October 29, 2020 • 43 mins
They say “age is just a number,” but if you’re dating someone way younger you might have to do some young people stuff by proxy. Like learn a TikTok dance. And if you’re dating someone old as f***, you might have to get used to eating dinner at 4:45pm. On this episode of The Pleasure is Ours, Cody is joined by platinum certified rapper, producer, and MILF connoisseur Yung Gravy, to discuss the intricacies of pursuing younger or older partners. Gravy’s done both. At the same time, too (apparently, it’s called a threesome). But is age “just a number” when it comes to life in general? Gravy argues that it’s never too late to reinvent yourself, whereas Cody wants to call it a day at 30. Plus, Gravy dishes about the time he once helped a teen overcome bullying — by sleeping with her mom.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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if you have sex. Wait, so you're telling me that
that you curbed will because you slept with someone's mom. Okay,
(01:03):
I try to remember the exam one got bullied less
because you fucked their mom. That's amazing. You have a
trouble with life, We'll let me give you some of fun. Hey,
what's up. I'm Cody co and welcome to the Pleasure
Is Ours, the podcast in which we examine some of
the worst advice people hear their whole lives and try
(01:24):
to make it better. They say, age is just a number.
But while the thought of a one year old lady
finally getting her g e d Is just heartwarming, you
wouldn't let that same lady drive to the supermarket for
a gallon of milk out of fear that she might
commit vehicular manslaughter. On the opposite end of the spectrum,
we all love a good story about a two year
old that can identify every country on the globe, or
(01:47):
yodel really well in a Walmart or something. Right, those
kids always end up flexing for ellen. But you also
wouldn't let that same toddler drive to the supermarket for
a gallon of milk out of fear that he would
commit vehicular manslaughter. So let's dissect this phrase, age is
just a number, and to help me do that today,
I'm joined by a very special guest. He's a platinum
certified rapper, singer, songwriter, and producer. His mom knows him
(02:08):
as Matthew and you all know him as the one
the only young Gravy. Welcome to the show, Gravy, thanks
so much for being here, beautiful, beautiful, thanks for Yeah.
I was fun and I'm in Atlanta, which is one
of my favorite places. So why are you in Atlanta? Uh?
Friend's birthday and studio time. Go to studio Sunny Digital tonight,
which I'm excited for, and then friend's birthday on Friday Saturday.
Do you just release an album? And aren't you like,
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shouldn't you be like taking time off, taking a couple
of days off? Yeah, but I'm saying, like you finished
an album, doesn't doesn't that make you want to take
like two months off or you just always working on
music no matter what. Yeah, it's not really, it's not
really like I like making music and stuff and uh,
yeah it's not really. I wouldn't consider that work. But yeah,
during like the peak of COVID, I got real bad
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Captain Fever back in Minnesota. I took a trip out
to Montana and like just did all this like mindless
outdoorsy stuff and like no one listens to rap there
to listen to like Macdamarco the whole time. Oh man,
that was what I needed, so I did. Montana is
like one of the best places ever, isn't it. Yeah?
Beautiful beautiful. I mean my first experience there was on probation,
and that part was that's that's a whole long story.
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But but no, no, I want to hear that. Okay, well,
well maybe I haven't told your story super So. I
actually got put on probation in Georgia because of like
this thing when I was eighteen I was in the
wrong place, wrong time with this like house party and
these like real kind of backwards cops up in northern
part of Georgia where like a lake house. If you
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all have seen Deliverance, someone seem deliverance that's listening to this.
It was like where that takes place. Yeah, wrong place
a long time. Got charged with like a bunch of
felonies for being like burglary and all this stuff. I'm
at a party because because the mom didn't know that
the kid was the namous party. I guess, So how
does it end up in burglary? Two counts of burglary
because we entered the house and then left and then
try to get back in to get like our keys
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and stuff so we could leave, and that was another
kind of burglary. I guess it's these cops want to
pull out anything they charged. They found. They found like
two pills and charged like eight people with felonies for
drug consumption or whatever. Anyways, I want to I moved
to Montana and did two or forty hours of probation
in Bozeman, but like every day I get off like
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ten hours work and all the room mention like, yo,
it's going to hike because it's like like go hike
for like five hours. Afterwards it was it was real intense.
You can't really get in trouble going on a hike,
you know. Yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah. And
I also wanted to get away from my like Minnesota
friends that were worst influences on me. Yeah. I moved
out to Bozeman and it was beautiful. And then I
went back to visit those friends and during COVID and
(04:39):
and it was it was beautiful. Hello, I love it
out there. Yeah, man, it's the fucking it's the best.
How's the album doing good? I actually I have a
thing where I don't look at stats of anything because
it's stressed me out. And it's like if I did
my best then if I mean, if I worked as
hard as I could, then like I should be had
with it, you know, Like I don't like checking up
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stats all the time. That's so true. It's like reading
comments the same thing. Yeah, I just do what you
gotta do, perform and then let it out. I mean
I say that, but I'm such a hypocrite because I'm
like the biggest, like look at every fucking number everything, okay, okay,
box my head. I get so stressed. Yeah, I like,
like you know, Alex maybe the money he does that
like over the topic, looks at everything and he like
(05:21):
asked every time I dropped from you know, how's it doing?
How many you use it again? How many of us
in my video get I might do Like I don't know,
I feel way better in my like, my mindset is
just better when I don't look at that stuff. I
have like an offelfa thing going on, and I keep
on like you've got some flow, man, me and you
both do. We got the I had so much hair
like a week ago. I don't know if you saw
me in like my full like it was like grant
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and it was kind of like like a grandmo with
a perm too, because I have like like long curls,
but like I cut it recently, so I'm like trying
to like get back in action. Speaking of Grandma's, that's
a great fucking segue. There we go. Yeah, serve that
up for me. Holy hell, you know, I've been I've
been planning it out for last two minutes. Speaking of Grandma's,
you're known to go for older women. It's like a
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meme with you at this point, right, Yeah, I mean
you're you're a mill connoisseur. Yeah, It's it's almost a
meme now because like I was into that and everyone
was like, oh, he's joking, but that was kind of
my thing, and I was into that, and and then
I like like ended up like with a few different
mills and and just women a lot older than me.
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It's a meme now because then like I kind of
got over that phase and now I'm like just messing
with girls my age or women that are that are
very close to my age. The milk thing isn't really
that huge for me anymore, but I still still rap
about it, so yeah, i'd call it. Wait are you
are you like single right now? Do you have a
I am? I am single right now? Um. I had
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uh girlfriend that was on and off for like the
last like two or three years. I think you met
No, no no, no, just I think I just like FaceTime
because she was obsessed with your girlfriend. She was obsessed
with your girlfriend and like and you and all your endeavors. Yeah,
she's is cool. But where it we're Yeah, I'm like
a finally like single now, like single single, Um, shout
out right. No, you know. It's hilarious about that. As
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people will ask me the oldest woman that I've been with,
and at the Wobbles woman I was with was was
forty seven. That's like like forty really, yes, you gotta
let me know. The thing with Brandy Love was that
a joke? Was that real? Because I remember when I
was like, holy fuck? Yeah. So you know, as a
fan of her work, yeah yeah, yeah, I think I
think everyone could could. It's hard to not be a
(07:32):
fan of Brandy Love. Um no, I so that video happened.
I shout at her out in this song when I
wrote it, and then because I was shoting on other milks,
you know, it's it's it's part of it's part of
the combo. Um. So some some of my favorite milks.
So I think, ever won't agree with Sophia Vergara Alasta girl,
um mrs incredible Brandy Love. I remember who else I
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shot it out in that song, but yeah, so I
was shouting out a few of the favorites. And then
when I get to the video shoot. I mean, I
had some good porn star friends who would just like
be in my videos, but they're not milk point stars.
They surprised me bringing through Brandy Love. Like here she
is like, oh my god. She was super excited to
do the video. And then I jokingly proposed her at
(08:15):
the at the thing and we're like, oh yeah, let's
make it a thing. So then we both like just
like posted about how we're getting married, even though he didn't,
so I wasn't playing actually get married. Yeah we didn't
get married, Yeah, but we should have been an interesting wedding.
It's funny you said forty seven earlier. She is the
oldest woman that I've hooked up with and she was
forty seven at the time. Oh you did up? Yeah, yeah,
(08:38):
not married, but yeah we did. We knocked boots. Yes,
that's fantastic. Yeah. And I figured out recently that's very uh,
aggressively right wing. I discovered, like I don't go on
Instagram much of it. I opened it up and saw that,
and I was like, oh, well, god, we didn't get married.
She's yeah. Yeah, so it's not a huge bragging point. Well,
(08:59):
I was gonna ask, like, you know, is she was?
She way better? But like because she's older, right, but
and he's not fair because she's a fucking porn star. Yeah, exactly.
She knows what she's doing. Yeah, but in your experience
older women, like are they better? You know? I'm I
think overall totally totally, But like I think it's a
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good thing and a bad thing. What I'm about to say,
uh that like sexual whatever is like introducing people younger
and younger all the time, and like it makes me
uncomfortable with thinking, Like, Yo, there's this song called Wet
Ass Pussy that like eleven year olds are singing right now,
you know, like that it makes me uncomfortable. But what
my point was gonna be uh is that like since
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people are like younger and younger sing all this stuff.
