Ep. 626: Our Girls Are Here To Kick Your Ass

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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(00:45):
and Rosemary. Welcome girls, Hi Hi, Hi, uh you guys
mind hitting everybody? You know what you guys are still
the age where people always asking? Do people always ask
you how old you guys are? Ana?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sometimes it's pretty common.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I met a kid you last night. I asked him
what Grady was in. Then he kind of laughed about it,
and I said, yeah, don't actually care it grade. You know,
I was just trying to make small talk. What Gradeian?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Eighth Gradeay? Mabel, fifth grade? Okay, Pattie seventh grade?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
All right, Rosie sixth grade.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
You should know that I.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Know what like, I know that you're in the middle school,
which when I was growing up was junior high. But
here about this middle school. You guys have all been hunting.
Mabel's your first year hunting in the state, in your
state that you live in. You need to be how
old to start hunting?

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Ten?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
How old are you ten?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Okay? And then you can hunt how many years in
Montana with your parents, with your dad before you need
to go do hunter's safety. It's a quiz show, Mabel.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I have no idea like thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, you can't hunt thirteen years with your dad too.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
You can hunt two years as a mentor.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
As a mentee, so this is my last year or
next year, first year? Okay, but I hunt squirrels with you.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, this is where it gets cold.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Okay, very good point, Very good point. Yeah, you don't
need it in Montana. You don't need a hunting license
or be any sort of age to hunt squirrels, rabbits,
what else, kyo.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Any non game animal? Yeah? Yeah, so you can hunt
in our state and every state's different. In our state,
you can begin hunting at ten for game animals like
let's say dear. You can begin hunting deer at ten.
You can also hunt for two years with a mentor

(02:49):
before you have to take hunter safety. You just happen
to start your mentor hunting at the age of ten.
But let's say you never hunted until the year twelve.
You could still do two years with the mentor for
you had to do hunter safety. But since your kids
all started at the bottom end of the age bracket,
you can hunt two years with your dad and then
you got to do hunter safety.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
So we'd have to do it one more.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Twelve you'll have yep, and I know you've done hunter safety.
How'd that go?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
It was pretty good. It took a while, but I
got through it.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You cheated the system a little bit. Can you explain
that to people?

Speaker 7 (03:26):
She doesn't look at it that way.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Explain how you. I look at it like, you cheated
the system, But she's gonna ros he's going to cheat
the system.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Really, he just wants to know how you did it
without doing a field day. I think there's.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Virtual field days where you go around and they like
show you a video of how it would work, and
then you say like, oh, this is wrong, and there's
no really you're.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Right around a virtual field day.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Yeah, So you don't really get quized in that part.
It's just kind of like a you pick an answer.
You don't have to in those video says if you're
right or wrong. But some people probably don't care about
that and just skipped it the entire thing because there's
like three seconds on all the videos that are like
five minutes long.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't know if you do.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Do you think you'd be able to skip it all
and still pass?

Speaker 7 (04:10):
We heard the first hand story.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Do you hear my story?

Speaker 7 (04:13):
My buddy another buddy, Steven, whose daughter was just watching
funny Cat videos as that because you know how they
put the little timer on there right so you can't
just click all the way through. And then she went
to take the test and she failed. She had to
do the whole thing again.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
My boy, funny Cat videos.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
You guys gotta love those.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You you guys know, you guys know, of course, you know.
And Hunt with James when James had to do Hunters
when he had to do his archery certificate, okay, uh,
he did a hunter safety where you go do the
actual not virtual field day with the actual field day.
He needs to go get his archery certificate and he
comes in and it's all online and he comes in

(04:52):
and tells me that he failed the archery certification thing
by like a point and I'm living. So I sit
down with them and do it and me and him fail,
and I don't know, man, maybe we really have to
go look at the stuff because what they it's so
poorly written that it's like it's has stuff like what
is a piece of archery equipment you can do without

(05:15):
stabilizer fingertabs? It was, you know, and you're like, well
that's so subjective. It was like what's the best cookie?
You know, They're like nope, wrong, and uh a question
about how long should you wait before you start blood trailing? Right?

(05:36):
But you got it, you know, it's not what work.
It's sort of you just got to go with what
was in the thing. It's a bad experience.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Yeah, they're not getting a lot of context around those questions.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, so maybe you got it done, hattie. Have you
had to do hunter safety yet?

Speaker 8 (05:52):
I already did it yet?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Did you do the virtual or real field day?

Speaker 8 (05:56):
The real field day?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
You did? What happened down there?

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Uh, you kind of got like showed around and then
you practiced different shooting positions on like clay birdies, and
then you practiced using a shotgun, and then you went
through a bunch of like other things like passing through
a barbed wire fence and like practice like.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
When you throw your gun over then climb through.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Was it boring though?

Speaker 8 (06:22):
It was kind of boring and it dragged on, but
it was fun.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
When you when your dad, Uh, Hattie's my neighbor. I'm
buddies with her dad. When your dad learned that you
were coming down here, what did he ask you not
to talk about? Remember? Her dad wanted her not to
talk about Her dad wanted her not to talk about
how he had to curse at or during hunting season
this year.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sorry.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Dad.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
It was the heat of the moment, though, wasn't it. Sorry, Yeah,
your dad got emotional during the heat of the moment.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
I was.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
He was there to get some deer.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Killed, and I was sitting right fifty yards from a
buck and I was like, just out in the open.
Anything could see me, and a deer was fifty yards
behind me.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
And he had some strong words for you.

Speaker 8 (07:10):
Well, he just said get down and yelled at me.
But that was about it.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
He wanted you to keep quiet about that.

Speaker 8 (07:18):
Yeah, he brought it up.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I've been training you guys up. Tell Rosie, tell everybody
where you hunt where the.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Deer are no more?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, and then I'm not I'm a guy and I'm
prying you on it, like more specifically, what what what
river do you hunt on? Now?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
We're nine? Wait where none ya river flows into Business Creek.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's right, Well it's none of your creek falls into
Business River.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
But same thing, haddie, uh.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hattie, you had your school counselor was trying to pry
some info audio.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Yeah, but he was just asking like sounds.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
He's asking a bit more, which.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
I felt, Well, he just like there he asked, Well,
he just like asked a lot of questions, like over
and over again. He asked if we drove up there
and I said yes, And then he asked if we
well on a boat down the river and.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I said no, because we were hunting the park.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Yeah, I drove up. We drove up to Yellowstone and
then I was like, tell me, right in the park
we hunt.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
We hunt right in the park where the rangers don't.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, did you get mate? Was your dad schooled you
on this kind of thing?

Speaker 6 (08:33):
I mean, yeah, you definitely sat us down and we Yeah, we.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Around the campfire. You had a big meeting about this.
Have you guys been pride yet for any location information?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
No.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
I mean like my teacher he was like, he was like,
so where you go hunting? And I was like, oh,
I honestly have no idea because it was my first
year and I actually didn't know where we went. So
that was pretty fair. But then if somebody asked me now,
I'd just be like like, either I don't know, or
we like go somewhere different every year, or I just
do the joke Rosie did I know?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
But I like the one better where you say like
where the deer are, and like where at the deer are?
Where are the deer? Where the deer are?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know?

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Deer camps? Yeah, deer you go to deer camp?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
We went.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
We just drive the highway until we see one of
those signs that shows the deer crossing the road, and
then they were wait.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
There and then when one comes and crosses the road,
we just get that one.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Do you guys feel that? Iron and Mabel? Do you
guys feel that if your dad if your dad quit
hunting right now, would you guys you feel like you'd
keep it going or you feel like you'd quit too.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'd probably keep going. Really, Yeah, there's a lot of
really fun benefits.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
They actually have an opportunity. This weekend. Jennifer and I
went for a walk looking for Pronghorn yesterday, only day
we have for her her tag, and didn't happen. We
didn't see a single one. And uh, but this weekend
seasons still open. I'm gone, but these girls might go
and uh sort of kind of eyed and try to
help their mom get on a prong horn.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Really, Dad Seth's wife Kelsey went out by herself and
got one, and then she had like a Dolly cart,
like the kind of dolly used to carry boxes around
in the store. She was carrying on one of those
tied to a Dolly cart.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
No, she's having a picture, bros. Tied to a Dolly
cart like a stack cardboard box.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Those dollary cards aren't light.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I mean I got to pull it up and take
a look. I'll show you.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Am I allowed?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Tone, Well, I think you gotta be twel Yeah, you
gotta twelve. Yeah, in this state, you gotta be twelve.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
It's prong horn.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
So Corey, how old are your youngsters? I have one
six year old boy and you're taking all this in
I am yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:47):
It's loving hearing you guys and hearing how excited your
kids are to be out there, because I'm pumped. I
got four more years.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I've had. So the way it works is because
we can do youth season. Our youth season just this
year was well, every year, our youth season in Montana
is two days long, depending on the calendar. We had
a couple of years where they kind of lined it
up with some days like when.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Teachers are off beautiful good so they.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Don't have to miss as much school. They still got
to play a little hooky, but not as much hookey
as they would have to otherwise. And then for the
last couple of years though, the youth season lined up
with General so we could just yeah, we could just
roll right into General. And we've had good luck killing
bucks like in the general season because you can work
the kinks out for the two day youth season.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Because youth day youth season is Thursday Friday, and then
General would open on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
But this year they separated again. Now they're separate by
a week, and so we had our youth season this
year was two days long.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
Yeah, you guys were youth hunting during archery season.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, they was so off that it was yeah, we
even saw. Yeah, there was people bow hunting while we
were youth hunting. But we got our crew. We had
six hunters, and how many bucks did we get?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Guys six six six, But one o'clock on day two.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Everybody like, well not know, most people got a buck
at like around that time.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was I got all four of you girls killed
box within like ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I know about those were the biggest ones.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
I got the award for the smallest one.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
You get the smallest bucke, smallest buck. Hey, I got
a question for you, Haddie. You uh went out. So
you got your first buck last year? Okay, you got
your first You got a meal to your buck last year? No, no,
what'd you get last year? Get a white tail buck?

