August 29, 2019 • 32 mins
Ron and Carolina are joined by a brain scientist to find out why dance is all we need.
Credits:Ron Burgundy: Host, Writer, Executive Producer
Carolina Barlow: Co-Host, Writer, and Producer.
Producers: Whitney Hodack, Jack O'Brien, Miles Gray, and Nick Stumpf
Executive Producer: Mike Farah
Consulting Producer: Andrew Steele
Coordinating Producer: Colin MacDougall
Associate Producers: Anna Hossnieh and Sophie Lichterman
Writer: Jake Fogelnest
Production Coordinator: Hannah Jacobson
This episode was Engineered, Mixed and Edited by: Nick Stumpf
Music Clearance by Suzanne Coffman
Guest Expert: Dr. Marc Milstein
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Gromberg podcast. Hey listeners, Yeah, you guys, the good guys.
Whether you're sitting in a palace or a hut or
a spaceship, I'm talking to you asking the questions that
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you've been afraid to ask, the real tricky stuff like
why do tears fall when I watched Terms of Endearment?
Why do I giggle when I'm tickled by the feathers
of my exotic birds? Why does laughter come when I
watched Carolina fall down steps four years ago? But Carolina,
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we laughed so hard in front of you. But also
after you left, there were some great imitations in the
office of what you look like. I actually got a
concussion and I actually had questions like why do I
forget my nightmares? Why do I remember what my granny
had inside her blue robe? What did your granny have
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inside her blue robe? Tits in a butt? She flashed
me by accident. It was a long time ago, by accident.
What happened, Well, I was a young kid. I was
just taking the trash out and she was grabbing the mail,
and she looked at me, slowly opened her robe and
then shut it and went inside that I don't think
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that was by accident then sounds like she just flashed you.
Mm hmm. Well let's add that to my list of questions.
Why did my grandmother flash me? Why are people color blind?
Why does Baxter have night tares? So I'm sorry, who
are these questions for? Because there's a lot of them.
I've got another question? Why does it take Carolina so
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long to get the point? Today we're talking to a
real life brain scientist to get all those answers, and
then some we'll learn the inner workings of the mind,
that dark, cavernous space we rarely go. We use our
minds to think, but we never use our minds to
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think about our minds. I don't know. Isn't that what
therapy is or self help books are for. I think
we actually do think about the inner workings of our minds,
and I think we don't. And it is my show.
You know that phrase, it's not brain science, Well this
is brain science, actually the phrases. It's not rocket science. Carolina.
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Can I talk to you for a second over here? Yeah? Sure, okay,
thank you. What is your deal, lady? I'm just trying
to make sure what you're saying is accurate and coming
off as a real you know what, Ron, I'm sorry.
It's just that you're sorry. Yes, can we just make
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a pact that for the rest of the day, whatever
I say, Okay, whatever you think of it, whatever your
judgment is going to be, you just agree with me
a right, even if you think, oh, it's so dumb,
run or it's so weird, or oh look, I have
a bookshelf and I know how to use a compass
um and if I done, is this gonna affect my salary?
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It absolutely will affect yourself. Great, okay, okay, fine, just
go with the flow. All right, I'll just agree today.
What's the name of the podcast? But then bury podcast
it's not called the Carolina Podcast. Is no need because
it's my podcast, and just support me. I want to
feel supported. You're supported. I'm gonn support Okay to our listeners.
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Sorry for the pause. Carolina and I had a meeting
about accounting. Yeah, just a quick meaning to discuss some disagreements.
Today we're sitting down with a brain scientist, Dr Milstein.
He's smarter than almost all of us. I promise there
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is a strong chance that if you're listening to this,
he's smarter than you. And if that pisces. You off,
I get it made me a little angry just thinking
about it. I mean, he's not smarter than me. God,
I'm getting angry again. All right, Ron, try to be
a professional, you know what. Nick cut to commercial. I've
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got to go scream this out and we're back. You're
listening to the Ron Burgundy podcast. And I'm on a
mood stabilizer. So I feel much better. Um here we
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are with a real life brainiac in the studio. Dr Milstein,
the brain scientist. He knows what's inside your brain. Pretty
crazy stuff. How are you, Dr Millhouse, I'm doing good.
It's actually el Stein, but thank you, thanks for having me.
You know what I wrote that incorrectly? Doctor? What exactly
is your official title? So I am a scientist, and
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so what I do now is I take a lot
of the latest cutting edge studies, things that are being discovered,
and analyze them and try to get them out to
doctors and people who want to know about how to
live better, how to optimize their brain, keep it healthy.
So you're not a physician, no, not a physician, scientist,
but if like I had a heart attack right now,
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you could save You have some medical training, you could
save my life. I would probably call nine and maybe
attempts CPR. All right, have you ever taken a CPR class?
I did? I did? Yes in college, Carolina. Have you yeah?
You asked me too? Okay, good? Um, let me ask
you this question. I know there's a lot of information
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on the amount of sleep we get, right, So why
do I need fourteen hours of sleep every night? Is that?
Do you get fourteen hours of sleep at least? At
least that's a lot of sleep. That's uh, you might
want to would you say that's a borderline too much?
I would say that would be a concern. Oh, I
thought I was doing great. Yet You'll always say I
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need to make sure I get my fourteen and I'll
say I nailed it last night. I got sixteen and
a half. So that's not that's not the way to go, right.
So sleep is definitely very important for the brain, but
we're looking at more the right amount as opposed to
too much or too little. So fourteen would be you
want to check in with your personal doctor. So during sleep,
what does the brain do? It's recharging, regenerating, just literally resting.
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So it's it's actually amazing what we've learned is that
it's not just resting, it's actually going through almost like
a program, a sequence. And so one thing that's amazing
is that when you're asleep, your brain actually shrinks down
to about sixty its current size and squeezes out of
the brain cells trash, talks, and waste, and it squeezes
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all that out into that empty space. And then where
does that go? So then fluid comes up from your
spinal cord and washes your brain. So every night you
have a brainwash. So that's why it's so important to sleep.
And then that waste in trash. This is true. I
can show you a picture. This is yeah, this is
this is cutting edge, just getting into the medical textbooks.
