September 19, 2024 • 58 mins
Loft meeting! June Diane Raphael, aka Dr. Sadie, is here, and she's not letting perimenopause stop her from telling us about her favorite memories of making New Girl. The number one lesbian gynecologist in our hearts joins Hannah virtually to discuss her time on New Girl. They chat about June's first time improvising, solve the infratructior struggles moms in the entertainment industry face, and answer your fan questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today we are having a loft meeting with the June
Diane Raphael aka a doctor Sadie. She was a dear
friend of Justin CC, a gynecologist, and most importantly, a lesbian.
She was featured in seasons one, two, three, and six,
doing a total of eight episodes, and one of the
most beloved characters of the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Hi Hi, Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Funny because I will say that I get recognized from
New Girl more than you would think, and I'm always like,
I don't look my hair's so different. I feel like
I don't look like the same person who was on
that show played doctor Sadie. But the number of times,
in in the randomest places, someone will come up to
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me and say and catch my eye from across it
happened we were a global entry flying back into the
country and someone shouted from like lines over doctor Sadie
and I was like, Hi, but it's it is well,
I don't have to tell you all, but wow, the
power of New Girl.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, What's what really shocked me was that when it
aired that it was like, you know, there was a
frenzy around it when it happened, but then during you know,
COVID it moved.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
To Netflix, and that's where yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, this whole new
crop of fans kind of showed up because they thought
it was a new Netflix show and they were consuming
it not week to week over eight years, like.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
In a week.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah yeah, and so it was like this thing they
just we're living with us so deeply and then repeating
the show. It became this comfort show, so people share
with us. And so I can imagine all of a sudden,
like doctor Sadie is like back in these streets she.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Is, and I that's so fascinating how that happens.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean I have been I was on a Netflix
series for seven almost eight years, and so I do
understand the power of Netflix because it's really and how
people consume it is so different from how like you
and I watched TV that like that consumption and how
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people just get it in their bones. It's just different
than waiting a week catching a rerun. You know. It's
like you are with your shows in a different in
a more intimate way.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean it changed, to be honest with you, like
how I started watching TV during like COVID.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
When we were all kind of locked down.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is I started to within with shows that were airing
week to week.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I would wait.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's terrible to say out loud, but I would wait
until they were like on the streaming service, and then
I could watch it in a night, like.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A yeah, yeah, I understand. You don't have to this
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It was just sort of like people like, are you watching?
I was like, no, don't tell me anything. Don't be
a terrible human, don't spoil it. I have to wait
two months.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I watched it in the night.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I will watch it when it's fully cooked. All of
the episodes are available to me.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's right, which then became the most annoying thing when
it would be like previously, you know, last week, I
was like, get out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Here with that noise. I was here one second ago.
You're wasting my time.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It is it's a it's a different it's it is
a different beast. And it's amazing though, how shows can
get new lives and it's very I think it's I
think that piece of it is so wonderful and toss
of like audience reach. It's it's really very cool.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know, doing New Girl was such
like a wonderful experience for me and so it's kind
of nice that we get to do this podcast now
where we get to kind of walk down memory lane
and relive it and learn all the stuff that we
genuinely didn't know because we were so in it. It
was super intense. I watched each episode as it came out,
(04:31):
but I've never rewatched it, like I've never done it.
And now we are and we're like, one, this is
actually like a pretty good show. Like we're like, okay,
we kind of get it now. And when we get
to talk to everybody and learn, especially learn like how
people we got these incredible people like yourself, like how
they got onto the show, like what was their path?
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And some of the paths have been so surprising to us.
We had no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So what was yours?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How did you find your way to doctor Sadie.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I was thinking about it and kinda of course, you know,
as I head into a perimenopause, like the brain's getting foggier, yay,
So put that disclaimer on the episode, like woman is
entering into a new hormonal phase of getting things. So
it's like, I don't know if it's long COVID, I
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don't know if it's pretty menopause, but things are falling
away at a rapid rate. But I knew I was
coming on to talk to you today and.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I was like, oh, I have this.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Memory of auditioning. Now, this could be wrong, but I
have a memory of auditioning two times for two different roles.
Now what they were, I don't know. I feel like
one was maybe the Lizzie Kaplan role. Oh yeah, But
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I don't know if that makes sense with season one,
because I know it was season one.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You're the drama chap right now.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Because this is exactly how I talk. I'm always like, listen,
I'm going to do my best. I'm going to tell
you everything as truthfully as I can't. It may be
a complete I may be fully making this up, but
I think this is how it goes.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But what's troubling too, is like I it's either so
truthful that you have to be like your savants and
have a photographic memory, or it's like I'm talking about
a different show.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That's right. I know it's gonna be so right or
so wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That I auditioned for maybe it was one of Max's
girlfriends on the show. I know I went in two
other times for two different roles, and the casting director
please remind who it was Anya, Yes, it was it
was Anya, of course, and the audition was you know,
sometimes you just have a good experience, you know, rarely,
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but sometimes, and god, I haven't been in a room
so long now, it's like not how it's done anymore.
But sometimes you just there's an ease to it. Am
I always I felt both times that I auditioned like, oh,
the writing is in my body, like I didn't. It
wasn't work to learn it, integrate it, you know, it
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was easy both times, which I think is always the
sign of good writing. When you really have to like
muscle to memorize lines. I'm always like, mmm, this this
is not the way people talk. So anyway, I had
auditioned twice, didn't get either role, and then I.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Believe again could be so true and could be.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Nothing, but but what I believe to be true in
this house, we believe that that I was then offered
doctor Sadie after having done like what I think was
a good job with both of those auditions. So anyway,
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so I believe that is what happened, that I was
then given, you know, offer the role which at that
time in my career was such.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
A big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I was about to say, wow, that's that's so wild
to me, right, because I don't feel.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Like, maybe not true. You know, if it's that wild,
it's probably not true.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No, I believe it though.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I believe it because I do feel like that's like
the gift of like a great those great casting directors,
and Anya's one of them where they go like, we
get it, we know what they're capable of. We don't
need to do the dance, we need to fill this role.
We have the person, and then they can take that
leap of trust. But I do feel like unless you
were like some mega A list star, it was quite
rare at that time to just like get an offer
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unless you were like fully established.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, you know, what's the story of my career, and
I say this without any shame. I'm thrilled about this,
is that my career has been built on people, other
actresses who are our bigger names, dropping out literally the
day before for unfrisseen circumstances and me getting a call
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like basically, can you show up tomorrow at six am?
And I'm always like yes, and then I get the job.
So it's you know again, and I have been very
happy to get jobs that way. You know, that is
not a problem for me. But I don't think that's
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what happens here. I think I genuinely shockingly. I think
I had been in contention for several other guest stars
and on the show and didn't get them, and then
they were like, well, she could do this. I'd have
to ask les Merriweather. But I believe that's what happened.
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It was so early on. I mean, here's the cool thing,
and this way, I hold the experience near and dear
to my heart. It was very interesting to be on
a show. Yes, it became it would go on to
become such a huge hit, but there was so much
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buzz around it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
There was so much expectation. It was like this it
was just a very cool show to be on.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And I remember being there and feeling like, oh wow,
this is an intense environment. I don't use the word
intense in a negative way. I just mean it was
like it felt like everybody knew that this was something.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's funny people talk about that about how they came
on set and the whole thing just.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Felt like very like electric.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, like it felt like this weird lightning and a
bottle thing goes happening, and it was exciting and you
got to be part of it and it's funny BECU
La morning and I talk about it right like for
me and for him too, it was like our first
real experience. And then there had been people had been
in the game longer than us and who had had,
you know, a variety of experiences. And I remember Max
(11:19):
saying to us going, yeah, it's not all like this,
just so you know, soa good up, because this is
not how it's always like when you get on a
set or you book a job or it's a show.
But for us, it's like you know, when it's all
you know right, so you know, the weirdest way. We
didn't feel it as much because for him and I
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because it was our first experience, so everything was just new.
The learning curve was steep. But it took, I would say,
a couple years for us to fully understand that we
are in this like very rare moment. And I remember
having a moment sitting on like that brown couch, the
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new Girl couch, And I don't know if you ever
have has like have this feeling in your life or
whatever where you're I just remember sitting there and whenever
they're setting up a scene or and I was like,
I'm here right now, and at some point this is
all going to go away, at some point, inevitably the
show end. It's not going to run for like nine
thousand years. And I was like, but it's happening now.
(12:26):
I'm here right now and really trying to like watch
like our first ad, running around like yelling, you know, resulting,
yelling for something you need to move faster, and like
all of the little things that were happening, and just
trying to like really like observe it. And I just
remember it really clear. And that was like maybe a
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couple years in though, but a lot of people who
had been in the industry longer were just like, oh no,
when you walked on that set, you knew this is
something unique.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, And my first day on set was not on
the Fox lot.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It was on location.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean maybe maybe the base camp was, but we
went to this like weird office building because it was
a scene that took place in my office where I
was checking out Jake Johnson for something. I don't remember
what it was, but and Zoe had brought him to me,
(13:25):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The cancer episode? And You're like, I'm a kind of
college Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right, got it, got it?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But that scene, well, first of all, I was directed
by Lynn Sheldon May she rest in Peace, and I
apps I was so excited to work with her because
I was I had seen hump Day only weeks earlier,
which is the movie she directed and wrote and was in,
I believe, and I thought she was a genius, and
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so I was so excited to work with her. And
what I and I knew Jake from UCB, so the
Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. And I don't think he and
I had ever necessarily like improvised together, but I knew
him from kind of improv community in LA. And I
just remember doing that scene and feeling like, oh, this
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isn't true of every set. Oh, Zoe wants me to
be funny, she wants me to do well. Lynn wants
me to do well. Jake wants me to do well.
Like there was this nobody was squashing my creative instincts.
