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October 25, 2023 37 mins

What’s going on with these couples being secretly separated? 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Chris Harrison and Lauren Zeema coming to you from the
home office in Austin, Texas. And it has been a huge,
huge weekend here in Austin. We are saying goodbye to
house guests who are leaving because they've been in for

(00:21):
Formula one. The world has come to Austin, Texas, and
we are now saying goodbye to everybody. It's been such
a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
So both of our first f one experiences. For those
who might not know Formula one is racing? Does that
he describe it? I mean, it's it's the.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Okay, I went into a pretty that's all unaware, per usual.
Did a poll on my Instagram. Is professional racing a sport?
Seventy percent of people said yes. Thirty percent of people
said no. Like let me, I mean, listen, we all
know how I feel about sports. Now I will say
this is certainly an elevated sporting experience. Lots of ava,

(01:00):
leble cocktails, lots of available seating. We were in the shade,
which I'm grateful for. But like, I do think these
drivers are athletes because they seem to have to really
work out and it's a very physically demanding situation. Right,
But the car is also very.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Involved, right this? Okay, so this is the car your teammates.
I like that. I love your perspective. I know we're
not going to dive into sports and get too deep
in the weeds here, but I love that you your
thirty thousand foot perspective is great. Like, the car seems
pretty involved here, it is incredibly evolving.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, some people debate cheerleading. I'm like, there's no question
for me. Cheerleading's a sport athleticism, dangerous, super physically.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Easily the most dangerous sport.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
With this, you got a car, and you're paying for
the car. But then I think maybe the cars your
teammate people are. You know, you pay a lot for
really good athletes on your team.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So I guess it's just say, do you feel about
jockeys in horse racing? Because the horse power is kind
of important, the horses, the.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Horse your teammates. Yes, as we head into the world
of artificial and intelligence, the car could really become your teammate.
It could talk right back to you. And so so
I'm here to say I agree with the seventy percent.
F one is a sport.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It is. And look here's here. Because I was a
sportscaster for a long time and people say, well, bowling
or golf. I said, look, not all sports are created.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Is not a sport? Bowling is a game that might
be a hot take. Bowling's a game.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow, Norm Duke rolling over in his grave. I just
named a professional bowler. So this it is. It's a
very interesting debate of what is a sport? Who are athletes?
And you're right, yeah, Bowling's a game. You and I
can go do it. I can also go play golf.
But so we went to F one. And here's the
cool thing about F one. This is an inn.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
How cute the drivers are.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
How cute the drivers are? This is this was let's
pause for that a number one.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh, he doesn't want to talk this.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I'm going to say. This absolutely happened in my
truck on the way to catch our ride to the
F one, which we'll talk about in a minute. Lauren
and our other house guests decided to look up on
rank dot com who the hottest F one drivers are.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, you're me, It's okay, I don't know what ranger
dot com is that I know. So we looked at
we googled hottest drivers in Formula one ranked, and what
comes up is ranker dot com the hottest F one
driver's rank. So was the best Google of my life.
Google really delivered exactly what we were looking for, as
did ranker dot com. Now here's the thing. A lot
of people, and including our friends who are staying with us,

