An Interview with Gary Brecka

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
That was me a year ago, Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah,
that was your boy, stephen A. I can't even tell
you how bad I was. I was two hundred and
eight pounds. I was always skiddy. I was skinning bones,
with a pot belly, two hundred and eight pounds, nearly
thirty percent body fat, a cholesterol level over three hundred

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and point one point away from being a full blown diabetic.
And that was after I had COVID, which damn near
killed me. This is a year later. As you can see,
times have changed. I feel lovely, I think I look lovely,

(00:46):
and guess what I'm on a mission to do. Make
sure I can do exactly that for you too. Stephen A. Smith.
Show ain't just about sports, it ain't just about poperculting, entertainment,
it ain't just about politics. It's about out helping everybody
make their life better, whatever way we can pull that off.

(01:07):
The number one mission is health. There is no wealth
in any category without good health. We're going to start
today doing everything we can to make sure we address
that issue. You want to get healthy, you want to
be better, You want to do what you can to
move your life in a forward, more positive direction. Listen

(01:29):
to the special edition of The Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Smith Show.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yours truly with the one and only Gary Breker, but
ten Ex Health.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Wait till you hear.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
This brother drop his knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Let's go, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to the special edition of The
Stephen A. Smith Show. I've been looking forward to talking
to you, guys and ladies for a very very long time. Obviously,
over the last year or so heard me do something
that I have never done and that has mentioned my
health in a positive way. It was so bad for me,

(02:08):
as I pointed out in the cold open, I had
no reason to look in the mirror other than for
brushing my teeth and washing my face. I didn't want
to look in the mirror because life was that bad.
Needless to say, things have changed, and I have a
couple of people to thank for it, but none more
so than the individual that I'm about to introduce you

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all now to as well. First of all, he's got
his own Instagram account, his own TikTok account, he's got
a couple of millions of followers. He's the co founder
of Tenex Health System. Obviously, he's got a podcast, a
big time podcast, The ultimate human. He is the one
and only Gary Brekker. He is sitting it right next
to me. What's up, big time? How's everything going. It's

(02:49):
good to see you. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm doing great, man.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think it's appropriate to start off this conversation, really
this interview, by giving you major props and thanks. I
appeared on your podcast a few minutes a few months ago.
I definitely saved this because I'm in pretty damn good
shape right now. You are, heart, I'm feeling good about
myself and you, obviously have. You deserve a lot of credit.

(03:13):
I can't thank you enough for the help that you
have given me when you first saw me. Tell the
audience they saw a picture of me. Yes, but tell
the audience what kind of condition I was in.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, you know, everybody sees what's going on on the outside, right,
So we were taking a look at what was going
on on the inside.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
We did a gene.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Test, we did a blood test, and the blood revealed
something called metabolic syndrome. And people may have heard of this,
and I don't really know what it is. If you
know what it is, and then and then good for you,
because it's it is the leading cause of cardiovascuer disease,
and what it is. It's it's any two of the
following five domino obesity, elevated blood sugar, elevated insulin, high triglycerides,

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blood fat, and high cholesterol. And you had all five
of those right when you came to see me. The
blood was was sort of a disaster, right, And we
talked about this, and we've been very upfront about this.
And you know, this happens slowly over time. It's not
like you wake up one day and you got abdominal

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obesity and you're insulin resistant and you're you know, your
tracholycerides are high, which is a measure of blood fat,
and and your your sugars are off the charts. It
happens slowly over time. And there are people listening to
this podcast right now that had two or three or
four of the five signs of metabolic syndrome and they
do not know it. One of the first signs of
cardiovascro disease is sudden.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Death sign you die, that's a that's a symptom, that's
one of the that's one of the signs.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So they say one of the first signs of of
of of advanced cardiovasco disease sudden death. And so that's
why they call it the sudden killer, you know, the
silent killer. They called the left anterior descending artery the
widow maker because so, and I don't want to make
you know too heavy of your condition, but what I'm
saying is there are so many people were in the

(05:09):
place that you were in, and you were finally, I
think driven to me because of the consequences. You know,
you were saying you have brain fog, and you were tired,
and you were having a hard time getting through the
interviews on the air, and you know, your joints were achy,
you weren't sleeping well, you had a little bit of
water retention, and this is all too common, and it

(05:30):
just happened so slowly. One day, like you said, you
wake up and you look in the mirror and you're like, man,
I do not like what's looking back.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Is it all too common with everybody? Or do African
Americans get affected by certain things differently than White Americans,
differently than Latino Americans anything like that.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, African Americans are more prone to a few things
and more prone to Type two diabetes. There's no question
about that they're more prone to vitamin D three deficiency.
Vitamin D three. If you were to say, you know
what's the most important, single, most important nutrient in the
human body. There's lots of them, but I would probably
say it's vitamin D three, the sunshine vitamin. It's the
only vitamin that human beings make on our own. Every

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single cell in the body has a receptor for this vitamin.
The African American population is seventy five percent of that
population is deficient in vitamin D three. Fifty percent of
the world's population is deficient and vitamin D three effect.
It was the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID.
Do you remember when COVID, when the pandemic was at
its height, they said, well, the pandemic is disproportionately affecting minorities.

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This was very true. It had nothing to do with
their minority status. It had to do with the pigment
of their skin, right, and the vitamin D three. The
darker the pigment of your skin, the less your D three.
The less your D three, the more compromise your immune system.
So I when you talk about, you know, differences between
racist that's one of them. You know, also the propensity
for type two diabetes and insulin resistance is higher in

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the African American community. So these are just things that
that people should get data on. You know, most of
us have so much data on our business. We have
so much data on our kids and our families. We
keep sports stats, we know things like that, But we
don't have any data on our temple. And you know,
I do an interesting exercise sometimes when I when I

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speak in front of large audiences young entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs,
you asked them. I actually spoke at Damon John's event
a few weeks ago and asked her a room full
of high profile entrepreneurs, I said, how many of you
really believe that your health is more important than your wealth?
Every hand went up. How many of you believe that
your health is more important than your business? Every hand
goes up. And then when you bring a few people

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up onto the stage and you ask them a few
questions about their business. How much your business make last month?
Okay made six hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars. How
much did it net last month? One hundred and forty
eight thousand dollars? How many employees do you have seventy
two what's your net revenue per month? One hundred and
forty two? Three hundred? What's your hemoglobe in a one
C where your testosterone levels? What's your D three level? Blank?

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And they and I do that to rattle their cage
a little bit, to say, you need data. You got
to get some data on your body.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
But my question that you would be when folks are
lacking the data. Usually you go to a doctor when
you're not feeling well, or you go to a doctor
for a particular checkup. They give you an exam, they
analyze you, they dissect you, and they say, okay, this
is what your situation is. They might show you some
of that numbers, they may give you a copy of
your records and what have you. But that's basically it.

(08:29):
That's what you go by. So is it really about
the patient and not really prioritizing getting their numbers or
is it about the fact that we live in a
culture where you go to the doctor and you just
trust what the doctor is telling you and you go
from there. Unless you're feeling too bad that you need

(08:50):
you feel an urgency to try something different.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
All right, this is going to give me in some
trouble and it's probably going to split your audience right
in half. But the truth is that, you know, we
have a sick care system, and it is designed and
it makes hundreds of billions of dollars a year to
manage symptoms and manage disease. We are very good at
symptom maintenance. We are very good at disease management. So

(09:15):
when some traditional not all, but when some traditional physicians
will look at your medical record, they're looking to see
if you have disease or pathology. They're going to say, Steven,
I'm looking at this. You're fine. You don't have diabetes,
you don't have heart disease, you don't have any markers
that you've had, you know, any kind of active pathology
in your body. You know, come see me in next year.

(09:36):
But then you go, well, well, I'm having a hard time,
like recalling names at cocktail parties, and you know, I'm
having a hard time, you know, with words making it
to the tip of my tongue and just not making
it out. I'm having a difficult time remember my car
keys and my wallet aar, and I just don't feel good.
I know that I don't have the same energy level
and I know that I don't have the impetus to

(09:57):
work out. Libido has left the building. I don't feel
roused any longer. I've got no interest in sex any longer.
I'm not out of love with my spouse or are
not attracted to my spouse. I just don't have libido,
And so they don't want to live like that. When
you made it, you gave me one of the greatest
quotes of all time, and you said, there's a difference

(10:17):
between being alive and living and living. And I love
that quote because most of the time we're going to
go to our doctor to keep us alive. But if
you really want to live, if you really want to thrive,
you've got to put raw materials back into the human body.
God meant for us to have it all the libido
of a tiger, the energy of ten men, to sleep

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like a bear, to have clean, clear waking energy, to
have that positive aggression towards working out, to feel aroused,
to have the full range of emotions. And as we
get older and these things creep up on us, we
just sort of accept all of these things as a
consequence of aging. Weight gain, what a retention, brain fog,
poor sleep, poor response to exercise. They are not a

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consequence of aging at all. They are a consequence of
missing raw material in the human body. You know, I
always tell the story about when I was in grad
school and I had to take all these bodany courses,
which I hated. I was trying to get a second
degree in human biology. But if you have a leaf
rotting in a palm tree and you call it true arborus,
a true botanist out to your house, they'll look at

(11:23):
that leaf and they will not touch the leaf. They
will core test the soil and they'll say, you know what, Stephen,
there's no nitrogen in this soil, and they will add
nitrogen to the soil and the leaf will heal. Human
beings are no different. We just stopped thinking about it
this way. We've lost all faith in humanity and mankind,
the body's ability to heal itself, the power that this

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has over this. And when we get certain pieces of data,
one of which, in my opinion, should be a genetic test.
I think everybody in the on the planet to should
do one time in their life the same test. You did,
same test ain a white did. It's a genetic methylation test.
It tells you what raw material, what vitamins, minerals, amino acids,

(12:05):
nutrients can your body convert into the usable form and
what can it not. Once you have that piece of
data and you only do that test once in your life,
you are now supplementing for deficiency and not the sake
of supplementing. You want to go down a rabbit hole.
You start getting on social media, and you start getting
on Facebook and the Internet, and you start talking to

