S2 Ep. 9 - “THE BAPTISM”

Jeff and Susie discuss *The Baptism* from Season 2.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You can watch the original episode we'll be discussing in
every other episode of HBO's Curby Your Enthusiasm, including the
new and final season, on Max. You can also watch
the video version of the History of Curby Enthusiasm podcast
on Max and YouTube, as well.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Links available in the episode description. Alrighty, I'm Jeff Garlin.
You're Jeff Or am I Jeff Garlands?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, I'm Jeff Garland. You may know me for other things.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yes, but we are doing the history of Curby Enthusiasm
and for our purpose is here That's how they know you. Right,
And this is season two, episode nine, the Baptism right,
and you know we talk about these classic Larry Domino effects.
Something shows up and you know it's going to come
back later. This to me is a classical that we

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start out with Larry wearing a rather unattractive burgundy jacket
and Sheryl is just no, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
No very, no, no, what what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Didn't you just wear that jacket yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I more than wearing the exact same outfit. I don't
feel like going through that whole decision process of picking
out an outfit. Well, it's awful, you know what I
think it's time to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
What's the matter with it?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Everything?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
But you know, it was amazing when we filmed that.
And she wants him to get a new jacket and
he doesn't want to because it.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Was a show next it was a showjacket, which we'll
explain was the jacket he wore for the show taping
of Seinfeld.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So it's kind of a lucky jacket for him.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yes, Now this was filmed in the very early two thousands. Okay,
so it wasn't such an odd jacket. Now you look
at it with the big shoulder pads, the whole thing,
it's ridiculous. Yeah, But then we had sort of just
come out of that look in the nineties and here
we are boom diggity and I. So when we were

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filming it, I didn't think like, oh, that's horrible, but Cheryl.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
But Cheryl did and she didn't like the color. Larry
thought the color looked good. And then she's like, didn't
you wear that yesterday? Time to get rid of it.
And she's going to be giving Larry's clothing very soon
to a homeless guy, So get rid of the jacket.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, this moment is the first domino yes to fall
over you know, all along, This is the first one
that helped set up all of it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
All of it, Yes, yeah, And for those of you
aspiring comedy writers out there, this is a good episode
to take a part in that sense.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Very much so, very much so.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Larry is going to his office and he's punching the
security code in to get the buzz to open the
office door, and there's a guy standing.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right behind him.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's very close, really, you know, in his personal space,
and you know that it's creepy, and you know, something
weird as to happen with that guy too. He gets
buzzed into the office and his assistant tells him that
Lewis is there, Richard Lewis is there waiting for him.
And Larry tells his assistant Antoinette, that he's going to Monterey.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
For the Spoler Spoler.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
He's going to Monterey for the weekend that Becky, Cheryl's
sister is marrying a Jewish guy who's converting, which is
already you know. And Larry says, I'll leave you the
number where we're going to be, et cetera, and he
enters his office.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Hold on hold on a couple of things back. Yeah,
he had already asked Cheryl at this point, and he
already asked a net what a baptism is, and he's
not really getting a straight answer. They're both like, don't
want to. It's like you and I explaining Perham, even
though a baptism is taken more seriously, but it's like,
how do you explain I, say, a Jewish Halloween with

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three characters? You know, that's the ease, So they don't
really want to explain it.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, we actually he hass Cheryl later on, but he
asks his secretary here, assistant here, Yes, so he doesn't
know what a baptism.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
But as you know, I nitpicked technical things on the show.
There was two establishing shots. In other words, they show
the outside of the building, Larry goes to the door,
he talks to his assistant. Then there's music and the
shot of the exterior of his office again, and then
they're Richard Lewis sing to me, it's jarring. I don't

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even know, because I'm all about with television with movies.
How much do you respect the audience? And did we
think that ounge's were so dumb that we had wouldn't.
By the way, establishing shots don't even work for the
second time later in a movie or a TV show.
You don't know, Yeah, we recognize the interior. So the
fact that we use that within you know, I'm going