(03:25):
I've gotten into F one because of the Netflix show
Drive to Survive. It's a docuseries following the drivers and
the teams and all that. I actually haven't watched it yet,
maybe I will now, Chris, has you loved it?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I'm obsessed with it. They did such a good job,
but it's made.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It like and I will watch it because I love
sports documentaries. But it's made it kind of explode in
America in the past couple of years in a way
it never had before. So I'm kind of talking to
these other women who are in the car with us,
our friends who love it. I'm like, well, what got
you guys so obsessed with it? And I have heard
from a lot of women it's because the drivers are
cute and.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So that they're Italian they're Dutch.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Speaking foreign languages to us. And I also didn't really realize.
I think I thought it was all about the cars. No,
it is about the drivers. You get to F one
and the drivers pictures are everywhere, and you're kind of,
you know, like you might be team Mercedes, but you're
really like team Lewis Hamilton who drives from Mercedes.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Babe. That was the sexiest that you are dropping.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Knowledge there for like eight hours.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
But still I like that you pick this up. But
you're right, Max Verstappen is the hottest driver in the
world right now.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean talent wise or physically hottest.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Sorry I met talent wise.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, because I would say he's pretty cute too.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I would say he's average in the field of drivers
as far as looks. You know, he's no LaClair, He's
no Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, Well, I enjoyed it. Look at the end of
the day, I respect it. I know a lot of
intelligence and physical labor and money goes into all this.
But they are just driving around in circles and that's
what you're watching for two hours.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, it's not as much NASCAR circling, where you know,
basically NASCAR, you stayed to the left, you get back
as quick as you can. This is you know, winding
roads and turns and hills.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But you can only see so much.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Here's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I'm becoming a cynic, a skeptic. I don't know the
perfect word. Maybe I'm a hater. I'm becoming anti big
live events with tons of people.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's so hard justus. We're getting old.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, I don't Okay, Well, I guess I would be
interested to know years ago how many people like went
to a typical I mean, I don't know. I guess
concerts have always been big, but for example, at this point,
concerts tours. Every stop on a tour is so many people,
and events like this are so many people that it's
so hard to feel like like up close with the event.

(05:58):
And then I will also say, now, television production has
gotten so good that if you're watching this F one
race from home, they're cutting to a million cameras and
they're inside the pit, and they've got mics on the
drivers and the cars, and you're hearing what the drivers
are saying. The at home experience I think is better.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
There are certain sports that we created here in America
for and we didn't create all the sports, but for TV.
They're made for TV football you can see from end
to end, you can see all the players. But even that,
HDTV has kind of ruined that experience because I would
much rather sit at home and watch the Masters or
watch golf because I can watch every hole instead of

(06:36):
just one. And you're right when you're at Formula one,
which is a huge international following, it has for so
many decades. But when you're there, you're talking about a
four square mile area that tracks about over three miles,
so you can't see all three miles clearly, but hundreds
of thousands of people pack into this huge park to

(06:57):
watch this.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Now, I do want to, on the note of all
those people, give you credit for delivering the classic Bachelor experience.
When it came to how we arrived and left this race,
I was spoiled. I am grateful. There were a ton
of people, and we had heard it was taking three
hours to get in and out of the track.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So we did get on a helicopter and we flew
in and out, and Chris Harrison gave me the Bachelor
experience with the helicopter and it was awesome and it
was like a five minute helicopter ride, So thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That was wee.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I was very spoiled.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Luckily we have the friends that we were able to
find a chopper ride in and so we just flew
right and it was beautiful to fly over Austin and
into the track and see it from that vantage point
and also get out. The main thing is getting out
because when you arrive, everyone kind of arrives at a
different time. But at sporting events, when it's over, that's

(07:54):
go time, and so when hundreds of thousands of people
leave at the same time, it's a nightmare. So we
did fly out.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know who flew out right before us, We saw him,
Prince Harry. Yeah, and it was.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Interesting becausead Or a least favorite redhead.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Oh my god. Well, we were thinking about, like I know,
we've talked about Harry and Meghan before and we've kind
of had our we could get into it. We've had
our varying opinions that my opinion on them has swayed
back and forth so much over the past couple of years,
starting with when I went with Entertainment Tonight and I
covered their wedding. I was in England, in Windsor. They drove,
they went by me in the carriage in there on

(08:41):
their wedding day, and it was such a beautiful day.
I was so happy. Everyone was so happy and excited
for this new chapter for the royal family and how
far they fall, and like, it was really interesting because
Harry literally, you guys, we saw him. He was just
to I mean, I don't know how many yards away
from us was he. We saw him getting on the
hell of that was taking off before us. And I

(09:02):
think in years past, the people who are near us
would have been like, oh my god, Prince Harry, we
love him. Oh my god. People barely even got out
of their chairs to glance. Nobody cared. And then everyone said,
oh he annoys me.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And I'm like, wow, the so let me paint the
picture for you. There's a couple of tents. There was
a couple of companies running these choppers and it's like,
I mean, it's a buffet. You're just they're running you
in and out, just getting people on choppers, getting you
out and coming back. And so this Mercedes pulled up
and there's you know, a bunch of us just milling
around waiting for our turn to kind of get on
the helicopter and this Mercedes pulls up, tinted windows, not

(09:38):
much fanfare it. It was the only car that was
allowed to kind of pull out towards the helicopters. The
rest of us, you know, lower people. We walked and
the car opens and it's Prince Harry. And like you said,
there was one dude holding a beer goes huh Prince Harry,
and everyone else was like huh. The amount of apathy too.

