September 2, 2024 • 43 mins
In the season finale of There and Gone: South Street, coincidences and connections continue to reveal themselves. The team presses new leads around corruption as one of the leading voices in the pursuit of justice for Danielle and Richard is forced to hang it up.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
About a week after Danielle Imbo and Richard Patrone vanished,
Danielle's mother was at home watching Danielle's infant Sonne.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It was a Sunday when I had little Joe here
and they had set that downce to yourself was like
a big giant playrun.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
With toys scattered all over. Little Joe was playing with
his two cousins. It was all therapeutic for Felice, who
sat on a nearby couch desperately trying to keep her
mind occupied.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But then the voices of the children went silent.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's when Felice looked over and noticed little Joe, and
he kind of.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Like stopped in the middle of them playing, And all
of a sudden, little Joe looked up and he whispered, mommy.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Felice believes little Joe saw his mother that day.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That was unreal. Just looked up and whispered, mommy.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Therein Gone South Street
Episode ten, Saint Anthony.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Holladay is I say you in that dream? Reached out
on the dog for you, f and last to me,
I'll never give up.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
No matter how long I open my eyes. Define Gone.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Just to Note that the views and opinions expressed in
this podcast are solely those of the individuals participating. This
podcast also contains subject matter which may not be suitable
for everyone. Discretion is advised. I'm going to pull back
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the curtain a little bit. When a colleague of mine
first pitched doing a podcast about Danielle and Richard's mysterious disappearance,
I knew.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It would be an uphill climb.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Number One, the case has gone unsolved for nearly twenty years.
With all due respect, what could two Philly podcasters possibly
do that the FBI and four other law enforcement agencies
couldn't At the very least. I'm proud to say that
we've put the story back out there and in the
process rattled a few cages.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Number Two.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
People want to walk away satisfied, so a story without
an ending is usually a tough sell. Number Three, there
are a lot of things I wish I could have
reported on. There are also a lot of people I
wish you could have heard from. For legal reasons and
a host of other reasons, we couldn't share a lot
of stuff we uncovered. I'll explain more about that later
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in this episode.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
In episode nine, you heard from Jonathan Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He's the medium who has helped on some high profile
cases with the NYPD and FBI. I will say that
my colleague Ben and I wrestled with how to use
the information Jonathan provided. We didn't know how Danielle and
Richard's families would feel about it, and we knew there
would be a lot of skeptical people who'd hear it
and call it bullshit, and I completely get it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Thankfully, both families have kept an open mind.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
As for the rest of you, I will say this,
but drove us to seek out Jonathan was similar to
something Danielle's brother John said earlier in this series.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
It's like you're literally standing in the middle of a
snow covered field and there's not a footprint in any direction,
and you've got to figure out which way to go.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We needed direction, and even though Ben and I walked
into the session with a bit of skepticism, that all
evaporated once Jonathan started.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
This case must be gone on for like twenty years
or something. It happened outside a bar. There's a car
that's like gone too, whether it's a car or a minivan,
or a truck or something.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Jonathan even nailed some key details about what was happening
in Danielle in Richard's lives at the time.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
They both have two separate families, like kids and everything
with other partners. Danielle was cond alluding to like a
jealousy factor that revolves around her.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He even shared some phrases we've heard from our interviews
with the FBI.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
It's like wrong place, wrong time type of thing. You
ever hear a hit man or someone that's like a
paid killer.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Then Jonathan said the one word we had never come
across in this investigation.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
The corruption will lead to the answer to their passing.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Twenty one times during our session, Jonathan said the word corruption.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
And like typically when they repeat something over and over
and over again, like that's where they want these people
to dive into.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
First.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hearing that from Jonathan gave me and Ben a new
and final direction to investigate, and that's a big reason
why we decided to share that audio with you. Corruption
can me and a lot of things. It was an
area Ben dug into and it started at the Junkyard.
We spent a lot of time talking about Gianna Salvage.
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If you remember back in two thousand and five, Gianna's
was the only junkyard in Philly with an industrial crusher.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's rumored to be where Richard's truck ended up.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Although gianna Is closed years ago, Ben spent a good
amount of time digging into its owner, Rob lafloor.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
I came across this story trying to learn more about
Rob Lafleur. But what Vito shared when we interviewed him
was that Rob was dealing with two other issues around
the time of his death.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
He was a criminal subject of a separate FBI investigation
that had to deal with his strip joint club Oasis.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The FBI investigated Rob as part of an alleged kickback
scheme that involved the Philadelphia Police Department and the Philadelphia
Department of Licenses and Inspections, or as we call.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It locally, L and I. There was also a separate investigation.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
The other was a homicide that occurred outside of his bar.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That homicide happened in the parking lot of Rob Laflora's
strip club back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Here's veto again.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
There was a couple of irregulars that were showing up.
There was some dispute inside.
Speaker 9 (06:34):
Security led the people out and it kind of escalated
from there. Outside of Club Oasis, one of the patrons
winds up getting struck by the security manager and falling
and hitting his head and ultimately dying.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The victim who died was Jimmy Coons. He had gone
to Oasis to watch a Phillies playoff game with his friend,
but was thrown out of the club and wound up
dead on the pavement of the Oasis parking lot.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Doing homicide investigation wound up charging Rob Laflor and a
couple of others.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Three people, including Rob Lafloor, were initially charged with third
degree murder of Jimmy Coons.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
I spoke to the mother of Jimmy's children, I spoke
to his sister, and I spoke to the man that
was with Jimmy that night. His sister was the only
person willing to go on the record. She spoke at
length about that crime. And the one thing that stuck
with me around this whole topic is that the police
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covered Jimmy's death up, or at least attempted to. I
think the implication was Oasis, Rob and his associates had
a number to call if they had a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Listen to what's in the court transcripts of his case.
Following the incident in the parking lot, the Oasis bouncer
did not call nine to one one. Instead, he directly
called a philliped sergeant multiple times. That sergeant and his
partner later arrived on the scene. That sergeant also dispatched
two other officers, including an officer assigned to the canine unit.
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Seems odd to send the canine unit to a case
like this, right.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Two different sets of police showed up that night.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The two guys who got kicked out of Oasis also
dialed nine one one, so another set of cops showed
up on the scene.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Initially, Jimmy and his friend were seen as the suspects,
not as the victims.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Here's what one of the cops testified.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He said, Rob laflor was at the gym when he
got a call from his employees alerting him that two
patrons at Oasis were causing a disturbance, so Laflora drove
to Oasis. Laflora told the cops that once he arrived,
the two patrons tried to steal his Rolex watch and
started fighting with him in the parking lot. When the
police questioned la floor. About the security cameras at Oasis,
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Laflora said the cameras weren't working.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That was a lie. The police later.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Found out someone had simply disconnected the security system's computer monitor.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
The victim's sister went on to explain that the only
way she got justice for her brother was because eventually
these tapes and hard drives and footage were recovered and
played in court. Where were they recovered Gianna's junkyard.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's the same junk yard where Richard's truck was rumored
to have been crushed in two thousand and five. You
can't make this shit up.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
So this is a Delco Times article from February twenty ten.
Club owner Robert Lafleur and bouncer John Pettif are facing
trial for the murder in the death of James Coons.
They were among six defendants who appeared in court.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The murder trial started October fifteenth, twenty twelve, three years
after the death of James Coons. Before he would ever
see his day in cour court, rob Laflora died January
twenty twelve of an overdose.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
The cause of death, overdose by heroin, was unbelievable to
people close to Rob, he was not a heroin user.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
However, a January twenty nineteen Philadelphia Inquire article stated acquaintances
said that Lafleur had struggled with substance abuse for years
and recently spent time in a drug rehab in Malibu, California.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
The people I spoke with also spent a lot of
time asking why no one ever investigated Rob Laflor's death.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That left prosecutors with John aka Jack Pettitt, the bouncer
of Oasis, who was the other person charged with Jimmy
Coon's death. After a mistrial in years of delays, Pettit
ultimately was found guilty of third degree murder in twenty sixteen.
