#318 "This One..."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Nicky Glazer Podcast. Billy's a Sex. Here's Nikki. Hello, here,
I am welcome to the show. It's Nicky Glazer Podcast.
It is Wednesday when you're hearing this, or I don't
know when you're hearing this. It could be a Wednesday
anytime in the future. But um, yeah, if you're listening

(00:22):
to it the first day it came out, it's Wednesday,
but we're recording it on Tuesday. It's Valentine's Day here
in the world where we're recording this, And I hate
this day personally and we're all coupled up. Wait, no,
you hate this day too. Yes, I am so annoyed
with Instagram. I'm just disgusted by all the like love

(00:45):
going out for like just my little sloppy love lover
my little bunny this year. It's real. It's not even photos,
it's video compilations. Really, Oh god, I can't take it.
I just do not have a boyfriend who would ever
do like unless we were like getting married and he
wanted to make a reel of me for like the event,
like which he's good at and does for a job.

(01:07):
He's not going to put up a personal post of
like me. This there's no one's coming at me. I
don't even want this one's because I think they are
lame and they kind of speak to like a guy
who's a little bit pacified. I think of just like
whipped in a way, no offense. If your boyfriend does it,
I am jealous. It's like I want it, but I

(01:29):
don't want to you know, Um, but I can't take
all the posts today. It just really is irritating me.
And um, if Chris didn't want it, but I would
be out of character for him. I that'd be like
him being like I want you to have, you know,
an ass. It's like, well, I can't give that to you.

(01:51):
Why are you with me? You know, like why you
you shouldn't be with someone like me? Then if that's
what you want. So it's like you know those things
in relationships where you're like the person can't have so
I want I want it from you know there? Yes,
I do want something. I will say it is. He's
on the West Coast. He got in really late last
night to our airbnb that we're going to share again there.

(02:15):
I'm arriving on Sunday, and today he had to wake
up and go to work, so I'm allowing until I
think we decided noon on the girls Chat. Well, then
I asked, how long until noon Pacific when I can
have reason to get like, okay, where is it? And
then his argument would be, which is logical because he's

(02:38):
just a normal person, is why didn't you write me
if you want? I would think I don't think that
would be mine? Of like, don't do this game of
like waiting. If you want it, now write me. Don't
do tests. But let's not play a game like. This
is not Let's not pretend this is man's holiday too.

(03:01):
This is our day. Okay, let's not make any bones
about it. I know we have to pretend we're all romantic.
I come to find out I want romances. As Aanya
puts on her lipstick, That's why I'm putting on my
lipstick for you. I'm about to do it this one
post for you. Thank you. I get it this one.
If I died tragically, that's when everyone's gonna I'm gonna

(03:23):
get ever wanted in my life when I die tragically.
This is such an irony that you get all the
attention you love and crave, and all the love after
you've been smashing the head by a log coming off
of a truck or whatever it is. However you get
taken out like that's when you get it all this.
We toured the country together, we did podcasts together. We were, Oh,

(03:47):
it would be amazing that. I hope I have Instagram
in purgatory wherever I'm hanging out. If you're dead and
everyone starts making your death about them, You're just like,
I barely know that person, well a little. I mean,
I would like everyone to be saddened by my death,

(04:08):
for sure. I want some people to be like, because
I've been saddened by people's death that because no matter
how sad you are, you're making it about you, you know,
like a person could be misconstrued as making it about you. Yes,
but what people like top posts on Instagram are people
that are on your like fifth tier of friends. You're like,

(04:31):
I did a podcast with you once, and my boyfriend's
on his fifth tier coming out of his eye. I
wouldn't mind it, Like I kind of that. I've I've
touched people who I barely know. I feel like most
people who would mourn my loss would not know me.
It would be like best. These are people that have
never fans of mine because I feel like I'm a

(04:54):
fan of people that if they died, I've felt extreme
loss of people I've barely known or even I struggled
with the Bob sagg and thing of like I don't
know him as much as John Mayer knew him, or
stay most or you know all these people, yet you
face him. But I facetimed him for my show. That's
the only reason you know that. Otherwise you wouldn't know

(05:16):
the context of our relationship at all, and you probably
would have been like, and what if I didn't FaceTime him,
then I'm not allowed to be sad? Like where are
the where does it count? You got a mutual admiration
for one another, and I got to witness that in person.
It was off air in an hallway at a radio station. Yes,

(05:36):
but I'm just saying, where where do we draw the line?
Where do we go? This person has no reason to
be sad because this is where it gets into tricky
territory for me, because I think you have a reasonably
said I wouldn't bother me if people made my death
about them. I guess is my can't tell people. I
feel that's generous. Really, you like who have what what
what kind of post would annoy you posthumously? For you

(05:58):
if you saw someone post it, that's like a fifth
tier friend. I mean, I get annoyed by people who
don't know someone who died. And it's just like, here's
a long monologue about the one time I met them
in a hallway and they were so kind to me
and they talked to me about my mom, and it's
just like, Irene Kara. Really this, You're gonna make a
three paragraph thing about Irene Kara, who doesn't even know

(06:21):
you exist, and then chose that. I get why that's
annoying because that person is so unseelf aware and making
like doing a eulogy for like they write more about
that person than their mom. But the reason they do
is because they had a shitty mom that they don't
want to write anything about. Can I add to Anya's
so that Nikki? I get why that's not annoying. He

(06:44):
would be annoying if the photo was of them doing
like that lunge ass shot that Kirsten did the other day,
And it's just an excuse to show the photo right
where that's just well that yeah, that's photos of taken
with me are of and I know that now because
I take probably two photos after every show um with people,

(07:06):
and those showed photos, I would say one one or
two show up at the next show that that person
sees me at. They print them up and they hang
them on the wall and they have me sign them.
So that's that's of use. The other ones, I probably
think five people at most out of two posted on
their Instagram story or tag me on it on their
Instagram post. The other two forty four people waiting for

(07:30):
me to die, because that's going to be a great Otherwise,
what are you doing with the photo on your phone?
Maybe they said, you know, like the it's not like
they know they're waiting for me to die, but they
I know the day that I died, They're gonna go
what month was it we went to go see her,
like putting it in their phone, like trying to find
that picture. We've all done it. I've done it too. Yeah,

(07:50):
it's because you're looking for identity, you're looking for connection,
you're looking for people. You're an adult child of a
of a you're an adult child of an emotionally immature parent,
which is a book I'm reading right now that literally
any bestie should read because if you are attracted to
the words that I'm saying, ever, you probably had an

(08:13):
emotionally immature parent. Doesn't mean they were a bad parent.
It just means they had kids and they don't know
how to like connect with them emotionally. And it's such
a good book that I think a bestie recommended me
and I'm flying through it and I love it, and
it's I'm reading way more than one third of it
and um really yeah, oh yeah, I'm like I'm halfway through. Um,
it's it speaks to me like almost no other book has.