Speaker 8 (12:41):
Right? I got a meal deer?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You got a meal your buck. L Sorry, you got
a meal your buck last year. This year, I want
to get into your head a little bit on this.
This year you went on the first day of the season.
My understanding is you passed up a four.

Speaker 8 (12:52):
Ky mm hmmm because there was a big buck at
the top of the hill and I wanted that one
over at four ki.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
That's what was going on? Okay, the second day you
came in with a porky. Okay, walk me through what
happened there, Like, walk me through your mind, your thought.

Speaker 8 (13:09):
Process the first day that I passed it up, both
the evolution of your thoughts. Oh well, my dad and
I were glassing and we looked and there was like
a huge buck at the top of this spot and
I don't know what's called, but and then I was like,
let's go up there. And he probably like just bedded

(13:31):
down in like that shady ravened kind of spot, you
can say that kind of stuff. And uh so we
were hiking up the hill and my dad tells me
to sit down because he thought he saw it. He
saw a bunch of doughs that we I think we flushed.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I didn't curse at you, no, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
And then and he like came down to me and
was like, there's a there's a buck right there. And
I was like, is it a forky? And he said yeah,
And then it came broadside for like a minute. So
I had like the like I didn't have like five
minutes to think about shooting it or not. I'd like,
right then and there shoot it. And I passed it

(14:14):
up because I felt like really rushed and I didn't
have enough time and I wasn't in that good position,
and I really wanted to get the huge buck we
saw on the top of.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
The totally understood what makes you want to kill a big,
huge buck for the fun of it.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't know, show that counselor they look at that
bad boy. Uh So then the next day you go
out and your thought changed. M last by this point,
last second season.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, And I was like, I wasn't gonna be picky
because then I saw other people shot four kies, so
I would I would have been like fine if I
shot one because other kids got one. So then I like,
I also said, like, first thing in the morning, I'm
not going to be so if I see a buck,
I'll shoot it.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
I think it would be okay. Even if everybody else
killed three pointers and you kill the four ki, it'd
still be.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
Okay as long as you got a deer.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
That's right. Yeah, they all taste the name.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Maybe you got your first buck, yeah, okay, tell us
tell us about that buck. How big was that buck?

Speaker 8 (15:19):
He was a four back four.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Corky perked right up there now, Cory's card is one
where you're a hunt. Yeah, okay, tell what happened there?

Speaker 6 (15:34):
I mean, I don't know, my dad, we like army
crawled on our like, you know, like on our hands
and knees.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
For something must have happened before that. You wouldn't just
be crawling out of camp.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
We like, so we you know, took off from camp
and we were just hiking for I don't know, like ever, yeah,
a lot of time. And then I feel like my
dad he just sees he sees some doughs like on
the top of the ridge kind of up there.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh huh.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
They were like on a ridge a finger that was
coming down into like this valley hilly sort of place.
And so we just like, you know, we're just sitting
down and glassing for a minute. And then we decided, well,
let's like get a little bit closer to the dough
so that if a buck pops up over there, then
we can be ready and be able to be like
set up on on the doe so that if a

(16:27):
buck is with them, then we can get that.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I gotta I gotta bring your sister into this little
bit because you guys are together. Yeah, okay, So so
you two are hunt with your dad. You guys are
hunting as a three pack?

Speaker 8 (16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Have you two at this point because you see these doughs,
but you guys are both packing guns, right?

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Have you guys at this point? How have you guys determined?
Like who's up? Who's first?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
I got the first shot for the first day, and
so we decided that it'd be better if she got
the shot for the second day, because why would you.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Get the first shot for the first day because you've
already hunted and killed it. Huh, this is your idea.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
No, you guys should explain this because people are gonna wonder.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
We also kind of agreed that I have got into
turkeys and more squirrels than her, so she should get
the buck shot. I don't know how that works, but
we decided that. And then like the first day, we
were just kind of all hunting together and you know,
because that's we're all together, and you know, she would
she had she had her shot and.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Stuff, and then she had an opportunity.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
She had an opportunity, and then she was just dry firing.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
A little bit and the buck slipped away.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, the buck, it wasn't spooked by us, but it
just slipped away.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I know when you were dry firing, I mean you
were like you were getting ready for the shot. Yeah,
that's a good trick.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, it's a really good trick when you can afford
just get so shaky. Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
But then second day we decided it would be mine because.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Because you stabbed up abbles and yeah, I guess.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
But yeah we had I had the shot second day, and.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, so we're on our way to try to get
in there near those dos. Oh no, we actually got
on those doughs.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yes, we were on the dose and I was, I
was set up and my sister was like behind a
sage brush bush and and then uh we saw on
the ridge line two bucks, a four by four and
a two by three on the ridge line, and they
were coming down. Well first they were just like looking

(18:38):
around in the valley searching for like danger, So we
just stayed really really still, and then they were just
like they decided, I mean, I guess they decided they
were gonna come down into the valley. So we decided
we should like go around the hill like behind it
so that no, no deer sauce and nothing would be
like spooked. So we were just army crawling, like up

(19:00):
to the next hill or maybe next.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Were you army crawling?

Speaker 8 (19:04):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
I was kind of crawling on my knees because.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, as long as you kept lower than him.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
I mean I am lower than him because I mean
I'm just like smaller human. But I did try to
do on my on my feet and it was just
like like I don't know, I don't know what to
call that crouching.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yeah, it's like it's like walking in a squat position,
which is the classic thing that everybody likes to do
when you tell him we're crawling, now stay low. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
It's harder to because then you just won't stand up,
and it's easier to just stand up.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
I mean I I was still lower.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Than my dad's So did you have to watch out
for cactus?

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yes, Oh it's lot.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
It's bad. There's a lot of cactuses.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That part of the park full cactus. Okay, so go on.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
So we were army crawling for a and then we
like kind of came up around like a hill and
there was like sagebrush around us. My dad tried to
help me get some grass out of the way of
my like, you know.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
My shooting your shooting lane, yeah, my.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Shooting lane, and we were both set up. I was
like up a little bit higher on the hill, my
sister was, my dad was between us, and then my
sister was a little bit lower on the hill, and
there was like a road going by us, like on
the other side of the hill. And then you know,
we're just washing the bucks. I could not find the

(20:35):
bucks anywhere because my dad said, oh, they're at the
tip of the sage brush, and I was like, well,
there's a lot of sagebrush here. I didn't say this,
but I was like, there's a lot of sage brush here.
I have no idea what sage brush you're talking about.
And then finally he had to just look into my
gun for me find them, and then hold the gun
for me so I could get behind him. Yeah, and

(20:57):
my sister had actually called the bigger buck, which was
the four by four, But because I guess the bigger
buck had been doing a lot more broadside, like standing broadside,
a lot more than the two by three, my sister,
because she's so nice, decided to give me the bigger one,
because I was like, let's just get they run away,
I'll feel even worse. And then my so I just

(21:20):
I was, you know, set up on the bigger one
and on the road beside us, like I don't know,
I guess a group of cows had been like walking
and yeah, and they were like going over the hill.
But then they were all staring at us the entire
and I was so scared that the bucks were gonna

(21:41):
look at the cows and then try and look at us.
And oh that was like the cows were just staring
at us the entire time. But then it was, I
guess easy to forget about them because then just like
looking at the bucks.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
But then I, you know, like took my shot, and
I think I shot my dad. I moved away from
the scope like after I shot, so I had no
idea where my buck was because I still didn't know
where on the hillside my buck actually was. I just
had no I knew that in the scope that was
my buck. So I had shot him and I shot

(22:17):
him dead, and then he just he rolled down the
hill somewhere. We actually did have a little bit of
a hard time finding him later, but like maybe five
seconds after my shot in a shot. Her shot was
a little bit low because my dad's range finder had
lost all of its battery.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Sour.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
But yeah, like we shot like two seconds after each other. Yeah,
and then maybe like maybe two minutes later, I think
I shot again to shot to shoot hers, and I
got the glory of watching hers fall down the hill.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Very kids are laughing too, right, Yeah. Do you guys,
when you're telling stories, when the gun goes off, you
go bouch likes, No, you know about that?

