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All right, well, COO hoops to night here at the volume.
Happy Friday, every budding. Hopefully you guys are having a
great week. We're going to be reacting to that incredible
game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Tie down one O three with about four minutes left,
and then Anthony Edwards happened, and a moment that I
thought demonstrated a lot of his growth over the course
of this last season and the postseason last year, and
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some of the mistakes he had dealt with in the past.
We're gonna be breaking that game down from the perspective
of both teams. I was doing a live stream with
my buddy Pete's As from Laker Film Room during the game,
so that interfered with my ability to cover the other
two games tonight, but I'm covering them tomorrow morning. So
Magic Celtics, Pacers, Bucks will be hitting those games in
tomorrow morning's show, but today just Lakers Timberwolves, and then
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remainder of the postseason. All right, let's talk some basketball. So,
as mentioned before, about one oh three to one oh three,
but about four minutes left, I was on the playback
stream with Pete Zayas and shout out to Pete. He's
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does incredible work. Love talking basketball with him. But we
had been discussing throughout the game the reality that has
been throughout this series that the Lakers are just a
little bit more comfortable in the half court creating offense
than Minnesota, as long as they can control the controllables right,
like stay out of transition, don't turn the basketball over,
you know, keep your body positioned properly to force the
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Wolves to make decisions and to make shots over the top. Essentially,
what I've been referring to in the series is like
hanging on to the rope they can hang out of
the rope, they're fine, but if they don't hang onto
the rope, they're gonna lose. And even with that last
stretch that we saw from Anthony Edwards in that game,
the Lakers logged day ninety nine offensive raiding in the
half court and the Wolves log day ninety two offensive
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rating in the half court, there were twenty eight points
off of nineteen Laker turnovers, some of the dumbest turnovers
that I've ever seen from that team, just coffin the
ball up right underneath the basket, like not protecting it
after rebounds, trying to throw passes to guys two feet
away that are not ready for the basketball. The Lakers
just looked really sloppy and undisciplined, and that got them
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into a close game late, and in a close game late,
Anthony Edwards actually turned out to be the better half
court shot creator. So regardless of what the numbers say,
we had a one oz three to one oh three
with four minutes left, mostly half court basketball, and ant
just badly outplayed the Laker half court shot creators. Obviously,
context there being Luca whatever the illness that he was
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dealing with tonight, But what really impressed me specifically, was
the way that Anthony Edwards got the job done. They
started moving his ISOs to the t top of the key,
which I thought was interesting the ISOs that he had
been running on the slot, meaning like more towards the wing.
They allow the Lakers to be more planned in their approach. So,
for instance, with Anthony Edwards on the right slot right wing,
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that defenders going to overplay the middle and try to
funnel Ant towards the player who's digging down off the
corner and the guy who's helping out from under the rim,
effectively making him play one on three on his drives.
We talked about this in our film sessions. A lot
of ants layups in this series have been ripped through
the primary defender, gather through the guy digging down from
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the corner, and then some sort of slaloming move around
the dude at the rim so that he can get
a layup and move him to the top of the key.
And one of the things that that does is it
puts Ant in a position where the defender guarding him
has to square him up. One of the reasons why
that matters is on the wing, when you can overplay aside,
you can actually use that arm that you're using to
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overplay the side to get Closeru're on the pull up
jump shot because you're less worried about giving up dribble
penetration because you have more of a plan for it.
But at the top of the key there, if you
lean up like that, you can give up dribble penetration
and be in some trouble. And so he was able
to hit two step back threes in one on one
situations where he was able to shed the defender that
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first one against Luca at the top of the key.
Big part of that is he's got Lucas squared up.
He's able to get that, you know, a little bit
of backwards momentum so that he can do that pullback
dribble uh and get separation for his shot. And like,
as I was talking about with Pete on the broadcast,
like the Lakers kind of have to live with that.
There's a certain amount of Anthony Edwards pull up three
that they're gonna have to live with unless they start doubling,
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which we did see a little bit of and I
do think we'll see some more of that later in
the series, but we'll talk about that in a minute.
