February 7, 2024 • 24 mins
In this episode, Dr. Jody Levine discusses the latest trend of skincare among teen girls and the potential dangers associated with it. She explains how social media influences these trends and the importance of using age-appropriate skincare products. Dr. Levine highlights the risks of using adult skincare products on kids' skin and the potential long-term damage it can cause. She also addresses concerns about cancer-causing ingredients in skincare products and emphasizes the importance of sun protection. Dr. Levine provides guidance on when to take kids to a dermatologist and discusses common skin conditions in children. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. For more information visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today, I want to dig into the latest trend among
teen girls. If you have teenage or even preteen girls
in your house, you've probably been bombarded.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
With conversations about skincare. I know I have.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
My girls are constantly wanting to go to Alta or Sephora,
and then suddenly I hear dermatologists on the news warning
parents of the dangers, which totally freaked me out because
we have kids that are always wanting skincare. And now
we have one of those experts with us here today
and we're going to find out exactly what is going
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to welcome in doctor Jody Levine to the podcast. Jody
is one of America's top dermatologists in the director of
Dermatology and Plastic Surgery at DERMOT and Director of Dermatology
at Plastic Surgery and Dermatology of NYC, a leading medical
(02:10):
and aesthetic practice in New York City. Thank you so
much for joining us today, So happy to be here.
I am so happy to have you because, like I said,
I have four girls. So my girls, I have twins
that are ten and then twelve and thirteen, twelve and fourteen,
and my ten year old, well, one of the ten
year olds is actually the worst about this. She's constantly like,
(02:32):
I need this skincare, I need this, I need that.
And then in the fall, my middle daughter, my twelve
year old, was like obsessed with something I had never
heard of called drunk elephant and she's like, Mom, I
need this drunk elephant.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And so I go to the store.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And it's I mean, and it's cute, right, that sounds like, Oh,
it's an elephant. It's cute, and it's in colorful boxes,
and she's like picking this stuff up. I'm like, this
is for people my age that have problems with wrinkles
under their eyes.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You're not getting this, So how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Tell us all about it, and tell us all about
what we're doing wrong if we buy these things.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, social media is definitely it to wame. Tiktop YouTube,
I mean, it tells kids what they should believe in
these days, and there are tons of tiktops of people
going through their skincare routine, which takes twenty minutes putting
this on top of this, on top of this, and
kids as young as eat and they're just doing it all.
(03:29):
And the problem is these skincare products aren't meant for adults.
They had active ingredients that are too strong for kid skin.
When I was I'm trained to book pediatrics and dermatology,
and during my pediatric training, we had a saying that
kids are not little adults. And it's very true. Children
are not little adults. Their skin is different. The you
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don't produce as much oil as children, and because your
skin is not producing as much oil, the skin can
absorb more of the active ingredients. That's first off. Well,
also the skin barrier, it is very sensitive and you
really have to protect the skin barrier so the skin
doesn't fry out. In a position the epidermis is thinner.
On the epidermicist is thinner, you are at greater risk
(04:14):
for sundatsh and for our long term sun damage. In addition,
these products have expoliants that aren't meant to thin out
the epidermis, so it's plusing even more problems. And less
kids are using SPF sunferfection, which they're not.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So some of these these girls that are looking at this.
I mean, I've been hearing you know, these kids are
using it. It's actually potentially causing long term damage to
their skin. And they think, you know, I don't have
any acting now, I'm going to prevent this. But what
is it actually doing is what are the actual harms
When you see kids like using a retinal.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So at baseline, they're irritating. Retinals are very irritating, even
for adults. We have to teach people how to apply them,
to use a peace size. You start every other day.
Sometimes I'd start patients just fusing your rentmal twice a
weet until their skin gets used to it. We sand
which are red vault between moisturizers and voisturizer first the
retinal than another boistizer. So kids are using these products
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that are so irritating. When skin gets irritated, it gets dry, itchy, stinging, burning.
Sometimes kids get chemical burns from these products. It can
last for a while, it can take up to a
month to deal. But another problem that a lot of
people are not focusing on is there's a lot of
roseesia going on in America and especially to sixteen million
(05:33):
Americans have rosacea, and roseesia is seeing when you're older,
between like thirty and sixty. But one of the thoughts
is that it's from all these skin care products that
people are using and exposing their skin to all these
preservatives and ingredients, and that plumps the skin to become sensitive.
