February 6, 2025 • 34 mins
Jeff and Susie discuss “Kamikaze Bingo” from Season 5.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Hello everybody, I'm Susisman.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Who are you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Jeff Garlin, one of America's.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Top teams, and we are on season five of Curby Enthusiasm,
Episode four, and this episode is Kamikazi Bingo and Jeff
and I have both said not our favorite episode.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No, but I want to say that on paper it
was funny, it just didn't It's not like Larry Misses
with the outline, it's just how it's put together. It
just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
From me, and quite frankly, I would say out of
we have one hundred twenty well not counting the pilot special,
we have one hundred and twenty episodes, and the number
of episodes that maybe don't quite work are very few. Really, yeah,
less than five.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Easy to be two, three, I don't know, but this one.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I mean I could think of two right off the bat,
including this one. So so there's not many is.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
One of those where he flushes the toilet and it
hurts his ears.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, I wasn't thinking we haven't done that yet, so
I forgot about that. Well, but that one, the one
that didn't work was that one in season one, what
was it, the chiropractor one that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Was well, By the way, I also want to say,
that's based on a real the acupuncturiss therist.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, so that really chiropractor one was last season of
the season before with Josh gadd okay, Josh y yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No, no, no, wait wait wait wait wait, that guy
is based on my acupuncturists and Larry's and we.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Established that at the time. No, but we did the episode, I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Know, but that guy really set them flowers and right,
he never sent me flowers. I was okay with that, but.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Something just didn't work. And then in this episode, same thing.
Something's not working for me, but we'll discuss it. Yeah.
So we start out with at Hannah Sushi where Cheryl
is having lunch with or dinner I'm not sure with
with Yoshi and Larry walks in, and when Larry walks in,
all the sushi chefs call him chicken Kara yaki boy.
(02:34):
And they start clucklook, cluck and doing all these crazy
things Sushi and they.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So he you know, knowed, they know they.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Know him, they know him as Chicken Terara Yaki.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But because by the way, those guys greet everybody in
a nice, big way because they know somebody, I can
see them doing this, but again it's a seed you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
See coming, that's right. And they're clucking and they're clucking
and they're moving their arms like they do in the
Funky Chicken. And Cheryl is sitting with Yoshi, who was
Greg Watana be and Yoshi bows at Larry and Larry's
nuts about the bow. He loves the bow. He feels
like we need humility in the bow and that we're
all too cocky.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
See his performance for me, by the way, everything he
did was good, but it didn't make sense. What I
mean by that is him being so quiet and committing suicide.
You need to see the look in his eye because
when people are vulnerable, they wear masks, and he was.
He was vulnerable from the worst first. Yes, in the
(03:38):
very beginning, yes, and that was not in the script,
I mean the outline, but it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Was an acting choice of him.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah. But when Larry talks about what we're going to
get to his father being a kamikaze piet, and he
has doubts about it. Then you see the transformation from
you know, affable guy to that. All right, So I'm
always going to give my directing problems because these are
these are not script problems, they're directing problems. I don't
(04:06):
like it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Cheryl and Yoshi are talking about sculptures and Larry says
he'd like a sculpture with a big penis and big balls.
It's the kind of sculpture that he's looking for. And
then he sees on the table a little scratched in
thing that says Kofi was here, scratched in, carved into
the table, and it's kind of like a they discussed
(04:28):
it's a low life, a thing way to do.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But also this is also a seed and where it
goes was not worth.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It doesn't work. It doesn't work. That's what I'm saying
these things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And by the way, the last one with the guy
not a director's fault, but a director could have adjusted
the performance or Larry could have. And I don't remember
saying anything on the set because I just want to
be clear that I'm not just blaming the director. This
is a casting slash. Everyone's fault and the guy's good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh yeah. And then we established Yoshi's father and Larry's
father are in the same nursing home and that they're friends,
and Yoja.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Gave Cherry gave the old person condescending Oh that's so cute, yes,
as if when you get to that age, you know
you're adorable.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And and Yoshi says that for his dad's eightieth they
took him to Japan and he hadn't been back since
the war, and he saw family and he saw his
military buddies. And Larry asked what he did, and Yoshi
tells him he was a pilot. What did he do
in the war?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He was a pilot.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Really, you're kind of a Kamakazi pilot. Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Wow, will he be dead?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Not all of them died a Kamakazi pilot.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It kind of implies that, you know, Kamakazi pis is
a pilot who crashed and died.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right, he's thank goodness for this, you too, What did
you say that?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But what happened exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Did he did he try and crash the plane into
a ship. He grazed the ship a Kama Kazi pilot,
and then Larry says, well, if it was a Kama
Kazie pilot, wouldn't he be dead? And he makes a
good point.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, by the way, I also would guess that some
Kamakazi guys lived, of course, Yeah, the ones that went
right into the boat and exploded. Okay, that's true Kami kazi.
But sometimes they do something it doesn't work, and they're
still alive. I don't know if when they get back
the generals go, you should be dead.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, what's going on? We're not that familiar with the
whole Kamakazi protocol. But Larry will not let up on this.
He really really pushes it. He's like, well, what happened?
And Yoshi is getting very upset, and he goes he
grazed the ship and Larry's but Larry's like push it,
like would the last second he changed his mind, and
you see Yoshi getting more and more uncomfortable, and then
(07:05):
Larry orders the chicken kara yaki. And this also was
not totally believable to me, and he says chicken many
many times.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So what wasn't believable is Larry would have realized that
he wouldn't make fun of the grazing like it took
it too far. I understand inherent curiosity, but it went
too far. And then this one sang chicken that much,
and then later on saying it was an accident, which
I believed.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He believed it was a little weird.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, because I tell you what it was. It was Larry.
Larry ordered the chicken and said chicken. I can believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But he said chicken like four or five times. No,
but looked at.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Him and said chicken.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It was fucking weird.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, And you see that Yoshi's uncomfortable. And then we
cut to poker game at Kevin Nielan's house and it
is lu Schneider and Jill Rosenthal and Alan Kershenbaund and
you and Larry playing poker, and Larry tells him about
hiring a private eye because he thinks that he's adopted,
(08:08):
and Phil Rosenthal asks about how Lewis is and Larry says, no,
there's something wrong with him, something with his kidney. And
all of that is really just adding the PI and
adding Lewis's kidney is just set up for later episodes.
Nothing happens about that in this episode. And then Kevin's
wife comes in with snacks and we find out that
she's Yoshi's sister, and Yoshi's supposed to be playing with them,
(08:31):
but he never showed up.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But again, a guy with that personality, how would he
fit in that game? No?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not really, it's media or a comedy writer.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
No, no, But I'm saying again, not believable that this.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Career quiet hanging out with Louis and you all comedy guys.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, well, the audience, I'm a manager, but all the
people at the table are comedy people.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yoshi was supposed to be playing. And then we established
again that their fathers are friendly, and Larry says he's
going to go there tomorrow to play bingo and he
thinks he's gonna win because he's a great bingo player.
