November 20, 2022 • 59 mins
Jen Landon (“Teeter”) reunites with Bunkhousemate Jefferson to co-host this season of The Official Yellowstone Podcast. New political power, a family tragedy, and a pack of troublesome wolves — Jefferson and Jen recap the first three episodes of Yellowstone Season 5. They debrief all the current plotlines including new enemies and allies that have debuted this season, like Sarah Atwood (Dawn Olivieri) and Clara Brewer (Lilli Kay). Along the way, they share insights about which of their fellow cast members are real-life cowboys, stunts, and even robot dancing on set.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, guys, Jefferson White Here, I play Jimmy Hurts from
on the Paramount Network original series Yellowstone. Yellowstone is back.
It's bigger and better than ever. Season five of Yellowstone
is the biggest season yet and things are no different
here on the Official Yellowstone Podcast. And so I've got
a really, really exciting announcement for you coming up right
(00:33):
after this break. This season of the Official Yellowstone Podcast
is going to be bigger than ever, better than ever.
And my first big piece of news is we are joined. Well,
I'll let her introduce herself.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What's your name? Ti?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Here?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Tight Hart? Since she said your name Peter Loolock, motherfucker?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Name is Peter, you skunk hard motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We are joined by the incredible, the one of a
kind Jennifer Land and Jen. Thank you so much for
being here.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Well, my guest, Jeff, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's also it seems a bit ironic that the one
person on the show that you can't understand it all
is now joining you for.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
An entirely auditory experience of the show. So in case.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Anybody doesn't know that, this is how I speak in
real life.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Hello, Yeah, Jen, Oh my god, that's such a good point.
It's so funny. Folks know you as Teeter, they know
you with Teeter's incredible, incomprehensible accent. What an amazing thing.
Some folks are gonna be hearing your real voice for
the first time here.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, which which I think very very well could be
the case, because as I moved through the world and
people have approached me of the one of the first
things they say is they were quite nervous as to
like how I would respond to them, and if I
would if they would be able to understand what I
was saying to them when I said, like, yes, I
(02:15):
am t You're nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, that's so funny because in real life you're so
you have incredible diction and elocution.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I think that I have.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think I've tried to hide my California accent for
most of my life. I don't know why I had.
I was born with some some sort of shame around
being from La So yeah, I think I almost drive
a mid Atlantic at times.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You do you, I feel like, do you overcompensate now
as folks come up to you and say tater.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I think sometimes I'm like suck. I think I just
like go right in. People are oftentimes like very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
They're like they're like, hey, hey, will you call me
a skunkhred filling the rest of that sentence, And I'm like, sure,
don't sue me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's so funny. People want you to roast them, they do.
That's funny because people want to roast me. Most people
come up to me and say, shut the fuck up, Jimmy,
and people want you to roast them. That's so funny.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
That is Are we allowed to drop the f bumb
on the show?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This is exciting, Jin What an honor it is to
have you here, What an honor to uh to be
co hosting this thing together.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't believe it. There is no one in the
world that I would rather spend this time with than you.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Jeff.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I feel the same way, especially since I feel like
we were torn apart by storylines, you know when each other.
We were torn apart years ago. Now, I mean it
was two seasons. It'll be a whole season for the audience.
But we shot season four in twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Twenty twenty summer twenty twenty, right, and.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Then we were torn apart a few episodes in.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, it's funny. While we were working on season four,
I was at least up in Montana because Jimmy started
season four up in Montana. Now I'm really feeling the
effects of the banishment for the first time. You know,
it feels so strange to have been far away from
you guys for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Well, you're missed, like not only in the bunk house
on the show. But the vibe is not the same.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Can you imagine can you imagine if everybody was like that? Yeah, Jeff,
the vibe is way better. We don't know what it was.
Something was just kind of cursed about season one through
four and season five, we're just having a good time.
It feels like, oh, weight has been lifted.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
It just feels breezier. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, about about two hundred pounds of dead weight just
hanging around your neck for four seasons. Well, I hope
you're happy, Jen, you got you want it?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Hey, Well we're talking about poundage real quick, like I
don't And by the way, please producer step in and
the recording and we'll go back. Jeff, can I can
we like, does the audience know that you have like
you are swol Like your muscle gain is like overwhelming,
Like there's no way that we can hit the word
(05:21):
pounds without me being like Jefferson White, legitimate, legitimately put
on like forty pounds of muscle and.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Then I lost it all again.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's not true, that's not true. I saw you in
a public setting, just to be clear, and you are ripped.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh, that's very very generous of you. The audience, you know,
they've got a lot to catch up. We know a
little bit more than they do, so so far we're
staying a little bit ahead of them, and they can
have they'll have their own relationship to my uh my
body dys morphia in a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Here.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I love body dysmorphia. It keeps all of us looking
really good.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, yeah, welcome to Hollywood. It keeps almost looking really
good and feeling really badly bad. So this season of Yellowstone,
I kind of can't believe it. Three episodes now, we're
three episodes into season five of Yellowstone. Just when I
keep thinking we've sort of hit the ceiling, just when
I keep thinking it can't get any bigger, the story
(06:23):
keeps getting bigger, the scale and scope of this thing
keeps expanding. Yeah, The very first thing that happens in
Yellowstone season five, episode one is John Dutton wins the
race to be the governor. All of a sudden, the
scope of the show expands from being one cattle ranch
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to an entire state. John Dutton is responsible for the
entire state. When you read that script, tell me what
was your first response to that.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
My first thought was, Okay, great, how exciting Because the
world already, even though it existed, like you said, on
this one ranch, the world already felt so big. So
the promise of it sort of expanding infinitely now at
this point was exciting. It was also incredibly daunting, and
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because you weren't there, Jeff, and everything was breezy. Because
you weren't there, you didn't get to experience that. Like,
the largeness of the world that we're entering into also
made the largeness of.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
The scenes really really.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A sort of momentous task to take on from a
production and directing standpoint. I mean, there were so there
were these scenes where we had every single person basically
in the cast and the entire state of Montana.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's amazing, and you see that it's funny how I'm
always looking for the ways in which the narrative of
the show lines up with the narrative of the process
of making it. Totally this is It's one of these
situations where for four seasons we've had our own private
little paradise out on the Dutton Ranch, and then in
(08:08):
season five, episode one, just like you're describing, all of
a sudden, the rest of the state comes to the
Dutton Ranch. There's hundreds of background Yeah, and the cowboys
the bunk house, you know, as they come out of
the bunk house in their dress shirts and look at
the scene unfolding. It must be a little bit like
that in real life, huh.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
It felt like that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And it also like there were all these parallel moments, like,
for example, like one of the points in the scene
is like, you know, the cowboys are you know, we're
cowboy jousting in the arena, and like we're the ones
having a blast.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
They're not. And let me tell you, on the day
when we were shooting, we were the ones having a party.
I mean, like even in between takes, we're still going
after each other. I had rope burns so bad. I learned.
I learned never to celebrate by grabbing me under your rope.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I'd rope so bad that I had to sleep with
my hand elevated by like a window that was bringing
an eighteen degree air for about four nights.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
But it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Jeff, Yeah, will you describe because I wasn't there, I
missed it, and I'm to be honest, I'm pissed that
I missed it. Will you please describe cowboy jousting for us?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, which when I read it, I went, what's this?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And then somebody showed me.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's basically it's almost like a what's the thing where
you're it's what's the thing where you run on the
horse with the whole jousting?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's basically jousting on foot with a rope, so you're
running towards each other, and it is really a timing
thing because if you throw yours too early you could
miss and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You're aiming for the other person's feet. You got.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You both kind of run full steam ahead, you don't
chicken out, and then you pull up and one of you.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It's a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah. If it goes well, somebody is doing a face.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Plant, or both people are or a tailblone, a tailbone
is getting broken. I saw Jay Rod, who our amazing
stunt coordinator. I saw him lean over to the guy
who I was going to be jousting with, bless his heart,
who's about six or five. I think I called him
Paul Bunyon on one take and he and he must
(10:23):
have whispered, like, do me a favor. Just fall really
hard for her every time, because because I really like her,
and she tries hard, so you know.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh, that's amazing. I bet you really got him. And
this is another funny thing about it. A couple of
times I was gonna say, I bet you really knocked
him the fuck over, to be honest, because you and I,
you and I are funny in this way, Jen, and
we kind of have parallel journeys in this way. You know,
when we started working on Yellowstone, this has been a
(10:52):
deep dive into a world that wasn't our world. You know,
neither of us necessarily come from a you know, we
have and we each have our own histories, our own
backgrounds with this stuff, but neither of us come directly
from the cowboy world, the ranching world. And we've had
this journey over the course of the last five years
(11:14):
immersing ourselves in this and I think you and I
both have really and our whole cast and our whole crew,
all of us, my gosh, we have tremendous respect for
this world. We have tremendous admiration for folks who grew
up in this life, this culture, this history, and so
much of our jobs over the last five years has
been learning stuff that we never otherwise would have had
(11:37):
any exposure to and embracing it and you know, doing
our best to do this life proud. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think what we both really had in common is
that we were probably the least I mean, you obviously
came in season one, I came in season three, but
it felt like we both maybe were the least experienced
of the group going in. And also you and I
are we're both kind of nerds, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Like we really hone in on a thing, you know,
I'm sure you have.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I imagine like we both could have some books on
like the physics of roping laying around, you know, and
and and also yeah, the the thing that Taylor really
does so well when he writes is to sort of
honor the world that he is capturing, and then he
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also instills that so much in us. I worry about
writing almost more than I worry about acting. And that
clip that we heard at the top, you know, as
an actor, normally you're just criticizing your performance, but now
you're just like, really.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
That's how, that's how I rode that horse that day.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Like, looking back on it years later, I'm like, it's
it's it's it's humiliating.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
There's a lot of you know, you and I self critical,
lifelong good students, obsessed with doing a good job and
impressing the teacher. This is a funny, and you expressed
this idea that I think really resonates through all of
Yellowstone is Yellowstone the show itself is about these worlds colliding,
you know, the West and the mini forces sort of
(13:21):
colliding with it in the modern day, right in the
year at twenty twenty two, all the sort of forces
from outside the West sort of smashing into it, and
this kind of almost biblical struggle between history and progress,
and so much of the experience of making the show
represents this kind of collision between those of us with
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acting backgrounds, those of us with filmmaking backgrounds, and those
of us with ranching backgrounds, with cowboy backgrounds, with Texas backgrounds,
Montana backgrounds, and Taylor Sheridan is somebody who embodies both
of those things fully at the same time. He is
what reconciles those two worlds. He's a cowboy and he's
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a writer, and he's a filmmaker, and he's a rancher
and he's a horse trainer and he's an actor. He
in himself, in his body, reconciles that contradiction. And so
I think the rest of us, those of us from
the ranching world and those of us from the filmmaking, acting, television,
film world, we are all sort of aspiring to contain
(14:28):
within us the contradiction that Taylor does absolutely, so that
conversation is an ongoing one. I can't wait to dive
into these first three episodes in depth, but first let's
just do an ad break really quick. So that contradiction,
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those the contradiction these worlds colliding, is represented so perfectly
in the struggle that faces John Dutton from the very
beginning of season five. He all of a sudden has
these new responsibilities, He's got these new sort of duties
that are not familiar to him. He's out of his
element and how the question from the beginning of season
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five feels like, how can he reconcile his background, his history,
his tradition with his new responsibilities and all of this
sort of forces arrayed against him, which is a fascinating question.