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So the brain shrinks, sprinks, dowwn. It sounds like a
horror movie, but it's real. Is there any chance that
when the brain expands back that it would go it
would start to explode out of your head. Uh, that's
not a concern. No, But but it's a it's a
dynamic process. It's pulse eights and it squeezes out all
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that trash and toxins and waste out of curiosity, what
if you have a spinal cord injury, would that affect
the process? That's a great question. So that is a concern,
is that anyone who has a spinal cord. Why was
her question so great and mine wasn't so great? I
should have said that you had That was a great
question to go ahead, both great. Um, The concern can
be that if that fluid is not making its way
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to the brain, that the washing might not be as
as effective, and so you could keep toxins inside your body.
So what we're learning is is that even things like dementia,
which is very complex, or someone losing their memory, that's
why sleep is so important, is because that build up
of toxins and trash, we need to wash it out
every night while we're sleeping. God, is this why there's
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a new trend to drink your own spinal cord fluid.
I haven't heard that. I think that would not be
a good idea, because I I could have sworn that's
you know a lot of professional athletes are now drinking
their own spinal cord fluid. Yeah, I haven't heard that,
but that it would not be a good idea. Okay,
And so during sleep time, what is the average man's
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risk for being incepted. Incepted meaning like the movie inceptional inception.
Actually haven't seen that movie, so you mean you mean
someone sneaking into your brain and planting like bad ideas
inside your head A lot of times when Ron makes
a mistake, he says, oh, I was incepted, right right.
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The statistics on that I'm not aware of. I would
say they're extremely low to zero. But I would say that, well,
what we can learn while we're sleeping is pretty interesting
because inception is based on a true story. So I
don't know if it's said that, but i'd like doctor,
I'd like you to tell that to Chris Nolan. Uh.
One area though, the is you can there's some interesting
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research you might be able to learn while you're sleep.
Maybe a word here, you might process it like a
foreign language or so that that's CPR foreign language. I
wish that was true. But it seems like maybe you
could learn a word here, and then it would be
fun to take CPR and a foreign language, because then
you'd kill two birds with one stone. That's a good idea.
I popped it on your list. So you're having a dream,
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Let's say you die in your dream. Does that kill you?
Like in Freddy Krueger's Nightmare on Elm Street. No, that
does not that does not kill you. No, if you
die in your dream, yes, so yeah, your dream are
not not based on what happens in your and what's
going to happen to you in your day to day.
That is a relief. That is an absolute relief. Um.
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The other day, I forgot to have my cup of
morning Joe, right, and wouldn't you know it, I punched
a hole through this wall. Uh what what the heck
is that about not getting that morning caffeine. Yes, well,
caffeine is something that is very helpful in you know,
it wakes you up. People can help them with their mood.
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So it's possible that if you had a bit of
a mood sweet had a bit of a mood swing
about your your morning morning coffee. That because I'm getting
fourteen hours of sleep and it takes me, what would
you say, another three hours to get out of my
groggy state. Yeah. I don't usually understand what you're talking
about until three cups of coffee. Yes, but you've said
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some really sweet things, and then after coffee, you say,
I become a normal rationally exactly, doctor, When you scan
my brain, what color is it? So is it necessarily
a color? It depends what type of scanning you're using.
But you're usually looking at things like white matter and
gray matter, so usually would come up in a scan
as white or gray. But there are ways that now
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they do scans where there's colors that represent different parts
of the brain or different connections. So there's the computer
assigns colors to different parts of you. If you scan
someone's brain, can you tell if they're a white hat
or a black hat. That's a term we just learned
in cybersecurity, where black hat is a bad hacker in
a white hat. Yes, pick thank you. That was a
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good question, right, that was a good question. I don't
believe sometin I don't think you can do that. I mean,
if I was in a bad mood and you scan
my brain, would it be red? Because angry? So when
you're certain moods, certain parts of your brain, blood flows
to that part of the brain, and so that you
can pick that up in a brain scan and say, oh,
this person is angry or that they're more in a
calm state. So those types of things you can't see
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on a brain scan. Um Carolina here is a pathological liar. Okay,
so what does her brain look like? I normally would
disagree with this, but I made a pact with run earlier,
so yeah, let's go with it. What does the brain
look like that somebody who's a pathological liar, in other words,
Carolina's brain? What would it look like? You know, on
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one hand, we learn a lot from brain scans, but
it's very difficult to just look at a brain skin
and make that sort of conclusion that this person is
a pathological liar. Um. But our ability to control parts
of our brain, our emotions, uh, it really comes from
this part of our our brain right here behind our forehead,
our prefrontal cortex. So that would be something that could
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be investigated. Is the size and the strength of that
part of the brain. Should you get a brain scan
like once a week, just to stay on top of
things that would not be recommended? Okay? Alright, if someone
say Ron may have exaggerated something, here we go again,
and he highly highly doubtful, go ahead. Then he believed
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that it was the truth. So some liars believe their
own lives eventually, is that from a deep seated sort
of route that they keep using or by the way,
she's referring to the fact that I won the Heisman Trophy.
You see, that is a hard it's a hard Southern
Methodist university. So something that's really interesting about memory and
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what we think is reality is that every time. So
when you have a memory, when you have an experience,
you make when I ran for a hundred and forty
seven yards when that's Baylor right, right, when something like
the cotton Bull, when that memory that memory. So if
we go back to what happened in was it nineteen
the moment that happened, your brain made a connection. Every
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time you rethink of it, you revisit that connection. We
think of my seventy eight yard touchdown run and you
win the game in overtime form the connection, yes, And
so every time you revisit it, you actually reformed the connection.
So you'll know just when people retell stories, the stories change,
but they believe what they're telling you because they're revisiting
the most recent version of the connection as opposed to
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what happened in the moment they made the connection. So
that's why the right that's they remember their memory. That's
why witness testimony is very flawed. That's why two people
experienced the same event years later, they have very different,
very different accounts, very different accounts of it. Yes, so
memory is very strange. It's not really you're not revisiting
what actually happened, but the last time you thought of it.
Because some people come to me and say, no, you
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didn't run for seven or seventy two yard touchdown. You
ran a sixty eight yard touchdown. And then a lot
of people come up to me and say, you were
never at that game, you never played college football, and
that's their memory of it, of what happened. That's true. Uh,
where in my brain are my taste buds? Oh, that's
a good question. So your taste buds are actually in
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your mouth, on your and many of them actually in
your nose. So when you're tasting things and you plug
your nose, uh, you have a very hard time tasting.
Most of taste sensation is actually through the nose. The
nose is actually connected very closely to the brain, so
the sensory of smell is right here below your nose.
