July 23, 2024 • 45 mins
Daniel sweet talks the former proprietor of his favorite cookie shop, LA’s dearly departed Milk Jar.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Go through your top five favorite cookie flavors that came
from your store.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I think if I had to choose one forever and
I could only ever have it, it'd be chocolate chip walnut.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hate nuts, hate like nuts, but not in the dessert nuts.
And for one, I'm like on a trail. And even then,
I'm just eating the m and lashasha sho. It's Tuesday,
(00:34):
the second day of the week. As we all know,
on the second day, God created the sky. I on
this second day put forth a new episode, and it
was good man, welcome to Tosh Show. Huh, that's how
(00:56):
you get it started, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It is how you get started. A little blessing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let people know where we came from. We came from
the bottom. Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yep, right, they were there at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Who made you?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was God?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What else did God make all things?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Things that were around us?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You never were forced to memorize the shorter Catechism? Nope?
Oh boy, well, I'm in a sour mood. I know
we're gonna get some feedback from the audience.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Feedback, but here we got's hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Hold on, I'm not ready. I gotta mentally prepare for feedback.
From our viewers and our listeners, subscribers, some.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of our fans. Are they subscribing? Not at record pace.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm told if we don't get our subscriber numbers up,
that means they stay the same. I'd like our subscriber
numbers to go down. I'd like people to unsubscribe. See
if we can get that number back to zero.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Be sure to unsubscribe.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I want to see if we can get our show
up to five million subscribers, and then I want to
do the show and take it down to zero.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know if it's possible.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know if anybody's ever accomplished that, got five
million subscribers and then got it back down to zero,
just through good old fashioned hate.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Speaking of vitriol, let's hear from our fans.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Here we go. I hate you, Daniel Tosh. How dare
you advertise in the middle of the podcast?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I feel you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know my goal for this podcast, I've said this
since day one, has always been to create a place
for advertisers and consumers to just vibe.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Next one, Tash's kid loves telling stories about Lake Tahoe.
It's a total flex and he doesn't even know it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Now he knows it. Once someone asked my son in
the jacuzzi. We were sitting in a jacuzzi, a public jacuzi.
It was like a four seasons. They asked him if
his jacuzzi at home was hotter than this, and he said,
are you talking about Malibu or Tahoe?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They just stand there like, uh, as my bougie boy,
as my bougie boy.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I feel like this show could be improved upon if
he added another border or two.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
What are you the border patrol? I knew that the
borders would be a game changer. The first big marketing
meeting that we sat in right remember this, we were like,
they kept pitching us all kinds of things to make
the show stand out. And when that one team from
San Francisco, from Silicon Valley just like, listen, it's just borders.
All of our research is showing that if you make
(03:30):
borders around your podcast, the sky's the limit. I'm glad
we listened to them. We paid them, What do we
plan for that first border? It was eighty five thousand
dollars for the first version of the border. We said
no to that one. Then we went a different firm.
They actually charged us they charged us less thirty eight thousand,
but gave us just a beautiful thick border. I hope
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it lives on forever.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I wish your audio was more basy. I use headphones
that amplify base, and this podcast sounds very flat and
weird through them.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Can't you just adjust the base on your end? You
have to understand, I had Dylan back there. This guy
can barely tell his left foot from his right, so
give him an audio. Request has fallen on complete deaf ears.
You might not even me rolling right now. There's a
good chance this doesn't even air.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
When Eddie is giving his father's eulogy, Daniel should shout
sonalos agus three times, test his commitment to the bit.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
All right, you spelled Shanale's agasts wrong first of all.
Also Shenal's agusts everybody, Eddie, you're that that's technically you
said the first one, so that doesn't count.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
No, you got me on a technicality by everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I hope, I hope, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I hope you have to start doing that on stage
for forty five minutes every night of your life. If
somebody be if people start heckling at your show with that,
that'll be that'll be true.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Heaven just peoplenals GISTs in the theater.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Uh. All right, this is from.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
The Michelle Wee episode when he gave her cookies. Okay,
Milkshaw Cookies closed as of January fifteenth. How old is
this episode? You're serving up?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
All right? That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We pre record some of these and sadly, yes, they
did close, and the entire Tosh family is still in mourning,
so much so that today I have decided to get
to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Enjoy Pasha.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Today's guest is a woman after my own heart, based
solely on her quitting her job in television to spend
the next ten years owning and running one of my
favorite cookie shops.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Please welcome Courtney. Hello, Courtney.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm gonna be honest with you. This is arguably the
most important interview I've ever done. Cookies mean more to
me than my family same, so let's waste no time.
Where originally from? And have you always been obsessed with cookies?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I was born in forwarth Texas, and then we moved
to Indiana, a suburb of Indianapolis, when I was seven,
and then moved out here when I was twenty two.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
So I've been here longer than I've been anywhere else
but you.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But you grew up in Indianapolis. Basically I did.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I didn't answer your second question, which is have I
always been obsessed with cookies?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, so when I was a kid, my mom taught
me the basics of baking, and I really loved cookie dough,
and so that was pretty much what I would be
doing if I wasn't in school or in gymnastics, I
was making.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Cookie dough gymnastics. I was a gymnast, your competitive gymnast.
Your father coached the US men's team.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He was in charge of men's gymnastics. It was the
men's program administrator for US Gymnastics.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Your mother competed as well.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
She was She was a state champion in Texas.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
How tall are you?
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Five to two?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You are? You look taller?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So I carry myself up her?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You do you carry yourself taller? I wouldn't have pegged
you to five too. Yeah, my wife's five too. She
pretends like that's tall. But you've tired at fourteen?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, got injured?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Did you? What kind of injury?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like hips, like hip They never really identified it,
but I just like I couldn't really lift my right
leg above.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
What was your best event?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Probably vault and floor the vault.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, it's so exciting, so exciting, and everything could go wrong,
everything so bad, so fast.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You just just the way you run at it makes
me laugh every time.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's just like just this angry run.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean it is, it is a sprint, and then
you just hope for the best.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
How much money and is it possible?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Could I pay you to full steam run and do
the vault right now?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Could you? Could you run? Hit it and do something?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
That's a really great question. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I could run, would you be I could jump on
the board. I would be scared. Oh so great, I
would be scared. I feel like I could do I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You think you'd flip?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I really want to try.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Put a price tag on that and come back to me.