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to say a minute of when we last saw it,
is insane. All right, how do you get that out? Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So he's in the office and Lewis is there waiting
for him, and Lewis is like, I have something to
tell you. I know you're going to take this the
wrong way. You always take things the wrong way. And
then the ridiculous statement that what makes is God, I
hate doing this because you know you always you always
take it the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You've taken everything the wrong way ever since I've known you.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Seven years ago, I was in.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Paris and I remember it.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You go to Paris.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
All right, you stole my outgoing message on my answering machine.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
What do you crazy?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
How long? I mean?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
This is a nuts I know you're ethical, I'm ethical.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We don't you know, when people steal jokes, we fucking
hate that. But I hate when people fucking steal my
outgoing messages.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I remember calling.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
You don't even know what you're talking about you.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Are you who the same answering machine outgoing message?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
And that's my message. I didn't get that message.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You wrote it in Paris.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I haven't got message seven years.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Ago, years and years ago.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
So this has been bothering Lewis for what six seven
years already that he believes Larry stole his outgoing message.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
And Lewis goes into a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
He wrote it in Paris and he knows it was
hid and Larry says it's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Larry did not steal the message.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And who are you gonna trust an ex alcoholic or
somebody who's been who said twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Is really funny and being in recovery, that is completely true.
Who do you trust the person who was blinded by
their addiction or the person who was clear and clear headed.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And Larry has never been an addictive personality. And then
looks you.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Can't get enough of the New York Rangers though he's
addicted to sports on the New York Rangers specifically.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
And now Lewis starts with the sobs story. I mean,
I don't have a wife, I don't have you know,
my parents are dead.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You have a family, Come on cha can't you come on?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Oh, he doesn't have a wife and his parents are dead.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's right, I need I hold on to the stage.
Man dead.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And Larry's just like, I didn't sell your message. But
I'll be the man.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And I know for a fact this is something Larry's
mother used to say to him. She used to say him,
you be the big man, Larry, you be the big man.
You go take the high road. His mother used to
say that, by the way.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
That's what I was taught to So she was fighting
with my brother be the big man.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Is your brother older or younger?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Younger?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh, okay, that's younger.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
But also we're leaving out Larry mocking Richard. Oh it's
so sad. I don't wire I'm not married. Oh, dear god,
it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's so funny. My mother, by the way, used to
do the opposite.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
My older brother, who's five years older than he, used
to beat the crap out of me, and then she.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Would say, what did you do to instigate? What did
you do?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Poor thing?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And Larry's Larry goes through that you be the big man,
and he doesn't want to do that because it's an
admission of guilt. And he feels very strongly that he
didn't do anything. But he's the man. I'm the man,
and I'm a big expansive man, and you're.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
A small, petty man.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
And is this when he changes the message?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
He changes the message right there on his phone, remotely
on his phone.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
What I did not realize until later is that it's
outgoing message on his home phone, not his work phone.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So that's an important distinction that I think wasn't really clarifyed.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Oh, Cheryl asked him later on.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, but not in that moment, you know, But
it doesn't need to be. It doesn't. By the way,
that's cool being introduced later because it leads to something.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It certainly does.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, so when we get there, I'll tell you so
planting the actual seed of what just happened. If you
trust that you know the show you're watching, treat you
with respect, they wait a little while before. You don't
have to know everything right away laid out, and you
really don't need to establishing shots within a minute. Okay, No,

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I cannot let it go when someone brings up the
show if you think that that's not going to bother me.
But there's some other stuff I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
This is what I love about my particular marriage to Jimmy.
We see different things, and I think in my television
marriage we see different things as well. The important things
is that is that you both see things.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, but also on the flip side, you're a lot
kinder to Jimmy than you are to my care night
and day, night and day.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Also, Jimmy, my real husband, isn't cheating on me, isn't
sneaking behind to do it.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's a circular hell with us that I'm cheating on
you because you treat me like shit.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's like we are still married, you know, which.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Is maybe the only unrealistic thing about the show. No,
it works for me. But I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
My parents had a horrible man my grand my grandparents
had a horrible marriage, and they were married until they
died in the nineties. And my grand my grandfather had
a twin that died in infancy, and my grandmother used
to always scream at him the wrong twin died, is
he that's how bad the marriage?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh my god. But they would never name for that voice,
of course, but they.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Never would have left each other. So I kind of
see Jeff and Susie in that same.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I think it is too and I don't see him
stopping cheating at any point.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And we need each other in a certain way.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, well, from bottom line for comedy purposes exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
The bottom line for Larry's purposes is really what it is.
We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back. So
Larry changes messages. Then he's home, he's packing, and he's

