June 17, 2024 • 47 mins
We’re back with Season 2, Episode 76 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague is joined by Taj Gibson to discuss playing college basketball at USC, the collapse of the Jimmy Butler Minnesota Timberwolves, playing for the New York Knicks, and much more! #Volume #Club
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I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. We in
a different location, out of town with the special guests.
To my left, introduce my man's last. To my far left,
my dog, but should be hearing out the prailes.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
How you nasty? Cool?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And let's get to a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I know we out of town. You know what I'm saying.
You don't catch that? Fine? You know they're working the forum.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's cool, it's late night.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Fuck it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't know if you're too familiar with his foot game,
but normally he got the black forces with the white
laces on. I know you know what I'm saying. You've
been around fly guy. Have you ever seen the black
forces with the white laces before California?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
A few times. I just knew it was a different
kind of dude. You just knew, like, oh man, you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Will be careful.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Of course, you.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Can't do what's out you're sixteen fifteen, fifteen fifteen. We'll
get your fourteen runner sidepect less. Introduce that niggas up.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Get to me. It's my right, crazy, my dog, I'm
not your young teag. How you what I'm chilling?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Uh, glad to go. Got my guy in the building. Hey,
it's lit, man. But it's cool to being Orlando, get
to see some of the guys. Man, we have an
experience every so it's cool for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Man. We got here in Orlando doing a little bit
of Lawd's work.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Got a special guest I left tenor ed one of
the coolest dudes that ever play in the NBA. Been
around a long time, great scenes, great stories, and everybody
speaks nothing but high respected this man. We got Tis
Gibson of the Bill and to appreciate you pulling up
on this big dogs.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Your fellas. It's a pleasure, man, been watching a lot
of episodes. I'm just waiting to see what you're going
to say today. Man, who the fucked up personal on
the show?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You watch it? Bro? You have me a little bit?
So is he like that?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
But being being around the Midwest y'all, y'all some of
the most coolest guys. Yeah, I forgot understand the temperament.
I've been around a long time, so I'll laugh I'll
take a joke, bro.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I ain't gonna make you pick.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's cool. He made the decision. It was he's well
prepared for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Listen, man, y'all got a crazy order story man. And
then we asked about you all your preps going to
Obviously you know what I'm saying, you went crazy in
high school. I want to fastward a little bit. And
that they look, you know, we're on the road. It
like be here this, get your posture together, get your postures.
Got some spreaders on today to take it out, Like
(03:43):
do you know this fuck locked in? Shout out to
the suite. You know what I'm saying. Once my time,
he was making a college decision, and y'all that's when
your first crossed pass. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, Tim Floyd was recruiting me at USC and Ti
was already there.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
O J.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Mayo was me and him was the same year Tiger
was there. I went to campus and they like, yeah,
everybody get a truck, had the big Boy expedition. I'm like,
you know they getting money. My Papa's like, you're not
going there. They do not do things about the book.
I was like, yeah, I need to be there. Had yeah,
(04:17):
had it already.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's like he's shining.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Whole time. I'm thinking they're cheap. I'm like, man, wake forest,
got it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
We got somebody. But what usc money now? Work for us?
Back then?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I mean eventually you know was taking care of.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The expeditions was fire back then? Yeah, he went to
six right, Yeah, that was it was late. He was
shun He was a living different one.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
He was.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I gotta ask y'all around that time period, what was
some cars that was like obviously it was all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We wish we could get them with. What was that car?
He was like, I gotta have that?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Or it was outside that was crazy because like back then,
the Leacoln Navigator was like the cold of shit art
for men.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I wanted the bubble Caprice ship bubble want of the
H was the H two, Yes, what I had that
your their vehicle?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I had that. I had the H two one. I
had a black one. I had an H three, Hummer
real one eat gas. But yeah, and the hoop sessions
was legit. And the mother fuckers that back seat laid
down in that house.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're gonna get some work done. You get some real
work done. Study room. Bro. Imagine this nigga slide. I
know you with the black forces, with the white laces
and the hummer. You don't know what type of time
he all. I know, I know for one he down
for whatever. Sure a good time whatever in the space.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Shout out to it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Whatever your situation is that I said back there the
six when niggas young, you could have borrowed it, brought.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Fact, we could have swapped it out. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It works, nasty, nasty, nasty work.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
How did you don't set the minkle for a little
bit more times? Got a ship going? I love what
we bought Hotel TODs Man. How you get to usc man?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Ship man Man. I was waiting around a long time.
I didn't know if I was going to even make
your college, to be honest with you, I was thinking
I was going to go to JC route, not that
damn pop. I was just gonna go straight to construction,
just try to just get a hustle, maybe do what
I gotta do with nick eats meats. But that's how
that's how most black men kind of figure it out.
(06:50):
When I was coming up, I was just like, damn,
like LA is a little different. My friends getting kicked
out of the house left and right, a lot of
single families. It was it was a little scary, but
I didn't But by the grace of God, that last
day I got I was just so happened to get
qualified and not think I was passing that sat.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I did not think I was getting those grades. I was.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
It's up when I got through, when I got in
that door. Man, it's just God just work work with
you on just so many different places. And faith was strong, man,
be honest with salute.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And it's like especially obviously were telling our age with this,
but to hear that time period how many tients of
people had to wait for those type of tests. But
it's just like a lot of them tests ain't even
built for us to even pass or be successful in
like not trying to be on a walk ship. But
that stuff wasn't designed for us and better ourselves. So
it's just like for you to have to wait to
that last decision. Yeah, that shit is crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That's tough. I'm glad it worked out for you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But like take it on the lighter side, like coming
out of high school, how much money you think you
would have got off there nil even though they paid you.
But don't hearry about that, but if you would have
been coming out right now.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Low board number at least five hundred fast five hundred
bro fact because we came up in a time where
dudes was really official, Like you look at it now,
it's a little bit of watered down and we kind
of contributed to that. But coming up, even looking back
on some of the highlights, I'm looking, I missed the
(08:20):
long shorts, just the small stuff about it. Like that's
what I love about our draft class, Like even though
we were all doing our own things, but we all love,
Like we always made sure we showed each other love.
And that's a fact class that's hard.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I damn got everybody Jersey and our draft class beside
uh Ricky Rubio coincidence, Nah, I actually, man, just never
get shout to Ricky you bro give up.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I take a Barcelona Jersey man for sure. That's right. Bro,
Show love, Ricky, show love. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The n il shit is so crazy because like working
with some of the top prospects going on now, like
they in high school seeing tickets before they even get
to college.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, and like it's so hard to keep them real then.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But at the same time, it's just like I'm making
generational money at sixteen, What you're really gonna tell me?
And now they get so much money off the social
media sites. It's a totally different ball game. I think
a lot of that Camaradi is lost because everything is legitimately.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
A business now. Yeah, true? How do you come back that?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Like as far as like keeping them like, obviously you're
talking to the young kids, like I'm already at this level,
but how do you keep the grounded? Obviously with you
coaching with the kids, Like how do y'all keep them
somewhat focused when it's so easy to get lost with
this shit?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Oh me, I just.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Try to It's so tough because I've never been in
that position to make money in high school, so I
don't even know how to navigate it for them. I
can speak from like the NBA experience, like try to
do this, try to do that. Like as far as
like saving and stuff, but like to get money at
seventeen eighteen, I don't. I can't help you because I
don't know what I would have did at sixteen with
(10:02):
five hundred thousand dollars. I know what I did working
at Mayer with five hundred dollars, and that shit was
gone them yours and forces was every weekend, So I
can't even imagine what they're doing, how they feel.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Hell yeah, my opinion. You gotta think about you gotta
look at the parents too. You gotta look at you
gotta zoom in on how the household is. Like half
of these kids not even checking that account. Moms and
dad or either just mom's got that account. He may
be doing little things, but the parents mostly getting all
the money. Then you got a crew he got. He
got his uncle, uncle, cousins, few guys, so he already
(10:38):
getting trained to be in that mindset of taking care
of the family already at seventeen. Before you know it,
he'd be twenty two, twenty three pot broke, trying to
play overseas, trying to do what you gotta do, and
nobody's teaching them nothing because once the money's gone, they
don't tell you that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Everybody falls back.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
The only could fall back off you off just telling
you telling them no, I can't got it right now.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But he don't know. He really messed up like that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, money go really quick, fellas, and I'm on
the back, in the back end of the bit, not
right now, and I'm just looking like, man, I got it.