I grew up, you know, in love with cookies. My
grandfather was a baker. Okay, my grandfather was a professional baker.
My dad was a novice. Just you know, he grew
up because of his dad. So I just second handed it.
The amount of raw dough that I've consumed in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is if it could kill you, I'd be dead a
thousand times. Like that's the only reason I made cookie dough?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Could that could explain my stomach issues my whole life.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now you just have like a normal, like a regular
salmonilla case all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm running that a low just above.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Here we go again.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What did you move to Los Angeles for to work
in TV? What aspect?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Well? I had, I got a job.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I have one of those stories where my aunt worked
with a guy whose daughter worked out here. So my
sophomore year of college, I cold called her and just
tried to get advice. And so then whenever it came
time me to graduate, she was being promoted from post
production coordinator to supervisors. So I flew out the day
after I graduated from college, interviewed for the post coordinator position.
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Had no idea what I was doing, but they took
a chance on me, and yeah, I did that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
For That's kind of one of my favorite things about
Los Angeles that doesn't get enough attention is the amount
of jobs in show business that will give people that
have no experience. Yeah, I mean they turn over the
keys to like young people doing really important things on stuff.
(09:19):
Just a lot of times like on hype and stuff,
and that's kind of a neat thing. I don't know anyway.
All right, So how long did you work in that world?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Twelve years?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Twelve? Did you hate it or love it?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I loved it. I mean it was hard.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, there were there were particular shows that would
be like, I hate this.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You worked on the porn show on Hung Hung technically
not porn, but that.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Was the one show.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Every morning they made me go to the post production
facility and watch dailies and I was like.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Well, coffee in my morning, porn, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's so early to see dong.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was not great, but yeah, I really loved it.
But then it was like I did the cookies on
the side for the last seven years of that career
and just kind of kept going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You just started bringing your cookies in or you always
knew that you your cookies were a level above what
other people do.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, it really was like bringing them in and because I,
you know, single girl in my twenties is just bake
at night and bring them in, and you.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Know, as single girls do. I don't, is that something
that's what I did.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I haven't heard those I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, so I just bring them in and then I
started hearing kind of rumblings of like, hey, what bakery
are these cookies from? Those are so good, and so
then I just started thinking that was something to it.
And it was always just chocolate chip at the time.
And then I just started experimenting with other flavors and
I loved that creative outlet. And then I was like,
maybe I'll try to do something. So I started a
you know, cookie company out of the coat closet of
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my one bedroom apartment and just like shoved a fax
machine in there.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
It was very high tech.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, and just kind of did it on the side
for a while and for.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Seven years before then you opened the first brick and mortar.
It was the first brick mortar, the one in wheel Share.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, it's April twenty thirteen, and.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You ran that one for ten years. Pandemic, writers Strike,
all of it. Writer's strike was a surprising one that
affected you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
If you have a soapbox, I'll get on it for
a little while.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But no, it's really interesting because there's been so little
awareness of how deeply that impacted small businesses in this city.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
So like, what took us out is not unique to us.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, we were a very successful, beloved business and
it just thirty percent of our revenue went away overnight
because we did so much catering to sets and you know,
gifts for agents and managers and it was just like,
you know, there was so much of it and then
that was gone for it still hasn't really come back now.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That I realized I don't have to buy gifts from
my agents that money.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But like the entire it wasn't just the writers and
the actors. We know that the whole city wasn't working
and so those people are also not spending money. So
you know, the the foot traffic had never fully recovered
since COVID. But then, you know, and then whatever cookies
we were selling because we were very in support of
the strike, I think it was a really important thing
and we would you know, not just support it as
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a concept, but pass out cookies at the picket lines
and all that stuff. But you know, then you're offering
discounts to writers and actors that come in with their car.
So it was just everything kind of trickled down and yeah,
just ended up impacting us in a big way.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You were in the process or you'd already opened the
Pasadena location.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
In Cino in Sino.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, no, it's okay. We opened right when the strike started.
It should have been the previous August, so it should
have been a six month build out.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
A budgeted for nine and it took fifteen. That kind
of gave.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Us, you know, the nightmare building and stuff like that.
It's just yeah, planned for four months, but then be like,
all right, two years seems right.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Oh, it seems it seems reasonable.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Oh? Man, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I just was in Sacramento and my friend has a
ghost hunting app.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And she's single. No, oh, there's someone for everyone.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So I don't know. I believe in energy, like I
think we're all energy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Sorry, I off, No, that's okay, But I don't know,
like I've never had a ghost experience.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But this friend of mine then has the ghost.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Hunting they have an app, so that's no.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But she got the app because she had this experience
in Scotland in an old inn where there was like
the sound of like someone jumping on the bed and
this like a child giggle.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You don't like ghost with kids, that's all.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It feels a little freaky.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
One time I terrified my wife's cousin. She was standing
in a small little cabin that we had, and I
put a knife under her pillow and I and I
put these little little notes all around the bed. I
go kill her, not a ghost with crayons and I wrote,
give me back.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
My dress, Amanda, bring me my dress, and all these
old old photos of the house my dress please, ha
ha ha. The lake is called help my dress.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
A knife under the pillow might have been a touch
to me, nurse.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It was. It was because you didn't find that until
she's like laid that there's a Amanda knife.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Fuck scary as fuck.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And then when she went into the bathroom I had
I had a doll hanging by a noose inner shower.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And like she like she was like she couldn't that, Ama,
she was just couldn't handle to what levels I took.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know, Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Ye seen me walk into your store.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I hadn't, okay, because I used I was always incognitive,
but I would illegally park out front, just double park
in front of somebody.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I didn't like the parking situation. It actually infuriated me.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To be honest with you, Sometimes I would say to myself,
I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Self, I don't need to be doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm driving around for a cookie and I'm looking for
a parking spot.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It did get bad.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
We had three spots in the back and there was
a rear entrance, but then there was a public parking
not to discount your there was a public parking lot
on Cochrane and then metered all along Cochrane, Dunsmere and
will Share.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I've walked there before in my life from Carly's old house,
which is is basically by like the Melrose improv that coming.