So my fear is that it's not being exposed to
all these preservative fragrances, and over time it's gonna lead
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to more sensitive skin, more roseationia when they're older.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So there's been some talk in the news about some
of these products that are using.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Different types of I guess I don't even know what
it is and whether it is.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shampoo or face products or makeup that are causing have
cancer causing properties in them. So when I see I
mean honestly, I go to the grocery store and I
buy the shampoo there, and I don't know whether that's
safe for the kids, and then they want to put
on makeup.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now and all these things.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
How as a parent, do we say, Okay, what are
the things that are dangerous? Are there are there chemicals
that we should be looking for on labels that are
protecting our kids from cancer causing active ingredients?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I guess, well, I don't think any of the fear
about answer closing ingredients is really found in true studies,
So I would focus more on the irritation and the
long term sensitivity of the skin rather than on answer.
The only type of buncer worried about would be that
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which is you know you're exposed to from UV damage,
which is you know, basal cells and spainless cell that
come out later in life but are based on sun
damage that happened before you're eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Some of these, though, do they make your skin more
susceptible to sun damage? Because I know I used the
So I went to the dermatologists and she was like,
I didn't get a whole lot of instructions, or perhaps
I don't listen. I don't know, but she gave me
this retinal and I put it on my face and
I didn't do the whole thing that you said, like lotion,
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retinal lotion. I put it on and I used it
for like four days straight and I'd never used it before,
and on I looked like a burn victim.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
My whole entire face peeled.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Off, and like the girl in my office was like,
what did you do to yourself? I'm like, I used
this stuff and She's like, no, no, no, you have
no idea what you're doing. I mean, so if that
can happen to an adult, which obviously I'm not paying
attention to the instructions, but you know what happens to
a child that uses this?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And how sensitive.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Was my skin at that point to the sun once
it had all peeled off?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right? For sure, your skin is very sensitive to the
sun and to the other pollutings in an environment. I
think we should use this trend of kids caring about
skinpair to teach healthy habits and to encourage people to
actually use sunfo bench if we can get Itits to
be so interested in using a moisturizer with sun block
every day, that would be amazing. Oddly, this trends of
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layering off the skincare products isn't extending to sun protection,
which I wish it would. We need some sun blocks
out there in Alto Sophara that have pretty packaging and
you know fixs that look exciting for kids, because that's
what's the most important anti agm ingredient is actually some block.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's interesting because I have noticed it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They bring these things home and they don't have any
sun luck in them. So when I was a kid,
you would go, I mean, maybe I'm the only person
that gets all of my stuff at the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know. That's probably not what.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You're supposed to do, but you know you would get
like the Neutrogena face cream and it had some block
in it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And that was all I used as a kid. Right,
that's a great product.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think if we can get children to use gentle
cleanser and a daily oisturizer, it's unlock non comutogenet. We
don't want to induce acne broad spectrum SPF at least
thirty and then the dental cleanser at night with a
light oistreizer, that would be ideal.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's interesting because my kids will be like, you know,
it used to be that I'm pushing them into the
bathroom at night and I'm like, brush your teeth and
do this, and you have to get through all these
different hygiene steps. And now they're like, Mom, I need
time to do my skincare.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And that's literally what they call it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I think that's a TikTok term or something, and
my kids don't have TikTok, but you still see the
TikTok videos. If you're on any other any other social media,
they're always playing or YouTube shorts is what they're watching
this stuff on. I didn't even know YouTube shorts was
a thing. And my daughter, my oldest, is like, oh,
I saw this on YouTube shorts and she's showing me
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and it's like they just scroll from one video to
the next video about all of the different healthcare products.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And when they were little.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So folks that are out there that are listening who
have older kids, now you probably remember when your kids
were little, they got really sucked into those people that
would unbox toys, and I think that this is like
the next stage to that. So my kids used to
watch people open toy adults, and I used to be
completely freaked out by this because I'm like, what is
(10:45):
the attraction to watching an adult open a toy? And
then it would be really weird because they would open
the toy, like, unwrap it, open it, and then cut
the toy in half and be like this is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
What the inside of the toy looks. I'm like, why
do you want to watch this?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But I swear prepared them for these videos because now
they will sit and watch people put makeup on and
at first it started that way where they were just
wanting to see and I think there's a curiosity for
young girls how do people do makeup?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And so they started with makeup.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But then is it these companies, I mean kind of
like the Stanley Cup craze. Is it these companies like
Drunk Elephant and these other ones who are like, Okay,
this is a great way to get women to see this,
and it just happens to also be going to young girls.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think for sure, teenagers always want to do what
people older do. I mean, it's it's natural right kids younger,
younger siblings want to be like their older siblings, and
so whatever. If you want a trend to be popular
amongst tweets, you bring it to teens. Then if you're
on a twee popital one teens, you bring it to
the young adults. That makes sense. I just I think
(11:53):
that this trend in caring about your skincare routine is
good in the sense that when it's time to transition
the skinpare that they need, like when they build puberty
and they start to get act, it'll be an easy transition.
