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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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yourself a copy. Let's get started right out the gate,
y'all with my first guest. He's a political commentator, doesn't
call himself conservatives. He says he's independent on television and radio,
he's a personality there as well. He's an author who
is probably best known as host of his former show,
The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News Channel. You can catch
him every weeknight at six pm Eastern on the No

(01:48):
Spin News. Please welcome the man himself, the one and
only Bill O'Reilly. Welcome to the show. Sir, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm the same, which is tragic for everyone, but insistency
there is something to be said for it.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
How would you describe yourself? Let me just start out
there right when you say I'm the same, much to
the chagrine of everyone, what would you describe yourself as being?
Bill O'Reilly?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Independent thinker, bloviator, provocateur, at times okay, judgmental okay.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And very Irish American.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
You do know that when you say you're an independent,
a lot of people say, you know what, Steven, and
when you're gonna ask that man when the last time
he voted for a Democrat because they can't see you
vote for a Democrat when they when you say you're
I like, you said that independent thinker, but usually you
just say independent. And what I'm saying is is that
you know what he says, he's an independent. I'm going
to believe him. I call myself an independent. Let let's

(02:51):
not throw skepticism this man's way, But could you see
yourself voting for a Democrat? Have your voted for a
Democrat in recent memory? Bill O'Reilly?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I voted if it's Swazi in November the congressman in
the third district. He's a Democrat and I know him well.
I think he's an honest man. So I voted for
him because the Republican didn't really advance anything. In my eyes,
that overrode what I know about Swashi. Look, the people

(03:22):
who try to pigeonhole me don't know anything about me.
They don't know how I analyze the news. They don't
understand my philosophy because they believe what they want to believe.
And I'm used to it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
But let me interject. I get the part about they
want to believe what they want to believe. But you
can't say they don't really know you. I mean, Bill,
You've been on the after how many years? How many
days we know you? Little bit a fifty ye? How
they don't know you? Bill?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
But it's a segmented audience. We had an enormous audience
and we do today. Millions and millions of people every
day watch me in some capacity and on Fox record
number sixteen years, consecutive number one. But the audience that
will devote time to listening to me is primarily traditional,

(04:19):
not conservative. The far right. They don't like me at all.
They attack me all the time, but it's a traditional
audience because they know where I'm coming from. The liberal
audience we had about because we did analytics. When I
was at Fox, it was sixty percent traditional, twenty percent

(04:43):
non aligned in twenty percent liberal that would watch us
on a daily basis. Now it's ninety five conservative traditional
at Fox. They've lost that. So we know that most
liberals they don't want to listen to O'Reilly, and they
believe what they want to believe. But here's a good

(05:03):
and interesting point for you. When I do shows like
John Stewart, there's an enormous audience on the left for
those shows, and they don't come out of it hating me.
In fact, my last appearance on David Letterman, I got
a standing oh for Letterman, who did his best to
try to make me look foolish, a standing oh. It

(05:27):
shocked him. So I think that I have a broader appeal.
But I agree with you that a lot of people
think that I'm some kind of conservative ideologue.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Who dislikes you more the left, or the extreme left
or the extreme right.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, the left for sure, okay, because I have very
little tolerance for the woke people. The extreme right is
much narrower. It's a much more narrow crew than the left.
The left has really made in roads in this country,

(06:05):
and they control the Democratic Party. The far left does
at this point, whereas the right has not done that.
You know, Donald Trump's not an idea logue. He couldn't
give you any kind of verse about the Republican Party
or ideology. He's more of a deal maker. But his
audience is maga, and so he plays to that audience.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know, when we think about you know this Sunday, Westbury,
New York, three pm Eastern Standard time, You're gonna have
the Three Americans Live event, myself, you, and the one
and only Chris Cuomo. You see the promo right there. Yes,
I have been. I have been promoting it every single day,
every single show Bill o'rally, as I've been instructed by
someone who will remain nameless, but it's sitting right in

(06:48):
front of me. The point that I'm saying, Bill, is this,
when we see this event coming up, what do you
believe and what would you articulate to the audience that
we're going to give them that they haven't seen before?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Excellent question. So I did this as an experiment to
see if we could meld three different audiences into one
enjoyable afternoon. And I'm not sure whether we're going to
succeed or not. We'll succeed as far as capacity in

(07:24):
the theater. We sold a lot of tickets, But will
the audiences get along, will there be an equal amount
of different thinkers? I don't know, But I did it
because I am tired of the choir. One of the
reasons that you are successful both in sports and now

(07:45):
you're making a move into policy is because people don't
know what you're gonna say, and you say, I would passion,
and so that unpredictability about Steven A. Smith attracts an audience.
Same thing with me Homo a little bit more doctor
Naire left, although he's changed a little bit. When you
say the one and only Chris Cuomo, I almost applauded.