(12:26):
your friends about, well, what should I be taken? Why
are your feeling so good? And it's NMN and nicotine
and my rabicide and oshwaganda and Saint John's Wharton co
Q ten and multivitamins. And the truth is the biggest
fallacy in all of modern medicine is that what goes
into your body and goes into my body is treated
the same way. We need to know what our body
processes and what it doesn't. And when you find that out,

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it's like the missing nitrogen in the soil. Magic things happen.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And you saying, does genetic tests can do that?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
That genetic test did that, the one we did with.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
You, That's right, you know, I remember when you gave
me the test the first thing. I don't know if
you remember, you remember this. The first words that came
out of my mouth, I'm not Dana White, do not
tell me. Do not tell me how much time I
got left to live. You told Dana what I mean?
That was. I mean, of all the great things that
you've done, that that has been you know, there's been

(13:16):
noted throughout the years. Obviously one of the most popular
things you ever did was you would a guy had
told Data White, the president of the UFC, he had
ten point four years to live. The first words out
of my mouth to you was, if we're gonna do this,
I do not want to know. I want to have
very clue.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
You very very well did say that. I do remember that.
You made that very clear. I do not want to
know how long I have to live. That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I didn't want to know that. I want that creeping
up on me or.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
What have you.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But when you saw me, and you saw my blood work,
and you saw what needed to be done. One of
the things that I've been toilet telling people throughout the
last year or so, they've watched me, they've seen my transformation.
I still got a ways to go. I'm just getting started.
I'm not finished, I promise you that, But I lost
a lot of fat. I went from twenty nine point
six percent down to ten point four. I was with

(14:03):
you to communicate with you the whole time. Yes, and
apply of people said. I had people come up to me.
Maybe you know that that was Zepich must be good.
I'm like, I didn't take that. You're I'm doing cardio
six days a week. Wait, lifted five days. We got
my supplements of vitamins. But I'm not doing that, yep.
So what did I do? What was it about me
that I was able to attack that ultimately got me
to this point of estimation?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Well, I mean the bottom line is you put in
the work and nothing frustrates me more. And it doesn't
frustrate me for me, it frustrates me for people like you,
people like Dana White, Steve Harvey. When when when when
they get on the air like this and they tell
a very vulnerable story, they talk about their blood work
and their and their their sugar levels and their insulin resistance.
I mean, this is not something that we popularize. And

(14:46):
then and then the media and social media, they're they're
the they'll say, oh, I could have done the same thing.
If I had a million dollars, I could have done
the same thing if I took antabolic steroids. And they
want to take away the actual work that you put in.
I I will say this emphatically without disclosing your medical record.
You are not on steroids. You are not on growth hormone.

(15:07):
You did not take ozepic or wagovi or some aglatide
or two zeppatite, any of those things that these common
weight loss strokes. It's not that I don't think that
they have a place. You did three things. You began
to supplement for deficiency. So what we did was we
took that genetic test of yours and I said, Stephen,
this is the type of B twelve you need. It's
called methyl Cobalmen, you actually are very deficient in one

(15:29):
of the most key nutrients in the human body, called
methyl folate. We think that folic acid is a necessary
nutrient in the human body. It's not. Fullic acid is
a man made chemical. You cannot find folic acid anywhere
on the surface of the earth. It does not occur
naturally in nature. But yet we spray our entire grain supply,
all white flower, all white rice, all white bread, all

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white pasta, and all cereals with this chemical folic acid.
And then we wonder why we have so much add
so much ADHD, so much bipolar, so much depression, so
much poor sleep, such a skyrocketing rate of infertility. We
have skyrocketing rates of you know, miscarriages, multiple miscarriages, and

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yet the body is just missing simple raw materials. I'm
not saying all the time. There's enormous amounts of clinical evidence,
periviewed clinical evidence that support the fact that when you
have a gene mutation, which you had called MTHFR, the
most common gene mutation in the world, your body cannot
process this folic acid. You have to give it methyl folate.

(16:36):
We gave you methyl folate. All of a sudden, we
saw some of these major markers of inflammation, homo cysteine,
see reactive proteins start to come down. We saw the
gut motility start to return to normal. People spend a
lifetime struggling with gut issues. They got gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping.
They look at food sensitivities, they look at food allergies,

(16:58):
they do stool testing, they do all this stuff. They
overlook the fact that the body needs this nutrient metal
folate in order to have the pace of the gut
being Nor.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
My entire staff is listening to you because each of
them got bellies. But go ahead ahead, except.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
For okay, all right, these are my next superhuman projects
that are right off camera here next superhuman project. So
what happens is you put that raw material back in
the body. Now, we did do a couple of things
with some peptides, because I want to point out. You
pointed out the amount of body fat that you lost,
But what's really important is you not only did not
lose muscle, you gained lean muscle mass over the same

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period of time. And that's critically important because when people
use these well goovis a, Zempics, some maglatide, and you
know the weight loss drugs, a third to half of
the weight they lose is lean body mass. Now, when
people say they want to lose weight, what they really
mean is I want to lose fat.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's what they mean.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
They don't mean I want to lose muscle. I want
to lose connective tissue, lose bone. I don't want my
bones to demneralize. I don't want to lose tendons, ligaments, cartilage.
I don't want to erode. I want to lose fat.
And that's a really important distinction. You began a weight
bearing exercise program. We balanced your testosterone without testosterone. I'll

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just be clear about that. You were deficient in vitamin
D three and something called d h EA. We restored
those levels. Your testosterone numbers came back. You did take
an amino acid peptide forty four chain amino acid peptide
called Morlin, which helps rewind your protuitary to a more
youthful level of growth hormone secretion, which helped you maintain
your muscle mass and build muscle mass. We put you

(18:42):
on a very specific multivitamin. That multivitamin was designed for
you based on your genetic test, and then you started
slowly climbing out the whole. You also made some dietary changes.
We started watching the show Keto Diet.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I did that.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I did cardio.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Do I still do cardio six days a week. I
live five days a week.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, that's where the work comes in. The work did
not come from antabolic steroids. The work did not come
from magic weight loss drugs or pills. The work came
from your diet and lifestyle changes, and we supported the
human body by getting it to raw material it needed
to do its job.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's interesting that you bring all of that up, and
I thank you for that. And again I thank you
for all your assistance. I remember Steve Harvey called me
and he raved about you. Dana White is the one
who introduced me to you, and obviously you know how
I feel about him. You know, when the people look
at any of them, or the few people that might
mention something about me, and if they allude to something

(19:37):
like ozepic or anything like that, to me, it's not
an attack against me. It's an attack against you. And
you have a lot of people that have so many
questions about how legit you are, how real you are,
and what does ten X health and what does the
Ultimate Human and the podcast that you have, the Ultimate
Human Podcast bring to the table when you hear these
things about yourself, particularly in this day, and how does

(20:01):
that make you feel? I told you before, I'm used
to the scrutiny. I don't know if you were well.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean to be patently honest with you. You've actually
helped me a lot with that You've helped me understand
that I've never had this level of media exposure. And
you know, I was a mortality expert for large life
insurance for twenty two years, and I spent my time
reading medical records and predicting how soon people were going
to die. And I wasn't in service to humanity. I

(20:30):
knew that if I were able to pick up the
phone and contact these people, I could have made a
material change in their life.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Let me stop you, right the od oh, what do
you mean? You were not in service to humanity?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I was in service to myself.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
All I really wanted to do was be wealthy. I
love the data. I'm a scientist, you know, undergraduate degrees
or in biology. My postgraduate degrees are in human biology.
And I worked for the mortality and essentially we would
take ten years of medical records on you, in ten
years in demographic data, and we would predict how many

(21:05):
more months you had left on earth. And you begin
to realize very quickly that the reason why people are
not living longer, healthier, happier lives, or what we called
modifiable risk factors, which meant had I just been able
to and I was precluded by law. But had I
been able to pick up the phone and just call
that person and say, listen, you need to stop taking

(21:29):
stop taking the Methodtrex said, start taking this, start taking
vitamin D three, get off of this. Take that, you know,
get your your anemias non responsive to what you're taking,
and you to switch to this. Had I just been
able to contact the patient, now I understand why they
don't didn't allow me to do it. I'm not licensed
to practice medicine. I am not a physician. I'm a
human biologist. I have an entire team of clinicians at

(21:51):
work for Tenex Health that are that are board certified
mds and what have you. But had I been able
to contact that patient, on average, I could have added
seven years to their life. And I woke up one
day and realized that this was not just data, that
there were human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
How long ago was this?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It was just nine years ago. And I made a
very conscious effort, a very conscious decision that I was
not going to spend another day of my life predicting
how soon people were going to die. I was going
to spend the balance of my lifetime helping people live healthier, happier,
longer lives because for twenty two years I had access

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to one of the most incredible databases that had hundreds
of millions of lives in it, and I could see
that people were dying because of lifestyle choices and because
of nutrient deficiencies, and that disease and pathology wasn't happening
to us, it was happening within us. And I saw
how people were suffering from anxiety and anxiousness and depression

(22:58):
and ADHD and all these things that they can talk
up to a consequence of aging, which are not consequence
of aging, the consequence of missing raw material in the body.
And I quit my job and I literally came home
one day. Was my girlfriend at the time became my
fiance is now my wife, and I told her, I
said I quit my job today. And I had a calling,

(23:20):
and I said, I want to I want to start
a wellness franchise. And but not being licensed to practice medicine,
I had to find a physician. I had to find
a I had to find a PA and a nurse
practitioner and I ran it out a little place in
a strip mall, and I just and I started taking
all of the data and information and educating these doctors,
and we started treating people and and it just exploded

(23:41):
and it took off. And I never really had the
vision of, you know, building a billion dollar company or
even one hundred million dollar company, and it really had
the vision of like, uh, you know, making a lot
of money or being as big as we are. I
just knew that I wanted to be in service to humanity.
That I knew that I had a message that people