He got seven and a half to fifteen years, but
by April twenty twenty four, Pettit was released from prison.
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My team was able to speak with him briefly, but
he declined to speak on the record. Here's where the
story gets even more bizarre. Another defendant from the Oasis
parking lot death was a woman named Stacy Schoenberger. She
was charged with conspiracy to hinder prosecution, but a judge
throughout those charges, citing a lack of evidence and that
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wasn't the first time Ben and I heard the name
Stacy Schoenberger. Let's go back to two thousand and five,
right after Danielle and Richard disappeared. That's when both families
put up websites with news about the investigation. Richard's site
also had a message board. When we first started researching
this project, one of the things I had my team
do was log every post on Richard's message board. Having
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the names and words of those who posted at the
time felt significant, and it was the reason Ben and
I heard the name Stacy Schoenberger was because Stacy's name
appears among the hundreds of posts on that website with
the exact spelling Stacy with an eye. The post was
published just over a month after Richard and Danielle disappeared.
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It's still up on the website today. Here's what it said.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
It's a post from March twenty second, two thousand and five.
I am so sorry to hear about this. I pray
for your families every night. I have sent this to
every contact in my address book. I think she meant
my address book. The post continues, keep up the faith.
My prayers are with you.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did the patrons know who Stacy Schoenberger is.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
I asked the patron family if that was a family
friend or anyone they were related to, and the answer
was no.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean, like a lot of people wrote on this
memorial page, but that feels like a really odd coincidence.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
You want to hear a worse coincidence. Stacy's father worked
at Gianna's junkyard, James C. Schoenberger. His obituary says he
was a supervisor with the Gianna Salvage company.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
James Schoenberger died in twenty thirteen. On his legacy dot
com obituary, He's even photographed wearing a jacket with the
Gianna's logo on it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Ben contacted Stacy.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Schoenberger to verify that she posted on Richard's memorial page,
but Stacy did not want to go on the record
with us. Stacy Schoenberger refused to speak with us on
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the record. But she is just one person I wish
you could have heard from, And of course Danielle's estranged husband,
Joe Imbo, is at the top.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Earlier in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Four, Ben met up with Joe in person, but their
conversation was off the record, so we can't share what
he said in that meeting. But ten years earlier, Joe
had to sit down interview with journalist Steve Volk.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
I remember I got a yes when I expected to
know to interview him.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Back in twenty fourteen, Steve was writing an article about
Danielle and Richard for Philadelphia Magazine.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
I don't remember having to do any or much handholding
or talking before the fact. He pretty readily agreed.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The two met for breakfast at a cafe just outside
of Charleston.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
I had come in, though, with my constitutionally protected First
Amendment opinion, thinking it likely that he knew something because
there was so much attention paid to him, in particular
from the patrons.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Steve had his suspicions, and Joe understood. He said he
was aware that people viewed him as a sort of
monster following Danielle and Richard's disappearance. Joe even shared with
Steve how FBI agent Fido Rosselli said as much. According
to Joe, Vito told him, I don't think you did this,
but I think you're involved in some way. But Joe
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told Steve law enforcement was focused on the wrong person.
He said, quote, if you haven't ruled me out, then
you're not good at your job.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm not a mastermind. I have a conscience. They were powerful.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Words from a person. Steve said, you couldn't make heads
or tails out.
Speaker 11 (15:29):
Of I just don't remember there being a lot of
gravitossed him. His affect was pretty flat. He wasn't necessarily
emotional at the times I expected him to be emotional.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There was one point when Joe did get emotional. It
happened when they talked about Joe's son.
Speaker 11 (15:49):
There was something over a little Joe that he cried
about not having Danielle around.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Joe teared up and said his son has suffered the
most because he lost a wonderful person in his life.
He remembers how Joe grabbed a napkin to wipe away
a tear that ran down his cheek.
Speaker 11 (16:04):
Did it seem sincere to me? I don't know. I
expected just more affect or emotion in general. Like there
was a certain numbness that I felt.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Steve said he asked Joe about Richard Patron.
Speaker 11 (16:17):
I was like, you guys got in a heated conversation,
and he was like, we exchanged words.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We exchanged words. That was the extent of it.
Speaker 11 (16:28):
I wanted something big and dramatic. Instead I got a
guy who struck me as a little milk toast.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Nevertheless, Steve moved on to the reason he flew all
the way to South Carolina.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
I asked him the point plank question, did you have
any involvement in your wife's disappearance or what happened to
Danielle and Richard. There was a moment, an electric moment,
when he first looked away, when I thought, the fucker
is giving it up, and I remember this little kind
of like immedient headshake of no, and then meeting my
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eyes and said no.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Steve recalled Joe, saying, there's only one person in the
world that knows I didn't do it, and it's me.
Speaker 11 (17:13):
You know, as I remember it, I wasn't moved necessarily
one way or another like this guy definitely did it
or didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
A few minutes after they went their separate ways, Steve
said his phone started ringing.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It was Joe. He called Steve to thank him for
the opportunity to remember the good times he had with Danielle.
But Joe also shared regrets, like making Danielle quit singing
in the band. I hate to keep using this word,
but it was yet another mind fuck.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
He wasn't the darkest guy in the world. He didn't
present as this glowering villain, but he also didn't present
as this, you know, super sympathetic character either.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's interesting to hear Steve's description because it lines up
almost exactly with how Ben felt after his meeting with
Joe nearly ten years later. Even though Joe didn't want
to talk with us on the record, he hasn't completely
dropped off the grid.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Just recently, he's been calling my mother.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's Danielle's brother John.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
He said he was thinking to Danielle and he brought
up something and he was laughing, and I said, that
was nice. Just tell I'll never call me, you know,
like my mother knows. And I think he's pretty aware
of the fact that we're never going to speak again.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We asked John's mother, Felice, about those phone calls.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He had some health issues many years ago and.
Speaker 12 (18:38):
He called to see how I was.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
That He called quite a few times. It's not where
I talk to him every week, Hey, how are you
doing now?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We don't have that relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
We're very cordial to each other.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Fell said, Even though Danielle is gone, she continues to
respect Danielle's rules.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
When it comes to Joe.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Danielle always always wanted to be respectful of him, no
matter how she felt about him. We were never a
layout to say anything derogatory about him or their situation.
She literally said, that's my son's father, and I don't
ever want him to hear anything, be it a ba
come out of anybody's mail.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
So we never did.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
As for John, he's had a tougher time biting his tongue.
He told us he hasn't spoken to Joe in years,
and he's not mad about it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
My nephew's an adult, so there's really no reason I
have any communication with him.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
A couple times a year, Little Joe comes to visit
John and his family. Those meetings had been coordinated through
John's wife, Jody. And let's talk about little Joe. Little
Joe or Joe Inbo the third is now all grown
up and there's nothing little about him.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's an adult in his twenties who stands over six
feet tall.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
He reminds me so much of Danielle and his mannerisms
and his appearance. But then the time he reminds me
so much of his father, and I cried for him
because he never really knew what it was like to
grow up in a loving home with a mother and
a father.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I know if this was my mother, I would have
at least liked to be asked to participate, even if
the answer was ultimately no. So we made the decision
to reach out to Little Joe, and in April twenty
twenty four text message, Little Joe thanked us for giving
his mom's case exposure, but declined to speak with us
on the record. For Richard Patron's daughter, Angela, she was
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just fourteen years old when she lost her dad.
