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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
home office in Austin, Texas. And it is week two
of Taylor Gate. I thought, you know, this story might
kind of just go off into the ether. But last

(00:23):
night we're taping this on Monday. It is Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Sunday Night Taylor.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's what I'm Sunday Night Taylor. It is Taylor Swift
at New York to see the Kansas City Chiefs and
of course Travis Kelcey play the New York Jets. And
the entire broadcast started off with Taylor Swift talking about
Taylor Swift. We go to the sideline reporter to talk
about Taylor Swift. It is her walking into the game.

(00:52):
It is a huge, huge deal.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, so I did not think it was just going
to go away, but I thought it can go one
of two ways. If they're really starting to kind of
date each other, then she's going to be at this game,
and she's going to be at subsequent games, and they're
going to totally play into this. If it was just
a one time publicity thing and they were kind of
given the fans a little show and both capitalizing on it,

(01:16):
but you know, all in good fun. Then it would
have been a one off. So now I think it's
real and they're really starting to date.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, I just thought, Taylor Swift is a busy woman,
and you know, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Taking a break right now before the world stops of
her tour, before the internationaliste.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
You know how it is when you are the most influential,
the most famous woman in the world. Even though you're
on a break, you're not on a break. She's doing
a million things, probably shooting commercials and all this stuff.
So I just figured, is she going to have time
to go to New York and show up at a games?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's a better commercial? I know, for her upcoming theatrical
release of her documentary and for her world tour stops.
What's better press? Then? Isn't Sunday Night Football the biggest
television event period.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sunday Night Football is huge, The ratings are massive.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
It has ever beat Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
It involved the biggest network market in the world, New
York City. She's in the big Apple. Obviously, she has
a song, so it worked out perfect.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Welcome to New York.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, Welcome to New York, Taylor Swift. And so here's
the thing about the size the scope of Taylor Swift.
And I know, look, I got both sides of the coin.
People are like, I'm so done with this. I don't care.
But here's the fascinating thing to me. Lots of celebrities,
tons of celebrities go to football games every week. Blake Lively,

(02:41):
Ryan Reynolds, and Hugh Jackman show up to this game.
I know they're with Taylor, but if they had just
shown up, I don't think anyone would have ever known.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Nobody would care.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You might hear about it, like on the team's accounts,
but it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean, this is cut away whatever, but the fact
that Taylor's Swift is overshadowing it is. It's why, honestly,
the Bachelor Bachelorette worked for twenty years, and it never
goes away. We have an insatiable appetite for all things love.
When we used to like Harry and Megan, Remember when

(03:16):
the world really liked Harry and Meghan.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
To be honest, I missed those days. It was a
positive time.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Remember when they But when we all believed in this
love story and she's becoming a process.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
The actress becoming a royal. Yes, it was beautiful America
and Britain reuniting is yes, before.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
We kind of found out what they were really like
and we were like scratching our head, going, what who
are these people? That we had this insatiable appetite to
devour this love story, this romance. You flew to London
for this, I mean it changed everything.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
To clarify, I was covering the royal wedding. I wasn't
like a stalker.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, no, that's what I mean for entertainment tonight. But I
mean that's the attention it drew. So we have this
appetite for all things love. So I think deep down
we are all hopeful for a great love story, and
the theater of it all has drawn us in. Whether
you're male, female, young, old, football, non football, this transcends

(04:13):
all that because it goes back to the core thing
we all desire love, a great love story.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's a love story. Maybe just say yes that's a
Taylor Swift song. No I got that? Yeah, No, Look
I completely agree with you, and who better to speak
on this topic than you. You sold love and I
don't mean that in a like a gross way, but
people want to buy it. For twenty years he was
a p It's okay, And now I will give you
one caveat on that though. Yes, this is Taylor Swift.

(04:42):
That's also why this is so big. I mean, Taylor
Swift is the biggest star in the world right now.
And if it was, say, let's go back to your
example thing, don't okay. Taylor Swift also had Sabrina Carpenter,
that was another friend of hers in the stands with
her last night, and she I believe a single right now.

