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December 29, 2022 50 mins

Dr. Peter McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and the Chief Scientific Officer of The Wellness Company. He is one of the most published cardiologists in America. Dr. McCullough has also been an outspoken critic of our government’s response to treating COVID, which briefly got him banned from Twitter. He’s also been warning Americans about the dangers of the COVID vaccines. So how dangerous are they, and what do they do to your heart? Dr. McCullough joins Lisa to bring you the truth. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We spent a lot of time talking on this podcast
about this bizarro world that we live in where the
irrational seems to supersede the rational. And one of those
big moments, and one of the most glaring examples of that,
is throughout COVID, where we have discarded things like natural immunity,

(00:20):
where we have ignored vaccine injury, vaccine death. Where we
have listened and continue to listen as a society to
people like Dr Fauci, who has gotten everything wrong, and
not only has he gotten everything wrong, but has invested
interest in covering up the truth when it comes to
where COVID originated because of the n i h S
work and funding of gain a function at the Uhan

(00:43):
Institute of Virology. So we're very fortunate to have leaders
in this country, to have doctor scientists who have spoken out,
who have been fearless in speaking out. We've had a
lot of those individuals on this podcast, people like Dr Atlas,
people like Dr j Battaria, people like Dr Martin colder If,
people like Dr Pierre Corey. The list goes on. Of

(01:03):
the people we've had on the Dr Harvey Rish, the
list goes on, and the people we've had on this
podcast who have been brave and bold Doctor Joseph Latipo recently,
and I'm going to add Dr Peter McCullough to that
list as well. He is one of the most published
cardiologists in America with over one thousand publications and six
hundred citations and the National Library of Medicine. He's an internist,

(01:26):
a cardiologist, and epidemiologist as well. Uh and he was
also one of the pioneers in leading the country at
the outset of the pandemic with dozens of peer reviewed
publications on the infection, also talking about protocols in ways
that we could respond to COVID early on. This doesn't
always make you a popular person. He was banned from

(01:47):
Twitter for a period of time. Again, we've had these
conversations on here about how there's not been a consensus
about COVID, that the science has not been settled, but
they've tried to manufacture one. They've tried to force this
consensus through censorship, through attacking people who speak out, revoking
medical licenses from people who speak out. So we're going

(02:10):
to get into all of this with Dr Peter mccaull
to talk about what exactly is m R and A.
What is it due to the heart? As a cardiologist?
What is he saying? What are the dangerous of the vaccine?
What do you need to know? And how do we
arrive at this place of insanity, particularly when we have
had so many people who are esteemed, such as Dr
Peter mccaulla, who have warned us, who have told us

(02:32):
the truth, who have tried to bring rational conversations to
the country in an age of irrational behavior and irrational
thought process. And also, why is our government so dead
set on getting vaccines in the arms of so many Americans?
What's the why behind that? So much to talk to
you with Dr Peter mccaull who has been fearless and

(02:53):
all of this. I hope you enjoyed this conversation. So
Dr Peter McCullough, thanks so much for joining the show. Sir,

(03:14):
I really appreciate your voice throughout COVID. I know it's
not been easy, but we have needed people like you,
so I appreciate everything you've done to to speak up
and tell people the truth. So thank you. Thanks for
having me on the show. You know, Dr you're one
of the most published cardiologists in America, with over a
thousand publications and six centered citations in the natural the

(03:35):
National Library of Medicine. Why are so many people ignoring
concerns regarding the MR and A vaccines? The vaccine program
has been unprecedented in terms of flows of money. The
COVID nineteen Community Cores is a program from the White

(03:56):
House and the Department of Health and Human Services. In
one on their website, over thirteen billion dollars flowed two
doctor organizations, to churches, to media and Hollywood, to Black
and Hispanic groups, to the National Football League, and that

(04:17):
money flowed with talking points, and the talking points were
to support these vaccines. Visor Maderna hired Webber Shandwick, one
of the most prominent PR marketing firms in the United States,
and they initiated a plan called Planned v X, which

(04:38):
was to get their marketing people inside Corporate America to
push these vaccines, to push vaccine mandates. Webber Shamwick had
an embedded unit in the CDC to actually promote Visor
and Maderna to the CDC, and the CDC paid Webber Shandwick.
The corruption is wide open right now. Money is flowing

(04:59):
and it's all for the promotion of these vaccines. That's
how this has gotten off the rails. So hearing that
and just looking at health more broadly, how much of
what we are told is actually true? You know, in
terms of the vaccines, everyone knows that every medicinal product
has risks and benefits. Every product does. There's no perfect medicine.

(05:22):
There's no perfect vaccine. So when we see an advertisement
for a medicine on TV, let's take Humora, that's actually
the leading sales drug in the United States. Humor is
used for psoriasis and a whole variety of autoimmune conditions.
There's always the benefits given in the TV commercial, and
then there's the risks like contracting tuberculosis, having other problems.

