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February 19, 2024 67 mins

Join us as we sit down with Robert Jefferson of the highly popular comic book YouTube Channel Comics Explained. We also talked about the New Deadpool Movie and what we think is going to happen. we also talk about weather or not super hero fatigue is real. All of this and more on todays episode.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trap Rea never heard. We in this piece. Welcome, Welcome, welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome to another exciting episode of The Trap Nerds Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
We in this piece, man, we got a special learned
podcast bitch.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Just yes, what Tray said, we got a really really
special guest guys here. I mean, I'm lost words right now.
This is literally the comic book encyclopedia. If you don't
know nothing about comic books, this man's YouTube is where
you need to go. And if you haven't already done,
give it up. Everybody, this is comics. Explain himself. You're

(00:54):
too nice, man, trust Wayne too nice. I just I
just make youuure videos about comic book guys. But I what,
but I do know a lot. Here's here's my here's
my word.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Because you're talking about the idea of doing a like
a trivia towards the end of this and I was like,
watch these guys ask me questions I don't know the
answer to you, and everybody's gonna be like, this guy
doesn't know anything about comics.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Hey, just do not feel bad, like since we started,
like any that's why we had to literally fact check
our sales mid podcast at times, because if we do not,
we casching the Instagram coming like well actually and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Like, oh yeah, well actually yeah, no okay, So that's
that's what sal over Coming Pop used to do. Like
he was like, he does this imitation of like just
like these ridiculous hardcore comic book fans, and he'll be like, uh,
he'll be like you know, like he'll make it. He'll
make a misstatement and'll actually be like, actually, so that

(01:51):
happened and this comic here and this year, and it's
like bruh, who cares Like.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
It's it's Nutchop wasn't even Cannon. Yeah yeah, you guys
guys just got going deep. Snatch don't want to do it.
I'd be ready for it there and time, like we're
really going down this ramp hole. One of us is
wrong one of That's why I don't because I'm usually wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
So that's how I was like.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I mean he gets that's kind of the key to
like driving engagement on YouTube, though, Like you gotta like
say stuff wrong so that people will comment.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Sometimes.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah, so they come in and they're just like, yeah,
I don't try to don't he wasn't being smart.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He couse to be knowing don't try to.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Build na You can say that like the first three
times we on like seventeen. Now it's like, wait a.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Minute before before before we get tell weeks, I gotta
question for Rob, Rob, how long does it usually take
you to make your YouTube videos? That's why that's what
I always thought about, wanting to know how long does
it take you to make the YouTube video?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Not nearly as long as it' used to. So one
of the questions that I always got in the early days,
and even now I still get it to a degree,
but not nearly as much as people ask, like like
how'd you go on a YouTube channel? And like back
in the day when I was first starting out and
I was a one man band, I mean I'd work
like seventeen hour days, but now like it's nowhere, Yeah,
it's nowhere near that long because I have a staff, right,

(03:15):
I've got like three editors, right, and all that kind
of stuff I got, you know, people who take care
of all that. So I mean, I would say depending
on the comic and depending on how expansive or depending
on how it ties into my nowled It's like a
really good example is I have a video coming out
where it's like Captain America is the reason why Wolverine
and Deadpool exists, right, like he more or less created
the characters. Kind of it was more circumstances. There's there's

(03:37):
something goes into it. But all that's just stuff that
I know off the top of my head, right, you know,
like these old references to.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Like what was like I think it was.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It was like Wolverraine volume two, webinex volume two is
like an old this old story that dealt was senator
during World War two, black panther flags and my fathers,
like you know, all these different stories. But all that's
there's stuff that I know. So if I'm sitting down
and I'm making a video and it's about information that
I'm already aware of, it could take me half an hour,
just literally however long it takes to record. But if
I need to do like research, or if it's a

(04:05):
video where I'm like going through and reading a comic.
Then it's just however long it takes me to read
the comic and then to record it. So I would
say at most two hours. Okay, but a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Sounds a lot.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
It's just because of everything that I know, so I
don't really have I mean I don't unless it's like
super obscure, I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Necessarily have to do a whole lot of research. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
My dog running around the house, by the way, so
you're gonna hear her clinging through the house.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's okay, you gonna hear him nibbling all stuff. Yeah,
is me aggressively? Yes? Well yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That the usually how we started just asking about how
the week's going. So we'll say this, you're to guests,
we start with two, how was your week? I was
everything going? My week's been good, man.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Honestly, I've very much been looking forward to the Deadpool
three trailer, mostly because, like a lot of the comics
coming out from Marvel and DC. I mean, there were
the ones that came out this week. They're okay, Ultimate
Black Panther came out and that comic dope. But outside
of that, like it's just it's kind of like I'm
not you know, it's kind of on the fence about it.
But we's going good. Oh all right, Like I'm actually

(05:09):
buying a house in Columbus. I just got the four
plans back for it, so now I'm gonna go through
and start looking at you know, changes that would make
and how I was hitting these up and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
But uh, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a good week.
Oh that's dope. Behind the house, that's a big pros.
It's a big deal process.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Stressful, it takes it takes so much time. Yeah, it
takes so much time. I just got left the house
and now just figuring out, like damn, I can't do
a lot of Somebody left you a house.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, well not technically. My dad and moving next though,
and he gave me his house.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Must be nice.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
It's one you have that you want a house, you
have that moment where it's like, huh, this is the
exact same as it was when I was a child.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I'm thirty one.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, I mean that's dope. But it's it's wild like hey, man,
like I've I've just got the spare house sitting over here,
Like would you like it?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Take the free house. You know what, Why the fuck
am I still in Dallas. I'm going home, y'all.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Have a moment. I'm gonna let my dog out real quick.
If you got that, no, you go go, Jerry. How's
your week?

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Eh, it's been cool. I've been kicking it. We're still
own Persona. Okay, so I'm eighty eight hours in. We
pretty much down the rambit hole and now I think
I think, give me like two more days, I'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Nah three.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Wait, you're eighty eight hours into Persona like Persona five. Roight, Yeah, yep, I'm.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Trying to cause so I beat it once I got
the good ending. I didn't know it was the true ending.
It's the buns. It's the buns, you know, honestly I was.
I couldn't really do Persona five. Like, I'm aware of it,
and I'm aware that it has like a huge following,
but I never really got into the Persona series. But
I am aware of it, right, Like I'm familiar enough

(06:58):
with it. But it's like one of the ones you
get past the first Palace and really, oh this, so
we do It's basically you all, you know how Mitigan
solid games are basically a movie with gameplay.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yes, I prefer to death. I love yeah, I love
them to death.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
That's basically it's basically an anime with with grinding best
way to But the storyline is that good to the
fact that it's like we're like I'll be streaming and
it's one of those you have to explain it that
you go like, okay, we're here now because if you
missed one palace, we didn't caught like two more team
members and you're like, damn, the team got deepest hell out.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I know what happened. This is an anime.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
You know, in Japan, they're not scared to get they
gonna hop on them deep subjects.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So it gets you. I'm new to.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Anime, like like I'm okay, so yeah, I know, I know,
I know.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
So here's here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
So, so my girlfriend Mariah, she got me into anime
way back when, like like she well she had me
sit down and watch Avatar Thine, Airbender Weather, and I
didn't really like sit down and watch it with he
It's just like it's her favorite show. So by yeah,
I was there and like she's like like she she
can quote that show word for word, right, so she
would watch it while she was doing laundry, she would