The play that I thought demonstrated the growth was the
assistant nas read off the left wing, so he hits
the step back over Luca. It's one oh six to
one oh three, and he gets a drive along the
right baseline, and instead of trying to force something up,
he elevates and rifles a pass to nas Red on
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the left wing and he knocks down a three. Those
reads have been there for Ant throughout the series. We
talked about in Game two in our film session. It
wasn't so much that the lake like look. The Lakers
did compete more than they did in Game one, but
the same reads were available. The strong side corner reads
were there. Ant didn't make it a single time in
Game two after he made it several times in Game one.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
The skip pass was there.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He was getting into the teeth of the defense, and
some of those passes were getting deflected or getting sent
into areas where they were tougher for guys to attack
off of. In tonight's game, just decisive down the stretch,
knew exactly what he wanted to do, rifles that pass
to nas Red, he knocks down the three, gets Lebron
in a switch, crosses him up and gets into the
basket for a layup, just surgical down the stretch, and
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that was the difference. It was one of three to
one to three. They end on a thirteen to one run,
fueled almost entirely by Anthony Edwards in his half court
shot creation. That's really the thing. As I mentioned, the
Wolves have these overwhelming advantages in the margins right like
they are the bigger, more athletic team. They forced nineteen
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turnovers tonight that lead to twenty eight points. They have
fifty six points in the paint compared to just twenty
six for the Lakers. If Anthony Edwards can shrink the
half court gap with that level of shot making, with
that level of decision making, that's where the Wolves have
the potential to end this series sooner than later. Because
if they're the better half court team, and they're the better,
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you know, like detailed margin team, that's where they can
end up in some trouble. Now, there's obviously going to
be games in this series where Luca doesn't look like
he did tonight. I thought Luca looked like an absolute
shell of himself on in every phase of the game.
There's a clear and concerted effort from the Wolves early
in the game to attack Luca and Iso. We even
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saw that down the stretch with the shot that An't hit,
that was inevitable. We heard a ton of that after
the game in the press conferences. We had a feeling
that the Wolve's coaching staff would emphasize that they did.
The Timberwolves made a very concerted effort to attack Luca,
and it was exacerbated by the fact that Luca just
looked slow. The dead giveaway that you could tell Luca
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wasn't himself was he looked surprised by ball pressure, and
he looked surprised by help defense, but like getting into
the teeth of the defense and drawing a second body
and then just trying to shoot and getting blocked. Or
Jaden McDaniels jumping him along the left wing on one
of his early catches with some ball pressure and Luca
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just looked like he was just like surprised by it
as he coughed the ball up, like there was just
a like this was a game where Luca was unable
to overcome the physical circumstances that he was dealing with.
And I thought that that really hurt the Lakers down
the stretch as great as Lebron was And obviously Lebron
was incredible tonight on both ends of the floor. His
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shot making was the best we've seen from him since
he came back from his growing injury. That pull up
transition three he hit was like one of the most
difficult shots I've seen him take under the circumstances. Kind
of reminded me of the shot Steph hit against Amn
Thompson near half court where it was like sprinting to
his right kind of forward, just left right footwork, elevates,
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just sticks it. You could just tell he just had
great lift and he stuck it. But Lebron is not
going to be able to really create offense in a
half court as effectively as Luca can when he's right.
And that was really the difference in the game tonight
when they got it too one o three, one oh three,
it was gonna be Anthony Edwards versus Luka Doncic, and
Luca just didn't have it tonight, and Anthony Edwards showed
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what his ultimate potential is. I was talking with Pete
on the broadcast, like, it's been really hard for me
in this series because all of you guys who are
longtime listeners of the show. Know that Anthony Everards is
one of my favorite players and having to root against
him is not a fun experience. But I have so
much excitement for Aunt with his big picture potential simply
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because of the fact that there's really nothing you can
do to stop him from either creating a clean look
for himself or him being able to dart through the
lane and elevate and make a high level kickout pass.
You can't stop him from doing one of those two things.
The shot that he gave up that he hit on DFS,
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the shot that he hit on Luca. You have to
concede those. If you take them away, he will go
right around you all night long. And so really that
that's the big picture potential with ant that's so exciting.