Because before this it was hard to even get some
of my patients to you as their acne products when
they needed them. Now, I feel like they'll be used
(12:14):
to it. So as long as we can direct the
products that kids are using to be ones that are
safe and not harmful, that irritating the trend can.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Work in our paper and okayth long at the use
of Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So what
are some of.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The some of the products that are out there that
you see young people using that they shouldn't be Because I,
like I said I my kids were bringing me things
and they're like, we want this, we want this, and
like I'm I'm looking at my notes for this podcast
and Sarah, who a lot of people hear me talk
about Sarah. She has in their bum bum cream. And
(12:57):
I'm gonna call her out on this because I'm pretty
sure sure that she got my kids this for Christmas
and I'm like, oh my gosh, what is this?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So what is it? I think the really important thing
is to actually bring your greens to a armatologist and
the show them the creed. Oh, let them look at
the ingredients on the bottle. If there are self s
look acid bicholic acid, laugh, theic acid, you know, the AHA's, BHA's,
they're exfoliating, they're irritating. The retinols, like you mentioned, excessive
(13:26):
freightrances are also a little bit bad because they can
be very irritating, especially if people have sensitive skin. So
and everyone is different and truths. You know, there are
kids who can tolerate that, and then there are kids
who can't give our phone to eggs inline and dry
skin and you know, sensitivities in general. So it's best
to break to adopt or look the doctor, look at
everything and individualize the care.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean, are kids' rooms.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's funny to me because we're a girl house. I mean,
we only have girls. So my girlfriends that have sons,
they're like, oh, their room smells so bad. And I'm like, seriously,
because our girls' rooms constantly smell like some floral thing
or this or candy. You know, it's like they are
obsessed with the different sense and you know, I mean
(14:11):
the marketing on this stuff is great because you've got
bath and body works and their their sense change every
few months, and the girl's.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Like, we gotta go, we gotta get the new sense.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And they have their dressers are just filled with these
things and it does worry me. You know, they don't
they haven't gotten rashes, but they and then you know,
when they all get in the car right after they've
all put a different smell on, I'm like, die, this's
vehicle with four kids with different smells on.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But I mean, it really is. It is interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because this is not how we grew up because there
was obviously not social media back then. But they do
take a different level of interest in their skincare. So
I've never taken my kids to a dermatologist outside of
a couple of times when I was like, Okay, this
is a freckle. I'm concerned about when what do you
recommend as parents? When should we take our kids to
(15:05):
the to the dermatologists? What are some warning signs that
we should be aware of? And then is there just
like a general time when your kids should see a dermatologist.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, in terms of this in pare trend, I think
it would be great for anyone who's dealing with their
children try to put outaly different products to go to
a dermatologist. Other than that, I like to do a
general full body check on children. Basically once in lower school,
once in middle school, once in high school, and then
(15:33):
probably the anually once they get to Hollida age, unless
there is a natural family history of UPSC and cancer,
in which case I'm making it more often, or if
the childs has a lot of irregular moles and we'll
see them more often.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So that's what you're looking for when you're doing a
full body check.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mean, because I will be honest, I've never done
this with my kids, and I think some of us
feel like, oh, we go to the annual checkup, but
my doctor, the pediatrician, does and do that. And in
the few times that I've said I'm concerned about this,
like oh, you could have a dermatologist look at it,
So it does seem like it's out of their purview
at the regular pediatrician's office. So if you are concerned
(16:12):
about this, I mean, or if you've never thought about it,
you're saying, like in elementary, middle and high school, they
should be seen at least once, and then the dermatologists
will determine whether or not they should be seen more often,
if there's anything to keep an eye on, what kinds
of things would they be keeping an eye on, and
how often do you see problems with kids, because I
(16:33):
guess it's something I just kind of haven't thought about yet.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Kids can have irregular lulls or even melanomalkhuse it's a
lot less common in children than in adults. There are
other skin conditions also that kids come in for, of course,
ens up also carotosis pilours such as that little chicken skin,
or red bumps on the arms, sometimes at seats or
even the thighs of the behind. Now that social is
(17:00):
such a thing, it's probably important for kids who have
skin conditions like that to come to the darnisologens. But
the theory is they're going to start using products from
TikTok instead of using the right products. So I think
any any child with something on their skin that you're
a concerned a map should count. I see kids with
molestomola lust them on these little viruss in juice pimples,
(17:24):
and that they they're from the chicken pops family, and
they spread like crazy with the real name.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Is is this also known as water warts?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Is it? I'd never heard water warts?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But oh my gosh, so that that went around this area,
it's like it is like it they are kind of
clear looking, but they're yes. So I just for people listening,
had no idea what this was. And I swear this
was not a thing when we were kids.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But we went to the doctor and the doctor was like,
oh water wards and I'm like, that sounds awful. I
don't know what this is. It's terrifying, and.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think it's something that you just there are our
skin conditions that you don't know about, and that one, honestly,
that one.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Was terrifying to me. And they're like, oh, this lasts
for a really long time.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But there are just things that I have not I mean,
we have a few issues with some ezema here and there,