So is that why a lot of the world's top chefs,
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when they're you know, sampling their their dish before it's
about to be plated, will shove a portion of it
up their nose to taste it. So the nose I'm
not sure if they do that, but what I do
know is that the nose is very connected to the
brain and the sense of smell, and so it's right there.
Your your brain is right here at the top of
your nose, and that's the chemicals from the food. Actually,
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they go in the air and they attach right there,
and that your brain makes sense. How could I train
my taste buds, well, my brain to like lettuce, to
tell my taste buds, Oh you love lettuce. I guess
you could make an association lettuce. That's a positive thing,
something that you like about something else. Anytime you eat lettuce,
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let us, I'll think of the joy of what I won,
the Heisman troph You could do that then that that moment,
eat more lettuce? Yeah. Um, do you do experiments on mice?
I have? How cute are they? I think they're pretty cute.
They can be they can't be cute? Yeah, and so
I when I was sometimes we're about to, you know,
hook a mouse up to an electrode, Like he's too cute.
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I can't do it, um, there's death, shove a sensor
up its butt or something like that. You know, I
love animals, and it's it's a it's and I currently
don't do any animal research, but I always try to
remind myself of the greater good for humans. But but
at the same time, it's it's tough. I'm gonna be honest,
right right right, m hmm. Well and what was your
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what was a successful ron just thinking about a mouse? Yeah, okay,
the mouse I met okay, um, go ahead, sorry, Caroline,
what were you saying, give me, give me a chase
to compose myself? What's this successful mouse experiment that you've
done where mice have taught us about something? Uh, so
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specifically that I've done or or anyone has done that
was interesting to you. Well, wow, there's there's so what
we talked about the brainwash that was initially discovered in
animals like mind and then it was and then moved
up into understanding humans. So, uh, there is quite a
bit of what we understand starts at the level of
so things starting dishes essentially with cells, and then if
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that is understood, then it goes to the next level.
Oftentimes something like a worm or a fruit fly, and
then it moves up up the ladder until we can
make sure that this is valid information that can be helpful. Wait,
so you're doing tests on fruit flies. Yeah, I used
to do fruit fly research. Yeah, that's a lot of
our genetic studies come, believe it or not, from mantalizing flies.
And has anyone ever cloned to fly before? Yes, so
that that that has happened, so that that's where they
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So they've cloned sheep and things like that. But um,
that's those are tricky experiments because there's some issues there
about how healthy the clone is. Right, dr Sometimes I
lose myself to dance. How can I stop that? I
would not stop that, I would you know. They looked
at a study where they found that essentially one of
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the best things you can do for your brain danceing.
They actually took people who are older and they said,
what can we do to make these people have younger brains?
And they tried all different activities, exercise, you name it.
Nothing was better than dancing because it's a combination of
physical and creative, physical, mental, social thing, feel good, it's
it's it's everything you want to do for your brain
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in one activity. So don't don't give that up. So
dance like a fool. Dance like a fool. I won't
feel so guilty when I you know, in the middle
of it's been kind of distracting airplane flight. I just
stand up and like it. That's boogie. Yes, we're heading
to San Jose. People NonStop to San Jose. Let's dance
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the whole time. They usually asked me to sit down.
When I are the song bad Girls by Donna Summers,
I have to dance, Okay, I have no choice. Is
my brain a mere servant for Donna's beats? How do
I get free of her control? Or what? I guess
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you would argue, don't don't free yourself. So there's two
things I think that you were talking about, which is
one is why why when you hear a beat do
you want to move? Specifically Donna Summer, Donna Summer specifically?
Are you talking about earworms? This idea that of song
you can't get out of your head? How do you
get out of your head? That's sort of the question.
Or why is Donna summing? I would never put am
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in my ear? What you know, there's a term that
you know when you have a song stuck in your
head and yeah, yeah, yeah, that's they call that an
earworm and why does that happen? Um, So, there's been
these really interesting studies where they found that your brain
loves to predict what's going to happen next in a song,
and a lot of these songs that are so catchy,
they're not quite predictable, and so your brain is constantly
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replaying that little piece over and over again to try
to make sense of why it wasn't quite exactly what
your brain expected, and it goes on a loop. So
your brain finds comfort in predicting the next pattern. Yes, something.
Your brain loves to predict the next thing. That's why, Uh,
you know, when you're driving work to home, home to
work and you say, how did I get here? Your
brain loves that predictability. It loves to go auto pilot. Yeah,
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it loves to go into autopilot because the brain gets
a chance to to check out. Essentially, Yeah, it goes
into what we call autopilot or habit mode. And so
when something is surprising or knew, your brain can become
fixated on it. Now, I wonder what GPS is that
affecting the brain's ability to remember how to get home.
There's some They did this study with taxi drivers who
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had to learn London and it seems like there's something
good about finding your way using directions and it actually
can be helpful to the brain. That it's possible we
could be losing that predictability. This makes me think of monogamy.
So how because the airline is not she's never been
in a monogamous relationship in her life. Continue, Yeah, thus
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the song bad Girls. Yeah, do you think the brain
likes predictability? Obviously, So if you're in a monogamous relationship,
get to the point, geez, do you think that the
brain likes the monogamy? But also it obviously when you
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have a song stuck in your head, likes the new
thing that they can't predict. So how does that affect
monogamy versus a new person. So love and the brain
is something that's been analyzed quite a bit in the
last few years, and so there is this there's different
stages of love. There's early love where you're excited, it's
new and exciting, and then it kind of calms down.
There's kind of the sweatpants phase of love where people
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get more comfortable and that can be a good thing,
but it can get a little monotonous. And so what
is often recommended based upon the brain is that keep
doing new and surprising things. Go new places, see a
new movie, go to a new restaurant, because that element
of surprise causes dopamine release in the brain and actually
helps keep the relationship exciting. So, dr, I'm a guy
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who likes to go with my gut. You know, I
want it, I got it, you like my hair, just
bought it. What does my brain have to do with
my gut instinct? So that's that's really one of the
most exciting areas of brain science right now, which is
that what's happening down here in your connection is this
connection and so a big part of that is that
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you have trillions of bacteria living in your gut, and
those bacteria are releasing chemicals and we all have different
types of bacteria. Those different chemicals can stimulate UH nerves
that sends signals to the brain. So so the idea
of the gut instinct, there is a real connection that
you should listen to that. So we're not sure yet
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if you should be completely listening to your gut, but
your gut is sending signals to your brain. So one
are you? What do you like chocolate? I'm a chocoholic. Chocoholic,
so people whore chocoholics oftentimes have certain types of bacteria
in their gut. They're actually sending signals to their brain saying,
go get some chocolate. Our mood, our anxiety, are feelings
of stress complex. But what's happening in our gut Bacteria
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send signals and can impact how we're feeling. So it's
a really we wouldn't think that, but what's happening down
here in our gut has this really fascinating relationship with
our brain. So when you feel your stomach drop, or
you feel that sinking feeling of you're scared or you're anxious,
or you have to go to work, um you, that's
connected to what what are you? What are you? Sometimes
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you have a sinking feeling, you're good a little bit,
then just eat some chocolate. So that that's your advice
for literally everything, Well, is it bad? It's no, it's
good advice. Actually, it's positive reinforcement at the very least.
