July 9, 2024 • 45 mins
Hey there, Loftmates! Hannah and Lamorne return to mess around and recap episode 213: A Father's Love. We discuss the late great Dennis Farina, "horse juice," and dads.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want you to know something, Hannah, Jake doesn't respect you.
Jake Johnson doesn't respect you. He doesn't he doesn't respect anybody,
but mostly women he doesn't respect. So I want I
want all the fans out there to know I, as
a man, yeah, respecting value women. Jake Johnson as the
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little boy doesn't respect the value of women because he
doesn't respect himself.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is feels just between you and Jake.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, I just thought that you could put that out there.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It just feels like this is a bit now that
is going to go back and forth between our podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, so instead of listening to We're Here to Help,
you should listen to The mess Around and also the
The Morning After the Morning After podcast. I just it
doesn't mean why listen to anything else, especially someone who
doesn't respect women. Babe, yeah, babe.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Should we talk about a father's love?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We should? Come on now, we should.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I want everybody to gab now, mesud, we should talk
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about a father's love.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
This episode two thirteen of Father's Love. I gotta say,
you know, this episode was it's you know, new girl.
Obviously very slapsticky, very sometimes can be uh not cheesy,
but like can't be. You know, it's a funny show.
It's a it's a hard comedy, but if you want
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in a while, I don't know, some real emotional stuff
can come out of it. In this episode in particular
hit me because of well, you know, for obvious reasons.
You know, I had daddy issues, and watching it, I
was like, dang it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
They really got like Winston in the mix of it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, did they know anything about your personal story?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't know. I don't think so. I mean I
made a lot of job, improvised a lot of jokes
about it. So I on the day, on the day,
whenever stuff would come up, I would go, man, you know,
I ain't got no dad like I would say that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I think they started writing towards it the same
way they did. You know, we would talk about Chicago,
and you know it's like, oh, now your character. That's
how we got to fit it together. The Bulls, the Bears, Chicago,
like our real lives are part of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Can I tell you how unprofessional I am or hyper
professionally am You just said the Bears and I went.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Bear, Oh lord, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh I'm like a kid with like squirrel. I just
got like personally excited about like a mention of the bear.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Stop.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm so sorry. I'm paying attention to what you're saying,
and it's very heartfelt. I just got a personal moment
of excitement in my body.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Hanna, my dad died. How do you feel now.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Sad about your dad? Happy about the bear mention?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
A dickhead? Wait?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So, but I'm being serious.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So, because this was written by Melmoth and Merkley Johnson
and two of our greatest writers on New Girl, do
you think that they knew anything of your own personal
story beforehand? Or this was just one of those weird
art imitating life kind of coincidences and you're just kind
of like in it beforehand.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm not too sure, unless you know I would. I
would have real conversations with Breton Dave, like genuine like
my family, you know, conversations with them. So maybe they
brought that to the writer's room. It wasn't like, hey,
I'm telling you this in private. It was just like, yeah,
this is you know, I haven't seen my father in
you know, X amount of years, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I do remember Breton Dave talking a lot in
season one about using what they like, the actors' stories
and what they have, so you see, you know, a
lot of Zoe kind of woven in with Jess myself.
Like I think they did use people's stories so that
that was something that was shared.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Then Yeah, there's actually a good.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Chance, which is real. It is weird because me personally
excellent basketball player, one of the best of all time,
but yet they rarely showed it. In fact, they made
fun of my basketball ability on the show, which I
thought was weird.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, but they did also establish you as a
professional basketball player.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, but like the worst professional.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Basketball but like the best in like Latfia.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But the worst on the Latfia team. That's the way
it made it. See made the team. I made the team. Yes,
maybe I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Just trying to positive spin you right here.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think there was I made it tame because of
something political or I had black I had blackmail on someone.
That's why they were like I let them black.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
All right, let's dive into this episode.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Hit me with that recap.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, so here's the deal. We got an exciting episode
for you. We got we're going to talk about spying
on significant others. We're going to talk about to being
friends with your ex and of course do buy horse juice.
Of course we'll get into that. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Life is called juice. I just want to say.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Horse juice. Oh okay, boy Seaman. This episode written by
Liz Merriweather Berkeley Johnson, Josh Melmoth, and of course directed
by the wonderful Jake Kasden. So in this episode, Nick's dad, Walt,
played by the magnificent Dennis Farina Rip he surprises him
by showing up unannounced at the loft. Now, I don't
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know if you guys remember, but he is a con
man for sure, and he quickly charms Jess into buying
a horse, as a con man would do. And you know,
you know he's good because it ain't easy convincing somebody
to buy a horse. Anyway, Jess is fixated on trying
to repair the relationship between Nick and his father. Meanwhile,
Schmidt enlists some help from Robbie in order to devise
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a plan to win CC. Predictably, every plan ends with
Schmidt winning CC back and Robbie getting kicked to the
curb and or dying. So that is the episode in
a nutshell. I normally we would go from top to
I just have to say something before I forget it.
White man, white guy power.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I would to shout it too.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I was just like, man, the fact that it's also
written by two white men.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They're like, you know what, yeah, because everyone, let me
tell you something. Everything. I know it's written in comedy,
but I got a feeling. I gotta feeling somebody was
feeling something. Berkeley and Josh, I'll got some explaining to you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Honestly, I forgot all about it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I don't know why, because I'm in a scene where
I'm standing surrounded by brown people. Yes, and they shouted it, yes.
And I had a feeling because that was a really
packed room in that scene. We'll get to it, but
I have a feeling that not everybody understood the bit.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So they're just in a.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Room, oh my gosh, of.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Two guys very unapologetically and enthusiastically.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Saying white guy power. And my favorite part about that
is Schmidt telling Robbie, He's like, you gotta stop, that's
kind of racist. And I go, after all the shit
you said, what are you talking about now? You now
you draw the line concern? Yeah, he's concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I totally forgot about it, and I went like
out loud when I saw it, I was like, oh,
oh wow, I think I think I blocked that one out.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, so let's let's jump right into it. Jess Winston Nick.
They're all at the table Lian Schmidt and they're playing
Peely Cup, Pely Cup, Peely Cup. And it's a game
where you stick your hand inside to something and guess
what's in there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Don't I'm not okay, all right, here's what I'm going
to say. I feel like if somebody was like, let's
play feely Cup, I would be like, I it's that time. Yeah,
I gotta go. I'm not doing I don't. I do
not trust people.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Don't don't play that game with me because I listen.
I I like Winston. I'm terrible at prank, so I
might put something in there.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Like I know you would. You'd put like like a
like something a live or a bug or.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Something that's at That's why I never never I had
an idea for the episode today of like let's play
Philly Cup, and then I was, look at your face,
that's correct. I was just like, you know what, we
have a good friendship going. Yeah, it's decades strong. I
don't want to lose it. Yeah, over what you put
in a cup.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Let this be a lesson to all you folks out there, ladies,
especially if you go to the movies with a with
a young man and he buys popcorn, he says, you
wanna he gets one. He said, let's play a little
feey cup. Because he's a new girl friend. Don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't trust him.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Run because.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's what's in that bucket of yes exactly. We can
beep that out if we get it. Acter we can,
but you know, algorithms, algorithms and such. I don't want
to get shadow banded. Yeah, you can say potus Okay.
So when they're playing fieldy cup, that's when Walt decides
he's he's showing up. He just rolls in the house
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and uh to Nick surprise, there there his dad is,
there's his dad.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And then Nick goes and does something that I can
totally understand, which he does angry fixing. H Yeah, when
you're frustrated, do you like to just go and like
physically exert yourself to like deal with the feeling in
your body?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Angry fixing? When I get frustrated, you know what I do, well,
I get on the apps. Oh and then I call
a task rabbit to fix stuff for me while I
just angrily stare at him. Got it, Yeah, that's what
I do. And never get these hands dirty, never.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Think so I'll go to that task rabbit. Come in here.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
The outlook cover right there is loose loose fix that
got it?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And like I don't even know, like early high school
watching someone got so frustrated, like a kidneer school, and
he punched a stop sign.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
How you get up there?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Jumped?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Now genuinely, that's my thought. Now, it's not like that
kid had anger issues. I'm like, hops, did you make that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Work for you?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Is he? Bro skill? I know that's insane. If you
punched a stop sign your drift to a neighborhood you
see holes in the stop sign, No, those are bullet holes.
That's the neighborhood you don't want to be in. It's
the future. Also for you fans out there, if you're
in the wrong neighborhood you see holes in the stop sign,
turn around, go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's your public service announcement right now, I love.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Giving public service announcement. We're not just a podcast recapping
New Girl. We're also out here teaching, trying to make
the all the better place.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We find out the nickname of Nick's opening from the dad.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It couldn't be a worse nickname. It's just so direct
and factual.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Unless and you know, unless you're like you have like
a big guy, they call him tiny? Was that tiny? Yeah?
I know, that's just it. That's just my excuse.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So you think he it was not true, or the
dad just was doing it to torment him, or because
he was little and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It was you it was little. You ever see that
video of the kids making Oh no, It's like it's
like four or five kids outside playing and he's like,
he's like, man, that's what you got, a little dick?
