April 9, 2025 • 42 mins
Join host Chris Finn as he chats with Scott Stallings, a three-time PGA Tour winner celebrated for his incredible fitness transformation. Scott dives deep into his evolution from struggling with fitness to becoming one of the fittest players on the PGA Tour. He shares the habits that shaped his success, the direct link between fitness and golf performance, and the mindset needed for steady improvement. Scott also opens up about the challenges of injury recovery, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the complexities of nerve injuries and the rehab process for professional golfers. With candid insights, he reveals how he adapted his game, maintained peak performance, and developed resilience through setbacks. Plus, he shares advice on building longevity in golf and the ongoing learning required to thrive both on and off the course. This episode is packed with inspiration, practical tips, and insider knowledge for anyone interested in fitness, resilience, and mastering the sport. Tune in now!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chris fit is Ruindy the game, teaching these guys to
get bigger and stronger and faster.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're gonna plade him.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A fantastic christ. It doesn't get old. Welcome to the
Golf Fitness Bomb Squad. My name is Chris Finn. I'm
your host as always, and today we got a special
guest with us. UH three time tour winner UH fitness
probably the smartest fitness guy on tour. Scott Stallings is
(00:32):
with me today. Scott, Welcome to the Bomb Squad.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me as well.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I mean, so it's it's it's fun to your point,
have lots of golfers instructors on and it's not a
high bar I guess to be the fittest guy uh
in golf, you know, relative to other sports necessarily out there.
But you, I mean you, I mean we'll get into
how you got there and all that, but I mean
you are definitely known as you know, I mean you
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massive transfermtion. Obviously you got a marathon coming up now.
Very few guys on tour I think they can say
that they're they're doing that. But you know, we'll obviously
get to all that, but before we do, you know,
for anyone, it just who doesn't know your story, like,
might just get her on just kind of quick, you know,
ten thousand pot view how you got to the tour,
what it was like for you, and we'll just kind
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of go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, the fittest on tour. It definitely took a hit
last week with Ryan Gerard's comments about holding the umbrella.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That was tough and actually funny trade wed we trained
Ryan since he was twelve here, that one was kind
of a funny one for us.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I sent I was sent like that video like a
hundred times, is like you have to get back on tour. Yeah,
and uh so I don't know him at all or
anything like that, so and understand that, you know, everyone
has like weird nuanced stuff that they do, like especially
when it's bad weather. So definitely give the guy benefit
(01:57):
of the doubt. But it definitely took any golf fitness
comments is like, man, maybe we're not athletes and so
but anyway, but man, I'm a husband and a father,
have two kids. My wife and I've been married eighteen years.
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In August, sixth grade son and third grade daughter, Finn
and Milly and play on the PGA Tour the last
fourteen years, you know, kind of a long career. I'm
super thankful for and just had the weirdest year of
my life last year Houston. A year ago is when
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Friday afternoon, my coach was caddying for me. We were
joking about this the other day. He was like, hey,
remember a year ago walking down the tenth Fairway and
I felt like I hit my drive pretty good, and
he said, hey, man, like, how'd you get that? I
was like pretty solid, like pretty great, And He's like,
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you just had one hundred and fifty seven mile an
hour ball speed. And I was like, ah, man, maybe
it's maybe just like misread or whatever. He goes, No,
I'm pretty sure it was right, and he said, actually,
all your speeds like he was just sort of keeping
track of it, just kind of like seeing some funny
numbers come out, obviously knowing now, like I was just
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kind of battling just an inevitable just disaster. Yeah, and
then I was like, give me one more hole, give
me one more hole. And it was like a perfect
like two nineteen front left pen, you know, wind just
slightly off the rights, like a perfect five iron and
I just flushed this thing and it comes up like
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twenty yards short, and he was like, You've had enough.
And he's like, we can keep doing this all day,
he said, but like I was like posing, like I've
showed you, and it's like I looked over and he's
just like, I think you have a problem. Yeah, And
you know, so that kind of set the tone and
was able to kind of uncover that I did have
(04:03):
sort of a mess going on in my arm and
my shoulder and everything. So that's kind of what I've
been dealing with the last year or so and been
really thankful for the opportunity to be home and be
with my family, and you know, really thankful for the
long career that I had and understand that the work
it took to get there, and obviously the work is
gonna take to get back there and you know, play
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competitive at a high level. So it's been a very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Year for sure. And it's not the first time you've
obviously had kind of physical stuff, you know, while you've
been on tour. Obviously there was the massive transformation you
made where you I think it was from my understanding obtus,
I'll let you tell the story more so, but just
super fatigued. And that kind of led into a lot
of the entry into the fitness side of things that
(04:48):
how long ago was that? And then we obviously, well
we'll loop back here to the shoulder, and a lot
of our listeners will be very curious of all the
specifics and now you're rehabit and all that stuff. But
you know, let's talk about the kind of the fitness
any of what kind of was the impetus for that?
You know, initially, yeah, it was. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I just turned forty last week and I was about
to turn thirty and just truly looking at it as like,
man like I am missing the boat here, like something
like I'm not the husband I should be. I'm not
the father I should be. I'm not the And it
wasn't just like you know, it wasn't like excess or whatever.
It was just sort of like no playing whatsoever. It
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was just fly by the seat of my pants, and
you know, you know, come play six weeks in a row,
come home, take one day off, go right back out.
You know, there was no idea of rest. There was
no idea of like sort of getting away and separating
yourself from the game, and I understand, and it was
just sort of just run myself into the ground. And
then like you know that world that you know you
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can only be good at three things, and of those
three things, you can only be good at one at
a time. Like a man, I had like eight, and
it was like just slowly try to catch them all,
not necessarily would try to get a back up in
the air, just don't drop them on the ground, you know.
I sort of started asking some questions and truly trying
to figure out like what that looked like. Man, it
(06:10):
was like, there's no I mean, I had some scary
stuff kind of the beginning, you know, doing some blood
tests and different things like that to try to really
make sure there wasn't anything like crazy wrong. Ultimately found
out that I had just sort of opened up Pandora's
box of all these like little like either small like
decisions or you know, lifestyle things as far as sleep, diet, nutrition, training, hydration, recovery,
(06:38):
like just countless things that I was just sucked at
all of them pretty much, that's the easiest way to
say it. And probably yeah, probably, yes, the floor was
infinity and the ceiling was nowhere to be seen. We
were just trying to get back to base and we
didn't even know where that was. But I, uh, I
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had my trainer pt you know, truly one of my
closest friends on Earth, Adam Curly has been He's seen
every variation of me possible, from you know, very very first,
you know, coming in once a week too, like hey, man,
I think you're training too much to you know, every variation.
(07:23):
And he's sort of been with me the last you know,
ten plus years on tour and now kind of this
past season. It's weird. I was like, man, I actually
could see you work a little bit. Even though that
he's probably one of the main reasons why I've been
able to play as long as I have. Now, like
he's in charge of like the PT and the recovery.
I have some great people helping me in Knox. I'm
actually in one of the guy's offices. These are his kids.
(07:46):
I just finished my own PTE this morning. But I mean,
he was the first person I was like, man, I
need some help. I don't know what this looks like.