So we used to always think that, for example, if
you're stressed or worried, that that was happening from your
brain and then you would get an upset stomach. And
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that's true, that's still very true. But now we realize
it's a two way street. So it can happen is
that your gut can be off, and then that can
set signals to your brain that make you nervous or worry.
So it's this idea that there are these two organs
are talking to each other, and so nutrition affects our
moods a lot. Yeah, So that's what we're learning is
what we eat can have an impact. It's very It's
not the only thing that impacts, but what we eat
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determines what types of bacteria live there, and then what
type of bacteria there can impact how your mood is. Um,
I forget everyone's birthday. That's just me. I've never remembered
a birthday in my life. How can I remember one?
I just need to remember one, my own. How do
you remember your own birthday? Remembering your own birthday? Usually
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when things are repeated over and over again, they get deep,
it gets locked in. Uh, writing it down and revisiting
it can be helpful. So putting it on a post
it note. The more we see things making it emotional.
Maybe you can't say your birthday is every Friday. I've
had to wish you a happy birthday. Well, he loves
the attention of the cake and the candles. I've gotten
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used to it to have my birthday every Friday, and
that's the repeated behavior again. Right, my brain loves it.
But subsequently I've actually forgotten the actual date of my
own birthday. Huh. Well, fascinating. Yes. Um, so will we
ever develop powers of esp brains? That's a good question. Um,
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I would say not in the near future. No, in
terms of evolution, like next year, not No, not not
next not in not and not any time in in
evolution is very very slow. That's a shame. But we
know so little about the brain that there is, you know,
a lot of hope for understanding more and tapping into
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things and everyone you hear this like we only use
x percent of our brain, right, what would you you know?
That's what that's that's considered one of the biggest myths
in brain science. That's based upon this idea that you're
only using your brain, but you're really using your whole brain.
You're using that That's what I've always said, you're using
the whole thing. But your ability to learn more is
almost limitless. Yeah, pretty much, even with age. Even with age,
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many parts of learning actually in the ability to learn
new things, to analyze things can get better with age.
So you can teach a new dog old tricks. Yes,
the brain is trick constantly rebuilding, remodeling. So let's say
you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yes, we're
teaching around some sayings. Yes, what was the other saying
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we were working on? You said, um, this isn't my
first rodeo, but you said my first merry go round? Yes,
sayings are fun. Is that a sign of intelligence? Uh?
I guess referencing things? Yeah? What about if you can
name like all the teams in the NFL, Is that
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a sign of intelligence? Uh? You know, intelligence is many
different things. But recall memory, that's a that's a part
of it, part of intelligence. But many different things were
involved in intelligence. So he here's a big question. It's
been put out there by certain pundits that our current
president is cuckoo. Where do you stand on that? On
your on your analysis from afar? Is he a crazy man? Um?
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You know? Or is he crazy like a fox? So?
Is that the saying I think that is the same.
I think you're right. Usually so psychologists, which is different
than what I do. I think they're uh, they try
not to analyze people unless they've met them. That's that's
essentially the credo, and that that makes it makes sense
making that assessment. And so even though I'm a pretty
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good judge of a character from afar right right right,
I'll often walk into a crowded room and just go,
I don't like you, bozo narcissist anyway. Yeah, sorry to
keep interrupting. No, no, no, those but those terms like
narcissist or or psychopath. We throw those terms around, but
really to actually, um, I know if somebody truly is
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that term in general, you have to you have to
sit down and talk to them really and have a
professional really analyze them. Mhm okay, well, doctor, thank you
so much for spending time with us here in the
Ron Burgundy Podcast. We have learned so much. You've you've
put to rest a lot of questions that we had,
and uh we wish you continued success. Oh, thank you
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for having me. I really appreciate being here, and we'll
have more right after this commercial bake break, My brain
is tired on Ron Suargundy podcast. Welcome back to the
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Ron Burgundy Podcast. Here are my final thoughts, Caroline, I
have to say something now that Dr Millstein is gone,
now that he's out of here, I just I have
to say something controversial. I really didn't think he was
that smart, really, and I think some of his words
were made up. I'm serious. He just he seemed a
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little smug, don't you think, I mean, does he think
he's smarter than us? I think he's smarter than us.
I mean he's a professional scientist. Wow, you think he's
smarter than me? After all I've taught you? I'm sorry,
what what do you think you've taught me? What have
I taught you? Yeah? I mean, um, let me think. Um,
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how about how to play green sleeves on the jazz flute,
how to take a horse bath, how to wash under
my car, how to wash eight mildly aggressive Doberman's um?
What else? Oh, how to shine fifteen candelabras, how to
wire money to an offshore Okay, let's stop, let's stop
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right there. I mean, yes, that's true. You did teach
me some of those things, and that's something a brain
scientist wouldn't know how to do right. Let's face it,
You're right, yeah, those are some skills that you don't learn.
I mean, we should hand that guy the garden hose
and put him in my backyard with the domeriman. See
if he can even wash one of them, because I'm
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telling you, those animals they hate smarty pants. If they
can detect a smarty pants in the room, they will
go for the jugular. All right. For my listeners out there,
thank you for your business. It was a pleasure as always.
And to any know it alls listening out there, I
hope today taught you that you don't know at all.
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Until next time, Ron Bernie stand, oh you bad, no,
(32:03):
your bead No, you're such a dirty, bad ground
Oh Gromberg podcast. Hey listeners, Yeah, you guys, the good guys.
Whether you're sitting in a palace or a hut or
a spaceship, I'm talking to you asking the questions that
(00:24):
you've been afraid to ask, the real tricky stuff like
why do tears fall when I watched Terms of Endearment?