(08:11):
watch it while she was cooking, she would watch it
while she was doing nothing at all. And so just
by one circumstance or another, one situation or another, I'm
more or less all the whole show. And I know
it's not truly an anime. I know there's like that
whole debate in nerd culture whether it's considered well actually yea,
but well actually yeah there was. There was this meme
I saw from Star Wars where Anakin has declined the
role of being like a Jedi master, but he's allowed

(08:32):
to be on the on the council, and it said, like,
we grant you the rank was we grant you the
rank of No, we we allow you onto the counselors
to like that, but we do not grant you the
rank of anime. Yeah, I can anime exactly. That's exactly
what That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
So I tweeted that out and people flipped, right, they
were losing their minds. But she got me into Full
Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, which you know, I was like, okay,
you know it's cool. Like King Bradley's still my favorite character.
In the whole show.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
And then we watched.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Death Note, which I don't know if you guys have
seen that, but that should have ended like halfway through. Honestly,
I hate death It's the worst part is hey, dude,
death death not okay, so spoilers for anybody who hasn't
seen this ridiculously iconic animal, but like Death Note should
have ended when L died like that, Actually you should

(09:23):
have got away with it.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
We should have just got away with and that's it. Yeah,
this is this is like two years ago. That's that
doesn't make it even funny.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
But but it's it's But I mean I was like, dude,
like like he should you know, you should have killed
L and just got away with it, and like that's
that's it, Like that's where the anime ends. But more
recently I've gotten into it more seriously, so like I
just watched Blue Eyed Samurai, which whoa what is it

(09:51):
wasn't like episode episode eight? I think it is the
one where it goes over her origin and I was like,
this is that's that's episode six, I think, okay, episode yeah,
whichever whichever episode it was, I was like, this is
the best episode, like one of the best episodes of
anything I've ever seen in my life like this. It
was just it was phenomenal, like telling three stories at
the same time like it was. It was incredible Cliffhanger

(10:15):
and everything. Man, where it's more common, it was where
they're going to London? Yeah, man, yeah, like where they're
going to London. But but yeah, so then I got
into Bleach thousand year Blood War, which is funny.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Did you have straight inside of blue
wah or.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Did you like yeah? Yeah, yeah, I went straight into
blood water and.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, no, no, here's okay, here's here's the thing, here's
the thing, here's the thing. In my defense, in my defense,
I just cannot do the animation style of nineteen nineties anime,
with the exception of dragon Ball.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Like I I grew up on dragon Ball.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I lived and breathed dragon Ball growing up when I
was when I was a younger kid. But it's the
reason why I can't get into one piece. It's just
too goofy, too silly, and I just I'm not a
huge fan of it. What's the animation.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Bleach animation is really good though, it holds up if
you if you go just just give it a chance
go back with something.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Everybody.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Everybody keeps telling me that Eli. Everybody keeps everybody anima. Yeah,
now he ain't like okay, so I'm like animation no, no, no,
read berserk he might. People were telling me that, see okay,
So I'm I'm very very finicky when it comes to

(11:28):
that stuff. I don't like reading manga because I don't
like reading back to front the style of anime. Like
I'm very particular about the style of anime. I'm like
the peakiest person ever. And I'm sure like anime and
manga fans who were like listening to this podcast right
now are like, this guy is the problem, like people are.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just like people.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Explain explained the problem on the subject so many times too.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
So you're you're good, Okay, we're in the same boat.
We're in the same boat. Like we we are we are, Yeah,
We're in the same boat.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Like I'm the guy who's new to like anime, so like,
of course I'm going to be highly discerning on what
I listened to or I'm like what I what I watching,
what I don't watch. But I will say, like right now,
I am kind of slowly going through it, taking my time,
and it's intermittent, but I'm watching Assassination Classroom, which is
really really worth it.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Really.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, you're the first person who told me that Assassin
this Why you wait? Why you didn't?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
If I was introduced with something in the anime, that'd
be one of the last anime if you know, I
like that.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
That's one of the ones you stumbled upon and be like, huh,
this is different.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
It is I thought with some normy anime if I
was giving somebody again, see you know I was.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I was fucked up as a child.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
I went it was ninety seven, we caught it was Cowboy,
be By Out lost a Bersserk Bank, Bond, Big.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Were you watching like, were you watching Big and Running
Warriors back in the day? Great? Just remember I remember
seeing Scroll.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah all right, So we had Uncore and Ship when
they had Uncore Action, OnCore, Suspense, Uncourt, Hore and Ship,
we had all the channels niggas.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Oh my god, bro, you're taking me back man on
Core st Core.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
You not.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I tell everybody it's either Dust Swim to Nummy or
like uncought action. Because every Friday going into Saturday, there
was anim midnight and.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
They show like that was the animate that had teddies
and ship. Okay, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw a curveball.
I'm gonna throw a curveball.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Do you guys remember And you can only get it
if you had like direct TV, I think back in
the day, but it was the international channel.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Oh yeah, okay, because no I had the court went
that show.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
This shot one just shows stuff in Japan. Yeah, that's
how I saw.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
That's how I watched like the original episodes of Dragon
ball Z.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
It was.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
It was ridiculously difficult to watch the subtitles. And honestly,
and and Dragon ball Z fans are gonna hate me
for this. It's the reason why I love the duve
more than the original. No, that's that's not hot to
that's a lot of people dragon Mazi Okay, okay, I
thought it was. I thought it was like the hottest
of take locals losses and it's great.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I'm not there of it just don't hit the same.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It just don't. It doesn't, man.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
And like there's precious few moments from I like how
you guys have me on as like a comic look
YouTuber and we're talking about anime. So like there's there's
there's precious few moments from the original from like the
original Japanese version that I think is better than the
one in America. In fact, the only one that I
think is better than the dub is when Gohan goes
super Saiyan too. That's the only one, the only moment

(14:59):
from the and Jabe that one is. It's amazing, dude.
You got like, you got the bird flying, and you
got the voice in the background, and then Gohan flips
his ship right.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And then just like the loads and all this power.
Oh dude. Yeah. It was like, dude, let me tell
you something.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Back in the TV you had to get it on
a boulet VHS from your cousin.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, man, dude, Okay, So so dre you know, I know,
you know what I'm talking about, like Eli and and
and snacks and I don't know if you guys know
what I'm talking about. But like back in the day,
it was like discovering treasure if you could go online
and find like the Japanese versions of Dragon Ball Z
that were subtitled and didn't look like ass because so

(15:41):
many of those accurately subtitled. Yeah, because so many of
those videos were just like pixelated and ship and it
looked too terrible.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Yeah, man, exactly, I'm gonna download and it's almost out
for me to download one episode.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
That's what yeah, my computer man? Yeah man, Yeah, it
was rough. It was great and it was a time.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But Dre was honest. You had what was gonna do?
Is you asked the question? My bad?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Oh damn what? No, we can make this the first
segment of the actual ship. No, we was doing it
weeks because we got the first Oh funny ship.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, just playing my back? Can I call you right?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Can't for the people you know at home, because I've
been me you know, snack. You know, I've been saying
it's like we've we've been slightly fucking up slightly with
like comic book was Can you give.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
How badly are we talking about sucking up? Like badly? Okay,
how bad? I say?