It really feels like Season five, episode one is almost
like everything that came before, This is almost a prequel,
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and the show it really begins on a new level,
at a new scale in season five. Absolutely, And one
thing I really think is fascinating about this is also
the introduction of all of these new characters. You know,
starting in season five, we are introduced to new characters.
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And then also there's the amazing through as John Dutton
pushes forward into the future. As we see him sort
of accelerating towards the future, we're also pulled back into
the past with these amazing sort of fully fleshed out
flashbacks to this earlier timeline, you know, to a timeline
(16:19):
that we've briefly explored in the past that we're now
digging deeper into into the history of some of our
favorite relationships on Yellowstone, you know, these formative relationships Rip
and Beth a couple that we've been rooting for for
five years.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
The whole RiPP and Beth storylines and the way they
serve it in the flashbacks in episode one is it's
one of my favorite things in the show. I think
they did an unbelievable job in terms of the casting
of Kai and Kyle and the way there's almost this
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there's a visual similarity between the two of them. So
there's this real parallel between the Rowdy and Rip character.
We sort of Rowdy's the character. You know, Rowdy's the
tough one at the time. I mean, you know, by
the time we show up, nobody's tougher than Rip, you know.
And you know in those flashbacks we see that Rip
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is more meek. And I just love that those boys,
while looking very different, did share some physical commonalities to
draw that parallel, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it's such a cool thing. It's like, you know,
Rip has such a mythic quality to him, the Rip
that we know he's gotten more complicated. Of course, over
the course of five seasons, we've started to see his humanity,
especially as it relates to Beth and to Carter, but
to see sort of where Rip began. Sort of the
kind of origin story of this character that we admire
(17:50):
so much is an incredible thing. And you're totally right
at the beginning there, he's he's not so different than Carter,
He's not so different than Jeter. When we're first introduced
to him. You know, he's this kid who's had an
incredibly difficult life. He's faced many challenges and he's just
trying to survive. The Casting of these young actors who've
also been on the show, I think since season one.
(18:12):
I think in season one we were first introduced to
Kyle red Silverstein's young Rip and to Kylie Rodgers young Beth.
To talk about stepping into some big shoes. Kylie Rodgers
is absolutely incredible. I have amazed such she's got an
impossible job. That's the kind of job that I would
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be terrified of to try to step into Kelly Riley's shoes,
and she does it with such tremendous presence. To be
a young actor and to be able to live up
to Kelly Riley's performance of Beth, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, She's she's incredible.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's that is a job that is truly that would
be truly, truly daunting, but she does it so beautifully
and she doesn't. What I love is that she trusts
that she has enough in common with her to not
hide any of herself. Like it doesn't feel like she's
putting on a performance, you know. It feels like that
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it is something that is really coming out of her,
which I love.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So it is such a cool thing to see these actors,
these young actors, fully embodying these characters that we love
so much and living up to. To be honest, I
would be so intimidated to step into Coolhauser's shoes or
Kelly Riley's shoes. So I have tremendous respect for these
young actors.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, and they both, I mean, they both basically exhibit
a maturity that far seeds their age and is a maturity.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That exceeds ours.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Jeff, Yeah, we hope in another ten years that we
will be able to have the grace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah. Let's just say if they were recording this podcast,
they would be speaking much more eloquently about every sort
of element of this dramaturgy. I also want to give
a big shout out to Kay Caster, Yeah, who plays Rowdy,
who we've been talking about, Because anytime you're coming into
the fifth season of a show like this. It's a
show that's like a behemoth. It's an intimidating thing. And
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these are young actors who carry themselves with such ease,
with such sort of quiet confidence. I admire it tremendously.
So great job to them. I'm learning from them from
watching their performances.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And I got to meet Kai at Cowboy Camp this year,
and you know, we you know, I figured he was
playing rowdy and I just fell in love with him.
He was, you know, because Cowboy Camp is such a
bonding experience. You're thrown into safe situations that are terrifying
and then you eat food together and bond over it.
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And he was really one of the gems. He was
just such a in that whole process. And then I
never saw him again because he exists in a different time.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh it's so funny. Yeah, there's these parallel worlds. Yeah,
but that it also what's fun about it is there
is a young teeter somewhere somewhere in Arkansas while that
is happening.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You that's true, I mean, have you?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, I feel like we're all actively t trying
to have Kolhauser's daughter play young teeter, like at least
in some sort of even external to the show, some
kind of like role play thing.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Who anyway, for another.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Episode, we should just have her on because she's cool
and I love that kid.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
She became a real friend, a real friend this summer.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's amazing. I feel like I was I disappeared and
I was replaced in aggregate with a bunch of a
bunch of much better, younger, more interesting, cooler, more competent
versions of me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It's a little strange to have like a group of
friends who are children, Like thin became a real bud,
and like it's very hard to explain to people, like, no,
we're friends, Like it's there, We're I'm hanging out with
my friend.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
They're just twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, we got to talk about that for a second,
because because in episode five oh one, we're introduced to
some familiar faces, some young versions of familiar faces, and
then we're introduced to a face that is should be
familiar but is barely recognizable. Yeah, which is Carter. Carter
has uh, Carter's grown a little.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, Carter played by the same actor. But at first
it feels like one of those very bizarre recasts where
they're like they couldn't find someone who looked a little
bit more like.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
The other actor.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's like a House of the Dragon time jump. It's
like all all of a sudden, yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, he he.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know, when I first saw him, I think it
was a day that we were just riding. You know,
on days when we're not shooting and they're not using
the ranch, a bunch of us will go ride and
just work on stuff. And gosh, he walked right by
me and I had no idea who he was. And
it wasn't until he opened his mouth and I like
looked in his eyeballs and I was like, oh, my goodness,
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it is Finn, not so little anymore. It's it's it,
I mean, And I have to say, like he we
got to hang out. We got to hang out a
lot this year, and that that guy is so special.
I actually have a Zelda game because I butt a
Nintendo Switch and he lent me his Zelda video game.
I think he wanted it back before we ended, but
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I hadn't beat the game in time, so I still
have it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you really interrogate that for a second, Jen, that
means that you've you've stolen candy from a child.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I have stolen property from a young person. That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Sorry, Catherine, You're saying it with like a friendly voice,
but it sounds to me like you're a bully.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Till you do everything in this business. What are you
talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right, Yeah, you bully with a friendly voice. So, so
it is a fascinating thing.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
As as season five propels us perhaps too fast, into
the future, a future that John Dutton is wary of,
a future he's doing everything in his power to resist,
we are also propelled backwards into the past. So it
really is a kind of fascinating duality. We're seeing what
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the Duttons are fighting so hard to protect, sort of
as we're watching them, you know, I hate to say it,
losing the battle to protect it. As we see as
the Dutton's forces are spread ever more thin and their
enemies are spread ever more thickly, we're also watching the
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very legacy that they're trying to protect. I also just
want to give a shout out. Listen you guys listening
to this, God bless you. You're going to learn something
about me and Jen which is that actor's favorite thing
to talk about is other actors. You know not to
speak for Jen god blet. You know, Jen, you got
your own prerogative. My thing that I love most in
(25:06):
the world is actors and acting, so over and over again,
you're gonna hear me gush about, you know, some of
my favorite actors in the world, which is our cast
mates on Yellowstone And if you get sick of it,
I'm sorry. I'm not very good at hosting a podcast.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You're fantastic at posting at hosting a podcast. And I
was actually in agreement with you that whole time, but
my connection on this podcast dropped out. So while I
was actually saying yes, Jeff, yes, I agree, I love
talking about fellow actors, it just sounded like I was
a jerk and I was just.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, damn. It was like, yeah, you guys can't see
this at home. But Jen was shaking her head that
whole time. She has nothing but contempt for the other
actors on the show.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Can I like, I actually just like, while we're talking
about actors on the show, there were people who got
some shout out. Did you see this shout out that
Jake Reim got from his performance in episode one?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No who shouted him out?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Vulture?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yes, it was like one of the highlights. It was
like Jake Ream's expression of genuine Bill wilderment at the
sudden drive by insults made me laugh, What the hell
are you all on my ass for? I mean, it
was one of like seven acting moments really pulled out.
And for those of you who don't know, Jake Ream
is not somebody who enters into the show as somebody
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with an acting background.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
He is somebody who enters into the show as somebody
who is a.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Cutting horse trainer and a wrangler background. And he is
one of the best improvisers. And I think he's actually
one of the most truthful actors I've ever worked with
in my life.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He is so funny. Yeah, it is really Jake Reim
has been acting for about as long as we've been
riding horses, which is, you know, five seasons now, and
he is he has gotten much better at acting, much
faster than we've gotten better at riding. That's not really fair,
that is correct. When we were never no, no, you go,
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you go, you go.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
When we were when we were shooting the this is
just like behind. This is when we are shooting the governor.
When we were shooting the governor, ball scene, and we
were in the very far background and we're just dancing
in the background.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was no problem. I saw Jake.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Ream talking and I thought he was talking to the
woman he was dancing with. But then I saw that
the woman he was dancing with wasn't talking back at all.
And then I looked and I see that he's got
his head turned down, he's got his phone in his pocket,
and he's in the middle of selling a horse in
the deep background on the scene.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Jake, that's so funny. Yeah, it's really incredible. You can
take the horse trainer out of the barn, but you
can't take the barn out of the horse trainer, or
a real cowboy would come up with a better saying
than that. It really is. It is a pretty amazing
because it's also like also Ethan Lee. I mean, like,
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so there's lots of really funny bunk house sort of
sequences in the first few episodes of season five that
have aired so far. Ethan Lee is also getting his
jokes in. Now, it's pretty amazing, I really Ethan Lee
is also a remarkable actor, and Ethan is an actor
and a stunt performer in addition to being an incredible writer.
So it is really fun to get to see him
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do more, to get to see all these characters that
have been cooking for five seasons, been simmering like a
chili and a crock pot, are now so rich and
full of flavor, which is a really amazing thing to see.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know, we have this, we talk about those parallels
that are you know, on screen and off screen. The
thing that's crazy is that nobody knew that Ethan was
funny in real life until Taylor started writing him jokes.
And now suddenly like he's become incredibly funny off camera.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Like we always knew he.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Was lovely, soulful, wonderful, talented, amazing smart, we didn't know
he was that guy's got zingers.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
They're coming out left on right now.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He's got zingers. By season five, the zingers are flying
all over the place and it is It's very funny.