(10:03):
Nobody cared at all that Prince Harry was getting out,
And it was funny because they they were making more
pomp and circumstance at him. His his security was there,
and his security.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Was rushing him, rushing him in and out.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know, guarding him and holding like as if someone
I don't know, someone's going to take a shot at him.
But it was really funny because.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I don't want him to mean, I'm sure he has
real security.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Nobody could have cared less or cared more, especially.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
With the women. I thought a few years ago, oh yeah,
I mean people crushed on Prince Harry. It would have been,
oh my gosh, there.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
He is, and no one even pulled out their phones.
Now one person took a picture. No one took video,
and I know they showed him on the telecast, so
I saw him there. But it was really funny that,
you know, of all the celebrities there, you know, I know,
Drew Barrymore was there cold.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Joe Rogan had gotten on a chopper a few minutes
before us. Some people were way more excited that Joe.
They'd seen Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know what's funny too, is when to hear people talk.
I I love being a fly on the wall when
people talk about celebrity. He's that. And I'm not friends
with Joe Rogan, but I know him and I know
his past, and I know where he comes from, his
comedic background and how he got to his show, The
Crazy Show where they ate all the crazy stuff, oh
fear Fact, deear Factor. And it's funny to be able

(11:15):
to hear people make up what they think they know
because so they're they're like, well, yeah, he does his
podcast now, but he did the fighting thing. The guy's
like UFC. Yeah, They're like was he a fighter and
they're like, yeah, yeah, he was a fighter, and they're
like they come up with this crazy thing about his life.

(11:35):
Very little of it was true. I wanted to just
go guys. You know, he was a comedian. He worked
the comedy store there on Sunset Boulevard. Then he did
Fear Factor, and it was it was really funny to
hear people, especially when you know them or you know
about them.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, well, this is why studies show that people make
horrible eyewitnesses is very, very wrong most of the time.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're right. There was a buzz in the tent that
Rogan had just come through and got on a chop.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, and you know then, I mean, now I am
going to get into it with the ladies and I
were kind of talking about Harry and Meghan. Again. It's
amazing how much that topic can still kind of fire
me up because I think now there's a lot of talk,
you know, the show Suits is crushing it on streaming.
There's talk about a revival of the show Suits, and
we were wondering would Meghan come back and do that?

(12:20):
Would she act again? I think very much potentially yes,
because what else are they doing And at a certain
point they're going to need money. I mean, I know
Bill Simmons, who runs The Ringer, had come out and
called them grifters and said they just try to get
stuff for free all the time, which was a pretty
damning statement. But one of our friends said, or maybe,
as you said, I don't think she'd do that because

(12:40):
she's going to think she's above it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
My take is this, and it is a little bit
of that. She would love to do it. I bet
if you asked deep down and she gave an honest answer,
she would love to come back and do it. She
won't probably allow herself because she needs to feel like
she's above it. She needs to be above it and
this status in life, the where she is now. Look,
they made it be a step down for her to
come back and act on an easily little show.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
They made a huge amount of money. I thought, way
too much money on their Netflix deal for that docuseries
in terms of what they've actually delivered Netflix, the amount
of content they've delivered for how much Netflix paid.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
They've delivered them a dumpster fire of debt.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I mean, I mean, then they made way too much
money on the Spotify deal. Her podcast has now been
canceled and Spotify way overpaid for that. I know, Harry,
they got a huge book deal. Harry delivered that book.
Oh that four hundred page book that I couldn't get through,
and he's still got two more books left on that deal.
I don't know. I don't know how much they have
to spend day and day out for their various expenses,

(13:39):
but it's just kind of a wild moment of realizing
again how far they've fallen. And you know, we've talked
about them on the podcast before. I remember even when
we watched the docuseriies, there were many moments where I
related to them. I relate to Harry, and I understand
and empathize that Harry was born into this a limelight
like Noah, his mother died tragically. The British media was