and I think that it's something we had not as
a family really thought about.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And you mentioned something that I think is very interesting
that they could be using the wrong products.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And I have sometimes been like lulled into this false
sense of security where they're like, oh, mom, I saw
this and I need it because it does this, and
I'm like, okay, you know you're busy, and you're like, oh,
that must that must be good and I probably am
not doing the research. And so I think that's important
to remind parents of when your kids see something, do
(18:56):
the research, and then talk to a medical professional about it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I think it's also a bonding opportunity, a month's bid
to say I use this beam, oh I use that
being too. And everyone is different and with what works
for your child's friend, it's not what's going to work
for your child's So it is important to break good
with after and you know, find out what's right. They
work it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And sometimes, I mean we see a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know, my oldest is just getting into high school now,
so now you see all of the everything is flaring up, right,
Hormones are changing, Everything is flaring up.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And the girls are like, well, so exactly what you
just said. So and so is using this, and so
and so is using that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And it seems like one of those things that you
don't want to like, Oh I do I really need
to take the time to go in. But how does
that work? When you are the dermatologist and you're looking
at the child's skin, you can actually see the differences
from one child to another and make a diagnosis that
they should be using something specific rather than just what
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their friend is used.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Definitely mean kids that have a history of ITEMA or
sensitive skin or carotospelars like I was talking about those
long but sensitive skin. Those are signs of children that
shouldn't be using the same products as it's regular, normal,
strong skin. I remember when I went through my training,
(20:19):
leads told everyone that they should be using dumb soap.
Love soap is nice and moisturizing and you know, grease
with everyone's skin. I love them, But the truth is,
there are a lot of people that can handle I've
resol it's just that there aren't people if that can't.
So you know, it's not that the whole world beats
use and oisturizing soap, but that population people with sensitive
(20:39):
skin need to use it. They really have to customize
your skincare for location.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, it's been definitely interesting talking about this because we
have so many different things in our house and they
are really fascinating for kids. I mean, we've got bubble,
there's the drunk Elephant, there's the bum bum cream. All
of these things are bright colors. They're very fascinating. They
make children want to I mean, every time I say
(21:07):
I have to go to all to the girls are
all like, you're not going without us, We're going. And
if I come home with an alta bag. They freak out, like,
how could you have done this? But like I've committed
some mortal sin that I went to the skincare store
without them. So it's definitely been fascinating. I think there's
a lot of people out there. What is your advice
to parents?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
For me?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, we're trying to cut down on their time
online and all of that, But what is your advice
to parents who have young girls who are really getting
addicted to makeup and stuff and maybe that's a little
too young.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Paul? I think if it's a trend and it's what
their friends are doing, it's gonna be hard to saying
don't do it, So you just need to direct it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Were things that will be good so them.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So like I have patience to our little girls who
are just not satisfied with Jeff's using the whistries with
some in the morning or just using a gentle censer
and a light watch strizer. They want something else, So
I'll give them a cero more cream to use in between.
But I'll give them a green tea cierum g teat
and be it the best antioxident. So like we have
(22:15):
we make a green c CR but green tea cream
depending on watch drizing we want the product to be.
And it's great because it helps protype the skin from
free radicals in the environment and some sud down it
and then I know, Okay, the kids will feel good
that they have a multi layer skin routine, but at
least the products that they're using are good for them.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So these are products that you actually sell to like
four teenagers. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I do. I mean I could show you my light
products here. Yeah, this is a antioxid it's so pre cleanser.
Of course the packaging is not as exciting and colorful,
probably sue.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We're gonna make make that brighter colors. It's gonna have
to have a name with an air. I don't want
it any know.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But it has HEALTHI fenles, vitamin Acee, Poenza, and shoot ten.
I mean, these are these are great ingredients for for
kids and adults. Good absolutely not the irritating. My favorite
daily moisturizer with some block is SPF forty five and
actually it's SPF fifty and it has u v A
and u v B the protection and it has green tea. Again,
(23:23):
I love green tea and then I give them some
I have a Dike cream, a day cream depending on
health pick. We wanted to be also in vitamins. The
goal is to nourish the skin, you know, great healthy
skin and not ard inness.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So where do they Where do people find that? If
they can, they order it online my products to be
sell them on the website. Yes, you can call any
ship fund give us the website just so we have that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It is plastics and Derm dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Awesome, all right, So that's where you need to go
if you have kids. And and I love that idea
of something that is really healthy, healthy that has vitamins
because I think that that's what they're really looking for.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They just don't realize it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So if we can kind of push them that direction
as parents, that's that's what we're here for. That Who
knew that we would be in a whole new world
of having to make sure our kids were putting the
right thing on their face.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But this is where we are.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I'm really I'm really glad that we had you
on today and you were able to share that with us.