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And that's not to say that my parents were immature,
except my dad would always go stop hitting yourself, stop
hitting yourself, and go ying ying, yinging, And it sounds
like that's emotionally imature. That's justoopy face. Yeah, yeah, that's
just immature, emotionally immature. What are the qualifications for it?
If you had an emotionally imature parents, Let me look
at this up because they were kind of fascinating to me.

(08:58):
Let me guess you want to guess, yeah, because I
think mine, for sure, one of my everything is about them. First,
Like this happened the other day. My dad came over
to our condo. Matt and I are staying in a
condo right above my parents, like two floors above them.
My dad tested negative, Yeah, positive for COVID. He's on

(09:21):
like day eight, okay. And it comes over and I'm
like cheers in him. I go, God, damn, I cannot
believe seven days ago you fucking had COVID and we're sick,
and look at you now, you're amazing, you look so great,
And I go, just for kicks, let me test you now,
because it occurred to me. He tested himself and he's like,
I'm negative, and he took the packs alvid, which everybody knows.

(09:43):
You get rebounds off that it's very likely I had
one of myself. He's done so much research on cod
that none of one of the three people here knows. Ye,
So I test him. Everyone knows COVID. You But what
do you you bounce back? What are you talking about? Remember?
I took packs alvid and I got sick again. I

(10:06):
got do you feel great for a second and then
you bounced back to feeling like shit again? Yes? And
if you feel like shit, that means that if you
test positive, though it doesn't necessarily mean you're contagious. Correct correct.
Although people can give it like full, COVID comes back
a lot of times when you take this pack anyway,

(10:26):
so mine came back taking it. Some people get well,
most people get well, okay, okay. Also, if you're like old,
you know it's going to keep you from hospitalization and death.
So I give my dad a test. He tests positive
and he goes, fuck, and I'm like all right, and
he goes, I do have kind of like sniffles that

(10:47):
I noticed this morning, and I, you know, I feel
worse today than yesterday. We're sitting there at the table
and with Matt and then I go yeah, and he
starts sneezing, and then Matt like looks at both of
us like, are you guys crazy? Is put your mask on?
You should put your mask on now. My dad's like, God,
damn it, I'm so pissed. This ruins my day. I go,

(11:07):
is any part of you at all right now worrying
about like maybe getting other people sick? And he's like,
oh yeah, but that's his first instinct is my day
is ruined, my week is ruined. Well, that's what was
wrong with COVID was everyone cared about themselves and didn't
care about other That was remember the height of it
where no one was wearing a mask. It wasn't I

(11:28):
And I even said in my stand up, I didn't
wear a mask because I cared about getting COVID. Give
it to me. It's like harpies. I just want to
get it out of the way. I'm gonna get it eventually.
I don't care give it to me. I'm not scared
of it because I'm gross, and I'm not scared of sickness.
I don't really get sick. You wear a mask for
other people. And that was the problem with our country
not being able to get on board with masks is

(11:48):
because we don't care about each other. If you're poor,
if you're different, if you're from a different part of town,
we just don't care as much about each other. It's
really it's just selfishness. But we're gonna go through the
checklist because I found it in my phone on this
book right after this, and you will be able to
sess if your parents are emotionally immature and if maybe

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you should read this book for some a little good
guidance and a little bit of letting yourself off the
hook for some of your behaviors and attractions to people
that you have because you were raised with emotionally immature parents,
which is not an indictment on them. They were also
raised by emotionally immature people because it's something you passed down.
Let's break the cycle after this, but we'll be right there. Okay,

(12:32):
we're back. So do you have emotionally immature parents? Here's
the checklist. Read through the following statements and check that
any that describe your parents. My parents often overreacted two
relatively minor things. Are we let's all just do this
right now. Okay, just to keep pick one either one
or both parents. Okay, so it's it's a yes if
it's even one of your parents. My parents often overreacted

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to relatively minor things. My parents didn't express much empathy
or emotional awareness when it comes to emotional closeness and feelings.
My parents seem uncomfortable and didn't go there. Absolutely, yes,
my parents often my parents or parents were often irritated
by individual differences or different points of view. Hell yes,

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when I when I was growing up, my parents used
me as a confidant, but wasn't a confidant for me.
My parents often said and did things without thinking about
other people's feelings. Yes, I didn't get much attention or
sympathy from my parents, except maybe when I was really sick. Yes,
my parent was inconsistent, sometimes wise, sometimes unreasonable. If I

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became upset, my parents either said something superficial and unhelpful
or got angry and sarcastic. Again, if I became upset,
my parents either said something superficial and unhelpful or angry
and sarcastic, or got angry. Um conversations mostly centered on
my parents interests. Even polite disagreement could could make my

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parents very defensive. Polite disagreement very defensive. If it was
deflating to tell my parents about successes because it didn't
seem to matter. That one doesn't. I don't relate to
it at all. You relate to that one, it's not
my parents. Would my parents would get rid of jealous
of my success, No way. He would immediately he would

(14:24):
be so happy for me. But the next thing out
of his mouth would be, you know, I've never had
that kind of an audience. Oh, he'd be like, that's incredible,
I've never It would always be about him. The next
thing facts and oh, years would be judgmental, right, like
you would never there would never be any praise. It
would just be like, oh, well, you know that didn't happen.

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Or they would just point out if you got it,
if you've got something good happen to you, they would
point out like there was a well it's not that
big of a deal because it was just like they
would minimize it. Yes, facts and logic. That's one I
did not ever have to my knowledge. Maybe subconsciously something
was going on, but my parents were your parents that
love to talk about you and recognize every little thing.

(15:08):
The Texas Weekend actually of like your dad is so
proud of you. He gets tears in his eyes. You
said something he does, he gets he beams. He literally beams,
like yesterday I met him briefly, will not say why.
And it was a cloudy day. What Okay, I know why.
I know why you're saying that, but it sounds suspicious.

