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March 13, 2025 15 mins

Stephen A. Smith is a New York Times Bestselling Author, Executive Producer, host of ESPN's First Take, and co-host of NBA Countdown.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now let's get to my much anticipated appearance on a
Gills Arena podcast. To be clear, those aren't my words.
This came from the crew who accused me of ducking
the show for more than one hundred and thirty eight days.
So yesterday I sat down with gilbel Arenas, Kenyan Martin
and Rashard mccantz and Nick Young and of course Josiah
Johnson for nearly three hours. We talked about several topics,

(00:26):
including my running with Lebron James, where everyone seems to
have an opinion. Of course, so check this out before
I begin my next guest, what.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Do you make of Lebron infront of you in the
aftermath of that situation, I thought.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
It was weak. I thought it was some bullshit. But
in the moment, I knew that I was listening to
a father. I remember during the time out in the
first quarter seeing Bronnie Brownie looked over at me and

(01:03):
he had this sad look on his face, and I'm
imagining Pop saw that shit you hit him and he
couldn't hold it and he rolled up on me.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Isn't it weak?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Like when you think about it, you know he wasn't
ready right as a father, you're still a father to
your son. You're still trying to praise them and make
them feel like they're worthy of playing basketball, because they can.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Get discouraged at any moment in time.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Right, So I'm pretty sure every game he's over.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The life, you got it. Don't worry about they just
go out there and play the game. That's that part
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
The NBA part knows he's not ready yet, right, but
as the father part him sitting there nervous and shit,
you lie, hey, relax, you're gonna go out there and play.
At what point when he gets drafted fifty five, do
you supposed to sit back and be like, all right,
there's nothing to talk about here. He's fifty five. He

(02:00):
wasn't seventeen. He wasn't the first rund his drift status actually,
let you know what he was.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
All he had to do this, Listen, I got this
moment with my son. All right, now it's time to
go to the G league and do what you're doing, and.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Or let the draft happen organically. And if somebody's going
to draft, right, let them draft. But you know, no,
just that's for ships and giggles, all right, What if
somebody at forty four wanted to know, I'm just like
for ships and giggle know, I get right? What why
forty four wanted to pick him?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, so you're gonna stop, yes.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Lord, because he wants to play with his kid. He
don't want to see his kids. He don't want to
see his kid. Yeah, okay, he wants to play on
the stor I think. Yeah, that's way different. That's way different.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
And here's why my son could have died.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yes, I've been in the league twenty one years, right,
so what is going on?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I've been in the league twenty one years.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
What is Brownie's dream to be in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I've been in the league twenty one years. I missed
nineteen to twenty years of his life. You know how
we are as parents, We're in, we're out, we're in,
we're out.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
My first born.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
With my name almost passed, and you're telling me that
I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep playing this league to
miss this Fuck No, this is gonna be the first
time in my career where I get three hundred and
sixty fucking five days with my son.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
But what is Bronnie's dream? Brannie's dream was to be
in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Dream was this.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I don't give the fuck where I get drafted.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I just want to hear my name.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
So why dream.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So therefore, what I'm saying is that was his dread
that happened organically. Listen, I told y'all seeing this, motherfucker,
I was a bigger wreck on Kj's draft day than
he fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right, right, for sure, it should be.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
A bigger record.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm trying to stay away from him because I don't
want him to fence since this ship, right right. So yeah,
I wanted more than he fucking wanted, right, absolutely, But
it's his dream and his journey, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
With you.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm saying, yes, Gil, Yes, absolutely, hear his name called
by for any fucking team, right for.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Anything, Which means that when we're talking about the Lakers,
that's about Lebron, not Bronnie. Bronni wanted to get drafted
by any NBA team. He wanted to hear his name.
It was Lebron that wanted him as his teammate. For
Lebron up here and you know you're up here. He
don't give a fuck. The problem is when it comes

(04:53):
to the media, God damn it. I'm up here. We
all know what happened with me and Lebron. I'm give
shit if I never speak to him again in life.
And I'm sure he feel the same way. If that
man had something going on in acron or Hire with
the kids or ow here with the kids. Yo, man,
we need Steven a help. What you need. It ain't

(05:16):
got nothing to do with us what you need. I
don't need to say anymore. That encapsulated everything. I was
there for three hours right frame. Tired of talking about it.
It is what it is. You know. Everybody knows where
I stand now what happened, and that's that. But my
nephew was there. He was in the house, and he
was out there in La with me, and for a change,

