June 6, 2024 • 49 mins
Jeff and Susie discuss *The Doll* from Season 2 with special appearance from Larry David.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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All Right, abstusiastic you who do you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Always need to recover from the ship? That? He says?
That is that scenario? Yeah, it's hilarious. I'm Jeff Garland.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And we're here with Larry David. Yes, and we're discussing
season two the doll Okay, episode seven.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
By the way, feel free to ask me any question
about the doll or any any question about anything.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
How did this episode come up?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here's how it came up. Anything we want my.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Daughter, I don't know. Let's see what year are we
talking about to that. She must have been six and
she had a doll and I was looking at the doll,
and I thought, what if I cut the dolls? I thought,
I'd really like to give this dollar haircut. What would
(01:18):
happen if I did? Would should be upset?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And so that was the derivation.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, but by the way, people like us and I'm
talking about comedian people. We have a million thoughts that
run the gamut from that to really inappropriate, and we
don't act on it because you didn't cut the dolls hair, right, No, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You thought what if I did? And she'd be upset
and thus the germ of a classic.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So we start out you're in a pitch with ABC
with Julia pitching on that Evelyn or would you know?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Would Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And you're drinking a lot of water. You have to
drink water eight times.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
A day, setting up the end.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, correct, And so you already had the ending in mind.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I don't know if I did. We needed the bottle
of water because you had to have because the bottle
of water didn't add anything to the storyline except for
his argument and the ending.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And you know, a lot of peeing having to use
the bathroom at the Michaelson's house, right, A lot of that?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah. Have you ever been told a
lot of peeing in your work? No? Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And you're there and you find out that Jason is
also going to be working with ABC, playing a motivational speaker,
and your question is where did you meet? Because prior
to that you had the whole mischia goss with Jason
about having to go to his.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Office and show one. Yeah, right, yes, it was just
a joke. Yeah, yeah, did he come to you or well?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
By the way, One thing I love about your character,
nothing is lecto nothing. If there's anything done to you,
it will be investigated until the end. And you may
distr right, but I always find that usually you dig
a bigger hole for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Usually as a grudge bearer. I think, so, yes, where'd
you meet?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then you're pondering because we see how deeply it
upsets you that you actually met that Jason came to them,
but you had to go to him, and then you're
part of the ABC family.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Come to the screening of Harriet.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The hardest, the.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Hardest thing about this show, as I recall or one
of the things that I didn't care for that I
had to do. There have to be two screenings in
the same theater. And it's so stupid because something happened
the first screening, right, and then some of course the
ending the second screening. But you're coming back for part
two tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow becomes hilarious. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You actually throw around. Yeah, and then your question, what's
the difference between Harriet, Yeah, that's later that this meeting.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, that's later, Oh that's yeah, Yeah, that's that is.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
The last line of this.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, but you know, who wants to go to a
screening of Harriet Beach of Stowe?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know? And then's history buffs just saying I.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Never understand why you go to a screening of something
that's going to be on television. Why do you need
to go to a screen because he's part of the
your house comfortably watching it on television. It's not like
a movie that's going to be in a movie theater.
Doesn't make any sense to me, and I'm sure it
didn't it to Larry.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's a movie theater that we've used since I don't
think before Parent with that premiere is there? Well, our
premiers have been numerous times, Yeah, maybe even three times.
But on Paramount Pictures a lot. There's a big screening,
I mean theater. It's a theater.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Our last premiere was there, Yeah, season eleven and then
Lane Michaelson asked you you're going to come? You say,
your wife's Susie's a friend of the art director.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
How is Susie.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He asked your host, Susie, and then you'd say you're
staying in a hotel.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We split.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I had completely forgotten that your characters that's split up. Yes,
when I was watching it last night, I thought, oh
my god, they're not together, because.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We already did the thor episode where we split up
with you where you had to go get his porn
right right, That was prior to that. We got back
together obviously because it was such a happy couple. Yes,
Julia gets out of it by saying her son has
pink eye very wisely, which we know was bullshit.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No one argues that pinky now, it's one of those ones.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And after that, that's when you say, what's the difference
between Harriet Peter Stowe and Harriet Tubman? Who Harriet Tubman
comes back again? We're not going to say how right,
And at the screening you set another thing up. This
is the beauty of this episode. You say to Cheryl,
I think we might be due for some sex tonight,
and Lane Michaelson COOMSI introduces himself and a woman stops
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you going into the theater.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Excuse me, there's no put or drink in the theater.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm sorry, Really, I got like a condition. I really
need to have this.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You're gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Finish it out here.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's my favorite stop at of all time.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And then I find out a minute later that she's
just somebody attending the screen.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
She doesn't work for this, by the way. Gold yeah, gold,
She says.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, to drink in the theater, and what if
I have a condition.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, she was hard on you. You thought there were
strict rules and she was in charge of which made
the second party yeah, yeah, who are you? Yeah, there's
no way other people wouldn't react that way unless they're repressed.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know, I might not say something they know.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh yes, that's that's absurd. That's absurd that she doesn't
work there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But most people wouldn't say.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
There was a five percent jackass factor, people who just
don't like rules to be broken regardless, and so yeah,
but there might be a five percent chance that someone
would go, you know, the you I supposed to bring.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Face that before. But the person who is so so
in control, it's a rule, you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I have to tell you when i'm when when there's
a rule okay that I think is a legitimate rule,
and I see somebody breaking a legitimate rule, I don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, I don't like this person. Who who do you
think when you.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
See somebody litter, for example, exactly?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, but if you were coming in with a big
thing of food and a sandwich, but a bottle, yeah,
it's usually.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Even no food or drink. Water is water? That is acceptable? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, But I feel the same way you see somebody
doing something a litter or or something we did in
the later opposode, taking two spaces in a in a
parking lot, or you know the big parker.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
By the way, it happens every day when you drive
every day when you drive there, you know, no, when
people say I'm not going to follow this rule, I'm
going to cut in here, do this, do that every
day when I drive in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know what happens to me all the time because
I have a dog. I see a the dog owners
not picking up the poop. That perfect, and I say
something all the time because I am that woman.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Okay, But meanwhile I brought the water into the theater
and that was no big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That was no big deal. But the fight between you
and her was hilarious. Excuse me, Yeah, do you work here?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No? How come you told me to get rid of
the water. Then I saw you coming with water.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
There's no water.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's the rules.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't understand that was your concern. You don't work here.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's the rules. The sign says no food or drink
in the theater. I'm sure we would all like to
have a w.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, we're all dying of thirst. What are you the
hallway monitor here?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Who are you that the rules don't apply?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm applying the Golden rule?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't think the Golden rule applies here.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
If you had water, would you want me to tell
you not to bring it in?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How about common courtesy, buddy, that.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Doesn't supersede the Golden rule? That's the big one. Nuts.
You are nuts jack ass. Don't don't bring any pencil
pencils in? Loser. Excuse me, missus character, We've got homework.
You forgot to give us homework.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Are you the whole monitor, the Golden rule? All of
the teacher? You forgot to tell us we have homework.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
By the way, depends in pencils? Was I think the
last one? Are we going to be using.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Excuse me, missus cantor was that a teacher?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You really? My first we've gone.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Homework, and Cheryl for the millionth time saying all right,
all right, I mean every episode Cheryl has said so
far that we've watched.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Then you're at the Michaelson's house and you're telling Jeff
about the fight, and you see the whole monitor woman
we don't know her name talking to Anne Michaelson, which
was Rita Wilson, and Jeff says to you, you want
to go to dinner tomorrow before part two.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Now that's just the beginning.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Now I wouldn't do that to Jeff, but because it
was so early in the run of the series, it
didn't seem to make a difference that I said at
the Jeff, our relationship has grown, has grown, and any
wondn't give a shit by the way the real life,
that's our relationship that you would say to me, no,
don't do that. But still, this is part of the
joy of doing the show for me is to be
(10:17):
able to say things to people that I can't say
in my life, and one of them is you want
to go to dinner tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
No, I don't yeah, but it was Jeff who got
the brunt of it at that time. I loved it,
by the way, I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, let me ask you, Jeff, I have a
note here and then you start talking about that you
liked it because she's showing a lot of cleavage.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, when I don't think that was in the script. Yeah,
when they walked away, I'm telling the ABC guy, what
happens in the second half? Is she in there because
there's a.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Lot of cleavage. Yeah, I don't know that your character
would do that. Now, what do you think? Oh, totally again,
how the character hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
My character has not evolved. Actually, if anything, I more
defender of Larry every season. Yes, and everyone understands my
feeling towards you. That's why my character has a million
and one affairs. So I think he would definitely question
whether there's been more cleavage.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, Larry then has a frozen Margarita has a
chess freeze, and I.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Must have I think there was a period that I
went through I would get that chess freeze right right.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, I just thought, now you freeze yourself on purpose?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And Anne Michaelson comes over and she's clearly doesn't like
you already, she's already heard from.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Who have a volunteer to be a hole monitor?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Not me either, I hated the whole monitors, the rules, rosies,
and she's she's clearly doesn't like you. Ready, you go
to the bathroom, there's no lock, and then the strings playing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You're holding your foot against the door and trying to
go away.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
The funniest one is holding the foot against the door
because the toilet is a mile away. The idea that
you thought I could reach you. Yeah, so stupid, so stupid, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I think that's a great example of how music
is used in that show. You know that, you know
that the strings there was just so yes, how did you?
How did while we have you here? If I may,
is there somebody who originally came up with all this music?