I mean I remember like probably like fourteen or fifteen.
Age fourteen or fifteen is when like people were like
losing their V cards for for my generation, I hope
that's not getting lower because that that's my fear, is
like I'm gonna have kids and they're gonna be like
doing it at like eleven. But I mean, imagine just
even knowing what what wapp stood for at eleven years old,
(10:05):
I didn't know. Yeah, dude, I was so what was that?
What were you doing when you were ten or eleven?
I don't even know what grade that is, but I
know that we weren't bumping anything, we weren't talking, we
weren't talking about the back of my throat or whatever.
But it wasn't on the topic of the conversation, no,
I got. I mean, it's probably just because yeah, you know,
you learned about this stuff earlier, and it's like that's
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all fueled by TikTok and Instagram and everything. Yeah yeah.
And also people are like just more comfortable yeah yeah,
which which was that part? I think is cool? The
amount of people that I went to college with that
hadn't lost opportuinities by college. I feel like now that
number is probably is way, it's different. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
my whole my whole point was was I guess I'm
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thinking back on it, probably the reason why younger women
that I flicked up with our experiences probably because it's
been like on tour and they're just their tour, you know.
Maybe they're groupies and that's that's where they they learned.
I don't know, I don't know if they hooked up
with the suicide was before me. Maybe they're on their
freaky ship and that's yeah, oh yeah, who knows how
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they fuck? Have you ever hooked up with a woman
with kids? Yes, Brandy Love has kids. She does, She
does have two kids. And actually her daughter d mned
me and was like there was something about how people
keep on bringing up that, like you hooked up with
my mom and stuffing, And then I was like I
brought her to a show and like did like a
meet and greet and all this stuff and basically looked
(11:31):
at it was like people were like kind of like
had been giving her ship throughout her whole like high
school career about how her mom's porn star. Oh yeah,
which I was like, yeah, that might suck. But then
I don't bring her on stage. What did I I
don't know. I did something where like she told she
hit me up later and she's like, yo, like I'm
getting a lot more love now at high school, at
my school, and like it's less hate. So that made
me feel good. I was like, because that would be
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a really weird thing to grow up with. Is if
your parents are if your mom is getting Wait, so
you're telling me that that you curbed bullying because you
slept with someone's mom. That's so fucking opposite. It was.
I mean, okay, I try to remember the exactly bullied
last because you sucked her mom, that's amazing. Yeah, it was.
(12:15):
It was just like it was like her friends were
fans of my music. I'm sure that her friends were
fans of my work and her mom's work. But uh
but because of yeah, because of me being acted to
her mom, I guess that they they took it easy
on her and she was more of like she was
cooler because that apparently, man, that's that's wild to be.
(12:38):
I think they have kids in high school and still
be like a working actress and just the way you
just put it back to me, the way you just
explain it, you know, that's that's hilarious. But yeah, you're like, man,
I just you know, I just did what I could
for her. You know, I just mad that she was
getting bullied, so I had to take one for the
team and fuck her. Mom. Oh okay, I'm gonna I'm
(13:05):
gonna read you. I'm gonna read you some lyrics that
you wrote. Oh god, all right, all right. I just
thought it was beautiful. I went to the store for
some chocolate flavored milk, came home with a thick, chocolate
colored milk. All she wanted was a little gravy train
for Christmas. She was purely interested in giving me the business.
What song is that from? Yeah, yeah, that's that is beautiful?
(13:29):
Uh from this song? Yeah yeah, that's a song called Cheryl.
It was one of my one of my bigger, one
of my bigger records out there. I think it was
actually pretty damn close to going gold. And then, uh,
this is something that I released before signing or anything before.
I had to like clear samples, so it has the
baby comeback sample the player and they they finally caught
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up to me and took it down. Nothing that's like
really still at d m s every day, like ye
know where Cheryl on Spotify and all that. But but hey,
but hey, we're I'm discussing with the band about potentially
getting it back up and you know, like all all
the sample issues I end up having, like George Michael's Estate,
I had a song with the George Michael sample, Perry
(14:13):
Como a few other ones. They usually are super anti.
They're always like instant denial because of my lyrics and
hip hop in general, because they're all a bit older
and mid whatever, like their their lives off soul music
or or do op or whatever it is. So the
usually we're against it, but it's it's great to sometimes
here when people are are actually down and into it
(14:33):
and so so now one of the members of Player
is with it. So there's a chance that that will
get Cheryl back so nice and so's all you gotta
do is clear the sample or like agree to pay
them a certain amount of money. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
and samples like a ton in your early music. Yeah totally.
How did you even start sampling? Like how did you
realize you sounded good over those beats and then like
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how many issues did you run into later when the
music started getting popular. So that was always my just
like I mean, my favorite type of hip hop was
like sampled stuff. Um, I was always a huge fan
of like the early Kanye stuff. Action Bronson is one
of my favorite rappers. Currency they all use like a
lot of those samples in their music. But but even
before that, I mean, I've been a huge fan of soul,
(15:17):
funk and all this music from like sixties through eighties
is like some of my favorites will listen to. I
still like listen to that more than hip hop usually.
So I knew that when I started making music that
like that was gonna be primarily my style was like
this kind of hip hop that samples soul doesn't usually
have trap drums like real like aggressive, hard hitting music.
So I was like, I'm gonna bring this sound out
(15:38):
and see people think of it. I mean, now it's
more common, partly because of me, I think, uh inspiring
some of these other artists that have now gotten bigger,
but also just people realize it's a dope sound. Most
of the samples. I was worried about it. Now I've
now been taken down, So yeah, it did will come back.
For all the rappers out there that are thinking about it,
it probably will come back eventually. But well, I mean,
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this is what this is are my men is like
when you're an independent artist just trying to grow and
like develop a sound and makes up I feel like
that's totally fine. Obviously you're like a huge artist and
you use a sample no clear it, Like that's kind
of sucked up. You're just gonna make tons of money
right away. That's probably funny. But yeah, in the beginning,
like really, yeah, I've and I've had so many artists
asked me about it, like the same question, like what's
(16:20):
the sample clearance situation? Like, and like dude, like for real,
I've I've some of these songs have been out for
three or four years, and I like, help me grow
so much and didn't have I didn't have any issues
with them until now. And if you're okay with like
losing the money on it, like I was, like, it's
totally worth it. You started music in college? Yes, uh one,
so three years ago. I'm older, right, I'm almost thirty.
(16:43):
I'm still trying to fucking word. I'm still trying to
do new ship all the time. Do you do you
ever feel like it's it's too late to reinvent yourself
career wise. You think there's like a point where it's
just too late, Like thirty, I feel like stop trying,
you know, dirty, And I'm like, oh, maybe I should
pick this up. I'm gonna be like, no, you're here's
a three in front of your fucking You're not gonna learn.
(17:03):
An brain is done, no new synapses firing, there's nothing
new developing up their stop. I always thought like, I mean,
I've changed my sort of plans so many times, Like
I started college as a physics major, hated it, switched
to psychology, loved it. But I was like, Okay, I
gotta do like something else, like so I gonna make money,
(17:25):
which I realized now didn't really matter. If you're just
like major, don't worry about it, Go go and do
it because that's just interesting. And I learned a lot
from it. I sawed all these different things, and then
I wanted to be a pilot for a while. Then
I find out I had a stigmatism. Didn't do that
because I wanted to travel for work, which I got
lucky you now, I have a career record to travel
a lot. I want to be a pilot all this stuff.
I started a few businesses in college. I sort of
(17:46):
basically like my friend and I like bought this electric
sort of kind of like a go kart thing but
has like a super long like back to it. It's
electric thing that goes thirty miles per hour. We would
hire people to sell pizza to two drunk kids around
the college campus. Babba Slice called the Pizza Roller, and
that was like like one of my main sort of
(18:06):
things I was working on at the same time as rap.
So I've I've always tried to like I mean, I
always want to be entrepreneur, and I worked at like
a startup ac celebrator all this different. I just feel
like I've changed my game plan so many times. I
plan like once I get sick a rap to like
what's next, I'm really in a film, either like directing
movies or something, directing something something that Brandy Love might start. Yeah, dude, Yeah,
(18:32):
when you when in a bridge the drama with with
drama film with with pornography, dude, I think I think
you still gotta bring that. Also, I mean I've had
so many ideas for like alcoholic beverages that then came
out later, like like the White Claw and the past
coffee mixers. I had both those ideas like in college,
(18:53):
and I was I just didn't have the resources for him.
So what do you got now any anything? So, uh,
you know, I'll just like them because someone's gonna have
them anyways. I'm thinking to two ideas I have right now.
Is is mimosas in cans branded towards college age women. Fuck,
that's good. And it's a little classy kind of like
a sand Pello greeno. But and and it's and it's
(19:15):
it's it's relatively healthy because it has real juice in it. Yeah,
so that's one of them. And then I thought about
making like a shitty champagne, but it comes in little
bottles where you get to pop the cork every time.