He goes, oh no, man, I am a child.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Props to proportion, Yeah, sometimes when you were like I'm proportionate?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
What Yeah? So what I love about this there's a
couple of things going on here. Schmid is calling Walt
a con man. Yes, Winston's like, no, he's a businessman.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And I and the reason for that because Schmid can,
I mean, they both can see that. However, Winston is like,
you'll you find out later on that he has some
stuff with his dad, so he's like, at least he's
doing something and pops up every once in a while.
My dad has never popped back up at all, so
he appreciates him. And because he was around more than
his own father when he was a kid, he calls
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him pop pop, which is so weird because, first of all,
you know, a white guy wrote this, because black people,
we don't call nobody pop pop. But I said it.
I didn't correct them.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's on me looking back. Now, would you say something
now and be like, we're not calling this I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Calling this man pop up? I'd be like, pops.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah, I thought it was strange when you said it.
And now maybe it's because I know you well enough
to know like that doesn't want to come out of
his mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I didn't. That is again, we're still in the second
season where I felt performance wise, I wasn't one hundred
percent comfortable in my skin on the show.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
How did you feel when you met Dennis Freina because
he's like an icon.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah it was. It was. He's a Chicago guy as well,
so you know, there was that where I felt comfortable
enough around him but he's also a different part of
town Chicago, old guy hard knows, you know, kind of
used to be a cop. So there was there was
that level of like, you know, him also being an
acting legend. I was like a little nervous, you know
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what I mean. But he was super cool, except for
when Schmidt or Max and Jake were making those like
peeping Tom jokes. What you remember those peeping Tom jokes.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I wasn't in those scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh my gosh, who other Oh we got to unpack
this one. Jake might help unpack this one too when
he's on the show. But so Dennis used to be
a detective, right, and Max had this bright idea that
he was gonna ask and I'm just I'm just you know,
this is uh, I'm loosely telling the story. Dennis was
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a detective in Chicago back in the seventies. Max had
this bright idea to ask him, Hey, man, when you
were like doing surveillance, did you ever have seen any
naked ladies? Oh? God, yeah, I just looked at him.
It was like, no, what's your problem? Oh hated Max.
The rest of the shoot, Oh no, Max was doing
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a bit. They were trying to be funny and it
was it was it was Jake and Max Max. Jake
was kind of selling out Max a little bit, like
setting him up for failure. And that's what he did.
He set him up for failure. Wowow Olivia, I think
I want to say, was that. I think Olivia was
there at one point too. Olivia mon was there too
when it happened, and she started like leaning into it,
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like to set Max up again for more failure.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yep, should have known better.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
He should have known better. Yeah, he should.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's a vibe check at that point, asking her cool
birk at the job man, share the naked lady stories.
I get the body here, gosh, all right, Okay. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
Schmidt is spying on Cci, who is on a date.
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That's what they think she's on. She's actually meeting family
members of someone perspective okay, and bumps into one of
my favorite Nelson Franklin Robbie also spying. Yes, there was
something so funny about the idea. I remember shooting that scene.
It was in that little courtyard on the Fox lot
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of when I read it, of having like her two
ex's finding common ground and just defeating the other. Yes,
so they could just get back to at least the
two of them, to douke it out that I loved
so much, so much?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What is it like the enemy of my enemy as
my friend. That was the whole storyline.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Oh yeah, the thing about these two, it's so strange.
I don't think I've ever had this in my life before,
because I am friends with some guys who we've dated
the same person, But it's never like that. It's never
been like we're bonding over her, you know what I mean?
Like that's never been.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Have you and nobody been in love with the These
men are in love, want to get married and spend
the rest of their lives with CC. That's a different
thing than like we dated somebody. Like they both have
like their whole life plan laid out in their head
with her.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm starting to realize this says a lot about CC. Yeah,
why are you keeping these people around? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
How she keeping anybody?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She's out there at a cafe meeting someone and stalkers.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Clearly your locations were still on.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think they follow her.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think that they don't have real jobs and they
just follow her around all day like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Creep that's creepy. Yes, that's creepy because at least with
Schmidt his you know, he lives in the loft where
your best friend lives, right, so at least he kind
of still you. You are always around. You are in
every episode, so you're always around.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Robbie's not but even Robbi doesn't Robbie turn out to
be like Jess's cousin.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah so, but you know, hello, you know what I'm saying.
That does new that's a new Developments.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Just selling else okay to her roommate and Couzy.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That could be it. That solving crimes, Oh yeah, that's
what we do here. We don't just recap New Girl
or give excellent advice.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
We also self crimes, self crimes and irk former police officers.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yes, oh god, we're going to go to break you guys.
But when we come back, remember never forget.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, all right, and.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We are back and I'm excited to be back. Hannah,
Yeah me too. Yeah, you don't why why? I don't know,
So I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We're having one of those things.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, so we can't go through life alone. Man, all right.
Diving back into the episode, They're going to buy a horse. Yes,
this is the con he's running right now, right, Walt
wants to buy a horse. He needs help, he needs assistants,
and he spots a mark.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
In jest old blue Eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Old blue Eyes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
She's gullible, Yeah, right, like she truly is. Yeah, I
think that's adorable. At the same time, people will take
advantage of you, as we see in this episode.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well she kind of runs on that thing of like, well,
see the best in people and give them a shot,
and it doesn't really apply in this scenario. No, No,
I don't feel like that's my motto. I'm not looking
around trying to find the best in people.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I'm more like the Maya Angelou saying, which is
like when people show you who.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They are, kill them in their sleep, believe them.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, doesn't want to murder.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, I don't know. You never know what she did.
You know she could not hear? Mrcan fools. Can you
imagine if Maya Angelou is a serial killer on a twist?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You dare talk about Ma Maya like that?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I know why?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Okay okay.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We also find out that Winston is still owed eleven
hundred dollars from Waltz Yes, which made me think about
if someone owes you money, have you ever forgotten about it?
Does it say like front of mine? Now when ever
you see them, are you just going to ask for like, hey, Bud,
you forgot you're only like five hundred bucks? Or just
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let shit slide.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I gotta say I've loaned a lot of people money. Yeah,
and it it is something that I'm trying to go
back on. But I don't. I don't remind people of it.
I don't. I don't. You know there used to be
there used to be a way I would go about
doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know I if you needed something, I would say,
talk to my business manager. Oh, they'd make you sign
something and come up with a payment plan. Oh wow.
I don't do that with family anymore. Yeah, just because
I just don't do it. I just it's yours. It's
if I'm giving you money, it's a gift.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know. So with friends who borrow money, I don't
remind them. But my business manager does you.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Got a middleman?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I have a middle man. I have a middle man,
and it doesn't they don't always pay. My business manager
knows like they might not pay you back. We're not
going to come after them. He's like, this is just part.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Of right, you know, this is to encourage good behavior, right,
And but a lot of them might be like Walt,
who They're just like, well, yeah, that was your choice
and you kind of know what I'm about.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And some of them and some of them are I
feel like with any case of Winston and Walt, Winston
is seeing the good in him, so he's like, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna ask him for it, because
you know, there's more to He has a bigger value
in my life than he probably knows. That's right, So
I'm not gonna harass him for eleven hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I thought that was actually a really sweet moment between
you and Jake when Nick is going off about like
how like bad his dad is, and then Winston goes like.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, but at least he's here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, like appreciate what you have because this could be different.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Friend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, yeah. In that scene, this is where you know,
going back to the top of the episode, what we
talked about, Yeah, this is that that moment watching that
scene was when it hit me. I was like, man,
that's my life, Like that truly, that truly is my life.
And if I wish that I could go backwards and
obviously forgive my father without him, you know, without him
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stepping forward first, without him extending the olive branch first,
because you know, once he passed away. I was like, damn,
I you know I should have you know what I mean?
That doesn't make sense, like too, because I'm even though
I went through what I went through as a kid,
I'm still a grown man now. I should be able
to figure it out and like move past it to
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try to mend that relationship. But I never did. And
watching this episode, I was like, damn, this is like
this is I remember that moment of filming that, like
feeling that you know, never and then never shooting it
and then never going out and actually extending an olive
branch to my father. I never did that, and you know,
you regret it. But that's why this episode was like
(22:05):
a weird one for me watching it.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I can't imagine being in the moment, like did it
feel therapeutic or did it feel more like awkward Because
you're having a bunch of people stand around and it's
way deeper for you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's probably more awkward than anything. Not not therapeutic at all,
not not not therapeutic. But I use I use comedy
to move past it. Like that's why I say, I
make a lot of jokes about it, but like, yeah,
it affects me. It has affected me in my life.
