard, the Yankees offer has not had that.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
My understanding is the maximum maximum Yankees offers that's sixteen
for seven sixty no deferrals, which is a big part
of it because there were rivals. If it was seven
sixty with deferrals versus the Mets being able to it
potentially being eight hundred and five million, that's uh, that
is a big difference depending on how much deferrals are.

(04:42):
It's a big difference anyway. It's forty five million dollars
as far as how it can max out. Sure, I
think the baseline the baseline offers are close.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
From what we've heard where the money has landed. Juan
Soto chose the Mets and a player hasn't really done
that against the Yankees before, apparently the Red Sox were
very much in play. And it was one of my
first texts after I think after we recorded Talking Yanks

(05:12):
Talking Baseball last night, like I want the book on it.
I want Andy Martino's book in a few years because
what is the little minutia or swaying options that tied
into this? Did does want Soda want to be remembered
as the best player in franchise history? Because last year

(05:33):
he kind of played second fiddle to Judge Judges, the
captain Judges chasing his home run race in the postseason,
it was a lot of Sodo. So does Sodo want
to be the king of the world, because financially he's
gonna be, and on the Yankees, he wasn't like guaranteed
that Judges the Captain he's gonna roll it out. He
might break his own home run record this year. Then

(05:56):
there's guys like Ruth and some of the other names
of Yankee lore that are becoming more and more part
of Yankee lore. You know, there is a Wan Soto
like family rumor that came out today that the Yankees
did something weird with one of his uncles and that
maybe that mattered. I don't know. Okay, as as I'm

(06:19):
talking about this, I just got a article from jose
McFly talking about how the Yankees won one Soto beabes.
If you want to peruse through that.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
A little bit. I'm giving that a perusal before.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
This is kind of what I was asking and shout
out to Desha Dsha Toasar. Not sure if I'm saying
that right, like Dsha Meta a couple of times at
winter meetings, good Twitter x account, I guess you would say,
and I will say jose McFly when he sent the article,

(06:54):
he did followed up by saying, Jesus Christ, how so okay,
where there's we're getting more smoking fire on that front.
But I think that is maybe why it's my starting point.
Wan so to picked the Mets money came out close
to even or as close to even as it could be,

(07:14):
and so Wan so To picked the Mets, and that
could be for a lot of different reasons. Now the
money was a little bit better, So if he is,
you know, every dime every penny, which that's no fault
of his own. A lot of people operate that way.
The joke I ran with on Talking Baseball that I
think was appreciated was, Okay, Steve Cohen, he's trying to

(07:35):
change the Mets brand. He's trying to change his own brand, which,
by the way, he has I was like, you know,
I'm becoming a popular baseball YouTube podcaster. How much is
my Yankees fandom? How much would Steve Cohen offer me
to change my livelihood and become just like Mets guy
Mets Jake. And it's an interesting question. I want you

(07:56):
to play along with at home, and a lot of
you are going to be like super proud and be
like I'm I was born Yank. I was born a
Cincinnati Reds fan. I'll always be a sent My daddy
was Cincinnati Reds fan. They don't talk like that in Cincinnati.
That's not a Cincinnati accent. But I don't know if
someone came to your door and said ten million dollars

(08:16):
be a Mets fan the rest of your life. I
gotta listen to that. I got bills to pay. I'd
like to play golf on a couple of weekends. That
maybe Jan Soto wanted every bit of the eight hundred
million and the Yankees weren't going to approach that. That
he chose the New York Mets, and maybe it was

(08:36):
all money. Starting to seem like it wasn't all money.
Congratulations to the New York Mets. I texted Jolly Olive
last night has been on this show a lot. Congrats.
We have a few handful of Mets fans in the
office told them congrats. You know, last night was a

(09:00):
emotional a lot of ways. I'm a sports loser. I'm
a baseball loser. I'm addicted to it. I've started debating
more late nights if I need to live on the
West Coast because I can't stop watching sports. I'm losing sleep.
If I watch every Sunday night football game, I lose
three hours of sleep for like twenty weeks a year.

(09:21):
The rest of my life. I want to sleep Yankees games,
West Coast games. I don't know there's like an actual
equation in there that could make sense for me some
point down the road. I don't know anything in that
article there is.

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Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, okay, so Jos's surmising statement on it with Jesus
christ Hal was pretty accurate. I'll read this paragraph from
Disha's article background talking about how close the Cohens are

(11:02):
to the situation, how they make themselves very available to
basically every player and they're always around that's rare, and
talking about sein Brender's closeness with Judge specifically, Apparently Seinnbrender
doesn't share that same dynamic with many in the building,
let alone the guy who was his number one priority

(11:22):
this winter. Soto asked Steinbrenner when the two sides met
in California last month, why he didn't approach him during
this past season in the Bronx, and he wondered why
the owners didn't try to form a closer relationship with Sodo. Seinbrenner,
fairly or not, said he wanted to give Sodo his
space because he was so clearly locked in enjoying his
best career season and he didn't want to get in
the way of that. In the end, waiting to form

(11:43):
a close relationship with Sodo might have been a colossal
mistake on Steinberger's part. Interesting, So Soda wanted a close
relationship there already.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
So I think there's a couple things there. And I again,
Desha knows so much more than me. I'm I'm guestimating
off a paragraph that BBD just read to me as
I have the article up. But while I was scrolling
down the page, it froze on a picture of Deontay
Johnson on the rave. So I again my knowledge on
this article. And inside, hey, Soto doesn't want to be

(12:16):
the number two. And the Yankees gave Judge the captain's badge.
That was such a thing. They gave him three hundred
and sixty million dollars. They they may judge their guy.
He runs the clubhouse. You know we talked about in
a good light when Jazz Chisholm comes over and Jazz

(12:37):
is ecstatic and he feels part of it, and he's
complimenting how Judge has brought him onto the team. Soto.
I mean during a lot of episodes of Talking Yanks
this year, there was there was episodes where we didn't
talk about Wan Soto enough and you'd look at We'd
look at the stats at the end of the series

(12:57):
and it's like, oh, okay, Wan Soto was six for
twelve with five walks, and you're just like, God, there's
something about the way he does it that he's so
in control that it becomes expected. Maybe I need to
check myself. Maybe I don't, but I keep saying he's

(13:19):
the best hitter I've ever seen, and I don't think
I need to. Some of the stats Ted Williams, Barry Bonds,
like those are guys that people argue about being the
best hitters ever. I do think there's something too, because
maybe some way can jake people are like, wait, don't
you say, like Freddy Freeman, it's your best hitter. It's

(13:42):
where best hitter becomes an interesting discussion because Freddy Freeman
bat to ball, contact doubles, turning on home runs. If
he wants to like winning it at bat, he's up
there and batting average shows that.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
One.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So do's obviously more of an on bass guy that
I don't know. It just it becomes one of the
fun baseball discussions. So don't you know if you're thinking
about holding this over my head, like oh, Freddy Freeman,
some people said Corey Seeker. When he's right, it's like,
well you can. You can slice it a lot of
different ways. Judge has his own argument a lot of
ways to be the best hitter. Everyone tries to hit

(14:20):
home runs and Judge is so good at that. Shohey
has an argument for everything. Reminder, fastest guy in the league.
The Mets fans man uh Joe's last night texted a
video of Francessa talking which uh he said, he feels