(05:03):
If Sabrina Carpenter, who has tens of millions of followers,
who's a famous singer, actress, but if she was in
the stands for dating a football player.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Dating traveler for the Jets, Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Of course it wouldn't be on this level. This is love, yes,
but it's also Taylor Swift. And you kind of got
a little You got some heat last night on Instagram
A little I didn't get you. You got some back
and forth, yeah, because you know, I mean not you
were I mean you were getting into a theater.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well here's the thing, my I want to believe in this.
You know me. I love love and I'm and I
love Taylor Swift. I'm a big Swift ye. I love
this story. I do. I love the theater of it all,
and I love the love story that I'm hopeful for.
When I saw Taylor and they did the typical cutaway
and they rolled, Mike Turrico mentions this, so this is

(05:53):
clearly scripted and set up. Mike Ico sets this up
with a cutaway going to commercial break. They rolled right
in to an era's tour movie promo. So clearly Okay,
well let me stop there, because when I kind of
caught heat, people were coming at me saying, oh, you
think Taylor Swift needs promo? You think she needs the publicity.

(06:16):
I got this comment because you. So this is a
direct message from Let's see who is this from. This
is from Sally who says she doesn't need the promotion
of her new movie. Are you kidding me that you
don't comprehend how big of a following she has. She
certainly doesn't need to go to the NFL to promote
her new movie. It's sold out in most theaters the

(06:38):
first two days of showings. Sally, I understand how big
Taylor Swift is. I get it. She is the most
famous person in the world, but that doesn't negate the
fact the promo ran on Sunday night football. I'm not
making this up. I'm not saying I wonder if they

(06:59):
thought about it. I saw the promo. They ran an advertisement.
Somebody paid to have that commercial run after a cutaway
of Taylor Switzer.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
And Taylor and her family have financed this movie privately
on their own, So the only person paying for promo
of the movie is Taylor. This isn't a studio.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't know who's distributing the.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
They did a direct deal with theaters and her family did,
so they have to be clear. It is a special case.
They have gone completely outside the traditional route of creating
and promoting a movie. Studios are not involved. Taylor. Her
dad negotiated these deals. He's a finance guy. They financed
the movie themselves, and they did a direct deal with theaters.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So someone either her or on her team, said hey,
let's take advantage of this. Now. Is that a bad thing? No,
it's not. Can two things be true at once? And
that is my main point today, Yes, two things can
very much be true. She could be having the time
of her life. She could be finding new love and
I think that's where this is. I don't think they're

(07:57):
in love yet. This is flirty and fun. And the
way she was kind of talking to Blake Lively at
the end of the game, it was like kind of
two high school girls crushing on a boy and it
was really cute. But two things can be true at once.
She can be savvy as hell, which she is and say, hey,
let's run a promo for the Eras Tour movie. So
to those swifty fans that are immediately defensive of don't

(08:19):
come at me with this. The commercial ran, it ran twice.
They then went to a big time square shot of
the Eras movie. So they're promoting it, which is wonderful.
It's smart, and I think Taylor Swift or someone on
our team said, Hey, the NFL is for sure taking
advantage of us. They're promoting the crap out of you
being there. How about we do the same.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why wouldn't you one hundred percent? And I would point
out what's the most storied brand drink brand in America?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Coke?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Coke Coke. We learned about this when I was in
advertising classes in journalism school, we learned about coke because
Coke has like the most well known Maybe Coke and
Nike have the most applauded ad campaigns in the history
of American brands. Coca Cola never stops advertising. You see
commercials for Coca Cola, and that's part of their secret

(09:10):
and why they've maintained their success for so long, because
everybody knows what a coke is. You grow up knowing coke,
but you still see commercials, and that's part of it.
It's if you feed it, it grows. The machine keeps going,
and I.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Think images in your mind of what coke means.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, Taylor's being very smart right now. She's she knows.
I mean, listen, that's another thing swifty fans should know.
What Swifty fans all say is nothing by accident. So
if you think that Taylor's not doing anything by accident,
which I agree she isn't, she's brilliant. Yes, if you
think that Taylor Swift plans everything, I mean she says
that in her songs. Her lyrics say, you know, nothing
is by accident. I do this, I write lists, I

(09:45):
plan it all. Well, then of course she's planning all this,
and like you said two things can be true. I
think probably Travis Kelsey had rather adorably pursued her publicly.
Taylor thought, hey, you know, okay, I'll give this guy
a try and see what there it goes, and then
maybe it's growing into something real now and maybe also,
of course they should both take advantage of it. Of course,

(10:06):
why wouldn't you. The thing is he he is guarantee
like like they actually kind of can't be too private
with this. I think because he's in the middle of
a season, he's gonna be on television. If you want
to go support him, you gotta go to the game,
So it's sort of a little bit unavoidable unless they
want to totally take this into dark corners. But I