Next thing, you know, we spent I never looked at
a food label in my life. We spent like three
hours at a Whole Foods in Santa Monica, and I
was like, if this is it, I don't know about
(08:07):
like I've been a part of the grocery store. I
didn't even know exists that. I've never been in the
Whole Foods in my life. And uh so that sort of,
you know, kicked it off. And you know, just like anyone,
if someone asks, like, what's the one thing I can do,
it's like, man, find something, make it a habit, build
off of it, and then everything sort of falls into
place after that. You can't sleep, eat, train, recover, Like
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especially when you have no understanding what that looks like,
you can't be good at all. But you just sort
of got to chip away. And you know, it doesn't
just happen overnight. And you know, just the same thing
with golf too, Like you don't just happen like it's
sort of you know, you find little things and start
to build off of it and start to realize like
characteristics and you know, swing, things of your swing and
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things of your body. You know, either things you do
great and continue to build off of it, or things
maybe you struggle with and you start to understand the
why and then you can kind of tackle a little
bit easier instead of Man, I want to be the
greatest driver, chip or putter. You know. Ever, it's like
that's not really a thing Like that sort of just
evolves from just the same thing like we talked about
(09:12):
before that time, repetition and intention to detail. Like if
that's sort of the mindset that you take yourself into
whatever you come in contact with, like it's gonna be
hard not to be successful, especially if you surround yourself
with people that are either gone before you or you know,
have a little bit of expertise in certain areas of struggle,
(09:32):
and you know, whether that's golf or training or life
or kind of all. And I felt like I've worked
really hard, but I've also surrounded myself with people that
are way smarter than me, and I just ask them
just relentless questions, you know, some with a good intention
and some just based off pure ignorance. As far as like, man,
(09:55):
am I head down the right path here? And I
remember when I with the guys and when I started
this idea in October that I was going to run
the Boston Marathon. I remember sitting with Adam and our
good buddy doctor Kevin Sprouse, who's always been a huge
part of this whole injury process and recovering everything. And
(10:17):
I said, man, I think I'm gonna run a marathon,
and they just both looked at me, like we knew
it was going to be something, we just didn't know
what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The marathon wasn't on the board yet.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We were like, we knew when your doctor was starting
to give you your hitting progression and you know, when
you're like what he thought it was going to take
to you know, really return to playing with the best
players in the world. We knew you were going to
do something. We just didn't know what exactly. It sort
of like this sort of fell into the range of
what we thought.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's hilarious, And I think, what your your point of
surround yourself with smarter people? I mean, and I honestly,
I always find that the smart ones do that they're
home there. There's a humility and just a humbleness about
people that like, I want to be the dumbest guy
in the room. I want to learn from people who
know more than me. Otherwise I'm not growing And what's
the point. And you know, obviously, you know you make
the switch. You know, it sounds like early thirties and
(11:04):
I had at thirty, I had open a heart surgery
side of similar kind of like change in life and perspective,
as I'm sure to you you did. What you know
for you is specifically like I've seen the nutrition side
and introduction to whole foods and what does do with
these labels mean? What sort of extra I mean, did
you just kind of like slowly get into the exercise
(11:25):
side of things? Did you just jump right in? I mean,
how did you kind of manage that progression while still
playing and handling? Obviously has your body changed, I'm sure
your game changed, And like what I like for you,
that was.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
A weird scenario because it wasn't like I just like
take a year off and be like, hey, let me
sort this out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yea exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I was still doing it while I was playing. And
you know, I think any person that does something at
a high levels like oh I can handle all this
like and then next thing, you know, you lose fifty
pounds and all the stuff that's happening and all that
is like the evolution of you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
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and you know sort of you know, building off on
the other side of that was pretty wild. And I
mean that the training stuff. I remember my very first
workout with Adam. It was twenty five single skip jump
ropes three by five yt W TRX and then like
a honestly running would be an embarrassing terminology of what
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this was. But you know what was that anchorman yogging
or whatever he was saying. That's pretty much what I did.
I mean, it was like it was a poor effort,
to say the least, and then it was like some
med ball slam thing and I was like, oh gosh,
I'm exhausted, and then yeah, sort of in there, but
it was you know, in my mind, I'm like, I'm
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killing it, and now looking at it now, like I mean,
I'd do more than that before I warm up to
play on tour, like exactly, like and so, but everybody's
got to start somewhere, and I mean, I am the
first verson I will never pass judgment as far as
someone trying to find the best version of themselves. You know,
I was just super thankful that I had people come
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along and just kind of put me in the right direction,
sort of protect me from myself and you know, put
me in the spot of where truly I understood, like
you know what led to what, and kind of following
along the progression as far as how some decision you know,
can you know help the short term and some division
might it might have short term benefits, but long term
and just really understanding what that looks like and longevity
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and you know everything this Like just like I said,
I turned forty last week, and I mean I truly
hear people say that I feel better at forty to
do at thirty, like I'm the poster child, like I
actually do. Yeah, I mean like I did some of
my training runs this morning and it was like, I
mean literally I'd had a heart attack at thirty if
I did some of the stuff that I'm doing at forty.
(13:56):
And just understanding that, you know, it doesn't have to
be this big wanting like drastic change, like you need
sustainable change, and you know it's always said it doesn't
just tappen overnight. And I mean I'm just a perfect
example of just slowly so but surely chipping away and
you know, making a plan that you can wake up
and make it part of a.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Habit, stacking bunch of of little winds, having them snowball
and and as you know, I think there's a lot
of guys listening who are either starting it's similar you know,
forty to fifty sixty. Can we have some guys in
an eighty that are like, you know, I just want
to play another five years? Like how do I get there?
And so they're starting fitness journeys like you did. What
would be some insights you could give them for you,
(14:36):
you know that you experienced as you were starting that,
and how it will impact their golf game, whether words
of encouragement of it'll get better or like hey, be
ready because this is going to be pretty cool. As
you know this stuff changed, you know what was how
would you relate your experience, you know, to kind of
help those guys?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think anything it's like you know, you know, it's
like the beginner golfer, like you see so much roomates
so fast, and just like anything a person that's never
worked out, like all of a sudden, like you remember
those like old Biggest Loser shows and the guys like
fifty pounds in a week. It was like holy cow,
like is that guy gonna be all right? Yeah? You
(15:14):
just see like and and I think where people have
a realistic view as far as what like incremental improvement
looks like, you know, it's all based off of like
what you came in with. Like that guy is a
thirty handicap that you know grips it upside down and
you know his club faces you know backwards, yeah, you know,
at at waist high. And it's like, okay, we.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can thirty handcap thirty handicap with a backwards club's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but just you know what I mean, like I
know exactly that's not gonna be very hard to fix
that guy. But then you see like that you know
scratch golfer, you know that's got like one hundred mile
an hour clubhead speed. And then all of a sudden,
like you take that guy from one hundred to one
oh five or to like, man like one ten, like
that guy's whole life changes, you know, even if he's
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got the skill to be a scratch golfer at that
low of a clubhead speed. Man, like, you just start
to realize of what that like the level it's gonna
take that guy at a much higher skill set than
the guy at a thirty. It's gonna look like one
guy's working way harder than the other. Even though it's
just what they came what they walked in the door with.
And the same thing in fitness too, Like I mean,
(16:23):
I got this wild bunch of dudes that work out
of my house every single day, and what they walk
in it with is I mean across the board like
super super fit, you know, first time they worked out
in a long time, and you know, sort of everywhere
in between. And I think just seeing the way that
you know, guys consistently, you know, make themselves available to
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put themselves in uncomfortable situations, whether golf, fitness, life whatever,
I mean, all those rules apply and having a realistic
view a really good goal. But the more and more way,
I feel like so much sometimes people just you know,
short themselves big time when they make hey, I'm going
to do this and then all of a sudden it happens.
It's like I never got past this in my mind,
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and I told a lot of people probably one of
my biggest regrets in my career is one of my
biggest goals ever was to make the Tour Championship. And
I did it in twenty two and I got there
and it was like I did it, and it was
like I completely took for like lost the fact that
I was like, oh, man, I have another tournament to play,
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and it was like, man, I short, like I achieved
something I would really tried hard for. And then I
got there and it was like, I mean, I'm not
saying I didn't enjoy the week, because I knew how
hard I worked to get there, but I think in
the time looking back to it, I just was not
as near like I mean the week before at BMW,
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like man, I was ready to fight somebody, Like I
was just ready, locked in, ready to go. I think
that more. I just sort of let my foot off
the gas and you know, sort of lost that intent
and sort of just took it in a little bit
more than I probably should. And I think you see
that a lot. It's like I want to you know.
(18:13):
I had one guy that came into the gym and
he's like, man, I need to start building, you know,
I need to lose some weight. I need to do this,
I need to do that. And he came in for
like a month and didn't work out. All he did
was drink coffee and walk on the treadmill while the
other guys are working out. I was like, man, you
got to build a habit. First, I said, you start
working at five am, and you ever worked out in
the last five years of your life, You're gonna feel
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like crap, I said, But start to build the habit,
understand what you would just like to wake up early,
start to move your body around, and the next thing
you know. I mean, he's probably the highest attender as
far as attendance percentage of my house. Like I lived
there and he beats me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's easy.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, So I haven't been in there with him as
much as I normally am one with my with my
arm and one. Now I've spend most of my time
time running currently. So I'll be back in after April
and get back in there, but I'll get these random
text about five forty five in the mornings, like we
see you in there.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, that's funny. But what I think you bring up
an important point of like just mindset and you know
there's a where I heard it, but there's there's behind
the mountain you can see, there's there's another mountain that
you can't see right now. But once you climb the mountain,
you know to your point on the Tour Championship, you
got there and then it was, but like weren't prepared
for the next mountain. I think I see guys do
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that all the time on the fitness side there. You know,
initially they come in they're like, hey, I just want
my backpaan to get get rid of get rid of
my back pain. And then you're like, okay, got rid
of your back pain. And then they're like, well what now,
And I'm like, well, you know you want distance, you
want to what do you want? Like the options around.
But I think it's such a common human thing where
you just think of what is that one thing I
can see and just not thinking beyond that. I think
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that's such a common thing to bring to light. But
I'm curious, Scott, when as the body was transforming, did
you see like different thing? Did your swing change? Did
you did your swing speed change? Did your like did
you see changes in your performance that like you had
to adapt for. I know we had a guy that
was having shoulder issues and like he started seeing all
(20:13):
of a sudden his path started going left because he
was swinging steeper because his reil shoulder was tighter. You've
heard her stories about guys where they kind of will
make a body change and they'll see impacts. Did you
see any of that?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I felt like I could do a little bit more
with a little bit less. I guess that's the easiest
way to say. I think there's a bunch of pattern stuff.