(15:30):
He was helping her in a week or two. Okay,
you were handing him a file in a parking lot.
Yeah okay, Um, it was not a drug exchange, and
it was cloudy and um, you know it was just
like a quick thing. And then he like brings, brings
up your name, and he literally like the sun came out.

(15:52):
He was just beaming, just rating he talks about you.
He loves you so much, so he does, he really does.
But it often is like I wish my mom could
see you. And I take that as like he just
wants to show me off, like look what I did.
You know what I mean? Like it's that means a
lot to me, and I know he would go like,
I just want my mom to see you, because I

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think she'd be proud. But there's a part of me
that's like, and I get it. If I had kids
and they accomplished amazing things, I would desperately want my
dad to see it, to be like, Dad, look what
I made, that did this thing. You know there's a
little you want the praise. I would I want the
praise of, like, look at this amazing child you made.
And I think when people go it's a little bit
of my worry about adopting is that my parents, if

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the kid is amazing, they'll be like, well, wherever you
got the kid, good job, then that's my parents child,
Like it had nothing to do with you. But if
it's your blood, like any time there's anything wrong with
like anything off going on with nieces and nephews. It's like, well,
maybe that's mad side of the family. You know, maybe

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they it's like it's like it's never their blood, like
like we can even help our genes to begin with,
like whatever, d n A. It's and and I mean
that's that's not a conversation that really comes up ever.
But whenever there's like a behavioral problem, it's like, you
guys weren't like that, and you know, maybe it's just
something that you know, the other side of the family.
Like I could just tell if I had adopted kids,

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there would be a lot of well she shouldn't have
adopted that kid's kind of going crazy against um. Conversely,
Matt's mom does this thing all the time where she's like, well,
your talent is because of Jesus, and he's like, my
talent is not anything to do the thing. Oh god,
that's so yeah. She's always like, well, you gotta thank

(17:41):
Jesus for all that. He's like, do I She's not
wrong because you can't really attribute nothing you do is you.
You guys know, I don't believe in free will. Nothing
you you don't choose your thoughts you don't choose your motivations.
If you're someone who like practice guitar a lot and
became a virtuous so you didn't choose the brain that
was you were born with too good at guitar. I
know it feels like you're like, but I chose every

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day to play music. You didn't. You just got born
with a brain that is good at practication. Wants to
take away any kind of talent. It's not not but
I want to give it to science. She wants to
give it to a guy on across. I'm sure, but yeah, um,
it was deflating to tell me. Okay, so facts and

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logic were no match for my parents opinions my parents.
My parent wasn't self reflective and rarely looked at his
or her role in a problem. My parents tended to
be black and white, be a black and white thinker,
and unreceptive to new ideas. Okay, So if you listen
to this checklist listener, and even one of those statements

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you said yes too, you could potentially be a child
of a emotionally immature parent, because even one of those
is enough to damage a kid in a way that
will lead to lots of behavioral problems later on in
your life that will suck up your life forever until
you learn to like go against that. And it's not
because your parents were bad. I have the best parents

(19:06):
in the world, but they were twenty five when they
had me, and they had parents that never listened to them,
weren't around alcoholics, Like there's no way they were equipped
to handle a little sensitive child's emotions all the time.
And if I had a child, I would also probably
be emotionally immature for that child as well, because we're
all flawed. So this isn't a book that you buy

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and then you like hate your mom. It's like you
don't even have to tell your mom about it, even
though your mom might listen to your podcast. And here
you go off this checklist and say, I was very
hurt by that checklist. When have I been defensive about anything?
I always support you know, I got a total of five,

(19:49):
which I thought it would be more like twenty, but
I got five. Yeah, I got like, yeah, I got
enough where I said, Okay. Then you read the book
and you just read the patterns of like people, people pleasers.
They put their own feelings aside for someone else. I mean,
it's all it's all a codependency, it's all kind of adult. Also,
this could all fit for adult children of alcoholics, but

(20:10):
I think this is a more helpful thing because I
think a lot of kids here I'm not going to
read about being an adult child of alcoholic because my
parent didn't drink or my parent was never drunk around me.
They can't associate their parents or their parents hasn't qualified
as an alcohol to alcohol it to them, and so
they don't know. This is like something to wrap your
head around so you can know it's not your fault

(20:32):
whatever it is that you are and do, which I
think is most of therapy is learning it's not your fault.
And then when you're able to think of things is
not your fault, I think you're able to get over
them more Like on you, you were suffering this weekend
with like a thing, and you're like, as long as
you like let yourself off the hook for it, because
you were, without getting into specifics, you were saying, like

(20:52):
I realized I'm just fucking crazy sometimes and like I
can't control my thoughts around this thing. How did you
did you feel like that was acceptance or that was
judgmental of like you're crazy. In the moment, it felt heartbreaking, Like, God,
I work so hard on myself and I'm just as

(21:13):
crazy as you know. I'm around my family right now,
so I get caught up in the toxic cycles of
like an old dynamic. I'm sure a lot of people
can relate. So I felt heartbroken, and then I was like,
it's okay because I do have so many tools, and
when I take one step back from these people, a
loving step back, I am not crazy anymore. Like I am,

(21:36):
I am temporarily insane. And someone said something to me
so great, I've already told you this, nicky, But no,
I maybe I haven't told you. I've been holding onto
this adage. Boundaries are the distance between me and you
where I can love myself and still love you. So
I have these like loving boundaries. People don't seem to

(21:56):
like them, but I have them so that I can
be nice to you and myself and so I can
still have you. Yeah, I have a thing. I don't
love people staying over at my house for more than
four days. Four days max, God, Well, Chris and I
do this thing where like I only want to see
him if he's in a good mood. That I can nurse,

(22:18):
you know, like, if he's in a bad mood needs
to talk about things, babe, I'm there for you. But
if you're tired, hungry, let's go. I mean, if you're
what's it called dirt or something, halt halt, it's the
acronymic halt, dick, halt, hungry, angry, lonely, tired. That's usually

(22:41):
what people are like, um, but there's a there's a
lot of times where I'm just like I. I can
hear that he's not in the best moon, and I
know the kind of mood he's in where he wants
to talk about it and like he has to work
through something, and I know the type of mood where
he's just doesn't want things aren't going to go well