Why do I giggle when I'm tickled by the feathers
of my exotic birds? Why does laughter come when I
watched Carolina fall down steps four years ago? But Carolina,
(00:44):
we laughed so hard in front of you. But also
after you left, there were some great imitations in the
office of what you look like. I actually got a
concussion and I actually had questions like why do I
forget my nightmares? Why do I remember what my granny
had inside her blue robe? What did your granny have
(01:04):
inside her blue robe? Tits in a butt? She flashed
me by accident. It was a long time ago, by accident.
What happened, Well, I was a young kid. I was
just taking the trash out and she was grabbing the mail,
and she looked at me, slowly opened her robe and
then shut it and went inside that I don't think
(01:25):
that was by accident then sounds like she just flashed you.
Mm hmm. Well let's add that to my list of questions.
Why did my grandmother flash me? Why are people color blind?
Why does Baxter have night tares? So I'm sorry, who
are these questions for? Because there's a lot of them.
I've got another question? Why does it take Carolina so
(01:47):
long to get the point? Today we're talking to a
real life brain scientist to get all those answers, and
then some we'll learn the inner workings of the mind,
that dark, cavernous space we rarely go. We use our
minds to think, but we never use our minds to
(02:08):
think about our minds. I don't know. Isn't that what
therapy is or self help books are for. I think
we actually do think about the inner workings of our minds,
and I think we don't. And it is my show.
You know that phrase, it's not brain science, Well this
is brain science, actually the phrases. It's not rocket science. Carolina.
(02:33):
Can I talk to you for a second over here? Yeah? Sure, okay,
thank you. What is your deal, lady? I'm just trying
to make sure what you're saying is accurate and coming
off as a real you know what, Ron, I'm sorry.
It's just that you're sorry. Yes, can we just make
(02:53):
a pact that for the rest of the day, whatever
I say, Okay, whatever you think of it, whatever your
judgment is going to be, you just agree with me
a right, even if you think, oh, it's so dumb,
run or it's so weird, or oh look, I have
a bookshelf and I know how to use a compass
um and if I done, is this gonna affect my salary?
(03:15):
It absolutely will affect yourself. Great, okay, okay, fine, just
go with the flow. All right, I'll just agree today.
What's the name of the podcast? But then bury podcast
it's not called the Carolina Podcast. Is no need because
it's my podcast, and just support me. I want to
feel supported. You're supported. I'm gonn support Okay to our listeners.
(03:43):
Sorry for the pause. Carolina and I had a meeting
about accounting. Yeah, just a quick meaning to discuss some disagreements.
Today we're sitting down with a brain scientist, Dr Milstein.
He's smarter than almost all of us. I promise there
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is a strong chance that if you're listening to this,
he's smarter than you. And if that pisces. You off,
I get it made me a little angry just thinking
about it. I mean, he's not smarter than me. God,
I'm getting angry again. All right, Ron, try to be
a professional, you know what. Nick cut to commercial. I've
(04:26):
got to go scream this out and we're back. You're
listening to the Ron Burgundy podcast. And I'm on a
mood stabilizer. So I feel much better. Um here we
(04:47):
are with a real life brainiac in the studio. Dr Milstein,
the brain scientist. He knows what's inside your brain. Pretty
crazy stuff. How are you, Dr Millhouse, I'm doing good.
It's actually el Stein, but thank you, thanks for having me.
You know what I wrote that incorrectly? Doctor? What exactly
is your official title? So I am a scientist, and
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so what I do now is I take a lot
of the latest cutting edge studies, things that are being discovered,
and analyze them and try to get them out to
doctors and people who want to know about how to
live better, how to optimize their brain, keep it healthy.
So you're not a physician, no, not a physician, scientist,
but if like I had a heart attack right now,
(05:34):
you could save You have some medical training, you could
save my life. I would probably call nine and maybe
attempts CPR. All right, have you ever taken a CPR class?
I did? I did? Yes in college, Carolina. Have you yeah?
You asked me too? Okay, good? Um, let me ask
you this question. I know there's a lot of information
(05:57):
on the amount of sleep we get, right, So why
do I need fourteen hours of sleep every night? Is that?
Do you get fourteen hours of sleep at least? At
least that's a lot of sleep. That's uh, you might
want to would you say that's a borderline too much?
I would say that would be a concern. Oh, I
thought I was doing great. Yet You'll always say I
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need to make sure I get my fourteen and I'll
say I nailed it last night. I got sixteen and
a half. So that's not that's not the way to go, right.
So sleep is definitely very important for the brain, but
we're looking at more the right amount as opposed to
too much or too little. So fourteen would be you
want to check in with your personal doctor. So during sleep,
what does the brain do? It's recharging, regenerating, just literally resting.
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So it's it's actually amazing what we've learned is that
it's not just resting, it's actually going through almost like
a program, a sequence. And so one thing that's amazing
is that when you're asleep, your brain actually shrinks down
to about sixty its current size and squeezes out of
the brain cells trash, talks, and waste, and it squeezes
(07:02):
all that out into that empty space. And then where
does that go? So then fluid comes up from your
spinal cord and washes your brain. So every night you
have a brainwash. So that's why it's so important to sleep.
And then that waste in trash. This is true. I
can show you a picture. This is yeah, this is
this is cutting edge, just getting into the medical textbooks.
(07:23):
So the brain shrinks, sprinks, dowwn. It sounds like a
horror movie, but it's real. Is there any chance that
when the brain expands back that it would go it
would start to explode out of your head. Uh, that's
not a concern. No, But but it's a it's a
dynamic process. It's pulse eights and it squeezes out all
(07:43):
that trash and toxins and waste out of curiosity, what
if you have a spinal cord injury, would that affect
the process? That's a great question. So that is a concern,
is that anyone who has a spinal cord. Why was
her question so great and mine wasn't so great? I
should have said that you had That was a great
question to go ahead, both great. Um, The concern can
be that if that fluid is not making its way
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to the brain, that the washing might not be as
as effective, and so you could keep toxins inside your body.
So what we're learning is is that even things like dementia,
which is very complex, or someone losing their memory, that's
why sleep is so important, is because that build up
of toxins and trash, we need to wash it out
every night while we're sleeping. God, is this why there's
(08:24):
a new trend to drink your own spinal cord fluid.