Doctor Jody Levine, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Thank you so much for having me absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
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Speaker 1 (24:48):
Have a blessing.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today, I want to dig into the latest trend among
teen girls. If you have teenage or even preteen girls
in your house, you've probably been bombarded.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
With conversations about skincare. I know I have.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
My girls are constantly wanting to go to Alta or Sephora,
and then suddenly I hear dermatologists on the news warning
parents of the dangers, which totally freaked me out because
we have kids that are always wanting skincare. And now
we have one of those experts with us here today
and we're going to find out exactly what is going
on with these popular skincare products and teen girls. But first,
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is one of America's top dermatologists in the director of
Dermatology and Plastic Surgery at DERMOT and Director of Dermatology
at Plastic Surgery and Dermatology of NYC, a leading medical
(02:10):
and aesthetic practice in New York City. Thank you so
much for joining us today, So happy to be here.
I am so happy to have you because, like I said,
I have four girls. So my girls, I have twins
that are ten and then twelve and thirteen, twelve and fourteen,
and my ten year old, well, one of the ten
year olds is actually the worst about this. She's constantly like,
(02:32):
I need this skincare, I need this, I need that.
And then in the fall, my middle daughter, my twelve
year old, was like obsessed with something I had never
heard of called drunk elephant and she's like, Mom, I
need this drunk elephant.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And so I go to the store.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And it's I mean, and it's cute, right, that sounds like, Oh,
it's an elephant. It's cute, and it's in colorful boxes,
and she's like picking this stuff up. I'm like, this
is for people my age that have problems with wrinkles
under their eyes.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You're not getting this, So how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Tell us all about it, and tell us all about
what we're doing wrong if we buy these things.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, social media is definitely it to wame. Tiktop YouTube,
I mean, it tells kids what they should believe in
these days, and there are tons of tiktops of people
going through their skincare routine, which takes twenty minutes putting
this on top of this, on top of this, and
kids as young as eat and they're just doing it all.
(03:29):
And the problem is these skincare products aren't meant for adults.
They had active ingredients that are too strong for kid skin.
When I was I'm trained to book pediatrics and dermatology,
and during my pediatric training, we had a saying that
kids are not little adults. And it's very true. Children
are not little adults. Their skin is different. The you
(03:50):
don't produce as much oil as children, and because your
skin is not producing as much oil, the skin can
absorb more of the active ingredients. That's first off. Well,
also the skin barrier, it is very sensitive and you
really have to protect the skin barrier so the skin
doesn't fry out. In a position the epidermis is thinner.
On the epidermicist is thinner, you are at greater risk
(04:14):
for sundatsh and for our long term sun damage. In addition,
these products have expoliants that aren't meant to thin out
the epidermis, so it's plusing even more problems. And less
kids are using SPF sunferfection, which they're not.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So some of these these girls that are looking at this.
I mean, I've been hearing you know, these kids are
using it. It's actually potentially causing long term damage to
their skin. And they think, you know, I don't have
any acting now, I'm going to prevent this. But what
is it actually doing is what are the actual harms
When you see kids like using a retinal.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So at baseline, they're irritating. Retinals are very irritating, even
for adults. We have to teach people how to apply them,
to use a peace size. You start every other day.
Sometimes I'd start patients just fusing your rentmal twice a
weet until their skin gets used to it. We sand
which are red vault between moisturizers and voisturizer first the
retinal than another boistizer. So kids are using these products
(05:12):
that are so irritating. When skin gets irritated, it gets dry, itchy, stinging, burning.
Sometimes kids get chemical burns from these products. It can
last for a while, it can take up to a
month to deal. But another problem that a lot of
people are not focusing on is there's a lot of
roseesia going on in America and especially to sixteen million
(05:33):
Americans have rosacea, and roseesia is seeing when you're older,
between like thirty and sixty. But one of the thoughts
is that it's from all these skin care products that
people are using and exposing their skin to all these
preservatives and ingredients, and that plumps the skin to become sensitive.
So my fear is that it's not being exposed to
all these preservative fragrances, and over time it's gonna lead
(05:56):
to more sensitive skin, more roseationia when they're older.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So there's been some talk in the news about some
of these products that are using.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Different types of I guess I don't even know what
it is and whether it is.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shampoo or face products or makeup that are causing have
cancer causing properties in them. So when I see I
mean honestly, I go to the grocery store and I
buy the shampoo there, and I don't know whether that's
safe for the kids, and then they want to put
on makeup.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now and all these things.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
How as a parent, do we say, Okay, what are
the things that are dangerous? Are there are there chemicals
that we should be looking for on labels that are
protecting our kids from cancer causing active ingredients?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I guess, well, I don't think any of the fear
about answer closing ingredients is really found in true studies,
So I would focus more on the irritation and the
long term sensitivity of the skin rather than on answer.