Oh right, I walked the whole way. I was like,
I was like, ah, this is awful, going through going
through what mccallt park, pan Asian what's it called.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Pan Pacific pantas Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Whatever I'm walking, I'm going through the little band tar
pits to get a goddamn cookie.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I admire that.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
You were open till eleven o'clock at night. I couldn't
wrap my head around that.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Oh it's a.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Party in the long before I opened, I was like,
there's never a place like after you go to dinner
in a movie, do you want to go get something?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It was wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:27):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay, people are looking for a place to go and
we were across from the l ray, so it was
like after a show people could come over. And those
were my favorite nights where there was just like an energy.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It was a part. It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Are you like a donut make? Are you baking once?
Are you baking throughout the whole day?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Throughout the day?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, COVID changed things because like for two years everything
was because we already individually wrapped and stuff if it
was in a gift box.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
But then everything was individually wrapped. Love that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm also to continuous because your next chapter is going
to be exciting, so I want to get as much
feedback in as I can.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Perfect knock it off with the stupid that paper. I
hate your shread. Oh fuck your shred it's so much.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I have an amazing story. This lady came in and
she was just so mad. This is years ago, and
she was I don't want to shrud and she was
so mad and my employee and I didn't. I got
in on late on the situation, because it would have
been like, just take the tread, it's fine. But my
employee was doing what they were trained to do. She
handed to the box and the woman like takes it
and just starts going and.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Throwing it in the employee's face.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, well that's too far.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's too far.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I love this person, but that's way too far.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You agree with her, but not the way it's principle exactly.
But I was like, oh God, if anyone ever says
no shred, don't give them the shred.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
First of all, that's the worst part of a small
business is employees.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's difficult.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
It's just a nice It can also be the most
like rewarding.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, but let's focus on the negative. All right.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's hard, right, the individually wrapping, I was like, oh,
why did I order a dozen? This is just fucking
throw them into a I'm going to co workers. I'll
just open it upright, just the individual bags. Yeah, I know,
like come on.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's like so that because if you take a variety
and somebody's got a peanut allergy and now you've got.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
This, you know, I hope they die for their stupid allergy.
These are my employees that I'm giving it to. I
don't care what happens. To go through your top five
favorite cookie flavors that came from your store, I think
if I had.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
To choose one forever and I could only ever have it,
it'd be chocolate chip.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Walnut used to just be chocolate chip.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
There's something magical that that walnut oil like does to
the dough.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Even hate nuts, My hat nuts.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, I'm not like nuts, but either the not in
the dessert nuts and for when I'm like on a trail.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And even then I'm just eating them and m.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, I think banana split. Sorry again, walnuts in it,
but no.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The banana split bana split I could have it was
that was a fancy concept, but I I'll be honest.
The nuts were like, oh my.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Gosh, yeah, can I can? I do seasons as well?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Peppermint park I love the pepper I love peppermint picnic cookie?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Was that one I had pretzel bits in it?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I really loved the oatmeal chocolate chip. Ye, but I
would want to walk in there and be like, hey,
you know that batch that's that needs two more minutes.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's the one you want.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Let's pull it out now.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, the oatmeal, they would they got a little dry faster.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I always do double parchment paper. Oh and the reason
is I just don't want the bottom burnt at all
or dark or anything.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So that's my thing with I just live by parchment paper.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Double part that's a ball or move double parchment. I'm
going to I'm going to take that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You gotta spend to make.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The birthday cookie was one of my favorite, with the
scoop of a no ice cream warmed. I would heat
it up. He reheats very nicely. Yeah, I'm on tour.
I was in Texas, I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
At the time. Anyway, my tour bus in the daytime
near my hotel, pitch Black, it's not. And Pete, who's
a producer on the show. His wife who was a
comedy writer of mine writer and a friend she was
on tour. Well, she came to the bus in the
middle of the day to do something and she opens
the door and I'm alone in the bus in the dark,
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just eating the cookie by myself, and she's like, you
have She's like, you really have a problem. It's like
the afternoon problem.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Is it just a self care?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You charged three to four dollars a cookie during its peak?
How much money were you printing like that? That's such a.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Small amount of money.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, for like you know, yearly you make a pulling in,
there's like a million dollar dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Off of a three to four dollars product. That's very impressive.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
We sold a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
In terms of flavors, which cookies were selling the most, Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Chip was definitely the most popular, and then Banana split.
Some people love a classic, but they like the adventure too.
And then Birthday Cookie that actually started as a seasonal.
I don't know if you remember that. It was the
monthly flavor for our first anniversary in twenty fourteen, and
then after that it was the one everybody's like, where's
the Birthday cookie?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Well, in fairness, sometimes you would. I would go in
there and be like, there'd be a Birthday cookie disguised
as a Halloween cookie.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
We would change the color of the sprinkles. It's true.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, it's fine, that's fine. I actually don't like the
color orange and black, but whatever I liked the other
color was pretty er. Yeah, and also would make when
it was heated and you put a scoop of vanilla
ice cream, it would do some picturette it would do
some nice stuff to the ice cream.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, you appreciate your appreciation for the aesthetic.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What's your favorite holiday?
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Christmas? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Over at Christmas in my house, I do a few things.
They do a few traditional things. I do a short bread.
You don't mess with short but I do one short bread.
But then I do this bar peanut or pudding chocolate bar.
And then I do my regord traditional Christmas cookie, which
I actually love, which is obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The rollout kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Fun. I do a little orange peel in there.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, that adds You can taste You can taste that
orange peel, can't you, Pete, No, not even paying attention
over there. I want to talk about Yelp. You ran
a business in Los Angeles during the time of Yelp.