So it's like a fun thing where like you have
these little bottles and you pop your corks that your
friends like all the time, and then you can put
the core back in then pop it again. Yeah, or
you just drinking and then open the next one and
(19:36):
shoot at your brand at the beer pong table or something.
You know. Yeah, that's another idea. I thought I could
go up someone else, go do it, go do it
well and hit me up for that mimosa one though,
that's yeah good, yeah yeah yeah yeah that and that one.
I feel it's more work on that ship. There we go,
There we go. Yeah, I want to do it like
a liquor or like some sort of alcohol in a can,
(19:57):
and it's called sauce. Sauce. Yeah, yeah, because I'm on
the sauce again. Well, what I'm trying to go? What
would it be? Something I instantly thought about four loco
when you said that. Yeah, okay, So so maybe we
go somewhere somewhere a little bit less ratchet, but still
in the ratchet realm. No one has done like a
canned rum and coke. You know, that could be sauce.
(20:17):
Why don't you do um canned gravy? Like gravy? But
gray sounds gnarly. I mean, I've I've I've I've tried
some gross drinks, but yeah, that sounds pretty rough. So
we've talked a lot about why age is just a number,
but has there ever been like a scenario for you
where the age difference has caused an issue? So this
(20:39):
girl who who who broke up with me not that
long ago, the one that that you met on FaceTime.
When we first met, I was twenty one and she
was eighteen, and like I had never I hadn't really
had like dated a girl younger than me before that.
I remember when I was in like in high school
and I was sixteen, I did a girl that was
twenty one, and I thought I was so sick. I
was like, that is sick. Yeah, it was sick, dude.
(21:02):
I guess that's not illegal, So I don't need to
say your names or any more details. But that was
I thought I was dope, but no, so I didd
a girl I was younger than me, and in the
earlier parts of our relationship, like she was the last
mature I'm gonna do all this stuff like it was
dumbe because I like this type of personality. But she
would like bitch out people at parties or like she
would just like go over the top and like public situations,
(21:25):
do this stuff like making things uncomfortable and not really
like worrying about whether people like are trying to be
like comfortable and enjoy themselves. She's like just making a
scene like whatever, like for the right reasons. But if
there's a lot of like little like immaturity things and
like arguing over like dumb stuff, I think part of
the reason why we ended up breaking up is because
like she really grew up and like just graduated college
(21:45):
is like going to like applying to law schools and stuff,
and I am now the immature one even though I'm
twenty four. One thing was like her mom like caught
me like drinking some wine at like ten in the morning,
and then I was like, that's to the random ass connect,
But she brought that up there day, you know, just
be partying too much or like traveling and doing crazy things.
That's not even really a maturity thing though, because I
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feel like it's also just a lifestyle thing. It's not
like they don't go hand in hand. It's like because
I'm the same way, Like I'm still immature because I
make stupid decisions, but it's also just because like I
just like doing that, you know what I'm saying, Like
I like tanking on it Tuesday, and that's my almost
thirty and I was still like drinking getting drunk on
Tuesday night. You totally And that's the way that's why
I look at it too. It's like that's that's just
(22:28):
my lifestyle, and I think it's I think it's great.
I'll probably doing that when a lot older. But um,
I remember like just in our sort of like discussions,
it was like she kept bringing up like the maturity
thing and I was like, yeah, well, yeah, you are
like going to uh law school and stuff, and I
was but I was thinking about your earlier in our
relationship and be like we'd like go to a party
or something and she's like pulled me to the bathroom,
were like hook up like in like just like this
(22:49):
really savage like younger person stuff, and like yeah, and
I've noticed like when in relationships when people are older,
it's like you know that was complaining about how they're
like not having sex enough, and it was like like
we would just go crazy any time we possibly could.
And it was like and now it's like, oh, she's
like later know his relationship would be like I'd be like, oh,
(23:10):
like I don't know, I gotta be trying so hard
to like get get it, you know what I'm saying. Um,
some people like private, yeah, and she's like no, yeah,
we're like alone investing now, Like I'm full it's like
it's like it's happening. No. Yeah, it's like this particular
girlfriend just matured really fast and I kind of just
stayed the same. Not saying I'm immature, but uh I
(23:32):
think I think emotionally I'm matured a lot. But but
like you said, I mean, I still have the same lifestyle,
which isn't necessarily immature. But at the same time, I
kind of wish I did ship earlier. Like I I
spent a lot of time partying when I was like
twenty four, Like when I first moved to l A,
like that year. You know, it's like you're in l
A and it's sucking. Oh wait, you got somebody to
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what the fun. It's like I'm watching Entourage. It's like
I'm in on rug. Listen. Women who date much older
men are said to have daddy issues. Do you think
you have any mommy issues? Interesting? Uh no, dude, my
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mom is my best friend. I got lucky, really dope
parents haven't haven't really ever had daddy your mommy issues?
But no, my mom is my best friend, and like
she knows that I've like been with women that are
like close to her age, and she's like, she thinks
it's funny. She's cool that she's like she's had like
sort of like co workers that have like kind of
come on to me, and she's like it's all good,
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like we're all friends. You're like, it's yeah. But she's
also a very very like open and cool mom to
like she parties with me and all my friends. So
I'm not saying that you guys should pursue your parents,
co workers or anything. You should suck your favorite porn
star and your mom's and your mom's massage therapist. Yeah. Yes,
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if someone's getting bullied, sucked her mom, man fu your
mom's massage therapist as well. That's what we're learning. That's
what people are learning from this. It's really this is
an inspiring episode. Yeah. Yeah, listen, we're gonna take a
quick break and then we're gonna come back and we're
gonna try and fix the advice or we're gonna try
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We're back, and I gotta ask you, do you think
that age is just a number? Given all the things
that we've said today, Now that I think back on it,
I mean, age ag is just a number. Yes, I
think that there are amazing things to come out of
different ages interacting colliding i'd say long or big age
guy relationships and uh, whether it's like a mentor or
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a sexual partner's totally fine. And I think you've learned
from people like that. But there's also the other side
of like people mature at different ages. Yeah, And I mean,
let me just say, I think it's it's somewhat similar
to like a bathroom accident. You know what I'm saying.
Uh No, well I'm saying I'm saying. I'm saying, let
me explain this. There's a huge difference, you know, one
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and a two. What do I mean by that? Well,
for example, if you piss yourself a little bit at Coachella,
just a just a wee bit, you can keep on dancing,
you know what I'm saying, because everyone smells like piss
there anyways, and you can kind of just play it off.
But if you ship your dunger ease, then you kind
of got to get the funk out of there, because
then you're gonna start freaking everyone out in the dew lap,
(28:52):
you know what I'm saying. Okay, I thought you're gonna
say something about how like people that are over a
certain age and under certain age shipped themselves and piss themselves,
which also it's like a double one ton. Uh So, yeah, okay,
there's a limit to it. Absolutely. We were discussing earlier
how there's a negative side of social media and kind
of exposing these young ass people to sexual stuff which
is weird and like drugs. So I think that age
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is not just a number when you have ten year
olds banging each other. Yeah, and also you mentioned drugs. Dude,
there's like some weird shot on TikTok. You ever get
You ever scrolled down TikTok and all of a sudden,
it's like you land on one of a guy just
like doing math or something. Really that happens on TikTok. No,
I'm not, I'm not well versed in TikTok. That is yeah, yeah,
it's yeah. I thought that was more of like an
(29:35):
omigal thing, but I guess, I guess, I guess TikTok
to everything moves on. Let's say TikTok is the new omigal.
What's the what's the worst advice you've ever received? You know,
I've I've tried to think about this. I mean, uh,
(29:57):
come come back to what's the worst advice you've ever received?
How about how about you're flipping it on me? Yeah?
I mean I was trying to think about this, and
I was like, well, every piece of advice I try
to think of that was that was like negative had
a good side to it too. You know. It took
me like what people saying, you've got to go to
college and you've got you gotta like do all like
(30:18):
like parents who need their kids to go to a
really good college and grind so hard where it's like
I have friends that didn't go to college and doing amazing. Now,
that was one where I was like, all right, well,
if I didn't go to college, I wouldn't have this,
But I also like, whatever could have done this other
things like like using drugs and whatever. Like there's like
I've had phase where I use a lot of drugs
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and had ups and downs where it's like I really
got to enjoy myself in certain ways and learn new things,
but also have had like addiction problems like a while
ago too. So it's like there's I felt like some
people who never do drugs could have the downsides of
them missing everence, experiencing how fucking fun it is. Yeah. Yeah,
(31:02):
So so I tried to think of like something deep
and serious, and those are the ones that came to mind,
And uh, I don't have a direct yeah answer, whether
it's it's the best of the worst advice I've received,
I think those are great, though personally I think those
are great. I also it's like one of the hardest
questions there. This is like reporter doing an article on me,
I guess and I told him about this podcast and
he told him that I was asking people these questions
(31:23):
and he was like, okay, so what's the worst piece
of advice you've ever received? And I was like, I'm
have to get I'm to get back to you on that.