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, we knew that.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
If you're a Latvian and a Laban hunting story, a
gun doesn't go bang or it goes bouch.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
I mean my dad. My dad has that written on
his orange.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
A lot of laughs about that, bouch.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah, but I guess I have never said that in
a story.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Can you start? Please?

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Wait?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
What? Oh?

Speaker 8 (23:32):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (23:34):
But yeah, I shot and then we just you know,
stood there for a minute. My dad like slapped us
on the back a lot, because kind of what he
does with animals.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
And then.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
I don't know, we got up and got all our stuff.
We had actually left our backpacks kind of back there
like where we had been set up on the dose.
So we had to go back and get those because
you know, army crawling is kind of hard with also
like a big backpipe on, and my backpack is blue,
which I'm pretty sure is a color that the deer
can see, and it's like a bright blue, so you know,
I left that behind. Yeah, but then we went and

(24:10):
grabbed those, and then we're just walking up the hill
to find our bucks. As was found pretty easily because
you know, like me and my dad both saw that
one fall down, but ours mine was a little bit
higher up, so I had to look for that one
a little bit. But yeah, we we found him in
the end, and then we like butchered him and we're.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Gonna come back. We're gonna come back to the butchm Park,
trust me. Okay, Rosie, can we move in? You know
we've been teasing rosiebout set up, set up, Boddy, so
you buy your mic. Okay, we've been teasing Rosie. We
periodically remember this and then teaser about it for a
few days. When she was real little.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Oh no no, no, no no no no no no no.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
When she was real little, we were out squirrel hunting
and uh and uh, and all of a sudden, I
look and she is little oh three, yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, better include that part in the store.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
And she's back there.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
You weren't. You weren't carrying it.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
She was just combing the cruising along behind us, you know.
And we now and then look see what happened during
she's back to going spitting spitting something now. And she
had thought she had found some deer ship and thought
it was like a little chocolate No.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
I thought that was only a jump that happened in
real life. Yeah, that's an old guy. She thought.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
She thought it was like a little chocolate nugget or
something on the ground. They were like, what happened Rosie?
What is that she was she had found that deer
poot was like someone dropped her candy dropped there raising it.
So never remember that we teased Rosie about it. So Rose,
this is your second buck, right yep? Okay? And then

(25:50):
you got your first buck last year, but not during
youth season. What happened during youth season.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Happened?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Oh okay. So jimmy my older brother, had shot a
doe and my dad Pinky promised me that the next
deer that we got in this mystery place that we
were hunting would be mine the next year that we
saw like the next year that we could get it's mine.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And there's that was the Rannella family's last meal deer dough.
We were now or on a more there's a moratorium
on meal der doe killing in the Renella household.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
So after Jimmy shot his dough, we went and started
looking and we got down in this little area to
glass and there was quite a bit of fossils in
this area, and I was I was a little more
interested in the fossils than the deer.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And I was very pissed.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
He was not happy with me.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Hespective on this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, the fossils were in the worst skylit part of
the day, so I'm trying to train them to when
you get to a crest, we slip over very quickly
over the top nestle into some brush and glass. So
I'm like, you know, okay, I'm gonna go over night

(27:14):
over the top nestle into some brush. And these two
get right up on the skyline and then low the
behold fossils. So we found I get down, I'm like
a weird I did the whole thing, yell and whisper.
We heard hot we.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Right, yeah, and I said he he was like, okay, well,
if there's a do that comes by to your fall,
I'm not going to feel sorry for you like you can.
He's like, fine, you know, go look at the fossils.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Because I had seen this one in particular, fossil that
I didn't I stupidly didn't.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Pick up, and then I wanted to find it again.
But right as me and my brother are on the skyline.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Looking for fossils, a humongous for or by for pops
right up in this little like goalie staring.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
At your like like how many yards away?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Like a hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
It is staring at.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
You so big, and well, you know, the whole thing
happens when my dad like get over here. So we
get set up on it, and he's already gone by
that point. He was not having any of it.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
And then my dad's all mad and I'm like, well,
we can go find it again, and he's like, we're
not going to find that thing again.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
So we start hiking up the little we started tracking it.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Yes, we started tracking it, and in front of us
probably like how many yards then like three three hundred
yards maybe, No, it's just like, oh, three I.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Mean he just got up at our feet.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well, yeah, we followed him.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I thought it was pretty far away and when he
jumped up.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
And.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, I thought he was far away.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
No, he was like under us.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Well he like.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Popped out of nowhere, and my brother just takes out
his rifle and shoots him, and broadside or anything. He
just like shot him in the neck and got him.
And I was not happy. I I was not happy
with my dad. I was giving everybody the silent treatment
because that big buck was supposed to be mine. So

(29:18):
I was waiting in this little on this little side
of a little mountain, and while they tried to find
this deer. Thirty minutes later, they're like, we cannot find it.
We need your help. We're gonna go look. So we
blood trail it and we find it and it's it's
dead and it's really big. And I am still not
very happy.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
But yeah, so I always say it's not you your
season until someone cries, hey, that is not.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
And so yeah, he got that, and then I learned
to be happy for him because he was really happy
it was he got a really nice buck. Then I
ended up getting one. I don't even know where I
ended up getting one. But that place was called Our.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Friends Our Friends Friends Ranch.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, I got a nice three by three there.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
But then this year came around.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Am I supposed to tell the story of this year.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I'll see it up a little bit. We went up,
we got to our looking nob. No, I'm just setting
setting scene, you can tell. We got to our looking knob.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
And and we see these two Wait, where are we
starting from in this story?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Like after I spotted the party meadow?

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Oh okay, okay. So we had been chasing these two
deer and we got up on a skyline and they
were there, but they were like far away. I wasn't
zoomed in. I was not ready to shoot it at all.
So they ended up running away. And then all of
a sudden, deer started coming out of nowhere.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
You know what we now know?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You know what spooked them? What was? Oh?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Tell us girls shooting shooting scared.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
And they didn't even know where shots came from. We
were like, we're watching them, and all a sudden, you
and they just got up, like the does got up
and were looking over and they just started milling around
and milled off. Its just it was enough to Yeah,
they were I mean I mean she got up and
she just like it was it was a ricochet sound,

(31:20):
and she just got uneasy and want to leave you.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
But yeah, so I was I had one of the
bucks in my scope, but like I wasn't zoomed in.
I just wasn't ready. Then they got spooked and deer
were coming out of nowhere. But they were everywhere like
there was bucks just like almost seemed like they were
running out of the hills. Yeah, there's so many of them,
and they all ran into this one little meadow that
we called the party meadow because all the big bucks
were having a party there. So we end up starting

(31:49):
to follow this little We go on the side of
this little mountain. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
What we watched four bucks okay, name was the ones name?

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Okay one one of the ones name was Houdini, And
there was.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Three bucks that we didn't name, and we watched them
until they bed down.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Okay, so there's a bunch of us.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Did what when they batted down? And what did we do?
We walked, well, no, not before we what we identified
where what our shooting perch was going.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Okay, yeah, so we we found we from this ridgeline.
We found a good place to get set up on
that we.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Knew where we had three bucks bedded, and we knew
what our our shooting perch was, right, and we even
like dropped little pins on the map. We think they're there.
We're trying to get here. Yeah, So and then we
started walking.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Now we start walking on this little side of the
mountain where they can't where the deer can't see us,
and I end up finding in deer shed and we
see this really really old dough just like betted down
in this nice little shady area.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Don't tell everybody what we called her. Oh yeah, you
didn't tell anybody, I know, but.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
I almost did. Well I didn't almost, I didn't almost,
but like yeah, so we see this really old dough
and we're like worried because we need to get We
need to like kind of go near her to get
to where we're trying to go. But we're worried that
she's going to scare the deer in the party meadow,

(33:29):
so we like take our chances. We're like, well, it's
gonna get hot, so we should probably get going over
to these deer, So we take our chances. She does
end up spooking and then she ends up spooking another
buck that we didn't even know about. But he was
gone so fast, like.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
They didn't blow through. They didn't they go.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Through where we were trying to get.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
They didn't spook our bucks.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
So we find our little perch and army crawl over
to well it wasn't even army crawl because we were
so close to them.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
We had to snakes.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yes, we had to be very very very careful. We
had to be very very careful because they I think
it's really easy for them to spook. And so we're
in this little part where I don't know. Somehow my
dad sees a bunch of antlers poking up, but I
do not see those, so I take it. Takes a