Talk a little about the bullshit with reviewers and navigating
those waters.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Oh man, you live and die by yelp. You really do.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
For the most part, people were so kind to us
on Yelp, and that was we never had a marketing budget.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It was all organic growth and so A lot of
that was because of Yelp and people being so generous
as to you know, take pictures and post them and
do one or full reviews, and then you have the
ones that are just so off base and not accurate
at all.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Owner, did you reply to people, because I always feel
that that's is tough when I start seeing owners going
back and forth.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Oh, it would never be like you're wrong. I mean
that's you're just asking for more. Like I would reply,
and because I always wanted to make it right, you know,
like the fact that they had chosen Milk Jark Cookies
to come and spend their hard earned money and their time,
and like that was never anything I took lightly.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My money was not hard earned, just for the.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Record, but it was just and that was something of
this staff was always and it was just like, this
is a privilege that they are choosing us.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Some people you're never going to place and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's the people that are like one star because parking
was terrible, right, you know, it's like that's not our problem.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's why I don't find you useful.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
No, I look at it. I have my own metric
of how I get aged. Yeah, like if somebody's complaining
about the price or the portion size.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't care. I don't care. I need the review like,
oh they won't serve Asians, and then.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I'll be like, oh, like that's terrible, that's a bad place.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I shouldn't support them, right, what is that place that
won't serve ass Again?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
You shipped worldwide, not worldwide, but nationwide at one point.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Shit, we're able to ship to Canada easily, and then
twenty sixteen some things changed.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And you're a big anti vaxer right totally?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
But yeah, no, we did.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Uh. It included Hawaii and Alaska, which we did ship to,
and Puerto Rico.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
We had a Cookie of the Month club member in
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I gifted a box of your cookies to Michelle Wee,
who I've interviewed on this show. Really yes, but that
was in protest from my wife because my wife can
gets so mad every month when the box came, because
she was like, you're going to die, Like She's like,
we don't need you don't need a somebody had gifted me.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So I was like, yeah, every month I got a box.
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Are there any current cookie companies you would recommend.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, it's interesting because I mean I'm a cookie lover.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Of course I think mine are the best.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But I will eat, you know, a grocery store bakery cookie.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But I have recently stopped if I bite a cookie
that I no longer want to eat before, I.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Just eat it, right, Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Here's another problem with when you love cookies and then
everybody buys you cookies.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like, oh, we're going to give you a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't want a lot because now I have to
either do the stupid freezer thing or I have to
start to vale eat them, right, And I don't like
to give them away. But it's like and they're only
really the best day one and day two. Yeah, so
now it's just I'm just sick to my stomach anyway,
all right, that's my soapbox.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So yes, so I've and during like the course of
our shutdown and you know, selling off all the things,
I got to meet several other bakery owners, which was
a nice gift. So there's one in Culver City called
the Very Best Cookie Company. There is a new one,
I think it's called flour at Sell.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's flur at Cell what is that flour and salt?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know. I don't like them, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And then there is Cookie Good in Santa Monica. So
all of these are independently owned.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What's his name over there, John He He likes zoo Eyes.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I have not ever tried Zoe's.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I've tried them. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I still can't get over the fact that you're going
into a gas station to buy the.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Most esthetically pleasing right.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, they are good. I've had a few of them.
Are good. You fuck with girlscot cookies, I do.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I was a Girl Scout top selling cookies. Of course.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
What was your favorite one, Benn? Did you have to
put in the freezer?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Oh? For sure, there's so much better in the freezer.
And I like a samoa.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I like a samoa, And there's room for.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
A dosy dough.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
The little peanut butter sandwich thing, I don't love it, Yeah,
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The treefoil, treefoil, Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah, short bread, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Do you ever do mess with short bread?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Your store?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Your store didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
We did chewy cookies. I don't like a hard cookie.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I don't either, that's why most of Girl Scouts were awful.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Yeah, cookies, there's a place for it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You know, what's the difference between baking soda and baking powder.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Baking powder has other things in it, So it's got
baking soda and it has I want to say, some.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Corn starch and terrible bake.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I can't remember the third ingredient, but anyway, they're kind
of interchange.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Can baking powder keep your cabinets fresh?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I don't think, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So that's where baking soda wins bakings.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was a marketing genius right there. So you know what,
buy these and just don't use them.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Oh, arm and hammer?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
What do you bake besides cookies?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I like?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I love to.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean I'm not great, Like I'm a terrible decorator,
like icing and frosting.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I like cake without icing.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, I like just the cake.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I had a naked cake for my wedding.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Oh really yeah? I like pie a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
What kind of pie are you making?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Usually like a fruit pie? So like mixed berry?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I like a heavy crumble.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yes, then that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's kind of like you get the fruit, but like
that's the good part, you know, like the brown sugar
and the crust and all that. Not big on like
a pumpkin pie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
No, it's disgusting.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I don't want to eat a rhubarb pie either, that's
too much. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Disgusting what I was mixed with?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Strawberry No, no, not even okay, strawberry pie.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So hey, what are you doing the rest of the day.
I don't know, I'll be shitting. I just had a
small slice strawberry pie, just so much. You like Sidecard Donuts?
You ever had there?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I like Side Card Donuts, you know, like them?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's a bit much. They have a cookie dough. They
have a cookie dough. I don't message. Did you have it? Did?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I know, I'm like, I'll go into a diabetic kalma.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Do you guys know that it's got a ball of
cookie dough inside a huge thick cake donut.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I love like their regular just like cake donut.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Good stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I went through a phase with that donut. No, it's embarrassing. Listen,
what are you gonna do? We've all got our things.
You brought cookies today?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I did right, a birthday and chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I this morning made cookies for you. That's great, but
I mean it's terrifying. But I tried to make a
cookie that that was like. I was like, I don't
want to make something similar. But and then then my
wife said like, don't do that cookie. And I'm like, oh,
and she's so she made me do her favorite cookie. Okay,
this was I did. This is oatmeal chocolate chip. But
(29:57):
another thing that my wife forces me to do. She
hates chocolate chips in quantity. Okay, so I have to
put or three per cookie. Okay, God, now again, I alright,
whatever I mean, I'm too much. You just have to
taste it into a review of my cookie on some level.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Okay, mmm, okay, it's got the crisp ouder.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
But you can do.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I feel like you should go for more of an
inner bite. But that's no, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Do you do you? You do you?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:27):
No? No, I I mean I think you got some
of my hair.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
That's good. It's not too sweet.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I like a balanced flavor, so like I always had
not overly sweet cookies.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I like that you put a banana inside your.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Cookie and salt. Do you bake with salted butter unsulted, unsulted. Yeah,
and then add the salt totally.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh man, that's stressful. Stress. That's good.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
All right, that's a good cookie, even for a thin cookie.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I know it's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But to keep it Doughey, I was going, thank you,
I was going to and I do the bang, you
know the bang where you them. Yeah, I do that
during the process. It's almost I almost feel like did
you ever watch Grace British bake Off?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I almost felt like that was it. That was like
my handshake moment.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Handshake, like that's my dream.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You would like to go on that show?