Was there a music editor?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well? I heard the theme bum bump.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I heard that on a bank commercial, right, And I
told Laura and my assistant, I said, I heard this
music that I love and maybe I'll use it one day.
And then two years later, I said, remember that music
I told you to say?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
If?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
She said yes, So that's in some kind of library right,
and once we got that music from the library, there
were tons of other little little pieces that were usable
for the show. Like like like I said, I told Steve,
Steve Rash, Steve the editor, I said, I want like
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Italian circus music. Yeah, all kinds of Italian circus music,
because I felt like, even if something doesn't work, you
put that circus music in there and it makes everything
lighter and funnier. So yeah, that's that's where we get
all the music from this library. But occasionally I will say, oh,
(13:19):
you know it would be great here some strauswaltz, or
or you know it would be great here some Rossini,
and I'll know a particular piece that I'll suggest piece.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, do you listen that much? No, No, classical music.
By the way, You've surprised me over the years, and
I get a big laugh out of it. With your
knowledge of popular music, and you know the words. They
are accurate from one word to the next. And I'll say,
have you listened to that you like their music? Beach
Boys whatever? No, No, I've heard it a bunch. And
(13:54):
I you start saying, but I do like the bitch Boys.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, I know, I know, I'm example, But is there
a separate editor who does music or is that all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The Steve used to do all the music. I'm not
sure if he does it all now because the music is.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So important in the show.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
One of the things that Jeff and I noticed when
we were doing the original pilot it didn't have the
music and it felt so I mean, it had some
cute little jazz music and was fine, but it felt
so different. It felt so different the whole world of it.
The music creates the world of it. Okay, so you
need to find another bathroom because this bathroom is not working.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For no, it's no good.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
A lot of always a lot of bathroom themes of life.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There was always humor, as long as it's not about
statological scatological. There's a lot of humor and bathrooms there is.
We even did a big episode about that later. My
favorite bathroom bit was the one I did on the
plane where I went into the bathroom and there was turbulence. Yes,
that was I think that was eight. I think season four.
(14:59):
It was an New York one. Oh, it was going
to New York to shoot the producers.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think, oh, that was that one.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, So you go upstairs to find another bathroom and
you enter the little girl's room and her name was Tara.
Little girl's name was Sarah, and she's playing with her
dolls and she asked you do you have to go potty?
And you come out of the bathroom and she's brushing
her doll, Judy's hair, which is very long hair.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
How was she cast this little girl? Because she was terrific.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Audition Yes, she auditioned. By the way, her rhythms, she
was great. Yeah, her rhythms were like because she would
go from A to Z in a millisecond and then
go right back, right back.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, she was terrific.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She was, And I want to get to running into
her later in life, but after we get more storyline. Yeah,
there close to thirty.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Shut your great grandma's balls really.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Two thousand and one?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I think she's like twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, but I want to I want to hold it
because I want to get more storyline and because I
don't want to give that away. Okay, we'll be right back,
Stay tuned, and we're back. So she's brushing and she
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asked you to give her a haircut.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What is he supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But by the way, he's already having so much joy
being with the girl.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Talking to her at the party.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Well, that for sure, but that's one of the things
that you know, Larry.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Was I think I commented on the long hair, right, yes,
very long hair. I don't think I brought up would
you would you want me to get it? I didn't
say that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
She asked me.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, she said, do you think you could give it
a haircut?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And you take out your Swiss army knife and have
a very funny line about the Swiss let everybody do
their fighting for them while they ski and eat chocolate,
and you cut it. It's a Dorothy Hamel thing and
it looks great, and she's all happy, and she even
says the doll looks like pretty yes, and you say.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's a very French look. Now, I would take her out.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then you go back downstairs and you pass the
hall monitor on the way. We never know her name,
and Cheryl walks out of the powder room says to you,
there's no lock.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You're like, I know, and she asks you to guard
the door.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Hair.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Why did you cut her hair?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, she asked me. She asked me to give it
a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You walked into my daughter's room and you cut.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Her Judy's hair.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, she asked me to give it a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And did you have to tell her that maybe it
wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I thought it was understood. How could you not.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Understand that a little girl has a vivid imagination.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She's extremely different.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
That little girl doesn't know that her Dolly's hair is
not going to you know who this is.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
This is Judy. She is a collector's item.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
We're not going to be able to find another one
I got before she was born.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, I can replace it.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm sure I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You can replace it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is like Liberty's a b baby out of production. Op, okay,
not coming back, is never gonna go back?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
What is that? I guess I missed a strand there.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I got a Swiss army.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Let me get it. I got a Swiss army.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
kN if I could, I could get that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Mommy, mommy, look at my doll's hair.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He cut it.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's what she could do. She could go from really
warm and calm to insane in a matter of seconds. Yeah,
case she came down. Yeah it is it. Yeah, your
characters thinking like that, what I do it?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And once again, you didn't really do anything wrong, and
yet no good deed goes unpunished.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
She asked you to cut the dolls exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, and by the way, you did a good job
cutting the hair. I thought I did.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, he left one little strand, but that's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, but was that not part of the script? The
strand probably not, I don't remember. It certainly gives u
Rita Wilson's character ammunition towards you. It's such an awkward moment.
It's great.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I don't think it was if I recall the outline whatever,
all right, and You're like, she asked me to cut
the hair, and Anne's like, did you tell her it
wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Of course you didn't tell her it wouldn't grow back
to what a freaking idiot. She wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That comes back?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Thought it was understood, It comes later on. That's one
of my favorite lines in the show.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yes, I thought it was understood, and and she has
a vivid imagination.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Rita was terrific in this episode.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Did you mention that she goes to Merman?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That was later?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
That was later?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And then Lane Michaelson walks in on.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Ryl in the back because I left my post had
to deal with the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Paul Hilarious was going on, and Anne Michaelson says, this
is Judy.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
She's a collector's item.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We could not find another oh oh pee out of production,
and the girl's crying and the haircuts ugly, and you say,
I can replace it. And then Jeff says, Sammy, our
daughter who was a son prior to that but suddenly
became a daughter and also aged quite a bit in
the year in between, has a huge doll collection. We'll
(20:09):
go to my house, will zip in, will zip out,
because you know you're not really allowed to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Right, Jeff's pretty sure that he's got the Judy's got
the Judy.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Also the fact that I wouldn't take into consideration my
daughter's feelings. I'm serving you. I gotta get Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You know, she had a giant doll collection and you
didn't think it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
But I didn't take a beat to go. And that's right,
why my character is shitty, you know, tell me about
it all right. Stop.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So Cheryl likes at the bathroom and she just looks
at you with that look which.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I found in the first couple of seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
There's more of that with Ryl than there was later on,
like more of her going to get you back. There's
been several episodes where she's going to kind of get
you back, and then you're home and you're like, I
fucked up.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
That's a real Brooklyn thing. Yeah, I fucked up. But
by the way, if there's one thing that in my
experience that you do to a woman is when they're
yammering about something, then they're angry that you make a
joke or you do a silly voice. They're infuriated. So
this time, when I saw you do that, I was like,
oh my.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
God, it makes it worse.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh my god, that's what's.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Seriously, you're not you're not validating my feelings.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm admitting I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, but not really. Yeah, any weren't really.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So Cheryl's like, he saw everything, Like, think of the
worst possible thing. So I was sitting there, what did
he say, She's sitting on whatever. She was not happy,
And no, he.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Saw her pretty much completely naked. That's what she asserts.
You know, he saw everything right, And she tells me
humiliating by the way.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
She tells you that she could never see this, that
I just wanted.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
To get breath to go. Why did I add that
that's humiliating? Well, of course it's humiliatd No, I know
that you just answered my question. Of course it's humiliating.
Did I want to just participate more in the show?
What was my choice in doing that? Let's move on.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Should we analyze that?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Why did you add that? Because I didn't want anyone
at home to go? Why the fuck did he ask that?
And I know our audience, I'm assuming is very intelligent,
and I just don't want to let anything go by
where you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Cheryld then says, get anything to worry about with that,
I'm moving on. Cheryl then says, you know, I can
never face this man again. I'm humiliated. And Cheryl's like,
you have to go somewhere else. We can't do it
at ABC, she can't go to NBC's because of ge and.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The period bridges.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You can't HBO. You totally fucked with.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're running out and you say it's a mood point
if we can't replace the doll and then you go
into divorce.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Is this a divorce? And that's where we see that
dynamic with Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's great, you know your relationship, how she plays off
you and you play with.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You know, in my in my real marriage, I would
never say to my wife, what do you think maybe
a little sex tonight. Yeah, I wouldn't say that I
have to put a move on the way if I
was dating you know, you know I don't. I don't
say let's have sex. I know, I never say that.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Does she always have to initiate? No, No, you'll initiate,
but you just won't verbalize it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, or I'll I'll pick up a cue or something, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, always looking for the cues.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
And so the divorce, if we had a fight, I
would never go divorce.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah. You were clearly joking though when you said divorce
and she knew that. Yeah, I'm just saying I would
never have said that. You can't say that life. Yeah,
you're in a fight. You're in a fight.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It shows the playfulness that Larry Show Larry and Show
Cheryl had in their relationship, which I think is important.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, then you go look for the Judy doll. You
drop up our house, remember that house we had in
the hills.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nicholas came fell on the sponge cake.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, yes, yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Wasn't that the house? It was the house. It was
the house.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yes, that's next season.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I fell on the sponge Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And you come and you go up to Sammy's room.