(14:04):
horrible to him. They tapped his phone when he was
a teenager. I mean, he went through so much. But
then now there is there are these moments where you're like, like,
when Harry is you know, I don't know in his
book and he opens the book by revealing a very
private moment with his brother and his father that happened
at his grandfather's funeral, and then that infamous audio where

(14:25):
he's talking about putting cream on his frost bit.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And peanuts on is Todder and I rubbed it on
my Taja and he's.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Thinking about his mother at the time. I'm just saying facts.
This is actually what's in the book. If you haven't
heard it, look up the clips.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
So the problem is we've gotten to a dark place
there people, not everybody. I'm painting with a broadbrush, but
a lot of people love the dirt. They want to
hear the dirt. But when you are the one giving
all the dirt, you become tainted. When you fire all
your cannons at once, which Harry and Meghan did. They
came out firing on all cylinders, just telling everybody everything

(14:59):
they could and at the same time, and I think
exaggerating a lot, exaggerating a ton, you know, pretending that
paparazzi were chasing them, and when kind of like yesterday,
nobody cared, I know at all.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm not saying the paparazzi have never chased, but I
think it was exaggerated in the docu series, and we
saw it firsthand yesterday.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Nobody cared. There was not the drunk guy with a
bud like an couldn't even lift up his phone to
take a picture. But the when you fire all your
cannons at once like that, people kind of sour on
you quickly, and that's what's happened with them.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think, you know, And it was interesting to hear
our friends, who two of our friends are in media
and in the business, two of them are not, but
to just hear their takes, how they're so over them,
and how they also were like kind of so grossed
out by it all, you know. I think at the

(15:51):
end of the day, what people feel is that Harry
and Meghan wanted everything the royal family came with. Yeah,
but then we're annoyed by it, and then I want
everyone to stop talking about them, but then wanted to
keep talking about it. It's like, you can't.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Want the upside, but I want to do it all
my terms.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And you can't have it all. You can't have it always.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And I think that they have also set you know,
everybody has really soured on them in Hollywood because they
came in hot with like Tyler Perry and Oprah and
everybody's backing them and we're going to do this, We're
going to do this and then we're going to take
over the world. And as Bill Simmons said, they have
not performed and they've not delivered because they don't want
to work. They don't want to do the work. They
just want to kind of it handed to them and

(16:33):
get the riches without the spoils, without doing the effort
and the work. And so this business takes a lot
of effort, and they're not doing that. So, you know,
it's funny. You don't hear the Tyler Perry's anymore. You
don't hear the Oprahs, you don't hear all their big
celebrity friends defending them and putting them forefront anymore. It's
just all died away, very very quietly. And then you
end up on a helipad at F one and Austin.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I mean, we'll see what happens. I think he was
there because he was friends with Lewis Hamilton is friends
with him. And there were, by the way, some people
who were there. We didn't even get to see our
dear Caitlin Bristow. We're texting with her whole weekend. There
are too many people we literally could not physically get.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Till Ari and Lauren were there, yes, And I was
texting with him. And the funny thing is he was
I said, where were you? Because he came in as
a guest of somebody and so we were in Turn nineteen.
He was in Turn twelve. Logistically that was probably a
couple miles away.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
So let me let me ask if this is rude. Huh. Well, sometimes,
for example, it's hard. It's hard when you like you
want to see people and you're like you physically can't
see people. I wanted to see my friend Nicole, she
was a volunteer at Experience Camps with me. I couldn't
get to her because also we had no service. I mean,
there's how many people were.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
There, hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Literally a text wouldn't go through, so you couldn't even communicate.
But sometimes, like when you and I have gone to
New York before, I won't post when we're there, in
part because I don't want people to not know we're
not in our home. I don't know if we've ever
talked about this, but you were robbed in Los Angela's Yes,
and I'm still freaked out by.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
While I was at Pebble Beach playing in the at
and t pro am, I was robbed.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You were robbed, and you saw you know, our house
is broken in.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I watched it live because I have cameras in my house.
This and this is when I was a bachelor as well.
So I had cameras in my house, cameras around my house,
and I literally, as all my alarms are going off,
I turned on my video to watch and I saw
people breaking into my house, walking around my house. I
was on the phone with the cops while a gang
was rummaging through my house. It was the weirdest thing