(14:43):
like a little kid, and I was laughing. I don't
consume a ton of Francessa's content at this point, but
he had a good line. And this is actually why
I don't use I don't watch a lot of people's
content because I don't want to steal their stuff. But
I'll shout it out if they do some good. He said,
you know the little Brother Mets comparison that's been out
there and is out there a lot today. He kind

(15:05):
of spun that into you know, there's a lot of
there's a lot of nights Mets fans went to bed
and dreamt about the day they beat the Yankees, like
even going back to the Subway Series in two thousand,
like that was their chance. The Yanks beat them up
a couple of mistakes early on in that series. Piazza's

(15:26):
last swing on it, I thought that was that had
more juice to it. Mets have been the little brother
for so long, forever, forever. Saturday Night Live, they're opening sketch,
had Juan Soto in it, and he didn't see it.
A church lady classic, Dana Carvey being back. You know,

(15:50):
they made a joke and Marcello's doing Juan Soto and
it's it's good solid. One of my player comps is
Marcelo cute, short guy. You know. The church lady's talking
about how much money he's gonna get blah bah blah,
and how Wan Soda should should give some of that

(16:10):
money to the less fortunate, and he goes, oh, you
mean the Mets. Like that was on Saturday Night Live.
That's free before, that's forever. That's for the world to see.
And it was a joke. Everyone gets like, that's not
just a sports guy, Like that's when I have my
dark knights and I'm like, Jake, you should have done
some stand up along the way. And it's like, would

(16:32):
some of my sporty references just be too much? And
people would be like, I don't. That's like sports is
a smaller world than we think, because that's a lot
of what we consume if you're listening to Wake and Jake.
But people understand that joke. And now that joke might
be over because Steve Cohen came in and we said, hey,

(16:53):
this might change the Mets. The Mets went out and
they got Verlander and Scherzer and we said, oh, nelly,
this might change the Mets. Steve Cohen they pay and
they had a very METSI season, and the METSI stuff
kept happening rat raccoon mcneildor in the clubhouse. I mean,

(17:15):
there was still more stories coming out of Metsland, and
it was like, whoa is Steve Cohen regretting buying the Mets.
That was a topic we could have done. He's the
richest owner in baseball by a lot. They traded away
guys while eating their salaries, like we haven't seen a
lot of that in baseball history to get better prospect return,

(17:40):
and those prospects are now on the cusp from the
Verlander and the Shurzer trades. Luis and Helicunya. We saw
a little bit of him in the postseason, and we said,
if you're Steve Cohen, at some point you have to
make the splash. You have to make the We are
no longer the New York Mets. We are on the scene.

(18:00):
Seemed like it was gonna be Otani like Okay Sho
Heo Tani, star of the World, Babe Ruth of our time,
pitches and hits. They said, it want to be done
the Japanese market. You tie that in business wise and financially,
you can get to numbers a lot easier. Show Hey
won the Dodgers. He came up with this unique creative

(18:23):
contract that allowed them to do whatever they want, and
it is allowing him to do whatever he wants. That
that didn't happen. They were in an Yamamoto Yamoto again
for him, You're coming over to a new country. Who
knows his final decisions. Was it being in La was
it being with Show Hey. We kind of I feel

(18:45):
like we never got final answers on that it was
just the meds nets, never got like.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
A straight up like it was just.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
To play with show he that's kind of interesting, Like
the Mets were there to drive up the price and
it came down to the Yankees and Dodgers is kind
of what everyone was told there was there another piece
of that.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Hey, Dodgers offered him a lot of money, right, right,
a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
So with this free agent, a guy who is on
the Yankees, a guy that apparently, you know, the loyalties
weren't with the Yankees as some thought they would be,
that his one year with the Yankees, that hey, let's
bring him in house and show them what being a
Yankee is about. Hey, we even went to the World Series.
That's great, right, Well, if this dsh article is any sign,

(19:31):
you know, the other rumor on the internet, maybe showing
him what the Yankees are about was a bad thing.
And that's a popular conversation around the office right now.
The Yankees that go check out their front office ownership page,
it's a lot of familiar faces because they've been there
for a long time, and some of those familiar faces

(19:53):
has been nice to us, so I don't want to
throw them under the bus and Sam calling for people's heads.
But you look around at other teams front offices, and
there's a lot of change, there's a lot of recent change.
It's a lot of keeping up with the Joneses that
I could send myself down the rails of the Yankees
and one World Series win in twenty four years now

(20:14):
or whatever it is, and the Yankees were built on winning,
like that's the whole Yankee thing. That's why people hated
the Yankees. They won, they paid for players, they were
the Yankees. They were the team you didn't like. You
liked them, or you didn't like them. Our episodes and
our live streams this offseason, the phrase I keep telling people,

(20:36):
and I've shared on here before, if the Yankees win,
there's one really big fan base that likes that a lot.
If the Yankees lose, there's twenty nine fan bases that
are pretty interested in that. And it showed in our
numbers this postseason, our live streams when the Yankees lost
a lot better than when the Yankees won. Kind of sick,

(20:59):
kind of sick in the head. That for the New
York Metropolitans. This is an amazing day. And that's where
Ryan Cohen, big Padres fan that works here. Now. He
looked at me. It was in the bathroom, I'll admit it.
I was washing my hands. Okay, Rare, come on, and

(21:28):
he kind of looked at me, and he is kind
of like, you you look okay, and I was like,
I kind of am. What I explained to him is
I am such a sports fan. We have some people
here who are Yankees fans, and Yankee fans are different breed.

(21:48):
We expect to win the World Series every year, even
though we don't like I very much. Know we don't
do that anymore. When you are raised into Yankee fandom,
it's like, hey, we expect to be we expect to
be the best team every year. Go back. I can
give you some of the old George steinbern Er stuff.
Every time they didn't win the World Series, they'd come
out and say, it's a failure. Don't need to do

(22:11):
all that right now. I am a sports fan. I mean,
part of the reason I like sports is fairness. Hey
you're eleven vers our eleven, you're five vers R five.
Roll the ball out there, and hey, it's basketball. We
got a ton of short guys. Let's jack up some
threes and if they go in, we might win. You know,

(22:31):
I love seeing when it's college basketball season and there's
teams with like that one tall guy and he's like, well,
let's feed our one tall guy the rock and hopefully
that works. Baseball, there's a lot of ways to do.
It's speed, defense, power pitching obviously, and we'll get into that.
That man the New York Yankees, a franchise that's been

(22:55):
built on power hitting, The Bronx, Bombers, Ruth Judge, Peter Williams, Pasada,
go look at those Yankees lineups that won. Literally a
team that get called gets called Murderer's Row. That were
coming up on like a hundred years on, right? Is
that nineteen twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Nineteen twenty three in my head?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Did we pass the one hundred year anniversary of Murderers Row?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And we were right around it? That might get a row?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Sorry we missed one hundred years anniversary of Murderers Row.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
That's a movie that came out.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, Google giving me twenty seven, Okay, I was gonna
say that's gonna be a thing. Get ready for twenty
twenty seven that Yankees lineup won't have one Soto and
it's Murderer's row. Uh and the Mets are still getting started.
They have more team needs. They need pitching. They can

(23:51):
go a lot of different ways about it. Mets fans
kind of in due off season plans with Juan Soto
because they didn't believe it until it happens. But Lindor
Sodo Viento's Nimo Marte McNeil, Tyrone, Taylor Alvarez and Betty
in Helicunya. They traded for Siri, So like there, they've