(24:02):
needed to hear. And so I've just gone out and
told that message over and over and over again. And
you know, when the content became viral, and I started
to get some patients that were some clients that were
well known, like Dana White and yourself, Steve Harvey, and
now I was on an episode of the Kartashians and
all of this, which is not really what I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Be known for.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I wanted to educate the masses, the man. The vitriol came.
It's it's astounding, like people will watch hours and hours
and hours of my content and find the one gotcha
moment and then they'll they'll just do reels on it
and write articles about it. And I make mistakes like
everybody else. I'm not infallible. Sometimes I'll read an article

(24:43):
and then I'll talk about it on social media, and
then I'll get torn apart on social media, and I'll
go back and go, you know what, I really shouldn't
have said that. I really shouldn't I should have checked
the I should have checked this sited research. I should
have looked up to study myself. I should have validated
that this was a real clinical study before I put
it out in the public domain. So some of it is,
you know, I deserve because I you know, I put

(25:06):
that information out there. But it's hard to deal with
sometimes because I see when they tear down the people
that are putting in the work. It bothers me more
that people are attacking Dana White for doing things that
he hasn't done. Like they accused him being on an
antibox steroids, accused him of being on all these weight

(25:28):
loss drugs, and they accuse him of having a cosmetic
surgery even and I happen to know that none of
that is true with you too, And so you know,
I take the heat to me personally. But when it
comes to you know, guys like you and the clients
that I'm working with. It's like, man, don't take away
the guy's hard work, right. I mean, he's waking up
every day, he's putting in the work, he's watching what

(25:49):
goes into his mouth. He's on a supplement regiment. And
I'm happy to tell you what that supplement regiment is.
And yes, he spent one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
on equipment. But that same equipment you can get for free.
I tell people all the time. You can drop one
hundred and twenty grand on a red light bed, or
you can expose your skin to sunlight. You can use
a hypermax oxygen system for five grand, or you can
learn to do breath work. You can use a PEMF

(26:13):
matt in your bed for five grand, or you can
touch the surface of the earth. But aging is the
aggressive pursuit of comfort. You see people pursue comfort so
aggressively that they accelerate their aging. We have got to
stop telling Grandma not to go outside. It is too hot.
Not to go outside, as too cold to just lay down,
to just relax, to eat at the very first pang
of hunger. This is destroying humanity. The human body responds

(26:37):
very positively to stress. If you don't tear a muscle,
it doesn't grow. If you don't load a bone, it
won't strengthen. If you don't challenge the immune system, it
weakens and atrophy kicks in. Atrophy kicks in. You know
what you're seeing coming out of this pandemic. You are
seeing the consequences of a global weakening of the immune system. Again,

(26:59):
not to make I divide audiences in half when I
say this, but the worst thing that ever happened to
humanity was residential quarantining, masking, and social distancing. You take
human beings out of contact with other human beings, the
immune system stops defending itself. It weakens, and now all
of a sudden, you got monkey pox. Do you ever
heard monkey pox? No, we're on a eighth version of

(27:20):
omni grond right there. I think we're at our sixth
seventh booster now. And my point is that I believe
a lot more on what God gave us than what
man makes us. And we have the ability to defend
ourselves as long as we condition the body like that.
It's called hormesis.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I could tell you this one of the things I've
never been an individual. Of course, I go to the
doctor often, never been scared to go to the doctor.
Got's something wrong with me, I'm going to the doctor.
Meeting number one. You've never discoveraged your being from going
to the doctor. You wanted me to go to the doctor,
and you challenge me, let's see what the results are
now that you've been doing X, Y and Z. So

(27:58):
I always appreciated that one of the things that I
pay a lot of attention to when I see folks
within the medical profession. I'm not gonna mention any names,
but when I see folks in a medical profession coming
after you and they're talking about the success that you've
been able to reap and the money that you've been
able to make, I don't recall any doctors treating me

(28:21):
for free. Everybody is trying to make money, and I
don't have a problem with that. My concern is whether
or not you know what the hell you're doing, and
that's the biggest thing for me. And what you can't afford,
you cant afford it. What you can't you can't you
find different ways to work around it, which I've done
all my life and so many others have done as well.
Do you find yourself tempted to challenge these folks in

(28:44):
a public platform who have challenged you and your knowledge.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, but not for the purpose of berating or belittling them.
For the purpose of benefiting our audiences. I think a
good spirited, civil, fact based debate is going to benefit
our audience. You know, there was a there was a
big hit piece on me in the Daily Mail. I
a a whole lot of respect for the Daily Mail,

(29:09):
but it ended up in the Daily Mail. And what
was astounding to me was I said I talked about
a clinical study was actually in the Wily Journal of
Headaches in twenty sixteen. Your audience wants to look it up,
and it showed an inverse relationship between sodium intake and
migrain headaches. So, in other words, it showed that low
sodium increased the incidents of migraine headaches, and by actually

(29:34):
increasing sodium intake, it decreased migrain headaches. Now what's interesting
about my past is I came from a big data past,
you know, hundreds of millions of lives, and now the
platform that I have, we see you know, November we
did twenty thousand gene tests. We do fifteen to twenty
thousand of these tests a month, So we have enormous

(29:56):
pools of data on real people, real human lives, and
I rarely see the people that are challenging or taking
issue with me putting up their results that they're having
impatient or client after.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Client after client, just does you knocking down what you're.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Attacking? The phrase? You know, the you know, the phrase
or the nuance that I made in a you know,
three hour podcast. I mean, there's some of these these
guys on social media that after my Joe Rogan podcast,
said I'm going to spend forty hours debunking Gary's podcast.
And I said, well, first of all, how do you
know that there's anything to debunk before you even watch it?

(30:33):
And you're really going to dedicate forty hours of your
life to actually going through and dissecting every surgical word
that I said to see if I made a mistake,
and then extrapolating that, why aren't you out there in
service to humanity too? I mean, we're actually all on
the same platform. That's why you'll never see me be
right or belittle or attack one of my competitors or
even these guys that assault, you know, make a regular

(30:55):
project out of assaulting me because I don't think it's
in furtherance of our mission. You know, the great advice
I ever received, you know, from my father, was if
you want to if you want to shrink your problems,
grow your purpose. And it doesn't grow my purpose to
get into a battle with these guys. What would serve

(31:15):
humanity is for them. And I've invited them, some of
these people onto my podcast and say listen, I'll have
a platform. You bring whatever issue it is, the sodium
issue with migrain headaches. By the way, if you have
migrain headaches, understand that migraines, the brain does not have
pain receptors, so it actually is not capable of sending
a pain signal. So we know that migrain headaches don't

(31:35):
come from the brain. That come from the covering of
the brain. The dura, the covering of the brain, and
the doura hates being stretched and contracted, and it's very
sensitive to the sodium gradient. Now I'm not saying that
all people that suffer from migraine headaches need to take sodium,
but people that take mineral sodium like Baja gold salt
and Celtic salt in attitude their drinking water. I can
tell you not anecdotally, from thousands of clients that have

(31:59):
come through our our clinics, it has a positive effect
on my grain headaches. You were one of those people, yes,
that woke up every morning with headaches. And after I
had you start drinking this in the morning, you called
me to the headaches are gone.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I went from age nineteen to age fifty five with
a headache every single morning. I would start out behind
eight ball proverbally speaking, figuratively speaking, actually behind eight ball.
I came to you and I asked you about my headaches,
and that's how it really started, before I even got

(32:31):
to the part about wanting to get rid of my
belly and what have you. The number one reason I
came to you initially when Dana White introduced me to you,
is that I was waking up with headaches every morning
and my head felt like it was banging. It was banging,
and you had it. And at the time you called
the cogna nourish and you talked about how I'm not dehydrated,
I'm low in sodium. Yes, And that was fourteen months ago,

(32:55):
And in fourteen months, I've had three headaches.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
There you go in fourteen months, and I can tell
you there are thousands of clients that would repeat that
same story. And now someone wants to go into the
published periodviewed clinical literature and find a clinical study where
that might not be true. But we at some point
we have to acknowledge that some of the worst research
done on human beings is when we study things in isolation.

(33:20):
You know, when you want to cut a human beings
life expectancy in half, put them in isolation. You want
to see really poor clinical trials done on human beings.
Take one sale or one organelle out of the body
and study how it behaves in a peatrie dish. We
live in communities, and cells function and thrive in communities.
When you take them out of their community, they behave differently.

(33:40):
When you start to understand real human physiology, human beings,
and human anatomy, you start to understand that very often
it is simple missing raw material in the human body
that is causing it to behave in some way. You know,
we have an enormous body of patients that come through
our clinical system and see our physics. Since they have

(34:00):
add they have ADHD, they have OCD, and nobody even
really tells them what it is right now.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So if you have a time, why do you think
that is why ad not being told what it really is?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Because if I can get you to believe that you
have a disease and can get you to subscribe to
a lifetime of medication, I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Money's in a medicine. Well, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
That type two diabetes is one hundred and ten billion
dollar annual industry in the United States. One hundred and
ten billion. Is that the largest? It is cardiovascular disease
is the largest as a grouping, but type two diabetes
is one hundred and ten billion dollar industry. I mean,
do you think that there's a meeting going on in
some big farm of boardroom right now trying to put
that out of business and say, how do we get that,

(34:40):
you know, one hundred and ten billion off the balance sheet?
And you know it used to be that you know,
the die is that they would put up on some
of these websites were really insulin dependency diets. Used to
drive me crazy. I'm like, why are we telling type
two diabetics to eat a bowl of oatmeal with crush,
brown sugar, natural hunting and a glass of orange juice.
These people need fats and proteins where you need to
take the pressure off of the pancreas. And you know

(35:02):
you got listeners right now, you know that have add
or ADHD, and no one's actually told them. And it's
not an attention deficit at all. It's an attention overload disorder.
It's too many windows open at the same time. You see,
in the human mind, we don't just create thought. We
also break thought down. So if you create thought at
a faster rate than you break it down, the mind

(35:22):
gets clouded, right, So you're paying attention to too many things.
People with add or ADHD, you know, very often do
not lack the ability to pay attention. They lack the
ability to pay attention to so many things. So if
we can actually get them to degrade thought at the
same rate that they create thought, then the mind calms down.