I haven't heard that. I think that would not be
a good idea, because I I could have sworn that's
you know a lot of professional athletes are now drinking
their own spinal cord fluid. Yeah, I haven't heard that,
but that it would not be a good idea. Okay,
And so during sleep time, what is the average man's
(08:44):
risk for being incepted. Incepted meaning like the movie inceptional inception.
Actually haven't seen that movie, so you mean you mean
someone sneaking into your brain and planting like bad ideas
inside your head A lot of times when Ron makes
a mistake, he says, oh, I was incepted, right right.
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The statistics on that I'm not aware of. I would
say they're extremely low to zero. But I would say that, well,
what we can learn while we're sleeping is pretty interesting
because inception is based on a true story. So I
don't know if it's said that, but i'd like doctor,
I'd like you to tell that to Chris Nolan. Uh.
One area though, the is you can there's some interesting
(09:26):
research you might be able to learn while you're sleep.
Maybe a word here, you might process it like a
foreign language or so that that's CPR foreign language. I
wish that was true. But it seems like maybe you
could learn a word here, and then it would be
fun to take CPR and a foreign language, because then
you'd kill two birds with one stone. That's a good idea.
I popped it on your list. So you're having a dream,
(09:50):
Let's say you die in your dream. Does that kill you?
Like in Freddy Krueger's Nightmare on Elm Street. No, that
does not that does not kill you. No, if you
die in your dream, yes, so yeah, your dream are
not not based on what happens in your and what's
going to happen to you in your day to day.
That is a relief. That is an absolute relief. Um.
(10:11):
The other day, I forgot to have my cup of
morning Joe, right, and wouldn't you know it, I punched
a hole through this wall. Uh what what the heck
is that about not getting that morning caffeine. Yes, well,
caffeine is something that is very helpful in you know,
it wakes you up. People can help them with their mood.
(10:33):
So it's possible that if you had a bit of
a mood sweet had a bit of a mood swing
about your your morning morning coffee. That because I'm getting
fourteen hours of sleep and it takes me, what would
you say, another three hours to get out of my
groggy state. Yeah. I don't usually understand what you're talking
about until three cups of coffee. Yes, but you've said
(10:55):
some really sweet things, and then after coffee, you say,
I become a normal rationally exactly, doctor, When you scan
my brain, what color is it? So is it necessarily
a color? It depends what type of scanning you're using.
But you're usually looking at things like white matter and
gray matter, so usually would come up in a scan
as white or gray. But there are ways that now
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they do scans where there's colors that represent different parts
of the brain or different connections. So there's the computer
assigns colors to different parts of you. If you scan
someone's brain, can you tell if they're a white hat
or a black hat. That's a term we just learned
in cybersecurity, where black hat is a bad hacker in
a white hat. Yes, pick thank you. That was a
(11:39):
good question, right, that was a good question. I don't
believe sometin I don't think you can do that. I mean,
if I was in a bad mood and you scan
my brain, would it be red? Because angry? So when
you're certain moods, certain parts of your brain, blood flows
to that part of the brain, and so that you
can pick that up in a brain scan and say, oh,
this person is angry or that they're more in a
calm state. So those types of things you can't see
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on a brain scan. Um Carolina here is a pathological liar. Okay,
so what does her brain look like? I normally would
disagree with this, but I made a pact with run earlier,
so yeah, let's go with it. What does the brain
look like that somebody who's a pathological liar, in other words,
Carolina's brain? What would it look like? You know, on
(12:20):
one hand, we learn a lot from brain scans, but
it's very difficult to just look at a brain skin
and make that sort of conclusion that this person is
a pathological liar. Um. But our ability to control parts
of our brain, our emotions, uh, it really comes from
this part of our our brain right here behind our forehead,
our prefrontal cortex. So that would be something that could
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be investigated. Is the size and the strength of that
part of the brain. Should you get a brain scan
like once a week, just to stay on top of
things that would not be recommended? Okay? Alright, if someone
say Ron may have exaggerated something, here we go again,
and he highly highly doubtful, go ahead. Then he believed
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that it was the truth. So some liars believe their
own lives eventually, is that from a deep seated sort
of route that they keep using or by the way,
she's referring to the fact that I won the Heisman Trophy.
You see, that is a hard it's a hard Southern
Methodist university. So something that's really interesting about memory and
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what we think is reality is that every time. So
when you have a memory, when you have an experience,
you make when I ran for a hundred and forty
seven yards when that's Baylor right, right, when something like
the cotton Bull, when that memory that memory. So if
we go back to what happened in was it nineteen
the moment that happened, your brain made a connection. Every
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time you rethink of it, you revisit that connection. We
think of my seventy eight yard touchdown run and you
win the game in overtime form the connection, yes, And
so every time you revisit it, you actually reformed the connection.
So you'll know just when people retell stories, the stories change,
but they believe what they're telling you because they're revisiting
the most recent version of the connection as opposed to
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what happened in the moment they made the connection. So
that's why the right that's they remember their memory. That's
why witness testimony is very flawed. That's why two people
experienced the same event years later, they have very different,
very different accounts, very different accounts of it. Yes, so
memory is very strange. It's not really you're not revisiting
what actually happened, but the last time you thought of it.
Because some people come to me and say, no, you
(14:31):
didn't run for seven or seventy two yard touchdown. You
ran a sixty eight yard touchdown. And then a lot
of people come up to me and say, you were
never at that game, you never played college football, and
that's their memory of it, of what happened. That's true. Uh,
where in my brain are my taste buds? Oh, that's
a good question. So your taste buds are actually in
(14:54):
your mouth, on your and many of them actually in
your nose. So when you're tasting things and you plug
your nose, uh, you have a very hard time tasting.
Most of taste sensation is actually through the nose. The
nose is actually connected very closely to the brain, so
the sensory of smell is right here below your nose.
So is that why a lot of the world's top chefs,
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when they're you know, sampling their their dish before it's
about to be plated, will shove a portion of it
up their nose to taste it. So the nose I'm
not sure if they do that, but what I do
know is that the nose is very connected to the
brain and the sense of smell, and so it's right there.
Your your brain is right here at the top of
your nose, and that's the chemicals from the food. Actually,
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they go in the air and they attach right there,
and that your brain makes sense. How could I train
my taste buds, well, my brain to like lettuce, to
tell my taste buds, Oh you love lettuce. I guess
you could make an association lettuce. That's a positive thing,
something that you like about something else. Anytime you eat lettuce,
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let us, I'll think of the joy of what I won,
the Heisman troph You could do that then that that moment,
eat more lettuce? Yeah. Um, do you do experiments on mice?