And then the phone rings and Kevin answers it, and
we find down.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Hold On, doesn't he asked the sister about the kamikaze thing?
And then and then Neilan says, no, a lot of
them lived.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Maybe exchange keep going.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And then Kevin answers and we find out that Yoshi
tried to commit suicide and they quickly run out.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
For me, I believed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I believe that also.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And by the way, really is great in this episode.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
However he is. However, I felt like it was a
little bit of a waste of Kevin because Kevin is
so so funny, and he was not allowed to be
funny really in this episode.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But by the way, I curb a lot. That's me.
But as he just because to be funny, I believe. No,
I yes, you know what I am on the show.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kevin was playing a serious part. You don't play a
serious part.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well no, but I'm saying he was great. I believed
every part of his thing. So I don't think it's
a waste. I think it's just an acting job for Ketch.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, I know, but I just think Kevin's so funny
that I enjoy him being funny.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know. They even sent me a note after last
season about how grateful he is that I lay the pipe,
that I set up what's about to happen, and then
he wrote, somebody's got to do it, and it's me. Yeah,
I've get lots of opportunities to be funny, but a
lot of times I'm just saying shit, that's going to
lead to something. You know, and I've actually figured out
(10:43):
a sports analogy. I'm like a tight end. Sometimes I
have to stay in the block, and sometimes I get
to score a touchdown. Like that's the only player. Because
I went through all the sports and if anyone knows
football is listening understands what I'm saying. You get some good,
big catches, but you also day in and protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Mister Larry David, I'm the cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I've just pictured you in a cheerleader outfit, with the
way you are even as a girl, that's fucking Did
you didn't wear in a cheerleader were you? Yeah? I
would bet everything.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Then.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So then Kevin and his wife leave to go to
Seyoshi and Larry says, I just saw him last night,
and Jeff you said, does he seem weird? And Louis says,
was there anything he was humiliated by say that to
me too on the money.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I was really jarred from the scene because I
didn't remember that because mine's a naive question of like
I'm curious that one is like, Hey, I'm going to
give you some meat that everyone's expecting you to eat.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So we'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Stay tuned, Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So then everybody's like, you know, what do we do?
Do we leave? But you don't know the alarm and
you don't have a key, and there's a pizza coming.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oh, we're here. We are here.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
That's true because you know, I had to really to
get out tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm kind of happy to be anywhere, and you know,
we can't leave the house. They're gone keys, I don't
know the alarm caught or anything. And a pizza is coming.
Got a pizza coming? Yeah, I got a pizza coming.
And he tried. He didn't actually kill himself, very distinction
because tried.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
If he said he tried to, he just didn't, which
means he's alarmed.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Okay, is it?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So of course you gotta stay. And also and he
tried but he didn't actually do it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And but also when he comes back, he'll be happy
that we're here. Someone said that. I don't know, but
I like that part. Actually, I believe that it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Was sad to me to see Alan there.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, our friend Alan Kirschenbaum, who was in the scene.
Alan didn't say much in the scene, No, he did.
He spoke the least.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Alan was Freddie Roman's son. For people who don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
If anyone is listening and they know who Freddie Roman is,
please write in. I'll give you an autographed album.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Freddie died recently.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah. By the way, I met Freddie,
I'm not even kidding you forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh up to the.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
College shrip in Florida.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know. He came into the restaurant I was working in,
and the fellow waitress of mine knew him and introduced me.
She said, friend of mine wants to be a comic.
I think I've been doing it for a few months.
And she introduced me to Freddie and he told me
years later he remembered meeting me and remember thinking, oh,
this poor kid, she'll never make it. He was wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, by the way, I also want to add I
had a moment like that that really surprised me. Well,
what's the gentleman's name who runs Discovery HBO? Your friend
David Zaslov. David Zaslov. So I'm in Barney Greengrass, and
what's his name? Green Grass? Who owns it? Oh? Gary,
Gary green Rest comes over and this has happened before.
(14:06):
One of my customers would really like to meet you.
He comes over very unassuming, and I'm very nice. But
at a certain point I looked at him and went, wait,
you're my boss. You're my boss. You're in charge of
everything that I could possibly do on screen. And yeah,
he was very nice. He's not getting the greatest press,
(14:27):
but very I found him to be very nice. And
how lucky are we that it's this fake Krby is
his favorite show?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, he came to said, I don't know if you
were there this season. Oh yes you were, because but
what I.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Want to say is all these shows had these huge
cuts on so many levels. He left us alone.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, yeah, but he was. He's only been our boss
for this past season before that, but.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
The idea that our show is his favorite show and
he won't touch it. He's a good guy that he's
cut everything else. He's a good friend and he's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So all you guys are still playing poker and yunking
it up and laughing and smoking cigars, and Kevin Nealan
walks back in and he's like, what are you doing.
He's appalled, and Jeff says, I told you guys you
should leave.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I know, I turned, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They a little fucking liar, But the.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Best line is a subtle little line in that scene.
Phil Rosenthal delivered it perfectly. I took an orange.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I took an orange. And for those of you who
don't know, let me just say, because some people might
not know. Phil Rosenthal was the creator and executive producer,
and everybody loves a guy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And he's been on the show a couple of times. Yeah,
and he's really hit it a couple of times. But
when he said in the he knew how to deliver
it how it needed to be said, and he said,
I took an order.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I took an orange. Well, he's you know, he knows
what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I just because everything's loud and bouncing, and right away,
I took an orange, like he wants to admit.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
To that beautiful And then Kevin kicks them all out,
and Larry says, Larry says to Kevin before lose, did
Yoshi mention my name? Because he started to have an
idea that maybe it was about him.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Larry's character is always about like wondering if it's about him.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes, And then he gets home and Cheryl's there and
she says, did you hear about Yoshi? And apparently he
sent Cheryl a suicide email, and Larry wants to hear
the suicide email because he's afraid that it's about him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm sure that this has happened, but I never would
have thought of suicide email. I think that's fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, And Cheryl says it's private. Larry says, we're married.
You get the sex, but you get all the information too,
And he wants to see it, and and Cheryl says,
if you would should have seen it, he would have
copied you the computer all that.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So Larry the character is like your share whatever. And
he and I have a policy when we talk about something,
we don't tell anybody else. You might be the only
other person that could get involved with a Larry discussion
because you're very close with Larry, and you're closer than
I am that people want to know. But we're very
(17:05):
close with Larry anyhow, it's a strict policy, and especially
your significant other.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Next week, cut to Larry is at the old age home.
He's playing bingo and you're clearly enjoying himself. And NAT's
girlfriend is sitting next to Nat and she tells him
you're so noisy. She says to Larry and Larry all
of a sudden Bingo he is bingo and Lenore who
is the checker.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
The character of Larry and real Larry never would cheat. Never.