In episode one there when Jake is catching more than
his fair share of the zingers, I feel bad abandoning
him because when Jimmy was there, there was more than
one person to make fun of. Now that Jimmy's out
of the way, Jake is catching more than his fair
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share of those shots and that collateral damage. So so
we've talked a bunch about John Dutton's new role as
the Governor. We've talked about what the bunk House is
up to. Let's take a break really quick, and when
we get back we'll catch up on everything else. So
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we've talked about John Dutton's new role as the Governor,
the new forces and sort of challenges facing him. We've
talked about what the bunk House is up to. Another
crucial although less obviously less fun to talk about. Yeah,
plot point of episode one is the tragic loss of
Casey and Monica's child.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
That was heartbreaking, it really was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, it's it's one of these Tailor's brilliant. He sets
you up on these highs. He gives you a party,
he gives you what you want to see. You want
to see, you know, Rippin' Beth being romantic, you want
to see, you know, these victories, the cowboys having a
good time. And then right when you're feeling safe and secure,
he pulls the rug out from under you and drops
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you on your drops you on your ass. And the
end of episode one really is that it's a brutal
expertly acted, expertly shot, expertly sort of executed sequence that
reminds us, you know, reminds us that the West is
these highs, this sort of beautiful, joyful, you know, community,
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and it's also brutally difficult and challenging and punishing it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But it also sort of like, you know, so much
of the episode, like you said, is about this, you know,
HD becoming governor and these sort of bigger things and
progress versus this and all of these sort of ideals
and you know, and esoteric ideas. But this is something
that sort of makes all of that, in a strange way,
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not matter, because that's something that we can all relate
to when there's some sort of devastating loss like that
that is close to home, that in particular involves a child,
Like for a moment, all that other stuff goes away.
I mean, I know for me watching the episode, I mean,
in that moment, it's like that's the only thing that exists,
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and it certainly puts a lot in perspective, and it
just frames that whole episode really well.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You're so right, it's fascinating. You know, these contradictions we've
been talking about getting pulled in multiple directions at once
as the scale of the show gets bigger, as that
it gets more complicated, as more and more sort of
the conflicts get bigger, they're more legal, they're sort of
harder to resolve. This sequence and this loss really brings
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us back to the kind of most intimate, most human,
most sort of instinctually painful on an animal level loss
that you can imagine.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And yeah, and Taylor also like writes in you know
some of those other simple intimate moments, you know, towards
the end with with JD and Carter, for example, that
moment where he tells them basically to stop growing up,
that if you grow a beard, you're fired, you know,
which is another thing that we is so simple that
we all relate to in terms of just the greatest
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devil of them all sometimes, which is time, this this
train that you can't stop. So he just grounds the
end of that episode and just really basic, devastating or
not so devastating human experiences. I feel like that's one
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of his superpowers.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You're totally right, And that's an amazing sort of parallel
to draw. It really feels like John Dutton is sort
of drawing a line in the sand and then you know,
waves of time are just washing it away over and
over again. There's nothing he can do to stop that tide.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
You know, what do you think, Jeff, what do you
what do you think about that last moment when Tate
in the hall says to j D I had a
brother for an hour anyway, And then he says, they
named him John.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Oh, it's brutal. It's it's you know, it's John Dutton.
In many ways, many many episodes throughout Yellowstone or John
Dutton sort of facing his own mortality, facing the mortality
of his legacy. So much of what he does is
to protect his family, to protect generations to come. He's
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doing everything he can to try to control the future.
And this is just a little reminder that no matter
what you do, no matter how hard you fight, you
can't control everything. And you can't. There's you know, time,
Time comes for all of us.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, it also, I mean, I actually it's so funny
in some ways. I don't know, because I haven't revisited
some of these episodes because we shot them so long ago.
But it also feels almost like a foreshadowing or a
harbinger of you know, as John's.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Focus gets out and elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
There's a real threat to what he might lose back
home while he's you know, there's a real threat to
losing you know, almost everything, it feels like. And I
just want to say our producer, who's been incredibly quiet
during this recording, Scott, Who's Who's a pretty tough guy
(35:08):
at this point. In the little beat sheet that he
hands Jeff and I, he actually has a parenthetical.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
He couldn't help himself.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
He had a write down, but in that hospital moment,
in parentheses, he wrote, I cried. So it was like
amidst all of these very clean notes, like he was
so overwhelmed with feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
He's actually he's also crying right now, right now, you
guys can't see it because it's not on video, but
he's just tears are streaming down his face. Wow, Scott,
this is actually the fourth or fifth time he's cried
just during this recording set.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Special lot of tissue.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it's a scented one too. Looks like it's that
with the aloe, so your nose doesn't get that's nice.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He's not going to get irritated. Yeah, you're so right
jin that like the one of the themes of this
season that we'll keep talking about as we now move
forward into to episode two is that John Dutton has
to go further and further away from home to protect
his home. He's getting pulled away from the very thing
that he's trying to protect, and it puts everybody in danger.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, and you know, I don't want to give too
much weight because I know we're only in you know,
the first three episodes, but you know, that feeling of
missing him, Missing Kevin was.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Also a thing that I felt this year.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Like it was it was something that my character sort
of felt, and then it was something that I felt
as an actor on set. It was like, you know,
because of course when you're shooting Yellowstone, people are like,
how's Kevin, you know, and the answer is always amazing,
And this year it was like, I haven't seen him,
you know, and it was it was this.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Thing of really sort of of missing the main Papa Bear.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, his presence. Kevin is a leader on set in
the same way that John Dutton is the leader of
that ranch. And you were also saying earlier that you
missed me. Starting to wonder kind of like, was that
was any of that real?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Was any of my missing you real.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, you're saying it about.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Jeff. I'll be fully honest with you. It was much
easier without you. But I did no, I I did
miss you. No, I missed you horribly. I miss you.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I miss you even now, Jeff, I can see you.
You're a small You look like a playing card. Frankly,
for some reason, you look, where's the Yellowstone playing cards?
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I just came up. Do we have a one on
one studios? Are you hearing me? Do we have a
yellow playing card?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's funny, you know. Season five, episode one, an episode
in which Jimmy Herdstrom does not appear one time, is
the most watched episode of television across all across all
television this year. Which while I listen, I want to
root for the team. I want to say, you know,
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go Cubs, even when I'm not playing, even when I'm
not on the field.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Are the ship that got us here? You are?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You are?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
You are the ship that got us here?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Theseus? Does it even? Is it even still the same
ship now that the sales are gone? Listen, listen, listen
Yellowstone Season five, episode two. A lot of stuff is happening.
There's a lot of and once again part of one
of the exciting things about this season particularly is these
new threats, these new challenges, these new characters. So in
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Yellowstone season five, episode two, we are introduced to Sarah Attwood. Yes,
will you talk a little bit about Dawn, about the experience,
about your experience of this character, this character who kind
of leaped off the page.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Oh my goodness, you know when I read When I
read that character, it definitely felt like, okay, it was
just the promise of scenes between her, between Sarah and Beth,
it was like we just it was just this incredible
like you could you just could only imagine what was
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gonna come.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
That was one of the characters that excited me the most.
Don Is I actually met don for the first.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Time four days ago, maybe it was five days ago
at the premiere, which I think we're going to get
to in a little bit to talk about. But she's
so amazing. I've been you know, I'm a fan of
hers from eighteen eighty three.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
I love her other works.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
She's just a dynamite actress and a really cool person.
And I was really excited. I'm really excited to continue
to watch that character on screen.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's so cool, it's like, you know, we were talking
earlier about Kylie Rodgers having the challenge of stepping into
Kelly riley shoes Young Beth. How about Dawn having to
step up to go toe to toe. It's like signing
up to fight Muhammad Ali. You know, it's like signing
up to fight Floyd Mayweather. You're signing up to go
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into the ring with the toughest, meanest fighter on the show.
And it's an incredible thing. And she rises to that challenge.
It's a very exciting, very exciting conflict there.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So Also in this episode, I just want to flag
this because you know, we're introducing new enemies and we're
introducing new allies, which I think is a really fun
element of this season. So an actor that I'm a
big fan of joins the show, which is really exciting
to me. And that's Lily Kay playing Clara, who's John
(40:50):
Dunton's new assistant.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, Lily's Lily is amazing.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
And for people who follow the cutting world at all,
the name Clara Brewer is going to sound a bit
familiar because there is one of the best female cutting
horse trainers.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
In the world is Cara Brewer.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
And I think that that name somehow got into Taylor's
brain and made it out onto the page.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
And Lily Kay is one.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Of the coolest people I've ever met in my life.
She would robot dance with us all day long, Jeff,
like it was just you and I awkwardly robot dancing,
but like Lily Kay, She's gonna robot dance with us.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
She's amazing. I'm really excited. I hope we can get
her as a guest in a later episode of the show,
because I'd love to hear about her background. I've been
a fan of her work for a long time. She's
amazing and she does an incredible job again stepping into
stepping basically into the ring with Kevin Costner, with Kelly Riley,
with you know, Wes Bentley, surrounded by these giants, these
these geniuses, and really holding her own. So I'm so
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excited to get to know her character and I'd love
an opportunity to talk to her some more and get
to do you hear about her her process of working
on the show.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Also just fun fact for the audience. Until we get her, Lily,
you have no option but to come on the show.
When you listen to this episode of money. We're manifesting,
We're manifest This is positive affirmation. Lily is actually has
been riding horses her whole life and is a phenomenal writer,
and so the audience should look forward to that as well.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, that's incredible. She's playing She's playing the governor's assistant.
Only on Yellowstone is the young actor who's brought in
to play the governor's assistant also an expert rider who
can hold her own. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
I also have this feeling that Lily is good at
everything and somehow is not annoying at all.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Usually the two do not go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, it's funny because I'm good at nothing and very annoying.
I'm sort of on the other side of that.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Spaced you out self deprecated me. You left me no
further insult to apply to myself.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I went nuclear right at the beginning, than you.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Because I couldn't come up with one.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Okay, So, Jeff, I have a question for you, even
though unfortunately, as we know, you were not in this
episode or the scene. I was curious what your thoughts
were about the scene. Were Colby and Ryan go out
and hunt the wolves and end up in a pickle
far greater than they expected.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, the bunk house. You know, usually these guys, they're
good soldiers. They do what they're told. Usually, you know,
they've got a few layers of excuses here, they're just
following orders. This time they really screw the pooch. So obviously,
you know, they find signs that the herd is being
haunted by wolves. They find evidence of this, Ripsen's Colby
(43:49):
and Ryan Ian Bowen and Denim Richards to go handle
it in the dead and night. They're using thermal scopes
to try and sort of quietly eliminate the issue. But
because they're using thermal scopes, they don't see that the
wolves that they're hunting are wearing these tracking collars, which
means they're wolves from Yellowstone National Park, which means they
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are the most protected, sort of most sacred wolves, you know, imaginable.
So they're basically really really stepping in it and really
causing huge ramifications, potentially huge ramifications for the ranch by
killing these wolves. I think it's described in the episode.
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These wolves have Facebook pages. They're sort of they are, right,
they are like public figures, they're influencers, right.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
And by virgue of the fact that they're tracking callers,
They're going to be able to see where those wolves
went and where they maybe started walking at a slightly
stranger pattern.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Exactly. So, we've taken a lot of people to the
train station who didn't have the benefit of tracking callers.