I have? How cute are they? I think they're pretty cute.
They can be they can't be cute? Yeah, and so
I when I was sometimes we're about to, you know,
hook a mouse up to an electrode, Like he's too cute.
(16:19):
I can't do it, um, there's death, shove a sensor
up its butt or something like that. You know, I
love animals, and it's it's a it's and I currently
don't do any animal research, but I always try to
remind myself of the greater good for humans. But but
at the same time, it's it's tough. I'm gonna be honest,
right right right, m hmm. Well and what was your
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what was a successful ron just thinking about a mouse? Yeah, okay,
the mouse I met okay, um, go ahead, sorry, Caroline,
what were you saying, give me, give me a chase
to compose myself? What's this successful mouse experiment that you've
done where mice have taught us about something? Uh, so
(17:05):
specifically that I've done or or anyone has done that
was interesting to you. Well, wow, there's there's so what
we talked about the brainwash that was initially discovered in
animals like mind and then it was and then moved
up into understanding humans. So, uh, there is quite a
bit of what we understand starts at the level of
so things starting dishes essentially with cells, and then if
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that is understood, then it goes to the next level.
Oftentimes something like a worm or a fruit fly, and
then it moves up up the ladder until we can
make sure that this is valid information that can be helpful. Wait,
so you're doing tests on fruit flies. Yeah, I used
to do fruit fly research. Yeah, that's a lot of
our genetic studies come, believe it or not, from mantalizing flies.
And has anyone ever cloned to fly before? Yes, so
that that that has happened, so that that's where they
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So they've cloned sheep and things like that. But um,
that's those are tricky experiments because there's some issues there
about how healthy the clone is. Right, dr Sometimes I
lose myself to dance. How can I stop that? I
would not stop that, I would you know. They looked
at a study where they found that essentially one of
(18:12):
the best things you can do for your brain danceing.
They actually took people who are older and they said,
what can we do to make these people have younger brains?
And they tried all different activities, exercise, you name it.
Nothing was better than dancing because it's a combination of
physical and creative, physical, mental, social thing, feel good, it's
it's it's everything you want to do for your brain
(18:33):
in one activity. So don't don't give that up. So
dance like a fool. Dance like a fool. I won't
feel so guilty when I you know, in the middle
of it's been kind of distracting airplane flight. I just
stand up and like it. That's boogie. Yes, we're heading
to San Jose. People NonStop to San Jose. Let's dance
(18:55):
the whole time. They usually asked me to sit down.
When I are the song bad Girls by Donna Summers,
I have to dance, Okay, I have no choice. Is
my brain a mere servant for Donna's beats? How do
I get free of her control? Or what? I guess
(19:15):
you would argue, don't don't free yourself. So there's two
things I think that you were talking about, which is
one is why why when you hear a beat do
you want to move? Specifically Donna Summer, Donna Summer specifically?
Are you talking about earworms? This idea that of song
you can't get out of your head? How do you
get out of your head? That's sort of the question.
Or why is Donna summing? I would never put am
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in my ear? What you know, there's a term that
you know when you have a song stuck in your
head and yeah, yeah, yeah, that's they call that an
earworm and why does that happen? Um, So, there's been
these really interesting studies where they found that your brain
loves to predict what's going to happen next in a song,
and a lot of these songs that are so catchy,
they're not quite predictable, and so your brain is constantly
(19:57):
replaying that little piece over and over again to try
to make sense of why it wasn't quite exactly what
your brain expected, and it goes on a loop. So
your brain finds comfort in predicting the next pattern. Yes, something.
Your brain loves to predict the next thing. That's why, Uh,
you know, when you're driving work to home, home to
work and you say, how did I get here? Your
brain loves that predictability. It loves to go auto pilot. Yeah,
(20:20):
it loves to go into autopilot because the brain gets
a chance to to check out. Essentially, Yeah, it goes
into what we call autopilot or habit mode. And so
when something is surprising or knew, your brain can become
fixated on it. Now, I wonder what GPS is that
affecting the brain's ability to remember how to get home.
There's some They did this study with taxi drivers who
(20:40):
had to learn London and it seems like there's something
good about finding your way using directions and it actually
can be helpful to the brain. That it's possible we
could be losing that predictability. This makes me think of monogamy.
So how because the airline is not she's never been
in a monogamous relationship in her life. Continue, Yeah, thus
(21:01):
the song bad Girls. Yeah, do you think the brain
likes predictability? Obviously, So if you're in a monogamous relationship,
get to the point, geez, do you think that the
brain likes the monogamy? But also it obviously when you
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have a song stuck in your head, likes the new
thing that they can't predict. So how does that affect
monogamy versus a new person. So love and the brain
is something that's been analyzed quite a bit in the
last few years, and so there is this there's different
stages of love. There's early love where you're excited, it's
new and exciting, and then it kind of calms down.
There's kind of the sweatpants phase of love where people
(21:44):
get more comfortable and that can be a good thing,
but it can get a little monotonous. And so what
is often recommended based upon the brain is that keep
doing new and surprising things. Go new places, see a
new movie, go to a new restaurant, because that element
of surprise causes dopamine release in the brain and actually
helps keep the relationship exciting. So, dr, I'm a guy
(22:06):
who likes to go with my gut. You know, I
want it, I got it, you like my hair, just
bought it. What does my brain have to do with
my gut instinct? So that's that's really one of the
most exciting areas of brain science right now, which is
that what's happening down here in your connection is this
connection and so a big part of that is that
(22:27):
you have trillions of bacteria living in your gut, and
those bacteria are releasing chemicals and we all have different
types of bacteria. Those different chemicals can stimulate UH nerves
that sends signals to the brain. So so the idea
of the gut instinct, there is a real connection that
you should listen to that. So we're not sure yet
(22:48):
if you should be completely listening to your gut, but
your gut is sending signals to your brain. So one
are you? What do you like chocolate? I'm a chocoholic. Chocoholic,
so people whore chocoholics oftentimes have certain types of bacteria
in their gut. They're actually sending signals to their brain saying,
go get some chocolate. Our mood, our anxiety, are feelings
of stress complex. But what's happening in our gut Bacteria
(23:11):
send signals and can impact how we're feeling. So it's
a really we wouldn't think that, but what's happening down
here in our gut has this really fascinating relationship with
our brain. So when you feel your stomach drop, or
you feel that sinking feeling of you're scared or you're anxious,
or you have to go to work, um you, that's
connected to what what are you? What are you? Sometimes
(23:33):
you have a sinking feeling, you're good a little bit,
then just eat some chocolate. So that that's your advice
for literally everything, Well, is it bad? It's no, it's
good advice. Actually, it's positive reinforcement at the very least.