(05:46):
There's always disclaimers. So in America sees advertisements on TV
by the CDC by Visor Maderna that's say, the COVID
nineteens are safe and effective and just take one. The
Americans know that's egal advertising that that cannot occur in
our country because the vaccines must be presented in terms

(06:09):
of their theoretical benefits and the risks that we're seeing,
and when it's safe and effective. As a talking government
talking point, that violates the truth in Advertising Act, the
US Drug and Cosmetic Act, and the Landman Act, even
up to the President United States. The President United States
has violated drug promotion law well. And of course we

(06:29):
know that it's been a forced consensus, as you sort
of laid out before, with the money flowing in the
direction of being pro you know, COVID vaccines. We also
know that people have been silenced. You've been silenced, shut down,
shut out of Twitter for a period of time. People
have lost their medical licenses as well for speaking up
and speaking out. So you know, it's not even a
real consensus, it's it's a manufactured consensus, forced consensus. There

(06:54):
hasn't been any dialogue. You know. I've testified in the
US Senate multiple times, most recently on December seven, and
I co moderated the session we have. We read the
invitation list of who was invited to come to this
session in this Kenny Coccus room we're in the Russell Building,
and then included Anthony Fauci and Michelle Lewinsky and our

(07:16):
Surgeon General Murphy, our White House Corona Corona Task Force
Coordinator Jah They were all invited FDA Chairman Caleb they
were invited in a public servants, they have a duty
to attend and to learn from experts who are caring
for COVID nineteen patients, publishing their findings, who are leading

(07:41):
advancements in the field. And this has been multiple U S.
Senate sessions, and they refused to attend. So there is
no dialogue because those who are advancing the vaccine agenda
don't wish to engage in dialogue. Well, I remember when
Joe Biden took the stage at the CNN town hall,
I believe those in July of I want to say,

(08:01):
I don't remember. I think it was one I believe
saying that the vaccines would prevent you from getting COVID
when we had just all witnessed a bunch of the
Texas Democrats had come down to Washington, d C. They
were all allegedly vaccinated and it ended up being a
super spreader event. And then there was also my understanding
a July four study that the CDC had been looking

(08:23):
at out of Provincetown, Massachusetts, where of a cluster we're
all vaccinated individuals. So at this point when he took
the stage, at the point in September when he announced
vaccine mandates, they knew that vaccinated people were getting and
spreading COVID, yet they did it anyways, It's true. What
happened is there were false claims for the vaccine program.

(08:45):
The first false claim was that the vaccines prevent one
from actually getting COVID, and the CDC was collecting data
on those fully vaccinated who are being hospitalized and dying
of COVID. Thank and that's through the spring. By May one,
the CDC was overwhelmed with cases and they announced we
will no longer track this. They gave up. So the

(09:07):
first claim that the vaccines prevent COVID nineteen, that claim
went down. The second claim was that it prevented transmission.
So the president said this. All the late night tacosts
shows said that Rachel Maddow had a whole monologue on this.
Embarrassingly they said this, Uh so did uh every every

(09:30):
government officials said this. And when all these transmission events
occurred among fully vaccinated to fully vaccinated, it was clear.
They were published studies one by Chow Charion Rhymaristhma of Coursi.
They all showed that the vaccinator were loaded with virus
up in their nose when they presented for testing and
they easily passed it to other vaccinated unvaccinated people. So

(09:53):
Rachelle Lewinsky came out in the summer and said, hold
on here, the vaccines don't prevent transmission. Okay, So that
claim went down. There was only one final claim was
that the vaccines reduced the risk of hospitalization and death. Well,
the CDC was already overwhelmed with these failure cases called
breakthrough cases. Uh, and we've never had a prospective, animized,

(10:13):
double blind for simple controlled trial showing that the vaccines
reduce hospitalization and death as a primary secondary endpoint. So
so there's no evidence for these claims. And if one
looks at the consent form that you signed a take
a vaccine, there's only one benefit listed in the consent
form then that is the vaccines have been past tense

(10:34):
shown to reduce the risk of COVID period period. That's
past tense. That means with the very early original trials
with the ancestral hand stream, the vaccines did reduce some
cases of COVID. That's all gone away now since that
the virus is mutated and all the data has come out,
So there are no supportable claims of benefit now for

(10:54):
the COVID nineteen vaccines none. So where did these claims
originated from? Was it the vaccine many facturers? Was it
the White House or kind of you know who sort
of started some of these initial claims. The claims are
all from the Emergency Use Authorization mechanism, which is a
military mechanism. So when the vaccines were rolled out, it

(11:16):
was alex As r h HS and the Department of
Defense that rolls out the vaccines. Weiser and Maderna, Johnson
Johnson Astrosenica outside the States, no evacs um. They're essentially
defense their shields for defense contractors. So it's important for
people to understand. So, for instance, Maderna doesn't make its
own vaccine. It's made by a company called Biodefense, and

(11:38):
they are a defense contractor for their research division of
the military called ARPA, and they have a big plant
up in Mississauga. For Johnson Johnson Astrosena coach I had
no viral vaccines. They're made by Emergent BioSolutions outside of
m Baltimore, Maryland. So under the Emergency Use authorized contracts.
The disturbing thing is there are no affections for safety,

(12:02):
quality or purity of the vaccines as they get put
into the vials. None so fires Maderna Johnson Johnson, Astrozonk.
They don't even know what's in the vials. They're made
by defense contractors. All of this is in the open.
One can just make a few clicks. Everything I'm saying
is is easily identifiable on the Internet. The next reason
why the variation and lot to lots is thought to