(18:30):
in the world.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And they eventually got caught and you had to go
testify about it.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I did, and by the way, shout out to the
Lost Hill Sheriff's Department back in Westlake Village. They did.
They stayed on the case, and I testified against them
because I had the best video of they literally stuck
their faces into cameras in my house. They didn't know
I had cameras, so they were looking through my drawers
and stuff and it was great.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well anyway, so I never I try to not say
when we're out of town when we're actually out of town.
So but sometimes also like if we go to New
York for something, I don't always posts that were there
because then unfortunately you get I mean, we have a
lot of great friends there, and then everybody wants to
see you and you it's hard to make time. Is
that rude?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
No, it's no rude. But you know, obviously all our
friends know that we live here in Austin, so already
reached out. Caitlyn reached out.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I wish we could have seen them.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, and it's funny. We tried it.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Just we had people in town. I got a great
just making excuses for us, but I feel bad and
I left them and I wanted to see them.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I got a really funny text message about because obviously
we we kind of were putting up joking about how
we wrote in a helicopter taf one yesterday. Do you
remember Kaylin from Emily Maynard season of the Batch. So
there was this guy he was painted as the villain.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh oh, the guy you left on the ice? No
I got the tattoo.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
No no, no, no, no though that was that was
Ali Fedotowski season when we left him on a glacier.
That was funny and the garden protect my Heart guy.
But no, So Kaylin came in on Emily's season in
a helicopter.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I remember this, he wrote in and he just with
the clip.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So night one, everybody arrives. You know, Jeff Holme is
there he came in on his back to the Future.
He came in on the skateboard, and but Kaylan rode
in on a helicopter. Of course, that just made him
He's that guy, good guy, that guy. So I posted
that yesterday and I get a text message from Kaylan

(20:21):
of all people, and he says exactly how I would
have done it, and I was like, that was so good.
So Kaylin, thank you for the comedic relief. Brother. That
was really funny. I love that he is still fully
on brand.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Some people are, you know, really bitter and don't like
the way they were painted on the show. I love
that he's owning it. Let's get him back on reality TV.
He's having fun with it.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay. It took me back to that, to that first
night there in Charlotte, North Carolina with Emily Maynard when
he wrote in that was so funny and obviously he
probably didn't come up with that idea at all. I'm
sure it was obviously us as producers. Well, that was
our weekend greatly, So congratulations team Red Bull Max for stapping.
There was controversy when a couple of the guys were disqualified,
but overall it was a great experience, and it is

(21:04):
fun when the world comes to Austin and all our
friends are here because there's parties all week. It's like
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
We were also a little bit of where we weren't
party poopers, what's the right word. We were invited to
a couple event of events and we went to some
and then on Saturday night, we just decided let's stay home,
opened some great wine. We drank six bottles of wine
with six people. I think, so we did well.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Beautiful wines. I barbecued some steaks and look, I didn't put.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Them up to a Chris Harrison volunteered to cook, and
we all just stayed in and drank wine. And I
was so happy with that. Sometimes I gotta say those events,
some are great, some look great on Instagram, and it's
not so fun.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You had a great take last night as we were
lamenting the fact should we have done this? Because there's
always buyer's remorse. There's remorse if you go, there's a
remorse if you don't go. Should I have gone to
this party? And again you see Instagram, You're like, maybe
that was fun? Ian Lauren. They went to a different
party and honestly, they posted about it. It looked like
my nightmare.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well that was like a club set, the club, strobe
lights going, thousands of people music that I could not
here or understand.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
That was my nightmare. But you had a good take
last night when we were like should we have gone
to this? And you said, I don't remember. You said
when when these events are contrived like this for something specific,
they don't often turn out, right.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I think it's hard. I mean, look, when do we
all have the most fun? If we're being honest, like
I think of when events are when parties and that
stuff is pulled together for an event, it's it's just
basic social stuff. It's a lot of people who don't
know each other. You're you're just there trying to look
good and take a good picture. But you're kind of
spending the whole night meeting new people and so maybe