(08:08):
We really don't need another one. But he's there and
we are going to listen to what he has to say.
But I want to show the country and we're going
to shoot this, by the way, for TV. I'm not
going to run it. It's more of a pilot situation.
But you have to come see us if you want
to see what we do. But I'm hoping that we
can meld this so that everybody has a good time,

(08:32):
even if you disagree or you are a different mindset
than the person sitting next to you in the theater,
that you all come out and have a good time
and learn something because I'm going to bring it as
I always do. So it is a very interesting experiment
because if you watch television now it's all choiet, it's
all right wing, left wing. They're horrible. Whatever we do

(08:56):
is great, and that's boring to me. And I like that.
I like robust debate. I like hearing different points of view. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Absolutely, And I'll give you credit for that, because a
lot of people would look at you and they'd see
you hosting on Fox News years ago. They'll see you
hosting your show now and they wouldn't get that impression.
And they look at me, and you'll come to me
like we did last week. Get out your phone or
your notebook and take these notes down. And you brought
up the yault to conference at all of this other stuff. Yes,
I've been reading up on it. Bill, by the way,
I've been reading up on it, and you have people

(09:26):
that had an attitude, and I said, WHOA, I like
Bill o'reiley. I know that might shock you, but I
like him. I think he likes me, and we like
going at each other in our own, in our own way.
I know that I don't know as much as that man,
humble yourself, the man been covering politics for fifty years.
I'm just getting started. I think he would have a

(09:46):
head start. Get over it for crying out loud. But
the world that we live in. I think one of
the reasons you came up with this idea is because
you are lamenting the fact that we can't have reasonable,
sensible and respectful discourse, and you believe that's something that
will transpire this weekend.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
To that, you say, what, I don't want tribalism in
this country. Tribalism is a weakness, not a strength. I
don't like the tribes. So about ten years ago, I
went to a concert the Isisley Brothers and Frankie Mays
and time all black audience at Jones Beach. Okay, yep,

(10:26):
I walk in. I'm the only white guy in a
place except for the security cards.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So goodness.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
My date goes, she's looking at me. She goes, are
you sure this is a good idea? I said, this
is going to be great. So I was sitting right
down front, and so I walked down to the seats.
Everybody sees me. It's an outdoor venue, and half the

(10:55):
crowd knew it was me, and I'm just I'm way
and everybody's waving at me, and yeah, you're gonna everybody
who want pictures with me? It was and that's the
America that I like. Now, they don't agree. I'm sure
that most people at the concert, particularly Ronald Issley, I

(11:18):
don't agree with my point of view about life. But
it was good nature and that's what I want to
get back to. And that's why I'm doing this show.
It's my production company, as you know, and I hope
we're treating you well. You are, and I'm going to
try to market this into something bigger. I don't know
whether I'll be able to succeed.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, you probably You'll probably succeed because you got me.
You know you got me. We ain't losing Bill.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
We try to lose it.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's just the way that it is. Let me get
to some issues that that that I have to I
have to approach with you right now. I want to
get right into the headlines around to Donald Trump in
this new Administration feature in Elon Musk. Last week, Steve
Bannon was on Cuoma on News Nation and said that
Trump will run again the twenty twenty eight and win.
When pressed boy Cuomo that Trump is termed out Ben

(12:05):
and said the team is developing ways to elect Trump
a third time. You wrote it off. I did not
take kindly to that. Bill O'Reilly, I want you to
explain yourself as to why you wrote it off man.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Because of the Constitution it says you can't do it.
What is that going to do? Have a vote to
two thirds of the states to overturn the Constitutional Amendment?
Look at the map. You're not gonna get two thirds
of the states to do that. It's ridiculous. It's what
they always do, all right. You have to understand if
you read The United States or Trump, which is by

(12:38):
far the best book ever written about Donald Trump by me,
your humble correspondent, It's all about provocation. It's all about
putting your opposition off balance, getting them annoyed, getting them emotional.
And that's what these maga people do. Bannen knows is

(12:59):
no way that Donald Trump's gonna run for a third term.
Trump knows it, everybody know. But they just throw the hand,
geringad out, hoping that some nit wit on CNN will
get upset and rant and rave. This is a hobby
for them. They enjoy this.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Hey, but what does it do like that just hits
that like exapt If somebody or CNN or MSNBC goes off,
what and they provoke somebody to do that. What is
the what what is the fallout from it? In the
eyes of a Trump abandon et cetera.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
There isn't any Those people are going to vote for
him anyway, so they don't have any downside to it.
It's like a heckler in the dugout or on the
bench in a basketball game or football game. You try
to throw your opposition off balance. You try to confuse
them by throwing in all of this stuff and calling

(13:57):
them names or whatever you do. And that's what the
Prime administration does. They throw out all of this stuff.
About twenty percent of it is real and the other
eighty percent is what they call hyperbolea. And so Trump
will go, ah, Joe Biden is the worst president of
all time, and everybody go, yay, Well he's not. He's

(14:21):
the second worst a right, not that he is worse
than James Buchanan, but God, he doesn't care. He's going
for the headline.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think he's just going for the headlines. I
think it's it's the old bait and switch, coax them
or provoke them in the saying and doing something stupid
that resembles resembles the rhetoric during the campaign, and as
a result, you're able to point to them being crazy,
et cetera, et cetera, And that's why you need to
vote for me, because you can't trust the liberals. I
think that's what he's doing. But let me get to

(14:51):
my next question, because I'm still on President Trump's administration.
This time it's about featuring Elon Musk, the world's richest man,
as a chief advisor. Musk has been given un presidented
access to all the private citizen has ever received. Why
should we, as the American people be okay with this bill? O'Reilly?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
You don't have to be okay with it. I don't.
I'm not telling any American you should be happy with
Elon Musk there, because I don't know. So last Monday,
Saint Patrick's Day, I was in a cabinet meeting in
the White House. I was invited there by the President,

(15:29):
who occasionally asked for my presence because he knows that
a lot of people will only tell him what he
wants to hear, and I, knowing him thirty five years,
will tell him what I think and try to back
it up and he likes that. So I'm there and