Speaker 13 (20:40):
When people disappear like that, it's difficult to get into
your finances too, because not dead, you know, if you
don't know if they're dead.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
A lot of things we couldn't really get into.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Richard's Social Security benefits was something Marge tried to get
for her granddaughter Angela, but she hit a roadblock.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Certificate.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
It's like, let's just add insult to injury.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
These are the things and injustices you don't think about
when something like this happens. For Angela, she grew up
with TV reporters camped outside her house pointing cameras and
microphones in her face. Today, she's the mother of a
teenage boy who was around the age Angela was when
Richard went missing, and now she worries about her own
son since her father's story is posted all over the internet.
Speaker 14 (21:30):
I never thought my dad would be on TikTok, but
there are stories of him.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
Did you know that Danielle Imbo and Richard Patrol and
Junior disappeared after leaving a Philadelphia bar in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 14 (21:41):
Like when I'm showing on TikToker YouTube, you see those videos,
but like when it's your life, it's just so surreal.
Speaker 13 (21:47):
Richard was born in Philadelphia and had a daughter from
a previous relationship named Angela, with whom he was very close.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
She knows it's not good for her own mental health,
but said she finds herself falling down the many rabbit holes.
Speaker 14 (22:00):
Sometimes I can't help myself, and then I'm on YouTube
for four hours just watching videos on my dad, and
i just think, like I can't believe that's my dad,
Like that's my life.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Let's go back to the actual night of February fifteenth
of two thousand and five, when this all happened.
Speaker 14 (22:16):
You listen to these stories and some of them have
false information.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Danielle was lasting in traveling with Richard Petroni and his vehicle.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
Unfortunately, on YouTube, it's a lot of people making up videos.
I want to comment on everyone and be like that's
not right, Like that's not correct.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Factual or not.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
She knows all of these videos exist and that one
day her son will find them.
Speaker 14 (22:39):
Sometimes I just think about it. I'm just like, how
is this my fucking life? Like how did that happen? Like,
you know, it's just it's it's crazy that still to
this day there's just no answers. I honestly don't even
really want to know exactly what happened. I just want
someone to sit and jail and rot there the same
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way that we have to sit here and rot and
not know what the hell happened. Just to know that
whoever organized this, whoever played a part in it, now
also loses their family, has to suffer, has to feel
the pain. That would be it for me. I don't
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know if we're ever going to find the evidence that
we need. That's why we need the people that know
something to say something.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
On the last day of February twenty twenty three, FBI
agent Vido Rosselli wrote up what's known as Form three
oh two.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
That's our official and if you document that becomes part
of the case file.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That form was one of many he's filled out since
he took on the case in two thousand and five.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
My office with ken because I had a whole half
of a storeroom with boxes of criminal records of the
individuals I was coming across, you know, background checks and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
All of those boxes and binders make up the case
file about Danielle Mbo and Richard Patron Or if you
asked Veto.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
I called it Operation Anthony, after Saint Anthony.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
How's my mother's suggestion. I think he's the patron saint
of lost causes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anytime I lose something, I also call on Saint Anthony.
It's a simple prayer that goes, Saint Anthony, please come around.
Something is lost and must be found. Why Because Saint
Anthony is the patron saint of lost or stolen things.
And that day, after Vito finished writing his three to
zho two form, he placed it in the Operation Anthony file.
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Then Vito gathered his belongings, left his office at the
FBI and never returned.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
That was my last official act.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Vito didn't quit. He retired, the terms of which apply
to all FBI agents.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
Fifty seven is the maximum age. Makes sense. You're carrying
a gun. You're supposed to.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Be able to make an arrest, to carry yourself, you know,
be able to handle yourself.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
That's probably the reason behind it, and it is what
it is. It's always been that way.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Vito's birthday was circled on the calendar. There was no
escaping it. But before Vito called it a day and
a career at the FBI, he still had to make
a pair of uncomfortable phone calls.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You know, I'd be lying if I said, I'd most
doubt crying. I was so upset.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Danielle's brother, John knew the call from Vito was coming,
but it didn't lessen the sting.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
He told me the reasons why, and I get it.
The only reason why I think this case has been
open as long as it has been is because of Vito.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The family spent the last two decades relying on one man.
But this wasn't the only case Vido worked on over
the last nineteen years.
Speaker 10 (25:59):
You can't spend time on one case. It's just not
a luxury. We have this particular case.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
They gave me a lot of free rein to put
my time in it. But not only my time, you
know all the other folks that I was pulling into
the investigation over the many years. They gave me a
lot of money, a lot of resources, allowed me to
do a lot of creative things with this particular case.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And then there was the phone called to Richard's family,
And for Marge it was doubly tough because she also
looked at Peto like he was part of her family.
Speaker 13 (26:31):
He said, even though he retired, an agent has one
case that they can't let go of. I can't go
of this. I don't care where I go or if
I retire, this will always be my case.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
The families not only had to deal with Vito's retirement,
but also some news about the case.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
The case is in what we call pending inactive status,
which generally means we don't have a hot lead that
we're following up on, and that's why we need the
public to come in and hopefully generate that hot lead
for us. Our tip line is still open, and if
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the office deems that it's a tip that's worthy of
follow up.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
They'll follow it up.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
From Marge, She's still waiting for answers to questions she's
had since two thousand and five.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
I have to believe in God and heaven and use
it in the hands of God. But do I know
what happened to him?
Speaker 9 (27:34):
No?
Speaker 10 (27:35):
I don't I know where he is?
Speaker 13 (27:37):
No? No, am I angry? Am I frustrated that after
all this time, I can't get justice? Yes I am.
I'm seventy five. I want to live to say it. So,
it's just agony for a parent.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
For Veto, it's a different type of agony.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
I'm the guy who couldn't bring them closure.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
You think about it, I'm the guy who every time
I talk to him, I'm talking about a horrible thing.
And I'm the guy who has to tell him that, hey,
you know, there's no rest being made. And then when
it says, hey, not only may I by that guy,
I'm retiring?
Speaker 10 (28:19):
Well, I can't really do anything about it, you know anyway? Yes,
that really sucked, and that was a tough call.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
A new set of eyes took over Operation Anthony following
Beido's retirement.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
In my mind, I've come to a reasonable inclusion on
what didn't happen, what you know potentially did happen.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
Vito keeps telling me knowing it and improving it are two
different things.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
But again, we have closed no doors. You know, everything
is open to review and investigation and continued to review
and continued investigation.
Speaker 14 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 13 (28:54):
Hopefully they'll get that break that they need to prove it.
That's all I'm praying for. Just for just Richard deserved justice,
and so did Danielle.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
In twenty eighteen, a separate set of doors slammed shut.
The Patrons closed their family business, Viking Pastries. It was
the end of the line for the neighborhood staple after
more than sixty years in medical Marijuana Dispensary now operates
out of that space. Today, Big rich continues to.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Battle a myriad of health issues which requires round the
clock medical attention.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He's now in an assisted living facility. That, along with
other reasons, forced another big change for the Patrons. In
the summer of twenty twenty four, Marge Patron moved out
of the house where she raised her family. That meant
she lost the closest thing she ever had to A
memorial for her son.
Speaker 13 (29:51):
I've been with people who've lost their children, but it's
not the same. I'm not saying that I should breathe
more than any other mother, but it's not the same.
You've lost your child, but you knew what happened to them,
you were with them, you said goodbye, you buried that child.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
I had none of that.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't have a place to go to see my son.
