October 27, 2022 • 40 mins
The media finally admits a red wave is coming, but it has always been there. So why did it take so long for the media to acknowledge it? Ned Ryun, the founder, and CEO of American Majority, joins Lisa to discuss. Also, what do the midterm elections mean for the realignment of the Republican Party as working-class voters continue to change parties? And is it time for Mitch McConnell to go?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've seen a lot of changes in American politics over
the years, particularly with President Trump, the America First Movement
really reshaping the Republican Party. The Republican Party is now
the party of the working class, of working class voters,
Democrats the party of coastal leads. And we've seen recently
even AOC who purported to be on the side of
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the working class now getting shut down, shouted down at
some of the events that she's been she's been holding.
People are now aware that she's a fraud, that the
Left are frauds on a lot of these issues. So
what is this November November eight, this election, these mid terms?
What does it mean for that? What does it mean
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for this realignment? And what does it mean for the
current Republican leadership. Is it time for Mitch McConnell to go?
I think so? Will it be his time to go?
And and some of these critical races we have liber
Terryan candidates on the ballot. Will they be spoilers? We're
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gonna ask all these questions to my friend ned Ryan.
You've probably seen him on Fox. He's on Tucker a
lot with Laura Ingram as well. He is the founder
and CEO of American Majority, a nonpartisan political training institute
whose mission is to identify and mold the next wave
of liberty minded candidates, grassroot activists, and community leaders. Since
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its founding in January of two thousand eight, American Majority
has trained over fifty thou candidates and activists. He's a
really smart guy. He's a friend of mine. So we'll
hear what he has to say and what does he
think is going to happen on November eighth, What are
his predictions? All of that and more. Stay with us, Ned, Ryan.
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That Ryan, It's good to have you on the podcast,
my friend. Yeah, absolutely, good to be with you. Lisa.
Last time I saw you was at a Buck's engagement party.
That was a lot of fun. That was a total blast.
I was telling my wife later, it was just fun.
For everybody that you've either interacted with on TV, that
you've known of seen, and we were all in the
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same room together, it was It was awesome. It was
an awesome evening. And I typically do not stay until
they shut us down, but we stayed until I shut
us down and went to the after party at the
local pub. So it was it was an awesome night.
I did not get home till a lot later than
I normally stay out. Ditto, ditto. But it was so
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much fun to see you and meet your lovely wife,
So that was it was a lot of fun. But
you know, and we had a great night, and things
are starting to look brighter politically in the country. You know,
we've got the light at the end of the tunnel
coming up here in November eight. How are you feeling
about things, Well, I've always felt bullish about Republican chances
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pretty much the entire time. I think I think we
threw some people off. Which frustrated me a little bit
was the attempt by the corporate propagandists and Democrats to
somehow really sell a false narrative that Democrats had a
legitimate chance in the mid terms of somehow holding onto
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the House. You know, I think it's a false narrative
that they're going to hold onto the Senate, that they
weren't going to get absolutely crushed in these mid terms.
At least part of it was just basically, you cannot
escape the gravitational pull of history and a lot of
trends that has shown along the way that the first
mid term for a president is usually pretty pretty brutal,
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especially if that presidents below and approval rating. And I've
joked in op eds and on Twitter when a president
is under on average he loses thirty seven seats in
the House in his first mid term. I don't know
how bad it gets when you have a president that's
under forty in approval rating, where Biden is in some
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of these these national polls. But to give people perspective,
you know, Bill Clinton was at I think in approval.
I believe he lost fifty three seats in the House
that year. Fast forward to Barack Obama was forty five
and approval rating and lost sixty three seats in the House.
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Now there's different dynamics obviously between those years and redistricting,
some of the lines have gotten hardened, all of those things.
I have no trouble believing that the low end of
pickups for Republicans in the Houses you will be thirty
seven seats according to historical averages. But I'm starting to
suspect it will be in the forties, if if not higher. Yeah, no,
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I agree I think that this race is or obviously
we can't get up, give up. We need a uh
in a full force ahead until November eight. But you're right,
I I do. We live in this era where the
media isn't interested in reporting the facts, they're interested in persuading.
But what we've come to realize with as well, posters
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do too. Oh this is the thing I've been you know,
the psy ops, the operation on polls. And I remind
people again in the infamous ABC Washington post in Wisconsin
that showed Biden winning by seventeen points the week before
the elections, he ends up winning by twenty thousand votes,
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and I have serious questions about whether he actually won
that state based off some stuff, but still seventeen points
and barely ekes out a win by I don't even
think it was a full point. And they were attempting
to do the same thing this year, Lisa, this is
the thing that frustrated me a little bit with some
on the right and conservatives starting to panic when they
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actually believe some of these rigged and manipulated polls. And
I've been highlighting over the last few weeks registered voter
polls are trash. They mean nothing, garbage, Their garbage coming
down the home stretches the likely voter polls, and the
likely voter polls have typically always shown Republicans winning the
generic by anywhere from to three upwards of six points,
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And now what you're seeing is even these registered voter
polls are showing Republicans up five six points. So you know,
I just moving forward, and again, I'm extremely optimistic about
pickups in the House. I think we're gonna take the Senates.
I think we're gonna have a thirty twenty, if not greater,
Republican gubernatorial split. I think we're gonna pick up state
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legislative seats, secretary of state, attorney generals. I think it's
going to be pretty definitive. But in the future, Republicans
and Conservatives need to look at polls with a very
skeptical eye and ask themselves are these properly weighted? Are
these registered voter versus likely voter? And don't fall for
these games again, because the corporate propagandists are driving a
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certain narrative and in many ways trying to suppress the
vote by really trying to say, well, it's you know,
you don't have as good a chance of winning this election,
You're not going to have a definitive a win. Just
ignore them. It's not the truth. Well, and that's what
it is. It's to suppress the vote and also donors
as well. Ned. I mean that's that We've seen Mitch
McConnell pull out of Arizona, a race where Blake Masters
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is going to win, and he pulled out. He canceled
almost ten million dollars in television ads. Uh, closer to
eighteen million actually by the time it's all said and done,
which is a crying shame. Which to make matters even worse, Lisa,
he's dropped I believe, seven million into the Alaska race,
which is essentially two Republicans running against each other. It's
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just he wants Murkowski to win, who I think is
a complete and utter disaster. But but to highlight how
bad it is, again pulls out eighteen million dollars worth
of ads from Arizona on behalf of Blake Masters. Quite frankly, Lisa,
of because he's made it known he hates Blake and
has spent seven million in a race that a Republican
is going to win. Regardless. It's absolutely insane. But but
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I would you know, since we're talking about Mitch McConnell,
I would remind people Mitch is far more concerned with
twenty six votes than he is with fifty one, And
by that I mean he wants to have control of
the Senate GOP Caucus no matter what happens on November eight.
And it's a shame because I would hope that he
would have a much bigger, larger view of what's actually
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taking place in this country. But he can't get past himself.
Do you think he will be in a leadership position
when Republicans take back the edit? Or is this time up?
If I'm being completely honest, I sincerely hope his time
is up. But but I've been involved in leadership election,
but that was in the House for ten years. First
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of all, you've got to get a horse to ride, right.
It's one thing to say we despise Mitch McConnell, and
I'll be the first to tell you I loathe and
despise miss McConnell, But in you have a horse to
ride in that majority leader race, it's you're basically, for
all intents and purposes, howling at the moment. My hope
is that Rick Scott will step up. And Rick Scott
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out of Florida is the NRSC, the nash Republican Senatorial
Committee Chair this year, I think Republicans are probably gonna
got seven, but even six, and if he has a
really successful cycle, I think Rick Scott has the ability
to stand up and say I can be I'm a
legitimate option as majority leader to Mitch McConnell. But but
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the real question is will he actually stand up and
throws happening ring? Yeah. I mean they've they've been fighting
a little bit publicly, so maybe I don't I want
to say. I mean, you know, as Mitch McConnell has
been really truly bagging on Blake masters, what's probably not
as well known as that, Rick Scott went out of
his way to help outside entities raise money to kind
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of fill the gap uh in some of the outside
spending in Arizona on the half of Blake. So Rick
is committed uh to these races and actually making sure
Republicans get the majority, which I would argue I'm not
fully convinced Mitch mcconnelly's well. And what's important is, you know,
Mitch McConnell just doesn't fit in with today's Republican party.