He has to feel really good about his accomplishment and
whatever he does, so you know when you're watching, if
you watch the show, he's not lying, because we would
firmly establish on a sheet that that wasn't calling and
that to be a storyline, which it is of him
(17:50):
faking winning. But this is really funny because which it
sets up I think a really funny run.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And did you notice that Leonore the checker. I know Milly,
that's right, Anne Morgan Gilbert who played Milly on The
Dick vand and that show.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Mary Tyler, Moore's best friend The Neighbors with Jerry, the
dentist Jerry Parris, who also had a career. He was
a very successful television director. I mean I didn't know that,
Oh happy days did Dick Van Dyke show all of them? Jerry?
I never got to work with him. I wanted to,
but he directed a ton of TV shows.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Milly also played the grandmother on The Nanny and Not
Millie and Morgan Gilbert, who played Milly, also played the
grandmother on the Nanny.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And that, by the way, just like you mentioning Freddie
Roman the Nanny. You couldn't pay me to watch it.
I've never seen it and I wouldn't watch it. All
I needed to see was a commercial for it, and
I just say the words.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm out, So Angela Patton plays Ruthie, and Lenore, who
plays by Milly, says.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Okay, I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I did not call I seventeen. I never did. He's
not correct, I did not call cheat.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
All right, let me see that pet.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
No, you're not what nobody checks out?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, why can't I check out your pet?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Because I never let anyone look at my pat. Good
for you, Leonor, she's really obnoxious this Ruthie and Larry
wants to see her pad, and then all of a sudden,
Ruthie has bingo. Larry wants to see Leonora's pad and
Leonora doesn't show anybody the pat and Kevin and his
wife are with Yoshi and his wife's father, and Larry
(19:36):
says hello, and the father is very cold to him,
gives him the cold shoulder, and he asked about Yoshi
Yoshi's doing.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
The father doesn't say a line in the episode.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Not one line. Tanaka Tanaka is his name, And Yoshi's
home doing fine apparently, and Kevin says, don't pretend you're concerned.
And you were there yucking it up and having pizza,
and Larry says, we thought about him between hands, like
she's so, And then Kevin tells him you're the reason
(20:06):
that he attempted suicide because you humiliated him over the
whole comic coaze thing. You taunted him and you called
him chicken, and Larry says, there's a big difference between
saying you're a chicken and have a piece of chicken.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So and he also was like, no, that's what they
call me. They call me yocky. And in this moment,
Cheryl backs him.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She says, yeah, well no, no, she wasn't here right then,
this is.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Late mistake I've done that I jump this is.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
In the nursing home. And then Larry tells him that
Kevin ran out and he owed him three hundred dollars
and Kevin says, I'll give you chips back, but you
have to call Yoshi at home and apologize. So Larry
says he will call Yoshi at home and apologize and
he does call him to apologize, and as he's apologizing,
he's eating pistachio nuts. Oh hey, Yoshi, this is Larry David.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Oh hello, Larry.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm actually I'm calling to apologize.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'm sorry if I said anything that might have been inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I don't really mean anything to happen.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I was just kind of curious with the whole comm thing.
You know, are you are you eating something?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I'm eating pistachio nuts.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You're eating pistachio nuts while you're apologizing to me, yes,
so you can't be sincere about apologizing then snack on
pistachio nuts. Well, I can eat and apologize.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
There's no pistachio crunching and apologizing. You can't be sincere,
you know, with eating pistachio nuts.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And by the way, how funny was it seeing him
in the chair crunching on the shells because he asked
later were there shells? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But Kevin asked later where they shows, you know, are
you eating something crunching? And he says, you don't snack
and apologize.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Which, by the way, who thinks of that, but Larry David.
But they never did that on the Nanny. The nanny
never had a crunchy apology pistachios, and.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Larry says to him, did you mention me in the
suicide email? He will not let go of that either,
and Yoshi hangs up. Next, Larry runs into the doctor,
and the doctor, who is played by Matt to Caro,
writes a prescription for his father for some new blood thinners,
and Larry tells the doctor about the bingo that there's
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something very fishy going on about the bron though.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
The way it's done is they get the prescription out
of the way, yeah, And it's one of Larry's one
more thing, yeah, and he really wants to do an
undercovering the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's like a Columbo moment. It one one more thing, yeah, yeah,
And he tells him she called my number, and then
Ruthie wins and Lenora gives her a dollar. How much
do you want to bet that she's getting a fifty
cent kickback? And you know, Larry says, go in there,
take you a little smock off. He says to him,
take you a little smock off. So the Doctor's like,
you want me to go on to cover? And he
(22:54):
was terrific. Matt to Carro is a doctor. I loved him.
And next Larry's at the pharmacist and the pharmacist he
doesn't like the drug that's on the prescription. He would
likes a different drug better. Have you ever had that experience? Me? Yeah,
that the pharmacy act in that store.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
That store was in Pasadena, that drug store I always
remember where we filmed stuff. And I'm in the aisle watching.
I'm not in the video village. I'm just watching from
an angle. But on the shelf behind Larry top shelf
is adult you know, diaper per se and this is
the actual name of the product, Sir Dignity, Sir Dignity
(23:33):
and Lady Dignity. And I began doing commercials for the
Dignity things and Laura found them very funny. But that's
my memory of that scene, the fucking dignity stuff, because
I've not seen it since. Maybe they make it. Maybe
the pharmacist is Sir Dignity. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We'll be right back, Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Larry goes through a whole thing about doctor, pharmacist, doctor pharmacist,
who do you trust? And then he decides to go
with the pharmacist and then Larry runs into the doctor
outside of the nursing home and he says, any progress
on the Bengal business, and he's like, keep your eye
on this Ruthie. I don't trust her. And then he
(24:27):
tells them that the pharmacist disagrees with his prescription just.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Came from the pharmacist.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
He kind of wants to go a different way with
the medication, sort of disagreed with you. The pharmacist. Yeah,
he wrote out a drug here.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't know what it is, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Need a prescription from you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
For this.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You need a prescription from me for something.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The pharmacist has suggested. He was quite passionate about it,
you know, he deals with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'm a doctor, Larry. Well, he's a pharmacist, yes, and
I'm a doctor. He's a pharmacist, doctor, pharmacist, doctor.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Pharmacist, doctor, pharmacist. And the doctor's not happy about this,
but the doctor gives him a new prescription. And then
Larry enters the home and he hears.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Fuck me, I want you.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Fuck me.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It feels so good. Oh oh, I want your big.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Cock, really really loud, fuck me. I want your cock.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
By the way, I don't know who did that voiceover
or if it was really coming from the movie. So
he's walking around, Look, nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
All these old people know.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And they don't notice. And he knocks at his father's
door and walks in. I was really surprised that on
the screen was real hardcore. It was really hardcore porn.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
She's yeah, I'm very loud, very loud.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
But I'm like, what the fuck. I was shocked that
we did that.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, I don't remember. I didn't remember that until I
saw it watching.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, I was like, wow, I didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Larry turns it off and then he says, there's something
fishy with this. Bingo does Ruthie win a lot?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Hold On? Hold On, hold On. He comes in and
he says, with it, why is it so loud what
I'm watching? And what I found funny about it, you know,
as they were discussing it, is that there is no
you'd think he's watching Captain Kangaroo. The way he's watching
the porn is like you're watching Colombo right there watching
(26:40):
it And I found that hilarious.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, and he got mad.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And he goes, I'm watching I'm watching I thought that
was really funny. How you can move on.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So then he says, does Ruthie win a lot? And
and Nat says, of course she wins a lot. This
woman is a winner. He says, you know, he's in
love with her. And then Ruthie enters when she's not
happy to see Lat and he tells them about Yoshi,
and he's talking to Nette and he says to Nett,
he didn't die, and that's what he's going and he
says very loud, die die die, and the doctor walks
(27:12):
by and sees Larry screaming at Ruthie die die again.