(23:02):
between us. And I also have those moods too, where
I'm like, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but
don't come over tonight because it's not This isn't going
to move our needle forward in our relationship. This is
only going to take away. But there's the illusion of
like being together that gives people. If you're not with
the person they think you're, you don't love them. But

(23:23):
it's like I love you. That's why I'm not hanging
out with you tonight, as I want to maintain how
I like you because I am not. I am walking
on a tight rope of my own emotions. I'm gonna
fall off it and I'm going to hurt you. I'm
gonna hurt you like I need to protect you from me. Yes,
I'm a toxic train in Ohio or wherever that was

(23:45):
that burning day away FLEs there. It's terrifying. Um, yeah,
it's it's it's I as someone who is definitely a
crazy person and can have my moods and act everything
around me like like an infection. I have to quarantine

(24:05):
myself from people. I should put on masks when I'm
in a sour mood, and it sucks sometimes because you
gotta record a podcast or you gotta sucking. Podcasts are
the hardest thing for me because there's no allusion. There's
no I don't put on a face for a podcast.
If I did, it would show up that I was
putting on a face. A podcast is some If I was,

(24:28):
you know, in a bad mood today and I had
to do this podcast, you would sense it. There would
be like a fucking you know you. It was last
year yesterday's podcast. I was sad and I but if
I was shooting a commercial, I could have snapped out
of it because everything's a facade and it's like welcome
to Holiday and Express or whatever the funk I'm promoting.
I can put that. I can put a cape over

(24:49):
my feelings. But if I'm in a situation like a
podcast where it's like I'm myself and there's no I
don't even know what an edifice would be here if
I were to put one on. Believe me, I put
someone before on rough episodes that we've had to just
because of relationship things going on. But if it's just
us three, I'm not going to be able to put that.
I don't even know what that would be, to be

(25:11):
fake around you guys and be like everything's great. This
more like it just doesn't. So that's where I get
into rocky territories when I'm forced to do things where
I get to be myself and I and I have
to just and then it's almost like, um, like there
are days I would choose not to do a podcast
because I'm in a bad mood. But you but you
have to go to work or you would choose not
to go to your s SDJ. You're still sucking day

(25:33):
job because you're in a bad mood. You should be
able to call in sick mentally to things. I don't
think we're ever close to that happening, But I really
resent that everyone gets to be like cold today and
I can't be like I want to jump off my
balcony today. So I don't think I can make it
to my dentist appointment, like I want to be able

(25:53):
to say that which I did say to myst wouldn't
be my dent dentists would now he'd be like, without
those that amount of work that you need to have done.
Now I'm getting bonding on I'm bonding with my dentist.
It's is it? My calendar is dentist bonding? Because I
wrote it in tomorrow I was excited a meat over

(26:14):
a campfire. Yeah we're gonna hold hands and talk about
our emotionally unavailable parents. Um. Yeah, we're gonna do trust
falls out in the woods. Um, so I'm bonding with
my dentist tomorrow. Who's Scott Baculus, nephew? No, just name dropped, No,
not big deal. Dr Baculus shout out, Yeah he really is. Um,
but yeah, it's just though I wish that you could.

(26:38):
Um I did. I mean I've called in. I've called
in depressed to things but before and then, but I
always do it when I know the person is going
to be very understanding and like kind of gets it.
And it also talk about bonding if you tell someone
that you're depressed and you like open up to them
about that, like I can't make it today, like I'm depressed. Man,
is that like just it? I did it for my

(27:01):
vocal coach the other day, Like I was like, I'm
too depressed to meet I'm sorry, I'm not gonna lie
and say anything else, like I just I'm having horrible
thoughts today. And the next session we were like all
we did was talking about that kind of stuff and
like bonded so much because it was like instead of
me being like I'm busy or I don't feel very
good today, it just cut through the ship. And if

(27:23):
we could be more open about being depressed or those thoughts,
I wouldn't feel like such a weirdo sometimes because it
seems like I have a chronic disease. That's just like
go for a walk around the block. And that's how
you solve it, Nikki. And it's just like, well this,
if I could do that, I would. I can't walk
around like you know what I mean. I just don't

(27:45):
think other people cancer doesn't get this kind of like
you know, just try harder make your bed every morning,
Like tell a cancer patient that, like that's the kind
of thing I'm feel like I'm up against some days.
Is like an actual physical illness, but it does you know,
and everyone knows this about mental illness is that it
doesn't get the same respect that physical illness does because

(28:06):
it seems like a choice. Um. But I'm just like
the more and more I suffer with it, um, and
it is stuff that There's also obviously stuff I can do.
Like sometimes people get lung cancer and you go, why
are you still smoking? It's like okay, yeah, put down
the cigarettes. There's things I can definitely do, um and
try to do. But I do wish that we can
get to a point as a society where you could

(28:28):
call in sick, or you can also just make say
that you were molested and then people go, oh, okay,
sorry I didn't know that, and you could be like, yeah,
that's why I was late or whatever. I just it's
a new joke. I'm working on my act. But I
think you should casually be able to say you were
molested and have people if you forgive you yeah, well
yeah if you were if you were molested, I think

(28:49):
it should be as easy to admit as saying I
had my hair like or as shameful I guess as
being like I had botox or so I don't know,
or like I I my car hydroplaned, and like sometimes
you feel it fault for like like the amount of
shame you have for getting in a car accident, because
that's some people do a shame about card, since that's
what I mean, like a little bit maybe, which I

(29:11):
think you should have zero, but we'll never expect that
out of anyone because we're a country of shame. But
being molest it should seem like you just got hit
by a car or something like it's a car accident
and you had the right of way to walk and
you didn't know. But instead because if someone was like
I'm sorry, I I'm if they kept being late for
meetings or zoomings or something and they were like, I'm sorry,

(29:33):
I was lost as a kid, I'm really fucked, I'd
be like, oh, okay, yeah, well I'm glad you even
can function, or like if they're like my dad beat
me severely, Like I think people should be able to
like kind of give their mental illness history or like
they're child abuse history without it being so heavy. I
wish definitely never seen since you started talking more about

(29:56):
botox and filler, I've seen way more people start doing
that too. I'm not saying you started it, but you're
define so open about it. Like five years ago or
maybe even longer, but nobody it was not cool to
talk about that openly. I feel like it's still something people.
Yeah people still yeah, keep it very secret. But that's

(30:17):
a really good comparison those two things. Like people have
less shame than they did five ten years ago aout
admitting the botox, And I always compared botox to getting
your hair died, Like it used to be shameful to
get your hair highlighted, like women used to like hide,
like go secretly at night like they were they wouldn't
talk about it, and it was rude to say did

(30:38):
you get highlights? Yes, exactly, and that we don't even
know that there's your natural although you know that's a game.
What in the book the game that's an egg like
that because those written. But it wouldn't be an egg
now because you'd be like, of course it's not natural.
You take out your hair and be like, no, it's
from a woman in India, this isn't mine. Um, yeah,

(31:01):
that I wanted to be. I like, yeah, I would
like things to be a little bit more just transparent,
I guess, just honest and transparent, um than they are.
But it's just, you know, not that way I was yesterday.
I was at a very um high pressure event all
day long. I was at um Cynthia Rowley fashion show.