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It has left him behind. He's a he's a relic.
He is part of the past and the party's changing. No,
I mean he's he's a complete relic of the Republican
Party that no longer exists. That he's far more concerned.
He's very myopic on what goes on. He wants to
be in charge of the GOP Caucus, inside of the U. S. Senate,
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everything else, in my my estimation having observed him, his details.
But the thing that concerns me, Lisa is we all
know that if Mitch McConnell is not leader, and nobody
else steps up, you're stuck with a John Cornan or
a John Thune, who I would argue, aren't a whole
lot better, maybe even worse than Mitch McConnell. I think
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John Corner would be worst because at least Mitch McConnell
doesn't believe in today's Republican Party, but he at least
can fight, whereas John Cornan, as we saw, sell us
out with this an amendment. Yeah, so I agree, I
don't trust. I think he's a nice guy, but he's
just not right. And that's the point is we've seen,
you know, you've been witnessed, you've been part of it,
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this massive realignment in American politics or the Republican Party
is now the party of the working class, you know,
the leftists, the coastal elite. What do you think this
election means for that continued evolution of the parties in
realignment I have. This has been one of my arguments,
you know, coming into obviously in the primaries, which so
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s Lisa, when I do American Majority trainings, which is
an entity I started roun. I always remind people a
couple of things. Politics is policy, but a party is
what people say it is. And the people who say
what it is are those that show up and win
in primaries and show but conventions. And I think this
thing Donald Trump did this year, which I wholeheartedly applauded,
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is that he went into primaries and made sure that
he endorsed the strongest America First candidate and heavily contested
races to make sure that candidate won. And so if
America First candidates are winning Republican primaries, you begin to
change the complexion of the Republican Party. It will still
say Republican on the storefront, but the essence will completely change.
And I think you started to really see something change
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this year, in which obviously Donald Trump was the beginning
of it. But he's continued in in which the Republican
Party's essence is is truly changing to more of America First.
It's not gonna happen just because of one election, though
I would remind people this will take multiple elections, multiple primaries,
but even more so, and I've told Trump this, it's
one thing for America First candidates to win primaries. Now
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you've got to seal the deal. They've got to win
the general. And when they win the general, then they
become the standard bears for the Republican Party as America
First candidates quick commercial break more than ned Ryan Well.
And of course we were told that they weren't going
to win the general election. But now Carry Lake looks dynamite.
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In Arizona, Blake Masters looks like he's gonna he's gonna
pull it off. Oz looks like he's going to pull
it off. I talked to my former boss we just
had on, Chris Wilson of w p A Intelligence. He
thinks Masterrano is going to pull it off. In Pennsylvania's
you've got a lot of these guys. The media said, Hey,
bad Or J. D Vance is looking really good. He's
gonna win Ohio and so you have all these candidates
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to the media, was like, Oh, they're too far to
the right, they're not gonna win. They look like they're
gonna win. Then yeah, And I would also remind people,
you know, we've been focused a lot on the federal races.
Obviously it's hugely important House and Senate. The goubernort Toil races,
to me are really fascinating. Lisa, you mentioned carry Lake.
I do think she's going to win. You know, in Arizona,
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the dynamic is I think we could sweep all the statewides,
not only the goodnatorial but Secretary State Attorney General sleep
Blake in the Senate. I think we could pick up
three state House seats and three state Senate seats in Arizona.
But then you moved to Nevada, you moved to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
These are some really key battleground states for the presidential
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and a lot of these states, like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
you have Republican majorities in the state legislature. What you've
been lacking is a Republican governors who actually signed into
law election reform. For example, in Michigan, Wittmer Vito thirty
nine election integrity bills just this last year. If you
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had a Tutor Dixon winning and you pass those thirty
nine election bills, I think you're going to clean up
a lot of the questions that we have post well.
And also like maybe let's just try to get the
elections done night of you know, so people can actually
have faith in what's going on. This to me is
an utter shame that the American election system is so
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wildly dysfunctional that we have done things, We are doing
things in this country that many countries and other parts
of the world left behind long ago. I continue to
remind people France in nineteen seventy five banned mail in ballots,
why because of the massive amount of fraud that was
taking place with mail in ballots. Most of the world
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does not use electronic voting machines. I mean, there's a
lot of different things that we should be doing. The
thing that I love about Florida, where I know you're
at Leasta, are their election laws in which they start
counting if I'm if I remember correctly, all mail in
ballots three days before election day and then on election
day are counting election day votes, so that the third
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largest state in the Union can actually announce the results
by call it ten or eleven o'clock on election day.
That's how every state should be doing it. Start counting
your mail in ballots three days before so that by
late on election day you can actually announced results. However,
we all know the Left doesn't want to do that.
They want to have upwards of ten days after election
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day to make sure they get enough votes to get
the results they want. Well, and to your point, I mean,
what's going on in your state, your governor, secretary, state
of change. That's probably way more important than these federal elections,
to be honest. One, to your point, to prevent the
tom foolery that we saw in elections, but also just
to stand up to this over aggressive federal government that
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just continues to grow and corporations, to actually make federalism
a real thing again. Yeah, how about that? That is
actually a real part of what the founders envisioned for
our constitutional republic that all powers not granted and they
were very limited powers granted to the national government were
to be given to the state government. And all we've
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been doing over the last hundred years has been consolidating
power into d C but you need guys like Ron
De Santis and others who are gonna say, Nope, that's
not your right to do that. We're not going to
give you that power. In fact, we're going to clause
that power back. But I love it even more, Lisa.
I mean, just even with this ridiculous c d C,
all the kids are going to get as part of
their school immunization schedule, the COVID, which isn't really even
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a vaccine by the way, the COVID vaccine shot. I
mean the fact that every I think every Republican governor
needs to make it very clear, if they haven't already,
we will not let this happen inside of our state.
And that's another way to stand up and say no,
we're not going to let d C or these I
think corrupt institutions dictate to us. It's not your right,
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it's all right, and we're not gonna let it happen.
But it also seems like Republicans are growing a spy.
You know, obviously I'm a huge fan of my governor,
Governor De Santis here one you know what or Secretary
of Health did by or the surgeon general here putting
out a study actually looking at the vaccine saying you
know what, actually there's a lot of real concerns for
young men and what it does to their heart and cardia.
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But just really standing up to the media, standing up
for what is right, standing up for freedom, and it's worked.
I mean, he probably could win by double digits here
in Florida, which would be heard of, so you can
have a spine and still went over the middle, went
over the middle well. And I think the other thing too,
that's going to play into this year. I do think
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the Santists is going to win by double digits. I
think it's going to remove Florida from battleground status for
I don't think Democrats are going to be able to
consider Florida a battleground state, not only because of what
Ron will do this year in a couple of weeks,
but now he's put a lot of time and effort
into boosting Republican registration. I now I think instead of
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being down whatever it was a hundred and fifty or
whatever it was in two or something like that, there's
been a massive switch like that was even like a
month ago, I haven't or there like a couple of
weeks ago or something. So it's got to be. I'd
have to check in with my friends over there, but
uh yeah, it's significant to your point. But think about
the fact that Trump won Florida by three and a
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half points in when when Democrats held a six figure
advantage in registration. So this all leads into I just
don't think Florida is going to be a battleground states,
which frees up our resources to play in other states.
Do you worry about any of these libertarian candidates on
the ballot and some of these critical races, I think
like Arizona has one, Georgia, you know, will they be spoilers?
