Nightcap - Hour 1: Clippers beat Nuggets, Pistons beat Knicks on the road + NBA Award finalists announced!

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Clippers beating Nuggets on the road, the Pistons bounce back to win game 2 on the road against the Knicks & NBA award finalists are announced!

05:42 - Clippers beat Nuggets
20:00 - Pistons snap losing streak
36:52 - Nico Harrison: idk Luka was important to the fan base
56:40 - JJ Reddick: Best Practice
1:02:30 - NBA Player Awards Announced

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What an exciting ball game as the Clippers go into

(03:28):
Denver and they win one oh five one o two
thanks to Kawhi Leonards virtue OsO fifteen or nineteen from
the floor, four to seven from three, perfect from the
free throw line, thirty nine big points. And he was
the best that he was as good as I've ever
seen him in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Y'all know me. I'm your favorite UNC.

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My co host is your favorite Number eighty five, the
Liberty City Legend, the Bengal Ring of Fame, Honorey the.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Pro Bowler, the all Pro.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson, also our contributor for all
things basketball, and the play is y'all knowing the Arkansas
native that a Phoenix. Didn't know him a little bit
from Phoenix, but you really know him as a hawk
and a net here he is Iso Joe Joe Johnson. Well, guys,
let's get right into this ball game. Got a lot

(04:15):
to talk about tonight. The Clippers win one O five
to one O two, as I said, thanks to Kawhi
Leonard and a big big three from Norman Power, who
struggled all night long with his shot, but he found
it when he needed to find it. Yes, yo, get
you had a triple double. But he did not play well.
Seven turnovers, four miss free throws. And I think that
was the difference in the ballgame, Joe, that all those

(04:36):
free throws they make one miss one, make one miss one.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
It came back to bite them.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What did you like about what you saw from the
Clippers After a tough loss on Saturday, they come back
and get a tough win on Monday. Well you knew,
you knew Team Blue was gonna have those guys ready
and they was gonna regroup. I didn't think they played bad.
Uh you know the game one. I thought they play
You're right, you know, probably down to the to the end.
But man, they just say what they want to say

(05:00):
about Kawhi Joey boy.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Out there doing the playoffs. He make it happen.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Man does Hey the mid range assassin analytics trying to
take the media out the game. Hey, man, they may
get into his spint every time raising up shooting and
it's cash.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
He looked.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
He looked good tonight. Uh for me, I like, I
like how his body look. He don't look like he
out of shape. He looks like a guy who was
in elite shade and he's ready to go. Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
He gave him everything they was looking for tonight. Man,
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You didn't need James to be special tonight. He was
silent throughout the whole game. I liked Zuba competing against
a big yoke yoke. That's a catch up, man, that's
a great matchup. But all in all, the Clippers did
what they wanted. Hey, they came down there to get one,
got one and they was able to do that in
the game too.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Man, they look good.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, when you look at Kawhi, I think the thing
is is that Zu box makes works. On the other end,
he had another double double, six and twelve. You could
live with that. As you said, James Harden didn't not
didn't need to be spectacular night.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But it was quiet and I thought it was very interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Joe Kawhi had it going, but tyl Lou gave him
a six minute break in the third quarter, knowing this
game's gonna be close. I needed to close it out.
I needed for the entirety. I'm not bringing him off
the court, And you saw him at the end of
the game, slumped over.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
He was dog tired because he.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Played thirty nine minutes and they needed all thirty nine
minutes from him. But I thought t Lou stole some time,
and when the Nuggets couldn't get any separation with Kawhi
off the floor, you knew, Okay, this game's gonna come
down to the end. Michael Porter Junior played extremely well.
He had six offensive rebounds. They needed a call to
action and he answered that call. But that turnover after

(06:45):
he got that rebound where he threw it away and
led to a Norman pile three, that was really the
difference in the ball game.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh Joe, what do you like about what you saw tonight? Listen?

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Tyler had them boys ready to play un he hadn't
ready to play Kawhi. I'm not sure what Kawhi. I'm
not sure what Kawai did, what his routine was before
this game. I'm not sure what he ate. I don't
know how he stretched. But needs whatever he did before
this game today, he need to repeat it every game
from this point on.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
The choir I saw the night Onkie was special.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
We've talked about his injuries, we talked about him not
playing games and missing games, but I don't know who
that was tonight. We've seen it before, but I've never
seen it to this magnitude. I've never seen him this
this efficient, like this tonight. Obviously you had Norman Paw
who contributed to coming off the bench. James Hard did
what James Hard does. Obviously he didn't need to be

(07:34):
special like you guys mentioned earlier. I think one of
the main factors and why the Clippers were able to
win this game is I think about not what the
Clippers did, but what the Nuggets did and turning the
ball over twenty damn times. They're polled to the Clippers
only turning over eleven. Obviously, Joker having a triple double,
he didn't play well. He missed some shots laid in

(07:54):
the game down the stretch from the free throw line,
which also contributed to them losing tonight.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But the Clippers then well, Tylou did what he needed to.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Do from a coaching standpoint and making sure they were
prepared to come.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Out and get still and still a win.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Because when you look at it, Joe as o Joe
mentioned twenty turnovers for it's just the opposite. What did
the Clippers do that cost them the game? Turned the
ball over on Saturday? Ye, Now the Nuggets repaid repaid
the favor Cadillac. In the championship game, we saw Houston
Forest Duke to turn it over. And then what did
they do? They turn around against Florida in the National
Championship game, they turned it over. The Nuggets crushed them,

(08:31):
plus eighteen in rebound margin, plus eight offensive rebound margin.
But when you plus nine in the turnover and you
plus you minus six, you shot ten more free throws,
but you missed eight of them. You turnover miss free throws.

(08:52):
There's your ball game right there, Joe Hoddle, if you're
the Nuggets, what if you're Dave Adelman, what are you
telling your team?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Man?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
We gotta continue to fight. Uh, we gotta go. We
gotta go to l A and try to get us one.
You know, we gotta dig the guy deep and find
something within us. Man, they got guys. I don't think
the guys played trouble.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I thought they played pretty good. Uh, considering the big
the big guns, the Joker, Gordon Porter, you know, I
thought they played solid. And I thought Murray played good
enough for him to win.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Honestly.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Uh yeah, just gotta they gotta keep working, you know,
get back to the drawing board and look forward to
game three.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
But what I will say is.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
When you look at the Clippers, I think when they
get home, there'll be a lot better than them, other
guys around them.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Uh, we'll play a lot better.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Role Players normally play better at home, normally play better
at home. So, uh, this is gonna be a lost
series for the Nugget man they are, they are running
lost home for the advantage. You gotta steal one, dude.
So now it's it's on l A to take care
of on court. Great, don't Joe.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I will get ready to say, obviously, you know in
games like this, I'll be playoffs atmospheres and completely different.
You know much more about playoff experience than I do.
But I know that feeling and what it's like to
be there because on video games sometimes you know, everything
gets tight and it gets very difficult when it comes
to being in the playoffs. So I think about when
it comes to this time, not only for the Nugget
for the Clippers as well.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You've got to minimize mistakes.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
You got to minimize errors, and you got to be efficient,
and you got to be consistent the best way you can.
People coming off the bench, the role players, they have
to be on point. They got they got to be
fine on all sellers for each team to have the
chance to win and advance to the next round, and
that that's really it. I ain't really got no bit
to talk about anything playoffs, being that I ain't really
been in.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Them as opposed to YouTube. But I know what to
feel like because I just explain why you can play
a lot in your career. Trump, Hey, man, like that's that.
They don't give me like that. That's that's that's your
They see that. That's what that's why I live. That's