(10:27):
think Taylor with Joe Alwin, I think that whole relationship
was in dark corners, right, And maybe she's sick of that.
Maybe she's like, you know what, I just want to
have fun.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I want to live out loud. Yeah, and she has
somebody who can live out loud with her. Yes, he
can embrace this. It's not going to tarnish his career,
his life.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
She's trying something new here. She's done the I'm dating
actors and singers. In fact, that's all she's ever done,
and she's dated people in her industry. She's trying something new,
she's having fun, she's totally embracing it, bringing a bunch
of her best friends to the game having a good time.
And you know what, I listen. Also, I'm not trying
to be judgmental or anything, but the fact is Taylor

(11:07):
Swift has had only breakups up till this point. So
try something new. Maybe this new VI's work out.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I used to say that when people came on The Bachelor,
you've tried everything up to this point. Let's try somebody new.
Let's try something new, break out of your comfort zone.
And I applaud Taylor because whatever is behind this, whatever's
going on, she is trying something new. And I think
that's always healthy in life to kind of shake the
snow globe up a little bit. And I love the

(11:34):
residual bounce, you know. The Travis Kelcey of at All
people Come, you know, came at me and my direct
message of saying, well, nobody's talking about Travis kelce and
how he's benefiting. Of course he is. Everybody's talking about this.
Travis Kelcey is on this train as well.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Totally. He had commercials in there or whatever brands he's
working with, they bought more ads because he's having a moment.
For sure.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
They went from Travis Kelce catching a ball last night
to a Taylor Swift cutaway to a commercial break that
two of the commercials had Travis Kelce in them.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And he knows what he's doing. At that first game,
he wore the nineteen eighty nine matching jeans and jacket
suit thing.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Nothing is on accident, as you said. And by the way,
he might even be calling Taylor saying, hey, tell me
what I should be doing, because you are the marketing genius.
And so now he is benefiting. Of course he's benefiting
his mom. Donna is benefiting his mom. Donna was great.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Look, I'll admit it, I'll own it. I am no
sports fan. For the first time in my life, I
sat down to watch a football game on television. That
is the power of Taylor Swift. Yeah, and what was
a little upsetting. And I spoke about this on Instagram

(12:45):
and many of you seem to relate. Now, I thought
they showed Taylor Swift very little, but you, as a
sports fan, seem to think they showed her quite a lot.
Do you think sports fans felt like it was too much?
Are they annoyed? I'm in the camp of give the
people what they want. I have only tuned in for Taylor.
Your ratings are spiking because I'm tuning in for Taylor.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I think they did a good job. I thought they
hit a nice balance. Turned out to be a damn
good football game, so they had to and they did
a good job.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
So they actually had to cover the game right.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
They actually had to go. I think they were going
to probably lean on Taylor more, but then the game
turned out to be good, so they leaned back into
the game, and at that point you can't go always
back to Taylor. I think they could have actually done more.
I think early on they could have done more. They
could have hung on those shots a little more. Everybody
wanted to see who else was in the suite. I
mean her with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds right there,

(13:36):
Brittany Mahomes was there. That's the quarterback's wife.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Ryan brought.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Hugh Jackman, and Hugh Jackman is there.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Hugh Jackman freshly single, sad story, I mean they had
a long marriage. That makes me upset, but you looking good?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Is Hugh there also looking for love?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sophie Turner was there? I mean Taylor has again. She
tells us what to think in her song lyrics. She
says me a picture me with your ex wife in
one of her songs, Sophie Turner Joe Jonas's ex. They
have been thick as thieves as of late. Loved that
she brought Sophie. She had a whole crew there. What
I think they should have done they had to know

(14:13):
and the NFL overall has been really smart about this,
like using their Twitter accounts saying NFL Taylor's version all that.
They've been clever and fun and smart. But I thought
the mistake they made was in the beginning of the game,
before the game really got going. They should have shown
more Taylor there because you also had people like me
tuning in to see her in the beginning. For sure,
No matter what, I didn't last the whole game, and

(14:33):
we probably weren't going.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You definitely should have leaned on.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
It more, lean in in the beginning and then let
it go.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
It was Yeah, I thought they could have done a
little better. I think, you know, I get the director
is probably sitting in the booth going, oh, man, you know,
is this too much? I don't want to piss off
all the football fans, but I felt the same way
watching you. There are so many teenage girls, there are
so many wives, and look, I know there are plenty
of women out there that love football, so they're tuning in.
But there were a lot of people watching last night