(12:24):
be explaining why some people are injured and lose their
life with the vaccines and others are perfectly fine. It
probably has to do with the quantity of genetic material
messenger RNA that's in each trial. And for those at home,
what is mr and A and what does it due
to the body? Mr and A is a form of

(12:44):
genetic material is loaded on lipid nanoparticles. It's injected into
the arm. It's circulating in the body. Within an hour,
it distributes to the brain, the heart, of the adrenal
glands of reproductive organs. It gets sent all over the body.
Then the genetic code is taken up into cells in
those organs, and then the cells begin to produce the

(13:04):
spike protein. The spike protein is the spine on the
surface of the virus. It's the protein that's loaded with
all the lethal effects of the virus. It damages every
cell it touches, probably destroys it. It causes blood clotting,
causes heart damage, neurologic damage, causes autoimmunity. The spike protein

(13:25):
is probably the most dangerous protein we've ever seen in
human medicine. I think it's far more dangerous than staff
of coco toxin or tetanous toxin. So to have the
genetic code for this lethal protein and then injected in
individuals and have production of this potentially fatal protein for
an uncontrolled duration of time and an uncontrolled quantity is

(13:47):
the most reckless medical idea ever conceived. And I published
this in an op ed in The Hill in August
before the vaccines welled out, and I told lawmakers in
Washington that this the greatest gamble of of all time.
In fact, it has been so many people have died
within a few hours of taking this. They literally take

(14:08):
the shot and they die. To CDC as of December
nine admits to fifteen thousand, seven thirty two Americans that
have died, many just shortly after taking the shot. And
this is greatly underreported. In an FDA testimony over the
last two years, multiple experts, multiple epidemiologists. The underreporting factor

(14:29):
for that number is probably about thirty, meaning it's it's
thirty times fifteen thou So the number of Americans who
have lost their lives, by a reasonable estimate is four
hundred and fifty thousand people have died attributed to the vaccine.
Quick commercial break back with Dr. Peter mccaulla, Why do

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you think they lead with m R and A vaccines
as opposed to you know, traditional vaccines like the Johnson
and Johnson. Why MARNA because they had it already planned.
So DARPA, the the research unit of the military, announced
a program called the ADEPT P three program in and

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P three stands for a Pandemic Protection Preparedness Program and
it's on their website. You can look it up. DARPA
ADEPT P three and in they said they will use
Messenger r and A technology to end pandemics in sixty days.
So DARPA, the research Unit of the military, and then BARTA,
the research unit of the nih was already working with

(15:38):
Messenger RNA and they had a DARPA contractors and consultants
that were guiding them that this could be a new
genetic tool to be used in the military. Two, so
the military would be strengthened against biological threats. This is
all in the new era of biological weaponry, where one

(15:59):
adverse serry would have a biological weapon and on defense
one would have to come up with a solution with it.
So our military has been in this biological threat development
arena for quite some time, and they have programs for smallpox,
monkey pots, for um anthrax, for stars COVID two since

(16:20):
so this was ready to go. It wasn't started when
President Trump said Operation Warms, people are going to come
up with vaccines, and then three days later Maderna says,
we have a vaccine. That's not what happened. Maderna got
its first flow of money from the U. S. Government
to start working on this, but they hadn't previously had
one on the market like this. Correct in terms of

(16:41):
this wide scale mass produced in everyone's arms. They've been trying,
but no, they had tried development wise, there's never been
a commercialized product um for emergency use authorization. By the way,
you ay, that's always military. So this has never been
a mechanism to use on the public the anthex vaccines,

(17:02):
for instance, were used in the military. Same thing with smallpox,
but it's not a it's not a US commercial mechanism.
So this is the first time that a military program
was directed towards the general public and the companies. In
a sense, our marketing shields that money flows to fires
Maderna ferences, and then it flows right to these back

(17:23):
to these defense contractors who make the vaccine. I think
a lot of Americans don't understand the military nature of this,
and the military nature of this explains a lot because
that's the reason why the government has taken this stance.
That listen, we don't have to disclose any safety concerns.
We don't give any exemptions to everybody. Everybody has to

(17:43):
take it. You know, those are kind of military stances
to take, and they're not clinical months that we take
in practice. The doctor embraces the idea that everybody can
take the same product. Another interesting observation is that the
US government has never indicated which vaccine is better. You know,
there's no asing majourn at Johnson Johnson Novavax. There must

(18:07):
be a winner, there must be a loser. Governments and
employers they don't seem to care. They just say, take
a vaccine, take any vaccine, and none of that makes sense. Well,
I've refused to get it. You know, I'm thirty seven,
I'm I'm not young, but i'm young ish. You know,
I'm healthy. I don't. So I've not gotten it. I've
I've made it very public. I'm not getting it. Everywhe
a not bed in a column outlining uh, you know,

(18:29):
back in November of it was not well received. As
you can imagine, people don't like it. If if you
speak up against it, is there a difference between the
vaccines that were approved for emergency use authorization and then
the ones that were approved the full le FDA approval?
Because you were mentioning that, you know, we don't even
necessarily each batch could theoretically be different. So then how

(18:51):
do you you know, how does that approval process work?
What should people know about that? Did they do the
full testing that needs to be done? Considering this was
all done in such a short manner. You know, I
have been on I'm a frequent contrigar on Fox News
America sees me, you know, virtually every week or every
month on national TV, and I've said very clearly, very