(05:39):
he wasn't styling and profiling. He was just there hanging
with his uncle, listening intently for a change, and I
was very very proud of him for doing that. Actually,
like his outfit right now, it looks nice. What's going on, Josh?
How you doing? Man?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Nothing much, just being rich and you know, living life.
You got on my shirt today.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, this is mine, Josh shirt.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Listen, it's it's slow down on the creatin and the
muscle milk.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
You're busting out of it. That's not your size. But
when you talking about my style, that's it's not your size.
It's not your.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Size, but w W is my size.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
It is my show your cuts, and I don't appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's a sports hill. That's because you're not in the gym.
You're too busy looking pretty. You're looking in the mirror
all the day going time. I got news for you.
If you went to the gym, you would notice there's
a lot of mirrors there, so you could look at
yourself all the time. You should try it.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
No, I don't want to waste my time. I got
any things to do with this body anyway. Looking about
the Gilbert Arena, what did you do?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You would you would hear the whole for the whole
damn near three hour interview? What were your thoughts of it? Man?

Speaker 6 (06:51):
I feel like y'all wasted a little bit too much
time on that w W E moment. We know nothing
was going to happen at that at the Crypto Arena,
but I wanted you all to talk about because I
watched the show all the time. They're good at you know,
are you in the talent versus greatness, because that's where
I come in because I don't value all of like

(07:12):
the rings and the all NBA teams that y'all vote.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
For and stuff like that. I go with for what
I see.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
So I wanted you to go in there, and I
wanted all of y'all to put put together like a
starting five of players minus the accomplishments, just about how
nice a player is. When I say nice, were from
New York, so I'm nice at different Stephan Marberry, Kenny
Anderson like just nice, not your resume. So if I
asked you to give me five, what would it be.

(07:41):
We're not talking rings, we're not talking resumes. Just nice
five and don't.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Put it just nice. But when you say just nice,
I could I could retort by asking the question, Josh,
are you talking one on one? Are you talking five
or five team NBA basketball? When you're talking.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
About no, no, no, it comes in the lines of an
NBA player. Like I said, when I name nice, I'm
talking Kevin Durant, who's not in the goat conversation. But
if you want to talk about the nicest players that
you've ever seen play, he's in the top five.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't disagree with that. I think that Kevin Durant
is maybe the greatest scorer we've ever seen. So he's
a professional scorer. He'thing, He's something special to behold. I
don't have a problem with that, But.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You would to put him in your top five resident
with his resume.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Let me ask you a question. Would you put him
ahead of Kobe?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I would they in the top five? Kevin Durant to be.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
My okay, would you put Lebron in the top five? No,
you would have put Lebron in the top five.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
I'm doing in position. Kevin Durant is the nicest small
forward I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you put Kevin Durant ahead of Lebron?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
As far as being nice, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You'd put Kobe Bryant in top five? So who would you?
So where would you put Jordan?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
He not he wasn't nice like that.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
It's the resume talking right there, the six for six
and stuff like if we've seen him playing in the park,
we're picking Kobe. We're not not twenty four Kobe eight,
Kobe Athletics still dunking jumpers. I'm not with the Jordan stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
And you know that Josh is nobody that would pick
Michael Jordans they saw Michael Jordan. There's nobody that would
pick Michael Jordan, that would pick anybody ahead of Michael Jordan.
Talk if you saw, if you saw, if you saw
Michael Jordan, I've seen him, you would not pick anybody
ahead of Michael.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
George's telling me my opinion. This is what I'm talking
about with this media stuff. All right, so you got
two more. Who's the point?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Who's your power forward?

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Janni's yeah, I don't want to doing over jump hooks
all day.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't so in other words, so, in other words,
Yanna's dunking on everybody but struggling to do almost anything else.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
He gets his own shot on a fast break, he'll
run it by hisself. He's dunking on you. He used
to shoot a little bit. He not even. He don't even.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
He don't even want to shoot no more. I'm Shaquille
on nil now I'm wearing number thirty four.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But you you're taking out rings because Tim Duncan's got
five rings. You're just taking out rings. Okay, all right,
I'm not mad as I want to want to see
you play. I don't want to see jump hooks all right.
Where what's Kevin Garnet? Where would he be in that?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Not better than you? Honest man, He's right, he'd probably
be second, okay?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And your center is who gotta go with?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Joker? Wow?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Your kitchen? Yeah, I mean the way he looks in
this day and age is the walking triple double. I mean,
you know we come from the day's Kareem map dude,
jabbar you you take him over Shaq too? Right, that's
what you're saying. You know, Chapman is dominant force of
my life?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would Shack would be second? Kareem? Ain't even.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Who's your point guard?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Josh Seth? That was easy, yep?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, all right, all right? What else did you take
from the Gilbert Arena's interview?