I'm preparing for the next level, and I'm seeing a
lot of guys really not not there, like they really
still trying to get back into the league, wondering why
I don't want to be that kind of guy begging
(11:22):
like pick me, pick me up, please winden up. Why
can't I now just take it and keep it pushing?
This game is twisted for real. Yeah, now that's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Real, and even I mean, we ain't gonna fast for
too much.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But being a breadwin in your house if you get
drafted at twenty one twenty two is like you said
to be that at seventeen eighteen. That's an absurd amount
of pressure because they don't even know how taxes work yet.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
No, that's enough. That's tough.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Are you gonna I mean, you're gonna run through majority
of it. But hopefully they when they go to the
Universal that's giving them some type of financial literature class
or something at least, bro, Yeah, just give them. Somebody
got to have a course, bro.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's why I'm excited about what the NBAPA is doing
with this. The top one hundred camp. Yeah, they got
classes they gonna learn about that. But being around guys
like Todd who've been in the league for a fifteen
plus years.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's like they can give you that advice.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like I'm just saying that, somebody watching it gonna be like, Yeah,
that's that's valuable, you know what I mean?
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For sure, y'o.
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Speaker 4 (13:27):
We gotta get back to the college, though, man, because
y'all had a whip. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You was in there with who would have been probably
one of the biggest nil stars of all time, the
homie Jews.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That's my man.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Shout out to Jews, big fan of pie. Hey man, Yeah,
you almost with there, but y'all had some special man.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, man, shit out of that.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We had Jeff Man forget about it, But it worked
out how it worked out. Juice when he came, Like,
people don't understand how good he was, And I didn't
understand like money until just really got there. Like I
didn't understand like the real perception behind money, how to
be a pro. He's a he's a freshman, and I'm
(14:07):
really figuring out like this, the NBA lifestyle like this,
how you supposed to carry it like And I'm not ashamed,
I'm shaming of it to say that, because most because
I'm always gonna give gods his flower. I learned a
lot from juice, and a lot of dudes get learned.
A lot of Juice is giving out bread and making
sure a dude's ate. And people ain't gonna never tell
tell you.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That about Juice.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
They gonna say he came, he was nice, he got
the bread, he took some bread and left. No Juice
got that bread. And Juice was making sure everybow on
the team had money. Yeah, if he went somewhere, we
was with him. So like, you gotta look at the
whole spectrum of this game. This is got to take
what you can can, take your family with you. Constantly
smile because he suck his boy. I think he's trying
(14:48):
to pull you down every minute of the game. That's
a fact.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Now we sull love the juice for real. Like, so
it's good here you say that because it'd be a
lot of smut being put on his nine for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's dope though, But you had a chance to play
with them, I'd like to have like two like premier
shooting guards guards on your team. Like what was that like?
Like having OJ that next year Lamar come in and
it's like the crazy thing about it.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I came into a situation was Nick Young and I'm
like three people understand, like Swaggy, we had multiple scouts
in the gym. That's when I knew, like, all right,
if I got if I want to really work hard,
get your league, let me just try to just be
next to him. And I wasn't one of those guys.
I'm one of those teammates like I'm if if I
don't know something, I'm gonna ask you. In fact, I've
never been that kind of guy to be like nah,
(15:36):
I don't mess with him. I just try to show
as much life like him because she wanted you only
got twenty fives on the date man dropping like flies.
But first thing I had Nick Nick was the first
one to go lottery.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
O J came in.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm like, damn, we're coming in head, so now step
your shit up. You have a chance to go to
the league. O J you come in, he leaves, I'm like, yeah,
I'm like I'm ready to go. Man Like, it's not
that it's not that many girls left on, can't you
know everybody?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It's like the money is the money's not the same.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You're looking around your counterparts like I ain't feeling this,
and you look at your head coach like he's still
making three four million dollars a year. You starving something. Man,
I gotta get out of here and then tomorrow come.
But that's my brothers recipes to Pops and Pops. It
a lot for me is when I first moved to California,
I didn't know nobody. His dad from the first Old
(16:31):
Jesus like, if you ever need anything, call my phone,
if you if you ever feel a homesick, we here
you come to compting you good, like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And I always remember that to this day.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And then the here that he passed a few years ago,
it kind of it kind of rocked me to my corp.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Just shows me like.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You never know who's going to give you that words
of inspiration, you know what I'm saying. I would know
who's going to like really look out for you, because
this man is comptant. Like I'm from Brooklyn, I didn't
know nobody. I'm mismatching. I'm getting banged, gang banged.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
From time story. I'll let you go out like that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I can't go out like that's just category. That's my
personal business man.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, that's good that he pulled you like.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Young kids back home.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm you know them young kids, but it's it's tough, man,
Like I don't know how I'm here, bro, be honest
with call work broks Green.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Can't you people say they've been in the league fifteen years?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Bro? For real? For sure?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Bro in gym, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Each day all wake up and I still get that
phone calls. It's still like why me. I'm still saying
that to myself, Like I got the call early in
the year. I'm on the I'm really watching y'all like
I'm on the couch. I'm like, I don't know, Like
every player goes through that, like at one point after
you get cut, that right before the season starts.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You like I think I'm done. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
If you really work and you be like I don't know, like,
let me, let me, let me see, and then you
get that phone. Cause I'm like, man, like, am I
am I doing something crazy?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Like? Am I taking the spot that somebody needs?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
But you can't think like that because motherfucker told me
nobody gonna give a fuck about your mom and dad.
Am I gonna give about your kids? I'm not gonna
about your cousins. Do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Hunt, Yeah, take that Brad and run, smile, run, get
the bread and run.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Though I had most of the USC before USC, most
of my schools I want.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I wanted to stay on the West coast.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
By that time, I full hold on the West coast
U c l A Arizona, Texas teams that can run
Yukon teams on the east coast was Yukon Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I had a few, but my grades wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I had to really, I had to really take my
time and figure out what what team is really going
to like help me, like he was coming through making
sure I had tutors, making sure I had to get
through what I had to get through.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Slute taking care of I was supposed to nat and
I didn't put the two together.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But you was a SA football.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Was yeah, man, Yeah, it was a drugon naut So
we always you know, they took care of us.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
They took good care of it at that school. Man,
I'll tell you shout see me. I went to the
right school for me. But I ain't gonna lie. I
wanted to go there though. I was like that ship.
My dad was like, no, no way.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I know that was hard passing up on Yukon and
Syracuse and Saint John's And it was.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Tough because you look at Yukon, they had Stanley Robinson,
the rest of the peace.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Kurk Keller was wrong. I just forget about him.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, I seemed to be. They had a lot of bigs.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And then you got that grace period when you're waiting
for the signing and she was gonna come to your
house early in the morning on one of those days
on the draft doing a little recruiting process, and you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Oh, they don't really like me like that. They ain't
show up.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
So do you see who's really like, I'm here, I'm
here for you.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I was going through the
draft process. Got I asked, how was that? You know
what I'm saying, When you turn in the USA, and
now you get your big turn in the leg.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
How was that? And what was that first thing? You
went crazy? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Know you smart with your money, but what was that
first like I'm here now I'm about to make that
big boy purchase.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
First thing? Draft process was crazy. It was just like
I'm already in LA. Most of the women go to
my school that hang with all NBA players, so I'm
already really acimatetd to like the process. But that whole
draft possium was so special because I got to see
so many young men who never really had money really
coming to having money.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And it was a beatiful time seeing.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Terrence Swims, so many different guys, Juice, so many different
guys in that drag class, James Hardin's everybody just starting
to move and be their own person before they was
that person, and you like you're just seeing like, all right,
we're starting to get to this bread. Now you see,
all right, this is a big game. Now you see
grown women coming at you, you see cruise, you see
(21:23):
everybody just starting to form. And that's the process that
I wish I was a little bit more prepared for
because I brew a lot of Brad just having too
much fun, like just just not knowing what to expect,
buying change, trying to fit the image, like you're trying
to keep up the Joneses.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And it was a it was a great time back then.
It was no it was no Instagram too, so tricky.
He was tricking.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Hey man, we was filthy.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Listen, we was young. You ain't gotta die, you know,
financial literacy.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Times times, all right. I still remember that. I still
remember our rookie pictures bro in New York.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Damn that ship was. I was like, damn, I still
remember that short the biggest ship.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Still remember that day. I remember seeing.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Them, like, damn, we in the league, Him and James.
They had the boys jerseys and ship.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I was like that that's hard show. Damn the jersey
blue was weak.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They had, you know, Jordan wore the bulls like you know,
we're from that Midwest. I'm seeing them the name buy jersey.