(31:21):
Because it's fashion Week in New York, which is my
least favorite week. I forgot that it was that. Do
you guys remember fashion Week when you lived in New
York and just like you and I lived together, our
street was a major hub before it because there are
tons of galleries and they would have shows on two.
It's just like, yeah, and it's just like an alien

(31:42):
start ship lands in Manhattan and lets off a bunch
of seven foot tall people cats cats, seven foot tall,
lengthy vertical cats and they walk around, yes, and they
they truly look so I mean, I saw a model

(32:03):
yesterday at this thing and she was probably six ft two,
very thin, and I was like, well, and she was.
I saw her taking pictures. She was stunning, had a
gorgeous body, gorgeous face. But then I was like, oh,
she's the awkward tall girl in high school. These models
are not like hot in high school. She was like

(32:23):
on the volleyball team. Maybe it was probably really good
social studies student. Like this girl. I just saw her
for like, she's this supermodel, Like I don't know about
super but you know she's special. She's special model and
m she uh she wasn't the super Bowl of models.
She was like the Orange Bowl of Models or whatever,

(32:44):
um Dorito's Bowl and she but I just saw she
was like a high school dork, which most models are
like kind of dorks, you know. But um, I was
at this event and it was a bunch of comedians
Ego from UM s N who's hilarious, uh, Rosebud Baker,
Rachel Feinstein, Claudia oh Sary, I want to say she's

(33:10):
a girl with no job on Instagram. Um and then
esther Coup, Michelle boto Art and Mirren and we were
all doing this UM the show where we got like
we went I went to a fitting yesterday. We have
two looks, one for our stand up set, which was
five minutes long, which, by the way, if you do
stand up, like no one knows how to do a

(33:31):
five minutes that We were all like, what is that even?
Like you would just go out and say Hi, my
name is NICKI and I'm an alcohol Like what do
you even say for five minutes that It's like, unhurt.
I haven't done five minutes since I did the Tonight show.
Like I was making jokes with Rachel, like you have
to submit your set to Michael Cox by four pm,
like for standards and practices, because it was like that's
who you know, get you on this tonight show. But

(33:53):
it was just like it was a short amount of time,
but it wasn't about comedy, was more but but Cynthia
Raley kepting like, no, it's about the comedy. It's not
about the fashion. We're like, no, we are all wearing
outfits we would never fucking were outside of this. We
looked amazing the fashion. I love Cynthia Rowley. Thank god
I got asked to do a fashion show earlier this
year that was happening in Paris that a lot of

(34:15):
comedians did. You can look it up, but I'm not
going to say who it was. I turned it down
because I thought the designs were so hideous, like I
couldn't find one thing in this collection, and you will
know it when you see it, when you go see
find the comedians that did this fashion show. I don't
know how this person. I'm sorry, artists subjective, but not

(34:38):
this art It is objectively bad. I don't know how
anyone would ever wear any of the ship And it
was all like the coolest guys in comedy too, which
made me laugh that they have to wear these ridiculous
outfits even though they're like bad boys of comedy. And
I can't wait to see a couple of them to
mock them for it, because they must have felt so
uncomfortable doing this fashion show. But I got us. I

(35:00):
turned that down because I was like, I don't want
to wear any of these clothes. Cynthia Rally, my god,
is like one of my favorite designers anyway. She's like
someone who's dresses I wear all the time, and um
so I was so excited I got to meet her.
I also saw her daughter on The Bachelor. The daughter
kid was on one of the butts, so I liked
I liked her daughter, so I knew her mom would

(35:20):
be cool. She was so fucking cool, so normal, so nice.
Someone I'm like, literally truly could be friends with. And
I don't say that about everyone. Like if she was
just like a kind of like a what you would
like an Anna Wintour type, I'd be like, she was amazing.
She's so such an artist, like I would just say
that cursory thing. This woman was actually the real deal,

(35:42):
so cool and um went to a fitting yesterday which
was super easy, and I thought it was going to
be like very uncomfortable, but it was in like her
studio with like all of her like people that are
working there. And then they have like a little shop
up front with some stuff, and I got to wear
this like red number and then this other white dress
with these boots that's just fantastic, and multiple outfits because

(36:03):
we had like a curtain call look at the end
and then so but backstage we had to get there
at Here's how quickly I do my hair and makeup.
If I'm going on stage, I can be full hair
and makeup, total glam from the time I get out
of the shower too, walking on stage forty minutes to
blow dry everything. I'm fast when I get my hair

(36:24):
and makeup done with my team an hour and a half,
because even that's fast for me for most people because
they are usually like they need to a half hours.
We were there at our Carlton was three thirty. We
didn't go on until eight, and I was like, I
don't need to get there fifteen hours early. But but
I wasn't in charge of the day we're there, like

(36:46):
it was kind of like the no one and no
one should put their foot down because we were all
equals that day, like no one's I'm not going to
be a devon and show up at six when everyone
else has been there since four. But we're all getting
ready in the same room. We're all that just like
there's different stations and it's just like you go here,
you go there. And I realized in this process the

(37:07):
on the fashion side of things amazing. Treated like a princess.
I love Cynthia Raley. I love the people that she
works with. It was so fun. Makeup and hair side
of things a little bit commoditized, like if that's a
word you I realized with a I have a friend
who's a model, sayer Lena, and I always when she

(37:30):
talks about her day's modeling, she does and I've heard
this before from other people too, is that models are
just treated like objects, like they're just objectified, like they're
talked about in front of each other, like people will
just be like, this needs to come in. Oh my god,
her waist is spilling over that this is not gonna fit.
She looks tired, like they'll they'll talk about you, like