Speaker 13 (30:19):
I don't know what happened to him. That's like nothing
you could ever imagine. And the only other person that
knows how I feel is her mother.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Her mother meeting Danielle's mother police, but the two haven't
spoken in nearly twenty years.
Speaker 13 (30:39):
I said what I thought happened, and she was like,
absolutely not, and if you didn't agree with her, that
was it.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
To this day, Marge continues to blame Joe for Danielle
and Richard's disappearance, even though the police have never charged Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He still walk in the streets.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
My son is not My son got the prive. My
granddaughter had to live without her father.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
The bad blood between the families remains as thick as
it was in two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Here's Danielle's brother John.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
A few months ago my friends took me out for drinks.
I walk in and lo and behold who's in the
booth next to me with her girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Christine Christine as In Christine Patrone, Richard's sister, and Danielle's friend.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
It was, without a doubt, the most uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's when a thought ran through John's head.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I just wanted to go up to her and give
her the biggest hug and tell her I love her
and I'm sorry for everything, but or just so far
past that, And if I were her, I wouldn't even
want to consider an apology for me.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
If I learned anything from talking to Danielle and Richard's families,
that bridge between both families is broken beyond repair.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I can't take back the things I've said, and I
won't because I believe them with all of my being.
I'm not going to blame anyone until the FBI tells
me who to blame.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
There's still a fifteen thousand dollars reward for information leading
to an arrest and conviction in this case. Earlier, I
told you about a list of people I wish you
were able to hear from, and on that list were
friends and acquaintances of both victims, two of which spoke
to the media but didn't want to go on the
record with us. And then there's another person who really
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disappointed me. She was with Danielle earlier in that night
before Danielle disappeared. This person said she had done several
interviews in the past and was upset that they never
included her recollection of specific details from that night, specifically
how Danielle had acted. In a lengthy conversation with this person,
she told Ben how Danielle's mood shifted from light and
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easy to on edge. She claimed Danielle was looking over
her shoulder as though she was under threat. We offered
this I witnessed the opportunity to share all those details.
After months of exchanging messages, she agreed to an interview.
On the day of our interview, she told Ben she
was scared. There's a lot of fear that surrounds this case,
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fear and loyalty. I think one of the biggest things
that I related to from the medium Jonathan Mark was
he goes, it's.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Like everyone's protecting their circle.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's just very clear that there are networks of people
protecting their own.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Whether you want to be a skeptic or not. It
rings true to me that this is not just one
person pulling this off or one just group of criminals
that got lucky. Even when he uses the line the
stars aligned for them, not. This is a sophisticated network
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to keep this case down and keep burying so that
it doesn't see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
That's what I imagine.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Vito is running into people that are protecting their own
even if their own is responsible for murdering to it
is in people. This extends past rebel floor. I mean,
let's talk about Robert Carey, the alleged hitman. I pounded
the pavement in Fishtown. I've talked to people who feel
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certain that he was involved. Like Steve Volk.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Said, in Fishtown, this case is closed, like this.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Is barroom conversation. Who talks about a murder so openly
like that? But this neighborhood does. But no one except
for one person, was willing to go on the record.
And it wasn't necessarily because they were in fear for
their life. It was they respected Robert Carey's family and
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they felt if they went on the record, they would
be identifiable.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Someone would know me by context. Clues. That's how tight
these neighborhoods are, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
One of my sources said about Robert Carey, it was
like a well known fact that he made known. If
I get arrested, I'm calling it. It was kind of
like this Laura in the neighborhood. I'm never going to
do a day in jail. And he didn't do time.
The same day he was arrested for his prescription scheme,
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he did call it. As you may remember, Robert Carrey
was found on the floor of his jail cell in
twenty ten with a shoelace around his neck. We learned
that for several years, Carrie had a defense lawyer named
Scott to Claudio. In twenty fifteen, despite receiving a not
recommended rating from the Bar Association, Scott to Claudio was
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elected to the bench. Today, he continues to be a
sitting judge in Philadelphia. Vido once told me that when
investigating a crime, he never believed in coincidences. That was
until he started working on this case. And I got
to tell you, there are a lot of coincidences when
looking into the details. One we recently came across earlier
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in this episode, I shared with you that Rob Lafloor
and strip club bouncer John Pettitt were charged with third
degree murder of Jimmy coons Well. The strange circumstances around
John Pettitt's case is that since twenty nineteen, John Pettitt
has been petitioning the court for post conviction relief, essentially
to get his conviction thrown out. This has been in
the courtroom for over five years now, and when we
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dug into those records, it got a bit more suspicious.
We learned that the judge presiding over John Pettitt's post
conviction relief proceedings was none other than Robert Carey's former
attorney Scott to Claudio.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
There are a lot of coincidences in this case.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Where do all of.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
These coincidences leave us? For me personally, it leaves me heartbroken.
For the families, I'm scared that my city can hold
such deep secrets, but hopeful that someone will be brave
enough to come forward and break their silence. In the meantime,
the families continue to wait.
Speaker 12 (37:01):
One time, somebody is my son, what would you do
if your sister walked through that door? And I remember
he said I would hug her and never let her go.
You need to just pull one little thread and the
whole thing can unravel.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
What you think is.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Unimportant, maybe the most important thing in your life. We
want to know the why and the who.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
She has a son who deserves more than I deserve it.
Speaker 12 (37:37):
She has a son who deserves to know what happened
to his mother.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
John and JODI's son, Dominic, doesn't remember his aunt Danielle,
but he lives in the wake her loss left behind.
Speaker 15 (37:50):
Growing up, Dad didn't get too emotional in front of us,
So to listen to a little bit of the podcast
and see him get emotional, it made me kind of
realized how much he's been just thrown under the carpet
for a while. And the house across the street was
for sale at the time when they were looking.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
At that house, he means Danielle and Joe I, guys, remember.
Speaker 15 (38:14):
My mom told me that, and me really thinking about
what life would be like if they lived right across
the street, how often they'd come over, and the difference
in the relationship I'd have with my cousin.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
One night a few months back, I couldn't sleep. I
was thinking about Danielle and Richard. The patrons and the atobreys,
and I just couldn't shake this bigger.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Question, what is it to be alive?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I used to think it was in the big moments,
in milestones, but more and more it's in the small,
like the rubbing of your tired feet under warm blankets
after a long day, bathing your two year old baby,
trying to braid your daughter's pigtails, drinking a beer while
listening to Bruce Springsteen, Sweating into your microphone as you
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sing alongside your band on a hot summer night, placing
your bets before the football game, calling your mom to
ask what time to be there for Sunday dinner, icing
a birthday cake, calling your brother on his way home
from work.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And then I thought, what is it to be missing?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Those simple moments become memories, a shadow forever, following the
people you touch, heavily casting down.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
In the big moments. You become an open.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Chair at the Christmas table, a face and a frame
at the reception. Instead of walking your daughter down the aisle,
you become a milestone. Five years gone, ten years gone,
nineteen years gone, twenty you become a ghost, an empty
guest bedroom with a gift waiting.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
For your return, you become a hollow ache.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I want nothing more than justice for Richard and Danielle
and their families, and I truly hope if someone listening
knows something, please reach out.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Hollo tennas, I say you in that dream, reached out
in the dog.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
For you've been lost to me. I'll never give up
no matter Holla.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I open my.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Define god.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Itch corner.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Listen the bus o peace, I follow the clues, looking
fo the key hole. Give up no matter, Hana. I
ope my to find that your gone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If you have any information about the disappearance of Danielle
Limbo and Richard Petrone, please call the Citizens Crime Commission
tip line at two one five five four six eight
four seven seven, or contact the Thereon Gone team at
therengnepod at gmail dot com. That's Therein Gone pod at
gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Be sure to follow the show on Apple Podcasts so
you'll be the first to learn if there are developments
on this case.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
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show is executive produced by Nancy Glass and Ben Fetterman.