(34:19):
little time to find them, but they're all bedded down,
and I'm lined up on the biggest one because you know,
why just take this moment when you can up the
big one and the other one that I'm not another
nice one stands up and I'm not even on him.
So I get on him and I cannot see his
shoulder blade because of the glare in the sun.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I want to clarify this point too. Okay, we're talking.
I'm saying now, remember where you're gonna shoot it. I said,
you got to see that, you know, you see the
back of the shoulder, that little crease, so right in
that crease, halfway up and down, And when the deer
stands up, there's nothing in front of it. But she's saying,
I can't see it shoulder, So I can't figure out
what she must be looking at, like she sees some

(35:04):
other deer. But I realized, tell what you meant when
you said you can't see its.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Shoulder, Like there was a glare in the sun where
the whole deer looked like this dark gray color. So
I couldn't like see it.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
You couldn't see the actual please, So.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
I was like.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
My dad was like, just like try your best. Just
think about, like, think about where you're gonna need to
shoot it. So I took my best guess, and I
ended up shooting it in the right place.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We'll tell him what happened to it, what was missing
out of it? It's heart, Yeah, I believe the bottom
right off the heart nice.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
So yeah, And we waited a little bit ate, some
lunch got over there, and we couldn't find him for
about like five minutes, and my dad was making me
feel very doubtful about finding him. I was like, are
we gonna find He.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was just too many, it's too many questions.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Hey, no, but you did say that. You can't deny
that I did.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But I knew it was in there somewhere, but I
couldn't figure out where it was. So I just like,
just give me a second. And it was laying right there,
tall sage brush.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Our friend showed us where like he found the deer,
Jeremy Romero. Yeah, and we all went over there and
he was actually like bigger than we thought he was.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, I was telling Rosie. Normally they get small when
you find him. You never find a bucket. He's bigger.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
He thought he was ground shrinkage.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, we had ground growage.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
He did not look that big from when I was
lined up on him, but he was. He's actually like
a really nice three by three.

Speaker 8 (36:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Great. Now, Butchering, what you guys take on butcher And
you want to start out just your general impressions of Butchering.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I personally really love Butchering. I find it very satisfied.

Speaker 7 (36:50):
You got to get on the mic.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Sorry, very like order a lot orderly and satisfying to
just get it all chopped up and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You appreciate you appreciate the orderly in this up. Help
me understand what you mean with orderly.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
I don't know, it's just very like I personally find
skinning animals very very satisfying, which is probably pretty weird.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
But do you do you appreciate that there's like step one,
step two, step three. Is that that's orderly?

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yeah, there's like the things you do and then it
like just all kind of falls into place for the
end result.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Do you enjoy cooking it?

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Cooking really fun.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
So you like that too?

Speaker 7 (37:33):
Yeah? Have you cooked any any meat?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (37:36):
Yeah? Yeah when I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh yeah, you guys help out in the kitchen, but.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Not when he's here. He's our personal chef. When he's home,
he can do it all.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Mabel, what did you think about that? Was this your
first butchering job?

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Yes, I mean other than kind of like Scuross, But
I do not like butchering even a little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
You don't like you know, I don't like this.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Mells.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
We're getting dirty.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
It's like if you like, once you get blood on
your hands, everything sticks to your hands and then like
a smell of the stomach and then yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:15):
Did you notice that your farts smell like the guts? Afterwards?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I mean I feel like I had like called maybe.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
I don't know, like I don't I don't normally try
to smell my farts, but I guess it.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
Happens on accident.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
I mean, yeah, but I don't like butchering, especially like
the stomach, and that it smells really really bad.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
When she gets done. Before she leaves, she needs to
cut the stomach open. Yes, which is the boringest stomach
in the world. She thinks there's gonna be something in there,
like a like a mouse or something. It's just chewed
up grass.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Well, I don't think that there's gonna be something in there.
I just like I want to think that there's also
how do you have some stuff to finish off a
dear story too?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh we'll get Yeah, we're getting there where we leave
it with your dear story?

Speaker 8 (39:07):
After my dad told me to get down from the
top of the hill.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh, we didn't finish the getting it deer. No, ok,
maybe finished telling us about how you don't like it. Well,
I realized we missed the end of the deer story
the job. Thanks for reminding me you don't want nothing
to do.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
I mean, I like, it's like cool because I know that,
like I'm gonna eat it, and it like tastes really
good when I ate it, of course, but like it
it's never been like the thing. And then when you're
carrying it back, like there's just like the juice everywhere,
and like there's just like such juices everywhere you look,

(39:45):
except for the fact that the one thing that I
really liked about butchering is I brought up the idea
of hot buttered buck nuts and bringing those back to camp,
which was still that was the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
What I recommend that as you as to get older,
you and your sister continue to hunt together because you're
gonna have a hell of a time with the butchering.
But if she likes but yeah, it's like Jack Spratt
would eat no fat, his wife would eat no lean.
So someday make a poem like that about you, and I.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Know, yeah, probably you're a good leg holder.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
Like I don't really care, but like I don't like
want to like stick my hands in its guts. I
don't like that I get your pretty close dirty Hey, okay,
you put you actually put blood on my vants.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Maybe you'll grow into it, maybe you won't. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's good though. Okay, so hattie, I'm sorry. We didn't
get to the we didn't get to I don't know
what that was bad hosting. We didn't we didn't get
to the buck. Okay, so there we are. Your dad's
screaming and yelling at you.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
It was like, okay, but by the way, sorry for
sorry dad for bringing for Steve bringing that up. But
after he did that, he told me to get down
and then he started like glassing and trying to find it.
And then he said get over here, and then he

(41:07):
found it. So he was like, take your backpack off
and put it in this spot and carry the tripod.
So and he was like, we're gonna get to the
top of that hill and you're gonna army crawl all
the way up there. So we did, and then he
told me to set up the tripod. So I set
up the tripod and then he was like glassing it

(41:29):
trying to find it from there, and he was like,
we're busted. It sees us and I was like, where
is it?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I don't see it.

Speaker 8 (41:36):
And then that went on for probably like six minutes
of me not being able to find my buck. When
I was staring right at us like one hundred yards
not bad, okay.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
And.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Then I like find it. And then I was watching
it for a while and I didn't see it move,
but my dad didn't, and it moved broadside because it
like saw us move, so it was like, oh, I'm
out of here.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Got it?

Speaker 8 (42:07):
So then he went up onto this like hill kind
of spot and went broadside, and my dad told me
he stood up, and I was like where, I don't
see it, And then I found his like white nose
and then went off of that and just moved and
right where I lined up his foot, I found his
foot and went up, and right as I got on
the top of his shoulder, I shot him. And I

(42:29):
thought he like ran forward, because that's what my last
buck did. He ran forward, but he actually felt ran
backwards and fell into this like ravine. So it took
us ten minutes to find him because he all was
like clumped up in like a doughnut.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
He was he was hidden away in there.

Speaker 8 (42:46):
Yeah, So my dad thought he was a rock for
a while until he like took a second look when
he went back around and then pulled him out, and
I was like, he's a lot smaller than.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
What he looked like in the scope ground shrinkage.

Speaker 8 (42:59):
Yeah, and then he pulled and then my dad pulled
him to this like shade spot cut him up my
dad's knife.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Did you help cut him up?

Speaker 8 (43:09):
I helped the leg my dad.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
But my dad didn't want me to cut myself with
his knife because they're really sharp, so he let me
cut open like the bladder and like the liver and
stuff and look at the heart and all that.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So do you like the butcher and process? Uh?

Speaker 8 (43:27):
Yeah, next year he said I could help him with it.
So then I just learned how to do it myself.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
So when you go hot with your friends, you could
be the person the butchers. Mm hmm, got it. And
then what about did you carry some in your pack?

Speaker 8 (43:43):
Yeah? This time I was actually able to carry a
lot because I got an actual backpack. And last year
I was using like a school backpack and it was
an actual backpack, and like this was an actual hunting
backpack and I was able to carr a lot more,
which for my dad, he said it felt a lot
better on his back, but it.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Was did you take some of the weight?

Speaker 8 (44:06):
Yeah? Sure, And then like you put it on my
back and I almost fell backwards because I wasn't ready
for how heavy it was going to be, and then
he had to catch me. But then I was fine.
And when I took it off, I felt like a fleather,
like a feather. Oh when you got When I got
back to camp, I felt like a feather.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
When I was packing my dear it, my neck and
shoulders hurt so bad like it, and we were.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like a mile so we didn't We didn't do your
waist belt quite right either. Yeah, so all that weight
was on your on your shoulders.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
How many legs did you pack out? Rosie?