I didn't love that scene either.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Well, by the way, I want to say that if
that scene was subtler, I would get it, like just
you know, yeah, yeah and die and they go oh
or two diys tops all right, just saying too many.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Larry then goes back to the pharmacy and he tells
the pharmacist the doctor was upset, and he sees the
tag on the pharmacists shirt and says his name is Kofi,
and then he says to him, have you ever been
to that Japanese restaurant across the street And he's like yeah.
So then Larry immediately makes the assumption that this is
the guy who carved his name into the table and
(27:52):
decides to go with the doctor. He doesn't trust this
guy anymore because he's a carver. Next, Larry and Cheryl
are at the Japanese restaurant.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
By the way, I want to say a little thing
about this with him at the medicines. It's blood thinner.
His dad really needs blood thinner. And I believe this.
He's so involved in his own adventure that the real
thing is he's not getting his head.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
This medicine medication.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But I completely believe that because he gets caught up
in the world of Larry.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And there at the Japanese restaurant, and he tells her
about Kofe and the pharmacist, and Cheryl's just on her
BlackBerry and she's not even paying attention to him.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Hold on, hold on, hold on. How ahead of the
curve were we?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This was?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
What year was this? Two thousand and five?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Louis. People have a different reason for their heads in
the phone. What I have to do is it wasn't
popular like it is now when I was married to Marla.
But I have to ask Sari when we have a meal,
can you please put your phone down in a way.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh no, I have rules. The phone is not allowed
on the table. It's not allowed on the table.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Okay, okay, let me just say something. You have respect.
No one respects me. So when I make a demand,
it's not a demand. It's like, could you could you
please my children, my ex wife, as I mentioned, very
close with my friends what I say. That's why I
(29:17):
love talking to young comedians. I do love it because
they're hanging on every word, and I'm like, oh, finally,
I'm just saying. Everyone just falls asleep when I talk.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
All right, I'm moving on. I'm moving on. Cheryl is
checking her.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Black Ferry and Larry gets upset about that, and Larry
gets up to go to the bathroom. And as he
gets up to go to the bathroom, the sushi chefs
start with the chicken karaiyaki boy and cluck cluck, cluck,
chicken cluck cluck.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yoshi Yoshi, great, this.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is great, And just then Yoshi and Kevin niel And
walk in and Yoshi freaks out and runs out like
a little wuss that he is.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And by the way, I completely believe that, uh huh,
because sometimes people walk in when things are going with
the timing, and I believe the chicken thing, and I
believe he'd run out. I'm just saying, you know, because
we said a few things during this episode. We're like,
I don't know, but this one you believed.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And then then another guy walks in, a dark haired
guy looking nothing like the pharmacist, and Koffee is here,
and that's kofee. It wasn't the pharmacist. This guy who
walks in, and Larry walks out to Kevin, and Larry says,
I kept my end of the bargain, So fork up
the money you owe me.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Like I said, the Koffee run it didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It was nothing run nowhere. That does happen, especially me
when I'm doing stand up.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
You throw it out there, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So Kevin says, that's not a proper apology that you made.
I don't owe you the money because you were eating
pistas while you made the apology and there was shells
and it's not a proper apology. And then Larry challenges him,
all right, I want my money back. It's going to
be double and nothing at Bingo tomorrow night at the
nursing home. Then Cheryl's suicide, BlackBerry I don't know what
that meant. That wasn't really no, she got more info
(31:16):
on it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
But that's when she comes in and defends Larry. That
scene right, the chicken thing, and because that's a rare
one where Cheryl calmly will go, yes, he's Teriaki chicken boy.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Next word bingo and Nat tells Larry he shouldn't be there,
and they're playing and you see them very competitive he
and he and Kevin are marking the things with that little,
you know, colored thing, and Larry gets bingo and a
lady points to Larry and says he's the one that
tried to kill Ruthie. And all the old people are
giving him dirty looks, and Larry tries to explain, but
(31:48):
then they all start getting up and coming after him
like some bad horror movie.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yes, but it reminds me, you know, they're all zombies.
But yeah, even though it's absurd that they all would
get together and go after him, it worked comedically. Like comedically,
that's the kind of scene where you can't overthink it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And why do I have hear Kofe was here? Did
he say something about Kofe was? I don't know why
I have that then they come after him. Kofi was
I don't know, and then Tanaka Yoshi's father is an
electric wheelchair and then goes.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
The line the zombies the people. Yeah, they make a
lane for him.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, make a lane with anger, with anger and venom.
And he goes after Larry. And that's the end of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Okay, but the next episode Larry was walking. Fine. We
didn't attend a funeral. Why do we do that? Yo,
it's so funny. We'll have a storyline for the season.
It's gone for the next season. Like you know, a
show is always just oh, they're gonna be working at
an ice cream shop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
We've had We've had so many. I was pregnant with
the baby.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We never had the baby, and then it was the
sun in the other But by the way, what else
we did, which is a throwback to the fifties, like
the Honeymooners whatever. We would use the same actors two
or three times in a different part. And because Larry
came from that era, the Bilco era, what have you
where a guy was a cop in one episode Bully. Yes,
(33:16):
And I've always pushed for two things. One is, if
you're doing a comedy, you say something funny. The other
person either comments because they don't find it funny, or
they laugh. I really think I mentioned this before. I swear.
I think we're the first television situation comedy where when
one person says something funny, the other person laughs. And
(33:39):
by the way, it's kind of essential. I know, you
gotta leave, We're done, you know what.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
But don't you remember they used to do that on
the Carol Burnett Show. They used to break up and
laugh all the time.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well, that was on camera. And by the way, my
favorite scene ever on SNL is the cowbell scene. And
in that scene, there was no way not to laugh.
And those guys tried to keep a straight face. They couldn't.
And it makes that scene, which is funny as hell,
so much funnier. Christopher Walking, he plays a producer, I
(34:12):
need more cow bell and Will Ferrells hitting the cow bell.
I just watched it the other day. I was laughing.
I've seen a hundred times. I'm gonna watch it when
we hang up of.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That, okay, and we're gonna be back next week.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We will, and by the way, it'll be very exciting.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Goodbye.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Thank you for listening.