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telling Cheryl that he changed the outgoing message.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wait, wait, hold on, I want to skip this. He
is overwhelmed with the idea packed. She tells him the
list of what he needs. He goes, why can't it
all be the same? And I thought of Steve Jobs immediately,
the gentleman's mock turtleneck and new balanced shoes. I don't
have great anxiety in my closet, but there is a
level of anxiety that I spend an extra five minutes.

(10:41):
You know it could be important. I don't know that
I could be doing something else if I just went turtleneck.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, every woman knows this of your bed strewn with
the different outfits that you've thrown off and putting over.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
A nightmare that no man will ever understand.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, he needs a traveling outfit, he needs something for
the baptism, he needs something for the wedding, and what
are you aware to a baptism? And this is where
he says he doesn't know what a baptism is, right
to her?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes to Cheryl, But let me just.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Reiterate that he has told her that he changed the
outgoing message to the phone, and she said, you did
it remotely, and she's not trusting that it was actually
I thought.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
That happened in the airport. Now my mistake.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, keep going, and he's what are you aware to
a baptism? Then a wedding outfit?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And then he starts to discuss the baptism with her,
and Cheryl says, if he didn't convert, Becky would not
marry him, and Larry goes into a thing that has
always puzzled me. Why do Christians always try to convert
Jews do not proselytize and try to converse.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
There are the premise of Jews for Jesus, which is
kind of like.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
That, because that's there's a reason, and somebody could correct
me if I'm wrong. My understanding of why Christians go
missionaries to Africa. The reason why they try to convert
people is because they believe that if you are not baptized,
you're going to hell.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well no, no, that's a strong belief, and most religions
like that, and I guess it.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
So therefore they believe that if you and I don't
convert to Christianity, they're saving our souls by having us.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
By the way, very kind of them, very kind.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
You got to look at the right through the years.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But he says Jews don't convert, and then he does
the comparison Christians.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Take everything so personally with Christ. You know, it's like
it's not not only do you have to worship him,
you want everybody to. It's like I like lobster. Do
I go around pushing lobster on people?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Do?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I say you must like lobsters, to eat lobster.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's good, it's good. You know, it's not only where
you live.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You go to you go to Africa, you travel all
over the world. Get eat lobster, have some more lobster.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's good. I don't really think we want you to
have lobster.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean I like lobster. Do I force lobster
on you?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Do? I travel around and tell people here, here's some lobster.
It'll do you good, like the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, which is a very funny run.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Then Larry tells Cheryl he's going to drive to the airport,
which she's skeptical of. She doesn't want to drive. Take
a car service. The car service have a columns and
they'll they'll leave very early. Cut to next morning, Larry
can't find the.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And by the way, watching you feel that stress, yes,
because everyone.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Everything knows that's to get into the airport on time,
and having it's on.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Your phone, so you'd have to say I lost my phone.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
A lot of things have changed, yes, But we used
to have those physical tickets. Yes, And the truth was
about those physical tickets is that anybody could have taken
that ticket.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
They didn't check ID well, not.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
For the most part of them using them. I think
they were still using them after nine to eleven, but
they checked thoroughly. Yes, And by way, they still have
them because when you go to the counter, they hand
you that boarding pass. Yeah, the boarding pass. That's it
used to be just harder and better paper, that's all.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And I actually always like to have a physical boarding
pass and not on my phone.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because we're analog sister. We we I just like a
physical thing on my modern world, except technology, enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Technology, technophobiaiccept. I like the physical thing in my hand.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I just by the way. It's better, but it's also
easier to lose and easier to you know.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
So Larry came. He thinks he left them in the office.
So do we have time?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Cheryl's face, she's just like, oh, here we go now
with his mischie gus. She doesn't say that because she's Guyam,
it's what I say.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And they go to the office. They're not there.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
And then you see Larry thinking and he realizes he
knows why they're not there. That creepy guy who looked
at the thing before the code to get into the office,
saw the code, went into the office, stole the tickets.
I knew it, Larry says, I knew it. And Cheryl's like,
was anything else stolen?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
No, He's wearing blinders at that point to protect himself.
Larry's character, I believe he always wants to show that
he's a victim of circumstance.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, And so this is another one, and this.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Was he wanted to prove that he was right, and
he believes that he was right, and Cheryl's calling the airline.
It's one of these customer service nightmare. She's on hold,
she's on hold, she's on hold. And they're driving to
the airport and Larry's like, it's trafficing. Should I take Lincoln,
which is only people in LA knows what that means.
I need Lincoln approval. And they get to the lot