(35:43):
You see, Modern medicine says, okay, if the mind is racing,
let's put an amphetamine into the body to race the
central nervous system to match the pace of the mind.
So let's take the system that's not broken, break it
to match the system that is broken. That's what Vivan's
atter all you know riddling. These are These are inphetamines
for the for the most part. Whereas if we could

(36:04):
just quiet the mind, then all of a sudden that
little anchor of ADHD would come right up off them.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You know a lot of people out there go like this,
I want some weed that will do with it. That's
what a lot of them do.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I need to quiet the mind. I need to be
a bit mellow. I need to you know what I mean.
The hell with the supplements, hell with vitamins. Damned, I'll
be dad if I'm interested in exercises. Let me get
some weed and I'll be fine. What does weed do
for folks?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
All weed's doing, see, is a coping mechanism. There is
a difference between coping and getting rid of something. So
let's say, you know, if you're on a boat and
you throw an anchor off your stern, you got two choices.
You can either add power to the motor right and
just drag it, or you can pull it up. And
so what you're talking about doing is just adding power

(36:53):
to the motor. You're like, well, I get anxiety, so
I smoke weed, and I pushed the anxiety down. You know,
I got this really active mind, so a smoke weed
to tranquilize myself into a tranquil state. Well what if
instead of having to deal with it, think about you
know a lot of therapy. And I'm not poopoo in
therapy by any means. People have trauma that they deal with.
And I'm an enormous fan of counseling and therapy and

(37:15):
I've gone through the psychiatry.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I went through it for my divorces and I and
I'm a big believer in My point is the majority
of the way that we teach people when they have
a condition to deal with that condition is to cope.
We teach them coping mechanisms instead of saying, why don't
we get rid of this?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I mean, if you have anxiety, and you you're actually
truly suffered from anxiety, and I know a lot of people,
including my wife, that used to suffer from anxiety. It
is a crippling condition because you don't fake anxiety, you
fake being okay. And if your anxiety has a couple characteristics.
Number one, you've had it on and off throughout your lifetime.
Number Two, you can't point to the specific trigger that

(37:56):
causes it. And number three, when you take anti anxiet medication,
it just makes you feel like a zombie. That is
a telltale sign that it is coming from a nutrient deficiency.
And that is the majority of clients that have anxiety.
Now why do I say that with so much conviction,
because we have seen thousands of these patients in our clinic.

(38:17):
They're not my patients. There are patients of our clinical team,
and we have data. And one of the big things,
one of the one of the you know, the great
things that I that I feel is a blessing that's
been bestowed upon me as the is the access to
so many thousands of people now. But I used to
access them in a database and predict them when they

(38:39):
were going to die. Now I access them in a
database and I can see what is making them live
live longer. So take it this anxiety patient, If you're
listening to this and you have anxiety, you need to
do this genetic test and you'll find that very often,
not always, but very often you'll have a genetic mutation
called m THHFR or comt comp And when you supplement

(39:02):
for this deficiency, what happens is these fight or flight
neurotransmitters that rise in your brain, called catecholamines, start to degrade.
Because when people have anxiety, what happens is these fight
or flight neurotransmitters begin to rise in their body and
in their brain without the presence of a fear. You see,

(39:23):
we don't understand how unsophisticated the brain truly is. It
really doesn't know the difference between perception and reality. If
you drove home tonight and you got out of your
car and somebody was standing in front of you with
a knife, that's a very real threat. Your pupils would dilate,
your heart rate would increase, your extremities would flood with blood.
You would start having a fight or flight response, right,

(39:44):
And that fight or flight response is catecholamines rising in
the brain, fight or flight neurotransmitter, so adrenaline, you know,
a fedrin, dopamine, a fedron rising in your brain. Now
you're ready to fight or flight. Well, you could also
belaying in my bed tonight. We're on the twenty first
floor of a condo here. You could be laying in
my bed tonight. You could start thinking about getting eaten

(40:06):
by a shark, and you could have the exact same reaction.
How is it that you can have the same reaction
to the presence of somebody standing in front of you
with a knife as to an entirely imagined event because
the brain does not know the difference between perception and reality,
and to the brain, they the exact same thing. So,
now that we know it's a rise in catechola means,

(40:27):
what can we do to lower those You can take
methylated B vitamins, you can take methyl folate, you can
take something called sam E. These are proven over the
counter supplements that actually fill in the deficiency so your
body can break these neurotransmitters down. And all of a sudden,
people go, oh my god, I'm free of anxiety. Well,

(40:47):
you never had anxiety. You had elevated catecola means, and
we just lost so much faith in the human body's
ability to heal itself.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
That's my message. My message is to the masses, is
to you are not as sick as you think you are.
You are not as pathological as you think you are.
Ninety percent of what you are dealing with right now
is not the consequence of aging. It's not the consequence
of your environment. It's not the consequence of stress. It's
ignorance consequence of missing raw material, missing row material, which
you have no knowledge about. You don't know any better.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
But there's a whole bunch of people in and outside
the medical profession that don't know enough to tell the
audience what you just told us. I'm going to transition
to switch just a little bit because I want to
get to how you start off your day, because see,
you don't have the problems. You don't have the problems
that most folks have. There's a reason for that, and

(41:38):
people need to see this. So stick around. This is
Steven A. Smith Show coming at you right now. When
we come back, we're gonna show you how this man
starts off his day so you can have a clue
as to the things he does to make sure he's vibrant, energized,
ready to go on a day to day basis. Stick around,
Gary Brekker, which your boy Stephen A. Smith back with
more in a minute. I want to take a second

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(43:18):
everybody to know, I want you to tell everybody, I
want you to give us a lowdown of how you
start off that you're snoring, you're sleeping.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
You get up, what do you do? Okay, So it's
it's it's a lot. But since you asked, so in
my bent, I've got a I've got a couple of
sleep hacks that I use. This is a sleep eight mattress. Basically,
what it does is it runs cool water underneath my
body and night, so it keeps my body cool. Beneath

(43:45):
that is something called pulse electromagnetic fields a p E
m F MAT. So that PMF matt that's the underneath
of here, and I will people blast pulse electromagnetic field.
It will blast electromagnetic a low gasse current through my body.
So this keeps some body alkaline. It actually separates all
my red blood cells, pulls me into a deep sleep.

(44:08):
This keeps me cool while I'm sleeping at night. And
when the body is kept alkaline, what does that mean?
At ol door in stage at these free state, So
the p range of the body is actually very narrow
though it's only about half a point. But the more
acidic you get, the sicker you become, the more alkaline
you get, the better you feel, and so it's a
very narrow range. So one of the ways to keep

(44:28):
that range is to use pulse electromagnetic field. PMF also
blows out all the MF frequency in your body. It
actually repolarizes the surface of your cells, so they can
eliminate waste, and they can repair, and they can detoxify,
they can regenerate. So you might as well do that
while you're sleeping. So my sleep environment's really important to me.
Behind you is a is an air filter. We call

(44:49):
this surgically clean air. It filters my air down to
zero point one micron. Now that less than the size
of a virus. When I lead the house, I run
an ozone setting. It kills mole sphores and micotope so
there's no dust, no pollen, no viruses in the air.
I keep them bed nice and coal. I use a
PMF mat to get me into sleep. I know it
sounds like a lot of sleep is so important.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I'm going to say this. You sound like you're getting
perfect sleep. There's a perfect environment it whichs to sleep.
You would think that's all you would need to have
a beautiful day. But that's not where you stop. That's
just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
So let's walk around and please feel free to show
us what are the steps you take to make sure
that you will have a fruitful day of day.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Because I want to tear this to myself. So I
get into my bathroom and what I do is I
splash a little water on my face. I mean, if
you want to know my zach routine, I'll tell you.
I'm asking. I come in here, a flash, a little
water on my face. I brush and gloss of my teeth,
and then this is just a spair cold punch. I'd
just like to keep on closed with this, not the

(45:51):
one I use in the morning. Splash full of war
on my face. I brush my teeth, and then I
come in here and I get in I go straight
into a cold bath.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
And this is the hardest thing to do in the morning,
because hold bath like the whole plunge Old plunge, baby one.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
It's Steve Harvey and they don't white and everybody, and
I'm talking about when you subjected me too. This will
become your drug of choice. I'm telling you it will
be coming to drug a choice. It's three minutes minimum,
six minutes.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Mats. That's it. There's no evidence that I've seen that
longer is better or colder is better. I keep this
at forty eight to fifty degrees. So I come in here,
got a pair of shorts on. I'll just splash water
on my face. I'll brush my teeth, and then I
immediately take three D breasts and then when I hold
that breath, I just I get all the way out

(46:43):
it before and you know the full pluge. Man. Yeah,
it's like, how long does it take you to get nobody?
But I don't know it.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Well, it takes me seconds to be quite. It feels
that way anyway. I know when I use it, it's hell.
It's never easy, but the benefits are worth it. I
know that I never have felt more a line. What
else you do from here?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Okay? So then okay, so how you're fitting next? Yeah? Now,
and I call it the pain Palace. Okay, So I
get up hold this trick mill. This is an ELF
three treadmill. So it's just self powered. So you power
this thing yourself so you can walk on it, you
can run it, and you got the NFL call fee
is the shred bill because either running backs can out

(47:24):
run this because it isn't out of top speed. So
you put this mask on and basically what this is doing.
Hear that, Okay, that's actually it's taking twenty one percent
oxygen from the air. The ambient air that we're breathing
is twenty one percent of two. This air is ninety

(47:47):
three to ninety five percent oxygen. So I put this
mask on, I'm connected to this bag, and I've breathed
down nine hundred liters of oxygen in the morning, Jude,
and that does what for you? So this is called
ewatt exercized with oxygen therapy. For multi step oxygen therapy,

(48:08):
there's a Nobelaureate prize winner in medicine, Auto Warbird and
doctor Vinian Artist who actually did a lot of work
on a multi step oxygen therapy. And multi step oxygen
therapy is increasing your heart rate just a little bit
and using high amounts of oxygen to profuse your tissues.
The presence of oxygen is the absence of disease. So

(48:29):
if you're not going to you know, if you could,
if you could do one of these great If not,
you got to learn to do breathwork and you got
to blow out all that other gas out of your
botty by doing deep bricks. If you're not going to
do that, which is, you can use what I'm doing.
You do this high permenants oxygen. You read the ninety
three to nine to five percent oxygen, ten to twelve
minutes flood the blood with oxygen. Do you feel amazing?