(10:58):
why I led with.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I don't know it's like to be in the playoffs,
but I've done it on video games, and even I
get nervous and I get tight, you know. So that's
that's that's the only experience I got when it comes
to playoffs. Joe and Benny y'all have done that.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Aaron Gord missed the wide open dunk. They hit the back,
he hit the back of the rim monk Oh, Joe,
you can't miss that. You could miss that.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I think, Hey, I got a question. Hey, hey, Joe,
I got a question for for something like that. That
happens when you miss a dunk. Obviously you think it's
going in. Hey, do you think it's the same as
as a ball hitting you right in the hands and
you drop.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It because you take your eyes off the ball. You
think you take his eye off the rim.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
He tried to dunk it so hard and it hit
the back of the rim. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So
it had nothing to do with uh man i okay okay.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I just because you see, you see what it did.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean, he's gonna, he's gonna mar I thought he
was two headed Joe, because that's normal. That's normally how
he dunked the ball, especially close like that. He normally
make sure he finishes. But I was surprised that he
went up with one and you could see things like
that happening. Missus a dunk Michael Porter Junior gets the
defensive rebound and throws.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
It away, which leads into a.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Walk head three by Norman Pole because Christian Brown was
caught in between do I go over here or do
I stay? He you know, Pile fakes it and then
he pulls up boom. In situations like that, that's normally
what happens. You pay an ultimate price with turnovers. You
turn the ball over in football, you pay double in
the playoffs. You turn it on the basketball. The same
thing you commit an error in baseball in the playoffs.

(12:31):
It normally you extend the ending. You extend it, you
extend things. So that's a tough way to lose for
the Nuggets. But you got to give the Clippers credit
after very difficult loss on Saturday, to come in and
play as well as they did tonight and to steal
home court.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now, somehow the Nugget's gonna have to find a way to.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Steal home court back, because I don't believe if if
Clippers win, you know, the Clippers winning their two games,
I don't see how they I don't see how they win,
you know, three in a row, I don't. I don't
see that. You see that joke, You don't see that.
You don't think the Clippers gonna win three in a row? No,
I don't. This is a different team than the bubble. Yes,

(13:12):
I know they did in the Bubble, but this is
a different team on this some this they didn't have
a James Harden Kawhi. Kawhi had some quiet Kawhi had
some quiet times in the fourth quarter with some sixes
and some tunes and that that guy that I see now,
he ain't gonna have no games like that. Yeah yeah, uh, man, listen,

(13:32):
I like I like what I seen from the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Scrappy.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Got a bunch of life size guys and play multiple
positions and cause a lot of having and penetrate and
kick it out for three and just scrambling. Now, it's
just back It's backyard basketball, man, it's playoff basketball as
its finest. Look, the Clippers know what Denver going around.
Denver know what the Clippers going around. Y'all can't show
us nothing new under the sun.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
We know what y'all.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's your will versus my will. And that's that's what's
so special about the player. Man.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's like who wants is the most and right now, man,
the Clippers got ahold of it.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah yeah, Hey, did you just say you don't think
Kawhi can have another game like this?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
He know, I've said I don't think if the Nuggets
go down three to one, I don't think they can
come back like they did in the Bubble, because I
don't believe Kawhi will play as poorly as he did
in the second and the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
In the Bubble.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
He's playing extremely well right now. As Joe said earlier,
he's locked in. Yeah, Now you let him get that
mid range going early. Now you're at his mercy because
if he backs out past that three point line and
he sees a couple of those go in, what you
do If you hug up on him, he can go
by you, or you think he's gonna go by you,
and then he stops on the die and he just
raises up over you. He hadn't gone tonight because he

(14:43):
made some very difficult shots over two defenders. Give him
his dukee, give him his credit. He played well tonight.
He was one of the main reasons why they won.
Zubos doing what Zubos does. Zude, just give us sixteen
to twelve, give us your average. Make you walk on
the offense. On the defensive end, I was surprised. I
don't think was aggressive enough. You got Ben Simmons on you,

(15:05):
and you out there, bull job of a ride the
three point line. Nah, that is what you need to be, bro.
Take your ass down to the paint, get up on
eight and they go to the picket roll or murray,
they may come ay cloutside, go hey, get get away
and let me go to work on Ben's ain't no
way you supposed to be out at the top of
the key with Ben Simmons on you if you Nicola

(15:25):
Yokic Joe, and he was.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And he was. They had Yoka jeffing and puffing out there. Man,
they do what they work.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Early on, they catched him at the three point line
by they banging them all the way to the paint.
So by the time we get to the paint, he'll
a little tired and exhausted. The boss for him to
kind of get into his get into his mojo like
he normally would, because it's a different setting.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
We're in the playoffs now. Nothing is easy.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
They not just gonna let him walk down to that
post and think he just gonna turn around and shoot
jump hooks all night. Now, we ain't going for that.
You got to work to the big fella. Yeah, yeah,
they do it. They do it a great job. They
take it. They let Murdy handled the ball, they let
Brown handle the ball, Russ handle the ball from something
so but he's not handling the ball, but you could tell,
you know, they're they're wearing on him.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
H Zoo Box is banging on him.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But like I said, you get a reprieve once they
take zoobs out of the game, big zoobs and I
got you got to wear you got to wear Ben
Simmons light ass out because I understand he's sixteen, but
he ain't.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
He ain't a big body like zoo box.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, now he's not. He's not a big body like
zoo box. For look yup, was playing a great game.
He still had a nice beastie triple double.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
They had them seven turnovers though hurt him. Though Kevin
turnovers hurt him, But he was four for eight from
the three.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's like whenever he wants to shoot the three balls
like he's very efficient when he shoots it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
But he was. He was pretty good man. He just
need other guys to step up. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Uh, I would probably say Gordon a Porter. They got
to play a little bigger than what they playing right now,
especially points wise, because he smelt yeah Porter plays goob.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
He just had he had three turnovers.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Gordon has got to be a little bit more aggressive,
a little bit more. He was five or thirteen one
of three three, but he was three or three from
the three point line.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Uh, throw up, excuse me from the free throw line.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But I think this was more had to do or
what the Clippers did do as opposed to what the
Nuggets didn't do. I think we need to ship our
half off, especially the Kawhi letter because he was sensational
to night along with East Zoobox. But Norman Pile hit
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He was the difference tonight and Dennis Shrewd. The one
thing about Shooter Hey, He's been in the moments, the
moments he is not afraid of the moments.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's not afraid to take the big shots.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I've seen him take so many big shots when he
was playing for the Lakers. They trust him and I
don't see any reason why they shouldn't trust him.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Tobias Harris was great again.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
He played forty three minutes, had fifteen points, thirteen big rebounds,
Cade thirty three and twelve, But it was shrewd off
the bench that gave you twenty big points. Was the
difference in the ball game, and they were able to
overcome a sensational game by Jaylen Brunstons who had thirty
seven points, but they didn't get nearly enough from Carl