(19:12):
early in the pandemic that no one under age fifty
should consider taking this vaccine because there's no assurances on
short or long term safety, and people under age fifty
by and large, COVID nineteen is like having a common cold,
so the risks are not uh, you know, outweigh by
theoretical benefits. So I've been very clear with America on

(19:34):
that and um as a doctor who treats COVID nineteen,
I've developed treatment protocols and one of the most published
people in COVID nineteen in the world. I have medical
authority to make that determination for the country and I
have and many people like you listened. So no, no
one under age fifty should be taking this vaccine. Now,
people over age fifty early on with medical problems considered

(19:56):
it and they'd have to weigh out the risks and benefits.
But now we've had so many analyzes pouring in that
they can't be considered safe for anyone, and so there
are calls to pull these off the market. They've been
strict warnings in the World Council for Health now for
two years now. June eleven two they simply said pull
them off the market. We concluded in the US Senate

(20:18):
on December seven, pull him off the market. Andrew bridget In,
a Member of Parliament in UK public statement, pull him
off the market. Same thing. Malcolm Roberts in Australia now
calls across India, so I believe you made the right
choice by not taking a vaccine. I didn't take it either.
I'm sixty, I'm fit and strong, I've already had COVID.

(20:39):
I would never consider taking a genetic injection in my body. Never.
None of these vaccines are fully FDA approved. In August,
both Fiser Maderna got biological Licensing agreement letters that said
you could get full FDA approval if you did the
right cardiac studies and had the right language in the

(21:00):
couch insert about dangerous and pregnancy into the fetus. And
the companies never did the studies, so they have not
garnered full FDA approval. And you know that because they're
still offered free by the government. When they get fully
FDA approved that they will be paid for by insurance
or people have to pay for a lot of pocket,
they'll have a full package insert, so people know that

(21:21):
they're not FDA approved. Right now, there's still government emergency
use authorized, not ready for prime time vaccines. That was
one of my concerns to is, you know, does it
impact fertility with the m R and A And you
know that I don't have kids yet I want them.
I'm already thirty seven, so I'm already testing the water.
So it's like, I don't really need to add anything
additionally that's gonna, you know, make that, you know, more difficult.

(21:45):
Do we know do we have an idea about what
it might do to fertility and to having children in
the future, or you're pregnant and you go out and
get the vaccine. What we know is that the Bow
distribution study done by Fiser for japan Japanese officials showed
the vaccines go to the mammalian ovaries, which is very disturbing.

(22:06):
So we've never had a vaccine that actually hits the ovaries.
And the ovaries have a set number of eggs. As
the genetic payload is downloaded into the female of variant
cells and the spike proteins expressed, I can tell you
almost invariably a woman who is going to lose eggs
by taking each vaccine shot. Now and men, there's two
good studies. One from Israel published in Andreology and the

(22:30):
other one published a Jama by the Chinese. Both studies
show that the vaccines and men drop sperm count and
drops sperm motility. Those are the two major measures. So
a man who's lower in the fertile range will be
rendered infertile by COVID nineteen vaccination for six months, and
then the man will rebound. The woman won't rebound because
the number of eggs are set. So based on these

(22:52):
observations I can tell you is that doctor almost certainly
fertility is reduced in couples who have taken the vaccine,
and with each successive shot there's probably even deeper levels
of infertility. Now there are data emerging across Europe bets
since the vaccines have been rolled out and forced on
the population, fertility is dropping across Europe like a rock.

(23:14):
And this has been published out. It's on multiple subjects,
it's online and the Courageous Discourse subjects you can see
the source of the data. But it's clear vaccines to
reduce human fertility. What's really crazy is uh and pretty
wild if you look over the course throughout COVID in
this pandemic, is we've really ignored the rational for the irrational.

(23:36):
Like to your point, you're talking about how early on
in COVID you're recommending treatments. Treatments were ignored. You know,
warnings about the vaccine that's been ignored. You know, questions
raised about masks not doing anything that was ignored. We
ignore natural immunity, which is pretty much been something that
we have understood and abided by for forever. So why

(23:57):
why do you think in this era we have ignored
the rational for the irrational. Every irrational move taken by
the government authorities, and this was worldwide, was for one purpose,
and that was to get a needle in every arm.
If you map every single one of those statements you've
just made, they all map two. Mass vaccination over and

(24:20):
over again in the world. Unfortunately, there's been a vaccine
only strategy from the very beginning. Our US government hasn't
said boo about early treatment. Early treatment developed rapidly. I
published one of the very first treatment protocols by you know,
by October of twenty October, we had a position association,

(24:43):
the Association of American Position Surgeons, had a full home
treatment guide. We had telemedicine networks prescribing medications for our patients,
individual doctors, clinics. We basically had provided an answer for America,
and we demonstrated by December multiple studies world wide that
we had clear and convincing the evidence that we were
on the right track. It means a p value less

(25:05):
than point oh one that early treatment dramatically reduced the
risk of hospitalization and depth. Later on, they were surveysed
on one by Verdkirk and colleagues showing the only people
in United States hospitalized and died of COVID nineteen where
those who were denied early treatment. So it was always
about early treatment for high risk individuals. Low risk individuals
really don't need any prescription treatment, and that's what this

