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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we are back on the way concept
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presented by the Ring. Today, we're going to move out
of the influencer boxing scene at least a lot more
than we have really ever taken that step on this channel.
In the future, starting with our next video, we're gonna
cover all of the big fights that are coming up
on the ring in the next couple of weeks. I'm
talking you Bang Junior, Connor Ben, I'm talking the May
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second Times Square Card, the Big Three car talking May third, Canelo,
and not to forget, I'm talking about this weekend with
Jerry Boots, Ennis and Inmantes Stanionis. So all those big
fights were gonna cover, but today I have to issue
a respond. It feels like twenty twenty three because I've
already kind of made this video, but I'm gonna make
it again because I feel the need to respond one
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more time to KSI. And I'm only recording this video
because I want to set the record string I am
done beefing. I'm moving on to other things that I
want to do in my career, and this feels like
it's still lingering today. It's pretty simple. I'm gonna put
it rest, point blank. Period. What do I mean the breakdown.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hey, you guys, if you've been on the channel in
the last two years, three years, ever many years, you
know there's a bit of an odd back and forth
between myself and KSI, and last week it all kind
of spilled over. KSI had to pull out of his fight.
There was a back and forth on Twitter. Wasn't a
shot I was taking it, but he took the bullet anyway,
anything spiraled out of control again. Well, since that time,
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he's made a video entitled My Boxing Career where I've
seen some clips where he essentially is going to talk
about what he thinks he should do with the rest
of his career. So I'll take a look at it,
and I'm just gonna let you guys know beforehand, I
kind of told you this was coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Fat nik has lost it. Laughed my ass off.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's great. He's doing a Reddit video just a fat
Nique thing. Just continues to follow him. Our fat Nique
has lost it as a wild title for Reddit posts.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh yeah, actually, let me get that tweet off. So wait,
tweet this. After the fight when me and Dylan Danis
got postponed, I trained also for all the shit that
was talked about Dylan Danis pulling out of this fight.
Credit where credit is due. He was going to show up,
This event was being carried promo wise by him. Don't
agree with that, but anyway, and I get that KSI sick,
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but I gotta give Dylan some credit here. He was
ready to go. I don't know, like now, you gotta
remember way, it has just been jabbing at me for years, constantly.
For me, after having to postpone the fight because I
got sick, I was pissed. I was angry because I
was training my fucking ass off. You could see that
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I was training my fucking asshole. So then for me
to get this illness, and then I was trying to
train through the illness, and I got more ill to
the point where I physically couldn't train and I physically
couldn't fight. It broke my heart. It broke me because
I trained so hard for this one moment and I
wasn't able to get this. More went and I felt
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like I trained for nothing, and I felt like I
let so many people down, you know, everyone working at Misfits,
all the fighters, all the trainers, et cetera. I let
everyone down and I'm still trying to do it, but
I just I couldn't and I'm taking antibiotics and it
weren't working. I had to take another set of antibiotics.
I'm doing everything just to try and get better. I'm
not getting better. It's just it's so frustrating and bro like,
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when I had to, you know, tell Man's and everyone
else that I don't think I'm gonna be able to
do this fight at the state that we were meant
to do it. But I broke down. Man. You know,
I'm there crying, bro in in my room, just crying because,
like I said, I felt like I just let everyone down.
So then you know, I go online and I see
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all this shit and you know, people just jabbing at me,
and it was just way bro. He just normally I
just ignore it. Normally I just ignore it. But he
just kissed me off and I just lost my ship.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Mat While it would be very easy for me to
continue doing this thing, I point out little pieces of
information that JJ's just like completely wrong about. For example,
number one, No, I didn't say, yeah, this is a
great look for Jake and Mike. That's not what I said.
In fact, I did say that Jake Paul fighting Mike
Tyson was a bad idea for Mike. It was not good.