You know, when you're big and heavy and don't move
well like you sort of like pit flat footed and
just like a bunch of throw like a big kind
of steep timing hold off. It was kind of the
(20:45):
easiest way to say it. So I think as I was,
I was able to move and turn more like I
still sort of diverted into that kind of old pattern
that was sort of ingrained my whole life. Yeah, and
sort of halfway stuck in between, which is probably not
a great place to be, but definitely really felt like,
(21:05):
you know, the last few years had really started to
kind of own what I did. I've always been a
really good iron player, uh you know, kind of really
out of the middle of the bag. Anytime I can
match the ground, I've tend to be pretty successful. Kind
Of if I sort of said up, I drove it decent,
I was going to have a chance, And that's sort
of been the you know, the good, bad and indifferent
(21:28):
part of my game. But that's who are a pattern
related to. So as I'm away from the game a
little bit and to have a chance to really sort
of reset some of that stuff, especially with a completely
repaired lead shoulder, it's like, man, I might have a
ability to really crank on it. And now, like I mean,
so much of the stuff we did all the traditional
(21:51):
rehab from shoulder and now it's really strengthening and getting
used to a new motor pattern. As my bicep tenons,
it's a one ur pit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Now, I say, what did you have done? What was
the injury.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That had I tore my completely tore my labor and
my bicep tending you know on the inside or sorry,
I've kind of my cameras backwards. This bicep tending tore
off the top where the attaches in the labor. And
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so I did it at the fifth hole of the players,
I was outside of the farry bunker, kind of in
the grass, hitting up against and ball comes out club
just full extension, you know, kind of waist high, a
kind of an offward angle and just absolutely smoked the
lip of the bunker and the grass lip and you know,
just wrecked my arm for sure. And you know, just
(22:47):
full extension everything away from you and shoulders up pops
and then my elbow hyper extended and my owner nerve
popped out, which was that's not pleasant, knowing what I
know now, Like I would rather have my shoulder surgery
ten times in a row than this elbow. Yeah, And
(23:09):
I think, you know, I tried to rehab for a
little bit, and you know, I saw a few doctors
and I was like, man, when I when I left Houston,
I said, ah, man, we'll give it a couple of
weeks and just have it calmed down. And you know,
it was like I hadn't really swung. And it was
like two weeks later and I went and hit my
first shot and it had sort of just adhered to
(23:31):
everything in there, and I went hit this lob wedge
and it went literally like further right than it did straight,
and my shoulder just would drop. And so ended up
having a great surgeon, doctor grimcheck up in Cincinnati and
does a lot of uh, you know, shoulders and elbows
and baseball. And I had a couple of friends that
had seen him, and uh, he was awesome. And he's
(23:52):
a golfer two, which was very helpful. And he was
just very adamant, like, hey, like we're gonna we know
you're elbows, but we think that there's a chance that
if your shoulder gets back in the proper position, it
might pull your nerve back in. You're right through the
groove where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And man, I didn't know I had a transposition in November,
and and to be honest, that was by far the
most difficult part of the of the process, just because
anything any person in health, wellness, PT, training, doctor, whatever,
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you start dealing with the nerve, especially with the lead
hand that deals with the club face, I mean you are.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Like, yeah, literally anything could happen. And so I thought
I was going to have about a two inch decision.
When I woke up, I had about seven and the
nerve was almost on the complete opposite side of my joint.
And then it completely popped out of the cubittle tunnel.
And you know, obviously when people extend there a it
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would just have a ton of movement and in any
time I would as I was probably four months postop
and I had just started like chipping and pitching, just
started like getting a club back in my hand. I
just said, man, I just don't think this is where
it's supposed to be. My arm's starting to feel really good,
but man, anytime I straightened my arm, my hand is
on fire. And they went back in and scanned it
(25:23):
and it's like, man, your nervous not where it's supposed
to be. And so they went in and did that
in November. I mean that was a battle. I mean
it was a long time of not being able to
fill your hand and a bunch of scar tissues sort
of bounded up in there. And so but you know,
makes you more resilient, it makes you wanted a little
(25:43):
bit more. And it just took a little bit. I
sort of had in my mind of how fast, just
like you were talking about, you know, the people coming
in the gym or people coming in on a driving
range or something like that. I sort of walked in
with a pretty cut and dry injury. You know, a
couple of pens to screw and you know, do the
rehab and know you're on your way. And then I
had sort of had that progression from my elbow and
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basically every person I told that to laughed. It's like
you start dealing with a major nerve and a major
joint for someone that uses their lead arm every day
of their life. It's like, man, you might have a
little bit longer here than process. So I learn more
about I've learned more about the biomechanics of a golf
swing and how you know all that stuff wrist, elbow, shoulder,
(26:29):
hand like, all those different things than I ever wanted
to know. So I know enough to be dangerous for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I'll tell you what, I've never talked to a pro
golfer who knew what the cubital tunnel was. So you're
anatomy IQ is skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Mine had to be completely restructured. They had to. They
basically rebuilt it. So I got a gnarly scar. He
docs told me. He's like, man, just tell people you
threw way too many sliders in Little League. Yeah. Right,
so even though I'm right handed, in my scars left,
but he's like, man, just just sort of like, do
(27:02):
this a bunch of baseball and be like, oh, you
had Tom John Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I used to throw I used to throw a hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why I play golf now.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah exactly. So I would love for you shure just
kind of, you know, not to get super detailed just
about the rehab. I think a lot of people don't realize,
you know, particularly for talking lead shoulder lead, I mean
you you know to you know, double whammy, shoulder and
elbow in terms of that, you know that your rehab
is not just on the shoulder, right, you're talking, you're
(27:30):
and you've mentioned working on your patterns. But yeah, I think, yeah,
I preach it all the time from a soapbox, but
hearing it from a guy on tour saying like, yeah,
it would be cool to hear you know, working on
your hips and working on like grow other ways to
take stress off of those joints, or you know, how
involved is the swing coach, you know, as you're starting
to move back to that sort of a thing and
(27:51):
having that whole team together, I think is a cool
element that necessarily the average amature doesn't necessarily have.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, there's a big difference between like getting back to
normal life, getting back to playing golf, and getting back
to playing against the best players in the world. Yeah,
and I think with that mindset it kind of goes
into like this traditional PT route from a recovery standpoint
is not going to look normal, Like you're not like
(28:17):
you know, you know, some days it's thirty minutes, some
days it's three hours, and it just kind of depends.
And now we're throwing an element in that has not
been a part of it, with the hitting progression stuff
that it's just sort of like, man, like how much
can the joint handle? What is your hand? And you know,
I'm still just hitting off a mat let alone, Like
(28:38):
you start hitting off grass and like really realize just
the jarring motion of what that does to like lead risks, elbow,
shoulder and all that stuff. Like the repairs are great,
but a little bit there's a lot of mental components
in there too, of like man, throwing a I help
some guys. I'm actually wearing the Tennessee thing today, but
(28:58):
helps some guys over at ut And it just rained
the last couple of days and watching some guys just
dig some wedges out of the end of the grain
bermuda and I'm just like that makes me nervous. It
makes you shiver, especially as a person that's like hammered
the leading edge in the ground my whole career. Like
I mean, that's why I made my living off of
(29:19):
And it's like I know I'll eventually get there, but
right now it just seems like a pretty distant thing.
But I mean, you know, there's the traditional you know,
all the modalities, the scraping, needling, cupping, everything. My body
sort of just like at the end of the week
just sort of looks like gross. Yeah, swimming with my
(29:42):
daughter over spring break and she's like, can you put
a shirt on? She's like, you look like you got
hit by octopus.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, with all the cuffing marks. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So we do a lot of lateral line stuff, you know,
a lot of range of motion, and you know, with
with him that has been great. Adam, it's sort of
like leading the charge. You have a couple of groups
here in Knoxville. We have a six five PT and
the physio lab, you know, one sort of just standard
modality stuff like Adam's gone, and then uh, a six
(30:12):
five PT is a little bit more from a biomechanics
start start to add some golf stuff in and sort
of you know, treat retreat and you know prepare. You know,
one day I hit and then go and PT and
then one day I PT, then hit and sort of
like training all in there. So it's a it's so
unique blend and there's a there's a lot of like
(30:35):
hypotheticals in there. It's like, all right, this feels good,
we can progress. If this feels bad, let's go on there.
And there was one element with my elbow that was
unique and just with the scar. I mean it was
so I managed down to the bone. So just dealing
with all the nerve stuff in there and you know,
stretching all that out. Any scar work just sucks. I mean,
(30:57):
avoid the entrapment and uh yeah, yeah, you know, there's
a lot of just biting down on something while this
ad he's the lady that sort of helps on the
scraping side. She's this tiny little woman and she just
breaks this thing out and just starts getting in my
elbow just like get a full body sweat.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, cold sweat starts even just when she takes it out,
before she even touches you.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Probably so, but again, like it's sort of the same
mentality like finding people that are smarter than you. You know,
obviously I trust my whole career in Adam's hands, and
you know, had a great experience with the doctor and
you know the team around just just sports, you know,
kind of just be able to ask questions and create.