(15:51):
sitting right next to me is Elon Musk, who I
met one time before in Hollywood and didn't talk to him.
I just said, hey, are you doing? He said about that.
I had a twenty minute conversation with him, and my
son witnessed it because my son was on my left flank.
And in the conversation he asked me about what he

(16:14):
might improve on in his presentation, and I told him
my opinion. But I've been in the TV business fifty years.
I know how to present. He listened and that was it.
Now I'm neutral on Elon Musk. So I am bullish
on wasteful spending and getting rid of it, but I

(16:38):
don't want people to get hurt unnecessarily. So I want
a very deliberate, methodical machine to downsize the federal government.
I admire must success. Everybody should. He brought those astronauts down,
and Immediate didn't give him nearly as much credit. That
was a brilliant, brilliant operation to get those two astronauts down,

(17:01):
and Musk was behind that. So I admire his success.
But I'm neutral on him because I don't really know
him very well, and I think that's a fair way
to play it. At this point.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm looking at Trump right now with Musk, and I'm
seeing suggestions about obviously cutting waste, fraud, et cetera. And
I remember a friend of mine sent me a video
because he's a Republican, and he was saying, Stephen A,
before you want to sit up there and excoriate Trump
and Musk and what they're doing. He sent me videos

(17:33):
of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer back in twenty and twelve.
I remember correct that. I think it's twenty ten, And
then it was again in twenty twelve, literally using the
same words fraud, waste, et cetera. We're going to have
to cut medicare. This is what they were saying at
the time. So again, once again, once again we point
to some hypocrisy considering that reality, as you look at

(17:57):
Trump and how he's marched forward, how would could you
judge his first few months in the White House in
his return to the White House. It's one thing to
talk about doing stuff. It's another thing to actually look
at what he's doing. As the man who's known him
for thirty five years. How would you label the job
that he has done us far? Critique the job that

(18:17):
he has done thus far? The positives and the negatives.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, you have to break it out. You can't just
do one uniform. So on the border, aplus all right,
knocked out the open border in record time, ninety four
percent intrusions less than Biden had. That is an incredible achievement. Incredible.

(18:41):
As far as the migrants inside the United States, I
just talked to Tom Homan. I have a pretty good
idea on what the strategy is going forward, and I'm
supportive of it. You have to get the dubious people out,
and if a criminal alien is dating an alien that
doesn't have a criminal record, they both go. The Homeland

(19:02):
Security is not going to delineate at that level. So
I'm with him. On the economy, the tariff thing was
too much, too soon, and it shook the market. Now
I think the market is going to come back, but
I don't know. And that was not a good thing
for the Trump administration because people get nervous when you
see that kind of a drop that fast, And I

(19:24):
don't know why he had to do all the tariffs
at once. You could just piece it out a little bit.
I don't think she'd be invading Canada or Greenland or Panama.
I think when you can get what you want without
rattling their cage to that extent. But it's the same thing.
Rattle them up, keep them off balanced, and it'll be

(19:46):
easier to get what we want. So Trump is trying
to get better economic deals. He wants more companies to
move back to the United States. That seems to be
happening with Putin. I'm optimist stick that there is going
to be a cease fire, but Putin will drag it
out as long as he can. But I'll tell you this,

(20:07):
and I know this to be true, and this is
the most important thing we'll probably have on a Stephen A.
Smith podcast tonight. If Putin makes Trump look bad, Trump
will hurt him. He knows that. How you shut down
all the banking to Moscow, Wow, any bank that does

(20:32):
business with Russia, and that'll be it for Putin. All
the oligarxs will turn on him, military will turn on him.
The only reason Putin's in power is because he buys
the military and the very, very wealthy criminals who run Russia.
You shut off their banking. Nobody wants the ruble, they
can't get dollars. It's over for Putin.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Bill a rally, give me one second. I gotta pause
you right there because I got some bills to put to,
some bills to pay. Okay, be right back with the
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(21:57):
Musk some of the ways fraud, et cetera. Apartment of Education,
what Trump's want in terms of it's eradication. Your thoughts
about federal employees losing their jobs. I mean, you know
this is these are real lives that are being affected.
People bring that up a lot of times when folks
on the right get critiqued. The belief is they don't

(22:20):
care enough about the working class, but the left does.
Even though we now know that the left has lost
the working class and Donald Trump won an election because
the working class have more faith in him than they
did in the left. Your thoughts about the Trump administration
and their position on that federal jobs people losing their
jobs right now in terms of cutting costs.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I mean, look, I'm very sympathetic to anybody who's honest
in making a living and trying to improve the nation.
Some people are going to get let go that shouldn't
get let oh. And I am calling for the Trump
administration to be as precise in its cuts as it
can be. There's a lot of waste, there's a lot

(22:59):
of people not doing what they should do. The federal
government has to be downsized. It has to be You
can't carry a thirty six trillion dollar debt. I mean
we're gonna run out of money in July, according to
Federal Reserve. And I mean that you think the stock
market is wobbly now, If the Uniteday SUTs a default
on its debt, can't pay its interest on the savings bonds,
you're gonna you're looking at a depression situation here. So