And I think I had I think that I, you know,
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had also in the rehearsal or whatever improvised and I
think they realized like, oh, let her do what she not,
whatever she wants. But there was a spirit of like, Okay,
if if you can beat this or if you can
make this better than do it, you know, And it
was really thrilling to be a part of something like
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that where it felt like, no, the best thing wins,
not just the most important person in this room gets
to decide. So yeah, I was really like struck by that,
and I mean, the character is so not me, but
(15:30):
I loved playing that kind of like dry, understated, and
you know, it was just so much fun. But yeah,
that was my first experience and I thought, oh, I
guess that I did that, and I'll you know, I'll
never be seen or heard from. I mean, I think
don't we all feel that way as actors, Like, oh,
I just finished this job, I'll never I'll never work again,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
How we feel all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's that was nice And it's a rap on me, know,
it's a self wrap.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So just gonna get my car, drive off the lot.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, and I'll drive to another state and open up
a flower shop.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
But that's that. Life is done done.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know, And it's one of the it's one of
the crazy things about being an actor and.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Then I was like so happy to come back and
to you know, get to do more scenes.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And it's one of my You do two of my
favorite scenes. One where Schmidt shows up to ask if
he's good at sex, yes, and he's explaining all the
things and it's and it's turning you on to this
sane level, but also you're so angry because it's a
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man that's doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And the way you are in that scene even now.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It'll make me cry because I was because again I
haven't rewatched the show, so I get to watch it
just like a fan now because I'm so far from it,
and I was like in tears because that level it's
only only a real woman can understand, to be turned
on beyond a point where where you're not in control
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of the feeling, but also a very entitled and appropriate
rage towards this man.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
This person.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah can those two truths.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Can be true in that moment, and you play it
so beautifully and so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's one of my favorite.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And the other is when you're I feel like you're
at the in the Bachelorette episode and you're just hitting
on everybody and being like wildly like out of pocket,
right and would be fully canceled.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, well, I had the experience I think of being
pregnant my charac doctor Sadie was pregnant because Kate Hannon
was my wife's life girlfriend. But then I think I
was actually pregnant for the last one of the last
times I you know, you know what I realized an
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as I was sitting here, they actually did ask me
to come back for the like finale finale, and I
remember being asked to get on a horse. It was
a day on a horse in Malibu?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you this ringing about?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay? I remember being told maybe they rewrote this, maybe
it wasn't at all the last scripts.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We haven't gotten there yet. We're only on season two.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Watching this and like real time as we go, that's
so funny, that's.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So fun Okay, So well whatever, whatever the scene was, ok,
I really wanted to be in the I was like
so excited, you know, but I had just had a
C section and I remember you and I were talking
about motherhood before we started and the podcast, and I
remember having that moment of being like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Do I just try to do it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Do I?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Because I think as an actor. In this industry, there's
the constant battle as a mom of or at least
I fell speak for myself of like what do I
give to this town of myself because it's often taking
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away something from my kids? What do I Where will
I travel to? What will I what kind of hours
will I work? When I was breastfeeding and all that,
Like what kind of setting is this to even make
it possible.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
To work?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And you know, I mean New Girl had some intense hours,
and I know there were parents on that show, And
I've thought about that quite a bit because it's one
of of the things that I feel like our industry is.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So behind on where we you know, we have.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Intimacy coordinators and me too certainly opened huge conversations and
tackled so much. And also our industry does not acknowledge
the amount of labor women do in terms of primary
caretaking and their children and the hours that parents, I mean,
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I'll say parents across the board.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Put in.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, I've seen actresses literally like walk off sets
because they were having like mental breakdowns from being away
from their kids, not having seen their kids in five days,
and they live in the same house. You know, how
difficult it can be. And so this is like a
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constant battle, and it certainly was. It's easy or for
me now because I've been able to get clear on
a lot of these things and what you know, my
priorities are. But at the same time, like we've been
through two major labor movements and work as work and
I you know, people also need to work and so
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but I think there's so many strides that are industrying
needs to take when it comes to parenting, specially mothers
on sets, reasonable work hours, et cetera, because it is like,
especially for new moms, it becomes a mental health issue.
But at that time, so when I was offered to
come back, I remember staring at the email my agent
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calling me, and I was like, I'm still in like
the pair kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The vipers that.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
The mething mesh.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I'm still in the beloved cedar side mesh.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I loved those. I'm still in my mishundies.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm on some serious pain meds.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I have been told I cannot pick up my toddler.
I don't know if I should get on a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Again.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
What the scene was, what's coming to mind? And so anyway,
long story short, I said no, and.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I remember being like, Okay, I have two kids now
and I'm saying no now that I guess maybe it
was a clearer decision because it's like, well, I just
I don't think I can physically do it, but.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You know, these are the things that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Mother's really especially when so much work is out of
LA now that we really contend with, and in an
industry that's so competitive, and we're to just be so
grateful to get any job.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It's it's hot.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Man, it is hard, and I have been lucky to
work in LA for so many years. Wellly have to
travel a bit.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Don't you feel though there's like a shift though that
happens with work, when your priority shift in your own
life where so many of those jobs then come from relationships. Yeah,
I feel like from relationships and from people you can
speak to really honestly, and then you can like kind
of work around what is the best for what you're
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trying to balance in your work life family balance. Like
we had this conversation many times on Not Dead Yet,
a show I did with Gina because she did first
season pregnant, second season with a new baby, and it's
so funny because you can understand it intellectually, like if
you're listening to this and you don't have kids, you
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can get it and you can see that this is
not a fair situation from others that are working. But
then to have your baby and then to be on set,
it's like a whole new way because now you're experiencing
it and you're living it. And I remember the shock
that Gina was in and the big moves that her
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and I worked together on.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
To just like make sure that everybody was feeling safe
and good and we truly knew what.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Was important and not feeling like we had to apologize
or feel guilty for asking to take that right time
in space. And it felt like nothing had changed, you know,
from you know, decades ago. So it's challenging, and it
really does become about like your own personal boundaries and
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about having to say no. I remember watching all those specials,
remember on like E where I was like, where are
they now? And then they'd just talk about some like
sitcom actress or whatever, and they were just like and
she just did disappeared.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Nobody knows, like no, she just she had no choice.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I know, I know she had to raise her children.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And you didn't create a space for her to be
able to work in a way that was like where
she could survive as a human. So she had to
make the choice. She didn't want to stop working, but
the work environment is not built for mothers, especially of
young children.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So it's a It is interesting. It's funny because it says.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Here, I'm reading my notes that you were in season seven,
which is our final season.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, So maybe they shifted.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It or moved it or changed it to be like, okay,
so how do we Because I feel like Liz is
such a special, wonderful human that probably was like, oh, okay,
of that if she had that information like June physically
cannot do this, the mesh will not allow, and so
did she?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Did they come back? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So here's what I remember. I shot something because I
was actually in Boston shooting something else, and I believe
that I shot something on my iPhone that was going
to be shown in the Okay, So that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Was you But interesting, I get it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It was was maybe it was season six that would
make more sense.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Wasn't there something where like they thought this show was
going to end one season earlier?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, we were supposed to what ends and it was done,
and they were racing to shoot this coda because they're like,
I guess we got canceled, and they were just like,
we need to wrap up a whole series of this
beloved show, bonkers, And then all of us just had
to sit and write letters begging for a few episodes
so that we could close out the series with some
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respect and like really like that wild?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yes, it is wild.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Okay, this is all coming back to me, so sirless
Merriweather's going to fact check me. Yeah, no, I think
it was something like that where I I.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
God, why do I remember being asked to be on
a horse?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know that's too specific for me to have like
wildly made up, but yeah, it's so true. I mean
it is the same, Listen, it's the same reason why
you know, the women who do run for office either
don't have small children or you know, are old enough
that they have children who are out of the house
and don't have those like primary care taking needs anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
This is a reality where you see men. Listen.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I saw a lot of men on your show have
small children and work those hours. Okay, so it's just
a different beast. Yeah, and it we are this is
the last thing I'll say about it. But we are
supposed to. You know, if you look at the trajectory
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of how much money women make, we will make the
most money when we have our first children. Just timing wise, right,
and women are having children later and later, and that's
a trend that's probably only going to continue. We're not
going to go back to having kids when we're twenty one.
Most women are now waiting. But when we put all
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of that investment of our twenties and sometimes half of
our thirties into our career, you know, we at the
exact moment we should start to see the fruits of
it is when we're having our first children. And so
then we wonder, why are there no c suitet level women?
Why are there no you know, up and down the ballot,
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there aren't enough. It's like, well, well it's motherhood, dummies,
you know what I mean. And if we don't make
those adjustments, if we don't change like the infrastructure and
rebuild it so that it's there to support women of
small children, like, it's never going to change. Yeah, I'm done,
(28:58):
I'm going to stop recording. I'm going to it out
of here.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So all we have to do is change the infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, it's so simple, rebuilds and rebuilds.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I have to ask you these wonderful questions that came
in from fans. We've gotten so many questions over our
two seasons of doing this podcast about doctor Sadie, like,
how do you feel it yet? Facts they there's something
I think because she can be so scathing, and then
when she's drunk, she's just so wildly inappropriate that people
(29:37):
love her. And again, because she stayed in the universe, right,
she just kept coming back and showing up and had
these just these inappropriate, super funny moments, They've become iconic. Yeah,
so I'm going to read you some of these questions
from our beloved fans. So I love the episode Bachelorette
(30:02):
Party where Sadie encourages CC to pin the dong on Chevrang.
How do you feel about bachelorette parties? Is there a
game you love? And then they say, we're such a
big fan of your podcast, how did this get made?
How did you get started on that project?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Two separate things.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, I mean, I haven't been to bachelorett party in
a long time. I feel like that, you know, I'm
now sort of in the age of divorce, divorce parties,
divorce parties. Yeah, like I'm no longer in the age
of like my friend's getting married, which is nice.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But I I.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Don't love a party with a game, but I do
love a part I do feel like you need a stripper. Mmy,
do you know you need you need someone man, woman
otherwise to take their clothes off and to pay good
money to see that. And you can call me whatever
(30:59):
you want to call me, but I believe that that
is something for the first side of a bachelor party,
that like you need to have lift off.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You know, I just say the way you're even saying
this right now, the tone of voice, it just sounds
like full doctor sadie.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And it's like and so since no one's here, that
person will be mean and so here we go. Feels
like are you going to take your clothes off? It's
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's true, though, It's like you do need It's such
a shocking thing to witness when someone does it. But I,
you know, I support sex workers of all kinds, dancers
and exotic dancers, and you know, listen, the one thing
I'll say is like, let's come prepared with our ones
and our tips and you know, pay a man and
(31:48):
pay a woman for a man's work and a woman's work.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I will never forget being in college and a bunch
of girlfriends were like, Hey, do you want to go
to girls' night at some whatever bar it was? And
I just assumed ibent like us girls were going out,
like I just moved from India to like North America.