It's like, man, you sure this feels good? Like are
you ready to progress to the next thing? And I
(31:40):
remember the first ball that I hit and when all
this started, like everyone just sort of held their breath,
myself included, just like I have no idea what this
is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Uh that's so true because you know, being on the
rehab side, like when we've rehab guys and you know,
we've rehabbed one of the fastest guys in the world,
and it's the same thing. You do all the work
like sounds like what you're doing right, you're like prepping
or doing all of the can you handle the volume?
You know, based on the way to the club about
FASTI swinging Matt versus her? And then you get to
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that point, as you know on the professional side, and
you're like, all right, mathematically this should work. And then
then the athlete goes and hits, and to your point,
everyone on the on the medical side is literally like,
I hope we didn't screw this up. I hope we
didn't screw it. And then like you'll hit and I
don't know if you saw it, but like we're always
like good.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Noe, Yeah, Like I hit like six balls, and I
hadn't said anything, and it was more like I was
not going to have an immediate reaction, and I didn't
say anything for like five or six and then these
balls are going like thirty yards yeah, and everyone's not
saying anything, and I was like, I think we're all right,
But it's all the stuff that you collective exhale, Like
(32:53):
I hadn't thought about a ball count or the number
of balls that I hit my entire life. And next thing,
you know, you're like, if you do till me that
like thirty balls would seem like this. While day I
was like, thirty balls doesn't seem like I've done anything.
But realizing like what going over the course of like
eight nine months of not doing it and having you know,
pretty significant joint surgery and realizing like just the reaction
(33:18):
in this front like lead forearm, like it feels like
I have two forearm bones right here, just in just
the tightness of what that just the reaction of like
when it goes wants to hit down the turf. And
I've always been a real strong face guy, and so
that thing is coming in like this, yeah, exact action
down in and you know, so seeing that part and
(33:41):
learning all right, this is sort of what I have
to do, and you know, retraining my warm up and
you've sort of just been your body aware. You'll kind
of cure what ails you when you're you're going to
warm up and you'll kind of be ready for anything
when you go play. And you're now sort of learning,
all right, if I'm gonna go hit, like, I gotta
really make make sure like scap engagements probably you know,
(34:03):
making sure that thing is you know, back up and down,
up and under me. I really wanted a kind of
tendency to like get up high. I've been a high
left shoulder guy my whole life too, so there's some
pattern in there and now there's some surgical things in there,
and so I like that. So being very cognizant of,
you know, when I make sure all that stuff's engaged
before I go hit, and you know, really trying to
(34:26):
relearn what that looks like as as far as something
I haven't really thought about my whole life. And it's
been a good journey to have and you know, really
uh interesting to see some of the progression. I hit
a couple of balls the other day and some of
our guys that you tease like, ah, man, like that
doesn't look like you don't know what you're doing. And
I was like, what did y'all think it was gonna
(34:47):
look like? And you know, you want some truth to
either get a really young like kindergartener or get some
college kids and they'll tell you, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I got I got three under eleven. So yeah, there's
there's always truth there.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So I think, you know, that's sort of what it
looks like. I mean, that's obviously there's a lot more
detail in the day to day, but that's sort of
the you know, the shortest you know, story version of
sort of what a weekend and week out looks like.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, And I think that's important for people to hear
because I think the average amateur, you know, they're going
to go you know, they if they had you know,
even if they just had the labor room and the biceps,
you know, never mind the elbow. Most amateurs wouldn't put
up with that. You're absolutely going back from it's your career.
But you know, most of them, they'll go to the
regular rehab to your point, and then they're like they'll
(35:37):
get discharged because the insurance says they can reach over
their head and they you know, and they're like okay,
and the doc will be like, okay, you're good to
go play golf, and it's like, yeah, no, not at all.
You're like not even closed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you definitely have. Like I remember when I got
to like full Selection and Maddie the girl she's like,
this is when you would be checked off.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I was like what yeah, and she's like, you know
the baseline for like what is back to normal? I
was like, I was like, I just started to be
able to put my shirt on by myself, like a
week ago.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, now you check the box.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You can beat dis charted, and you're like, holy cow.
So I've learned a lot as far as that and
hopefully be able to kind of like, you know, the
tell the story. I was like, man, like they're like,
there's back and then there's better, and I think, you know,
any opportunity to deal with adversity and try to not
trying to find a chance to use it to come
(36:36):
back better than you were is sort of like a
waste of a great opportunity, and and that's sort of
the way I've looked at it. It's definitely been longer
than I would have thought. I remember the first time
I saw my doctor and he sort of looked at
He's like, man, you're a mess. He's like, you did
(36:56):
this playing golf. And I showed him how I did it,
and he's like, yeah, yeah, I can see that that
makes sense. And he's like, man, I might never hit
out a ferrite bunker again. So but I think just learning,
you know, kind of all the way through and kind
of seeing what what that looked like has definitely made
(37:17):
it maybe realize, like truly how much I love the game,
and you know how much I'm thankful for the opportunity
I had to play as long as I have. You know,
there's still some fire in there to come back, but
really utilize the opportunity to come back really ready to play,
and use the time of way to build up as
best I possibly can and come back ready to go.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Sure, and you probably even realize it, but when you're
you mentioned you know the word longevity, and that's such
a important word for guys over forty, but particularly like fifties,
and over forty is kind of like that, and I
call that the bridge years. You know, we look at
all of our data forty one tends to be in golf,
and stuff kind of falls off the cliff, you know,
when you're mentioning the longevity and you're sharing with people
(38:01):
you know and educating like what it does actually take
to get back to golf after surgery. It's not when
the insurance company says, okay, you're good and that there
is a lot more to do to it. And because unfortunately,
what we end up seeing is we see the guys
who get checked off, they get discharged, they go play
golf and then they reinjure themselves or they're like shocked
that they can't hit the ball as far as they
(38:21):
used to know. I thought my shoulder was face.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, the insurance told me that at full flection or
whatever it is, you know, whatever that range motion.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Ever, and I remember that was kind of the one
thing I had some of the biggest trouble with. I
mean I was in that brace for almost ten weeks, yeah,
and I mean nothing was really moving very well, and
just kind of deal with all that and just it
was funny seeing is like this would be the point
where they tell me I could go play, and she's
(38:55):
like almost like we would tell you just to like, hey, man,
go on the course and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Just ease into it.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And like I feel like we're a long way away
from that.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, exactly so, but I know that's that's that's important
for you, just for people to hear, and especially from
a guy like yourself on tour, you know, top players
in the world, like there is more to it, and
I think unfortunately there's in the insurance world, it's like, oh,
that's all we can do for you, best of block,
and that there there is more that you can do.
(39:27):
You know this guy I want to don't want to
take all your time when you're busy. Appreciate you coming
on the show today. And for people that you know
that are listening, is they're kind of like a final
piece of advice you could give them, particularly for that
you know, guy that's looking for more longevity just wants
to like loves playing the game and dealing with body
breaking down.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Mm hm, and say two things, if you ask any
of my guys or whatever help at u T I
would say not a matter of if. But when like that,
it goes for every thing can be applied to everything.
You know, Hey, did you train today? It's like, yeah,
like I did, like, that's just part of my day. Yeah,
(40:10):
or and then uh, I guess when you can know
and you know, ignorance is non excuse, and there's a
lot of things that you know, whether it's you need
somebody to come alongside you and help you open up
that scary closet that may be not scary but you
don't really know, you know whether and that applies to everything, life, golf, whatever.
(40:31):
We had one guy last year and literally probably one
of the worst shippers I have ever seen on planet Earth.
Literally I mean waist tie almost face pointing at the
ground and now he's top forty in the world widger
and literally like came alongside and was like, man, it's
not as scary as you think it is, but you
until you actually open the door and realize like there
(40:54):
actually is like light in there. I think that's where,
you know, just making yourself a little bit more vulnerable
and finding people that are better than you. And uh
I actually had a chance to practice with him this morning,
and I was just like, holy cow, man, Like the
difference in what he was capable of in November to
come now in March a year later is just truly
(41:17):
mind blowing. Of just seeing of him just incrementally chat
chipping away and finding that so well, I guess when
you can know and not a matter of if, but when.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
That's amazing, wise words from a wise man he's been
through a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I guess I guess there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I still have to text Ryan to give them good
mort time about that. But uh, but Scott, I can't
thank you so much for coming on. Uh what Uh
if people want to follow you, what's the best place
for them to kind of keep up with you? And
then just your road recovery and when you're back up
on tour.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I guess social media Instagram. I feel I struggle calling
it X. I mean yeah, Twitter is still yeah, stuff
like that. I turned forty. I turned forty in a
couple months. I'm right there with you. Yeah, we got
some cool stuff coming out with you know, some of
my sponsors starting to build back, you know, the marathons
in three weeks, So we have some cool things coming
(42:16):
up with that. How I've utilized just training for something
I knew nothing about, and how I've learned just a
lot as far as building me back to playing again.