(19:58):
Length any times. He only had ten points on five
of the level shooting fil trouble was the big reason why.
But Michal Bridges had nineteen, OG had ten, Cat had ten,
Josh Hart had ten, but it wasn't enough. Jylen Brunson
at thirty seven, but it was the thirty three points
from Kate Cunningham, twelve points, thirteen rebounds from Durham and

(20:22):
fifteen points from and thirteen rebounds from Tobias Harris, and
they beat the Knicks on the glass forty eight to
thirty four.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I was surprised at how they dominated the glass.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, consider you got Cat, consider you got Mitchell Robinson,
consider you got og Aleanobi and they dominated the glass.
And I think that was one of the reasons why
they won the ball game, even though they had more turnovers.
But they've took the ball to the quank thirty four
free throw tails Joe thirty four to nineteen.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Hey all, yes, I mean, listen, I think the difference
is night game. Jayleen Bronston had thirty four. Last game
tonight he had thirty seven. But nobody else, nobody else
for the contributed or didn't contribute enough to kind of
the balance and madden the encounter what the pitsts were
able to do. If k had the k had thirty three,
he had thirty three eleven one from shooting, you know,

(21:20):
he had twelve rebounds. But then you also have shooter
contributing that, you had Tobias Harris contributed contributing as well.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Then you look at the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
You got thirty seven from Jayalen Brunton, Carl Anthony Towns.
I mean, he doesn't show up like the Carl Anthony
Towns that were used to seeing Josh hard. There was
nobody else, so when just it was the one man
show at the poll three on the other end. Therefore,
that's why the results were what they were and why
they were able to bounce back that God damn k
k cut ham.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Boy, he's special, boy boy, he's special. Well he's something nice.
Now you remind me of myself and a go ahead,
No John Joe, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't
because before before it was ice old Joe. You know
they you know, they called me a yeah school bro. Alright,

(22:09):
so old Joe. I actually so, I wouldn't o Joe yet.
I was. I sold Peppe back.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna we're gonna get back
to this game. But I did some digging and I
found some footage on you and their teammate game. You
on teammate, Yeah, you teammate player. I seen that footage
you on teammate.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, yaage. That was garbage. O Joe got.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You chew bubble gud Man. I said, man, what I'm
trying to hit thing? You can't make the lady up,
none of that?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Oh nold on tell him out. This is after I
had already dropped twenty. I already dropped twenty on t
back ahead. That's why you pushed me out of bable.
I had him frustrated. I tell you, NBA players only
knew how to play in instruction environment. You know, running
plays and all that. When it come to getting it
off the muscle, and you got somebody that's athletic, skined
with latter moving and quickness like me. You don't know

(23:02):
what to dude. That's why I say you can't beat me.
Brouh what you talk about, I don't care, but I
don't care about nobody calling you ice. So nothing ain't
gonna be nothing with one on one, it's just me
and you.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You you you ain't built like this. You ain't built
like this. Say it with your chiers got him? Yeah,
you got my voice cracking. That's how you know I'm serious. Man,
I'm a competitor. Man, I don't care what it is.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm telling you. Hey, when I face you up like.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
This, now hits you with that jab left right, and
then I come back and I.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Hes he I ain't going. I ain't going.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Hey, man, stop playing many but let's hey, let's let's
get back to the playoffs. Because that like I'm I apologize.
I ain't mean to get off like he kind of
triggered me real quick. Hey, like I'm not him, you
feel me? Stop playing boy. I'm from boy, I'm from
Liberty City.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
We do everything you and me it on my swimming,
swimming track, basketball, football, ball, It don't matter shooting pool, yeah, yeah, whatever,
we it's who and whatever against.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Whoever man you got here.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Look, look, let's get back to the playoffs, right right
to the playoffs. I wanna give you out of my
assessment on this. For some reason, carl Anton Towns, he looked,
he looked a little slow at the break man, like
he don't got no energy.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
It's like, you know, he ain't giving them what they need.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You know, they bench ain't gonna give them that because
because Tippleo ain't gonna play him enough.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, you need cat, cat gotta have.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
He gotta be anyone from about twenty twenty five a
night man, uh eleven shot attempts that ain't gonna get
it for the next to be no hands not putting
against these dogs. And uh uh Detroit, I told you
old Joe, he said, uh uh, who I like in
the playoffs this year, and I told you gay cut
he got it.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He'd told the package. He showed that dyke.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
He's very poison patient on offense, creating for himself. He
didn't I have a lot of to night, they made
him score. He scored the ball. Uh, he had thirty,
he had twelve rebounds. He was huge for them. They
had that look. They would have won game one as
well as game two, but they had that low in
game one, that twenty one oh run the Knicks made
yep houst the pitsiness the game. Now they had another

(25:17):
load to night about four to four and a half
minutes where they couldn't score, and then they end up,
you know, end up closing out the game. But de
truck for real. They let y'all know they for real.
Now what I don't expect. I don't expect Tim Hardaway
to go oh for eight no more. I think he's
gonna play great at home and they gonna shoot the
ball well, and they gonna be the others who's gonna

(25:39):
help them?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
You know, probably advanced in this in this series, especially
at home. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, I don't I don't get tills campaign gave you
fourteen big points. He gave you eleven and the fourth
or nine in that nine oer run and you play
in four minutes.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
What's that about?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It needs to be reversed. Mckal bridges need eleven shots,
Cat needs eighteen. When that's on, Cat, Cat needs to
demand the ball and become more aggressive once he gets
the ball. But you know Cat has that propensity to
sometimes drift through the game.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Bro, did you forget your sell him foot tall? Did
you forget that you were the number one overall pick
in the draft?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You? Did you forget that you are an All star?
Many times? Sometimes I think can't forget just how good
he can be?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Cat? Do you do you realize that you once scored
sixteen a game?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Cat? You special? But sometimes I think he forgets. Man,
I'm Cat, I'm him bad. Look here, all I know
is fine and father basketball player was my mentality. I'm
self foot tall. I'm putting out, Hey, I'm shocked. I'm

