April 26, 2025 • 41 mins
Richard Sherman reacts to the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft. Sherm gives his takes on Shedeur Sanders going unpicked in the first round, the San Francisco 49ers taking edge rusher Mykel Williams out of Georgia, the Seattle Seahawks picking North Dakota State guard Grey Zabel, the Jacksonville Jaguars trading with the Cleveland Browns for the No. 2 pick to take University of Colorado star Travis Hunter, Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders taking Boise State running back Ashton Jeanty at No. 6, and more!
2:00 - Shedeur Sanders not picked in first round
21:00 - Jags trade up for Hunter
26:00 - 49ers & Seahawks draft picks
39:15 - Pete & Radiers pick Ashton Jeanty
43:30 - First round CBs
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Volumetol championships. That should always do the expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, man, at you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another day, another dollar, Mitchell.
Some young men just made some dreams come true last night.
But one guy who we're a fan of did not
have his dream come true, at least as of yet.
Shador Sanders, son of crime Ton Dion Sanders. We thought
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he would go to the Giants at three, potentially the
Raiders at six, maybe the Saints at nine. If that
all failed, I thought it was almost a guarantee that
he'd go to Tomlin at twenty. He went none of
those spots. Not only did he not go, Mitchell, the
Giants come back trade back into the draft to the
twenty fifth pick and take a quarterback that where's number two?
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But it was not shir Door Sanders, and that is unfortunate.
They took Jackson Dard, who it seems like just randomly,
you know, his stocks started to fly and increase late
in the season. I mean, his stats looked really good.
He did play an SEC. But obviously Shador had incredible stats.
One you know, best quarterback in college seventy four percent
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completion percentage over forty touchdowns passing the football led his
team to I mean a much better record, improved record
than they had ever had. I thought he played incredible football.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I thought he showed enough to be drafted in the
first round in the National Football League and obviously the
team start otherwise. There's a high probability that he'll be
selected in the second round, in the first five picks,
I would imagine. But what do you think about that
and why do you think it happened?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, Richard? First off, this should be a national holiday.
The NFL draft by far my favorite time of the year.
Shador Sanders, like you said, I mean, he got it
done at Jackson State, he moves on to Colorado, elevates
that program to relevance nationally, and now he's getting his
jersey retired. He was a human highlight reel out there.
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Obviously he had a huge weapon in Travis Hunter, who
won number two overall. Rightfully so, but it yields the
question of hey, is it because of his last name?
Do you think these teams are looking at him as
a potential distraction because he is a son of Dion
Sanders coach prime I just don't get it because you
saw we saw reports from the anonymous executives saying that
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you know, he interviewed terribly, He was what was a word, pretentious, entitled.
You don't see it with that level of talent because
there are so many teams that are QB needy and
to pass on a talent like Shador Sanders, it does
not make sense to me. So that begs the question,
do you think because he is coach prime, I'm Deon Sanders' son,
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do you think that had anything to do with this?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, first off, let's get to the first thing. You're
adressed anonymous sources, and you know how I feel about
anonymous sources and people who don't have to put their
name behind things, People who don't have to put their
their word behind things, their face behind things. Not only
that people can make up stores. People can make up
things and nobody has said them and say, hey, anonymous
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source said sir Door Sanders did this, or Jackson dor
did this, or cam Or did this, and there is
no investigation into this source, so that you can say, hey,
that's a credible source or a not credible source, because
it may not be a source at all. And that's
a very frustrating thing for me to deal with, and
to see such negative press put out there. Astra Door
Sanders comes out with no fact checking behind it, so
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we don't know if it's from a credible source. We
don't know who it's from at all. We could you
could sit there and say high level exec, what high
level exec for what team? Because just because they're in
a general manager position doesn't mean they're eye level execs
because they're bad general Leonards of the National Football League.
There are bad coaches, there are bad scouts. So you
can't take everybody who says something about somebody at face value.
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And I think that's the thing. Even with an anonymous source,
we should be able to vet, but you can never bet.
You can never vet it's even actual, real source, and
that's very frustrating. But Shador played well enough to be
drafted in the first round, and I think, you know,
with the negative press and maybe how he carried himself
or whatever the case may be, he just didn't happen.
But for the Pittsburgh Steelers to draft the d tackle
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with their defensive line as stacked as it is, I mean,
you know, obviously Cam Hayward's getting older, and you know,
but coming off of Pro Bowls are all pro season,
Pro Bowl season, TJ. Wat's getting older. But you you
go after a position where you're like, hey, we have
guys in place, but we in the future, we're gonna
need new guys. Cool, I understand that, but you also
have Mason Rudolph right now pennceville and as your starter.
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And no, no disrespect to Madison Rudolph, but you don't
think Mason Ruolf is the future. You draft for the future.
You draft a better player that you can help build
and motivate. Maybe you get Aaron Rodgers, but even if
you get Aaron Rodgers for a season or two, you
still need a young guy to follow up. So for
them not to take a quarterback and to pass on
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Shador Sanders at twenty was really head scratching for me
because you don't have an answer in the house right now.
You don't even have an answer in the agency. You
don't have I mean, I don't see how you go
through a season with what you have right now. If
you go out there with Mason Rudolph, you're wasting another
year of t J. Watt and this talented cool. What
did you trade for dk Mettap for if you're going
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to go out there and not make this team better
at the quarterback, the most important position on your football team,
you're going to pass on improving it. And I don't
think there's any question that Shador Sanders has the pedigree,
has the performance, has the intangibles, has the things that
you want for a quarterback in the National Football League.
Maybe you didn't think he was right for you program,
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but I just I really would love to hear the
answer from some of these gms of why he didn't
go or why they didn't pick him. At least these
quarterback needy teams like the Giants go pick Jackson Dart.
Why do you pick Jackson Dart over Shador Sanders. Please
show me the tape or show me what it was
about Jackson Dart that made him a better selection than
shardor Sanders, if that's where you're going with the quarterback spot.
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I think every draft expert hat Shador over Jackson Dark.
Jackson Dark kind of moved up the forward to lighton
the draft process, but it's always weird to me to
see guys move up the draft charts that while football's
not being played and there's no football being played right now.
So I mean outside of hey, if you had some
character concerns or some red flat concerns and maybe he
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put those to bed, then a guy can move up some.
But if you're saying, hey, this guy, we've watched all
the tape he's over his years in college, we've seen
him in practice, we've reviewed everything, and we think he's here,
and to go through the process and say, oh, he's
moving up the process because we met the guy and
talked to him and found out he's really smart or right,
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maybe a guy isn't really smart, or whatever the case
may be. I'd love to hear why reasoning, because I
don't understand this.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It doesn't make sense. The only thing I can think
of in terms of the Steelers is they just spent
a first round pick a couple of years ago on
Kenny Pickett, and we saw how that worked out. Maybe
they weren't dead set on Kenny Pickett. Maybe they felt
like they settled a bit. Maybe they felt like they
were going to settle with whoever the best quarterback was available,
and they chose to go the alternative route. Like you said,
it seems to me like the Steelers are banking on
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Aaron Rodgers playing for them, and if not, it's going
to be a long and frustrating season. We've seen George
Pickens throw hissy fits on the sideline. I can't imagine
how many fits he's going to be thrown with Mason
Rudolph throwing him the ball for seventeen games, but that
makes you scratch your head even more. With the Steelers,
Shador Sanders, the one knock on him that you see
from scouts is that you know he's timing. He's not
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a good timing thrower. Maybe he doesn't go through his
progressions properly. But let's not discount the fact that he
was playing behind Colorado Buffalo's offensive line for the last
two years, and I know they kind of piecemeal together
through the transfer portal and they didn't have the best
athletes upfront to protect him. But what he showed in
those moments was an ability to make plays on the fly.
(08:18):
This guy's a playmaker. He's got everything you need in
terms of being able to get out of the pocket
and be mobile. Everyone's talking about having mobile quarterbacks and
Shador Sanders is just that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
To me.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If I'm an organization in need of a quarterback. I'm
taking a shot at this guy. And if you want
to talk about timing and going through your progressions and the
NFL's on coaching, right, I mean, this is the NFL.
You'd figure you get the guy with that level of
talent in house, you'd be able to coach up some
of those imperfections. The Cleveland brown situated at the top
of round two, look like they might have landed perfectly
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in this draft. They trade out of two, right, they
pass up on Travis Hunter, and they moved down get
Mason Graham, and now they're in position to get Shador Sanders,
who was rumored throughout a lot of this draft process
to go number two to them. Overall in Cleveland, Let's
talk a little bit about the Browns, because this team
to me that they won the draft based on the
(09:12):
circumstances that they were in as an organization. I think
Travis Hunter is going to be an absolute star down
in Jacksonville. And I love the aggressiveness the new GM
and Jacksonville did and putting his neck out there and saying, hey,
we're going to go after the generational talent and Travis Hunter.