Speaker 6 (31:30):
No, I just want a handshake. That show would be
so strong. I mean, it would be so fun, and
they're so sweet to each other. I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
When somebody is bad, I almost I am excited because
I can't wait to see this disaster. Have you ever
been on a show?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Would you scary?
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I don't know, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I don't like I get it. Why they have to
do it for television? I don't. I don't want to
care about a time element. Yeah, you won because you
finished on time.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Somebody else took four more minutes and it was the
best cookie in the world. Well, I got a problem.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Yeah, exactly, that's not right.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Let me see your cookies. Just I like the idea
that this is.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Uh oh oh, I'm gonna say this out loud. The
chocolate chip these look better than some of the store
bought ones.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I mean, yeah, really controls a bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The lightness of the colors what I like. Yeah, Now,
in the store they they were sprinkled in the bottom
of these inside.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Well sometimes they would like know all the time. Well,
then the kitchen was not doing it properly.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They were they were the bottom was never clean like that.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Well, I just have the touch.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I haven't lost it. I actually took a picture this
morning and said it to my friend. I was like,
still got it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, I want to go chocolate chip just because I'm
in the mood for chocolate chip right now.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I don't want my memory there is that so funny? Pete?
How often had did you see those cookies you sort
of left out of the tour bus stories?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You flew across the country with enough to last you
the tour you did.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
That's so great, Thank you, I did.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No one wants to touch him he's her mine.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Hang a share. There you go.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You have a dog, I do. What's your dog's name?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Ollie how old thirteen? Uh oh, he's a handsome devil and.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You're about to not have a dog stop it. I know.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
But that's the day I brought him home. I was like,
he's gonna die some day.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's what I do.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's why I have two dogs. I have a fourteen
year old dog at home. And let me tell you something.
She will get trapped under a chair, like she can
just walk out, but she'll she'll She'll be frozen for
forty five minutes, and I'm just like, oh, come on,
and she can't hear, she doesn't really see. And then
sometimes she'll start running as fast as she can right
(33:52):
into a glassdoor.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Just it's just awful. You're like, oh, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He's hanging in there right now. He's very he's a
pretty healthy dog.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I have an er gift for you. It's no good, though,
it's no good. It's dog beds. Amazing you might, I
don't know you're gonna get them all. This is no good.
I like that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
So when I get more dog, what is.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I always give?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I always give people stuff that are on my should
But all right, let me put these down.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Hold on, some of these are nice. They are not
all of them, but these these are these are nice.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Carl.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Carl refuses to sleep in a dog bed.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, no matter what, my other dog refuses to sleep
in a dog bed.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm like, why do we have these dog bets?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
What's next for you? As someone who's already had two
full careers. Are you hanging up the apron or are
you ready to bake once more?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I think I'm hanging it up, Like I don't know
that I ever need to have another bakery and own
that kind of business. And I've become very passionate about
advocating and supporting small business as a whole, and so
I've been having a lot of conversations about ways to
do that. So whether it's running for office for office,
(35:09):
I don't know it's enough.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh my goodness, no, I mean that's incredible. I don't
know why that's my because it's.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
A chit show and it is accesspool in a lot
of ways, but you know, it's a concept. I have
fun necessity, but I think there are other ways to
make change as well. So I'm just kind of trying
to figure out what that is. I did a program
with Goldman Sachs in twenty twenty that was essentially a
micro MBA that you apply for and you just come
(35:38):
out of the program with a five year growth plan
for your business. And they have an advocacy side that's
ten thousand small business voices, and so I've been talking
with them a lot, trying to figure out if there's
opportunity there or I just think that it's the lifeblood
of every community, is the small businesses, and they're struggling,
you know, everywhere, but especially here.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
If you have another soapbox, I haven't that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, listen, if you have even any ideas to fix
the broken system, that seems like work that would be appreciated.
But yeah, would you have no side hustle bake just
like online order type thing or.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Is that not?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know, because it's so funny because if I
were to even open that door, like I wouldn't be
able to. I would have to have a kitchen, I
would have to have, you know, space to do the packaging, sorry,
the individual wrapping to ship them, got to have space
to store all that shred.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You know, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
What about already an business, it's established, but like you
just take over the baking portion of it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I also think consulting for small businesses is something I've
thought about doing, and I was kind of doing that
offhandedly when people were coming in to purchase stuff and
there's just a lot of I think there's a lot
of things that have been overlooked with small business and
all just there's not a lot of education out there,
and so I.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well, that's why most businesses fail is because everybody goes
into a completely blind Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I was.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I was hoping we were going to brainstorm on your
next big venture. But if it's just fixing every other
small business, that's that.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I'm open to the magic. I really am.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
All Right, guys, we're going to open up a waffle store.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh I love. I love what you call it. What's
the waffle of the sugar? That's the Belgian wall.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
My son once I told him, I go, hey, they
said that you don't need to eat breakfast, that you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Have waffles at school today. You know. He's like four
at the time. Yeah, and he but Dad, what if
they're not Belgian?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's a bougie kid. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I wasn't embarrassed. I was proud. Yeah, I was good.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Absolutely listen, I hope you fix every small business world.
That's that's amazing that that's even something that you're interested
in helping. Thank you for being on the show. And
I appreciate all your cookies that you've baked over the
years for me.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Thank you so much for being such a supportive customer.
It is much appreciated.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And thanks for having this was really fun, Pasha.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I want to thank Courtney for being on the show.
I really do hope she throws away all her aspirations
for running for a political office and fixing tons of
other small businesses. And I hope she focuses solely on baking.
But that's just me and I'm selfish. By the way, Carl,
she took all of your beds. She took your five beds.
(38:36):
You have no more beds, Okay, you can just sleep
wherever you want. No longer will I be forcing you
to get into a bed. He just lay down on
the floor like you always do. Finally get all that
extra floor space back. That'll be nice. And thank you
for Courtney for the cookies. Oh by the way, you
know what's funny. So I'm driving here, you know, to
(38:58):
Baldwin Hills live here. Uh, and then I realized, oh no,
I forgot to bring the five dog beds that I
set out to give away today. And then somebody tells
me here They're like, you know, you can just use Uber.