(25:28):
whole pandemic was about. It was about treating patients. Our
government impeded treatment time after time. They impeded and then
blocked the use of hydroxy corquin, impeded, then blocked and
use of ib mactin, impeded nasal sprays, general virusoidal and
nasal space delupe pavadon id, hydrogen peroxide. Every single manufacture

(25:50):
of a nasal spray got tangled up by the FDA
and FTC and had block development efforts lawsuits. Our government
blocked monoclonal ampis. He kept taking off the market when
they were safe and effective and useful. All the way through.
Our government never featured proven medicines in randomized trials like Budescinite,

(26:11):
Culture Scene and others. It just kept going and going.
The only thing our government did the entire time was
promote fear suffering, hospitalization and death and then massively financially
promote the vaccines and needle in every arm. That's what happened.
And then also redefined things as well. I mean, the
CDC redefined the definition of vaccine because we know that

(26:32):
these do not provide immunity in the traditional sense, and
you know MMR or polio they confer immunity, these do not.
So also just redefining things that we have known to
be true as well. Every rule was changed now for
these vaccines. Every rule. Um. You know, there's an ethical

(26:53):
code called the Nuremberg Code, which states we tried to
learn from Nazi German and research that we would never
provide a pressure of coercion or threat of reprisal for
someone to take something new and experimental. It's purely up
to their own judgment within a few months. Our government's
just trampled over the Nuremberg Code and told government employees, contractors,

(27:15):
and militaries they had to take this. We trampled over
human rights like we've never seen before. And this happened
over just a few months. And so everything was oriented
towards the vaccines. And there's not a single place in
our government right now where the authorities won't drop these

(27:37):
vaccines despite pockets of great concern. You know, letters have
gone from the Senate and the Congress telling Lloyd Austin
the military dropped the vaccines. The Biden mandates went all
the way up to the Supreme Court and four out
of the five mandates were dropped partly, and based on
my expert testimony for that case that went all the
way up to the Supreme Court, I can tell you

(27:59):
that there is an intense desire to push these vaccines
at all costs. The most recent by valent massines were
pre purchased by the US government. They failed in animal
studies to stop COVID. There was a false surrogate rise
in the antibodies, and the bivalent vaccines were approved with
no human testing. And then our government went out and

(28:21):
told people to take it. This is unprecedented to to
ask the United States citizens to take a product that's
never been tested in a single human being, unprecedented. Why
are they pushing this so hard? We'd have to ask
someone in a position of govern an authority why. We'd
like to think that the presidents would know and be

(28:41):
in level with us. We've gone through two presidents, Trump
and Biden. Neither one have been honest with America on this.
We've had uh Dr Anthony Fauci, he hasn't leveled why,
White House Coordinator Shaw, CDC Director of Willinsky. We've had
people from the FDA resign over this, People leave the

(29:03):
c d C. No one will tell us why why
these vaccines won't be dry. Aren't being dropped because they
obviously don't work and they're not safe. We haven't covered
safety yet, but the safety data are just are atrocious Americans.
Every American knows is now that they take their life
in their hands in their hands with each shot. If

(29:24):
you can get into the safety data a little bit
more in terms of, you know, some of the adverse reactions.
I know we have theirs, but I've heard from a
lot of people that you know, we don't even that's
not even that's scratching the surface. Uh, you know, you
talked about a little bit earlier. But let's get into
a little bit more the safety concerns. What we know,
what we still don't know the government sources of data

(29:45):
that the CDC cre rates. One is BEARS Vaccine University
reporting system that's open to all of us. When people
take a vaccine, they're totally consult BEARS so they can
be informed on safety. And again, the CDC is confirming
fifteen thousand, seven thirty two Americans have died. And the
reporting to THEIRS is by doctors like me. I make
various reports every week in my practice, doctors, paramedics, corners, nurses.

(30:09):
It's really a medical reporting system that's an astonishing number.
Typically five more than fifty deaths is pulled off the
market with a swine flu vaccine desks pulled off the market.
But to let this go on to fifteen thousand, seven
thirty two confirmed deaths in the CDC confirms every single
death certificate they make, phone calls, they confirm them. That's underreported.

(30:33):
We believe by thirty that means four hundred and fifty
thousand Americans of titled vaccine. I mean, that's a war
that's worse than any war we've ever been in. It's
a self inflicted death. There's an analysis by McLachlan and
colleagues early on in the pandemic from bears. It included
a six percent of time. There's no other explanation outside
the vaccine that the deaths are occurring in the elderly.

(30:56):
And that's the reason why they're so hard to figure out,
because people are at the end of their lives. But
the death rates are astonishing in the elderly. We know
all cost mortality is skyrocketing in every single data system,
the Association of Actuaries or reporting this in life insurance data.
It's coming out in every single data system that death
is markedly increasing. It's not COVID, it's related to the vaccine.

(31:20):
And then we have um just an array of other
corroborating sources. So, for instance, Visor in the court ordered
release of their dossier on their vaccine, Visor knew about
one thousand two three does within ninety days of release
of their vaccine. So Fiser in the FDA should have
pulled it off the market probably before February one. The

(31:43):
FDA did not want to release that dossier to America
for fifty five years. The lawyer for the FDA fought
the release of the viser dossier. So our government is
involved right now in the pre prema faeschi uh mass
fatality cover up of a drug, which is the Fiser vaccine.