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and there's no.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Here's something again, technology something that okay, now quite often,
not always, but most of the time, there's green. Green
screen has improved so much when you're driving, but we
didn't do green screen with this because back then it
was shit. But you're on the uh, there's a truck

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driving your car.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You're up on a truck yeah yeah, yea and the rig.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And while you're doing that, there's a level of crew
members rocking the car gently. You would have thought they
were driving up the rocky mountains and driving by the
way through smooth LA. Not that LA doesn't have poddoles.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
But rocking.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
But even in the in the parking lot, they're the rocking.
I go, where are they driving? Where are they driving?
This is insane? Bug the shit on it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I didn't notice it.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I know, I'm not worried about continuity. The show's already
kind of absurd. You don't need to establishing shots and
you don't need to be on smooth. It was almost
like something out of the Naked Gun, that they're making
the car rock while they're in smart.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't think so because I didn't notice it.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, that's okay, whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Although I will say this when I'm rewatching the episodes
for the purpose of the podcast, I am frequently looking
down taking notes, so I don't see it as you're missing.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Clearly you're missing the gold or in this case, the shit.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, So there's no spaces in the lot. It's full,
and we all know that feeling. And then maybe in
retrospect we should have taken a car service. Finally, he
finds a guy leaving. This is a pet peeve of mine,
by the way, and I live in New York City,
So I go through this a lot, pull up. A
guy's leaving, but they're taking there on the phone they
take can't they just leave the spot? Let you pull
in and then just sit there and do what they

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have to do on the street.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I have two feelings on that. Sometimes people are overwhelmed
something's going on. That's what I think. When someone's driving
erradically outside of being drunk or high, are slow, I'm
thinking there's something going on. I'm being empathetic. So, having
been that guy in the car in the space and
people getting mad at me, there was a reason I