But you know, we we we plow ahead obviously, Yeah
and so yeah, but I having all I'm sure the
(22:38):
crew members and everybody was weren't like, man, this he
must be talking about his really sure. I didn't give
an Oscar worthy performance there.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was just you know, you know, I just don't
know if there was something like that kind of touched
a nerve that was deeper for me because I don't
know how fast though, you know, like how fast we
shoot all the silly bits that are happening of I
then would want to be put in a position where
then I had to like talk through something where those
words had real weight and like a silly scene, you know,
I think that would be really hard. And when I
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watched it, because I know all the stuff, I was
just like, wow, I can't I just can't imagine on
the day you know you're gonna have to go step
out there and kind of do it. But it landed,
and I think it probably made a difference to people
that were watching it to be like, Okay, it might
not be perfect, but appreciate who you have and how
they're showing up even if it isn't ideal.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
At least they're there.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah. Yeah, the New Gol writers did a good job
of fucking with me, So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We plow ahead, We plow ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So they're at this they're at this racetrack.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, they're at the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That was the me. See I wrote this down there.
That was the I believe we were at the Santa
Anita Racetrack. Which is interesting because Dennis was also on
a show called Luck. Oh yeah, shot at the same place.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Wait wasn't luck though, like the unluckiest show that ever happened,
and it got shut down because all these horrible things
are happening to the horses and crew members.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, somebody, I think people. Somebody died.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I don't want to And multiple things though happen on
this show called Luck.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, which is odd, odd, very odd.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I remember then.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I forgot about it until you just said it. But yeah,
oh strange. I wonder how he felt being back there.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, and yeah, we were sitting down when you're shooting
with somebody that you admire. I hate small talk with him.
Oh yeah, I just I'm not a I don't know
what it is. I think I have a social anxiety.
In those moments, I start to like tense up, and
I don't want to have a casual conversation. I'd rather
keep a professional and then maybe if something organic happens.
Sure between tanks. We were sitting next to each other
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and I was forced to talk to him, and I
did not make a fool of myself, but in my
mind I was. I was like I was al was
second guessing every word that came out of my mouth
and overthinking it. And it was in that moment where
he told me he'd been there before, he had filmed
there before. I was like, oh, well, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
He didn't share the rest of it. He was just like,
I've shot here before.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I think he I think he did talk about how
it was shut down, but I don't I don't recall
exactly what that conversation was. I just remember that was
the same place.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
What a surreal moment for him. You both had surreal
moments at the racetrack. He's back there on the show
talking about horses.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, trying to get lucky with it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I know, weird? Are you a weird?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Are you a horse person?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Really, nope.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I always had like a really deep fear of horses
because when I was young, I read, I was like
so obsessed with Superman and I remember like seeing in
the news what happened to Christopher Reeves and I was like, all,
horse did that to Superman? And I was like, I
don't mess with horses then, and I never have.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You should have. So a horse did to that one
dude in h two guys, one horse.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, I will never see what happens to that guy
with the horse. I can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Don't look that up.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I will never look that up.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do not look that up.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
No, nobody looked that up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
These four horses out of it.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh so, by the way, real question is horse semen
like a huge valuable commodity.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I would imagine it is because people breed people breed
horses and they need that golden It's what is it? Eugenics?
What is what do you call that? What's the word
I'm looking for? Eugenics when you're breeding based off of
like genetics and you're making sure that they listen. Sorry,
to bring it to this, but it goes back to
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like slavery days, probably even before that, where it's like
the strongest top and then you would breed so you
can have these. It's what Kyle always says. Kyle's always like,
I'm dating some I I prefer my women to be
five nine and up so we could breed NBA players.
He's like, so, my my wife is gonna be tall
(27:02):
so our kids can go bro.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I just want to say that Kyle is in the
room right now. Kyle, this is your chance that's true
or not. It's factual.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's factual.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, all right, okay, I'm making that.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Tall queens you know whose dms to slide into, just.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Saying trying to have you.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
If you make the cut, you can DM.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I felt like that's how it is with horses.
They breed to have the best horse, the best race horse.
That makes sense, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All right, okay, so he thinks he's foundly a horse
that's got that good good and he's trying to sell it.
Yeah all right, okay. I didn't know if that was
like a weird thing too. I don't know it was real.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know a lot about horse semen shocking.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And I have a question for you. Yeah, did you
find the bear bear? Still bear?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
If I one in this episod when you said it
earlier on and then I was really unprofessional.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I got really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
But I know you're not talking about the podcast episode
of A Father's Love. You're talking about the actual New
Girl episode of A Father's Love. And I am dying
to distract you by saying lots of words really fast
to make you think that maybe I found it, But
the only one I found is the one on the fridge,
as we know, does not count.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It does not count. And you're letting me. You're not
just letting me. Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Season two is a little bear less?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I want to say, but that doesn't mean just because
like like if ninety five percent of the time in
our one hundred and something episodes, I find the bear
that proves more than not my bear theory, Okay, And
I'm sorry. In season two they were just like, there's
so many horses in this one, we can't squeeze in
a bear.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What Okay? Your math a mathon what I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Too many horses means not enough bears for this episode.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, enough horsing around. I'm just trying to tell you.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now I had.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I would say clap fifteen success rate on finding the bear.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Season Jew has been tough. I no, I've really do
this bit live. We need callers to call in and
be like, here's the bear. I need support.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh my goodness, let's go to break and we're back.
If you're just tuning in, Hannah yet again, do not
find the bear? So she is? So she is over.
She's okay. If this was baseball, you would be in
the Hall of Fame. I think you're bat in about
three three fifty. So where are we at. We find
(29:31):
ourselves in a little conundrum here. Yeah, Walt's got a deal. Yeah,
he finds Jess. Yeah, he gets her to do the
whole little thing that makes everyone turned off by the horse, right,
it works. So now he's going to go and sell
it to some I think Russians where they Russian.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
They're Russian Ish, Russian Ish.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I forget Russian esque. Yeah, and Nick is like, I'm
coming along now. Interesting enough. I believed Walt. I was like,
I think he's going to go and make some money
and bring her.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Back what's really crazy is I actually did too, and
then I realized we're suckers. We are we really are suckers,
because I was like, you know what, that does look
like a good horse. Yeah, I feel like this could
be like the one time he actually works it out,
and I.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Was like, this is how he gets yet exactly. And
then Nick pardoned my friends. But he looks it up.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, that part was kind of sweet because he really
was like, I want to like bond with my dad
and this is the thing we used to do, and
I'm going to be an asset. I'm going to help.
And he is the opposite of helpful and ends up
naked dancing in a parking lot, sweating profusely.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I once, as a six year old went with my
dad on a drug deal. So I get it. You
know I was trying to help him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Were you helpful at all?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Not one bit?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, I remember you telling me that story for the
first time. Yeah, I remember you telling me that story. Yes,
I feel the same region my help. Okay, so he goes,
he screws it up, he sweats, He screws up the
whole deal, which causes a real like face to face
moment between father and son.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes, yes, it does.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Where they start to tell their truths.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, which is always needed. It is you. You just
got to get it out there and you could take
that with you. I'm gonna say what I gotta say. Yeah,
you don't have to respond right now, but at least
you know that's that's exactly how I feel. Yeah, And
it's not left to because a lot of times we'll
do something, or we might be in a relationship or
friendship and we'll do something and then we kind of
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leave it alone and think that the other person hasn't
been affected by it, or because they haven't brought it up,
like they don't care. Yeah, but you know, you gotta
put it out there and be like, hey, listen, this
made me feel like this, this ain't right or blah
blah blah blah blah. I'm good, I'm over it. However,
you know what you're gonna do with that information.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, you should just be aware, this is my truth
exactly anything from you, but this is my truth. That's
what happens. That's what happens in this episode. That's the
moment that Jess kind of forces to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Have happened, which is so weird because she clearly cannot
get out of that parking lot. Just walk to the
car and get it out.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It brought back so many flashbacks because I am a
self proclaimed not great driver, and watching her try to
maneuver the trailer, I was so scared. I remember seena
to shoot with Max where they gave me some like
fancy little BMW and I was supposed to like reverse
and then drive away quickly. And I was like in
(32:36):
a state of panic because I was like, I there,
what how could you have? I'm gonna what do I hit? Max?
When I had this whole meltdown and Max had to
come over and be like okay, and I was like
the he mean heels, I.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can't do this Max. I was like, I'm a terrible.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Driver, Hannah. Yeah, what are you saying to the people
out there?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The truth?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm saying my truth okay, and they don't have to
do anything with it. Why accept who?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
And I love myself?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Anna? Why are you out and these Why are you
out on these roads?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I will say once it's kids out there.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I had to park like at a target and it
was a tight spot between two cars, and I saw
a gentleman who was asking for money outside of the Target.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
So park my car and I'll give you a quarter.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I asked for help parking my car.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You gotta be shitting.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
And I came back and I told my day. He's like,
how to God.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I was like good.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I was like, a gentleman, help me park my car.
He goes, you gave the keys to my car.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Wait, he helped you by driving it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We got in the car park, gave him my car,
and I just stood on the corner and we we swiped,
We swatched, we swatched spots.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's my time. Yeah, you can keep the coffee.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I got help. I needed help, and I got help.