(48:50):
You feel like you want the lottery d office that
combined with that body b an alkaline? Yes, your boss shitting?
Did you just woke up from me for a deep sleep?
You slept cool, you had your eyemask on, you had
your PMF mat keeping you alkali, and you woke up
the splash word in your face, prush your teeth, you
hit the cold plunge. When you get out of there,
you're switched all. Then you come in here and you

(49:12):
warm your body back up ten to twelve minutes of
hypermax oxygen. And then I got one more style for you.
Let's go. So we have one more stuff and I'm
going to show you the red LIGHTE therapy bed. Now,
this is amazing. This is arguably my favorite anti aging
longevity device. This is the most powerful red light bet
on the market. There are forty five thousand light diodes

(49:36):
in here, so so of this red light is visible.
Some of it is invisible. Those are infrared or near
infrared wave lights. So red light therapy is amazing. The
rage in sports recovery, it's the rage and anti aging.
It's great for you your skin and reduces inflammation. It
dilates to microcapillaries and like your eyes and your organs,

(49:57):
your spine. So when you lay in this, basically what
you're doing is you're in here for about fifteen to
twenty minutes. It's reducing inflammation. What is doing, Steve, is
it's kicking out a gas inside your cell called nitric
oxide and forcing oxygen into the cell. Right, you just
flooded the blood with all that oxygen. Now you come

(50:20):
in here and you drive it. Right.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
What about the person that asked why would this be
leading when you've just got out of bed, you're laying
on the PF PMF man, you got the system alkalide,
you went on a hypomax machine, you breathed all of
that oxygen into your body.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
If you've got all of that goingle one, why would
you still lead this to reduce inflammation, to increase collagen,
elastin and fibering in your skin, to dilate those microcapillaries,
and there's a nanime or waylength end here. It goes
through the cell wall, through the mitochondria, the powerhouse of
the cell, and he kicks a gas out called nitrog

(50:57):
oxide and forces oxygen in. Remember I said the presence
of oxygen is the absence of disease. Well, if I
was to boil cellular biology down for you to one sentence,
it would be this. When oxygen entests the mitochondria, enterest
this motor inside the mitochondria, you get a sixteenfold step
up in energy, cellular repair, waste elimination, detoxification, regeneration. There

(51:20):
are lots of clinics that have these. If you don't
want to spring to buy one of these beds or
even red light panels which are barely can get them
on Amazon. You don't want to give one of those
red light panels, just google around it, find a clinic
near you that allows a membership for something to pay
for service, and use this a few times a week.
See how you feel, dude. It's a game chick. One
more thing on that show us. So this is this

(51:41):
is where I use on occasion. I know you use
this every day. This is a full system resets right,
because it's called a viny acoustic bed. This is a
fibroacoustic bed. They say that only the most enlightened monks
can actually really get into a truth. They estate a
state where you're devoid of all thought. Right, so even

(52:03):
the thought about whether or not you're having a thought
is a thought. That's true. Though It's true. I see
you doing meditation or anything, I can't imagine you trying.
I've never tried. I've never tried it. I will because
I've heard a lot of great, great things about it.
It's amazing, but you know, I'm trying to do it,
and I'm like, I forget with these guided meditation They're

(52:25):
like there's a tunnel and there's a light at the
end of the tunnel. And then my ADHD kicks in
and I'm like, well, if there's a light at the
end of the tunnel, some's calling down there while we
get down there, right, what are we doing.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Down on this end?

Speaker 4 (52:34):
And like, I just keep shutting my mind off. So
what this does. It turns on an acoustic wave. You'll
hear it. It's going to turn on the cell wave.
It's going to mass that to a light wave. Infrared
near infra red foreign for red light waves, and it's
going to sync that with a pulse electromagnetic field wave,
a magnetic wave, so I got sound white and magnetism.

(52:56):
When they harmonize. Every cellular structure is audio response. And
then you put these these data weave headphones on and
it runs and data frequency into the brain. Man a
nows what. There is no sensation of the passage of time.
So you get on here got ten to twelve minutes
either this treatment, you're out. And I've been on here

(53:18):
after a shot off for ninety minutes, and I thought
five minutes to go on, but in fact I got
on a year before. It podcasts the other day and
my production manager came in and woke me up behind
a minuteslater it was like, hey, we got to shoot.
So it helps you sleep. What else does It resets
your brain? It allows your brain to really calm, damp
put you in a FATA state, very low brainwaybare activity

(53:39):
in those days. Think about the last time that you
actually didn't have the fuck. But what does that do
for you? If it gives your basically it's given you
a right to rest bring your brain okay. So if
your brain gets a rest once it gets that rest,
and what happens to you after that when you come
out of that state. So when you get off the
hear I feel a little bit groggy for about five,
five or ten minutes, and then all of a sudden,

(54:00):
you feel like YouTube but limitless pit. It's like you're clear,
you're clean, you're cognizing your aw weights, you're focused. It's
just a feeling of clarity and zen. That's as hard
to describe. If you talk to somebody who's really mastered
the art of meditation, they'll tell you the same thing.
I come out of the meditative state and I could
problem solve. My stress is gone. It seems like the

(54:23):
problems of the world have melted away. You're back focused
on my purpose. You know, my problems have shrunk. It's meditation.
If you can harness, it is a longevity and brain
life hack, and that is how you start your day.
We got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Welcome back to Steven Nick Smithshaw right here over the
digital airways of YouTube and beyond. Of course, just saw
some video of this man doing his morning routine the
PMF Matt you know, I mean, I mean red therapy,
Red zone, red light therapy, red light therapy, had that
going on, the cold plunge.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Don't get me start which we are going after this,
you're going to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Don't tell audience that. Please don't tell audience that. I'm
trying to get out of that right now.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Due we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
There's so much stuff that you've done. But not just
the critics, but the average viewer would say, I don't
have access to all of that. I can't do that.
Stephen A's on television every day. He's got he's got
an advantage. This guy is Gary Breker. He's a superstar
in this business now made god and gobs of money
because Tenex Health is so successful. The ultimate human is

(55:29):
so successful, you know, I mean they're living in a
different world.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
So that you say, what to that, I say that
all that stuff that you just saw out there is
all it's doing is mimicking what we get from other nature.
We get three things from other nature. We get magnetism
from the earth, we get oxygen from the air, and
we get light from the sun. So the truth is,
if you want to know how to do it for zero,
you got to get back in contact with the surface

(55:55):
of the earth. I know it sounds crazy, but there
is something called earthing or grounding. It is very real.
Taking your shoes off and touching the surface of the earth,
you discharge into the earth. You can actually repolarize the
body by touching the surface of the earth. So take
your shoes off. Think about it. If you're listening to
this podcast right now, think about the last time that
you have bare feet touching bear soil, I mean dirt, grass, sand,

(56:17):
That was the last time you discharged into the earth.
Then you can actually learn to do breath work very simple.
You know, I read a statistic. I don't know if
it's true. I didn't look up the study. I got
a lot of trouble for repeating it online, but this
it said. There was an article that said that after
the age of thirty, ninety five percent of all human
beings will never sprint again for the rest of their life.

(56:39):
It made a lot of sense to me, because, you know,
when I started looking at the environment in the world
around me, even the athletes that that you know, people
that go into the gym every day, nobody is sprinting, right,
so we're not using our auxiliary muscles of respiration. Are
inner costals. There's those muscles that really help us breathe.
And basically, you know, our life expectancy is directly related

(57:02):
to our oxygen level. We used to call it a
hypoxic curve. We would use this curve to predict the
onset of and the severity of and how quickly people
would succumb to disease. We're actually we all actually die
of the same thing. We die of hypoxia, lack of
oxygen to the brain. That's the definition of death. Now
it might be a heart attack and gunshot, you know,
a stroke, a bus, but the point is that we

(57:26):
are not getting enough oxygen into our bodies. We don't
even use our auxiliary muscles of respiration anymore.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
But you're telling folks what to do, and they should
have denied because clearly you know what you're talking about.
But they'll look at you and they'll say you're not
doing it because of all the things that they just
saw you do, the machines that you have there.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
But I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
They're telling this, say, Gary, you're telling us to do that,
but are you doing it?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yes, So when I'm on the road, I am absolutely
doing that. If you have the fortune to be able
to mimic mother nature by buying some of this equipment
and putting it in your house for convenience than by
all means do it and post you've done it, stop
badgering and attacking the people that do. But if you don't,
you can get all of those things that I just
went through on that and that little talk. You can

(58:14):
take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth,
that is like using a PMF met. You can learn
to do breath work, that is like that hypermax oxygen system.
You can instead of taking getting into a cold plunge,
you can take a cold shower. Everybody's going to take
a shower. If you live in the Midwest or the Northeast,
you got the advantage of having really cold water.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
What's more advantageous the cold plunge or the shower? Because
I remember you use one time alluding to the cold
plunge being about twenty nine percent better, it's twenty shower.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
But yeah, so water is twenty nine times more thermogenic
than air, which means it removes heat from the body
at twenty nine times the rate of air. Okay, so
when you get in a cold plunge, heat is leaving
your body at twenty nine times the rate of air
at the same temperature. That's why you can die of
hypothermia in seventy two degree you can't die of hypothermia