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I'm called up to where Doctor Manhadding the Superman finally
punched each other and that Doctor Manhans some ship.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
That's like seven years ago, Man and bro Doomsday clock
it was it was it was supposed to be at
twelve behind.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was Dark Knight with Dark Knight's Metal before I'm
behind on everything of things.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
But it was a lot back to back on it.
And then right now, I just remember with X Men,
I mean with Marvel, I was at the point where
you know, Charles just straight up just you know, hacked
the Wi Fi a k A. The world and the
minds of everybody and was like, hey, we got to
cure for cancer.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
And I'm in the text ah, y'all some bitches deal with.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh okay, you're jumping around through time, man, Because so
Doomsday Clock. Doomsday Clock was supposed to be a twelve
issue comic, was supposed to come out one thing and
last year and ended up taking like two years to
finish because that's what it was like.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, and then uh, what you're talking about with the
whole x Men and Xavier all that kind stuff that
was that was Hickman's House and Powers of Us and
that just started. I mean that that started maybe like
three years ago.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's DC wise and Marvel wise.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
So I randomly picked up the hell Fire Gala and
the comic book Shop is randomly and I tried to
get through it. I'm like, Okay, I don't understand what's
going on. So that was a year ago.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I had.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Now I'm about to start reading it again because I
started watching your videos on the X Men. I think
it's Fall of x or uh one where side Clops
turns into like the Captain America version of the Mutant Island.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, Captain ker Cohen. That's that's just part way through
the X Men. Its just it It's not like a
landmark or like a like a shift comic where it's
just like and now we're like we're in a new era.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
See, here's the thing, man, the the hell Fire Gala
was cool, but it was so poorly marketed for what
it was the purpose of the hell Fire Gala was
that every year the comic would be released and it
would be a way to kind of say, like, here
is the new X Men team.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I learned that in one of your videos, so that
that's what was kissing me.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
But like Marvel didn't really explain it that well. So
like when you when you go to like a comic
book store and you see like hell Fire Gala right
two thousand and whatever, you know, just like sitting there
on a shelf and they've got like, you know, fifty
copies of it for people to buy, then you just
like see it as a comic, but then when you
go and you buy it and you read it, you
don't like, outside of the fact that like a new
X Men team is being chosen, you don't really know

(19:37):
much about the characters. You don't know the bigger story
going on because Health Fire Gala is designed to kind
of link everything that has been happening with everything that
is that is happening, and it's going to happen, right,
so it's kind of a chain like it's a it's
a link comic.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
So yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
It was just it was incredibly poorly marketed for the
purpose of the comic served. And I never understood why
Marvel did it that way, Like I never really and honestly,
I think it's just because Marvels is not very good
at marketing their own college. It's like the non good comes. Yeah,
never fieteen nineties, man, not nineties. But we gotta go

(20:11):
to a quick break.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
But when we come back Deadpool and More after this,
and we are back, so Deadpool, we're waiting on the
trailer release. We're right before the super Bowl and we're
waiting on the trailer release right now. But we're going
to talk a little bit about dead Pool and wants
to come since we got the comfortablege cycle theater here
for Robert Jefferson. So yeah, well what I was gonna

(20:37):
ask about dead Pool. Look like they're going into the
direction of Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Do you think that's where they're going with the movie?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yes, And in fact I made a video about that
like two years ago, like yeah, when they announced that
like they were doing they were doing Secret Wars, and
the way the way they like talked about the idea
of Secret Wars, I was like, okay, so Secret Wars
is basically just Crisis Infinite orsi DC comics.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's really what Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, And I was like, so they're just they're gonna
find a way to collapse all the universes, you know,
and they're all gonna die. Then they're gonna have a
quote unquote New Earth and that's gonna be the new
continuity going forward, and you're gonna get like this quote
unquote reboot and that'll be it, and they're probably gonna
recast everybody, right, it's gonna be the you know, be
their whole the whole soft soft reboot thing. So my
thought was, Okay, so that means they're going to grab

(21:30):
the X Men that are good, They're gonna get rid
of the ones that suck. They're gonna bring the Man
in some capacity. So what's the whole point of Deadpool three? Like,
I think Deadpool is going to kill the Fox first.
Now the plot leaks say that's not the case and fact,
but I think he's gonna end up killing the Fox
first and subcapacity.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't know. I kind of hope he does.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie, man, Like I mean,
I want to see a Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe movie,
right like I want to. I want I want fight
to just be like okay, guys, so like like him
and Ryan Rent will sit down and it's like Ryan
Renolds is like, so you know what's up, and is
just like, I want you to think of the most
creative ass ways to just kill everyone in the Marvel

(22:07):
Universe and then we're gonna make that movie. And let
me tell you something, man, Like you guys thought Avengers
end Game sold like.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Him?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, he just went back in time and shot
him in the face for writing the Green Lantern like
just happened. Yeah, yeah, just start jumping through and so
it's it's like it's like, if you guys think Avengers
End Game or Infinity War made money, make a movie
called Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, and that thing's gonna
it's it's gonna make bank.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Like that movie is gonna make so much money. W
B gonna be pissed off.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
But I learned, Oh yeah, I learned about Deadpool Killed
to the Marrowl Universe because me and Dre set up
and watched the YouTube video on comics explained about the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And I hope they mean, I tweeted, I won't they
I want Panda Pool to be in it. Hopefully it's
probably is fucking that day. That's what it was. The
brainstorming this ship.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Look at isn't that hey, Like like like Man when
he was in the Wings, tick us out look.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
At this he Panderpool was dope. I don't care what
anybody says, like the multiverse, pando to the to the
to the Oh.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Kite Man, dude, hell yeah, I loved kite Man outside
of yeah ou dude, outside of like the Condoment King,
He's one of the crappiest villains.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Like that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
So Batman and even the Batman comics, they had ridiculous
villains right, like the clock King, the Condoment King, kite
Man from the Scott Snyder's Run. But yeah, they're like
they were amazing, Like they were hilarious villains because you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Help a reform.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Clay Face is supposed to be one of those hilarious villains,
but he turned out to be serious.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
He was slightly yall didn't think when y'all made him,
because he could be op as hell at times.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, hold on, kit he got main villain potential.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Are you talking about Kiteman Dre that's crazy talk. White
Man sucks, Well, he's a guy that just.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Flows clay Face broa. Yeah, reason love kite Man. It's
because he sucks. Yeah, you can't almost as much as
you can't help, but love because he sucks. It sucks
almost as much as who black Bolt? Oh my god,

(24:24):
you had a fan?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, we actually have a fan question? Who who asked
us to ask you a question? And is why is
black Belt such a trash character?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Because he's Black Bolts.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
So in all seriousness, in all seriousness, I'm not gonna
take this.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
I'm not gonna take this black Boat flat flat.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Shut up.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Wait, okay, I'm sorry black Bolt. Oh Black Wolve's not okay, yeah,
Black Bolt's not trash. Let me tell you something. There
has never been in in the history of comic books,
and there will never be an instance in the history
in any of the movies where Fanos is invading Earth
and like the Avengers are just getting absolutely obliterated. Right,

(25:13):
iron Man's is getting beat within an inch of his life.
And as he's laying there watching Fanos unleash out, the
clouds part and a beam of sunlight comes down and
there was cracked mask. You see a single eye look
up into the sky and a new surge of life
comes into Iron Man because Black Bolts here and the

(25:35):
day is saved.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's never happened. It's never going to happen.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
No one is ever excited when Black Bolts shows up.
It's just he's gonna get wrecked, just like everybody else.
Like it's Black Bolt Man, He's not saving the day.
Eli Eli, I love you to death Man. No one
would find that comic believable. Black Both saves the Marvel universe.