(26:50):
putting Shaq never forgot he was big, Yack always played big,
Shaq never played small. That's what I like about Shaq.
He like have won three twenty five. Damn, I'm gonna
play film one three five. But the child shop.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
That that's a that's that's that's an IT factor that
comes from within that a lot of people. Hey, you
talk about the young bull from the Lakers, right, how
tall you say he is? Oh you talk about Jackson?
A's no, not the other one. You you don't like
Alex Lynn?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Man man, ye see that that's you that that uh
that in fact of that mentality I'm not I don't
want to say mama mentality, but just that that mean
spirit when it comes to being out there and understand,
I'm seven feet tall, I'm fin a dog. Whoever you
put in front of you, you're gonna get you finna
get this work.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Does Cat have that it factor?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Think about the mentality and the way John Moran plays
or the way Eddie Anthony Edwards plays. Imagine if Cat
had that mentality or that kind of dog any.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
What you think he would be?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Cult but Cat? But you know what Cat problem? Mill Jordan,
I'm gonna let you go. Cat problem.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Cat want to be the best shooting big man. Cat
don't like the bangs. I already said it.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
And that's what got to be in trouble last year
in the Western Conference finals. He was selling too much.
He was selling for the three. He was selling for
the jumper, and they ain't got nobody that can deal
with Cat. When Cat want to play and becomes aggressive
and put his back to the basket. I get it,
you can shoot, but at some point sometimes the game
doesn't doesn't call for that. You need to dictate to eight.

(28:24):
I'm gonna go down the block, give it to me,
give it to bad Man.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Let me have that.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Go ahead, Joe. But you got to give the big
fellow for Detroit some credit. Duran too, because he playing man.
He he's a monster down there oho, you know. So
Cat definitely ain't muscling him, so it's almost like he
kind of taking him out out the game to some degree.
But yeah, I'm like, oh, man, I don't want him
selling for jumpers. I want him down there in the

(28:48):
paint causing having making them dudes double teams so we
can create these yes kids and then getting wide open shots.
I do think he's just kind of floating around three
point line too much. And yeah, the next they gotta
have at least two guys explode, you know, and that
and then starting five in order for them to win,
because like I said, they barely play any guy coming
off the bench.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Hey, Hey Joe, Hey Joe, I mean, listen, I'm gonna
ask this real quick. Do you think because Kat knows
he can't do nothing with young bull down there in
the paint, that he's gonna settle for mid range and
being out there by the three instead of going down
and banging because you know you ain't finna post him
up and you know you're not gonna back him down.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I think you know he's probably gonna look at this footage.
You know, he looked at the he gonna look at
the tables when I'm saying, oh Joe, he's gonna be
okay cool. You know, hopefully somebody on their coaches staff looks,
big fellow, we gotta have you do down there on
that paint.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, no matter what, being big, being a huge presence.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Remember when we throw you can boll it it's a
bucket foul, or you kick it out spray out to
three if somebody got a wide open shot. But right
now what he's giving, Yeah, this this is gonna be
a long series for them. Man. This is a young,
scary Detroit team who've you know, had to learn learn
by experience, you know, throughout the playoffs, like Duran and
Kate Cunningham, they had never been in the postseason, so

(30:03):
they learned from Game one, came back in Game two
duplicated pretty much except ain't performance but close the deal
at the end and uh, hey man Detroit basketball. That
is fine and his baby there. I look at it
like this, Joe. I'm a veteran player. I'm a pro bowler.
I'm an all pro. Ain't no young lad doing nothing

(30:25):
thing with me. I know too much. I understand the moment, right,
he ain't gonna see me not. They better double. Yeah,
they better come double, right because if you don't, I'm
gonna punish it. Hey, cat has to have But look,
Cat is who he at this point in time. Joe

(30:46):
Caddy is who he is. I like Cat a lot,
but Cat needs to be more aggressive. Yeah we know
Cat can shoot the three. We know that he wanted to.
I saim put him with a three point contest.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
He did it. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Think, Hey, look, he he just gotta be. He just
gott assert hisself a little more, especially in the Star.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
You know. Look, I love big body Bronson.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It just seemed like when he get into the paint,
he turned into a straight five man, he go to pivoting.
Yeah all, let bro bro you six foot tall?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
How the hell you talking about? You shoulder? Somebody chance
to get separation, listen and shoot have turned around.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
They made it work. MoU get Stroder credit. He didn't
just play great offensively. I thought defensively he was a
pass He was a pass on Brunston. And he made
him work, picked him up full court, made him go
into that magic Johnson back down. It's just Shroder just
ain't got enough bricks in his back pocket to stop
him once again, No no, no, no, Well and Sue
Thompson when he got in fil trouble. He got in

(31:44):
foul trouble. Yeah, And so that was just because he's
a long, rangy guy that you know. But he you know,
he could you know, he could play out. He can
contest if he shoots the step back, I can contest it.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm long and range enough.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't have to worry about you beating me around
the edge, none of these other guys. Because that's that
because he gonna book, like you said, he'll bully a
shooter and shooters if not a bad defender.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But he just light in the back pocket.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, and you know Tim harderwa j you the same thing,
and so what's what's uh? And s Thompson? What's Thompson
got in trouble? You saw you saw you saw Brunston
get super aggressive. Yeah he did, he super aggressed.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Turn it up. He turned it up. Thompson is bad.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
He's a tough match up for brusting because he's so much,
He's so long and athletic. All he gotta do is
state discipline. He's playing great defense. The one thing I
love about Thompson is he knows his role.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Man. He ain't out there to do nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
He ain't come down there to jacking up, no wild
shot because I'm out here to hustle, defense, calls, have it,
get steals, be on the break like he's playing his
job to the teeth. Keep your head up, young fellow.
He going hard out there. Yeah, and that's what and
that's what you look. But the thing is you gotta
play smart because Brunson iskg Now he'll pump fake you
and when you jump, he'll jump into you. Yeah, So

(32:56):
you you got to be on your best behavior when
you guard him. A guy like Russ, I don't know
what it is, Joe, What is about them left handed guys.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's always crafty, man, you see. Manu was like that.
Yeaha Barcelona's was like that.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
All these left handed guys they be crafty as hey.
It seemed like they got an advantage from the jup,
you know, because you know, you're just not really used
to playing against lefty, so you gotta know the own
game plan when you play against a lefty, you know
what I mean. And it just seemed like they always
got an advantage. I don't know, but it's been some
crafty lefties obviously, James Harden and big body Brunton. Man, Hey, listen, Ojo, Hey, Hey,

(33:35):
you got that man, It's it's a long game, bron
I know you're a boxing you like the box and
all that, right, Yeah, you know I got a nice
little foot footwork.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, in a fight with him, but when the game over,
you're gonna be hurting you, hear me. Yeah? Yeah, definitely definitely.
Oh Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Nico Harrison held another press conference today and see he
did it, and he did it again.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I didn't know Luca was important to the fan base.
I didn't quite know to what level. Joe, what do
you think would have happened if the Lakers would have
traded Kobe, and Kobe didn't ask to be traded. Cleveland
trades Lebron and Lebron doesn't ask to be traded. Do

(34:20):
you What do you mean you didn't know?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
When you go to that and you see all those
seventy sevens, who do you think that Who do you
think that's from that one for Tyron Smith?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
That one from Luca? I mean, what the hell are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You talk about that guy that was a five time
first team All the NBA selection, an All Star, Rookie
of the Year, he was an MVP candidate every year.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
What do you mean you didn't know what he meant
to that base?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
He was hood grown like a Kobe, like a Lebron boom.
And from what if Presty were to trade said you
know what we're gonna trade.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
What do you think, Okay gonna do a fool? Exactly? Bro?