(59:01):
in seventy two degree air. Right, So but if again,
maybe the cold plunge is the best, But it's good
to take a cold shower. I'm telling you. Aging is
the aggressive pursuit of comfort. The more aggressively we pursue comfort,
the faster we ate. So what if you woke up
in the morning, took your shoes off, touch the surface
of the earth, actually took your shirt off, and exposed

(59:22):
your skin to sunlight during the first forty five minutes
of the day. It's called first light. No UVA, no
UVB raised, no damaging rays. Healthy blue light resets your cortisol,
resets your melatonin receptors, does more to turn your circadian
rhythm back on and put you into a deep sleep
that night than any drug that you could take. Touch
the surface of the earth, you do some breath work

(59:43):
in the morning, you expose your skin to sunlight, and
you take a cold shower. Run that for a week.
Run those four things for zero for one week. Take
a one to three minute cold shower. Take three rounds
of five obnoxiously deep breasts, and in between each round
the breast, hold your breath as long as you can.
Why because you want to drive up the carbon dioxide

(01:00:04):
level and dilate the vessels in your body. Carbon dioxide
is the main vaso dilator in the human body. So
we can access these things. The question is will people
do them right? So the excuse of seeing somebody with
one hundred thousand dollars like bet is I can't do that.
Yes you can. You can take your shirt off, you
can expose it to sunlight. So wake up tomorrow, touch
the surface of the earth, do a few rounds of
breath work, expose your skin the sunlight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Take a cold shower. But here's the flips. I see.
Because I thought you liked me. I really did, until
until until until you insisted, did I get that damn
cold plunch?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
And that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I mean it's God I got from you. I still
haven't recovered from you exposed to me to that damn
cold place. To go ahead, give my audience, give my
audience the whole lowdown for the the cold plunge. Stephen A.
Smith Exit first you subjected me to by the way,

(01:01:00):
let me talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
First of all, he literally tried to convince me that
black people do not get in a cold plunge.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
He literally pulled the race.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Card on me. Dude, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I tried, and I said, well, Steve, Steve Harty, that's true,
exactly right. One of the black guys off cameras like,
he's actually right about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
He's like, first of all, black people don't get a
cold plunch. And I was like, all right, Steven, and
you got to believe. You told me the cole Steve Hawk,
I told you, called Steve Harvey, and he gave you.
He gave you a whole line, he gave you a
whole ration. But uh he was to your defense. You
got the cold plunge and the very first day you

(01:01:41):
got in it for the very first time for six minutes.
I remember that. And You're like, exactly how cold does
this have to be to be a cold plunge, because
and you said fifty eight degrees fifty eight degrees, Yeah,
that's where you start cold plunging. Now, fifty forty eight
to fifty is better. But I said, fifty eight degrees
and to your credit, you got in for six minutes

(01:02:02):
fifty eight degrees right, and then it became your drug
of choice. I told you that would happen. Because you
get that peripheral vaso constriction, you drive that blood into
your core. It goes up to your brain, your liver,
your lungs, your pancreas, your kidneys. You get a rush
of dopamine that lasts hours, not minutes. You get an
elevation in dopamine in those and dopamine does what for you.

(01:02:25):
It's what Dopamine is the main driver of behavior. Dopamine
is one of those neurotransmitters that elevates your mood. The
enderfins that you get from the runners high or the
exercise high. It's one of those neurotransmitters that drives mood.
It just elevates your mood. And then you activate something
called brown fat. In the human body, you turn a

(01:02:46):
thermostad on, right. You exchange calories for heat by activating
brown fat, because once you cool the body off, there's
a cost to return to normal body temperature, and that
cost is calories. So you feel so awake, so clean.
And there's also a special type of protein in your
liver called a cold shock protein. There's also heat shock proteins,
and I've been down the rabbit hole of these cold

(01:03:09):
shock proteins lately. There's win one called LIND twenty eight
A and LIN twenty eight b, and they're highly associated
with an improvement in insulin sensitivity. So now the cold
plunge is being linked to things like improving your insulin sensitivity,
reducing body fat. And yes, if you activate brown fat
and increase your metabolism and improve your caloric expenditure, you

(01:03:31):
actually should be burning more fat. An elevation in mood,
an elevation and emotional state, a prolonged elevation, and dopamine.
And you can access this for free. The reason why
people don't want to do it is they don't want
to leave their comfort zone tomorrow morning.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Just try it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Just take you. Don't lather up to your soap, take
your shower, turn the shower as cold as it will get.
Step out of that stream. Let it get nice and cold.
Take a deep breath, step into that water stream and
just deal with it. Just deal with it for sixty seconds.
You'll get through it. And if you can push that
to three minutes, dry off and see how you feel.
The whites of your eyes will be crystal clear. You

(01:04:07):
will be wide awake and cognizant and clear. You'll have
that elevated enderfen rush, and you'll feel that way for hours.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
When we started off the show with this interview, for
the interview again, I showed a picture of me from
a year ago. Skinny fat, no definition, no really muscle,
pot belly, two hundred and eight pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
That much tough to look at me. When you send
me some of those old pictures, I'm like, I look, remember,
I lean that round. I look at it every day.
I look at every edge of my number one source
of information inspiration. I wake up every morning and I
look at that picture of myself because I say, never
ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Body fat was at twenty nine point six percent. Instantly
resistant levels was at twenty seven. Cholesterol was at three
oh one. I think it was three oh one. I
was at that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Your trunk lytrods were over three hundred, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
And my A one C levels that was at six
three six four. You sue, full blown diabetic that was
at six three. That's right, it's still A. Resistant levels
dropped from twenty seven to two. Cholesterol dropped and now
one seventy six right yesterday, I'm looking I'm looking at
that's right, I'm looking at that lean muscle. I've gained
about five six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Not only not on the verge of diabetes, which you
are a tenth of a point away, you are not
even pre diabetic anymore. Your normal but sugar. You have
single digit insulin maintaining low levels of average blucher, which
means you are more insulin, more insolent sensitive. That is
a great sign. It's one of the hallmarks of longevity.

(01:05:42):
Cholesterols down to one seventy nine can then we just
mentioned you are not on cholesterol medication.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I'll just put that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
In fact, you're not on any cardiovascuar medication. Your your testosterone.
This is gonna be really hard for people to believe,
but your testosterone level is approaching one thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
And you are not on testosterone, for the record, and
that's crazy. I mean, I'm wondering. You know, I might
explain a lot of things very very positive. Well, you
know what I'm saying, I got the testosterone level of
a thirty year and I'm not really I'm not using
anything to get me there. You know, I'm just saying,
you know, I mean, it's a good feeling. It's a

(01:06:20):
good feeling. But but but but in all seriousness, Gary,
of all the things that the condition that I was
in and and the things that you had me doing,
what stood out in your mind as the most dangerous
element of my condition when you first met me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
What stood out to me was, I know, from being
in the mortality space and that mortality factors, Okay, domino obesity, hypertension, uh,
which which you had a time, which you don't anymore, hypertension, elevated,
very elevated cholesterol, very elevated. Truck this right, it's very
elevated insulin. So these these we call them mortality factors.

(01:07:05):
At some point they begin to converge, and when they
touch they become comorbidities, and there is a parabolic impact
on the body, meaning a dramatically negative impact on the body.
These were converging. In my opinion, and I'm not a
licensed medical professional, so just give you my private opinion

(01:07:28):
as a human biologist. Being on the doorstep of being
an insulin dependent diabetic was your greatest risk factor. And
the reason why I say that is when we would
do mortality modeling. What happens is people slowly their blood
sugar rises, and it rises, and it rises over time,
and they become pre diabetic and they sort of creep

(01:07:48):
through this diabetic category five point six, five point seven,
five point eight. As soon as they cross this six
point zero mark, they're four tenths of point away from
being diabetic. Is a parabolic rise, and it happens very fast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
It may take years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
You can spend years in the pre diabetic range, and
once you get to the top end of the range,
it explodes. Once that insulin takes off, and then it
eventually crashes and the blood sugar takes off. Now all
hell breaks loose, the triglyceride skyrocket, the cholesterol gets out
of control, the abdominal obesity gets worse, and now instead

(01:08:26):
of something that took you two years to occur month
over month over month, it gets worse. And we saw
this in the mortality space. So I felt, and I
told you this at the time, that it was very
serendipitous that we met at the time that you did,
and also that you were as committed. And I think,
you know, when I look back on it, I remember
thinking in my mind, Okay, I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna

(01:08:49):
shut these guys headache. I'm gonna sut this guy's headaches
down right away. I'm gonna give him a glimpse in
the next seven days of what it's like to feel normal,
because you told me you felt amazing, and I reminded
you you didn't feel amazing, you just felt normal. Because
I knew that if I could shut headaches down, if
we you shut the headaches down, and I can make
you have a glimpse of how good it feels to
feel normal in just a seven day period of time,

(01:09:11):
then the hook would set because I have to have
you on the team. You know, I mean, let's not
you know, let's not poo pooh. The fact that you
put into work. You you changed your diet up, you
made lifestyle modifications, you made dietary changes, you committed to
going into the gym.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
You know that was on you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
But the point is that you have to give people
a glimpse of how good it feels to feel normal
to set that hook. Same with Dana White and saying
with every client that I work with with our clinical team,
is I try to very quickly give them a glimpse.
It was like to be all the way on the
other side and they're like, wow, I feel amazing, and

(01:09:53):
then you don't want to go back. That's what you
kept saying. You're like, I'm never going back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
How are you w I cannot. I went from being
conniving and slick and trying to avoid the gym to
be a pissed off that I missed going.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
To the gym.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I know that's how I went. And I'll ask you
a question. You know what, Listen, Because I'm everybody knows
I'm very Yes, I'm on ESPN. Yes, I've got my
podcast and my show here. Everybody knows a lot about me,
but they also know I'm incredibly private. I don't divulge
a lot of stuff about myself because, damn it, today
people's business and I tell them to go kiss off.
I ain't telling everybody's stuff. But when it came to