I thought that was industrious, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What I got help?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Hannah? That Hannah. I'm from this moment on. Yes, I'm
judging you on such a level. I'm not gonna respect
you the way I used to.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I was pretty low. Anyway, Oh my gosh, I needed help.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You needed help park it at Target. There was one
spot left that's right and all of Target and you
couldn't get in it. So the man asking for change,
you were like, ah, let's make an exchange park. Here
are the keys to my car. Man who probably hasn't
driven the car and I don't know how long because
this man is homeless, like he's he's so you tease
him a little bit. Hey getting to this. I know
(34:33):
you got a fancy car. Get into this, uh Rose
Royce really quick and uh just parallel park that for
your girl. Haha. Here's a quarter for your trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I did not give him a quarter, did you give him?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And I don't twenty? That mean that that's a good
amount of money. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And I said thank you, and he looked he was
thrilled to drive.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
He said, yes, Sannah, he was thrilled to be in
the car.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Hannah, that's so messed up. We had a well what
that's why going on.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm going to see someone and based on their condition
and like be like, no, I don't think that you
can help me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm going to ask about this. That's teasing him.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Judging I needed help.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's teasing him, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Men, and he helped.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's like me sitting in one of those fancy restaurants. Right,
You're sitting one of those fancy restaurants and you're outside
and a way that comes and he gives you your
very expensive forty three dollars soup and it's too hot,
and you say, hey, homeless man, you want to come
blow on this soup for me?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Girl who was about to damage some cars, and a
very kind gentleman who may not have been employed in
that moment.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Of his life help me. Thank you, sir, I appreciate you.
He's in that man's a judgment.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Hey, hey, man who doesn't have a home and who's
going through a lot. Please, my refrigerator is broken in
my home. Can you please come inside of my home?
Open it up, see all this delicious food. Close it,
but make sure you she fixed the coolant system in it.
It didn't get out.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I mean you could take you could take us all
the food you would.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Want to then go back to the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You should have moved that man in.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I feel like this should be like an online poll.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Was it so wrong to ask for help? And I
needed help from someone who was willing to help?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Okay, Hannah, Okay, Hannah, this I've disgusted.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
This is, by the way, conversations that Lamourna and I
would have all the time at work raging back. So
why are you guys yelling at each other? What are
you fighting about? He's like, she lives on another planet.
I was like, you live on another planet. And that
was ten years of working together. You guys just had
an insight to our mornings at work. Literally that He's like,
what did you do yesterday? I was like someone that
we part my car and we scream at each other
(36:41):
for the rest of the day about what an idiot
the other person was. Oh, Mike, that's the foundation of
our friendship pretty much. I can't believe I've never told
you that story before. It's like twenty years old, but
this true story.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I think about it this day.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He was so mad. This is what, this is why,
This is why it frightens me that I have a daughter,
because you are somebody that in life will be helping
guide her. Yes, you're like an auntie. You're going to
be like, yeah, you know. But now I'm like, no.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Things have worked out pretty well for me.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I let's say stay away from my child, weirdo. Let's
get have her out.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And ask people for help. You don't judge them on
your job. You come talk to your auntie, don't listen
to your daddy right now.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
So a couple funny moments that we want to talk
about white guy, white guy power, white guy.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Power, white eye power.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So set the scene for us. What's what's happening?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't know, but the fact that these two exes
have bonded on the fact that they're white, Yes, and
they were going to have power in destroying their ex
girlfriends questifying love with a brown man. Yes, and this
did not get our show canceled in anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Is phenomenal work work.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
White eye Power is so funny to me that they
I just I remember at the time being like.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Just feel like we're going to get a note back
after the.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Table read no notes.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It stuck and it was screamed in a room full
of brown people that were completely unaware that this was
a bit.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes. And one of those brown people in that room
who knew it was a bit because he's one of
the producers and you know, executives on our show.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Puff and Chetty, Puff and Schetty is really Puff and Chetty.
That's not a made up name. That's Puven r Puven,
who was part of our show and very wonderful, smart,
attractive man, and they made him the apple.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Puff and Schetty of Schetty Solutions. What's what they called.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
It does bring up the question of broken hearted spye.
When you have been broken hearted, have you gone and spied?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, I've done that before. Me too, I've done that before.
Behavior not in like a professional way, because they are
professional ways to go about doing it. Now that I
am and now that I have means, there is a
way to go about Just hire people. Yeah, you hire
some Navy seals, spanks, military.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Come with you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Like my broken hearted spying was like when I was
in like middle school, and I was just like standing
by someone's locker.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh, that's not really spying, that's just you, And.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's that's just being a creepy middle schooler obsessed with someone.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
When you drive forty minutes to someone's home and be like,
who's over here? That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You've done that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
No, no, no, no, oh, not forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You're like thirty nine forty one. It's not get lost
in the details.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Who this parking lot?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
White guy power, you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
White guy power.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
This was a fun, weird, strange, heavy episode. Yes, And
I think it's one of those episodes for New Girl
that really had the fans fall in love with the characters.
There was like a lot of vunderability, a lot of lessons,
a lot of bonding. Yeah, I think that happened, and
I feel like we got a few of those every
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season that just kind of stepped away from like the
big jokes and the big bits, and we really got
to know the characters and the relationship to each other.
And I kind of had forgotten about it, to be
honest with you, because my experience of this episode was
being locked in a room with a bunch of brown
people with two white guys screaming white eye power.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So getting to but.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Getting to rewatch it, I was like, this was actually
really important in like the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
This episode and encompassed everything New Girl is. Silliness, funniness, racistness,
all this is, you know, family ties, family matters, things
like that. It was great, It was it was It
was a good one. Let's go to break and when
we come back, I have some questions for you. I
(40:46):
don't know. And we are back, folks, It's time for
the mess around. Let's mess around a little bit, shall we.
Let's go ever, form a friendship with an ex's X
or stay friends with your ex's friend.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
No, never, No, I have had an ex's X reach
out and be like that guy is the worst, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Like yep, yeah that's not it.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
That's as far as like any bonding what is to
be Like we both made a huge mistake at some
point in our life.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I once bonded, oh with a young lady that used
to date this guy that my girlfriend cheated on me with.
Make that makes sense?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I honestly, honestly, my brain just went full Claar Dane's homeland.
I was just like, I need a board, I need pictures,
I need string, I need thumbtacks.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
So there's there's lights go down my relationship. Yeah, there's
there's my relationship, and then there was his relationship. Let's
say I'm one dude. He's one dude. I have a girlfriend.
Yeah he has a girlfriend. Okay, my girlfriend and that dude,
yeah hooked up. Okay, So I hooked up?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh okay with his girlfriend. Oh, Shania Twain, you a
Shana Twain?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is that what that is?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Isn't that Twain did dit a swap?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Shania Twain her husband? I feel like this is true right?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like they were best friends with another couple, and then
Shania Twain found out that her best friend and husband.
We're having an affair and they ran off together and
then she ended up and is still with I think
her best friend says they just did a swap all that,
but that happened, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Next question, Okay, Nick is a horrible liar? Do you
know anyone like that? Do I know?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I know a lot of horrible liars. I know so
many horrible liars, but.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Horrible like not like he lies too much? No, I like, Oh,
you can't lie to save your life, Like you're really
bad at.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm very good at identifying tells. And if I once
I know your tell, it's all over. Okay, I'm very
good at sleuthing on a lie. Yeah, because I'm a
great liar.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Before I lie, go like this, you know it's covering.
You know it's covering.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I can tell if you're lying, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I can't help it because there's always a bit with
me lying, Like I'm going to tell you at some
point that I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
You get excited to lie, that's your problem, that's your tale.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You get happy.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, you're too happy to tell me what you're about
to tell me. It's gonna be a lie.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, so Nick's dad is so charming but always disappoints.
At what point do you stop believing in someone?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh my gosh, this is such a good Full Circle
Podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Maya Angelou. The first time someone shows me who they are.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I believe that's true.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm here for like third, fourth, fifth tries.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It takes me a while because that's because my father
left and I'm lacking. So therefore I give people eighteen chances,
but on that nineteenth you're dead to me. Okay until
you come back.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, you are very forgiving. I will say this someone
who's known you a long time and watch you in
your circle of friends. You are incredibly forgiving, almost to
a fault.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
It can't help it. I love people, you know, and
sometimes sometimes people just need. The Bible says let your
light shine. So sometimes you know, I can't. I can
lead you to water sometimes, but I can't make you
drink it.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
We're about to horse jokes. This is like a perfect episode.
I'm very happy about this, that's right.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, So sometimes I'll just provide water and if you
feel like drinking it, sure, but you don't have to.
You know what I'm saying. You don't gotta drink that water, okay,
because who knows, maybe that water got.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Pee in it, all right?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Or see you think you got me. I'm not doing
that in the water. You think this is salt burn?
What in the saltburn are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Is not the horse juice in the water where the
horses drinking from?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Anyway, this whole episode is a mess around. Yes, somebody
make a egst.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Thank you all for listening. We love you. Please be
sure to follow us on Instagram at the mess Around
Pod and we'll be back next week with episode two
fourteen Pepperwood, Pepperwood. That was the mess around. This has
been an iHeartMedia production. Our executive producer is Joel Monique.
Our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor. Additional production from
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Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Shevron. Our theme song
was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So we're
gonna catch you next time. Bye,
I want you to know something, Hannah, Jake doesn't respect you.