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Come on, Hold on, you don't think you don't think
Nego doing his own purpose or somebody's having him do
this on purpose. The fact that all this is back
to back, I mean, are they trying to distract us
for something else?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
No? You know, good and goddamn well, what he meant
to the team.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's it's your job to actually know the importance of
certain players, especially players of that god damn callible. So
come out and saying something this asinine and saying something
is Asinine's what you said last week, and you're probably
gonna do the same thing. Then this is It's a
constant pattern of it going on, over and over and over. Obviously,
we know you got we know you're being nailed to
the cross for the decision of the owners. That's your job.

(35:40):
You got to take that bullet. Okay, we get it,
But coming out saying things like this, now, come on now,
but see like, come on, come on now, check this out.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Patrick Dumont is reportedly frustrated with Niko Haser for not
warning him how the fan base would react to Luca trade.
Luca is the biggest thing in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
So you see what happens when you buy something and
you don't know what you have. You see, he bought
a team. This is his mom my mother in law
purchased the team and she ain't They have no idea
what they have about y other. It's like I buy
a store, but I don't know what in the store.
So what am I selling? And I say, you know what,
I'm gonna discontinue my number one selling item. Why don't

(36:22):
you tell me that was my number one selling item?
You bought the damn store. You should have thrown. However,
those team sources consistently expressed belief that Dumont no longer
sees Harrison as a figure with irreproachable basketball expertise. Most notably,
team and league sources say Dumont had had frustration with
Harrison not warning him, or perhaps even more damningly, being

(36:45):
unaware of the fandom outraged following the trade. Those same
sources say its same influence over Duma's decision to make
Harrison uppear last week closed media event, which Harrison did
not want to do. You see what I saying the owner,
You see what I said on Joe Awner makes the decision.
Why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you tell me

(37:08):
the fans was gonna be upset about me trading the
most popular player?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Who?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Why did you tell me that I got rid of
the best player in Dallas Maverick history. I know Dirk
Daviski won a championship, but Mark Cuba said, Dirk.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Can't see, can't see Luca. You trained it. You're supposed
to know that.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Normally, when you buy business, you're supposed to know how
to run it.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Oh Joe, Right, Joe, yeah, Joe, what do you think
about this? What what's going on? Luca is a global icon. Hey,
Nico is a good guy, bro, But I know he
got to you know, he got to take the fall
on this one. You know, he made that decision. Look,
the owners, they ain't gonna take the fall. They're gonna
blame it on Niko.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, that's why I got somebody to do that, take
the fall.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
But he's he's got up there publicly and took the
and took the fall himself, you know, saying that. You
know he's the one. He didn't discuss it with the
coaches and things of that sort. But man, you gotta
know how much local means of Dallas. Man, everybody knows.
I come on, man, this this is a global icon.
This ain't just you know what I mean? Yes, yes, hey,

(38:15):
you let all craft so you know what I think
we're gonna trade.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Michael Jordan, Yes, well I didn't know Chicago. I didn't know.
I didn't know Chicago was that rabbit of it. I
didn't know they loved the man that much. Yeah, really, Luka,
donc he just legend?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
So you coulda trade the guy that just led you
to the NBA Finals last year? Yeah, a guy that
was twenty five at the time you traded it, and
you had no idea that the fans would be upset?
Oh yo, what do you think would happen if the
Ravens traded off Mr Jackson or Kansas City traded Patrick

(38:51):
Mahomes And the GM said well a and the ownership
said a GM like.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, I didn't know. I didn't know Kansas City cared
about this man. It's kind of common sense, too, right,
they should have known. If you're the owners most of
the time, Let's say you're not paying attending to the team.
Let's say you don't understand the importance of said player
in Lucadancis.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
But I know you understand importance of money.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
You understand the importance of your bottom line and what
matters at the end of the day. And I know
you understand that number seventy seven is the driving force
of revenue coming through.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I bet you understand that.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
So why how would you not know, Let's say, if
you didn't understand basketball, just say you was only about
business and making money.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
At the end of the day, you do not have
to get rid of him.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Now you've got Nico Collins looking like a fool called
on the goddamn sword.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Matter of fact, to the point, I think they forced
him to do it because.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
He's saying such ridiculous stuff about them, not knowing that
they're using this as the ploy to be able to
fire him on the back end.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, look, and he take the whole brunt of the issue. Man, Listen,
I feel bad for Nico in this situation because you
gotta know better than that man. He's you know, I understand.
You know, maybe maybe they know something that we don't know. Joe,
they around him every day, you know, they come to

(40:09):
work every day. Maybe they ain't like some of his
habits that he had, and they ain't thinking thinking now sis,
they was thinking long term, like right this summer coming up. Man,
we got to come off about three some three to
be exact, three four to keep Joe talked to me, Joe,
what's that bad? What's that bad?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh, Joe?

Speaker 4 (40:33):
That Luke can be doing what we don't want to
invest thirty three hundred and forty five million and something
like that where you understand the product you're getting long
term on the court.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
What's that bad? Joe?