So I was just like, okay, great, and so we
went and all my girls were there. It was like
(32:18):
dollar high balls, so we're just like boy, yeah, having
a couple of drinks and these really there was all.
I didn't clock it because I was just like happy
to be there, and I it was all women.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There was only women there, and then.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like like four lovely gentlemen like walked up to our table.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
They were like in suits, like.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Looking very nice, and we're chatting to us and very
really sweet, and this one guy was talking about how
he wanted to study like I don't know, like biology
and like go to university and stay biology, and I
was just like oh, and then like they he kind
of wandered off and then they were talking to other people.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I didn't really and then all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Of a sudden, like the lights went out, one light
came up, and then they all walked out buck ass
naked with the rings on their things, and we're doing
like one arm pushups, and I remember I screamed, yeah,
that's it, yeah, and ran to the back wall, turned
(33:18):
around like full Blair Witch project.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And just went he needs to go to college learn biology,
like this what's happening? And I had no idea that
that that that's.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then what was the crazy thing is after these
wonderful dancing and athletic things happened, when these very beautiful
men with their beautiful bodies, they just like then were gone,
and then they opened like a door and then like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
A hundred men just come in, you know, who've been all.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like kept for like so it's first two hours of
Ladies Nights, heavy dollar highballs. Then they bring up these
naked men, and then the naked men go away, then
the drink are civilians, and then they released the hounds
and you're just like and then I remember calling my
boyfriend at the time and I was like, girls, night's.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Gone wrong, Please pick me up. I don't know what's
happening here.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I have It's not a bachelorrette party, but it feels
like it had the elements of surprise and trauma that
usually accompany it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So they're sort of just hoping, okay, like we'll get
the ladies drink drinking, and then the ladies are going
to because they've been amped up by these men. They're
going to be so psyched to see a hundred men coming,
not realizing like that's every woman's nightmare.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
This is a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You've released those into like the lion's den and like
closed the doors. Like the whole thing was so good.
It's really My boyfriend I remember pulled up in his truck. He,
by the way, had no idea that what this was.
He just thought like, oh, she wants to come home.
Find super sweet guy. He pulls up in his truck.
I get in the trick and he handed me a
purple popsicle. I'll never forget that. And I was like,
(34:56):
and I was, I was so young. I was just like,
I don't know, I'm not And then I remember we
did bachelorette party where it was like all this penis
stuff on set and it was constant right when doctor
Sadie's like up for it and just being wild, and
I remember I had to do very little acting in
that because I just remembered that night where I'm like,
(35:16):
this is everything about this makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Everybody, just keep.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Your clothes on, have a seat, listen.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But there's always that person, And that's why I love
that episode. It's like there's always that person who's too
into it, you know, who's too excited to have strippers.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
That's usually me anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
And then there's the person who's like I have to leave,
like it's like having a fucking mental breakdown when the
strippers arrives. So it's like you always, you know, there's
always a sort of a mixed bag. Now, I will
say the one thing I've noticed at bachelorette parties is
the moment I mean the reveal of the stripper when
(35:55):
like someone's delivering a pizza or someone's you know, calling
to see like if there the hotel TV is working,
whatever that misdirect is. It is always fun. And then
all of a sudden, like someone.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Said, and I think, huh, like you said earlier on
this podcast, I might be making this up, sure, but
I think it's true that at my mom's bachelorette party,
it was getting like out of hand. It was like
on a rooftop and it was getting like, you know,
like loud as an out of hand, just like singing, dancing,
(36:30):
like everyone's having a good time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
And the cops came.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And I feel like it just was real cops.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
But the women went up.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
That's hilarous.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Like they went up, they got excited, and then Stripper's
a stripper did come after, but after the real cops
and then got like no response when he walked in.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I feel like that that happened. That it's really funny.
Now I have to text my mom.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, and if it didn't, you need to write that
into something because that's so fun.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, they went up, and then they were really just
getting told off and then they all just sat there
and then the real stripper showed up dressed like a cop,
and then everyone was just sort of like, look.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
We try, we're being quiet, leave us alone. I'm so sorry,
we'll figure this out.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the guys like, well, so, what I was gonna
say is that the thing that I have noticed, and
I don't know if there's anything to do about this,
but a lot of times after the fun has been
had and you know, the ones have come out and
the routine is over, and it's really uncomfortable to then watch,
(37:39):
you know, our professional dancer stripper have to a collect
the ones on the ground. You know, that's never that's
never going to be easy to sit through. And then
also like grab what is usually a black Duffel bag
and either put their clothes on in front of you
(38:00):
you or go into a bathroom to do it. Those
moments are hard, you know, and I've survive on a
T shirt like I've lived through.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I lived through watching it, even.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talking about it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You just heard about my experience at Girls' night, Like
I feel like hives forming on my body.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I just had another moment this I do know happen.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I remember this was like the power of like you know,
like like the little mouse or something, thinking that she
can like overcome the elephants or whatever is. I remember
them all. I remember hearing women chanting take it off.
And I remember in my Blair Witch pose like and
turned to the wall going like, you know, keep it,
keep it on, seeing if it could like get so trash, really.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
So sad, it's so sad.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Then me with my purple popsicle later and then my
boyfriend being like so I was it was a fun
hanging out with the girls. I was like, I can
talk about it, so scared.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Another question, somebody's not a fact, but I realized you
and I are now learning that we're like the ying
to each other's yang.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yes, I feel like we would be great.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We would find a nice ye meddle and I would
save you from some things and you would push me
to maybe like open my eyes and turn around.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You never Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
This question is from Erica from Philidelphia. She says one
of the most underrated characters on New Girl was Sadie.
Not only was she super funny, but she was able
to help Ceci through a really difficult fertility scare as
a professional. I always wish we'd had more of Sadie
through the series, where there are talks of bringing in
June Diane Raphael More if she came back in a reboot.
(39:38):
What do you think Sadie would be doing?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
All we get all day longest questions of reunion is
there reunion reunion?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
About what would the like the most beloved characters if
we did a reunion be doing.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It's so funny though, because I think I think people
think they want a reunion. But and that's one exception
to that, I am very much so a fan of
and just like that, I really enjoyed they spin off.
It is a different I view it, and I know
a lot of people have a lot of feelings about it,
but I personally like, I very much so enjoy that show.
(40:18):
And I'm like, this is the this is a reboot
or not a reboot, this is a that show?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
What that?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And I'm I'm framing my answer to this question thinking
about and just like that, because the truth is, not
every character made it back onto the show. Okay, Big
was on and then killed off immediately.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
There.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
And what I loved about that is like, Okay, if
you do imagine characters or a people and you cut
to fifteen years into the future or whatever, not every
relationship stanns right, people die, you know, like shit happens,
and in particular, so I love about it just like
(41:05):
that is it's like it, yeah, Samantha, I know you
know the real reasons why she's not back in the
feud or whatever. But the truth is, I see you Ice.
That makes sense to me that Samantha and Carrie are
no longer friends like that they had a major falling out.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what happens in life, not
everything moves forward.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
New Girl had that thing right where they were really
authentic with their relationships with their friendships, like people you
know would. It was easier for them to have like
physical intimacy before emotional intimacy, like they didn't do like
the usual formula on a lot of things, which is
why I think it rang true. Right, So what you're saying,
I think is a lot of merit, because if we
(41:46):
came back and we rebooted the show, there would have
to be some real authentic shifts that would happen with
that kind of time span. So one, who do you
think we'd have to kill? Two which relationship would be done?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
The will they won't? They is gone, they won't? And
three what is Sadie do it?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
God? Oh, I don't know that I could kill anyone.
I'm just a guest star. That's not really my I
don't have that kind of power. I wouldn't dare kill
any of the serious regulars. Honestly, I can't believe. And
I love him so much, but actually I don't know
that Jake, I don't know that he now I'm not
(42:33):
going to say his character dies, but I could see him.
I could see sort of a tragic end, you know.
But something like this is actually my fear. I always
felt scared that I'll die in a way that's so dumb,
that people will have a hard time grieving me because
(42:54):
they'll be like, oh, we're so sad, what a devastating loss.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
But also like, with the fuck was she thinking? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And like something like that could have happened to him
or Max, you know where It's like, it could be
a really funny opening.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
To the to the spin off.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Or have you really Bad Sisters?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Is that what happens Bad Sisters, which Brett Baron Dave
Finkel are a part of.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You had just watched the opening scene.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Okay, I recommend it to everybody, but one of it
starts with the funeral. It's not giving anything away, but
one of the best and funniest openings, like how to
do Comedy and death perfectly.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Oh wonderful. I have to see it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Maybe Sharon Morgan, who's my absolute favorite, I can't believe
I haven't seen it. So sometimes it's hard for me
to get to Apple TV and I don't know why,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Hard for me to find my way there.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
What doctor Sadie would be up to. I have to
imagine that. You know, sherobably had a mental breakdown during
COVID you know, so many healthcare professionals did. I think
that maybe she's still recovering from that. I guess she
has a baby now. I don't think that she and
kay Hannon made it, you know, the long haul. Maybe
(44:20):
there's some custody issues. See every pitch I'm going to
have is so dark and so upsetting, like it's not
going to be what you want.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
We found you on a day, We really phoned you
on a day to day.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, honestly, like I think that I think that doctor
Sadie is maybe sober, but know that it took a
while to get there. Okay, and it won pretty journey.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
By the way, this show I would watch whatever is
doctor Sadie's journey, I.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Mean was not easy. Yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I feel like she tried her hand at stripping.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I can just see the Duffel bag in doctor Sadie's hand.