I'll try to flip it on you too. Have you
have you come up with anything yet, maybe like if
you wing it, you'll be fine. Yeah. I think that's
that's that's more negative than than positive because I've had
the same thing where ye trying to win something and
but you have to though sometimes you have to just
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jump in the DEEPO. That's how you learned it prepared
for everything in life. It's just never gonna happen, you
know what I'm saying. Then you'll never progress, you'll never
make any decisions because you'll But at the same time,
it's like for performing and stuff like that, like you
probably should be ready, you probably shouldn't. Just if people
are depending on you to warm then you probably shouldn't
just wing it. Yeah, yeah, like giving it a little
practice or kind of because that's what my earliest shows.
(32:06):
I would like I knew that I was very h
charismatic when I was drunk, but I also was like,
I don't like to have a show that's like all structured.
So I would like go into my early shows just
intoxicated and not have a direct set list, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
let's just play this one. I would just like find
like videos of me just talking about just some random
(32:27):
ass ship for five minutes, like for no reason. I
show where people are into it because if they're a
big fan, they love to hear me like just interact
erectly with them. But it's also like people see that
and like, dude, why you aren't even performing right now?
You know? So so there were positive to winging it.
I learned a lot about performing. I learned a lot
about like, uh, doing things, doing things impromptu or off
the dome, and like the negatives have been too drunk
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on stage all that stuff. So so I think anytime
that you win it, you'll learn something. And I think,
never never be afraid to take take risks because I've
always been people always look to me. And when I
was like in high school and college and all throughout
my whole life looked at me. Is like kind of
like this crazy kid because I would take all these
risks and try all these things and get hurt and
like go on these trips and like for no reason
(33:11):
or whatever. And then finally it was like, yeah, I
took this huge risk of like trying to pursue a
career on the internet and like potentially like say all
this dumb ship and then maybe ruin my like normal
like business career. Everyone knows me is like rapping about
eating ass and fucking moms or whatever. I'm not going
to get a job at at Google now or whatever.
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But then like taking some of these risks like starting
a go cart or golf cart, pizza company and all
this stuff is like taught me so much and I
wouldn't be, you know, he as happy with my career
now if I hadn't taken like all these big like
leaps of faith into trying something that I loved. Those
really insightful I feel like people are actually gonna be
like really inspired by that, because I totally agree. It's
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the same way I've lived my life up to this point.
I just tried as many things as I possibly could,
and it's like, yeah, whatever, it sticks, sticks, and then
you just keep keep going, you know totally. Yeah, I
think I tried every sport, didn't like any of them
until I started competitively free skiing, like tricks and stuff,
and then that was dope. Took the risk, loved it,
and then I broke a bunch of ribs. Took that
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l But then I also like learned like I don't know,
I just I feel like trying everything. I was all right, well,
this is my favorite type of sports and my favorit
type of people that I met through this, you know everything.
I think just trying everything is better than sticking with
what your parents liked or whatever. Yeah, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep doing that until I'm eighty, because age
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it's just a number. Yes, Yeah, dude, what's the best
advice anyone has ever given you? Well, now I feel
really good about the advice that I just gave to
the to the audience, So it's hard for me to
feel like that was pretty good. Yeah, I felt good
as I was saying it to us. Best best advice, man,
(34:57):
I don't know if I call exactly advice, but like
I had a good friend that I met who who
went to treatment for this was like in high school,
still a really good friend of mine. But he went
the treatment for cocaine um and he said he met
someone there who had been through all this ship and
they said, like they were granted a lot of things
they did in their life, but they also loved a
lot of these things that they had experienced. And they
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said that, like, always keep in mind that you could
get hit by a car tomorrow and die. And that's
one thing that I think has like led to some
of my best experiences. When I'm like, maybe I should
go do this, or maybe I should just like stay
home and like watch a movie, or maybe I should
do whatever, Like maybe I should go to Miami and
go like meet people experience all the stuff, like oh,
(35:40):
or I could just stay home and like make music
by myself or like whatever. Like working on whatever it
is now is always a good thing, but keep in
mind that, like something could always happen, and saving money
versus like spending on a good time, like always keep
in mind that like you might not experience it. Yeah,
I feel like talking about this is a little bit
tough because it's like some people like to just watch movies.
(36:02):
Some people like like it's hard to judge what really
is bringing in more value at the time, right. But
one of my friends has always said, like, if if
we were if we were sitting there, you know, when
we were twenty four, had no money, just got back
from backpacking around the world, and he's like, he's like,
and you know, we're stressing about ship and I'm like,
I don't. We don't have enough money to do this,
and how are we gonna scrape together the cash? He's like,
(36:24):
in eighty years, what are we gonna remember the fact
that we stayed home and didn't try to make this happen,
or the fact that we fucking did it? And I
was like, that's you gotta just judge things on whether
or not you're gonna remember them in eighty years. Yeah,
that's that's another really good one too. Yeah, whether you
remember it, let me ask you one more question before
we go. What's the craziest story you have from tour?
Hook up story or not or whatever, it doesn't matter.
(36:46):
What was the craziest story. So so I sort of
just had three come in mind. One time, there was
these two best friends that came to the show, and like,
I don't know how it end up getting set up
this way, but I ended up hooking up with these
two girls one of the few times had like a
more than two person interaction. And then I found out
that they were co workers and that one of them
is like it was like forty seven and one of
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them was twenty one. And I was like, you guys
are best friends that worked together and we all just
did this thing and you'll have a twenty seven year
difference in your Did they work with your mom? Ah? Man,
this wasn't I don't know, it was one of them.
It was one of them West Coast. It was always
in Washington State. You know, people have just built different
(37:30):
out there. Wow. Yeah, that was an interesting one. So
was that weird? Was there like a It wasn't like
power dynamic or something between the older woman and the
younger woman. I thought it was the thing. It was
like even it was like it was like, yeah, you
have experience, and you're and you've you've been on the block,
and it's like you are like whatever, Like you you
just blossomed, You're doing your thing. It's like they they
(37:52):
had chemistry. Maybe they've done it before. I don't know,
but it was I can't believe you're just bringing this
up now. This is like the perfect study for this
entire thing. See it came yah, know it came to
mind at the very end. Uh it was. That was
an interesting one. I don't want to go into too
much more detail, but I like the sort of bringing
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out the positive negative and everything. And in Belgium, I
got robbed and my DJ had given me all of
his like cards and everything. So my wallet got stolen
in this like really smooth way and I have a
video of it because literally was filming me and I
was parting with all these Algeria I had just won
some soccer game and I was like partying, like cheering
with these like Algerian dudes, and you like see them
like going through my pockets and like grabbing things out.
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I actually I caught a dude taking my phone and
I grabbed it back. But like I could have ended
up with no phone, passport and all this ship in Belgium,
and like we ended up having to like like spend
two days in Europe without any money. And like when
I like I went back to drinking my wall back,
I saw like six wallets lay on the ground. They
had already stolen. People there like running this little circle.
I'm like Damn, this is kind of dark that like
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this is like so easy for them to do, and
like I don't know so so that that's my my
story about like the dark side of things. And we
we were fine. We got back. We didn't get our
passport stone much was the real wind that would have sucked,
so that all worked out fine. We didn't get like
beat up or mugged. It was just like it was
just like a theft. Oh yeah. This is probably my
(39:16):
favorite and craziest. During my meet and greet, these like
a really cute couple were like taking their picture and
then the dude is like, he looks so good in
these photos. And then she like walks up to get
her phone for me, and I like hand it back,
and then like he gets on one kneees, like but
he looks so much better in this, and he pulls
out like a ring and proposes to her. Right, it's
just a three of us together, and I felt so
special to be like sharing this moment with them, and
(39:36):
then they had of me their wedding. Didn't feel like awkward, No, dude,
it was cute. I was like I was like I
had like some tears of joy coup. I was like whoa,
no way, like holy shit. And then and then I
didn't make it to the wedding because I missed my flight.
But so that's the sad part. But yeah, but that
was really dope that I think Craig just using the
(39:57):
word crazy, I think that I'd consider that the most crazy. Well,
the the coworker thing is pretty crazy too, but that's
a really heartwarming story. I wanted to end with that one.
I wonder if they're still together. They are. They are,
I can confirm. So you guys are like friends now yeah, okay, okay,
can I tell you one of mine that's relevant to this?
(40:18):
This is just random, Okay. We had a we had
a woman in Texas come up to us at a
meet and great and she was, you know, like wearing
very revealing clothing, dumping them out pretty much. She had
a lot of makeup on, right, and she's very done
up here sings tats. She comes up and she gives
(40:38):
us a DVD. She's like, I love you, guys, here's
a gift. And I look at the DVD cover and
it's called Big Busty MILFs five and there's a woman
on it on the front of it getting fucked. It's
like hardcore porn, right, And she points in and she goes,
that's me. I'm a big, busty milf. I mean, first
time in my life that I've ever been that I've
ever like had someone in front of me clothed and
(41:00):
then they placed an image in front of me of
them getting fucked. You know what I'm saying. It's like
it was the weirdest experience. And then after the show,
she was like hanging around. Our tour manager was like, yeah,
she's still down there. She's like by the merch table
or whatever, and she said, if you guys want to
hang out, she's totally down. We're like, I don't think.
I don't know, man, I don't think our appreciate that, alright, dude.