(37:50):
your car that they're working on, and you forget that
you're there. Whereas as a comedian in a makeup chair,
I sit down, I go I okay, So I really
like a dark eyebrow with like a sharp edge on
the um on the front. I don't want them to
look like a little round sperms. I like uh eyeliner
in the waterline. I like um full lashes, but not

(38:10):
too full like false eyelashes. I like mascara on the bottom.
I do not like any kind of eyeliner on the bottom.
I like a thin line on the top. I like
a wing. I like really like pinky blush. I like
a slight contour on chin. And then um, cheek, I
like know exactly what I want because I've been doing
this forever and I swear to God. The guy goes, wow, okay,
do you know what you want? Like offended, because when

(38:36):
you're a model, you just sit in a chair and
get makeup done. There's no mirror in front of you,
so you can be like, um, can you actually just
you get your makeup done, and then you don't get
to look at and go I like it or not.
You just moved to the next station. And by the
end of the night, Rachel had overheard someone commenting about
some outfit. She'll have to tell it next time she's

(38:56):
on the podcast. I think it's gonna go in her
act because she heard someone's saying, we need to find
an we uh, we need to find another dress for
Esther and they go, no, Esther looks great. Rachel's probably something.
It was like Rachel heard with an earshot, like we
need to fix like, which is Rachel's biggest fear in
life is that she's like a problem and like and

(39:18):
it was not the case at all. Rachel looked amazing,
but like we kept all each of us overhearing little
things where we weren't where we were like, and then
the second you start feeling like a model, Like the
second you're like, have all your glam and you have
your fucking awesome outfit that's so tight and looks so good,
and your shoes and you look tall and you look leggy.
Then in walks this model. We don't even know why

(39:39):
they brought in a model. We don't even know what
she did. She was just there to make us realize,
you know, you are not know if you were starting
to think that you are a model. Look over there
at that woman who is a foot taller than you,
forty pounds lighter than you, wearing that thing like she
was born in it, with the cheek bone, the cheek

(40:02):
structure of I don't know, gollum, Like this is you're
you're nowhere close to her and they you know, I
just jokes to examine these clowns. It was weird, which
we didn't even know why she was there. I introduced
myself to her. I was like taking pictures of her
because she was so pretty. She was like doing a
shoot and I was behind the photographer being like is
this weird that I'm taking? Like you're captivating and I

(40:24):
want to learn poses. I was making jokes, like at
one point we were backstage and there was like a
bowl of mints and someone was and the mints were
all eaten, and someone was like, wow, someone like those mints.
And I was like model dinner, and I was just
like making jokes like that. They did give us a
really good food, They treated us awesome. I mean, it
was just a really long day and I'm not gonna lie.

(40:45):
It sets women up to be competitive when you have
seven women on a show, all comedians from different genres
of comedy, like we're talking sketch, we're talking stand up,
we're talking TikTok, and then you all have to do
five minute it's. And everyone who loved that show was like,
I like this person best. I like this person like
you can't go to a comedy show without ranking everyone

(41:07):
who you liked the best. And I'm not talking about
my comedy shows because I have maybe two or three
comics at most on them. And you're gonna like me
the best. You should because I do the most of
my time. And if you like someone more than me,
it's because they did a shorter amount of time and
they got to do their best jokes, whereas I had
to boo a bunch of jokes, I had to do
an hour. So this whole idea of like, I'd like
to opener better eight minutes, he did eight minutes. You

(41:32):
might maybe you should, but also maybe you just do
and not he, she, anyone. It's just like that's a
common thing in comedy where you'll be the headliner and
that you'll see the opener. Someone go you were the best,
and you go, oh, really because I did an hour
in fourteen minutes and he did eight. So maybe don't
say that in front of me with an earshot because

(41:52):
you know I can hear it. But you get to
play like, oh, I was just there. I just really
resonated with. But but that's not he or she. I'm
not talking about Andrew specifically or anyone that it's happened with.
Andrew used happened to me as an opener. People would
say it in front of to you know what, in
front of headliners to me and go like you were
actually and I'm like, I did twenty minutes and they

(42:14):
did an hour twenty of course you're gonna like me more.
I leave I left you wanting more. Um. But it
was just like a competitive day because we all I
went out on stage and I was like, are we're models?
You guys were models? Like are you loving this comedy
show from a bunch of models? I go, We're not models.
We all are very deeply uncomfortable with the setting. The
reason we got into this is because we're not good

(42:36):
at this. And the whole audience was influencers. I mean,
it was all fashioned, but they were a great audience.
It was really a great show. It was so fun.
I talked about like a girl falling in a fire
and how I like loved that, like I did. I did.
There was one there was a little bit of heckling
going on and people kept going like because I was like,
am I hot? You guys like I need to feel hot.

(42:57):
I need to be hot, And people kept going like
you're what you're so? And I go because I'm rich,
and it was it's rich or d n A. That's
all it is. If you're averagealous of someone, it's because
they're rich and they can afford something you can't, or
their mom was hot, or their dad had good legs.

(43:18):
That's it. And it was just so freeing to scream
at all these trendy people, to be like stop and
scream it myself. I mean, it's honestly, like I'm telling myself,
Like when I get jealous of people, I always have
to remember it's because their dad or mom had good
genes or they had the money to do a certain treatment.
And that's where I start beating myself up, is like

(43:39):
I'm not doing the right treatments. That's where I start going, Oh,
I need to do this and that. I want to
talk about Rihanna's super Bowl when we come back. And
I also want to talk about something with Olivia Wilde
that came up after the super Bowl and get your
guys thoughts on that. So we'll talk about that when
we get back. All right, we're back. Um, how do

(44:00):
you guys feel about rihanna super Bowl halftime show? I
mean we're a little late to it, but I do
want to give my take. I loved it. I love her,
That's all I have to say. She could in my book,
she can do wrong in mine, because I've read about
her fenty line and how it course people into like
signing up for like way more money than like a membership,
and then they like their bank accounts were drained by

(44:22):
this thing and that all her clothes are made in sweatshops,
and she's a billionaire, so she's definitely done some things
that are shady, and you know she's bullied people online
that I didn't care for that kind of stuff. But man,
can that girl sing? And man, that performance. If you
think it was boring, you're boring. You. You're someone who