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Come on now, we ain't talking about no, no, no,
not going to jail, you know, not not not not
having a word about anything concerning the night life for
Luca Hookah.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Really beer is beer.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's also been reported that the Nuggets are gonna offer
Nakola Jokic three years, two hundred and seventeen million.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So he's not gonna take the He's not gonna take
the man.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know, Yokis is gonna take that three years, two
hundred and seventeen million from the Nuther And that's the
max he can get, yes, oh yeah, yeah, seventy million
a year. So they was like, we give Luca at
his money. It was gonna be five years, three forty five.
So when his contract up, Luca's gonna be thirty one.
He gonna be in line to get four. You're gonna
get another five year, four fifty, maybe even five hundred

(41:33):
at that point in time because this new contract, this
new Amazon, ESPN and I think who else NBC played seventy.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Seven billion will it be. But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
If I if I'm Nico Harrison, I tell my owner
our trading, but we're gonna get a tremendous backlatch because
Luka is is our best player, He's our most important player,
he's our most beloved player. I said, I'll do whatever
you asked me to do. I'll do whatever you tell
me to do. But I just want you to know

(42:09):
what comes along with trading it. Now, Hey, you might
the habit is that people keep saying about he likes whokh,
he's drinking whatever the case may be. I will trade
it at your requests, at your request, but I just
want you to understand this is going to be met
with huge opposition by the fan base. So I want

(42:33):
you to think about it for a day or two
before I make any calls, because this is not going
to go over well. He comes back, trade Luca. I'm
not giving him three forty five blah blah blah. We're
not making enough money to are you sure? Once he said, ay,

(42:56):
at a certain point in time, when a when the
commander give you that kill switch, you gotta go go
follow through with it, don't jo Joe?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
You know that once they say, was it a have
the targeted sight right and then back?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And that's why that's why I say, uh, the Mavericks
got cheated, man, because they weren't thinking Kyrie was gonna
be hurt at this point. They won't know by being
no playing team, you know, it would be a top
five to six seed like they was gonna they was
gonna get some teams some problems and without Kyrie, who
was probably not probably, but it's a major piece to

(43:32):
what we're trying to do because we lacked what rent
protection or or the inside presence.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
But you got Lively, you got Gafford, you got Powell,
you those gots. Think about it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
You got all the way to the NBA Finals last
year and you didn't have Anthony Davis, right, You just
ran into a better team.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
They were deeper than what you were.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
You had Tatum, you had Brown, you had White, you
have Prazingers for a couple of games, and Horford play well.
You had Holiday, you had guys coming in in your
tribute to Creighton, Brincher, Sam Hauser.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
You got that. That's where Celtics beat you. They're a
deep team.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Look at yesterday that game, Tatum, North, Brown, played well.
Derrick White was sensational. Crayton Pittrick is gonna probably be
six Man of a year. That's how you win a championship,
because when your big guns aren't fired.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's the small artillery that gets it done. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I'm gonna go to my boss. I'm gonna say I
will do what you asked me to do. But I
just want you to know. I don't think you understand.
Sports is a way of life in Texas. They're the
We're not the cowboys now we're not. But just know
there's gonna be huge resentment if we follow through with this.

(44:53):
Are you okay with this?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Sir? Okay? Hey? Yeah, Ron? What's going on? Hey? What's
up the GM for the Lakers? Rob lincern Hey, Rob?
What you doing? Man? I ain't doing nothing, Man ain't
just chilling. Hey what you think about?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Would you be really trade me ain D for Luca?
I gotta play it off. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I don't know about that one now, cold now because
we don't want a championship with a D. I mean,
he's a guy to give you twenty four and ten,
twenty four and eleven go block shots.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
He should have been Defensive Player of the Year. All
the while I'm like, he gone, I thought, Oh no,
are you sure? Are you sure? I ain't.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I want you to think about this. I want you
to think about I want the other end of the pole. Hell,
I'm gonna have to run this up the flagpole. I
gonna need to talk to Genie about this. We about Hey, Joe,
were about to get there, were about to get there.
Let me call you, hey, let me call you back, Genie.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I got me a fish? What you mean? What you mean, Rob?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Did you know Nico Harrison just called me and asked
me when we trade Ad for Luca plus plus a
player that's not named Leron Austin Reeves?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
And that first round draft pick in twenty twenty eight?
I hope you told him Yeah. I was like, no,
I'm just I'm pretending like I'm not interested. You know, Hey, hey, Nico,
So what's what?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Are you serious? I already got I already got a drink,
I already got the trade drawing up a d ad
Matt chris By Christy first round draft pick. Listen, listen, Nico, na,
I'm thinking about getting that post presence. So they can
create that mismatch with Kyrie and.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Ad in that pick up roll.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
They had to be what they was thinking about because
they my turn, your turn with him and Luca. Yeah,
they got them to the finals. The Boston's just too
tough for Man had too much. Yeah, Hell, Boston's gonna
be too tough for Kyrie and Ad because they got
Presingers to throw at it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
They got Al Horford to throw at it. They got
another big body.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Not what you're gonna do with j T, What you're
gonna do with JV, What you're gonna do with Derrick White,
what you're gonna do with Holiday, what you're gonna do
with Pritchett, Howser. They got so many ways to attack you.
You only got so much. It's not like it's not
like the the Mavericks are breath the breath of talent.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
They got good role players. I mean, Gaffard is an Okay,
okay's a great role player. Loudly, they do their job,
but they don't have what the Celtics have. That's what
makes the Celtics so tough. They got JB and j
T can give you thirty forty in a given game.
Okay they're off. Now you get Presingers or Derrick White,

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or you get Pritchett, or you get big Al Horford. Yes,
so this doesn't make sense to me because it's still
a two man team with not a whole lot of depth. Right.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, yeah, they they they ain't gotta figure it out.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Well they ain't got a choice now. Yeah, they gotta
figure out what they're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
This smer Charles Barkler sends a message to Niko, says,
I consider you my I see you, I consider you
a friend of mine. Don't do no more press conferences.
Don't even know what you're doing. I got sympathy love
for you, but I have zero idea what you're trying
to do. That's his owner sending him out there to
fall on the sword in front of everybody. Everybody knows

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that Nico Harrison didn't initiate this trade. Everybody knows that
a trade of this bagna true. That going to the owner,
Yeah that ain't that.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Ain't no trade. A that ain't no a for some
draft picks and some cash.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's your franchise, cornerstone, and you're trading him away before
he turns twenty six that's the ownership, because the owners said, Nico,
you ain't the one that's got to shell out three
hundred and forty five million guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
In the state of Texas with no state income tax
hold on. They think they think they slicked, though you
don't think ownership think they slick.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Not only have they sending a Nico out there to
fall on the sword, they sitting in the out there
saying ridiculous things. Well you see, so I really, I
really think it's a ploy I think it's aployee honestly
to fire him on the back end and to get
the fans of Dallas off their head and really put
the whole thing and on this on him by firing
Nico laid on down the line.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Because here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
The source the league to my most notably team in
League sources say Dumont has had frustration with Harison not
warning him or perhaps even more damningly, being unaware of
the fandom's outraged following the trade. You see, ah, Niko
Harrison is doing this that coin. What the what ownership

(50:09):
saying he code knew it. Yeah, he's been in this
position too long. Oh, Joe, he's been he's been around it.
He's been at Nike. Yeah, he's been added too long
for him.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Not to know.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
So I've got to go out there and parrot what
ownership is saying behind closed doors. That's why he keeps
having Remember he had a press conference with no cameras
and he said, defense win championships. I ain't trading, no Luca.
I don't ask the defensive player. I get better be