(22:52):
you make a nice connection, but it's a lot of
small talk. You're not going to remember it as the
best night of your life.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Right, you know, it's New Year's so much pressures put it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, when you're having a party at your if you
know we're gonna have a Halloween party, When we're having
a Halloween party at our house. I'm putting a lot
of effort in. I want it, but we're inviting everybody
we know we're gonna have fun. Or honestly, even I
will give a little more credit to like the Oscars
of the Golden Globes or some of those things. It's
very much an industry party, so people tend to know

(23:21):
each other, so that can be a little more fun.
But something like yeah, a bunch of people coming in
from out of town to f one. It's a lot
of meeting new people and you can make new connections.
But I don't think you're gonna remember it as that
was one of the best nights ever and you certainly
wouldn't have enjoyed the EEDM Club music. That's not for you.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
But it was a very sporty sports weekend because you know,
football is going on, Baseball playoffs are going on at
Texas Rangers, God bless them. We have Game seven tonight,
so sorry, we're watching sports again tonight. And there was
Formula one, so Lauren has really really warn it. You
have worn it hard. God bless you. You have given

(24:02):
at the office this week. Wo you deserve a break,
thank you. Yeah, you're not going to get one. Tonight,
but you deserve a break.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, let's take a break and then we'll talk about
a little bit of celebrity news and relationship stuff to
veer away from the sports.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
So among all the sports this weekend with Formula one football, baseball,
another little story dropped about Meryl Streep, and this god
is thinking.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, the latest celebrity trend in relationships seems to be
the secret separation. So first, we heard a week or
so ago about Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith and
she reveals that they have been secretly separated for years.
All I hear from all my friends is Jada, can
you please stop revealing so much? We don't need to

(24:58):
learn anymore. We don't need to hear any more where
it's just too much at this point, like we're burnt out.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I feel like she's going full Megan and Harry it is.
It's any sympathy empathy we had for Jada is gone.
She seems to have really worn that out.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And on the heels of that, now news kind of
came up out of nowhere that Meryl Streep and her
husband are secretly separated and have been for six years.
And this was interesting to me. Because I look as
a member of the media formerly currently, I don't know.
I definitely saw that headline and thought, okay, here's what happened.
In newsrooms, they saw that Jada and Will and the

(25:36):
secret separation was clicking. So then when this other news
of Merrill and her husband were secretly separated, all of
a sudden, it was framed as another secret separation because
it's like trending and the algorithm's going, and that's what
you can call it. What we were wondering is is
a secret separation a thing like if you're a celebrity.

(25:57):
I don't know that you necessarily have to announce that
you've broken up. I don't think that you have to
do that. And I'm not sure a lot of people
knew Meryl Streep was even married.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I was to say I thought Meryl had a secret
marriage because I when when this news came out, I
had to oh, I had no idea she was married.
I don't know much about Meryl Streep's for a private
life or personal life.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, they've been married.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
She's one of my favorite actresses of all time.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
She's a person who it's like she's married. I knew
she's married and she has kids. Some of her kids act,
but her husband isn't someone who would like like, he's
not super well right. It's kind of an Oprah and
Sedman situation.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I think foots. But let's kick over that, ann Hill.
But it is a I agree with you as someone
who publicly got divorced and you know, hosted a relationship
show all about love and got divorced. I kept mine
a secret for quite some time I was separated, and.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Wait, I don't even know how that came out. Did
you announce it or did it get revealed and you
didn't know it was ring No.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I released it via We released a statement to People
magazine and it was oddly enough to bring her back up.
It was during Emily Maynard season. It all kind of
happened during the season before, but then it really came
to be during Emily Maynard season and I was about
to hit the road for the Exotic Overnights, so I

(27:15):
took the kids so we could leave the country and
on a Friday night, we were going to release this statement,
and as I was kind of heading to the airport,
I got a call from one of the publicists at
ABC and they said, we just got a call. This
is really weird. Are you in your ex getting a divorce?
I said, well, yes, it's about to come out in
People magazine and whatever. So we had kept it for

(27:38):
months and months a total secret.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Got it. But then you did ultimately release this.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, but then we did release a statement.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Okay, now I'm looking up here. Okay, I knew Meryl
Streep's husband name was Don Gummer. He's a sculptor. So see,
he's not even in the business. Maybe I'll say it's
a Dolly Parton and her husband's situation. But I okay,
so they've been separated for six years, spokesperson says, and
I just it's also an interesting question of if you've