(24:13):
got a couple more strategic moves they can do, whether
it's trades or free agency. The pitching staff Sanga Montas, Peterson,
Holmes and Blackbird expect them to bring in a little
bit more reliable pitching. Although the baseball side of this,
which not a lot of people have even gotten to yet,
I'm wondering where Sterns's head is at, because one of

(24:33):
Milwaukee's strength is like we can make pitching. Like every
year in Milwaukee they could set up a lab and
make pitching. We still see it with Milwaukee, we saw
a little bit of it with the Mets. Next year
is was Sterns's dream for this job, like, hey, you
can't create hitting, so let's pay for hitters and we'll
create pitchers. I don't know. That's just something I've been

(24:57):
thinking of that I'm interested to see the next the
next Mets transitions. With all that being said, my Yankee
side is very sad for obvious reasons, we didn't get
on Soto. I watch every Yankees game. It's part of
my job. Now. I used to do a lot of
that anyways, But it is interesting. You know, when it's

(25:20):
Saturday afternoon and there's a one pm game and they say, hey,
we're gonna take.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
The boat for a spin.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You know, there used to not be a moment of hesitation,
and now there kind of is a moment of hesitation.
I was expecting to watch one Soto for the next twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen years, watch him take some of the best at
bets I've ever seen. I watched him this postseason. I
was expecting number twenty two to be retired. Now I've

(25:47):
got Joe's McFly texting as the number twenty two curse
because of Elsbury. I don't know, I'd have to look
into it more. That's what's disappointing. You know, the Yankees
are gonna be pivot and there's not a clear path
and it's scary and some fun Yankee conversations around the
office today. Who's it gonna be, what's it gonna be?

(26:10):
In theory, they had to be prepared that Wan Soda
was gonna leave, but I don't know everyone else was
pretty shocked. If the Yankees thought they were ready to
go to seven hundred and seven to fifty million, they
probably thought they were gonna get Wan Soda right question
mark that it's very interesting to see how they're gonna
pivot because the other reveal here and Trev was hot

(26:33):
to trot on this, the Yankees kind of openly admitted
they were willing to spend X amount of dollars. The
Red Sox have openly admitted they're willing to spend X
amount of dollars. That this free agency, there's gonna be
a Xander Bogart's contract, and in a year or two,
everyone's like, jeez, what happened. And there's a lot of

(26:55):
teams at the table that have not put their chips
in yet. That man, there's gonna be a couple people
left without dance partners at the end of this one.
And I'm starting to wonder, am I gonna say that
every free agency because I said that a couple times
last year. But man, I mean Baltimore Orioles are supposed

(27:18):
to be you know, this is supposed to be a
big offseason for them. Tyler O'Neill can't be their only
move to replace Anthony Santander and Corbyn Burns.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
They got Gary Sanchez as well, so apology accepted.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They did get Gary and that'll be fun. Eight a
half mil for him. Gary scary. The Boston Red Sox kid.
You know, they changed front offices. They were supposedly in
on Soto as much as the Yankees and the Mets.
Where are they going to go? They've got assets in

(27:52):
a lot of different ways. White Sox, Cleveland, Detroit. People
thought Detroit was going to be in. I think Detroit's
like out this offseason. I mean, we'll see, but like,
let's keep them out for now. And some teams during
our trade up or during our free agency episode, I
think they were the team that was picked the most.
I'm gonna put the trade something out for now because

(28:13):
I I didn't have them in and I don't think
they want to dance with these numbers. Is Houston gonna
do something? Supposedly they have one hundred and fifty mili
out there for Bregman. That's significant. Royal's weird, Halo's weird.
Both those teams are in a mix. Like Minnesota out

(28:36):
and kind of becoming like sad quickly, Yankees super in,
Mariner's kind of in that weird, weird Barbie pile with
Kansas City and the Angels. A Rays, you're so out
even though they took a meeting with Soda do they
I'm not doing rays right now.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Rays are gonna fascinating.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Rays are gonna have a fantastic stick off season because
you know what teams would love Brandon Lowe, my god,
but they're out. Texas Rangers, I think are in the mix.
They're paying to gram Seeger and Simeon. They got some holes.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Current currently off of last year Valdi off the books
that they weren't paying for sures or. But he's there's one.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Or two more there was Heeny like, you can't rule
the Texas Rangers out. They've got probably got to move
in them. At least three two hundred million dollar contracts
on their books, whatever it is. Toronto supposedly in on
everyone always and they need they need to salvage or
try to salvage their last year of lad So I've
this is. That's the American League. Baltimore, Boston, Houston, Yankees, Texas, Toronto.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's with us ruling out the Tigers, who were in
the playoffs, had to run last here and people still
kind of.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Think A're gonna do something. We're a big market team.
I'm just wondering how the.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's with us ruling them out and calling it wide
open six.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Uh, let's say my snakes don't care. Atlanta's not out
of the mix for anything. Atlanta is very much in
the mix everything.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
They were a team in on the Willia Damas Steele.
Don't know what their final offer maxed out as offhand.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
But Cubs I'm gonna sadly put in the weird pile
for now, although they'll probably be trading. Dodgers are in
on everything. I skiped Cincinnati and Colorado, the New York Mets, obviously,
the Phillies. I just heard Shelfy yelling they're supposed to
be a breadman team. Dombrowski came out and said I'm

(30:46):
gonna do shit. That's not a direct quote, but when
Dombrowski says that watch out Pittsburgh, my god, that front
office has to be horrified right now. Horrified. These are
free agent prices. Does anyone what does Jared Jones get you?

(31:11):
What hitters are available? What cheap hirs are available? Someone
on the Diamondbacks I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And Marlin's trade Jake Berger?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Does that change their outlook? Where the padres at. They
used to give out the big contracts, Maybe they don't anymore.
I don't know. San Francisco Giants, I ran out of fingers.
They signed Willia Domas and I don't think they're done.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
They're not moving the other direction.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
The Washington Nationals were supposed to be a sneaky team
this offseason. They might pump the brakes. I mean they're
supposedly still in on Alonzo, who might be one hundred
and fifty miller north of that. So am I adding
them to the pile? I mean we hit twelve or
so teams that think they're in a lot of those

(32:05):
teams have multiple needs, and outside of the pitchers Corbyn Burns,
that would be a monumental moment for the Red Sox,
or for a couple of the teams I mentioned, like
you're bringing in a Cy Young winning number one inning
eating dog. Okay, Max free Ken, go look at that

(32:25):
player page. That's significant. After that, we're starting to get
slightly riskier with our free agents, whether it's how bregman
ages Profar's one outlier year, ta Oscar Older can't play
great defense, hits a ton Santander lol saying his OBP

(32:49):
was barely over three hundred this year. Flaherty our guy
with his bounce back season, Christian Walker's gonna be thirty
four for opening day. We have named a ton of names,
and it starts getting a little thinner after that. Alonso
Claver Torres, sure there's a trademarket out there and we'll

(33:13):
see what that looks like. Garrett Crochet, Luis Robert. There's
impact pieces to be had there. But instead of just
pay that man and let's build our team, you're gonna
have to sacrifice a chunk of your farm system that
can really set you back as a franchise if that
impact free agent isn't the guy. So Mets fans should

(33:36):
be on absolute cloud nine. They've in a way, like
I mean, I watched Wicket over the weekend. They're like
they've broken out of there, like curse, Like just by
the signing and by the way, this is whisper, This
doesn't get clipped the last the Mets have put their