Once he learns to really read all these defensive schemes,
that is that is where he's going to be able
to just oscillate between high level aggression high level kickout
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passes based on you know, what the defense is giving
or taking away from him, And that's where he's going
to be able to float his offense for larger portions
of games through higher level playmaking. They're so like this
kid is barely scratching the surface of what he's capable
of being as a basketball player, and it's it's it's
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scary to think about twenty seven year old aunt when
he still has the forty five inch vertical or whatever
the hell he has, and he still is the forty
two percent high volume ten threes a game type of guy,
but a guy that can get up into that five
six seven assists per game, high level kickout reads really
starting to become the half court surgeon. And like you know,
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before the season, I said Anthony Edwards was the fifth
best player in the league that I would pick the
lead a franchise from the start of the season through
to the through the NBA Finals. And there was another
sign to that take involving me bumping Tatum down to seven,
which ended up being the wrong part of that. Tatum
was fantastic again tonight, at least for the parts that
I watched. And I think that if you were to
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list the top four players in the league, it's pretty
clearly you know, Kitch's, it's Yannis, It's Shay yieldis Alexander,
It's Jason Tatum. Maybe Luca again at some point soon
if he can get physically right, But Anthony Edwards, to
me is arguably that fifth guy. So here we are
in April, and through the course of this season from
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October to now, has shown the growth as a jump shooter,
has shown the growth as a half court shot creator.
Think about it in Game one too, He's fantastic in
Game one nine. It's just one turnover. He's been playing
at a higher level as a half court decision maker
than he has at any point in his career, and
I think you can make the case that he's encroaching
on that top tier of guys. With the level of
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play that he's reaching, I think that the Lakers are
going to have to start considering double teaming him. We
saw a little bit of it towards the end of
the game, right after he already put things away, specifically
picking him up earlier in the possession out towards half court.
The Wolves are not very attentive in those situations, flashing
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and quickly breaking down the defense in those situations. I
think the Lakers are going to have to consider doing that.
If ant continues to find that kind of groove in
the fourth quarter. It's not something that I would just
bring out first quarter right away. But it's something that
I would consider pulling out a little sooner in game
in Game four than JJ pulled it out in Game three.
But all around, just much smarter approach from the Wolves tonight,
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attacking Luca instead of just you know, hunting the Lakers
better perimeter defenders, Anthony Edwards, the half court surgeon down
the stretch, and then they are the physically dominant team.
They were able to get the Lakers to let go
of the rope tonight. There were so many examples of
them just just getting sloppy rushing and like Austin Reeves
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had a few turnovers where you could just tell he's rushing,
he's struggling against the ball, pressure's dribbling the ball off
his knee or losing control of it one way or
the other. You know, Jared Vanderbilt looked like he was
a little sped up tonight, you know, like Ruyachamura looked
like he was a little sped up tonight. There was
just a lot of EXAs amples where the Wolves and
their pressure cause the Lakers to let go of the rope,
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and their pathway is very simple. Even with what Aunt
showed tonight, even with the attacks of Luca. The Lakers
are the better half court team. If they can keep
things in the half court and they don't turn the
basketball over and they just surgically go about the process
of creating advantages and playing off of it, they can
win the series. But it's gonna be tough, and it
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doesn't look good with the way that this series breaks
down from a schedule standpoint.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Now. I talked a lot over the course of the
last couple of days how I.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Viewed Game three as a game the Lakers kind of
needed because they don't just turn around and play on Sunday.
They turn around and play on Sunday at a twelve
thirty tip. So some basic math, that's less than forty
hours from now, that they have to turn around, that
Lebron after that game has to get his body right,
that Luca after dealing with food poisoning has to get
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his body right. And you know, this is the thing,
it's super unfortunate, like win or lose, whether it's Minnesota
or LA that ends up advancing. I'd rather see it
happen with both teams at full strength. But you don't
get you don't get to you don't get to take
a day. You don't get to call in. And we
were joking about it on the live stream, like it's
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it's not like I've had food poisoning before. I know
you guys all have. It's pretty shitty feeling. There's a
lot of laying around. There's a lot of like, oh
I stood up for a minute and now I immediately
feel nauseous. There's a lot of like horrible feeling that
comes with that. Can you imagine if it was like,
oh shit, I gotta go play the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight.