But the Cleveland Browns and trading out of that pick,
they get another second, they get more picks, they get
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a future first, they get a guy in the middle
of Mason Graham that is going to recavoc for them,
and now they're in position to draft another quarterback. The
Browns in that trade for Deshaun Watson, it was the
most brutal situations that they put themselves into. It was
a self inflicted wound and it crippled this franchise for years.
This to me, for the Cleveland Browns is their saving grace,
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this trade that fell in their lap last night. Have
the opportunity to get should or Sanders in the house.
You know, how good would you feel to be a
fan of the Cleveland Browns to be in this Cleveland
brown organization with these circumstances playing out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think this is best case scenario for the Cleveland Browns.
I mean again, you bring Joe Flacko back, which is
which is a really good move. Joe Faco played really
good football in this system with these same guys. You know,
he's getting up there in age and you can bring
a young guy. He's a perfect guy to mentor young
quarterback coming into this game. He's a veteran who's won
Super Bowls, who played a lot of really good football,
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who understands NFL defenses, understands how to prepare, understands how
to approach the game. So I think Shador Sanders would benefit.
I think it's just surprising that he was available at
this time for them to even be able to pick
him at the top of the second, But I agree,
I think they got a haul. I think the Jacksonville Jaguars,
you know, with the Rams this theory and said, f
these picks, there's a generational talent available that we don't
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think we'll get any other years. And obviously they value
him in the way that they have. I think he's
going to be a wide receiver for them initially with
Brian Thomas, that makes them a really, really, really formidable
receiving corps. And Liam Cohen has some great, good guys
to work with. But I think that this is a
great move for the Browns and they got a guy
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that they wanted, that they valued, that they had graded
really high, and Mason Graham a guy that can can
really wreck havoc in the middle of that defense. Obviously,
they still have Miles Garrett, who's a menace. You know
this will only help him and his production. But I
think they have to they have to make a move
if they get Shad door Standers the top second round.
I mean, regardless of what else they do in this draft.
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I think it's been a home run, no question.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
The one thing is there's not a whole lot of
quarterbacks drafted in the second round. I mean, the last
three years has only been one quarterback taken combined throughout
all three and that's Will Loves. I mean, you don't
see a ton of guys in the history of football
coming out of the second round. I mean Brett Farv obviously,
you got Drew Brees, Jalen Hurts. Most recently, Geno Smith
is probably the most comparable guy of recent with his
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slipping slide down down the draft ranks out of West Virginia,
We're seeing something similar out of Shador.
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Speaker 4 (13:57):
Richard, you slid in the draft. I know you talk
throughout your entire career about what that did to that
big chip on your shoulder. I mean, how motivating is
this going to be the shador Sanders for the rest
of his career, not being picked in the first round,
being passed on by all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I think it's going to be humbling and motivating
at the same time. This is worst case scenario, at
least for him and his family and his expectations. So
I think it gave him a knight to really really
sit there and sit there and self reflect and understand
what he's going to have to do with what this means.
And I think it's gonna make him a better player,
a better person, a better leader, and a guy who
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really appreciates the opportunity that he's going to be given.
I know it's frustrating for me. I had to wait
freaking five rounds to hear my name and it got
I heard it, and it was a huge ship on
the shoulder and motivate me every single day, every single play,
every single practice, to go out there and push to
be better and to be more and to i mean dominate,
you know. And I think that's he's already had that motivation.
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He comes from a good family. Obviously, Dion Sanders has
mentored him his entire life, so he knows what the
expectation is. But this is individual, you know, this is
unique to him. This is you know, hey, Dion was
the first rounder, had all this stuff in front of
him and got treated in a certain way. He's not
going to get that treatment. So he's going to have
to make waves his own way. And I think this
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is going to be good for him. You know, this
is a little bit of a pivot, a little bit
of adversity that's unexpected. But I think he's a great
person and a great player that's going to respond incredibly
well to this. And I hope he goes to a
situation that gives him an opportunity to thrive and gives
him a situation where the offense is built in a
way that can can highlight and appreciate the talents that
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he has and his ability to push the ball down
the field. Obviously, the team's picking early in the second
round don't have the best offensive line, so it'll be
similar to what he dealt with in college. But you know,
hopefully he can navigate that situation.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Let's talk a little bit more about his former team
at Travis Hunt here. We've already talked a little bit
about the Jags. I mean James Gladstone, the new young GM.
He loves him some. Travis Hunter. He said, there are
very few players who have the capacity to alter the
trajectory of the sport itself. Travis, while he has a
lot to still learn in our eyes as a potential
to do just that, they gave up a lot to
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move up. Do you think he is worth that type
of hall? I mean giving up the fifth, a second,
a fourth, and a future first to move up and
get a guy that is going to embark on the
large task of playing both sides of the ball. What
are your thoughts overall about Travis Hunter? Is he worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah? I mean I think you've gotten to the point
where you're you've picked They've picked receivers. I mean, you
remember what Atlanta gave up get Julio Jones, and Julio
Jones is one of the best receivers in the history
of the Atlanta Falcons, in the history of National Football League.
And so if he makes that kind of impact in it,
and obviously they had a first round grade on him
as a receiver, of first round grade on him as
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a corner. So a guy that can come in and
really impact the game on both sides of the ball.
I'm not sure how they'll use him. I would, I
guess they would. You know, it's the offensive league, so
they'll try him on offense first and try to find
them the spot play on defense, which I'm not sure
is a great plan because it's hard to spot play
on defense. Like you take a guy off the field
and they can literally ruin the game the play z
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off the field. You know, you take five players off
on defense and they can give up five touchdowns and
you're looking up and you're like, hey, well, what was
the point of playing them on defense If you're going
to take him off the field and they can just
bomb us the same way they were going to before,
and he's not able to make the impact that you
want him to make, but I think that he's worth
it because of his star power that he brings, the
talent that he obviously brings. If you can pay what
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you need to play for generational talent, rather than pass
up on it and potentially miss it, you do what
you gotta do. I mean, time will only tell if
he's worth the Hall, but I think he's gonna be
worth it, and he's going to be incredibly impactful, a
Pro Bowl, All Pro, perennial player in this league.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I know what he wants to play balls sides of
the ball. He's expressed that throughout this entire draft process,
and he's proven he's more than capable of doing so.
But with that comes a lot of questions. Obviously he's
a well conditioned athlete. But Richard, you talked about it
and Legion to Boom days. You talked about these receivers
just trying to run go routes to get you guys gassed, Like,
if he really is to play on both sides of
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the ball, how much of a tall task is that?
Is it fully realistic? And if he's only going to play,
to your point, fifty percent of the staffs defensively, Like
could you imagine yourself coming in and out, you know,
fifty percent of the game, Like I have to imagine
you settle into a groove, you get comfortable. You might
have a player too that you don't feel comfortable with,
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but you finally find your footing and settle in. Like
how important is that to have that consistent repetition at
that position throughout the game. Is it realistic that he
can play and contribute effectively on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that's to be seen. You know, it hasn't been
done a lot at corner. Yes, why you don't see
what really corners ro tating successfully, you know, splitting, splitting
time and things like that, because it's a tough position.
You see it at receiver, because the receiver can come
out for a couple of plays, take a water break,
you know, get a squig, come back in there and
make impactful plays and get targeted and bust the game open.
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But at corner it's really difficult to do because you
do get into a rhythm, a rhythm of the game,
a rhythm of footwork, you know, tackling and and just
impacting the game from that side of the all. So,
you know, but it's something he's done in the cut
at the college level, He's shown that he's capable of
ball of doing. But it's going to be really difficult
to do in the National Football League if they don't
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have a great plan for him. You know, you've got
to keep him in there for a while on defense
so that he can get the rhythm. I think offensively,
you can take him in and out not really lose anything.
He not really lose his impact. But I think if
you play like that on defense, you know, you you
run the risk of putting him in a really difficult
situation if he's not in a rhythm.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Let's talk a little bit bout your former teams. Will start
with the San Francisco forty nine ers. They had a
lot of needs going in this draft, a lot of
roster turnover this offseason. Obviously paying brock perty on the horizon.
That comes with some tough roster decisions, and John Lynch
handled those the best he thought he could. They had
needs that offensive line, obviously Trent Williams is not getting
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any younger, but they also had need at edge opposite
of your boy, Nicholas john Bosa. They choose Mickel Williams
out of Georgia number eleven. He's coming off an ankle
in during twenty twenty four, but he was a human
highlight reel at Georgia. How happy are you with this
pick for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm really happy. I think he's gonna be a great player.