(26:03):
Yeah he likes that comic.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yes, I want to know what a sour song and
destroy everybody.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
That's why, okay, Eli black Bolt of Mariah care who
you get?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I got? I got Mariah here.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Of course there there is, and there's actually an amazing
moment in House of m which is like one of
three times where Black Bolt's ever been relevant or interesting,
but there is there's there's this amazing moment where the
villain Apocalypse he I can't remember, he storms some fortress
or I can't remember what where it is, but anyway,
he shows up there and black Bolt's there and this
guy whispers and he completely annihilates Apocalypse, right, just like

(26:42):
this Demi god that the X Men, but even just
the superhero comunity in general struggles against black Bolt whispers.
This guy gets annihilated along with like a full mile
of land. There's probably one hundred yards wide. Right, It's
just this this like really amazing moment. But yeah, there's
like there's like three or four moments in the comics

(27:02):
that like feature black Bult and are really really cool.
But in all seriousness, right, Like to answer this fan's
question all seriousness, I don't actually have anything against black Bull.
It's somehow it started out as it's just like slandering
Black Bull and everybody in the comics Pat is so
hilarious that, like, I just kept doing it and I
was like, yeah, like, I'm gonna slander Black Bult every

(27:23):
chance I get.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
But if you are, what's I do gotta the storylines
and comics they are kind of boring.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
I can't lie, I like, because the Pals and Stuman.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Storyline is kind of boring to me. I mean, he
Marijah carry my Nigga ran here at times Infinity though.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Listen, dude, I will say, if you're looking for a
really really cool comic that features Black Bull in the
in Humans, I mean, in all seriousness, there aren't very
many of them, which is one of the reasons why
the Inhumans just never had a follow it, right. I
Mean It's either that or you get some stupid comic
like The in Humans Versus the x Men, where Marvels
like you want the Inhumans to be the new x
Men and everybody's like nope, and they're like, well, we're

(28:02):
gonna try it anyway. Yeah, But if you're looking for
a really really cool Black Holt and the in Humans comic,
check out in Humans Volume two by Paul Jingkins and Jaylee.
It's more of a Maxi series, is like twelve issues.
But the art is phenomenal. I love Jay Lee's art.
He's the guy that did the art on the original
Century comic, and in fact, him and Paul Jenkins worked together.

(28:22):
They had to do the in Humans before they could
do the Century. But the story is really really good.
The art work is really really good. It's like probably
the single best Black Holt and in Human story that
that anybody's ever gonna read. Having said that, outside of
this podcast, I'm never going to speak positively of his character.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
You guys, before we go back to Dampool, I can
fix the Humans. I already know how to do a
fixed Black Bult and Humans. Sell it to Japan, make
it an anime. I'm telling you it will go out, man,
I'm telling you it will go out.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Man Death.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Japan wouldn't know how to write this anime, man, they
would not Lloyd him. I just let the Immortals be
the manga spin off.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, just let it. Let it be a manga.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Lett that's crazy. Yeah, I'm telling you crazy enough to work.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
I'll tell you shites that do sound like an anime
don't yeh.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Moving back to uh, Deadpool.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, Well, the question was like, if it felt like
Deadpool was going to be Deadpool Kills the Fox first?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I mean, the plot leaks say one thing, but I
mean the plot leaks were always just rumors until we
actually see the movie, and the truth probably falls somewhere
between the plot leaks and Deadpool Kills the Fox first.
I don't know if it's gonna feel like Deadpool kills
the Marvel Universe in the sense that, like he realizes
he's a fictional character, and like he goes through and
just starts killing everybody to like spare them of their existence,

(29:54):
and you know, so on and so forth. You know, honestly,
I don't really know, because in truth, I don't know
what role outside of this opposed involvement of the TVA
that like Deadpool is going to play in the greater
scheme of transitioning him over into the MCU. And it's
not necessarily because I feel like Marvel's sort of clueless

(30:15):
and what they're gonna do. But it's simply just like Deadpool, right,
Deadpool could just like up here in a post credit scene,
or just like show up in a movie and just
be like, well, this is cool that I'm here, and
then like that's it, right, you get you get like
no explanation or nothing, And it would make perfect sense
because it's just the nature of Deadpool's character kind of
ben and to like buck trends and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
So yeah, I don't, honestly, I don't. I don't know.
So can I ask the question? Because this is when
us is we always like we can of it as
I want.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
How all right, so in europeion, how do you think
one of my scenes make it make sense?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Right?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
So it's like we did pull it three? How would
you make it make sense in the MCU right now?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
M m that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
How would I make Deadpool work exactly? Not changing what's
happened so far? Yeah, Like like okay.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
No, so because you know how to do the random
teases for the as Man, but they always in the
Samparate universe, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
So like if they're making dead Wood Cannon canon, it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I mean I've got a whole plan on how
to put the how to put the X Men in
the MCU, Like that's that's the easy part. Yeah, I
mean I put together like a whole structured thing that
honestly works perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But as far as.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Honestly I would have him brought into the TVA, like,
I would say that the Time Varians Authority is assembling
what basically amounts to the Exiles. Are you guys to
know what the Exiles are back in the nineties nor?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Right? Okay, give us a brief brief with the Exiles. Yeah,
the viewers don't have the time.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, So a super quick explanation of the Exiles.
They were basically a multiversal team of some of the
come of A characters really all the come of A
characters that you're familiar with Storm from the X Men
or gam It from the X Men, or maybe Captain
America or something like that, but they were from different
universes and they were brought together to like fix problems
within the multiverse quote unquote. And there's more too within that,

(32:18):
but that's really the long and short of it, And
so all you would really do, at least in my mind,
is you would say, the Time Variance Authority is assembling
what is an effect the Exiles, right, like a multiversal team,
and that that team is trying to find some way
to defeat King the Conqueror or the Council of Kings
or whatever, and just going from one universe to the next,
and whether it's because the universe has already been destroyed

(32:39):
from the incursions, which they've never fully explained, or it's
because all the superheroes on that earth were eradicated by
that reality version of King. Sometimes they find heroes they
can bring in, and sometimes they don't. But by the
time you get to Avengers, King Dynasty and Secret Wars,
you've basically compiled together a sort of Hodgepodge multiversal Avengers team.