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It's it's it's crazy to not just to play the
Minnesota Timberwolves, but to have to play them in a
high level, high leverage playoff game.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And but it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Everyone's dealing with certain types of ailments, whether they be physical,
whether they be with health. And you know, Luca just
wasn't able to overcome it tonight, and down the stretch
they just didn't have a go to action that they
could go to.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You could tell.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean Luca had two ISOs down the stretch, one
against Jaden and one against Julius where he just didn't
get any separation and he's like trying to throw what
he got Jalen Jayden, excuse me along the left kind
of short corner area where you know, Luca did his
patented like little fake step back pump fake, and Jaden
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was just all over it. And he had to rifle
a cross court pass to the right corner that wasn't
really open. He went at Julius Randall, and Julius Randall
forced him to pick up his dribble around the right block.
Like Luca literally wasn't even getting separation down the stretch,
and even the shots that he was making tonight, like
the shot that he hit over Julius Randall on the
left wing, like that was an insanely difficult shot. Like
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he's not getting separation in this game because of the
physical ailment that he's dealing with. And so the pathway
for the Lakers to get back into a position where
they're in control of this series, they can get home
court just by winning one. The Wolves stole one, They
got to steal one in Game four. They need to
hang onto the rope. They need a better performance from Luca.
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They need to maintain the rhythm that we saw from
Austin and Lebron. Austin early hits a couple threes. You
could tell he was zero for six in Game one,
but he got some clean looks. He found a way
to get some of those to go. I thought they're
out the game, Like the Lakers shot really well from
three in this game, But I thought there were a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Of really good looks.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Lebron hit a couple of tough pull ups, Austin hit
a couple of tough pull ups, Luca hit a couple,
hit one in particular on the left wing that was
pretty tough. But the Ruby catching shoot threes, those are
clean looks. The DFS catching shoot threes, those are clean looks.
The Gabe Vincent catching shoot threes, those are clean looks.
A lot of Austin's were clean looks. If they can
take care of the ball, keep the game in the
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half court, execute their offense, they can win this series.
But they have now put themselves in a position where
they got to win three of the next four, and
that's just really hard to do under any circumstances. Certainly
when two of those games are gonna be in Minnesota's
it's a tough spot to be. So we're gonna let's
open it up to the chat. Now we can get
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into any more details about the series that you guys
want to if you guys have any specific questions about tonight,
But we can also get into some of the other series.
Just remember I have not seen Bucks Pacers at all,
and I only saw about the first two thirds of
that Celtics Magic game.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
We definitely got a lot of questions about this game.
First up, last year, Luca dominated the one on one
matchup with Jaden McDaniels. You've obviously talked a lot about that.
What is different this year?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Jaden has done a better job with his physicality and
his pressure in the series. But like I thought all
night long, tonight, Luca just didn't have his burst. I
thought Luca was just a shell of himself. I mean,
all you have to do is look at the box score.
Five turnovers, six for sixteen from the field, seventeen points.
Like Luca has had high point totals consistently in the
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lakers last several games. Let me see if I can
pull it up. But like, yeah, thirty one, thirty seven,
thirty nine, forty five, twenty three, thirty thirty five, that's
the last, you know, eight or so games that lou
Is played his seventeen tonight hit sixty eight points against
the timber Wolves in the.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
First two games. It's just he just didn't have the
burst tonight. It is what it is. You don't get
to take you don't get a rain check, you don't
get to replay game three. That it just it is
what it is. The Lakers had to win with the
shelle of Luca tonight and they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Another question about the Lakers defense. Hey, Jason Duke from
Ghana here, don't you think the Lakers are over helping
on Ant's drives? Reducing the number of players helping on
his drives will sort of help with those Wolves kickout threes?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, because I think I think Ant Ant has in
many cases tried to force the issue through those situations,
and I still think your pathway forward is to force
Ant to beat you with the pass. So like he's
done it twice in this series so far twenty nine
points eight assists tonight. But in theory throughout the rest
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of the series, you want him beating you with the pass.
You want him beating you with force him to make
that kickout read over and over again, and like, does
he make that same kickout read if it's one oh seven,
one oh three Lakers with a little lead late in
the game, or does he force the issue like you
still want to prey on his inconsistency for the record,
and has zero assists in game two, so that game
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plan can work. It just it's it's it's about playing
into his youthful inconsistency.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I agree. I mean, I think here's he's so dynamic
downhill and he's become such a good three point shooter.