Speaker 6 (10:58):
It was it was a little lengthy, and I seen,
I'm looking at me like they wanted me to come.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
On the stage.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
But I gave y'all y'all moment. I'm like, let me
have y'all moment. It was missing me for sure, though,
three hours No me, that was crazy. I got some
new laws here too, take about it? You got so
what some new laws for when we twenty twenty eight?
I saw, yeah, we got the money now yeah, laws.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, do I have to listen to this?

Speaker 6 (11:23):
I mean you don't have to. Just one is for
the women. The des a for the women. Need I
need the women to wake up a little bit. So
I'm gonna get started. If you're gonna interrupt me, make
sure it counts new female lords. I'm trying to fix America.
Run relationship at a time. Just how y'all talk when
it's the presidency like this? Yeah, if you talk while
the game is on, you're getting fond. On Sundays, we're

(11:48):
gonna honor something called selective listening, meaning I'm listening a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Make it count when you too.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
But I like that one, like that one, I like it.
I like that. I like that. Okay, go ahead, go ahead,
yo one. That clock is right twice today, every one
to the blue moo second.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Right there, emotional range act. Yeah, appreciate your role. Let
me tell you a story. So I had a living situation, right,
I had a living situation. The girl cooked. Hold on,
the girl cooked. We ate then she like, you know,
I'm going to bed now. I'm tell you, oh, you're

(12:30):
not gonna do the dishes I cook? Also, were gonna
tip it tat all? Right, I'll do the dishes and
then we go to bed. Somebody bangs on the door.
They play like that in the hood.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Bangs on the door. Oh my god, somebody's at the door.
So I roll over. I'm like, all right, well you
let me know who it is. It's your turn. I
did the dishes. What I'm saying, we're gonna turn turn.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Either either appreciates your role or not, we'll be doing here.
Last one Privacy Act. You touch my phone, you're going
to jail. And I want to know who's wrong. First,
get up and sit up at the mic. Because I started.
I started a show on YouTube, The Josh Smith Show.
Everybody want to know where to find me. They want
advice and stuff like that. I am and advisor. You

(13:10):
can catch me on YouTube. You too, So I have
I have one last question. Though I see your face,
you look a little confused.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I have a question.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
You started a YouTube show without my permission.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
A mission, It's right, you paid for it.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, So look, one last question, right, So the privacy
the Privacy Act.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I want to know this.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
If a girl goes through my phone finds out that
I might have.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Cheated, who was wrong? First? Yo? Why am I wrong first,
because you cheated.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
She violated my privacy and found that I cheated. So
who's wrong first?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
But you cheated, but you came before the violation.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
She don't know that you you you.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Cheat, but you know that you said who what you said?
What was first? You know what you did?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
But but I asked you what was first? Who was
wrong first? Was she wrong? She didn't know that I
did it? She went through my phone first? Knew you knew?

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Okay, So when she was doing little sneaky ninja moves
to figure out my code and stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Was that wrong? Was that wrong? With about me being
sleep and her checking my breath?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's it's it's it's wrong if she can't deal with
what she's liable to find out, you know, because what
she should do is get rid of your ass.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Okay, I shouldn't get rid of her but the phone.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But the point is, but the point is if she
elects not to you understand that that you just digging
in there and then you messing with your own conscience
and your own stress or your own tranquility, you're really
messing with it, then that's problematic. But it doesn't absolve you.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I didn't said that was exalt. I just said who
was wrong? First?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
She went through my phone and violated my private See
you're always taking up for them, But I see why
when you come back to town tired of the split
screen stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You like sitting in my seat. You wouldn't be sitting
there if I wasn't there. If I was there, you
wouldn't be sitting there, So you should be happy.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I do, But I do want to go back there,
La though.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, you can go next year. Goodbye, Get the hell
out of here next week. I got stuff to finish
up to show me. Bye. Go just go, just go,
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