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Hello everybody, I'm Susisman.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Who are you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Jeff Garlin, one of America's.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Top teams, and we are on season five of Curby Enthusiasm,
Episode four, and this episode is Kamikazi Bingo and Jeff
and I have both said not our favorite episode.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No, but I want to say that on paper it
was funny, it just didn't It's not like Larry Misses
with the outline, it's just how it's put together. It
just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
From me, and quite frankly, I would say out of
we have one hundred twenty well not counting the pilot special,
we have one hundred and twenty episodes, and the number
of episodes that maybe don't quite work are very few. Really, yeah,
less than five.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Easy to be two, three, I don't know, but this one.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I mean I could think of two right off the bat,
including this one. So so there's not many is.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
One of those where he flushes the toilet and it
hurts his ears.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, I wasn't thinking we haven't done that yet, so
I forgot about that. Well, but that one, the one
that didn't work was that one in season one, what
was it, the chiropractor one that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Was well, By the way, I also want to say,
that's based on a real the acupuncturiss therist.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, so that really chiropractor one was last season of
the season before with Josh gadd okay, Josh y yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No, no, no, wait wait wait wait wait, that guy
is based on my acupuncturists and Larry's and we.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Established that at the time. No, but we did the episode, I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Know, but that guy really set them flowers and right,
he never sent me flowers. I was okay with that, but.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Something just didn't work. And then in this episode, same thing.
Something's not working for me, but we'll discuss it. Yeah.
So we start out with at Hannah Sushi where Cheryl
is having lunch with or dinner I'm not sure with
with Yoshi and Larry walks in, and when Larry walks in,
all the sushi chefs call him chicken Kara yaki boy.
(02:34):
And they start clucklook, cluck and doing all these crazy
things Sushi and they.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So he you know, knowed, they know they.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Know him, they know him as Chicken Terara Yaki.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But because by the way, those guys greet everybody in
a nice, big way because they know somebody, I can
see them doing this, but again it's a seed you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
See coming, that's right. And they're clucking and they're clucking
and they're moving their arms like they do in the
Funky Chicken. And Cheryl is sitting with Yoshi, who was
Greg Watana be and Yoshi bows at Larry and Larry's
nuts about the bow. He loves the bow. He feels
like we need humility in the bow and that we're
all too cocky.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
See his performance for me, by the way, everything he
did was good, but it didn't make sense. What I
mean by that is him being so quiet and committing suicide.
You need to see the look in his eye because
when people are vulnerable, they wear masks, and he was.
He was vulnerable from the worst first. Yes, in the
(03:38):
very beginning, yes, and that was not in the script,
I mean the outline, but it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Was an acting choice of him.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah. But when Larry talks about what we're going to
get to his father being a kamikaze piet, and he
has doubts about it. Then you see the transformation from
you know, affable guy to that. All right, So I'm
always going to give my directing problems because these are
these are not script problems, they're directing problems. I don't
(04:06):
like it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Cheryl and Yoshi are talking about sculptures and Larry says
he'd like a sculpture with a big penis and big balls.
It's the kind of sculpture that he's looking for. And
then he sees on the table a little scratched in
thing that says Kofi was here, scratched in, carved into
the table, and it's kind of like a they discussed
(04:28):
it's a low life, a thing way to do.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But also this is also a seed and where it
goes was not worth.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It doesn't work. It doesn't work. That's what I'm saying
these things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And by the way, the last one with the guy
not a director's fault, but a director could have adjusted
the performance or Larry could have. And I don't remember
saying anything on the set because I just want to
be clear that I'm not just blaming the director. This
is a casting slash. Everyone's fault and the guy's good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh yeah. And then we established Yoshi's father and Larry's
father are in the same nursing home and that they're friends,
and Yoja.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Gave Cherry gave the old person condescending Oh that's so cute, yes,
as if when you get to that age, you know
you're adorable.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And and Yoshi says that for his dad's eightieth they
took him to Japan and he hadn't been back since
the war, and he saw family and he saw his
military buddies. And Larry asked what he did, and Yoshi
tells him he was a pilot. What did he do
in the war?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He was a pilot.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Really, you're kind of a Kamakazi pilot. Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Wow, will he be dead?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Not all of them died a Kamakazi pilot.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It kind of implies that, you know, Kamakazi pis is
a pilot who crashed and died.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right, he's thank goodness for this, you too, What did
you say that?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But what happened exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Did he did he try and crash the plane into
a ship. He grazed the ship a Kama Kazi pilot,
and then Larry says, well, if it was a Kama
Kazie pilot, wouldn't he be dead? And he makes a
good point.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, by the way, I also would guess that some
Kamakazi guys lived, of course, Yeah, the ones that went
right into the boat and exploded. Okay, that's true Kami kazi.
But sometimes they do something it doesn't work, and they're
still alive. I don't know if when they get back
the generals go, you should be dead.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, what's going on? We're not that familiar with the
whole Kamakazi protocol. But Larry will not let up on this.
He really really pushes it. He's like, well, what happened?
And Yoshi is getting very upset, and he goes he
grazed the ship and Larry's but Larry's like push it,
like would the last second he changed his mind, and
you see Yoshi getting more and more uncomfortable, and then
(07:05):
Larry orders the chicken kara yaki. And this also was
not totally believable to me, and he says chicken many
many times.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So what wasn't believable is Larry would have realized that
he wouldn't make fun of the grazing like it took
it too far. I understand inherent curiosity, but it went
too far. And then this one sang chicken that much,
and then later on saying it was an accident, which
I believed.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He believed it was a little weird.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, because I tell you what it was. It was Larry.
Larry ordered the chicken and said chicken. I can believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But he said chicken like four or five times. No,
but looked at.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Him and said chicken.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It was fucking weird.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, And you see that Yoshi's uncomfortable. And then we
cut to poker game at Kevin Nielan's house and it
is lu Schneider and Jill Rosenthal and Alan Kershenbaund and
you and Larry playing poker, and Larry tells him about
hiring a private eye because he thinks that he's adopted,
(08:08):
and Phil Rosenthal asks about how Lewis is and Larry says, no,
there's something wrong with him, something with his kidney. And
all of that is really just adding the PI and
adding Lewis's kidney is just set up for later episodes.
Nothing happens about that in this episode. And then Kevin's
wife comes in with snacks and we find out that
she's Yoshi's sister, and Yoshi's supposed to be playing with them,
(08:31):
but he never showed up.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But again, a guy with that personality, how would he
fit in that game? No?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Not really, it's media or a comedy writer.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
No, no, But I'm saying again, not believable that this.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Career quiet hanging out with Louis and you all comedy guys.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, well, the audience, I'm a manager, but all the
people at the table are comedy people.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yoshi was supposed to be playing. And then we established
again that their fathers are friendly, and Larry says he's
going to go there tomorrow to play bingo and he
thinks he's gonna win because he's a great bingo player.