He literally led the league this season and makes that
he has through his hard work, has created He's made
his game almost impossible to defend. Like you don't have
a good option, what are you supposed to do? Let
him just iso and not help and let him finish
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Over the Lakers and lack of improtection, they don't have
any improtectors. It's a lot easier to say we're not
gonna we're not gonna overhelp if you have Rudy Gobert
on the inside, for example, then it is if you
have Jackson Hayes or Ruby Hachimurra or whoever is on
the back line. You know, next question, why are the
Lakers not utilizing and more on ant is his offense
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really making him unplayable.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Vando has been really mistake prone in this series. He
had a decent first half shift, but like he had
that play where he fouled Julius Rayndel because he like
failed to pick him up in transition. There was what
was the mistake he made in the second oh yeah,
where he gets that defensive rebound and like Nikkeil Alexander
Walker is like running right up to him and he
just holds the ball out and lets Nikkeil Alexander Walker
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take the ball away from him. He's just he's just
been a little he's been a step slow in his reads.
There was a Luca turnover on a blitz where when
think of like the Steph Curry blitz sequence that we've
seen a thousand times, Draymond short rolls out of it,
Steph floats the ball over the top, Draymond goes down
the lane, someone steps over and helps either sprays it
to the corner, he drops it off to a cutter
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for a dunk.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There was a sequence where Jared Vanderbilt was the screener.
Luca got blitzed and instead of short rolling out of it,
he rolled all the way to the rim and when
he rolled all the way to the rim. Luca did
not have a play that a player that he could
pass the ball to right in the middle of the floor,
and so Luca had to try to force a pass
all the way down to Vando on the like dunker
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spot area and ended up in a turnover. Like they're
a couple things. Vando can do a decent job on Ant,
but the job of guarding Ant as a five man job,
it is not a one man job, and there's just
too much mistake making and not enough on offense to
justify high minute totals for Jared Vanderbilt. I still think
ultimately this series goes down with their core five guys
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being Dorian Finney Smith as the fifth, with those guys
all playing like forty two to forty three minutes in
a big game.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, the mistakes across the board were rough tonight. I
mean the Lakers had what nineteen turnovers and it felt
like five or six of them or either fumbled passes
or dribbled off their.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Leg Yeah, like that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Luca got a defensive rebound and saw Austin flash in
front of him, and instead of just bringing the ball
up the floor like he's always done. He like tried
to throw the ball to Austin from two feet away
and it just bounced off his lap and went right
to Antony, Like that was what happened on the play
where Aunt dunked on Luca. Aunt dunked on Luca because
Luca coughed the ball up. Lebron on his hot streak.
He gets on his hot streak, catches the ball up
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on the right wing, immediately just coffs the ball up
and like every single one of those cough ups like
immediately led to like an and one or a dunk,
or like like the Wolves made them pay every single
time you gave up thirty points on turnovers in a
game that was tied with four minutes left, like it
like this was Pete and I were joking during the stream,
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like that's a game you deserve to lose, Like the
basketball gods are not gonna let you win a game
where you play that sloppy, And I'd like ant ant
was great all night, and he pulled it out late
with his own with his individual greatness. But like the
Lakers didn't play well enough to deserve to win that game.
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They were lucky to be into it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
The way they were thanks to the shot making of Lebron,
James and Ousin Reeves.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, I would have been a complete theft if they
were able to come up with that game. What are
your You talked time on this briefly, but what are
your thoughts on Lebron's ability to have to have a
highly impactful game on Sunday considering the short turnaround?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think Lebron's gonna be fine on Sunday. Do I
think he's gonna go for thirty eight again? Probably not,
But like I think I Lebron is the most dependable
big game player that I've that I've personally ever seen
because of his floor being so high. If my entire
life is a Lebron fan, every time I've gone into
a truly big game, which Game four is a big game,
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you go down three to one, it's really hard to come. Now,
you gotta win three times in a row against Minnesota Timberls. Like,
if the Lakers are gonna win this series, they need
to win on Sunday. Lebron knows that you can guarantee
at least twenty seven and five and Draymond Green asque
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defense on Sunday. They're not like like to me, the
swing factor is Luca. Luca needs to have a massive
bounce back game on Sunday. He like like owes it
to the team and like, I get it. What happened
to him was super unfortunate, but ultimately they lost this
game because their best player was a complete and total
shell of himself. So like they need Luca to get
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di ivy fluids, getting Lebron's hyper bear chamber, do whatever
the hell he needs to do. Hell if it's a
beer that he needs to get to get back in shape,
like do something get him back on his feet, and like,
Luca needs to be amazing on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What do you make of Lebron and and Conley laughing
and joking around during that late review? Do you care
at all? Do you not care?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't care at all? Like, did you guys feel
like Lebron wasn't competing? Did you guys feel like Mike
Conley wasn't competing? Did you guys feel like Anthony Edwards
wasn't Like those guys were like putting it all on
the line on the floor, Like, like to me, like
Lebron and Ant were Team USA teammates, and Lebron has
famously been a guy that will make somewhat light of
big moments, Like you remember when he hit the pull
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up three right after Paul George dunked all over the Birdman,
and then he like went up and like went up
to Paul George is like, hey, we're playing some great
basketball here. Like that's the thing you gotta remember too,
Like that was a hell of a game, guys, that
was a show. Lebron and Aunt put on a show tonight.