(23:22):
you've got to downsize it. And when any downsize, and
good people are gonna use lose their jobs. But the
good news is there are plenty of jobs in a
private sector, plenty of jobs. You can make a good
living in this country if you're honest in and work
hard and have skills. It's not like you're going into
the desert. You're not. It's opportunities at this point.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
But at this point, you gotta be your life.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
You gotta be fair as you can about it at.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
This point in your life. And I'm not talking about
you in terms of how you're living. I'm talking about
your knowledge of how Americans can and should live from
your prism. When we think about a thirty six trillion
dollar day. When we think about the state in the
plight of this country, particularly on those terms, who's more culpable?
Is neither party? Is one party significantly more culporable than

(24:10):
the other, or is it a combination of them all?
I think about thirty six, thirty six, thirty seven trillion
dollar debt. I'm saying, wait a minute. Reagan was in office,
HW had a term. Reagan had two terms. W had
two terms. Trump's now back for a second time. I
understand Obama and Clinton was in the mix. They interrupted
the proceedings per se. But you had both parties up
in there. When you think about our thirty seven trillion

(24:32):
dollar debt, who's most culpable for that bill?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
O'Reilly? All of them? I mean, vote buying is just
a scandal. We'll give you this, We'll give you that.
We'll give you this. We'll give you that. We'll give
you this. You can't you a lot of money capitalistic nation.
This isn't Sweden, Okay, we don't do cradle to grave
entitlements here. The Democratic Party wants that kind of a system.

(24:57):
That's why Bernie Sanders and a Costant cortezra on the
tour now to convince Americans to do socialism that will
take care of you. Okay, we'll spend on you and
we'll take the money from O'Reilly and Steven A. Smith
and we'll give it to you. That's what they do.
But the Republicans they had no interest in cutting anything none,
because it's too hard. Then they ah, yeah, i'll give

(25:20):
it too much. We'll do this, we'll do that. We
got much money the Pentagon waste. I mean, it's ridiculous
how much money they waste. They don't discipline their buys,
they don't supervise their bills. They waste money because it's
an endless pigot. It's not like you're running a household budget.
All right, Oh yeah, we need more money. Come out,
they'll give us more money. It's called pork po RK.

(25:44):
And the main job of the congress people and sat
is bring the poor comb to the state. And that's
got to be revised. We get out of money bill.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
If politicians who are not known to be business folks,
who are who aren't considered individuals that pride themselves on
making deals, have been excessive with the use and then
exploitation of pork, why in God's name, should anybody believe
that Trump is going to be a better option than

(26:17):
those individuals who were seated him that contributed to the deficit.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
But he's doing it, that's whype red muskin. He's doing it.
He's going We're gonna wipe out a lot of the
unnecessary spending. He's doing it. He didn't do it in
the first term because COVID wrecked everything they had to
pay the federal government. I paid so much money in
these pharmaceutical companies to get these vaccines that he just

(26:41):
blew everything up. But now he's doing it now. I
don't know whether he can get through the swamp. I
think he's gonna make an improvements on that. And he's
got to go into the Pentagon, has to, and I
believe that'll be coming. But we do need to compete
with China's military. We gotta build more ships. That's going
to cost a lot of money. But there are ways

(27:03):
to do it. You have to want to do it,
and in the past ninety percent of American politicians in
both parties don't want to supervise spending, so the last
thing on their minds Steven Ay, it's boring, it's numbers
on a sheet. They don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
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can occur. Col of Guard is available by prescription only.
Last two questions before I'll let you get on out
of here and thank you for your time. Number one,

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do you give AOC and Bernie Sanders any snowballs chance
in hell of resonating with the vast majority of American citizens.
Once before the election, I would tell you hell no.
But these things could be a bit cyclical, they could
be a bit mobile. And if you're disgusted with Trump
and Muscle whatever, who knows, what chance do you give
them for resonating as faces for the left in the

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next couple of years moving forward, particularly before the midterms.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, Sanders is eighty three, so he's not going to
do anything. Cassio Cortez is a socialist, hardcore, maybe a communist.
If you hear anybody say they believe in a wealth
tax where the government would come into your home and
take stuff from you, that's communism, that's confiscation. And I
believe Ocassio Cortez supports that Sanders does. So I don't

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think Americans want that kind of oppressive government. Maybe twenty
twenty five percent do. And that's the crew that these
people play for. But here's the rub. The corporate media
loves those people, even though they're the biggest greed heads
in the world. The corporate media, you can't get more
greedy than them. It's all about money. I mean, else

(30:44):
cut your throat, they'll cut my throat. From the corporate media,
but they like Sanders into Acasio Cortez is it's one
of the great anomalies of all time, and so they
get a free ride these two. But the American people
you mentioned season your private property. I don't think they're
gonna get anywhere on that.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Before we get on out of here Sunday three Americans Live.
You me, Chris Cuomo, I know what you're hoping for.
What should they expect?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well, give me a lot of laughs. Number one, it's
going to be very funny. And then the Q and
A with the audience I think is going to be
most fascinating part. So we're gonna have the second half
of the show the audience at Westbury Music Fair and
again you go to Bill O'Reilly dot com. You go
to Stephen Asmith dot com. We'll link you right over

(31:42):
to the box office, so you go to Ticketmaster or
call the theater. VIP sold out fast, so we put
fifteen more out and then we're putting extra sections in two.
So it was a big demand for the show at
this point. But the Q and a's are going to
be fascinating about what the folks want to know from us,

(32:02):
and they can direct a question to any of the three,
so I'm looking forward to it. I just think it's
going to be a two hour, fifteen minute show that
you remember the rest of your life. And the most
important thing about the show is it's authentic. I would
not do a show with phony's so Cuomo and Steven
Aden not phonies me. It's almost horrifying on the way