(01:10:26):
the issue of health, I felt obviously differently because COVID
it was I was, I was very public. Everybody could
see the damage that it had done to me, et cetera,
et cetera. So let me right here on my own
show ask you something that I never wanted to know.
And that is now that I'm out of the wood,
I'm a little better. I'm a little I say a

(01:10:48):
lot better, but I'm only saying a little because i
know where I'm aiming to go. You know, if you
had to give my life expect to see back a
year ago, now that is a year later. I mean,
I think I'm ready to around what you would have
told me. What would you have told me if I
wanted to be Dana and I wanted my life expected.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Well, it would have been substantially less than it is now,
right because what would have happened you? And for the record,
I want to I want to say that you can't
just do a blood test and a gene testing to
predict when somebody is going to die. I've done one
life expectancy prediction since I left the industry, and that
was Dana White. I do not do it any and

(01:11:30):
he asked me to. He actually made it a condition
on me meeting with him. And because when I left
that industry, I left that industry for good because I
I want to forget that that time in my life.
It's actually what propels me forward. Right now, I think
that I've found my purpose in that pain. You know,

(01:11:50):
I've thankfully turned it around from really regretting regretting that
time to saying, okay, but that's where I gain my education,
and that's where I got the knowledge to turn around
and help people. But in your case, what was very
close to happening was the convergence of these mortality factors
on mortality debts, and like I say, when they become comorbidities,

(01:12:11):
it's a very dangerous situation. And one of the things
that we would try to do in the mortality spaces
we would try to predict the chances that somebody would change.
We would try to predict the chances that we could
continue this mortality factor for a prolonged period of time.
And the majority of people do not make a change,

(01:12:34):
and they are leaving this earth years earlier than they should.
And there, like you said, they stop living and they
become alive for many, many more years than they need
to be, and then they die earlier than they should
because they are not willing to modify these risk factors.
And so I would simply say that it has more

(01:12:57):
than doubled the amount of time that you have left
on Earth, that I'm certain of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
But to be exact.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I didn't didn't run those numbers, but more than double.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
What kind of trouble it's society in right now compared
to a decade ago, two decades ago. The food, the
processed foods, ye, the carbonated drinks, the alcohol, the troubles
would sleep. There's so many things that affect human beings,

(01:13:31):
and we see the world that we're living in and
it just seems to be so much more temptation. Like
one of the things that frustrates me about what you
tell me is when you tell me to stay off sugar,
I'm like, a, I mean everything has sugar. I mean,
hell can I step with? I mean, shoot, sometimes water
tastes like I got a little sugar in it for
crying out. I mean I just thought, you just look
at it and you just lose it because it's like

(01:13:53):
you're trying to figure out how to do it, but
it seems virtually impossible. I'm wondering as we sit here today,
you're reflecting on all that you know, all that you've learned,
all that you continue to learn and ultimately try to
teach to the world. Yes, how much trouble are we
in as a society health wise coopids. What it was
a decade ago, two decades.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Well, a decade ago, life expectancy was still moving forward
for the first time in measurable life expectancy history. Our
life expectancy is getting shorter. The United States is the
number one spender in healthcare worldwide. We spent about four
and a half trillion dollars a year on healthcare. We
lead the world in five things. We lead the world
in having the lowest life expectancy at birth, We lead

(01:14:35):
the world in infant mortality, and we lead the world
in maternal mortality. We lead the world in type two
diabetes and obesity, and we lead the world in chronic
multiple disease conditions, so meaning the highest number of chronic
diseases in a single body. And we are ranked thirty

(01:14:56):
second in the world in life expectancy, ninth in healthcare delivery.
So we know this spending does not equate to outcomes.
Medical error is the third leading cause of death in
this country. It only trails cardiovasco disease and cancer. That's
a twenty sixteen study by JOHNS. Hopkins. So we have

(01:15:18):
to become citizen scientists. We have to take our healthcare
into our own hands. And I am not saying if
you hit a windshield and cut your face, you got
to go to the doctor. If you get pain going
down to the left side of your body, you need
to go to the er. What I am saying is,
if you want to be in a state of optimal health,
it is up to you, because the medical system is
not going to do that. And so I've developed a

(01:15:39):
couple of simple rules, and one of them is that
we should think about putting this invisible fence around our bodies,
and we should filter things before they get to the temple,
rather than allowing our temple to be the filter. Certainly,
we should filter our tap water. If you want to
know the filter that I use, I put it right
up on my Instagram. If you want to know any
of the sultlements are ducks, I use some of them.

(01:16:00):
I have affiliations with some I don't. They're all on
my Instagram. But the point being that we should be
filtering our water. We should be eating whole foods. It's
not keto, paleo, raw food, vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian. It is
whole foods. The problem now with most of the food
that we eat, it's not the food that we're eating.
It's the distance from the food to the table.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
We take a we take a seed oil like a
canola oil, which you know if you if you if
you press certain seed oil plants, I mean they're they're
they're they're harmless. But then we take that seed oil
and we degum it with and it comes out gummy,
and we degum it with hexine and no no neurotox
and then we heat it to four hundred and five
degrees and we turn it rancid, and then we deodorize
it with sodium hydroxide, which is a known carcinogen, and

(01:16:46):
then we bottle it and we put it on the
shelf and we and we feed this to the public.
The amount of pesticide, herbicide, insecticide, glyphosates, and preservatives that
are in our food are not recognized by the body.
You know, if you're great grandmother wouldn't recognize it, you
probably should need it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I want to try to teach people simple ways. I
do this thing on my Instagram and social media. I
call it lateral shifts, where I will take any food
that anyone likes to eat and make them too promises
they open their refrigerator, I do it live. They open
their refrigerator, and I'll take any food that they like
to eat. I'll make them too. Promises number one, I
won't change the flavor profile, and number two, I will
not add a penny to the budget. I am allowed

(01:17:27):
to make it less expensive, but not allowed to make
it more expensive. To show people that you can take
these lateral shifts from these highly processed foods. You can
exchange it for whole foods, more nutrient dense foods. You
don't have to be It's not about fear mongering. It's
about awareness. It's about education, and it's about understanding that
you can go into the grocery store, shop the perimeter
of the grocery store, get everything that you need that's

(01:17:50):
not processed, that doesn't have all the folic acids and
the fortified and enriched flowers and things like that, and
you can materially change the trajectory of your life life
by making some very very simple choice.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Isn't it as simple as you make it sound? Because
you're so knowledgeable, it might sound significantly more complicated to
somebody who doesn't know any better, and one who is
also inclined to listen to a medical profession where we've
already conceded the money's in the medicine. I mean, how

(01:18:23):
do you combat that if you're just a regular old joe,
you know, or so trying to make some you know,
trying to make an honest live and trying to live
a good life, and you're dependent on the easiest path
to prosperity because life is just so complicated when you
bring all those other things into the equation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
When you've got to become a citizen scientist, you have
to educate yourself. If not, you will eventually pay the price.
I mean, And so it depends on what your priorities are.
And when I ask the majority of the people where
health and wellness is and their priority, they always tell
me it's at the top. Well, then where are you
spending your time? What are you reading? What are you're

(01:19:05):
educating yourself on? You know, if I gave you a
book on yourself, would you even read it? And why
do you have more information on your on your on
your business than you have on your own temple? And
the basics are you start with a gene test and
supplement for deficiency and then eventually you work your way
to getting some information from from blood work. Look at

(01:19:27):
your look at your hormone balance, your nutrient deficiencies, and
your blood sugar control. Just start there. You get those
pieces of data, you will materially change the trajectory of
your life. And your primary care doctor can do that
for you. Maybe not the gene test, but your primary
care doctor can do everything else. We're sitting here in
your I don't even know what to call this. I'm

(01:19:49):
not going to tell the audience, but it's immaculate. It's
I mean, thank you. You've got some property here. You
got a wonderful wife. I've been very blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
You got one for kids. You got a lot going
on for yourself. I got a couple of people here.
One's married, he knows wide open, he's in love with
his wife. He don't know what to do with himself. Okay,
I got another dude that that I mean, he is
about to get married. He proposed to his girl. He

(01:20:19):
was the one crying. He was the one crying.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Nahuh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I mean, I mean, you can't make this up. I
mean I would say happiness, peace. That goes a long
way towards making yourself healthy. Heymen, is that an exaggeration?
Is that accurate? What can you tell me about that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
So think about this when you look at the blues
esone research around the world, right, and you look at
blues oone researchers, where they did, you know, the longest
life expectancies on earth, you know, the centenarians and the
hyper centenarians. What you found was not a lot of
commonality between the diets. Right, you had the Mediterranean diet,
you had people that carbohydrate diets like in Sardinia. You
had people like in Singapore, they actually high volumes of meat,

(01:21:08):
high meat and saturated fat, and you have you have
this prolonged life expectancy. There were some common themes that
ran through all of these and two of them were
Number one was mobility into late in life. Sitting is
the new smoking. Sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of
all cause mortality. Sitting is the new smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Sitting is as bad as smoking.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Sitting is worse than smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Show I got to sit down for first take. I mean,
what because you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Move your ass, you get in the gym every day.
But I'm saying, like, the sedentary lifestyle is the leading
cause of all cause mortality and you know, we are
just not moving anymore. We don't even have to move
to get food, right, I mean you got uber eats,
you got instacart, and and and so you know the happiness.