The only type of buncer worried about would be that
(07:03):
which is you know you're exposed to from UV damage,
which is you know, basal cells and spainless cell that
come out later in life but are based on sun
damage that happened before you're eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Some of these, though, do they make your skin more
susceptible to sun damage? Because I know I used the
So I went to the dermatologists and she was like,
I didn't get a whole lot of instructions, or perhaps
I don't listen. I don't know, but she gave me
this retinal and I put it on my face and
I didn't do the whole thing that you said, like lotion,
(07:36):
retinal lotion. I put it on and I used it
for like four days straight and I'd never used it before,
and on I looked like a burn victim.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
My whole entire face peeled.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Off, and like the girl in my office was like,
what did you do to yourself? I'm like, I used
this stuff and She's like, no, no, no, you have
no idea what you're doing. I mean, so if that
can happen to an adult, which obviously I'm not paying
attention to the instructions, but you know what happens to
a child that uses this?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And how sensitive.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Was my skin at that point to the sun once
it had all peeled off?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right? For sure, your skin is very sensitive to the
sun and to the other pollutings in an environment. I
think we should use this trend of kids caring about
skinpair to teach healthy habits and to encourage people to
actually use sunfo bench if we can get Itits to
be so interested in using a moisturizer with sun block
every day, that would be amazing. Oddly, this trends of
(08:36):
layering off the skincare products isn't extending to sun protection,
which I wish it would. We need some sun blocks
out there in Alto Sophara that have pretty packaging and
you know fixs that look exciting for kids, because that's
what's the most important anti agm ingredient is actually some block.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's interesting because I have noticed it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They bring these things home and they don't have any
sun luck in them. So when I was a kid,
you would go, I mean, maybe I'm the only person
that gets all of my stuff at the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know. That's probably not what.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You're supposed to do, but you know you would get
like the Neutrogena face cream and it had some block
in it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And that was all I used as a kid. Right,
that's a great product.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think if we can get children to use gentle
cleanser and a daily oisturizer, it's unlock non comutogenet. We
don't want to induce acne broad spectrum SPF at least
thirty and then the dental cleanser at night with a
light oistreizer, that would be ideal.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's interesting because my kids will be like, you know,
it used to be that I'm pushing them into the
bathroom at night and I'm like, brush your teeth and
do this, and you have to get through all these
different hygiene steps. And now they're like, Mom, I need
time to do my skincare.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And that's literally what they call it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I think that's a TikTok term or something, and
my kids don't have TikTok, but you still see the
TikTok videos. If you're on any other any other social media,
they're always playing or YouTube shorts is what they're watching
this stuff on. I didn't even know YouTube shorts was
a thing. And my daughter, my oldest, is like, oh,
I saw this on YouTube shorts and she's showing me
(10:18):
and it's like they just scroll from one video to
the next video about all of the different healthcare products.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And when they were little.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So folks that are out there that are listening who
have older kids, now you probably remember when your kids
were little, they got really sucked into those people that
would unbox toys, and I think that this is like
the next stage to that. So my kids used to
watch people open toy adults, and I used to be
completely freaked out by this because I'm like, what is
(10:45):
the attraction to watching an adult open a toy? And
then it would be really weird because they would open
the toy, like, unwrap it, open it, and then cut
the toy in half and be like this is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
What the inside of the toy looks. I'm like, why
do you want to watch this?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But I swear prepared them for these videos because now
they will sit and watch people put makeup on and
at first it started that way where they were just
wanting to see and I think there's a curiosity for
young girls how do people do makeup?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And so they started with makeup.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But then is it these companies, I mean kind of
like the Stanley Cup craze. Is it these companies like
Drunk Elephant and these other ones who are like, Okay,
this is a great way to get women to see this,
and it just happens to also be going to young girls.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think for sure, teenagers always want to do what
people older do. I mean, it's it's natural right kids younger,
younger siblings want to be like their older siblings, and
so whatever. If you want a trend to be popular
amongst tweets, you bring it to teens. Then if you're
on a twee popital one teens, you bring it to
the young adults. That makes sense. I just I think
(11:53):
that this trend in caring about your skincare routine is
good in the sense that when it's time to transition
the skinpare that they need, like when they build puberty
and they start to get act, it'll be an easy transition.