(32:28):
I am. So. I think that the audience is going
to get a bang for their buck and remember what
they see.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I would like to state this for the record, I'm
pretty oppressed. It looks the suit that you have on
now looks pretty shocked. But you know you're gonna have
to do better Sunday, right, You're gonna have to up
your game and elevate your elevate your style to something.
You do understand that, Bill Rally, right, you do get that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I was down in Palm Beach this weekend. I bought
a breath tie for the occasion. I had a trade
in my car to buy it. Okay, no matter what
kind of pink jacket you show up with, what kind

(33:14):
of little pocket hanky you have, it's not going to
top this spree only tie.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
All right, man, I'll see you Sunday buddy. Look, it's
good talking to you, man. Take it these Bill, We'll
talk so thanks.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
For having me, Steve and Ah.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
All right, coming up, did y'all see the video in
Juju Watkins, Jadeen Daniels and is Mama This weekend we'll
get into that. Plus, I don't know about y'all, but
my brackets are completely busted. Just trifling. I'm less than
thirty percent. That's bad. We'll talk about the NCAA tournament
and a tribute to the one and only George Foreman

(33:50):
Boxing Heavyweight Champion extraordinaire. All that in more coming up
right here on the Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Smith Show.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Don't go away? What's up everybody? Steven Smith here. Recently
we made news because the great Bill O'Reilly announced a
tour that's coming nearest to you in the very very
near future. Get your tickets now for this. It's called
Three Americans Live March thirtieth at Live Nation's Flag Star

(34:17):
at the Westbury Music Fair on Long Island. Don't miss
the very first show as myself, Chris Crolomo and yes,
that man Bill O'Reilly. Take our different ideas, our different backgrounds,
our different beliefs across the country to demonstrate that respectful, meaningful,
and even fun conversation. Those are the things that make
America as great as it should be. The show will

(34:38):
be spirited, unscripted, and all three of us will let
it fly as we discussed the topics everyone is thinking
about these days. There'll also be questions from the audience
we're not running. Tickets are officially on sale now with
pre sale code USA at three Americanslive dot com. VIP
packages are available with the opportunity to meet and take

(34:59):
photos with my self and both those fellas. That's Three
Americans Live March thirtieth at the Westbury Music Fair on
Long Island. Additional dates in cities to be announced. Don't
miss it. Trust me, you'll get a kick out of it.

(35:19):
Welcome back to Stephen the Smith Show. Let's get to
some quick hitters. We'll start in the National Football League,
where Jameis Winston found a new home with the New
York Giants. Jamis signed a two year deal, presumably to
be the backup quarterback or bridge quarterback if the team
goes after cam Ward or Shadoor Sanders in the upcoming
NFL draft. The former number one overall pick is now

(35:40):
in his fourth team, gone from Tampa to New Orleans,
to Cleveland and now the New York Giants. He appeared
on this show in February and I asked him about
his locker room demeanor. Take a listen to this exchange please.
You talked about being a black quarterback from Alabama, and
you talked about essentially debunking stereotypes. In other words, you

(36:00):
know what, they can't really throw the athletic, they can
run with the football, et cetera. Did it ever occur
to you that one of your biggest problems might be
that you're not an asshole, That you're one of the
nicest guys. You're smart, you're affable, you're pleasant to be around,
You're not an asshole. You're not one of those truck yelling,

(36:21):
a cerbic individuals. It is going to be like hell
with you. I don't give a damn who likes me.
Did it ever occur to you that you might be
too nice?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, for sure, and that that might be the thing
that's holding you back because you want to please everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Could that be it?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, that's definitely it. Man Like, for the beginning of
part of my career, I was in this people pleasing
business man. Me and my daddy used to go back
and forth about you got to prove many of these people, man,
you just got to show up, win and show out.
But when I first got into this lead man, the
aura that was around me was a negative aura. Man.
So I came into this lead man trying to show

(36:58):
people who I truly was trying to show people that
I'm not a bad guy. I'm not who you hear
about me in the media. And that was outside of
my element. Because you don't have to show nobody who
you really are. You just be who you really are.
But the youthfulness that I had, I thought that I
had to do that. I thought that I had to
be in the community all the time making sure I
show people like, man, I love my people, I love

(37:19):
my community, I love my kids. You know. I thought
I had to be up in my teammates faces talking
about a man like.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Come on, let's god, don't worry about that.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
We're gonna get this, this and that. But at the
end of the day, being nice is the thing. I
do believe that I'm called to be the salt of
the earth and the light of the world. I do that.
I know my faith has brought me to where I'm
at now. But I thank you exactly right, bro, I
am too nice man, I am too I do focus
a lot on other people's opinions more than my own self.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Sometimes I'm not gonna lie to you. I find it very,
very difficult to imagine anybody who's watched James Winston over
the years as a person not like the guy or
love the guy. He seems like a really, really good person.
Clearly had made mistakes in the past. We don't need

(38:09):
to regurgitate that over these airwaves. And I think because
of the trouble he found himself in in college, coming
out of college, coming into the National Football League, et cetera.
I think it's one of those things where you look
at him and it's easy to perceive that he was
one of those individuals that wanted to make sure that