(32:59):
And that's even turn goes into you know, the main
Avengers movies themselves, and then you know the everything follows
the more for formula after that. But I don't know,
it's it's so weird with Deadpool Man because you could
do it and like and the old Christopher Prieste comics.
For example, right when Christopher Priest took over Deadpool from
I want to say it was Gail Simone who took
over before or took over after, like Joe Kelly and

(33:20):
Ed McGinnis liked. You had this opening to the comic
where Deadpool is being brought through basically like this trailer
park and the door's open to where he's going to
be staying, and there's like Moon Night and Iron Fist
and these characters. Because Christopher Priest was the guy who
was tasked with like killing off superheroes back in the day, right,
like what is a power man? In Iron Fist number

(33:40):
one twenty five, he killed off Iron Fist, you know,
the old Moon Night series and so on and so forth,
And Deadpool takes one look and it's just like nope,
and they jumps into a puddle in the ground and
wakes up in a tank, right, And so, like Christopher
Priests is the reason why Deadpool is as crazy as
he is right now in the comics, breaking the Fourth
Wall and all that kind of stuff, that's all Christopher
Priest stuff. But you know, because of the nature of
Pool and how zany is, you could just drop him

(34:02):
into an Avengers movie and no one's gonna be bat an
eye an eyelash over how he got there or why
he's there or anything. They're just going to accept it
because it's Deadpool and they'll just be excited to see him.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
So that's throw him in there he I mean, yeah,
he's just there. Yeah, he met and had a heart
to heart he did.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, that's actually one of the better, one of the
better moments. It was like, there's let's see there was
there was the one instance that deadpoo Kills the mar
of the Universe where he led task Master to the
Florida Everglades, where task Master ended up coming across the
Man Thing and like because he started thinking like Deadpool,
and then he realized what Deadpool realized, which is that

(34:45):
they're all fictional characters. Would scare the hell out of
him and those who feel fear burned the touch of
the man things, the Man Thing like incinerates task Master
on the spot, and then like Deadpool goes into the multiverse. Yeah,
that's for those guys who are listening. That's where a
lot of people are drawing a conclusion that Deadpool three
will in some capacity be Deadpool Kills the Marble Universe

(35:08):
because much like what we're going to be seeing in
Deadpool three, where he is in the multiverse, at the
end of Deadpool Kills the Marble Universe, he goes into
the multiverse. So it's the only story outside of Deadpool,
was it Mark with the Mouth where he was carrying
around Headpool the whole time and ended up like like
crossed through the zombies universe and everything. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah, so outside of the Zombie head it was the
America with the Mouth and that Dido.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's that's right.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah yeah, So outside of that, that's like one of
only maybe a handful of stories like Less than Four
where Deadpool is actually like in the multiverse doing multiversal stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
And I got one last thing since we're in before
we head to a break that makes break because we
always of course, I don't think we're experienced superhero team.
I've never thought that. I think he's just building a genre.
But a lot of people also want to know, do
you do you yourself think we're experienced supero fatigue.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I do not think. I do not think we're experiencing
superhero fatigue at all. What we're experiencing is poor quality products. Now,
I think there are people out there that love to
like paint the picture that well, it's the end times, right,
and they do that regardless of the genre. They would
do that if it was going on with anime, they
would do it if it was going on with Gi
Joe cartoons, right, it doesn't really matter, right, there are

(36:24):
some people out there that just love to paint the
picture of like doom and gloom, the end times are.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Upon us and that kind of a thing, which sucks.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, White people would focus so much on the negative.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
But no, I think that the fact that there's so
much excitement for Dead Full three, and I think the
fact that there's still a lot of excitement for the
Fantastic Four and the X Men, and despite everything going
on with Majors and a lot of the casting for
Kang being up in the air and different things like that,
and so much uncertainty, people are excited for Avengers, Kang
Dynasty and The Secret Wars. I think that's because we

(36:54):
got a series of poorly developed shows that just seem
to be solving a problem that didn't exist, right, you know,
between She Hulk and Moonnight and well, I thought Miss
Marvel was kind of fun, right, but the Marvel's movie
which flopped because one of the main characters everybody hated.
Another main character only appeared in well, really, Monica Rambau

(37:17):
only appeared in Wanda Vision, So if you didn't watch
that show, you didn't know who she was. And if
you didn't watch Miss Marvel. You didn't know who kmal
on Kon was, right, So it was an attempt to
take characters from a show put him into a movie,
which didn't do very well. But you know, I think
that because for one reason or another, there have been
a series of products released by Marvel that people perceive
as being just not quite up to the standard that

(37:39):
we had in the years leading up to Infinity War
and Endgame.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
It turned people off. You know, people are just kind
of like, no, I'm not oking this.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I think people think that is because people don't read
comic books and it just relying solely on like the
movies and TV shows. Like I think the reason why
people don't not understand like the mostiversees stuff like this
because they don't read the comic books enough they went
back to reading the source material, they'll understand it more.
And because I'm understanding everything and I'm not as confused
as everybody saying things are in.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Like SUPERHEROLD World, I don't know, that is my opinion.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Well, also, Marvel's done a terrible job of flushing the
multiverse out and in the Marvel Cinematic universe, right, I mean,
like so here's a good example. What's the most defining
and interesting aspect of the multiverse.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
In the NBCU. That's true, you can think exactly right.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
It's just kind of like because there hasn't really been
anything that's happened in the multiverse outside of like Andrew
Garfield and Toby Maguire showing up right and.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
People care about you know how he cared about the
first line of events, just like hell, when they all
got blipped, we all was sitting in the movie theater
like you gotta drive home a little bit quiet, like
what just happened?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, we haven't seen any stories really from the multiverse.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
We don't don't we don't care about show movies for
the multiverse anything, Like, we haven't really seen anything.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
I mean, we we got we got what if? What? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:04):
And what If isn't necessarily bad, but there were just
huge missed opportunities like ant Man three, Quantumnia.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I never would have made that movie.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I would have made a movie about Okay, yeah, I
would have made a movie about King and like I
would have made a movie where it's just like how
the Council and maybe it's just like a series. It
would be a little weird and it'd be a huge risk.
But you basically do a movie that is kind of
an anthology series, right where basically or you can do
it as a TV show, but like it's an anthology
thing where like.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
A different era.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, well each episode is a yeah, each episode is
a different King, right if Kang? I mean, you could
call that if you wanted to, and maybe it might
fit better as a TV show as opposed to a movie,
but like what what I wanted to see and what
a lot of people in the theater wanted to see
during ant Man and wat Quantumnia because you have that
scene for the trailer which we saw in the movie
where Kane is like, haven't I killed you already? Right,

(39:55):
which obviously Kang has killed Avengers before, so it's like
show us Kan killing the Avengers because because one of
the one of the bigger issues too is that the
gravity of King and the significance of King is entirely
lost on the audience, because.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
That was our main thing. Is like even with me,
I told my man, not, I.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Mean, you cannot have many and not the way that
he go not the way that he should have went
ahead and cried up his butt and made him expe
Yeah no.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
So my main thing was King in that movie was
terrifying at first, and then he falls off part, especially
like during the prison interrogation scene. I was like, oh, man,
you can tell he'll kill this. He'll kill a man immediately,
like no remorse, He'll kill his daughter, don't care. And
I felt that and then it falls off.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
It doesn't because it fell into the Marvel formula where
like the hero always has to win. But like that
should have been a movie where like King wins and
like somebody should have been killed, whether it was it
was hate him, you know, or or Janet Vandyne or
both or whoever, but like it should have been a
movie where it's like wow. But the bigger issue here