You used to be like her medical bag, her medical
equipment bag, and now her little nurse's outfit has just
got like a whole different.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Meaning, yeah, you know, doctor Sadie's like a onion, Like
who knows she could have gone so many different ways.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Yeah, but yeah I will.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I always say, like, I think I said this to
Kay too. When we did the Eggs episode. It was
a very pivotal episode in my real life because we
were all I feel like you were sitting with us
on the back of this golf cart and she was
talking about how she knew that her husband was the one,
(45:56):
and I was like, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I was dating a.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Guy at the time. I remember being the conversations yes,
go on though.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah I remember because she said, you know, when you
look into the eyes of your boyfriend or your partner
and you can see your children's faces, you can see
what your babies will look like. And I remember being
like and going home to my boyfriend, who I really
(46:25):
cared for at the time, and being like, like it
felt like the end of like you know those curb
scenes where the music playing and I'm like, oh, I
don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
What does that mean? I don't see anything?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And it really kind of got in my head like
a little bug and then with the next person I dated,
it was wild.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
It was just I don't know if it's.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
A litmus test, it was well, it's also that age.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know in your life where you're kind of going
like you're looking for different things and you're looking for
something more at a partner than just like yes, whatever the.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Fun side, and so it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
But I remember sitting on the back of the golf
cart and it was one of those weird like art
and life like yes moments where we're doing this episode
about eggs and we're not in our twenties anymore, and
it just felt really weird.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It was supposed to be about Zoe's character, but it
really is.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
About CC being a good friend and finding out that
she's got like a situation going on and putting pressure
on her. But then walking away from that set sitting
on the back of the golf cart with amazing women
who are just like really sharing like some eye opening
moments for themselves, and then you're having these real impacts
in your relationships. You know.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's the cool thing about you know for listeners who
I feel like a lot of people are like, oh,
what is it like on set? I'm so curious about
TV and film, and I know I was complaining about
working hours, but there's something to be said for and
this is why actors get a bad rap. I love actors,
(48:01):
Love actors. They're just open and wonderful people. Sorry, but
one thing I love about being on set is and
it's sort of change now with phones and a lot
of people are on their phones. I'm really not because
I'm like, this is such a precious experience. I was
leaving my phone on my trailer because of those conversations
(48:22):
where you're like, oh, you're kind of open because you
want to be emotionally available to the scene and you
want to be present, and so when you're walking onto
a set and trying to prepare for whatever the scene
is and thinking about it, and then you have these
real life conversations that end up being just so incredible
(48:48):
and you learn so much about people. And it's one
of the things I think I struggled with the most
during the pandemic was like the loss of those of
being on set and having I don't know, it feels
like it's a different portal where you can it's not
weird to have that conversation on a golf cart.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
It wasn't. It was like, it's true.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
There is sort of like with wonderful actors and that
you get to meet you all of a sudden go
really deep into these conversations, and it's people that aren't
scared of those conversations.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I would think it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I get asked a lot about like chemistry, right because
people talk about like chemistry with uc and Schmidt or
with Justin Nick or whatever, or the cast in general.
And I'm sure for you know a lot of people,
their definition of it is they talk about chemistry. It's
like they think about it like in real life terms,
like ooh, I really want to do this thing with
(49:47):
that person, Like might some delicious chemistry like that. But
for me, the chemistry was especially like when I was
working with Max. But then you'd have phenomenal people like
yourself come on the show where it.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Was just like.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
True trust, yeah, like is something unspoken and that is
just something between two people where you know you're about
to be really vulnerable and to try something silly or
weird or bizarre, and the other person is looking at
you dead in the eye, and you's got a bunch
of crews standing around you going like.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I got you, go for it, Go for it.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I got you, be cool, try it? Who cares? Try it?
Get weirder with it.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
And it was that's like you were talking about like
your first scene. You remember that feeling, and I do
feel like it was one thing that New Girl did
just had naturally on that set, which was like it
was team show, Yeah, who can make this the funniest go?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
We got you.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
We'll keep pushing it go. And it was like and
it took me about a year to kind of get
out of my own head of feeling just super lucky
to be there where I was like, oh, like this
is really safe and if it doesn't work, they're not
going to air it, right, but we we're just going
to try all these things, which is why we became
like in this weird like alt Land a lot of
(51:04):
the time too, where they're even like the writers, everybody
was just like like, let's go, let's keep.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Trying to do more.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
And sometimes I got like a lot more sure and
but that energy, that chemistry of trust of being able
to just do it. Yeah, And there was no competition
as in like who's the funny like you said, the
funniest person, but how do we make the show the
funniest yes, or the most real, Like I really need
to get there to a place where I have to
(51:31):
cry or break down or do the thing.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And I got you there too.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
So well, and I think that, you know, it is
such a technical creative space where it's like it's more
technical than creative. There's you know, technicians and camera lenses
and equipments and wires and and there's more of that
than there are people who are in the scenes and
(51:57):
trying to embody this part, right, so you really I
also think for women there's another challenge, which is most
crews are predominantly male. That's starting to change, especially though
when we were starting New Girl that was the case.
That is the that is the standard of our industry,
which is that most crew members are men. And so
(52:20):
as a woman artist, to come onto a set and
already feel like I'm being I'm I am stripping down
to well probably taking my clothes off if I got
the part I wanted, but I'm I actually, my job
(52:41):
here is to look stupid. My job here is to
fail to push so far that I'm making a choice
that I think maybe people won't like, you know, and
I think for women in particular, there's that added challenge
of the sort of good girl like mentality like I
got this job, so now I just have to do
(53:02):
it right. And art is not interesting when it's correct,
it's interesting when it's not.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
And so I do think actresses.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Have this added weight of like, how do I feel
free and open and wanting to fail, not just not
avoiding failure so that the network executives don't get upset
with me, so that the showrunner doesn't come out and
give me notes, so that my co star like doesn't
think I'm wasting time, you know, all of the things
(53:34):
that run through our heads. And that's you know. I
I still I've gotten a lot better with it through
the course of my career, where I'm like, oh, now
I have a new standard, which is actually to risk more.
But and I think you get a little older, the
vanity piece in some ways gets harder, but some ways,
(53:55):
like with kids, now I'm like, you know what, the
end of the day, I'm going home to two people
who like really think I'm great. So I'm ultimately good
no matter how this day ends.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah, but it is. It is.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
It's not an actor's medium. It's a director's medium TV film,
and so it's like we're told like, hey, they're ready,
go and but we never get the opportunity to say, like,
but hold on, I'm not ready, because then you're difficult.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, I mean, I will say that was one of
the sweetest things in my working with Max Greenfield a
lot is that are like the characters like Ark all
of a sudden got a little complicated emotional hurt fault,
Like you know, there's cheating involved and like fertility issues
involved and all this stuff that my character had to
gun and all of a sudden jump in And sometimes
(54:52):
I'd be only working one day a week, so then
you can show up and it's like and go and
you have to get in it. And that's when I
talk about chemistry. That's what was the great chemistry between
Max and I is that he was just like the
He's just an incredible scene partner who was just like,
I'm gonna sit no matter what everybody else is saying,
(55:13):
We're gonna sit in this until we get there, and
I got you and just keep pushing. It was just
like a beautiful thing of trust. And it was the
same when I would do scenes with Zoe and they.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Were just like easily best friends out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And it's like it's like five in the morning, and
we had to just kind of like find our path
into like the thing we had each other, and it
was really, it was really, that was just like a
wonderful thing. I also remember them trying to put like
CC and Coach together.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
I don't even know this.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
They tried to have his date and have a relationship
on the show. And Damon and I.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
We had to do this big kiss outside the loft
and he.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Had to like pick me up and like beholding me
and like against a wall, and I.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Think I chipped his tooth.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Then I think he tried to pick me up and
then he kind of dropped me and then made a
comment about like, well I can't because this part's big,
and I was like you say, and we were just
dying laughing, And then finally Video Village was dying laughing
and they were just like, whatever the thing is with
you guys in real life, Like you're so deep in
brother Sister land in real life, Yeah, your bodies are
(56:18):
like the opposite ends of the mega and are just
they're running from each other, and so they flip the
whole nature of our relationship, and then it kind of
it just it became like we were friends and we
were helping everybody else. And the fact that they show
could see those things and just embrace it and be like,
all right, let's pivot and make this work so that
(56:40):
we can keep the energy. Yeah, exactly authentic in the show,
because when you watch it, you know when it's bullshit
and you're like.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We have well, this is not the thing.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Well. It's funny though, because I've also had the experience
of thinking I have amazing chemistry with this person and
then watching it and being like, oh god, that didn't translate.
And then the opposite has been true too, where I'm
like I have got nothing with this gentleman, like he
is toxic to me. I can't believe I have to
(57:09):
fake whatever, and then seeing it on screen and being like, god,
damn it. What I was playing as repellent is weirdly
reading in this camera as interest. And so I do
think that's often true as well, which is like the
camera is taking on things and they're seeing things in
(57:33):
video village that are like it's just different. Yeah, And
that's I'm not a director. That's the mystery of like
what directors do.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
But it's one of those moments when they're like okay,
got it, and you're like, really, you really get it
because I feel.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Like I promise you I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's straight. I didn't get it, Like.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
I will never move on to the scene.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Those are the worst drives home too. You're driving home
and you're just like, oh.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
I always figure the scene on the drive home. Always. Always,
That's what I meant there.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, June, I love you. Thank you for coming on
this Weird Wiley podcast of us.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
I'm so happy to be here, so nice to think
about New Girl and the massive you know success it was,
and also just what a lovely experience it was. So
thank you for having me, and I beg all of
you to not fact track a word I've said.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Not a word you can say.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
I always know whenever I get really happy, like I
mix up my words.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Even now, it's like coming on this.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Weird Wiley podcast of us because my brain is just
going it's us, it's us right here, and I can't
even say of ours, well, that is our show. W
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today we are having a loft meeting with the June
Diane Raphael aka a doctor Sadie. She was a dear
friend of Justin CC, a gynecologist, and most importantly, a lesbian.