(41:26):
And on that note, I think we closed the case
on this one. I appreciate you being here helping me
dissect this piece of advice. Yeah. I think I think
this was the most like mentally engaging podcasts or interview
I've ever done. Man. Like, we we thought of business ideas,
we had some inspirational quotes in here, some kind of
dark stories. We did. This felt like it felt like
(41:48):
a fucking Joe Rogan episode. Yeah yeah, half that half
heart to heart dude, this was this was, it was beautiful.
I agree, man, Thanks so much for joining me. Everyone,
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I try to remember the exam one got bullied less
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trouble with life, We'll let me give you some of fun. Hey,
what's up. I'm Cody co and welcome to the Pleasure
Is Ours, the podcast in which we examine some of
the worst advice people hear their whole lives and try
(01:24):
to make it better. They say, age is just a number.
But while the thought of a one year old lady
finally getting her g e d Is just heartwarming, you
wouldn't let that same lady drive to the supermarket for
a gallon of milk out of fear that she might
commit vehicular manslaughter. On the opposite end of the spectrum,
we all love a good story about a two year
old that can identify every country on the globe, or
(01:47):
yodel really well in a Walmart or something. Right, those
kids always end up flexing for ellen. But you also
wouldn't let that same toddler drive to the supermarket for
a gallon of milk out of fear that he would
commit vehicular manslaughter. So let's dissect this phrase, age is
just a number, and to help me do that today,
I'm joined by a very special guest. He's a platinum
certified rapper, singer, songwriter, and producer. His mom knows him
(02:08):
as Matthew and you all know him as the one
the only young Gravy. Welcome to the show, Gravy, thanks
so much for being here, beautiful, beautiful, thanks for Yeah.
I was fun and I'm in Atlanta, which is one
of my favorite places. So why are you in Atlanta? Uh?
Friend's birthday and studio time. Go to studio Sunny Digital tonight,
which I'm excited for, and then friend's birthday on Friday Saturday.
Do you just release an album? And aren't you like,
(02:31):
shouldn't you be like taking time off, taking a couple
of days off? Yeah, but I'm saying, like you finished
an album, doesn't doesn't that make you want to take
like two months off or you just always working on
music no matter what. Yeah, it's not really, it's not
really like I like making music and stuff and uh,
yeah it's not really. I wouldn't consider that work. But yeah,
during like the peak of COVID, I got real bad
(02:51):
Captain Fever back in Minnesota. I took a trip out
to Montana and like just did all this like mindless
outdoorsy stuff and like no one listens to rap there
to listen to like Macdamarco the whole time. Oh man,
that was what I needed, so I did. Montana is
like one of the best places ever, isn't it. Yeah?
Beautiful beautiful. I mean my first experience there was on probation,
and that part was that's that's a whole long story.
(03:13):
But but no, no, I want to hear that. Okay, well,
well maybe I haven't told your story super So. I
actually got put on probation in Georgia because of like
this thing when I was eighteen I was in the
wrong place, wrong time with this like house party and
these like real kind of backwards cops up in northern
part of Georgia where like a lake house. If you
(03:34):
all have seen Deliverance, someone seem deliverance that's listening to this.
It was like where that takes place. Yeah, wrong place
a long time. Got charged with like a bunch of
felonies for being like burglary and all this stuff. I'm
at a party because because the mom didn't know that
the kid was the namous party. I guess, So how
does it end up in burglary? Two counts of burglary
because we entered the house and then left and then
try to get back in to get like our keys
(03:56):
and stuff so we could leave, and that was another
kind of burglary. I guess it's these cops want to
pull out anything they charged. They found. They found like
two pills and charged like eight people with felonies for
drug consumption or whatever. Anyways, I want to I moved
to Montana and did two or forty hours of probation
in Bozeman, but like every day I get off like
(04:16):
ten hours work and all the room mention like, yo,
it's going to hike because it's like like go hike
for like five hours. Afterwards it was it was real intense.
You can't really get in trouble going on a hike,
you know. Yeah, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah. And
I also wanted to get away from my like Minnesota
friends that were worst influences on me. Yeah. I moved
out to Bozeman and it was beautiful. And then I
went back to visit those friends and during COVID and
(04:39):
and it was it was beautiful. Hello, I love it
out there. Yeah, man, it's the fucking it's the best.
How's the album doing good? I actually I have a
thing where I don't look at stats of anything because
it's stressed me out. And it's like if I did
my best then if I mean, if I worked as
hard as I could, then like I should be had
with it, you know, Like I don't like checking up
(05:00):
stats all the time. That's so true. It's like reading
comments the same thing. Yeah, I just do what you
gotta do, perform and then let it out. I mean
I say that, but I'm such a hypocrite because I'm
like the biggest, like look at every fucking number everything, okay, okay,
box my head. I get so stressed. Yeah, I like,
like you know, Alex maybe the money he does that
like over the topic, looks at everything and he like
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asked every time I dropped from you know, how's it doing?
How many you use it again? How many of us
in my video get I might do Like I don't know,
I feel way better in my like, my mindset is
just better when I don't look at that stuff. I
have like an offelfa thing going on, and I keep
on like you've got some flow, man, me and you
both do. We got the I had so much hair
like a week ago. I don't know if you saw
me in like my full like it was like grant
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and it was kind of like like a grandmo with
a perm too, because I have like like long curls,
but like I cut it recently, so I'm like trying
to like get back in action. Speaking of Grandma's, that's
a great fucking segue. There we go. Yeah, serve that
up for me. Holy hell, you know, I've been I've
been planning it out for last two minutes. Speaking of Grandma's,
you're known to go for older women. It's like a
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meme with you at this point, right, Yeah, I mean
you're you're a mill connoisseur. Yeah, It's it's almost a
meme now because like I was into that and everyone
was like, oh, he's joking, but that was kind of
my thing, and I was into that, and and then
I like like ended up like with a few different
mills and and just women a lot older than me.
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It's a meme now because then like I kind of
got over that phase and now I'm like just messing
with girls my age or women that are that are
very close to my age. The milk thing isn't really
that huge for me anymore, but I still still rap
about it, so yeah, i'd call it. Wait are you
are you like single right now? Do you have a
I am? I am single right now? Um. I had
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uh girlfriend that was on and off for like the
last like two or three years. I think you met
No, no no, no, just I think I just like FaceTime
because she was obsessed with your girlfriend. She was obsessed
with your girlfriend and like and you and all your endeavors. Yeah,
she's is cool. But where it we're Yeah, I'm like
a finally like single now, like single single, Um, shout
out right. No, you know. It's hilarious about that. As
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people will ask me the oldest woman that I've been with,
and at the Wobbles woman I was with was was
forty seven. That's like like forty really, yes, you gotta
let me know. The thing with Brandy Love was that
a joke? Was that real? Because I remember when I
was like, holy fuck? Yeah. So you know, as a
fan of her work, yeah yeah, yeah, I think I
think everyone could could. It's hard to not be a
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fan of Brandy Love. Um no, I so that video happened.
I shout at her out in this song when I
wrote it, and then because I was shoting on other milks,
you know, it's it's it's part of it's part of
the combo. Um. So some some of my favorite milks.
So I think, ever won't agree with Sophia Vergara Alasta girl,
um mrs incredible Brandy Love. I remember who else I
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shot it out in that song, but yeah, so I
was shouting out a few of the favorites. And then
when I get to the video shoot. I mean, I
had some good porn star friends who would just like
be in my videos, but they're not milk point stars.
They surprised me bringing through Brandy Love. Like here she
is like, oh my god. She was super excited to
do the video. And then I jokingly proposed her at
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the at the thing and we're like, oh yeah, let's
make it a thing. So then we both like just
like posted about how we're getting married, even though he didn't,
so I wasn't playing actually get married. Yeah we didn't
get married, Yeah, but we should have been an interesting wedding.
It's funny you said forty seven earlier. She is the
oldest woman that I've hooked up with and she was
forty seven at the time. Oh you did up? Yeah, yeah,
(08:38):
not married, but yeah we did. We knocked boots. Yes,
that's fantastic. Yeah. And I figured out recently that's very uh,
aggressively right wing. I discovered, like I don't go on
Instagram much of it. I opened it up and saw that,
and I was like, oh, well, god, we didn't get married.
She's yeah. Yeah, so it's not a huge bragging point. Well,
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I was gonna ask, like, you know, is she was?
She way better? But like because she's older, right, but
and he's not fair because she's a fucking porn star. Yeah, exactly.
She knows what she's doing. Yeah, but in your experience
older women, like are they better? You know? I'm I
think overall totally totally, But like I think it's a
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good thing and a bad thing. What I'm about to say,
uh that like sexual whatever is like introducing people younger
and younger all the time, and like it makes me
uncomfortable with thinking, Like, Yo, there's this song called Wet
Ass Pussy that like eleven year olds are singing right now,
you know, like that it makes me uncomfortable. But what
my point was gonna be uh is that like since
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people are like younger and younger sing all this stuff.
I mean I remember like probably like fourteen or fifteen.
Age fourteen or fifteen is when like people were like
losing their V cards for for my generation, I hope
that's not getting lower because that that's my fear, is
like I'm gonna have kids and they're gonna be like
doing it at like eleven. But I mean, imagine just
even knowing what what wapp stood for at eleven years old,
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I didn't know. Yeah, dude, I was so what was that?