(15:00):
that don't love football. Give them what they want early on,
feed them because we're all going to sit there and
watch the football game anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Right, it's a new audience and it's not like.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
We missed a play or anything like that. It reminds
me again of being on the show and a couple
gets engaged on the show and people immediately say, oh,
they're never gonna last, they're going to break up. Well,
you know what the percentages are with you, They are
going against the dice. The percentages show that they will

(15:30):
break up, that they're not gonna make it, because most
couples don't. It's hard. That's why we want to believe
in love. That's why we want to see love stories
so much. So it's so easy to be negative and
say they're not going to make it, because that's what
the percentages say so, I always just said this when
someone got engaged on the show. How about we just
root for them? How about we just root for love

(15:50):
and root for them and support them, have fun with it,
you know, stay on top of it and enjoy this
story for what it is, or ignore it if you
want to. But I always just said, how about we
just believe in it and enjoy it while it lasts,
and then let it happen. It's just easy to be
so negative.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I am rooting for it in the stands. I am
rooting for it as a fan, you know, not for
the game, but for the game of love.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm cheering for I can't wait. And here's the thing.
I can't wait to see what's next. That's how I
know this is a powerful story because I already can't
wait to see what the next chapter is, and we'll
be talking about it. We also need to talk about

(16:40):
a big week that you had.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes, our love story, Oh my gosh, we're getting into
it with like, you know, we're really kind of winding
down here to the wedding, and we're having different wedding
celebrations and activities and our wonderful local friends here in
Austin that we've made over the past year of living here.
They said to me, look, Lauren, the lady said, we
love to throw your bridle shower. I said, that is
so kind. You don't have to like we want to.

(17:05):
I said, well, here's the thing. I don't want a
bridle shower. I know thyself. I don't want what if
people get at bridle showers. First of all, let me
go on a small rant. Bridal showers typically during the day.
I don't like a daytime party. Maybe there are a
couple and no, no, you know what, no, never mind.

(17:27):
If I'm on a boat, I want a sunset cruise.
I don't want a tailgate during the day for a
football game. If I have to do that, I want
it to be at night. I'll be honest. I don't
like to go to a baby shower during the day.
To me, and I don't want to go to a
bridle shower. When you have those events during the day,
it takes up the whole day. I say, bridle shower
happy hour, it should always be in the evening. That's
point one point two. Do you agree with me? Can

(17:49):
you think of one drinking or partying activity you like
to do during the day.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
No, you know me, I'm with you. That's one of
the things we definitely bond on. We're not big day drinkers.
We're not big partiers. During the day.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I'd like to get up, workout, do my stuff, and
then like have.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
A cop I like to enjoy my day. And then yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
When you drink during the day, then your whole night's over.
Then you because you're like, I've been drinking, I'm done. Yeah, okay,
So I said that, and then I said, I don't
want a bridle shower because what do you typically get
at a bridle shower? And blenders, KitchenAid mixers, a.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Nice crock pot, a pressure cooker.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's generally home in kitchen appliances, and I haven't. You
don't even let me cook anymore. You think I burn
the pants or well you do. Actually there's receipts. So
I don't want any of that. And my friend Wendy said,
what about a lingerie shower? I said, Wendy, that wasn't
even really something I'd heard of or thought of. If

(18:46):
you all have, maybe these used to be bigger. If not,
let's bring them back. It was so much fun. It
was a nighttime event. They had my favorite tequila, Siemprey Tequila.
Try it if you haven't. It's a beautiful, clean tequila brand,
well priced and so good. Also, they have little roses
on your preservatives.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Very clean.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, it's very cute for us because their labels of roses.
So I love it. And they had like fun games
but not gross. It was the ladies got together in
the evening. They had a balloon arch for days.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
The incredibly the layout. I dropped you off and uh
so I could pick you up later so you wouldn't drive.
It was amazing. They really rolled out the red carpet.
It was spectacular, and I'll be honest, I was intrigued
as soon as I heard lingerie party because I feel
like I win, Like I feel like this party was
really for me. And I didn't have to go because

(19:39):
I was only going to benefit from every gift you got.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, that's true, you do do benefit. And well, here's
what else is great about it. At something like a
lingerie shower, I think you're you're getting gifts you wouldn't
by yourself, like I don't normally if I'm going to
go get myself pajamas. Honestly, and maybe I should be
better about it. But I'm looking for comfort bowl cute
but company pajamas. I go on Amazon and get them.