I think he's a great pick. You can't really go
wrong picking out of Georgia. You know, there's been You
look at the Philadelphia Eagles just won a Super Bowl
and they they're Georgia East, and they have been you know,
a lot of great players. Nakobe Dean, Noah Smith was
impactful from Georgia, obviously, Jaylen, Carter Davis. Those are just
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the guys off the top of my head that I
can remember from Georgia in their national championship teams. But yeah,
I think he's gonna be a really good player. Nicholas
John Bosa and needed some help. They needed to revamp
that defensive line and get another good pass rusher on
the other side of Bosa, and they've been trying to
do that for years. They tried it with Leonard Floyd,
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they tried it with Chase Young, who you know had
some success, and they've been trying to find him a
complimentary piece for a number of years, so hopefully this
guy's the answer. The coaches are really excited about him,
and the staff is really excited about him. They were
trying to trade up to get him. Luckily he failed
to them at the spot they were in. So that's
been really good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And now they have picked forty three, seventy five and
one hundred day two of the draft. Obviously, as we said,
they got a lot of positions in need. Which route
would you most like to see them go?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well? Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line,
offense line, because I know that Kyle and John feel
comfortable with the guys they have, but I don't think
I do. I don't know if the fans do, but
you know, they know more than me and they know better.
But I just think depth is always an issue, and
guys consistently get hurt, and you can never have enough
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good offense blindman, and there are very few in the
National Football League and even fewer to go around to
other teams. So with Trent Williams, you know, obviously getting
up there in age, you know, getting a little banged up,
you got to have more guys that can be able
to play in case he gets banged up or you
get banged up somewhere else. You got to have guys
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that can come in there and play and contribute, and
I just don't think they have enough right now. They
lost Jalen Moore, who was their swing tackle, you know,
who did come in there and play when guys got hurt.
So I think that's a place you got to address. Obviously,
a lot of tackles went off the board late. The
Chiefs got to tackle at the end of the first round,
and I think that's something you got to really look
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forward to if you're San Francisco forty nine ers. So
obviously corners a position to need safety with Tella Noah
Hufanga going to Denver is a position at you're gonna
need to address. Mustafa's gonna gonna obviously beat the penciled
in starter, but I think you got to continue to
find death at those positions. Linebacker you lose. Green Law
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is a position they've drafted really well at and they
have to continue to draft well at. So those are
spots that I would be looking at if I'm in
San Francisco for nuns.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Let's go a little bit further North Seattle Seahawks, they're
talking about offensive line trench work Richard Gray Zabel out
of North Dakota State. Rumor has it he was slugging
a bunch of bush lights last night with his family.
This is a guy, you know, I know a lot
of teams liked and frankly, I was hoping he would
slide all the way down to the Lions. Obviously Seattle
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liked him. He's versatile. You know, he played tackle at
North Dakota State. He can play guard and I think
they're going to probably slot him in at guard in
the NFL. But how important was this pick for the
Seattle Sea Is they try to bolster that offensive line.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's really important. I mean, this is this is one
of those picks and you could hear John talking about it.
The last interior offensive lineman that was drafted this high
was Hutch and you know, he's an all time in
the Hall of Fame offensive lineman, you know, one of
the greatest to ever play. And so that's what you need.
And obviously that's really high expectations of big shoes to
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feel for Zabel, But I think they expect this guy
to be a really impactful player for a very long
time and early on, and I don't know if he's
going to be playing guard or center or tackle. I
think they're going to keep him inside, so either center
or guard. But this is where they had to go.
They had a rough time on the interior offensive line
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last year. They got a lot of pressure up the
middle or down the middle throughout the year. So being
able to solidify that with the quarterback who's less mobile
than Geno Smith was not that Sam Donald can't move
around and can't run when he has to, but he's
not known to be a mobile quarterback. He's more of
a pocket passer. Stand in there, set his feet and
deliver the football. And I think the better you can
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protect him, the more effective he's going to be, and
the more effective any quarterback is going to be if
you keep him clean. So it was really important for
them to create a strong pocket for Sam Darnold, and
I think that's what they did. That's what they're focused on.
And I'm very impressed with John and this pick. I
think this is a great pick. I think this is
a great player, and I think this player is going
to be really good with this franchise for a long time.
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It's not always the flashy picks that push organizations forward.
Sometimes it's the consistent, like hard working, the do right guys,
and you get enough of them in your organization, you
become a really complete team, like your Detroit Lions. That's
why they are a factor now. They've drafted really well
on the offensive and defensive line over the last couple
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of years and it's made them contenders year in and
year out. And I think that's what Seattle's going to
do now. They obviously have drafted defensive lineman consistently, and
now they draft the offensive line, and that's going to
help him for a long time.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So I love to pay well. You talked about being
a hard worker and being dedicated. He's a farmer in
his free time, rich, so you know you're gonna have
to have to find some landform to farm up there
in Seattle and moreover. You know, obviously he played it
in DSU this era of the transfer portal. He probably
could have gone anywhere, and I know there was a
lot of Power five schools that were interested in them,
but he was loyal to NDSU and stuck it out
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for the rest of his career. You know, I have
to believe that the Seattle Seahawks organization viewed that as
a huge positive because we see it time and time
again with these guys bouncing from team to team to team,
and I can imagine that the turnoff for GMS, And
I know you probably think that same way. How big
do you think it is for an organization to look
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at a player's loyalty to their college university that they're
sticking with for five years.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think it's important, but I think that each situation
is unique. You know, you look at Travis Hunter. He
left Jackson State to go to Colorado, but he left
because probably left. He left, sure because it's coaching staff,
So it's unique opportunities like that. Sometimes you run the
situation where literally the entire coaching staff leaves, like the
University of Washington, the staff left to go to University
of Alabama. You know that's going to affect kids. But
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I think there is a microscope on kids that are
leaving more than two three times from a university. You know,
it's a bad look. Obviously, it's in the news right
now about the guy, the quarterback from Tennessee wanting to
leave because he wasn't getting four million dollars in going
to UCLA and getting last. Things like that will be
red flags for teams because it's just unnecessary headaches. And
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there are a lot of there's a huge talent of
talent pool in college football, and unless you're at the
tivity top of that talent pool, you're not going to
get to be given the grace. And now, if you're
a monster and you're a guy that you know talent,
talent gives you more grace, Mitchell, the more talent, the
more grace, the more leash. But I think they are
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looking at that more kids that are like, hey, I'm
not the starter this year, so I transfer. Oh I
wasn't started there as. I think that's going to start
to be a red flag that teams look at, and
teams don't want to pursue kids like that, or at
least don't want to draft them early on in the draft.
They're going to wait a few rounds and let it
be somebody else's problem. Let it be somebody else, because
those are the kids that'll be holding out the disputing contracts,
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not coming to practice because of certain things. And I think, yeah,
that's definitely gonna be something teams have to have to
be where we now.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
The Seahawks, after trading DK Metcalf, sit with a plethora
of Day two Picksy, they're picking fifty to fifty two,
eighty two, and ninety two on day two. Obviously they
have a whole lot wide receiver. You know, Tyler Lockett
walks out the door. DK Metcalf is traded. Where do
you want to see the Seattle Seahawks go on Day two?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, I think they're going to have to continue to
look at offensive line obviously. I think they're good just
about everywhere else, you know. I think they feel good
with Cane nine and Sharbona at the running back spot.
I do think another receiver in the second round, I
mean between fifty fifty two and ninety eight, you know,
I think you're going to be able to find a
wide receiver that's that's capable of being a really good
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player in the National Football League. I think linebacker somewhere
where you can always look for death. I think they're
really good at d line right now now. But you know,
I'm sure Mike McDonald donald is of the understanding that
more is more and if you can never have enough
defensive lineman in pass rushers. So I'm sure if there's
a guy there that they can't miss on, they're going
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to take him. But I think right now they're going
to just pick best available. I think they continue to
go off into the line. But I think if there's
a guy there that is a pass rusher, our corner,
or somebody that they just feel like they cannot miss on,
a guy they cannot pass on. If Will Johnson's did it,
I think you take him because I think he's a
guy that had a first round grade. I think they're
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saying he has some chronic issues with his knee is
why he fell out of the first round. But I
think in the second round, if you're looking at a
guy like that who was considered a top ten talent
majority of his career, you got to take a flyer
on that. He's stare at fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think he's I'm right there with you. I love
the best player available approach, especially for the sea Ars
with this amount of picks. I think so many draft
analysts and you know, Twitter analysts, whatever you want to
call them, they get so caught up in the positional
value of who's being drafted. They look at a team's
need and said, oh, you know, you need a defensive
end and you drafted a safety, and they don't sit
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back and analyze the player, you know, I mean, you
don't want to sit there and reach. These are these
organizations that these organizations that stay in this perpetual hamster
wheel of mediocrity are the ones that are reaching on
positions of need as opposed to taking the best player available.
And that's something we see with the Philadelphia Eagles every
single year that they're taking the best player available. They
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get Jahig Campbell again this year, who was widely considered
a top fifteen pick. I know he's got some injury issues,
but good organizations draft the best player available. So you know,
while these analysts are going to get caught up and
analyzing the position that was drafted, sit back and analyze
the player. The Seahawks have got an absolute war Chester
to Capitol in day two. We'll see what they do
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with it. Let's transition to Pete Carroll, your former coach
down now in Vegas. They take a stab. I know
he likes to hammer the rock, you know, I'm sure
he would love to have prime Marshawn Lynch in his backfield.