There's a million fucking dolls. I've never seen so many
dolls in my That was a purpose to that. And
Jeff says, Judy there you go.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
No, yes, it is, of course it is. No, it's
not her. That's Judy. No, it's not Judy. I've seen Judy.
That's Judy.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Judy's brown eyes.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, blue eyes. The eyes, I do know the eyes.
Come on, I see my dough Judy brown eyes. I
made I said it on my head, brown eye. I know.
The song is Sweet Judy blue eyes. And she has
brown eyes. That's brown eyes. That's not Judy, Sweet Judy
brown eyes. Holy ship Judy brown eyes. Now, by the way,
(24:57):
when he said that, when he came up with that,
we both exploded. It took a while to get back
into it because that is nuts. I remembered her. I
put it together, Sweet Judy brown eyes. It's fucking hilarious.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
But then you spot Judy up on the top shelf
and you go to get it and the shelf fall,
which was an accident.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yes, it was. Every time we did it. Shelf was fine.
Maybe it was the last time or no, it was
the last the first time that no, not the shell
fell down. It was the first take. I don't remember.
You would know that. I don't think so, because anyhow,
point being is that was not planned, and Larry and
(25:38):
I just stuck with it. We knew you were coming shortly.
We just stuck with it and we're like scrambling and
that whole thing of me putting it up and saying
I'm worried. I'm just made that up on the spot
because we had to justify the thing being on the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And sometimes that's the best things that we go.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
For, you, Yeah, because that makes you go what the
fuck is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And that does happen frequently where it's a happy accident,
where it just makes everything better.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Why. One of the keys to improvising is don't stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Keep going and the door slim, Susie's here, fear fear fear.
I love that. And Larry, what are you gonna do?
You take the head off and you stick it down
your pants.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Head screw the head screws off pretty much all yeah, yeah,
so yeah, there was something about the way this show
just unfolded that I love because now I've got this
head and and I'm going back to Rita Wilson missus
Michaelson to give her the head.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Then I have to go back. Then we see you
about it that that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah yeah, so and also you stick the head down
because the.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Thing is going to Usually I need a number of
ideas to get through an episode, and and and the
idea is okay, the ideas will I try and make
them all connect intersect at some point, but with this show,
it's really just one idea, cutting this doll's hair. There
are little things around it that support the idea.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like the bottle of water.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah, like the bottle of water, the relationship with the
woman who you know, the whole monitor, But that's just
supporting the overall idea of this doll, of cutting the
doll's hair. It's one of the few episodes I think
in the series, maybe the only one where there was
really only one strong theme from beginning to end. I
(27:31):
might be wrong, but that's somehow that's in my memory.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
By the way I watch it, and I think that
episode was so dense and everything perfectly led to the
next thing. It was like the dominoes on the Tonight Show.
You don't know where it's going to end, you do, obviously.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's about legs, and so this idea of cutting this
doll's hair, it just had a lot of legs. You
could see it going from here to there to there
to there to there, like twice as many scenes as
an ordinary story would happen. Right, most stories, most ideas
don't have legs like that. You can only get, you know,
(28:07):
maybe three four scenes the most out of it. But
this one had so many legs that it covered the
entire episode.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in awe of your writing on this
episode because I always refer to it, but I always
referring to that hiking. This is your truly net hike
in you know, car fifty four, where you don't know
where it's going to end, even though because the connections
we're talking about, you're about to get a rash, like
how did that? You know? Steps and steps, and I
(28:37):
find that fasting. He's the only the writer who I've said,
you know, that's a nice compliment. It is for any
of you at home, just google that hiking. I don't
want to explain.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Okay, So Susie's here, take the head off and the
music is so great on this takes the head off,
sticks it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
In his pants and I'm screaming, you're supposed to call first,
and I walk in and you're pretending to put the
shelf up right, which was an accident. Again, that was,
you know, And I noticed for myself this is really
the first beginning of the Susie Green.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Look.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I've got the animal print vest, I've got a goal,
I think. So there was little hints of it before,
but this is this is season two.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, I remember supervising what you wore. I was really
on top of it the first couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I look out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I go, no, it's too much, it's too much, it's
too much. And then finally I just gave up.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I gave up. Now every time we work, we have
no idea and it's a surprise. The one you wore
yesterday with the side loops. Yeah, the orange outfit was
pure insanity.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah. Yeah, but when I come on set, this is
always a reveal.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It is though, it's always funny.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So you're pretending to put the shelf up, and you
say to me, I'm like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And you say to Sammy's shelf was always bothered, always
worrying you.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I've been thinking about the shelf.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
That Larry put up all the shelves in his house,
which is the most unbelie.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's where the show goes. It's like someone says something.
You go, oh, I can make this, and I say, what.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Are you, mister California closets.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
You know, the idea of you putting up all the shelves,
it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And then I say to you, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Have you ever put up a shelf in my life? Yeah?
A shelf. I've never even held a shelf.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Have you ever hung a picture back on forty third Street?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Forty third Street, All the pictures were on the floor, okay,
there was nothing on the wall, nothing. Every picture was
leaning leaning on the ground against the wall.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And then I say to you, you think I didn't
notice you, mister inconspicuous at the screening.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And then okay, then part two I bring up part
two again?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You a part two?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah? I have to keep setting up part two because
it's so crazy made.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Maybe I'll go and then you're in the car.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Told that in a second. Yeah, the idea that there
is a part two and it's a week apart. Yeah,
it is so funny, so funny. It's not a week apart,
next day, next day, because I was watching it, think
what that is?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You have to go back the next day.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And then you're in the car and you pull the
dolls head out of your pants and there's a little
itch down.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
There going on from that synthetic hair.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And then Sammy screams, talk about the casting of Sammy audition, audition,
she was adorable.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But my favorite thing that you did before we get
to Sammy screaming when we're driving in the car, you
broke a record for saying the word penis. Penis this
I got to look at my penis? Or is that
the next scene?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's the next scene.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'll talk me okay, but I still love that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Sammy screams, Mommy, someone caught off, Judy said, which again
shows what a horrible father you were that you thought
you would know it.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's why when I said my daughter's got it, don't worry.
I thought, this is of course going to screw him up.
But by the way, I'm a subtle asshole on the ship,
just subtle. You see it in an explosive way after
I've done it. But when I suggest Hilary, I'm about
to do something, it tickles him. Really, you're going to
do that, you know, especially my affairs? What's wrong you? Okay,
(32:35):
go do that. And by the way, one of the
cardinal rules I have in life is if I have
a friend and they're having an affair, please don't tell me.
I don't want to be exchanging. And that's either way,
it's disastrous. You want to do shit like that, keep
that to yourself because I'm not going to be a
part of your festival.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Has anybody ever asked you to, like, you know, use
your home or anything.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Never a home, But people have told me that they're
having affairs, And right away I go, why the fuck
did you do that? Why did you do that? You know?
Have you ever had anyone tell you, not.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Like confide some big secret, but just a very matter
of factly right right right right right, like they were
saying they were going.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
To a nick game, you know, yeah, yeah, h going
to see my guma.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, all right, So you bring the head to Anne
Michaelsion and she's, you know, suspicious.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
All right, it looks okay. I'll take it upstairs and
make sure up again.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Something we passed over is you doing carry grant to
the little girl. But she has no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Judy, Judy, Judy. So she's going to go upstairs and
you say, may I use your bathroom? You start to
follow her upstairs because even when there's no one in
the house, you don't want to use the powder room
with no lock and the hole hold on.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That is fucking hilarious that your assumption that you can
go up there and use the little girl.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I went to the girl's room. Yeah, I don't want
to use the powder room there's no lock. It made
perfect sense, no, but it was really funny.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And the locksmith is fixing the lock, and that was
of course Jonas.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Dear Jonas, Dear Jonas. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Jonas
was on our crew for so many years, and yeah,
so sometimes we cast crew members because they're fucking perfect,
Like he was perfect for the locksmith and he already
knew the show inherently. I'm not gonna try and be funny.
I'm going to be matter of fact because Larry does
(34:34):
the funny list. But it was really good a couples.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We've also noticed several times up until this point. George,
our prop master, was used as a person.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
The water splashing in the Shack episode. He's in there
twice and at the watch McCall with the asking him
for advice when you're trying to put a tire on.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I don't know, Okay, So Anne Michaelson comes in
the head is fixed, and this is where you go
into the whole discussion about that she's gifted.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
This is this is a great thing. She tells me
how gifted are Yeah, and you say it's.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
A shame she didn't know the hair. It was a
good throwback.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
She's so brilliant, yet she didn't know that the dolls
hair is. That is another character. You won't let people
throw your bullshit. You won't. It's truly And by the way,
who hasn't encountered an asshole like that about how special?
He said?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Murmured, Well, one of my pet peeves is when people
start telling me how gifted their children are.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't want to hear how gifted your fucking children are?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know? And by the way, most children that are
very gifted do not do well as an adult. I
read a whole thing, oh really in Bullshit magazine. No,
I read it. I think the times I don't know.