If you've got a GPS locator attached to you, you
can't just you can't just get tossed, you know, in
a ravine somewhere in the you know, the greater the
greater Tri State area. So say really stepped in it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
In many ways, the wolves are a greater threat than
any train station victims so far.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
That's exactly right. Yeah, Yeah, there wasn't a GPS tracking
caller on the Beck brothers.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
You know, they didn't, right. They also they didn't take them.
They didn't take the wolves to the train station, right,
they took them. They took them to the river.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
So, so in an effort to like cover up their cribs, basically,
they they toss these GPS callers into the river, hoping
that they'll simply wash downstream, hoping that they'll find their
way back into the park and off of the ranch. Yes, However,
is it bad that all I'm.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Hearing is the song take Me to the River.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
That's right, that's a GPS collar singing that song.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, it's all.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
No in all seriousness, And it's a really confusing issue
that no episode is long enough to get into the
wolf issue in Montana, and there are many different feelings
about how to deal with it and many different sides,
and it's it's complicated and ongoing. That is that is
something that Taylor wrote into the show, and that is
something that is very real and current for the people
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in Montana right now.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, And it's been you know, wolves as a through
line since Yellowstone season one. Like wolves and the question
of these wolves what they represent, both literally, metaphorically and logistically,
that's been a part of Yellowstone from the very beginning.
And it does feel like in season five here, as
the Duttons are increasingly distracted, you know, Rip describes it
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as a you know, nero fiddling while Rome burns, you know,
as are increasingly distracted, mistakes like this are happening at
the worst possible juncture. You know, the forces are spread
more thin than ever before, and little mistakes like this
start creeping in through the cracks. You know, this is
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the kind of mistake that case you know, Casey has
a very specific sort of sacred relationship to these wolves, right.
You know, John Dutton understands John Dutton would never make
this mistake. Rip might not ever make this mistake. But
these decisions are having to sort of trickle down further
and further as the forces are spread more and more thin,
until mistakes like this can start to sort of creep through. Yeah,
(47:37):
and it'll be interesting to see. This is something that
I think we're going to be tracking like a little
GPS collar for the rest of the season, you know,
to see how this how this plays out.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
It definitely feels like the thing that's going to come
back and bite you in the butt. It just feels
like at every turn, this is the thing that's going
to come back. And so it has I mean, I
I find that to be a brilliant writing device.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
And it does come back to bite them in the
ass very quickly, because in episode three, all of a sudden,
wildlife agents are showing up looking for these wolves, right,
and all of a sudden, Yeah, they're they're engaged in
this complicated, elaborate cover up to try to basically protect
themselves from the legal ramifications of having shot these wolves,
you know, and this is a you know, it's a
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it's a big, big crisis. It's a little mistake that
can turn into a big crisis for the ranch.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Which isn't even bigger crisis now because of course John is.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
Governor. So it's one thing if just.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
A very massive landowner has it, but now he is,
he is in public office.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's a huge scandal for a governor. Basically, this could
cost them everything. It's a little mistake that could cost
them everything. I'm trying to think what the saying is
for want of a horseshoe, for want of a horseshoe nail.
You know, Rome burned. It's all about Rome.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
I'm very impressed with your idioms in general.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
But I get like half of them. I'm always combining them.
You know, two birds in the bush is worth an
apple a day. Listen. So, also in episodes two and three,
in our flashback sequences, we're getting more sort of we're
revealing more and more of the history, the recent history
of the Dutton rancher. We're also seeing a sort of
recent struggle that the Dutton's had with pesticides. We're seeing
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the return of the King Josh Lucas as young John Dutton,
and it's so fun. I love this moment in the
Dutton history because Josh Lucas John Dutton is transformed after
having lost his wife. When we saw Josh Lucas in
season one, it was he had a sort of lightness
to him, a kind of joy and ease to him.
(49:50):
As we's reintroduced here, we're seeing that the weight of
the loss of his wife, the weight of the responsibility
of managing this family and the ranch without his anchor,
without his wife to help him keep his family together,
is weighing on him heavily. I really am so impressed
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and kind of inspired and like just just kind of
awestruck by the weight that Josh Lucas is bringing to
John Dutton in this season. You really it's connecting the
dots between the young John Dutton we saw in season
one of Yellowstone and and John Dutton as played by
Kevin Costner in season five of Yellowstone. It's a really
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cool performance.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, Josh is like an incredibly thoughtful, surgical actor, and
none of those choices are happen. Those are all very
conscious choices. None of that is fluke on his part.
He's so deeply thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
It's such an exciting, such an exciting performance. It really,
I mean, all those actors in that timeline. That's one
of my favorite things about this season is getting to
sort of explore that recent history, these characters that we
know so well, getting to see the forces that made
them the way they are now. Also in episode three, uh,
Sarah Atwood finally sort of uh springs her trap on Jamie.
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So market equities and the mini forces uh target ranch.
I know they've identified Jamie as a kind of potential
vulnerability for the Dutton ranch, for the Dutton you know,
Phalanx to keep sticking with this Roman imagery. Oh boy,
if you're going you know, if you're like a Rome
(51:33):
scholar listening to this, and I'm biffinite left and right.
I never claimed to be an expert on Rome. I'm
not actually an expert on anything. I'm just a moron.
So I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what I said about Rome. Listen, listen, listen.
The point is that Jamie has been identified as the
kind of weak link here, and Sarah Atwood is springing
(51:53):
her trap. She's she's sort of setting into motion this
manipulation of Jamie, which is very very exciting because Wes
Bentley like no, but no character on the show has
been through quite what Wes Bentley's Jamie has been through.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
No, No, And what makes it hard is that Wes
Bentley is truly one of the nicest people I have
ever met, and also just funny as all get out,
and those two things we don't really get to see
much of. You know, Jamie is not a laugh riot.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
In season episode five oh one, he really gets me
with that. And when he goes we're all going to jail,
that is like, no, it's getting paid to LLC in Utah,
and Jamie's like, we're all going to jail. It's very good.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
And then another very exciting development in a very exciting
sort of loose end here in season five, episode three,
basically Beth's feeling good. She's made a masterful power play
to protect the rand from market equities. She says, hey,
fuck it, take me to the bar. Let's go to
the bar, and everybody loads up and rides out and
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goes to the bar. Will you talk about that a
little bit because I can't wait to hear what that
was like behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Yeah, I can't talk about it without talking about the
moment before in the bunk.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
House where she throws out the suggestion of.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Going to the bar, and there was this amazing moment
on set where you know, Rip is definitely sort of
the boss that we report to, but now we have
the boss boss's daughter telling us what to do, and
it's this incredible conflict of interest where we're like, do
we listen to Rip? Do we listen to her? We
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were all hoping that we got to go along with her,
and we did. Stepping into that bar that night was
really was really amazing because they did such a great
job of making sure everybody looked and felt a bit
like phony cow boys basically like me. And now I
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got to be on the other side of that sort
of feeling some not disdain, but just you know, I
felt like they're a bunch of phony, blownies. And yeah,
it was another one of those scenes where you've got
a bunch of we've you know, we've got so much
cast in that scene. Of course, there's an amazing fight
(54:26):
that breaks out. Jay Rod choreographed that that was incredibly fun.
We definitely we definitely had some improvised moments in that
fight scene. There was definitely a few takes. It's you
know where it was like, okay, guys improvise, which is
always slightly terrifying but leads to some fight gems. But no,
(54:46):
Jay rod is actually just to not make light of that.
Jay Rohdd is such an incredible stunt coordinator. He's one
of the most technical people I know. And he not
only thinks like a stunt coordinator, he thinks like a writer,
he thinks like a direct or, he thinks like an actor.
He's he's sort of brilliant. That scene was a blast.
Dancing with Kelly Riley was a blast. And then of
(55:08):
course we have the great moment where the character Hayley,
who is you know, played perfectly by Ashley Platts. Ashley
Peth is lovely in real life and just a nightmare
of a character in that first scene and comes up
to her and I got the best seat in the
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house because I sort of got to be almost like
a parrot on Kelly's shoulder when she brought that bottle
down on her head. And that actress, I mean it
was breakaway or I have no idea what it was
made out of, but she she took whatever looked like
a real bottle and she took it, took it on
the head and she sold that real well.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
So Beth, you know, can't help herself, starts this huge fight.
It devolves into a massive scrum. The cops show up,
break this thing up. And there's this important sort of
idea that's introduced here, which is that there's a there's
a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
So, for the first four seasons, Sheriff Haskell was an
ally to the Dutton's, a sort of friend to John Dutton,
a longtime sort of supporter of the Duttons and their mission.
Now we've got Sheriff Ramsey, who's been played by Rob
Kirkland since season two. He's the new sheriff and it's
(56:25):
a it's a whole new ballgame. Now he's not quite
so friendly.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
Yeah, it feels like, you know, we're Taylor's ending on
this note again of everything is sort of a new
ballgame at every turn, that that the things that were
stacked in the Dutton's favor are no longer and it's
just another threat. And as as the Dutton world expands,
(56:52):
the threats around them get taller, uh and more potent.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, there's more and more sort of holes in the armor,
which is a really I gotta say, Beth, not a
great time to go to jail at a time when
you know, John's resources are spread so thin, when they've
got so few allies. Beth did not pick a great
time to get thrown into jail for starting a bar fight.
Speaker 5 (57:16):
There was no world where that girl wasn't getting hit
in the face.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
If it wasn't, there was just no world where it
wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, but let Teeter do it, you know what I mean,
Let someone who's you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
When we were shooting that, I had that the thought
is Teeter, like, you know, like I was ready to
take this on, Like I was like, I'm gonna you know,
and then when she clocked her in the head. I
mean there was one take I didn't even know it
came out of my mouth. She hit her, She hit
her so hard I went Jesus.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (57:53):
It was she, she had it. I mean, Beth is
the toughest female character of all time.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
She really is the wrong person to pick a fight with.
And we're going to, you know, we'll see the consequences
of BET's actions, of everybody's sort of actions moving forward,
and we could talk about this forever. This is three
of my favorite episodes of Yellowstone ever, episodes one, two,
and three here. And I also I can't wait to
talk to some of these actors. I can't wait to
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dig even deeper moving forward as the stories. As these
stories progress, all these exciting new plot lines sort of
thunder forward, I can't wait to dig deeper and deeper
into them.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
I just want to thank you very much for allowing
me to join you as a host. Alongside you, I
appreciate your guidance, I enjoy your company, and I adore
our friendship, and I look forward to digging into the episodes,
interviewing actors and hopefully getting to talk with some people
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who live the life that we portray on screen and
sort of get into the world that is the inspiration
for Yellowstone, and hopefully, you know, eat some good food
and get some good wine along the way.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Hell yeah, you said it way better than I ever
could have. Thank you for joining us on the Official
Yellowstone Podcast. We'll be back very soon to dig deeper.