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Bill Russell, rested soul. He better be Bill Russell in
his pride, or Kee Elijah wanted somebody like that. I'm
not getting Come on, man, a twenty six year old
averaging twenty eight and eight a game, Yeah, averaging thirty
one in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I'm not giving that up.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And like I said, he had to send him out
there on that mission, basically a suicide mission to take
all that because anytime, what they say in the military,
Oh Joe, they have what they call a b on
blast radius. Oh yeah, okay, if we dropped this here,
what's the collateral damage? What's the blast radius? What is

(51:22):
our time that we need to get up?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Get up out of there, because you knew this this
fall out is gonna be like Chernobyl and when that
ractor went off in Russia and it destroyed everything for
a long, long period of time.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah, that's what this is. They ain't getting over this
anytime soon. They a getting over this.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I mean, hey, duck Boston eighty years to get over well,
eighty years to get over that when they traded Babe Ruth.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Let's see, they ain't getting over this anytime soon. They said,
it ain't another Luca walking through that door.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
No, and I think he got about another ten, maybe
twelve years to play, so they gonna feel the wrath.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Of this trade for a very long time as long
as he is a Laker. Hey, look, J J.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Reddick said today was the best practice we've had in
months as LA prepared for Game two. He admitted that
that had the Lakers approached the off days leading up
to the playoffs with the same vigor, then maybe we
wouldn't have appeared as flat as we did on Saturday's
twenty two point loss. We probably could have done a
few a few more scrimmages. Joe, do the Lakers rebound

(52:33):
and tied up at one one? Go to Minnesota? Or
does Minnesota take a command thing t o lead h
Sorry to tell you, brother, but oh it's over. I
ain't saying it's over, man. I don't know, Joe, but
my gut feeling, yeah, Aya take a proboty that gut

(52:56):
on you. You feel better?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Hey, Hey, I got the timber.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
World ons trying to be greedy Game two, knowing what's
at State, knowing that they can, you know, uh uh
come out and just put put their will to the
test and try and get this dub and go back
to Minnesota. Man, Hopefully they don't come back to LA now.
I know, you know, are going to La to come out,
and you know they're gonna need that third score. We

(53:22):
need Austin Reeves to you know, give them a spark, man,
they need some. I think ad Man is playing pretty
good defense on him, fighting over kicks like I think
a man that are doing them both fans. I know
he didn't he didn't explode offensively, but defensively he's been great.
And obviously the guys around him the others, Like we
always say, if those guys chip in mcdame's and Reid
and they play the way they playing now, I don't

(53:44):
know if they're gonna shoot like that in game one,
But I don't know if a.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Man that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
You believe they're gonna make nineteen. You believe they're gonna
make nine twenty twenty plus threes. They may not, but
I don't think that man gonna havend no seventeen points neither.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'll give ad as long as they don't make forty
three threes, because he can beat us with forty. It's
the twenty three threes that's gonna crush it.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Hey, look, the Laker's gonna have to step up man
and uh protect protect home. You know you you're gonna
need Braun to come out and be aggressive. So what
if Luca catch how you need to catch high with him?
But you know the thing, oh Joe, You know the
thing is player get hot. What you do? You feeding
the ball, You get out of the way until he
missed a couple, and then you try to get in
the river. But intil the meantime because where Luca catch fire?

(54:31):
He catched fire? Yeah, yeah, I mean he liable to
go for twenty and a quarter like that. It's fun
to walk and you don't want to you don't want
to get in his way. Go ahead, Joe, I said, yeah,
it's fun to watch when he gets it, when he
gets going. But you know, Broun has a tendency to
do that. You know, if even if Ar gets off
to a great start, he'll make sure Ar get his
touches in that first quarter. And uh, he got to
find a way to get other others going and get

(54:53):
himself going in order for them to be effective in
this series. Look, the Temple Hoards are young, man, they
gonna be flying around McDade.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, there's and.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Man like those guys gonna fly around, play hard cause
having the vintdo's.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I like the make up of their team.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Man, they're ready for the postseason, like I said, are
and man, he he done took some guys out.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Man, he didn't took a few. He feeling good about himself.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You know he won't he want that Luca and U
Lebron peeled on the wall like he got that Ky,
like he got that NICOLEA Yoki just pel Yeah, that'd
be big.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
But I think the thing is, we get this game,
the Lakers get this game here. What is the next game?
He said? You think you know I've said the Lakers
get this game here.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
They're gonna have two three days off because you gotta
travel with the next game Thursday or Friday. They gotta
win in game two. You gotta think about that, Joe.
We had two days off. Win that one, got two

(55:57):
more days off. Huh, people, hold on.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
You skipping. You gotta win game two first. Oh, you
gotta win game too first. You show what you show
is that here?

Speaker 4 (56:17):
I'm just asking because hold on listen in order for
to win game too. Now, I'm not listen.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I'm listening.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
I ain't the bookie. I don't bet and I don't gamble.
But Lebron will have to come out and be Oh,
you know what, I need to get right first. I
need to get right first. My approach to this game.
My approach to game too can't be like the last one.
I can't sit around and facilitate. I got to have
that killer mentality. He has that a little bit, but
he has to come out this game and have it early.
I gotta set the tone. He gotta set the intensity.

(56:48):
I expect him to have it. Okay, okay, I'm just
making show now because I would love. I would I
would love I would love to see legas are fine,
but what I see game.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It ain't looking good.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
But JJ we probably could have done a few more scrimmages.
That's on you. You the coach.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
You said down tender, and you set the practice schedule,
rhythm and timing that exactly. And it's the playoffs. I mean,
even if I don't tell you, Joe, you know what
it is. You know, the intensity turns up.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Everybody's everybody on this roster with the exceptional connect has
been in the playoffs. Okay, the young guys, they don't owe,
but Lebron, Luca, ar Phinney, Smith, Vanderbilt, Jackson, Ave, all
those guys have been in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
They know, Gave Vinson, they know what's at stake.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
So it's your job to pull the young guys along
and let them know what's at state the intensity. You're
not gonna get those Tiki tag file calls like you
would in the regular season. They're gonna let you play,
so be prepared. The twenty twenty five NBA Awards finalists
worldnounced MVP, Nicola Jokic, Shae Gilgos, Alexander Giannis, Antetokumpo, Defensive

(58:10):
Player of the Year, Dyson Daniels, Draymond Green, Evan Mobley,
Rookie of the years, Stefan Castle, Zacharyy Raschier, Jalen Wells,
the sixth Man of the Year, Malik Beezey Beasley, Tad
Jerome and Peyton Pritchett. All Right, Joe, who you got MVP?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
I got Shae. I got Shaye go ahead. Defensive Player
of the Year and running off for again defensive players of.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Dyson Daniels, Hawks, Draymond Green Warriors, Evan Mobley Cavaliers. I
got Dyson Daniels, Okay, Rookie of the Year Castle, Uh San,
Antonio Rashier Atlanta, Jalen Wells, I think he plays at Memphis.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I got I got Castle, Castle, Ben and he's pretty
consistent this year.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Love, I agree even player sixth Man of the Year,
Blik Beasley, UH Detroit Tied, Jerome Cavaliers, Peyton Pritchard Celtics.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'm going Peyton Pritcher. I'm going to pay it.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I can see that it's been consistent, and you know,
when it when it's his time to shine or when
this moment you know comes, he always shows up.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So I'm going to Payton Pritcher.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Who you like?