(44:44):
needs too much stimulation. You're boring. Look at yourself if
you thought that, If you've left that performance is boring,
it's because you are boring you probably, And I get it,
like there are times where I am a boring person
too that I'm like, I want more like Pizzazz. We
needed nothing thing more from her. Those stages moving were
great enough. The dance sequences. Even though people were joking

(45:05):
about how she wasn't moving a lot, she fucking ended
up moving a lot. Maybe she started out slow, but
there and she's also pregnant and she's singing. Yeah, she
wasn't singing in some parts she was and like, yes,
they were agreed, but they there was tracks, but also
she was singing over track but she um but which
is fine. I don't even fault that when people are

(45:26):
like she was lips singing or whatever it's like. But
at least she sang that live at some point recently
into a microphone, and it sounded like live to me.
It didn't sound like two souped up or like too
many effects on it. It sounded live. So whether she
did it there or another time, I don't care. It
was recent enough. This girl has not performed live to

(45:47):
my knowledge, in like four years. Can you imagine the
first time you perform live and you never test out
any of them? I mean, she's she's done so many
concerts in the past, but years of being dormant. Is
the super Bowl halftime show, which is the biggest stage,
the biggest show that you could do. I thought it
was her voice. Her voice commanded enough, and you know

(46:10):
what also commanded enough, her fucking energy, the confidence that
woman had. I've said it before about Dave Chappelle, when
I was watching him one time on stage, I said
that man is more comfortable on stage than I am
in bed. And that's the way I fought about Rihanna.
She was so comfortable. There was no part of me
that was worried about her. When I watched Katie Perry's

(46:31):
Super Bowl I was worried when I'm watch Lady Gaga,
even Gaga, she's a very competent performer that makes me
feel secure. I was even like when I watched j
Lo I was literally like having a panic attack of
like can she do? Like even though she she's another
performer that never fails. But Rihanna, I was My blood

(46:52):
pressure went down. It was just like the way she
was sauntering around the stage, the way even the moment
with her fenty Beauty product where she's touching her own makeup,
which is a brilliant marketing, Like I know that it
was maybe presented to make it look like, oh, the
camera switched to her too quickly and they caught her
touching of her makeup. They weren't supposed to. That was

(47:13):
for the dumbest person watching That was that was who
that was meant for the dumbest person watching goes They
should her touching up her makeup. They weren't supposed to.
That's literally anyone who thought that should be. I don't
want to say what I think they should, but like
shouldn't procreate anymore, like anyone who was goofed into thinking
like they cut the camera too close. First of all,

(47:35):
if they did, she would be having makeup artists to
her makeup. She would not be touching it up herself.
So that's how I know that was a that was
put in there, but it was also a wink to like,
I know what I'm doing. I'm a marketing genius. I'm
putting in a moment where I touched up my own
makeup on TV in the middle of my performance. What
does that say to girls watching at home, touch up
your makeup whenever you want that shameful thing of going

(47:56):
to the bathroom to do your powder, do it in
front of the guy at the table Bowl. I just
did it at the fucking Super Bowl during my performance.
Never feel ashamed for doing your makeup and having makeup
nearby you and having my makeup nearby you. It was genius.
It was genius. And then then at the end when
she walks in and she's just like at the when

(48:18):
she knows that she's in, like the she's the fucking
it's in the final stretch of the show, and she
walks and she's like, you know, high fiving or like
whatever she's doing with like the musicians and kind of
just like sauntering around the stage confidently like her just
like having a moment with her musicians. It was I
was awe struck and I was watching on my little phone.

(48:40):
I watched it after the fact because I was flying
when it happened. I thought it was awesome. I loved
there wasn't too much bombastic bullshit. I don't need to
see fireworks. I don't need to see people dangling from things.
I don't need to see fifty cents hanging from a wall.
I thought the Doctor Dre Snoop Pastime show was bad.

(49:02):
Really sorry, I thought it was bad. I I love them,
I'm not like a huge, huge fan. I thought that
set was stupid. I didn't like all the it looked
like a little Barbie house dollhouse. I just thought it
was dumb. I thought the performances were good, but I
thought the set design was was dumb. And what do
I know about set design? Literally nothing. So if you're

(49:24):
watching this and you design that set and you're like,
what the funk? Literally I'm an idiot. So I don't
know anything. And I'm the only one who didn't like
the performance, and I can only feel confident saying I
didn't like it now that I loved Rihanna's because now
I know what I like and I did not like that.
And I remember after that happened, everyone was like, that
was the most amazing thing everyone. I was like, I

(49:44):
was bored, and it felt weird and it felt like
I was just looking at these little like a little
play happening inside the doll house. I didn't like it.
I love the music so much that it took me
back and made me feel nostalgic. And I think they're
creating sets to make you feel like you're in Compton. Okay,
so it worked, but maybe the super Bowl for me,

(50:07):
I did not feel like I was there. But remember
the performer, the girl doing sign language, that was amazing,
so cool. Yeah, they should have cut between her back
and forth from her and Rihanna Like that was such
a that was like this whole other life that it
was given. Okay, So I want to talk about this
thing though that Olivia wild posted. Now, Olivia Wilde, you
know is was dating Harry Styles is not anymore. They

(50:31):
broke up. Final thought Harry Styles to set the stage
for this. He did not. He's never really acknowledged that
she's his girlfriend. Ever impressed even when they were dating. Okay,
um oh, I got a Valentine's Day thing from Chris.
It's not huge, but it's a frog emoji, and that's

(50:52):
like our way of saying I love you as a
frog emoji. It's a long story, but I did get
a frog emoji Happy Valentine's Day to YouTube baby. Um so, uh,
he's never acknowed that. It made me think of that.
I was like, oh, is my boyfriend acknowledged me today?
So he never acknowledged her In an interview during he
did make Let's say if you made the deadline though,

(51:12):
because when did this come in by half an hour?
He did not make He did know he did it.
He sent it one fifty, he was ten minutes, he
made it ten minutes to go. So I still have
a boyfriend. Everyone was really there was any consequences of that. Yeah,
he said a frog And you know what, and you
know what I love about it is he didn't know

(51:35):
I was trying to make the frog emoji R way
of saying I love you. You You know, some people have
like a thing like you know in that stupid fucking
movie where Lady Guga like strokes down or dumb fucking
knows and like that sort of their way of being like,
I love you, baby star is born. I hate that
so much, but I wanted like a thing like that.
The other day I sent him this frog picture that
like it said on the frog it said like, look