Speaker 5 (44:44):
I packed out everybody's.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
She carried all the gear in the head and we
carried everything else.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
The head was surprisingly heavier than I thought it was, well,
especially you know, we packed him out with part of
the neck tach that we could take them.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
In and get them tested. And those heads get real
heavy when you're packing them out like that.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
You guys, has everybody here done the have you guys
all had did you ever come to do the trivia show.
Now you never did. Okay, so these guys of Aina,
Mabel and Rosemary, you have to come. We're gonna do
some more soon. Have all done?

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Have all?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
If you listen to our Kids Trivia Show, our kids podcast,
you guys have met you listeners have met Aa, Mabel, Rosemary,
you haven't met Hattie. But these guys are all contenders
on Kids Trivia, which is part of our Kids Trivia Podcast.
We're gonna be let me pull this up. When we

(45:42):
started the Kids Show, we always said, hey, we got
to see how it does. We know we're gonna make more.
We're gonna make more of the Kids Podcast. Season two
of the Kids Show. Season two of the Kids Podcast
We're not done with you guys yet. You got more questions?
Season two of the Kids Podcast launches Monday, November TWI
here's deal. It's on its own podcast feed. Before when

(46:03):
we did the Kids Podcast, the Kids Podcast was always
put into the Meat Eater podcast feed. It's gonna live
on its own feed going forward, we'll probably do one
or I don't know, maybe one on the regular feed.
I don't know. So November eighteen, so.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
To find it, you just searched kids trivia.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Well, I'll get to that in a minute. What is
the feed called. That's a good question, you honest me
Eater Kids Podcast, good question if you'd like to listen
to this, if you're listening right now, on the day
this episode dropped, November eighteen, we just launched the season
two trailer and we posted season one so so uh,

(46:42):
we got a season two trailer. And also we're moving
episodes one to five over to the kids podcast feed.
So now that we're getting serious about the kids podcast,
it's gonna have its own feed. We're gonna move episodes
one to five on that feed and start adding to them.
Every week. We'll have a new drop of a new
kid's episode going forward for five weeks. It'll run through

(47:03):
December twenty, third day before Christmas. So we're kind of
lining it up so when your kids are home for
the holidays, whatever, you got the podcast feed, and then
the next time we drop more will drop it off,
maybe the beginning of summer break or however.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
We do it.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
We also got a new Kids Podcast t shirt available
in the Meat Eater store right now. Now, I got
a new line of question for each of you we're
gonna go back to Aina and then we'll see what
kind of questions. Corey might have some questions because as
a person who's got kids coming up, he might have
some questions. But here's my question for Aina, what is

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the one piece of advice you would give to moms
or dads whoever taking kids out for their first hunts.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
I would probably just say make it fun, like, don't
try to push too much. It's good when you have it,
like when you have the capability to be pushed, but
if you're taking like a nine year old out and
they're just hunting with you or something, and they're like, oh,
I'm so tired. And if they're like younger than kids,
you're like us, who we can be pushed. We're old

(48:09):
enough to be pushed, but it gets like un fun
where then you're like, oh, I don't want to go
hunting because I know it's gonna get so so hard
that it's not going to be fun anymore.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
M that's fine. I asked you. I don't agree. I
don't agree. So that's your opinion. I asked you for
your opinion that you have it. I bet you got pushed.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Oh yeah, but it makes it makes you a better
person and a better hunter.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Uh huh huh. But your piece of advice is don't
you really get pushed a lot? Yes, she just gave
him a look.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
One day we had it where Aina was gonna hunt
with a different Aina and Mabel, we're gonna split up.
Aiah was gonna hunt with someone different. She wanted to
know if they walked faster than her dad, and she's
glad to hear that they did not walk faster.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Long enough lugs where I can keep up with him.
But if you go faster than him, I'm him. I'm
gonna be left in the dust.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
But he's one of the faster walkers I hang out with.
Oh yeah, so you're you're training at top level. Yes, Mabel.
Piece of advice for mom's dads taking kids hunting, I.

Speaker 8 (49:10):
Mean, like.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
Like honestly, like make sure that like not that I
don't want to go hunting. I love hunting, but like
make sure your kid like really really wants to go,
because if they don't want to go, and then you
think that they do, and then you push them to
go like every single time, then they're gonna not want
to hunt at all. You think that, Yeah, I mean
that happened with like my like my cousin, like his dad.

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People at him duck hunt like all the time, and
he didn't like it because of I think the cold.
But then like now he doesn't like doing it at
all because he was like pushed.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
To do it too much. I mean, I love hunting.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
I love that my dad pushes me because otherwise I
probably wouldn't do it. I'd like in the morning when
he wakes me up, I'd be like, I don't want
to go, but that because he pushes me, like he
like makes me like want to go. And then I realized,
like how fun it is when I'm out there. But like,
like make sure they do have interest in it, because
otherwise they'll just like be pushed onto it all the

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time and then they don't want they don't want to
do it at all.

Speaker 9 (50:12):
That's something I'm really paranoid about, is overdoing it, over
pushing them.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I disagree with WHOA, I disagree that's your opinion. I'm
glad you have it. I just don't think it's true.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
Well you've had good luck. Well it's still early, but
with your three kids, they've accepted pushing very well. But
in my universe. I just know too many that pushed
and it wound up not working out. Really, yeah, and
it's sad.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Because I feel just plug your ears, Rosie. I'm not
like at a certain age, I'm not interested. I'm not
terribly interested in what they want to do. No, I
mean it's true. Well, like we'll say we're gonna go
camping this weekend. Inevitably, inevitably, this is gonna be some

(51:10):
Oh I can't. I didn't want to. I was supposed to.
I was gonna all right, or like it's just we
don't need of us cares. Speaking me and my wife,
you know, like need of us cares. We're going camp
this weekend, go camping, come home. Every had a great time.
They don't want to leave so much fun. They're they're
exhausted from physical activity. Right. And if we had said, like,

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you know, to little kids, do you want to go camping? Like,
oh no, because I was gonna go to Billy's house
and be like, Okay, I guess we'll cancel that plan,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (51:41):
Oh yeah, if I were to ask my kid, what
do you want to do this weekend? You'll say, I
don't eat fun dip and stare at my tablet.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, exactly, so we're doing that. Yeah, we just haven't.
I know it changes later, but early on we just
we kind of like we made a plan and that
was the plan.

Speaker 9 (51:55):
And you're able to mold them still.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a point at which I agree. I'm
sure it's true, and I there's a point at which agree,
But I think that I see people too often. I
don't know, like like cave, it's hard to get every
out the door. I agree with that, it's hard to
get every out the door. It's a lot of clothes,
it's a lot of gear, it's a lot of complaining.

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You gotta have just like you gotta be like the
force of a tornado and just be like, dude, we're going.
We're getting stuff. Maybe it's not perfect, but we're gonna
get enough stuff packed and we're going at a point.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Yeah, No, I think there it's a balance, right, because
that depending on what scale you're using, what you're describing
might only be a three in someone's version of how
much you pushed or didn't push, right, but maybe you
escalate that to a seven, and then all of a
sudden they're just like, you know what really I'm done camping, bro.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, yeah, we're not like dragging them out. We're not
like dragging them out in and loading them in the cot.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
And you're like, hey, kids, you ever heard of winter camping?
It's negative ten. It's still almost as fun but cold.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah, I got you, hattie advice, and I might disagree
with you. Well, what advice you have for moms and
dads who want to take the kids out hunting? From
a kid's perspective? Seasoned the kid?