Speaker 4 (59:27):
By now, listen to the Official Yellowstone Podcast every Sunday
on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts,
Hey, guys, Jefferson White Here, I play Jimmy Hurts from
on the Paramount Network original series Yellowstone. Yellowstone is back.
It's bigger and better than ever. Season five of Yellowstone
is the biggest season yet and things are no different
here on the Official Yellowstone Podcast. And so I've got
a really, really exciting announcement for you coming up right
(00:33):
after this break. This season of the Official Yellowstone Podcast
is going to be bigger than ever, better than ever.
And my first big piece of news is we are joined. Well,
I'll let her introduce herself.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What's your name? Ti?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Here?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Is that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Tight Hart? Since she said your name Peter Loolock, motherfucker?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Name is Peter, you skunk hard motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We are joined by the incredible, the one of a
kind Jennifer Land and Jen. Thank you so much for
being here.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Well, my guest, Jeff, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's also it seems a bit ironic that the one
person on the show that you can't understand it all
is now joining you for.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
An entirely auditory experience of the show. So in case.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Anybody doesn't know that, this is how I speak in
real life.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Hello, Yeah, Jen, Oh my god, that's such a good point.
It's so funny. Folks know you as Teeter, they know
you with Teeter's incredible, incomprehensible accent. What an amazing thing.
Some folks are gonna be hearing your real voice for
the first time here.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, which which I think very very well could be
the case, because as I moved through the world and
people have approached me of the one of the first
things they say is they were quite nervous as to
like how I would respond to them, and if I
would if they would be able to understand what I
was saying to them when I said, like, yes, I
(02:15):
am t You're nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, that's so funny because in real life you're so
you have incredible diction and elocution.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I think that I have.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think I've tried to hide my California accent for
most of my life. I don't know why I had.
I was born with some some sort of shame around
being from La So yeah, I think I almost drive
a mid Atlantic at times.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You do you, I feel like, do you overcompensate now
as folks come up to you and say tater.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I think sometimes I'm like suck. I think I just
like go right in. People are oftentimes like very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
They're like they're like, hey, hey, will you call me
a skunkhred filling the rest of that sentence, And I'm like, sure,
don't sue me.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's so funny. People want you to roast them, they do.
That's funny because people want to roast me. Most people
come up to me and say, shut the fuck up, Jimmy,
and people want you to roast them. That's so funny.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
That is Are we allowed to drop the f bumb
on the show?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This is exciting, Jin What an honor it is to
have you here, What an honor to uh to be
co hosting this thing together.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't believe it. There is no one in the
world that I would rather spend this time with than you.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Jeff.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I feel the same way, especially since I feel like
we were torn apart by storylines, you know when each other.
We were torn apart years ago. Now, I mean it
was two seasons. It'll be a whole season for the audience.
But we shot season four in twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Twenty twenty summer twenty twenty, right, and.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Then we were torn apart a few episodes in.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, it's funny. While we were working on season four,
I was at least up in Montana because Jimmy started
season four up in Montana. Now I'm really feeling the
effects of the banishment for the first time. You know,
it feels so strange to have been far away from
you guys for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Well, you're missed, like not only in the bunk house
on the show. But the vibe is not the same.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Can you imagine can you imagine if everybody was like that? Yeah, Jeff,
the vibe is way better. We don't know what it was.
Something was just kind of cursed about season one through
four and season five, we're just having a good time.
It feels like, oh, weight has been lifted.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
It just feels breezier. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, about about two hundred pounds of dead weight just
hanging around your neck for four seasons. Well, I hope
you're happy, Jen, you got you want it?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Hey, Well we're talking about poundage real quick, like I
don't And by the way, please producer step in and
the recording and we'll go back. Jeff, can I can
we like, does the audience know that you have like
you are swol Like your muscle gain is like overwhelming,
Like there's no way that we can hit the word
(05:21):
pounds without me being like Jefferson White, legitimate, legitimately put
on like forty pounds of muscle and.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Then I lost it all again.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's not true, that's not true. I saw you in
a public setting, just to be clear, and you are ripped.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh, that's very very generous of you. The audience, you know,
they've got a lot to catch up. We know a
little bit more than they do, so so far we're
staying a little bit ahead of them, and they can
have they'll have their own relationship to my uh my
body dys morphia in a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Here.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I love body dysmorphia. It keeps all of us looking
really good.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, yeah, welcome to Hollywood. It keeps almost looking really
good and feeling really badly bad. So this season of Yellowstone,
I kind of can't believe it. Three episodes now, we're
three episodes into season five of Yellowstone. Just when I
keep thinking we've sort of hit the ceiling, just when
I keep thinking it can't get any bigger, the story
(06:23):
keeps getting bigger, the scale and scope of this thing
keeps expanding. Yeah, The very first thing that happens in
Yellowstone season five, episode one is John Dutton wins the
race to be the governor. All of a sudden, the
scope of the show expands from being one cattle ranch
(06:44):
to an entire state. John Dutton is responsible for the
entire state. When you read that script, tell me what
was your first response to that.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
My first thought was, Okay, great, how exciting Because the
world already, even though it existed, like you said, on
this one ranch, the world already felt so big. So
the promise of it sort of expanding infinitely now at
this point was exciting. It was also incredibly daunting, and
(07:15):
because you weren't there, Jeff, and everything was breezy. Because
you weren't there, you didn't get to experience that. Like,
the largeness of the world that we're entering into also
made the largeness of.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
The scenes really really.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A sort of momentous task to take on from a
production and directing standpoint. I mean, there were so there
were these scenes where we had every single person basically
in the cast and the entire state of Montana.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's amazing, and you see that it's funny how I'm
always looking for the ways in which the narrative of
the show lines up with the narrative of the process
of making it. Totally this is It's one of these
situations where for four seasons we've had our own private
little paradise out on the Dutton Ranch, and then in
(08:08):
season five, episode one, just like you're describing, all of
a sudden, the rest of the state comes to the
Dutton Ranch. There's hundreds of background Yeah, and the cowboys
the bunk house, you know, as they come out of
the bunk house in their dress shirts and look at
the scene unfolding. It must be a little bit like
that in real life, huh.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
It felt like that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And it also like there were all these parallel moments, like,
for example, like one of the points in the scene
is like, you know, the cowboys are you know, we're
cowboy jousting in the arena, and like we're the ones
having a blast.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
They're not. And let me tell you, on the day
when we were shooting, we were the ones having a party.
I mean, like even in between takes, we're still going
after each other. I had rope burns so bad. I learned.
I learned never to celebrate by grabbing me under your rope.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I'd rope so bad that I had to sleep with
my hand elevated by like a window that was bringing
an eighteen degree air for about four nights.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
But it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Jeff, Yeah, will you describe because I wasn't there, I
missed it, and I'm to be honest, I'm pissed that
I missed it. Will you please describe cowboy jousting for us?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, which when I read it, I went, what's this?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And then somebody showed me.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's basically it's almost like a what's the thing where
you're it's what's the thing where you run on the
horse with the whole jousting?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's basically jousting on foot with a rope, so you're
running towards each other, and it is really a timing
thing because if you throw yours too early you could
miss and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You're aiming for the other person's feet. You got.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You both kind of run full steam ahead, you don't
chicken out, and then you pull up and one of you.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It's a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah. If it goes well, somebody is doing a face.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Plant, or both people are or a tailblone, a tailbone
is getting broken. I saw Jay Rod, who our amazing
stunt coordinator. I saw him lean over to the guy
who I was going to be jousting with, bless his heart,
who's about six or five. I think I called him
Paul Bunyon on one take and he and he must
(10:23):
have whispered, like, do me a favor. Just fall really
hard for her every time, because because I really like her,
and she tries hard, so you know.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh, that's amazing. I bet you really got him. And
this is another funny thing about it. A couple of
times I was gonna say, I bet you really knocked
him the fuck over, to be honest, because you and I,
you and I are funny in this way, Jen, and
we kind of have parallel journeys in this way. You know,
when we started working on Yellowstone, this has been a
(10:52):
deep dive into a world that wasn't our world. You know,
neither of us necessarily come from a you know, we
have and we each have our own histories, our own
backgrounds with this stuff, but neither of us come directly
from the cowboy world, the ranching world. And we've had
this journey over the course of the last five years
(11:14):
immersing ourselves in this and I think you and I
both have really and our whole cast and our whole crew,
all of us, my gosh, we have tremendous respect for
this world. We have tremendous admiration for folks who grew
up in this life, this culture, this history, and so
much of our jobs over the last five years has
been learning stuff that we never otherwise would have had
(11:37):
any exposure to and embracing it and you know, doing
our best to do this life proud. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think what we both really had in common is
that we were probably the least I mean, you obviously
came in season one, I came in season three, but
it felt like we both maybe were the least experienced
of the group going in. And also you and I
are we're both kind of nerds, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Like we really hone in on a thing, you know,
I'm sure you have.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I imagine like we both could have some books on
like the physics of roping laying around, you know, and
and and also yeah, the the thing that Taylor really
does so well when he writes is to sort of
honor the world that he is capturing, and then he
(12:31):
also instills that so much in us. I worry about
writing almost more than I worry about acting. And that
clip that we heard at the top, you know, as
an actor, normally you're just criticizing your performance, but now
you're just like, really.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
That's how, that's how I rode that horse that day.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Like, looking back on it years later, I'm like, it's
it's it's it's humiliating.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
There's a lot of you know, you and I self critical,
lifelong good students, obsessed with doing a good job and
impressing the teacher. This is a funny, and you expressed
this idea that I think really resonates through all of
Yellowstone is Yellowstone the show itself is about these worlds colliding,
you know, the West and the mini forces sort of
(13:21):
colliding with it in the modern day, right in the
year at twenty twenty two, all the sort of forces
from outside the West sort of smashing into it, and
this kind of almost biblical struggle between history and progress,
and so much of the experience of making the show
represents this kind of collision between those of us with
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acting backgrounds, those of us with filmmaking backgrounds, and those
of us with ranching backgrounds, with cowboy backgrounds, with Texas backgrounds,
Montana backgrounds, and Taylor Sheridan is somebody who embodies both
of those things fully at the same time. He is
what reconciles those two worlds. He's a cowboy and he's
(14:05):
a writer, and he's a filmmaker, and he's a rancher
and he's a horse trainer and he's an actor. He
in himself, in his body, reconciles that contradiction. And so
I think the rest of us, those of us from
the ranching world and those of us from the filmmaking, acting, television,
film world, we are all sort of aspiring to contain
(14:28):
within us the contradiction that Taylor does absolutely, so that
conversation is an ongoing one. I can't wait to dive
into these first three episodes in depth, but first let's
just do an ad break really quick. So that contradiction,
(14:51):
those the contradiction these worlds colliding, is represented so perfectly
in the struggle that faces John Dutton from the very
beginning of season five. He all of a sudden has
these new responsibilities, He's got these new sort of duties
that are not familiar to him. He's out of his
element and how the question from the beginning of season
(15:14):
five feels like, how can he reconcile his background, his history,
his tradition with his new responsibilities and all of this
sort of forces arrayed against him, which is a fascinating question.