(41:08):
is with Thanos and the Infinity Gaulet. It's like, okay, cool,
his main motivation is to snap his fingers and dust
half the life in the universe. Even the reality and
the significance of what a person can do with the
Infinity Gauntlet was never really explored in an Infinity War
and Avengers in game, because if they had, they would
have invoked time travel in a lot of other ways

(41:30):
outside of what was just done now a lot of
that's because the power of the Gauntlets is just or
the power of the goals, and then even the Infinity
Stones is drastically scaled down in the MCU compared to
what you can do in the comics.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
But for King, right, like.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
The biggest thing that they should have established is how
can you possibly defeat a guy who can go back
in time and simply just prevent you from existing.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
How do you beat that guy? Right?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Like the Avengers are here, the Avengers are as symbol,
you know, like it'd be so cool, right if you have,
like during King Dynasty or Avengers super Wars, whatever, you
have like this greatly huge team as a symbol, right,
just like you had at the end of Avengers d game,
right in the greatly Huge battle. But then suddenly they
start disappearing, they start vanishing because the Kings are going

(42:17):
back and wiping them out before they ever become superheroes. Right,
So like Steve Rodgers never gets a super soldier see him,
or Kane just kills him or something like that. That's
Steve rod That Captain America is gone. And so so
you basically get what you got in like the beginning
of House of m where everybody just starts vanishing, just
starts disappearing. In Spider Man's like the last guy left,
and then the scarlet, which shifts reality and then you

(42:38):
get like the entire house of them event right.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, no that deserve Wolverine is like giving him
a reality chick. Yea. Yeah, He's like, he finally got
the happy ending.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
He dude, he got the life that he wanted. Right
he was he was a superhero.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
He was pretending to be a mutant everybody because I
think everybody knew his identity and house of him. I
can't remember if that was the case or not, but
like he got the life he always wanted. And then
Wolverraine's like, hey, man, just so you know, Yeah, wolf
Raine's like, hey, just uh, just so you know, Peter Parker,
none of what you're living is real. And like myself
and these guys over here and this girl Leila Miller,
whose powers are ambiguous because she's a plot device, we

(43:24):
are going to change everything. So this life that you love,
we're gonna fuck it up. Just so yeah, like we're
gonna take it away from you, and and you weren't
gonna go back to just yeah, And it was it was.
It was kind of crushing because when you when you
when you take a step back and.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
You look at you know, just say dude.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
So so when you when you go back and you
look at House of M for what it was, honestly,
it was kind of amazing, right because like Scott for
people who never read House of M. Like the Scarlet Witch,
she takes Charles Xavier from the X Men. She literally
grabs his mind, like takes control of his mind and
reads the subconscious thoughts of everybody in the world in
order to figure out what it is they desire most,

(44:06):
and then she creates it. Like she she literally creates
this utopia. So like mutants are no longer hunted and feared, right,
like Wolf Rain is being a mistique, which I guess
is what he always wanted, you know, but like the
artist of the Circumstance, like like you like, everybody kind
of has what they want. Carol Danvers is relevant, right, yeah, man,
Like doctor Okay, there is a really cool moment. I

(44:27):
don't know how many people ever caught this. There's a
really really cool moment that was teased. We never got
to see it explored where the century was talking about
the void and like doctor Strange is interviewing him. Yeah,
like doctor Strange is an actual psychologist and he's talking
to him, and Robert Reynolds keeps talking about just like
this primordial darkness, like this evil in him that he's
afraid of what will happen if it comes out? And

(44:49):
seems Strange is like, and how does that make you feel?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
But like, if you're familiar with the century, you're like,
so if there were like one guy who could manifest
and bring this entire reality rashing down in one fell
swoop and chance and like challenge the power of the
scular well probably not the skular witch at that point,
but like on a regular basis channel, you know, challenge
the power of the scholar, which it would be the void, right,

(45:11):
like the ability to alter reality with no defined limits. Yeah, man,
like it was, but it was it was a it
was a really really it was a really cool moment.
I have no idea how he got in the house
of or topic.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Oh god, I agree, though, I think they should definitely
lose more in Marvel movies. That we had like a
little Twitter space thing where we talked about it, and
everyone guessed when I said, I don't think that they
I don't think they should win.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I think they should have lost in that movie.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
They Yeah, they should have because it would have established
the gravity and the significance of Kang, right like, because
I mean, that's what happened with Thanos right the end
of Infinity War. Thanos he gets what he wants, he
snaps his fingers and when we first said he beat
the ship out of hole. Yeah, and it's just like, damn,
this dude is like serious business. And and I don't
I don't honestly think it needs to turn into a
trope where like you always have two Avengers movies and

(45:58):
in the first one that heroes lose and the second
they come back. But I think that, like in ant
Man have lost Quantum Mania, you know, because they were
help bent on making that movie. Yeah, dude, Tony, I'm
with you hundred percent. Man, they should have lost, Like Hank,
him and Janet van Dyne should have been killed off.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That's the end of them. Right.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
So there's like no one out there beyond these guys
who were stuck in the quantum realm that actually understand
the true nature of Kang. So there goes any information
that anybody could have outside of maybe those who exist,
like what is it Loki in the Loki TV series,
there's like there's like Loki and those guys. And my
my answer to that was the Fantastic Four. It was
how to put the Fantastic Four in the unc But

(46:36):
but yeah, like, yeah, I'm with you, man, Like they
should have lost. Some folk should have died, king should
have just escaped and it would have just been like
and and it should have happened in such a way
where it's like, not only did like Scotland and those
guys lose, they never even had a chance to win, right,
Like there was no conceivable way they had a chance
to win. They should have just been an absolute domination.

(46:58):
But I go to another quick break. But when we
come back Eli's Corner after this, and we are back,
So Eli's Corner, Eli, what you got today?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Eli's Trivia is back.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
We got a comic book person here, so I decided,
let's bring me some coming trivia that bring it back.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Who one of the last coming trivia was.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Us Yeah, I mean, and you always have a comic
person here just just saying come on, man, it ain't
the same.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You ain't the same.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
But uh, yeah, we got some trivia and Eli Corn
you know everybody's favorite segment, and uh, let's go.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Man, got some questions here this side of the game.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
Go Rob, your name is your buzzle, So if I
hear your name first, that means you get to answer
first question.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Do I just say you feel you finished?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Hiss your girl because you're finish head the Yeah, your
name a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I was just say Rob.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
So now everybo I got to say he got, he
gotta say how much?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Explained he got to? Man, it just makes more sense
that way. But yeah, oh, man to see if my
mic fucked me over to day.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, get everything ready, man, I want her.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
I want her. No excuses Drake about you being lagged against.
I'm here, bro, I'm here all right. First, Eli's trivial.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
We got what year was the first modern comic book
printed comica?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
That's not fair, five nineteen six. Anybody else got Drake?
So he said he did? All right? He wrong to
go ahead? Comes explained you did? Okay, I want to
say it was nineteen thirty four, nineteen thirty five, one
year off again, that's wrong. It was it thirty nineteen