And then do you like the fun facts I throw
in you?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Fascinating? All right?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And then you guys leave and you were driving up
the driveway to Larry's house and who's there waiting for you?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Where's the head? I know you took the Dollph's head?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Where is it?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Where's the fucking head?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That that? Now, this one is an iconic scene.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It isactly the spaghetti western music is playing, which I
was upset to realize that you. I thought it was
my theme. It had been played earlier for Thor, but
then it became.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
My Yeah, then it became your theme. Yeah, And so
did you pick that or did Steve? Steve? Oh, brilliant move, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, brilliant move. And where's the head? And this scene
just plays out.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Because you're speaking like the Susie we know now.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right in a big way, and it's really I mean, well,
we had the Thor episode before this where I was
somewhat in that shad. But I think really this scene
really established the fear that Jeff and Larry they get this.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Stamp on Susie. This is the journey we're going to
have with it.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
So totally justified what you were saying. Yeah, yeah, we
took you were we took Judy's head.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
And imagine, you know, from my point of view, why
why would you take a doll's head out of your
daughter's daughter?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
It makes no sense whatsoever. It's so insane. Think about
it from your point of view.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, it's completely insane. That's why I say some votos.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We took we took a doll's head from your daughter.
How could you possibly imagine what it could have been?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And it sets up that has been going on for
twelve seasons where you two were trying to put something off,
put something over on me, which is just ridiculous and
it never works and you live in fear of Susie
Green And it's one of, of course, one of my
favorite scenes.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
By the way, at the time it was one of
our because remember we got in the car and drove
off and we're going, wow, wow, is that great? Yeah,
it was really.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I also remember in that scene when I say stop
scratching your balls and tell me where it is. That
wasn't looping, And that was the first time I looped.
Oh really, yes, that was in looping because you needed
that for story purpose to further along.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I didn't actually say that in the episode. So that's
an example.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now, wow, And people always ask that question is it
all improvised? And that's an example of a time when
a line was not improvised because it was needed for story.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Rare.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's rare, but sometimes it's needed for story purposes. And
then you get into the edge.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So now this becomes a little a bit of a
problem for me just in writing, because now I have
to go back to Rita Wilson.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, and see if she has the.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Dull the original hair, the cut hair, the short hair,
and so now so now it's like, oh, long hair,
short hair, It's good.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It getting confusing.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
How much do we have to emphasize this that that
became a bit of a problem to go back and
if the is the audience still following this, Now I
have to go back to her house and ask if
she has the doll whose hair I cut off, the
head yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
And it was in this next scene when you're in
the car that you start talking about your penis, witches
and a lot of that's the record.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
For penis talk. And I love the way you're just
casually saying, I gotta clean my penis, I gotta get examined.
I don't want to go to the penis doctor.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Like it was just penis penis, penis, and you say
you've got an allergic reaction, my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you go to the doctor, say, oh, I stuck a dolls.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, by the way, good to One thing that we
skipped that really was another thing that we rode for
a long time was when we left the house, you
screamed at us, you bald piece of shit. I believe that,
and I'm a fat fuck whatever. No, But the point
thing is, I don't remember that happening before this.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think that's well know, in the wire, I call
you a fat fuck.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Okay, you didn't call him a bald piece of that.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Maybe that's the first time I referenced you bald.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
But I said you bald, fucking you fat piece of ship.
That's what I said. I think it is because I
was only in two episodes this season.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Oh is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh okay, yeah, okay. So then you go back to
Anne's house to ask for the short hair.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I was wondering, this is gonna sound a little crazy.
Do you have the the shorthand head, the one that
I that I cut right?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You want the short haired Judy head? Why would you
want that short haired Judy head?
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Just like it?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And she's like, why why would you want that? You're like,
I like it?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, insanity.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, And while she goes to up to the kids
to see if she still has the shorthaired version, you
go to the bathroom to check your penis because you've
got an irritation there, and the whole monitor walks in
on you, of course, and then Jonas the locksmith, shows up.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You said, I thought you fixed it. I had to
go get some parts, which is soapersorb because it was
like a simple little pushlock, Like what parts?
Speaker 4 (41:12):
What do you I've never trusted a pushlock, really, I
don't trust them. Yeah, yeah, the bolt lock, you give me,
give me a bolt.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
And by the way, Jonah's played that perfectly, Yeah, not
non plus that Larry could give a ship.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, So she gives you the short hair head back
and you get the new head and you bring it
to me and say, all right, I got the head
and I'm like, nah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Something's wrong. Yeah, something is that right?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I don't know. You thought it was okay, but yeah,
there was something some suspicious and it's not.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's not really working.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's scene really made me laugh last night when I
was watching it. The two idiots at the door. Yeah,
I'm standing behind him and we're both kind of talking
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
And when I got in, but you can see it
in my face. Please please don't notice. Don't notice.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And the dynamic of the relationship of the three of
us continuing till now the other day with such a
it's such a great relations fun. So next we're at
the screening part two.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
And I'm sorry the screening part two.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I know, And Jeff asked you, is your assistancying anybody?
It's just so gross.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I am a scumback, that's my character.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
And you know, And the Michaelsons show up with Tara,
and Tara has the Judy doll and I see the
doll and I see the long hair, and then I
realize what it was to connect the dots, connect the dots,
and I love that that The rest of it is mined, but.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You're miming it. But there isn't anybody for a million
miles around that doesn't know what voice is coming out
of that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
You feel we established that, yeah, And I'm just I
know what you two idiots did?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
You know? You cut the hair, you fix fucking I
love that scene. And then you go to the bathroom
and the men's room is an olfactory nightmare.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well done. That was the first time I had heard
that phrase. I've heard a few times since. What is
the what does that mean? Smell? Old factory? Factory has
to do with your sense of smell?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, okay, I mean somebody took a dump in there
and it was disgusting. And you asked Cheryl to go
look in the women's room because you got to pee
because you're constantly drinking water. So Cheryl looks in the
women's room, all clear. You asked her to stand guard.
But this is the subtle Cheryl revenge where she you
just see it on her mind.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
She has a smile and walks away.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Smile walks away. Nothing needs to be said. It was
the same thing in the end of the episode. We
did the other day, the Trick or Treat episode, same
kind of thing where Cheryl just smiles because you just
drive up to the house and this is her moment
where she's gonna fuck you.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I really like that Treat episode.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
It was a very funny episode.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I love that scene outside with the cop.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
When we did that episode, we were talking about how
fantastic scrove Van wasn't that he was great in that episode.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
We talked about that Grove Van comedian writer that we
all know.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Cheryl leaves and then you have a moment's like, well,
you want the bottle of water in the screening with you,
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You put it down your pants.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
But by the way he was walking out and everything
would be okay, big ginty bink, and you turn around
to get the water and shove it down. I want
to I want to take the water into the theater.
I don't want that woman to win. I wanted I
wanted to have water.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's right, and nothing wrong with having water in the theater.
It's got a closed top.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I don't like being told. I don't like being told
what to do.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
And Tara comes running in and she's like, oh, I
love the doll, the dolls.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
The thing about her. As she comes in, she's very
confused about Larry bing in the bathroom, and like a switch,
she's the happy little girl with a.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Delightful little girl.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Thank you for fixing Judy's hand, and she hugs you
and yeah, bummy, that bollman in the bathroom and there's
something hard in his pants and horrified people's sounds all.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
The people too, Yeah, yeah, all the villagers, the villagers.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And like a universal horror mone exactly, and you want
to jump out the window and fade out.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yeah, it's it's one of those endings that just worked
out perfectly, perfectly.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
So you didn't start with the end in this So
tell about when you ran into her research. It's just
like about a year ago you ran into this girl.
It was when you were doing the thing at the
Greek Theater.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Yeah, yeah, Bob, Bob Whitey, Yeah, we directed this episode,
directed the episode. He was interviewing me the Greek and
unbeknownst to me, he wanted to surprise me and he
brought the girl who played Tara, who was now an
adult he's almost thirty, I think, And she came up
on stage and you know, we had a little job
(45:59):
and what did she say it? I asked her if
I had traumatized her full life by having to say
that line. And she wasn't traumatized at all. She she
loved the experience of doing it, and she seems to
have turned out great.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Is she an actress?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, she's an actress. Really. Yeah, I'd like to use
her again. We should, Yeah, we should use it.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And that's the episode, and it's to me, it is
one of the most perfect half hours of comedy in
the history.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Look at you, well, I think so.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
It's a perfect half hours.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Pretty great too, Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's why I
wanted to if I had one show to do, you.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Do it for my friend?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I have ye, no future. Let me ask you a question.
Have you ever been to Disneyland? Yeah? Did you go
on any of the rides? I went on the tea
cups perfectly, I would go on it would be the
tea cups.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Oh my god, Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I picture you, of course on the tea cup. I
did it once and threw up. Threw up. Oh no,
that's dizzying. You know, they spend an I don't know,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I don't like the.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
But that's why it's funny that he did it.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Was there a reason you asked that question?
Speaker 3 (47:26):
No, I just know when I asked him things with Larry.
Here's with Larry when I'm around him, when we do
our conversation on stay. I'm an investigative reporter, okay, and
I want to ask the questions that I know and
my way. Can I be honest with you? I've never
asked him a question like that that hasn't led to
something amazing, and so in my mind right then, I went,
(47:47):
I'm trying to picture Larry at Disneyland. You know, things
pop in my mind, and I know it's going to
be interesting. A if he's been there or not? And
then B did you go on a ride? And then
who the fuck expects the tea cup? You're a big
ball of gold. You fuck her?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And thank you for coming?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, thank you, Larry, my pleasure. Yeah. So well, we'll
let you know when you're needed extent. By the way,
it's always your option not to.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
But you know, I think maybe the ski lift, Yeah,
but that's so many seasons later.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Well that's four, I think four or five? Five?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Five? Yeah, five, one of my favorite seasons. Yeah, by
the way, was.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
It Larry David in the what and hipsters fuck? And
you know what? When you delivered that line, you immediately
looked at me. I think you sensed and of course
I exploded, not because Larry David upstairs. Guys, Thanks lat okay.