She was featured in seasons one, two, three, and six,
doing a total of eight episodes, and one of the
most beloved characters of the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Hi Hi, Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Funny because I will say that I get recognized from
New Girl more than you would think, and I'm always like,
I don't look my hair's so different. I feel like
I don't look like the same person who was on
that show played doctor Sadie. But the number of times,
in in the randomest places, someone will come up to
(01:09):
me and say and catch my eye from across it
happened we were a global entry flying back into the
country and someone shouted from like lines over doctor Sadie
and I was like, Hi, but it's it is well,
I don't have to tell you all, but wow, the
power of New Girl.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, What's what really shocked me was that when it
aired that it was like, you know, there was a
frenzy around it when it happened, but then during you know,
COVID it moved.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
To Netflix, and that's where yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, this whole new
crop of fans kind of showed up because they thought
it was a new Netflix show and they were consuming
it not week to week over eight years, like.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
In a week.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah yeah, and so it was like this thing they
just we're living with us so deeply and then repeating
the show. It became this comfort show, so people share
with us. And so I can imagine all of a sudden,
like doctor Sadie is like back in these streets she.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Is, and I that's so fascinating how that happens.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean I have been I was on a Netflix
series for seven almost eight years, and so I do
understand the power of Netflix because it's really and how
people consume it is so different from how like you
and I watched TV that like that consumption and how
(02:42):
people just get it in their bones. It's just different
than waiting a week catching a rerun. You know. It's
like you are with your shows in a different in
a more intimate way.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean it changed, to be honest with you, like
how I started watching TV during like COVID.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
When we were all kind of locked down.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is I started to within with shows that were airing
week to week.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I would wait.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's terrible to say out loud, but I would wait
until they were like on the streaming service, and then
I could watch it in a night, like.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A yeah, yeah, I understand. You don't have to this
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It was just sort of like people like, are you watching?
I was like, no, don't tell me anything. Don't be
a terrible human, don't spoil it. I have to wait
two months.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I watched it in the night.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I will watch it when it's fully cooked. All of
the episodes are available to me.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's right, which then became the most annoying thing when
it would be like previously, you know, last week, I
was like, get out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Here with that noise. I was here one second ago.
You're wasting my time.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It is it's a it's a different it's it is
a different beast. And it's amazing though, how shows can
get new lives and it's very I think it's I
think that piece of it is so wonderful and toss
of like audience reach. It's it's really very cool.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know, doing New Girl was such
like a wonderful experience for me and so it's kind
of nice that we get to do this podcast now
where we get to kind of walk down memory lane
and relive it and learn all the stuff that we
genuinely didn't know because we were so in it. It
was super intense. I watched each episode as it came out,
(04:31):
but I've never rewatched it, like I've never done it.
And now we are and we're like, one, this is
actually like a pretty good show. Like we're like, okay,
we kind of get it now. And when we get
to talk to everybody and learn, especially learn like how
people we got these incredible people like yourself, like how
they got onto the show, like what was their path?
(04:52):
And some of the paths have been so surprising to us.
We had no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So what was yours?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How did you find your way to doctor Sadie.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I was thinking about it and kinda of course, you know,
as I head into a perimenopause, like the brain's getting foggier, yay,
So put that disclaimer on the episode, like woman is
entering into a new hormonal phase of getting things. So
it's like, I don't know if it's long COVID, I
(05:19):
don't know if it's pretty menopause, but things are falling
away at a rapid rate. But I knew I was
coming on to talk to you today and.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I was like, oh, I have this.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Memory of auditioning. Now, this could be wrong, but I
have a memory of auditioning two times for two different roles.
Now what they were, I don't know. I feel like
one was maybe the Lizzie Kaplan role. Oh yeah, But
(05:53):
I don't know if that makes sense with season one,
because I know it was season one.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You're the drama chap right now.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Because this is exactly how I talk. I'm always like, listen,
I'm going to do my best. I'm going to tell
you everything as truthfully as I can't. It may be
a complete I may be fully making this up, but
I think this is how it goes.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But what's troubling too, is like I it's either so
truthful that you have to be like your savants and
have a photographic memory, or it's like I'm talking about
a different show.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That's right. I know it's gonna be so right or
so wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That I auditioned for maybe it was one of Max's
girlfriends on the show. I know I went in two
other times for two different roles, and the casting director
please remind who it was Anya, Yes, it was it
was Anya, of course, and the audition was you know,
sometimes you just have a good experience, you know, rarely,
(06:57):
but sometimes, and god, I haven't been in a room
so long now, it's like not how it's done anymore.
But sometimes you just there's an ease to it. Am
I always I felt both times that I auditioned like, oh,
the writing is in my body, like I didn't. It
wasn't work to learn it, integrate it, you know, it
(07:19):
was easy both times, which I think is always the
sign of good writing. When you really have to like
muscle to memorize lines. I'm always like, mmm, this this
is not the way people talk. So anyway, I had
auditioned twice, didn't get either role, and then I.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Believe again could be so true and could be.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Nothing, but but what I believe to be true in
this house, we believe that that I was then offered
doctor Sadie after having done like what I think was
a good job with both of those auditions. So anyway,
(08:04):
so I believe that is what happened, that I was
then given, you know, offer the role which at that
time in my career was such.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
A big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I was about to say, wow, that's that's so wild
to me, right, because I don't feel.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Like, maybe not true. You know, if it's that wild,
it's probably not true.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No, I believe it though.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I believe it because I do feel like that's like
the gift of like a great those great casting directors,
and Anya's one of them where they go like, we
get it, we know what they're capable of. We don't
need to do the dance, we need to fill this role.
We have the person, and then they can take that
leap of trust. But I do feel like unless you
were like some mega A list star, it was quite
rare at that time to just like get an offer
(08:52):
unless you were like fully established.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, you know, what's the story of my career, and
I say this without any shame. I'm thrilled about this,
is that my career has been built on people, other
actresses who are our bigger names, dropping out literally the
day before for unfrisseen circumstances and me getting a call
(09:14):
like basically, can you show up tomorrow at six am?
And I'm always like yes, and then I get the job.
So it's you know again, and I have been very
happy to get jobs that way. You know, that is
not a problem for me. But I don't think that's
(09:35):
what happens here. I think I genuinely shockingly. I think
I had been in contention for several other guest stars
and on the show and didn't get them, and then
they were like, well, she could do this. I'd have
to ask les Merriweather. But I believe that's what happened.
(09:57):
It was so early on. I mean, here's the cool thing,
and this way, I hold the experience near and dear
to my heart. It was very interesting to be on
a show. Yes, it became it would go on to
become such a huge hit, but there was so much
(10:18):
buzz around it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
There was so much expectation. It was like this it
was just a very cool show to be on.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And I remember being there and feeling like, oh wow,
this is an intense environment. I don't use the word
intense in a negative way. I just mean it was
like it felt like everybody knew that this was something.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's funny people talk about that about how they came
on set and the whole thing just.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Felt like very like electric.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, like it felt like this weird lightning and a
bottle thing goes happening, and it was exciting and you
got to be part of it and it's funny BECU
La morning and I talk about it right like for
me and for him too, it was like our first
real experience. And then there had been people had been
in the game longer than us and who had had,
you know, a variety of experiences. And I remember Max
(11:19):
saying to us going, yeah, it's not all like this,
just so you know, soa good up, because this is
not how it's always like when you get on a
set or you book a job or it's a show.
But for us, it's like you know, when it's all
you know right, so you know, the weirdest way. We
didn't feel it as much because for him and I
(11:41):
because it was our first experience, so everything was just new.
The learning curve was steep. But it took, I would say,
a couple years for us to fully understand that we
are in this like very rare moment. And I remember
having a moment sitting on like that brown couch, the
(12:04):
new Girl couch, And I don't know if you ever
have has like have this feeling in your life or
whatever where you're I just remember sitting there and whenever
they're setting up a scene or and I was like,
I'm here right now, and at some point this is
all going to go away, at some point, inevitably the
show end. It's not going to run for like nine
thousand years. And I was like, but it's happening now.
(12:26):
I'm here right now and really trying to like watch
like our first ad, running around like yelling, you know, resulting,
yelling for something you need to move faster, and like
all of the little things that were happening, and just
trying to like really like observe it. And I just
remember it really clear. And that was like maybe a
(12:46):
couple years in though, but a lot of people who
had been in the industry longer were just like, oh no,
when you walked on that set, you knew this is
something unique.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, And my first day on set was not on
the Fox lot.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It was on location.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean maybe maybe the base camp was, but we
went to this like weird office building because it was
a scene that took place in my office where I
was checking out Jake Johnson for something. I don't remember
what it was, but and Zoe had brought him to me,
(13:25):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The cancer episode? And You're like, I'm a kind of
college Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right, got it, got it?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But that scene, well, first of all, I was directed
by Lynn Sheldon May she rest in Peace, and I
apps I was so excited to work with her because
I was I had seen hump Day only weeks earlier,
which is the movie she directed and wrote and was in,
I believe, and I thought she was a genius, and
(13:55):
so I was so excited to work with her. And
what I and I knew Jake from UCB, so the
Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. And I don't think he and
I had ever necessarily like improvised together, but I knew
him from kind of improv community in LA. And I
just remember doing that scene and feeling like, oh, this
(14:24):
isn't true of every set. Oh, Zoe wants me to
be funny, she wants me to do well. Lynn wants
me to do well. Jake wants me to do well.
Like there was this nobody was squashing my creative instincts.