I'm like, damn, that's all that's funny. I got to
ask both y'all this, both of y'all know play for
a couple of teams. What was your favorite jerseys? My
favorite jersey team? I was the Timberwolves. We had some
hard jersey and jersey is hard. The Green Ones, the
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Prench Joints was the Prince. The Gray Ones was tough.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I still got that. It was between probably Chicago and
I would say New York. Oh yeah, them my iconic jersey.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I just you know, just grew up watching them. Those
teams big too.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
What about you, oh.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Me ship, I probably on some real ship. When he
was with the Hawks, Mar you know, big bro to real.
He had the motherfucker Hawks jacket.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Man, I'm like your movie especially y Got You Got
the Flash one oh Man.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Still to me to this day, the Murder, the Flys jerseys,
it's still that. That that Penny jersey, the stripe Orlando
Joints still like and the flow I mean from that,
I got ahold of the flow Joe Pacers jerseys crazy,
but that that black pin stripe Orlando jerseys. Back in
the day when niggasd to start the joint, man, it
was just differently.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
My favorite jersey of all time is a little more
old on which the Clippers jersey. That's when he was
really a little more older.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
The one off the court. That's what like like you
and Lamar and the Hummer and the Black Force. Hell, man,
we can run that too. Man. That's a health of road.
That two man's nuts.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
But no, Sis, we got fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You talk about this season, Man, it was crazy, like
to see you playing this year and like, you know
what I'm saying, where you was at minutes when you
get in the game, you get in the game.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How was that?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Man for you saying you having it like I don't
know if I'm gonna do it this year. To you
playing thirty minutes, that.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
That blew my mind in a way because when I
got that phone call, first of all, I've seen the
plague get hurt, and I'm like, I know, I know this.
Who ain't gonna call me? I go to sleep, I
wake up. It's two it's three am. They're like, yo,
you got a yo. You're in shape, But it's like
(25:10):
a yo, you want shape, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm in shape. Can't be ready tomorrow, Like it's moving quick,
Like oh, I'm like all right, grace period.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
But you're gonna be gonna work you in, you good Pauls.
You're gonna come in, just take your time, and we're
gonna just work you in there and get you in
the swing of things with the team.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I'm like, I ain't no problem. You know, I'm on
the court. That's Tips brought. He don't care you like,
stay out there. I'm just like, yo, but you got
three young fresh body guys ready to go.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Keep your ass after up your think about Tips. I'm
gonna tell you one thing about it. He loved Tis.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
He liked me a lot. Abo a lot to say,
but Bro, for the rest of the like they.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh for sure, for sure, like, wan't go work for
New York if you want to Hooper you like him
and d bros. Tims love me too because I'm I
told him. Tims called me to go play for New
York and I I chose Boston.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
He was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I said, what are you We're gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
We're gonna be in this system, work this work what
I said, what was doing?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I should have went to New York. I had a
couple of coffee about it. I had Bro Damn, he said,
what are you doing? You know we're gonna be here.
I was like, you're right, damn.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
And and a lot of people understand the Minnesota our
first year, like people, people want age. Jeff really was
going through a lot of like I'm trying to tell you,
like he could never really fully like just rest. That's
how much we needed him, Like a lot of stuff contribute.
Like I'm telling you, like, without Jeff, we wouldn't have
got we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Once once Jimmy went down, once everybody start going hey, why,
that's what made TIPS really like, Nah, he different different,
That's what I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
He's different.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And that team, Like you said, if Jimmy don't get hurt,
obviously I still had a good But if Jimmy don't
get hurt, it's a totally because y'all was going crazy
that three.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, I'll tell that nigga. Before the season, I said, nah, bro,
you on one of them teams. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now when I seen when he told me was coming,
I'm like, oh ship, we got a squad.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I was just like, like, we're gonna get tied too.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It was hard bro to Jimmy, man, He's like, yo,
we at. I was like, I don't know, I think
I might go back to OK See give me some
so what you're doing, you know, come like we got
some bread you'll come, let me make tro tips will
call you. I was like, whatever, Jimmy and my brother
for life.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Real, Jimmy Real, I'm with Jimbo Bro, Jimbo Tie Jimmy Jamal.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
They made my first year and fucking Minnesota unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now my second year lucas their second year, Louki John
was in the hotel. John had over locker room.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Look, Luke and our team, we had a really good team.
But I mean, everybody want to get paid. You know
how I go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Everybody, Hey, that's all that really came down to. Everybody
just wanted to get paid.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
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Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. One thing I want
to say a story about Taj. What I knew he
was like different. Everybody loved Taj. If you're playing this team,
he's the most loving the locker room. He get along
with everybody one through fifteen.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So we had a meeting one time, and I ain't
gonna talk about what happened in the meeting.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
But he was like all I can remember you know,
I think everything funny.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
He was like, we're not doing that, Yo, Son, We're
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The New York came out, No, Son, we're not doing that,
and all I can hear de saying in the back
like yo, faund chill Fam, He's saying.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No Son, no, no, So we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
No, I said, I ain't.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Gonna tell what happened, but it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Them to talking and they never talked like Taji laughs joke,
but when they serious, like you listen, him and d
Rose was both like nah, fam, He like, no, Son,
I was crying.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I'm rolling on the ground life making it worse, you know,
not caring.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Mad.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I was like, ah, this ship is crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I know.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It was very y'all. Locker room was fucked up. Bro,
It was messed up at that time. But yeah, yeah,
really I really had a fire ass team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Nah, it was a fun team. Though it was fun.
It was what you think went around. You can speak
on it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Hey man.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Uh Now for far As, like the line of far
As guys getting money, everybody was young guys got paid first. Yeah,
we were trying to give They was trying to give
Jimmy some bread but it wasn't enough money. It wasn't
that kind of money. Jimmy was basically like, YO, showed
me like I'm the OUTFA show me. I'm the guy.
And respectfully he was. He was the guy that was
(31:47):
taking all the big shots sat guys up. But not
only that, he was chettas and dudes too. Yo, if
you do that again, I'm beating you up, like he
was on that's what you want. I just go with you, Jimmy,
you ain't. But then ever come like all right, that's
when when when that didn't happen, I said, oh man,
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but I thought it was it could still be men.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
But as the.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Year went on, that's when it got then that that
around that time, and Jimmy was like I'm ready to go.
I'm like, oh man, come on, Jimmy, we about to
come on. Man, we worked we got something good for
a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I'm trying to out.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, like if you pay attention to the game, like
you pay attention like who like.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Like gods were looking out for good, Like, yo, come on,
we got got you, bro.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So when I seen I'm like, well, oh yeah, we
got what like facts coach got the whole joint. We
got to win a few games, you know. Jimmy like,
I'm out of here. I don't want I don't want
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You for me were I you know, I ain't know.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
He wanted to swing on, come in. It was just
it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
But I'm just happy it worked out for him though,
because end of the day, all family, everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad y'all still got your relations.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Jimmy, Jimmy, that's my guy. We was I met. The
meeting is Bro. It's me Bro. Now I tell y'all
know how we do meetings. Imagine me trying to convince
somebody to stay somewhere, like come on, bro, he like,
I don't even give a fun.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I want to leave. You're gonna take me.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
What you want.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I'm done. I'm done. That's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I wanted to ask you, bro, when you got drafted,
like he said, being from Brooklyn, Like everybody want to
play in New York. You got drafted in Chicago, you're
playing Minnesota. You go to Okay see playing Minnesota. Then
you get a chance to go back home to New York. Like,
what's that light playing for the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Bro? Wake up angry? Every day time stop.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Nah.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I mean in a way like it's amazing, but far
as your temperament and being like every day you're waking up,
Like in Minnesota, you're not gonna see anybody. You're gonna
wake up. You're gonna just go get in your car.
It's freezing cold. You're not gonna see anybody. Gonna go
straight into the gym and to see your teammates, go home.
You ain't gonna see nobody. In New York, Man, my
first day, my first year there, I'm in the elevator
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every morning. I'm running into somebody every morning, like, what
the hell happened? Go to the truck you go get
a boat day, Go to the boat day. Across the street,
get a sandwich, garbage truck. Guys there at five am,
six am, they like, Yo, what happened?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yo? Yeah? Then you got people in the street regularly.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Y'all suck every day, but literally every day, damn good.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
That ain't no nah.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
You gotta wake up like every day I was waking up.
Even when we won. I couldn't be like, let's go.
I ought to be like I had to look at him,
like I had to look at it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I look at the fans, like you don't say nothing
to that type of time.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I was living many elevators. Just don't get me started.
My elevator was stocked literally twenty stops before we got
to it. But that's home, so I'm used to it.