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All Right, abstusiastic you who do you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Always need to recover from the ship? That? He says?
That is that scenario? Yeah, it's hilarious. I'm Jeff Garland.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And we're here with Larry David. Yes, and we're discussing
season two the doll Okay, episode seven.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
By the way, feel free to ask me any question
about the doll or any any question about anything.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
How did this episode come up?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here's how it came up. Anything we want my.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Daughter, I don't know. Let's see what year are we
talking about to that. She must have been six and
she had a doll and I was looking at the doll,
and I thought, what if I cut the dolls? I thought,
I'd really like to give this dollar haircut. What would
(01:18):
happen if I did? Would should be upset?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And so that was the derivation.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, but by the way, people like us and I'm
talking about comedian people. We have a million thoughts that
run the gamut from that to really inappropriate, and we
don't act on it because you didn't cut the dolls hair, right, No, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You thought what if I did? And she'd be upset
and thus the germ of a classic.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So we start out you're in a pitch with ABC
with Julia pitching on that Evelyn or would you know?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Would Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And you're drinking a lot of water. You have to
drink water eight times.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
A day, setting up the end.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, correct, And so you already had the ending in mind.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I don't know if I did. We needed the bottle
of water because you had to have because the bottle
of water didn't add anything to the storyline except for
his argument and the ending.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And you know, a lot of peeing having to use
the bathroom at the Michaelson's house, right, A lot of that?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah. Have you ever been told a
lot of peeing in your work? No? Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And you're there and you find out that Jason is
also going to be working with ABC, playing a motivational speaker,
and your question is where did you meet? Because prior
to that you had the whole mischia goss with Jason
about having to go to his.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Office and show one. Yeah, right, yes, it was just
a joke. Yeah, yeah, did he come to you or well?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
By the way, One thing I love about your character,
nothing is lecto nothing. If there's anything done to you,
it will be investigated until the end. And you may
distr right, but I always find that usually you dig
a bigger hole for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Usually as a grudge bearer. I think, so, yes, where'd
you meet?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then you're pondering because we see how deeply it
upsets you that you actually met that Jason came to them,
but you had to go to him, and then you're
part of the ABC family.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Come to the screening of Harriet.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The hardest, the.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Hardest thing about this show, as I recall or one
of the things that I didn't care for that I
had to do. There have to be two screenings in
the same theater. And it's so stupid because something happened
the first screening, right, and then some of course the
ending the second screening. But you're coming back for part
two tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow becomes hilarious. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You actually throw around. Yeah, and then your question, what's
the difference between Harriet, Yeah, that's later that this meeting.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, that's later, Oh that's yeah, Yeah, that's that is.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
The last line of this.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, but you know, who wants to go to a
screening of Harriet Beach of Stowe?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You know? And then's history buffs just saying I.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Never understand why you go to a screening of something
that's going to be on television. Why do you need
to go to a screen because he's part of the
your house comfortably watching it on television. It's not like
a movie that's going to be in a movie theater.
Doesn't make any sense to me, and I'm sure it
didn't it to Larry.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's a movie theater that we've used since I don't
think before Parent with that premiere is there? Well, our
premiers have been numerous times, Yeah, maybe even three times.
But on Paramount Pictures a lot. There's a big screening,
I mean theater. It's a theater.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Our last premiere was there, Yeah, season eleven and then
Lane Michaelson asked you you're going to come? You say,
your wife's Susie's a friend of the art director.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
How is Susie.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He asked your host, Susie, and then you'd say you're
staying in a hotel.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We split.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I had completely forgotten that your characters that's split up. Yes,
when I was watching it last night, I thought, oh
my god, they're not together, because.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We already did the thor episode where we split up
with you where you had to go get his porn
right right, That was prior to that. We got back
together obviously because it was such a happy couple. Yes,
Julia gets out of it by saying her son has
pink eye very wisely, which we know was bullshit.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No one argues that pinky now, it's one of those ones.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And after that, that's when you say, what's the difference
between Harriet Peter Stowe and Harriet Tubman? Who Harriet Tubman
comes back again? We're not going to say how right,
And at the screening you set another thing up. This
is the beauty of this episode. You say to Cheryl,
I think we might be due for some sex tonight,
and Lane Michaelson COOMSI introduces himself and a woman stops
(05:47):
you going into the theater.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Excuse me, there's no put or drink in the theater.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm sorry, Really, I got like a condition. I really
need to have this.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You're gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Finish it out here.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's my favorite stop at of all time.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And then I find out a minute later that she's
just somebody attending the screen.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
She doesn't work for this, by the way. Gold yeah, gold,
She says.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, to drink in the theater, and what if
I have a condition.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, she was hard on you. You thought there were
strict rules and she was in charge of which made
the second party yeah, yeah, who are you? Yeah, there's
no way other people wouldn't react that way unless they're repressed.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know, I might not say something they know.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh yes, that's that's absurd. That's absurd that she doesn't
work there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But most people wouldn't say.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
There was a five percent jackass factor, people who just
don't like rules to be broken regardless, and so yeah,
but there might be a five percent chance that someone
would go, you know, the you I supposed to bring.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Face that before. But the person who is so so
in control, it's a rule, you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I have to tell you when i'm when when there's
a rule okay that I think is a legitimate rule,
and I see somebody breaking a legitimate rule, I don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, I don't like this person. Who who do you
think when you.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
See somebody litter, for example, exactly?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, but if you were coming in with a big
thing of food and a sandwich, but a bottle, yeah,
it's usually.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Even no food or drink. Water is water? That is acceptable? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, But I feel the same way you see somebody
doing something a litter or or something we did in
the later opposode, taking two spaces in a in a
parking lot, or you know the big parker.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
By the way, it happens every day when you drive
every day when you drive there, you know, no, when
people say I'm not going to follow this rule, I'm
going to cut in here, do this, do that every
day when I drive in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know what happens to me all the time because
I have a dog. I see a the dog owners
not picking up the poop. That perfect, and I say
something all the time because I am that woman.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Okay, But meanwhile I brought the water into the theater
and that was no big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That was no big deal. But the fight between you
and her was hilarious. Excuse me, Yeah, do you work here?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No? How come you told me to get rid of
the water. Then I saw you coming with water.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
There's no water.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's the rules.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't understand that was your concern. You don't work here.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's the rules. The sign says no food or drink
in the theater. I'm sure we would all like to
have a w.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, we're all dying of thirst. What are you the
hallway monitor here?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Who are you that the rules don't apply?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm applying the Golden rule?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't think the Golden rule applies here.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
If you had water, would you want me to tell
you not to bring it in?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How about common courtesy, buddy, that.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Doesn't supersede the Golden rule? That's the big one. Nuts.
You are nuts jack ass. Don't don't bring any pencil
pencils in? Loser. Excuse me, missus character, We've got homework.
You forgot to give us homework.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Are you the whole monitor, the Golden rule? All of
the teacher? You forgot to tell us we have homework.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
By the way, depends in pencils? Was I think the
last one? Are we going to be using.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Excuse me, missus cantor was that a teacher?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You really? My first we've gone.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Homework, and Cheryl for the millionth time saying all right,
all right, I mean every episode Cheryl has said so
far that we've watched.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Then you're at the Michaelson's house and you're telling Jeff
about the fight, and you see the whole monitor woman
we don't know her name talking to Anne Michaelson, which
was Rita Wilson, and Jeff says to you, you want
to go to dinner tomorrow before part two.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Now that's just the beginning.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Now I wouldn't do that to Jeff, but because it
was so early in the run of the series, it
didn't seem to make a difference that I said at
the Jeff, our relationship has grown, has grown, and any
wondn't give a shit by the way the real life,
that's our relationship that you would say to me, no,
don't do that. But still, this is part of the
joy of doing the show for me is to be
(10:17):
able to say things to people that I can't say
in my life, and one of them is you want
to go to dinner tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
No, I don't yeah, but it was Jeff who got
the brunt of it at that time. I loved it,
by the way, I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, let me ask you, Jeff, I have a
note here and then you start talking about that you
liked it because she's showing a lot of cleavage.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, when I don't think that was in the script. Yeah,
when they walked away, I'm telling the ABC guy, what
happens in the second half? Is she in there because
there's a.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Lot of cleavage. Yeah, I don't know that your character
would do that. Now, what do you think? Oh, totally again,
how the character hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
My character has not evolved. Actually, if anything, I more
defender of Larry every season. Yes, and everyone understands my
feeling towards you. That's why my character has a million
and one affairs. So I think he would definitely question
whether there's been more cleavage.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, Larry then has a frozen Margarita has a
chess freeze, and I.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Must have I think there was a period that I
went through I would get that chess freeze right right.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, I just thought, now you freeze yourself on purpose?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And Anne Michaelson comes over and she's clearly doesn't like
you already, she's already heard from.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Who have a volunteer to be a hole monitor?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Not me either, I hated the whole monitors, the rules, rosies,
and she's she's clearly doesn't like you. Ready, you go
to the bathroom, there's no lock, and then the strings playing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You're holding your foot against the door and trying to
go away.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
The funniest one is holding the foot against the door
because the toilet is a mile away. The idea that
you thought I could reach you. Yeah, so stupid, so stupid, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I think that's a great example of how music
is used in that show. You know that, you know
that the strings there was just so yes, how did you?
How did while we have you here? If I may,
is there somebody who originally came up with all this music?
Was there a music editor?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well? I heard the theme bum bump.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I heard that on a bank commercial, right, And I
told Laura and my assistant, I said, I heard this
music that I love and maybe I'll use it one day.