(28:07):
been married for a really long time, uh huh, and
you're done, like there's no hard feelings, but you're separating
because let's Marylyn Dunn separated six years famous or not?
Do you have to get divorced or is it like
just easier to say we're separated, but like, you know,
legally financially, what do you think.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Depends on age? I guess depends on where you are
in your life, Like is Meryl Streep ever going to
want to date and fall in love again, because then
if Meryl Streep or whoever seen on the streets of
New York with somebody else, like, oh, she's cheating. Like
if I never announced a good point, if I never
announced my divorce, since people saw us making out together,
they'd be like, dude, that guy for the Bachelor's cheating
on his wife.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And you know what, that's a good point because then
the public will never believe you were They'll always think
there was an affair or something, even if you say, wait, no,
we were separated for six years.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, you trying to back into it.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
And that's part of what makes the Will and Jada
thing so confusing, Like I don't even understand it anymore,
because you know, she talked about how she had what
was the word indiscretions or I forget. They sort of
implied that they'd seen other people at different points. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
How about Hugh Jackman and announcing his divorce.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That now, that is a I think a full on split,
and that was very out of nowhere Tomy and I.
Hugh Jackman, he's like the guy every mom I know
has a called my mom, Yes, oh so obsessed with
you Jackman. I mean, now they all think they have
a shot. I was kind of like Hugh Jackman and
Sophia Vergara, they're both single now well stunningly very good

(29:36):
looking coming but it is a I that's my thing.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I guess to answer your question then would be yes,
one hundred percent. I think you need to announce it,
just let it out there, because you want to live
your life and I wouldn't want to live in secret
where everybody just assumes we're together and excellent.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
You want it, you want to move on now, speaking
of living in the public eye, another interesting celebrity relationship revealed.
Drew bear Moore has revealed that she has been in
kind of an on off relationship situationship for like three
and a half years, which is interesting because she's kind
of talked publicly about not being able to find anyone

(30:13):
to date and.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
All that met him on Riah the dating app, which.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Had a real moment. It was a celebrity dating app.
Well you had to you had to be referred by
a friend, and it was allegedly this secret Pighan dating app.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Tenfoil conspiracy theory. Okay, of who this might be because
we don't know yet. He might be involved in Formula One.
So this weekend here in Austin, Texas, I'm looking at
some pictures. Drew Barrymore was here, but she wasn't just
here like hanging out. She was with Team Red Bull
and like really entrenched with them. She had a Red

(30:47):
Bull jersey on. She was in the pits with the
Red Bull team. She was with the like taking pictures
with the pit crew and the car. And that's not
a like. I don't think Drew Barrymore Formula One, team
Red Bull, what is the connection? There's this is my conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I think, Oh, I think you could be very.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Might be dating someone from Team Red Bull.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And it would make sense with what she just said,
because basically, she came out and said that she was
inspired to not keep this soweto wraps anymore. She wants
to be feel more free and not be so scared
and go more public with this relationship because she saw
Taylor Swift at all of Travis Kelsey's football games so
early on. Drew basically said, Taylor's just started dating this guy.

(31:31):
She's living her life. She's not in hiding. I want
to do the same. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
When this comes out, just say you heard it here First,
there's someone in Team Red Bull.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Do you think it's a driver because Max her stapping is.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Different cri it wouldn't be Max.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know, it's someone I know he has a different girlfriend.
He's stating a model or yeah. And so she after
me looking him up on ranker dot com.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yes, and they were kissing after the big win yesterday.
So that's just my total. I have zero evidence or
science behind this. Just I was putting two and two
together and I heard this story and the other thing
that made me think about it when she said she
was on Riah and that's where they met. I'm like,
who else would have been on Riyah? A guy that
was kind of famous, kind of in the world.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
If you hadn't heard of Riyah? Could you didn't have
to be like a celebrity, You could be just you know, you.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Were supposed to be someone of somewhat prominence.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yes, someone successful in their field, and you had to
be referred by people to be on the app.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
And that Formula one World is just sexy enough to
be on Riah. So just food for thought, kids. But
it is interesting that I understand the pressure of wanting
to keep things secret. So do you when we started dating.
We were under wraps for six months before we decided, okay,
let's do this publicly, because again, you don't want to

(32:49):
date and break up and date and break up publicly
because you have to relive it and live it and
then and then it gets brought up. Our picture is
in every magazine every time Chris is dating someone new
that there's the picture of Laura and he was just
dating her three months ago. And now you have this
track record and it helps Taylor swift. It's her brand.
You can write songs about it. Those pictures don't hurt her.