You don't have to put a human in it. You
(39:19):
can just hire Uber to deliver your stuff. I'm like,
are you serious? And sure enough we did it. Just
add an Uber driver, pick up your dog beds and
bring them here like fifty bucks.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
It's an hour drive. I'm impressed. Uber. Quite a service
you came up with. There.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
They got to give us money, give us money Uber
for me just plugging your weird what's it called Uber
connect Express is what I'm told that sounds like a
paid ad.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's not. I shouldn't say it the right way. I'm
just called Uber Delivery.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Whatever the very least, reimburse me the fifty two dollars
I just spent.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You tip on a package.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I guess I don't know how much you tip on
that package, Pete ten bucks, sixty two dollars. That's the
very least you can do, don't make this show run
in the red. What do we gotta plug A few things?
The Goat the reality show still guys, jump on Prime
check it out, do that thing where you if you're
not a member, you don't have the streaming service, you
(40:22):
can always find a way to get seven days free
with some bogus email.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't know how it works.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
And watch all ten episodes and hopefully we'll get back
to shooting a new season. And you know who I
want on the next season of The Goat. I want
some of the cast members from selling the oc. It's
like selling Sunset butt instead of just crazy outfits in
(40:51):
all girls. There's some guys and then there's some girls.
But they don't dress as crazy, and they got their
boobs out always. Their boobs are all always out. Anyway,
let's get some of them on the show on the
new season of The Goat. They're pretty crazy. Boys Wearpink
dot com the Toddler clothing line. Check that out. Come
(41:12):
see me on tour. Do stand up in Sandy Nez
or New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Come to New Orleans, grab yourself a Poe Boy and
a beignet and have a good laugh. Or come to
Hawaii with me for Thanksgiving. I should bring a viewer
with me to Hawaii phol trip.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You get a you come with me on the trip,
and you come to the shows. Some shows are Maui's,
some in Honolulu. Do the whole thing. Here's a part
of my life. You live with me for six months.
Make it a viewer that thinks I'm completely out of touch. Uh,
and let them just live with me for six months.
I want them to walk six months in my shoes
(41:52):
and then then say, oh, you know what, turns out
that's way better than I thought it was. You know
what for scratch, I don't want to do that. Don't
let anybody live with me, and nobody comes with me.
Maybe I'll meet somebody in Maui. That's what we should do.
Somebody's devastated by the fire, the fires in Maui a
(42:12):
few years ago. We should we should just take care
of one person.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I like that because it's always like, oh, oh, we
donated to whatever, and it's like it's just spread too thin.
I don't have enough money to make it like actually helpful.
But if we just pick one person and it's like here,
let's let's make your holidays better. Oh you know what
else I've wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I've always wanted to rent a truck and fill it
with turkeys and uh for Thanksgiving and then go to
a real nice neighborhood and give them out.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Hey, that bitch of nice, that bit you. They'd like
free turkeys too.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Frozen ones are live, know the live turkeys. If you
really want this turkey, you're gonna have to work for it.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well, yeah, and let me tell you something about killing
a live turkey.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You don't want to let it know that you're killing them,
because then that their meat tenses up. I think you
want to You want to sneak up on them samurai
style and just swing, because the last thing you want
before they die, you don't want their adrenaline to go
flying through their muscles. I don't know if that's true
or not, but I think I heard that once on
some show that was disgusting. All right, another bedtime story
(43:20):
from my son. I see you guys next week.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
All right, go ahead, what's upon time in this so
away planet? Like they riddle atronauts? They waded to the
knowing tame so what they needed to tall? Where the
water is sip? They brated to dot and ten oh
(43:46):
blow They said, And then the anaut waded and waded.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
And then the wai tame.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
So so anybody I didn't how accept the mulder beasts,
and they mild up beasts. But then sire and and
he brooded siah out. And there was a time the
dragged he were purple with flight on him always. Then
(44:23):
then when there were night time, he he got out
of bed. He got out, he went outside, and there were.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The beast of.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
It was told it was told him preezing beasts, and
that presently blew him and told him into assat you
but this, and then he told back, and then he
woved bow, and then missile beast flew away. Yeah, and
(44:57):
then the aftronaut waited and wait they did, and then
they saw another one to sip with the TV caten.
And then they got wrote and put to the astronaut.
They didn't know they were their titty tatten that the
atronaut and then the season whistled loudly, and then and
(45:22):
then and then so away to the rest to the
sull says, and then then and and then they all
went to bed.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
The end
Go through your top five favorite cookie flavors that came
from your store.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I think if I had to choose one forever and
I could only ever have it, it'd be chocolate chip walnut.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hate nuts, hate like nuts, but not in the dessert nuts.
And for one, I'm like on a trail. And even then,
I'm just eating the m and lashasha sho. It's Tuesday,
(00:34):
the second day of the week. As we all know,
on the second day, God created the sky. I on
this second day put forth a new episode, and it
was good man, welcome to Tosh Show. Huh, that's how
(00:56):
you get it started, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It is how you get started. A little blessing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let people know where we came from. We came from
the bottom. Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yep, right, they were there at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Who made you?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was God?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What else did God make all things?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Things that were around us?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You never were forced to memorize the shorter Catechism? Nope?
Oh boy, well, I'm in a sour mood. I know
we're gonna get some feedback from the audience.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Feedback, but here we got's hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Hold on, I'm not ready. I gotta mentally prepare for feedback.
From our viewers and our listeners, subscribers, some.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of our fans. Are they subscribing? Not at record pace.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm told if we don't get our subscriber numbers up,
that means they stay the same. I'd like our subscriber
numbers to go down. I'd like people to unsubscribe. See
if we can get that number back to zero.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Be sure to unsubscribe.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I want to see if we can get our show
up to five million subscribers, and then I want to
do the show and take it down to zero.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know if it's possible.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know if anybody's ever accomplished that, got five
million subscribers and then got it back down to zero,
just through good old fashioned hate.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Speaking of vitriol, let's hear from our fans.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Here we go. I hate you, Daniel Tosh. How dare
you advertise in the middle of the podcast?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I feel you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know my goal for this podcast, I've said this
since day one, has always been to create a place
for advertisers and consumers to just vibe.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Next one, Tash's kid loves telling stories about Lake Tahoe.