Because before this it was hard to even get some
of my patients to you as their acne products when
they needed them. Now, I feel like they'll be used
(12:14):
to it. So as long as we can direct the
products that kids are using to be ones that are
safe and not harmful, that irritating the trend can.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Work in our paper and okayth long at the use
of Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So what
are some of.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The some of the products that are out there that
you see young people using that they shouldn't be Because I,
like I said I my kids were bringing me things
and they're like, we want this, we want this, and
like I'm I'm looking at my notes for this podcast
and Sarah, who a lot of people hear me talk
about Sarah. She has in their bum bum cream. And
(12:57):
I'm gonna call her out on this because I'm pretty
sure sure that she got my kids this for Christmas
and I'm like, oh my gosh, what is this?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So what is it? I think the really important thing
is to actually bring your greens to a armatologist and
the show them the creed. Oh, let them look at
the ingredients on the bottle. If there are self s
look acid bicholic acid, laugh, theic acid, you know, the AHA's, BHA's,
they're exfoliating, they're irritating. The retinols, like you mentioned, excessive
(13:26):
freightrances are also a little bit bad because they can
be very irritating, especially if people have sensitive skin. So
and everyone is different and truths. You know, there are
kids who can tolerate that, and then there are kids
who can't give our phone to eggs inline and dry
skin and you know, sensitivities in general. So it's best
to break to adopt or look the doctor, look at
everything and individualize the care.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean, are kids' rooms.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's funny to me because we're a girl house. I mean,
we only have girls. So my girlfriends that have sons,
they're like, oh, their room smells so bad. And I'm like, seriously,
because our girls' rooms constantly smell like some floral thing
or this or candy. You know, it's like they are
obsessed with the different sense and you know, I mean
(14:11):
the marketing on this stuff is great because you've got
bath and body works and their their sense change every
few months, and the girl's.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Like, we gotta go, we gotta get the new sense.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And they have their dressers are just filled with these
things and it does worry me. You know, they don't
they haven't gotten rashes, but they and then you know,
when they all get in the car right after they've
all put a different smell on, I'm like, die, this's
vehicle with four kids with different smells on.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But I mean, it really is. It is interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because this is not how we grew up because there
was obviously not social media back then. But they do
take a different level of interest in their skincare. So
I've never taken my kids to a dermatologist outside of
a couple of times when I was like, Okay, this
is a freckle. I'm concerned about when what do you
recommend as parents? When should we take our kids to
(15:05):
the to the dermatologists? What are some warning signs that
we should be aware of? And then is there just
like a general time when your kids should see a dermatologist.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, in terms of this in pare trend, I think
it would be great for anyone who's dealing with their
children try to put outaly different products to go to
a dermatologist. Other than that, I like to do a
general full body check on children. Basically once in lower school,
once in middle school, once in high school, and then
(15:33):
probably the anually once they get to Hollida age, unless
there is a natural family history of UPSC and cancer,
in which case I'm making it more often, or if
the childs has a lot of irregular moles and we'll
see them more often.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So that's what you're looking for when you're doing a
full body check.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mean, because I will be honest, I've never done
this with my kids, and I think some of us
feel like, oh, we go to the annual checkup, but
my doctor, the pediatrician, does and do that. And in
the few times that I've said I'm concerned about this,
like oh, you could have a dermatologist look at it,
So it does seem like it's out of their purview
at the regular pediatrician's office. So if you are concerned
(16:12):
about this, I mean, or if you've never thought about it,
you're saying, like in elementary, middle and high school, they
should be seen at least once, and then the dermatologists
will determine whether or not they should be seen more often,
if there's anything to keep an eye on, what kinds
of things would they be keeping an eye on, and
how often do you see problems with kids, because I
(16:33):
guess it's something I just kind of haven't thought about yet.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Kids can have irregular lulls or even melanomalkhuse it's a
lot less common in children than in adults. There are
other skin conditions also that kids come in for, of course,
ens up also carotosis pilours such as that little chicken skin,
or red bumps on the arms, sometimes at seats or
even the thighs of the behind. Now that social is
(17:00):
such a thing, it's probably important for kids who have
skin conditions like that to come to the darnisologens. But
the theory is they're going to start using products from
TikTok instead of using the right products. So I think
any any child with something on their skin that you're
a concerned a map should count. I see kids with
molestomola lust them on these little viruss in juice pimples,
(17:24):
and that they they're from the chicken pops family, and
they spread like crazy with the real name.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Is is this also known as water warts?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Is it? I'd never heard water warts?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But oh my gosh, so that that went around this area,
it's like it is like it they are kind of
clear looking, but they're yes. So I just for people listening,
had no idea what this was. And I swear this
was not a thing when we were kids.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But we went to the doctor and the doctor was like,
oh water wards and I'm like, that sounds awful. I
don't know what this is. It's terrifying, and.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think it's something that you just there are our
skin conditions that you don't know about, and that one, honestly,
that one.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Was terrifying to me. And they're like, oh, this lasts
for a really long time.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But there are just things that I have not I mean,
we have a few issues with some ezema here and there,
and I think that it's something we had not as
a family really thought about.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And you mentioned something that I think is very interesting
that they could be using the wrong products.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And I have sometimes been like lulled into this false
sense of security where they're like, oh, mom, I saw
this and I need it because it does this, and
I'm like, okay, you know you're busy, and you're like, oh,
that must that must be good and I probably am
not doing the research. And so I think that's important
to remind parents of when your kids see something, do
(18:56):
the research, and then talk to a medical professional about it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I think it's also a bonding opportunity, a month's bid
to say I use this beam, oh I use that
being too. And everyone is different and with what works
for your child's friend, it's not what's going to work
for your child's So it is important to break good
with after and you know, find out what's right. They
work it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And sometimes, I mean we see a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know, my oldest is just getting into high school now,
so now you see all of the everything is flaring up, right,
Hormones are changing, Everything is flaring up.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And the girls are like, well, so exactly what you
just said. So and so is using this, and so
and so is using that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And it seems like one of those things that you
don't want to like, Oh I do I really need
to take the time to go in. But how does
that work? When you are the dermatologist and you're looking
at the child's skin, you can actually see the differences
from one child to another and make a diagnosis that
they should be using something specific rather than just what
(19:57):
their friend is used.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Definitely mean kids that have a history of ITEMA or
sensitive skin or carotospelars like I was talking about those
long but sensitive skin. Those are signs of children that
shouldn't be using the same products as it's regular, normal,
strong skin. I remember when I went through my training,
(20:19):
leads told everyone that they should be using dumb soap.