And then two years later, I said, remember that music
I told you to say?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
If?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
She said yes, So that's in some kind of library right,
and once we got that music from the library, there
were tons of other little little pieces that were usable
for the show. Like like like I said, I told Steve,
Steve Rash, Steve the editor, I said, I want like
(12:59):
Italian circus music. Yeah, all kinds of Italian circus music,
because I felt like, even if something doesn't work, you
put that circus music in there and it makes everything
lighter and funnier. So yeah, that's that's where we get
all the music from this library. But occasionally I will say, oh,
(13:19):
you know it would be great here some strauswaltz, or
or you know it would be great here some Rossini,
and I'll know a particular piece that I'll suggest piece.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, do you listen that much? No, No, classical music.
By the way, You've surprised me over the years, and
I get a big laugh out of it. With your
knowledge of popular music, and you know the words. They
are accurate from one word to the next. And I'll say,
have you listened to that you like their music? Beach
Boys whatever? No, No, I've heard it a bunch. And
(13:54):
I you start saying, but I do like the bitch Boys.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, I know, I know, I'm example, But is there
a separate editor who does music or is that all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The Steve used to do all the music. I'm not
sure if he does it all now because the music is.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So important in the show.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
One of the things that Jeff and I noticed when
we were doing the original pilot it didn't have the
music and it felt so I mean, it had some
cute little jazz music and was fine, but it felt
so different. It felt so different the whole world of it.
The music creates the world of it. Okay, so you
need to find another bathroom because this bathroom is not working.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For no, it's no good.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
A lot of always a lot of bathroom themes of life.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There was always humor, as long as it's not about
statological scatological. There's a lot of humor and bathrooms there is.
We even did a big episode about that later. My
favorite bathroom bit was the one I did on the
plane where I went into the bathroom and there was turbulence. Yes,
that was I think that was eight. I think season four.
(14:59):
It was an New York one. Oh, it was going
to New York to shoot the producers.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think, oh, that was that one.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, So you go upstairs to find another bathroom and
you enter the little girl's room and her name was Tara.
Little girl's name was Sarah, and she's playing with her
dolls and she asked you do you have to go potty?
And you come out of the bathroom and she's brushing
her doll, Judy's hair, which is very long hair.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
How was she cast this little girl? Because she was terrific.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Audition Yes, she auditioned. By the way, her rhythms, she
was great. Yeah, her rhythms were like because she would
go from A to Z in a millisecond and then
go right back, right back.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, she was terrific.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She was, And I want to get to running into
her later in life, but after we get more storyline. Yeah,
there close to thirty.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Shut your great grandma's balls really.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Two thousand and one?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I think she's like twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, but I want to I want to hold it
because I want to get more storyline and because I
don't want to give that away. Okay, we'll be right back,
Stay tuned, and we're back. So she's brushing and she
(16:14):
asked you to give her a haircut.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What is he supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But by the way, he's already having so much joy
being with the girl.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Talking to her at the party.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Well, that for sure, but that's one of the things
that you know, Larry.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Was I think I commented on the long hair, right, yes,
very long hair. I don't think I brought up would
you would you want me to get it? I didn't
say that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
She asked me.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, she said, do you think you could give it
a haircut?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And you take out your Swiss army knife and have
a very funny line about the Swiss let everybody do
their fighting for them while they ski and eat chocolate,
and you cut it. It's a Dorothy Hamel thing and
it looks great, and she's all happy, and she even
says the doll looks like pretty yes, and you say.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's a very French look. Now, I would take her out.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then you go back downstairs and you pass the
hall monitor on the way. We never know her name,
and Cheryl walks out of the powder room says to you,
there's no lock.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You're like, I know, and she asks you to guard
the door.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Hair.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Why did you cut her hair?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, she asked me. She asked me to give it
a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You walked into my daughter's room and you cut.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Her Judy's hair.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, she asked me to give it a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And did you have to tell her that maybe it
wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I thought it was understood. How could you not.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Understand that a little girl has a vivid imagination.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She's extremely different.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
That little girl doesn't know that her Dolly's hair is
not going to you know who this is.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
This is Judy. She is a collector's item.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
We're not going to be able to find another one
I got before she was born.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, I can replace it.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm sure I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You can replace it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is like Liberty's a b baby out of production. Op, okay,
not coming back, is never gonna go back?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
What is that? I guess I missed a strand there.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I got a Swiss army.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Let me get it. I got a Swiss army.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
kN if I could, I could get that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Mommy, mommy, look at my doll's hair.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He cut it.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's what she could do. She could go from really
warm and calm to insane in a matter of seconds. Yeah,
case she came down. Yeah it is it. Yeah, your
characters thinking like that, what I do it?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And once again, you didn't really do anything wrong, and
yet no good deed goes unpunished.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
She asked you to cut the dolls exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, and by the way, you did a good job
cutting the hair. I thought I did.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, he left one little strand, but that's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, but was that not part of the script? The
strand probably not, I don't remember. It certainly gives u
Rita Wilson's character ammunition towards you. It's such an awkward moment.
It's great.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I don't think it was if I recall the outline whatever,
all right, and You're like, she asked me to cut
the hair, and Anne's like, did you tell her it
wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Of course you didn't tell her it wouldn't grow back
to what a freaking idiot. She wouldn't grow back?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That comes back?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Thought it was understood, It comes later on. That's one
of my favorite lines in the show.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yes, I thought it was understood, and and she has
a vivid imagination.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Rita was terrific in this episode.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Did you mention that she goes to Merman?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That was later?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
That was later?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And then Lane Michaelson walks in on.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Ryl in the back because I left my post had
to deal with the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Paul Hilarious was going on, and Anne Michaelson says, this
is Judy.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
She's a collector's item.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We could not find another oh oh pee out of production,
and the girl's crying and the haircuts ugly, and you say,
I can replace it. And then Jeff says, Sammy, our
daughter who was a son prior to that but suddenly
became a daughter and also aged quite a bit in
the year in between, has a huge doll collection. We'll
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go to my house, will zip in, will zip out,
because you know you're not really allowed to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Right, Jeff's pretty sure that he's got the Judy's got
the Judy.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Also the fact that I wouldn't take into consideration my
daughter's feelings. I'm serving you. I gotta get Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You know, she had a giant doll collection and you
didn't think it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
But I didn't take a beat to go. And that's right,
why my character is shitty, you know, tell me about
it all right. Stop.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So Cheryl likes at the bathroom and she just looks
at you with that look which.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I found in the first couple of seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
There's more of that with Ryl than there was later on,
like more of her going to get you back. There's
been several episodes where she's going to kind of get
you back, and then you're home and you're like, I
fucked up.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
That's a real Brooklyn thing. Yeah, I fucked up. But
by the way, if there's one thing that in my
experience that you do to a woman is when they're
yammering about something, then they're angry that you make a
joke or you do a silly voice. They're infuriated. So
this time, when I saw you do that, I was like,
oh my.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
God, it makes it worse.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh my god, that's what's.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Seriously, you're not you're not validating my feelings.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm admitting I made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, but not really. Yeah, any weren't really.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So Cheryl's like, he saw everything, Like, think of the
worst possible thing. So I was sitting there, what did
he say, She's sitting on whatever. She was not happy,
And no, he.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Saw her pretty much completely naked. That's what she asserts.
You know, he saw everything right, And she tells me
humiliating by the way.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
She tells you that she could never see this, that
I just wanted.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
To get breath to go. Why did I add that
that's humiliating? Well, of course it's humiliatd No, I know
that you just answered my question. Of course it's humiliating.
Did I want to just participate more in the show?
What was my choice in doing that? Let's move on.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Should we analyze that?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Why did you add that? Because I didn't want anyone
at home to go? Why the fuck did he ask that?
And I know our audience, I'm assuming is very intelligent,
and I just don't want to let anything go by
where you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Cheryld then says, get anything to worry about with that,
I'm moving on. Cheryl then says, you know, I can
never face this man again. I'm humiliated. And Cheryl's like,
you have to go somewhere else. We can't do it
at ABC, she can't go to NBC's because of ge and.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The period bridges.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You can't HBO. You totally fucked with.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're running out and you say it's a mood point
if we can't replace the doll and then you go
into divorce.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Is this a divorce? And that's where we see that
dynamic with Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's great, you know your relationship, how she plays off
you and you play with.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You know, in my in my real marriage, I would
never say to my wife, what do you think maybe
a little sex tonight. Yeah, I wouldn't say that I
have to put a move on the way if I
was dating you know, you know I don't. I don't
say let's have sex. I know, I never say that.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Does she always have to initiate? No, No, you'll initiate,
but you just won't verbalize it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, or I'll I'll pick up a cue or something, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, always looking for the cues.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
And so the divorce, if we had a fight, I
would never go divorce.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah. You were clearly joking though when you said divorce
and she knew that. Yeah, I'm just saying I would
never have said that. You can't say that life. Yeah,
you're in a fight. You're in a fight.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It shows the playfulness that Larry Show Larry and Show
Cheryl had in their relationship, which I think is important.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, then you go look for the Judy doll. You
drop up our house, remember that house we had in
the hills.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nicholas came fell on the sponge cake.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, yes, yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Wasn't that the house? It was the house. It was
the house.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yes, that's next season.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I fell on the sponge Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And you come and you go up to Sammy's room.
There's a million fucking dolls. I've never seen so many
dolls in my That was a purpose to that. And
Jeff says, Judy there you go.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
No, yes, it is, of course it is. No, it's
not her. That's Judy. No, it's not Judy. I've seen Judy.
