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December 12, 2024 33 mins

Luigi Mangione's army of fans leave disturbing messages as 'revolution' fundraiser grows. John recaps the weight of illegal immigration and how it’s affecting the country. An Elite School in Brooklyn hired a criminal to teach math.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
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(00:22):
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Apparently our first tutorial was well received, so we will
talk further later on Now I want to I want
to discuss this Luigi Manngione who shot that health executive

(00:42):
Brian Thompson to death on the New York City streets.
And you know what, you know what, I I don't
know why I do this. I have had to do
some errands last night. You know, one of those things.
I gotta stop at two grocery stores and a drug store,
and I got to pick up food from this place,
and got stop at the bank. And this, you know,

(01:05):
just one of those after work lists to do lists
that my wife gives me. So I listened to one
thing or another. I listened to some of Tim Conway.
And then I also listened to some of the news
coverage on seeing in a Fox of this this shooting,
and unfortunately, you know, they don't do a whole lot

(01:27):
of news at night. They have these stupid panel shows.
For god's sakes, I heard Haraldo Revera on last night.
Guy's eighty something years old and he's still sitting on
panel shows because the whole world can't wait to hear
what Haraldo Rivera has to say. And it's the same

(01:48):
tired blah blah blah blah blah about healthcare system is
broken and you're murdering people is wrong, but you know,
this is what happens when people are frustrated. It's like
and it reminded me of those endless, tedious school shooting debates. Ugh,
the school shootings are really bad, and then the follow

(02:11):
up is really bad. To listen to all these prattling
idiots in the media and the experts and they have
these pointless, fruitless discussions about gun and control and they
all know it's never going to happen. They all know
that nothing is going to change in any significant way
the gun laws in this country. Well, it's the same

(02:35):
thing here, you know, what I heard yesterday how much
money is spent by the healthcare industry, the insurance industry
on congressman and senators in Washington.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know what, how seven hundred and fifty million dollars
in lobbying and campaign contributions.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
The word for that is but nobody in polite circles
in Washington uses that word. Well, these are campaigning campaign contributions,
and those are all legal. Are their lobbying costs? And
lobbying is legal, protected by the First Amendment. You know,
corporations can hire a lobbyist to present their point. No,

(03:21):
it's all bribery. Most of the lobbyists are former government officials.
They are either politicians who got voted out of office
or they're people who used to run various agencies until
their administration got voted out of office. But when you

(03:45):
end up on the losing side, when you end up
being a loser, you end up being a financial winner
because you get hired by all these healthcare agencies, hospital groups,
medical associations, and health insurers companies. And then you go
in there with your wads of cash and you start
taking people out to Dennier. It provides you know, some

(04:07):
women on the side. I mean, I mean the look.
Did you ever sit in a doctor's office and see
the young woman who comes in and she's pulling a
roller suitcase with her and she's a drug dealer. She's
got all the drugs that she wants the doctor to

(04:29):
start selling. And she comes in and often their knockouts, right,
beautiful short dresses, nice perfume, twenty six years old, disappears
for an hour and a half in the doctor's office,

(04:50):
comes out. Everybody's got a big smile. She sold lots
of drugs. Doctor starts prescribing the drugs like crazy, handing
out samples. It's candy and Halloween time, and everybody's getting
kickbacks or more. And that's the industry. Go watch Dope

(05:13):
Sick on Hulu about the opioid crisis the nineteen nineties.
Go see how it's done. They co opt people government
government agency heads are hired by the drug companies. Doctors
are given lavish weekends at resorts where they could attend conferences,

(05:34):
and they're fed a lot of food, and they're fed
a lot of booze, and they get to beat a
lot of young women. It's a good life. It's a
lot of sex. Involved in the health and insurance industries,
and that's what keeps the world rolling. So I'm listening
to see it in all these blowhards are babbling on

(05:55):
about we did health. We need health reform, and we
need insurance reformer, or it's not gonna be any reform.
It's not gonna happen. The insurance companies are doing what
all businesses do. They are maximizing profit under the rules
that the government is laid out. They're publicly owned companies,

(06:18):
and they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to
get the greatest amount of profit, the greatest return on
investment that's legally allowed. You don't see people in this
business going to jail, primarily because they're not breaking any laws.