What were you doing when you were ten or eleven?
I don't even know what grade that is, but I
know that we weren't bumping anything, we weren't talking, we
weren't talking about the back of my throat or whatever.
But it wasn't on the topic of the conversation, no,
I got. I mean, it's probably just because yeah, you know,
you learned about this stuff earlier, and it's like that's
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all fueled by TikTok and Instagram and everything. Yeah yeah.
And also people are like just more comfortable yeah yeah,
which which was that part? I think is cool? The
amount of people that I went to college with that
hadn't lost opportuinities by college. I feel like now that
number is probably is way, it's different. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
my whole my whole point was was I guess I'm
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thinking back on it, probably the reason why younger women
that I flicked up with our experiences probably because it's
been like on tour and they're just their tour, you know.
Maybe they're groupies and that's that's where they they learned.
I don't know, I don't know if they hooked up
with the suicide was before me. Maybe they're on their
freaky ship and that's yeah, oh yeah, who knows how
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they fuck? Have you ever hooked up with a woman
with kids? Yes, Brandy Love has kids. She does, She
does have two kids. And actually her daughter d mned
me and was like there was something about how people
keep on bringing up that, like you hooked up with
my mom and stuffing, And then I was like I
brought her to a show and like did like a
meet and greet and all this stuff and basically looked
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at it was like people were like kind of like
had been giving her ship throughout her whole like high
school career about how her mom's porn star. Oh yeah,
which I was like, yeah, that might suck. But then
I don't bring her on stage. What did I I
don't know. I did something where like she told she
hit me up later and she's like, yo, like I'm
getting a lot more love now at high school, at
my school, and like it's less hate. So that made
me feel good. I was like, because that would be
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a really weird thing to grow up with. Is if
your parents are if your mom is getting Wait, so
you're telling me that that you curbed bullying because you
slept with someone's mom. That's so fucking opposite. It was.
I mean, okay, I try to remember the exactly bullied
last because you sucked her mom, that's amazing. Yeah, it was.
(12:15):
It was just like it was like her friends were
fans of my music. I'm sure that her friends were
fans of my work and her mom's work. But uh
but because of yeah, because of me being acted to
her mom, I guess that they they took it easy
on her and she was more of like she was
cooler because that apparently, man, that's that's wild to be.
(12:38):
I think they have kids in high school and still
be like a working actress and just the way you
just put it back to me, the way you just
explain it, you know, that's that's hilarious. But yeah, you're like, man,
I just you know, I just did what I could
for her. You know, I just mad that she was
getting bullied, so I had to take one for the
team and fuck her. Mom. Oh okay, I'm gonna I'm
(13:05):
gonna read you. I'm gonna read you some lyrics that
you wrote. Oh god, all right, all right. I just
thought it was beautiful. I went to the store for
some chocolate flavored milk, came home with a thick, chocolate
colored milk. All she wanted was a little gravy train
for Christmas. She was purely interested in giving me the business.
What song is that from? Yeah, yeah, that's that is beautiful?
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Uh from this song? Yeah yeah, that's a song called Cheryl.
It was one of my one of my bigger, one
of my bigger records out there. I think it was
actually pretty damn close to going gold. And then, uh,
this is something that I released before signing or anything before.
I had to like clear samples, so it has the
baby comeback sample the player and they they finally caught
(13:52):
up to me and took it down. Nothing that's like
really still at d m s every day, like ye
know where Cheryl on Spotify and all that. But but hey,
but hey, we're I'm discussing with the band about potentially
getting it back up and you know, like all all
the sample issues I end up having, like George Michael's Estate,
I had a song with the George Michael sample, Perry
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Como a few other ones. They usually are super anti.
They're always like instant denial because of my lyrics and
hip hop in general, because they're all a bit older
and mid whatever, like their their lives off soul music
or or do op or whatever it is. So the
usually we're against it, but it's it's great to sometimes
here when people are are actually down and into it
(14:33):
and so so now one of the members of Player
is with it. So there's a chance that that will
get Cheryl back so nice and so's all you gotta
do is clear the sample or like agree to pay
them a certain amount of money. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
and samples like a ton in your early music. Yeah totally.
How did you even start sampling? Like how did you
realize you sounded good over those beats and then like
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how many issues did you run into later when the
music started getting popular. So that was always my just
like I mean, my favorite type of hip hop was
like sampled stuff. Um, I was always a huge fan
of like the early Kanye stuff. Action Bronson is one
of my favorite rappers. Currency they all use like a
lot of those samples in their music. But but even
before that, I mean, I've been a huge fan of soul,
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funk and all this music from like sixties through eighties
is like some of my favorites will listen to. I
still like listen to that more than hip hop usually.
So I knew that when I started making music that
like that was gonna be primarily my style was like
this kind of hip hop that samples soul doesn't usually
have trap drums like real like aggressive, hard hitting music.
So I was like, I'm gonna bring this sound out
(15:38):
and see people think of it. I mean, now it's
more common, partly because of me, I think, uh inspiring
some of these other artists that have now gotten bigger,
but also just people realize it's a dope sound. Most
of the samples. I was worried about it. Now I've
now been taken down, So yeah, it did will come back.
For all the rappers out there that are thinking about it,
it probably will come back eventually. But well, I mean,
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this is what this is are my men is like
when you're an independent artist just trying to grow and
like develop a sound and makes up I feel like
that's totally fine. Obviously you're like a huge artist and
you use a sample no clear it, Like that's kind
of sucked up. You're just gonna make tons of money
right away. That's probably funny. But yeah, in the beginning,
like really, yeah, I've and I've had so many artists
asked me about it, like the same question, like what's
(16:20):
the sample clearance situation? Like, and like dude, like for real,
I've I've some of these songs have been out for
three or four years, and I like, help me grow
so much and didn't have I didn't have any issues
with them until now. And if you're okay with like
losing the money on it, like I was, like, it's
totally worth it. You started music in college? Yes, uh one,
so three years ago. I'm older, right, I'm almost thirty.
(16:43):
I'm still trying to fucking word. I'm still trying to
do new ship all the time. Do you do you
ever feel like it's it's too late to reinvent yourself
career wise. You think there's like a point where it's
just too late, Like thirty, I feel like stop trying,
you know, dirty, And I'm like, oh, maybe I should
pick this up. I'm gonna be like, no, you're here's
a three in front of your fucking You're not gonna learn.
(17:03):
An brain is done, no new synapses firing, there's nothing
new developing up their stop. I always thought like, I mean,
I've changed my sort of plans so many times, Like
I started college as a physics major, hated it, switched
to psychology, loved it. But I was like, Okay, I
gotta do like something else, like so I gonna make money,
(17:25):
which I realized now didn't really matter. If you're just
like major, don't worry about it, Go go and do
it because that's just interesting. And I learned a lot
from it. I sawed all these different things, and then
I wanted to be a pilot for a while. Then
I find out I had a stigmatism. Didn't do that
because I wanted to travel for work, which I got
lucky you now, I have a career record to travel
a lot. I want to be a pilot all this stuff.
I started a few businesses in college. I sort of
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basically like my friend and I like bought this electric
sort of kind of like a go kart thing but
has like a super long like back to it. It's
electric thing that goes thirty miles per hour. We would
hire people to sell pizza to two drunk kids around
the college campus. Babba Slice called the Pizza Roller, and
that was like like one of my main sort of
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things I was working on at the same time as rap.
So I've I've always tried to like I mean, I
always want to be entrepreneur, and I worked at like
a startup ac celebrator all this different. I just feel
like I've changed my game plan so many times. I
plan like once I get sick a rap to like
what's next, I'm really in a film, either like directing
movies or something, directing something something that Brandy Love might start. Yeah, dude, Yeah,
(18:32):
when you when in a bridge the drama with with
drama film with with pornography, dude, I think I think
you still gotta bring that. Also, I mean I've had
so many ideas for like alcoholic beverages that then came
out later, like like the White Claw and the past
coffee mixers. I had both those ideas like in college,
(18:53):
and I was I just didn't have the resources for him.
So what do you got now any anything? So, uh,
you know, I'll just like them because someone's gonna have
them anyways. I'm thinking to two ideas I have right now.
Is is mimosas in cans branded towards college age women. Fuck,
that's good. And it's a little classy kind of like
a sand Pello greeno. But and and it's and it's
(19:15):
it's it's relatively healthy because it has real juice in it. Yeah,
so that's one of them. And then I thought about
making like a shitty champagne, but it comes in little
bottles where you get to pop the cork every time.
So it's like a fun thing where like you have
these little bottles and you pop your corks that your
friends like all the time, and then you can put
the core back in then pop it again. Yeah, or
you just drinking and then open the next one and
(19:36):
shoot at your brand at the beer pong table or something.
You know. Yeah, that's another idea. I thought I could
go up someone else, go do it, go do it
well and hit me up for that mimosa one though,
that's yeah good, yeah yeah yeah yeah that and that one.