It's a total flex and he doesn't even know it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Now he knows it. Once someone asked my son in
the jacuzzi. We were sitting in a jacuzzi, a public jacuzi.
It was like a four seasons. They asked him if
his jacuzzi at home was hotter than this, and he said,
are you talking about Malibu or Tahoe?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They just stand there like, uh, as my bougie boy,
as my bougie boy.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I feel like this show could be improved upon if
he added another border or two.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
What are you the border patrol? I knew that the
borders would be a game changer. The first big marketing
meeting that we sat in right remember this, we were like,
they kept pitching us all kinds of things to make
the show stand out. And when that one team from
San Francisco, from Silicon Valley just like, listen, it's just borders.
All of our research is showing that if you make
(03:30):
borders around your podcast, the sky's the limit. I'm glad
we listened to them. We paid them, What do we
plan for that first border? It was eighty five thousand
dollars for the first version of the border. We said
no to that one. Then we went a different firm.
They actually charged us they charged us less thirty eight thousand,
but gave us just a beautiful thick border. I hope
(03:52):
it lives on forever.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I wish your audio was more basy. I use headphones
that amplify base, and this podcast sounds very flat and
weird through them.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Can't you just adjust the base on your end? You
have to understand, I had Dylan back there. This guy
can barely tell his left foot from his right, so
give him an audio. Request has fallen on complete deaf ears.
You might not even me rolling right now. There's a
good chance this doesn't even air.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
When Eddie is giving his father's eulogy, Daniel should shout
sonalos agus three times, test his commitment to the bit.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
All right, you spelled Shanale's agasts wrong first of all.
Also Shenal's agusts everybody, Eddie, you're that that's technically you
said the first one, so that doesn't count.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
No, you got me on a technicality by everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I hope, I hope, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I hope you have to start doing that on stage
for forty five minutes every night of your life. If
somebody be if people start heckling at your show with that,
that'll be that'll be true.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Heaven just peoplenals GISTs in the theater.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Uh. All right, this is from.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
The Michelle Wee episode when he gave her cookies. Okay,
Milkshaw Cookies closed as of January fifteenth. How old is
this episode? You're serving up?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
All right? That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We pre record some of these and sadly, yes, they
did close, and the entire Tosh family is still in mourning,
so much so that today I have decided to get
to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Enjoy Pasha.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Today's guest is a woman after my own heart, based
solely on her quitting her job in television to spend
the next ten years owning and running one of my
favorite cookie shops.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Please welcome Courtney. Hello, Courtney.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm gonna be honest with you. This is arguably the
most important interview I've ever done. Cookies mean more to
me than my family same, so let's waste no time.
Where originally from? And have you always been obsessed with cookies?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I was born in forwarth Texas, and then we moved
to Indiana, a suburb of Indianapolis, when I was seven,
and then moved out here when I was twenty two.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
So I've been here longer than I've been anywhere else
but you.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But you grew up in Indianapolis. Basically I did.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I didn't answer your second question, which is have I
always been obsessed with cookies?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, so when I was a kid, my mom taught
me the basics of baking, and I really loved cookie dough,
and so that was pretty much what I would be
doing if I wasn't in school or in gymnastics, I
was making.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Cookie dough gymnastics. I was a gymnast, your competitive gymnast.
Your father coached the US men's team.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
He was in charge of men's gymnastics. It was the
men's program administrator for US Gymnastics.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Your mother competed as well.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
She was She was a state champion in Texas.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
How tall are you?
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Five to two?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You are? You look taller?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So I carry myself up her?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You do you carry yourself taller? I wouldn't have pegged
you to five too. Yeah, my wife's five too. She
pretends like that's tall. But you've tired at fourteen?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, got injured?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Did you? What kind of injury?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like hips, like hip They never really identified it,
but I just like I couldn't really lift my right
leg above.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
What was your best event?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Probably vault and floor the vault.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, it's so exciting, so exciting, and everything could go wrong,
everything so bad, so fast.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You just just the way you run at it makes
me laugh every time.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's just like just this angry run.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean it is, it is a sprint, and then
you just hope for the best.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
How much money and is it possible?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Could I pay you to full steam run and do
the vault right now?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Could you? Could you run? Hit it and do something?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
That's a really great question. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I could run, would you be I could jump on
the board. I would be scared. Oh so great, I
would be scared. I feel like I could do I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You think you'd flip?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I really want to try.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Put a price tag on that and come back to me.
I grew up, you know, in love with cookies. My
grandfather was a baker. Okay, my grandfather was a professional baker.
My dad was a novice. Just you know, he grew
up because of his dad. So I just second handed it.
The amount of raw dough that I've consumed in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is if it could kill you, I'd be dead a
thousand times. Like that's the only reason I made cookie dough?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Could that could explain my stomach issues my whole life.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now you just have like a normal, like a regular
salmonilla case all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm running that a low just above.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Here we go again.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What did you move to Los Angeles for to work
in TV? What aspect?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Well? I had, I got a job.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I have one of those stories where my aunt worked
with a guy whose daughter worked out here. So my
sophomore year of college, I cold called her and just
tried to get advice. And so then whenever it came
time me to graduate, she was being promoted from post
production coordinator to supervisors. So I flew out the day
after I graduated from college, interviewed for the post coordinator position.
(08:52):
Had no idea what I was doing, but they took
a chance on me, and yeah, I did that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
For That's kind of one of my favorite things about
Los Angeles that doesn't get enough attention is the amount
of jobs in show business that will give people that
have no experience. Yeah, I mean they turn over the
keys to like young people doing really important things on stuff.
(09:19):
Just a lot of times like on hype and stuff,
and that's kind of a neat thing. I don't know anyway.
All right, So how long did you work in that world?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Twelve years?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Twelve? Did you hate it or love it?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I loved it. I mean it was hard.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, there were there were particular shows that would
be like, I hate this.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You worked on the porn show on Hung Hung technically
not porn, but that.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Was the one show.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Every morning they made me go to the post production
facility and watch dailies and I was like.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Well, coffee in my morning, porn, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's so early to see dong.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was not great, but yeah, I really loved it.