It's hosted and written by me Andrea Gunning, with additional
reporting and writing by Ben Fetterman. The series is also
written and produced by Todd Ghans. Our associate producer is
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Speaker 3 (42:50):
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Speaker 1 (42:51):
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About a week after Danielle Imbo and Richard Patrone vanished,
Danielle's mother was at home watching Danielle's infant Sonne.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It was a Sunday when I had little Joe here
and they had set that downce to yourself was like
a big giant playrun.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
With toys scattered all over. Little Joe was playing with
his two cousins. It was all therapeutic for Felice, who
sat on a nearby couch desperately trying to keep her
mind occupied.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But then the voices of the children went silent.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's when Felice looked over and noticed little Joe, and
he kind of.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Like stopped in the middle of them playing, And all
of a sudden, little Joe looked up and he whispered, mommy.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Felice believes little Joe saw his mother that day.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That was unreal. Just looked up and whispered, mommy.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Therein Gone South Street
Episode ten, Saint Anthony.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Holladay is I say you in that dream? Reached out
on the dog for you, f and last to me,
I'll never give up.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
No matter how long I open my eyes. Define Gone.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Just to Note that the views and opinions expressed in
this podcast are solely those of the individuals participating. This
podcast also contains subject matter which may not be suitable
for everyone. Discretion is advised. I'm going to pull back
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the curtain a little bit. When a colleague of mine
first pitched doing a podcast about Danielle and Richard's mysterious disappearance,
I knew.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It would be an uphill climb.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Number One, the case has gone unsolved for nearly twenty years.
With all due respect, what could two Philly podcasters possibly
do that the FBI and four other law enforcement agencies
couldn't At the very least. I'm proud to say that
we've put the story back out there and in the
process rattled a few cages.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Number Two.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
People want to walk away satisfied, so a story without
an ending is usually a tough sell. Number Three, there
are a lot of things I wish I could have
reported on. There are also a lot of people I
wish you could have heard from. For legal reasons and
a host of other reasons, we couldn't share a lot
of stuff we uncovered. I'll explain more about that later
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in this episode.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
In episode nine, you heard from Jonathan Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He's the medium who has helped on some high profile
cases with the NYPD and FBI. I will say that
my colleague Ben and I wrestled with how to use
the information Jonathan provided. We didn't know how Danielle and
Richard's families would feel about it, and we knew there
would be a lot of skeptical people who'd hear it
and call it bullshit, and I completely get it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Thankfully, both families have kept an open mind.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
As for the rest of you, I will say this,
but drove us to seek out Jonathan was similar to
something Danielle's brother John said earlier in this series.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
It's like you're literally standing in the middle of a
snow covered field and there's not a footprint in any direction,
and you've got to figure out which way to go.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We needed direction, and even though Ben and I walked
into the session with a bit of skepticism, that all
evaporated once Jonathan started.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
This case must be gone on for like twenty years
or something. It happened outside a bar. There's a car
that's like gone too, whether it's a car or a minivan,
or a truck or something.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Jonathan even nailed some key details about what was happening
in Danielle in Richard's lives at the time.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
They both have two separate families, like kids and everything
with other partners. Danielle was cond alluding to like a
jealousy factor that revolves around her.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He even shared some phrases we've heard from our interviews
with the FBI.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
It's like wrong place, wrong time type of thing. You
ever hear a hit man or someone that's like a
paid killer.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Then Jonathan said the one word we had never come
across in this investigation.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
The corruption will lead to the answer to their passing.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Twenty one times during our session, Jonathan said the word corruption.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
And like typically when they repeat something over and over
and over again, like that's where they want these people
to dive into.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
First.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hearing that from Jonathan gave me and Ben a new
and final direction to investigate, and that's a big reason
why we decided to share that audio with you. Corruption
can me and a lot of things. It was an
area Ben dug into and it started at the Junkyard.
We spent a lot of time talking about Gianna Salvage.
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If you remember back in two thousand and five, Gianna's
was the only junkyard in Philly with an industrial crusher.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's rumored to be where Richard's truck ended up.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Although gianna Is closed years ago, Ben spent a good
amount of time digging into its owner, Rob lafloor.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
I came across this story trying to learn more about
Rob Lafleur. But what Vito shared when we interviewed him
was that Rob was dealing with two other issues around
the time of his death.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
He was a criminal subject of a separate FBI investigation
that had to deal with his strip joint club Oasis.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The FBI investigated Rob as part of an alleged kickback
scheme that involved the Philadelphia Police Department and the Philadelphia
Department of Licenses and Inspections, or as we call.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It locally, L and I. There was also a separate investigation.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
The other was a homicide that occurred outside of his bar.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That homicide happened in the parking lot of Rob Laflora's
strip club back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Here's veto again.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
There was a couple of irregulars that were showing up.
There was some dispute inside.
Speaker 9 (06:34):
Security led the people out and it kind of escalated
from there. Outside of Club Oasis, one of the patrons
winds up getting struck by the security manager and falling
and hitting his head and ultimately dying.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The victim who died was Jimmy Coons. He had gone
to Oasis to watch a Phillies playoff game with his friend,
but was thrown out of the club and wound up
dead on the pavement of the Oasis parking lot.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Doing homicide investigation wound up charging Rob Laflor and a
couple of others.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Three people, including Rob Lafloor, were initially charged with third
degree murder of Jimmy Coons.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
I spoke to the mother of Jimmy's children, I spoke
to his sister, and I spoke to the man that
was with Jimmy that night. His sister was the only
person willing to go on the record. She spoke at
length about that crime. And the one thing that stuck
with me around this whole topic is that the police
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covered Jimmy's death up, or at least attempted to. I
think the implication was Oasis, Rob and his associates had
a number to call if they had a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Listen to what's in the court transcripts of his case.
Following the incident in the parking lot, the Oasis bouncer
did not call nine to one one. Instead, he directly
called a philliped sergeant multiple times. That sergeant and his
partner later arrived on the scene. That sergeant also dispatched
two other officers, including an officer assigned to the canine unit.
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Seems odd to send the canine unit to a case
like this, right.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Two different sets of police showed up that night.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The two guys who got kicked out of Oasis also
dialed nine one one, so another set of cops showed
up on the scene.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Initially, Jimmy and his friend were seen as the suspects,
not as the victims.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Here's what one of the cops testified.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He said, Rob laflor was at the gym when he
got a call from his employees alerting him that two
patrons at Oasis were causing a disturbance, so Laflora drove
to Oasis. Laflora told the cops that once he arrived,
the two patrons tried to steal his Rolex watch and
started fighting with him in the parking lot. When the
police questioned la floor. About the security cameras at Oasis,
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Laflora said the cameras weren't working.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That was a lie. The police later.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Found out someone had simply disconnected the security system's computer monitor.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
The victim's sister went on to explain that the only
way she got justice for her brother was because eventually
these tapes and hard drives and footage were recovered and
played in court. Where were they recovered Gianna's junkyard.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's the same junk yard where Richard's truck was rumored
to have been crushed in two thousand and five. You
can't make this shit up.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
So this is a Delco Times article from February twenty ten.
Club owner Robert Lafleur and bouncer John Pettif are facing
trial for the murder in the death of James Coons.