(06:39):
They had their representatives go to Congress and pay off
all the senators and congressmen so that the laws would allow.
Whatever behavior you're objecting to, is you elect the senators
and the congressmen. They get paid off, they outbid you.
You can cry and screen about your allowsy health insurance

(07:01):
till you know the cows come home. Cows are never
coming home. We have a corrupt government system here in America.
It's corrupt from top to bottom on every level, and
you keep electing the same corrupt fools. The Democrats squawk
the loudest. Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts Senator, practically endorsed the

(07:27):
burder two days ago. Bernie Sanders was right behind. Except
the Democrats had control of the Senate and the House
and the presidency for two years soon as Biden was elected.
From twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, they controlled Washington.
They didn't change anything, and they never will. It's like

(07:54):
it's just never ever is going to happen because they
like all the money they're getting. And the girls are
going to keep rolling into the doctor's offices in their
pretty dresses and their perfume, with their valet, their suitcase
full of drugs, god knows what else is in there,
and they're going to spend an hour with the doctor

(08:16):
and everyone's going to keep coming out smiling, and the
doctor is going to keep prescribing this stuff to you
and handing out the free samples. That's going to go
on forever. And the lobbyists, after they leave the government positions,
or leave Congress, or set it, the lobbyists are going
to take their jobs in the private sector and then
start bribing their old friends in Washington, d C. And

(08:37):
everybody's going to go out to dinner and have a
bottle of wine or two and some after dinner drinks
and meet some lovely ladies, some interns, and you're squawking
there about the high price of health insurance. Nobody cares.
You'll elect these guys. You get what you deserve. Republicans

(08:58):
can be in charge for two years like they will be.
Healthcare is not going to change. Democrats were in charge
for two straight years, you could have split government like
we've had most recently. Nothing changes, and there's a reason
nothing changes, because everybody's bride. It's almost a billion dollars
a year a year. I didn't hear any of that

(09:23):
discussed in all these panel discussions. It's amazing how nobody
wants to cut through the bs and say, well, this
is the story, this is why it's not changing. It's
like when you hear about the gun control nonsense after
a school shooting, it's like, there's four hundred guns, four
hundred million guns in America. There's no way to remove them,
and you also have constitutional protections, so it's never going

(09:44):
to happen. Ever, ever, ever, ever, and changing the healthcare
system is never going to happen ever, ever, Ever, it
doesn't matter if the guy got shot sidewalk. Everybody goes
through the ritual of thoughts and prayers, just like the
ritual for the school shooting. Thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and prayers,

(10:06):
thoughts and prayers. It's a ritual. It's symbolic. There's no
real lasting effect. Now we come back. It's incredible how
much stupidity there is in our culture, and social media
over the last fifteen years or so has revealed all

(10:28):
of it. And we are going to bring you the
girls of Luigi. These are the young women who are
practically are having an orgasmic reaction to the side of
Luigi Menngeon.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I wouldn't go that far. Well, well maybe I would.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I've seen a few of these. I don't know what
we've got.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Can't they find people that are not accused of a crime.
Aren't they interested in They're not.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I know they're not. You tell me, you know, I'll
tell you about experts. Okay, you are the look. I've
been told repeatedly that I don't understand women. Yeah, I
hear that about once a week.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So I'll try and explain.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I've accepted that. I figured that out in high school.
I didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, we have some audio to play of Luigi
Mangioni's girls. Apparently women all over all over the world
are entranced with him because he is so good looking.
I keep reading about his eyebrows. Apparently his eyebrows are
very impressive.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
They're very bushy. Is that I don't find that a
turn on?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
No? No, some women do. I guess. Yeah, I'm I
thought you're supposed to trim your eyebrows. You are right
that it was not good hygiene. It's not well. I
don't know. There's some else we're into that kind of kink.
They see bushy eyebrows and send some kind of signal

(12:08):
the old saying bushy eyebrows. Yeah. Anyway, Apparently there's gushing
messages that are flowing to Luigi through all these social
media channels. They have started a give send go page

(12:29):
and as of yesterday evening, they'd raised over thirty five
thousand dollars for his legal bills. And we're going to
play you now, this is this is one person here,
a woman. Okay, this is just an example. We also
have a montage that we're putting together. Here's one young

(12:49):
woman's expressing yourself about Luigi.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I'm no better than a man, because when I see
this Luigi guy, I black out. I started barking at
my screen. I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.
I'm like, oh, manifesto, what was it? And then they're like,
show picture, and I'm like I started blushing. I'm just like,
what are we talking about? If I could make a