(38:30):
people liked him, so there wasn't this disincentive to denigrate
him and criticize him and weigh too heavily on him.
And sometimes you can wear you can have that as
a part of your personality, and it could work to
your detriment because you care so much about that that
you can't be the hard ass that you need to
be in order to milk and soak production out of

(38:53):
the people. You need to produce an order for you
to be successful. So certainly he got cut down on
his interceptions because the lease one year through thirty interceptance,
inception waiting to happen, and you gotta cut down on that,
make sure something like that doesn't happen again. He's got
to cut down on those mistakes. But if you get
if you get around him, it's impossible, just impossible not

(39:14):
to root for him. It really really is. He's really
a good guy and so but being that good guy,
I'm here to remind him you could be a good
guy and could be a hard ass too. When cats
around you ain't getting the job done. You gotta do
your job. They gotta do that job. And hopefully he

(39:34):
takes that conversation we had the heart and he resembles
that dude that doesn't give a damn and by by saying,
you don't give a damn. Hell, I care. Everybody cares
about something, but it can't be at the expense of
the productivity you're mandated to put forth in order for
you to extend to prolong your own damn career. You

(39:55):
can't do that. You can't do that. And so I
think Jameis Winston knows that. I hope he knows it.
And when you got a cat like neighbors to throw
the ball to, that ain't a bad option. So let's
keep that in mind, wishing Jameis wins the number, but
the best and jamis, if you produce in New York, baby,

(40:17):
it's got them city. It's different. I know they playing
rother than Jersey need a swamp, but damn it, this
the New York Giants, and that New York market with
your personality is going to be waiting for you if
you produce. They'll wait to tear you down if you fail.
But if you produce with your personality, New York is

(40:38):
gonna love you. It's gonna love you. Remember I said that, bro. Now,
let's get to the NCAA tournament. And I don't know
about y'all, but my bracket a straight shot, it's garbage.
Let's look at the Sweet sixteen coming off this past week.
And okay, I mean, look, we just got a call
away and say you see it right there, y'all, twenty

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seven point nine percent of my picks I got right,
I mean, damn, that's just awful. That's just awful. Okay,
seventeen point two million, that's what I rank in the
ESPN bracket. Tellent, I mean damn. Now, in my defense,
I'm a very busy man. I might have seen about
five or six college basketball games this year. I've spent

(41:22):
far too much time watching NFL and NBA action in
college football action to have time to watch college basketball.
So I'm here to tell you it's all guessing. It's
all guessing, okay, And I can tell you this. I
got Florida and Duke with meat for the national title,
and I'm still alive with that. Everything else, I'm just guessing.

(41:44):
I saw Florida this year, I saw Auburn this year,
I saw Duke this year. Okay, just guessing. It was bad.
It was bad, but I can live with it. Everybody
seem you know, my staff and everybody feel good showing
how embarrassing my brack it is. I mean, it makes
them feel good. Okay, congratulations, you've made the boss. You've

(42:05):
embarrassed the boss. Congratulations. I hope you enjoyed the moment.
Quick hit of number three takes us to the NBA
where Steph Curry continues to make the impossible seeing routine.
Could y'all please check out this shot Steph made from
the tunnel to the basket on the other side of
the court. Look at this, y'all, look at this. I mean,
my lord, that's Steph Curry. It's crazy. It's absolutely positively crazy.

(42:30):
I mean, look at that shot right there. This is
the greatest shooter God has ever created. I mean, he's unreal.
He's unreal with a pelvic injury out of the line
of even though he's traveling with the team to Miami
for their Tuesday night and council and hope that he's
ready to play. You got to give respect and love
with his due and say what it is? That much

(42:51):
I can tell you I got to give him a
lot of love for that. All right, So major, major
props are the one and only Steph Curry, the greatest
shooter God has ever created. We've got much more head
on the Stephen A. Smith Show, including one man's morning
routine that's going crazy on social media. But before we
get to the break, I want to pay homage to
the one and only George Foreman, who passed away last

(43:12):
Friday at the age of seventy six. George Foreman was
a gold medalist in the nineteen sixty eight Olympics who
then went on to become a two time heavyweight champion
in two different decades. Ladies and gentlemen, George Foreman is
one of the greatest champions to have ever lived. I
know Ali beat him in the Rumble in the Jungle.

(43:33):
I know he lost to Ali in Conshasta Zaire. They
bring up names like ron Lyle and Ernie Shavers and
all of these guys. I don't know of anybody who
hit harder than George Foreman. I really really don't. I've
oftentimes found myself asking Mike Tyson in his heyday or

(43:58):
George Foreman prior to the Ali fight, who was the
most menacing heavyweight boxer in history, Ladies and gentlemen, When
Ali true story, When Ali was about to fight George Foreman,
and I'll never forget this as long as I live.