Speaker 8 (53:22):
Okay, if your kid wants to take a break, just
take like a five minute break and let them, I
don't know, catch themselves instead of just saying no, we're
gonna hike one mile and then you can take your
disagree with you and also bring more food than you
think you will.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
That I agree with everything you just said.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I don't think and I'm speaking of kids general. I
don't think kids have a great sense of when it's
time to take a break.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Well, also miss their whole entire Okay, I guess Yeah,
I've been hiking for my whole life. But you're like
fifty years old, you I should be.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I'm on the downward slide.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Yeah, but think about this. You've been doing this your
whole entire livingness of fifty years. So it's different when
you're like a little kid.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
No, you guys want to take breaks in the dumbest places.
We'll be down in some little ditch bottom where you
can't see a single thing. Let's have a break. Like,
let's have a break while we're up looking at fresh ground.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Not true.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Also, don't push too much.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I'll be like, we canna have a break. See that
spot up there. We get to that spot, we're gonna
nestle in and we'll have a break.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
That's that.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Then that thought likes to take breaks in the right.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
That you're talking out there, and then we can take
a break. That certain spot that you see is like
five miles away, and you're like, you're like, oh, roum
is there.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
No, we're not.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
We're not almost there.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, you got your kids and everything that's happened with
you kids, you'll appreciate this someday. They've trained you like,
this whole thing with you guys in the water is
out of control.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Well, how don't we saved that? For what I'm what
my advice is, Yah, I would like to talk, No.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Kidd, I mean, just think about it. It sounds like
a Roidney dangerfield thing. But like when I was a kid,
no kid had a water bottle.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
No gotta save this from when I'm talking about like
what like advice.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Okay, all right, but uh, I'll get to your advice
one second. I want to go back to this. The
food thing I think is is I I agree hundred percent.
I agree with breaks, but I think you guys don't
have a well timed sense of when to take them.
The food thing, You're exactly right, put way more food
in your pack than you would ever think anyone could

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possibly eat, end of a greater variety, right you guys
hearing me, Yes, huge variety, huge quantity.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
But don't worry about the water.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
I think.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
I think about like the kid thing where the kids
have like a bad sense of when to take a break.
It's like, but if we get up to a good
spot where we could take a break and it'd be
like a good spot, then my dad is like, oh,
let's take a break, instead of me saying I want
to take a break here, It's like we only like
take breaks if we wounded the bad parts because we

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like are tired down there for like some odd really bad.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
He wants taking a break.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
Yeah, like yeah, but like I'm.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Yeah, like when we're in a good spot to take
a break, like I would say take a break, but
my dad's like he like knows when we're like about
to say let's take a break. And then he's like,
all right, well, like you see that perfect spot up there,
we'll take a break up there before us saying it.
So it's like, yeah, so we're not.

Speaker 8 (56:53):
Yeah, I agree with your They don't choose the right
time to take a break, Like you'll be in the
middle of a and they'll want to take a break.
But I feel like it's also depending on your age,
Like you could be yeah, like fifteen years old and
no one to take a break because you've been hunting
for like five years. Yeah, so you'd understand like a

(57:14):
sense of when to But like when you're when it's
like six thirty in the morning and you're hiking up
this gigantic hill when it's pitch dark out, you don't
don't really know where you are and it's six thirty
in the morning, so you don't want to take a break.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
But everybody else knows you got to get somewhere yeah,
but I'm not opposed breaks because the best part of
my youth hunt this season. I was with Rosie and
her little brother Matthew, and we got to be noon
and we were just staying out. We weren't going back.
We're just you know, everybody stayed had the plan to
stay out and hunt all day until dark. So it

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was noon and Rosie laid on my left shoulder and
Maddie was laid on my right shoulder and they fell
asleep and they didn't wake up till two. And I'm
used to taken like I'll take a power nap with
the best of them, but I'm not used to the
two hour power nap. But that was very relaxing for me.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
No, it was. It was almost three hours because we
munch about at like eleven thirty and then woke up
at like two.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
So yep. And you know, we had a magic We
had a magic secret bullet in our packs. We brought
a couple of mini cans a pop soda so after
so after naptime, you could bust out one of them
cans a pop and that just gets you gets you
ready to rock. All right, Rose, what's your Rosemary? Hit
me with your advice to moms and dads taking their

(58:36):
kids hunt. And then then we're gonna see what Corey's
gonna have some questions for you guys. I'm guessing because.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
He's got a kid coming up, all right, So just
like like what I just said, like make it fun,
Like I know this ruined my chance to get a
big deer, but maybe maybe do a little like like
not taking like a break, like sitting down, and like
maybe going in just like looking for like bugs or

(59:04):
something like anything like fun to get their minds off
of like hiking for a little bit. And then also
my dad definitely disagrees with this, But drink water. I
mean I don't even see him drinking water anymore, and
yet he's almost against it.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Well, you've been to where he grew up, right, you've
been there, right all water, Yeah, it's all water, and
it's flat, and so it's not anywhere near the same
thing as to where you're growing up. And why you
had required, you know, to be packing around water and
drinking water because he could he literally just like he
just diverted and then he would just scoop his hand

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up into the lake and drink.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I know, but like if I go to school and
I'm like, I'm gonna get a water bottle. He's like, Hey,
you don't need water bottle. You're fine. Back in my
day in the fifties, we didn't have water bottles.

Speaker 9 (59:57):
My kid's got like ten water bottles. Oh, it's insane.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
No whoever had the idea that it improves cognitive function
to be hydrated.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It's very very Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Being hydrated actually helps you live, So it helps if
you're taking your kids out, make sure you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Bring lots of water, lots of food, and just like
take like not breaks, like sitting down breaks, but like
breaks to just do get your mind off of, like hiking,
and then get back to it. And I almost think
that your kids will do a lot better if they've
had like a little mind refresh.

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
One time, I have packed a school bag full of
I don't know what kind of books and puzzles and
games and coloring pencils, and we went down into a
radene under a shade tree where you couldn't see more
than ten yards in any direction, and we spent an
hour there just coloring, and then we climbed out of
there and lo and behold, there was some pronghorn up
on the flat that we were about to hunt. So

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the timing was perfect.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Can I add something to mind, please, because I feel
like the pushing it's really good, because like, you don't
love hiking when you're six ' five, like nine years old.
It's not the best thing in the world. Yeah, but
it makes you, I like, a better hunter. I mean
obviously it makes you like it pushes you for like
everything in life. But then also it makes sometimes it's

(01:01:22):
not fun, so taking the correct breaks, like not too many,
because then it's like obviously you're caving in is like
a not like just letting your child do whatever they want,
but then not pushing so hard. Warre It's like, I
never want to come out here and do this ever
ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
What do you guys think about this? Idea?

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Wait? Wait, I got one thing do so somebody very
wise told me this. She is a very athletic woman.
She is our family friend, and I was running the
rut with her and she we were like, me and
my friend were like, this is not fun. We're like
so tired, and she's like, it's secondary fun. So when

(01:01:58):
you are out hiking, it may not be fun in
the moment, but later you're like that was really fun.
I did really cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
So yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
And you'll like the fact that you just pushed yourself
really hard and you just did a bunch of it,
like you went all that way and you know, you're
not thinking about it because you're like, oh my gosh,
my leg hurt. My leg's hurt. But then when you
get back to camp, you're like, oh, yeah, I walked
like four miles or something.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
And you're like maybe, but like you got pushed, you
pushed yourself, and you're like, it's like secondary fun even
though you hated.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
It in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Let me hit you guys with an idea. What if
a parent was thinking to themselves, well, I'm gonna go
for broke. I'm gonna I'm gonna either have a super
a kid that's obsessed with hunting and fishing, or I'm
gonna burn them out and they never want to go again.
And you're like, I don't care about the middle ground,
So I'm gonna push as hard as I can push.

(01:02:51):
I might get a die hard hunter and angler, or
I might get someone who never wants to go again.
I know I won't land in the middle. Is that
a good approach? Or a bad approach and just push
it hard.

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
Bad bad, bad, that's bad.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
I'm listening to them. I want to know, like the
what's the favorite part about hunting in general? You guys
can look it back at our recent trip and say, oh,
this was a real highlight and this is why I
like doing this trip and going again, or just generally
why you guys like to go out hunting.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Well, I feel like when I'm hunting, it's I mean,
I've always like been I guess, like push to go
do things, but like not in a bad way. Like
my dad gives me the option, like if I say
I don't want to go, he's not gonna meet Sometimes
he's not going to force me to go. But I

(01:03:47):
feel like what I really like about hunting is that
even if it's like a little sad that like killing things,
but like in the end, you're like feeding your family
and it's just like really rewarding.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Yes, I agree with that a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Yeah, it's like it's rewarding to like your like I guess,
emotional state, like your ego that like I went out
and I killed the animal, and I'm like feeding the people,
like I guess my family and and then I like
hiked all this way, and I like carried meat, and
I like did all the steps and now I'm happy

(01:04:24):
that I did it all. And it's like just nice
to think about.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
I guess what I think about is uh, that you're
spending time with like your parent that way with you
Like I went with my dad and I liked spending
time with him and killing an animal with him, and
like being able to feed my family also while spending

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time and having like and creating memories.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It's great.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
Also just like being in the outdoors with like when
you go back to camp, there's you're not gonna go
on your phone and you're not going to do this,
like you're just going to be in the moment more
of and thinking about what you're doing then and not
like what's gonna happen or what you did, and you
just kind of get to be in the moment of I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:05:14):
In the outdoors right now.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
I get to spend time with my family, I get
to put food on the table. I get to push
myself to be like a better person and like a
stronger hunter and a better hunter, and just there's so
many like positives. I feel like the hunting, especially after
you've done the hunt itself.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Oh great, thank you, Corey.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
You got more questions, man, well, I had maybe some
more technical gear questions.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Oh it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
That's a great subject.