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My concern is there is the potential maybe in some
of these statewides that are close, for them to be
potential spoilers. I have to tell you, you you know, it's
not one of the things I've really hammered on, but
it is a complete and utter failure by the RNC
to have not made sure that there's a Green Party
candidate on the ballot and a lot of these states,
And knowing how the R and T used to operate
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back in the day, I can tell you they put
a time, a lot of time and money and resources
into actually making sure that a Green Party candidate made
the ballot, and if you look now, I would argue
in most states there's there's not a Green Party candidates
on the ballot, which is a shame. And we all
know that the Libertarians will for the most part, not always,
but for the most part takeaway Republican votes. So I
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would blame the r and C for not doing what
they should have done, um, you know, coming into which
is also frustrating because you know, you look at what
happened heading into and they weren't really prepared for any
of that either. So it's like, what are you guys
doing over there? You know? I mean, I've got I
know people over there who do go work, but it's
just like, come on, you know, we need you know,
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you and I both have serious questions about how some
of the resources are being used or not used at
the r and C. But uh, you know, hopefully those
things will change as we move forward and and maybe
just maybe, you know, the RNC will be run by
a true America first person um in the next Republican administration. Well,
and also I think people we all need to be
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paying as much attention to this stuff as we possibly can,
because we We've seen what has taken place in this
country over the past two years. I mean, they are
hell bent on destroying this country, burning it to the ground,
and throwing us all in jail. So it's like it's
a little bit more important, you know that we are
to talk about tax cuts or medicare or whatever else,
like this is really important. Yeah. No, this is the
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one thing that I you know, I see the Mike
Pences of the world out there, and I'm thinking, you
live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. I think
he's stuck in two thousand six. And that's probably being generous.
It feels like he's running on nighties zombie Reaganism, Like, bro,
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this world doesn't exist anymore, that party doesn't exist. We
want people that will actually stand up inside of the
Republican Party. And first of all, Lisa, reject the premise.
I think that's one of the things that more Republicans
have to do, whether it's dealing with the corporate propagandists,
whether it's dealing with maybe the CDC or all these No,
you know what, I reject your premise. And until you
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prove without a doubt that somehow what you're saying to
me is the truth. I don't believe you. Uh and
and even more so, if you're gonna come at me,
I'm gonna go right back at you. And that's why
you know Donald Trump run to Santa's, Blake Masters, JD,
all these people that are coming and rising up through
the America First Movement, It's about time we had more
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of this, and hopefully we're going to see a lot
more of it moving forward. Well, I'm glad you said
that because I actually had a question I wanted to
ask you in regard to that. And then, uh so
Tucker last night did a segment about carry Lake, uh
talking about how awesome she is because she is, but
talking about how you know, she's really good at just
dismissing these false premises. Trump was amazing at it to
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Santa's is really good. He you know, he's been incredibly
successful doing the same thing as well. Do you think
have have we been able to de legitimate delegitimize legacy
media with us? I think that approached sinuing the trends.
I mean, if you saw that, I think it's even
The Washington Post was asked asked the question, I don't
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think they expected this answer. What do you think is
the greatest threat to democracy, and I think fifteen nine percent,
if I'm remembering erectly said, the greatest threat to our
democracy is is basically an illegitimate corporate media. So I
think the American people are starting to realize more and mora,
although I don't think. First of all, let me be
very clear, the corporate propagandists still have undue influence in
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so many different ways. Although I'm really starting to see
the trends over the last six years of their own volition,
from their own behavior, they are delegitimizing theirselves. And then
what Donald Trump and carry Lake and Rhonda Santis and
others have been doing is just highlighting and pointing it
out to the American people, to show the lies, to
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show the fake news, to show the false narratives that
a lot of the corporate propagandists want to push. Because
I don't think, Lisa, they have most of them do
not have any desire and actually talking about the truth
and actually talking about facts. They're out there to drive
and amplify a narrative that they find beneficial for themselves
and their allies and the Democratic Party. Well, of course
they're They're all liars, right, they slant or they smear,
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they lie, you know, they're all You've dealt with them.
I've dealt with them. I have noticed, and I think
this is an end result of having what I call
indoctrination centers of higher learning, in which a lot of
those that have come out of you know, the university
and college system have been taught what to think, not
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how to think. Critical plane isn't In short, supply, I
would argue, and again this might sound harsh, but I'm
gonna say it anyway, I would argue that the average
i Q for the corporate propagandas has dropped considerably over
the last few years. Well, you're right, they don't critically
think anymore at all. Like even on vaccines, they're just like,
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go out and get it. And I'm like, there's just
no questions about, Oh, maybe we should have questions about
why M or and A vaccines have been to the
market like this before. Maybe we should raise the point
that most vaccines have five to ten years like just
no no questions, just go out and get it. And
if you don't get it, you're an anti vaxxer and
you're evil and you want to kill Grandma or even
or even more so, you know what the Steel dossier
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reads like basically the National Enquirer. Maybe maybe it's not true.
Maybe we should actually ask questions, where did this come from?
Is it legitimate? Does any of this actually make sense?
Or is this just some basically fake dossier filled with
sensational information that's meant to try and take down the
duly elect the President United States. And not only were
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some not asking the question, I think many probably did
realized it was fake and continue to push it and
hope they take out Donald Trump. Well, and it matters
and and one. And what they did to to Donald
I mean, they robbed him of a lot of opportunities,
and he still was able to be really successful. But
you know that does take a lot out of you
if you're pushing back and having to spend all this
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time on that. Yeah. No, I remind people, for four years,
even for longer than four years before he was even
sworn in, Donald Trump was under NonStop, relentless attack meant
to really take him out. What he was able to
accomplish in those four years, though, is nothing short of incredible.
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Knowing the real dynamics of what he was having to
deal with on a day to day basis. So just
you know, absolutely incredibly what he was able to accomplish.
I have to tell you, if if he had not
been under attack, if obviously this whole COVID lockdown ridiculousness
hadn't happened, if the corporate propagandist hadn't gone at him
as strongly as they did, I think you would have
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won re election Handling. I think we'd be in a
much much different, much better place as the country. Absolutely,
I mean we they basically try to burn down the country.
I mean it really is if who knows how many
illegal immigrants have entered this nation since the beginning. But
you know what's really said to me too, as you
see the media lie on just really important things like
one cheerleading us into a war with Russia or secondly
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telling us that there's no big deal if you change
a child's gender, which obviously can't happen you are what
God made you. Or you know, there's no ramifications of
cutting a little boy's pianist off, or giving a little
girl a double homosectomy, or giving kids puberty blockers which
is irreversible, Like just no critical thinking with that or
just taking a moment and being like, what are we
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doing to an entire generation of kids? I I I think, well,
first of all, I've called the transgender movement Luciferian, in
which it is people standing up and saying, I shall
be like God. I will turn a boy into a
girl and a girl into a boy. I will be
as God and do as I please. It's very Luciferian
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and it's it's approach. But I will say this, I
think that it is causing a massive backlash. So in
Virginia last year, obviously Glenn Uncan wins in a state
that Joe Biden, by the way, one by ten points.
The year before, Glenn Yuncan wins by two twelve point swing.
A lot of that started at the school board level,
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the parents revolt against some of the transgenderism, the critical
race theory, some of the awful, awful books that are
being put into school curriculum. The interesting thing I've seen
Li said, So, not only do I think that influence
how Virginia went last year, I think we might be
seeing some of this stuff happening in other places, like,
for example, Michigan in Dearborn, Michigan. In the last couple
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of weeks, Muslims and Christians have united to go after
local school boards over their woke curriculum, and I think
that could influence the gubernatorial race up there and help
Tutor Dixon, and I would remind people, dearborn Michigan is
sev Democrat, So this isn't about parties. This is about
concerned parents, whether they're Democrats, independent, Republicans of all faith,
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all creeds, saying we're not going to allow you to
push this truly demented and sick worldview onto our children.
We're gonna push back. And I think Republicans are absolutely
right and should be doing more of its standing up
and saying we will be working on your behalf. We
will defend your rights as parents to decide what is
being taught schools. And the more Republicans do that, the
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more victories they're going to see. Well, at that point,
Chris Wilson, who had interviewed with w p A Intelligence
the poster there, he said that the biggest movement they've
seen has been with independent women for the very reasons
that you just laid out. And I think we could
see some really interesting things on No. EM eight with
voters that like typically would be like, I can't deal
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with the Republican Party, who are like, all right, I'm
just gonna you know, we're going to go for this
this time considering the alternative. Yeah, I totally agree. I
think this is how you went back suburban moms, especially
on the transgender issue. I can tell you you know
where I'm out in Western Loudon County, Virginia. You know,
there are a lot of parents that spent a lot
of time and money and effort on their daughter's athletic careers,
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and I think a lot of them have started to realize,
wait a minute, if this transgender movement continues to accelerate,
my daughter has absolutely no letic future. So I think
I think it's been kind of a startling wake up
call in which they realize, if I truly care about
my daughter in her future, I've got to find somebody
that's actually going to help me fight against this transgender
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movement and push back. Well, it's not the Democratic Party,
I'll tell you that much there are. They have bought
in their wholesale for it. It's the Republican Party that's
standing up and saying, hey, we're not gonna let let
this happen. And that's why I think you can win
back a lot of suburban families by standing up on
the transgender issue. Yeah. I mean, I played phild hockey
and lacrosse in high school in Virginia, and my parents
would be up in arms if if because it's just
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totally unfairly like. But but like you said, probably would
disagree with Republicans on at least half of the issues,
maybe probably even more, especially up here in western Lavan County.