It really feels like Season five, episode one is almost
like everything that came before, This is almost a prequel,
(15:36):
and the show it really begins on a new level,
at a new scale in season five. Absolutely, And one
thing I really think is fascinating about this is also
the introduction of all of these new characters. You know,
starting in season five, we are introduced to new characters.
(15:58):
And then also there's the amazing through as John Dutton
pushes forward into the future. As we see him sort
of accelerating towards the future, we're also pulled back into
the past with these amazing sort of fully fleshed out
flashbacks to this earlier timeline, you know, to a timeline
(16:19):
that we've briefly explored in the past that we're now
digging deeper into into the history of some of our
favorite relationships on Yellowstone, you know, these formative relationships Rip
and Beth a couple that we've been rooting for for
five years.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
The whole RiPP and Beth storylines and the way they
serve it in the flashbacks in episode one is it's
one of my favorite things in the show. I think
they did an unbelievable job in terms of the casting
of Kai and Kyle and the way there's almost this
(16:56):
there's a visual similarity between the two of them. So
there's this real parallel between the Rowdy and Rip character.
We sort of Rowdy's the character. You know, Rowdy's the
tough one at the time. I mean, you know, by
the time we show up, nobody's tougher than Rip, you know.
And you know in those flashbacks we see that Rip
(17:19):
is more meek. And I just love that those boys,
while looking very different, did share some physical commonalities to
draw that parallel, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it's such a cool thing. It's like, you know,
Rip has such a mythic quality to him, the Rip
that we know he's gotten more complicated. Of course, over
the course of five seasons, we've started to see his humanity,
especially as it relates to Beth and to Carter, but
to see sort of where Rip began. Sort of the
kind of origin story of this character that we admire
(17:50):
so much is an incredible thing. And you're totally right
at the beginning there, he's he's not so different than Carter,
He's not so different than Jeter. When we're first introduced
to him. You know, he's this kid who's had an
incredibly difficult life. He's faced many challenges and he's just
trying to survive. The Casting of these young actors who've
also been on the show, I think since season one.
(18:12):
I think in season one we were first introduced to
Kyle red Silverstein's young Rip and to Kylie Rodgers young Beth.
To talk about stepping into some big shoes. Kylie Rodgers
is absolutely incredible. I have amazed such she's got an
impossible job. That's the kind of job that I would
(18:34):
be terrified of to try to step into Kelly Riley's shoes,
and she does it with such tremendous presence. To be
a young actor and to be able to live up
to Kelly Riley's performance of Beth, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, She's she's incredible.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's that is a job that is truly that would
be truly, truly daunting, but she does it so beautifully
and she doesn't. What I love is that she trusts
that she has enough in common with her to not
hide any of herself. Like it doesn't feel like she's
putting on a performance, you know. It feels like that
(19:13):
it is something that is really coming out of her,
which I love.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So it is such a cool thing to see these actors,
these young actors, fully embodying these characters that we love
so much and living up to. To be honest, I
would be so intimidated to step into Coolhauser's shoes or
Kelly Riley's shoes. So I have tremendous respect for these
young actors.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, and they both, I mean, they both basically exhibit
a maturity that far seeds their age and is a maturity.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That exceeds ours.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Jeff, Yeah, we hope in another ten years that we
will be able to have the grace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah. Let's just say if they were recording this podcast,
they would be speaking much more eloquently about every sort
of element of this dramaturgy. I also want to give
a big shout out to Kay Caster, Yeah, who plays Rowdy,
who we've been talking about, Because anytime you're coming into
the fifth season of a show like this. It's a
show that's like a behemoth. It's an intimidating thing. And
(20:16):
these are young actors who carry themselves with such ease,
with such sort of quiet confidence. I admire it tremendously.
So great job to them. I'm learning from them from
watching their performances.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
And I got to meet Kai at Cowboy Camp this year,
and you know, we you know, I figured he was
playing rowdy and I just fell in love with him.
He was, you know, because Cowboy Camp is such a
bonding experience. You're thrown into safe situations that are terrifying
and then you eat food together and bond over it.
(20:55):
And he was really one of the gems. He was
just such a in that whole process. And then I
never saw him again because he exists in a different time.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh it's so funny. Yeah, there's these parallel worlds. Yeah,
but that it also what's fun about it is there
is a young teeter somewhere somewhere in Arkansas while that
is happening.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You that's true, I mean, have you?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, I feel like we're all actively t trying
to have Kolhauser's daughter play young teeter, like at least
in some sort of even external to the show, some
kind of like role play thing.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Who anyway, for another.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Episode, we should just have her on because she's cool
and I love that kid.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
She became a real friend, a real friend this summer.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's amazing. I feel like I was I disappeared and
I was replaced in aggregate with a bunch of a
bunch of much better, younger, more interesting, cooler, more competent
versions of me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It's a little strange to have like a group of
friends who are children, Like thin became a real bud,
and like it's very hard to explain to people, like, no,
we're friends, Like it's there, We're I'm hanging out with
my friend.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
They're just twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, we got to talk about that for a second,
because because in episode five oh one, we're introduced to
some familiar faces, some young versions of familiar faces, and
then we're introduced to a face that is should be
familiar but is barely recognizable. Yeah, which is Carter. Carter
has uh, Carter's grown a little.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, Carter played by the same actor. But at first
it feels like one of those very bizarre recasts where
they're like they couldn't find someone who looked a little
bit more like.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
The other actor.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's like a House of the Dragon time jump. It's
like all all of a sudden, yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, he he.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know, when I first saw him, I think it
was a day that we were just riding. You know,
on days when we're not shooting and they're not using
the ranch, a bunch of us will go ride and
just work on stuff. And gosh, he walked right by
me and I had no idea who he was. And
it wasn't until he opened his mouth and I like
looked in his eyeballs and I was like, oh, my goodness,
(23:11):
it is Finn, not so little anymore. It's it's it,
I mean, And I have to say, like he we
got to hang out. We got to hang out a
lot this year, and that that guy is so special.
I actually have a Zelda game because I butt a
Nintendo Switch and he lent me his Zelda video game.
I think he wanted it back before we ended, but
(23:32):
I hadn't beat the game in time, so I still
have it.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you really interrogate that for a second, Jen, that
means that you've you've stolen candy from a child.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I have stolen property from a young person. That's true.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Sorry, Catherine, You're saying it with like a friendly voice,
but it sounds to me like you're a bully.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Till you do everything in this business. What are you
talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right, Yeah, you bully with a friendly voice. So, so
it is a fascinating thing.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
As as season five propels us perhaps too fast, into
the future, a future that John Dutton is wary of,
a future he's doing everything in his power to resist,
we are also propelled backwards into the past. So it
really is a kind of fascinating duality. We're seeing what
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the Duttons are fighting so hard to protect, sort of
as we're watching them, you know, I hate to say it,
losing the battle to protect it. As we see as
the Dutton's forces are spread ever more thin and their
enemies are spread ever more thickly, we're also watching the
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very legacy that they're trying to protect. I also just
want to give a shout out. Listen you guys listening
to this, God bless you. You're going to learn something
about me and Jen which is that actor's favorite thing
to talk about is other actors. You know not to
speak for Jen god blet. You know, Jen, you got
your own prerogative. My thing that I love most in
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the world is actors and acting, so over and over again,
you're gonna hear me gush about, you know, some of
my favorite actors in the world, which is our cast
mates on Yellowstone And if you get sick of it,
I'm sorry. I'm not very good at hosting a podcast.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You're fantastic at posting at hosting a podcast. And I
was actually in agreement with you that whole time, but
my connection on this podcast dropped out. So while I
was actually saying yes, Jeff, yes, I agree, I love
talking about fellow actors, it just sounded like I was
a jerk and I was just.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, damn. It was like, yeah, you guys can't see
this at home. But Jen was shaking her head that
whole time. She has nothing but contempt for the other
actors on the show.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Can I like, I actually just like, while we're talking
about actors on the show, there were people who got
some shout out. Did you see this shout out that
Jake Reim got from his performance in episode one?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No who shouted him out?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Vulture?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yes, it was like one of the highlights. It was
like Jake Ream's expression of genuine Bill wilderment at the
sudden drive by insults made me laugh, What the hell
are you all on my ass for? I mean, it
was one of like seven acting moments really pulled out.
And for those of you who don't know, Jake Ream
is not somebody who enters into the show as somebody
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with an acting background.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
He is somebody who enters into the show as somebody
who is a.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Cutting horse trainer and a wrangler background. And he is
one of the best improvisers. And I think he's actually
one of the most truthful actors I've ever worked with
in my life.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He is so funny. Yeah, it is really Jake Reim
has been acting for about as long as we've been
riding horses, which is, you know, five seasons now, and
he is he has gotten much better at acting, much
faster than we've gotten better at riding. That's not really fair,
that is correct. When we were never no, no, you go,
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you go, you go.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
When we were when we were shooting the this is
just like behind. This is when we are shooting the governor.
When we were shooting the governor, ball scene, and we
were in the very far background and we're just dancing
in the background.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was no problem. I saw Jake.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Ream talking and I thought he was talking to the
woman he was dancing with. But then I saw that
the woman he was dancing with wasn't talking back at all.
And then I looked and I see that he's got
his head turned down, he's got his phone in his pocket,
and he's in the middle of selling a horse in
the deep background on the scene.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Jake, that's so funny. Yeah, it's really incredible. You can
take the horse trainer out of the barn, but you
can't take the barn out of the horse trainer, or
a real cowboy would come up with a better saying
than that. It really is. It is a pretty amazing
because it's also like also Ethan Lee. I mean, like,
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so there's lots of really funny bunk house sort of
sequences in the first few episodes of season five that
have aired so far. Ethan Lee is also getting his
jokes in. Now, it's pretty amazing, I really Ethan Lee
is also a remarkable actor, and Ethan is an actor
and a stunt performer in addition to being an incredible writer.
So it is really fun to get to see him
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do more, to get to see all these characters that
have been cooking for five seasons, been simmering like a
chili and a crock pot, are now so rich and
full of flavor, which is a really amazing thing to see.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know, we have this, we talk about those parallels
that are you know, on screen and off screen. The
thing that's crazy is that nobody knew that Ethan was
funny in real life until Taylor started writing him jokes.
And now suddenly like he's become incredibly funny off camera.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Like we always knew he.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Was lovely, soulful, wonderful, talented, amazing smart, we didn't know
he was that guy's got zingers.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
They're coming out left on right now.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He's got zingers. By season five, the zingers are flying
all over the place and it is It's very funny.