(48:57):
thirty three.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Nineteen thirty three. Okay, now I can tell you what comedy.
I can tell you what comic it was, and I
can tell you who and I can tell you who
made it, who was it and what was Okay, Well,
it can go one of two ways. People say Famous
Funnies number one, that's that's actually that's that's not right.
The answer is New fun Comics number one by Malcolm
Wheeler Nicholson.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
The more you fucking know, y'all, the more you knows, right,
But you.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
See, but you see, you see the bulls shit he'd
be on that time. I just know this is where
we is. The rest of the game that I gotta stop.
Like son of I was off by one. Got okay?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Next, Peter Parker lives in a cruddy apartment on what
Street in New York City?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
But oh god, okay comics explaining, yes, I know it's
associated with Ben Grimm. I want to say Yancey Street,
but I don't think that's right.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And rhyme right m Street? No, Ted Clancy Street, Nope.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Fancy Street was it was Christie Street, Christie Stree, rhyme
with Yancey. That doesn't run with Yancey Christy Street. They're
both into the y so they don't.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
They don't like conversation. We gotta have a conversation about rhyming.
Bro It's gonna make you want to strangle him. Then
with one Brandon, Tony's gonna win and watch God. So
Man is the most famous d C comics character. What

(50:39):
is his real name? Dre said at first, Clyde, that's
not fair.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Hell right, Okay, that was really that was really easy.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Now if you would have asked the question I keep
the name what was the name of the city that
was shrunk down and kept in a bottle that Superman
has in the Fortune Solitude, that's a more difficult one.
It's like, well the bottle city of Canbor, right, Or
or if you had said, like, what is the name
what was the name of Supergirl's city? Well that's Argo City, right,

(51:18):
Like I mean it's like those, yeah, those are those
are more difficult, right, all right, that's there's.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
There's a part of me.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
There's a part of me that wants to like ask
just these ridiculous comic book questions that were just fresh people.
But yeah, Eli, go this is fun. This is fun, alright,
go out to movies. What year was the first Iron
Man movie? Released exactly right, coming back. That's right, that's
what's the matter, right, fuck you.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
It's like we had about you get a little ways,
you got a little man.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Teeni's over there, d He's in such a competitive mode
right now. This guy's got his shirt off.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I'm surprised.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
This is kind of this is this is us every
other episode.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Really, it's when he gets serious, he gets serious.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I'm here, dude, you're like, you let the guy from
that video where he's like water is what? Yes, he's
shirt comes off like halfway through. Nobody saw when he
took it up.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, it's just it's just awful off all of a sudden. Yeah,
all right, Nick, when did comic come start?

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Fucks right? Yes, two thousand and two. Way out what
you're off?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Bye? Like forty years wait, Dan, oh shit, I'm thinking
about eight three was explained? Uh, I'm thinking about eight three. I'
fucking that. I want to say nineteen sixty seven and
Tony nineteen seventy. Right, there's one point of Tony nineteen.
He's saying nineteen seventy.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Damn that's what Tom got there, right. If you wouldn't
have gave your answer though.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's true. I went off here?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Answer, that's that's usually how I come back from behind.
You know, someone gets it off just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
All right, this question not left field? Right here? Who
was Elvis Presley's favorite superhero, the one who didn't die
from a drug overdose? Settle right?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Whichever musician he stole the music from?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Going with that with green Land and Black Green Out.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Jon Stewart, Get this, Get this, it's Captain Marvel Junior?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Was it really? Give me why? Okay?

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Okay, no, actually, actually okay, actually I can get behind
that because the Shazam family back in the day, if
you ever go back and read like those really old
school like Captain Marvel comics before you wash Zam, they
were pretty dope.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Technically they were crazy.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Billy Batson gets his powers from a crazy man who
leads him into a subway tunnel. Hasn't just you know,
puts him on a magic train that sends them to
another old man that you know, it's weird, right, It's
literally is set up for a sketchy situation.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
But yeah, it's bonkers.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
But yeah, like those old stories man with the Suzamn
family were pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Okay, Nick, what comic did Greenland first?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Appearing col Yes comic explain d C Showcase. Oh god,
the name of the comic. The name of the comic company? Oh,
DC Comics, DC Showcase.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Wait the name. Oh no, no, you're talking.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Oh you're talking about the old school company. Okay, it's
all American comics. Yes Comics, it is.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
It wasn't Green Lantern number It wasn't a solo comic,
was it. No, it wasn't coming No it was Oh no,
it was all Star Comics. I think there you got it.
It was it all Star?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Was it number one? Number two? You already got the
lass right, because it is the ass you've been what.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
I thought you were asking for the issue number. I
thought you the Green Arrow team up. When he first
introduced Green Lantern, Green Arrow, that was a series. Green
Arrow was introducing the old all Uh. I remember if
he was all American or if he was National Allied.
It's so confusing because they were sister companies back then.
So like Wonder Woman was all American, Green Lantern was
all American. The Flash J Garrick I think was national. No,

(55:31):
I think he was all American because Johnny Quick was
National Allied Publications. Batman was National Superman? Was National.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Green Animals?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Okay, here's a here's a question that does not pertain
it all to Eli's corner. What was the weakness? Okay,
what was the name of the original green lantern? And
what was his weakness? And here's a hint.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
No, the one that was that was that was weak
to wood and yellow?

Speaker 4 (55:58):
No, no, it's okay, So you have it. Okay, So
what wood? It's not the color yellow, but Alan Scott
is the one. His weakness was wood. Yeah, you could.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
You could defeat that guy with a toothpick by folk? Yeah, man,
yeah yeah, just beat him unconscious with a stick with
the camp all right. Next, who killed Thomas and Martha?

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Wayne Xavier comes explaining Victor's ass and.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
That's right, Joe chill another one. He's fixing the comic
book knowledge Victor. Victor's as would have been a cool one, though, Victors.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I'm thinking watching the TV show, so I'm thinking it's
from they put victors asses.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Next?

Speaker 6 (56:45):
What African country was Nakia operating in as a spot
before t'chayla rath and brought her back to Wakanda.

Speaker 8 (56:52):
Yes, now, I do not remember A three two Ethiopia
dray Nagery.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's right. One point for you want you on the phone.
Oh okay? I thought he was on his phone for
a minute there. I was like, bro no because I was.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Saying Niger because I was gonna be paying.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And say, you know hard or.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
But I was like, no, it's not it's not nice,
it's not you. It's one of the it's one of
the n word African countries. All right, let's see that's
nick okay. Who is Raymond Palmers onto ego comelain? Yes,
come to plain, uh the anomal that's.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Right, he is roasted.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
I've never seen nobody put on performers like this, just
Tony didn't. But he was Black History Month when he
won a Black History mon Let's not talk about that.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
We're not just it is this black.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Isn't get ship? Okay? All right?

Speaker 6 (58:04):
Which superhero was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Which superhero is created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.
Oh commas explain? There are.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Three big one the big one Captain America.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
That's right, I said another I said, but I was
gonna get the answer completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
You know, Oh you said your name?