So I'm like every person like, go to bag and
say something. So you gotta have some tough skins. Some
days you didn't want to deal with that ship.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I was trying to describe the people, like how it
is playing in the Garden, Like I know, not playing
for the next but when you go there, like you
want to have the best.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Game of your life, like the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Fans, the ring, and the environment like everybody fresh on
the court side, girls is everything you want and you
try to have your best game. And I can imagine
playing for the NIXT like y'all get everybody's best game.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, what's the best performance you've seen? Good question, bro,
good question.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
The garden. Yeah hm hmm.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
There's been so many, especially that fourth quarter, like get crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Hmmm that it's a tough question. They asked so many guys.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Uh, you've seen stuff go crazy.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Break the record on our court, okay, break the all
time record.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And he was crazy He was supposed to break that
record in Indianapolis, but he didn't any purpose in the
Garden before the man.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Listen, I've seen that man coming and hit that one
shot and just like like the Garden.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
One thing about the Garden is like it's different, like
they show you love if you're real, if you nice,
like some city that I don't care, but Garden is
gonna show your love. They gave him a race that
was one person.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Who else you say?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
And browno crazy and uh.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Uh Trey Young. Trey Young came gave us the business.
It made me fall. So I was like, yeah, I
had to give him his props, like, Yo, you would
have crossover tips. Was like, YO, were sending the double
team to help targe it. I said, no, don't send
the double team crazy cook me cooking. Then I look
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at him like my double team will be tough.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Guy. Time you thought you could go on trade he
with the Donkey Man. That crowded. That crowded have you feeling?
And you fool. I ain't gonna lie the best defenders ever.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, remember when we played Denver that year, Yo,
kids was going Craig the last game to go to
the playoffs, playing yo yok, just going crazy, nigga tips
time you got him, I said, damn, it's me.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And you with the picking roll.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Ship.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I was like, killing, no help get back.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
They throw it to him like I care you. I
was like, Gorge, I needn't hear her, Like, hey, my
like bro, picking.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Roll crazy, Bro, that's funny. See times take that challenge, Bro,
we get that win. Bro.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I was like, yeah, he man, that thing that people understand.
We caught them while they was still on the verge
of being like Pops and that next year, man, I
could it was nothing I could do. Just I'm just
I'm just standing here, but players like that, like I
just I'm just thankful to honestly get a chance to that. Seriously,
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get to stop him, because that next year he was
a whole different guys like him. Just I call the
guys like him alligators, tall big Paul's and they know
how to move. And then the first move they got
that spin and DeMarcus Cousins like certain guys when they
spin them shoulders hit you.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
You can't stop them. Better play.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
That's what I wanted to ask you. It was a
hell of a defender who was the toughest your toughest matchup.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Depends on what eras.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
The beginning of your career. Start getting Dirk KG.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
That's back when it was more like false physicality. It
had to be like at least two fortying up, power forward,
big Carlos Bulls of Josh Smith. It was always but
back then it was just unpredictable because you had different lineups,
Like God, it was so many forwards like Josh Smith.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Uh, Dirt KG. You got Stack. It's then you go west.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
You still got on the arm, you still got Pile,
then you got l O coming off the bench.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Everybody was at least two fortying up. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Then now this era is just like you got a
few bigs, but it's like the top three bigs. I
can say, like four bigs off off top of my
dome and be he pick and choose when he wanted
to destroy you. He can just really just kill you instantly.
But he's just like a fanessa til you get him mad.
But if you play it psychology like he all midy joker,
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he's just like I'm what, I'm sunning you and I'm
destroying you and I'm letting you know like no, you're
not my level. Different now at one point, I was like,
Cat is different. I tell him practice Cat.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Cat is like.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
He's different, like all the time for sure, graz But
people keep slat. I ain't gonna never slide on the mark.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
His cousins, no talents, his favorite player the best.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
That's my fast big pause. He like, if Roland have
got hurt and they wouldn't have played with him like
that in the NBA. I wish you would have signed
that contract in New Orleans. But he was a dog
bro that's twenty three and twelve.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Allegate that because I say I'm saying he at least
over too fifty. Yes, he got moves and you can't
stop that spin when an alligator grab you.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He's doing that spin. Take you underneath. It's over. That's
what he doing was right away.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
No.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I remember one time we played them in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
They had Anthony Davis and they had a Cuz right
so before the game were about to play, tips like
you got a d to Tajty Cat, you got cut
fuck with you? He said, you got cuz. He was
like the first person to get one foul. Switch Cat,
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Cuz get the ball first play Cat, just grabb me.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Do switch.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You even try to go to them. Look, cat, you
ain't gonna try. You know he had I didn't want
to with him. You seen that, maybe Marcus because everybody,
I'm like, yeah, switching figure something with them those U
(42:28):
K U K guy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Maybe they be having some little in the beef. I
was like, right when I switched on, uh like he
go to a d A, Yo, give me give you.
I'm like, Yo, what's the problem. I swear give me
the ball, Give me the ball. I'm like, oh, yeah,
they got beef.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But that's crazy. You know what we asked about. You
know what I'm saying. The performances in the garden. You
got to see a lot of girls this year call
some personal. JB went crazy this ship. How was that
to see like the energy like act in New York?
Like obviously they was decent that but this year to
have the season I had and to see him kill
the way he killed like that energy back in the city.
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I mean, even though we went out of this year,
we still beat them, But it was just dope to see.
How was that being on the team.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
I get to your team, that's my boys over there too,
him because like JJ, that's that's my brother man. He
can call me any time, any any place I'm running.
I'm not packing them back. I'm just pulling up. That's
that's how deep it is. But far as that JB,
like JB really came up under us, like I'm like
(43:35):
you look at you really dig deep into the TIBs thing,
like gods really got real relationships and like once you
break that barn, it's over.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
He gonna make sure you go.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But JB, I like, he's just a good I want
to I don't want to say kid because I know
him his whole life, but I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Great god man, like you want to celebrate guys.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Like that because he like I'm I'm I'm with them
for that few months and I'm just watching him like
I'm used to him being, uh, the younger kid like
being right now I'm around him as an adult.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Now I'm the older guy. And the crew. Now I'm
hanging out.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
We all going, we're going like and I'm seeing how
they move and I'm just like, yo, I want my
son to be like it for real.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
That's that's how we are right there.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, Like and to see him playing kill and like
to see his report he has everybody. It's like you
can't do nothing but supported. You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Buddy celebrated because he went crazy this ship y'all. Lucky Jr.
Wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Bro get Well soon came because Julius Runner was area.
I was getting sweat, bro Man.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
That's that's one thing about that Nick team. Like I
was like when I got there, like we we sucked
so bad. Like people like we was terrible. Bro Like
we we just didn't have it in order. We had RJ.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
We had it.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
We were just the city was just on us as
far as like just kicking us down, and they don't
understand the level of like how we really guys built
that up. And Julius was the main thing. Look at
that joint going. He need to get a lot more
praise than what he got. But everybody off. You gotta
be a crazy mother lover to go to the Knicks
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because you gotta be built different.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
That city is tough. That city is.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Tough, and you just gotta be You gotta be molded
in it. That's one thing about it. It's tough to play,
but once you through those those wolves and odds and
really figure it out, it's one of the best places
to play.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Man Sign not though I know we gotta get up
out of here.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Though.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
What's the dirtiest place in New York City? What's the
dirtiest city, Damn, the dirtiest city.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Do that?
Speaker 4 (45:40):
What'd you think?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Ship you from there?
Speaker 4 (45:44):
I want to hear you too, said I wanted to
see what Manhattan? Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm not gonna let you do the Bronx like that.
Hey man, some of the dirtiest places got the best food.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Do with you. When I say the Bronx, I say that,
I will say maybe you can say maybe the Bronx.
But the Bronx is the old school, real New York
if you think about it, like Brooklyn has changed, man,
and it's changed.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's repeater. Gruns is wrong.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
But legend, I funk with the legend with watching the Heights.
When you keep the breaks, that's the program. Some hopes,
(46:35):
that stupid forward.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh man, all we gotta get up out here before
we go. Man, you were actually slide. Man, we've got
going on next year. I know you've been doing some
kinds of pleasure, but no, we're gonna see you on
the court next year, man, God.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Will and we'll see man. Right now, I'm just top
one hundred camp learning how to coach these kids. Just
thank God, lead, thank God, leave me, and just trying
to have some much funds I can. We can't take
this for granted. Every day I wake up now, I'm
just trying to just smile, man, because I did not
think I was going to be here.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
So if I get the call, I'm calling you off
for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
For sure, my dog man, we're gonna have to do
this again. Man, had too much fun. Man, We will
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I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells. We in
a different location, out of town with the special guests.