In episode one there when Jake is catching more than
his fair share of the zingers, I feel bad abandoning
him because when Jimmy was there, there was more than
one person to make fun of. Now that Jimmy's out
of the way, Jake is catching more than his fair
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share of those shots and that collateral damage. So so
we've talked a bunch about John Dutton's new role as
the Governor. We've talked about what the bunk House is
up to. Let's take a break really quick, and when
we get back we'll catch up on everything else. So
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we've talked about John Dutton's new role as the Governor,
the new forces and sort of challenges facing him. We've
talked about what the bunk House is up to. Another
crucial although less obviously less fun to talk about. Yeah,
plot point of episode one is the tragic loss of
Casey and Monica's child.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
That was heartbreaking, it really was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, it's it's one of these Tailor's brilliant. He sets
you up on these highs. He gives you a party,
he gives you what you want to see. You want
to see, you know, Rippin' Beth being romantic, you want
to see, you know, these victories, the cowboys having a
good time. And then right when you're feeling safe and secure,
he pulls the rug out from under you and drops
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you on your drops you on your ass. And the
end of episode one really is that it's a brutal
expertly acted, expertly shot, expertly sort of executed sequence that
reminds us, you know, reminds us that the West is
these highs, this sort of beautiful, joyful, you know, community,
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and it's also brutally difficult and challenging and punishing it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But it also sort of like, you know, so much
of the episode, like you said, is about this, you know,
HD becoming governor and these sort of bigger things and
progress versus this and all of these sort of ideals
and you know, and esoteric ideas. But this is something
that sort of makes all of that, in a strange way,
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not matter, because that's something that we can all relate
to when there's some sort of devastating loss like that
that is close to home, that in particular involves a child,
Like for a moment, all that other stuff goes away.
I mean, I know for me watching the episode, I mean,
in that moment, it's like that's the only thing that exists,
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and it certainly puts a lot in perspective, and it
just frames that whole episode really well.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You're so right, it's fascinating. You know, these contradictions we've
been talking about getting pulled in multiple directions at once
as the scale of the show gets bigger, as that
it gets more complicated, as more and more sort of
the conflicts get bigger, they're more legal, they're sort of
harder to resolve. This sequence and this loss really brings
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us back to the kind of most intimate, most human,
most sort of instinctually painful on an animal level loss
that you can imagine.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And yeah, and Taylor also like writes in you know
some of those other simple intimate moments, you know, towards
the end with with JD and Carter, for example, that
moment where he tells them basically to stop growing up,
that if you grow a beard, you're fired, you know,
which is another thing that we is so simple that
we all relate to in terms of just the greatest
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devil of them all sometimes, which is time, this this
train that you can't stop. So he just grounds the
end of that episode and just really basic, devastating or
not so devastating human experiences. I feel like that's one
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of his superpowers.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You're totally right, And that's an amazing sort of parallel
to draw. It really feels like John Dutton is sort
of drawing a line in the sand and then you know,
waves of time are just washing it away over and
over again. There's nothing he can do to stop that tide.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
You know, what do you think, Jeff, what do you
what do you think about that last moment when Tate
in the hall says to j D I had a
brother for an hour anyway, And then he says, they
named him John.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Oh, it's brutal. It's it's you know, it's John Dutton.
In many ways, many many episodes throughout Yellowstone or John
Dutton sort of facing his own mortality, facing the mortality
of his legacy. So much of what he does is
to protect his family, to protect generations to come. He's
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doing everything he can to try to control the future.
And this is just a little reminder that no matter
what you do, no matter how hard you fight, you
can't control everything. And you can't. There's you know, time,
Time comes for all of us.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, it also, I mean, I actually it's so funny
in some ways. I don't know, because I haven't revisited
some of these episodes because we shot them so long ago.
But it also feels almost like a foreshadowing or a
harbinger of you know, as John's.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Focus gets out and elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
There's a real threat to what he might lose back
home while he's you know, there's a real threat to
losing you know, almost everything, it feels like. And I
just want to say our producer, who's been incredibly quiet
during this recording, Scott, Who's Who's a pretty tough guy
(35:08):
at this point. In the little beat sheet that he
hands Jeff and I, he actually has a parenthetical.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
He couldn't help himself.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
He had a write down, but in that hospital moment,
in parentheses, he wrote, I cried. So it was like
amidst all of these very clean notes, like he was
so overwhelmed with feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
He's actually he's also crying right now, right now, you
guys can't see it because it's not on video, but
he's just tears are streaming down his face. Wow, Scott,
this is actually the fourth or fifth time he's cried
just during this recording set.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Special lot of tissue.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, it's a scented one too. Looks like it's that
with the aloe, so your nose doesn't get that's nice.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He's not going to get irritated. Yeah, you're so right
jin that like the one of the themes of this
season that we'll keep talking about as we now move
forward into to episode two is that John Dutton has
to go further and further away from home to protect
his home. He's getting pulled away from the very thing
that he's trying to protect, and it puts everybody in danger.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, and you know, I don't want to give too
much weight because I know we're only in you know,
the first three episodes, but you know, that feeling of
missing him, Missing Kevin was.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Also a thing that I felt this year.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Like it was it was something that my character sort
of felt, and then it was something that I felt
as an actor on set. It was like, you know,
because of course when you're shooting Yellowstone, people are like,
how's Kevin, you know, and the answer is always amazing,
And this year it was like, I haven't seen him,
you know, and it was it was this.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Thing of really sort of of missing the main Papa Bear.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, his presence. Kevin is a leader on set in
the same way that John Dutton is the leader of
that ranch. And you were also saying earlier that you
missed me. Starting to wonder kind of like, was that
was any of that real?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Was any of my missing you real.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, you're saying it about.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Jeff. I'll be fully honest with you. It was much
easier without you. But I did no, I I did
miss you. No, I missed you horribly. I miss you.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I miss you even now, Jeff, I can see you.
You're a small You look like a playing card. Frankly,
for some reason, you look, where's the Yellowstone playing cards?
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I just came up. Do we have a one on
one studios? Are you hearing me? Do we have a
yellow playing card?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's funny, you know. Season five, episode one, an episode
in which Jimmy Herdstrom does not appear one time, is
the most watched episode of television across all across all
television this year. Which while I listen, I want to
root for the team. I want to say, you know,
(38:00):
go Cubs, even when I'm not playing, even when I'm
not on the field.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Are the ship that got us here? You are?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You are?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
You are the ship that got us here?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Theseus? Does it even? Is it even still the same
ship now that the sales are gone? Listen, listen, listen
Yellowstone Season five, episode two. A lot of stuff is happening.
There's a lot of and once again part of one
of the exciting things about this season particularly is these
new threats, these new challenges, these new characters. So in
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Yellowstone season five, episode two, we are introduced to Sarah Attwood. Yes,
will you talk a little bit about Dawn, about the experience,
about your experience of this character, this character who kind
of leaped off the page.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Oh my goodness, you know when I read When I
read that character, it definitely felt like, okay, it was
just the promise of scenes between her, between Sarah and Beth,
it was like we just it was just this incredible
like you could you just could only imagine what was
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gonna come.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
That was one of the characters that excited me the most.
Don Is I actually met don for the first.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Time four days ago, maybe it was five days ago
at the premiere, which I think we're going to get
to in a little bit to talk about. But she's
so amazing. I've been you know, I'm a fan of
hers from eighteen eighty three.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
I love her other works.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
She's just a dynamite actress and a really cool person.
And I was really excited. I'm really excited to continue
to watch that character on screen.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's so cool, it's like, you know, we were talking
earlier about Kylie Rodgers having the challenge of stepping into
Kelly riley shoes Young Beth. How about Dawn having to
step up to go toe to toe. It's like signing
up to fight Muhammad Ali. You know, it's like signing
up to fight Floyd Mayweather. You're signing up to go
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into the ring with the toughest, meanest fighter on the show.
And it's an incredible thing. And she rises to that challenge.
It's a very exciting, very exciting conflict there.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So Also in this episode, I just want to flag
this because you know, we're introducing new enemies and we're
introducing new allies, which I think is a really fun
element of this season. So an actor that I'm a
big fan of joins the show, which is really exciting
to me. And that's Lily Kay playing Clara, who's John
(40:50):
Dunton's new assistant.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, Lily's Lily is amazing.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
And for people who follow the cutting world at all,
the name Clara Brewer is going to sound a bit
familiar because there is one of the best female cutting
horse trainers.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
In the world is Cara Brewer.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
And I think that that name somehow got into Taylor's
brain and made it out onto the page.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
And Lily Kay is one.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Of the coolest people I've ever met in my life.
She would robot dance with us all day long, Jeff,
like it was just you and I awkwardly robot dancing,
but like Lily Kay, She's gonna robot dance with us.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
She's amazing. I'm really excited. I hope we can get
her as a guest in a later episode of the show,
because I'd love to hear about her background. I've been
a fan of her work for a long time. She's
amazing and she does an incredible job again stepping into
stepping basically into the ring with Kevin Costner, with Kelly Riley,
with you know, Wes Bentley, surrounded by these giants, these
these geniuses, and really holding her own. So I'm so
(41:55):
excited to get to know her character and I'd love
an opportunity to talk to her some more and get
to do you hear about her her process of working
on the show.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Also just fun fact for the audience. Until we get her, Lily,
you have no option but to come on the show.
When you listen to this episode of money. We're manifesting,
We're manifest This is positive affirmation. Lily is actually has
been riding horses her whole life and is a phenomenal writer,
and so the audience should look forward to that as well.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, that's incredible. She's playing She's playing the governor's assistant.
Only on Yellowstone is the young actor who's brought in
to play the governor's assistant also an expert rider who
can hold her own. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
I also have this feeling that Lily is good at
everything and somehow is not annoying at all.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Usually the two do not go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, it's funny because I'm good at nothing and very annoying.
I'm sort of on the other side of that.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Spaced you out self deprecated me. You left me no
further insult to apply to myself.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I went nuclear right at the beginning, than you.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Because I couldn't come up with one.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Okay, So, Jeff, I have a question for you, even
though unfortunately, as we know, you were not in this
episode or the scene. I was curious what your thoughts
were about the scene. Were Colby and Ryan go out
and hunt the wolves and end up in a pickle
far greater than they expected.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, the bunk house. You know, usually these guys, they're
good soldiers. They do what they're told. Usually, you know,
they've got a few layers of excuses here, they're just
following orders. This time they really screw the pooch. So obviously,
you know, they find signs that the herd is being
haunted by wolves. They find evidence of this, Ripsen's Colby
(43:49):
and Ryan Ian Bowen and Denim Richards to go handle
it in the dead and night. They're using thermal scopes
to try and sort of quietly eliminate the issue. But
because they're using thermal scopes, they don't see that the
wolves that they're hunting are wearing these tracking collars, which
means they're wolves from Yellowstone National Park, which means they
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are the most protected, sort of most sacred wolves, you know, imaginable.
So they're basically really really stepping in it and really
causing huge ramifications, potentially huge ramifications for the ranch by
killing these wolves. I think it's described in the episode.
(44:33):
These wolves have Facebook pages. They're sort of they are, right,
they are like public figures, they're influencers, right.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
And by virgue of the fact that they're tracking callers,
They're going to be able to see where those wolves
went and where they maybe started walking at a slightly
stranger pattern.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Exactly. So, we've taken a lot of people to the
train station who didn't have the benefit of tracking callers.