(32:04):
Madournal looks no better than Johnson Johnson Novavac is also
very concerning. So that's just death alone. Multiple data sources
confirmed the vaccines are resulting in large numbers of deaths.
How do people die well? Now, we have over two
hundred papers in their perio viewed literature that the vaccines
cause heart damage milcarditis. All of them do, by the way,

(32:26):
and the FDA admit to this pretty early on in
June of But we knew this long before this. Ralph
Barrack and nursing or Carolina Chapel Hill had shown beta
coronavirus is damaged the heartback, so we knew it was
possible that the spike protein would damage to the heart.
That's the reason why there was such a concern to
screen for minocarditis during the first wave of COVID. What

(32:48):
turns out, the respiratory illness causes relatively few cases of micardiis,
but the vaccine causes large numbers. Two prospective chord studies,
one by Mansugan and the other one by Passic now
show when we measure everything at baseline, take the vaccine
and measure everything again, the rate of heart damage is
about two point five percent. And all for a virus

(33:09):
that isn't that deadly on its face, that it really
isn't much deadlier than the flu. So all this vaccine injury,
this forceful nature, this you know, eroding of the rules
of the norms of you know, everything rational and everything
that has made sense, all for something that isn't really
that deadly. The Great Barrington Declaration proposed in October of

(33:34):
by j Barachara, who's in my group at Fox News.
He's from Stanford Barton Caldorf, also in my media group
at Fox, from Harvard and NCNICA group to from Oxford,
and a million doctors signed to including myself. It said, listen,
only protect the seniors. But this is like the common
cold for most young people like you and me, and
for the seniors it can be like like the flu

(33:56):
or and it can be fatal in people who are
very frail. But we would only protect the seniors, no lockdowns,
no masks. If there was going to be a safe,
an effective vaccine, it would only be for the seniors,
maybe two point seven million people. I'm not against vaccines,
but they should always be targeted. We should never blanket
back to the entire population. With the knowledge genetic vaccine

(34:18):
and and and the fact that our government pushed vaccines
into children down to age six months, people should be
looking at that and saying, listen, that's wrong. We would
never do that in a rational civil society. Vaccinating pregnant women,
people should look at that, understand that violates every bit
of meudiculture spons We never introduce new, dangerous injections into

(34:42):
pregnant women. Never. The American College of Sectors in Gynecology
took money, a ton of it from the federal government
in this community Core program. It was a government bribe
to put the push the vaccines on populations who you know,
good judgment would tell us to d do this quick
breaks stay with us. I'm for vaccines that actually confirm unity,

(35:08):
that are studied that I need, you know, but this
is none of those, which is why you know I
didn't get it. I wanted to ask you real quick.
You know. Another thing that is odd to me is,
you know, if you look at where this virus came from,
most common sense, just deductive reasoning, would lead one to
believe that it was a mistake at the Wuhan Institute
of Virology in Wuhan, where the original break took place,

(35:31):
where they're studying coronaviruses. Yet we see people like Dr
Fauci still trying to hold onto the theory that it
occurred in nature, which sort of just defies common sense.
Why is he still pushing that when you don't have
to be a you know, a rocket scientist to see
that all signs point took coming from the lab. It

(35:53):
seems very thin veiled cover up the U. S National
Institute's Health and then you military dark path through these agencies.
They devised stars Kobe too. It was engineered. It's well
documented in all the periviewed publications to publications that anybody
listening to this can pull. First authors by Mena Cherry,

(36:15):
Senior authors Ralph Berrick, This University in North Carolina, Chapola, Hell, Harvard,
and a Swiss institute. The US government dollars they they
did their research, They published their papers in Nature Proceedings
Nature Communications and the Proceedings of the National Academy Sciences,
two of the best journals. These are widely read papers.
The title of the papers say the emergence of Stars

(36:36):
Kobe two Indo human populations and it states that this
is a US funded project. It was conceived by US researchers.
The work was contracted out to the Bio Security Annex
uh in the Wu Hand Institute of Virology. They thank
the Chinese for letting the US use their facilities. The
first paper has no Chinese authors. The second paper has

(36:58):
three Chinese authors. But it's clear that papers are clear
this is a US project that intentionally made despite protein
more infectious and more lethal. They kept tweaking it and
tweaking it until they can invade a humanized respiratory epith
attractive animals and kill the animals. It was intentional and
at the same time they were trying to come up
with a vaccine monoclonal antibodies as an answer. Remember in

(37:22):
the military biological weapons research, they work on developing a
threat and they work on developing an answer. But it's
clear this is all fully disclosed to the public that
this is a US project that was done in the
Buhan instead of virology. What Vaucin and the others are
trying to bank on is that no one would just
read the papers published in the National Index, in the

(37:44):
National Library Medicine published and good journals, and that they
can fool the public by saying that, oh, it's just
a rose in the fish market. It's clear the virus
was physically in the lab. There must have been a
breach of lab security. Somehow the virus got out, somebody
went to the fish market, and then it went we
went from there. But these are these types of implausible,

(38:05):
ridiculous things that are government agencies can say that said,
can you imagine if they did that? This? Can you
imagine that this happened? And the first thing that came
out and said, listen, we've got to tell you the U.
S Government was working on this. We were using to
lab the Mouhan, China, and this accidentally got up. We're
going to do everything in our power to try to

(38:25):
limit this. But you know that the fault here is
are this was the US government project, and here are
all the papers that show it was. And we've been
working on vaccines as a solution to this since and
we have messenger RNA vaccines that we're going to make advance.
If President Trump came out and just told that to America,
I think everybody would have a much different attitude right now.

