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February 28, 2024 13 mins

Hello, Puzzlers! Puzzling with us today: the hosts of "Armchair Expert," Dax Shepard and Monica Padman!

Join host A.J. Jacobs and his guests as they puzzle–and laugh–their way through new spins on old favorites, like anagrams and palindromes, as well as quirky originals such as “Ask Chat GPT” and audio rebuses.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, Puzzlers, Welcome to the Puzzler Podcast the Parachute Game.
At the end of your puzzle Gym class, I am
your host, AJ Jacobs, and I am here with our guests,
the awesome Dax Shepherd and Monica Padman, hosts of Armchair
Expert and so much more. Welcome Dax and.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Monica, thanks for having us a j listen. Your creative
output in creating the games is already monumental and impressive,
but the notion that you have a new intro every
time that is that clever is already giving me tremendous
anxiety of how you're coming up with it. You're gonna
run out right now.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
He's very stressful. Yeah, I spent an hour this morning,
and you're nice to say they're clever. They're not. You know,
I try, but they are. I mean, they started out
making sense like the chaerry on top of your puzzle
ice cream, and now they're just you know, absurdist. Well, anyway,
as many of your fans know, and you have a
lot of them. At the end of your show, Monica

(01:08):
often does a fact checking segment where you correct. Yeah,
and you did it for my segment. I thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I was do you remember if you erred in any way.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I did in the sense that I said I didn't
know something, so you told me. Because the question was
about turkeys and whether turkeys do they come from Turkey?
Why are they? Turkeys are the American and Monica found
a yes, they they are. They are native to America,

(01:40):
and Turkey has no actual turkeys.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's a it's a feather in the cap of all Americans.
Turkey heils from here.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And just so you know, ninety nine point nine percent
of the facts being corrected are ones I get wrong.
So and generally it's just to attack me and not
the guest.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm sorry, but I'm equal opportunity failure. So if you
are going to mess up, I am going to call
you out on it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, it's not going to slide by.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm ready to be fact checked. And in fact, I
may have messed up the fact checking story about you
fact checking me, so we're going to have to fact
check that. But in this game, I am going to
tell you two facts about puzzles, about the history of puzzles,

(02:30):
and you are going to try to figure out which
is true and which is fake. Which is so one
truth in one lie. Are you ready for your first
set of potential truths? Yes, all right, they're all about puzzles.
Option one is the current fastest solving of a Rubik's

(02:51):
cube is three point one seconds. Okay, that's fact one.
Fact two is, if you turn a Rubik's cube randomly
at the rate of one twist per second, it will
take three point one million years to solve on average.
So the three point one seconds or three point one

(03:12):
million years.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
This is a tough ee. Now, my instinct is a
buy that three point one million years number, because I
have tried numerous times to solve one, and I don't
think if you gave me three point one million years,
even spinning it intentionally, I wouldn't get it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And then also have you seen these people do these
pop I mean they're doing it with one hand.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
There.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's insane mind folded.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yes, but exactly blindfolded. And I do think it's a
The younger generation is really on top of like mastering
the Rubik's cube. Now, so I think the first one's true, you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Do, yeah, And I think maybe the second one is
just simply unknoble true. Okay. Our final answer is a
is correct and two is potentially unknoble.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know your Rubik's gibe three one seconds max.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Park done on both it sounds like a boy sounds.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We don't know the name increasingly, I mean is it's
on It's on YouTube if you want to see it.
Is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I wish I had.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And by the way, I never met him, but I
did for my book The Man who pulds the foot record,
because you can solve it with your feet and that's
about sixteen seconds.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Sixteen seconds with the feet, that's a real thumb your
nose at us simpletons that can't even do it with
our hands, Like.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Was that a pun? Were you going with a pun?
Or that was?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, that would have been on accident.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But by the way, if you did the random thing,
it would take one hundred and eleven billion years. No, Yeah,
it's crazy. There are forty three quintillion possible combinations, which
is just un that is, it's not unknowable but unfathomable.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
But also great use of time, you know, So are
there anything of dedicating billions of years of your life too?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's got to be that are people who are solving it,
then they know how to solve it, and then they're
just working on the time, like they like, they know,
they look, there's a trick or a hack.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
There's a system.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
There's a system.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's like like it's like chess. Right, They've they've
watched the many different permutations of moves so many times
that the intuitively and immediately recognize the pattern and know
what the response to that given pattern is. So they
can probably glance at that cube and they go, oh,
it's that pattern. It needs to be spun right left too.
You know, I imagine that cognitively what's happening.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And that's why they can do
it blindfolded because they're allowed to see the cube before
they put on the blink. That would be pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh good, I'm glad you explain that, because I was like,
how would someone do it blindfolded? That's doesn't he make
any sense that colors feel differently? What are we talking?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well a little?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Are you ready for your next factech and challenge?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yes? All right?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
This is why were readers of the Baltimore Sun furious
about the April twenty six, twenty twenty puzzle page. Was
it because a the newspaper printed a crossword puzzle where
the black squares were in the pattern of a satanic pentagram. B.