I feel it's more work on that ship. There we go,
There we go. Yeah, I want to do it like
a liquor or like some sort of alcohol in a can,
(19:57):
and it's called sauce. Sauce. Yeah, yeah, because I'm on
the sauce again. Well, what I'm trying to go? What
would it be? Something I instantly thought about four loco
when you said that. Yeah, okay, So so maybe we
go somewhere somewhere a little bit less ratchet, but still
in the ratchet realm. No one has done like a
canned rum and coke. You know, that could be sauce.
(20:17):
Why don't you do um canned gravy? Like gravy? But
gray sounds gnarly. I mean, I've I've I've I've tried
some gross drinks, but yeah, that sounds pretty rough. So
we've talked a lot about why age is just a number,
but has there ever been like a scenario for you
where the age difference has caused an issue? So this
(20:39):
girl who who who broke up with me not that
long ago, the one that that you met on FaceTime.
When we first met, I was twenty one and she
was eighteen, and like I had never I hadn't really
had like dated a girl younger than me before that.
I remember when I was in like in high school
and I was sixteen, I did a girl that was
twenty one, and I thought I was so sick. I
was like, that is sick. Yeah, it was sick, dude.
(21:02):
I guess that's not illegal, So I don't need to
say your names or any more details. But that was
I thought I was dope, but no, so I didd
a girl I was younger than me, and in the
earlier parts of our relationship, like she was the last
mature I'm gonna do all this stuff like it was
dumbe because I like this type of personality. But she
would like bitch out people at parties or like she
would just like go over the top and like public situations,
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do this stuff like making things uncomfortable and not really
like worrying about whether people like are trying to be
like comfortable and enjoy themselves. She's like just making a
scene like whatever, like for the right reasons. But if
there's a lot of like little like immaturity things and
like arguing over like dumb stuff, I think part of
the reason why we ended up breaking up is because
like she really grew up and like just graduated college
(21:45):
is like going to like applying to law schools and stuff,
and I am now the immature one even though I'm
twenty four. One thing was like her mom like caught
me like drinking some wine at like ten in the morning,
and then I was like, that's to the random ass connect,
But she brought that up there day, you know, just
be partying too much or like traveling and doing crazy things.
That's not even really a maturity thing though, because I
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feel like it's also just a lifestyle thing. It's not
like they don't go hand in hand. It's like because
I'm the same way, Like I'm still immature because I
make stupid decisions, but it's also just because like I
just like doing that, you know what I'm saying, Like
I like tanking on it Tuesday, and that's my almost
thirty and I was still like drinking getting drunk on
Tuesday night. You totally And that's the way that's why
I look at it too. It's like that's that's just
(22:28):
my lifestyle, and I think it's I think it's great.
I'll probably doing that when a lot older. But um,
I remember like just in our sort of like discussions,
it was like she kept bringing up like the maturity
thing and I was like, yeah, well, yeah, you are
like going to uh law school and stuff, and I
was but I was thinking about your earlier in our
relationship and be like we'd like go to a party
or something and she's like pulled me to the bathroom,
were like hook up like in like just like this
(22:49):
really savage like younger person stuff, and like yeah, and
I've noticed like when in relationships when people are older,
it's like you know that was complaining about how they're
like not having sex enough, and it was like like
we would just go crazy any time we possibly could.
And it was like and now it's like, oh, she's
like later know his relationship would be like I'd be like, oh,
(23:10):
like I don't know, I gotta be trying so hard
to like get get it, you know what I'm saying. Um,
some people like private, yeah, and she's like no, yeah,
we're like alone investing now, Like I'm full it's like
it's like it's happening. No. Yeah, it's like this particular
girlfriend just matured really fast and I kind of just
stayed the same. Not saying I'm immature, but uh I
(23:32):
think I think emotionally I'm matured a lot. But but
like you said, I mean, I still have the same lifestyle,
which isn't necessarily immature. But at the same time, I
kind of wish I did ship earlier. Like I I
spent a lot of time partying when I was like
twenty four, Like when I first moved to l A,
like that year. You know, it's like you're in l
A and it's sucking. Oh wait, you got somebody to
(23:52):
do a thing in the hills. Yeah? Everything? Oh yeah,
what the fun. It's like I'm watching Entourage. It's like
I'm in on rug. Listen. Women who date much older
men are said to have daddy issues. Do you think
you have any mommy issues? Interesting? Uh no, dude, my
(24:14):
mom is my best friend. I got lucky, really dope
parents haven't haven't really ever had daddy your mommy issues?
But no, my mom is my best friend, and like
she knows that I've like been with women that are
like close to her age, and she's like, she thinks
it's funny. She's cool that she's like she's had like
sort of like co workers that have like kind of
come on to me, and she's like it's all good,
(24:35):
like we're all friends. You're like, it's yeah. But she's
also a very very like open and cool mom to
like she parties with me and all my friends. So
I'm not saying that you guys should pursue your parents,
co workers or anything. You should suck your favorite porn
star and your mom's and your mom's massage therapist. Yeah. Yes,
(24:56):
if someone's getting bullied, sucked her mom, man fu your
mom's massage therapist as well. That's what we're learning. That's
what people are learning from this. It's really this is
an inspiring episode. Yeah. Yeah, listen, we're gonna take a
quick break and then we're gonna come back and we're
gonna try and fix the advice or we're gonna try
and talk about it a little bit more, unpack it
(25:17):
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(25:37):
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You're scared, you don't want you want to buy like
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We're back, and I gotta ask you, do you think
that age is just a number? Given all the things
that we've said today, Now that I think back on it,
I mean, age ag is just a number. Yes, I
think that there are amazing things to come out of
different ages interacting colliding i'd say long or big age
guy relationships and uh, whether it's like a mentor or
(28:10):
a sexual partner's totally fine. And I think you've learned
from people like that. But there's also the other side
of like people mature at different ages. Yeah, And I mean,
let me just say, I think it's it's somewhat similar
to like a bathroom accident. You know what I'm saying.
Uh No, well I'm saying I'm saying. I'm saying, let
me explain this. There's a huge difference, you know, one
(28:31):
and a two. What do I mean by that? Well,
for example, if you piss yourself a little bit at Coachella,
just a just a wee bit, you can keep on dancing,
you know what I'm saying, because everyone smells like piss
there anyways, and you can kind of just play it off.
But if you ship your dunger ease, then you kind
of got to get the funk out of there, because
then you're gonna start freaking everyone out in the dew lap,
(28:52):
you know what I'm saying. Okay, I thought you're gonna
say something about how like people that are over a
certain age and under certain age shipped themselves and piss themselves,
which also it's like a double one ton. Uh So, yeah, okay,
there's a limit to it. Absolutely. We were discussing earlier
how there's a negative side of social media and kind
of exposing these young ass people to sexual stuff which
is weird and like drugs. So I think that age
(29:14):
is not just a number when you have ten year
olds banging each other. Yeah, and also you mentioned drugs. Dude,
there's like some weird shot on TikTok. You ever get
You ever scrolled down TikTok and all of a sudden,
it's like you land on one of a guy just
like doing math or something. Really that happens on TikTok. No,
I'm not, I'm not well versed in TikTok. That is yeah, yeah,
it's yeah. I thought that was more of like an
(29:35):
omigal thing, but I guess, I guess, I guess TikTok
to everything moves on. Let's say TikTok is the new omigal.
What's the what's the worst advice you've ever received? You know,
I've I've tried to think about this. I mean, uh,
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come come back to what's the worst advice you've ever received?
How about how about you're flipping it on me? Yeah?
I mean I was trying to think about this, and
I was like, well, every piece of advice I try
to think of that was that was like negative had
a good side to it too. You know. It took
me like what people saying, you've got to go to
college and you've got you gotta like do all like
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like parents who need their kids to go to a
really good college and grind so hard where it's like
I have friends that didn't go to college and doing amazing. Now,
that was one where I was like, all right, well,
if I didn't go to college, I wouldn't have this,
But I also like, whatever could have done this other
things like like using drugs and whatever. Like there's like
I've had phase where I use a lot of drugs
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and had ups and downs where it's like I really
got to enjoy myself in certain ways and learn new things,
but also have had like addiction problems like a while
ago too. So it's like there's I felt like some
people who never do drugs could have the downsides of
them missing everence, experiencing how fucking fun it is. Yeah. Yeah,
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So so I tried to think of like something deep
and serious, and those are the ones that came to mind,
And uh, I don't have a direct yeah answer, whether
it's it's the best of the worst advice I've received,
I think those are great, though personally I think those
are great. I also it's like one of the hardest
questions there. This is like reporter doing an article on me,
I guess and I told him about this podcast and
he told him that I was asking people these questions
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and he was like, okay, so what's the worst piece
of advice you've ever received? And I was like, I'm
have to get I'm to get back to you on that.
I'll try to flip it on you too. Have you
have you come up with anything yet, maybe like if
you wing it, you'll be fine. Yeah. I think that's
that's that's more negative than than positive because I've had
the same thing where ye trying to win something and
but you have to though sometimes you have to just
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jump in the DEEPO. That's how you learned it prepared
for everything in life. It's just never gonna happen, you
know what I'm saying. Then you'll never progress, you'll never
make any decisions because you'll But at the same time,
it's like for performing and stuff like that, like you
probably should be ready, you probably shouldn't. Just if people
are depending on you to warm then you probably shouldn't
just wing it. Yeah, yeah, like giving it a little
practice or kind of because that's what my earliest shows.