So it's been pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Cool, all right, we'll make sure we put all that
in the show notes for everybody, and Scott, thanks so
much for hanging out with me here today, and everyone
else listening, thanks so much for hanging out with me
here on the golf in this pomp squad, and we'll
catch you on the next episode. Thanks guys, perfect, Thanks
goot Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah man, anytime I appreciate
Chris fit is Ruindy the game, teaching these guys to
get bigger and stronger and faster.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're gonna plade him.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A fantastic christ. It doesn't get old. Welcome to the
Golf Fitness Bomb Squad. My name is Chris Finn. I'm
your host as always, and today we got a special
guest with us. UH three time tour winner UH fitness
probably the smartest fitness guy on tour. Scott Stallings is
(00:32):
with me today. Scott, Welcome to the Bomb Squad.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me as well.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I mean, so it's it's it's fun to your point,
have lots of golfers instructors on and it's not a
high bar I guess to be the fittest guy uh
in golf, you know, relative to other sports necessarily out there.
But you, I mean you, I mean we'll get into
how you got there and all that, but I mean
you are definitely known as you know, I mean you
(00:58):
massive transfermtion. Obviously you got a marathon coming up now.
Very few guys on tour I think they can say
that they're they're doing that. But you know, we'll obviously
get to all that, but before we do, you know,
for anyone, it just who doesn't know your story, like,
might just get her on just kind of quick, you know,
ten thousand pot view how you got to the tour,
what it was like for you, and we'll just kind
(01:20):
of go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, the fittest on tour. It definitely took a hit
last week with Ryan Gerard's comments about holding the umbrella.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That was tough and actually funny trade wed we trained
Ryan since he was twelve here, that one was kind
of a funny one for us.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I sent I was sent like that video like a
hundred times, is like you have to get back on tour. Yeah,
and uh so I don't know him at all or
anything like that, so and understand that, you know, everyone
has like weird nuanced stuff that they do, like especially
when it's bad weather. So definitely give the guy benefit
(01:57):
of the doubt. But it definitely took any golf fitness
comments is like, man, maybe we're not athletes and so
but anyway, but man, I'm a husband and a father,
have two kids. My wife and I've been married eighteen years.
(02:19):
In August, sixth grade son and third grade daughter, Finn
and Milly and play on the PGA Tour the last
fourteen years, you know, kind of a long career. I'm
super thankful for and just had the weirdest year of
my life last year Houston. A year ago is when
(02:40):
Friday afternoon, my coach was caddying for me. We were
joking about this the other day. He was like, hey,
remember a year ago walking down the tenth Fairway and
I felt like I hit my drive pretty good, and
he said, hey, man, like, how'd you get that? I
was like pretty solid, like pretty great, And He's like,
(03:01):
you just had one hundred and fifty seven mile an
hour ball speed. And I was like, ah, man, maybe
it's maybe just like misread or whatever. He goes, No,
I'm pretty sure it was right, and he said, actually,
all your speeds like he was just sort of keeping
track of it, just kind of like seeing some funny
numbers come out, obviously knowing now, like I was just
(03:21):
kind of battling just an inevitable just disaster. Yeah, and
then I was like, give me one more hole, give
me one more hole. And it was like a perfect
like two nineteen front left pen, you know, wind just
slightly off the rights, like a perfect five iron and
I just flushed this thing and it comes up like
(03:43):
twenty yards short, and he was like, You've had enough.
And he's like, we can keep doing this all day,
he said, but like I was like posing, like I've
showed you, and it's like I looked over and he's
just like, I think you have a problem. Yeah, And
you know, so that kind of set the tone and
was able to kind of uncover that I did have
(04:03):
sort of a mess going on in my arm and
my shoulder and everything. So that's kind of what I've
been dealing with the last year or so and been
really thankful for the opportunity to be home and be
with my family, and you know, really thankful for the
long career that I had and understand that the work
it took to get there, and obviously the work is
gonna take to get back there and you know, play
(04:25):
competitive at a high level. So it's been a very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Year for sure. And it's not the first time you've
obviously had kind of physical stuff, you know, while you've
been on tour. Obviously there was the massive transformation you
made where you I think it was from my understanding obtus,
I'll let you tell the story more so, but just
super fatigued. And that kind of led into a lot
of the entry into the fitness side of things that
(04:48):
how long ago was that? And then we obviously, well
we'll loop back here to the shoulder, and a lot
of our listeners will be very curious of all the
specifics and now you're rehabit and all that stuff. But
you know, let's talk about the kind of the fitness
any of what kind of was the impetus for that?
You know, initially, yeah, it was. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I just turned forty last week and I was about
to turn thirty and just truly looking at it as like,
man like I am missing the boat here, like something
like I'm not the husband I should be. I'm not
the father I should be. I'm not the And it
wasn't just like you know, it wasn't like excess or whatever.
It was just sort of like no playing whatsoever. It
(05:27):
was just fly by the seat of my pants, and
you know, you know, come play six weeks in a row,
come home, take one day off, go right back out.
You know, there was no idea of rest. There was
no idea of like sort of getting away and separating
yourself from the game, and I understand, and it was
just sort of just run myself into the ground. And
then like you know that world that you know you
(05:49):
can only be good at three things, and of those
three things, you can only be good at one at
a time. Like a man, I had like eight, and
it was like just slowly try to catch them all,
not necessarily would try to get a back up in
the air, just don't drop them on the ground, you know.
I sort of started asking some questions and truly trying
to figure out like what that looked like. Man, it
(06:10):
was like, there's no I mean, I had some scary
stuff kind of the beginning, you know, doing some blood
tests and different things like that to try to really
make sure there wasn't anything like crazy wrong. Ultimately found
out that I had just sort of opened up Pandora's
box of all these like little like either small like
decisions or you know, lifestyle things as far as sleep, diet, nutrition, training, hydration, recovery,
(06:38):
like just countless things that I was just sucked at
all of them pretty much, that's the easiest way to
say it. And probably yeah, probably, yes, the floor was
infinity and the ceiling was nowhere to be seen. We
were just trying to get back to base and we
didn't even know where that was. But I, uh, I
(07:01):
had my trainer pt you know, truly one of my
closest friends on Earth, Adam Curly has been He's seen
every variation of me possible, from you know, very very first,
you know, coming in once a week too, like hey, man,
I think you're training too much to you know, every variation.
(07:23):
And he's sort of been with me the last you know,
ten plus years on tour and now kind of this
past season. It's weird. I was like, man, I actually
could see you work a little bit. Even though that
he's probably one of the main reasons why I've been
able to play as long as I have. Now, like
he's in charge of like the PT and the recovery.
I have some great people helping me in Knox. I'm
actually in one of the guy's offices. These are his kids.
(07:46):
I just finished my own PTE this morning. But I mean,
he was the first person I was like, man, I
need some help. I don't know what this looks like.
Next thing, you know, we spent I never looked at
a food label in my life. We spent like three
hours at a Whole Foods in Santa Monica, and I
was like, if this is it, I don't know about
(08:07):
like I've been a part of the grocery store. I
didn't even know exists that. I've never been in the
Whole Foods in my life. And uh so that sort of,
you know, kicked it off. And you know, just like anyone,
if someone asks, like, what's the one thing I can do,
it's like, man, find something, make it a habit, build
off of it, and then everything sort of falls into
place after that. You can't sleep, eat, train, recover, Like
(08:30):
especially when you have no understanding what that looks like,
you can't be good at all. But you just sort
of got to chip away. And you know, it doesn't
just happen overnight. And you know, just the same thing
with golf too, Like you don't just happen like it's
sort of you know, you find little things and start
to build off of it and start to realize like
characteristics and you know, swing, things of your swing and
(08:52):
things of your body. You know, either things you do
great and continue to build off of it, or things
maybe you struggle with and you start to understand the
why and then you can kind of tackle a little
bit easier instead of Man, I want to be the
greatest driver, chip or putter. You know. Ever, it's like
that's not really a thing Like that sort of just
evolves from just the same thing like we talked about
(09:12):
before that time, repetition and intention to detail. Like if
that's sort of the mindset that you take yourself into
whatever you come in contact with, like it's gonna be
hard not to be successful, especially if you surround yourself
with people that are either gone before you or you know,
have a little bit of expertise in certain areas of struggle,
(09:32):
and you know, whether that's golf or training or life
or kind of all. And I felt like I've worked
really hard, but I've also surrounded myself with people that
are way smarter than me, and I just ask them
just relentless questions, you know, some with a good intention
and some just based off pure ignorance. As far as like, man,
(09:55):
am I head down the right path here? And I
remember when I with the guys and when I started
this idea in October that I was going to run
the Boston Marathon. I remember sitting with Adam and our
good buddy doctor Kevin Sprouse, who's always been a huge
part of this whole injury process and recovering everything. And
(10:17):
I said, man, I think I'm gonna run a marathon,
and they just both looked at me, like we knew
it was going to be something, we just didn't know
what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The marathon wasn't on the board yet.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We were like, we knew when your doctor was starting
to give you your hitting progression and you know, when
you're like what he thought it was going to take
to you know, really return to playing with the best
players in the world. We knew you were going to
do something. We just didn't know what exactly. It sort
of like this sort of fell into the range of
what we thought.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's hilarious, And I think, what your your point of
surround yourself with smarter people? I mean, and I honestly,
I always find that the smart ones do that they're
home there. There's a humility and just a humbleness about
people that like, I want to be the dumbest guy
in the room. I want to learn from people who
know more than me. Otherwise I'm not growing And what's
the point. And you know, obviously, you know you make
the switch. You know, it sounds like early thirties and
(11:04):
I had at thirty, I had open a heart surgery
side of similar kind of like change in life and perspective,
as I'm sure to you you did. What you know
for you is specifically like I've seen the nutrition side
and introduction to whole foods and what does do with
these labels mean? What sort of extra I mean, did
you just kind of like slowly get into the exercise
(11:25):
side of things? Did you just jump right in? I mean,
how did you kind of manage that progression while still
playing and handling? Obviously has your body changed, I'm sure
your game changed, And like what I like for you,
that was.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
A weird scenario because it wasn't like I just like
take a year off and be like, hey, let me
sort this out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yea exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I was still doing it while I was playing. And
you know, I think any person that does something at
a high levels like oh I can handle all this
like and then next thing, you know, you lose fifty
pounds and all the stuff that's happening and all that
is like the evolution of you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
(12:08):
and you know sort of you know, building off on
the other side of that was pretty wild. And I
mean that the training stuff. I remember my very first
workout with Adam. It was twenty five single skip jump
ropes three by five yt W TRX and then like
a honestly running would be an embarrassing terminology of what
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this was. But you know what was that anchorman yogging
or whatever he was saying. That's pretty much what I did.