If you've got a GPS locator attached to you, you
can't just you can't just get tossed, you know, in
a ravine somewhere in the you know, the greater the
greater Tri State area. So say really stepped in it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
In many ways, the wolves are a greater threat than
any train station victims so far.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
That's exactly right. Yeah, Yeah, there wasn't a GPS tracking
caller on the Beck brothers.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
You know, they didn't, right. They also they didn't take them.
They didn't take the wolves to the train station, right,
they took them. They took them to the river.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
So, so in an effort to like cover up their cribs, basically,
they they toss these GPS callers into the river, hoping
that they'll simply wash downstream, hoping that they'll find their
way back into the park and off of the ranch. Yes, However,
is it bad that all I'm.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Hearing is the song take Me to the River.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
That's right, that's a GPS collar singing that song.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Oh, it's all.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
No in all seriousness, And it's a really confusing issue
that no episode is long enough to get into the
wolf issue in Montana, and there are many different feelings
about how to deal with it and many different sides,
and it's it's complicated and ongoing. That is that is
something that Taylor wrote into the show, and that is
something that is very real and current for the people
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in Montana right now.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, And it's been you know, wolves as a through
line since Yellowstone season one. Like wolves and the question
of these wolves what they represent, both literally, metaphorically and logistically,
that's been a part of Yellowstone from the very beginning.
And it does feel like in season five here, as
the Duttons are increasingly distracted, you know, Rip describes it
(46:52):
as a you know, nero fiddling while Rome burns, you know,
as are increasingly distracted, mistakes like this are happening at
the worst possible juncture. You know, the forces are spread
more thin than ever before, and little mistakes like this
start creeping in through the cracks. You know, this is
(47:15):
the kind of mistake that case you know, Casey has
a very specific sort of sacred relationship to these wolves, right.
You know, John Dutton understands John Dutton would never make
this mistake. Rip might not ever make this mistake. But
these decisions are having to sort of trickle down further
and further as the forces are spread more and more thin,
until mistakes like this can start to sort of creep through. Yeah,
(47:37):
and it'll be interesting to see. This is something that
I think we're going to be tracking like a little
GPS collar for the rest of the season, you know,
to see how this how this plays out.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
It definitely feels like the thing that's going to come
back and bite you in the butt. It just feels
like at every turn, this is the thing that's going
to come back. And so it has I mean, I
I find that to be a brilliant writing device.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
And it does come back to bite them in the
ass very quickly, because in episode three, all of a sudden,
wildlife agents are showing up looking for these wolves, right,
and all of a sudden, Yeah, they're they're engaged in
this complicated, elaborate cover up to try to basically protect
themselves from the legal ramifications of having shot these wolves,
you know, and this is a you know, it's a
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it's a big, big crisis. It's a little mistake that
can turn into a big crisis for the ranch.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Which isn't even bigger crisis now because of course John is.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
Governor. So it's one thing if just.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
A very massive landowner has it, but now he is,
he is in public office.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's a huge scandal for a governor. Basically, this could
cost them everything. It's a little mistake that could cost
them everything. I'm trying to think what the saying is
for want of a horseshoe, for want of a horseshoe nail.
You know, Rome burned. It's all about Rome.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
I'm very impressed with your idioms in general.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
But I get like half of them. I'm always combining them.
You know, two birds in the bush is worth an
apple a day. Listen. So, also in episodes two and three,
in our flashback sequences, we're getting more sort of we're
revealing more and more of the history, the recent history
of the Dutton rancher. We're also seeing a sort of
recent struggle that the Dutton's had with pesticides. We're seeing
(49:28):
the return of the King Josh Lucas as young John Dutton,
and it's so fun. I love this moment in the
Dutton history because Josh Lucas John Dutton is transformed after
having lost his wife. When we saw Josh Lucas in
season one, it was he had a sort of lightness
to him, a kind of joy and ease to him.
(49:50):
As we's reintroduced here, we're seeing that the weight of
the loss of his wife, the weight of the responsibility
of managing this family and the ranch without his anchor,
without his wife to help him keep his family together,
is weighing on him heavily. I really am so impressed
(50:11):
and kind of inspired and like just just kind of
awestruck by the weight that Josh Lucas is bringing to
John Dutton in this season. You really it's connecting the
dots between the young John Dutton we saw in season
one of Yellowstone and and John Dutton as played by
Kevin Costner in season five of Yellowstone. It's a really
(50:32):
cool performance.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, Josh is like an incredibly thoughtful, surgical actor, and
none of those choices are happen. Those are all very
conscious choices. None of that is fluke on his part.
He's so deeply thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
It's such an exciting, such an exciting performance. It really,
I mean, all those actors in that timeline. That's one
of my favorite things about this season is getting to
sort of explore that recent history, these characters that we
know so well, getting to see the forces that made
them the way they are now. Also in episode three, uh,
Sarah Atwood finally sort of uh springs her trap on Jamie.
(51:11):
So market equities and the mini forces uh target ranch.
I know they've identified Jamie as a kind of potential
vulnerability for the Dutton ranch, for the Dutton you know,
Phalanx to keep sticking with this Roman imagery. Oh boy,
if you're going you know, if you're like a Rome
(51:33):
scholar listening to this, and I'm biffinite left and right.
I never claimed to be an expert on Rome. I'm
not actually an expert on anything. I'm just a moron.
So I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what I said about Rome. Listen, listen, listen.
The point is that Jamie has been identified as the
kind of weak link here, and Sarah Atwood is springing
(51:53):
her trap. She's she's sort of setting into motion this
manipulation of Jamie, which is very very exciting because Wes
Bentley like no, but no character on the show has
been through quite what Wes Bentley's Jamie has been through.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
No, No, And what makes it hard is that Wes
Bentley is truly one of the nicest people I have
ever met, and also just funny as all get out,
and those two things we don't really get to see
much of. You know, Jamie is not a laugh riot.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
In season episode five oh one, he really gets me
with that. And when he goes we're all going to jail,
that is like, no, it's getting paid to LLC in Utah,
and Jamie's like, we're all going to jail. It's very good.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
And then another very exciting development in a very exciting
sort of loose end here in season five, episode three,
basically Beth's feeling good. She's made a masterful power play
to protect the rand from market equities. She says, hey,
fuck it, take me to the bar. Let's go to
the bar, and everybody loads up and rides out and
(53:09):
goes to the bar. Will you talk about that a
little bit because I can't wait to hear what that
was like behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Yeah, I can't talk about it without talking about the
moment before in the bunk.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
House where she throws out the suggestion of.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Going to the bar, and there was this amazing moment
on set where you know, Rip is definitely sort of
the boss that we report to, but now we have
the boss boss's daughter telling us what to do, and
it's this incredible conflict of interest where we're like, do
we listen to Rip? Do we listen to her? We
(53:43):
were all hoping that we got to go along with her,
and we did. Stepping into that bar that night was
really was really amazing because they did such a great
job of making sure everybody looked and felt a bit
like phony cow boys basically like me. And now I
(54:04):
got to be on the other side of that sort
of feeling some not disdain, but just you know, I
felt like they're a bunch of phony, blownies. And yeah,
it was another one of those scenes where you've got
a bunch of we've you know, we've got so much
cast in that scene. Of course, there's an amazing fight
(54:26):
that breaks out. Jay Rod choreographed that that was incredibly fun.
We definitely we definitely had some improvised moments in that
fight scene. There was definitely a few takes. It's you
know where it was like, okay, guys improvise, which is
always slightly terrifying but leads to some fight gems. But no,
(54:46):
Jay rod is actually just to not make light of that.
Jay Rohdd is such an incredible stunt coordinator. He's one
of the most technical people I know. And he not
only thinks like a stunt coordinator, he thinks like a writer,
he thinks like a direct or, he thinks like an actor.
He's he's sort of brilliant. That scene was a blast.
Dancing with Kelly Riley was a blast. And then of
(55:08):
course we have the great moment where the character Hayley,
who is you know, played perfectly by Ashley Platts. Ashley
Peth is lovely in real life and just a nightmare
of a character in that first scene and comes up
to her and I got the best seat in the
(55:30):
house because I sort of got to be almost like
a parrot on Kelly's shoulder when she brought that bottle
down on her head. And that actress, I mean it
was breakaway or I have no idea what it was
made out of, but she she took whatever looked like
a real bottle and she took it, took it on
the head and she sold that real well.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
So Beth, you know, can't help herself, starts this huge fight.
It devolves into a massive scrum. The cops show up,
break this thing up. And there's this important sort of
idea that's introduced here, which is that there's a there's
a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
So, for the first four seasons, Sheriff Haskell was an
ally to the Dutton's, a sort of friend to John Dutton,
a longtime sort of supporter of the Duttons and their mission.
Now we've got Sheriff Ramsey, who's been played by Rob
Kirkland since season two. He's the new sheriff and it's
(56:25):
a it's a whole new ballgame. Now he's not quite
so friendly.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
Yeah, it feels like, you know, we're Taylor's ending on
this note again of everything is sort of a new
ballgame at every turn, that that the things that were
stacked in the Dutton's favor are no longer and it's
just another threat. And as as the Dutton world expands,
(56:52):
the threats around them get taller, uh and more potent.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, there's more and more sort of holes in the armor,
which is a really I gotta say, Beth, not a
great time to go to jail at a time when
you know, John's resources are spread so thin, when they've
got so few allies. Beth did not pick a great
time to get thrown into jail for starting a bar fight.
Speaker 5 (57:16):
There was no world where that girl wasn't getting hit
in the face.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
If it wasn't, there was just no world where it
wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, but let Teeter do it, you know what I mean,
Let someone who's you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
When we were shooting that, I had that the thought
is Teeter, like, you know, like I was ready to
take this on, Like I was like, I'm gonna you know,
and then when she clocked her in the head. I
mean there was one take I didn't even know it
came out of my mouth. She hit her, She hit
her so hard I went Jesus.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (57:53):
It was she, she had it. I mean, Beth is
the toughest female character of all time.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
She really is the wrong person to pick a fight with.
And we're going to, you know, we'll see the consequences
of BET's actions, of everybody's sort of actions moving forward,
and we could talk about this forever. This is three
of my favorite episodes of Yellowstone ever, episodes one, two,
and three here. And I also I can't wait to
talk to some of these actors. I can't wait to
(58:22):
dig even deeper moving forward as the stories. As these
stories progress, all these exciting new plot lines sort of
thunder forward, I can't wait to dig deeper and deeper
into them.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
I just want to thank you very much for allowing
me to join you as a host. Alongside you, I
appreciate your guidance, I enjoy your company, and I adore
our friendship, and I look forward to digging into the episodes,
interviewing actors and hopefully getting to talk with some people
(58:59):
who live the life that we portray on screen and
sort of get into the world that is the inspiration
for Yellowstone, and hopefully, you know, eat some good food
and get some good wine along the way.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Hell yeah, you said it way better than I ever
could have. Thank you for joining us on the Official
Yellowstone Podcast. We'll be back very soon to dig deeper.
Speaker 4 (59:27):
By now, listen to the Official Yellowstone Podcast every Sunday
on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts,
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