Jake Johnson doesn't respect you. He doesn't he doesn't respect anybody,
but mostly women he doesn't respect. So I want I
want all the fans out there to know I, as
a man, yeah, respecting value women. Jake Johnson as the
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little boy doesn't respect the value of women because he
doesn't respect himself.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is feels just between you and Jake.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, I just thought that you could put that out there.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It just feels like this is a bit now that
is going to go back and forth between our podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, so instead of listening to We're Here to Help,
you should listen to The mess Around and also the
The Morning After the Morning After podcast. I just it
doesn't mean why listen to anything else, especially someone who
doesn't respect women. Babe, yeah, babe.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Should we talk about a father's love?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We should? Come on now, we should.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I want everybody to gab now, mesud, we should talk
(01:21):
about a father's love.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
This episode two thirteen of Father's Love. I gotta say,
you know, this episode was it's you know, new girl.
Obviously very slapsticky, very sometimes can be uh not cheesy,
but like can't be. You know, it's a funny show.
It's a it's a hard comedy, but if you want
(01:44):
in a while, I don't know, some real emotional stuff
can come out of it. In this episode in particular
hit me because of well, you know, for obvious reasons.
You know, I had daddy issues, and watching it, I
was like, dang it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
They really got like Winston in the mix of it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, did they know anything about your personal story?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't know. I don't think so. I mean I
made a lot of job, improvised a lot of jokes
about it. So I on the day, on the day,
whenever stuff would come up, I would go, man, you know,
I ain't got no dad like I would say that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I think they started writing towards it the same
way they did. You know, we would talk about Chicago,
and you know it's like, oh, now your character. That's
how we got to fit it together. The Bulls, the Bears, Chicago,
like our real lives are part of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Can I tell you how unprofessional I am or hyper
professionally am You just said the Bears and I went.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Bear, Oh lord, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh I'm like a kid with like squirrel. I just
got like personally excited about like a mention of the bear.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Stop.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm so sorry. I'm paying attention to what you're saying,
and it's very heartfelt. I just got a personal moment
of excitement in my body.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Hanna, my dad died. How do you feel now.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Sad about your dad? Happy about the bear mention?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
A dickhead? Wait?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So, but I'm being serious.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So, because this was written by Melmoth and Merkley Johnson
and two of our greatest writers on New Girl, do
you think that they knew anything of your own personal
story beforehand? Or this was just one of those weird
art imitating life kind of coincidences and you're just kind
of like in it beforehand.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm not too sure, unless you know I would. I
would have real conversations with Breton Dave, like genuine like
my family, you know, conversations with them. So maybe they
brought that to the writer's room. It wasn't like, hey,
I'm telling you this in private. It was just like, yeah,
this is you know, I haven't seen my father in
you know, X amount of years, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I do remember Breton Dave talking a lot in
season one about using what they like, the actors' stories
and what they have, so you see, you know, a
lot of Zoe kind of woven in with Jess myself.
Like I think they did use people's stories so that
that was something that was shared.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Then Yeah, there's actually a good.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Chance, which is real. It is weird because me personally
excellent basketball player, one of the best of all time,
but yet they rarely showed it. In fact, they made
fun of my basketball ability on the show, which I
thought was weird.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, but they did also establish you as a
professional basketball player.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, but like the worst professional.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Basketball but like the best in like Latfia.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But the worst on the Latfia team. That's the way
it made it. See made the team. I made the team. Yes,
maybe I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Just trying to positive spin you right here.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think there was I made it tame because of
something political or I had black I had blackmail on someone.
That's why they were like I let them black.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
All right, let's dive into this episode.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Hit me with that recap.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, so here's the deal. We got an exciting episode
for you. We got we're going to talk about spying
on significant others. We're going to talk about to being
friends with your ex and of course do buy horse juice.
Of course we'll get into that. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Life is called juice. I just want to say.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Horse juice. Oh okay, boy Seaman. This episode written by
Liz Merriweather Berkeley Johnson, Josh Melmoth, and of course directed
by the wonderful Jake Kasden. So in this episode, Nick's dad, Walt,
played by the magnificent Dennis Farina Rip he surprises him
by showing up unannounced at the loft. Now, I don't
(05:35):
know if you guys remember, but he is a con
man for sure, and he quickly charms Jess into buying
a horse, as a con man would do. And you know,
you know he's good because it ain't easy convincing somebody
to buy a horse. Anyway, Jess is fixated on trying
to repair the relationship between Nick and his father. Meanwhile,
Schmidt enlists some help from Robbie in order to devise
(05:57):
a plan to win CC. Predictably, every plan ends with
Schmidt winning CC back and Robbie getting kicked to the
curb and or dying. So that is the episode in
a nutshell. I normally we would go from top to
I just have to say something before I forget it.
White man, white guy power.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I would to shout it too.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I was just like, man, the fact that it's also
written by two white men.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They're like, you know what, yeah, because everyone, let me
tell you something. Everything. I know it's written in comedy,
but I got a feeling. I gotta feeling somebody was
feeling something. Berkeley and Josh, I'll got some explaining to you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Honestly, I forgot all about it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I don't know why, because I'm in a scene where
I'm standing surrounded by brown people. Yes, and they shouted it, yes.
And I had a feeling because that was a really
packed room in that scene. We'll get to it, but
I have a feeling that not everybody understood the bit.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So they're just in a.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Room, oh my gosh, of.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Two guys very unapologetically and enthusiastically.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Saying white guy power. And my favorite part about that
is Schmidt telling Robbie, He's like, you gotta stop, that's
kind of racist. And I go, after all the shit
you said, what are you talking about now? You now
you draw the line concern? Yeah, he's concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I totally forgot about it, and I went like
out loud when I saw it, I was like, oh,
oh wow, I think I think I blocked that one out.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, so let's let's jump right into it. Jess Winston Nick.
They're all at the table Lian Schmidt and they're playing
Peely Cup, Pely Cup, Peely Cup. And it's a game
where you stick your hand inside to something and guess
what's in there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Don't I'm not okay, all right, here's what I'm going
to say. I feel like if somebody was like, let's
play feely Cup, I would be like, I it's that time. Yeah,
I gotta go. I'm not doing I don't. I do
not trust people.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Don't don't play that game with me because I listen.
I I like Winston. I'm terrible at prank, so I
might put something in there.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Like I know you would. You'd put like like a
like something a live or a bug or.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Something that's at That's why I never never I had
an idea for the episode today of like let's play
Philly Cup, and then I was, look at your face,
that's correct. I was just like, you know what, we
have a good friendship going. Yeah, it's decades strong. I
don't want to lose it. Yeah, over what you put
in a cup.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Let this be a lesson to all you folks out there, ladies,
especially if you go to the movies with a with
a young man and he buys popcorn, he says, you
wanna he gets one. He said, let's play a little
feey cup. Because he's a new girl friend. Don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't trust him.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Run because.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's what's in that bucket of yes exactly. We can
beep that out if we get it. Acter we can,
but you know, algorithms, algorithms and such. I don't want
to get shadow banded. Yeah, you can say potus Okay.
So when they're playing fieldy cup, that's when Walt decides
he's he's showing up. He just rolls in the house
(09:14):
and uh to Nick surprise, there there his dad is,
there's his dad.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And then Nick goes and does something that I can
totally understand, which he does angry fixing. H Yeah, when
you're frustrated, do you like to just go and like
physically exert yourself to like deal with the feeling in
your body?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Angry fixing? When I get frustrated, you know what I do, well,
I get on the apps. Oh and then I call
a task rabbit to fix stuff for me while I
just angrily stare at him. Got it, Yeah, that's what
I do. And never get these hands dirty, never.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Think so I'll go to that task rabbit. Come in here.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
The outlook cover right there is loose loose fix that
got it?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And like I don't even know, like early high school
watching someone got so frustrated, like a kidneer school, and
he punched a stop sign.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
How you get up there?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Jumped?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Now genuinely, that's my thought. Now, it's not like that
kid had anger issues. I'm like, hops, did you make that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Work for you?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Is he? Bro skill? I know that's insane. If you
punched a stop sign your drift to a neighborhood you
see holes in the stop sign, No, those are bullet holes.
That's the neighborhood you don't want to be in. It's
the future. Also for you fans out there, if you're
in the wrong neighborhood you see holes in the stop sign,
turn around, go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's your public service announcement right now, I love.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Giving public service announcement. We're not just a podcast recapping
New Girl. We're also out here teaching, trying to make
the all the better place.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We find out the nickname of Nick's opening from the dad.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It couldn't be a worse nickname. It's just so direct
and factual.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Unless and you know, unless you're like you have like
a big guy, they call him tiny? Was that tiny? Yeah?
I know, that's just it. That's just my excuse.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So you think he it was not true, or the
dad just was doing it to torment him, or because
he was little and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It was you it was little. You ever see that
video of the kids making Oh no, It's like it's
like four or five kids outside playing and he's like,
he's like, man, that's what you got, a little dick?