Love soap is nice and moisturizing and you know, grease
with everyone's skin. I love them, But the truth is,
there are a lot of people that can handle I've
resol it's just that there aren't people if that can't.
So you know, it's not that the whole world beats
use and oisturizing soap, but that population people with sensitive
(20:39):
skin need to use it. They really have to customize
your skincare for location.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, it's been definitely interesting talking about this because we
have so many different things in our house and they
are really fascinating for kids. I mean, we've got bubble,
there's the drunk Elephant, there's the bum bum cream. All
of these things are bright colors. They're very fascinating. They
make children want to I mean, every time I say
(21:07):
I have to go to all to the girls are
all like, you're not going without us, We're going. And
if I come home with an alta bag. They freak out, like,
how could you have done this? But like I've committed
some mortal sin that I went to the skincare store
without them. So it's definitely been fascinating. I think there's
a lot of people out there. What is your advice
to parents?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
For me?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, we're trying to cut down on their time
online and all of that, But what is your advice
to parents who have young girls who are really getting
addicted to makeup and stuff and maybe that's a little
too young.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Paul? I think if it's a trend and it's what
their friends are doing, it's gonna be hard to saying
don't do it, So you just need to direct it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Were things that will be good so them.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So like I have patience to our little girls who
are just not satisfied with Jeff's using the whistries with
some in the morning or just using a gentle censer
and a light watch strizer. They want something else, So
I'll give them a cero more cream to use in between.
But I'll give them a green tea cierum g teat
and be it the best antioxident. So like we have
(22:15):
we make a green c CR but green tea cream
depending on watch drizing we want the product to be.
And it's great because it helps protype the skin from
free radicals in the environment and some sud down it
and then I know, Okay, the kids will feel good
that they have a multi layer skin routine, but at
least the products that they're using are good for them.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So these are products that you actually sell to like
four teenagers. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I do. I mean I could show you my light
products here. Yeah, this is a antioxid it's so pre cleanser.
Of course the packaging is not as exciting and colorful,
probably sue.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We're gonna make make that brighter colors. It's gonna have
to have a name with an air. I don't want
it any know.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But it has HEALTHI fenles, vitamin Acee, Poenza, and shoot ten.
I mean, these are these are great ingredients for for
kids and adults. Good absolutely not the irritating. My favorite
daily moisturizer with some block is SPF forty five and
actually it's SPF fifty and it has u v A
and u v B the protection and it has green tea. Again,
(23:23):
I love green tea and then I give them some
I have a Dike cream, a day cream depending on
health pick. We wanted to be also in vitamins. The
goal is to nourish the skin, you know, great healthy
skin and not ard inness.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So where do they Where do people find that? If
they can, they order it online my products to be
sell them on the website. Yes, you can call any
ship fund give us the website just so we have that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It is plastics and Derm dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Awesome, all right, So that's where you need to go
if you have kids. And and I love that idea
of something that is really healthy, healthy that has vitamins
because I think that that's what they're really looking for.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They just don't realize it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So if we can kind of push them that direction
as parents, that's that's what we're here for. That Who
knew that we would be in a whole new world
of having to make sure our kids were putting the
right thing on their face.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But this is where we are.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I'm really I'm really glad that we had you
on today and you were able to share that with us.
Doctor Jody Levine, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Thank you so much for having me absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Thank you for joining me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (24:48):
Have a blessing.
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