I mean, it was like it was a poor effort,
to say the least, and then it was like some
med ball slam thing and I was like, oh gosh,
I'm exhausted, and then yeah, sort of in there, but
it was you know, in my mind, I'm like, I'm
(12:52):
killing it, and now looking at it now, like I mean,
I'd do more than that before I warm up to
play on tour, like exactly, like and so, but everybody's
got to start somewhere, and I mean, I am the
first verson I will never pass judgment as far as
someone trying to find the best version of themselves. You know,
I was just super thankful that I had people come
(13:13):
along and just kind of put me in the right direction,
sort of protect me from myself and you know, put
me in the spot of where truly I understood, like
you know what led to what, and kind of following
along the progression as far as how some decision you know,
can you know help the short term and some division
might it might have short term benefits, but long term
and just really understanding what that looks like and longevity
(13:36):
and you know everything this Like just like I said,
I turned forty last week, and I mean I truly
hear people say that I feel better at forty to
do at thirty, like I'm the poster child, like I
actually do. Yeah, I mean like I did some of
my training runs this morning and it was like, I
mean literally I'd had a heart attack at thirty if
I did some of the stuff that I'm doing at forty.
(13:56):
And just understanding that, you know, it doesn't have to
be this big wanting like drastic change, like you need
sustainable change, and you know it's always said it doesn't
just tappen overnight. And I mean I'm just a perfect
example of just slowly so but surely chipping away and
you know, making a plan that you can wake up
and make it part of a.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Habit, stacking bunch of of little winds, having them snowball
and and as you know, I think there's a lot
of guys listening who are either starting it's similar you know,
forty to fifty sixty. Can we have some guys in
an eighty that are like, you know, I just want
to play another five years? Like how do I get there?
And so they're starting fitness journeys like you did. What
would be some insights you could give them for you,
(14:36):
you know that you experienced as you were starting that,
and how it will impact their golf game, whether words
of encouragement of it'll get better or like hey, be
ready because this is going to be pretty cool. As
you know this stuff changed, you know what was how
would you relate your experience, you know, to kind of
help those guys?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think anything it's like you know, you know, it's
like the beginner golfer, like you see so much roomates
so fast, and just like anything a person that's never
worked out, like all of a sudden, like you remember
those like old Biggest Loser shows and the guys like
fifty pounds in a week. It was like holy cow,
like is that guy gonna be all right? Yeah? You
(15:14):
just see like and and I think where people have
a realistic view as far as what like incremental improvement
looks like, you know, it's all based off of like
what you came in with. Like that guy is a
thirty handicap that you know grips it upside down and
you know his club faces you know backwards, yeah, you know,
at at waist high. And it's like, okay, we.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can thirty handcap thirty handicap with a backwards club's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but just you know what I mean, like I
know exactly that's not gonna be very hard to fix
that guy. But then you see like that you know
scratch golfer, you know that's got like one hundred mile
an hour clubhead speed. And then all of a sudden,
like you take that guy from one hundred to one
oh five or to like, man like one ten, like
that guy's whole life changes, you know, even if he's
(16:01):
got the skill to be a scratch golfer at that
low of a clubhead speed. Man, like, you just start
to realize of what that like the level it's gonna
take that guy at a much higher skill set than
the guy at a thirty. It's gonna look like one
guy's working way harder than the other. Even though it's
just what they came what they walked in the door with.
And the same thing in fitness too, Like I mean,
(16:23):
I got this wild bunch of dudes that work out
of my house every single day, and what they walk
in it with is I mean across the board like
super super fit, you know, first time they worked out
in a long time, and you know, sort of everywhere
in between. And I think just seeing the way that
you know, guys consistently, you know, make themselves available to
(16:46):
put themselves in uncomfortable situations, whether golf, fitness, life whatever,
I mean, all those rules apply and having a realistic
view a really good goal. But the more and more way,
I feel like so much sometimes people just you know,
short themselves big time when they make hey, I'm going
to do this and then all of a sudden it happens.
It's like I never got past this in my mind,
(17:08):
and I told a lot of people probably one of
my biggest regrets in my career is one of my
biggest goals ever was to make the Tour Championship. And
I did it in twenty two and I got there
and it was like I did it, and it was
like I completely took for like lost the fact that
I was like, oh, man, I have another tournament to play,
(17:31):
and it was like, man, I short, like I achieved
something I would really tried hard for. And then I
got there and it was like, I mean, I'm not
saying I didn't enjoy the week, because I knew how
hard I worked to get there, but I think in
the time looking back to it, I just was not
as near like I mean the week before at BMW,
(17:51):
like man, I was ready to fight somebody, Like I
was just ready, locked in, ready to go. I think
that more. I just sort of let my foot off
the gas and you know, sort of lost that intent
and sort of just took it in a little bit
more than I probably should. And I think you see
that a lot. It's like I want to you know.
(18:13):
I had one guy that came into the gym and
he's like, man, I need to start building, you know,
I need to lose some weight. I need to do this,
I need to do that. And he came in for
like a month and didn't work out. All he did
was drink coffee and walk on the treadmill while the
other guys are working out. I was like, man, you
got to build a habit. First, I said, you start
working at five am, and you ever worked out in
the last five years of your life, You're gonna feel
(18:33):
like crap, I said, But start to build the habit,
understand what you would just like to wake up early,
start to move your body around, and the next thing
you know. I mean, he's probably the highest attender as
far as attendance percentage of my house. Like I lived
there and he beats me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's easy.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, So I haven't been in there with him as
much as I normally am one with my with my
arm and one. Now I've spend most of my time
time running currently. So I'll be back in after April
and get back in there, but I'll get these random
text about five forty five in the mornings, like we
see you in there.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, that's funny. But what I think you bring up
an important point of like just mindset and you know
there's a where I heard it, but there's there's behind
the mountain you can see, there's there's another mountain that
you can't see right now. But once you climb the mountain,
you know to your point on the Tour Championship, you
got there and then it was, but like weren't prepared
for the next mountain. I think I see guys do
(19:30):
that all the time on the fitness side there. You know,
initially they come in they're like, hey, I just want
my backpaan to get get rid of get rid of
my back pain. And then you're like, okay, got rid
of your back pain. And then they're like, well what now,
And I'm like, well, you know you want distance, you
want to what do you want? Like the options around.
But I think it's such a common human thing where
you just think of what is that one thing I
can see and just not thinking beyond that. I think
(19:51):
that's such a common thing to bring to light. But
I'm curious, Scott, when as the body was transforming, did
you see like different thing? Did your swing change? Did
you did your swing speed change? Did your like did
you see changes in your performance that like you had
to adapt for. I know we had a guy that
was having shoulder issues and like he started seeing all
(20:13):
of a sudden his path started going left because he
was swinging steeper because his reil shoulder was tighter. You've
heard her stories about guys where they kind of will
make a body change and they'll see impacts. Did you
see any of that?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I felt like I could do a little bit more
with a little bit less. I guess that's the easiest
way to say. I think there's a bunch of pattern stuff.