To my left, introduce my man's last. To my far left,
my dog, but should be hearing out the prailes.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
How you nasty? Cool?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And let's get to a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I know we out of town. You know what I'm saying.
You don't catch that? Fine? You know they're working the forum.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's cool, it's late night.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Fuck it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't know if you're too familiar with his foot game,
but normally he got the black forces with the white
laces on. I know you know what I'm saying. You've
been around fly guy. Have you ever seen the black
forces with the white laces before California?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
A few times. I just knew it was a different
kind of dude. You just knew, like, oh man, you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Will be careful.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Of course, you.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Can't do what's out you're sixteen fifteen, fifteen fifteen. We'll
get your fourteen runner sidepect less. Introduce that niggas up.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Get to me. It's my right, crazy, my dog, I'm
not your young teag. How you what I'm chilling?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Uh, glad to go. Got my guy in the building. Hey,
it's lit, man. But it's cool to being Orlando, get
to see some of the guys. Man, we have an
experience every so it's cool for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Man. We got here in Orlando doing a little bit
of Lawd's work.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Got a special guest I left tenor ed one of
the coolest dudes that ever play in the NBA. Been
around a long time, great scenes, great stories, and everybody
speaks nothing but high respected this man. We got Tis
Gibson of the Bill and to appreciate you pulling up
on this big dogs.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Your fellas. It's a pleasure, man, been watching a lot
of episodes. I'm just waiting to see what you're going
to say today. Man, who the fucked up personal on
the show?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You watch it? Bro? You have me a little bit?
So is he like that?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
But being being around the Midwest y'all, y'all some of
the most coolest guys. Yeah, I forgot understand the temperament.
I've been around a long time, so I'll laugh I'll
take a joke, bro.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I ain't gonna make you pick.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's cool. He made the decision. It was he's well
prepared for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Listen, man, y'all got a crazy order story man. And
then we asked about you all your preps going to
Obviously you know what I'm saying, you went crazy in
high school. I want to fastward a little bit. And
that they look, you know, we're on the road. It
like be here this, get your posture together, get your postures.
Got some spreaders on today to take it out, Like
(03:43):
do you know this fuck locked in? Shout out to
the suite. You know what I'm saying. Once my time,
he was making a college decision, and y'all that's when
your first crossed pass. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, Tim Floyd was recruiting me at USC and Ti
was already there.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
O J.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Mayo was me and him was the same year Tiger
was there. I went to campus and they like, yeah,
everybody get a truck, had the big Boy expedition. I'm like,
you know they getting money. My Papa's like, you're not
going there. They do not do things about the book.
I was like, yeah, I need to be there. Had yeah,
(04:17):
had it already.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's like he's shining.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Whole time. I'm thinking they're cheap. I'm like, man, wake forest,
got it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
We got somebody. But what usc money now? Work for us?
Back then?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Nah?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I mean eventually you know was taking care of.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The expeditions was fire back then? Yeah, he went to
six right, Yeah, that was it was late. He was
shun He was a living different one.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
He was.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I gotta ask y'all around that time period, what was
some cars that was like obviously it was all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We wish we could get them with. What was that car?
He was like, I gotta have that?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Or it was outside that was crazy because like back then,
the Leacoln Navigator was like the cold of shit art
for men.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I wanted the bubble Caprice ship bubble want of the
H was the H two, Yes, what I had that
your their vehicle?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I had that. I had the H two one. I
had a black one. I had an H three, Hummer
real one eat gas. But yeah, and the hoop sessions
was legit. And the mother fuckers that back seat laid
down in that house.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're gonna get some work done. You get some real
work done. Study room. Bro. Imagine this nigga slide. I
know you with the black forces, with the white laces
and the hummer. You don't know what type of time
he all. I know, I know for one he down
for whatever. Sure a good time whatever in the space.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Shout out to it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Whatever your situation is that I said back there the
six when niggas young, you could have borrowed it, brought.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Fact, we could have swapped it out. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It works, nasty, nasty, nasty work.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
How did you don't set the minkle for a little
bit more times? Got a ship going? I love what
we bought Hotel TODs Man. How you get to usc man?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Ship man Man. I was waiting around a long time.
I didn't know if I was going to even make
your college, to be honest with you, I was thinking
I was going to go to JC route, not that
damn pop. I was just gonna go straight to construction,
just try to just get a hustle, maybe do what
I gotta do with nick eats meats. But that's how
that's how most black men kind of figure it out.
(06:50):
When I was coming up, I was just like, damn,
like LA is a little different. My friends getting kicked
out of the house left and right, a lot of
single families. It was it was a little scary, but
I didn't But by the grace of God, that last
day I got I was just so happened to get
qualified and not think I was passing that sat.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I did not think I was getting those grades. I was.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
It's up when I got through, when I got in
that door. Man, it's just God just work work with
you on just so many different places. And faith was strong, man,
be honest with salute.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And it's like especially obviously were telling our age with this,
but to hear that time period how many tients of
people had to wait for those type of tests. But
it's just like a lot of them tests ain't even
built for us to even pass or be successful in
like not trying to be on a walk ship. But
that stuff wasn't designed for us and better ourselves. So
it's just like for you to have to wait to
that last decision. Yeah, that shit is crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That's tough. I'm glad it worked out for you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But like take it on the lighter side, like coming
out of high school, how much money you think you
would have got off there nil even though they paid you.
But don't hearry about that, but if you would have
been coming out right now.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Low board number at least five hundred fast five hundred
bro fact because we came up in a time where
dudes was really official, Like you look at it now,
it's a little bit of watered down and we kind
of contributed to that. But coming up, even looking back
on some of the highlights, I'm looking, I missed the
(08:20):
long shorts, just the small stuff about it. Like that's
what I love about our draft class, Like even though
we were all doing our own things, but we all love,
Like we always made sure we showed each other love.
And that's a fact class that's hard.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I damn got everybody Jersey and our draft class beside
uh Ricky Rubio coincidence, Nah, I actually, man, just never
get shout to Ricky you bro give up.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I take a Barcelona Jersey man for sure. That's right. Bro,
Show love, Ricky, show love. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The n il shit is so crazy because like working
with some of the top prospects going on now, like
they in high school seeing tickets before they even get
to college.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, and like it's so hard to keep them real then.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But at the same time, it's just like I'm making
generational money at sixteen, What you're really gonna tell me?
And now they get so much money off the social
media sites. It's a totally different ball game. I think
a lot of that Camaradi is lost because everything is legitimately.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
A business now. Yeah, true? How do you come back that?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Like as far as like keeping them like, obviously you're
talking to the young kids, like I'm already at this level,
but how do you keep the grounded? Obviously with you
coaching with the kids, Like how do y'all keep them
somewhat focused when it's so easy to get lost with
this shit?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Oh me, I just.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Try to It's so tough because I've never been in
that position to make money in high school, so I
don't even know how to navigate it for them. I
can speak from like the NBA experience, like try to
do this, try to do that. Like as far as
like saving and stuff, but like to get money at
seventeen eighteen, I don't. I can't help you because I
don't know what I would have did at sixteen with
(10:02):
five hundred thousand dollars. I know what I did working
at Mayer with five hundred dollars, and that shit was
gone them yours and forces was every weekend, So I
can't even imagine what they're doing, how they feel.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Hell yeah, my opinion. You gotta think about you gotta
look at the parents too. You gotta look at you
gotta zoom in on how the household is. Like half
of these kids not even checking that account. Moms and
dad or either just mom's got that account. He may
be doing little things, but the parents mostly getting all
the money. Then you got a crew he got. He
got his uncle, uncle, cousins, few guys, so he already
(10:38):
getting trained to be in that mindset of taking care
of the family already at seventeen. Before you know it,
he'd be twenty two, twenty three pot broke, trying to
play overseas, trying to do what you gotta do, and
nobody's teaching them nothing because once the money's gone, they
don't tell you that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Everybody falls back.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
The only could fall back off you off just telling
you telling them no, I can't got it right now.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But he don't know. He really messed up like that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, money go really quick, fellas, and I'm on
the back, in the back end of the bit, not
right now, and I'm just looking like, man, I got it.
I'm preparing for the next level, and I'm seeing a
lot of guys really not not there, like they really
still trying to get back into the league, wondering why
I don't want to be that kind of guy begging
(11:22):
like pick me, pick me up, please winden up. Why
can't I now just take it and keep it pushing?