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Oh my bad dude, you gotta speak up, exavior man like,
you gotta be loud, bro, see what Man's like?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
You get this?

Speaker 6 (58:33):
I know, I know you got no stuff. Who is
the first super villain in Superman?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Exavier? Examer? Who's the first super villain Superman? Yep? That
the metal dude with the crypt the night stomach. You
get the name? Anybody else? The first villain? Hold on?
The first villain in Superman? Yep? Who was the first
Superman solo series? Yep? Or villain Superman? Was it Lex

(58:58):
sluthon he was introducing to the Yes, it was ult
It was Ultra human Knight. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
To do with the kryptonite stomach, I forget his name? No,
that's that is metallic? Metallic Okay, damn yeah, I would
have got that one wrong. I never would have guessed that.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Ult. I never would have guessed that. You get too.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Large questions this time I explained, can't answer and then
they're too hard.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Okay. What color kryptonite is not harmful to Superman Xavier? Yeah? Yellow? No?
Damn it? Yes? Red, Nope, that makes some evil tony Yes, pink, no,
that makes him get three blue rypt hor white, krypton

(59:53):
kite white Chryston Knight. Hold on, what does white Krypton?
I do? Yeah, it's not harmful to them. I don't
know what exactly it does. When the fuck he was
white crypt it was?

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
It was on a small viel uh a small Okay, okay,
you guys, do you guys want to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Know in all plant life that it comes at the
contact week? Do you guys want to know something absolutely horrific?
But I have never watched Small Villa.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Oh my god, I have never seen the small How
old are you? I have? I have?

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I know, I know, I have never seen an episode
of Small mill Wold. I've seen clips on like TikTok
and stuff, but I've never actually sat down on it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I bet she's seen it. I bet you she's seen it.
That's when c W is actually good.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Yeah, all right, since this game, the Flash was not bad.
The Flash was fun. This is like this is the
Flash got bad. Superman was like early two thousands.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
But Small Bill is the reason why we got Flash,
Green Arrow and all the other shows them shows with
that last three seasons, the last three seasons of Flash,
like Pulling Teeth Man, we don't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
They weren't they were not that they wasn't terrible. Elis was.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
Okay, all right, we got since comes explained like he won,
We're gonna just give him to a couple of mouffle
fun and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
I thought it was I could I got on the board.
Damn it he was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
He was too far. He's too far up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Man, Wait, you can't pull the magical just like mant question.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I mean it's fine to find find just like a
ridiculously hard question.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Okay, in it, man, what animal did Darren Cross unsuccessfully?
Hold on? What animal did? What a man?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
What animal did Darren Cross unsuccessfully shrimp Xavier? Yes, right, no,
it was it was Oh you would.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Come but question okay, you put up Wait we're talking
about the movies or comics.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
That was the mo movies, the movies. Okay, okay, alright,
all see where we're going.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Okay, see the comic book moves out. Now that one
is too easy. That was too easy. See that's too
that's way too easy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
I'm glad you got that much faith in us. Yeah,
y'all gonna know all that's the way too easy. Who
was the first superhero over Exavier? Yes, it was Superman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
No, the very first superhero ever created Jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I don't say great, but yeah, Mickey mass very first. Okay,
who's the very first superhero over Jesus? Okay, I wouldn't
know what the answer is because I'm about to contest
what's fandom. The phantom is not a superhero.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That's what I said. You don't have the phantom of
the Phantom.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
That was that was that was the significance of Superman
and that he was the world's first superhero. Yeahs, Batman
count Just because he wears a mask doesn't mean he counts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
He's a fucking detective. No. No, here's a question. The
fantom is basically cave Man Batman.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Here's here's here's here's a question that's gonna blow your
alls mind. I'm curious you guys can get it. So
Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster created Superman when they worked
in National Allied Publications. They worked on a comic book
that was the precursor to Batman. What was the name
of that comic?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Oh ship, I know his id. Damn. I remember the castill.
But because he had a gun in this one, No
he didn't. Okay, he had a baseball bat.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Created credit Jerry Well. They didn't create it, but they
worked on it, Jerry Singal and Joe Schuster. It was
a character named Sam Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Somebody in popular culture that we should know it is
a guy named slam Bradley. So he's like Batman.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Is a character still around these names because I just
I have no idea. Yeah, slam Bradley was dope man
like he he I mean, he used a baseball bat,
but more often than not he was like I think
on the cover of the comic he was like swinging
some guy around by his feet or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Like he was. You were like a less violent version
of Batman Man. I ain't never heard of it. Yeah, yeah,
that's pretty used.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
To think it was Batman, But there was like no
do you history. You came up by some really ancient
ship and I was like, what I mean, okay, So.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
The Phantom, the Phantom, Doc Savage, all those guys, they
were all like polt magazines, right, So those were like
precursors to to comic books that were like novella's and
stuff like that, and there was like some air of
like superstition and stuff like that. But like before Superman,
there was no like Boots Cape Belt, right, flying through
the air. Well, technically Superman jumped, but like nonetheless, like

(01:04:49):
there was none of that stuff. So yeah, Superman, Yeah,
Superman is definitely the first superhero. Like Xavier absolutely got
that one. Disagreed on the on the thing, and they
know what they talk. I'm taking effects the fantom. I'm
taking the phantom.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Comics explain says, it comes explain. It means it's right. Hey, hey,
I'm not gonna. I'm not I'm not right one hundred
percent of the time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
So but I would argue that I would argue that
that's the end of the lock corner as we expect.
That comes explains when easy lead, might I add, but
let's go ahead close this thing out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Man, Well we've reached the end to another exciting episode,
amazing episode of the trap Ners podcast. Well, let's go
ahead and sign off. Of course, we're gonna sign off
with our guests. First rob lets go to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
So it's it's coming to explained across all the social
media's uh Twitter, Instagram, obviously you here TikTok, although we're
not really active on TikTok too much anymore. But yeah,
like the overall just is that I can I can
make you a coming with sport like thirty minutes from us.
It's really like the whole idea behind us. But yeah,
I've never been really heard at marketing myself, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Hey, but you still gotta through.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
You still got means of you on YouTube and everybody
go to you for what they need to know if
I come up books. So you're market yourself pretty well
to me. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
I used to just watch you in college and be like,
all right, so I need to catch you. I don't
like comic book ship and your videos. I having him
like he sounds like very white kind of but he's
just playing the comic book shit turned up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Listen, Le's go ahead and sign.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Off with you as I always follow your boy on
our socials at Popcorn.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Does be d a zombie? H We finished give me
like full mo days.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
We finish him persona five and then we're gonna go
back on a random shuffle of we're gonna play Nicks,
Me and s next might have back on Cross six.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, the ex vastional all platforms I've been streaming hell divers,
it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I'll be doing it again.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
I can't get follow me on instagramming the real so
following on Twitch at official son trap Nerse game night
coming back probably like next Saturday or something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
We'll find something to do. Have to change together to
drink our job now, so we have to change together.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And thank you to mister Robert Jefferson from Coming to
Explained for finally joining us on the Trap Beers podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
It's the trap Beers podcast. We are out now.

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