Speaker 4 (59:28):
O yoemm gi gi give him my categories of my
name h VP, Nicola Jokic oh l s yeah, okay,
you can stop there s c A S y A.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
That's men b P. It's been the MVP for a
long time. But go ahead.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Defensive Player of the Year, you got Daniels, Draymond Green
or Evan Mobley, Oh damn. Rookie of the Year Castle Rascher,
Jalen Wells Castle, you Beasley tied your own, Peyton Pritcher,
Oh Pritchar.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Most improved Player Joe K. Cunningham. He beats Dyson Daniels.
M that's doing. I'm going I think they want how
many games they want? Sixteen last year?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Uh yeah, you're the number one overall pick. You should
be ineligible before this reward. It should go to us.
It should go to zuba he had he had the
high score. Haveage No, I think, I think I think
Zubo's average double double career hiding points everybouy Okay. Coach

(01:00:39):
of the Year, you got Kenny Atkinson, JB. Bickerstaff. I
make ka, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna make You're gonna
They're gonna go Atkinson. But I think to beat the
sixth seed after winning, after winning like fifties sixt game

(01:01:00):
last year. Yeah, with the clutch player, Nicola Jokic, Jaylen Brunson,
ad Man, You said clutch player, yep, Jaylen Brunson. Who else, Yo,
kid a man, Damn, that's a good one. M Big

(01:01:20):
Body Brunton boy, Big Body Brunton man. Hey, listen, I'm
not gonna lie y'all. He skipped me down the streets
when they playing Detroit or just any game. You know
what I mean. Because he gonna make a play. He
gonna either get filed or he gonna score. I'm going,
big body Brunton man. I like that they call that
time out and then you're raning down the baseline. He

(01:01:41):
went and got that three pointer. Said that was a
good call. Tis out of a time out? Grade? Are
they any surprises? Are there anybody that you think should
have been on that got left off? Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
No, I don't think so. Who you got your clutch player? Yo,
Kitch Bronson and Edwards? Yeah, I'm going. I'm going with
Jedden every time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
And I think Jalen has been in more clutch situations
the show. Why he's clutched now, I'm not saying, man,
isn't I'm not saying joker, isn't. I'm just saying he's
been in more situations to be able to display that clutch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Geen Coach of the Year got Kenny Atkinson, JB. Bickerstaff,
I make.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I made you talking about the boy was shortry last year?
Want nothing to watch? No disrespect. Hey that boy Jalen
Green nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Though I couldn't tell he be he hadn't played well
the last couple of games on Joel, he had been bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Hey, right, the lost game one to on Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's gonna be hard man playing against he got that
championship pedigree over there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Hey them boy balling man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
And that's what and that's what really concerned me about
the Rockets, Joe, is that they don't have a ball
to guy that can give the ball to They got
they got a collective group of guys. But if you
think about it, everybody for the most part, got a
guy you can hand the ball to it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
He go get your bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, they're the only team don't even if you look
at the you look at the Thunder they got shape.
If you look at Memphis, they got job. The Lakers
got two or three guys. You look at everybody that's
in the West, they got a guy Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler. Everybody,
every team has a guy you can handle the ball

(01:03:28):
and even gonna get your bucket and this Rockets don't
have that. This is what the playoffs about too. Like
I tell you, we know you plays, we know what
you're running. Were switching everything and now you gotta get
a bucket.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
And you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
The Rockets hadn't had anybody who can efficiently, you know,
be reliable to wear down the streets. We're like, okay,
we can get a bucket on a fire. We give
him the ball, and you know, you know what the
Warriors got Steph. Yeah, well, let's we got amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
On in his role. Them other guys, Uh, the Moodies,
those other guys playing well too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
They their garden. They're defending and uh they're playing. They're
playing like you know, this is it man. They know
Game one is always like the best game to get easy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Wanted to steal. You need a statement earlier made a
statement early, Yeah, Joe, many think trade was ice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Trade was snubbed to Cloach, called clutch player, he buried
three game win He shots the most by any player
in the NBA this season. The final ten second sports
quarter overtime, he owned it, plus thirty four in clutch
games this season.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
You're right, I forgot about ice trade. He does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
But here's the thing, everybody else team in the playoffs,
I know that's the only thing outside of that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Look hold up, Oh, we were fighting the Hawks. We
were fighting earlier in the year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
We get Jalen Jalen Jaylen Johnson go down in January
and it just kind of took our hopes away. He
was there, he was he was missed to doing mister everything. Yeah,
walking double double and at the time I think we
were in the playoffs before he got hurt and were
playing good basketball. So I'm looking for my Hawks man,
to get healthy. You know, we got a lot of

(01:05:09):
young guys who gained a lot who gained some great experience,
you know, playing in that playing game and understanding the
magnitude of what playoffs basketball is like. Man, we just
got to stay healthy, come back next year and uh
have have have a rememorable season.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
But hopefully we can keep tray around.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I've been here in a lot of rumors, but I
want to be out around. Hey, Joe, I got a
question for you, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Speaking of that playing game, Yeah, y'all played again in
some of those players getting some playoff experience.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Who y'all lost to again? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
We lost to the heat OCHI okay, okay, I just
want to say, I want to make sure you understood
and remember that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
We Oho, we got too. We got two of our
starters out big Uh what's my big center name? Uh?
We got Jason Oh, Clint Compella was compell ha been out,
he been out. Clint's been out for a minute. So
I'll show y'all. Hey, y'all had y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Wait, man, y'all had y'all farther, you know, congrat but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Wait, wait, hold on now now man you now, man
you Jimmy Butler were gone right yeah, m so so
collectively as a team, I'm not we don't have a
guy you can actually go to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
We have Bam, we got I'm talking about that guy.
I'm talking about that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
So you're putting Ty the hero in the same conversations
with your ant man's and your and your your Steph
Curry's okay, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
To go to him. Yeah, you guy? Now? Oh okay, okay,
that's what we're doing. Is that what we're doing?

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Yeah, but that but that's your guy. No, I'm not
saying he equivalent to those guys, but that's he's got me. Okay,
that's that's why I understand that. But Jimmy Butler was
that guy before you get you know what I'm saying.
So you lose the guy and then someone else just
just become the guy, because if you that guy, you
that guy regards who's around you, the volume