That's Judy.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Judy's brown eyes.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, blue eyes. The eyes, I do know the eyes.
Come on, I see my dough Judy brown eyes. I
made I said it on my head, brown eye. I know.
The song is Sweet Judy blue eyes. And she has
brown eyes. That's brown eyes. That's not Judy, Sweet Judy
brown eyes. Holy ship Judy brown eyes. Now, by the way,
(24:57):
when he said that, when he came up with that,
we both exploded. It took a while to get back
into it because that is nuts. I remembered her. I
put it together, Sweet Judy brown eyes. It's fucking hilarious.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
But then you spot Judy up on the top shelf
and you go to get it and the shelf fall,
which was an accident.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yes, it was. Every time we did it. Shelf was fine.
Maybe it was the last time or no, it was
the last the first time that no, not the shell
fell down. It was the first take. I don't remember.
You would know that. I don't think so, because anyhow,
point being is that was not planned, and Larry and
(25:38):
I just stuck with it. We knew you were coming shortly.
We just stuck with it and we're like scrambling and
that whole thing of me putting it up and saying
I'm worried. I'm just made that up on the spot
because we had to justify the thing being on the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And sometimes that's the best things that we go.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
For, you, Yeah, because that makes you go what the
fuck is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And that does happen frequently where it's a happy accident,
where it just makes everything better.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Why. One of the keys to improvising is don't stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Keep going and the door slim, Susie's here, fear fear fear.
I love that. And Larry, what are you gonna do?
You take the head off and you stick it down
your pants.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Head screw the head screws off pretty much all yeah, yeah,
so yeah, there was something about the way this show
just unfolded that I love because now I've got this
head and and I'm going back to Rita Wilson missus
Michaelson to give her the head.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Then I have to go back. Then we see you
about it that that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah yeah, so and also you stick the head down
because the.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Thing is going to Usually I need a number of
ideas to get through an episode, and and and the
idea is okay, the ideas will I try and make
them all connect intersect at some point, but with this show,
it's really just one idea, cutting this doll's hair. There
are little things around it that support the idea.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like the bottle of water.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah, like the bottle of water, the relationship with the
woman who you know, the whole monitor, But that's just
supporting the overall idea of this doll, of cutting the
doll's hair. It's one of the few episodes I think
in the series, maybe the only one where there was
really only one strong theme from beginning to end. I
(27:31):
might be wrong, but that's somehow that's in my memory.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
By the way I watch it, and I think that
episode was so dense and everything perfectly led to the
next thing. It was like the dominoes on the Tonight Show.
You don't know where it's going to end, you do, obviously.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's about legs, and so this idea of cutting this
doll's hair, it just had a lot of legs. You
could see it going from here to there to there
to there to there, like twice as many scenes as
an ordinary story would happen. Right, most stories, most ideas
don't have legs like that. You can only get, you know,
(28:07):
maybe three four scenes the most out of it. But
this one had so many legs that it covered the
entire episode.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in awe of your writing on this
episode because I always refer to it, but I always
referring to that hiking. This is your truly net hike
in you know, car fifty four, where you don't know
where it's going to end, even though because the connections
we're talking about, you're about to get a rash, like
how did that? You know? Steps and steps, and I
(28:37):
find that fasting. He's the only the writer who I've said,
you know, that's a nice compliment. It is for any
of you at home, just google that hiking. I don't
want to explain.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Okay, So Susie's here, take the head off and the
music is so great on this takes the head off,
sticks it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
In his pants and I'm screaming, you're supposed to call first,
and I walk in and you're pretending to put the
shelf up right, which was an accident. Again, that was,
you know, And I noticed for myself this is really
the first beginning of the Susie Green.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Look.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I've got the animal print vest, I've got a goal,
I think. So there was little hints of it before,
but this is this is season two.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, I remember supervising what you wore. I was really
on top of it the first couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I look out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I go, no, it's too much, it's too much, it's
too much. And then finally I just gave up.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I gave up. Now every time we work, we have
no idea and it's a surprise. The one you wore
yesterday with the side loops. Yeah, the orange outfit was
pure insanity.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah. Yeah, but when I come on set, this is
always a reveal.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It is though, it's always funny.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So you're pretending to put the shelf up, and you
say to me, I'm like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And you say to Sammy's shelf was always bothered, always
worrying you.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I've been thinking about the shelf.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
That Larry put up all the shelves in his house,
which is the most unbelie.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's where the show goes. It's like someone says something.
You go, oh, I can make this, and I say, what.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Are you, mister California closets.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
You know, the idea of you putting up all the shelves,
it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And then I say to you, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Have you ever put up a shelf in my life? Yeah?
A shelf. I've never even held a shelf.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Have you ever hung a picture back on forty third Street?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Forty third Street, All the pictures were on the floor, okay,
there was nothing on the wall, nothing. Every picture was
leaning leaning on the ground against the wall.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And then I say to you, you think I didn't
notice you, mister inconspicuous at the screening.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And then okay, then part two I bring up part
two again?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You a part two?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah? I have to keep setting up part two because
it's so crazy made.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Maybe I'll go and then you're in the car.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Told that in a second. Yeah, the idea that there
is a part two and it's a week apart. Yeah,
it is so funny, so funny. It's not a week apart,
next day, next day, because I was watching it, think
what that is?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You have to go back the next day.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And then you're in the car and you pull the
dolls head out of your pants and there's a little
itch down.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
There going on from that synthetic hair.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And then Sammy screams, talk about the casting of Sammy audition, audition,
she was adorable.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But my favorite thing that you did before we get
to Sammy screaming when we're driving in the car, you
broke a record for saying the word penis. Penis this
I got to look at my penis? Or is that
the next scene?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's the next scene.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'll talk me okay, but I still love that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Sammy screams, Mommy, someone caught off, Judy said, which again
shows what a horrible father you were that you thought
you would know it.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's why when I said my daughter's got it, don't worry.
I thought, this is of course going to screw him up.
But by the way, I'm a subtle asshole on the ship,
just subtle. You see it in an explosive way after
I've done it. But when I suggest Hilary, I'm about
to do something, it tickles him. Really, you're going to
do that, you know, especially my affairs? What's wrong you? Okay,
(32:35):
go do that. And by the way, one of the
cardinal rules I have in life is if I have
a friend and they're having an affair, please don't tell me.
I don't want to be exchanging. And that's either way,
it's disastrous. You want to do shit like that, keep
that to yourself because I'm not going to be a
part of your festival.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Has anybody ever asked you to, like, you know, use
your home or anything.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Never a home, But people have told me that they're
having affairs, And right away I go, why the fuck
did you do that? Why did you do that? You know?
Have you ever had anyone tell you, not.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Like confide some big secret, but just a very matter
of factly right right right right right, like they were
saying they were going.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
To a nick game, you know, yeah, yeah, h going
to see my guma.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, all right, So you bring the head to Anne
Michaelsion and she's, you know, suspicious.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
All right, it looks okay. I'll take it upstairs and
make sure up again.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Something we passed over is you doing carry grant to
the little girl. But she has no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Judy, Judy, Judy. So she's going to go upstairs and
you say, may I use your bathroom? You start to
follow her upstairs because even when there's no one in
the house, you don't want to use the powder room
with no lock and the hole hold on.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That is fucking hilarious that your assumption that you can
go up there and use the little girl.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I went to the girl's room. Yeah, I don't want
to use the powder room there's no lock. It made
perfect sense, no, but it was really funny.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And the locksmith is fixing the lock, and that was
of course Jonas.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Dear Jonas, Dear Jonas. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Jonas
was on our crew for so many years, and yeah,
so sometimes we cast crew members because they're fucking perfect,
Like he was perfect for the locksmith and he already
knew the show inherently. I'm not gonna try and be funny.
I'm going to be matter of fact because Larry does
(34:34):
the funny list. But it was really good a couples.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We've also noticed several times up until this point. George,
our prop master, was used as a person.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
The water splashing in the Shack episode. He's in there
twice and at the watch McCall with the asking him
for advice when you're trying to put a tire on.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I don't know, Okay, So Anne Michaelson comes in
the head is fixed, and this is where you go
into the whole discussion about that she's gifted.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
This is this is a great thing. She tells me
how gifted are Yeah, and you say it's.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
A shame she didn't know the hair. It was a
good throwback.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
She's so brilliant, yet she didn't know that the dolls
hair is. That is another character. You won't let people
throw your bullshit. You won't. It's truly And by the way,
who hasn't encountered an asshole like that about how special?
He said?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Murmured, Well, one of my pet peeves is when people
start telling me how gifted their children are.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't want to hear how gifted your fucking children are?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know? And by the way, most children that are
very gifted do not do well as an adult. I
read a whole thing, oh really in Bullshit magazine. No,
I read it. I think the times I don't know.
And then do you like the fun facts I throw
in you?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Fascinating? All right?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And then you guys leave and you were driving up
the driveway to Larry's house and who's there waiting for you?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Where's the head? I know you took the Dollph's head?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Where is it?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Where's the fucking head?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That that? Now, this one is an iconic scene.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It isactly the spaghetti western music is playing, which I
was upset to realize that you. I thought it was
my theme. It had been played earlier for Thor, but
then it became.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
My Yeah, then it became your theme. Yeah, And so
did you pick that or did Steve? Steve? Oh, brilliant move, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, brilliant move. And where's the head? And this scene
just plays out.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Because you're speaking like the Susie we know now.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right in a big way, and it's really I mean, well,
we had the Thor episode before this where I was
somewhat in that shad. But I think really this scene
really established the fear that Jeff and Larry they get this.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Stamp on Susie. This is the journey we're going to
have with it.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
So totally justified what you were saying. Yeah, yeah, we
took you were we took Judy's head.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
And imagine, you know, from my point of view, why
why would you take a doll's head out of your
daughter's daughter?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
It makes no sense whatsoever. It's so insane. Think about
it from your point of view.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, it's completely insane. That's why I say some votos.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We took we took a doll's head from your daughter.