(33:12):
I don't want to relive every person I've ever dated
and be seen that much, so I didn't mind flying
under the radar. My thing with Drew Barrymore that I
also thought was interesting. Girl, it's been three and a
half years. So she was saying, I'm excited, I'm inviting
him to a wedding. We're going to kind of go public. Damn,
three and a half years.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
A long time.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's a long time. It's a long.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Time to not invite someone just if you're a normal
person to be like, we've been dating three years and
I'm just now going to bring them as my date
to a wedding.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
It makes me question their relationship more than anything.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
It feels I would bring someone to a wedding as
my date after a matter of months of dating.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, and look, if it gets out you and I
did do that. We were at parties, we were at events,
not public events. They were things that you and I
from friends. So look if it had leaked out because
of that, fine, But you know, never doing something just
like going to a wedding, something so simple, I'm like, Wow,
that's who.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Do you introduce someone to first when you're dating your
friends or your family friends? Friends? For sure.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I mean that's what I did with you.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
That's what I think, That's what I've always done. I mean,
you you want to go out socially and you want
to know what your friends think. And then when it's
more serious family. A wedding is interesting because friends and
family could be there.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, but you just said something very interesting friends, because
family is more judgmental, judgmental, protective. Just that you know,
traditionally that's a step meaningful. Yeah, it's that step. Whether
it is real or not. Maybe it's just made up
in our minds from Hollywood, all those years of meet
the parents. It's just there is that proverbial meet the

(34:47):
parent moment. It's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So how soon is too soon to introduce someone to
your family or to go very public and have them
meet all your people in your relationship.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
It depends so many variables, how old you are, what
stage I mean, it's I thought it honestly at our age.
I think it's a little more casual and say, your
parents live in town, you're just together. You know, for
us our parent it was a bigger deal because our
parents live out of town. There was a conscious effort
this is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Now, Yeah, it had to happen when they came into town.
I do think if you have young kids that something
to consider, of course.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I also think I've been in relationships before where I
met someone's family too soon at like and not because
I wanted to. They wanted to introduce me, and I
felt like, this is moving too fast and I should
have spoken up more. And because also when you get
to know someone's family. I've cautioned my siblings against this.
It can sometimes accelerate the seriousness or amplify a connection

(35:48):
you think you have with someone because actually you're connecting
with their family or I would throw friends into this too,
like just be aware that you really like the person,
that you aren't loving their whole world, and that that's
over inflating how good your relationship is. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
It does, no, one hundred percent. I've met parents too early,
and it's whether it was intended or not. It puts
so much pressure on the relationship. In me, I'm like, damn,
I know her mom now, Like it's you know, and
if and then you get the if she's on the
phone with her mom, she'll put her on speaker on
with Chris and they're like, Hi, we're not here yet.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Well I don't want to be saying hi to mom
on on the speakerphone yet.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I know, because it feels so big. It does. But yeah,
Drew Barrymore, I mean this is their direct quote. I
invited him to a wedding next weekend and he said, wow,
after three and a half years, you are going to
invite me to a wedding. Drew, I side with the guy.
I think you could have taken him to a wedding sooner.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It makes me question the relationship more than get excited
about it. But we will see if it comes to
bear fruit on the f one side. But it was
a great weekend. We have a busy couple of weeks
ahead and I hope everybody is doing good as we
head into Halloween and this time of year. It has
been and so good talking to you and LZ. I

(37:03):
just want to make it public. We are not secretly separated.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
We're secretly on our way to being No, we're publicly
on our way to being very much together.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, we're publicly on this path to being married. And
I couldn't be more excited about it, and I couldn't
be more excited to talk to all of you each
and every time we get the opportunity to do this,
and we will do it again because we have a
lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us
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(37:35):
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