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January 21, 2025 • 31 mins

Welcome to Ghost Therapy, where it's not just about connecting with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and their new perspective. In this episode we welcome Curly Velasquez, born and raised in Los Angeles, internet personality and The Super Secret Bestie Club host for Iheart and Sonoro.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whoa, my lights in my living room just flickered.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh oh, no Ola, Olaola Loola. Welcome to ghost Therapy,
where it's not just about connecting with deceased loved ones,
it's about learning through them and their new perspective. Hey there,

(00:31):
welcome to ghost Therapy. I'm your host, Paola. Let me
tell you a little bit about myself. I've had this
incredible gift since I was a little girl.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I basically have the.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ability to connect with loved ones who have passed away
and with our guardian angels, I've been fortunate to help
countless people with my unique ability. In each episode, we'll
dive into heartfelt online sessions where our extraordinary guests share
their experiences of connecting with the other side. These encounters

(01:03):
have touched lives in ways we could only dream of.
So sit back, relax, and join me in this mystical
journey as we explore the magic of ghost therapy this

(01:27):
time around. On this session of ghost Therapy, we talked
to Curly. Curly is somebody. He's so magical. He's a
proud ally of the LGBT community. He's a comedian, he's
an actor, he does it all and one of his
best friends or her. His best friend was his grandmother
and he would always put him in his videos and

(01:48):
his YouTube videos and everything, and unfortunately she passed away
a while ago, and they had a pact that whenever
they would connect with each other, they would flicker the lights.
Oh my gosh, well the lights were flickered everyone, and
it was crazy because I did not know of this

(02:08):
pack and I didn't know what was gonna happen. And
then suddenly the audio goes out, the video goes out,
and his lights start flickering. It was crazy. He was
just dumbfounded. I did not know what was happening. I
did not know of this path, so it was kind
of confusing for me, but for him, it was everything.

(02:31):
It was such a great way to kick off this
wonderful podcast. So let's check out Curly's episode. I hope
you like it. Hi, guys, welcome to Ghost Therapy. I'm

(02:57):
so happy you guys are here. I have a really,
really cool guest today. His name is Curly Velascuz. Well,
actually your name is not Curly.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Right, My My real real real name is Carlitos, So
it's not even Carlos. It's like they Yeah, they were
like no Carlitos, and then it got kind of hard
for people to say in school. So then Curly just started.
And then Curly I've been Curly since I was like

(03:26):
twelve years old. That had just started people, and then
every job I'd be like, Curly.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh my god, yeah, Curly, you wouldn't know me better.
And I love the fact that it was Carlitos. I
have never heard of that.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Did they put that?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yes, officially, yes, I feel it.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I like it because I feel like you can tell
a lot sometimes by someone's name, and then like Carlitos, like.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
The enzearment.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
So even if you have a little bit of hate
and you don't like me, you're like Golitosama, You're like,
yeah more Anywayso.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
It sounds good anyway. There's no hate coming your way ever.
I we just get out. As you know, I'm a medium.
I get in touch.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
With all I see dead people, basically, and I'm just
a way of communicating with people that have passed loved
ones basically. And and this is why you're here. I
know that you want to talk to somebody, but I
don't know who you want to do.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Amazing, Okay, yeah, thank you so much for having me
and like honestly like the other side and spirits like I.
It's something that I've kind of grown up with my
whole life as well, Like I'll dream about them, I
can hear certain things when I fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I feel like, but I want to get better.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
So when other people are really good at it, I'm like,
oh my god, how do you do that? Because mine's
kind of you know how I heard it describe once
almost like you're in a tunnel in the dark tunnel
and you have a flashlight and your flashlight works in there,
and then when you're learning, you're like, my flashlight kind
of flickers, like it's not that good, but I see
yours and I go, oh, you.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Have a brighter flashlight and you can look around and
do more, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And that who are you going to want to talk to?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I feel like the most obvious one is like one
of my best friends, my grandma, Mea Wita, recently passed away.
Oh thank you. I feel her with me, like I
talk to her every day. I dream about her, like.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't feel it's really weird.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I don't feel disconnected from her, like I don't feel
like sometimes it hits me where I'm like, oh, like
right now, if I think about it, and I'm like, oh, like,
I'm not going to talk to her, I'm not going
to see her. I do get emotional, like I can
feel myself like fighting the emotions, but you I can
feel her, I can. I don't feel her like missing,