And he got the best thing he could next to that,
and that's Ashton Genty out of Boise State. A lot
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of folks question taking a running back that high at
number six overall, but obviously Pete Carroll and the Raiders
have a planned for him. What are your thoughts on
Ashton Genty to the Raiders at six.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think that's a perfect fit in a perfect game,
in a perfect place for Ashton Genty. I think it's
a great pick for Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas
Raiders because of the way he likes to coach and
it likes to gain play in a football game. He
loves to run the football, play action pass, he loves
to control the clock to keep the defense off the
field as long as possible, and I think that's what
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he's gonna do. That's been his recipe for success. That
was our recipe for success when we went to the
Super Bowl, when we won the Super Bowl and went
the next year, is Hey, we're not gonna throw it
a ton, but when we throw it, we're gonna take
care of the ball. We're not gonna turn it over
a ton. We're not gonna have a lot of risky plays.
We're gonna run the ball. Well, we're gonna control the clock.
We're gonna kinda three yards in a cloud of dust
our way through, pop some big ones, and then we're
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gonna play great defense. We're gonna play sound defense, gap control, gap, sound,
not letting footballs fly over our head. We're gonna make
them walk the ball on the field, be stingy in
the red zone, and they're gonna win football games. And
I think he has the running back that's a home
run hitter that hey, when there's a hole, there there's
a gap, there's a tackle to be broken. He's gonna
be able to get those extra yards. He's gonna be
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able to be durable enough to be at every down
back for him, He's shown that in college. He's shown
that he can be the guy that your team. And
then he has a veteran quarterback in Geno Smith that
he just got that he knows well, that he knows
can get the job done that he needs done to
win football games. And I think that's going to be
really important and really fun to watch. I think it's
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gonna be a great situation for Gino. I think it's
gonna be a great move for all parties involved in
Raiders fans should be excited.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I'm with you. The Las Vegas Raiders, Geno Smith should
be thrilled. I mean, they got weapons there in Las
Vegas for Gino. I mean, this Ashton genty draft pick
makes a ton of sense. And you got Brock Powers,
one of the rising stars. Arguably the best tight end
in football is rookie year right. I mean, and he's
only going to get better going into year two. Vegas
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might be a team to look out for going into
this season. Richard, I want to talk a little bit
about my Detroit Lions. They were picking them towards the
bottom of the draft, which it takes them getting used
to as a Detroit Lions fan, but I loved it, man.
I was able to watch the entire draft and we
saw how it fell to us. The Lions team, their organization,
they stood pat this free agency period. They didn't make
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a ton of splashy moves. They obviously got DJ Reid Well,
like we talked about, they're building from the ball out
and they got Tyleek Williams out of Ohio State. And
I know a lot of folks want the edge rusher.
They wanted Mike Green out of Marshall or the kid
out of Boston College, but TYLERK Williams. Brad Holmes seems
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to get it. You air on the side of drafting
from a high end college football program, and you did
just that with Ohio State. TYLERK Williams earned honorable mention
as freshman and sophomore year, and with third team All
Big Ten both of his junior and senior year. What
are your thoughts about this pick for the Detroit Lions
at defensive tackle TYLERK Williams.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I think, as always man, they make really solid picks,
guys that are going to play in the National Football
League for a long time, be really impactful. I thought
it was a great pick, a guy that's going to
help them again, not a flashy, splashy pick, but a
pick that fans will appreciate when you when you look
in December and January and their stuff the run and
the guys aren't able to run the ball in this defense,
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They're going to appreciate this pick. But I think Brad
Holmes has done a great job building this team. This
was the best talent he felt like was available in
terms of the health they're trying to get away from
drafting guys with health issues, our medical problems, our medical
red flags, and that has been apparent with the way
he's drafted. But I think this is a great pick.
The guy that's going to contribute for a long time,
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a guy that's going to be really rock solid in
the middle of that defense, and I think the fans
will eventually be very excited.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Let's talk a little bit about the cornerbacks in this
year's draft. We didn't see a whole lot of them
getting taken in Round one. It was it was really
only too Jday Baron out of Texas. Who's that Swiss
Army knife. Jim Thorpe Award winner goes to the Broncos,
which is going to just build that secondary and that
defense of that Denver Bronco team even more, and Maxwell
Harrison goes to the Bills. Let's start with Jaday Baron.
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How much do you like what the Denver Broncos are
doing here? It seems like, you know, everyone thought their
secondary was set. You got Pat, You've got all these
other guys and one of the best defenses in football,
but they're making their position of strength stronger. What are
your thoughts on Joday Baron to the Denver Broncos, I mean,
the rich get richer, and they're focusing on defense.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
They feel like that's the way they're gonna win football
games strong, having a strong defense and being able to
stop guys. They play a lot of Manda Man covers,
so the more the marry, the more guys got out
there to cover. Riley Moss had a really great season.
Obviously had that rough game against the Cincinnati Bengals and
t Higgins, but for overall, I think people understand certain
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end the defensive player of the year, reigning defensive player
of the Year is going to be out there. He's
going to probably be on the team's best wide receiver,
and everybody else is going to be really impactful. I
think I don't know if they expect today Baron to
be on the outside or the inside, but he played
a number of positions and he can play inside, he
can play outside. He has the safety spot, so I'm
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interested to see how they use him. But it's going
to be a really fun defense to watch this year.
They were fun to watch last year, but they're only
getting better. And then the Bills they address a position
to need.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Maxwell Harrison, you know, really rose up the draft boards
running a four to eight at the combine out of Kentucky.
They project him as a slot corner. Obviously, the Bills
need some help in the secondary. What do you think
of this pick for them? I think it's great. I mean,
they got banged up late in the season. They get
banged up at the corner spot just about every year
where they lose guys and lose starters. So this is
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the guy I think they know can play and he
can play man and man, he can play zone, he
can play everything.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He's got a great set of hands. I think he's
gonna be a really good football player. But we'll see.
Buffalo's a tough place to play dB with the weather
and inclement weather, and they've drafted corners early on before
that haven't necessarily panned out the way they wanted him to.
But I think this is one that's going to pan
out well as you look at this position. I mean,
who is your favorite dB in this draft class? Was
it today, Baron?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I know we already talked about Will Johnson. Let's leave
Travis Hunter out of this conversation for the time being,
because I think he takes the cake on that Who's
your favorite dB? In this class.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, Will Johnson was my favorite dB. You know, I
thought he played the game the right way. He plays
with an understanding, great feet, great instincts, great hands. But
unfortunately he didn't run well and he has the injury concerned.
But he's my favorite porter in the draft, and he's
still available, and I think he's going to have a
great NFL career. I could be wrong. I haven't seen
the medical report on him, but he's the guy that
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I had high hopes for.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Let's talk winners and losers here as round one concluded.
And I know it's hard to say. We're all armchair
you know analysts here, but who's your best team? I said,
round one, all things consider, who do you think took
the cake as the winner of the draft?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I hate doing that. I don't know, That's all I
can't say on that, because you know, you got bad
teams picking really good players, and you've got great teams
picking players late in the draft. They're still great teams.
You know, the Kennessee Chiefs they get worse, No, they didn't.
They're still They've been in the super Bowl the last
few years, what for the last five years, and they'll
likely be there again. The Philadelphia Eagles got great, but
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the Jacksonville jack Wars got Travis Hunter. Did they get better? Sure,
you know they picked up a great player, high caliber player,
but they have the other things to work out. There's
a reason their coach got fired. There's a reason they're
picking this high in the draft because they have some
things to fix. But draft picks, I hate when they
do winners and losers of draft. They are winners and
losers of the offseason because you really won't know until
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you line up on Sundays. You know, there's been Super
Bowl champions named in the off season that have top
picked top five the last The next year, you know, hey,
they won the off season, But why are they picking
top five again? Because they didn't win anything offseason? Isn't
isn't a record captist out a time who lines up
on Sundays for seventeen weeks and plays well? And I
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think we won't know that. We won't even know how
some of these rookies will play until they line it
up in training camp. So I've got no comment on
who won or who lost. I like a lot of
these picks. I like the Seahawks pick, I like the Niners, pick.
I love Travis Hunter going to Jacksonville. We'll see what
the quarterbacks Jackson Dart and cam Ward. We'll see how
cam Ward does in Tennessee. I like Mason Graham in Cleveland.
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I like Dual Carter in with the Giants, you know,
with Dexter Lawrence and Cavon Thibodeau. I think that's going
to be a really formidable front that's gonna grek hav
It four a lot of teams.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
I tend to agree with you this winner and loser
segment here rewind back to twenty twenty three. My Detroit
Lions were considered the losers of the draft when they
took Jamiir Gibbs, Jack Campbell, Samuel Porter, and Brian Branch
and we see how that critique panned out. Richard, again,
my favorite time of year. Round one is a rap
I know you're going to be presenting Round two pick
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for the Seattle Seahawks tonight. I know you're excited about it.