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Ali was about to fight George Foreman, and I'm living
in Hollis Queens, New York City, and my father was crying.
He thought Ali was going to die. That's how fearsome

(44:46):
George Foreman was. And I just think that we just
need to put things in his proper perspective and understand
who this man is that we're talking about here. Muhammad
Ali in October of ninet teen, seventy four, reclaims the
heavyweight Championship of the World after beating George Foreman, who

(45:08):
had knocked out Joe Frasier. Foreman would go on to
lose the decision and to Jimmy Young in seventy seven
and then retire, you know for a while. He come back,
I mean, I'm just looking at him, and retired for
ten years, came back in eighty seven and ultimately fought

(45:29):
and you know, at the age of forty six, if
I remember correctly, he had beaten Michael Moore to capture
the heavyweight championship. More to capture the heavyweight Championship of
the world at age forty six. And I never get
that call by Jim Lampley. It happened. It was unbelievable.
George Foreman is one of the heaviest punches, one of

(45:50):
the most menacing figures in boxing history. I had the
pleasure of interviewing him one time when he came on
my show, quite frankly on the ESPN two. But I
remember what broke his heart with something similar to what
broke Joe Frasier's heart, because when he was fighting Ali
and over there and Zaire, he was like, hey, you know,

(46:12):
I'm black too, I'm a brother too. And these people
don't give a damn. They love Ali so much they
can't they can't stand me. And when he lost, he
was so embarrassed. He was more embarrassed than hurt because
even though Ali was obviously an elite boxer and Alfas
had his own share of power, Ali out smarted him.
The rope of dope he implemented, wore George Foreman out,

(46:33):
and George Foreman was so exhausted that once Ali dropped him,
he was too damn tired to get up before the
ten count. That's what happened, and that's how he lost
the fight. But when I think about George Foreman, I
always asked myself who would be who when he had
beaten Tyson. He could have knocked out Tyson easily, but
Tyson obviously is Tyson, you know, so you just never know.

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But I think George Forman would have taken him. Nevertheless,
he went on George Foreman. Grill made hundreds of millions
of dollars with that, that perpetual smile, cheesing for the
camera and stuff like that turned himself from one of
the most menacing, if not the most menacing boxer in
history to a pitchment unbelievable. What can you say? So

(47:22):
I know I'm gonna miss him. He did a great,
great job working with Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant calling
boxing matches for HBO. He obviously was a great fighter,
and he accomplished a lot in life, and so my
condolences to him and his family on behalf of myself.
In the entire boxing world, we all know we lost

(47:43):
a great one. George Foreman gone at the age of
seventy six. Welcome back to Stephen A. Smith Show. Now,
before we get to your tweets, I want to show
y'all some interesting clips that were blowing up social media.
Did y'all see the video of USC's Juju Watkins and

(48:03):
Washington Commander's quarterback NFL quarterback Jaden Daniels sitting together before
her tournament game. Many people began speculating about their relationship.
Now that's none of my business, but it appears Mama
Daniels wanted to break up the party before rumors got started.
Jaden's mama was later seen sitting between the two star athletes. Okay, again,

(48:26):
none of my business, but it shure drew some headlines.
Let me say this, he's a young man, mama's looking
out for him. I get that part. But let me
talk to mama for a second.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Here.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know, Mama Daniels, Now I got love for you.
You know, had pleasure to meet you.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Met.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Of course, your son is big time, the whole bit
eruh God, something to tell you. And I want to
be the deliverer of bad news because I'm not saying
anything's going on with them. I'm not saying I don't know.
But here's what I do know, Mama, if Jaden Daniels

(49:11):
want to do something, you're not gonna be able to
stop them. I know that's something a parent doesn't like
to hear, Davin. I don't like imagining that I'm a parent.
But if they want to do something bad enough, they will.

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If they want to get to know one another bad enough.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
They will.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That's just the way it goes. And if Jaden a
phenomenal athlete and uh you know, flourishing star in the
national Football League. It is interested in somebody. He could
do a lot worse than Juju Watkin, who's a star

(50:02):
in her own right. So rather than sitting between them, mama,
maybe you should pull them close together and it's sitting nearby.
Just a suggestion, Just a suggestion. Now, this next subject

(50:23):
is a sensitive topic because it evolves somebody's hairline and
their attempt to try and hide an obvious retreat. Check
out these images of Liberty head coach Richie McKay from
the Weekend. Here he is talking to a reporter and
fans couldn't help her notice McKay's attempt to hide his
receding hairline by painting over it. I'm not gonna fall

(50:51):
for this. It would absolutely positively be a walking piece
of hypocrisy for me to open my mouth about somebody's hairline.
I am fully aware of this. I'm not falling for it.
I'm not falling for it. To me, y'all, it shouldn't
be his heeline that y'all going off about the brother

(51:12):
fifty nine years old. I mean, he got a heline
that Roberts Lebron James, and Lebron James just turned forty.
You shouldn't be about the Heiline. The issue is what's
up with the vampire? You know, stuff at both ends
looking like strong? Sure is it strong?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Was it? What was it?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Tom Cruise and the vampire stuff? You know, looking at
your hair, Doe looking like horns? What the hell is
that struggle Dracula or whatever the hell it was? Okay,
that to me is what y'all should be talking about,
the fact that he used some stuff in his hair.
I mean, that's what people do. And ladies, y'all don't
need to be talking. You remember what Chris Rock said

(51:55):
about y'all, right, he said, what the hell you ever
joked that Chris Rock told years ago when he was
doing stand up comedy. He used to tell that joke
years ago. He said, you coming, you women out there
lied all the time. He said, you wearing heels, You
ain't that tall, those extension your hair ain't that long?
He said, look your eyes, your eyes with you the

(52:17):
context of it. Your eyes ain't that color? You understand?
Everything is about you, Everything about you is lying. And
you want me to tell the youth hell with you?
That was Chris Rock, not me, and he didn't use
those words. He was far more serbic. I'm not gonna
do that. All I'm saying is cut the brother. Some

(52:37):
slack women do things to embellish themselves all the time.
What's wrong with when the fellas do it again? He
could get rid of those horns at the top of
his head, but everything else. He's approaching sixty, y'all, He's
approaching sixty. Lead that man alone. Lead, That man alone,
literally just had a successful season, got to the NCAA,

(52:58):
told them to leave that man alone. And finally, I
want you all to see this tweet called the Morning Routine,
which has nearly six hundred and seventy four million views.
It's from the ex account Tips for Men. Look at
what this brother's doing, and please tell me why nearly
six hundred and seventy four million people are into this video.