We were treated as basketball fans to an incredible basketball game.
And I feel like there's there are some moments where
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those guys are out there and like, hey, what we're
doing is pretty cool here.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
This is a funny question from Miles. What did you
say when Conley banked in that three?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I thought he banked in it on purpose.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, so, if I remember correctly, Luca got beat on
a baseline crash by Conley, and then after Conley got
the rebound, he dribbled out to the wing. But it
was so visibly obvious, like two feet off to the
left off of his hand, that I just Mike Commy
had to have tried to bank that on purpose. It
was a decent look too, like he had a decent
amount of separations.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
He was laughing coming down the other do you think
it was lucky? But either way, man, that's a banked
in three in the fourth qut of a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What was your opinion on Rudy Gobert's impact in this
game and throughout the series? His statistics as well if
his offensive impact are almost non existent, but it feels
like he's sparked a couple of rounds, especially in the
first quarter.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Rudy I thought was good tonight. They ran a lot
more diversified coverages with him tonight, like and this is
where it's like, yeah, I think it's so fun there
there was such a conversation surrounding the Rudy Gobert and
the ISOs, and there's a lot of like numbers getting
thrown around. My read in game two was that Luca
had solved the go Beart switches. In the second half.
He had generated back to back wide open catching three,
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a catch and shoot threes attacking Rudy and ISOs, one
of which was a Dorian Phinney Smith one that he made.
The Lakers had been getting one point zero seven points
per Iso just counting shot attempts, not even counting passes
as a team against Rudy in the first two games.
So like for all of the talk, like the coaching,
the players and coaches will.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Tell you what they think.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And they came into Game three and they stopped switching
with Rudy, So did that should tell you, guys what
the Minnesota coaching staff felt about Rudy Gobert defending and
switches on the perimeter. They did randomly switch with him
once in the second half, and he jumped up on
Luca and forced a turnover. But once again, Luca just
like like surprised by ballpre like I like, one of
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the most bizarre Luca games I've ever seen. And I'm
just chalking it up to the food poisoning and throwing
it out because I refuse to believe he would play
like that under normal circumstances. But they ran a lot
of drop coverage. They blitzed with him a few times tonight,
so I at the level coverage and Luca just Luca
wasn't able to attack it the way that he usually did.
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But overall, I thought Rudy was fine tonight. They won
his minutes. Like I think in general, like he has,
he has provided enough positive impact to justify the minutes
that he's been getting. The Lakers have been unable to
like play him off the floor. We did see when
Luca attacked him along that right lane line and bumped
him with that left shoulder and hit that little hook
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that was a drop coverage possession. It kind of looked
like a switch because he was attacking Luke Rudy one
on one, but it was a drop coverage possession. And
after that shot they did bail on him and go
to Nasried, But I think that could have just as
been easily been for offense, and it was Nasried who
literally ended up hitting a three on that critical possession late,
So like I'd argue that Chris Finch made the right
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call there for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We can take a couple from some away from this series. Hey, Jason,
loved the show. What has been your favorite series to
watch so far these playoffs?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's a really good question, Pistons Nicks. I just there's
a lot of players in that series that I really like.