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Mike should not take the fight and should not have
been fighting, and that Jake was gonna hurt him very,
very badly. Luckily that didn't happen. And yes, maybe my
affiliation with the card was the reason that it felt
like I was, in his words, sucking someone off. And
yes I did have a live stream from the card
because I was asked to do so, and it was
an opportunity for me and my dad to watch Mike
Tyson and other fighters on that card. In fact, my
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dad's favorite fight of the night wasn't Jake and Mike.
It was actually a Man of Serono and Katie Taylor,
as is now being heralded, the people's main event from
that car. So sure, if JJ sees it as a
why aren't you as tough on Jake as you are
on me? Type of thing? Okay uh. But at the
same time, I do at least try my best to
be as biased as I can be, and I genuinely
mean that people aren't gonna believe it, but it is
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what it is. I do try that, and in all earnestness,
the tweet that he got upset about was not a
shot at jj And when he says I take shots
at him, I disagree. I think if anything, especially in
the case of jj elis I'm not gonna say I'm
innocent that I've never taken a shot at someone, but
in his case, I think I've been more than charitable
with KSI. In fact, the shots I've taken at him
have been returned fire for the things that he's said
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about me. If I've criticized him as a boxer, if
I've said that I didn't agree with a certain fight,
or I didn't think that he was improving at the
same rate as a Jake Paul or somebody else that
I would talk about normally, those are just critical things,
opinion based from a commentator that of course, and we've
been through this on this channel. I'm going to say,
and that's out of his control, and maybe that's a
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big problem for him. But the only things that I've
ever taken shots at him personally over or when the
personal shots were thrown my way to begin. And I
say all that just for clarification, because he talks about
me taking jabs for years, that's not been the case.
Have I been critical of some things that JJ's done,
for sure? Have I been critical of things Jake's done.
For sure. I've been critical of things that Logan Paul's done,
for sure, Ryan Garcia for sure, Connor McGregor for sure,
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John Jones for sure. And that's just a short list.
I have opinions on combat sports and combat sports athletes,
and I'm gonna say that, but this reaction from him
right the telling of all of the struggles that went
into this fight. I knew that, and I said that
when the fight was canceled and he was sick and
he was confident and he was talking about how hard
it was from I was one of the first people
that said, damn, this sucks. No one can control this.
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A sickness is not something that JJ's faking, and obviously
it happens in combat sports. On to the next one.
My only goal with that tweet was to give Dylan
Dannis a little bit of credit because the entire internet
constantly had shat all over the guy. Myself included. This
was a gun pointed at me to say, hey, you
know what for all the things I and other people said,
and it wasn't even including JJ, but obviously he took
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it that way. I do think Dylan deserves some credit
for this time doing the job he said he was
going to do, or at least be in a position
to do that. That's all. But this video, when I
watched this part, and I think there's more here that
we'll get into in a second, but this heart of
the video as a person a person thing to JJ,
because I think this is the kind of last time
he talks about me, I just want to say this, JJ,
I don't hate you. I never have. In fact, I
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think i've said in videos before. I when I met you,
was super impressed by you still am your work ethic,
your ability to fight, your ability to do music sidemen,
all of these things. Obviously things broke the way they
did because I do have opinions that you may not
agree with, and you know how you handled them publicly
and how you spoke to me publicly were I thought
the beginning point of issues between you and IT and
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since then there hasn't really been anything personal other than
my personal takes on your boxing career. But what I'm
starting to see out of that video alone, just that
little portion of the video was just the emotional uncomfortable,
frustrated look on JJ's face, and honestly, no joke, I'm
not even trying to troll. It looked like he was
gonna cry explaining all the things that went down for
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this fight not to go over the way it should have.
And to me, that's sad, not in a oh look,
how embarrassing this is way, but no, like genuinely empathizing
four kid. That's a sad thing. Regardless of how he
perceives my relationship with Jake or him or influencer probo,
any of that. I'm kind of done beef, and as
a human, I just look at the guy and go, man, yeah,
he put a lot of pressure on himself here and
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it didn't work out the way he won, and that
hasn't happened a lot for JJ, so he's having a
hard time dealing with it, and I just want to
clear it up and make sure you guys know that
that sucks. Man. I genuinely don't like seeing him like that,
and I don't even know him super well. So maybe
in retrospect, and I kind of tweeted the same thing,
maybe maybe I should have realized that even if you know,
I didn't have a you know, close knit personal relationship
with this guy, that it didn't mean he didn't take
my words to heart, and that they wouldn't affect him
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more than even I understood they would. So in that respect,
I'll man up and say, you know what, my bad.