(20:04):
At a lingerie shower, you get not just lingerie, but
I got like satiny pajamas and cute robes and also yeah,
truly lingerie that I probably wouldn't have gone and bought
for myself, because your friends are going to really want to,
you know, celebrate you and luxury it and get you
something special. I think when you're registering for things for
like a bridal shower, you are getting stuff that is

(20:25):
like usually quite practical, like either the ideas fill your home,
I need this thing or that. So I loved the
lingerie shower from just the fun luxurious part of it too.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
And you guys had a great time. You played games.
There were I.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Took I think at least six, if not more, shots
of tequila.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Out of the penis shot glass.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
It wasn't a penis shot glass. There was no penis show.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
There were penises. There were, Okay, one of these penises
unfortunately made it into one of our social media posts.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh my god, we do you guys know.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
The squishy balls like the stress. So one of one
of the penises is like a squishy stress ball, and
as a joke, Lauren brought it home and it was
sitting on a shelf and we did a social media
post during the Taylor Swift Sunday Night football appearance, and
I realized there was a penis over my head.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You had the best line, you said, you've heard of
elf on the shelf? Yes, I okay, let me ask
your opinion. Were you at all? I didn't know going
into this lingerie shower, by the way, I didn't really
know how dirty or not they were going to make it.
I did. I didn't really do a big bachelorette party.
But even when I first got married, I told all

(21:41):
my friends I've never been into the stripper thing. I said,
I don't ever want to be surprised with a stripper.
I don't like it. I'm not a big fan. But
like you know, I call it elegant genitalia, A tasteful penis. Yeah,
I don't mind. They had a little cute at the
lawn d shower, like penis little candies spread across the table.

(22:04):
They had these stressful penis. Yeah, and they had kind
of a silly, very y two k frosted tips man
on a poster, frosted tips hair, not the other kind
of tip, and we played pin the tail on the penis.
It was silly little stuff. Does that make you uncomfortable
at all? Did you, as would you have an issue

(22:25):
with any of.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
That, like you doing all that?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, god no, I mean I honestly wouldn't even have
an issue if like they had hired a stripper to
come in. I don't care because it's nothing personal, it's
nothing romantic.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It's there's no I wouldn't have liked a stripper for you.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I well, here's the thing. I know you don't love that,
and I think you know that about me too. It's
not my thing. It never has been. And so you know,
if they if they had, oh we hired this cop
guy or whatever, they came in and did it, or
you probably would have for you would have been like
a Voldemort, like.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well voldemor that would have been weird. But my girlfriend
of mine, a very good friend of mine, did have
no a Harry Potter stripper. I wasn't at that. I
couldn't make her bachelor at party, but it was brilliant
and apparently it was the strippers first ever request to
be Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
But going to the lingerie party for you, I thought
it was just fun. I was glad that your girls,
your crew here, your squad, if you will, Taylor Swift
to throw you a big party and it was an
absolute blast everybody. Thank you, Yes and the whole neighborhood
crew that really ruled. Yeah, thank you, rolled out the
red penises.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh hopefully not red eh read another Taylor Swift album reference. God,
I love all the t Swift references. It was funny
in the game. A lot of the Swifties were like, God,
they're really trying here, but can we not do Cornelia
Street references stuff like that. They were really critiquing the
NFL for the references that were being made.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
There were a couple questions about our wedding oh coming
out that some people had, and so we'll hammer some
of these out because you know, we appreciate you guys
reaching out via direct message. You can go to at
the most Dramatic pod ever. That's our official site. We
get those. Our lovely producer Kendall gets those questions and
polls the for us. You can always find at Lauren
Zima and at Chris B. Harrison Fire questions to us.

(24:21):
The first question, because you know we're kind of zeroing
in on our wedding, are you too getting nervous?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh, I don't feel nervous at all.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I would say the tensions have risen.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, that's true. The stress is right, the.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Stress has risen. We have been very stress free, and
I think we have been rolling through this together very
very well, and we still are. But this last week,
for sure, the stress level has been notched up, just
because we have more things that we just got to
get done now, all those things that you know you
just as you start hitting that deadline.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I always think wedding planning goes like this a long
time out. You have to book the really big stuff
you got it, nail down your venue, and then then
there's a time when like you kind of actually can't
do that much because the vendors have other stuff going
on and they're sort of like, ma'am, I know you're
worried about your flowers, but we have thirty weddings before
years and we can't buy your flowers till the week
of anyway, so you can kind of pause. Now. I