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if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know, Wow, that's incredible. Not a lot of people
feel that way. You know, that's a blessing to feel
that way. Most people feel disconnected and then sometimes they're like,
I haven't been able to dream about her or you know,
those kinds of things that make people sad. But in reality,
dreams are not exactly, not exactly what we think, what

(06:21):
they think the it's not always them, it's not always them.
So so don't get discouraged if you don't dream about somebody,
because it has nothing to do with the fact that
they're there with you.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, that's what I believe.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Mm hmm. That's good that you don't feel disconnected. Can
you give me her name and her date of.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Passing, you know, yeah, her date of passing is. Her
name is Gladys. The year that she passed was twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Twenty twenty three. Super recent, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Super recent, February three.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, well, I'm going to tell you to Sally's gonna
go down.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm gonna close my eyes and I'm gonna say a
little silent prayer just to have you know, God and
our angels and everybody present with us, and then I'm
going just the first two minutes are a little bit slow.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's when I say the prayer and then when I
asked your grandma to come down.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Amazing, I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Let's get started. Let's get started.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Would you be able to confirm that you were and
were you like, yes, there's something about her that calmed

(07:51):
you down, not necessarily maybe everybody, but to you, like
she catered to you in a way that she would
always talk very softly to you, and somehow it would work.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, well yeah, definitely with her, she had to talk
to me different because the way that she was everybody
else was very like crass and I'm with you know,
like very strong personality, better like and so I would
be I would argue with her and so and and
I'm very sensitive, So she would have to talk to
me like certain types of ways and be like all right,

(08:30):
I would because I would get mad. I'm like, I
would think that she had to be sensitive with me
because if she said something to me and.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm like, would.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Always have to be like that. Yeah, in that way too,
Oh my god, my poor husband.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yea, but yeah, I'm not way to okay, but a
fake then this is I think it's it's that which
she's trying to to make come across it.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Let me continue.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Do you recall that she didn't like flowers, something about
not liking flowers or like thinking they were like a
waste of money or something like that. Do you remember
her saying that.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh no, I don't remember her saying that she didn't
like flowers, but she definitely was more of like a
plant lady, like.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That was like her.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
But I'm trying to think because you know, we never
had flowers in her house, and I think I only
bought her flowers like maybe once. You know what what
she used to say all the time, which is interesting,
is that she doesn't she she didn't like leaves on
the trees. She liked when there was like no leaves, like,
she didn't like when things were She liked it more

(09:53):
when it was like more winter and things were kind
of going.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Right, you know dry uh huh.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
She she wants to go towards it, And maybe you
can tell this to your mom, maybe because I feel
like she was like flowers waste of time and when
she died something about oh full of flowers. I hated them,
like uh, like something ironic about her not liking them
and they're being so many flowers when she died. So

(10:24):
maybe that's something that you can check up with. Your
mom might than you, but just tell her that it
was just the joke that she's making. Okay, like she
hated flowers and look at this, all these flowers.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
For her, So maybe that's for your mom. Okay, hold up,
maybe say.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
When okay, memoria, no memoria, memoria, no memorial was this
like when she was passing away like that they would
tell you like, oh, she's going to pass and that
she didn't.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
And then again because I feel like.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
She had like five good byes or something like that,
like many good byes and she.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Just thinks that was very funny.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
For some reason, she had dementia, so I feel like,
you know, there would be a lot of moments dementia
feels like it's kind of like a slow death sometimes
where you kind of, you know exactly that feeling where
are you going to go? Or you're not going to go,
you know, like sy connect and then they disconnect, you know,
where she would kind of be.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like, yeah, well she would be like, you know, oh,
carlitos this.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
And then I would come in and she would say like, oh,
she would think that I was a guy that she
dated when she was younger, like she would forget who I.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Was, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. She wants to talk
about you know, enough validation of that it's her. She
wants to talk about you. She wants to shift gears
a little bit, work wise, goals, kind of work life
put together. Okay, She's like, I'm watching you how you're

(12:09):
doing this. Look at what you've done, like, look at
what you've accomplished. I feel now that you're more free,
like you like, oh, this is what I really liked,
you know, like I feel like this communication, like this
is what you really liked and it wasn't necessarily your thing.
And she's she's like, I'm so proud of you, and