He goes, oh no, man, I am a child.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Props to proportion, Yeah, sometimes when you were like I'm proportionate?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
What Yeah? So what I love about this there's a
couple of things going on here. Schmid is calling Walt
a con man. Yes, Winston's like, no, he's a businessman.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And I and the reason for that because Schmid can,
I mean, they both can see that. However, Winston is like,
you'll you find out later on that he has some
stuff with his dad, so he's like, at least he's
doing something and pops up every once in a while.
My dad has never popped back up at all, so
he appreciates him. And because he was around more than
his own father when he was a kid, he calls
(12:11):
him pop pop, which is so weird because, first of all,
you know, a white guy wrote this, because black people,
we don't call nobody pop pop. But I said it.
I didn't correct them.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's on me looking back. Now, would you say something
now and be like, we're not calling this I'm not.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Calling this man pop up? I'd be like, pops.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah, I thought it was strange when you said it.
And now maybe it's because I know you well enough
to know like that doesn't want to come out of
his mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I didn't. That is again, we're still in the second
season where I felt performance wise, I wasn't one hundred
percent comfortable in my skin on the show.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
How did you feel when you met Dennis Freina because
he's like an icon.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah it was. It was. He's a Chicago guy as well,
so you know, there was that where I felt comfortable
enough around him but he's also a different part of
town Chicago, old guy hard knows, you know, kind of
used to be a cop. So there was there was
that level of like, you know, him also being an
acting legend. I was like a little nervous, you know
(13:13):
what I mean. But he was super cool, except for
when Schmidt or Max and Jake were making those like
peeping Tom jokes. What you remember those peeping Tom jokes.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I wasn't in those scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh my gosh, who other Oh we got to unpack
this one. Jake might help unpack this one too when
he's on the show. But so Dennis used to be
a detective, right, and Max had this bright idea that
he was gonna ask and I'm just I'm just you know,
this is uh, I'm loosely telling the story. Dennis was
(13:46):
a detective in Chicago back in the seventies. Max had
this bright idea to ask him, Hey, man, when you
were like doing surveillance, did you ever have seen any
naked ladies? Oh? God, yeah, I just looked at him.
It was like, no, what's your problem? Oh hated Max.
The rest of the shoot, Oh no, Max was doing
(14:10):
a bit. They were trying to be funny and it
was it was it was Jake and Max Max. Jake
was kind of selling out Max a little bit, like
setting him up for failure. And that's what he did.
He set him up for failure. Wowow Olivia, I think
I want to say, was that. I think Olivia was
there at one point too. Olivia mon was there too
when it happened, and she started like leaning into it,
(14:31):
like to set Max up again for more failure.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yep, should have known better.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
He should have known better. Yeah, he should.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's a vibe check at that point, asking her cool
birk at the job man, share the naked lady stories.
I get the body here, gosh, all right, Okay. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
Schmidt is spying on Cci, who is on a date.
(14:59):
That's what they think she's on. She's actually meeting family
members of someone perspective okay, and bumps into one of
my favorite Nelson Franklin Robbie also spying. Yes, there was
something so funny about the idea. I remember shooting that scene.
It was in that little courtyard on the Fox lot
(15:19):
of when I read it, of having like her two
ex's finding common ground and just defeating the other. Yes,
so they could just get back to at least the
two of them, to douke it out that I loved
so much, so much?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What is it like the enemy of my enemy as
my friend. That was the whole storyline.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Oh yeah, the thing about these two, it's so strange.
I don't think I've ever had this in my life before,
because I am friends with some guys who we've dated
the same person, But it's never like that. It's never
been like we're bonding over her, you know what I mean?
Like that's never been.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Have you and nobody been in love with the These
men are in love, want to get married and spend
the rest of their lives with CC. That's a different
thing than like we dated somebody. Like they both have
like their whole life plan laid out in their head
with her.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm starting to realize this says a lot about CC. Yeah,
why are you keeping these people around? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
How she keeping anybody?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She's out there at a cafe meeting someone and stalkers.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Clearly your locations were still on.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think they follow her.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think that they don't have real jobs and they
just follow her around all day like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Creep that's creepy. Yes, that's creepy because at least with
Schmidt his you know, he lives in the loft where
your best friend lives, right, so at least he kind
of still you. You are always around. You are in
every episode, so you're always around.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Robbie's not but even Robbi doesn't Robbie turn out to
be like Jess's cousin.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah so, but you know, hello, you know what I'm saying.
That does new that's a new Developments.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Just selling else okay to her roommate and Couzy.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That could be it. That solving crimes, Oh yeah, that's
what we do here. We don't just recap New Girl
or give excellent advice.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
We also self crimes, self crimes and irk former police officers.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yes, oh god, we're going to go to break you guys.
But when we come back, remember never forget.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, all right, and.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We are back and I'm excited to be back. Hannah,
Yeah me too. Yeah, you don't why why? I don't know,
So I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We're having one of those things.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, so we can't go through life alone. Man, all right.
Diving back into the episode, They're going to buy a horse. Yes,
this is the con he's running right now, right, Walt
wants to buy a horse. He needs help, he needs assistants,
and he spots a mark.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
In jest old blue Eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Old blue Eyes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
She's gullible, Yeah, right, like she truly is. Yeah, I
think that's adorable. At the same time, people will take
advantage of you, as we see in this episode.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well she kind of runs on that thing of like, well,
see the best in people and give them a shot,
and it doesn't really apply in this scenario. No, No,
I don't feel like that's my motto. I'm not looking
around trying to find the best in people.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I'm more like the Maya Angelou saying, which is
like when people show you who.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They are, kill them in their sleep, believe them.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, doesn't want to murder.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, I don't know. You never know what she did.
You know she could not hear? Mrcan fools. Can you
imagine if Maya Angelou is a serial killer on a twist?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You dare talk about Ma Maya like that?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I know why?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Okay okay.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We also find out that Winston is still owed eleven
hundred dollars from Waltz Yes, which made me think about
if someone owes you money, have you ever forgotten about it?
Does it say like front of mine? Now when ever
you see them, are you just going to ask for like, hey, Bud,
you forgot you're only like five hundred bucks? Or just
(19:20):
let shit slide.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I gotta say I've loaned a lot of people money. Yeah,
and it it is something that I'm trying to go
back on. But I don't. I don't remind people of it.
I don't. I don't. You know there used to be
there used to be a way I would go about
doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know I if you needed something, I would say,
talk to my business manager. Oh, they'd make you sign
something and come up with a payment plan. Oh wow.
I don't do that with family anymore. Yeah, just because
I just don't do it. I just it's yours. It's
if I'm giving you money, it's a gift.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know. So with friends who borrow money, I don't
remind them. But my business manager does you.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Got a middleman?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I have a middle man. I have a middle man,
and it doesn't they don't always pay. My business manager
knows like they might not pay you back. We're not
going to come after them. He's like, this is just part.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Of right, you know, this is to encourage good behavior, right,
And but a lot of them might be like Walt,
who They're just like, well, yeah, that was your choice
and you kind of know what I'm about.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And some of them and some of them are I
feel like with any case of Winston and Walt, Winston
is seeing the good in him, so he's like, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna ask him for it, because
you know, there's more to He has a bigger value
in my life than he probably knows. That's right, So
I'm not gonna harass him for eleven hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I thought that was actually a really sweet moment between
you and Jake when Nick is going off about like
how like bad his dad is, and then Winston goes like.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, but at least he's here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, like appreciate what you have because this could be different.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Friend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, yeah. In that scene, this is where you know,
going back to the top of the episode, what we
talked about, Yeah, this is that that moment watching that
scene was when it hit me. I was like, man,
that's my life, Like that truly, that truly is my life.
And if I wish that I could go backwards and
obviously forgive my father without him, you know, without him
(21:25):
stepping forward first, without him extending the olive branch first,
because you know, once he passed away. I was like, damn,
I you know I should have you know what I mean?
That doesn't make sense, like too, because I'm even though
I went through what I went through as a kid,
I'm still a grown man now. I should be able
to figure it out and like move past it to
(21:45):
try to mend that relationship. But I never did. And
watching this episode, I was like, damn, this is like
this is I remember that moment of filming that, like
feeling that you know, never and then never shooting it
and then never going out and actually extending an olive
branch to my father. I never did that, and you know,
you regret it. But that's why this episode was like
(22:05):
a weird one for me watching it.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I can't imagine being in the moment, like did it
feel therapeutic or did it feel more like awkward Because
you're having a bunch of people stand around and it's
way deeper for you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's probably more awkward than anything. Not not therapeutic at all,
not not not therapeutic. But I use I use comedy
to move past it. Like that's why I say, I
make a lot of jokes about it, but like, yeah,
it affects me. It has affected me in my life.
But you know, we we we plow ahead obviously, Yeah
and so yeah, but I having all I'm sure the
(22:38):
crew members and everybody was weren't like, man, this he
must be talking about his really sure. I didn't give
an Oscar worthy performance there.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was just you know, you know, I just don't
know if there was something like that kind of touched
a nerve that was deeper for me because I don't
know how fast though, you know, like how fast we
shoot all the silly bits that are happening of I
then would want to be put in a position where
then I had to like talk through something where those
words had real weight and like a silly scene, you know,
I think that would be really hard. And when I
(23:07):
watched it, because I know all the stuff, I was
just like, wow, I can't I just can't imagine on
the day you know you're gonna have to go step
out there and kind of do it. But it landed,
and I think it probably made a difference to people
that were watching it to be like, Okay, it might
not be perfect, but appreciate who you have and how
they're showing up even if it isn't ideal.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
At least they're there.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah. Yeah, the New Gol writers did a good job
of fucking with me, So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We plow ahead, We plow ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So they're at this they're at this racetrack.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, they're at the racetrack.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
That was the me. See I wrote this down there.