That Pistons team, to me, has a lot of likable
guys that I think are gonna be fun guys to
like root for. For the Pistons over the course of
the next half decade.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I would say.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I've gotten a good amount of enjoyment out of Celtics
Magic too. I really enjoyed watching that game today. Yeah,
and like even though, like I will say, some of
these Palo mid range jump shots are like IY sores
to me, and it just kills me that he won't
work a little closer to the bad place.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
It was really funny how on the broadcast I was
watching very closely as a Celtics fan, how Jay Billis
was like, basically or no, Tim is Tim Legler, And
I think Tim Legler's usually great at this kind of stuff,
So I'm not taking a shot out really at Tim
Legler because I really am a big fan of his.
But in this game, he was like those those mid
range pull ups when he creates space basically a layup
for Paolo.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I was like, well, not exactly, I don't know about that. Yeah,
I'm gonna pull up now. I'm curious. I want to
see what Polo's shooting from the mid range in this postseason.
But it's it's it's one of those things where the
even with it, there's a lot of like tough off
the dribble, mid range jump shots that are getting taken
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in that series. But it is just fun because the
Magic crowd was great, are super big, been big and physical,
and they can play the Celtics into some uncomfortable stretches.
But to me, and I don't know if you feel
this way Jackson, even with the loss, the Celtics are
still putting together some of the prettiest stretches of basketball
two way basketball that I'm seeing in the league right now.
And they had a couple tonight, like they had that
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run right before the half. Tatum had this stretch where
he just like went down boom pull up three, went
down tough right shoulder fade bam, went down tough.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Pull up three at the top of the key.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Like they will just blitz you in these like short
periods of time and make leads just completely disappear. I
would say, yeah, Magic Celtics and then Pistons. Pistons Nicks
have been two of my absolute favorites. While you're asking
the next question, I'll pull up the numbers from Pallo.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, I think my favorites before the game. The last
two games were the Nuggets, Clippers on the Warriors, Rockets,
Game one of that series, but then Game two of
that series in Game three of Clippers Nuggets were both
blow out, so I kind of lost a little bit
of the last.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
There for me, but really quickly twenty four points on
twenty twenty six shots from the mid range shofer, So
he's been good. That's that's solid for mid range basketball
in the postseason. In the regular season, he was thirty
one percent on long twos outside of seventeen feet, but
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he was fifty one percent inside of seventeen feet, which
is literally the point that I'm trying to make. Like
the point that I'm trying to make is that like
he actually has such imposing size that he can get
short range shots that are high like highly efficient, but
as soon as he gets out to the elbows and out,
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it just turns into not a layup to counter Tim Legler.
But like, like that that's really the piece of it.
Like he's fifty one percent inside of seventeen feet, thirty
one percent outside of seventeen feet, thirty two percent from three.
It's that's really for him, the goal is just fighting
to get positioned closer to the basket. He's also forty
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nine percent on runners floaters.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Okay, we talked about this a little bit last show,
but until the game has played tomorrow, it's so an
interesting question. What are the Warriors chances to make it
past the Rockets, either without Jimmy Butler with a hobble
Jimmy Butler, or what's the what's the outlook there?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I told you before the broadcast tonight that I viewed
the Lakers now as slightly less than a coin flip.
Like I viewed them as about a coin flip in
Game one. Now is like slightly less than a coin flip.
I am still I still feel like the Warriors are
gonna deal with Houston relative like I think they're gonna
win Game three, in Game four, like I there is
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a there is a a reality in that series.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Which is.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Houston cannot score against the Warriors in the half court
when they're really engaged and they have their guys and
they're healthy, they can't. There is an element with the
Lakers where it's like, well, if Ant's gonna hit his
pull up threes and make the kickout reads, like we're
sol where Like I actually like, I think, what do
you think? What do you think is the likelihood. Let's
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just put it this way. Do you think it's like,
what would you pick as the more the more likely
scenario that Jalen Green has less than fifteen points in
Game two or that he has more than twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Oh, less than fifteen, more than twenty five. I would
probably say less than fifteen. I'd probably sate lesson.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna tighten things up there and
they're gonna get that figured out. Like I I I
think even if Jimmy Butler didn't play in Game three
or Game four, that the Warriors would win Game three
in Game four.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's that's a that's a prediction.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Let's see if I can find.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Guys like there's this like reality that happens when Jimmy
goes down and leaves the game and Brandon Pajemski is
like clearly hampered, and like you there is a feeling
within the basketball team where it's like, oh, we we
kind of don't have it tonight, you know what I mean?