(33:58):
chips all in like the Sure's Er Verlander year, all
of us were like, holy cow, the Mats, Lindor, this
has a chance to be METSI the METSI aren't. The
Mets aren't out of the woods yet.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
They've had a good free agency that we thought was
can't miss before. Supposedly there is at least what two
more big moves to happen. I believe in them right now.
I believe before the.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Hey, this could be a full change. I've talked about
this with franchises. Ownership matters, top down matters, bringing in
great players matters, And maybe the Mets are going to
be doing that and in twenty years we'll be looking
at the Soto signing is the moment that changed the
New York Mets, and we've really might like everything adds
up there. Trevor Ploof was incredible, and you know, I

(34:50):
don't like saying that. Trevor Proof was incredible talking about
Cohen's reputation a man worth twenty billion dollars and originally
before the Mets, if you did google him, he was
in like the Big Short, right, or something else that world.
That's not why you tune in here. He was involved

(35:13):
in some of the funny business, and that's how he
was known.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, there's a section of the Internet that would
say the sentence, there's no such thing as an ethical billionaire.
And he has the most billions of any.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Owner interesting sex of the internet sects. Steve Cohens now
known as the cool owner. He broke a franchise's mental
curse essentially, and that is incredible for Mets fans. And
that's why ownership in all sports, whatever the squeaky wheels are,

(35:56):
the commissioners and other owners should be invested in looking
into that a little more because it can really change
your sport. I mean Mark Cuban in the Dallas Mavericks,
like what that did for the NBA, What Steve Balmer's
done for the Clippers, I mean what Cohen's now doing
for the Mets. I mean, you can jump around. The

(36:19):
Washington football team is the most palatable. They're the Commanders
Now football team.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Was sick, not inaccurate to call him then, it's very true.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Still, they're the most palatable they've been as a franchise,
conveniently under new ownership for the first time in decades.
Like ownership matters. When you guys look at the Dallas Cowboys,
there's one guy you think of that. Do you think
he's leading the ship in the best way anymore? It's
kind of crazy looking at Jerry Jones. You know, he

(36:54):
was a King of the World owner and he's still
kind of is in a financial way. But the Boys
used to win. They'd win a lot, they'd star players,
Jerry Jones, they won in a long time that I don't know.
I don't know if you are a team that has

(37:16):
an owner you're not in love with or doesn't go
out and sign free agents. The San Diego Padres have
been the example in baseball before Peter Seidler passed away.
But my god, if you're the Chicago White Sox, you
could be the biggest budget team in the sport, and
you're not. If you're any team. The Miami Marlins make

(37:41):
me mad once a month now, and what are they
going to do in the NLS this year? Braves Mets, Phillies,
Nationals look like they have a young core and wallets
like Miami in the NBA is like one of the
coolest friends es.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's like the number one I want to live in Miami,
no state income tax if Miami, If Miami had Steve Cohen,
what do you think the Marlins team would look like?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
You think it would look like this current roster. Sure wouldn't.
Jan Soto would be there. We'd be talking about the sexy,
cool Marlins, how Miami's about to be a baseball hotbed
for decades, not talking about that ownership matters. And I
think that's what has Yankee fans questioning things the most
this morning.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Can I redo the latest Andy Martino tweet?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
He described this line of thinking as a rogue Yankee opinion.
So just a guy, presumably with the Yankees front office,
rogue Yankee opinion is they'll be fine, Sodo Judge Dominga's
defensive outfield was going to be a disaster already. Too
many mega contracts. A front office with a thirty year
track record of winning now has of winning now has

(39:01):
so much financial flexibility. Uh so you can either cook on.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
That or just.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Or that can be it.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, I mean they have a track record of regular
season winning. Hey, no qualms with the defensive outfield. If
if Soto signed, we would have been like, hey, have
you guys talked about first base yet? Maybe maybe they did,
Maybe wan so I doesn't want to play first base.
The Yankees DH slot should open up in a couple

(39:30):
of years with Stanton. But that's I mean, that's the
whole Yankee whirlwind of Okay, should they have gotten Bryce Harper?
Should they have gotten Manny Machado? Like they my biggest
my biggest fare the Yankees. Was it the twenty twenty

(39:51):
three off season or twenty twenty two when the Yankees
needed a left fielder and they just didn't get one.
I think twenty three that we were like, you know,
the Yankees are gonna get a left fielder, blah blah.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Get somebody, even if it's profile.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Figure it out, Like you know, they're they're the Yankees.
You don't, you don't. They don't really go into the
season with a hole in their lineup and a rookie
shortstop and you know, questions behind the did like no,
they're they're the New York Yankees. And then they didn't
and what did Brian Cashman, the general manager, come out
and say. He was like, well, the the market didn't

(40:27):
have any left fielders, so we didn't get one. Okay,
that's that's a huge part of your gig is to
know the upcoming markets so that you're not in a
position for that. So I'm worried that we are going
to get a very hodgepod Yankee team. And I think

(40:49):
the scary part of that is the middle twenty teens
saw a lot of hodgepod Yankee teams that did not work,
didn't really even have hope to work, but they threw
a smattering of contracts out there for McCann's and Elsberry's
that Okay, the Yankees have this money to spend on

(41:11):
what on who? And what does it look like? And yeah,
there's a road to becoming a good team. And we
did talking Yank's episodes where it was like, if they
don't sign Soto and you can get crazy creative, if
you can get Luis Robert, if you could trade for
Cody Bellinger or Nico Horner or some of the other pieces,
and Carlos Santana can be your stop gap, and is

(41:33):
Ben Rice like their pass the popular topic around the
office that John Boy kind of started is go and
get the high end pitching. Do you get a Max
Freed and then you've kind of got a nice rotation
and you could potentially trade from that depth. It's a
lot of money to invest in a rotation. For me,
that I talked about the Mets having the potential strategy

(41:55):
of let's play hitters, we can create pitchers. That would
be the Yankees doing the exact opposite strategy. I don't
know if that works. I don't know if that's what
the Mets are doing. There is not a clear path
for the Yankees, and man, I don't know. I'm having
a little bit of Yankee remorse regret because also every

(42:17):
CBA that comes up now, Hal is the guy that
like defends the small market teams, and it's like, hey,
did the Yankees help set all these rules that are
allowing other teams to get involved? And that's where a
sports fan Jake sports Jake, my first AOL user name,
gets involved and is like, well, yeah, that's how sports

(42:38):
are supposed to be. But the weird thing for young
sports Jake is I was taught there's some rules out there,
but the Yankees play by their own doesn't look like
they do anymore. And what if the Mets keep going well,
if they bring back Alonzo, what if this money is
nothing to Cohen and the tax that's named after him,

(42:59):
then what are the other owners going to be happy?
Do they care at all as long as they're getting paid? Right? So,
I don't know. I'm very nervous for my Yankees. I
think they're gonna make a smattering of moves that are
gonna be horrifying. Because Judge is thirty three for next year,
Garrett Cole is thirty five for next year. Your best

(43:21):
players are starting to enter the end of their window.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
It's why Soto is supposed to be the perfect fit
because as they are potentially aging out, he's aging in.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Maybe the Yankees are going to have a young guy
team out there, and it's gonna be Dominga's, Caleb Durbin,
Austin Wells, Anthony vol He takes the leap. There was
a youth movement in twenty seventeen that we said was
a Yankees team. We didn't know if we'd see that
again in our lifetime. A young, upstart Yankees team.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
It's like leaning on young players.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
That's what other teams do, right, But that starts questioning
the Yankees. And they have judges, they have Judge and
Cole's contract, they have rode On's contract. They were willing
to spend seven hundred and fifty mil. Uh So I'm
so interested to see up their sleeve. I just have
no idea what it is. And normally we're pretty good.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
There's not that the Yanchies ever do this. But like
it's not gonna be a reset by any mean, these
are like the camp last two years. You're supposed to
be like foresore in it.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
In that DSH article, she said, Aaron Judge runs a team. Okay,
supposedly Aaron Judge said when he was signing that they
needed to get another guy that year, and they got
rode On. That's how they ended up with him. So
what do you think Aaron Judge is gonna be telling
how right now? I don't know. I The other thing,

(44:48):
if you're a base a proud baseball in moon Soto
almost got a billion dollars to play baseball. Baseball is
doing pretty good there, and I have fully flipped. I
thought I would see a one day where baseball would
have a salary cap, because I thought a salary floor
would be so helpful to the game to make it competitive.