(01:21:59):
If you were to ask me, Gary, what is happiness?
What is emotion?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
What is a mood?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Well, it's a collection of neurotransmitters bound to oxygen. So
when you deprive the blood of oxygen, you actually deprive
your body's ability to access certain moods. The reason why
nobody has ever woken up laughing. No human being has
ever woken up laughing. The reason why no human being
has ever woken up laughing is you don't have the
oxidative state to experience laughter. But can you wake up angry? Yes,

(01:22:30):
because anger does not that emotional state does not require oxygen,
doesn't require an high oxidative state.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
In the body.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
So if you want to experience the up range of
emotion passion, elation, joy, arousal, libido, all the hell yeah,
I want the lottery kind of emotions, you got to
get oxygen into your body. You got to get blood
float to the brain so you can actually experience those
emotional states. So when you say happiness, yes, Happiness can
be getting married. Happiness can be getting a new car

(01:22:59):
or new boat, to moving into the house of your dreams.
But happiness comes from your physiology. Happiness comes from having
a purpose, and happiness comes from having the right nutrients
in the body. So you can make neurotransmitters to experience
that mood. You know, it's interesting. You know serotonin, which
is the main driver of emotion, this mood, This neurotransmitter, serotonin.

(01:23:21):
Do you know what we make it from. We make
it from an amino acid called trip the fan. So
is it possible that a simple deficiency and trip the
fan an amino acid, could cause a deficiency in this neurotransmitter. Yes,
this is what I mean about nutrients missing from the
human body. Do you know how many times I saw
people walk into their primary care doctor with a clinical
deficiency in vitamin D three, and without even doing the

(01:23:43):
proper testing, the doctor goes, you know what, steved, You've
got rheumatoid arthritis. And why would he say that, Because
the symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis very often mimic the symptoms
of clinical deficiency in vitamin D three. All you have
is a nutrient deficiency. Now you're diagnosed with a disease.
You know what happens once you're diagnosed with that disease.
They put you on something called a corticosteroid. And you

(01:24:04):
know what a corticosteroid does. Initially it causes a reduction
of inflammation, but then it eats the joint like a termite.
And now six years later you're having a joint replacement.
And as soon as you have the joint replacement, you
don't ambulate as well, you're not as mobile, and as
soon as you reduce mobility start to bring in all
the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility. So if you
run this back, you died of a disease that you

(01:24:26):
never should have had, because of a surgery that wasn't required,
because of medication that you did not need, because of
a disease.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
That you didn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
You had a nutrient deficiency.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
And this is what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
We are not as sick or pathological as we think.
We are nutrient deficient.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Times. And having said that, have you ever thought about this?
Just got a couple more questions in this interview. Have
you ever thought about the fact that what all that
you know, all the knowledge that you have, all that
you've espoused. What level of pressure that puts on you.
One would think the pressure is, oh, keep knowing what
you're talking about. I'm thinking about something else. We bet

(01:25:07):
and not see you depressed. No, we better not see
you lipping around. We better not see you looking angry.
We better not see an abundance of things that you
just spoke about.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
If your body has these kind of things inside of it,
you're going to be in optimum health and as a result,
you're not going to be subjected to some of the
things that normal folks are subjected to. Have you ever
thought about that at all and what kind of pressure
it puts on you. It's almost like somebody being in
the public eye and they got to watch every little
thing that they do an act and actress and athlete,

(01:25:38):
et cetera, et cetera. Somewhat folks might look at you
and say, that's the stratosphere you're approaching to that You.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Say, what, Well, I have an obligation to be authentic
about what I say. So the lifestyle that I leave
behind the scenes is the same lifestyle that I put
on Instagram. I did three hours of live zooms today.
I took the laptop and walked around the house. I

(01:26:05):
show all of the the I show what I use
in my daily life on the on the Ultimate Human podcast.
You will never see an ad read. You will never
see me become a prostitute for products or services, and
believe me, it comes my way. I have a hard
and fast rule that I do not promote anything that
I do not use in my daily life every day

(01:26:25):
in my daily life, or that I do not have
first hand knowledge of. And you will never see me
this CBD gummy and this multi vitamin and this energy drink,
and unless I am using that in my daily life
or I have firsthand knowledge of it. You saw that
graveyard of products in the back of my condo back there.
I am incessant about testing things because I want people

(01:26:47):
to understand that. You know, I want to take the
products that do not have a voice, that are doing
the right thing for humanity, and I want to give
them a voice. My partner said to me, Grant Cardone
said to me one time, he said, Gary, what's more
important the best product or the best known product? And
I'll never forget because I said, well, probably for revenue,

(01:27:08):
it's probably the best known product, which is why I
am going to give a voice to the best products.
I want to push them up through the noise, like
the real grass fed farms, the real you know, the
cereals that are not bad for kids, the snacks that
actually have nutrients in them and are not full of
like pesticides and herbicides and food colorings and high sodiums.

(01:27:32):
To give a voice to those things. So it makes
the choices for people easier about how to how to
navigate this. But it is a crazy amount of pressure, Stephen,
especially the amount of vitriol that I get from from
you know, really just trying to do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
To the misconceptions about you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Top misconceptions about me, Wow, that's a that's a great question.
I would say the top miss conceptions about me are
that I'm driven by I'm driven by money, and that's
an success was a byproduct of being in service to humanity.
It wasn't the quest. It's so funny because initially all

(01:28:15):
I really wanted to do was be wealthy, and I
couldn't create any wealth. And then I decided that I
wanted to focus on people's well being, and then I
became wealthy, and now everybody accuses you because of your
level of success, of having some kind of ulterior motive.
It's the same thing I see them do to clients
of mind that had dramatic changes in their life, and

(01:28:35):
they always want to tear it down and say they
must have cheated. But a lot of times, people like
yourself and Dana and others are just putting in the work.
They really did, just put into work.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Last question, when you see me, when you see Dana.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
We're about to be neighbors, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
When you see it, hopefully, when we see Dana, when
you see Steve Harvey, when you see so many of us,
you talk about us and our willingness to have put
in the work. In the end, when you look at
America out there and you're talking them to them and
trying to encourage them to put into work, so ultimately

(01:29:13):
there's a level of health that they can achieve that
will make them feel wealthy in and of themselves. What's
the best advice you can give to them to get
them started to jumpstart their lives for the better.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
The word wealth is actually derived from the word well being,
to be well in being, so to be wealthy used
to mean to be healthy, and so that's that's the
root of that word, you know. I'll tell you just
a quick story. I was on an episode of Access
Hollywood a few weeks ago, and it was at Universal
Studios and the Access Hollywood stages in the center of

(01:29:49):
the park, and they actually picked me up at the
back and I was getting walked through the park by
security and and I was just looking around. You know,
you see this heavy set grandma. She's in a motorized
wheel chair. She's got a two liter or soda and
inner thing. Then you see heavy set and mother in
the fanny pack. And then you see a really really
heavy set even obese kid that's just entering puberty. And

(01:30:12):
I made a comment to the security guard it his
answer just really struck me. It blew me away. And
I was just trying to be funny. I said, what's
with all the fanny packs. It's like a fanny pack
pandemic up here. And he said, oh, you know, they
can't put their hands in their pockets. And I was like, wow,
these guys are all wearing fantybacks because they can't put
their hand in their pockets. And I look over and
there's a kid that must have been thirteen years old,

(01:30:34):
and he's sitting on a He's sitting on one of
the benches and he has a sixty four ounce big
gulp in his hand, and he's got a paper with
a funnel cake on it, a plastic I mean a
paper plate with a funnel cake on it. Well, the
funnel cake is it's deep fried white flour in seed
oil with ten X sugar on it, and sixty four
ounce big golf. I start running the math in my head.
I'm like, there's thirty nine teaspoons of sugar in his

(01:30:56):
right hand. It's another fifty grams sugar in his left
hand that's soaked in seed oils with ten X sugar
on it. And I realized, Like, to me, it actually
made me a little angry. I wanted to go to
the mother and be like, this is child abuse, but
I realized that they just don't know. And so that's
why my message is for the masses, because I truly

(01:31:19):
think that people really don't know, and there are some
simple choices that they could make. So here's what I
would tell everybody listening to this podcast. You want to
feel that the best that you've felt in the last
five years, to decade of your life for no money.
Number One, wake up tomorrow morning. Try to wake up
with the sun. If you can expose your skin to sunlight,

(01:31:43):
go outside and get first light. Just get the benefit
of this beautiful blue light with no UVA uv B
light rays damaging rays in the morning. Expose your skin
to that sunlight. Do three rounds of five deep breasts
with a breath holding between. Come back in and take
a cold shower. Just tell me how good that one

(01:32:05):
choice makes you feel, and let that be the start
of your journey where you go out and get information
on your body and you start to make a change.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Based on that data. I'm a skeptical individual. I've gone
through doctor I've gone to doctors all my life. I
still go to doctors. You've never discouraged me from going
to a doctor. I still train all the time. You've
encouraged me to train as often as I possibly could,

(01:32:34):
and to seek encouragement. I'm all my supplement protocol. I've
changed my diet. But so much of what has happened
to me is because of how you got it me.
And I just want to let you know for my audience,
I appreciate it. There's so many components that come with it,
and I get that, but it has to start somewhere,

(01:32:55):
and it has to start with you knowing exactly what's
wrong and attacking the immediate problems so you can begin
to cure your body. I have felt better than I
have felt in thirty years, and I'm just getting started.
Thank you from the bottom of my.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
House for all got you've done. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I definitely appreciate it. The one and only Gary Brecker
right here with Steven A. Smith. That's my journey. You
see the man that's helped me get here. There's no
question about that. I know how I feel about you.
The proof is in the put it, damn it. I
look in the mirror now compared to how I didn't
want to look in the mirror a year ago. That's
how it goes. This is the Stephen A. Smith Show.
That's the one and only Gary Record. Thank him so

(01:33:34):
much again for your for your time, your energy, your knowledge,
and everything like that. I hope you all enjoyed this episode.
I hope you make sure to prioritize your health. There
is no wealth without health. You heard him say it,
You've heard me say it a million times. I'm gonna
tell it to you again. This is why I got
so many so much energy. That's why I have so
many jobs. This is why I could continue to flow
the way that I flow, because I'm actually trying to

(01:33:56):
take care of myself. I hope that was inspirational. It
should be. We'll talk about this in the days, the weeks,
and the months to come. For Gary Bracket, this is
Stephen A Smith signing all a piece of love everybody
until next time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Thank you, Billy

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