And I think I had I think that I, you know,
(14:46):
had also in the rehearsal or whatever improvised and I
think they realized like, oh, let her do what she not,
whatever she wants. But there was a spirit of like, Okay,
if if you can beat this or if you can
make this better than do it, you know, And it
was really thrilling to be a part of something like
(15:07):
that where it felt like, no, the best thing wins,
not just the most important person in this room gets
to decide. So yeah, I was really like struck by that,
and I mean, the character is so not me, but
(15:30):
I loved playing that kind of like dry, understated, and
you know, it was just so much fun. But yeah,
that was my first experience and I thought, oh, I
guess that I did that, and I'll you know, I'll
never be seen or heard from. I mean, I think
don't we all feel that way as actors, Like, oh,
I just finished this job, I'll never I'll never work again,
(15:54):
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
How we feel all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's that was nice And it's a rap on me, know,
it's a self wrap.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So just gonna get my car, drive off the lot.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, and I'll drive to another state and open up
a flower shop.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
But that's that. Life is done done.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know, And it's one of the it's one of
the crazy things about being an actor and.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Then I was like so happy to come back and
to you know, get to do more scenes.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And it's one of my You do two of my
favorite scenes. One where Schmidt shows up to ask if
he's good at sex, yes, and he's explaining all the
things and it's and it's turning you on to this
sane level, but also you're so angry because it's a
(16:49):
man that's doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And the way you are in that scene even now.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It'll make me cry because I was because again I
haven't rewatched the show, so I get to watch it
just like a fan now because I'm so far from it,
and I was like in tears because that level it's
only only a real woman can understand, to be turned
on beyond a point where where you're not in control
(17:15):
of the feeling, but also a very entitled and appropriate
rage towards this man.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
This person.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah can those two truths.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Can be true in that moment, and you play it
so beautifully and so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's one of my favorite.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And the other is when you're I feel like you're
at the in the Bachelorette episode and you're just hitting
on everybody and being like wildly like out of pocket,
right and would be fully canceled.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, well, I had the experience I think of being
pregnant my charac doctor Sadie was pregnant because Kate Hannon
was my wife's life girlfriend. But then I think I
was actually pregnant for the last one of the last
times I you know, you know what I realized an
(18:04):
as I was sitting here, they actually did ask me
to come back for the like finale finale, and I
remember being asked to get on a horse. It was
a day on a horse in Malibu?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you this ringing about?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay? I remember being told maybe they rewrote this, maybe
it wasn't at all the last scripts.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We haven't gotten there yet. We're only on season two.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Watching this and like real time as we go, that's
so funny, that's.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So fun Okay, So well whatever, whatever the scene was, ok,
I really wanted to be in the I was like
so excited, you know, but I had just had a
C section and I remember you and I were talking
about motherhood before we started and the podcast, and I
remember having that moment of being like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Do I just try to do it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Do I?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Because I think as an actor. In this industry, there's
the constant battle as a mom of or at least
I fell speak for myself of like what do I
give to this town of myself because it's often taking
(19:26):
away something from my kids? What do I Where will
I travel to? What will I what kind of hours
will I work? When I was breastfeeding and all that,
Like what kind of setting is this to even make
it possible.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
To work?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And you know, I mean New Girl had some intense hours,
and I know there were parents on that show, And
I've thought about that quite a bit because it's one
of of the things that I feel like our industry is.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So behind on where we you know, we have.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Intimacy coordinators and me too certainly opened huge conversations and
tackled so much. And also our industry does not acknowledge
the amount of labor women do in terms of primary
caretaking and their children and the hours that parents, I mean,
(20:29):
I'll say parents across the board.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Put in.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, I've seen actresses literally like walk off sets
because they were having like mental breakdowns from being away
from their kids, not having seen their kids in five days,
and they live in the same house. You know, how
difficult it can be. And so this is like a
(20:56):
constant battle, and it certainly was. It's easy or for
me now because I've been able to get clear on
a lot of these things and what you know, my
priorities are. But at the same time, like we've been
through two major labor movements and work as work and
I you know, people also need to work and so
(21:19):
but I think there's so many strides that are industrying
needs to take when it comes to parenting, specially mothers
on sets, reasonable work hours, et cetera, because it is like,
especially for new moms, it becomes a mental health issue.
But at that time, so when I was offered to
come back, I remember staring at the email my agent
(21:43):
calling me, and I was like, I'm still in like
the pair kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The vipers that.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
The mething mesh.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I'm still in the beloved cedar side mesh.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I loved those. I'm still in my mishundies.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm on some serious pain meds.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I have been told I cannot pick up my toddler.
I don't know if I should get on a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Again.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
What the scene was, what's coming to mind? And so anyway,
long story short, I said no, and.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I remember being like, Okay, I have two kids now
and I'm saying no now that I guess maybe it
was a clearer decision because it's like, well, I just
I don't think I can physically do it, but.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You know, these are the things that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Mother's really especially when so much work is out of
LA now that we really contend with, and in an
industry that's so competitive, and we're to just be so
grateful to get any job.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It's it's hot.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Man, it is hard, and I have been lucky to
work in LA for so many years. Wellly have to
travel a bit.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Don't you feel though there's like a shift though that
happens with work, when your priority shift in your own
life where so many of those jobs then come from relationships. Yeah,
I feel like from relationships and from people you can
speak to really honestly, and then you can like kind
of work around what is the best for what you're
(23:35):
trying to balance in your work life family balance. Like
we had this conversation many times on Not Dead Yet,
a show I did with Gina because she did first
season pregnant, second season with a new baby, and it's
so funny because you can understand it intellectually, like if
you're listening to this and you don't have kids, you
(23:56):
can get it and you can see that this is
not a fair situation from others that are working. But
then to have your baby and then to be on set,
it's like a whole new way because now you're experiencing
it and you're living it. And I remember the shock
that Gina was in and the big moves that her
(24:17):
and I worked together on.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
To just like make sure that everybody was feeling safe
and good and we truly knew what.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Was important and not feeling like we had to apologize
or feel guilty for asking to take that right time
in space. And it felt like nothing had changed, you know,
from you know, decades ago. So it's challenging, and it
really does become about like your own personal boundaries and
(24:48):
about having to say no. I remember watching all those specials,
remember on like E where I was like, where are
they now? And then they'd just talk about some like
sitcom actress or whatever, and they were just like and
she just did disappeared.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Nobody knows, like no, she just she had no choice.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I know, I know she had to raise her children.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And you didn't create a space for her to be
able to work in a way that was like where
she could survive as a human. So she had to
make the choice. She didn't want to stop working, but
the work environment is not built for mothers, especially of
young children.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So it's a It is interesting. It's funny because it says.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Here, I'm reading my notes that you were in season seven,
which is our final season.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, So maybe they shifted.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It or moved it or changed it to be like, okay,
so how do we Because I feel like Liz is
such a special, wonderful human that probably was like, oh, okay,
of that if she had that information like June physically
cannot do this, the mesh will not allow, and so
did she?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Did they come back? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So here's what I remember. I shot something because I
was actually in Boston shooting something else, and I believe
that I shot something on my iPhone that was going
to be shown in the Okay, So that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Was you But interesting, I get it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It was was maybe it was season six that would
make more sense.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Wasn't there something where like they thought this show was
going to end one season earlier?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, we were supposed to what ends and it was done,
and they were racing to shoot this coda because they're like,
I guess we got canceled, and they were just like,
we need to wrap up a whole series of this
beloved show, bonkers, And then all of us just had
to sit and write letters begging for a few episodes
so that we could close out the series with some
(26:45):
respect and like really like that wild?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yes, it is wild.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Okay, this is all coming back to me, so sirless
Merriweather's going to fact check me. Yeah, no, I think
it was something like that where I I.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
God, why do I remember being asked to be on
a horse?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know that's too specific for me to have like
wildly made up, but yeah, it's so true. I mean
it is the same, Listen, it's the same reason why
you know, the women who do run for office either
don't have small children or you know, are old enough
that they have children who are out of the house
and don't have those like primary care taking needs anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
This is a reality where you see men. Listen.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I saw a lot of men on your show have
small children and work those hours. Okay, so it's just
a different beast. Yeah, and it we are this is
the last thing I'll say about it. But we are
supposed to. You know, if you look at the trajectory
(27:51):
of how much money women make, we will make the
most money when we have our first children. Just timing wise, right,
and women are having children later and later, and that's
a trend that's probably only going to continue. We're not
going to go back to having kids when we're twenty one.
Most women are now waiting. But when we put all
(28:14):
of that investment of our twenties and sometimes half of
our thirties into our career, you know, we at the
exact moment we should start to see the fruits of
it is when we're having our first children. And so
then we wonder, why are there no c suitet level women?
Why are there no you know, up and down the ballot,
(28:36):
there aren't enough. It's like, well, well it's motherhood, dummies,
you know what I mean. And if we don't make
those adjustments, if we don't change like the infrastructure and
rebuild it so that it's there to support women of
small children, like, it's never going to change. Yeah, I'm done,
(28:58):
I'm going to stop recording. I'm going to it out
of here.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So all we have to do is change the infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, it's so simple, rebuilds and rebuilds.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I have to ask you these wonderful questions that came
in from fans. We've gotten so many questions over our
two seasons of doing this podcast about doctor Sadie, like,
how do you feel it yet? Facts they there's something
I think because she can be so scathing, and then
when she's drunk, she's just so wildly inappropriate that people
(29:37):
love her. And again, because she stayed in the universe, right,
she just kept coming back and showing up and had
these just these inappropriate, super funny moments, They've become iconic. Yeah,
so I'm going to read you some of these questions
from our beloved fans. So I love the episode Bachelorette
(30:02):
Party where Sadie encourages CC to pin the dong on Chevrang.
How do you feel about bachelorette parties? Is there a
game you love? And then they say, we're such a
big fan of your podcast, how did this get made?