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wasn't taking a nap, I wasn't reading the paper. I
wasn't going Jim, how are you?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
But by the way, yes, that's less. It would be
considerate correct that someone do that. Outside of that, I
don't think it's a rule. To me, it's an act
of being respectful to others.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Being respectful and considerate, and I would always do that
if I could. If somebody's waiting, I've done it many times.
Somebody's waiting for a parking spot, I leave my spot
and pull up on the side of the road and
let them take the parking spot.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Right. Well, you're better than everyone.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm not better than everyone. I no, No, Larry Jacobs.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Susie, you are better.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
It is insinuating that he would do the same thing,
and I believe he would.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You're not listening to me. You are really a big
bowl of.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Wonderful I'm the big man. You are Okay, so the
guy's not moving. It just is one of my pet
peeves that people do things like that. It's like, just
be kind and considerate to other people. And I think
that's a Larry David thing as well. Finally, you know,
the car is leaving. Somebody pulls in really quick. It's
one of these nightmares.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
The lots fills.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
They shouldn't even ever let you in. They finally obviously
find his working spot to cut to. There at the
long line.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
We cut away from the parking He's done milking that situation.
Correct If there were two or three more good jokes
were in the parking lot, but the parking lot is over,
and I don't even know if there were two or
three more jokes that didn't work, But boom, you moved.
This is what comedy to keep it moving. Nothing here,
let's move on.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So we moved to the long line.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
At the ticket counter, they get to the back, they
try to cut Wendy Camaner was that her name?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Kmanoff?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Camanoff. Wendy Kamanoff to me play the ticket counter woman.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
She was really good.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, she was excellent.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
She was laid, she was every one of those people
you've ever met who put on a smiley faces. Well,
put on smiley face. Wha, they're pinging on your leg exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
While they're just standing on the counter, you see Larry
looking around looking for the guy who stole the tickets.
So he sees a guy and he approaches the guy.
He thinks it's the guy who stole the ticket.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, you can, you can give me the ticket. Okay,
I want the ticket.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
You're talking about what.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm talking about. I'm talking about the ticket that you
took from my office. Okay, yeah, you memorize the building
code you got into the office.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
I want the ticket.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I gotta get on the plane. I got a wedding thing.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
You got to make confused with somebody else. No, I
don't think I do. I don't have your ticket, yeah okay, yeah,
I have my own tickets. Of course you do. It's
a bereatment there. My mother's dead.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah right, okay, yeah, I'd like to take a look
at it. Okay, yeah, it's your ticket.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Right, yeah I do.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, okay, you want to say, let's take a lot.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, what's the name right here? Is it your name? No,
it's mine, Chris Darga.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
See if this were yours, it would say, fucking douchebag.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Sorry, that's your mother.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
His mother's dead.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
This guy was good, uh, you know, and Larry I
want to take a look, you know, And he calls Larry,
I call you a fucking douchebag. He approaches another guy,
I know what you did. Then the guy gets up,
big guy towers over him.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Then they finally get to Wendy kamanoff the ticket agent.
The flight is completely sold out and the door is closed.
You know, once the door is closed, that's it. No
reopening of the door. She figures out another route. They
could fly to San Francisco. Then it's one hundred mile drive.
They're in the car. Larry calls Lewis about the outgoing message.
He wants Cheryl to verify the outgoing message controversy. Cheryl

(21:07):
is done at this point. She's going to miss her
sister's wedding. She's going to miss that baptism which is
important to her, and she is just fucking pissed, and
she refuses.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
We'll be right back, stay tuned. Okay, we're back.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
By the way in the script, because my favorite, one
of my favorite things that Larry does is whimsy where
he just starts yammering in his head. I don't think
any of that was in the script what he was
singing about. What he was talking about in the whole
story on the drive there, yeah, and you know, and.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
He's singing nonsense totally before that, before that important point,
he calls his phone, checks the machine. There's no outgoing
message important story and also there's no navigation.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
He touch on later on in the show, and he's.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Being completely annoying in the car. Nice country, let's settle down.
Why is there no grape pie? Did we need Alaska?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
And hahhi way the best one? I thought, have you
ever had a fresh grape? A fresh grape? I've had
a fresh apple? Was it? I never had a fresh grape?
And he of course means picking off the vine, but
the idea they's never had a fresh grape?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Did we need Alaska? In Hawaii?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
They ruined the continental United States? What is Puerto Rico?
Just on and on annoying this and Cheryl can't take it,
and they're lost and they just like pull over. They
get out and Larry sees a guy being dunked in
the water in the distance, doesn't know what it is.
Just sees a guy's head going down and he.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Screams to stop.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
He thinks is a drowning, and he screams, and everyone
all of a sudden is in the water.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's a complete chaos.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Mayhem, Mayhem.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
And the minister afterwards is handing out towels, and Becky,
in her inimitable way, the.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Hell is the matter with you?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
I thought that he was drowning him.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
She didn't think he was drowning, and he just didn't
want him to convert, so he came screaming down to
hell to stop it.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
What do I care? I don't care if he converts, Well,
what do I care?