But on this issue, it's kind of like, what's what's
more important my daughter's future or whatever other issue, and
they're gonna say it's my daughter's future. That's why I
think even though it might be you know, disagreement on
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the majority of issues, they're gonna probably back Republicans on
this issue along. So I mean, I was telling Donald
Trump in this is a great wedge issue in the
suburban areas. Wish he had played it up a little
bit more. But I think Glenn Yuncan and others have
really fully understood Yeah we should actually because of what
we're normal saying human beings for starters, But there's a
real opportunity here just to simply stand up and say
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we're not gonna let this happen quick break more with ned.
It was just so interesting too, because we saw people
take COVID lying down not you know, not everyone right
like there were you know, we were fighting it and
calling attention to all the lies that we were being told.
But a lot of people really just took it. They accepted, Okay,
(31:40):
I can't I gotta close my business or and I
you know, and I didn't get it, but like or
I have to stay home, or I have to wear
a mask or have to do this or that. And
then it was like the second they started realizing their
kids were being negatively impacted, that was when people started
making some noise, you know, absolutely right. I remember this
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was probably March. I didn't to be honestly, so I
didn't mind the first two weeks because again a lot
of us are like, what's going on? Is this you know,
the second coming of the Black Death, you know, the
Black Plague. After two weeks, though, I mean, I really
made this is how I came to the conclusion this
is nowhere near what I think it is, what people
think it is. I made the argument of somebody who
was texting me, who probably people would recognize the name.
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Very conservative said what's up with all your boomer tweets
on COVID, and I responded to him and said, you know,
I have come to the conclusion that as the d
o J and the FBI had become heavily politicized and
heavily weaponized, I believe that the CDC and the n
i H, who are all part of the same administrative state,
have also become heavily politicized and heavy weaponized, heavily weaponized.
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And I reject the premise. I don't think that they
are actually really First of all, I don't think they
know what they're doing. And second of all, I don't
trust them. And quite frankly, that was March of and
I think everything else has been We've been proven right
those of us that were standing up early he said,
we don't believe you. We reject the premise. You know,
I think it's horrifying. I mean, as you were alluding
to earlier, the Florida Surgeon General saying between what eighteen
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and thirty five for young men increases massively and staggering, staggering,
and now fives are coming out and saying, yeah that
that shot really doesn't stop transmission. I mean, it's horrifying
the social experiment that took place of the last two
and a half years. And I wish more people had
stood up and said, now, I'm a free born American,
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I don't believe you, so no, I'm not going to
submit to this. Well, it's really twisted, as they originally
at the very very beginning said they didn't test for
stopping transmission, and that wasn't really the consideration, and then
along the way they changed their tune. And I don't
I personally think it's because they realized that young and
healthy people would not get it unless they could shame
them into thinking of some sort of public good that
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they were doing. Yeah, absolutely insane. It almost felt like
a dry run of something like, how how much, how many,
how what center to the population can we just get
to submit to this, even though we really haven't given
him a whole lot of justification for doing this. Then,
I have to tell you a little disturbing how much
of American society was like, oh, that's great, Yeah, let's
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just lock down, let's damage our kids future, let's destroy
small businesses, let's put ourselves into an economic situation. All
of this that took place in America's like, yeah, it's fine, sure,
we believe you. Like again goes back to whatever happened
to critical thinking, like you know what, I'm gonna look
at these facts. I'm gonna look at these statistics. I'm
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gonna have a conversation and use common sense. And then
when you go through that process, you like, yeah, no,
I don't believe you. Oh my god that I saw
this video on Twitter. I don't remember who posted it,
who did it, but it's this guy in a mask.
It looked like they're in New York and people are
entering a building and he has a lit roller and
he and all these people walk up. If people haven't
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seen the video, so he's like basically pretending like he's
security at the door entrance. The people come up, he
gets them to open their arms and he lit rolls
them and then he lets them walk and nobody asks
a question that to me was like didn't you think
it was kind of weird that somebody standing at the
front door lent rolling you and nobody based off that
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video even bother to ask what are you doing? Why
are you doing this to me? And like what what
role of authority do you have that gives you the
right to actually do this. Nobody asked a question, they
just submitted to it. This is we kind of created
a We really have created a society of zombie sheep
that they're just kind of going through the motions and
it goes, it goes back to this hole. And again,
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this is a longer topic, we won't have to delve
too much into it. But we really have allowed our
public education system to become indoctrination centers where it's you're
taught what to think, not how to think, and you
have to just just accept what you're being taught, but
you're not really learning how to think critically on any level.
And so it creates a zombie sheet mentality of well,
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this is a this is an authority, this is an
educated elite, this is somebody who's an expert, and if
they whatever they say must be true. So I could
completely shut off my mind. I do not even think
about and examine what they've said. I just accepted because
I've been told the experts are the oracles, they will
tell us the truth, They're only there for our good, etcetera, etcetera,
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which is nothing but a lie. I wonder how much
social media has played into all of that because I
believe it's the public shame that people have. I think
with social media, becomes so accustomed to winning likes and
to wanting to be accepted by like the larger population
in a way that you didn't before because you had
smaller sort of communities and you know, you're exposed to
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a smaller group of people, and so I think it's
sort of created this like social contagion. Everyone's afraid of
being shamed or called names. I have to be like
everyone else in a way that maybe we didn't have
before in society. I would agree. I mean, first of all,
I think it be better if most American people were
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simply unafraid of whatever they were being called. I've been
called everything in the book. I mean, I've been called
a racist, which is not even close to being the truth.
But don't be afraid of what you're gonna be called.
Speak to truth. So that's an important step. But on
on big tech, I gotta tell you, I mean, I
I love Twitter. Don't get me wrong, I'm kind of
addicted to it. If if you guys follow me on Twitter,
I'm on Twitter way too much. It's not really a
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positive thing for our society that Twitter and Facebook and
Instagram and TikTok and snap and all these other things
have such a large role in our society and it's troubling, Lisa.
And this is why I've I've argued for years we
need to break the monopolies up. I mean, if you
if you believe in a free market mentality in which
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competition leads to the best products for individual people, you
can't have that when monopolies dominate the marketplace like Google,
like Amazon, like Apple even We've got to the thing
that Republicans need to do moving full award is take
a strong stance on on big tech and say we're
not gonna We're not gonna let you continue in your
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current state, because I do think that they are an
existential threat to the future of the Republic for so
many different reasons. And I think it's only above break
up the monopolies, remove Section to thirty exemptions, all of
these things. But if we allow big tech to remain
as it is now and continue on the trajectory that
it is, uh, it will not end well. I totally
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agree that I could talk to you forever. Unfortunately, have
a flight to New York's. But we're only criminals are
allowed to have guns, so is there? Yeah? This has
been so much fun, really smart conversation as always you
always are ever every time I see you on it
and talk to you. So I appreciate you joining. Anything
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We've seen a lot of changes in American politics over
the years, particularly with President Trump, the America First Movement
really reshaping the Republican Party. The Republican Party is now
the party of the working class, of working class voters,
Democrats the party of coastal leads. And we've seen recently
even AOC who purported to be on the side of
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the working class now getting shut down, shouted down at
some of the events that she's been she's been holding.
People are now aware that she's a fraud, that the
Left are frauds on a lot of these issues. So
what is this November November eight, this election, these mid terms?