How did you get started on that project?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Two separate things.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, I mean, I haven't been to bachelorett party in
a long time. I feel like that, you know, I'm
now sort of in the age of divorce, divorce parties,
divorce parties. Yeah, like I'm no longer in the age
of like my friend's getting married, which is nice.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But I I.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Don't love a party with a game, but I do
love a part I do feel like you need a stripper. Mmy,
do you know you need you need someone man, woman
otherwise to take their clothes off and to pay good
money to see that. And you can call me whatever
(30:59):
you want to call me, but I believe that that
is something for the first side of a bachelor party,
that like you need to have lift off.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You know, I just say the way you're even saying
this right now, the tone of voice, it just sounds
like full doctor sadie.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And it's like and so since no one's here, that
person will be mean and so here we go. Feels
like are you going to take your clothes off? It's
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's true, though, It's like you do need It's such
a shocking thing to witness when someone does it. But I,
you know, I support sex workers of all kinds, dancers
and exotic dancers, and you know, listen, the one thing
I'll say is like, let's come prepared with our ones
and our tips and you know, pay a man and
(31:48):
pay a woman for a man's work and a woman's work.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I will never forget being in college and a bunch
of girlfriends were like, Hey, do you want to go
to girls' night at some whatever bar it was? And
I just assumed ibent like us girls were going out,
like I just moved from India to like North America.
So I was just like, okay, great, and so we
went and all my girls were there. It was like
(32:18):
dollar high balls, so we're just like boy, yeah, having
a couple of drinks and these really there was all.
I didn't clock it because I was just like happy
to be there, and I it was all women.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There was only women there, and then.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like like four lovely gentlemen like walked up to our table.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
They were like in suits, like.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Looking very nice, and we're chatting to us and very
really sweet, and this one guy was talking about how
he wanted to study like I don't know, like biology
and like go to university and stay biology, and I
was just like oh, and then like they he kind
of wandered off and then they were talking to other people.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I didn't really and then all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Of a sudden, like the lights went out, one light
came up, and then they all walked out buck ass
naked with the rings on their things, and we're doing
like one arm pushups, and I remember I screamed, yeah,
that's it, yeah, and ran to the back wall, turned
(33:18):
around like full Blair Witch project.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And just went he needs to go to college learn biology,
like this what's happening? And I had no idea that
that that that's.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then what was the crazy thing is after these
wonderful dancing and athletic things happened, when these very beautiful
men with their beautiful bodies, they just like then were gone,
and then they opened like a door and then like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
A hundred men just come in, you know, who've been all.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like kept for like so it's first two hours of
Ladies Nights, heavy dollar highballs. Then they bring up these
naked men, and then the naked men go away, then
the drink are civilians, and then they released the hounds
and you're just like and then I remember calling my
boyfriend at the time and I was like, girls, night's.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Gone wrong, Please pick me up. I don't know what's
happening here.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I have It's not a bachelorrette party, but it feels
like it had the elements of surprise and trauma that
usually accompany it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So they're sort of just hoping, okay, like we'll get
the ladies drink drinking, and then the ladies are going
to because they've been amped up by these men. They're
going to be so psyched to see a hundred men coming,
not realizing like that's every woman's nightmare.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
This is a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You've released those into like the lion's den and like
closed the doors. Like the whole thing was so good.
It's really My boyfriend I remember pulled up in his truck. He,
by the way, had no idea that what this was.
He just thought like, oh, she wants to come home.
Find super sweet guy. He pulls up in his truck.
I get in the trick and he handed me a
purple popsicle. I'll never forget that. And I was like,
(34:56):
and I was, I was so young. I was just like,
I don't know, I'm not And then I remember we
did bachelorette party where it was like all this penis
stuff on set and it was constant right when doctor
Sadie's like up for it and just being wild, and
I remember I had to do very little acting in
that because I just remembered that night where I'm like,
(35:16):
this is everything about this makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Everybody, just keep.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Your clothes on, have a seat, listen.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But there's always that person, And that's why I love
that episode. It's like there's always that person who's too
into it, you know, who's too excited to have strippers.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
That's usually me anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
And then there's the person who's like I have to leave,
like it's like having a fucking mental breakdown when the
strippers arrives. So it's like you always, you know, there's
always a sort of a mixed bag. Now, I will
say the one thing I've noticed at bachelorette parties is
the moment I mean the reveal of the stripper when
(35:55):
like someone's delivering a pizza or someone's you know, calling
to see like if there the hotel TV is working,
whatever that misdirect is. It is always fun. And then
all of a sudden, like someone.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Said, and I think, huh, like you said earlier on
this podcast, I might be making this up, sure, but
I think it's true that at my mom's bachelorette party,
it was getting like out of hand. It was like
on a rooftop and it was getting like, you know,
like loud as an out of hand, just like singing, dancing,
(36:30):
like everyone's having a good time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
And the cops came.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And I feel like it just was real cops.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
But the women went up.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
That's hilarous.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Like they went up, they got excited, and then Stripper's
a stripper did come after, but after the real cops
and then got like no response when he walked in.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I feel like that that happened. That it's really funny.
Now I have to text my mom.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, and if it didn't, you need to write that
into something because that's so fun.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, they went up, and then they were really just
getting told off and then they all just sat there
and then the real stripper showed up dressed like a cop,
and then everyone was just sort of like, look.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
We try, we're being quiet, leave us alone. I'm so sorry,
we'll figure this out.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the guys like, well, so, what I was gonna
say is that the thing that I have noticed, and
I don't know if there's anything to do about this,
but a lot of times after the fun has been
had and you know, the ones have come out and
the routine is over, and it's really uncomfortable to then watch,
(37:39):
you know, our professional dancer stripper have to a collect
the ones on the ground. You know, that's never that's
never going to be easy to sit through. And then
also like grab what is usually a black Duffel bag
and either put their clothes on in front of you
(38:00):
you or go into a bathroom to do it. Those
moments are hard, you know, and I've survive on a
T shirt like I've lived through.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I lived through watching it, even.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talking about it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You just heard about my experience at Girls' night, Like
I feel like hives forming on my body.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I just had another moment this I do know happen.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I remember this was like the power of like you know,
like like the little mouse or something, thinking that she
can like overcome the elephants or whatever is. I remember
them all. I remember hearing women chanting take it off.
And I remember in my Blair Witch pose like and
turned to the wall going like, you know, keep it,
keep it on, seeing if it could like get so trash, really.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
So sad, it's so sad.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Then me with my purple popsicle later and then my
boyfriend being like so I was it was a fun
hanging out with the girls. I was like, I can
talk about it, so scared.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Another question, somebody's not a fact, but I realized you
and I are now learning that we're like the ying
to each other's yang.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yes, I feel like we would be great.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We would find a nice ye meddle and I would
save you from some things and you would push me
to maybe like open my eyes and turn around.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You never Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
This question is from Erica from Philidelphia. She says one
of the most underrated characters on New Girl was Sadie.
Not only was she super funny, but she was able
to help Ceci through a really difficult fertility scare as
a professional. I always wish we'd had more of Sadie
through the series, where there are talks of bringing in
June Diane Raphael More if she came back in a reboot.
(39:38):
What do you think Sadie would be doing?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
All we get all day longest questions of reunion is
there reunion reunion?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
About what would the like the most beloved characters if
we did a reunion be doing.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It's so funny though, because I think I think people
think they want a reunion. But and that's one exception
to that, I am very much so a fan of
and just like that, I really enjoyed they spin off.
It is a different I view it, and I know
a lot of people have a lot of feelings about it,
but I personally like, I very much so enjoy that show.
(40:18):
And I'm like, this is the this is a reboot
or not a reboot, this is a that show?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
What that?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And I'm I'm framing my answer to this question thinking
about and just like that, because the truth is, not
every character made it back onto the show. Okay, Big
was on and then killed off immediately.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
There.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
And what I loved about that is like, Okay, if
you do imagine characters or a people and you cut
to fifteen years into the future or whatever, not every
relationship stanns right, people die, you know, like shit happens,
and in particular, so I love about it just like
(41:05):
that is it's like it, yeah, Samantha, I know you
know the real reasons why she's not back in the
feud or whatever. But the truth is, I see you Ice.
That makes sense to me that Samantha and Carrie are
no longer friends like that they had a major falling out.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what happens in life, not
everything moves forward.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
New Girl had that thing right where they were really
authentic with their relationships with their friendships, like people you
know would. It was easier for them to have like
physical intimacy before emotional intimacy, like they didn't do like
the usual formula on a lot of things, which is
why I think it rang true. Right, So what you're saying,
I think is a lot of merit, because if we
(41:46):
came back and we rebooted the show, there would have
to be some real authentic shifts that would happen with
that kind of time span. So one, who do you
think we'd have to kill? Two which relationship would be done?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
The will they won't? They is gone, they won't? And
three what is Sadie do it?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
God? Oh, I don't know that I could kill anyone.
I'm just a guest star. That's not really my I
don't have that kind of power. I wouldn't dare kill
any of the serious regulars. Honestly, I can't believe. And
I love him so much, but actually I don't know
that Jake, I don't know that he now I'm not
(42:33):
going to say his character dies, but I could see him.
I could see sort of a tragic end, you know.
But something like this is actually my fear. I always
felt scared that I'll die in a way that's so dumb,
that people will have a hard time grieving me because
(42:54):
they'll be like, oh, we're so sad, what a devastating loss.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
But also like, with the fuck was she thinking? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And like something like that could have happened to him
or Max, you know where It's like, it could be
a really funny opening.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
To the to the spin off.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Or have you really Bad Sisters?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Is that what happens Bad Sisters, which Brett Baron Dave
Finkel are a part of.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You had just watched the opening scene.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Okay, I recommend it to everybody, but one of it
starts with the funeral. It's not giving anything away, but
one of the best and funniest openings, like how to
do Comedy and death perfectly.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Oh wonderful. I have to see it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Maybe Sharon Morgan, who's my absolute favorite, I can't believe
I haven't seen it. So sometimes it's hard for me
to get to Apple TV and I don't know why,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Hard for me to find my way there.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
What doctor Sadie would be up to. I have to
imagine that. You know, sherobably had a mental breakdown during
COVID you know, so many healthcare professionals did. I think
that maybe she's still recovering from that. I guess she
has a baby now. I don't think that she and
kay Hannon made it, you know, the long haul. Maybe
(44:20):
there's some custody issues. See every pitch I'm going to
have is so dark and so upsetting, like it's not
going to be what you want.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
We found you on a day, We really phoned you
on a day to day.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, honestly, like I think that I think that doctor
Sadie is maybe sober, but know that it took a
while to get there. Okay, and it won pretty journey.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
By the way, this show I would watch whatever is
doctor Sadie's journey, I.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Mean was not easy. Yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I feel like she tried her hand at stripping.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I can just see the Duffel bag in doctor Sadie's hand.