And then the phone rings and Kevin answers it, and
we find down.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Hold On, doesn't he asked the sister about the kamikaze thing?
And then and then Neilan says, no, a lot of
them lived.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Maybe exchange keep going.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And then Kevin answers and we find out that Yoshi
tried to commit suicide and they quickly run out.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
For me, I believed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I believe that also.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And by the way, really is great in this episode.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
However he is. However, I felt like it was a
little bit of a waste of Kevin because Kevin is
so so funny, and he was not allowed to be
funny really in this episode.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But by the way, I curb a lot. That's me.
But as he just because to be funny, I believe. No,
I yes, you know what I am on the show.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kevin was playing a serious part. You don't play a
serious part.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well no, but I'm saying he was great. I believed
every part of his thing. So I don't think it's
a waste. I think it's just an acting job for Ketch.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, I know, but I just think Kevin's so funny
that I enjoy him being funny.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know. They even sent me a note after last
season about how grateful he is that I lay the pipe,
that I set up what's about to happen, and then
he wrote, somebody's got to do it, and it's me. Yeah,
I've get lots of opportunities to be funny, but a
lot of times I'm just saying shit, that's going to
lead to something. You know, and I've actually figured out
(10:43):
a sports analogy. I'm like a tight end. Sometimes I
have to stay in the block, and sometimes I get
to score a touchdown. Like that's the only player. Because
I went through all the sports and if anyone knows
football is listening understands what I'm saying. You get some good,
big catches, but you also day in and protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Mister Larry David, I'm the cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I've just pictured you in a cheerleader outfit, with the
way you are even as a girl, that's fucking Did
you didn't wear in a cheerleader were you? Yeah? I
would bet everything.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Then.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So then Kevin and his wife leave to go to
Seyoshi and Larry says, I just saw him last night,
and Jeff you said, does he seem weird? And Louis says,
was there anything he was humiliated by say that to
me too on the money.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I was really jarred from the scene because I
didn't remember that because mine's a naive question of like
I'm curious that one is like, Hey, I'm going to
give you some meat that everyone's expecting you to eat.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So we'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Stay tuned, Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So then everybody's like, you know, what do we do?
Do we leave? But you don't know the alarm and
you don't have a key, and there's a pizza coming.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oh, we're here. We are here.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
That's true because you know, I had to really to
get out tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm kind of happy to be anywhere, and you know,
we can't leave the house. They're gone keys, I don't
know the alarm caught or anything. And a pizza is coming.
Got a pizza coming? Yeah, I got a pizza coming.
And he tried. He didn't actually kill himself, very distinction
because tried.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
If he said he tried to, he just didn't, which
means he's alarmed.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Okay, is it?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So of course you gotta stay. And also and he
tried but he didn't actually do it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And but also when he comes back, he'll be happy
that we're here. Someone said that. I don't know, but
I like that part. Actually, I believe that it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Was sad to me to see Alan there.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, our friend Alan Kirschenbaum, who was in the scene.
Alan didn't say much in the scene, No, he did.
He spoke the least.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Alan was Freddie Roman's son. For people who don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
If anyone is listening and they know who Freddie Roman is,
please write in. I'll give you an autographed album.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Freddie died recently.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah. By the way, I met Freddie,
I'm not even kidding you forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh up to the.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
College shrip in Florida.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know. He came into the restaurant I was working in,
and the fellow waitress of mine knew him and introduced me.
She said, friend of mine wants to be a comic.
I think I've been doing it for a few months.
And she introduced me to Freddie and he told me
years later he remembered meeting me and remember thinking, oh,
this poor kid, she'll never make it. He was wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, by the way, I also want to add I
had a moment like that that really surprised me. Well,
what's the gentleman's name who runs Discovery HBO? Your friend
David Zaslov. David Zaslov. So I'm in Barney Greengrass, and
what's his name? Green Grass? Who owns it? Oh? Gary,
Gary green Rest comes over and this has happened before.
(14:06):
One of my customers would really like to meet you.
He comes over very unassuming, and I'm very nice. But
at a certain point I looked at him and went, wait,
you're my boss. You're my boss. You're in charge of
everything that I could possibly do on screen. And yeah,
he was very nice. He's not getting the greatest press,
(14:27):
but very I found him to be very nice. And
how lucky are we that it's this fake Krby is
his favorite show?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, he came to said, I don't know if you
were there this season. Oh yes you were, because but
what I.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Want to say is all these shows had these huge
cuts on so many levels. He left us alone.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, yeah, but he was. He's only been our boss
for this past season before that, but.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
The idea that our show is his favorite show and
he won't touch it. He's a good guy that he's
cut everything else. He's a good friend and he's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So all you guys are still playing poker and yunking
it up and laughing and smoking cigars, and Kevin Nealan
walks back in and he's like, what are you doing.
He's appalled, and Jeff says, I told you guys you
should leave.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I know, I turned, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They a little fucking liar, But the.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Best line is a subtle little line in that scene.
Phil Rosenthal delivered it perfectly. I took an orange.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I took an orange. And for those of you who
don't know, let me just say, because some people might
not know. Phil Rosenthal was the creator and executive producer,
and everybody loves a guy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And he's been on the show a couple of times. Yeah,
and he's really hit it a couple of times. But
when he said in the he knew how to deliver
it how it needed to be said, and he said,
I took an order.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I took an orange. Well, he's you know, he knows
what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I just because everything's loud and bouncing, and right away,
I took an orange, like he wants to admit.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
To that beautiful And then Kevin kicks them all out,
and Larry says, Larry says to Kevin before lose, did
Yoshi mention my name? Because he started to have an
idea that maybe it was about him.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Larry's character is always about like wondering if it's about him.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes, And then he gets home and Cheryl's there and
she says, did you hear about Yoshi? And apparently he
sent Cheryl a suicide email, and Larry wants to hear
the suicide email because he's afraid that it's about him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm sure that this has happened, but I never would
have thought of suicide email. I think that's fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, And Cheryl says it's private. Larry says, we're married.
You get the sex, but you get all the information too,
And he wants to see it, and and Cheryl says,
if you would should have seen it, he would have
copied you the computer all that.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So Larry the character is like your share whatever. And
he and I have a policy when we talk about something,
we don't tell anybody else. You might be the only
other person that could get involved with a Larry discussion
because you're very close with Larry, and you're closer than
I am that people want to know. But we're very
(17:05):
close with Larry anyhow, it's a strict policy, and especially
your significant other.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Next week, cut to Larry is at the old age home.
He's playing bingo and you're clearly enjoying himself. And NAT's
girlfriend is sitting next to Nat and she tells him
you're so noisy. She says to Larry and Larry all
of a sudden Bingo he is bingo and Lenore who
is the checker.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
The character of Larry and real Larry never would cheat. Never.