(45:08):
Like one Soda is gonna make fifty mil. There's gonna
be team payrolls around that. Something's off with that, it's
not competitive. At the same time, the players will never
give up a potential salary cap because of this. Wan
Soda got eight hundred, eight hundred million dollars. That's insane.

(45:29):
He was the next guy up. He's not a good defender,
Like again, he's maybe the best that I've ever seen,
and that matters a.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Lot more the two dimensions. He's of the five tools,
he's got three and these like the best at two
of those, but some.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Of the best. You'll see interested to see the next
steps of the baseball offseason. What other hitters and pitchers
benefit from this? And this sent the whole carousel spinning
because now the Yanks. I didn't think the Yanks were
in on anyone really, like maybe there was gonna be
a sneaky Oh wow, they're actually gonna do that. Now

(46:07):
they might be in on everyone. And I don't know
if your hal Steinberner and you're getting further into this
owner game and your team went to the World Series
this year, and there was some juice and people like
cal and now Cohen's in your city, gonna steal the market,
Like honestly a daydream that I keep falling into that.

(46:29):
I don't know if I like or hate. The Yankees
just go nuts. The Yankees go like they're signings that
don't make sense, but they just say screw it for
the money we could have spent on soda. We got Bregman,
we got Burns, we got Alonso. Who knows. They could.
They're the Yankees. They could. I don't think they're gonna

(46:54):
Sometimes I worry they're a little too smart for their
own good, even though that plan I just laid out
would probably be awful for them. So I don't know, man,
I'm happy for Mets. I'm shocked. I did a talk
in Yanks episode where I was like, I don't think
it's gonna happen anywhere else. I told you people here,
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And the Mets the one team that when I was
talking o Tani for a couple of years, I was like,
doesn't that make a ton of sense? Turns out it
was a year late, and it was the other guy
Juan Soto the New York met What a way to
kick off winter meetings. Uh and some good juice for
baseball going into the offseason. So, uh yeah, we're gonna

(47:35):
have to circle back on Willie and Kukuchi and Snell.
We've done Snell, but Clay Holmes Severino to the a's
was that? What was that? Nobody has a good answer.
My text my text brother Jeff about that. Let's talk

(47:59):
some foot. If you've made it this far, thank you
so much. In college football, if you're not into it,
I'm gonna give you a little nutch because this is
the first year they're doing the twelve team playoff format,
and this weekend was fun between all the debate shows
of who are going to be the last teams in.

(48:20):
It's funny whenever you do a new format finding out
the flaws of it, because that will happen, and it's
just how quickly you adjust. Because I will start off no,
let me start off with the good. I've been entertained
by college football all season. It's always been an interesting
one for me because and I had some conversations over

(48:40):
the week, like how into college football are you? Like,
do you know every team's head coached. Do you know
every team's quarterbacks. There's been a couple of videos on
this channel that show I'm known where a lot of
guys attended school. But that's a mix of the NFL
and the draft and video games and all of that.
I mean, I used to be into it. That's the

(49:01):
sports you put on. It was college football that I
was and it's where college football has lost a little
bit of its sauce that you knew the head coach,
you knew the style they played, and I usually knew
their quarterback, running back, or their best receiver, best defensive end,
their safety is going to be a first round pick,
or whatever it was. I'm not as great as I
used to be. Good good biography, good biography title there,

(49:24):
huh all. But they've expanded this playoff format that has
has hurt the purity a little bit. You know the
example my guy Riscilla would use. You know that Bama
LSU game where the winner goes to the national title
game and the loser doesn't. Some of those games have
lost their juice. But tell you what, there was a
Boise UNLV game that had more juice than that game

(49:48):
has ever had and will ever not will ever had
Arizona State, Iowa State had some juice this weekend. Georgia
Texas was five verse two and still had a lot
of juice for some seeding and pride purposes. These are
college kids, Penn State, Oregon. We got a three to
one game this weekend, Clemson SMU. How about that? The

(50:11):
Pony Express. The college football bracket is laid out and
these are your twelve teams, and I will say the
seating in order because it's kind of what makes it wild.
Oregon is the one seed. Yeah, they're the only undefeated team.
They made it through the whole season thirteen and zero.

(50:31):
Dan Lanning's their head coach. Again. I've been having this
weird thing with sports where I'm not a kid anymore
that I'm trying to view things through my kid lens.
Dan Lanning is the guy. He's done some light media stuff.
He has Oregon as a wagon. He is like the
guy right now. He's everything you want in a coach.

(50:53):
He says cool stuff he does. He's not too deep
into the weird boris isms or weird coaching lanes that
sometimes we fall into, but sometimes that ends up being old.
He's just kind of real and he's awesome, and he
has the Ducks undefeated in thirteen and zero as your
Big Ten champions. Of course, that's where college football has

(51:15):
to figure it out in the coming years, because that's
just ridiculous. And what's ridiculous is they said for the
top four seeds, you get a buye. We love that.
This is what we talk about in baseball. Reward the
best teams more, you get a buye. So the Georgia
Bulldogs who won the SEC, they are eleven and two.

(51:36):
They're your number two team in the country. They beat
Texas twice. They lost at Alabama, Sure that kind of
makes sense. They lost at all, miss one of the
borderline teams to get into this. Every other game they won,
they beat a bunch of top teams. The SEC is
still the SEC.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Great.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Your number three seed is Boise State.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Error.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Quick reminder, your boy put a Boise State College Football
Championship future bet in a couple weeks ago that I
don't have a cash out option yet, but I've got
eyes on it. Because when they set up the rules
for this new playoff format, they said that it has
to be the four highest ranked conference champions. So even

(52:22):
though they think Ohio State in the rankings is better
than Boise State. They think Penn State, they think Notre Dame, Texas.
Boise State is the three seed in this and they'll
face the winner of SMU Penn State, which I'll tell

(52:42):
you I like Boise State in that game because Boise
State's one loss was Week one to Oregon, which we
all looked at as panic or excuse me, week two
to Oregon everyone looked at as a panic, like, oh
my god, is Oregon bad this year? People were trying
to sell their Oregon stock. Turns out they had a
guy named Ashton Jinti who's gonna be one or two
for the Heisman. And Boise State has some playmakers out

(53:07):
there and they've got the guy, which in football is
a really cool thing because Boise State gets some play
action looks that are wide open throws. Their quarterbacks first
name is Maddox, named after Greg Maddox. That's cool, that's cool.
So every time he throws an accurate throw, a lot

(53:28):
of Greg Maddox references, and Jason Bennetti was on the call,
so he was doing a ton of baseball stuff, which
was fun. So Boise gets the three in your four
seed was a team that didn't know if they were
going to get in the Arizona State Sun Devils Katie
wou last episode of Waken Jake. They are your Big