I never meant to come across as as hateful towards JJ,
whether it was jokes or anything like that. I honestly
never meant to come across like I hated the guy
or wanted things to go badly for him. Someone toad
this on Twitter, and the replies and this this kind
of stuck with me said, he likes you a lot
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more than you like him. That's why your words hurt
more than his to you. I don't hate JJ, obviously,
I'm not super close with him or have any sort
of personal relationship with him. But if that's the case,
and maybe I've just been thinking about this thing all wrong,
then again, I my bad. I never thought of it
like that. I don't know if that's the case, but
if it is, then yeah, like I said, in retrospect,
maybe I should realize how much the stuff I was saying,
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whether I meant them to be personal shots or just
you know, either constructive or just regular criticism of his
boxing journey, training style, fights, whatever. Maybe I should have
realized that they could have affected him a lot more
than even I understood or gave any sort of credence to.
And I say all that just because I want to
wrap this kind of beef thing up by saying I
don't hate JJ and I never have and I never
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will again. I'm impressed by the guy's work ethic, by
what he's made out of himself from nothing, you know,
literally nothing, to become an icon in the UK, and
the success and all the stuff he's done. I do
think the guy has a good heart. I just think
he's a super emotional guy, wears his heart on his sleeve,
and I just think it sometimes he doesn't stop to think,
or maybe he doesn't, but regardless that the message he
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is receiving and the way he's deciphering it is the
same way that the message was saying. And again, I
don't know what's gonna happen with JJNX. We're about to
watch the second part of this clip where he talks
about the rest of his boxing career. I don't know
what he does next, but I'll tell you this, I
hope for the best for whatever he does, whether that's boxing, music, sidemen,
Britain's got talent, whatever, I want him to succeed. I've
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wanted influencer boxing to succeed. Influencer boxing put me in
a position to do this that I can only be
grateful for it. So yeah, I don't have any ill
will toward KSI, And regardless how he feels what he thinks,
I genuinely want the best for especially it seems like
right now where nothing on the boxing side is going
his way, he could use a win and JJ, if
you're watching this, I don't just mean in the ring,
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but with that being said, it may not be in
the ring because he is having some reservations on fighting.
Let's take a look at what else he had to say.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I know how the internet works, I know how this
game goes. If I tried to fight and manage to
get into the ring and how to shit performance, no
one would care that I was ill. No one would
care I was sick. Everyone would have just looked at
the performance and said, Wow, Kasite struggled against Dylan donas
he's as he's not that good. Actually, maybe he's over hyped,
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like that's just it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
People.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're only as good as your last performance.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And to be fair, he knows that because he has
seen the combat sports game and this has happened. It
happened with and the guy across the aisle, Jake Ball
and the Tommy Fury. Fight's happened with fighters for years
that they go into a fight not one hundred percent
and they come out of it even if they win
or potentially they lose, and it's not good. It does
leave the fight fans a bit deflated, like we thought
you were better than you were. This changes everything type
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of thing. And again, if JJ was sick and he
had to pull out of the fight like that, that
happens is combat sports. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
We move on, so scret, I don't care what anyone says.
I need to just focus on me and I need
to get better before I even make any decision about
what I'm going to do in the future. So that's
why I'm out right now in terms of when I'm
gonna be fighting next. Honestly, I don't know the reasons
why I can't say when I could fight next. A
lot of the reasons are above me. There's also other
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things that need to be sorted. But yeah, in terms
of my boxing situation, it's been unlucky. It's been like Arsenal,
We've been so unlucky.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Mo Is editing for you said, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
With the amount of injuries that we've had, the amount
of problems and situations that we've ended up in with
the red cards, et cetera. Like that's how I feel.