So we used to always think that, for example, if
you're stressed or worried, that that was happening from your
brain and then you would get an upset stomach. And
(23:56):
that's true, that's still very true. But now we realize
it's a two way street. So it can happen is
that your gut can be off, and then that can
set signals to your brain that make you nervous or worry.
So it's this idea that there are these two organs
are talking to each other, and so nutrition affects our
moods a lot. Yeah, So that's what we're learning is
what we eat can have an impact. It's very It's
not the only thing that impacts, but what we eat
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determines what types of bacteria live there, and then what
type of bacteria there can impact how your mood is. Um,
I forget everyone's birthday. That's just me. I've never remembered
a birthday in my life. How can I remember one?
I just need to remember one, my own. How do
you remember your own birthday? Remembering your own birthday? Usually
(24:41):
when things are repeated over and over again, they get deep,
it gets locked in. Uh, writing it down and revisiting
it can be helpful. So putting it on a post
it note. The more we see things making it emotional.
Maybe you can't say your birthday is every Friday. I've
had to wish you a happy birthday. Well, he loves
the attention of the cake and the candles. I've gotten
(25:03):
used to it to have my birthday every Friday, and
that's the repeated behavior again. Right, my brain loves it.
But subsequently I've actually forgotten the actual date of my
own birthday. Huh. Well, fascinating. Yes. Um, so will we
ever develop powers of esp brains? That's a good question. Um,
(25:28):
I would say not in the near future. No, in
terms of evolution, like next year, not No, not not
next not in not and not any time in in
evolution is very very slow. That's a shame. But we
know so little about the brain that there is, you know,
a lot of hope for understanding more and tapping into
(25:48):
things and everyone you hear this like we only use
x percent of our brain, right, what would you you know?
That's what that's that's considered one of the biggest myths
in brain science. That's based upon this idea that you're
only using your brain, but you're really using your whole brain.
You're using that That's what I've always said, you're using
the whole thing. But your ability to learn more is
almost limitless. Yeah, pretty much, even with age. Even with age,
(26:13):
many parts of learning actually in the ability to learn
new things, to analyze things can get better with age.
So you can teach a new dog old tricks. Yes,
the brain is trick constantly rebuilding, remodeling. So let's say
you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yes, we're
teaching around some sayings. Yes, what was the other saying
(26:36):
we were working on? You said, um, this isn't my
first rodeo, but you said my first merry go round? Yes,
sayings are fun. Is that a sign of intelligence? Uh?
I guess referencing things? Yeah? What about if you can
name like all the teams in the NFL, Is that
(27:00):
a sign of intelligence? Uh? You know, intelligence is many
different things. But recall memory, that's a that's a part
of it, part of intelligence. But many different things were
involved in intelligence. So he here's a big question. It's
been put out there by certain pundits that our current
president is cuckoo. Where do you stand on that? On
your on your analysis from afar? Is he a crazy man? Um?
(27:23):
You know? Or is he crazy like a fox? So?
Is that the saying I think that is the same.
I think you're right. Usually so psychologists, which is different
than what I do. I think they're uh, they try
not to analyze people unless they've met them. That's that's
essentially the credo, and that that makes it makes sense
making that assessment. And so even though I'm a pretty
(27:43):
good judge of a character from afar right right right,
I'll often walk into a crowded room and just go,
I don't like you, bozo narcissist anyway. Yeah, sorry to
keep interrupting. No, no, no, those but those terms like
narcissist or or psychopath. We throw those terms around, but
really to actually, um, I know if somebody truly is
(28:04):
that term in general, you have to you have to
sit down and talk to them really and have a
professional really analyze them. Mhm okay, well, doctor, thank you
so much for spending time with us here in the
Ron Burgundy Podcast. We have learned so much. You've you've
put to rest a lot of questions that we had,
and uh we wish you continued success. Oh, thank you
(28:27):
for having me. I really appreciate being here, and we'll
have more right after this commercial bake break, My brain
is tired on Ron Suargundy podcast. Welcome back to the
(28:51):
Ron Burgundy Podcast. Here are my final thoughts, Caroline, I
have to say something now that Dr Millstein is gone,
now that he's out of here, I just I have
to say something controversial. I really didn't think he was
that smart, really, and I think some of his words
were made up. I'm serious. He just he seemed a
(29:15):
little smug, don't you think, I mean, does he think
he's smarter than us? I think he's smarter than us.
I mean he's a professional scientist. Wow, you think he's
smarter than me? After all I've taught you? I'm sorry,
what what do you think you've taught me? What have
I taught you? Yeah? I mean, um, let me think. Um,
(29:38):
how about how to play green sleeves on the jazz flute,
how to take a horse bath, how to wash under
my car, how to wash eight mildly aggressive Doberman's um?
What else? Oh, how to shine fifteen candelabras, how to
wire money to an offshore Okay, let's stop, let's stop
(30:01):
right there. I mean, yes, that's true. You did teach
me some of those things, and that's something a brain
scientist wouldn't know how to do right. Let's face it,
You're right, yeah, those are some skills that you don't learn.
I mean, we should hand that guy the garden hose
and put him in my backyard with the domeriman. See
if he can even wash one of them, because I'm
(30:23):
telling you, those animals they hate smarty pants. If they
can detect a smarty pants in the room, they will
go for the jugular. All right. For my listeners out there,
thank you for your business. It was a pleasure as always.
And to any know it alls listening out there, I
hope today taught you that you don't know at all.
(30:46):
In fact, you don't know from Shinola. And with that ad,
The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart
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and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
(31:09):
and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nick Stump, Miles Gray,
and Whitney Ode. Our executive producer is Mike Farren. A
consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is Colin McDougald.
Our associate producers are Anna Holsnian and Sophie Lichtman. Our
writer is Jake Fogels. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobs.
(31:32):
Said this episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stuff.
Until next time, Ron Bernie stand, oh you bad, no,
(32:03):
your bead No, you're such a dirty, bad ground
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