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
Obviously, you can't kill a deer with mind bullets, so
I'm curious what caliber you guys are all.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
Using, uh, six five cream more same okay.

Speaker 9 (01:05:50):
And maybe those sig crosses that have like the nice
foldable stock. Yeah, easier to carry around.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
You're shooting a six five creed More, aren't you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I think so.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Yeah, it's a tree more something.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Oh wait, I have one more piece of advice too.
Tell your kids not to be afraid to shoot a
gun because of the recoil. Because most of the time
when you're hunting as a little kid, you're not gonna
get a big, heavy duty gun. It's gonna blow your
shoulder off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Like, well, kids also shoot suppressed rifles.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Yeah, I was really scared, like for my turkeys, not
necessarily for my deer this year. I was last year. Like,
it's always the kick that I just get scared about.
I'm just scared that's gonna like hurt my shoulder. But
I think you should just tell your kids that, Like
would you rather be scared to pull a trigger because
you're word your shoulder is gonna get a little bruise
on it, or like shoot an animal, you know, like

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just tell them to that it's like okay and that
doesn't actually hurt. And then maybe like maybe like yeah,
maybe like do it and show them that it doesn't
actually hurt, like like pull it once on you and
say that like it doesn't hurt, like I'm okay, or don't.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
Bring us The first thing is in like oh here's
a gun, go shoot it, but make sure but like
watch out, he's got a bunch of recoil, Like, oh,
here's a gun.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Like I hope you have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
That's something in your head.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
That's something my older brother would always do to me.
He'd be like, oh, Rosie, do gun's got a lot
of kick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And I was well, because he was jealous, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
But I was always I was always scared of the
kick anyway. And he'd be like, he'd be like that
gun's got a lot of kick.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
I'd be like, well, I think that could be an
example of pushing too hard. Right, there is some minimum
amount of caliber gauge that you have to use to
kill these animals. And some kids at the age of
ten maybe because of their personality or body structure size,
like they just are not gonna be able to handle
even though a four to ten or a you know

(01:07:50):
really light yeah, you know, six millimeters or whatever. So
you're just gonna have to wait and be And.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
The mental like pulling a trigger and shooting something like
a big mental like I'm gonna take this animal's life
with like I'm going to do it myself. And the
mental like don't push it too hard. Is in like
a you have to like do this right now because
if they like need a way, if they need to
think about that, that's the thing that you have to
kind of overcome in your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Corey On to give you a couple of you want
a technical gear advice, Let me give you some technical
gear advice. Ear plugs, headset, if possible, suppressed.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Something I was not providing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I'm not talking about hout field cheating. Cram their ear
full of ear plugs, cram it. Put head ear muffs
over the ear plugs. Put a couple of layers on,
not a T shirt, m pad, heavy rifle, heavy bipod.
If you can afford it and get it and do

(01:08:51):
all that to get a suppressor, put a suppressor on
it and just deaden, deaden everything down, because I feel
that they conflate the noise and the recoil into a
sort of package of badness. And and doing that double

(01:09:12):
ear protection and just sort of deadening the noise. I
think that you could have the same exact recoil and
remove a bunch of the noise, and in their mind
it's just a much more pleasurable experience because I think
that they're registering the the loudness and the kick into
just a generally unpleasant experience. So by shooting like heavy

(01:09:32):
bipod heavy gun, laying down jackets on, we had very
good luck, to the point where I would tell people
that every we'd go through this two years in a row.
When she finally shot a rifle, she would be worked
up about it. She'd shoot a rifle and her and
she would laugh because she had You would giggle because
you had in your head that it was gonna be

(01:09:53):
so miserable, and then you shoot. You're like, oh, that
was fun, you know, because we did all those steps right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Ye.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Well, my kid just gradu raided from his red Rider
BB gun to a twenty two. So we've done some
squirrel hunting this year. What should I do next? Like
six or five scenes a bit much, but well.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
Let's not jump away from the squirrel hunting me. That's
a I was someone else was talking to me about
squirrel hunting recently, and I was saying, Yeah, I think
that's the reason my girls are the hunters that they
are today and the marksmen that they are today is
because of the time that we spent in the squirrel woods,

(01:10:31):
you know, familiarizing themselves with the twenty two shooting a
twenty two hunting hard to kill animal. And whoever I
was talking to was like, Oh, I thought you guys
just did it because it was fun and you like
to eat them. I'm like, well it is, but like,
I don't know, would you girls agree, Like, you guys
got a lot of fair amount of practice on those squirrels,

(01:10:51):
So when it came to switching to a deer, did
it seem like it was easier?

Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
Yeah, you've already been there.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Yes, the squirrels are hard t find. And I was
like very happy when I could get squirrels on my own.
That was like a really big achievement for me just
to be able to like like go out and like
you trusting me to do that on my own and
like go out and like set up on a squirrel

(01:11:18):
and shoot it and then have it like fall down
from the tree. You hear it hit the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:11:23):
Oh I just sound.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
I just thought of like another tip for like the
people going hunting with their kids soon, like who are
coming of age to it. Like with the kick. If
you think if you're like practicing in like a field
and you don't know if they're flinching or not from

(01:11:49):
like the kick it gives act like you're putting it around,
but don't so then they dry fire and just watch
them because then you'll know if they're actually flinching or not.
Not good to close your eyes before you shoot the
mab also that too, but remind them that. So every

(01:12:10):
time I've shot my deer the adrenaline rush, I never
remember having a kick on my gun. Oh yeah, shoot
a deer, So like remind them that they're most likely
not going to feel the kick when they're actually shooting it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
You don't even think about that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
I know I've said like a lot about this certain thing,
but I have one more tip.

Speaker 8 (01:12:30):
Water.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Yeah, I would like to talk about water light later
and you're you not liking water. But anyway, what I
was about to say was that another tip for well,
in my case, my mom, if you if this is
just in my case, like if you're a dad and

(01:12:53):
you take your kid out hunting, make sure they're wearing
ear protection, because in my case, my mom got very
very upset that I was not wearing ear protection and
had a pretty much like a whole speech about people
losing their hearing and how my dad's ears are so
bad to this day because he doesn't use hearing protection
and when I got my dear, my ears really really

(01:13:17):
started to ring.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
It's not true because it was it was a suppressed rifle.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
I could I could not hear us. Truthfully, from the
bottom of my heart, my ears actually hurt like they hurt.
So make sure you bring ear protection and always have
it ready.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Well, in all fairness, you know the suppressor she was
using as uh, one of those suppressors meant for ars.

Speaker 8 (01:13:43):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
It doesn't get too much blowback. It's like a suppressor light.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Yeah, so it like amplifies, not even more.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
No, it's just kind of doesn't. It's not like a
full like suppressed. It's like that's what it like, itsy bits.
He suppressed. Yeah, I didn't really appreciate that you ran
home and told you mill about that. To be honest
with you, I get in all kind of trouble all
the time. I don't need you adding to.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
It, buddy, Well it was part of my story. How
afterward my ears really hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Anything else, Corey. They can help you with this panel
of experts.

Speaker 9 (01:14:20):
Well, food is extremely important, So favorite snack.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Important. Water is very important.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
Something sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Putting, getting like bars that are sweet but also have
good like nutrition nutritions, but you can put it together,
like snickers are good because they've got like the nuts.
And my dad like actually want to eat because like
there's some of the like bars that he brings and
like I will not eat ever eat that in my
entire life.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I got some junk bars.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Yeah, my dad uses the best bars for hunting there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
It's a nature Valley wafer.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
It's good and they have in them because they've got
like peanut butter. They taste so good. That's a kid
friendly I usually need those for like lunch and breakfast
when I'm right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
That's a kid friendly bar. High protein wafer bar maple
hot tip for on food.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Well, like if normally a lot of like most of
the hunting chips, I like the day hunting chips I
go on. It's like the sandwiches and stuff. Make sure
that you like before just making them a sandwich, Like,
make sure you know that they like the sandwich, and
you could like send it to school with them, because
like I've made a sandwich for myself and I did

(01:15:38):
I put like a Broadworst in it or something, and
I did not like that. It was like the juice
of the broadwaysh got all over the bun and it
did not work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
So like, so just be clear you're saying, don't just
make them a sandwich, work with them to find a
sandwich they like, and then task that they actually like
that sandwich. Yeah yeah, then pack that workshopped approved sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Sandwich you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Well understood. Don't be packing some nasty sandwich no one
wants to eat.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
Not to bring like juicy meat in the sandwich because
then it gets all soggy and that's griss.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Totally understood. Man, that's that's great. You're getting that, Corey.

Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
I'm writing it all down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Okay, favorite snack.

Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
So this happens a lot because I hear it at
Like when I was in elementary school, I heard like
little kids complaining about their throats turning after running or
stuff like that because like they didn't drink water in
their math and their mouth was dry. Bring jolly ranchers
because your kids can catch colds, and a lot of

(01:16:57):
kids like me, I don't like certain cough drops for
some reason. They're like too strong, and jolly ranchers will
help so much. You like suck on it and all
like the saliva in your mouth, you like help it.
It does like the same thing as jolly rancher, just
doesn't have like all the men.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Like green apple, jolly.

Speaker 8 (01:17:25):
Blue, raspberry, cherry and watermelon.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Yeah, that's good. Tip roads best best snack the dried salmon.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
That is very okay, Yes, probably that for one of them,
because dried salmon jerky. I was very very tired and
my head hurt. I did not feel good, and I
was just munching on that salmon jerky and it practically
made me like walk It felt like I was like
in a dream, like I was just like walking along
because I was just munching on my salmon jerky.

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
The effects.

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
Headache had anything.

Speaker 6 (01:18:01):
To do with I probably did have something to do with.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
But I had my own pack this year that my
dad got me and.

Speaker 8 (01:18:09):
And I could put yeah, exactly exactly ever wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
So I fed you the line about the same and jerky.
But what if you had to pack your own snacks.
What's your favorite PROA?

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Well, I really do like protein bars, but every time
I open one of my dad's, like make sure you
eat all that, because he thinks that, like I'm gonna
he thinks that I'm going to open it and then
it's gonna be like really disgusting. But protein bars, I
feel like the good protein bars, like the wafer Nature
Valley wafer. Yeah, those those really good. And rees Yes,

(01:18:45):
make sure you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Bring reeses coffee, sugar, and calories.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
Along with like the jerky thing. Like I like being
able to like have like a big piece of jerky
and just like chewing on it while I walk because
I can just like walk and kind of think that
I'm like restoring energy because I'm eating, but then it's
like like chewy, so I'm like doing something and not
thinking about just like my legs hurt and wow, this

(01:19:11):
is really annoying and people yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Yeah, Well, let me tell you you guys, You guys
uh brought me a lot of happiness this year. Made
me super proud to hang out with you guys. It
was fun to camp with you guys. It was fun
to watch how hard everybody worked. You guys got up
way before it got light out, you were coming back
way after it got dark. Hiked good, everybody shot good.

(01:19:38):
You guys are fun to have in camp. You help out,
you got a long.

Speaker 7 (01:19:42):
Good a lot of dish cleaning. Everybody helped you guys
go down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And washed and clean dishes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Except for the boys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah, I wouldn't include him in this compliment. I'm talking
to the people in.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
The room, but they would you need to write when
we were like in the river.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Listen, man, I'm just talking to the ladies right now. Okay,
I'm none of the boys, lady, None of the boys
are here. Okay, I'm talking to the ladies from my
hunting partner. Ladies, you guys did a fantastic job. Made
me very proud. What happened.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Nothing got bye buck nuts.

Speaker 8 (01:20:20):
Yes we need.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
Can we please talk about the hot butter you mentioned?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
But I want to keep comment you for one more second.
I'm serious. You guys made me very very happy to
be to go hunt with you guys. It was all
It's an honor. And when I'm an old man dying
and someone asked me listen and someone says, like, what
was all of all the hunting you did, what was
the best funnest time? I will I already know what
I'll say. There's no way, there's no way it's going
to get any better. Is hunting youth, dear season. And

(01:20:48):
what makes it so special is you guys coming along.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
Kay, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
So you can talk about the hot buttered buck nuts. Now.
Never gonna wrap it up. You guys gotta go back
to school.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
Well before buttons, I had something to add to I had,
But you had that moment when you were taking a nap,
your kids nap twice as long on your chest there.
But I think it was the last night we were
in camp. You'd already been in your tent for an hour.
It seemed like Steve was in bed at eight thirty
and the rest of the adults at like nine nine

(01:21:19):
thirty were like, all right, we've had enough. You know,
we're going to bed. All the kids are up and
I can from my tent. I can hear them. There's
no lights on. They're in this cottonwood grove and there's
no lights on, and all the adults are in their
tents like laying there, and I can just hear. I
can't tell what they're talking about, but it's just chatter.

(01:21:41):
And I'm just thinking, man, how great our kids are
just hanging out in the dark, you know, in the
middle of Montana, somewhere they're safe, there's no screens, there's
no phones. They're enjoying themselves. They're comfortable where they are
and their surroundings. What could be better?

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Yeah, let's just say during that whole experience, me and
Mabel went and got ready for bed, but Jimmy and
Hayden took the biggest sticks they could. You want there,
But no, I don't heard it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:10):
He got a huge log, the taller than him and
packed it behind.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
His back and they started sword fighting.

Speaker 8 (01:22:17):
They started sword fighting and then almost slapped Jimmy in
the head.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
That's why those guys are invited. Those guys aren't here.
And if we didn't let those knuckleheads come down.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Here and we when we were what you heard was
probably well me and Mabel. Like I said, we eventually left,
but we were all playing a game that Jimmy made
called Scream that got a little boring. It's like where
Jimmy and Hayden, which is them every time. It's supposed
to be like different people, but it's not. Jimmy made
it up. They go into the woods and the rest

(01:22:48):
of the people try to go find them, and if
you scream, you have to join the people who are
trying to scare you. It's very fun. It can get
boring at points when you're not in the right surroundings
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Got let's touch on the hot butt buck nuts, Mabel
and go ahead, because your one's that brought them back
to camp. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
So like when we were cutting open the deer, you know,
like butchering, we like obviously we we had him upside down,
and the bucknuts were like right there because you know,
you like cut them off and stuff. So like the
buck nuts had been like thrown in the same direction,
and I like walked by and I was like, hey, Papa,

(01:23:36):
well like they they had been I think one of
like Aina's had been thrown like the bushes. And then
we were cutting open mine like we were starting, you
know where you started butchering, and I was like, I
was like, oh, like, can we like eat buck nuts?
I started it with something like that, or like can
buck nuts be like like taken and eating and stuff?

(01:24:00):
And my dad he started he was like he was like,
oh yeah, and then we started like talking about bucknuts obviously,
and yeah, we just like started it. And then I
had never heard of from like Hattie like the sign
of sex thing, but I mean, I guess we brought
them back and yeah, but like we just like I

(01:24:24):
had just said like like, oh, can we like eat those?
And then my dad was like, oh yeah, So then
we were like talking about them. So I just like
put them in a bag and then I put them
in a backpack and then we like brought them back
and we cut them up and we had him.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
So yeah, and then we made a little jingle to it,
which is also on Instagram that you can check out.
But uh, then after that we had already eaten ours.
Me and Hottie both spit ours out because we weren't
enjoying them very much. And how he was like, you know,
I'll make a funny little video on my phone. Rosie
grabbed another bucknut we're eating more so.

Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
That happened.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
We ate them. They were interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:25:03):
I had a couple of comments saying that if we
peel them even farther, they'll be even They'll be even
better somehow, and you won't get that sort of tightness
that you're worried about. It sort of generates the exit.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Oh taking the next layer of skin off. Yeah, I'm
not familiar. I'll check that out.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
Either, but I think next time I do them, I
am going to pre slice and do like a breading. Yeah,
pan fry or better.

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Yeah, you should bring your buck nuts bag. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
The oldest thing every year called the Testicle Festival, and
it'd be like, wow, I want to go to that.
They just fry up all these calf all these steer
nuts and then be a big old deal. All right, gal,
thanks for coming down to the show. Everybody, No one's
aging out right. You got another year?

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Oh yeah, two more years?

Speaker 7 (01:25:48):
I thought it. You're sixteen fifteen last year, okay, fifteen,
two more years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
We're not losing anyone. We're not losing any hunters. Everybody's
still in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Even if I'm not hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
We had I don't know if you guys remember we
had to retire one of our guys, Hattie's brother Harrison
aged out.

Speaker 8 (01:26:06):
If we have another four day, he'll he could come
during general.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Had his brother Harrison aged out. But we got a
lot of We got a lot coming up. I got
one kid not even old enough, and I said, one day,
if I was saying one day, if you could do,
if there was a youth elk season, I'd still be
having kids. But someday when my nine year old hits
to be fifteen, I'm gonna be looking for I'm gonna adopt.

(01:26:32):
Just so you'm gonna adopt a nine year old.

Speaker 7 (01:26:36):
You could just take out friends kids too. Might be easy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
That might be less expensive too. All right, girl, thanks
so much for coming down. You guys. You going back
to school?

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Yep, yeah, going back going back to school.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Okay, all right, let's go get educated. Thank you everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:26:50):
Bye bye, bye bye.

Speaker 7 (01:27:23):
Why why.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Cold cold?

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
There ain't no damn anywhere on this God for shaken
mountains

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