I've just been unlucky with the two fights one night
and then getting injured, or even back when I was
fighting Joe Fournier and I, you know, knocked him out
with my forearm, or me losing to Tommy Fury when
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I shouldn't have lost, Like it's just been unlucky, or
even you know, going back to me fighting face Temper
when I was meant to be fighting Dylan Danis. You
know I didn't want to be fighting Temper. You know,
I can even go back to me doing the two
fights and one night, you know, Visus Swarms wasn't meant
to be a thing MeVis and Pineda was.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I really wish they still had the poster of Swarms
with his T shirt on. I would have died laughing
at that. Oks I was talking about how unlucky he
has been, and to a degree, he's right. He has
been unlucky with fighter pull out, scheduling, things that have
happened that are not under his control, like it was
supposed to be Alex with Sabi he got her two
v one. Although KSI did react a little odd to
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Alex getting hurt, and I think that's kind of where
all the irony comes back to him being hurt. But yes,
it wasn't his fault for that. It wasn't his fault
that Dylan pulled out of their first fight and he
had to fight temper and by the way, he won.
Dull Joe Fournier thing, I don't even know what you
say about that he hit him with his elbow. It
was unintentional. It clearly wasn't on purpose, just an odd thing,
And yeah, it's kind of unlucky for the company that's
something like that happened. You can argue it's a lack
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of you know, proper technique to throw that punch, but
it's more a freak accident than anything else. That he
hit Joe with his forarm instead of his fist. I mean,
he was very close to hitting with this and as
far as being unlucky in the Tommy Fury fight, I
don't know if you can claim that for that one. Yeah,
I thought that fight should have been a draw. Watching
it back, I can see where Tommy got the victory.
But it's not a stroke of bad luck. It's more
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of an eye opening experience, or at least I would
think so, like, Okay, this is where you met a roadblock,
and how do you overcome that? Right? How do how
do things get better? How do you change to become
better than that? It's not about bad luck, It's more
about changing and becoming better. That's the way I look
at the Tommy Fury for using it as motivation to
become better. And again with the Dylan Danis fight, Yeah,
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you can call it unlucky that Casi got sick, but
you can also look at, you know, the choices made
while he was sick to continue to try to train
through and again credit to him, that's the fortitude, the
will to keep going all of that. But sometimes you
got to be smarter than to continually break your body
down and overtrain and put yourself in really bad positions
so that you can't recover and then go into the
fight healthier, at least somewhat healthy. So yeah, some of
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it unlucky, some of it decision making, some of it
adjusting to the levels rising and boxing. I know the
way ks I is looking at it. But at the
end of the day, it's more more than just battle.
You do have to take some responsibility for some of
the things, just to get better, right, just to continue boxing,
if that's something KSI wants to do, which I am
not so sure it is.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
My boxing career since I've come back has just been
problem of the problem of the problem and just being
unlucky over and over and over and over again. And
it's a shame. It's a shame and it's frustrating. And
I know how my fans feel. How do you think
I feel like the about of stress that I've gone
through the past few years, even with Misfits in general, Like,
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it's been stressful just trying to, you know, make sure
everyone is doing well, make sure everyone is get something
out of the scene. It's stressful. I feel like I've
aged in these two and a half years of Misfits
being created. So where am I in terms of boxing?
I don't know. I don't know. Am I gonna retire.
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I don't know, you know, am I going to fight again?
I don't know. There's just so many things just gang
in the way. I don't know if any of that
made sense, or maybe I just said a whole lot
of nothing. In terms of boxing, well, twenty twenty two
to now, it's just been complicated, unlucky side.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean to a degree, He's right, it has
been very problematic his entire boxing comeback now. You know,
Misfits I think is a net good in that comeback.
I think it's given people a lot of opportunities, myself included.
And I think it's been a way for people to
reinvent themselves in some cases, content creators that aren't necessarily
thriving in the chosen content that used to create coming
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over and reinventing and becoming something else, slim, it's all
poppy GiB et, cetera. And in that case case, I
deserve to thank you, right, I don't think that's a
controversial thing to say, Like, yes, he should get a
thank you from people like me, by the way, thank
you and others that did benefit from Misfits being around.