(12:31):
I'm proud I feel how happy you are. But at
the same time, she's like, but you still got to
move up more, two more, you know, two more flights
of stairs, like and you know, I feel like you
know what I'm talking about. And she's kind of green
lighting it because I feel like you're scared and you
don't have to tell us because we're we're not supposed

(12:52):
to talk about new projects. But I feel like whatever
it is, she's very happy about it. And she's like,
look what you've done so far. Come on, I know
you can do this. And she just talks about a
little bit more, uh, sacrificing time more than anything.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Does this make sense to you?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, definitely. The time. I feel like that's my that's
my thing. My thing is.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's not about how good I am or who I
know or what. It's the time. And you're right, like
it is like you know, time to It's like I
want to go out and play, like, but you have
to finish your homework, go in and do your home.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Totally, you know, right, she wants to talk about your
love life. Ye, I will be as as gentle as possible.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
You can be as rough, you can be as rough,
you can burgle it, you can be mean, you can
do whatever you need to.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Do no way, no way, but she is kind of
she's like, you're very picky and maybe say yes, you
don't something about not giving them a chance that much like, oh, no,
the shoes are gray.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, I don't do gray shoes like that kind of thing.
Does that sound familiar?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Well.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
No, I was gonna be like, yeah, i am really,
I am very picky because I'm also like, you know,
I feel like you get to a point in your
life where you go, no, I'm in therapy. I know
how to handle my I know how to emotionally regulate.
Can you no?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay? Next you know you're like, no, I fold my
lune matters.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, you're like, no, I hold my laundry, I clean,
I put my shoes away, and I fold my underwear.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Do you know? Okay, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Say so, I'm very I'm very picky, but I feel
like it's stuff that I'm like, no it Sometimes like
my last two boyfriends, I had to like clean up
after them, and I was like, man, I'm okay with
cleaning up after you because I get it, But also,
come on, bro, pick up your shoes, pick up your underwear.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Totally, totally, totally She's like, oh, you wouldn't have lasted
a day in my time, she said. I feel like
she became a woman way too fast for her own good, Like,
you know, like she had to mature very quickly. And
she says, she applauds the fact that you are living

(15:29):
your life as opposed to what she had to go through.
And she's like, that's really I wanted to live your life,
but you know, live live your life with somebody, you
know that you can be like roommates and friends and
everything else, you know, but I feel like you look only.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
For one thing.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And she's like, you got to look for the whole,
you know, package, because you deserve it. Because sometimes we
feel like we don't deserve be like, okay, well he's messy,
you know, well he had to have.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Something, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And sometimes we forget that it's not about that the
perfect man is out there, but it's the perfect.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Man for you. Yeah, that's kind of different.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, maybe maybe you don't mind that much picking up
the socks. Maybe you mind picking up the gel and
the yeah yeah, but maybe not the socks, you know,
and do it.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I am very you know Verrbos where like we just
do it anyways. You know, we're just like I'm just
gonna do it anyways and it's fine. Yeah, but I
do go Okay, there's just certain things that I want
to see. But I am very picky. I might stay
for like a year. I might say for two. I've
stayed with one for three at the most, and I was.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Like, okay, that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm like I think yeah, and then then I'm like,
I think I'm done, and I can feel it in
my spirit that my spirit goes okay, but she's right
and you're right, and that I am very picky, Like
I do go on a lot of dates, like a
lot of dates, and so I'm like, okay, we'll go
on one day on him here, and then with one person,
I'll be like he's cool, but I don't I want this,

(17:06):
And then I'll go someone else like they're cool, but
I'll hear something that they say that I go I
don't like that, Like I don't like people who are
too angry, you know, things like that.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Like they call it the Eke factors, like yeah factor right,
Like they do something and you're like I don't want yeah,
every but everything's gonna turn up right. I feel like
she even though she wants you to do this, Like
she's very proud where you're at anyway, So wherever, whenever