What does it mean for that? What does it mean
(00:43):
for this realignment? And what does it mean for the
current Republican leadership. Is it time for Mitch McConnell to go?
I think so? Will it be his time to go?
And and some of these critical races we have liber
Terryan candidates on the ballot. Will they be spoilers? We're
(01:05):
gonna ask all these questions to my friend ned Ryan.
You've probably seen him on Fox. He's on Tucker a
lot with Laura Ingram as well. He is the founder
and CEO of American Majority, a nonpartisan political training institute
whose mission is to identify and mold the next wave
of liberty minded candidates, grassroot activists, and community leaders. Since
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its founding in January of two thousand eight, American Majority
has trained over fifty thou candidates and activists. He's a
really smart guy. He's a friend of mine. So we'll
hear what he has to say and what does he
think is going to happen on November eighth, What are
his predictions? All of that and more. Stay with us, Ned, Ryan.
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That Ryan, It's good to have you on the podcast,
my friend. Yeah, absolutely, good to be with you. Lisa.
Last time I saw you was at a Buck's engagement party.
That was a lot of fun. That was a total blast.
I was telling my wife later, it was just fun.
For everybody that you've either interacted with on TV, that
you've known of seen, and we were all in the
(02:19):
same room together, it was It was awesome. It was
an awesome evening. And I typically do not stay until
they shut us down, but we stayed until I shut
us down and went to the after party at the
local pub. So it was it was an awesome night.
I did not get home till a lot later than
I normally stay out. Ditto, ditto. But it was so
(02:41):
much fun to see you and meet your lovely wife,
So that was it was a lot of fun. But
you know, and we had a great night, and things
are starting to look brighter politically in the country. You know,
we've got the light at the end of the tunnel
coming up here in November eight. How are you feeling
about things, Well, I've always felt bullish about Republican chances
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pretty much the entire time. I think I think we
threw some people off. Which frustrated me a little bit
was the attempt by the corporate propagandists and Democrats to
somehow really sell a false narrative that Democrats had a
legitimate chance in the mid terms of somehow holding onto
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the House. You know, I think it's a false narrative
that they're going to hold onto the Senate, that they
weren't going to get absolutely crushed in these mid terms.
At least part of it was just basically, you cannot
escape the gravitational pull of history and a lot of
trends that has shown along the way that the first
mid term for a president is usually pretty pretty brutal,
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especially if that presidents below and approval rating. And I've
joked in op eds and on Twitter when a president
is under on average he loses thirty seven seats in
the House in his first mid term. I don't know
how bad it gets when you have a president that's
under forty in approval rating, where Biden is in some
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of these these national polls. But to give people perspective,
you know, Bill Clinton was at I think in approval.
I believe he lost fifty three seats in the House
that year. Fast forward to Barack Obama was forty five
and approval rating and lost sixty three seats in the House.
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Now there's different dynamics obviously between those years and redistricting,
some of the lines have gotten hardened, all of those things.
I have no trouble believing that the low end of
pickups for Republicans in the Houses you will be thirty
seven seats according to historical averages. But I'm starting to
suspect it will be in the forties, if if not higher. Yeah, no,
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I agree I think that this race is or obviously
we can't get up, give up. We need a uh
in a full force ahead until November eight. But you're right,
I I do. We live in this era where the
media isn't interested in reporting the facts, they're interested in persuading.
But what we've come to realize with as well, posters
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do too. Oh this is the thing I've been you know,
the psy ops, the operation on polls. And I remind
people again in the infamous ABC Washington post in Wisconsin
that showed Biden winning by seventeen points the week before
the elections, he ends up winning by twenty thousand votes,
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and I have serious questions about whether he actually won
that state based off some stuff, but still seventeen points
and barely ekes out a win by I don't even
think it was a full point. And they were attempting
to do the same thing this year, Lisa, this is
the thing that frustrated me a little bit with some
on the right and conservatives starting to panic when they
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actually believe some of these rigged and manipulated polls. And
I've been highlighting over the last few weeks registered voter
polls are trash. They mean nothing, garbage, Their garbage coming
down the home stretches the likely voter polls, and the
likely voter polls have typically always shown Republicans winning the
generic by anywhere from to three upwards of six points,
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And now what you're seeing is even these registered voter
polls are showing Republicans up five six points. So you know,
I just moving forward, and again, I'm extremely optimistic about
pickups in the House. I think we're gonna take the Senates.
I think we're gonna have a thirty twenty, if not greater,
Republican gubernatorial split. I think we're gonna pick up state
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legislative seats, secretary of state, attorney generals. I think it's
going to be pretty definitive. But in the future, Republicans
and Conservatives need to look at polls with a very
skeptical eye and ask themselves are these properly weighted? Are
these registered voter versus likely voter? And don't fall for
these games again, because the corporate propagandists are driving a
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certain narrative and in many ways trying to suppress the
vote by really trying to say, well, it's you know,
you don't have as good a chance of winning this election,
You're not going to have a definitive a win. Just
ignore them. It's not the truth. Well, and that's what
it is. It's to suppress the vote and also donors
as well. Ned. I mean that's that We've seen Mitch
McConnell pull out of Arizona, a race where Blake Masters
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is going to win, and he pulled out. He canceled
almost ten million dollars in television ads. Uh, closer to
eighteen million actually by the time it's all said and done,
which is a crying shame. Which to make matters even worse, Lisa,
he's dropped I believe, seven million into the Alaska race,
which is essentially two Republicans running against each other. It's
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just he wants Murkowski to win, who I think is
a complete and utter disaster. But but to highlight how
bad it is, again pulls out eighteen million dollars worth
of ads from Arizona on behalf of Blake Masters. Quite frankly, Lisa,
of because he's made it known he hates Blake and
has spent seven million in a race that a Republican
is going to win. Regardless. It's absolutely insane. But but
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I would you know, since we're talking about Mitch McConnell,
I would remind people Mitch is far more concerned with
twenty six votes than he is with fifty one, And
by that I mean he wants to have control of
the Senate GOP Caucus no matter what happens on November eight.
And it's a shame because I would hope that he
would have a much bigger, larger view of what's actually
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taking place in this country. But he can't get past himself.
Do you think he will be in a leadership position
when Republicans take back the edit? Or is this time up?
If I'm being completely honest, I sincerely hope his time
is up. But but I've been involved in leadership election,
but that was in the House for ten years. First
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of all, you've got to get a horse to ride, right.
It's one thing to say we despise Mitch McConnell, and
I'll be the first to tell you I loathe and
despise miss McConnell, But in you have a horse to
ride in that majority leader race, it's you're basically, for
all intents and purposes, howling at the moment. My hope
is that Rick Scott will step up. And Rick Scott
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out of Florida is the NRSC, the nash Republican Senatorial
Committee Chair this year, I think Republicans are probably gonna
got seven, but even six, and if he has a
really successful cycle, I think Rick Scott has the ability
to stand up and say I can be I'm a
legitimate option as majority leader to Mitch McConnell. But but
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the real question is will he actually stand up and
throws happening ring? Yeah. I mean they've they've been fighting
a little bit publicly, so maybe I don't I want
to say. I mean, you know, as Mitch McConnell has
been really truly bagging on Blake masters, what's probably not
as well known as that, Rick Scott went out of
his way to help outside entities raise money to kind
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of fill the gap uh in some of the outside
spending in Arizona on the half of Blake. So Rick
is committed uh to these races and actually making sure
Republicans get the majority, which I would argue I'm not
fully convinced Mitch mcconnelly's well. And what's important is, you know,
Mitch McConnell just doesn't fit in with today's Republican party.
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It has left him behind. He's a he's a relic.
He is part of the past and the party's changing. No,
I mean he's he's a complete relic of the Republican
Party that no longer exists. That he's far more concerned.
He's very myopic on what goes on. He wants to
be in charge of the GOP Caucus, inside of the U. S. Senate,
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everything else, in my my estimation having observed him, his details.