You used to be like her medical bag, her medical
equipment bag, and now her little nurse's outfit has just
got like a whole different.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Meaning, yeah, you know, doctor Sadie's like a onion, Like
who knows she could have gone so many different ways.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Yeah, but yeah I will.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I always say, like, I think I said this to
Kay too. When we did the Eggs episode. It was
a very pivotal episode in my real life because we
were all I feel like you were sitting with us
on the back of this golf cart and she was
talking about how she knew that her husband was the one,
(45:56):
and I was like, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I was dating a.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Guy at the time. I remember being the conversations yes,
go on though.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah I remember because she said, you know, when you
look into the eyes of your boyfriend or your partner
and you can see your children's faces, you can see
what your babies will look like. And I remember being
like and going home to my boyfriend, who I really
(46:25):
cared for at the time, and being like, like it
felt like the end of like you know those curb
scenes where the music playing and I'm like, oh, I
don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
What does that mean? I don't see anything?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And it really kind of got in my head like
a little bug and then with the next person I dated,
it was wild.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
It was just I don't know if it's.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
A litmus test, it was well, it's also that age.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know in your life where you're kind of going
like you're looking for different things and you're looking for
something more at a partner than just like yes, whatever the.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Fun side, and so it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
But I remember sitting on the back of the golf
cart and it was one of those weird like art
and life like yes moments where we're doing this episode
about eggs and we're not in our twenties anymore, and
it just felt really weird.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It was supposed to be about Zoe's character, but it
really is.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
About CC being a good friend and finding out that
she's got like a situation going on and putting pressure
on her. But then walking away from that set sitting
on the back of the golf cart with amazing women
who are just like really sharing like some eye opening
moments for themselves, and then you're having these real impacts
in your relationships. You know.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's the cool thing about you know for listeners who
I feel like a lot of people are like, oh,
what is it like on set? I'm so curious about
TV and film, and I know I was complaining about
working hours, but there's something to be said for and
this is why actors get a bad rap. I love actors,
(48:01):
Love actors. They're just open and wonderful people. Sorry, but
one thing I love about being on set is and
it's sort of change now with phones and a lot
of people are on their phones. I'm really not because
I'm like, this is such a precious experience. I was
leaving my phone on my trailer because of those conversations
(48:22):
where you're like, oh, you're kind of open because you
want to be emotionally available to the scene and you
want to be present, and so when you're walking onto
a set and trying to prepare for whatever the scene
is and thinking about it, and then you have these
real life conversations that end up being just so incredible
(48:48):
and you learn so much about people. And it's one
of the things I think I struggled with the most
during the pandemic was like the loss of those of
being on set and having I don't know, it feels
like it's a different portal where you can it's not
weird to have that conversation on a golf cart.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah, it's just not.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
It wasn't. It was like, it's true.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
There is sort of like with wonderful actors and that
you get to meet you all of a sudden go
really deep into these conversations, and it's people that aren't
scared of those conversations.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I would think it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I get asked a lot about like chemistry, right because
people talk about like chemistry with uc and Schmidt or
with Justin Nick or whatever, or the cast in general.
And I'm sure for you know a lot of people,
their definition of it is they talk about chemistry. It's
like they think about it like in real life terms,
like ooh, I really want to do this thing with
(49:47):
that person, Like might some delicious chemistry like that. But
for me, the chemistry was especially like when I was
working with Max. But then you'd have phenomenal people like
yourself come on the show where it.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Was just like.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
True trust, yeah, like is something unspoken and that is
just something between two people where you know you're about
to be really vulnerable and to try something silly or
weird or bizarre, and the other person is looking at
you dead in the eye, and you's got a bunch
of crews standing around you going like.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I got you, go for it, Go for it.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I got you, be cool, try it? Who cares? Try it?
Get weirder with it.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
And it was that's like you were talking about like
your first scene. You remember that feeling, and I do
feel like it was one thing that New Girl did
just had naturally on that set, which was like it
was team show, Yeah, who can make this the funniest go?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
We got you.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
We'll keep pushing it go. And it was like and
it took me about a year to kind of get
out of my own head of feeling just super lucky
to be there where I was like, oh, like this
is really safe and if it doesn't work, they're not
going to air it, right, but we we're just going
to try all these things, which is why we became
like in this weird like alt Land a lot of
(51:04):
the time too, where they're even like the writers, everybody
was just like like, let's go, let's keep.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Trying to do more.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
And sometimes I got like a lot more sure and
but that energy, that chemistry of trust of being able
to just do it. Yeah, And there was no competition
as in like who's the funny like you said, the
funniest person, but how do we make the show the
funniest yes, or the most real, Like I really need
to get there to a place where I have to
(51:31):
cry or break down or do the thing.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And I got you there too.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
So well, and I think that, you know, it is
such a technical creative space where it's like it's more
technical than creative. There's you know, technicians and camera lenses
and equipments and wires and and there's more of that
than there are people who are in the scenes and
(51:57):
trying to embody this part, right, so you really I
also think for women there's another challenge, which is most
crews are predominantly male. That's starting to change, especially though
when we were starting New Girl that was the case.
That is the that is the standard of our industry,
which is that most crew members are men. And so
(52:20):
as a woman artist, to come onto a set and
already feel like I'm being I'm I am stripping down
to well probably taking my clothes off if I got
the part I wanted, but I'm I actually, my job
(52:41):
here is to look stupid. My job here is to
fail to push so far that I'm making a choice
that I think maybe people won't like, you know, and
I think for women in particular, there's that added challenge
of the sort of good girl like mentality like I
got this job, so now I just have to do
(53:02):
it right. And art is not interesting when it's correct,
it's interesting when it's not.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
And so I do think actresses.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Have this added weight of like, how do I feel
free and open and wanting to fail, not just not
avoiding failure so that the network executives don't get upset
with me, so that the showrunner doesn't come out and
give me notes, so that my co star like doesn't
think I'm wasting time, you know, all of the things
(53:34):
that run through our heads. And that's you know. I
I still I've gotten a lot better with it through
the course of my career, where I'm like, oh, now
I have a new standard, which is actually to risk more.
But and I think you get a little older, the
vanity piece in some ways gets harder, but some ways,
(53:55):
like with kids, now I'm like, you know what, the
end of the day, I'm going home to two people
who like really think I'm great. So I'm ultimately good
no matter how this day ends.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah, but it is. It is.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
It's not an actor's medium. It's a director's medium TV film,
and so it's like we're told like, hey, they're ready,
go and but we never get the opportunity to say, like,
but hold on, I'm not ready, because then you're difficult.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, I mean, I will say that was one of
the sweetest things in my working with Max Greenfield a
lot is that are like the characters like Ark all
of a sudden got a little complicated emotional hurt fault,
Like you know, there's cheating involved and like fertility issues
involved and all this stuff that my character had to
gun and all of a sudden jump in And sometimes
(54:52):
I'd be only working one day a week, so then
you can show up and it's like and go and
you have to get in it. And that's when I
talk about chemistry. That's what was the great chemistry between
Max and I is that he was just like the
He's just an incredible scene partner who was just like,
I'm gonna sit no matter what everybody else is saying,
(55:13):
We're gonna sit in this until we get there, and
I got you and just keep pushing. It was just
like a beautiful thing of trust. And it was the
same when I would do scenes with Zoe and they.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Were just like easily best friends out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And it's like it's like five in the morning, and
we had to just kind of like find our path
into like the thing we had each other, and it
was really, it was really, that was just like a
wonderful thing. I also remember them trying to put like
CC and Coach together.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
I don't even know this.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
They tried to have his date and have a relationship
on the show. And Damon and I.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
We had to do this big kiss outside the loft
and he.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Had to like pick me up and like beholding me
and like against a wall, and I.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Think I chipped his tooth.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Then I think he tried to pick me up and
then he kind of dropped me and then made a
comment about like, well I can't because this part's big,
and I was like you say, and we were just
dying laughing, And then finally Video Village was dying laughing
and they were just like, whatever the thing is with
you guys in real life, Like you're so deep in
brother Sister land in real life, Yeah, your bodies are
(56:18):
like the opposite ends of the mega and are just
they're running from each other, and so they flip the
whole nature of our relationship, and then it kind of
it just it became like we were friends and we
were helping everybody else. And the fact that they show
could see those things and just embrace it and be like,
all right, let's pivot and make this work so that
(56:40):
we can keep the energy. Yeah, exactly authentic in the show,
because when you watch it, you know when it's bullshit
and you're like.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We have well, this is not the thing.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Well. It's funny though, because I've also had the experience
of thinking I have amazing chemistry with this person and
then watching it and being like, oh god, that didn't translate.
And then the opposite has been true too, where I'm
like I have got nothing with this gentleman, like he
is toxic to me. I can't believe I have to
(57:09):
fake whatever, and then seeing it on screen and being like, god,
damn it. What I was playing as repellent is weirdly
reading in this camera as interest. And so I do
think that's often true as well, which is like the
camera is taking on things and they're seeing things in
(57:33):
video village that are like it's just different. Yeah, And
that's I'm not a director. That's the mystery of like
what directors do.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
But it's one of those moments when they're like okay,
got it, and you're like, really, you really get it
because I feel.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Like I promise you I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's straight. I didn't get it, Like.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
I will never move on to the scene.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Those are the worst drives home too. You're driving home
and you're just like, oh.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
I always figure the scene on the drive home. Always. Always,
That's what I meant there.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, June, I love you. Thank you for coming on
this Weird Wiley podcast of us.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
I'm so happy to be here, so nice to think
about New Girl and the massive you know success it was,
and also just what a lovely experience it was. So
thank you for having me, and I beg all of
you to not fact track a word I've said.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Not a word you can say.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
I always know whenever I get really happy, like I
mix up my words.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Even now, it's like coming on this.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Weird Wiley podcast of us because my brain is just
going it's us, it's us right here, and I can't
even say of ours, well, that is our show. W
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