(13:15):
man in a lab, that's what he would look like like,
and that's what he would act like. I just like,
I'm like a watpad and a pick starts getting written
in my mind and I don't know. I don't I
can't and keep track of what we're talking about. And
it's so thirsty, like I see, like, I see how

(13:35):
men why women.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Have pretty privileged what they do.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Because if I was a judge in that case and
he came in, I'd be like, I don't give up
what he did. I don't care. Just go let him
get on with his life. You guys like you don't
understand him the way I get him. I can't imagine
what the jury's gonna be like. They can't have a
single woman on that jury. They can't, and half of.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Men, majority of men, like.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
What the fun I see Lizzy Grant's songs start playing
in my head, not even Lona, all right, Lizzy Grant
demo tape starts playing in my head, and I like,
just like tunnel vision, everything, I like just black out
and I can't keep to This is such an interesting
case and what he did was so heroic, but I
can't focus.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Overwhelmed with hormones.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You tell me, this is.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
This is beyond.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
You have way more biologically in common with her than
I do.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Maybe so, but first of all, criminals or alleged criminals
not my thing. Never been turned on.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I did like to you know, I told you I
was interested at one time going into jail jail face.
I did, but not a fantasy, no, But I was
just curious about the culture. And it was for the job, John.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I see. It was a professional interesting.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
It was exactly you know, just like I do lots
of crazy things for this show. Right, Yes, that's just
that's just me. But these women. I I I honestly.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I don't get it. I really don't. I like normal men,
but it is.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
It is a hormone rush they have. They find him
so beautiful, so sexually arousing. You heard her. She she's
fairly articulate, but she had trouble completing sentences. We also
have to had to edit a lot of the F
bombs out. That's why it was a little jumpy every
time he jumped. It's because we had to cut out
an F bob.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, well that's how that's how crazy. I didn't understand
half of her pop culture references either, all of them. Actually,
I mean it was like hearing it like a space
alien speaking to me. I don't know. I don't know
what goes on in your world, in your land.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think that you need to have some of these women,
or even the Menendez women. Seriously, you should bring them
on the show and to ask them why they're atracted
to such people.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Have a whole focus group. Clearly, it's it's the physical attractiveness.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
But there's plenty of attractive men in the world that
are not behind bars or not accused of a crime.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I saw this in high school, though, the bad guys
got the best looking girls.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, but there's bad and then there's bad.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes there is, but it's still the same mechanism there.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I guess so that I was the wrong person to ask,
because I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
You were ever attracted to a bad guy?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Not like this?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, not like this.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Well, what I mean is you know what I mean? Okay,
but I mean, you know guys that are you know,
just maybe a little rough and tough kind of guy masculine. Right, Yes,
but they didn't commit, or allegedly commit.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So you have a line. She doesn't have that line? Yes,
what else do we have? Do we have another clip? Elmer? No,
we don't have any right, that's that's a good example. Though.
That's very representative.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
That's enough. These women are cuckoo.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I know I just couldn't. I couldn't imagine my
mom acting like this. I didn't know when she was,
you know, twenty years old, obviously, can you imagine?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
No, No, I'm a mom and I would have never
acted like this.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Is this like the Kardashian generation, just all the verbal tics,
just all the weird little you know, the accents.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
The real because remember the eighties.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
The Valley girls, the Valley girls.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, that's that's my least favorite dialect or whatever you
want to call you. You grew up in the Valley, I know,
Oh my god, I hate all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think I probably did when I was twelve. And
then when I think back to that, I mean, I
still I hear grown women fucking oh. I know, and
I can't.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Damn the West Side moms. You know, you see women
in their fifties and they sound like they're twelve. It
never went away.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I know. I hate it.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
And none of this was going on back East where
I grew up. None of this. I come out here,
it's like, oh my god, the grown women, the mothers
talk like the Valley girls like that.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Frank Zappa saw I gag me with a spoon, Gag
me with a spoon.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You're listening to John Kobel's on demand from KFI A
six forty.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
The New York Times. This is funny. Well, you know,
they spent years ignoring or downplaying the immigration surge, and finally, yesterday,
for the first time, they wrote the truth about the

(18:50):
immigration surge, almost like they wanted it on the record.
So if people one hundred years ago look back at
the New York Times and they want to see, how
is immigration covered. After largely ignoring and downplaying the issue
because it's part of the progressive religion, that you that
we are bound to accept millions of illegal aliens, no