(38:47):
But we were lied to, We were like to buy
government agency officials up and down with these thin, veiled, implausible,
almost ridiculous explanations for what happened. I don't trust any
of republic both officials anymore. I even had my doctor
tried to one. They've tried to get me to get
the vaccine, and I've basically told them to go fla I.
And then she was also the doctor recently try to

(39:09):
get me to take the flu shot, and I was like,
I don't need that either. So I've just I'm sort of,
you know, unless we're tried and true, like polio and
MMR and things of that nature, I'm just going to
opt opt out of a lot of these recommendations because
I don't trust these people anymore. Um, you know, I
wanted to ask you, go ahead, let's pick up on
the flu shot. You know, a flu shot is now

(39:31):
advanced down to children age one. Age one children don't
get serious and flu ones at age one, you can
see something's gone out of you know, out of the
norm with the advancement of vaccine schedule. But I was
born there were just three shots, five different ancrogens, but
three shots. And I'm like you, I took them all,
and I don't have any problem with vaccines. But you know,

(39:52):
a child today faces sixteen different anigens and seventy two
different shots, and in the first day of life, that
baby is being given mult bull vaccines and things that
are that are absolutely not needed, like hepatitis B. I mean,
I took hepatitis B before I started working with blood
and body fluids in the hospital. That's the healthcare workers need.
Hepptites be vaccine, not not one day old babies unless

(40:14):
they're born to a drug abuse of a mother. I mean,
somehow the vaccine schedule got way out of whack, and
the vaccines are disappointingly ineffective. So, for instance, the flu
shot last year paper published by Chung and colleagues mmw
R sixteen percent vaccine efficacy that was statistically insignificant from zero,
meaning last year's flu shot was a complete waste for everybody.

(40:38):
The new Maccacal thirteen valent new Macacal vaccine published in
Gamma's vaccine efficacy against hospitalization and death was nine statistically
insignificant from zero. So these vaccines that have been advanced
out there are very very effective. And I'm like you,
I'm done with vaccines. I have sales and I'm not

(40:58):
taking skipping the flu shot. It's it's it's not worth it.
Even if the rarest side effect happens, You've gotten a
side effect and you've had no theoretical profit. Now I'm
approaching it from the standpoint of you're just trying to
make money off of me, even if it negatively impacts
my health. So you know, unless I truly need something,
I'm just going to opt out and then also do

(41:19):
what we really should be have been focusing on this
entire time, is actual health. You know, eat healthy, work out,
you know, be outside, get your vitamin D, like, live
a healthy lifestyle, which would create a lot more you know,
positive impact than you know, giving people a vaccine that
could be potentially injuring them for a virus that isn't

(41:39):
a threat to their life. Like, get outside, lose weight,
be healthy. That's a very good summer. You know. I
was doing research with stars Kobe too, I'm an internist
and cardiologist in practice in Dallas, but I was one
of the first investigation on drug applications. I'm widely known
to the FDA into government officials, and you know, the
White House had called me early in the pandemic for help,

(42:01):
and so um, I knew I was taking risk because
I was working in this area. So I intentionally lost
weight and ran and got fit and strong. I knew
I was going to get tagged a chair enough. I
got COVID and I got one of the early severe
strains I did get in an FDA approved early treatment
protocol did involve my lungs. But you know, I made

(42:22):
a video showing, you know, I could jog. After about
eight days, I was really short of breath, but I
could do that, got outside, and then we learned over
time boy losing weight exercise so important, emphasized vitamin D, virus,
cydal masal washes. That was a huge breakthrough. Everybody coming
down with the cold nowadays should have delut pavadon i

(42:43):
dine or dilut hydrogen peroxided, squired it up the nose,
sniff it back and spit it out. That is now
survival number one I carried with me when I traveled.
Anytime you get viral works for flu, works for COVID,
works for restaurants and social virus. It is the way
to go. We should never let a coal old fester
up in our nose and get tons of congestion for
days and days and days without doing something about it.