(53:50):
twelve champion, which still feels weird. I mentioned they played
Iowa State and they rolled them and they look good,
so that's good for them. But either way you'd be
talking about them as the tenth seed or the ninth
overall team. And they're the top four and they get
a bye. So your games the opening first college football

(54:13):
playoff weekend and we've got a couple weeks December twentieth,
And the way they've done the schedule is fun because
they do the New Year's games, so they've got like
ten days between each game, which gives the teams a
little extra time to prep and stuff and get healthy. Clemson, Texas,
how's your orange? Check that game out? That'll be the
four PM. Texas has been so good in a good

(54:35):
bounce back year for Dabbo as Clemson wins the ACC
but they were not higher ranked than Arizona State, so
they don't get the buye. They'll get Texas, who looked
at some ugly moments against Georgia, but that's a really
good football team. Tennessee vers Ohio State, that's awesome. That
is awesome too, proud college football fan bases. Ohio State

(54:58):
feels a little down, Tennessee feels a little up. There's
times when Tennessee looks awesome. Their skill positions are electric
and their defensive line is too. Ohio State was lining
up to be one of these buys and something I
teased when it happened, and I had no idea. If
Ohio State beats Tennessee, which they are over a touchdown favorite, yo,

(55:20):
they would get a rematch against Oregon. That game in
Oregon that was back and forth between Ohio State, the
Ohio State quarterback slid to try to set up the
game tying field goal and the clock ran out. Otherwise
they were neck and neck in that game. They've got
a chance to rematch and run that back in the
Rose Bowl. Sometimes sports happens like that. Sometimes it doesn't.

(55:41):
Smu Penn State smu er Dallas back in it. Good
for them, Penn State. There's some stat that they would
have been in every expanded college football playoff for the
past like six years, which is nice and damning because
they just can't seem to win the game they need
to win, they draw a SMU. We'll watch it in

(56:05):
the winner of that game goes on to my Boise
college football champion. Bet. I like that for Boise, Indiana.
Notre Dame are in woo. They're gonna talk about that
one in the streets of Indiana for a long time.
Notre Dame over touchdown favorite winner goes on and plays Georgia.

(56:25):
So the college football playoff bracket is here. I think
they need to get rid of the conference stuff. Hey,
maybe that's too knee jerk. We always talk about a
new format and letting it play out for a couple
of years. Boise has a really good argument with Oregon
being their only loss, Arizona State getting the buy over

(56:46):
you know, Texas or Notre Dame even there's something a
little off about that. But I'll tell you what college
football still has, man, it is kids, which you can
point out in a negative way. But we don't know
how the games are gonna go. Iowa State was favored
by one point in Arizona State blew them out.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Of the water.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Anytime there's a rematch in any sport, what coach makes
the adjustment? Adjustment what player makes the adjustment, who's healthy,
who's hurt. College football I find it a beautifully entertaining product.
And it's the time of the year. This is always
so dumb, but it always feels like there's guys that
come out of the woodwork. There's Oh, there was a

(57:34):
safety I believe on Arizona State who led all defensive
backs and sacks, and I was like, I, okay, so
this guy's a Baltimore Raven. Like you know, like there's
just things you're gonna hear, and you see kind of
the best players from each conference come together for these
big games in big moments, and I really love that.

(57:57):
And then it ties into the NFL Draft, and then
it the Sundays, which let's talk about Sundays a little
bit before I talk about Shallo may On the on
the college football desk was getting a lot of love.
He ended up going four and three. By the way,
he had one pick Marshall that nobody else had and

(58:17):
everyone was freaking out or no, I think Ohio. And
then he was four and three and that's not even spreads,
that's just picking a winner. So I don't know, I
decided I'm gonna see the Bob Dylan Schalome movie, and
I'm gonna make my final decision if I'm on him
or out on him, because I think I'm gonna like
that movie because Dune currently out on but I haven't

(58:39):
watched it on the new TV yet. Wicked's good. Go
see it. They sing really well. I thought they could
have done a little more with it. They played it
a little safe, a little PG, but I understand why
they did that, Like there was some money. They could
have let Bow and Yang cook a little more and
be a little sillier, a little over the top. But
it's Wicked part one, get it.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I think I think among the people that are giving
that multiple watches, he has a lot of he has
some hidden gems in there. I mean, he's scene in
the Twitter streets.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
He is.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
He is very funny. He's he has entered a realm
of he can walk into an SNL skit and I
almost start laughing, like he is really good.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
That that's a shockingly mass appeal.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
That's where I just asked her, was like, what what
didn't you like about the movie? Just trying to see
if I have any thoughts up here? And I was like,
I would have let bone cook a little more like
there was a couple scenes that they could have really
let him eat and even do some of those kid
movie jokes that are like double entendres. They're for the kids,
miss them a little bit. They know something's up, but

(59:46):
it's for the parents, and they didn't really let him
do that. And I was also blown away by the
story because I saw the plate like six years ago.
I thought it was ten losing my mind. Well saw
it in twenty nineteen. Didn't remember the storyline at all.
I mean, I knew it was Wizard of Oz and
I knew bad Witch not Bad Witch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You basically knew the amount you went into going into
when you saw the play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
But I'll tell you spoiler spoiler, spoiler if you have
no clue when the headmaster of their Hogwarts flipped and
was part of the bad team, I was having a
bad time. I did not need that news. So go
see it. The singing's great. I'm not the biggest Ariana fan,
but she's literally like born for that role. And then

(01:00:35):
Cynthia I believe is her name, who who plays the
Bad Witch. I shouldn't say the Bad Witch, but I
guess you kind of can't I guess the whole thing, Elfie.
She crushes that final song is so good, the popular
song is so good, and yeah, the guy that dances good.
I okay, Fiero, I think I got that right. This

(01:01:00):
isn't a spoiler. Just got mad at me for this.
I tried to think a little more. And that's a
problem me and Fierro have. It turns out in all
these fantasy lands. Sometimes in fantasy lands they you know,
part of it is finding a simple idea that we
have and like, you know, flipping it on its head.

(01:01:20):
In this world and Harry Potter, you could travel through
the fireplace and it's like whoa, Okay, sure, I don't
know fire in tense, it's wizards. Who gives a crap,
Let's roll it. The library scene, which was a great scene,
great choreography, a lot of singing and dancing. I told
Jess I got a little mad, and she didn't like that.