(19:13):
questions asked, it finally wrote a peace that said recent
immigration surge has been the largest in US history. No, really,
you're kidding here. In December eleventh, twenty twenty four, yesterday
the New York Times admitted this immigration surge has never

(19:35):
been seen. The size of this has never been seen
in the United States since we became a nation. Wow. See,
we saw this with our own eyes. Right. You turned
on Fox News most days and you could see thousands
of people piling across the border building Malusiam, the Fox reporter,

(19:58):
spent over three years of his life chronicling every day
people coming over the border. And yet the public officials
Biden Kamala Harris that that weird little dweed, that troll.
Ojanro majorcis Homeland Security Secretary. No, the border is secure.
The border is secure, they like, And all the media

(20:21):
just kept quoting the lie up until Trump gets elected.
And now he and Tom Holman, they're going to engage
in the largest mass deportation in history. Turns out more
than half the country supports the mass deportation. By the way,
mass deportation I've seen pulling up to sixty two percent

(20:46):
of the country. Well, once everybody kicked out, they're starting
with the criminals, and they're emphasizing the criminals right now.
But the polling says sixty two. So the New York Times,
all the media outlets are trying to catch up to
where normal people are. Right. That's why you have Patrick

(21:10):
sun Chiong supposedly redesigning the thrust of the La Times,
Jeff Bezos doing the same at the Washington Post, and
now the New York Times is admitting that, Wow, this
is something else. This immigration surge net migration, the number

(21:31):
of people coming into the country minus the number leaving,
averaged almost two and a half million people from twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty three. This is the largest
in US history, surpassing the immigration boom of the late
eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. This is the largest, well,

(21:54):
this is the largest percentage of foreign born people this
country has ever had. An all time high. Fifteen percent
of the nation is far and born in nineteen seventy,
which some of you may remember. See life really did change.
The thign born population in nineteen seventy was less than

(22:16):
five percent. It's tripled in the last fifty years. Again,
this is a this is this is a percentage increase.
It's tripled the number of bodies. Oh man, it's like
exponential because the country's so much bigger. And they have

(22:41):
a chart which shows how many encounters the border patrol
had along the border before Biden took over and then
after he took over. And it's clear Biden took over
and opened the floodgates and they've come pouring in by
the millions. Then they list all the governments that are

(23:05):
upset with this because they don't have the money to
take care of oh and the cities where the public
is upset because there's no money to take care. In
New York City, they spent six billion dollars. That's why
Eric Adams is coming out and siding with Trump and
Tom Homan. Cities broke illegal aliens, broke the bank in

(23:26):
New York City, of course they did. You can't take
in two hundred and fifty thousand people, says here in Chicago,
residents have filled public meetings complaining about the overcrowding in
the streets and the schools, the money it's cost. They've

(23:46):
had to cut services in New York City and Chicago
to American citizens. They have to cut services. In Denver,
tens of thousands of migrants have arrived. Homeless people say
they've been elbowed out of the homeless, the homeless shelters,

(24:07):
the homeless. The vagrants found out where they rank in America.
If you're an American vagrant, you are behind the guy
who just came in from Venezuela. He gets your bed.
He could be a gang member, he gets your bed.
You're just an American drug addict. Back of the line, buddy.

(24:30):
There's chaos in queens in New York City because they
have so many street vendors clogging up, clogging up many
blocks and queens. In South Texas there are six counties
border counties along the Rio Grande River. Eight years ago,

(24:50):
Trump won less than thirty percent of the vote in
all six counties. Okay, he got crushed. Biden seventy to
thirty got crushed. Excuse me by Hillary Clinton. Seventy to thirty.
This year, he won all six counties because they spent

(25:12):
the last four years watching their properties and their cities
get trampled by literally millions of illegal Allians, and they
had to deal with some of them sitting there and squatting,
living on their land. New York Times finally admits that
high levels of immigration do have downsides, the pressure on

(25:33):
social services, increased competition for jobs. Listen to this. If
you're a blue collar worker, don't have a college degree. Finally,
the Congressional Budget Office and the New York Times discovered
after all these years that wage growth for Americans who
did not attend college will be lower for the next

(25:55):
few years because of the surge of illegal immigrants who
are going to work cheaper. That was obvious. They denied it.
Suddenly they went through their they went through their records
and said, well, you know, you do have a point there.
You know people on the lower end economic lef Well,

(26:17):
of course, people work in the construction industry. I remember
they calling us years ago saying, can't get a job
in construction because they hire legal aliens for a fraction
of the price off the books, and the illegals aren't
going to complain. They're not going to call a hotline.
In fact, they won't do it now they'll get deported.