Speaker 5 (23:21):
That is ridiculous. You didn't want to lose a Jew.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And you know it.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I don't care if I lose Jews.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Take them all.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't need them.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't want them. That was the whole point of
the baptism. But you can't posed to me.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I want you.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I don't want you to be.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
The Becky Larry relationship is a lovely thing. Becky, you
didn't want him to convert and start screaming at Larry.
You didn't want him to convert, And then we see
and I love this. We see the fiance's Jewish relatives
off to the side, and it's Hiram Casten and it's
David Feldman.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I don't know the woman's name, do you.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I don't Maybe you might be a I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And they are approaching Larry and telling him and why
was Hiram on crutches?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Just must have hurt himself for something.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I remember being on crutches all day.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, no, so something. And Hiram Casten is a comedian.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
When I started in the mid eighties, was already, you know,
like the king of the comic strip.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He was an old man before he became He was always.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
An old man, but he was an old fashioned tumbler
in the way that the cat's skill.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Comedians he was.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Hirom was always a throwback, very very funny, but a
throwback like he was born in the wrong time period,
you know. And David Felden, one of the funniest people
on this earth, great writer.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Won Emmys for writing both Bell Maher and The Dennis
Miller Show on HBO. The thing that David did that
nobody knows he did the Stephen Colbert from the Colbert
Report before Stephen Colbert, meaning you would go up on
stage and say how he hates the Dutch, like all
this stuff that people would get mad. And it was

(25:01):
so clear that he's joking and he's got it. But
he has a funny twist and a funny angle on
all that, and.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
It just he makes me laugh.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Always sit in the back on that.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
He's another one, a comics comic, very funny, and hire him.
I I'm Dave Levin and they start to extol the
virtues of what Larry did.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
You don't know me, Dave Levin. I'm just smocks brought along.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Listen, what you did is a very gutsy thing.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay, please, you don't take a bound for it.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I'm just telling you now, I just do one or another.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's a gutsy thing to come in and step in
on something I.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Didn't even amidst of my family. Thank you, you did good.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Excuse me, you did good.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I didn't even with us.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
You're with us now, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Feldn says you did good, and Paul Dooley then chimes in,
when do we go back in because he needs two
more dunks to make it official, and the fiance says,
no more I'm done. I don't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
And this is played by Mitchell Whitfield. Mitchell Whitfield, who
was in My Cousin Vinnie with Ralph Macchio. He was,
you know, the other guy. I did a TV series
with him. For this part. I can't imagine anyone else
doing this part the way he plays frustrated, like he
has to run, you know, so go ahead.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
And then I think I think it was Feldman that said.
Rabbi Akiva says, it takes one man, it takes one man.
That's that's a Feldman kind of a line, you know
what I mean. And the fiance what was his name
in the show.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
The fiance, Oh, I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I forgot, But Mitchell'sfield is very very hesitant about going
back in and the ministers we could do it in
the tub, we could use a cup of water. But
he's the fiance is doubting the message from God. He
feels as though he got a message from God in
that moment that no, he should not be converting. And

(27:00):
Larry is off with the Jewish relatives. I feel good
and taking credit for.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Something at this moment when they start yelling at him.
That comes next, That.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Comes next, but Larry's and we've seen this since then.
I don't think we've seen a prior but since then,
we've seen many instances where Larry is taking credit for
doing good that was completely inadvert and he didn't mean
to do good.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
But but no, he takes complete credit. You see him
by the way that that that grows as he's gotten. Now.
It did say that before when Mitchell Whitfield, his character
says I don't want to convert. Paul Douley or someone
says to Larry, you know what's wrong with him converting?
And Larry goes take them all, talk about Jews, take

(27:44):
them all, I don't need them, which I thought was hilarious. Okay,
so back to it.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And then oh, then Larry's back with the Jewish relatives.
I feel good.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And David Pelvin says, I'd like you to talk at
my daughter's buttments, which equivocally funny.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I thought the same. And also, by the way, I've
never given Larry an idea. For sure, David Feldman had one,
and I went, oh, fuck, I have to tell Larry this.
And it wasn't even something that happened to the idea
of thinking someone's a Holocaust survivor, but the numbers on
their arms are actually for the lottery. David Feldman thought that, Yeah,