(01:01:42):
I use the word mad because I'm not mad about it.
But in the library they had these like circular library bookcases.
It just would never work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
There's no need to have that anti functional. It wouldn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
The gravity behind it does not work, and why would
you ever need that. Like in Harry Potter they have
normal libraries Game of Thrones. Normal libraries you put books
on shelves and you find them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
They're organized.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So I said, I told Youse I was thinking about that,
and she was like, I shouldn't have asked, because they
ended up using it for very good choreography and dance
in that look. And I think that was the planning
behind it, but there was no need. I think we
figured out bookcases.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
We had it. They're like the oldest way to transfer knowledge,
So yeah, we got that system down pretty good a
long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Like the circular part of it just makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I remember going going in. I was like, oh, I
remember we did like a couple songs in my high
school choir. But it's like I don't really know that
much about like what happens in this story. Yeah, and
then I will and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It started happening. I was like, I recognize every song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
And I remembered we did. We did learn every song
ah high school choir. So yeah, I mean that part
was fun. I was like, oh, I do remember this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I was in a weird period of when Wicked was
like blowing up, blowing up like that was a huge
play huge. It just wasn't in my area at all.
That by the time I got there, people were like
shocked at how little I knew from it. And then
I heard the hit songs and I was like, yep,

(01:03:23):
I get it the slap, but I don't know. It's
not like I'm going to add that to my gym
workout routine. I don't know. It's good. Go see it
part two next year. Thanksgiving get ready, which brings us
to Sunday because the NFL action was ripped Laurn and

(01:03:47):
for those fantasy football folks out there, it was your
week before the playoffs for a lot of leagues, which
if you're in a good league, this week matters a lot.
The running joke in my league I care about that
I go on the golf trip every year is I'm
destined to finish seventh place. Depending tonight's performance by Joe Burrow,

(01:04:07):
I would be destined to finish seventh place. So there's
been a lot of jokes about that. Let's start out
on Thursday night football because holy cow, some people were
calling this the game of the year in the NFL
Lions Packers. God, that feels so long ago. Danny Campbell
fourth down Dan and some of the play dolls. Playgalls

(01:04:31):
had people freaking out because if you remember, part of
the reason they lost their playoff game last year was
aggressive fourth downs. There was a drop or two. They
go back to their well on it goff thirty two
of forty one, three touchdowns, one interception, Montgomery and Gibbs
balance on the ground but not too impressive. One touchdown

(01:04:54):
and these Green Bay Packers man Jordan Love can let
it eat, although he ends up with a weird staf line.
Josh Jacobs another three touchdown game. Divisional teams. These teams
know each other well, and Campbell didn't want to give
the ball back, so he gambled a couple times on
fourth down late when he didn't have to. Jake Bates,

(01:05:14):
the Lions kicker insert joke here, they get it done.
They are twelve and one, twelve and one. The Packers
are nine and four. Both these teams are great and
the Lions I know I've said this before, but twelve
and one it's super bowler bust like. That's not We're

(01:05:36):
having a good year. Let's build upon it. It's super
bowler bust man, and it's going to be interesting in
the big moments come the postseason. The fourth down plays.
You know, Dan Campbell said he looked back on last
year and he said he wished he went for it
more on fourth down. It's part of their identity. Now
what predicaments is that going to get them in? What

(01:05:57):
advantages is that going to get them? They're the defense
is so banked up. Go look at the Lions injury report,
but they are finding a way to continue to get
it done. And Packers are going to be a scared
team this postseason. I think our guy Panic said, if
it's Packers Eagles this postseason, he likes the Packers over them.
I don't know what that's about, really, but the Lions

(01:06:20):
are twelve and one in the class of the NFC.
That brings us to set Sunday with Jaguars Texans No.
Ten to six, ugly game. I picked up Jaguars defense
in a couple fantasy weeks. This leekue as a streamer
just because you didn't rack up points, but they contributed

(01:06:41):
no Will Levis, I was giving myself some mini pats
on the back. I was like, for a late round
quarterback Kentucky work ethic, he might have to take away
those pats on the back. The Jets find a way
to lose a game. Let me know if you heard
that before. Like, I don't even need to dive into this.
Rodgers had moments where he looked great again. The Dolphins

(01:07:03):
had some moments where they looked great again. Jets kick
a field goal to take the lead with thirty seconds left.
They can't cover the kickoff well, Dolphins make a couple passes,
Sanders kicks the field goal. We're going over to a
and then John U. Smith had no catches in regulation.
I think he had four or three on the final

(01:07:24):
drive of overtime. Another memorable fantasy thing closer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Jordan Romano and the Philadelphia Phillies are an agreement on
a contract.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Okay, good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Fits there any guy that feels like it could have
said Yankees as the next team would have been. Yeah,
it is a little bit air out of the tires,
But Phillies are a fit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Good, weird closer energy for Jordan Romano. I like that.
I think he is a sneaky beard guy. I don't
know how sneaky it is, but I think Philly it
might come out a little more. We might start getting
that Brandon marsh shelthy Beard. Good for them. Dolphins six
and seven, the only AFC team that's out that really
has a chance to come in. They're winning games with Twua.

(01:08:05):
Tyreek has a big game again. They're the McDonald's. Play
a good team, play a bad team. Stuff is insane.
They've got Texans, Niners, Browns, Jets, gonna be close one,
Jim uh Saints Giants. I'll say, no, fourteen to eleven.
What are we doing? Giants, get the field goal, look

(01:08:28):
to tie it up at the end, it gets blocked.
Both these teams were trying to lose. Drew lock stat
line twenty one for forty nine, like it's almost hard
to do that in today's NFL that it's like get
the ball out. Who am I to say that? But
that game was hideous. Vikings Falcons, the Kirk Cousins revenge game.

(01:08:50):
We're going back and forth for a bit. A twenty
one to nothing fourth quarter, Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson.
Three touchdowns for Addison, two for Jefferson, Sam Darnold with
the massive game. Falcons continue to hurt and I keep
putting myself on the rope for no reason. Vikings eleven

(01:09:10):
and two. Eleven and two everything I said about the Lions,
Vikings have to feel really good about their team and
man like one of those teams is going to have
a quick, quick postseason out. Don't know who it is yet,
interested to see the matchups. Vikings roll in that game.

(01:09:33):
Falcons do you turn to Penix? The fan base wants it?
Interesting spot for them. Panthers Eagles. The storyline from this
game was some cap bet three point one million on
the Eagles just to win. So if they did it,
get your conspiracy theories ready. It was a slog at
the start. Eagles find a way to get it done.

(01:09:54):
Eleven and two. They're still my Super Bowl favorites as
of today. Still Hiller's Browns. You're always expecting some hitting
in something ugly Stealers end up running away with. This
one is twenty seven to seven. At one point, uh
Russ is cooking, The defense is cooking. The Steelers are

(01:10:15):
ten and three, not getting respected as a Super Bowl favorite.
I think we all know why, but I don't need
to say why, because maybe it's not right. Raiders Buccaneers.
Bucks beat the Raiders. They're seven and six. They're a
fun team to watch of the mediocre teams. Go watch
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Raiders are two and eleven. They
are starting to line up for Schaudeur Sanders. Maybe I

(01:10:39):
think they have the top pick after this week, them
and the Giants. A lot of internet jokes about bringing
in Dion and Shaudur and running it. That would be
fun content. Seahawks beat the Cardinals. This one surprised me
a little bit. My Cardinals have been playing good ball.
I like the way, I like their coach a lot.

(01:11:02):
Feels like they're clicking and getting better. They got Seahawks,
and the Seahawks bounce back to eight and five. They
won their first three, they lost their next three. They
are now in a four game winning streak and a
lot of division Niners, Cardinals, Jets, Cardinals. So good for
those Seattle Seahawks that looked for a second like they
were heading the wrong way. They're eight and five and

(01:11:25):
running that division. Charbonne, their backup running back, got the
nod with no Kenneth Walker, and he looked really good.
I don't know. I mean, once you look at all
the playoff teams on paper, I don't want to say
the Seahawks are a team you're like, WHOA, don't want
to play them in a way you don't want to
play them. They can give you hell for a day.

(01:11:48):
They got some weapons on offense. Bill's Rams. Holy smokes.
The Rams come out punching in the mouth in the
first half twenty four to fourteen. They punch him in
the mouth in the third, but the Pills came roaring back.