(26:40):
But higher immigration can reduce the cost of services and
help hire income Americans who don't compete for jobs with immigrants. Yeah.
All the rich a holes here in California who vote
for these progressive policies, they never have to live with
the progressive policies because they're not competing for an instruction job.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
There.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You go live long enough, you'll see everything. I think
I want to frame this gold frame, put it on
the wall. New York Times admits a huge immigration surge
a lot of downside to that.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, I think we did a story within the last
couple of weeks about a school that had very bad
hiring practices.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Oh the naked teacher.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
The naked teacher, right, the naked teacher in the school
says no, No, we did a thorough vetting of Yeah,
here's another one. This is a wealthy Brooklyn private school
knowingly hired at ex con. Later he gets accused of
soliciting child porn from students.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Okay, so how do they how do these officials knowingly
hire an ex con.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Because he he had a record and this is one
of those progressive schools.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Oh, they wanted to give him a chance.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
They wanted to give him a second chance. It's it's
uh the guy's name that they hired. The name is
win Winston win Now he's He's at Saint Anne's School
in Brooklyn. Oh, my guy, it's a religious school. He
was arrested in June. He would uh lure kids online

(28:38):
and fool them into sending him x rated photos of themselves.
How do you fool somebody to send an X rated photo?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I don't know, but I have a question.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I have a question. What What were his priors? Do
we know?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, they found there's a thirty nine page report. Now
found that the top administrators, the head of school at
the time, Vincent Hopkins, the dean, Melissa Cantor, and the
upper middle school head, Maureen Yusuf Morales, they knew that
he had been arrested in the past. He had served

(29:22):
time for swindling three hundred thousand dollars from an elderly
couple and he was convicted and went to prison. And
these administrators knew about it, they didn't tell any of
the families or any of the teachers. They decided to
hire Win because their view was Saint Anne's believed in

(29:45):
second chances, and hiring someone with a criminal record was
an opportunity to act in accordance with the school's values.
It was just stealing three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
That's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
He had served time at Riker's Island for fraud and
endangering the welfare of an incompetent or physically disabled person.
But that's who he stole the money from.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Me, and.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Teachers and others who worked there said that Win appeared
to be protected from criticism by the administrators. Multiple witnesses
told investigators that students who expressed that they were upset
with Win's conviction were shamed by the administrators for not
supporting restorative justice. They were accused of just spreading rumors,

(30:39):
and then the school became aware of when targeting students
online to get the naked photos.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
And they were okay with that.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
They still didn't tell the parents even when they suspected him,
because they thought any communications would draw unwonted attention to
the vicar victims, and then it turned out he really was.
It wasn't just a suspicion. He really was luring these
kids online to send him the naked photos.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Can you imagine being a parent at that school and
finding out all this.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Brooklyn has some ultra wealthy, ultraliberal neighborhoods there, and it's
it's like going to Santa Monica or Marin County in
northern California. It's that kind of progressive left wing at
a touch.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Look, I believe that maybe some people in certain circumstances
may may deserve I should say, a second chance in life.
But I'm sorry, not somebody that's going to be at
my kid's school that was at Rikers Island Island.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know, you know what I know, second chances from
this court. No first chances, I know.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
But I mean I could see in some mother, you
know area, not a school.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
And it aligns with their values. Of course, it was
a Catholic school, and we all know about the values
and the Catholic Church in the last one hundred years.
All right, we come back, Brad Garrett, ABC News crime
and terrorism analysts. All right, So the whole world knows
that Luigi Mengione did it. He's going to have to

(32:24):
try to win an insanity plea, I think might be
his only option. But how did he get there? Considering
his privileged background and all the beautiful things that all
his friends say. And also what's still hanging in the
air is I have not seen a report that says
any of his friends are relatives called in a tip saying, Hey,

(32:47):
that's our kid, that's my buddy, that's my nephew. Everybody
stuck by the court of silence. All right, Debra mark
his live can't f I twenty four hour newsroom. You've
been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can
always hear the show live on KFI AM six forty
from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and

(33:08):
of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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