He has to feel really good about his accomplishment and
whatever he does, so you know when you're watching, if
you watch the show, he's not lying, because we would
firmly establish on a sheet that that wasn't calling and
that to be a storyline, which it is of him
(17:50):
faking winning. But this is really funny because which it
sets up I think a really funny run.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And did you notice that Leonore the checker. I know Milly,
that's right, Anne Morgan Gilbert who played Milly on The
Dick vand and that show.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Mary Tyler, Moore's best friend The Neighbors with Jerry, the
dentist Jerry Parris, who also had a career. He was
a very successful television director. I mean I didn't know that,
Oh happy days did Dick Van Dyke show all of them? Jerry?
I never got to work with him. I wanted to,
but he directed a ton of TV shows.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Milly also played the grandmother on The Nanny and Not
Millie and Morgan Gilbert, who played Milly, also played the
grandmother on the Nanny.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And that, by the way, just like you mentioning Freddie
Roman the Nanny. You couldn't pay me to watch it.
I've never seen it and I wouldn't watch it. All
I needed to see was a commercial for it, and
I just say the words.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm out, So Angela Patton plays Ruthie, and Lenore, who
plays by Milly, says.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Okay, I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I did not call I seventeen. I never did. He's
not correct, I did not call cheat.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
All right, let me see that pet.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
No, you're not what nobody checks out?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, why can't I check out your pet?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Because I never let anyone look at my pat. Good
for you, Leonor, she's really obnoxious this Ruthie and Larry
wants to see her pad, and then all of a sudden,
Ruthie has bingo. Larry wants to see Leonora's pad and
Leonora doesn't show anybody the pat and Kevin and his
wife are with Yoshi and his wife's father, and Larry
(19:36):
says hello, and the father is very cold to him,
gives him the cold shoulder, and he asked about Yoshi
Yoshi's doing.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
The father doesn't say a line in the episode.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Not one line. Tanaka Tanaka is his name, And Yoshi's
home doing fine apparently, and Kevin says, don't pretend you're concerned.
And you were there yucking it up and having pizza,
and Larry says, we thought about him between hands, like
she's so, And then Kevin tells him you're the reason
(20:06):
that he attempted suicide because you humiliated him over the
whole comic coaze thing. You taunted him and you called
him chicken, and Larry says, there's a big difference between
saying you're a chicken and have a piece of chicken.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So and he also was like, no, that's what they
call me. They call me yocky. And in this moment,
Cheryl backs him.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She says, yeah, well no, no, she wasn't here right then,
this is.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Late mistake I've done that I jump this is.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
In the nursing home. And then Larry tells him that
Kevin ran out and he owed him three hundred dollars
and Kevin says, I'll give you chips back, but you
have to call Yoshi at home and apologize. So Larry
says he will call Yoshi at home and apologize and
he does call him to apologize, and as he's apologizing,
he's eating pistachio nuts. Oh hey, Yoshi, this is Larry David.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Oh hello, Larry.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm actually I'm calling to apologize.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'm sorry if I said anything that might have been inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I don't really mean anything to happen.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I was just kind of curious with the whole comm thing.
You know, are you are you eating something?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I'm eating pistachio nuts.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You're eating pistachio nuts while you're apologizing to me, yes,
so you can't be sincere about apologizing then snack on
pistachio nuts. Well, I can eat and apologize.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
There's no pistachio crunching and apologizing. You can't be sincere,
you know, with eating pistachio nuts.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And by the way, how funny was it seeing him
in the chair crunching on the shells because he asked
later were there shells? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But Kevin asked later where they shows, you know, are
you eating something crunching? And he says, you don't snack
and apologize.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Which, by the way, who thinks of that, but Larry David.
But they never did that on the Nanny. The nanny
never had a crunchy apology pistachios, and.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Larry says to him, did you mention me in the
suicide email? He will not let go of that either,
and Yoshi hangs up. Next, Larry runs into the doctor,
and the doctor, who is played by Matt to Caro,
writes a prescription for his father for some new blood thinners,
and Larry tells the doctor about the bingo that there's
(22:20):
something very fishy going on about the bron though.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
The way it's done is they get the prescription out
of the way, yeah, And it's one of Larry's one
more thing, yeah, and he really wants to do an
undercovering the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's like a Columbo moment. It one one more thing, yeah, yeah,
And he tells him she called my number, and then
Ruthie wins and Lenora gives her a dollar. How much
do you want to bet that she's getting a fifty
cent kickback? And you know, Larry says, go in there,
take you a little smock off. He says to him,
take you a little smock off. So the Doctor's like,
you want me to go on to cover? And he
(22:54):
was terrific. Matt to Carro is a doctor. I loved him.
And next Larry's at the pharmacist and the pharmacist he
doesn't like the drug that's on the prescription. He would
likes a different drug better. Have you ever had that experience? Me? Yeah,
that the pharmacy act in that store.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
That store was in Pasadena, that drug store I always
remember where we filmed stuff. And I'm in the aisle watching.
I'm not in the video village. I'm just watching from
an angle. But on the shelf behind Larry top shelf
is adult you know, diaper per se and this is
the actual name of the product, Sir Dignity, Sir Dignity
(23:33):
and Lady Dignity. And I began doing commercials for the
Dignity things and Laura found them very funny. But that's
my memory of that scene, the fucking dignity stuff, because
I've not seen it since. Maybe they make it. Maybe
the pharmacist is Sir Dignity. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We'll be right back, Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Larry goes through a whole thing about doctor, pharmacist, doctor pharmacist,
who do you trust? And then he decides to go
with the pharmacist and then Larry runs into the doctor
outside of the nursing home and he says, any progress
on the Bengal business, and he's like, keep your eye
on this Ruthie. I don't trust her. And then he
(24:27):
tells them that the pharmacist disagrees with his prescription just.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Came from the pharmacist.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
He kind of wants to go a different way with
the medication, sort of disagreed with you. The pharmacist. Yeah,
he wrote out a drug here.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't know what it is, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Need a prescription from you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
For this.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You need a prescription from me for something.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The pharmacist has suggested. He was quite passionate about it,
you know, he deals with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'm a doctor, Larry. Well, he's a pharmacist, yes, and
I'm a doctor. He's a pharmacist, doctor, pharmacist, doctor.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Pharmacist, doctor, pharmacist. And the doctor's not happy about this,
but the doctor gives him a new prescription. And then
Larry enters the home and he hears.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Fuck me, I want you.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Fuck me.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It feels so good. Oh oh, I want your big.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Cock, really really loud, fuck me. I want your cock.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
By the way, I don't know who did that voiceover
or if it was really coming from the movie. So
he's walking around, Look, nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
All these old people know.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And they don't notice. And he knocks at his father's
door and walks in. I was really surprised that on
the screen was real hardcore. It was really hardcore porn.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
She's yeah, I'm very loud, very loud.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
But I'm like, what the fuck. I was shocked that
we did that.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, I don't remember. I didn't remember that until I
saw it watching.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, I was like, wow, I didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Larry turns it off and then he says, there's something
fishy with this. Bingo does Ruthie win a lot?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Hold On? Hold On, hold On. He comes in and
he says, with it, why is it so loud what
I'm watching? And what I found funny about it, you know,
as they were discussing it, is that there is no
you'd think he's watching Captain Kangaroo. The way he's watching
the porn is like you're watching Colombo right there watching
(26:40):
it And I found that hilarious.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, and he got mad.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And he goes, I'm watching I'm watching I thought that
was really funny. How you can move on.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So then he says, does Ruthie win a lot? And
and Nat says, of course she wins a lot. This
woman is a winner. He says, you know, he's in
love with her. And then Ruthie enters when she's not
happy to see Lat and he tells them about Yoshi,
and he's talking to Nette and he says to Nett,
he didn't die, and that's what he's going and he
says very loud, die die die, and the doctor walks
(27:12):
by and sees Larry screaming at Ruthie die die again.