(53:22):
I'm asking a rhetorical question because I want you want
to make a bet that the six hundred and seventy
four million of out ninety five percent of them of women,
because you want your man to have a body like that. Yes,
this CC, I'm not gonna disrespect the brother. The brother's
in shape now. I don't see nothing he's doing from
a conditioning standpoint. He's just working on this, you know,
doing this morning routine, but he ain't showing what actual

(53:44):
workout routine he's doing. But clearly the brother's in the
gym a lot. Give him credit where credit is due. Now,
I don't want to be that big, but I'd like
to be a little bigger.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
There he is running. Get a man some credit where
is due. I don't know if it's not need to
be pulled up that hot. That's just me. But the
brothers in shape. He's swimming, he's running, he's working on himself.
Get a man credit where credit is due. Don't hate
on him. Six hundred and seventy four million people are watching.
I think at least six hundred million of them are winning.

(54:18):
And the men who are watching, it's because we like, yo, bro,
got some tips, good brother, some tips getting that kind
of shape. That's all we doing. Don't hate, appreciate. Now
let's get to your tweets. The first couple go hand
in hand with that video you just saw Stephen A. Smith.
This is at Who's Breezy UK? Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Smith?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Can you recreate this picture? Yes? I can, because you
ain't asking me to swim, you just ask me to
dive into the water and show myself diving into the water.
Now I'm gonna look that thick, that big because I'm
not that size. But could I could I replicate that scene,
you know, a slim version of that diving into the pool.
Sure I can now if you asked me to swim
like he was swimming. Different matter all together, ain't gonna happen.

(55:01):
Ain't gonna happen next week? Show it to me pleased
at Henry the blazon b L A S I A
N right, Steven A. Smith. What's your morning routine? I
get up between six thirty and seven am, because once
I'm up, I don't usually take naps, so I'm up
until approximately one o'clock sometimes two o'clock. The next morning,
I get four to five hours of five to six

(55:24):
hours sleep and not a night. I could do a
little bit better than that my morning routine. As I
get up, first thing I do is pray and thank
my heavenly Father that I live to see another day.
Second thing I try to do unless my elbows are
hurting on my pushups. But before the push ups, I
drink some water, and I drink some water and sort

(55:46):
of clear my head. And stuff like that. Make sure
I got some liquid in me, get down, do about
one hundred push ups each morning. One on my elbows
again are feeling healthy when they're hurting, not as much.
One hundred push ups, hundred sit ups. I try to
get a banana in me, some potassium, little fuel, you know.

(56:06):
I do that, and then about four times a week,
I'll get on a peloton for about a half hour,
do a little lifting. When i'm home, I'll get my
cold plunge. When I'm not, I'll get down and I'll
do a little bit more sit ups. And then after that,

(56:29):
I do my morning call and get ready for the day,
and I do my research for my show. And then
I get ready to go, got my blood flowing, got
my blood circulating, and wake myself up ready to go,
getting a little workout like I just described, just to
get things going, do my morning meeting, and then do

(56:50):
my research and make sure that when it's time for airtime,
when the lights come on, your brother's ready. It's just
that simple hope that helps. Then, all right, two more
to go before I let you get on out of here. Uh,
give me to show me the next tweek at Zeno
Mike Foro Wright. Stephen A. Smith, at seven feet two
hundred and twenty one pounds with the DNA of the
strongest fighters, could perfect cell beat prime Michael Jordan in

(57:13):
a game of twenty one. Hmm, perfect bolls either. I'm
not picking against Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm just not.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I don't give a damn who you are because, as
John Sally said in the Last Dance, we had to
get him before he was airborne because you know he
wasn't human. You know it's Michael Jordan. I'm not going
against that. I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna pick Michael
Jordan because to me he is a damn or he
was a damn superhero. That's just how I felt about
him last tweek.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
What you got.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
At Cantalope underscore ff fright Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Smith.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
If there were giraffe what is that giraffe centers centaurs?
There were giraffe centaurs, would they look like the left
or like the right? I think it would look like
the left. When I was in front of a giraft,
That's how I looked. I would go with the left
as opposed to the right. Personally, I think the right

(58:12):
is a bit too much, is a bit muscular. I
don't see giraffes as being that way, so I would
have to go against that kind of thinking. That's how
I'm rolling with it. All Right, that's it for this
edition of the Steven X. Spiens Show. I hope you
all enjoyed it immensely as much as I did, because
I know I did. Thank y'all for joining the show.
Thanks again to the one and only Bill Riley for
coming on the show and blessing us with his presence.
Look forward to talk to y'all in the next couple

(58:34):
of days. Remember tomorrow's edition, special edition.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Of the Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Smith Show. I'm sitting down one on one with mister
Ben Shapiro, noted conservative pundon and host, you know, owner
for the Daily Wire and all of that stuff. Call
me a jackass, but were gonna have that conversation man
the man. Let's see if he does it.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Then.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Until next time, ladies and gentlemen, this is Stephen Ain't
signing off pleas a loving