(25:16):
do think maybe I paused quite a lot. My mom
and my sister were my sister, especially who got married
not long ago. I apparently I just found this out
from my mom. My sister was telling my mom Lauren's
not getting enough done. She needs to do more. I'm
worried about her. And my mom actually said to her, Christina,
Lauren's always been like this. She's very deadline oriented. She's
just gonna like It's like in high school, I was

(25:37):
the type of person who I would have a book
report due for months and I would get it done
two days before. Yeah, that's how I operate best. Sometimes
it does mess me up. Sometimes I should be a
little better about getting stuff done early. But I can't
change you.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I am Donna should have called me and given me
this note. Should have but I so far, I think
we've done well. And obviously the stress is going to
build a little bit, but it's in a good way.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I straight up told you this week I will
say I think you did. I think communication is important.
I said to you. I want you to know I'm
going to get a little stressed at this point. I
love you, Like, just be prepared for the tension to
be a little high.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, and I'm by the way. I'm feeling it too,
just because there are, you know, things we just got
to do and and it feels big, and we don't
have a wedding planner per se. We have people kind
of helping and they thought.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I was insane. I told somebody that, They said, you
don't have a wedding planner, Like, no.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
We have someone for sure in our camp that's helping us.
And then we have you know, a couple other people
at these sites, the venues.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And you've been a great partner in it all. Baby,
you are so not the and I'll admit I think
it's I don't know, I think it's It could potentially
be a red flag if you've got a partner who's
not into helping doing stuff, getting stuff done. You need
a teammate in there. This is planning a big event
in your life. You very much. You've taken on stuff
you're good at. I think I've taken things on and
we've had a fairly equitable distribution. Is the work?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Another one asked, you know if this is if planning
this together has caused fights or brought you closer together,
how it's affected our relationship in it it has brought
us closer together. It's just Laura and I are so
aligned on so many things, on our vision on what
we want to do, and then we'll sit down and
kind of have a brainstorming meeting of like, Okay, how
do we want to come in? What kind of music
do you want? Like just we just hammer things out

(27:14):
and kind of you know what it is. I think
we're both producers at heart. We're writers and producers, and
so we like producing.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Together, producing our wedding. We are we are producing wrong
our wedding. Yeah, I know we are, I mean, which
is a good sign. I felt this way. We did
our house too. But for example, you had to take
a call that I couldn't be on talking about the
catering and the food, and you texted me no cake, right,
and I said, yeah, definitely, no cake. Like we just
I think we're aligned on it. Stuff's been pretty easy.

(27:42):
I trust your judgment. And no, we're not having a
wedding cake either.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And so you know, someone else asked, you know who's
doing what and how are you splitting this up? We
just are like we definitely. It's not like hey, I'll
cook you clean. It's not like we've had specific rules
there's just things that Lauren, well.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Maybe we both know what the other's good at.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, I think that's I think that's true. And you
are such a great organizer. Lauren is more meticulous I
think than I am.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
And you're a good connector, like you're like this person
would be great for this.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I like to start things, You're right, I like to
start connect whatever, and then I'm not great at getting
into the weeds. I need people to kind of come
in and finish and polish things off.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But some of the stuff's been really fun to do together.
I don't mean to make it sound like, oh, we
don't have a wedding cake, and we're like we have
a lot of really beautiful moments planned, and.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think all of it's been fun.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It has like I've loved doing the seating chart together.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I've loved you know what I thought of what you
know about not having a wedding planner. Yeah, it's been
stressful and I thought at times were idiots.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
But.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I wouldn't want to just because I was thinking about
my first wedding and I just showed up. I didn't
do anything. I was twenty two years old, so what
could I have done? But I didn't do jack, I
just showed up. I'm glad. I was just thinking, I'm glad.
I don't I don't just want to show up to this.
I'm glad. I know every aspect of this we both do.