(01:12:11):
This game ends up forty four to forty two. Early on,
it had some of those I always reference that Mexico game.
I think it was Rams Chiefs a couple of years back.
There was like fifty one to forty eight. That was
just so back and forth. Josh Allen looked like he
had the power of the gods on his side, that
he was going to do everything to wild in the victory.
Three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns for Josh Allen. Matthew

(01:12:34):
Stafford looked incredible. Kyron Williams looks great in one of
the better TD running backs in the league. Phuka Nakua
is a monster. Go check out his sideline catch. I'd
say a toe tap, but it's like a double toe tap.
There's this new wide receiver catch where they're jumping, catching

(01:12:57):
the ball and then just stopping their body because it's
the only way for them to get their feet on
the ground and touch it. It was insane. Khalil Shakira
is really good. I didn't know that. I just thought
it was kind of one of these bills guys like
watch out this week. He can accelerate and Josh can
get him the ball. He looks good. This was a

(01:13:19):
fun one that people were shocked. Buffalo came back and
made it that close. The Rams huge for them, and
people are wondering if the Rams hype train is gonna
get excited again, if it's a Stafford one last ride,
if McVeigh is that guy, If Kup and Nakua are
out there with their tailbacks, we'll see, We'll see. I
don't think they can dance with the big dogs, but

(01:13:42):
they just showed on any given night, any given Sunday,
if you will, they can dance with the best. Niners
had the bounce back game they were looking for. Isaac
Grendo huge in fantasy culture as he is now your
Niner starting running back. It's a lot of speed, a
lot of power to touchdowns on the ground for him.

(01:14:02):
Rock Purdy, the best he may have looked all year
in George Kittle, kind of unguarded by your Chicago Bears,
who had four yards in the first half whenever the
Caleb train seems to leave the station, and his final
stats look fine because he got two touchdowns late that
didn't really matter. I mean, this game was a route

(01:14:26):
Caleb was supposed to be like generational. I don't know,
you guys know, my Caleb thermometer is a little off,
and maybe it's just a Bear's curse situation. But the
Mets just got rid of Theirs. It all ends Sunday
Night Football, and the Chiefs win nineteen to seventeen because
that's what they do. That's just what they do. Crazy

(01:14:50):
how they keep winning these games that are so close,
back to back nineteen to seventeen wins over the Raiders
and the Chargers. I don't know. I'll be honest. I
missed the second half of this game because Juan Soto
signed with the New York Mets and it was time
to go to church. So Bengals Cowboys tonight. Joe Burrow,

(01:15:11):
who was putting together this amazing season, but the Bengals
are done. I need him to not go Ham for
personal reasons, which means he probably will Bengals Cowboys. We
might get an ugly shootout. The over under is forty
nine and a half. These teams haven't been playing a
lot of defense, and I don't know. I'm getting closer

(01:15:32):
and closer to the product of football, which is surprising
me a little bit. And excuse me, NBA. I went
to the Knicks game last Thursday. My buddy Tim had tickets.
Shout out Tim. Fun to watch, I mean fun to
watch any game in the garden in person. Nick's good.

(01:15:53):
Karl Anthony Towns is huge. He was in our office.
No big deal, he's been here investor. I think the
Karl Anthony Towns thing is people have ignored how big
he truly is. He is massive, like broad. You know,
his posture is a little weird, so I think, But
like I think if he stood up like fully straight,

(01:16:15):
you're like, that's He's the biggest guy on the court.
He's the thickest guy on the court. He can shoot
and he can drive. He was getting up and down
the court really well. Also, the Knicks have been winning
so dominantly that Jalen Brunson didn't play in three straight
fourth quarters. That's pretty cool, especially when Tibbs's reputation is

(01:16:35):
running guys into the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
There was like a tweaked his back day, right, was
that that game you were at?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Think so? And the other thing is the slight part
of that game. The other thing that needs to be
noted it was the Charlotte Hornets, who it's looking like
a rebuilding year. No Lamello at the time. My buddy
Tim is not jokingly a Hornets fan, which was funny
watching him watch the game. Learn the name. I don't

(01:17:04):
know how to say his first name, but last name mechic.
He's a dog for them, thirty year old European that
first quarter who scared me? Point forward fourteen and twelve.
He is everything you want out of year. Euro plays
pretty basketball, hits the shot when he needs, is always
making the pass he's trying. I told Tim, I can't

(01:17:24):
wait for people to watch him on the Spurs because
that's that's how this works. Randon Miller hit a cool shot.
The Hornets were a really tough watch. Everything I was
complimenting about Jalen Brunson not playing the third quarter and
how cool is that this game was a route The

(01:17:46):
Knicks won the third quarter thirty eight to sixteen. Me.
Cal Bridges played forty seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
That's nuts, man, that's this was not his confidence up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
This was not a game og Nanobi played forty This
guy has a real injury history. So that kind of
blew my mind in the end, cause what are we doing?
This Hornets team had no hope for the final twelve
And yeah, I was telling my buddy Tim NBA it's

(01:18:21):
just tougher and tougher to sink my teeth in, hopefully
just earlier in the year, Like he was shocked, I
don't get into the NBA Cup, And I was like,
I kinda there's a lot of moving parts. The floors,
the courts don't really do it for me. I like
that they're identifiable, but it's also just like it's a lot.
I get it, Like it's cool for video games and stuff,

(01:18:45):
like all the kids setting their court to pacers NBA
Cup court like knock yourself out, but it's a little jarring.
In a few years, maybe it's cool, like you always
know when the NBA Cup is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I get that, Like the like one notch back, like
refined version lands in a good place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I just I don't really have the bracket in my
head yet. I don't really have the scoring differential stuff
in my head yet. Again, I haven't dove into it.
And that time of year is really tricky for me
because I'm like coming out of a baseball coma and
football is comfortable and I understand what's going on, but
NBA struggling to sink my teeth into some of the

(01:19:28):
stuff Yoki is doing is insane. What he's doing in
three quarter spans are better than a lot of guys
are doing in four quarters. NBA Cup bracket and then hey,
I'll say the same thing. I'm a Yukon guy. I'm
I think I'm going to Yukon game at the end
of this week, Yukon verse Gonzaga. I haven't watched him

(01:19:51):
play yet. I think I mentioned my Thanksgiving kind of
horror fest. Whereas with the wife's family and I got
YouTube TV trial for two days, the only TV was
right outside our parents bedroom. Maybe I haven't talked about
that on here, but yeah, it was a tough setup
that I couldn't really watch my Huskies and Maui that
I've just been watching their highlights NBA Cup. Okay, I've

(01:20:13):
got our bracket now, Bucks, Magic, Nix, Hawks, Thunder Mavericks, Rockets, Warriors,
and this starts when tomorrow tomorrow. Okay, so I'll try
to watch that. I'm into this part of it. I
the how we got here. I struggled with.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
The pool play is complicated and it's not just straight
up like divisions.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Yeah, you gotta be locked in for the pool play
and I'm not. I'm not locked uh So, Hey, that
was a lot. We could still get breaking baseball news,
whether Corbyn Burn signs or Max Freed, whatever it is.
We're still on call for baseball. We still have a
lot of other signings to get to. Tyler O'Neal's fit mention,
the Sevy thing mind blowing the athletics. They don't have

(01:21:02):
a home. A fun, sneaky time in the sports world,
so glad we got to enjoy it together. We will
be back here Wednesday at the latest, maybe even before then.
And thanks to Uncle Dan

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Bac and Jaco's production of Dan Patrick Productions, John Boy
Media and Workhouse Media,

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