This game is twisted for real. Yeah, now that's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Real, and even I mean, we ain't gonna fast for
too much.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But being a breadwin in your house if you get
drafted at twenty one twenty two is like you said
to be that at seventeen eighteen. That's an absurd amount
of pressure because they don't even know how taxes work yet.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
No, that's enough. That's tough.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Are you gonna I mean, you're gonna run through majority
of it. But hopefully they when they go to the
Universal that's giving them some type of financial literature class
or something at least, bro, Yeah, just give them. Somebody
got to have a course, bro.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's why I'm excited about what the NBAPA is doing
with this. The top one hundred camp. Yeah, they got
classes they gonna learn about that. But being around guys
like Todd who've been in the league for a fifteen
plus years.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's like they can give you that advice.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like I'm just saying that, somebody watching it gonna be like, Yeah,
that's that's valuable, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4 (13:27):
We gotta get back to the college, though, man, because
y'all had a whip. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You was in there with who would have been probably
one of the biggest nil stars of all time, the
homie Jews.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That's my man.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Shout out to Jews, big fan of pie. Hey man, Yeah,
you almost with there, but y'all had some special man.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, man, shit out of that.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We had Jeff Man forget about it, But it worked
out how it worked out. Juice when he came, Like,
people don't understand how good he was, And I didn't
understand like money until just really got there. Like I
didn't understand like the real perception behind money, how to
be a pro. He's a he's a freshman, and I'm
(14:07):
really figuring out like this, the NBA lifestyle like this,
how you supposed to carry it like And I'm not ashamed,
I'm shaming of it to say that, because most because
I'm always gonna give gods his flower. I learned a
lot from juice, and a lot of dudes get learned.
A lot of Juice is giving out bread and making
sure a dude's ate. And people ain't gonna never tell
tell you.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That about Juice.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
They gonna say he came, he was nice, he got
the bread, he took some bread and left. No Juice
got that bread. And Juice was making sure everybow on
the team had money. Yeah, if he went somewhere, we
was with him. So like, you gotta look at the
whole spectrum of this game. This is got to take
what you can can, take your family with you. Constantly
smile because he suck his boy. I think he's trying
(14:48):
to pull you down every minute of the game. That's
a fact.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Now we sull love the juice for real. Like, so
it's good here you say that because it'd be a
lot of smut being put on his nine for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's dope though, But you had a chance to play
with them, I'd like to have like two like premier
shooting guards guards on your team. Like what was that like?
Like having OJ that next year Lamar come in and
it's like the crazy thing about it.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I came into a situation was Nick Young and I'm
like three people understand, like Swaggy, we had multiple scouts
in the gym. That's when I knew, like, all right,
if I got if I want to really work hard,
get your league, let me just try to just be
next to him. And I wasn't one of those guys.
I'm one of those teammates like I'm if if I
don't know something, I'm gonna ask you. In fact, I've
never been that kind of guy to be like nah,
(15:36):
I don't mess with him. I just try to show
as much life like him because she wanted you only
got twenty fives on the date man dropping like flies.
But first thing I had Nick Nick was the first
one to go lottery.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
O J came in.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm like, damn, we're coming in head, so now step
your shit up. You have a chance to go to
the league. O J you come in, he leaves, I'm like, yeah,
I'm like I'm ready to go. Man Like, it's not
that it's not that many girls left on, can't you
know everybody?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It's like the money is the money's not the same.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You're looking around your counterparts like I ain't feeling this,
and you look at your head coach like he's still
making three four million dollars a year. You starving something. Man,
I gotta get out of here and then tomorrow come.
But that's my brothers recipes to Pops and Pops. It
a lot for me is when I first moved to California,
I didn't know nobody. His dad from the first Old
(16:31):
Jesus like, if you ever need anything, call my phone,
if you if you ever feel a homesick, we here
you come to compting you good, like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And I always remember that to this day.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And then the here that he passed a few years ago,
it kind of it kind of rocked me to my corp.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Just shows me like.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You never know who's going to give you that words
of inspiration, you know what I'm saying. I would know
who's going to like really look out for you, because
this man is comptant. Like I'm from Brooklyn, I didn't
know nobody. I'm mismatching. I'm getting banged, gang banged.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
From time story. I'll let you go out like that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I can't go out like that's just category. That's my
personal business man.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, that's good that he pulled you like.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Young kids back home.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm you know them young kids, but it's it's tough, man,
Like I don't know how I'm here, bro, be honest
with call work broks Green.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Can't you people say they've been in the league fifteen years?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Bro? For real? For sure?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Bro in gym, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Each day all wake up and I still get that
phone calls. It's still like why me. I'm still saying
that to myself, Like I got the call early in
the year. I'm on the I'm really watching y'all like
I'm on the couch. I'm like, I don't know, Like
every player goes through that, like at one point after
you get cut, that right before the season starts.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You like I think I'm done. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
If you really work and you be like I don't know, like,
let me, let me, let me see, and then you
get that phone. Cause I'm like, man, like, am I
am I doing something crazy?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Like? Am I taking the spot that somebody needs?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
But you can't think like that because motherfucker told me
nobody gonna give a fuck about your mom and dad.
Am I gonna give about your kids? I'm not gonna
about your cousins. Do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Hunt, Yeah, take that Brad and run, smile, run, get
the bread and run.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Though I had most of the USC before USC, most
of my schools I want.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I wanted to stay on the West coast.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
By that time, I full hold on the West coast
U c l A Arizona, Texas teams that can run
Yukon teams on the east coast was Yukon Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I had a few, but my grades wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I had to really, I had to really take my
time and figure out what what team is really going
to like help me, like he was coming through making
sure I had tutors, making sure I had to get
through what I had to get through.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Slute taking care of I was supposed to nat and
I didn't put the two together.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But you was a SA football.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Was yeah, man, Yeah, it was a drugon naut So
we always you know, they took care of us.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
They took good care of it at that school. Man,
I'll tell you shout see me. I went to the
right school for me. But I ain't gonna lie. I
wanted to go there though. I was like that ship.
My dad was like, no, no way.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I know that was hard passing up on Yukon and
Syracuse and Saint John's And it was.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Tough because you look at Yukon, they had Stanley Robinson,
the rest of the peace.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Kurk Keller was wrong. I just forget about him.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, I seemed to be. They had a lot of bigs.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And then you got that grace period when you're waiting
for the signing and she was gonna come to your
house early in the morning on one of those days
on the draft doing a little recruiting process, and you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Oh, they don't really like me like that. They ain't
show up.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
So do you see who's really like, I'm here, I'm
here for you.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I was going through the
draft process. Got I asked, how was that? You know
what I'm saying, When you turn in the USA, and
now you get your big turn in the leg.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
How was that? And what was that first thing? You
went crazy? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Know you smart with your money, but what was that
first like I'm here now I'm about to make that
big boy purchase.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
First thing? Draft process was crazy. It was just like
I'm already in LA. Most of the women go to
my school that hang with all NBA players, so I'm
already really acimatetd to like the process. But that whole
draft possium was so special because I got to see
so many young men who never really had money really
coming to having money.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And it was a beatiful time seeing.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Terrence Swims, so many different guys, Juice, so many different
guys in that drag class, James Hardin's everybody just starting
to move and be their own person before they was
that person, and you like you're just seeing like, all right,
we're starting to get to this bread. Now you see,
all right, this is a big game. Now you see
grown women coming at you, you see cruise, you see
(21:23):
everybody just starting to form. And that's the process that
I wish I was a little bit more prepared for
because I brew a lot of Brad just having too
much fun, like just just not knowing what to expect,
buying change, trying to fit the image, like you're trying
to keep up the Joneses.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And it was a it was a great time back then.
It was no it was no Instagram too, so tricky.
He was tricking.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Hey man, we was filthy.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Listen, we was young. You ain't gotta die, you know,
financial literacy.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Times times, all right. I still remember that. I still
remember our rookie pictures bro in New York.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Damn that ship was. I was like, damn, I still
remember that short the biggest ship.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Still remember that day. I remember seeing.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Them, like, damn, we in the league, Him and James.
They had the boys jerseys and ship.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I was like that that's hard show. Damn the jersey
blue was weak.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
They had, you know, Jordan wore the bulls like you know,
we're from that Midwest. I'm seeing them the name buy jersey.