But the thing that concerns me, Lisa is we all
know that if Mitch McConnell is not leader, and nobody
else steps up, you're stuck with a John Cornan or
a John Thune, who I would argue, aren't a whole
lot better, maybe even worse than Mitch McConnell. I think
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John Corner would be worst because at least Mitch McConnell
doesn't believe in today's Republican Party, but he at least
can fight, whereas John Cornan, as we saw, sell us
out with this an amendment. Yeah, so I agree, I
don't trust. I think he's a nice guy, but he's
just not right. And that's the point is we've seen,
you know, you've been witnessed, you've been part of it,
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this massive realignment in American politics or the Republican Party
is now the party of the working class, you know,
the leftists, the coastal elite. What do you think this
election means for that continued evolution of the parties in
realignment I have. This has been one of my arguments,
you know, coming into obviously in the primaries, which so
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s Lisa, when I do American Majority trainings, which is
an entity I started roun. I always remind people a
couple of things. Politics is policy, but a party is
what people say it is. And the people who say
what it is are those that show up and win
in primaries and show but conventions. And I think this
thing Donald Trump did this year, which I wholeheartedly applauded,
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is that he went into primaries and made sure that
he endorsed the strongest America First candidate and heavily contested
races to make sure that candidate won. And so if
America First candidates are winning Republican primaries, you begin to
change the complexion of the Republican Party. It will still
say Republican on the storefront, but the essence will completely change.
And I think you started to really see something change
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this year, in which obviously Donald Trump was the beginning
of it. But he's continued in in which the Republican
Party's essence is is truly changing to more of America First.
It's not gonna happen just because of one election, though
I would remind people this will take multiple elections, multiple primaries,
but even more so, and I've told Trump this, it's
one thing for America First candidates to win primaries. Now
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you've got to seal the deal. They've got to win
the general. And when they win the general, then they
become the standard bears for the Republican Party as America
First candidates quick commercial break more than ned Ryan Well.
And of course we were told that they weren't going
to win the general election. But now Carry Lake looks dynamite.
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In Arizona, Blake Masters looks like he's gonna he's gonna
pull it off. Oz looks like he's going to pull
it off. I talked to my former boss we just
had on, Chris Wilson of w p A Intelligence. He
thinks Masterrano is going to pull it off. In Pennsylvania's
you've got a lot of these guys. The media said, Hey,
bad Or J. D Vance is looking really good. He's
gonna win Ohio and so you have all these candidates
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to the media, was like, Oh, they're too far to
the right, they're not gonna win. They look like they're
gonna win. Then yeah, And I would also remind people,
you know, we've been focused a lot on the federal races.
Obviously it's hugely important House and Senate. The goubernort Toil races,
to me are really fascinating. Lisa, you mentioned carry Lake.
I do think she's going to win. You know, in Arizona,
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the dynamic is I think we could sweep all the statewides,
not only the goodnatorial but Secretary State Attorney General sleep
Blake in the Senate. I think we could pick up
three state House seats and three state Senate seats in Arizona.
But then you moved to Nevada, you moved to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
These are some really key battleground states for the presidential
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and a lot of these states, like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
you have Republican majorities in the state legislature. What you've
been lacking is a Republican governors who actually signed into
law election reform. For example, in Michigan, Wittmer Vito thirty
nine election integrity bills just this last year. If you
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had a Tutor Dixon winning and you pass those thirty
nine election bills, I think you're going to clean up
a lot of the questions that we have post well.
And also like maybe let's just try to get the
elections done night of you know, so people can actually
have faith in what's going on. This to me is
an utter shame that the American election system is so
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wildly dysfunctional that we have done things, We are doing
things in this country that many countries and other parts
of the world left behind long ago. I continue to
remind people France in nineteen seventy five banned mail in ballots,
why because of the massive amount of fraud that was
taking place with mail in ballots. Most of the world
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does not use electronic voting machines. I mean, there's a
lot of different things that we should be doing. The
thing that I love about Florida, where I know you're
at Leasta, are their election laws in which they start
counting if I'm if I remember correctly, all mail in
ballots three days before election day and then on election
day are counting election day votes, so that the third
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largest state in the Union can actually announce the results
by call it ten or eleven o'clock on election day.
That's how every state should be doing it. Start counting
your mail in ballots three days before so that by
late on election day you can actually announced results. However,
we all know the Left doesn't want to do that.
They want to have upwards of ten days after election
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day to make sure they get enough votes to get
the results they want. Well, and to your point, I mean,
what's going on in your state, your governor, secretary, state
of change. That's probably way more important than these federal elections,
to be honest. One, to your point, to prevent the
tom foolery that we saw in elections, but also just
to stand up to this over aggressive federal government that
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just continues to grow and corporations, to actually make federalism
a real thing again. Yeah, how about that? That is
actually a real part of what the founders envisioned for
our constitutional republic that all powers not granted and they
were very limited powers granted to the national government were
to be given to the state government. And all we've
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been doing over the last hundred years has been consolidating
power into d C but you need guys like Ron
De Santis and others who are gonna say, Nope, that's
not your right to do that. We're not going to
give you that power. In fact, we're going to clause
that power back. But I love it even more, Lisa.
I mean, just even with this ridiculous c d C,
all the kids are going to get as part of
their school immunization schedule, the COVID, which isn't really even
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a vaccine by the way, the COVID vaccine shot. I
mean the fact that every I think every Republican governor
needs to make it very clear, if they haven't already,
we will not let this happen inside of our state.
And that's another way to stand up and say no,
we're not going to let d C or these I
think corrupt institutions dictate to us. It's not your right,
(17:28):
it's all right, and we're not gonna let it happen.
But it also seems like Republicans are growing a spy.
You know, obviously I'm a huge fan of my governor,
Governor De Santis here one you know what or Secretary
of Health did by or the surgeon general here putting
out a study actually looking at the vaccine saying you
know what, actually there's a lot of real concerns for
young men and what it does to their heart and cardia.
(17:49):
But just really standing up to the media, standing up
for what is right, standing up for freedom, and it's worked.
I mean, he probably could win by double digits here
in Florida, which would be heard of, so you can
have a spine and still went over the middle, went
over the middle well. And I think the other thing too,
that's going to play into this year. I do think
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the Santists is going to win by double digits. I
think it's going to remove Florida from battleground status for
I don't think Democrats are going to be able to
consider Florida a battleground state, not only because of what
Ron will do this year in a couple of weeks,
but now he's put a lot of time and effort
into boosting Republican registration. I now I think instead of
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being down whatever it was a hundred and fifty or
whatever it was in two or something like that, there's
been a massive switch like that was even like a
month ago, I haven't or there like a couple of
weeks ago or something. So it's got to be. I'd
have to check in with my friends over there, but
uh yeah, it's significant to your point. But think about
the fact that Trump won Florida by three and a
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half points in when when Democrats held a six figure
advantage in registration. So this all leads into I just
don't think Florida is going to be a battleground states,
which frees up our resources to play in other states.
Do you worry about any of these libertarian candidates on
the ballot and some of these critical races, I think
like Arizona has one, Georgia, you know, will they be spoilers?
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My concern is there is the potential maybe in some
of these statewides that are close, for them to be
potential spoilers. I have to tell you, you you know, it's
not one of the things I've really hammered on, but
it is a complete and utter failure by the RNC
to have not made sure that there's a Green Party
candidate on the ballot and a lot of these states,
And knowing how the R and T used to operate
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back in the day, I can tell you they put
a time, a lot of time and money and resources
into actually making sure that a Green Party candidate made
the ballot, and if you look now, I would argue
in most states there's there's not a Green Party candidates
on the ballot, which is a shame. And we all
know that the Libertarians will for the most part, not always,
but for the most part takeaway Republican votes. So I
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would blame the r and C for not doing what
they should have done, um, you know, coming into which
is also frustrating because you know, you look at what
happened heading into and they weren't really prepared for any
of that either. So it's like, what are you guys
doing over there? You know? I mean, I've got I
know people over there who do go work, but it's
just like, come on, you know, we need you know,
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you and I both have serious questions about how some
of the resources are being used or not used at
the r and C. But uh, you know, hopefully those
things will change as we move forward and and maybe
just maybe, you know, the RNC will be run by
a true America first person um in the next Republican administration. Well,
and also I think people we all need to be
(20:43):
paying as much attention to this stuff as we possibly can,
because we We've seen what has taken place in this
country over the past two years. I mean, they are
hell bent on destroying this country, burning it to the ground,
and throwing us all in jail. So it's like it's
a little bit more important, you know that we are
to talk about tax cuts or medicare or whatever else,
like this is really important. Yeah. No, this is the
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one thing that I you know, I see the Mike
Pences of the world out there, and I'm thinking, you
live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. I think
he's stuck in two thousand six. And that's probably being generous.