I will let you sign us off, my friend. Well,
I appreciate you, Mitchell. This is a great time of
the year. I hope you guys are enjoying and enjoying
the team. The guys your team picked. I think this
is gonna be a great day. I look forward to
announcing the Seahawks pick. I think it's gonna be fun.
Hopefully it's a great guy and a great player. But
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I appreciate you guys for joining us as always. You
could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us.
We sure to appreciate it. Have a beautiful, blessed day.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Enjoyed the draft, the volume
The Volumetol championships. That should always do the expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, man, at you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another day, another dollar, Mitchell.
Some young men just made some dreams come true last night.
But one guy who we're a fan of did not
have his dream come true, at least as of yet.
Shador Sanders, son of crime Ton Dion Sanders. We thought
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he would go to the Giants at three, potentially the
Raiders at six, maybe the Saints at nine. If that
all failed, I thought it was almost a guarantee that
he'd go to Tomlin at twenty. He went none of
those spots. Not only did he not go, Mitchell, the
Giants come back trade back into the draft to the
twenty fifth pick and take a quarterback that where's number two?
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But it was not shir Door Sanders, and that is unfortunate.
They took Jackson Dard, who it seems like just randomly,
you know, his stocks started to fly and increase late
in the season. I mean, his stats looked really good.
He did play an SEC. But obviously Shador had incredible stats.
One you know, best quarterback in college seventy four percent
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completion percentage over forty touchdowns passing the football led his
team to I mean a much better record, improved record
than they had ever had. I thought he played incredible football.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I thought he showed enough to be drafted in the
first round in the National Football League and obviously the
team start otherwise. There's a high probability that he'll be
selected in the second round, in the first five picks,
I would imagine. But what do you think about that
and why do you think it happened?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, Richard? First off, this should be a national holiday.
The NFL draft by far my favorite time of the year.
Shador Sanders, like you said, I mean, he got it
done at Jackson State, he moves on to Colorado, elevates
that program to relevance nationally, and now he's getting his
jersey retired. He was a human highlight reel out there.
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Obviously he had a huge weapon in Travis Hunter, who
won number two overall. Rightfully so, but it yields the
question of hey, is it because of his last name?
Do you think these teams are looking at him as
a potential distraction because he is a son of Dion
Sanders coach prime I just don't get it because you
saw we saw reports from the anonymous executives saying that
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you know, he interviewed terribly, He was what was a word, pretentious, entitled.
You don't see it with that level of talent because
there are so many teams that are QB needy and
to pass on a talent like Shador Sanders, it does
not make sense to me. So that begs the question,
do you think because he is coach prime, I'm Deon Sanders' son,
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do you think that had anything to do with this?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, first off, let's get to the first thing. You're
adressed anonymous sources, and you know how I feel about
anonymous sources and people who don't have to put their
name behind things, People who don't have to put their
their word behind things, their face behind things. Not only
that people can make up stores. People can make up
things and nobody has said them and say, hey, anonymous
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source said sir Door Sanders did this, or Jackson dor
did this, or cam Or did this, and there is
no investigation into this source, so that you can say, hey,
that's a credible source or a not credible source, because
it may not be a source at all. And that's
a very frustrating thing for me to deal with, and
to see such negative press put out there. Astra Door
Sanders comes out with no fact checking behind it, so
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we don't know if it's from a credible source. We
don't know who it's from at all. We could you
could sit there and say high level exec, what high
level exec for what team? Because just because they're in
a general manager position doesn't mean they're eye level execs
because they're bad general Leonards of the National Football League.
There are bad coaches, there are bad scouts. So you
can't take everybody who says something about somebody at face value.
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And I think that's the thing. Even with an anonymous source,
we should be able to vet, but you can never bet.
You can never vet it's even actual, real source, and
that's very frustrating. But Shador played well enough to be
drafted in the first round, and I think, you know,
with the negative press and maybe how he carried himself
or whatever the case may be, he just didn't happen.
But for the Pittsburgh Steelers to draft the d tackle
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with their defensive line as stacked as it is, I mean,
you know, obviously Cam Hayward's getting older, and you know,
but coming off of Pro Bowls are all pro season,
Pro Bowl season, TJ. Wat's getting older. But you you
go after a position where you're like, hey, we have
guys in place, but we in the future, we're gonna
need new guys. Cool, I understand that, but you also
have Mason Rudolph right now pennceville and as your starter.
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And no, no disrespect to Madison Rudolph, but you don't
think Mason Ruolf is the future. You draft for the future.
You draft a better player that you can help build
and motivate. Maybe you get Aaron Rodgers, but even if
you get Aaron Rodgers for a season or two, you
still need a young guy to follow up. So for
them not to take a quarterback and to pass on
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Shador Sanders at twenty was really head scratching for me
because you don't have an answer in the house right now.
You don't even have an answer in the agency. You
don't have I mean, I don't see how you go
through a season with what you have right now. If
you go out there with Mason Rudolph, you're wasting another
year of t J. Watt and this talented cool. What
did you trade for dk Mettap for if you're going
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to go out there and not make this team better
at the quarterback, the most important position on your football team,
you're going to pass on improving it. And I don't
think there's any question that Shador Sanders has the pedigree,
has the performance, has the intangibles, has the things that
you want for a quarterback in the National Football League.
Maybe you didn't think he was right for you program,
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but I just I really would love to hear the
answer from some of these gms of why he didn't
go or why they didn't pick him. At least these
quarterback needy teams like the Giants go pick Jackson Dart.
Why do you pick Jackson Dart over Shador Sanders. Please
show me the tape or show me what it was
about Jackson Dart that made him a better selection than
shardor Sanders, if that's where you're going with the quarterback spot.
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I think every draft expert hat Shador over Jackson Dark.
Jackson Dark kind of moved up the forward to lighton
the draft process, but it's always weird to me to
see guys move up the draft charts that while football's
not being played and there's no football being played right now.
So I mean outside of hey, if you had some
character concerns or some red flat concerns and maybe he
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put those to bed, then a guy can move up some.
But if you're saying, hey, this guy, we've watched all
the tape he's over his years in college, we've seen
him in practice, we've reviewed everything, and we think he's here,
and to go through the process and say, oh, he's
moving up the process because we met the guy and
talked to him and found out he's really smart or right,
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maybe a guy isn't really smart, or whatever the case
may be. I'd love to hear why reasoning, because I
don't understand this.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It doesn't make sense. The only thing I can think
of in terms of the Steelers is they just spent
a first round pick a couple of years ago on
Kenny Pickett, and we saw how that worked out. Maybe
they weren't dead set on Kenny Pickett. Maybe they felt
like they settled a bit. Maybe they felt like they
were going to settle with whoever the best quarterback was available,
and they chose to go the alternative route. Like you said,
it seems to me like the Steelers are banking on
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Aaron Rodgers playing for them, and if not, it's going
to be a long and frustrating season. We've seen George
Pickens throw hissy fits on the sideline. I can't imagine
how many fits he's going to be thrown with Mason
Rudolph throwing him the ball for seventeen games, but that
makes you scratch your head even more. With the Steelers,
Shador Sanders, the one knock on him that you see
from scouts is that you know he's timing. He's not
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a good timing thrower. Maybe he doesn't go through his
progressions properly. But let's not discount the fact that he
was playing behind Colorado Buffalo's offensive line for the last
two years, and I know they kind of piecemeal together
through the transfer portal and they didn't have the best
athletes upfront to protect him. But what he showed in
those moments was an ability to make plays on the fly.
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This guy's a playmaker. He's got everything you need in
terms of being able to get out of the pocket
and be mobile. Everyone's talking about having mobile quarterbacks and
Shador Sanders is just that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
To me.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If I'm an organization in need of a quarterback. I'm
taking a shot at this guy. And if you want
to talk about timing and going through your progressions and the
NFL's on coaching, right, I mean, this is the NFL.
You'd figure you get the guy with that level of
talent in house, you'd be able to coach up some
of those imperfections. The Cleveland brown situated at the top
of round two, look like they might have landed perfectly
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in this draft. They trade out of two, right, they
pass up on Travis Hunter, and they moved down get
Mason Graham, and now they're in position to get Shador Sanders,
who was rumored throughout a lot of this draft process
to go number two to them. Overall in Cleveland, Let's
talk a little bit about the Browns, because this team
to me that they won the draft based on the
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circumstances that they were in as an organization. I think
Travis Hunter is going to be an absolute star down
in Jacksonville. And I love the aggressiveness the new GM
and Jacksonville did and putting his neck out there and saying, hey,
we're going to go after the generational talent and Travis Hunter.
But the Cleveland Browns and trading out of that pick,
they get another second, they get more picks, they get
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a future first, they get a guy in the middle
of Mason Graham that is going to recavoc for them,
and now they're in position to draft another quarterback. The
Browns in that trade for Deshaun Watson, it was the
most brutal situations that they put themselves into. It was
a self inflicted wound and it crippled this franchise for years.
This to me, for the Cleveland Browns is their saving grace,
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this trade that fell in their lap last night. Have
the opportunity to get should or Sanders in the house.