And that trickles into every single element of the game,
you know, and like like they're gonna come out and
game like I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors won
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Game three by twenty plus.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Jalen Green's prop or his player props on DraftKings right
now for Game three, they MIAs one fifteen at twenty
one plus. They don't give Hi an exact number, which
is weird, but twenty one plus is MIUS one fifteen,
so they're expecting about twenty one is the over under?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, so the over under would be around like twenty
point five, like in that area and like that that. Yeah,
like and I would take the under. I would take
the under there.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I texted you after last game. I was like, what
are the odds he has another game over twenty five
in the whole series? And You're like, I don't think
he's get one.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
This is this is actually a crazy stat because like
I talked about how Jalen Green when he scored thirty
points in the regular season, he did it fourteen times
and they went thirteen and one, but there were this
is this is like crazy, this is how many this
is how many times this season he scored single digits.
He scored single digits twelve times. He scored fewer than
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fifteen points twenty four times. So to the to the
point he's like almost twice as likely to fail to
reach fifteen than he is to get over thirty, and
that like, it's just Jalen Green always has that upside.
It just is it's so inconsistent and like to get
if I'm a Rockets fan, having gotten it.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Once in the series feels like a luxury. It's hard
to match.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's so crazy because it is hard to imagine him
doing it again in Golden State. But if you watch
Game two, you're like, this, dude's Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Basically, dude, I can never I've been talking about this
forever with Jalen Green and with Jonathan Kaminga, which is
like the freaky athlete with some size, because that's the key.
It's it's not Scoot Henderson, It's Jalen Green in the
sense that like there's some real size there, and real
athleticism with size is so hard to give up on
because they they really do just have sky high potential
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and when they do get into their rhythm, when they
start to gain that confidence, they can be a force
to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
For sure. Let's say one more, This is a non
playoff question, what's the Spurs next movie of this offseason?
To to keep the path forward.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
To contention, scour for vets.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Your timeline is accelerated now you have Dearon Fox, you
have Victor Webbanyama. You need to be looking for players
that can play at the two and the three and
the four, that can defend hit three's attack, closeouts, connective playmaking,
that sort of thing. From a draft standpoint too, I
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think I think because you have Steph Castle, because you
have Victor Wembenyama, you no longer need to be drafting
for upside. You need to be drafting for immediate utility.
So looking for you know, fourth year seniors, fifth year seniors,
guys that have been in college programs that teach fundamentals
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really well, that are going to produce a lot of
pro ready role player type of guys. This is your
You're just looking to fill the roster with guys that
can do small roles. Now, like Daron Fox is absolutely
fine as you're primary perimeter shot creator, Victor women Yama
is absolutely fine as a secondary shot creator. You are
teed up for success. You just got to build around
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the margins at this point. All right, guys, that's all
we have for tonight. As always, I sincerely appreciate you
guys for supporting me and supporting the show. Jackson, you
got a movie time tomorrow morning?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Right? What movie youre going to see?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm going to see Sinners all right on.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I need to see that.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I just need to find some time. A Revenge of
the Sith is back in the theater, so I need
to go find some time to go see that too.
But the episode will probably be up. The episode for
the Bucks Magic and Bucks excuse me, Bucks Pacers and
Celtics Magic will probably be up a little bit closer
to noon ish Pacific time. But none of those teams
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are playing tomorrow, so they'll still be available. But I
think they're worth I think those games are worth digging
into because both of those teams managed to get the
home win in Game three, so it's worth looking at
what they did to succeed. So we'll have that up
in the afternoon sometime tomorrow and then live after the
final Buzzer Rockets Warrior on YouTube tomorrow night. Last note,
I do have that if you're into Star Wars. We
had the first three episodes of and Or Come Out,
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and my buddy Luke and I recorded about a half
hour long podcast reacting to that. You can find that
on my twitter feed or wherever. Get your podcast on
our two SUNS podcasts. Again, appreciate you guys for supporting us.
We're rocking with the rocking with the show. We will
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Speaker 1 (40:37):
The volume