I'm like, damn, that's all that's funny. I got to
ask both y'all this, both of y'all know play for
a couple of teams. What was your favorite jerseys? My
favorite jersey team? I was the Timberwolves. We had some
hard jersey and jersey is hard. The Green Ones, the
(23:06):
Prench Joints was the Prince. The Gray Ones was tough.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I still got that. It was between probably Chicago and
I would say New York. Oh yeah, them my iconic jersey.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I just you know, just grew up watching them. Those
teams big too.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
What about you, oh.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Me ship, I probably on some real ship. When he
was with the Hawks, Mar you know, big bro to real.
He had the motherfucker Hawks jacket.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Man, I'm like your movie especially y Got You Got
the Flash one oh Man.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Still to me to this day, the Murder, the Flys jerseys,
it's still that. That that Penny jersey, the stripe Orlando
Joints still like and the flow I mean from that,
I got ahold of the flow Joe Pacers jerseys crazy,
but that that black pin stripe Orlando jerseys. Back in
the day when niggasd to start the joint, man, it
was just differently.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
My favorite jersey of all time is a little more
old on which the Clippers jersey. That's when he was
really a little more older.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
The one off the court. That's what like like you
and Lamar and the Hummer and the Black Force. Hell, man,
we can run that too. Man. That's a health of road.
That two man's nuts.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
But no, Sis, we got fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You talk about this season, Man, it was crazy, like
to see you playing this year and like, you know
what I'm saying, where you was at minutes when you
get in the game, you get in the game.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How was that?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Man for you saying you having it like I don't
know if I'm gonna do it this year. To you
playing thirty minutes, that.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
That blew my mind in a way because when I
got that phone call, first of all, I've seen the
plague get hurt, and I'm like, I know, I know this.
Who ain't gonna call me? I go to sleep, I
wake up. It's two it's three am. They're like, yo,
you got a yo. You're in shape, But it's like
(25:10):
a yo, you want shape, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm in shape. Can't be ready tomorrow, Like it's moving quick,
Like oh, I'm like all right, grace period.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
But you're gonna be gonna work you in, you good Pauls.
You're gonna come in, just take your time, and we're
gonna just work you in there and get you in
the swing of things with the team.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I'm like, I ain't no problem. You know, I'm on
the court. That's Tips brought. He don't care you like,
stay out there. I'm just like, yo, but you got
three young fresh body guys ready to go.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Keep your ass after up your think about Tips. I'm
gonna tell you one thing about it. He loved Tis.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
He liked me a lot. Abo a lot to say,
but Bro, for the rest of the like they.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh for sure, for sure, like, wan't go work for
New York if you want to Hooper you like him
and d bros. Tims love me too because I'm I
told him. Tims called me to go play for New
York and I I chose Boston.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
He was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I said, what are you We're gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
We're gonna be in this system, work this work what
I said, what was doing?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I should have went to New York. I had a
couple of coffee about it. I had Bro Damn, he said,
what are you doing? You know we're gonna be here.
I was like, you're right, damn.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
And and a lot of people understand the Minnesota our
first year, like people, people want age. Jeff really was
going through a lot of like I'm trying to tell you,
like he could never really fully like just rest. That's
how much we needed him, Like a lot of stuff contribute.
Like I'm telling you, like, without Jeff, we wouldn't have
got we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Once once Jimmy went down, once everybody start going hey, why,
that's what made TIPS really like, Nah, he different different,
That's what I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
He's different.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And that team, Like you said, if Jimmy don't get hurt,
obviously I still had a good But if Jimmy don't
get hurt, it's a totally because y'all was going crazy
that three.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, I'll tell that nigga. Before the season, I said, nah, bro,
you on one of them teams. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now when I seen when he told me was coming,
I'm like, oh ship, we got a squad.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I was just like, like, we're gonna get tied too.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It was hard bro to Jimmy, man, He's like, yo,
we at. I was like, I don't know, I think
I might go back to OK See give me some
so what you're doing, you know, come like we got
some bread you'll come, let me make tro tips will
call you. I was like, whatever, Jimmy and my brother
for life.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Real, Jimmy Real, I'm with Jimbo Bro, Jimbo Tie Jimmy Jamal.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
They made my first year and fucking Minnesota unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now my second year lucas their second year, Louki John
was in the hotel. John had over locker room.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Look, Luke and our team, we had a really good team.
But I mean, everybody want to get paid. You know
how I go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Everybody, Hey, that's all that really came down to. Everybody
just wanted to get paid.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
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Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. One thing I want
to say a story about Taj. What I knew he
was like different. Everybody loved Taj. If you're playing this team,
he's the most loving the locker room. He get along
with everybody one through fifteen.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So we had a meeting one time, and I ain't
gonna talk about what happened in the meeting.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
But he was like all I can remember you know,
I think everything funny.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
He was like, we're not doing that, Yo, Son, We're
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The New York came out, No, Son, we're not doing that,
and all I can hear de saying in the back
like yo, faund chill Fam, He's saying.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No Son, no, no, So we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
No, I said, I ain't.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Gonna tell what happened, but it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Them to talking and they never talked like Taji laughs joke,
but when they serious, like you listen, him and d
Rose was both like nah, fam, He like, no, Son,
I was crying.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I'm rolling on the ground life making it worse, you know,
not caring.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Mad.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I was like, ah, this ship is crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I know.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It was very y'all. Locker room was fucked up. Bro,
It was messed up at that time. But yeah, yeah,
really I really had a fire ass team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Nah, it was a fun team. Though it was fun.
It was what you think went around. You can speak
on it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Hey man.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Uh Now for far As, like the line of far
As guys getting money, everybody was young guys got paid first. Yeah,
we were trying to give They was trying to give
Jimmy some bread but it wasn't enough money. It wasn't
that kind of money. Jimmy was basically like, YO, showed
me like I'm the OUTFA show me. I'm the guy.
And respectfully he was. He was the guy that was
(31:47):
taking all the big shots sat guys up. But not
only that, he was chettas and dudes too. Yo, if
you do that again, I'm beating you up, like he
was on that's what you want. I just go with you, Jimmy,
you ain't. But then ever come like all right, that's
when when when that didn't happen, I said, oh man,
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but I thought it was it could still be men.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
But as the.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Year went on, that's when it got then that that
around that time, and Jimmy was like I'm ready to go.
I'm like, oh man, come on, Jimmy, we about to
come on. Man, we worked we got something good for
a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I'm trying to out.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, like if you pay attention to the game, like
you pay attention like who like.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Like gods were looking out for good, Like, yo, come on,
we got got you, bro.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
So when I seen I'm like, well, oh yeah, we
got what like facts coach got the whole joint. We
got to win a few games, you know. Jimmy like,
I'm out of here. I don't want I don't want
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You for me were I you know, I ain't know.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
He wanted to swing on, come in. It was just
it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
But I'm just happy it worked out for him though,
because end of the day, all family, everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad y'all still got your relations.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Jimmy, Jimmy, that's my guy. We was I met. The
meeting is Bro. It's me Bro. Now I tell y'all
know how we do meetings. Imagine me trying to convince
somebody to stay somewhere, like come on, bro, he like,
I don't even give a fun.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I want to leave. You're gonna take me.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
What you want.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I'm done. I'm done. That's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I wanted to ask you, bro, when you got drafted,
like he said, being from Brooklyn, Like everybody want to
play in New York. You got drafted in Chicago, you're
playing Minnesota. You go to Okay see playing Minnesota. Then
you get a chance to go back home to New York. Like,
what's that light playing for the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Bro? Wake up angry? Every day time stop.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Nah.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I mean in a way like it's amazing, but far
as your temperament and being like every day you're waking up,
Like in Minnesota, you're not gonna see anybody. You're gonna
wake up. You're gonna just go get in your car.
It's freezing cold. You're not gonna see anybody. Gonna go
straight into the gym and to see your teammates, go home.
You ain't gonna see nobody. In New York, Man, my
first day, my first year there, I'm in the elevator
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every morning. I'm running into somebody every morning, like, what
the hell happened? Go to the truck you go get
a boat day, Go to the boat day. Across the street,
get a sandwich, garbage truck. Guys there at five am,
six am, they like, Yo, what happened?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yo? Yeah? Then you got people in the street regularly.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Y'all suck every day, but literally every day, damn good.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
That ain't no nah.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
You gotta wake up like every day I was waking up.
Even when we won. I couldn't be like, let's go.
I ought to be like I had to look at him,
like I had to look at it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I look at the fans, like you don't say nothing
to that type of time.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I was living many elevators. Just don't get me started.
My elevator was stocked literally twenty stops before we got
to it. But that's home, so I'm used to it.