I didn't love that scene either.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Well, by the way, I want to say that if
that scene was subtler, I would get it, like just
you know, yeah, yeah and die and they go oh
or two diys tops all right, just saying too many.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Larry then goes back to the pharmacy and he tells
the pharmacist the doctor was upset, and he sees the
tag on the pharmacists shirt and says his name is Kofi,
and then he says to him, have you ever been
to that Japanese restaurant across the street And he's like yeah.
So then Larry immediately makes the assumption that this is
the guy who carved his name into the table and
(27:52):
decides to go with the doctor. He doesn't trust this
guy anymore because he's a carver. Next, Larry and Cheryl
are at the Japanese restaurant.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
By the way, I want to say a little thing
about this with him at the medicines. It's blood thinner.
His dad really needs blood thinner. And I believe this.
He's so involved in his own adventure that the real
thing is he's not getting his head.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
This medicine medication.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But I completely believe that because he gets caught up
in the world of Larry.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And there at the Japanese restaurant, and he tells her
about Kofe and the pharmacist, and Cheryl's just on her
BlackBerry and she's not even paying attention to him.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Hold on, hold on, hold on. How ahead of the
curve were we?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
This was?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
What year was this? Two thousand and five?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Louis. People have a different reason for their heads in
the phone. What I have to do is it wasn't
popular like it is now when I was married to Marla.
But I have to ask Sari when we have a meal,
can you please put your phone down in a way.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh no, I have rules. The phone is not allowed
on the table. It's not allowed on the table.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Okay, okay, let me just say something. You have respect.
No one respects me. So when I make a demand,
it's not a demand. It's like, could you could you
please my children, my ex wife, as I mentioned, very
close with my friends what I say. That's why I
(29:17):
love talking to young comedians. I do love it because
they're hanging on every word, and I'm like, oh, finally,
I'm just saying. Everyone just falls asleep when I talk.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
All right, I'm moving on. I'm moving on. Cheryl is
checking her.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Black Ferry and Larry gets upset about that, and Larry
gets up to go to the bathroom. And as he
gets up to go to the bathroom, the sushi chefs
start with the chicken karaiyaki boy and cluck cluck, cluck,
chicken cluck cluck.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yoshi Yoshi, great, this.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is great, And just then Yoshi and Kevin niel And
walk in and Yoshi freaks out and runs out like
a little wuss that he is.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And by the way, I completely believe that, uh huh,
because sometimes people walk in when things are going with
the timing, and I believe the chicken thing, and I
believe he'd run out. I'm just saying, you know, because
we said a few things during this episode. We're like,
I don't know, but this one you believed.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And then then another guy walks in, a dark haired
guy looking nothing like the pharmacist, and Koffee is here,
and that's kofee. It wasn't the pharmacist. This guy who
walks in, and Larry walks out to Kevin, and Larry says,
I kept my end of the bargain, So fork up
the money you owe me.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Like I said, the Koffee run it didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It was nothing run nowhere. That does happen, especially me
when I'm doing stand up.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
You throw it out there, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So Kevin says, that's not a proper apology that you made.
I don't owe you the money because you were eating
pistas while you made the apology and there was shells
and it's not a proper apology. And then Larry challenges him,
all right, I want my money back. It's going to
be double and nothing at Bingo tomorrow night at the
nursing home. Then Cheryl's suicide, BlackBerry I don't know what
that meant. That wasn't really no, she got more info
(31:16):
on it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
But that's when she comes in and defends Larry. That
scene right, the chicken thing, and because that's a rare
one where Cheryl calmly will go, yes, he's Teriaki chicken boy.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Next word bingo and Nat tells Larry he shouldn't be there,
and they're playing and you see them very competitive he
and he and Kevin are marking the things with that little,
you know, colored thing, and Larry gets bingo and a
lady points to Larry and says he's the one that
tried to kill Ruthie. And all the old people are
giving him dirty looks, and Larry tries to explain, but
(31:48):
then they all start getting up and coming after him
like some bad horror movie.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yes, but it reminds me, you know, they're all zombies.
But yeah, even though it's absurd that they all would
get together and go after him, it worked comedically. Like comedically,
that's the kind of scene where you can't overthink it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And why do I have hear Kofe was here? Did
he say something about Kofe was? I don't know why
I have that then they come after him. Kofi was
I don't know, and then Tanaka Yoshi's father is an
electric wheelchair and then goes.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
The line the zombies the people. Yeah, they make a
lane for him.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, make a lane with anger, with anger and venom.
And he goes after Larry. And that's the end of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Okay, but the next episode Larry was walking. Fine. We
didn't attend a funeral. Why do we do that? Yo,
it's so funny. We'll have a storyline for the season.
It's gone for the next season. Like you know, a
show is always just oh, they're gonna be working at
an ice cream shop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
We've had We've had so many. I was pregnant with
the baby.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We never had the baby, and then it was the
sun in the other But by the way, what else
we did, which is a throwback to the fifties, like
the Honeymooners whatever. We would use the same actors two
or three times in a different part. And because Larry
came from that era, the Bilco era, what have you
where a guy was a cop in one episode Bully. Yes,
(33:16):
And I've always pushed for two things. One is, if
you're doing a comedy, you say something funny. The other
person either comments because they don't find it funny, or
they laugh. I really think I mentioned this before. I swear.
I think we're the first television situation comedy where when
one person says something funny, the other person laughs. And
(33:39):
by the way, it's kind of essential. I know, you
gotta leave, We're done, you know what.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
But don't you remember they used to do that on
the Carol Burnett Show. They used to break up and
laugh all the time.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well, that was on camera. And by the way, my
favorite scene ever on SNL is the cowbell scene. And
in that scene, there was no way not to laugh.
And those guys tried to keep a straight face. They couldn't.
And it makes that scene, which is funny as hell,
so much funnier. Christopher Walking, he plays a producer, I
(34:12):
need more cow bell and Will Ferrells hitting the cow bell.
I just watched it the other day. I was laughing.
I've seen a hundred times. I'm gonna watch it when
we hang up of.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That, okay, and we're gonna be back next week.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We will, and by the way, it'll be very exciting.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Goodbye.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Thank you for listening.
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