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I would like I knew that I was very h
charismatic when I was drunk, but I also was like,
I don't like to have a show that's like all structured.
So I would like go into my early shows just
intoxicated and not have a direct set list, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
let's just play this one. I would just like find
like videos of me just talking about just some random
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ass ship for five minutes, like for no reason. I
show where people are into it because if they're a
big fan, they love to hear me like just interact
erectly with them. But it's also like people see that
and like, dude, why you aren't even performing right now?
You know? So so there were positive to winging it.
I learned a lot about performing. I learned a lot
about like, uh, doing things, doing things impromptu or off
the dome, and like the negatives have been too drunk
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on stage all that stuff. So so I think anytime
that you win it, you'll learn something. And I think,
never never be afraid to take take risks because I've
always been people always look to me. And when I
was like in high school and college and all throughout
my whole life looked at me. Is like kind of
like this crazy kid because I would take all these
risks and try all these things and get hurt and
like go on these trips and like for no reason
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or whatever. And then finally it was like, yeah, I
took this huge risk of like trying to pursue a
career on the internet and like potentially like say all
this dumb ship and then maybe ruin my like normal
like business career. Everyone knows me is like rapping about
eating ass and fucking moms or whatever. I'm not going
to get a job at at Google now or whatever.
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But then like taking some of these risks like starting
a go cart or golf cart, pizza company and all
this stuff is like taught me so much and I
wouldn't be, you know, he as happy with my career
now if I hadn't taken like all these big like
leaps of faith into trying something that I loved. Those
really insightful I feel like people are actually gonna be
like really inspired by that, because I totally agree. It's
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the same way I've lived my life up to this point.
I just tried as many things as I possibly could,
and it's like, yeah, whatever, it sticks, sticks, and then
you just keep keep going, you know totally. Yeah, I
think I tried every sport, didn't like any of them
until I started competitively free skiing, like tricks and stuff,
and then that was dope. Took the risk, loved it,
and then I broke a bunch of ribs. Took that
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l But then I also like learned like I don't know,
I just I feel like trying everything. I was all right, well,
this is my favorite type of sports and my favorit
type of people that I met through this, you know everything.
I think just trying everything is better than sticking with
what your parents liked or whatever. Yeah, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep doing that until I'm eighty, because age
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it's just a number. Yes, Yeah, dude, what's the best
advice anyone has ever given you? Well, now I feel
really good about the advice that I just gave to
the to the audience, So it's hard for me to
feel like that was pretty good. Yeah, I felt good
as I was saying it to us. Best best advice, man,
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I don't know if I call exactly advice, but like
I had a good friend that I met who who
went to treatment for this was like in high school,
still a really good friend of mine. But he went
the treatment for cocaine um and he said he met
someone there who had been through all this ship and
they said, like they were granted a lot of things
they did in their life, but they also loved a
lot of these things that they had experienced. And they
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said that, like, always keep in mind that you could
get hit by a car tomorrow and die. And that's
one thing that I think has like led to some
of my best experiences. When I'm like, maybe I should
go do this, or maybe I should just like stay
home and like watch a movie, or maybe I should
do whatever, Like maybe I should go to Miami and
go like meet people experience all the stuff, like oh,
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or I could just stay home and like make music
by myself or like whatever. Like working on whatever it
is now is always a good thing, but keep in
mind that, like something could always happen, and saving money
versus like spending on a good time, like always keep
in mind that like you might not experience it. Yeah,
I feel like talking about this is a little bit
tough because it's like some people like to just watch movies.
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Some people like like it's hard to judge what really
is bringing in more value at the time, right. But
one of my friends has always said, like, if if
we were if we were sitting there, you know, when
we were twenty four, had no money, just got back
from backpacking around the world, and he's like, he's like,
and you know, we're stressing about ship and I'm like,
I don't. We don't have enough money to do this,
and how are we gonna scrape together the cash? He's like,
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in eighty years, what are we gonna remember the fact
that we stayed home and didn't try to make this happen,
or the fact that we fucking did it? And I
was like, that's you gotta just judge things on whether
or not you're gonna remember them in eighty years. Yeah,
that's that's another really good one too. Yeah, whether you
remember it, let me ask you one more question before
we go. What's the craziest story you have from tour?
Hook up story or not or whatever, it doesn't matter.
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What was the craziest story. So so I sort of
just had three come in mind. One time, there was
these two best friends that came to the show, and like,
I don't know how it end up getting set up
this way, but I ended up hooking up with these
two girls one of the few times had like a
more than two person interaction. And then I found out
that they were co workers and that one of them
is like it was like forty seven and one of
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them was twenty one. And I was like, you guys
are best friends that worked together and we all just
did this thing and you'll have a twenty seven year
difference in your Did they work with your mom? Ah? Man,
this wasn't I don't know, it was one of them.
It was one of them West Coast. It was always
in Washington State. You know, people have just built different
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out there. Wow. Yeah, that was an interesting one. So
was that weird? Was there like a It wasn't like
power dynamic or something between the older woman and the
younger woman. I thought it was the thing. It was
like even it was like it was like, yeah, you
have experience, and you're and you've you've been on the block,
and it's like you are like whatever, Like you you
just blossomed, You're doing your thing. It's like they they
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had chemistry. Maybe they've done it before. I don't know,
but it was I can't believe you're just bringing this
up now. This is like the perfect study for this
entire thing. See it came yah, know it came to
mind at the very end. Uh it was. That was
an interesting one. I don't want to go into too
much more detail, but I like the sort of bringing
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out the positive negative and everything. And in Belgium, I
got robbed and my DJ had given me all of
his like cards and everything. So my wallet got stolen
in this like really smooth way and I have a
video of it because literally was filming me and I
was parting with all these Algeria I had just won
some soccer game and I was like partying, like cheering
with these like Algerian dudes, and you like see them
like going through my pockets and like grabbing things out.
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I actually I caught a dude taking my phone and
I grabbed it back. But like I could have ended
up with no phone, passport and all this ship in Belgium,
and like we ended up having to like like spend
two days in Europe without any money. And like when
I like I went back to drinking my wall back,
I saw like six wallets lay on the ground. They
had already stolen. People there like running this little circle.
I'm like Damn, this is kind of dark that like
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this is like so easy for them to do, and
like I don't know so so that that's my my
story about like the dark side of things. And we
we were fine. We got back. We didn't get our
passport stone much was the real wind that would have sucked,
so that all worked out fine. We didn't get like
beat up or mugged. It was just like it was
just like a theft. Oh yeah. This is probably my
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favorite and craziest. During my meet and greet, these like
a really cute couple were like taking their picture and
then the dude is like, he looks so good in
these photos. And then she like walks up to get
her phone for me, and I like hand it back,
and then like he gets on one kneees, like but
he looks so much better in this, and he pulls
out like a ring and proposes to her. Right, it's
just a three of us together, and I felt so
special to be like sharing this moment with them, and
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then they had of me their wedding. Didn't feel like awkward, No, dude,
it was cute. I was like I was like I
had like some tears of joy coup. I was like whoa,
no way, like holy shit. And then and then I
didn't make it to the wedding because I missed my flight.
But so that's the sad part. But yeah, but that
was really dope that I think Craig just using the
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word crazy, I think that I'd consider that the most crazy. Well,
the the coworker thing is pretty crazy too, but that's
a really heartwarming story. I wanted to end with that one.
I wonder if they're still together. They are. They are,
I can confirm. So you guys are like friends now yeah, okay, okay,
can I tell you one of mine that's relevant to this?
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This is just random, Okay. We had a we had
a woman in Texas come up to us at a
meet and great and she was, you know, like wearing
very revealing clothing, dumping them out pretty much. She had
a lot of makeup on, right, and she's very done
up here sings tats. She comes up and she gives
(40:38):
us a DVD. She's like, I love you, guys, here's
a gift. And I look at the DVD cover and
it's called Big Busty MILFs five and there's a woman
on it on the front of it getting fucked. It's
like hardcore porn, right, And she points in and she goes,
that's me. I'm a big, busty milf. I mean, first
time in my life that I've ever been that I've
ever like had someone in front of me clothed and
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then they placed an image in front of me of
them getting fucked. You know what I'm saying. It's like
it was the weirdest experience. And then after the show,
she was like hanging around. Our tour manager was like, yeah,
she's still down there. She's like by the merch table
or whatever, and she said, if you guys want to
hang out, she's totally down. We're like, I don't think.
I don't know, man, I don't think our appreciate that, alright, dude.
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And on that note, I think we closed the case
on this one. I appreciate you being here helping me
dissect this piece of advice. Yeah. I think I think
this was the most like mentally engaging podcasts or interview
I've ever done. Man. Like, we we thought of business ideas,
we had some inspirational quotes in here, some kind of
dark stories. We did. This felt like it felt like
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a fucking Joe Rogan episode. Yeah yeah, half that half
heart to heart dude, this was this was, it was beautiful.
I agree, man, Thanks so much for joining me. Everyone,
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