How could you possibly imagine what it could have been?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And it sets up that has been going on for
twelve seasons where you two were trying to put something off,
put something over on me, which is just ridiculous and
it never works and you live in fear of Susie
Green And it's one of, of course, one of my
favorite scenes.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
By the way, at the time it was one of
our because remember we got in the car and drove
off and we're going, wow, wow, is that great? Yeah,
it was really.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I also remember in that scene when I say stop
scratching your balls and tell me where it is. That
wasn't looping, And that was the first time I looped.
Oh really, yes, that was in looping because you needed
that for story purpose to further along.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I didn't actually say that in the episode. So that's
an example.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now, wow, And people always ask that question is it
all improvised? And that's an example of a time when
a line was not improvised because it was needed for story.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Rare.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's rare, but sometimes it's needed for story purposes. And
then you get into the edge.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So now this becomes a little a bit of a
problem for me just in writing, because now I have
to go back to Rita Wilson.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, and see if she has the.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Dull the original hair, the cut hair, the short hair,
and so now so now it's like, oh, long hair,
short hair, It's good.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It getting confusing.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
How much do we have to emphasize this that that
became a bit of a problem to go back and
if the is the audience still following this, Now I
have to go back to her house and ask if
she has the doll whose hair I cut off, the
head yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
And it was in this next scene when you're in
the car that you start talking about your penis, witches
and a lot of that's the record.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
For penis talk. And I love the way you're just
casually saying, I gotta clean my penis, I gotta get examined.
I don't want to go to the penis doctor.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Like it was just penis penis, penis, and you say
you've got an allergic reaction, my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you go to the doctor, say, oh, I stuck a dolls.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, by the way, good to One thing that we
skipped that really was another thing that we rode for
a long time was when we left the house, you
screamed at us, you bald piece of shit. I believe that,
and I'm a fat fuck whatever. No, But the point
thing is, I don't remember that happening before this.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think that's well know, in the wire, I call
you a fat fuck.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Okay, you didn't call him a bald piece of that.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Maybe that's the first time I referenced you bald.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
But I said you bald, fucking you fat piece of ship.
That's what I said. I think it is because I
was only in two episodes this season.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Oh is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh okay, yeah, okay. So then you go back to
Anne's house to ask for the short hair.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I was wondering, this is gonna sound a little crazy.
Do you have the the shorthand head, the one that
I that I cut right?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You want the short haired Judy head? Why would you
want that short haired Judy head?
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Just like it?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And she's like, why why would you want that? You're like,
I like it?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, insanity.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, And while she goes to up to the kids
to see if she still has the shorthaired version, you
go to the bathroom to check your penis because you've
got an irritation there, and the whole monitor walks in
on you, of course, and then Jonas the locksmith, shows up.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You said, I thought you fixed it. I had to
go get some parts, which is soapersorb because it was
like a simple little pushlock, Like what parts?
Speaker 4 (41:12):
What do you I've never trusted a pushlock, really, I
don't trust them. Yeah, yeah, the bolt lock, you give me,
give me a bolt.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
And by the way, Jonah's played that perfectly, Yeah, not
non plus that Larry could give a ship.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, So she gives you the short hair head back
and you get the new head and you bring it
to me and say, all right, I got the head
and I'm like, nah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Something's wrong. Yeah, something is that right?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I don't know. You thought it was okay, but yeah,
there was something some suspicious and it's not.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's not really working.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's scene really made me laugh last night when I
was watching it. The two idiots at the door. Yeah,
I'm standing behind him and we're both kind of talking
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
And when I got in, but you can see it
in my face. Please please don't notice. Don't notice.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And the dynamic of the relationship of the three of
us continuing till now the other day with such a
it's such a great relations fun. So next we're at
the screening part two.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
And I'm sorry the screening part two.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I know, And Jeff asked you, is your assistancying anybody?
It's just so gross.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I am a scumback, that's my character.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
And you know, And the Michaelsons show up with Tara,
and Tara has the Judy doll and I see the
doll and I see the long hair, and then I
realize what it was to connect the dots, connect the dots,
and I love that that The rest of it is mined, but.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You're miming it. But there isn't anybody for a million
miles around that doesn't know what voice is coming out
of that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
You feel we established that, yeah, And I'm just I
know what you two idiots did?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
You know? You cut the hair, you fix fucking I
love that scene. And then you go to the bathroom
and the men's room is an olfactory nightmare.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well done. That was the first time I had heard
that phrase. I've heard a few times since. What is
the what does that mean? Smell? Old factory? Factory has
to do with your sense of smell?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, okay, I mean somebody took a dump in there
and it was disgusting. And you asked Cheryl to go
look in the women's room because you got to pee
because you're constantly drinking water. So Cheryl looks in the
women's room, all clear. You asked her to stand guard.
But this is the subtle Cheryl revenge where she you
just see it on her mind.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
She has a smile and walks away.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Smile walks away. Nothing needs to be said. It was
the same thing in the end of the episode. We
did the other day, the Trick or Treat episode, same
kind of thing where Cheryl just smiles because you just
drive up to the house and this is her moment
where she's gonna fuck you.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I really like that Treat episode.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
It was a very funny episode.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I love that scene outside with the cop.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
When we did that episode, we were talking about how
fantastic scrove Van wasn't that he was great in that episode.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
We talked about that Grove Van comedian writer that we
all know.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Cheryl leaves and then you have a moment's like, well,
you want the bottle of water in the screening with you,
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
You put it down your pants.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
But by the way he was walking out and everything
would be okay, big ginty bink, and you turn around
to get the water and shove it down. I want
to I want to take the water into the theater.
I don't want that woman to win. I wanted I
wanted to have water.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's right, and nothing wrong with having water in the theater.
It's got a closed top.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I don't like being told. I don't like being told
what to do.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
And Tara comes running in and she's like, oh, I
love the doll, the dolls.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
The thing about her. As she comes in, she's very
confused about Larry bing in the bathroom, and like a switch,
she's the happy little girl with a.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Delightful little girl.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Thank you for fixing Judy's hand, and she hugs you
and yeah, bummy, that bollman in the bathroom and there's
something hard in his pants and horrified people's sounds all.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
The people too, Yeah, yeah, all the villagers, the villagers.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And like a universal horror mone exactly, and you want
to jump out the window and fade out.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yeah, it's it's one of those endings that just worked
out perfectly, perfectly.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
So you didn't start with the end in this So
tell about when you ran into her research. It's just
like about a year ago you ran into this girl.
It was when you were doing the thing at the
Greek Theater.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Yeah, yeah, Bob, Bob Whitey, Yeah, we directed this episode,
directed the episode. He was interviewing me the Greek and
unbeknownst to me, he wanted to surprise me and he
brought the girl who played Tara, who was now an
adult he's almost thirty, I think, And she came up
on stage and you know, we had a little job
(45:59):
and what did she say it? I asked her if
I had traumatized her full life by having to say
that line. And she wasn't traumatized at all. She she
loved the experience of doing it, and she seems to
have turned out great.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Is she an actress?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, she's an actress. Really. Yeah, I'd like to use
her again. We should, Yeah, we should use it.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And that's the episode, and it's to me, it is
one of the most perfect half hours of comedy in
the history.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Look at you, well, I think so.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
It's a perfect half hours.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Pretty great too, Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's why I
wanted to if I had one show to do, you.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Do it for my friend?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I have ye, no future. Let me ask you a question.
Have you ever been to Disneyland? Yeah? Did you go
on any of the rides? I went on the tea
cups perfectly, I would go on it would be the
tea cups.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Oh my god, Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I picture you, of course on the tea cup. I
did it once and threw up. Threw up. Oh no,
that's dizzying. You know, they spend an I don't know,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I don't like the.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
But that's why it's funny that he did it.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Was there a reason you asked that question?
Speaker 3 (47:26):
No, I just know when I asked him things with Larry.
Here's with Larry when I'm around him, when we do
our conversation on stay. I'm an investigative reporter, okay, and
I want to ask the questions that I know and
my way. Can I be honest with you? I've never
asked him a question like that that hasn't led to
something amazing, and so in my mind right then, I went,
(47:47):
I'm trying to picture Larry at Disneyland. You know, things
pop in my mind, and I know it's going to
be interesting. A if he's been there or not? And
then B did you go on a ride? And then
who the fuck expects the tea cup? You're a big
ball of gold. You fuck her?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And thank you for coming?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, thank you, Larry, my pleasure. Yeah. So well, we'll
let you know when you're needed extent. By the way,
it's always your option not to.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
But you know, I think maybe the ski lift, Yeah,
but that's so many seasons later.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Well that's four, I think four or five? Five?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Five? Yeah, five, one of my favorite seasons. Yeah, by
the way, was.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
It Larry David in the what and hipsters fuck? And
you know what? When you delivered that line, you immediately
looked at me. I think you sensed and of course
I exploded, not because Larry David upstairs. Guys, Thanks lat okay.
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