(06:31):
The newspaper printed a spot the Difference puzzle where the
two images were identical, so they get to find the differences.
But the newspaper accidentally printed the same image, so there
were no differences.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, I want to ask a question to you. I
guess as my partner. Yeah, he said, April twenty six.
When when is April Fool's Day? That's the first. Yes, first,
it's not like they would do the identical pictures as
an April Fools gag. We've passed that twenty five.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But it was an accident. It could have been an accident,
which is why I drove people insane.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Do we know if it's an accident or intentional, Well,
it doesn't matter because.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Then the fake scenario, fake or real scenario. It was
an accident, they did not write.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think it's the pentagram you do.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And can you remind me where we are Boston, Baltimore,
the Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I think it's I think it's the identicals you do. Well,
we're going to have We're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Different like it.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, arguments, someone's going to take the lead right now. Okay,
well that's our final answers.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Monica, I'm sticking the winner.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah. He loves when I win.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
No victory's worth you being in a good mood.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, I'm very proud you went for that one, DX
and and Monica, Yeah, I love that. It's one of
my favorite puzzles of all time.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Just think how many hours were we did where people
were like, where is it? Family members?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh, it's heartbreaking. It is just heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
They should lose their puzzling license over that.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
All right, we have one last fact checking for you.
I'm going to give you two riddles. One of these
two riddles is the first recorded riddle in history, and
one is something I made up this morning. Okay, okay,
are you ready? Riddle a what gets fat without eating

(08:34):
and pregnant without having sex? And you can try to
guess or I can give you the answer. That's not
part of the actual fact checking puzzle. But what gets
fat without eating and pregnant without having sex is I
will say. Both of these are Babylonian puzzles, so they're

(08:55):
funnier in the Babylonian and they like rice or.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Something like what gives birth? Well, like rice gets fat
without eating. Is put in water?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right, Water is good. Water is like the ocean, or
like water is water but up in the air like.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Evaporation, rain cloud, rain cloud.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Gets fat without eating.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Sure it gets bigger and pregnant. I guess like that,
Why does the baby is the water the rain abstract?
I'm not on board.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't feel bad because I still don't see I
don't see it. I've never looked up in the sky
and said, like, holy crap, that cloud has twins. Look
at the size of it.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Right, yeah, and you never see one plopping out another cloud?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Good point. Good point.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
The one's ever said it's raining babies either. Let's just
add that. Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
All right, so you're skeptical of it, but but maybe
if you spoke Babylonian it would make more sense. All right,
here's the other possible riddle. What is a crop that
grows in all four seasons? A crop that grows in
all four seasons?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
And it's a riddle, so it can't it's not just
like corn, Like, it's not like a real answer.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, I don't know that wasn't clouds was their attempt
at a real answer? Well, already. I feel like I
know me too.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
The first one is his No, I.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Think, oh he thinks we're thinking crops, your early agriculture, civilization.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I just think, whatever this riddle is, whatever this answer
is probably better.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Should we just.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Let's try to find out the answer. Let's work it
for a minute.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Like, good job, Okay, what was crop in all four?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
What is a crop that grows in all four seasons?
So yeah, you got it. Is something that grows in
all four But it's not like you said. It's not
like corn, but it is something that grows crop of
crop the top. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh hair ah, yeah, has got it right.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's the first one.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Is the first riddle, okay, because it's so stupid, this
one was clever, a little bit clever, so I think
AJ made it up.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, I'll stick with you.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You are right, and thank you for thinking I'm more
clever than Ben. Sure are honored.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You would never say that cloud thing.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean, these folks, what would they think. I was
just reading Hamarabi's code this morning, and I was equally flummix.
It's no wonder this riddle didn't hold up.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, well you did great, you busted me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Let's be clear, Monica did great. She's three for three,
two for three, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Two for three. That's still a sea a see yuck.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Really, it's very magna of you.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Where can people hear more of Dax and Monica?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
We are everywhere one would listen to podcasts, so please
check us out Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Armchair Expert love it.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And for those puzzlers at home, we have one extra credit.
Which of these is true? Alexander the Great started a
war because of a jigsaw puzzle or Alexander the Great
started a war because of an anagram? One of those
is true. Puzzlers, please don't forget to subscribe to the

(12:29):
Puzzler podcast and we will meet you here tomorrow for
more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzlingly.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Hello, puzzlers, this is Chief Puzzle Officer Greg Pliska here
with the extra credit answer from our previous show, we
played Armchair Export with Monica and Dax. It's Armchair Export,
not Expert. Every answer is the name of a well
known podcast with one letter changed. Your extra credit clue

(13:01):
was from n p R. This show explores wheat barley
and oats that you cannot see with host shanker Vedantum
and the answer, of course is hidden grain, a single
letter change from the great show Hidden Brain. But your
brains aren't hidden, are they. They're right there for us
to see here in the puzzle Lab. Catch you next time.
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