(17:36):
that person comes in, that's gonna be great for you.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Can she tell you when.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I wish, I wish?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Okay, one last quick thing. She kind of shows me
that I don't know what she's talking about. You should,
you should know, and I don't have to know. But
she's like, the place where you're looking is not exactly
the right place.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Okay, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Maybe if it's.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Bars, if it's I don't know what it is. I
think I've been married too long to even know. But
it's something about your looking in the wrong places too,
and you have to try a new tactics.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
She's like, don't be afraid.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
To go somewhere else or have another way of meeting people.
That's kind of like not your normal place to go
or not your normal place to do, and that's where
you're gonna find your your nice surprises.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. There's nothing wrong with changing
it up.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
You can always go back. Yeah, you know, you have
to give it a try.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, let me continue. Is there some problem in your
relationship with your father?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, not like anything too wild.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
We we argue like any child and parent, and I
actually recently started to tell them that I'm very patient
with everyone in the world, Like I'm super chill, I
don't fight, I'm very patient, except for when it's my parents.
I lose it faster and I'm like, oh, I don't
like that, Like I need to be better at So
lately I've been having more conversations about, oh, I need

(19:17):
to be more patient with you guys, because I am
like I got the market. I'm like, oh, come on,
I'm not mean, and I don't. Yeah, but I'm like
moody with them, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Right, Well, I think you're not the only one.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
So it's nice to hear that I'm not the only
one and that you're not the only one. Yeah, I
think we all struggle with that a little. But she
wants to tell you that I think there's something. I
think it's a little bit back then, like maybe ten
years ago, fifteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I feel like she's trying to.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Not speak on his behalf but kind of justify his
behavior of I feel like there's something that you that
he made you feel bad about something that kind of
feel like it changed the relationship a bit. But he's like, listen,
he didn't know any better or he didn't understand any better.

(20:14):
And she makes me feel like maybe to you or
maybe you put it in the back burner, you know,
and it's something that you don't think about that much.
But I feel that there's something that you have to
forgive your dad for.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
That. Maybe he didn't.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Do it for the right wrong reasons, and maybe it
hurt you and you kind of left it there. And
you don't have to tell me right now if you
don't want to, but there is that thing that you
kind of I feel like you have to like explore
what I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, And you know, she really feels like you should
know that he didn't know any better.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean, that's definitely, that's definitely accurate. I would
say we grew up kind of like in someone of
an abusive household, and we have conversations we had when
last night, we had conversations.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
About like ken.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
You know, my mom always said, oh, I'm just Nuka Kamien,
you know, and I'm always like, but my dad say,
yellow not a lot, not a lot, but a little bit, right,
And so I go, oh, ken, men actually changed. And
so last night I asked him, I was like, what
made you like? I don't blame him, And I understand
that when you're young, and especially like in the eighties

(21:25):
and the seventies and the nineties, when you were younger,
we didn't have the internet, we didn't have a lot
of information to a lot of different things, and especially
when you're coming from one country where there's a war
and coming to another country, You're still learning a lot
of different things, right, So I'm always learning to I
would always I tell them both, like I forget both

(21:46):
of them for the ways that they the ways that
they kept a house with two young kids, and the
way that they raised the young gay boy.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know, Oh, okay, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
At your house, yes, and uh huh.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And then we like talk about it and you know,
it's super like it's it's but I always give them that,
I'm like, I know that they were young. I know
that anything that they did, I'm already like, I'm turning
thirty seven this year, and I'm like, there are things
where I go I could not do what they do,

(22:22):
Like I you know, my dog like destroys something, and
I'm like, I get so mad that she destroyed something.
But I'm like, imagine a kid who's going to destroy everything,
or a kid that you have to take to school
and the games and all this stuff, and that's what
my parents did. I'm like, of course, you're going to
lose your patients every now and then. Like it's I
don't know how how you didn't lose any more.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Ye believe me, it's not easy.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's like we're we're broken people raising other people and
we don't even know what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, totally. They were really young when they had to
they were.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, well they were younger when they had my sisters,
so they were like seventeen eighteen, and then by the
time I came around, you know, they were like I
think they were twenty five or something like that, like
twenty five, twenty six, so they were.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Like still young, you know, is yeah, you know what, No.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I think there were twenty three when my mom had me,
but still young until you go like I mean, like
I said, I'm almost going to be forty in a
few years and I can't. I'm over here being like
I gotta feed this animal I gotta like take care
of I gotta feed myself at some point, like I just.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Keep myself alive. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's too much.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's too much. And I don't know if things just
got harder now than it was then. But I'm like,
I don't know how y'all did it. So there's no
I have no like ill ill feelings towards.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Them, Claron, let's not rank.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But it's probably taken you to get older to kind
of understand.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And it doesn't mean it's not ongoing.
It has worked still all the.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Time, you know, right, Oh totally, So you do go
go to therapy.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
I was like, yeah, yeah, do.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
You have any questions?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, I would love to know too, Like I think
with the whole.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Like I mean, and you kind of touched up on
all the bases like I always want to know about
career and I like that, you know, like is she
with me the whole love thing I did get out
of kind of like a weird like toxic relationship. I'm
wondering if she was there to help me kind of
figure it out. I kind of want to know what