That was the I believe we were at the Santa
Anita Racetrack. Which is interesting because Dennis was also on
a show called Luck. Oh yeah, shot at the same place.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Wait wasn't luck though, like the unluckiest show that ever happened,
and it got shut down because all these horrible things
are happening to the horses and crew members.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, somebody, I think people. Somebody died.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I don't want to And multiple things though happen on
this show called Luck.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, which is odd, odd, very odd.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I remember then.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I forgot about it until you just said it. But yeah,
oh strange. I wonder how he felt being back there.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, and yeah, we were sitting down when you're shooting
with somebody that you admire. I hate small talk with him.
Oh yeah, I just I'm not a I don't know
what it is. I think I have a social anxiety.
In those moments, I start to like tense up, and
I don't want to have a casual conversation. I'd rather
keep a professional and then maybe if something organic happens.
Sure between tanks. We were sitting next to each other
(24:52):
and I was forced to talk to him, and I
did not make a fool of myself, but in my
mind I was. I was like I was al was
second guessing every word that came out of my mouth
and overthinking it. And it was in that moment where
he told me he'd been there before, he had filmed
there before. I was like, oh, well, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
He didn't share the rest of it. He was just like,
I've shot here before.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I think he I think he did talk about how
it was shut down, but I don't I don't recall
exactly what that conversation was. I just remember that was
the same place.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
What a surreal moment for him. You both had surreal
moments at the racetrack. He's back there on the show
talking about horses.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, trying to get lucky with it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I know, weird? Are you a weird?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Are you a horse person?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Really, nope.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I always had like a really deep fear of horses
because when I was young, I read, I was like
so obsessed with Superman and I remember like seeing in
the news what happened to Christopher Reeves and I was like, all,
horse did that to Superman? And I was like, I
don't mess with horses then, and I never have.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You should have. So a horse did to that one
dude in h two guys, one horse.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, I will never see what happens to that guy
with the horse. I can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Don't look that up.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I will never look that up.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do not look that up.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
No, nobody looked that up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
These four horses out of it.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh so, by the way, real question is horse semen
like a huge valuable commodity.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I would imagine it is because people breed people breed
horses and they need that golden It's what is it? Eugenics?
What is what do you call that? What's the word
I'm looking for? Eugenics when you're breeding based off of
like genetics and you're making sure that they listen. Sorry,
to bring it to this, but it goes back to
(26:42):
like slavery days, probably even before that, where it's like
the strongest top and then you would breed so you
can have these. It's what Kyle always says. Kyle's always like,
I'm dating some I I prefer my women to be
five nine and up so we could breed NBA players.
He's like, so, my my wife is gonna be tall
(27:02):
so our kids can go bro.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I just want to say that Kyle is in the
room right now. Kyle, this is your chance that's true
or not. It's factual.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's factual.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, all right, okay, I'm making that.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Tall queens you know whose dms to slide into, just.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Saying trying to have you.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
If you make the cut, you can DM.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I felt like that's how it is with horses.
They breed to have the best horse, the best race horse.
That makes sense, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All right, okay, so he thinks he's foundly a horse
that's got that good good and he's trying to sell it.
Yeah all right, okay. I didn't know if that was
like a weird thing too. I don't know it was real.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know a lot about horse semen shocking.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And I have a question for you. Yeah, did you
find the bear bear? Still bear?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
If I one in this episod when you said it
earlier on and then I was really unprofessional.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I got really excited about it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
But I know you're not talking about the podcast episode
of A Father's Love. You're talking about the actual New
Girl episode of A Father's Love. And I am dying
to distract you by saying lots of words really fast
to make you think that maybe I found it, But
the only one I found is the one on the fridge,
as we know, does not count.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It does not count. And you're letting me. You're not
just letting me. Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Season two is a little bear less?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I want to say, but that doesn't mean just because
like like if ninety five percent of the time in
our one hundred and something episodes, I find the bear
that proves more than not my bear theory, Okay, And
I'm sorry. In season two they were just like, there's
so many horses in this one, we can't squeeze in
a bear.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What Okay? Your math a mathon what I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Too many horses means not enough bears for this episode.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, enough horsing around. I'm just trying to tell you.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now I had.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I would say clap fifteen success rate on finding the bear.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Season Jew has been tough. I no, I've really do
this bit live. We need callers to call in and
be like, here's the bear. I need support.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh my goodness, let's go to break and we're back.
If you're just tuning in, Hannah yet again, do not
find the bear? So she is? So she is over.
She's okay. If this was baseball, you would be in
the Hall of Fame. I think you're bat in about
three three fifty. So where are we at. We find
(29:31):
ourselves in a little conundrum here. Yeah, Walt's got a deal. Yeah,
he finds Jess. Yeah, he gets her to do the
whole little thing that makes everyone turned off by the horse, right,
it works. So now he's going to go and sell
it to some I think Russians where they Russian.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
They're Russian Ish, Russian Ish.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I forget Russian esque. Yeah, and Nick is like, I'm
coming along now. Interesting enough. I believed Walt. I was like,
I think he's going to go and make some money
and bring her.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Back what's really crazy is I actually did too, and
then I realized we're suckers. We are we really are suckers,
because I was like, you know what, that does look
like a good horse. Yeah, I feel like this could
be like the one time he actually works it out,
and I.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Was like, this is how he gets yet exactly. And
then Nick pardoned my friends. But he looks it up.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, that part was kind of sweet because he really
was like, I want to like bond with my dad
and this is the thing we used to do, and
I'm going to be an asset. I'm going to help.
And he is the opposite of helpful and ends up
naked dancing in a parking lot, sweating profusely.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I once, as a six year old went with my
dad on a drug deal. So I get it. You
know I was trying to help him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Were you helpful at all?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Not one bit?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, I remember you telling me that story for the
first time. Yeah, I remember you telling me that story. Yes,
I feel the same region my help. Okay, so he goes,
he screws it up, he sweats, He screws up the
whole deal, which causes a real like face to face
moment between father and son.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes, yes, it does.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Where they start to tell their truths.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, which is always needed. It is you. You just
got to get it out there and you could take
that with you. I'm gonna say what I gotta say. Yeah,
you don't have to respond right now, but at least
you know that's that's exactly how I feel. Yeah, And
it's not left to because a lot of times we'll
do something, or we might be in a relationship or
friendship and we'll do something and then we kind of
(31:36):
leave it alone and think that the other person hasn't
been affected by it, or because they haven't brought it up,
like they don't care. Yeah, but you know, you gotta
put it out there and be like, hey, listen, this
made me feel like this, this ain't right or blah
blah blah blah blah. I'm good, I'm over it. However,
you know what you're gonna do with that information.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, you should just be aware, this is my truth
exactly anything from you, but this is my truth. That's
what happens. That's what happens in this episode. That's the
moment that Jess kind of forces to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Have happened, which is so weird because she clearly cannot
get out of that parking lot. Just walk to the
car and get it out.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It brought back so many flashbacks because I am a
self proclaimed not great driver, and watching her try to
maneuver the trailer, I was so scared. I remember seena
to shoot with Max where they gave me some like
fancy little BMW and I was supposed to like reverse
and then drive away quickly. And I was like in
(32:36):
a state of panic because I was like, I there,
what how could you have? I'm gonna what do I hit? Max?
When I had this whole meltdown and Max had to
come over and be like okay, and I was like
the he mean heels, I.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can't do this Max. I was like, I'm a terrible.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Driver, Hannah. Yeah, what are you saying to the people
out there?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The truth?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm saying my truth okay, and they don't have to
do anything with it. Why accept who?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
And I love myself?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Anna? Why are you out and these Why are you
out on these roads?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I will say once it's kids out there.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I had to park like at a target and it
was a tight spot between two cars, and I saw
a gentleman who was asking for money outside of the Target.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
So park my car and I'll give you a quarter.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I asked for help parking my car.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You gotta be shitting.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
And I came back and I told my day. He's like,
how to God.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I was like good.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I was like, a gentleman, help me park my car.
He goes, you gave the keys to my car.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Wait, he helped you by driving it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We got in the car park, gave him my car,
and I just stood on the corner and we we swiped,
We swatched, we swatched spots.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's my time. Yeah, you can keep the coffee.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I got help. I needed help, and I got help.