(29:05):
We have planned everything meticulously, down to our guests where
they're staying, like everything, and I can kind of own
this whole thing. I feel much closer to it. Yeah, then, hey,
we have a three o'clock wedding next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Show up like right, well, and probably your first time
around it was like your your ex and your mom
wanted to do it all and so what could you.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Honestly, I don't know who did it really.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Maybe that is on you, But I think maybe what
I've grown from with my first wedding was to be honest,
not being so for lack of a better word, invested,
I'm invested, but not but knowing what matters and what doesn't.
Like when you're a bride for the first time and
I look, I hope out there everybody only does it
one time, but we grow up with this idea of

(29:49):
weddings and it's so big and you're so stressed, and
and this time I'm just like, look, I know at
the end of the day, we have great people, We're
gonna have great wine, we're gonna have good music, and
that's really all you need. And I do think this
could be a hot take. Please DM me if you disagree,
But I think there are some things that you need
that people don't remember, and those are the things you

(30:12):
should not stress yourself out about. Flowers is one of those.
Do you need flowers? Sure, you don't want the room
to look like crap. You want people to feel like
it's special and beautiful. But I've never left a wedding
and years later thought, God, that wedding had the best flowers. Right,
You look back and you're like, we danced, we had
so much fun, the toasts were great. You don't think
I can't get over those floral center pieces. So I'm

(30:38):
not stressing so much about everything. I'm focusing on what's
just a necessity. But what will people really remember?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Definitely, older and wiser, you and I have perspective, which
is wonderful to go through this again with two people
that have perspectives. So we know there's gonna be hurdles.
We know we're going to trip and fall on some stuff.
Things are going to go awry. We just deal with it,
right if something doesn't show up in the mail that
we ordered or whatever, like, okay, we'll fix it. It's
all good because at the end of the day, we
know we're going to get married and that's really what

(31:06):
we care about, and our friends and family will be there,
and I know there's going to be spectacular wine. It'll
be great. A couple more questions thought, and this is
interesting because we talked about this and we almost had
this issue. Thoughts on not letting someone bring a plus one.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh, and I have gotten a few texts from a
few guests about this.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
So we have had a very specific situation where one
of our very dear friends has somebody, but they also
can break up and date other people quite often. And
we talked about, hey, if this happens, we don't want
a stranger at our wedding. We don't want to meet
somebody for the first time.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I said, if he's with the person he's currently with, yes,
and they've been together for a while. Great with this
discussion months ago, I said, if they break up pretty
like fairly sooner before the wedding, then we're going to
tell him please come on your own, do not just
find a date, even though we gave you a plus one.
I was going to have you call and have that conversation.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I'm by the way, I was right there with you,
and it was the best line that I've heard. Was
neither one of us want to meet a stranger at
our wedding.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
And we have to give credit. We got that takeaway
from Wells Adams's brother and his right who had that
policy at their wedding.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Ye. Yes, and I love that. I am all for that.
So we were not. You know, luckily we haven't had
to jump off that bridge, but we were prepared to.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's you know what, though, let's get into it is
amazing and I've talked to other friends about this, and
I think everyone out there who's been married can relate.
It's amazing the crap people will say and do. Yeah,
when it's your wedding. I don't know what happens I
think people, And I don't mean to sound negative, you guys,
I've lost my voice again from the lingerie shower. I
honestly think I need to see a doctor about my voice.

(32:46):
I'm a little worried, but so I hope I don't
sound negative. I'm very happy right now. My voice has
just gone. But people will there's something about a wedding
where people are emboldened. It's kind of like a funeral.
When there's a big life event, people say and do
the weirdest crap. I had someone ask me if like

(33:06):
their kid could come and their kid could bring a
plus one, and I was like, I barely know your kid,
like you know what it's like. And the fact that
I was a little like, I kind of can't believe
they asked that.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Or and I know you guys like, look, if there's
a destination wedding, say you're going to Kansas City, back
to Taylor.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Destination Kansas City made.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Me call wrid or groom and say, what's the weather
going to be like in Kansas City?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Oh my god, if you can google it, don't ask
me about it.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Come on, Try not to ask the brighter groom or
whoever anything that you know, Oh you know, I don't
know what the dress is, Well, yeah you do, it's
on it's on the invitation, or just try to not
ask them.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
The most I did. I've had a couple of people
ask me because we have a wedding website and I've
had a couple of people be like, hey, can you
remind me, like what time this is or what time
it's like, and I've said it's on the website. Yeah,
and I know that. I know that text is not
coming across great. I know it's coming across a little shady,
but I can't. I'm like, I can either type out
a whole paragraph explaining it, or I can tell you
it's on the website. And I did the website myself,

(34:12):
so I already type that paragraph.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
At big events and this goes back to lingerie party
or bachelor, bacherette party, funeral, wedding, whatever the big event, graduation,
whenever any individual or a couple someone is being honored,
it's for them. The night is in their name, it's
for them. Don't make it about you. You don't get