They were among six defendants who appeared in court.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The murder trial started October fifteenth, twenty twelve, three years
after the death of James Coons. Before he would ever
see his day in cour court, rob Laflora died January
twenty twelve of an overdose.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
The cause of death, overdose by heroin, was unbelievable to
people close to Rob, he was not a heroin user.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
However, a January twenty nineteen Philadelphia Inquire article stated acquaintances
said that Lafleur had struggled with substance abuse for years
and recently spent time in a drug rehab in Malibu, California.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
The people I spoke with also spent a lot of
time asking why no one ever investigated Rob Laflor's death.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That left prosecutors with John aka Jack Pettitt, the bouncer
of Oasis, who was the other person charged with Jimmy
Coon's death. After a mistrial in years of delays, Pettit
ultimately was found guilty of third degree murder in twenty sixteen.
He got seven and a half to fifteen years, but
by April twenty twenty four, Pettit was released from prison.
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My team was able to speak with him briefly, but
he declined to speak on the record. Here's where the
story gets even more bizarre. Another defendant from the Oasis
parking lot death was a woman named Stacy Schoenberger. She
was charged with conspiracy to hinder prosecution, but a judge
throughout those charges, citing a lack of evidence and that
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wasn't the first time Ben and I heard the name
Stacy Schoenberger. Let's go back to two thousand and five,
right after Danielle and Richard disappeared. That's when both families
put up websites with news about the investigation. Richard's site
also had a message board. When we first started researching
this project, one of the things I had my team
do was log every post on Richard's message board. Having
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the names and words of those who posted at the
time felt significant, and it was the reason Ben and
I heard the name Stacy Schoenberger was because Stacy's name
appears among the hundreds of posts on that website with
the exact spelling Stacy with an eye. The post was
published just over a month after Richard and Danielle disappeared.
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It's still up on the website today. Here's what it said.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
It's a post from March twenty second, two thousand and five.
I am so sorry to hear about this. I pray
for your families every night. I have sent this to
every contact in my address book. I think she meant
my address book. The post continues, keep up the faith.
My prayers are with you.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did the patrons know who Stacy Schoenberger is.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
I asked the patron family if that was a family
friend or anyone they were related to, and the answer
was no.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean, like a lot of people wrote on this
memorial page, but that feels like a really odd coincidence.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
You want to hear a worse coincidence. Stacy's father worked
at Gianna's junkyard, James C. Schoenberger. His obituary says he
was a supervisor with the Gianna Salvage company.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
James Schoenberger died in twenty thirteen. On his legacy dot
com obituary, He's even photographed wearing a jacket with the
Gianna's logo on it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Ben contacted Stacy.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Schoenberger to verify that she posted on Richard's memorial page,
but Stacy did not want to go on the record
with us. Stacy Schoenberger refused to speak with us on
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the record. But she is just one person I wish
you could have heard from, And of course Danielle's estranged husband,
Joe Imbo, is at the top.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Earlier in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Four, Ben met up with Joe in person, but their
conversation was off the record, so we can't share what
he said in that meeting. But ten years earlier, Joe
had to sit down interview with journalist Steve Volk.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
I remember I got a yes when I expected to
know to interview him.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Back in twenty fourteen, Steve was writing an article about
Danielle and Richard for Philadelphia Magazine.
Speaker 11 (14:19):
I don't remember having to do any or much handholding
or talking before the fact. He pretty readily agreed.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The two met for breakfast at a cafe just outside
of Charleston.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
I had come in, though, with my constitutionally protected First
Amendment opinion, thinking it likely that he knew something because
there was so much attention paid to him, in particular
from the patrons.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Steve had his suspicions, and Joe understood. He said he
was aware that people viewed him as a sort of
monster following Danielle and Richard's disappearance. Joe even shared with
Steve how FBI agent Fido Rosselli said as much. According
to Joe, Vito told him, I don't think you did this,
but I think you're involved in some way. But Joe
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told Steve law enforcement was focused on the wrong person.
He said, quote, if you haven't ruled me out, then
you're not good at your job.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm not a mastermind. I have a conscience. They were powerful.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Words from a person. Steve said, you couldn't make heads
or tails out.
Speaker 11 (15:29):
Of I just don't remember there being a lot of
gravitossed him. His affect was pretty flat. He wasn't necessarily
emotional at the times I expected him to be emotional.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There was one point when Joe did get emotional. It
happened when they talked about Joe's son.
Speaker 11 (15:49):
There was something over a little Joe that he cried
about not having Danielle around.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Joe teared up and said his son has suffered the
most because he lost a wonderful person in his life.
He remembers how Joe grabbed a napkin to wipe away
a tear that ran down his cheek.
Speaker 11 (16:04):
Did it seem sincere to me? I don't know. I
expected just more affect or emotion in general. Like there
was a certain numbness that I felt.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Steve said he asked Joe about Richard Patron.
Speaker 11 (16:17):
I was like, you guys got in a heated conversation,
and he was like, we exchanged words.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We exchanged words. That was the extent of it.
Speaker 11 (16:28):
I wanted something big and dramatic. Instead I got a
guy who struck me as a little milk toast.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Nevertheless, Steve moved on to the reason he flew all
the way to South Carolina.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
I asked him the point plank question, did you have
any involvement in your wife's disappearance or what happened to
Danielle and Richard. There was a moment, an electric moment,
when he first looked away, when I thought, the fucker
is giving it up, and I remember this little kind
of like immedient headshake of no, and then meeting my
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eyes and said no.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Steve recalled Joe, saying, there's only one person in the
world that knows I didn't do it, and it's me.
Speaker 11 (17:13):
You know, as I remember it, I wasn't moved necessarily
one way or another like this guy definitely did it
or didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
A few minutes after they went their separate ways, Steve
said his phone started ringing.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It was Joe. He called Steve to thank him for
the opportunity to remember the good times he had with Danielle.
But Joe also shared regrets, like making Danielle quit singing
in the band. I hate to keep using this word,
but it was yet another mind fuck.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
He wasn't the darkest guy in the world. He didn't
present as this glowering villain, but he also didn't present
as this, you know, super sympathetic character either.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's interesting to hear Steve's description because it lines up
almost exactly with how Ben felt after his meeting with
Joe nearly ten years later. Even though Joe didn't want
to talk with us on the record, he hasn't completely
dropped off the grid.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Just recently, he's been calling my mother.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's Danielle's brother John.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
He said he was thinking to Danielle and he brought
up something and he was laughing, and I said, that
was nice. Just tell I'll never call me, you know,
like my mother knows. And I think he's pretty aware
of the fact that we're never going to speak again.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We asked John's mother, Felice, about those phone calls.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He had some health issues many years ago and.
Speaker 12 (18:38):
He called to see how I was.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
That He called quite a few times. It's not where
I talk to him every week, Hey, how are you
doing now?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We don't have that relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
We're very cordial to each other.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Fell said, Even though Danielle is gone, she continues to
respect Danielle's rules.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
When it comes to Joe.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Danielle always always wanted to be respectful of him, no
matter how she felt about him. We were never a
layout to say anything derogatory about him or their situation.
She literally said, that's my son's father, and I don't
ever want him to hear anything, be it a ba
come out of anybody's mail.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
So we never did.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
As for John, he's had a tougher time biting his tongue.
He told us he hasn't spoken to Joe in years,
and he's not mad about it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
My nephew's an adult, so there's really no reason I
have any communication with him.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
A couple times a year, Little Joe comes to visit
John and his family. Those meetings had been coordinated through
John's wife, Jody. And let's talk about little Joe. Little
Joe or Joe Inbo the third is now all grown
up and there's nothing little about him.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's an adult in his twenties who stands over six
feet tall.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
He reminds me so much of Danielle and his mannerisms
and his appearance. But then the time he reminds me
so much of his father, and I cried for him
because he never really knew what it was like to
grow up in a loving home with a mother and
a father.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I know if this was my mother, I would have
at least liked to be asked to participate, even if
the answer was ultimately no. So we made the decision
to reach out to Little Joe, and in April twenty
twenty four text message, Little Joe thanked us for giving
his mom's case exposure, but declined to speak with us
on the record. For Richard Patron's daughter, Angela, she was
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just fourteen years old when she lost her dad.