You know, how good would you feel to be a
fan of the Cleveland Browns to be in this Cleveland
brown organization with these circumstances playing out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think this is best case scenario for the Cleveland Browns.
I mean again, you bring Joe Flacko back, which is
which is a really good move. Joe Faco played really
good football in this system with these same guys. You know,
he's getting up there in age and you can bring
a young guy. He's a perfect guy to mentor young
quarterback coming into this game. He's a veteran who's won
Super Bowls, who played a lot of really good football,
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who understands NFL defenses, understands how to prepare, understands how
to approach the game. So I think Shador Sanders would benefit.
I think it's just surprising that he was available at
this time for them to even be able to pick
him at the top of the second, But I agree,
I think they got a haul. I think the Jacksonville Jaguars,
you know, with the Rams this theory and said, f
these picks, there's a generational talent available that we don't
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think we'll get any other years. And obviously they value
him in the way that they have. I think he's
going to be a wide receiver for them initially with
Brian Thomas, that makes them a really, really, really formidable
receiving corps. And Liam Cohen has some great, good guys
to work with. But I think that this is a
great move for the Browns and they got a guy
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that they wanted, that they valued, that they had graded
really high, and Mason Graham a guy that can can
really wreck havoc in the middle of that defense. Obviously,
they still have Miles Garrett, who's a menace. You know
this will only help him and his production. But I
think they have to they have to make a move
if they get Shad door Standers the top second round.
I mean, regardless of what else they do in this draft.
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I think it's been a home run, no question.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
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quarterbacks drafted in the second round. I mean, the last
three years has only been one quarterback taken combined throughout
all three and that's Will Loves. I mean, you don't
see a ton of guys in the history of football
coming out of the second round. I mean Brett Farv obviously,
you got Drew Brees, Jalen Hurts. Most recently, Geno Smith
is probably the most comparable guy of recent with his
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We're seeing something similar out of Shador.
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Speaker 4 (13:57):
Richard, you slid in the draft. I know you talk
throughout your entire career about what that did to that
big chip on your shoulder. I mean, how motivating is
this going to be the shador Sanders for the rest
of his career, not being picked in the first round,
being passed on by all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I think it's going to be humbling and motivating
at the same time. This is worst case scenario, at
least for him and his family and his expectations. So
I think it gave him a knight to really really
sit there and sit there and self reflect and understand
what he's going to have to do with what this means.
And I think it's gonna make him a better player,
a better person, a better leader, and a guy who
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really appreciates the opportunity that he's going to be given.
I know it's frustrating for me. I had to wait
freaking five rounds to hear my name and it got
I heard it, and it was a huge ship on
the shoulder and motivate me every single day, every single play,
every single practice, to go out there and push to
be better and to be more and to i mean dominate,
you know. And I think that's he's already had that motivation.
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He comes from a good family. Obviously, Dion Sanders has
mentored him his entire life, so he knows what the
expectation is. But this is individual, you know, this is
unique to him. This is you know, hey, Dion was
the first rounder, had all this stuff in front of
him and got treated in a certain way. He's not
going to get that treatment. So he's going to have
to make waves his own way. And I think this
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is going to be good for him. You know, this
is a little bit of a pivot, a little bit
of adversity that's unexpected. But I think he's a great
person and a great player that's going to respond incredibly
well to this. And I hope he goes to a
situation that gives him an opportunity to thrive and gives
him a situation where the offense is built in a
way that can can highlight and appreciate the talents that
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he has and his ability to push the ball down
the field. Obviously, the team's picking early in the second
round don't have the best offensive line, so it'll be
similar to what he dealt with in college. But you know,
hopefully he can navigate that situation.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Let's talk a little bit more about his former team
at Travis Hunt here. We've already talked a little bit
about the Jags. I mean James Gladstone, the new young GM.
He loves him some. Travis Hunter. He said, there are
very few players who have the capacity to alter the
trajectory of the sport itself. Travis, while he has a
lot to still learn in our eyes as a potential
to do just that, they gave up a lot to
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move up. Do you think he is worth that type
of hall? I mean giving up the fifth, a second,
a fourth, and a future first to move up and
get a guy that is going to embark on the
large task of playing both sides of the ball. What
are your thoughts overall about Travis Hunter? Is he worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah? I mean I think you've gotten to the point
where you're you've picked They've picked receivers. I mean, you
remember what Atlanta gave up get Julio Jones, and Julio
Jones is one of the best receivers in the history
of the Atlanta Falcons, in the history of National Football League.
And so if he makes that kind of impact in it,
and obviously they had a first round grade on him
as a receiver, of first round grade on him as
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a corner. So a guy that can come in and
really impact the game on both sides of the ball.
I'm not sure how they'll use him. I would, I
guess they would. You know, it's the offensive league, so
they'll try him on offense first and try to find
them the spot play on defense, which I'm not sure
is a great plan because it's hard to spot play
on defense. Like you take a guy off the field
and they can literally ruin the game the play z
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off the field. You know, you take five players off
on defense and they can give up five touchdowns and
you're looking up and you're like, hey, well, what was
the point of playing them on defense If you're going
to take him off the field and they can just
bomb us the same way they were going to before,
and he's not able to make the impact that you
want him to make, but I think that he's worth
it because of his star power that he brings, the
talent that he obviously brings. If you can pay what
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you need to play for generational talent, rather than pass
up on it and potentially miss it, you do what
you gotta do. I mean, time will only tell if
he's worth the Hall, but I think he's gonna be
worth it, and he's going to be incredibly impactful, a
Pro Bowl, All Pro, perennial player in this league.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I know what he wants to play balls sides of
the ball. He's expressed that throughout this entire draft process,
and he's proven he's more than capable of doing so.
But with that comes a lot of questions. Obviously he's
a well conditioned athlete. But Richard, you talked about it
and Legion to Boom days. You talked about these receivers
just trying to run go routes to get you guys gassed, Like,
if he really is to play on both sides of
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the ball, how much of a tall task is that?
Is it fully realistic? And if he's only going to play,
to your point, fifty percent of the staffs defensively, Like
could you imagine yourself coming in and out, you know,
fifty percent of the game, Like I have to imagine
you settle into a groove, you get comfortable. You might
have a player too that you don't feel comfortable with,
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but you finally find your footing and settle in. Like
how important is that to have that consistent repetition at
that position throughout the game. Is it realistic that he
can play and contribute effectively on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that's to be seen. You know, it hasn't been
done a lot at corner. Yes, why you don't see
what really corners ro tating successfully, you know, splitting, splitting
time and things like that, because it's a tough position.
You see it at receiver, because the receiver can come
out for a couple of plays, take a water break,
you know, get a squig, come back in there and
make impactful plays and get targeted and bust the game open.
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But at corner it's really difficult to do because you
do get into a rhythm, a rhythm of the game,
a rhythm of footwork, you know, tackling and and just
impacting the game from that side of the all. So,
you know, but it's something he's done in the cut
at the college level, He's shown that he's capable of
ball of doing. But it's going to be really difficult
to do in the National Football League if they don't
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have a great plan for him. You know, you've got
to keep him in there for a while on defense
so that he can get the rhythm. I think offensively,
you can take him in and out not really lose anything.
He not really lose his impact. But I think if
you play like that on defense, you know, you you
run the risk of putting him in a really difficult
situation if he's not in a rhythm.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Let's talk a little bit bout your former teams. Will start
with the San Francisco forty nine ers. They had a
lot of needs going in this draft, a lot of
roster turnover this offseason. Obviously paying brock perty on the horizon.
That comes with some tough roster decisions, and John Lynch
handled those the best he thought he could. They had
needs that offensive line, obviously Trent Williams is not getting
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any younger, but they also had need at edge opposite
of your boy, Nicholas john Bosa. They choose Mickel Williams
out of Georgia number eleven. He's coming off an ankle
in during twenty twenty four, but he was a human
highlight reel at Georgia. How happy are you with this
pick for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm really happy. I think he's gonna be a great player.
I think he's a great pick. You can't really go
wrong picking out of Georgia. You know, there's been You
look at the Philadelphia Eagles just won a Super Bowl
and they they're Georgia East, and they have been you know,
a lot of great players. Nakobe Dean, Noah Smith was
impactful from Georgia, obviously, Jaylen, Carter Davis. Those are just
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the guys off the top of my head that I
can remember from Georgia in their national championship teams. But yeah,
I think he's gonna be a really good player. Nicholas
John Bosa and needed some help. They needed to revamp
that defensive line and get another good pass rusher on
the other side of Bosa, and they've been trying to
do that for years. They tried it with Leonard Floyd,
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they tried it with Chase Young, who you know had
some success, and they've been trying to find him a
complimentary piece for a number of years, so hopefully this
guy's the answer. The coaches are really excited about him,
and the staff is really excited about him. They were
trying to trade up to get him. Luckily he failed
to them at the spot they were in. So that's
been really good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And now they have picked forty three, seventy five and
one hundred day two of the draft. Obviously, as we said,
they got a lot of positions in need. Which route
would you most like to see them go?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well? Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line,
offense line, because I know that Kyle and John feel
comfortable with the guys they have, but I don't think
I do. I don't know if the fans do, but
you know, they know more than me and they know better.