It feels like he's running on nighties zombie Reaganism, Like, bro,
(21:27):
this world doesn't exist anymore, that party doesn't exist. We
want people that will actually stand up inside of the
Republican Party. And first of all, Lisa, reject the premise.
I think that's one of the things that more Republicans
have to do, whether it's dealing with the corporate propagandists,
whether it's dealing with maybe the CDC or all these No,
you know what, I reject your premise. And until you
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prove without a doubt that somehow what you're saying to
me is the truth. I don't believe you. Uh and
and even more so, if you're gonna come at me,
I'm gonna go right back at you. And that's why
you know Donald Trump run to Santa's, Blake Masters, JD,
all these people that are coming and rising up through
the America First Movement, It's about time we had more
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of this, and hopefully we're going to see a lot
more of it moving forward. Well, I'm glad you said
that because I actually had a question I wanted to
ask you in regard to that. And then, uh so
Tucker last night did a segment about carry Lake, uh
talking about how awesome she is because she is, but
talking about how you know, she's really good at just
dismissing these false premises. Trump was amazing at it to
(22:30):
Santa's is really good. He you know, he's been incredibly
successful doing the same thing as well. Do you think
have have we been able to de legitimate delegitimize legacy
media with us? I think that approached sinuing the trends.
I mean, if you saw that, I think it's even
The Washington Post was asked asked the question, I don't
(22:52):
think they expected this answer. What do you think is
the greatest threat to democracy, and I think fifteen nine percent,
if I'm remembering erectly said, the greatest threat to our
democracy is is basically an illegitimate corporate media. So I
think the American people are starting to realize more and mora,
although I don't think. First of all, let me be
very clear, the corporate propagandists still have undue influence in
(23:16):
so many different ways. Although I'm really starting to see
the trends over the last six years of their own volition,
from their own behavior, they are delegitimizing theirselves. And then
what Donald Trump and carry Lake and Rhonda Santis and
others have been doing is just highlighting and pointing it
out to the American people, to show the lies, to
(23:37):
show the fake news, to show the false narratives that
a lot of the corporate propagandists want to push. Because
I don't think, Lisa, they have most of them do
not have any desire and actually talking about the truth
and actually talking about facts. They're out there to drive
and amplify a narrative that they find beneficial for themselves
and their allies and the Democratic Party. Well, of course
they're They're all liars, right, they slant or they smear,
(24:00):
they lie, you know, they're all You've dealt with them.
I've dealt with them. I have noticed, and I think
this is an end result of having what I call
indoctrination centers of higher learning, in which a lot of
those that have come out of you know, the university
and college system have been taught what to think, not
(24:21):
how to think. Critical plane isn't In short, supply, I
would argue, and again this might sound harsh, but I'm
gonna say it anyway, I would argue that the average
i Q for the corporate propagandas has dropped considerably over
the last few years. Well, you're right, they don't critically
think anymore at all. Like even on vaccines, they're just like,
(24:42):
go out and get it. And I'm like, there's just
no questions about, Oh, maybe we should have questions about
why M or and A vaccines have been to the
market like this before. Maybe we should raise the point
that most vaccines have five to ten years like just
no no questions, just go out and get it. And
if you don't get it, you're an anti vaxxer and
you're evil and you want to kill Grandma or even
or even more so, you know what the Steel dossier
(25:04):
reads like basically the National Enquirer. Maybe maybe it's not true.
Maybe we should actually ask questions, where did this come from?
Is it legitimate? Does any of this actually make sense?
Or is this just some basically fake dossier filled with
sensational information that's meant to try and take down the
duly elect the President United States. And not only were
(25:24):
some not asking the question, I think many probably did
realized it was fake and continue to push it and
hope they take out Donald Trump. Well, and it matters
and and one. And what they did to to Donald
I mean, they robbed him of a lot of opportunities,
and he still was able to be really successful. But
you know that does take a lot out of you
if you're pushing back and having to spend all this
(25:46):
time on that. Yeah. No, I remind people, for four years,
even for longer than four years before he was even
sworn in, Donald Trump was under NonStop, relentless attack meant
to really take him out. What he was able to
accomplish in those four years, though, is nothing short of incredible.
(26:06):
Knowing the real dynamics of what he was having to
deal with on a day to day basis. So just
you know, absolutely incredibly what he was able to accomplish.
I have to tell you, if if he had not
been under attack, if obviously this whole COVID lockdown ridiculousness
hadn't happened, if the corporate propagandist hadn't gone at him
as strongly as they did, I think you would have
(26:28):
won re election Handling. I think we'd be in a
much much different, much better place as the country. Absolutely,
I mean we they basically try to burn down the country.
I mean it really is if who knows how many
illegal immigrants have entered this nation since the beginning. But
you know what's really said to me too, as you
see the media lie on just really important things like
one cheerleading us into a war with Russia or secondly
(26:52):
telling us that there's no big deal if you change
a child's gender, which obviously can't happen you are what
God made you. Or you know, there's no ramifications of
cutting a little boy's pianist off, or giving a little
girl a double homosectomy, or giving kids puberty blockers which
is irreversible, Like just no critical thinking with that or
just taking a moment and being like, what are we
(27:14):
doing to an entire generation of kids? I I I think, well,
first of all, I've called the transgender movement Luciferian, in
which it is people standing up and saying, I shall
be like God. I will turn a boy into a
girl and a girl into a boy. I will be
as God and do as I please. It's very Luciferian
(27:35):
and it's it's approach. But I will say this, I
think that it is causing a massive backlash. So in
Virginia last year, obviously Glenn Uncan wins in a state
that Joe Biden, by the way, one by ten points.
The year before, Glenn Yuncan wins by two twelve point swing.
A lot of that started at the school board level,
(27:56):
the parents revolt against some of the transgenderism, the critical
race theory, some of the awful, awful books that are
being put into school curriculum. The interesting thing I've seen
Li said, So, not only do I think that influence
how Virginia went last year, I think we might be
seeing some of this stuff happening in other places, like,
for example, Michigan in Dearborn, Michigan. In the last couple
(28:19):
of weeks, Muslims and Christians have united to go after
local school boards over their woke curriculum, and I think
that could influence the gubernatorial race up there and help
Tutor Dixon, and I would remind people, dearborn Michigan is
sev Democrat, So this isn't about parties. This is about
concerned parents, whether they're Democrats, independent, Republicans of all faith,
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all creeds, saying we're not going to allow you to
push this truly demented and sick worldview onto our children.
We're gonna push back. And I think Republicans are absolutely
right and should be doing more of its standing up
and saying we will be working on your behalf. We
will defend your rights as parents to decide what is
being taught schools. And the more Republicans do that, the
(29:05):
more victories they're going to see. Well, at that point,
Chris Wilson, who had interviewed with w p A Intelligence
the poster there, he said that the biggest movement they've
seen has been with independent women for the very reasons
that you just laid out. And I think we could
see some really interesting things on No. EM eight with
voters that like typically would be like, I can't deal
(29:27):
with the Republican Party, who are like, all right, I'm
just gonna you know, we're going to go for this
this time considering the alternative. Yeah, I totally agree. I
think this is how you went back suburban moms, especially
on the transgender issue. I can tell you you know
where I'm out in Western Loudon County, Virginia. You know,
there are a lot of parents that spent a lot
of time and money and effort on their daughter's athletic careers,
(29:50):
and I think a lot of them have started to realize,
wait a minute, if this transgender movement continues to accelerate,
my daughter has absolutely no letic future. So I think
I think it's been kind of a startling wake up
call in which they realize, if I truly care about
my daughter in her future, I've got to find somebody
that's actually going to help me fight against this transgender
(30:12):
movement and push back. Well, it's not the Democratic Party,
I'll tell you that much there are. They have bought
in their wholesale for it. It's the Republican Party that's
standing up and saying, hey, we're not gonna let let
this happen. And that's why I think you can win
back a lot of suburban families by standing up on
the transgender issue. Yeah. I mean, I played phild hockey
and lacrosse in high school in Virginia, and my parents
would be up in arms if if because it's just
(30:35):
totally unfairly like. But but like you said, probably would
disagree with Republicans on at least half of the issues,
maybe probably even more, especially up here in western Lavan County.