You know, when you're big and heavy and don't move
well like you sort of like pit flat footed and
just like a bunch of throw like a big kind
of steep timing hold off. It was kind of the
(20:45):
easiest way to say it. So I think as I was,
I was able to move and turn more like I
still sort of diverted into that kind of old pattern
that was sort of ingrained my whole life. Yeah, and
sort of halfway stuck in between, which is probably not
a great place to be, but definitely really felt like,
(21:05):
you know, the last few years had really started to
kind of own what I did. I've always been a
really good iron player, uh you know, kind of really
out of the middle of the bag. Anytime I can
match the ground, I've tend to be pretty successful. Kind
Of if I sort of said up, I drove it decent,
I was going to have a chance, And that's sort
of been the you know, the good, bad and indifferent
(21:28):
part of my game. But that's who are a pattern
related to. So as I'm away from the game a
little bit and to have a chance to really sort
of reset some of that stuff, especially with a completely
repaired lead shoulder, it's like, man, I might have a
ability to really crank on it. And now, like I mean,
so much of the stuff we did all the traditional
(21:51):
rehab from shoulder and now it's really strengthening and getting
used to a new motor pattern. As my bicep tenons,
it's a one ur pit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Now, I say, what did you have done? What was
the injury.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That had I tore my completely tore my labor and
my bicep tending you know on the inside or sorry,
I've kind of my cameras backwards. This bicep tending tore
off the top where the attaches in the labor. And
(22:24):
so I did it at the fifth hole of the players,
I was outside of the farry bunker, kind of in
the grass, hitting up against and ball comes out club
just full extension, you know, kind of waist high, a
kind of an offward angle and just absolutely smoked the
lip of the bunker and the grass lip and you know,
just wrecked my arm for sure. And you know, just
(22:47):
full extension everything away from you and shoulders up pops
and then my elbow hyper extended and my owner nerve
popped out, which was that's not pleasant, knowing what I
know now, Like I would rather have my shoulder surgery
ten times in a row than this elbow. Yeah, And
(23:09):
I think, you know, I tried to rehab for a
little bit, and you know, I saw a few doctors
and I was like, man, when I when I left Houston,
I said, ah, man, we'll give it a couple of
weeks and just have it calmed down. And you know,
it was like I hadn't really swung. And it was
like two weeks later and I went and hit my
first shot and it had sort of just adhered to
(23:31):
everything in there, and I went hit this lob wedge
and it went literally like further right than it did straight,
and my shoulder just would drop. And so ended up
having a great surgeon, doctor grimcheck up in Cincinnati and
does a lot of uh, you know, shoulders and elbows
and baseball. And I had a couple of friends that
had seen him, and uh, he was awesome. And he's
(23:52):
a golfer two, which was very helpful. And he was
just very adamant, like, hey, like we're gonna we know
you're elbows, but we think that there's a chance that
if your shoulder gets back in the proper position, it
might pull your nerve back in. You're right through the
groove where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And man, I didn't know I had a transposition in November,
and and to be honest, that was by far the
most difficult part of the of the process, just because
anything any person in health, wellness, PT, training, doctor, whatever,
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you start dealing with the nerve, especially with the lead
hand that deals with the club face, I mean you are.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Like, yeah, literally anything could happen. And so I thought
I was going to have about a two inch decision.
When I woke up, I had about seven and the
nerve was almost on the complete opposite side of my joint.
And then it completely popped out of the cubittle tunnel.
And you know, obviously when people extend there a it
(25:00):
would just have a ton of movement and in any
time I would as I was probably four months postop
and I had just started like chipping and pitching, just
started like getting a club back in my hand. I
just said, man, I just don't think this is where
it's supposed to be. My arm's starting to feel really good,
but man, anytime I straightened my arm, my hand is
on fire. And they went back in and scanned it
(25:23):
and it's like, man, your nervous not where it's supposed
to be. And so they went in and did that
in November. I mean that was a battle. I mean
it was a long time of not being able to
fill your hand and a bunch of scar tissues sort
of bounded up in there. And so but you know,
makes you more resilient, it makes you wanted a little
(25:43):
bit more. And it just took a little bit. I
sort of had in my mind of how fast, just
like you were talking about, you know, the people coming
in the gym or people coming in on a driving
range or something like that. I sort of walked in
with a pretty cut and dry injury. You know, a
couple of pens to screw and you know, do the
rehab and know you're on your way. And then I
had sort of had that progression from my elbow and
(26:05):
basically every person I told that to laughed. It's like
you start dealing with a major nerve and a major
joint for someone that uses their lead arm every day
of their life. It's like, man, you might have a
little bit longer here than process. So I learn more
about I've learned more about the biomechanics of a golf
swing and how you know all that stuff wrist, elbow, shoulder,
(26:29):
hand like, all those different things than I ever wanted
to know. So I know enough to be dangerous for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I'll tell you what, I've never talked to a pro
golfer who knew what the cubital tunnel was. So you're
anatomy IQ is skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Mine had to be completely restructured. They had to. They
basically rebuilt it. So I got a gnarly scar. He
docs told me. He's like, man, just tell people you
threw way too many sliders in Little League. Yeah. Right,
so even though I'm right handed, in my scars left,
but he's like, man, just just sort of like, do
(27:02):
this a bunch of baseball and be like, oh, you
had Tom John Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I used to throw I used to throw a hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why I play golf now.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah exactly. So I would love for you shure just
kind of, you know, not to get super detailed just
about the rehab. I think a lot of people don't realize,
you know, particularly for talking lead shoulder lead, I mean
you you know to you know, double whammy, shoulder and
elbow in terms of that, you know that your rehab
is not just on the shoulder, right, you're talking, you're
(27:30):
and you've mentioned working on your patterns. But yeah, I think, yeah,
I preach it all the time from a soapbox, but
hearing it from a guy on tour saying like, yeah,
it would be cool to hear you know, working on
your hips and working on like grow other ways to
take stress off of those joints, or you know, how
involved is the swing coach, you know, as you're starting
to move back to that sort of a thing and
(27:51):
having that whole team together, I think is a cool
element that necessarily the average amature doesn't necessarily have.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, there's a big difference between like getting back to
normal life, getting back to playing golf, and getting back
to playing against the best players in the world. Yeah,
and I think with that mindset it kind of goes
into like this traditional PT route from a recovery standpoint
is not going to look normal, Like you're not like
(28:17):
you know, you know, some days it's thirty minutes, some
days it's three hours, and it just kind of depends.
And now we're throwing an element in that has not
been a part of it, with the hitting progression stuff
that it's just sort of like, man, like how much
can the joint handle? What is your hand? And you know,
I'm still just hitting off a mat let alone, Like
(28:38):
you start hitting off grass and like really realize just
the jarring motion of what that does to like lead risks, elbow,
shoulder and all that stuff. Like the repairs are great,
but a little bit there's a lot of mental components
in there too, of like man, throwing a I help
some guys. I'm actually wearing the Tennessee thing today, but
(28:58):
helps some guys over at ut And it just rained
the last couple of days and watching some guys just
dig some wedges out of the end of the grain
bermuda and I'm just like that makes me nervous. It
makes you shiver, especially as a person that's like hammered
the leading edge in the ground my whole career. Like
I mean, that's why I made my living off of
(29:19):
And it's like I know I'll eventually get there, but
right now it just seems like a pretty distant thing.
But I mean, you know, there's the traditional you know,
all the modalities, the scraping, needling, cupping, everything. My body
sort of just like at the end of the week
just sort of looks like gross. Yeah, swimming with my
(29:42):
daughter over spring break and she's like, can you put
a shirt on? She's like, you look like you got
hit by octopus.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, with all the cuffing marks. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So we do a lot of lateral line stuff, you know,
a lot of range of motion, and you know, with
with him that has been great. Adam, it's sort of
like leading the charge. You have a couple of groups
here in Knoxville. We have a six five PT and
the physio lab, you know, one sort of just standard
modality stuff like Adam's gone, and then uh, a six
(30:12):
five PT is a little bit more from a biomechanics
start start to add some golf stuff in and sort
of you know, treat retreat and you know prepare. You know,
one day I hit and then go and PT and
then one day I PT, then hit and sort of
like training all in there. So it's a it's so
unique blend and there's a there's a lot of like
(30:35):
hypotheticals in there. It's like, all right, this feels good,
we can progress. If this feels bad, let's go on there.
And there was one element with my elbow that was
unique and just with the scar. I mean it was
so I managed down to the bone. So just dealing
with all the nerve stuff in there and you know,
stretching all that out. Any scar work just sucks. I mean,
(30:57):
avoid the entrapment and uh yeah, yeah, you know, there's
a lot of just biting down on something while this
ad he's the lady that sort of helps on the
scraping side. She's this tiny little woman and she just
breaks this thing out and just starts getting in my
elbow just like get a full body sweat.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, cold sweat starts even just when she takes it out,
before she even touches you.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Probably so, but again, like it's sort of the same
mentality like finding people that are smarter than you. You know,
obviously I trust my whole career in Adam's hands, and
you know, had a great experience with the doctor and
you know the team around just just sports, you know,
kind of just be able to ask questions and create.
It's like, man, you sure this feels good? Like are
you ready to progress to the next thing? And I
(31:40):
remember the first ball that I hit and when all
this started, like everyone just sort of held their breath,
myself included, just like I have no idea what this
is going to look like.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Uh that's so true because you know, being on the
rehab side, like when we've rehab guys and you know,
we've rehabbed one of the fastest guys in the world,
and it's the same thing. You do all the work
like sounds like what you're doing right, you're like prepping
or doing all of the can you handle the volume?