And I don't think he's asking for that there. I'm
just saying that is a big important thing that's being
missed out while everything else was complicated, and it's stressful.
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And trust, even when he says he's aging because of
the stress that Misfits is causing, I get I'm not
obviously in the weeds of it, but I can understand
that's probably ridiculously stressful to not only be a fighter
but also be the CEO, which is why when I
see him talking like this, when I see how excited
he is about other stuff. I just watched him on
stream today previewing a new song that he's gonna bring out,
and I've seen him, you know, more excited about the
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prime he's got, the baller thing, the soccer league that
he's doing. I think all of these things are a
little more interesting to him right now, and they don't
involve him breaking his back every day trying to go
and train and putting himself through massive stress on his body,
just physical stress that leads to mental stress. I'm gonna
tell you guys, I said this over on the breakdown
with sense I think it's more likely than not that
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KSI is either going to take a long break or
he might be done and I try to tell you
guys this a couple of weeks ago. When you put
so much effort into something and it doesn't go the
way you plan and then you try to pick yourself
back up and it doesn't go the way you planned again,
or you have this many problems or X, Y and
z it, potentially it comes more of a frivolous venture
to continue doing it just because you said you would
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do it, or just because you want to do it,
when in reality, the want that KSI has for boxing,
the desire is at least physically from what I see,
evaporating very quickly. He seems to just not be super
concerned with doing it. There doesn't seem to be a
fire behind it. I want to get that loss back
from Tommy Fury. I want to go through another training
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camp and reschedule that Dylan Danni's fight. Unless the name
is Jake Paul across from Ksi, it just doesn't seem
like he wants to do it. And again I've said
this before, but I'll say it again. That's okay, and
that may even be a good thing because ultimately a
lot of you guys there are fans of this channel,
are fans of KSI's and I think for you, you
want to see him happy because when he is happy,
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when he is doing what he wants to do, the
content is better for it. You can see how much
more engaged he is and things start to build and
prosper from it. If you are, as they say, one
cheek in this thing aka half assing boxing, it's not
gonna work out. You're not gonna win a fight. You
could potentially get really hurt in really damage yourself in
ways that aren't recoverable. And I know we always talk
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about it, but you really just can't play this sport.
You're fully in or you're fully out. And I think
right now KSI is slowly kind of looking at the
scene and potentially moving fully out. But that's where I'll
leave it, honestly, because I think that's all that really
needs to be said. I don't need to drag this
out any further. I just I wanted to do this
video to make it very clear and to hopefully kill
all this beef talk. I have no ill will towards JJ.
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If he does toward me, that's fine. I still want
him to do what's best for him. I still want
misfits to thrive I still want all of the people
that get opportunities because of that to get those same opportunities.
I just think it's silly because he's right. I know
how the internet works as well, and things get clipped
and sent and out of context. Sentences mean a little
more when you're a little bit more emotional about things,
and I just don't want to do it anymore. In fact,
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I'll I'll put the olive branch out there if KSI
ever wants to sit down and have a full on
conversation about it on camera off if he doesn't appreciate
at the opportunities JJ, thank you for helping me break through.
This is where I pick up the shovel and bury
this beat. It's over at least on this side. So
that's my response to KSI. You guys, let me know
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what you think down below, and stay tuned because this
week we have content coming out with the man himself,
true Jordi. That's an exclusive. Here we have the ring
card Jared Boots Ennis and in Montes stanionis going at
it for some gold in one hundred and forty seven
pound division. We're gonna be live for that on Saturday,
presented by the Rings you guys don't want to miss
that one. And yeah, guys, we're on our own new journey.
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Jump on the train now before it gets too full.
And what happens next in the wild, wild world of
combat sports. I don't have those answer, and I just
wanted to get on here one last time and say
I'm done with the beef jj. I want nothing but
the best for you man, genuinely, for the rest of you, guys,
I love you. I'll see you next time.