(51:56):
at the left corner, bottom left corner, and then you
looked down there and a little thing says, look at
the right top corner, and then you go up there
and you and then goes, now, no, don't look up here.
Look at the frog's tongue and like very small in
the frog's tongue and says I love you. So it
has to you like jumping all over this photo and
then it says I love you, but you can't see
any of that unless you look closely. And so then
I sent that to him one day and he was like,

(52:17):
I really liked that, and I was like, and it's
kind of stupid. So I was like, well, that's cute
that he liked it, because it's kind of like, I
don't know, it was just like, uh, dorky and corny.
But then um, the other day I sent it again
and then sent the frog emoji after it to be like,
this is what means what I love you. So now
he's connected it and I succeeded. I got a little

(52:39):
emoji sign with my boyfriend. You know, it's the small
things in life. Really. So Olivia Wild posted about the
Rihanna's performance asap Rocky, who is Rihanna's I don't know husband,
but definitely baby daddy boyfriend. Um. She he was like
cheering her on and I guess she posted a video

(52:59):
or all. I was the still of it, but it
was on her story and she said, um, oh my god,
what is the direct quote? Noah? Okay, so she she
tagged Rocky and Rihanna and she goes, if I thought
he was hot before, this really put me over the edge. Okay,
So he was filming Rihanna right, And people are savagely

(53:21):
attacking Olivia Wild for writing this because she said if
I thought I loved I thought he was hot before,
She's calling someone else's man hot. She tagged him and
her in it. What do you guys think about this?
We're gonna talk about her what she said afterwards, which
I think I know what she was doing. I don't think.
I think she was trying to make a point to
Harry Styles, like a man that supports his woman is hot.

(53:45):
I did not. It's exactly what she was doing because
her her post afterward, because people were like, how dare
this bitch called Rihanna's boyfriend hot, baby daddy hot? You
don't say another woman's man is hot, which I would
not be bothered by that at all, An, what do
you mean? I mean people do it all the time.

(54:05):
I guess if you're a celebrity or celebrity does not
publicly say someone's hot if they Like the other day,
I did an interview and I said someone was hot
that has a wife, and I was like, you know,
on my vision board we might end up together. And
I was like, you know, because they could get divorced.
You never know what happens. And I'm like literally quaking
now in fear that that's going to like air and
people are going to destroy me for it because it's

(54:26):
like he's married, and it's like have you ever heard
of divorce before? Like, I'm sorry, Like and also I
have a boyfriend. I'm sorry, It's all a joke. I
was just joke. I don't really have a vision board
of this guy. I'm getting mad about something people aren't
even mad at me about. So let me just having
arguments in your head beep beep. Okay. So then Olivia

(54:47):
Wilde wrote back to all these people being like, how
dare you? Everyone fucking hates Olivia Wilde? Okay, everyone does.
I like her. People hate her though, because they're jealous.
She's beautiful. There's a little apotism. I think that might
be going on that people are like, that's what, she's
a former princess and she she what she's a former princess. Yeah,

(55:09):
she was married to her prince. Okay that and also
Harry Styles. Women are so jealous and she's gorgeous and perfect.
They're talented and talented, and she's a director and she
likes the lime like she likes to be behind the
camera in front of the camera. We all hate it.
She's artistic, she's cool, she like looks flawless and everything.
We are jealous. Me is jealous. Okay, So that's what

(55:32):
they're attacking her. But also, would you be pissed if
someone wrote about your man. I used to think Matt
Pond was hot. Now he's so hot because of how
much he is loving on your I would be I'd
be like, yes, bitchy, that is hot. I get exactly
what she meant. Noah, If I'm tagged, it's okay. If
I'm not tagged, I don't know. Okay. She was gonna

(55:55):
take her earrings out. Well, you know what, if she
didn't tag Rihanna, people would have said that exactly. They
would have been like, why didn't you tag Rihanna? You're
trying to make a pass at asap. No, she didn't
tag sheet. But then because she tagg Rihanna, I was
looking at all the comments. They were like, how fucking corny.
She tagged Rihanna, like she wants her to see that
she's coming for her man. I'm like, this bitch can't win.
So then Olivia, following the backlash, wrote another thing on

(56:18):
her story, and I liked what she said because it
is exactly It tells you exactly what you need to
know about why she posted it. She's talking about Harry Man.
She did not get the support from harry that she wanted.
She wanted him to be proud of her. She wanted
him to brag about her. She wanted to post about her.
She wanted him to like hold up his phone. She
wanted him to do the same thing that she was

(56:38):
doing at the Harry Styles Concerts, which was holding up
her phone and dancing. She was captured many times supporting
him from the side stage. Where was Harry during Don't
Worry Darling Press, We didn't see him. That's what maybe
led to their breakup. Who really knows, But what did
she say? No? So she writes for anyone who got
it twisted, it's hot to respect your partner, especially when

(57:00):
your partner just did that like that, like what Rihanna
just did. It's not as overt as I initially thought.
But I know women, and I know what is going
on here. This was not about asap racky. This was
This was not about I don't really keep saying racky rocky.
This is not about Rihannah and I'm saying her name

(57:23):
Rihanna and how she feels about her or like trying
to get it's how she feels about Harry. She's projecting
And aren't we all today? Frog emoji gotta get out
of here. Thank you guys for listening. We will see
you next week. Happy Valentine's Day, belated. Um, come see
me this weekend. Where are we, Anya? Um? We're not

(57:43):
anywhere this weekend. Oh, I know where I'm this weekend.
I'm in Vegas. Um, so if you're a millionaire, comes
see me in Vegas as Steven Tyler's charity for um Alzheimer's.
I will be there with Sammy Hagar and John Mayer
and um oh loads of other people. It's a huge
event that I'm doing on Saturday night, so wish me

(58:04):
luck on that. I'll tell you about it on Tuesday's
podcast and um and then the next weekend we are
where we are in Bloomington, Newport, Kentucky, Lexington, Kentucky. Oh
my gosh, Kentucky, Indiana, get on it. Europe that is
coming up in May. Can't wait to see you guys
out there. Please, besties come to shows. I love meeting you.

(58:26):
You can get free meat and greets if you go
to the merch booth and just tell them that you're
a bestie, they'll hook you up. UM and I can't
wait to see you at a show. And thank you
so much for listening. I hope you have a great day,
and I hope your parents aren't emotionally unavailable. Don't encouraging

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