But I just think depth is always an issue, and
guys consistently get hurt, and you can never have enough
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good offense blindman, and there are very few in the
National Football League and even fewer to go around to
other teams. So with Trent Williams, you know, obviously getting
up there in age, you know, getting a little banged up,
you got to have more guys that can be able
to play in case he gets banged up or you
get banged up somewhere else. You got to have guys
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that can come in there and play and contribute, and
I just don't think they have enough right now. They
lost Jalen Moore, who was their swing tackle, you know,
who did come in there and play when guys got hurt.
So I think that's a place you got to address. Obviously,
a lot of tackles went off the board late. The
Chiefs got to tackle at the end of the first round,
and I think that's something you got to really look
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forward to if you're San Francisco forty nine ers. So
obviously corners a position to need safety with Tella Noah
Hufanga going to Denver is a position at you're gonna
need to address. Mustafa's gonna gonna obviously beat the penciled
in starter, but I think you got to continue to
find death at those positions. Linebacker you lose. Green Law
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is a position they've drafted really well at and they
have to continue to draft well at. So those are
spots that I would be looking at if I'm in
San Francisco for nuns.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Let's go a little bit further North Seattle Seahawks, they're
talking about offensive line trench work Richard Gray Zabel out
of North Dakota State. Rumor has it he was slugging
a bunch of bush lights last night with his family.
This is a guy, you know, I know a lot
of teams liked and frankly, I was hoping he would
slide all the way down to the Lions. Obviously Seattle
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liked him. He's versatile. You know, he played tackle at
North Dakota State. He can play guard and I think
they're going to probably slot him in at guard in
the NFL. But how important was this pick for the
Seattle Sea Is they try to bolster that offensive line.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's really important. I mean, this is this is one
of those picks and you could hear John talking about it.
The last interior offensive lineman that was drafted this high
was Hutch and you know, he's an all time in
the Hall of Fame offensive lineman, you know, one of
the greatest to ever play. And so that's what you need.
And obviously that's really high expectations of big shoes to
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feel for Zabel, But I think they expect this guy
to be a really impactful player for a very long
time and early on, and I don't know if he's
going to be playing guard or center or tackle. I
think they're going to keep him inside, so either center
or guard. But this is where they had to go.
They had a rough time on the interior offensive line
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last year. They got a lot of pressure up the
middle or down the middle throughout the year. So being
able to solidify that with the quarterback who's less mobile
than Geno Smith was not that Sam Donald can't move
around and can't run when he has to, but he's
not known to be a mobile quarterback. He's more of
a pocket passer. Stand in there, set his feet and
deliver the football. And I think the better you can
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protect him, the more effective he's going to be, and
the more effective any quarterback is going to be if
you keep him clean. So it was really important for
them to create a strong pocket for Sam Darnold, and
I think that's what they did. That's what they're focused on.
And I'm very impressed with John and this pick. I
think this is a great pick. I think this is
a great player, and I think this player is going
to be really good with this franchise for a long time.
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It's not always the flashy picks that push organizations forward.
Sometimes it's the consistent, like hard working, the do right guys,
and you get enough of them in your organization, you
become a really complete team, like your Detroit Lions. That's
why they are a factor now. They've drafted really well
on the offensive and defensive line over the last couple
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of years and it's made them contenders year in and
year out. And I think that's what Seattle's going to
do now. They obviously have drafted defensive lineman consistently, and
now they draft the offensive line, and that's going to
help him for a long time.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So I love to pay well. You talked about being
a hard worker and being dedicated. He's a farmer in
his free time, rich, so you know you're gonna have
to have to find some landform to farm up there
in Seattle and moreover. You know, obviously he played it
in DSU this era of the transfer portal. He probably
could have gone anywhere, and I know there was a
lot of Power five schools that were interested in them,
but he was loyal to NDSU and stuck it out
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for the rest of his career. You know, I have
to believe that the Seattle Seahawks organization viewed that as
a huge positive because we see it time and time
again with these guys bouncing from team to team to team,
and I can imagine that the turnoff for GMS, And
I know you probably think that same way. How big
do you think it is for an organization to look
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at a player's loyalty to their college university that they're
sticking with for five years.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think it's important, but I think that each situation
is unique. You know, you look at Travis Hunter. He
left Jackson State to go to Colorado, but he left
because probably left. He left, sure because it's coaching staff,
So it's unique opportunities like that. Sometimes you run the
situation where literally the entire coaching staff leaves, like the
University of Washington, the staff left to go to University
of Alabama. You know that's going to affect kids. But
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I think there is a microscope on kids that are
leaving more than two three times from a university. You know,
it's a bad look. Obviously, it's in the news right
now about the guy, the quarterback from Tennessee wanting to
leave because he wasn't getting four million dollars in going
to UCLA and getting last. Things like that will be
red flags for teams because it's just unnecessary headaches. And
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there are a lot of there's a huge talent of
talent pool in college football, and unless you're at the
tivity top of that talent pool, you're not going to
get to be given the grace. And now, if you're
a monster and you're a guy that you know talent,
talent gives you more grace, Mitchell, the more talent, the
more grace, the more leash. But I think they are
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looking at that more kids that are like, hey, I'm
not the starter this year, so I transfer. Oh I
wasn't started there as. I think that's going to start
to be a red flag that teams look at, and
teams don't want to pursue kids like that, or at
least don't want to draft them early on in the draft.
They're going to wait a few rounds and let it
be somebody else's problem. Let it be somebody else, because
those are the kids that'll be holding out the disputing contracts,
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not coming to practice because of certain things. And I think, yeah,
that's definitely gonna be something teams have to have to
be where we now.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
The Seahawks, after trading DK Metcalf, sit with a plethora
of Day two Picksy, they're picking fifty to fifty two,
eighty two, and ninety two on day two. Obviously they
have a whole lot wide receiver. You know, Tyler Lockett
walks out the door. DK Metcalf is traded. Where do
you want to see the Seattle Seahawks go on Day two?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, I think they're going to have to continue to
look at offensive line obviously. I think they're good just
about everywhere else, you know. I think they feel good
with Cane nine and Sharbona at the running back spot.
I do think another receiver in the second round, I
mean between fifty fifty two and ninety eight, you know,
I think you're going to be able to find a
wide receiver that's that's capable of being a really good
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player in the National Football League. I think linebacker somewhere
where you can always look for death. I think they're
really good at d line right now now. But you know,
I'm sure Mike McDonald donald is of the understanding that
more is more and if you can never have enough
defensive lineman in pass rushers. So I'm sure if there's
a guy there that they can't miss on, they're going
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to take him. But I think right now they're going
to just pick best available. I think they continue to
go off into the line. But I think if there's
a guy there that is a pass rusher, our corner,
or somebody that they just feel like they cannot miss on,
a guy they cannot pass on. If Will Johnson's did it,
I think you take him because I think he's a
guy that had a first round grade. I think they're
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saying he has some chronic issues with his knee is
why he fell out of the first round. But I
think in the second round, if you're looking at a
guy like that who was considered a top ten talent
majority of his career, you got to take a flyer
on that. He's stare at fifty.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think he's I'm right there with you. I love
the best player available approach, especially for the sea Ars
with this amount of picks. I think so many draft
analysts and you know, Twitter analysts, whatever you want to
call them, they get so caught up in the positional
value of who's being drafted. They look at a team's
need and said, oh, you know, you need a defensive
end and you drafted a safety, and they don't sit
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back and analyze the player, you know, I mean, you
don't want to sit there and reach. These are these
organizations that these organizations that stay in this perpetual hamster
wheel of mediocrity are the ones that are reaching on
positions of need as opposed to taking the best player available.
And that's something we see with the Philadelphia Eagles every
single year that they're taking the best player available. They
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get Jahig Campbell again this year, who was widely considered
a top fifteen pick. I know he's got some injury issues,
but good organizations draft the best player available. So you know,
while these analysts are going to get caught up and
analyzing the position that was drafted, sit back and analyze
the player. The Seahawks have got an absolute war Chester
to Capitol in day two. We'll see what they do
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with it. Let's transition to Pete Carroll, your former coach
down now in Vegas. They take a stab. I know
he likes to hammer the rock, you know, I'm sure
he would love to have prime Marshawn Lynch in his backfield.
And he got the best thing he could next to that,
and that's Ashton Genty out of Boise State. A lot
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of folks question taking a running back that high at
number six overall, but obviously Pete Carroll and the Raiders
have a planned for him. What are your thoughts on
Ashton Genty to the Raiders at six.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think that's a perfect fit in a perfect game,
in a perfect place for Ashton Genty. I think it's
a great pick for Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas
Raiders because of the way he likes to coach and
it likes to gain play in a football game. He
loves to run the football, play action pass, he loves
to control the clock to keep the defense off the
field as long as possible, and I think that's what
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he's gonna do. That's been his recipe for success. That
was our recipe for success when we went to the
Super Bowl, when we won the Super Bowl and went
the next year, is Hey, we're not gonna throw it
a ton, but when we throw it, we're gonna take
care of the ball. We're not gonna turn it over
a ton. We're not gonna have a lot of risky plays.