You know, based on the way to the club about
FASTI swinging Matt versus her? And then you get to
(32:11):
that point, as you know on the professional side, and
you're like, all right, mathematically this should work. And then
then the athlete goes and hits, and to your point,
everyone on the on the medical side is literally like,
I hope we didn't screw this up. I hope we
didn't screw it. And then like you'll hit and I
don't know if you saw it, but like we're always
like good.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Noe, Yeah, Like I hit like six balls, and I
hadn't said anything, and it was more like I was
not going to have an immediate reaction, and I didn't
say anything for like five or six and then these
balls are going like thirty yards yeah, and everyone's not
saying anything, and I was like, I think we're all right,
But it's all the stuff that you collective exhale, Like
(32:53):
I hadn't thought about a ball count or the number
of balls that I hit my entire life. And next thing,
you know, you're like, if you do till me that
like thirty balls would seem like this. While day I
was like, thirty balls doesn't seem like I've done anything.
But realizing like what going over the course of like
eight nine months of not doing it and having you know,
pretty significant joint surgery and realizing like just the reaction
(33:18):
in this front like lead forearm, like it feels like
I have two forearm bones right here, just in just
the tightness of what that just the reaction of like
when it goes wants to hit down the turf. And
I've always been a real strong face guy, and so
that thing is coming in like this, yeah, exact action
down in and you know, so seeing that part and
(33:41):
learning all right, this is sort of what I have
to do, and you know, retraining my warm up and
you've sort of just been your body aware. You'll kind
of cure what ails you when you're you're going to
warm up and you'll kind of be ready for anything
when you go play. And you're now sort of learning,
all right, if I'm gonna go hit, like, I gotta
really make make sure like scap engagements probably you know,
(34:03):
making sure that thing is you know, back up and down,
up and under me. I really wanted a kind of
tendency to like get up high. I've been a high
left shoulder guy my whole life too, so there's some
pattern in there and now there's some surgical things in there,
and so I like that. So being very cognizant of,
you know, when I make sure all that stuff's engaged
before I go hit, and you know, really trying to
(34:26):
relearn what that looks like as as far as something
I haven't really thought about my whole life. And it's
been a good journey to have and you know, really
uh interesting to see some of the progression. I hit
a couple of balls the other day and some of
our guys that you tease like, ah, man, like that
doesn't look like you don't know what you're doing. And
I was like, what did y'all think it was gonna
(34:47):
look like? And you know, you want some truth to
either get a really young like kindergartener or get some
college kids and they'll tell you, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I got I got three under eleven. So yeah, there's
there's always truth there.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So I think, you know, that's sort of what it
looks like. I mean, that's obviously there's a lot more
detail in the day to day, but that's sort of
the you know, the shortest you know, story version of
sort of what a weekend and week out looks like.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, And I think that's important for people to hear
because I think the average amateur, you know, they're going
to go you know, they if they had you know,
even if they just had the labor room and the biceps,
you know, never mind the elbow. Most amateurs wouldn't put
up with that. You're absolutely going back from it's your career.
But you know, most of them, they'll go to the
regular rehab to your point, and then they're like they'll
(35:37):
get discharged because the insurance says they can reach over
their head and they you know, and they're like okay,
and the doc will be like, okay, you're good to
go play golf, and it's like, yeah, no, not at all.
You're like not even closed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you definitely have. Like I remember when I got
to like full Selection and Maddie the girl she's like,
this is when you would be checked off.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I was like what yeah, and she's like, you know
the baseline for like what is back to normal? I
was like, I was like, I just started to be
able to put my shirt on by myself, like a
week ago.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, now you check the box.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You can beat dis charted, and you're like, holy cow.
So I've learned a lot as far as that and
hopefully be able to kind of like, you know, the
tell the story. I was like, man, like they're like,
there's back and then there's better, and I think, you know,
any opportunity to deal with adversity and try to not
trying to find a chance to use it to come
(36:36):
back better than you were is sort of like a
waste of a great opportunity, and and that's sort of
the way I've looked at it. It's definitely been longer
than I would have thought. I remember the first time
I saw my doctor and he sort of looked at
He's like, man, you're a mess. He's like, you did
(36:56):
this playing golf. And I showed him how I did it,
and he's like, yeah, yeah, I can see that that
makes sense. And he's like, man, I might never hit
out a ferrite bunker again. So but I think just learning,
you know, kind of all the way through and kind
of seeing what what that looked like has definitely made
(37:17):
it maybe realize, like truly how much I love the game,
and you know how much I'm thankful for the opportunity
I had to play as long as I have. You know,
there's still some fire in there to come back, but
really utilize the opportunity to come back really ready to play,
and use the time of way to build up as
best I possibly can and come back ready to go.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Sure, and you probably even realize it, but when you're
you mentioned you know the word longevity, and that's such
a important word for guys over forty, but particularly like fifties,
and over forty is kind of like that, and I
call that the bridge years. You know, we look at
all of our data forty one tends to be in golf,
and stuff kind of falls off the cliff, you know,
when you're mentioning the longevity and you're sharing with people
(38:01):
you know and educating like what it does actually take
to get back to golf after surgery. It's not when
the insurance company says, okay, you're good and that there
is a lot more to do to it. And because unfortunately,
what we end up seeing is we see the guys
who get checked off, they get discharged, they go play
golf and then they reinjure themselves or they're like shocked
that they can't hit the ball as far as they
(38:21):
used to know. I thought my shoulder was face.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, the insurance told me that at full flection or
whatever it is, you know, whatever that range motion.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Ever, and I remember that was kind of the one
thing I had some of the biggest trouble with. I
mean I was in that brace for almost ten weeks, yeah,
and I mean nothing was really moving very well, and
just kind of deal with all that and just it
was funny seeing is like this would be the point
where they tell me I could go play, and she's
(38:55):
like almost like we would tell you just to like, hey, man,
go on the course and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Just ease into it.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And like I feel like we're a long way away
from that.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, exactly so, but I know that's that's that's important
for you, just for people to hear, and especially from
a guy like yourself on tour, you know, top players
in the world, like there is more to it, and
I think unfortunately there's in the insurance world, it's like, oh,
that's all we can do for you, best of block,
and that there there is more that you can do.
(39:27):
You know this guy I want to don't want to
take all your time when you're busy. Appreciate you coming
on the show today. And for people that you know
that are listening, is they're kind of like a final
piece of advice you could give them, particularly for that
you know, guy that's looking for more longevity just wants
to like loves playing the game and dealing with body
breaking down.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Mm hm, and say two things, if you ask any
of my guys or whatever help at u T I
would say not a matter of if. But when like that,
it goes for every thing can be applied to everything.
You know, Hey, did you train today? It's like, yeah,
like I did, like, that's just part of my day. Yeah,
(40:10):
or and then uh, I guess when you can know
and you know, ignorance is non excuse, and there's a
lot of things that you know, whether it's you need
somebody to come alongside you and help you open up
that scary closet that may be not scary but you
don't really know, you know whether and that applies to everything, life, golf, whatever.
(40:31):
We had one guy last year and literally probably one
of the worst shippers I have ever seen on planet Earth.
Literally I mean waist tie almost face pointing at the
ground and now he's top forty in the world widger
and literally like came alongside and was like, man, it's
not as scary as you think it is, but you
until you actually open the door and realize like there
(40:54):
actually is like light in there. I think that's where,
you know, just making yourself a little bit more vulnerable
and finding people that are better than you. And uh
I actually had a chance to practice with him this morning,
and I was just like, holy cow, man, Like the
difference in what he was capable of in November to
come now in March a year later is just truly
(41:17):
mind blowing. Of just seeing of him just incrementally chat
chipping away and finding that so well, I guess when
you can know and not a matter of if, but when.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
That's amazing, wise words from a wise man he's been
through a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I guess I guess there you go.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I still have to text Ryan to give them good
mort time about that. But uh, but Scott, I can't
thank you so much for coming on. Uh what Uh
if people want to follow you, what's the best place
for them to kind of keep up with you? And
then just your road recovery and when you're back up
on tour.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I guess social media Instagram. I feel I struggle calling
it X. I mean yeah, Twitter is still yeah, stuff
like that. I turned forty. I turned forty in a
couple months. I'm right there with you. Yeah, we got
some cool stuff coming out with you know, some of
my sponsors starting to build back, you know, the marathons
in three weeks, So we have some cool things coming
(42:16):
up with that. How I've utilized just training for something
I knew nothing about, and how I've learned just a
lot as far as building me back to playing again.
So it's been pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Cool, all right, we'll make sure we put all that
in the show notes for everybody, and Scott, thanks so
much for hanging out with me here today, and everyone
else listening, thanks so much for hanging out with me
here on the golf in this pomp squad, and we'll
catch you on the next episode. Thanks guys, perfect, Thanks
goot Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah man, anytime I appreciate
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