But on this issue, it's kind of like, what's what's
more important my daughter's future or whatever other issue, and
they're gonna say it's my daughter's future. That's why I
think even though it might be you know, disagreement on
(30:56):
the majority of issues, they're gonna probably back Republicans on
this issue along. So I mean, I was telling Donald
Trump in this is a great wedge issue in the
suburban areas. Wish he had played it up a little
bit more. But I think Glenn Yuncan and others have
really fully understood Yeah we should actually because of what
we're normal saying human beings for starters, But there's a
real opportunity here just to simply stand up and say
(31:18):
we're not gonna let this happen quick break more with ned.
It was just so interesting too, because we saw people
take COVID lying down not you know, not everyone right
like there were you know, we were fighting it and
calling attention to all the lies that we were being told.
But a lot of people really just took it. They accepted, Okay,
(31:40):
I can't I gotta close my business or and I
you know, and I didn't get it, but like or
I have to stay home, or I have to wear
a mask or have to do this or that. And
then it was like the second they started realizing their
kids were being negatively impacted, that was when people started
making some noise, you know, absolutely right. I remember this
(32:00):
was probably March. I didn't to be honestly, so I
didn't mind the first two weeks because again a lot
of us are like, what's going on? Is this you know,
the second coming of the Black Death, you know, the
Black Plague. After two weeks, though, I mean, I really
made this is how I came to the conclusion this
is nowhere near what I think it is, what people
think it is. I made the argument of somebody who
was texting me, who probably people would recognize the name.
(32:23):
Very conservative said what's up with all your boomer tweets
on COVID, and I responded to him and said, you know,
I have come to the conclusion that as the d
o J and the FBI had become heavily politicized and
heavily weaponized, I believe that the CDC and the n
i H, who are all part of the same administrative state,
have also become heavily politicized and heavy weaponized, heavily weaponized.
(32:44):
And I reject the premise. I don't think that they
are actually really First of all, I don't think they
know what they're doing. And second of all, I don't
trust them. And quite frankly, that was March of and
I think everything else has been We've been proven right
those of us that were standing up early he said,
we don't believe you. We reject the premise. You know,
I think it's horrifying. I mean, as you were alluding
to earlier, the Florida Surgeon General saying between what eighteen
(33:07):
and thirty five for young men increases massively and staggering, staggering,
and now fives are coming out and saying, yeah that
that shot really doesn't stop transmission. I mean, it's horrifying
the social experiment that took place of the last two
and a half years. And I wish more people had
stood up and said, now, I'm a free born American,
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I don't believe you, so no, I'm not going to
submit to this. Well, it's really twisted, as they originally
at the very very beginning said they didn't test for
stopping transmission, and that wasn't really the consideration, and then
along the way they changed their tune. And I don't
I personally think it's because they realized that young and
healthy people would not get it unless they could shame
them into thinking of some sort of public good that
(33:52):
they were doing. Yeah, absolutely insane. It almost felt like
a dry run of something like, how how much, how many,
how what center to the population can we just get
to submit to this, even though we really haven't given
him a whole lot of justification for doing this. Then,
I have to tell you a little disturbing how much
of American society was like, oh, that's great, Yeah, let's
(34:13):
just lock down, let's damage our kids future, let's destroy
small businesses, let's put ourselves into an economic situation. All
of this that took place in America's like, yeah, it's fine, sure,
we believe you. Like again goes back to whatever happened
to critical thinking, like you know what, I'm gonna look
at these facts. I'm gonna look at these statistics. I'm
(34:33):
gonna have a conversation and use common sense. And then
when you go through that process, you like, yeah, no,
I don't believe you. Oh my god that I saw
this video on Twitter. I don't remember who posted it,
who did it, but it's this guy in a mask.
It looked like they're in New York and people are
entering a building and he has a lit roller and
he and all these people walk up. If people haven't
(34:55):
seen the video, so he's like basically pretending like he's
security at the door entrance. The people come up, he
gets them to open their arms and he lit rolls
them and then he lets them walk and nobody asks
a question that to me was like didn't you think
it was kind of weird that somebody standing at the
front door lent rolling you and nobody based off that
(35:15):
video even bother to ask what are you doing? Why
are you doing this to me? And like what what
role of authority do you have that gives you the
right to actually do this. Nobody asked a question, they
just submitted to it. This is we kind of created
a We really have created a society of zombie sheep
that they're just kind of going through the motions and
it goes, it goes back to this hole. And again,
(35:37):
this is a longer topic, we won't have to delve
too much into it. But we really have allowed our
public education system to become indoctrination centers where it's you're
taught what to think, not how to think, and you
have to just just accept what you're being taught, but
you're not really learning how to think critically on any level.
And so it creates a zombie sheet mentality of well,
(35:59):
this is a this is an authority, this is an
educated elite, this is somebody who's an expert, and if
they whatever they say must be true. So I could
completely shut off my mind. I do not even think
about and examine what they've said. I just accepted because
I've been told the experts are the oracles, they will
tell us the truth, They're only there for our good, etcetera, etcetera,
(36:20):
which is nothing but a lie. I wonder how much
social media has played into all of that because I
believe it's the public shame that people have. I think
with social media, becomes so accustomed to winning likes and
to wanting to be accepted by like the larger population
in a way that you didn't before because you had
smaller sort of communities and you know, you're exposed to
(36:41):
a smaller group of people, and so I think it's
sort of created this like social contagion. Everyone's afraid of
being shamed or called names. I have to be like
everyone else in a way that maybe we didn't have
before in society. I would agree. I mean, first of all,
I think it be better if most American people were
(37:02):
simply unafraid of whatever they were being called. I've been
called everything in the book. I mean, I've been called
a racist, which is not even close to being the truth.
But don't be afraid of what you're gonna be called.
Speak to truth. So that's an important step. But on
on big tech, I gotta tell you, I mean, I
I love Twitter. Don't get me wrong, I'm kind of
addicted to it. If if you guys follow me on Twitter,
I'm on Twitter way too much. It's not really a
(37:25):
positive thing for our society that Twitter and Facebook and
Instagram and TikTok and snap and all these other things
have such a large role in our society and it's troubling, Lisa.
And this is why I've I've argued for years we
need to break the monopolies up. I mean, if you
if you believe in a free market mentality in which
(37:45):
competition leads to the best products for individual people, you
can't have that when monopolies dominate the marketplace like Google,
like Amazon, like Apple even We've got to the thing
that Republicans need to do moving full award is take
a strong stance on on big tech and say we're
not gonna We're not gonna let you continue in your
(38:05):
current state, because I do think that they are an
existential threat to the future of the Republic for so
many different reasons. And I think it's only above break
up the monopolies, remove Section to thirty exemptions, all of
these things. But if we allow big tech to remain
as it is now and continue on the trajectory that
it is, uh, it will not end well. I totally
(38:26):
agree that I could talk to you forever. Unfortunately, have
a flight to New York's. But we're only criminals are
allowed to have guns, so is there? Yeah? This has
been so much fun, really smart conversation as always you
always are ever every time I see you on it
and talk to you. So I appreciate you joining. Anything
else you want to leave us with before we go? Uh,
(38:49):
you know what? You can follow me on Twitter, folks,
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We train people state in local POULI how to win
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dot org. Gosh what else? You can check on my
books at Amazon Restoring Our Republic and the Adversaries. And
(39:12):
I've got a new book coming out Lisa soon. It's
called American Leviathan The Growth of the Administrative State and
Rise of Progressive Authoritarianism. Awesome, I love it. Congrats my friend.
Thanks so much for coming on. It was great to
catch up. Thanks Lisa, Okay, I have a great day
you too. Than Brian, founder and CEO of American Majority,
(39:43):
he was great. I wish I could keep talking to him,
but I literally have to get to go get a
flight to catch my flight to New York for Fox. Uh.
I want to thank Drew Steele for stepping in for
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