(24:45):
she thinks, like if she was, if she was here.
I would be like, sorry, look, get bye, So like
I would talk to her about it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
She would be with the popcorn, like tell me exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
She would always be like, no, they had on bass
or it gets us up on or you know, and
it was whoever my dad liked, that's who she liked,
you know. She would be like, and I'd be like, oh,
because my dad liked him. And then I'm like, oh,
I still, and I'm like, well, my dad didn't like him,
so that's why.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
So influenced by him, so influenced.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I'd be interested to know, like, you know, what does
she think about my current like love and if she's
like keep looking or what she would think?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Right, Okay, let me see what is your other grandma's name?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Teresa or Regina Rehina?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Oh? Both?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Oh yeah, so that's those are both her names.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
The first thing that I'm showed by them, they're like
too high strung, like I feel like you work better with.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I see the word chill, like with chill people.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, I feel like what happens with you is
that it all goes it all goes wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
When they're too or too dramatic or too.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Uh, you know, just too high strung to up there
and it kind of throws your energy off balance. Yeah,
and they kind and they kind of tell you like
this is something where you can like right away detect
and run away. Yeah, and I feel with him you

(26:34):
didn't run away and you knew you didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I felt it all the time.
I felt it like the fourth time we talked.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I felt that the first week, the second week, and
I was like, no, but that's why when you said
the runway of men, Like the minute I feel it, I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Like no, no, no, no no, because I'm so.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I will never yell at you, I won't be mad,
I won't do bad things, so I expect the same
in return, Like whatever I do, you said earlier, we're
mindful about the way how we talk. I want you
to whoa, my my lights in my living room just flickered.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh oh no.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Ola, Oh wait, hello, that's a weird interesting Hi.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
You're gonna love this. This is really funny. So I
hi everyone too. I don't know if you want to
record or whatever, but my signal for my grandma is
flickering lights. And my lights just started flickering. Oh and
then the internet went out.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Oh my god, that's great.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
That is that's that is it happens.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
But I know you are sensitive.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You are a little bit more than everybody else, so
you can, you know, the energies can collide a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, I will hold up. That's my grandma's sign for stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So I'm like, so you don't want me to talk
about my ex wafriender? You do?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
She's like, do you get the message?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Shut it down?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Shut it shut up, get out of there.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
So, needless to say, I knew it was going to
be bad. I got out. We just got validation. It
was bad. I'm happy to be out of it. That
was really funny.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Okay, So after the flickering lights and the total I
guess us crash crash on the internet thanks to your grandma.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah maybe both which one?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Maybe both?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
So I guess we have confirmation that you that you
did the right thing.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
But I so appreciate you using your time and your
energy and part of your spirit light to contact you know,
my grandma's and and talking to me and sharing your
gift with me. Thank you so much for that. That
was SUPERO. What a fun experience. So like sit here
and chat it up, remember the women that I love
the most, and then get like a light show.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
That was very special and I think I think it
was and you know why. And also I want.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
To thank you because I sometimes this is what we
go through as mediums. Either you're put on on test
like the Stamprobando it is, or the people that actually,
even though they don't know you, they believe in.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
You and they're open. They open your energy towards you.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
And I just want to thank you for being that,
for opening your energy and.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Being so nice to me and just being on the show.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
This is a very special show, like you know, and
this is It just warms my heart that it was
with somebody so spiritual, so beautiful on the inside as
on the outside too. And and I think if you,
I hope you don't mind me saying that. I think
you get life. Very very few people your age get.

(30:48):
I think kind of like you're an old soul and
I think you understand life more than you think. Confiaison
that little voice that's your intuition, and whatever comes up first,
don't edit it out, don't just whatever comes to mind,
do it. Pour Que to Savice, to Savis perfect Yes.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Thank you so much for that. I appreciate you. Thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
For coming to ghost Therapy.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Thank you for having me on Ghost Therapy. Bye bye,
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