(28:20):
approached Larry.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, but I thought, you know, hilarious, and that premise
is just so David that I.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Thought that was the funniest line. It's funny.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
We both thought that was the funniest line of the episode.
I'd like you to talk at my daughter's butt, mensa.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then Becky's like, fine, we're not getting married.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm looking well, I'm not getting married.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, Larry, you do that. We're not getting married.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
You happy now?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You call a So this is not a son of
a bitch.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
It's not having to do a wonderful thing today.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
What are you saying that being a Christian isn't a
wonderful thing. What are you insinuating wonderful for you?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
We resent the recruitment, We don't need you.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And you know, the two sides just start in that way,
just going at each other, and it's Mayhem again, Melee
and Mayhem.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
So that scene fucked me up when I saw it.
Why because my parents were in it.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh, I didn't realize. I didn't recognize them, and I
knew them.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
It's really hard even to talk about it right now.
To see my parents, who both passed away there as
Jews pointing fingers, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Whether you're visiting. Was that what it was?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I think it was worked out that that's when they
would come visit me. And all I did after that
episode aired was make fun of my parents their acting
in it. And my mother was much better than my
father because my mother garb Marylyn Jean Garland, she gave
up her career, which was she was going to be.
She got a scholarship to like the Goodman Theater, like
this whole thing. Yeah, but she she didn't want to

(30:09):
do was stage craft, which, by the way, that took
me out of acting too. I'm like, fuck stage craft people.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Stagecraft.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
There's the building of the sets, keeping it all together,
and it's a lot of handyman work, of which I
don't do that. And by the way, I didn't do
that when I was whatever. My dad forced me to
cut the lawn. Other than that, no, there's no building.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Carol was good, but Jean was not.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Carol was fine. My dad yelling and pointing. So now
I look at it and I got hysterical crying. Last night,
did you. Oh yeah, I mean when you. I mean
they've been in my head since they died. I've not
really seen them, seen them until that scene. And it
just knocked me over and I began weeping.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well that you have that scene.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, but it's hard not to cry now even thinking
about it because it's so overwhelm.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I have to go back and look.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I didn't notice them because I had my head down
taking notes.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's okay. I don't think you know a lot of
times with a background person, extra background, whenever you want
to call it, you only notice them if they're bad.
Well there's two reasons they're bad, and extraordinarily look like
aliens like something will make you what the fuck's going
on there? But mostly if they're bad, if someone's a

(31:28):
good background, you don't even notice that.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'll tell you this, Jimmy, my husband was background in
Palestinian Chicken season eight, and he was horrible. He was horrible,
so my dad God bless and it was important that
he did it because he didn't realize that every take
he's got to have the intense because it was a
very similar kind of scene.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's the two sides.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
The Palestinians just going at each other, screaming with Larry
in the middle, and he didn't realize that each take
he had to bring that same intensity. So Jeff Schaeffer
went over to him and he was telling it because
he was right next to me, so he was on camera.
It's like, you have to keep up the energy, and
it was important that he saw that that's what I
have to do.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
So the job is not that easy.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Well, no it's not, but you know, fake yelling is
pretty easy.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
And again Larry and Cheryl, they're in the car, Larry
and Cheryl in the car. Cheryl is clearly miserable because
Larry just destroyed her sister's wedding and it had previously
destroyed a relationship with Craig Anton in season one. I
believe that was And so they see the homeless guy
in the maroon jacket.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Mark Boone Junior, the character act. He's really great. He's
really great and everything he does.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And he comes up to the car and he says,
I found the tickets. The tickets were in the maroon jacket, which,
by the.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Way, watching this, I guess because I knew it. But
from the thing, I'm like, why is there so much
on this jacket, Like, what is that? Because, like I
just said, there's an important reason for the jacket, because
it's now the funny wrap up for the.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Show and yet another button where the homeless guy Mark
Boone Junior says, I tried to call you that your
number was on the ticket.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You guys don't have a phone answering machine, but.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Hold on, you're missing a key thing here. When he
first shows that he found the tickets, he looks at
Cheryl like, you fucked up, not me. Yeah. So then
when he went to the answering machine, Cheryl had the
best maybe moment of acting in the episode, her slow
turn to Larry, Oh, it was fantastic, where Nope, not me,

(33:34):
you fucker.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, and there's the perfect domino effect, right, but the tip.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Of it, the jacket, the end of it.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
The jacket and the answering machine. Yeah, both set up
in the first two scenes. Yeah, well we're done there
we go the baptism.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah. And the next episode is the Pirates of the
Caribbean salute. Yes, oh, the curb Pirates of the Caribbean episode.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Uh huh, who do I play in that?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
You play the Johnny deppro Okay?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Bye?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
See you later.

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Speaker 2 (34:14):
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