Speaker 13 (20:40):
When people disappear like that, it's difficult to get into
your finances too, because not dead, you know, if you
don't know if they're dead.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
A lot of things we couldn't really get into.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Richard's Social Security benefits was something Marge tried to get
for her granddaughter Angela, but she hit a roadblock.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Certificate.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
It's like, let's just add insult to injury.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
These are the things and injustices you don't think about
when something like this happens. For Angela, she grew up
with TV reporters camped outside her house pointing cameras and
microphones in her face. Today, she's the mother of a
teenage boy who was around the age Angela was when
Richard went missing, and now she worries about her own
son since her father's story is posted all over the internet.
Speaker 14 (21:30):
I never thought my dad would be on TikTok, but
there are stories of him.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
Did you know that Danielle Imbo and Richard Patrol and
Junior disappeared after leaving a Philadelphia bar in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 14 (21:41):
Like when I'm showing on TikToker YouTube, you see those videos,
but like when it's your life, it's just so surreal.
Speaker 13 (21:47):
Richard was born in Philadelphia and had a daughter from
a previous relationship named Angela, with whom he was very close.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
She knows it's not good for her own mental health,
but said she finds herself falling down the many rabbit holes.
Speaker 14 (22:00):
Sometimes I can't help myself, and then I'm on YouTube
for four hours just watching videos on my dad, and
i just think, like I can't believe that's my dad,
Like that's my life.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Let's go back to the actual night of February fifteenth
of two thousand and five, when this all happened.
Speaker 14 (22:16):
You listen to these stories and some of them have
false information.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Danielle was lasting in traveling with Richard Petroni and his vehicle.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
Unfortunately, on YouTube, it's a lot of people making up videos.
I want to comment on everyone and be like that's
not right, Like that's not correct.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Factual or not.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
She knows all of these videos exist and that one
day her son will find them.
Speaker 14 (22:39):
Sometimes I just think about it. I'm just like, how
is this my fucking life? Like how did that happen? Like,
you know, it's just it's it's crazy that still to
this day there's just no answers. I honestly don't even
really want to know exactly what happened. I just want
someone to sit and jail and rot there the same
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way that we have to sit here and rot and
not know what the hell happened. Just to know that
whoever organized this, whoever played a part in it, now
also loses their family, has to suffer, has to feel
the pain. That would be it for me. I don't
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know if we're ever going to find the evidence that
we need. That's why we need the people that know
something to say something.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
On the last day of February twenty twenty three, FBI
agent Vido Rosselli wrote up what's known as Form three
oh two.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
That's our official and if you document that becomes part
of the case file.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That form was one of many he's filled out since
he took on the case in two thousand and five.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
My office with ken because I had a whole half
of a storeroom with boxes of criminal records of the
individuals I was coming across, you know, background checks and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
All of those boxes and binders make up the case
file about Danielle Mbo and Richard Patron Or if you
asked Veto.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
I called it Operation Anthony, after Saint Anthony.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
How's my mother's suggestion. I think he's the patron saint
of lost causes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anytime I lose something, I also call on Saint Anthony.
It's a simple prayer that goes, Saint Anthony, please come around.
Something is lost and must be found. Why Because Saint
Anthony is the patron saint of lost or stolen things.
And that day, after Vito finished writing his three to
zho two form, he placed it in the Operation Anthony file.
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Then Vito gathered his belongings, left his office at the
FBI and never returned.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
That was my last official act.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Vito didn't quit. He retired, the terms of which apply
to all FBI agents.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
Fifty seven is the maximum age. Makes sense. You're carrying
a gun. You're supposed to.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Be able to make an arrest, to carry yourself, you know,
be able to handle yourself.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
That's probably the reason behind it, and it is what
it is. It's always been that way.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Vito's birthday was circled on the calendar. There was no
escaping it. But before Vito called it a day and
a career at the FBI, he still had to make
a pair of uncomfortable phone calls.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You know, I'd be lying if I said, I'd most
doubt crying. I was so upset.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Danielle's brother, John knew the call from Vito was coming,
but it didn't lessen the sting.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
He told me the reasons why, and I get it.
The only reason why I think this case has been
open as long as it has been is because of Vito.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The family spent the last two decades relying on one man.
But this wasn't the only case Vido worked on over
the last nineteen years.
Speaker 10 (25:59):
You can't spend time on one case. It's just not
a luxury. We have this particular case.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
They gave me a lot of free rein to put
my time in it. But not only my time, you
know all the other folks that I was pulling into
the investigation over the many years. They gave me a
lot of money, a lot of resources, allowed me to
do a lot of creative things with this particular case.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And then there was the phone called to Richard's family,
And for Marge it was doubly tough because she also
looked at Peto like he was part of her family.
Speaker 13 (26:31):
He said, even though he retired, an agent has one
case that they can't let go of. I can't go
of this. I don't care where I go or if
I retire, this will always be my case.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
The families not only had to deal with Vito's retirement,
but also some news about the case.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
The case is in what we call pending inactive status,
which generally means we don't have a hot lead that
we're following up on, and that's why we need the
public to come in and hopefully generate that hot lead
for us. Our tip line is still open, and if
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the office deems that it's a tip that's worthy of
follow up.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
They'll follow it up.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
From Marge, She's still waiting for answers to questions she's
had since two thousand and five.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
I have to believe in God and heaven and use
it in the hands of God. But do I know
what happened to him?
Speaker 9 (27:34):
No?
Speaker 10 (27:35):
I don't I know where he is?
Speaker 13 (27:37):
No? No, am I angry? Am I frustrated that after
all this time, I can't get justice? Yes I am.
I'm seventy five. I want to live to say it. So,
it's just agony for a parent.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
For Veto, it's a different type of agony.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
I'm the guy who couldn't bring them closure.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
You think about it, I'm the guy who every time
I talk to him, I'm talking about a horrible thing.
And I'm the guy who has to tell him that, hey,
you know, there's no rest being made. And then when
it says, hey, not only may I by that guy,
I'm retiring?
Speaker 10 (28:19):
Well, I can't really do anything about it, you know anyway? Yes,
that really sucked, and that was a tough call.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
A new set of eyes took over Operation Anthony following
Beido's retirement.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
In my mind, I've come to a reasonable inclusion on
what didn't happen, what you know potentially did happen.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
Vito keeps telling me knowing it and improving it are two
different things.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
But again, we have closed no doors. You know, everything
is open to review and investigation and continued to review
and continued investigation.
Speaker 14 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 13 (28:54):
Hopefully they'll get that break that they need to prove it.
That's all I'm praying for. Just for just Richard deserved justice,
and so did Danielle.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
In twenty eighteen, a separate set of doors slammed shut.
The Patrons closed their family business, Viking Pastries. It was
the end of the line for the neighborhood staple after
more than sixty years in medical Marijuana Dispensary now operates
out of that space. Today, Big rich continues to.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Battle a myriad of health issues which requires round the
clock medical attention.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He's now in an assisted living facility. That, along with
other reasons, forced another big change for the Patrons. In
the summer of twenty twenty four, Marge Patron moved out
of the house where she raised her family. That meant
she lost the closest thing she ever had to A
memorial for her son.
Speaker 13 (29:51):
I've been with people who've lost their children, but it's
not the same. I'm not saying that I should breathe
more than any other mother, but it's not the same.
You've lost your child, but you knew what happened to them,
you were with them, you said goodbye, you buried that child.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
I had none of that.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't have a place to go to see my son.