I thought that was industrious, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What I got help?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Hannah? That Hannah. I'm from this moment on. Yes, I'm
judging you on such a level. I'm not gonna respect
you the way I used to.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I was pretty low. Anyway, Oh my gosh, I needed help.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You needed help park it at Target. There was one
spot left that's right and all of Target and you
couldn't get in it. So the man asking for change,
you were like, ah, let's make an exchange park. Here
are the keys to my car. Man who probably hasn't
driven the car and I don't know how long because
this man is homeless, like he's he's so you tease
him a little bit. Hey getting to this. I know
(34:33):
you got a fancy car. Get into this, uh Rose
Royce really quick and uh just parallel park that for
your girl. Haha. Here's a quarter for your trouble.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I did not give him a quarter, did you give him?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And I don't twenty? That mean that that's a good
amount of money. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And I said thank you, and he looked he was
thrilled to drive.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
He said, yes, Sannah, he was thrilled to be in
the car.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Hannah, that's so messed up. We had a well what
that's why going on.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm going to see someone and based on their condition
and like be like, no, I don't think that you
can help me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm going to ask about this. That's teasing him.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Judging I needed help.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's teasing him, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Men, and he helped.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's like me sitting in one of those fancy restaurants. Right,
You're sitting one of those fancy restaurants and you're outside
and a way that comes and he gives you your
very expensive forty three dollars soup and it's too hot,
and you say, hey, homeless man, you want to come
blow on this soup for me?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Girl who was about to damage some cars, and a
very kind gentleman who may not have been employed in
that moment.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Of his life help me. Thank you, sir, I appreciate you.
He's in that man's a judgment.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Hey, hey, man who doesn't have a home and who's
going through a lot. Please, my refrigerator is broken in
my home. Can you please come inside of my home?
Open it up, see all this delicious food. Close it,
but make sure you she fixed the coolant system in it.
It didn't get out.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I mean you could take you could take us all
the food you would.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Want to then go back to the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You should have moved that man in.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I feel like this should be like an online poll.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Was it so wrong to ask for help? And I
needed help from someone who was willing to help?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Okay, Hannah, Okay, Hannah, this I've disgusted.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
This is, by the way, conversations that Lamourna and I
would have all the time at work raging back. So
why are you guys yelling at each other? What are
you fighting about? He's like, she lives on another planet.
I was like, you live on another planet. And that
was ten years of working together. You guys just had
an insight to our mornings at work. Literally that He's like,
what did you do yesterday? I was like someone that
we part my car and we scream at each other
(36:41):
for the rest of the day about what an idiot
the other person was. Oh, Mike, that's the foundation of
our friendship pretty much. I can't believe I've never told
you that story before. It's like twenty years old, but
this true story.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I think about it this day.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He was so mad. This is what, this is why,
This is why it frightens me that I have a daughter,
because you are somebody that in life will be helping
guide her. Yes, you're like an auntie. You're going to
be like, yeah, you know. But now I'm like, no.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Things have worked out pretty well for me.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I let's say stay away from my child, weirdo. Let's
get have her out.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And ask people for help. You don't judge them on
your job. You come talk to your auntie, don't listen
to your daddy right now.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
So a couple funny moments that we want to talk
about white guy, white guy power, white guy.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Power, white eye power.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So set the scene for us. What's what's happening?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't know, but the fact that these two exes
have bonded on the fact that they're white, Yes, and
they were going to have power in destroying their ex
girlfriends questifying love with a brown man. Yes, and this
did not get our show canceled in anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Is phenomenal work work.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
White eye Power is so funny to me that they
I just I remember at the time being like.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Just feel like we're going to get a note back
after the.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Table read no notes.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It stuck and it was screamed in a room full
of brown people that were completely unaware that this was
a bit.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes. And one of those brown people in that room
who knew it was a bit because he's one of
the producers and you know, executives on our show.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Puff and Chetty, Puff and Schetty is really Puff and Chetty.
That's not a made up name. That's Puven r Puven,
who was part of our show and very wonderful, smart,
attractive man, and they made him the apple.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Puff and Schetty of Schetty Solutions. What's what they called.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
It does bring up the question of broken hearted spye.
When you have been broken hearted, have you gone and spied?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, I've done that before. Me too, I've done that before.
Behavior not in like a professional way, because they are
professional ways to go about doing it. Now that I
am and now that I have means, there is a
way to go about Just hire people. Yeah, you hire
some Navy seals, spanks, military.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Come with you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Like my broken hearted spying was like when I was
in like middle school, and I was just like standing
by someone's locker.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh, that's not really spying, that's just you, And.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's that's just being a creepy middle schooler obsessed with someone.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
When you drive forty minutes to someone's home and be like,
who's over here? That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You've done that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
No, no, no, no, oh, not forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You're like thirty nine forty one. It's not get lost
in the details.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Who this parking lot?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
White guy power, you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
White guy power.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
This was a fun, weird, strange, heavy episode. Yes, And
I think it's one of those episodes for New Girl
that really had the fans fall in love with the characters.
There was like a lot of vunderability, a lot of lessons,
a lot of bonding. Yeah, I think that happened, and
I feel like we got a few of those every
(39:58):
season that just kind of stepped away from like the
big jokes and the big bits, and we really got
to know the characters and the relationship to each other.
And I kind of had forgotten about it, to be
honest with you, because my experience of this episode was
being locked in a room with a bunch of brown
people with two white guys screaming white eye power.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So getting to but.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Getting to rewatch it, I was like, this was actually
really important in like the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
This episode and encompassed everything New Girl is. Silliness, funniness, racistness,
all this is, you know, family ties, family matters, things
like that. It was great, It was it was It
was a good one. Let's go to break and when
we come back, I have some questions for you. I
(40:46):
don't know. And we are back, folks, It's time for
the mess around. Let's mess around a little bit, shall we.
Let's go ever, form a friendship with an ex's X
or stay friends with your ex's friend.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
No, never, No, I have had an ex's X reach
out and be like that guy is the worst, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Like yep, yeah that's not it.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
That's as far as like any bonding what is to
be Like we both made a huge mistake at some
point in our life.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I once bonded, oh with a young lady that used
to date this guy that my girlfriend cheated on me with.
Make that makes sense?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I honestly, honestly, my brain just went full Claar Dane's homeland.
I was just like, I need a board, I need pictures,
I need string, I need thumbtacks.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
So there's there's lights go down my relationship. Yeah, there's
there's my relationship, and then there was his relationship. Let's
say I'm one dude. He's one dude. I have a girlfriend.
Yeah he has a girlfriend. Okay, my girlfriend and that dude,
yeah hooked up. Okay, So I hooked up?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh okay with his girlfriend. Oh, Shania Twain, you a
Shana Twain?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is that what that is?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Isn't that Twain did dit a swap?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Shania Twain her husband? I feel like this is true right?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like they were best friends with another couple, and then
Shania Twain found out that her best friend and husband.
We're having an affair and they ran off together and
then she ended up and is still with I think
her best friend says they just did a swap all that,
but that happened, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Next question, Okay, Nick is a horrible liar? Do you
know anyone like that? Do I know?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I know a lot of horrible liars. I know so
many horrible liars, but.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Horrible like not like he lies too much? No, I like, Oh,
you can't lie to save your life, Like you're really
bad at.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm very good at identifying tells. And if I once
I know your tell, it's all over. Okay, I'm very
good at sleuthing on a lie. Yeah, because I'm a
great liar.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Before I lie, go like this, you know it's covering.
You know it's covering.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I can tell if you're lying, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I can't help it because there's always a bit with
me lying, Like I'm going to tell you at some
point that I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
You get excited to lie, that's your problem, that's your tale.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You get happy.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, you're too happy to tell me what you're about
to tell me. It's gonna be a lie.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, so Nick's dad is so charming but always disappoints.
At what point do you stop believing in someone?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh my gosh, this is such a good Full Circle
Podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Maya Angelou. The first time someone shows me who they are.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I believe that's true.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm here for like third, fourth, fifth tries.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It takes me a while because that's because my father
left and I'm lacking. So therefore I give people eighteen chances,
but on that nineteenth you're dead to me. Okay until
you come back.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, you are very forgiving. I will say this someone
who's known you a long time and watch you in
your circle of friends. You are incredibly forgiving, almost to
a fault.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
It can't help it. I love people, you know, and
sometimes sometimes people just need. The Bible says let your
light shine. So sometimes you know, I can't. I can
lead you to water sometimes, but I can't make you
drink it.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
We're about to horse jokes. This is like a perfect episode.
I'm very happy about this, that's right.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, So sometimes I'll just provide water and if you
feel like drinking it, sure, but you don't have to.
You know what I'm saying. You don't gotta drink that water, okay,
because who knows, maybe that water got.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Pee in it, all right?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Or see you think you got me. I'm not doing
that in the water. You think this is salt burn?
What in the saltburn are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Is not the horse juice in the water where the
horses drinking from?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Anyway, this whole episode is a mess around. Yes, somebody
make a egst.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Thank you all for listening. We love you. Please be
sure to follow us on Instagram at the mess Around
Pod and we'll be back next week with episode two
fourteen Pepperwood, Pepperwood. That was the mess around. This has
been an iHeartMedia production. Our executive producer is Joel Monique.
Our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor. Additional production from
(45:34):
Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Shevron. Our theme song
was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So we're
gonna catch you next time. Bye,
Hosts And Creators
Lamorne Morris
Hannah Simone
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Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!