We're gonna run the ball. Well, we're gonna control the clock.
We're gonna kinda three yards in a cloud of dust
our way through, pop some big ones, and then we're
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gonna play great defense. We're gonna play sound defense, gap control, gap, sound,
not letting footballs fly over our head. We're gonna make
them walk the ball on the field, be stingy in
the red zone, and they're gonna win football games. And
I think he has the running back that's a home
run hitter that hey, when there's a hole, there there's
a gap, there's a tackle to be broken. He's gonna
be able to get those extra yards. He's gonna be
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able to be durable enough to be at every down
back for him, He's shown that in college. He's shown
that he can be the guy that your team. And
then he has a veteran quarterback in Geno Smith that
he just got that he knows well, that he knows
can get the job done that he needs done to
win football games. And I think that's going to be
really important and really fun to watch. I think it's
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gonna be a great situation for Gino. I think it's
gonna be a great move for all parties involved in
Raiders fans should be excited.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I'm with you. The Las Vegas Raiders, Geno Smith should
be thrilled. I mean, they got weapons there in Las
Vegas for Gino. I mean, this Ashton genty draft pick
makes a ton of sense. And you got Brock Powers,
one of the rising stars. Arguably the best tight end
in football is rookie year right. I mean, and he's
only going to get better going into year two. Vegas
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might be a team to look out for going into
this season. Richard, I want to talk a little bit
about my Detroit Lions. They were picking them towards the
bottom of the draft, which it takes them getting used
to as a Detroit Lions fan, but I loved it, man.
I was able to watch the entire draft and we
saw how it fell to us. The Lions team, their organization,
they stood pat this free agency period. They didn't make
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a ton of splashy moves. They obviously got DJ Reid Well,
like we talked about, they're building from the ball out
and they got Tyleek Williams out of Ohio State. And
I know a lot of folks want the edge rusher.
They wanted Mike Green out of Marshall or the kid
out of Boston College, but TYLERK Williams. Brad Holmes seems
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to get it. You air on the side of drafting
from a high end college football program, and you did
just that with Ohio State. TYLERK Williams earned honorable mention
as freshman and sophomore year, and with third team All
Big Ten both of his junior and senior year. What
are your thoughts about this pick for the Detroit Lions
at defensive tackle TYLERK Williams.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I think, as always man, they make really solid picks,
guys that are going to play in the National Football
League for a long time, be really impactful. I thought
it was a great pick, a guy that's going to
help them again, not a flashy, splashy pick, but a
pick that fans will appreciate when you when you look
in December and January and their stuff the run and
the guys aren't able to run the ball in this defense,
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They're going to appreciate this pick. But I think Brad
Holmes has done a great job building this team. This
was the best talent he felt like was available in
terms of the health they're trying to get away from
drafting guys with health issues, our medical problems, our medical
red flags, and that has been apparent with the way
he's drafted. But I think this is a great pick.
The guy that's going to contribute for a long time,
(35:23):
a guy that's going to be really rock solid in
the middle of that defense, and I think the fans
will eventually be very excited.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Let's talk a little bit about the cornerbacks in this
year's draft. We didn't see a whole lot of them
getting taken in Round one. It was it was really
only too Jday Baron out of Texas. Who's that Swiss
Army knife. Jim Thorpe Award winner goes to the Broncos,
which is going to just build that secondary and that
defense of that Denver Bronco team even more, and Maxwell
Harrison goes to the Bills. Let's start with Jaday Baron.
(35:52):
How much do you like what the Denver Broncos are
doing here? It seems like, you know, everyone thought their
secondary was set. You got Pat, You've got all these
other guys and one of the best defenses in football,
but they're making their position of strength stronger. What are
your thoughts on Joday Baron to the Denver Broncos, I mean,
the rich get richer, and they're focusing on defense.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
They feel like that's the way they're gonna win football
games strong, having a strong defense and being able to
stop guys. They play a lot of Manda Man covers,
so the more the marry, the more guys got out
there to cover. Riley Moss had a really great season.
Obviously had that rough game against the Cincinnati Bengals and
t Higgins, but for overall, I think people understand certain
(36:34):
end the defensive player of the year, reigning defensive player
of the Year is going to be out there. He's
going to probably be on the team's best wide receiver,
and everybody else is going to be really impactful. I
think I don't know if they expect today Baron to
be on the outside or the inside, but he played
a number of positions and he can play inside, he
can play outside. He has the safety spot, so I'm
(36:56):
interested to see how they use him. But it's going
to be a really fun defense to watch this year.
They were fun to watch last year, but they're only
getting better. And then the Bills they address a position
to need.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Maxwell Harrison, you know, really rose up the draft boards
running a four to eight at the combine out of Kentucky.
They project him as a slot corner. Obviously, the Bills
need some help in the secondary. What do you think
of this pick for them? I think it's great. I mean,
they got banged up late in the season. They get
banged up at the corner spot just about every year
where they lose guys and lose starters. So this is
(37:29):
the guy I think they know can play and he
can play man and man, he can play zone, he
can play everything.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He's got a great set of hands. I think he's
gonna be a really good football player. But we'll see.
Buffalo's a tough place to play dB with the weather
and inclement weather, and they've drafted corners early on before
that haven't necessarily panned out the way they wanted him to.
But I think this is one that's going to pan
out well as you look at this position. I mean,
who is your favorite dB in this draft class? Was
it today, Baron?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I know we already talked about Will Johnson. Let's leave
Travis Hunter out of this conversation for the time being,
because I think he takes the cake on that Who's
your favorite dB? In this class.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, Will Johnson was my favorite dB. You know, I
thought he played the game the right way. He plays
with an understanding, great feet, great instincts, great hands. But
unfortunately he didn't run well and he has the injury concerned.
But he's my favorite porter in the draft, and he's
still available, and I think he's going to have a
great NFL career. I could be wrong. I haven't seen
the medical report on him, but he's the guy that
(38:27):
I had high hopes for.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Let's talk winners and losers here as round one concluded.
And I know it's hard to say. We're all armchair
you know analysts here, but who's your best team? I said,
round one, all things consider, who do you think took
the cake as the winner of the draft?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I hate doing that. I don't know, That's all I
can't say on that, because you know, you got bad
teams picking really good players, and you've got great teams
picking players late in the draft. They're still great teams.
You know, the Kennessee Chiefs they get worse, No, they didn't.
They're still They've been in the super Bowl the last
few years, what for the last five years, and they'll
likely be there again. The Philadelphia Eagles got great, but
(39:07):
the Jacksonville jack Wars got Travis Hunter. Did they get better? Sure,
you know they picked up a great player, high caliber player,
but they have the other things to work out. There's
a reason their coach got fired. There's a reason they're
picking this high in the draft because they have some
things to fix. But draft picks, I hate when they
do winners and losers of draft. They are winners and
losers of the offseason because you really won't know until
(39:30):
you line up on Sundays. You know, there's been Super
Bowl champions named in the off season that have top
picked top five the last The next year, you know, hey,
they won the off season, But why are they picking
top five again? Because they didn't win anything offseason? Isn't
isn't a record captist out a time who lines up
on Sundays for seventeen weeks and plays well? And I
(39:51):
think we won't know that. We won't even know how
some of these rookies will play until they line it
up in training camp. So I've got no comment on
who won or who lost. I like a lot of
these picks. I like the Seahawks pick, I like the Niners, pick.
I love Travis Hunter going to Jacksonville. We'll see what
the quarterbacks Jackson Dart and cam Ward. We'll see how
cam Ward does in Tennessee. I like Mason Graham in Cleveland.
(40:14):
I like Dual Carter in with the Giants, you know,
with Dexter Lawrence and Cavon Thibodeau. I think that's going
to be a really formidable front that's gonna grek hav
It four a lot of teams.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
I tend to agree with you this winner and loser
segment here rewind back to twenty twenty three. My Detroit
Lions were considered the losers of the draft when they
took Jamiir Gibbs, Jack Campbell, Samuel Porter, and Brian Branch
and we see how that critique panned out. Richard, again,
my favorite time of year. Round one is a rap
I know you're going to be presenting Round two pick
(40:49):
for the Seattle Seahawks tonight. I know you're excited about it.
I will let you sign us off, my friend. Well,
I appreciate you, Mitchell. This is a great time of
the year. I hope you guys are enjoying and enjoying
the team. The guys your team picked. I think this
is gonna be a great day. I look forward to
announcing the Seahawks pick. I think it's gonna be fun.
Hopefully it's a great guy and a great player. But
(41:10):
I appreciate you guys for joining us as always. You
could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us.
We sure to appreciate it. Have a beautiful, blessed day.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Enjoyed the draft, the volume
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