Speaker 13 (30:19):
I don't know what happened to him. That's like nothing
you could ever imagine. And the only other person that
knows how I feel is her mother.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Her mother meeting Danielle's mother police, but the two haven't
spoken in nearly twenty years.
Speaker 13 (30:39):
I said what I thought happened, and she was like,
absolutely not, and if you didn't agree with her, that
was it.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
To this day, Marge continues to blame Joe for Danielle
and Richard's disappearance, even though the police have never charged Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He still walk in the streets.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
My son is not My son got the prive. My
granddaughter had to live without her father.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
The bad blood between the families remains as thick as
it was in two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Here's Danielle's brother John.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
A few months ago my friends took me out for drinks.
I walk in and lo and behold who's in the
booth next to me with her girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Christine Christine as In Christine Patrone, Richard's sister, and Danielle's friend.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
It was, without a doubt, the most uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's when a thought ran through John's head.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I just wanted to go up to her and give
her the biggest hug and tell her I love her
and I'm sorry for everything, but or just so far
past that, And if I were her, I wouldn't even
want to consider an apology for me.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
If I learned anything from talking to Danielle and Richard's families,
that bridge between both families is broken beyond repair.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I can't take back the things I've said, and I
won't because I believe them with all of my being.
I'm not going to blame anyone until the FBI tells
me who to blame.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
There's still a fifteen thousand dollars reward for information leading
to an arrest and conviction in this case. Earlier, I
told you about a list of people I wish you
were able to hear from, and on that list were
friends and acquaintances of both victims, two of which spoke
to the media but didn't want to go on the
record with us. And then there's another person who really
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disappointed me. She was with Danielle earlier in that night
before Danielle disappeared. This person said she had done several
interviews in the past and was upset that they never
included her recollection of specific details from that night, specifically
how Danielle had acted. In a lengthy conversation with this person,
she told Ben how Danielle's mood shifted from light and
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easy to on edge. She claimed Danielle was looking over
her shoulder as though she was under threat. We offered
this I witnessed the opportunity to share all those details.
After months of exchanging messages, she agreed to an interview.
On the day of our interview, she told Ben she
was scared. There's a lot of fear that surrounds this case,
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fear and loyalty. I think one of the biggest things
that I related to from the medium Jonathan Mark was
he goes, it's.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Like everyone's protecting their circle.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's just very clear that there are networks of people
protecting their own.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Whether you want to be a skeptic or not. It
rings true to me that this is not just one
person pulling this off or one just group of criminals
that got lucky. Even when he uses the line the
stars aligned for them, not. This is a sophisticated network
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to keep this case down and keep burying so that
it doesn't see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
That's what I imagine.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Vito is running into people that are protecting their own
even if their own is responsible for murdering to it
is in people. This extends past rebel floor. I mean,
let's talk about Robert Carey, the alleged hitman. I pounded
the pavement in Fishtown. I've talked to people who feel
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certain that he was involved. Like Steve Volk.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Said, in Fishtown, this case is closed, like this.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Is barroom conversation. Who talks about a murder so openly
like that? But this neighborhood does. But no one except
for one person, was willing to go on the record.
And it wasn't necessarily because they were in fear for
their life. It was they respected Robert Carey's family and
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they felt if they went on the record, they would
be identifiable.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Someone would know me by context. Clues. That's how tight
these neighborhoods are, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
One of my sources said about Robert Carey, it was
like a well known fact that he made known. If
I get arrested, I'm calling it. It was kind of
like this Laura in the neighborhood. I'm never going to
do a day in jail. And he didn't do time.
The same day he was arrested for his prescription scheme,
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he did call it. As you may remember, Robert Carrey
was found on the floor of his jail cell in
twenty ten with a shoelace around his neck. We learned
that for several years, Carrie had a defense lawyer named
Scott to Claudio. In twenty fifteen, despite receiving a not
recommended rating from the Bar Association, Scott to Claudio was
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elected to the bench. Today, he continues to be a
sitting judge in Philadelphia. Vido once told me that when
investigating a crime, he never believed in coincidences. That was
until he started working on this case. And I got
to tell you, there are a lot of coincidences when
looking into the details. One we recently came across earlier
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in this episode, I shared with you that Rob Lafloor
and strip club bouncer John Pettitt were charged with third
degree murder of Jimmy coons Well. The strange circumstances around
John Pettitt's case is that since twenty nineteen, John Pettitt
has been petitioning the court for post conviction relief, essentially
to get his conviction thrown out. This has been in
the courtroom for over five years now, and when we
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dug into those records, it got a bit more suspicious.
We learned that the judge presiding over John Pettitt's post
conviction relief proceedings was none other than Robert Carey's former
attorney Scott to Claudio.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
There are a lot of coincidences in this case.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Where do all of.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
These coincidences leave us? For me personally, it leaves me heartbroken.
For the families, I'm scared that my city can hold
such deep secrets, but hopeful that someone will be brave
enough to come forward and break their silence. In the meantime,
the families continue to wait.
Speaker 12 (37:01):
One time, somebody is my son, what would you do
if your sister walked through that door? And I remember
he said I would hug her and never let her go.
You need to just pull one little thread and the
whole thing can unravel.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
What you think is.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Unimportant, maybe the most important thing in your life. We
want to know the why and the who.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
She has a son who deserves more than I deserve it.
Speaker 12 (37:37):
She has a son who deserves to know what happened
to his mother.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
John and JODI's son, Dominic, doesn't remember his aunt Danielle,
but he lives in the wake her loss left behind.
Speaker 15 (37:50):
Growing up, Dad didn't get too emotional in front of us,
So to listen to a little bit of the podcast
and see him get emotional, it made me kind of
realized how much he's been just thrown under the carpet
for a while. And the house across the street was
for sale at the time when they were looking.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
At that house, he means Danielle and Joe I, guys, remember.
Speaker 15 (38:14):
My mom told me that, and me really thinking about
what life would be like if they lived right across
the street, how often they'd come over, and the difference
in the relationship I'd have with my cousin.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
One night a few months back, I couldn't sleep. I
was thinking about Danielle and Richard. The patrons and the atobreys,
and I just couldn't shake this bigger.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Question, what is it to be alive?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I used to think it was in the big moments,
in milestones, but more and more it's in the small,
like the rubbing of your tired feet under warm blankets
after a long day, bathing your two year old baby,
trying to braid your daughter's pigtails, drinking a beer while
listening to Bruce Springsteen, Sweating into your microphone as you
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sing alongside your band on a hot summer night, placing
your bets before the football game, calling your mom to
ask what time to be there for Sunday dinner, icing
a birthday cake, calling your brother on his way home
from work.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And then I thought, what is it to be missing?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Those simple moments become memories, a shadow forever, following the
people you touch, heavily casting down.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
In the big moments. You become an open.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Chair at the Christmas table, a face and a frame
at the reception. Instead of walking your daughter down the aisle,
you become a milestone. Five years gone, ten years gone,
nineteen years gone, twenty you become a ghost, an empty
guest bedroom with a gift waiting.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
For your return, you become a hollow ache.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I want nothing more than justice for Richard and Danielle
and their families, and I truly hope if someone listening
knows something, please reach out.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Hollo tennas, I say you in that dream, reached out
in the dog.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
For you've been lost to me. I'll never give up
no matter Holla.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I open my.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Define god.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Itch corner.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Listen the bus o peace, I follow the clues, looking
fo the key hole. Give up no matter, Hana. I
ope my to find that your gone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
If you have any information about the disappearance of Danielle
Limbo and Richard Petrone, please call the Citizens Crime Commission
tip line at two one five five four six eight
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