(34:38):
to do that that one day, that one night. Don't
end up, you know, being the center of attention, whether
it's drama, whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I would love stories, can you, guys? I just I mean,
I would just it's always fun to hear drama, no
matter even especially it's about people you don't know. Please
dm us if you have stories of crazy stuff people
did at your wedding.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
One of our friends has a story where her best
friend locked herself in a bathroom and was bawling.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
The best friend was upset. This is wild and stuff
like this, we'd love to hear our dear friend. Her
best friend was a bridesmaid, but was upset she wasn't
made the maid of honor. The maid of honor was
the bride's sister. So the best friend is upset that
the sister is the maid of honor. And it all
came out on the wedding day. Apparently she'd been holding
it in, locked herself in a bathroom crying, and the

(35:27):
bride had to go be like, can you please come
out for the wedding? How wild is that? People become
n hinge?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Don't be that person.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Okay, any other question?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, last question. This is a big one because we
just had this conversation last night. Have you two written
your vows?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh my gosh, we did just talk about this Lesbon
and attorney instead of you started.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
The answer is no, we have not.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I've thought about much. Yeah, if marinated in my mind?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, me too. I think about it a lot. If
I'm at the gym, whatever, I start kind of going
through it.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Part of it is what we've been together a lot,
and I sort of feel like I need to like
separate from you, get to write it out, Yeah, write
it out on my own, like I can't. I don't know.
I think there's something maybe a little romantic about it. Honestly,
I need to be away from you for a day
or something to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
But yeah, So the answer is yes, we're going to
The answer is no, we haven't. And I've become Lauren
where I'm just kicking this can down the road. It'll
be it's not gonna be last minute, but we will
get it done. But it's funny. We just had this
conversation last night.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well one of the questions was, are you nervous. I'm
not nervous, like we said, I'm stressed. I am. The
only thing I might be a little nervous about is
the vows. Yeah, I don't want to. I love you
and I'm afraid of disappointing you.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
If we're putting a lot of pressure on each other
for this, I know, and it's self imposed both ways,
because I've admitted the same thing. Yeah, we've imposed our
own pressure to perform it from the other I think.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's very difficult. And I said this to you yesterday.
We have to take some of this stress and pressure
off ourselves because it is incredibly tough to summarize your relationship,
your love. Yeah, in just a few minutes of words.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I need a Taylor Swift song.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I need a whole album. And the shower was so thoughtful.
They just had so many great details, framed pictures of
us and future Missus Napkins and a Missus Harrison.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Veil future mister and Missus Harrison veil. I saw it.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
No, it just said Missus Harrison and it was so
funny because I felt bad. They literally had a cute
little veil mate, and it had Missus Harrison printed in
gold on the veil, and they said, yeah, we had
this mean before we heard your podcast rant about how
you caught changing your name.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
See, you know what's funny. Though, I like seeing it,
like I like hearing it, and I like seeing it,
and I know that you're not going to take my
name and that's fine, and I really am it doesn't
hurt me and it doesn't hurt my feelings, but I
also is it okay? Again? Two things can be true
at once. I still like hearing it.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And let me say I didn't dislike it. I said
to them that night, I said, you know what, this
feels cute. I like it. It's not that I would
have an issue with taking your name and us being
one in that way. I just think people should be
with partners who are also willing to go the other way.
And it's a red flag to me if you're not.

(38:33):
And I should applaud you because we actually have a
group text going with like our very closest friends who
are coming to the wedding to kind of get excited,
and this was your idea. We named the group text
mister and missus Zema. So you're right there withn't me, babe,
And that's why I love you.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
And that happens often too. We talked about that when
we're hotels or resorts or whatever, people you know, whatever
name is on the reservation, they'll say, mister Zema, how
are you doing this morning? You know, so I get
called mister Zema all.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
The times, Harrison.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You get called missus Harrison. Neither one of us are
offended by it, and in fact I like it. I
like when I'm called mister Zema. I like when you're
called missus Harrison. I think it's great. It just shows
that we're we're one and we are a couple, and
it doesn't mean we need to change our names or should.
We've already covered that in a prior podcast, but I
did enjoy seeing that.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
On the veil the Harrizemas the Zema Sins.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
What a crazy week it has been. Full of Taylor Swift,
full of Travis Kelcey, full of penises, oh my gosh,
lots of celebrations and it's all good. It's all good,
and we appreciate you guys being with us as always
and again. You can find us at the drumost Somatic
pod at Lauren Zema at Chris B. Harrison always good

(39:49):
talking to you. Take care of yourself, take care of
each other, and we'll talk to you next time because
we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening.
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