(43:05):
That is a giant mistake. We should never sit and
let a sore throat develop for two or three days,
and then with the nasal condition, we should be gargling
every every four to six hours, scope or listering and
kill the virus in the back of the throat by
reducing that viral burden. We make illnesses mild by being
fit and strong. Even if we get severe cases like

(43:25):
I had some pulmonary involvement, I was nowhere near being hospitalized.
I was out jogging by by day, so it's certainly
possible enough. I was obese, had diabetes, was weak and frail.
I could have been on the mechanical ventilator in the hospital.
It's so clear being fit and strong makes a giant difference.
I've managed people in their nineties through this illness with

(43:47):
the combination of early treatment protocols and the fitness and
wellness concepts that you've put forward well. And also now
we're finding out that long COVID is not because you know,
then there was the push about the vaccines is to
prevent long COVID, and then we're finding out that, you know,
one covid is not what they're making it to be
well long COVID about people with serious COVID hospitalized end

(44:10):
up with some residual symptoms, and then the lesser percent
about patients, but the vaccines make people feel sicker than
long covid. The CBC V safe data. Again, the CEC
was refusing to release this to America. Finally, under court order,
it was released to the and GEO i CAN and
then Aaron Syrie representing that group came on Fox News

(44:31):
on primetime and gave the results. This was, I think
the vaccines incapacitate people. They can't go to work the
next day, the after and seven to eight percent of
them have to go to the e r and become hospitalized.
That's acute. That's way worse than long COVID. So we
would never take a vaccine and end up in the
e r B hospitalized because we're trying to prevent long COVID.

(44:53):
These are ridiculous suggestions, that ridiculous claims. So the vaccines
have a cute tuck cicity. I've already covered myocarditis. Now
the FDA, two years too late, admits the vaccines caused
blood clots. And I've never seen so many blood clots
in my practice ever. And the blood clots occur, they're
large ones. They shoot to the lungs that can be fatal.

(45:14):
They occur on the venus side, the arterial side. We've
seen public figure after public figure go down with blood clots.
Al Boker, the weatherman on TV or in current Street
ESPN announced Dion Sanders, former football player, of blood clots
in this artail system, shooting to his toes. Amputations. The
blood clouding situation is horrendous. And finally our FDA is

(45:37):
admitting to this um watch out for anybody at risk
for blood clots and taking these vaccines. But did we
find out that for a long COVID it's about the
same as you know when you have other respiratory infections
in terms of what happens to your body after that,
well serious infections. People who have hair changes, women can
lose hair and nail changes. Feel tired. I think COVID

(45:58):
is unique because the virus stays in the body so long.
There's a autopy study by talent colleagues from the NIH
showing the viruses in the body for many months after
the infection. A lot of people don't realize this, So
you feel tired and there's a recovery period. There's not
much can be done about it. But the vaccine makes
long COVID much worse because it gives an extra installation

(46:19):
of the spite protein and then increases these risks. Remember
COVID is a risk for blood clotty. Now you take
the vaccine. Now you have double or triple the risk
of blood clott and then you get get COVID again
and then take more vaccines. We have never administered vaccines
every couple of months for an illness and get the
illness and keep taking the shots. That's another thing people
should recognize. That's nuts. Can you imagine getting months, then

(46:43):
taking a month's vaccine, and then getting months again, then
taking another months vaccine. We would never consider doing that,
So you know that right now something is completely off
the rails. You see, Rachelle Lewinski, are our presidents people
taking vaccines, they've already had the illness. Nobody should be
doing it. The former president Trump did that, and the

(47:05):
question on the table is what is he thinking? What
is his doctors thinking? I mean, not of it makes
its sense to me. How you know, They're like, oh,
I got COVID, but I'm they got a vaccinated double
boosted and you're like, well you still got you know,
like it doesn't make sense. Uh. This has been extremely informative, doctor,
you know one where can people go and find your work?

(47:26):
And then too, is there anything else you'd like to
leave us with? Well, thanks for having us on the show,
and you're doing such a great job out there, young
and dynamic and I'm sure your audience is huge. Please
go on my website Peter McCullough MD dot com that
gives links to all the social media I have, I
think the top doctor account on Twitter. I've been reinstated

(47:47):
on Twitter and many people follow me there. I have
a podcast, my own show America on Loud Talk Radio,
mccullo Report twice on Saturday twice on Study on the
podcast network. That's very highly rated and popular. I go
worldwide on anstence is a worldwide problem. I want to
hear from doctors who are innovating all over the world.
We take the nation's questions on COVID, which is very

(48:08):
important every Wednesday on Pulse on America out Loud. Have
a very popular subject called Courageous Discourse. I write with
best selling author John Leek, and we've also teamed up
for a book what's doing very well called Courage to
Face COVID nineteen, which is the only book in COVID
that's written by a full time real author who can
write a gripping narrative and explains how I got involved

(48:32):
the White House and the US Senate and you know,
how did I set all the records on Joe Rogan
and Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson. It keeps going on
and on. How did all this happen? This is the
story of all time And the only way we're going
to get out of this is when the vaccines are
completely dropped and we treat the remaining cases and we're

(48:54):
going to have to pick up the pieces with deep
investigation on who is behind all this and who's going
to be responsible for the injuries, of the disabilities and
the deaths have occurred, both with the COVID nineteen and
with the vaccines. Well, sir, I hope you know how
much you're appreciated. Uh, we need leaders like you. I
know it's not been easy, So thank you for what

(49:15):
you've done and for speaking out. It's truly appreciated and
I think you're going to be remembered in history as
one of the guys who helped, you know, rewrite this.
So thank you so much for everything you've done. Thanks
for having me. Ye that was Dr Peter McCalla. Thank

(49:43):
God for him and his voice and all of this
and trying to bring some sanity to a world of insanity.
Want to thank you guys at home for listening. I
want to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting this
all together every Monday every Thursday, but you can listen
throughout the week. Please leave us a review, give of
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