So I'm like every person like, go to bag and
say something. So you gotta have some tough skins. Some
days you didn't want to deal with that ship.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I was trying to describe the people, like how it
is playing in the Garden, Like I know, not playing
for the next but when you go there, like you
want to have the best.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Game of your life, like the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Fans, the ring, and the environment like everybody fresh on
the court side, girls is everything you want and you
try to have your best game. And I can imagine
playing for the NIXT like y'all get everybody's best game.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, what's the best performance you've seen? Good question, bro,
good question.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
The garden. Yeah hm hmm.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
There's been so many, especially that fourth quarter, like get crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Hmmm that it's a tough question. They asked so many guys.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Uh, you've seen stuff go crazy.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Break the record on our court, okay, break the all
time record.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And he was crazy He was supposed to break that
record in Indianapolis, but he didn't any purpose in the
Garden before the man.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Listen, I've seen that man coming and hit that one
shot and just like like the Garden.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
One thing about the Garden is like it's different, like
they show you love if you're real, if you nice,
like some city that I don't care, but Garden is
gonna show your love. They gave him a race that
was one person.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Who else you say?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
And browno crazy and uh.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Uh Trey Young. Trey Young came gave us the business.
It made me fall. So I was like, yeah, I
had to give him his props, like, Yo, you would
have crossover tips. Was like, YO, were sending the double
team to help targe it. I said, no, don't send
the double team crazy cook me cooking. Then I look
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at him like my double team will be tough.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Guy. Time you thought you could go on trade he
with the Donkey Man. That crowded. That crowded have you feeling?
And you fool. I ain't gonna lie the best defenders ever.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, remember when we played Denver that year, Yo,
kids was going Craig the last game to go to
the playoffs, playing yo yok, just going crazy, nigga tips
time you got him, I said, damn, it's me.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And you with the picking roll.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Ship.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I was like, killing, no help get back.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
They throw it to him like I care you. I
was like, Gorge, I needn't hear her, Like, hey, my
like bro, picking.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Roll crazy, Bro, that's funny. See times take that challenge, Bro,
we get that win. Bro.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I was like, yeah, he man, that thing that people understand.
We caught them while they was still on the verge
of being like Pops and that next year, man, I
could it was nothing I could do. Just I'm just
I'm just standing here, but players like that, like I
just I'm just thankful to honestly get a chance to that. Seriously,
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get to stop him, because that next year he was
a whole different guys like him. Just I call the
guys like him alligators, tall big Paul's and they know
how to move. And then the first move they got
that spin and DeMarcus Cousins like certain guys when they
spin them shoulders hit you.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
You can't stop them. Better play.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
That's what I wanted to ask you. It was a
hell of a defender who was the toughest your toughest matchup.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Depends on what eras.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
The beginning of your career. Start getting Dirk KG.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
That's back when it was more like false physicality. It
had to be like at least two fortying up, power forward,
big Carlos Bulls of Josh Smith. It was always but
back then it was just unpredictable because you had different lineups,
Like God, it was so many forwards like Josh Smith.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Uh, Dirt KG. You got Stack. It's then you go west.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
You still got on the arm, you still got Pile,
then you got l O coming off the bench.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Everybody was at least two fortying up. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Then now this era is just like you got a
few bigs, but it's like the top three bigs. I
can say, like four bigs off off top of my
dome and be he pick and choose when he wanted
to destroy you. He can just really just kill you instantly.
But he's just like a fanessa til you get him mad.
But if you play it psychology like he all midy joker,
(40:36):
he's just like I'm what, I'm sunning you and I'm
destroying you and I'm letting you know like no, you're
not my level. Different now at one point, I was like,
Cat is different. I tell him practice Cat.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Cat is like.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
He's different, like all the time for sure, graz But
people keep slat. I ain't gonna never slide on the mark.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
His cousins, no talents, his favorite player the best.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
That's my fast big pause. He like, if Roland have
got hurt and they wouldn't have played with him like
that in the NBA. I wish you would have signed
that contract in New Orleans. But he was a dog
bro that's twenty three and twelve.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Allegate that because I say I'm saying he at least
over too fifty. Yes, he got moves and you can't
stop that spin when an alligator grab you.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He's doing that spin. Take you underneath. It's over. That's
what he doing was right away.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
No.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I remember one time we played them in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
They had Anthony Davis and they had a Cuz right
so before the game were about to play, tips like
you got a d to Tajty Cat, you got cut
fuck with you? He said, you got cuz. He was
like the first person to get one foul. Switch Cat,
(41:56):
Cuz get the ball first play Cat, just grabb me.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Do switch.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You even try to go to them. Look, cat, you
ain't gonna try. You know he had I didn't want
to with him. You seen that, maybe Marcus because everybody,
I'm like, yeah, switching figure something with them those U
(42:28):
K U K guy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Maybe they be having some little in the beef. I
was like, right when I switched on, uh like he
go to a d A, Yo, give me give you.
I'm like, Yo, what's the problem. I swear give me
the ball, Give me the ball. I'm like, oh, yeah,
they got beef.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
But that's crazy. You know what we asked about. You
know what I'm saying. The performances in the garden. You
got to see a lot of girls this year call
some personal. JB went crazy this ship. How was that
to see like the energy like act in New York?
Like obviously they was decent that but this year to
have the season I had and to see him kill
the way he killed like that energy back in the city.
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I mean, even though we went out of this year,
we still beat them, But it was just dope to see.
How was that being on the team.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
I get to your team, that's my boys over there too,
him because like JJ, that's that's my brother man. He
can call me any time, any any place I'm running.
I'm not packing them back. I'm just pulling up. That's
that's how deep it is. But far as that JB,
like JB really came up under us, like I'm like
(43:35):
you look at you really dig deep into the TIBs thing,
like gods really got real relationships and like once you
break that barn, it's over.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
He gonna make sure you go.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But JB, I like, he's just a good I want
to I don't want to say kid because I know
him his whole life, but I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Great god man, like you want to celebrate guys.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Like that because he like I'm I'm I'm with them
for that few months and I'm just watching him like
I'm used to him being, uh, the younger kid like
being right now I'm around him as an adult.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Now I'm the older guy. And the crew. Now I'm
hanging out.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
We all going, we're going like and I'm seeing how
they move and I'm just like, yo, I want my
son to be like it for real.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
That's that's how we are right there.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, Like and to see him playing kill and like
to see his report he has everybody. It's like you
can't do nothing but supported. You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Buddy celebrated because he went crazy this ship y'all. Lucky Jr.
Wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Bro get Well soon came because Julius Runner was area.
I was getting sweat, bro Man.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
That's that's one thing about that Nick team. Like I
was like when I got there, like we we sucked
so bad. Like people like we was terrible. Bro Like
we we just didn't have it in order. We had RJ.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
We had it.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
We were just the city was just on us as
far as like just kicking us down, and they don't
understand the level of like how we really guys built
that up. And Julius was the main thing. Look at
that joint going. He need to get a lot more
praise than what he got. But everybody off. You gotta
be a crazy mother lover to go to the Knicks
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because you gotta be built different.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
That city is tough. That city is.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Tough, and you just gotta be You gotta be molded
in it. That's one thing about it. It's tough to play,
but once you through those those wolves and odds and
really figure it out, it's one of the best places
to play.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Man Sign not though I know we gotta get up
out of here.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Though.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
What's the dirtiest place in New York City? What's the
dirtiest city, Damn, the dirtiest city.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Do that?
Speaker 4 (45:40):
What'd you think?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Ship you from there?
Speaker 4 (45:44):
I want to hear you too, said I wanted to
see what Manhattan? Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm not gonna let you do the Bronx like that.
Hey man, some of the dirtiest places got the best food.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Do with you. When I say the Bronx, I say that,
I will say maybe you can say maybe the Bronx.
But the Bronx is the old school, real New York
if you think about it, like Brooklyn has changed, man,
and it's changed.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's repeater. Gruns is wrong.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
But legend, I funk with the legend with watching the Heights.
When you keep the breaks, that's the program. Some hopes,
(46:35):
that stupid forward.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh man, all we gotta get up out here before
we go. Man, you were actually slide. Man, we've got
going on next year. I know you've been doing some
kinds of pleasure, but no, we're gonna see you on
the court next year, man, God.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Will and we'll see man. Right now, I'm just top
one hundred camp learning how to coach these kids. Just
thank God, lead, thank God, leave me, and just trying
to have some much funds I can. We can't take
this for granted. Every day I wake up now, I'm
just trying to just smile, man, because I did not
think I was going to be here.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
So if I get the call, I'm calling you off
for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
For sure, my dog man, we're gonna have to do
this again. Man, had too much fun. Man, We will
get up out of here. Be here.
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