But then it was like I did the cookies on
the side for the last seven years of that career
and just kind of kept going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You just started bringing your cookies in or you always
knew that you your cookies were a level above what
other people do.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, it really was like bringing them in and because I,
you know, single girl in my twenties is just bake
at night and bring them in, and you.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Know, as single girls do. I don't, is that something
that's what I did.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I haven't heard those I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, so I just bring them in and then I
started hearing kind of rumblings of like, hey, what bakery
are these cookies from? Those are so good, and so
then I just started thinking that was something to it.
And it was always just chocolate chip at the time.
And then I just started experimenting with other flavors and
I loved that creative outlet. And then I was like,
maybe I'll try to do something. So I started a
you know, cookie company out of the coat closet of
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my one bedroom apartment and just like shoved a fax
machine in there.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
It was very high tech.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, and just kind of did it on the side
for a while and for.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Seven years before then you opened the first brick and mortar.
It was the first brick mortar, the one in wheel Share.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, it's April twenty thirteen, and.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You ran that one for ten years. Pandemic, writers Strike,
all of it. Writer's strike was a surprising one that
affected you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
If you have a soapbox, I'll get on it for
a little while.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But no, it's really interesting because there's been so little
awareness of how deeply that impacted small businesses in this city.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
So like, what took us out is not unique to us.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, we were a very successful, beloved business and
it just thirty percent of our revenue went away overnight
because we did so much catering to sets and you know,
gifts for agents and managers and it was just like,
you know, there was so much of it and then
that was gone for it still hasn't really come back now.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That I realized I don't have to buy gifts from
my agents that money.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But like the entire it wasn't just the writers and
the actors. We know that the whole city wasn't working
and so those people are also not spending money. So
you know, the the foot traffic had never fully recovered
since COVID. But then, you know, and then whatever cookies
we were selling because we were very in support of
the strike, I think it was a really important thing
and we would you know, not just support it as
(12:12):
a concept, but pass out cookies at the picket lines
and all that stuff. But you know, then you're offering
discounts to writers and actors that come in with their car.
So it was just everything kind of trickled down and yeah,
just ended up impacting us in a big way.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You were in the process or you'd already opened the
Pasadena location.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
In Cino in Sino.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, no, it's okay. We opened right when the strike started.
It should have been the previous August, so it should
have been a six month build out.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
A budgeted for nine and it took fifteen. That kind
of gave.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Us, you know, the nightmare building and stuff like that.
It's just yeah, planned for four months, but then be like,
all right, two years seems right.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Oh, it seems it seems reasonable.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Oh? Man, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I just was in Sacramento and my friend has a
ghost hunting app.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And she's single. No, oh, there's someone for everyone.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So I don't know. I believe in energy, like I
think we're all energy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Sorry, I off, No, that's okay, But I don't know,
like I've never had a ghost experience.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But this friend of mine then has the ghost.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Hunting they have an app, so that's no.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But she got the app because she had this experience
in Scotland in an old inn where there was like
the sound of like someone jumping on the bed and
this like a child giggle.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You don't like ghost with kids, that's all.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It feels a little freaky.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
One time I terrified my wife's cousin. She was standing
in a small little cabin that we had, and I
put a knife under her pillow and I and I
put these little little notes all around the bed. I
go kill her, not a ghost with crayons and I wrote,
give me back.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
My dress, Amanda, bring me my dress, and all these
old old photos of the house my dress please, ha
ha ha. The lake is called help my dress.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
A knife under the pillow might have been a touch
to me, nurse.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It was. It was because you didn't find that until
she's like laid that there's a Amanda knife.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Fuck scary as fuck.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And then when she went into the bathroom I had
I had a doll hanging by a noose inner shower.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And like she like she was like she couldn't that, Ama,
she was just couldn't handle to what levels I took.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know, Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Ye seen me walk into your store.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I hadn't, okay, because I used I was always incognitive,
but I would illegally park out front, just double park
in front of somebody.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I didn't like the parking situation. It actually infuriated me.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
To be honest with you, Sometimes I would say to myself,
I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Self, I don't need to be doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm driving around for a cookie and I'm looking for
a parking spot.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It did get bad.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
We had three spots in the back and there was
a rear entrance, but then there was a public parking
not to discount your there was a public parking lot
on Cochrane and then metered all along Cochrane, Dunsmere and
will Share.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I've walked there before in my life from Carly's old house,
which is is basically by like the Melrose improv that coming.
Oh right, I walked the whole way. I was like,
I was like, ah, this is awful, going through going
through what mccallt park, pan Asian what's it called.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Pan Pacific pantas Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Whatever I'm walking, I'm going through the little band tar
pits to get a goddamn cookie.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I admire that.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
You were open till eleven o'clock at night. I couldn't
wrap my head around that.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Oh it's a.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Party in the long before I opened, I was like,
there's never a place like after you go to dinner
in a movie, do you want to go get something?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It was wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:27):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay, people are looking for a place to go and
we were across from the l ray, so it was
like after a show people could come over. And those
were my favorite nights where there was just like an energy.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It was a part. It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Are you like a donut make? Are you baking once?
Are you baking throughout the whole day?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Throughout the day?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, COVID changed things because like for two years everything
was because we already individually wrapped and stuff if it
was in a gift box.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
But then everything was individually wrapped. Love that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm also to continuous because your next chapter is going
to be exciting, so I want to get as much
feedback in as I can.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Perfect knock it off with the stupid that paper. I
hate your shread. Oh fuck your shred it's so much.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I have an amazing story. This lady came in and
she was just so mad. This is years ago, and
she was I don't want to shrud and she was
so mad and my employee and I didn't. I got
in on late on the situation, because it would have
been like, just take the tread, it's fine. But my
employee was doing what they were trained to do. She
handed to the box and the woman like takes it
and just starts going and.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Throwing it in the employee's face.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, well that's too far.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's too far.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I love this person, but that's way too far.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You agree with her, but not the way it's principle exactly.
But I was like, oh God, if anyone ever says
no shred, don't give them the shred.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
First of all, that's the worst part of a small
business is employees.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's difficult.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
It's just a nice It can also be the most
like rewarding.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, but let's focus on the negative. All right.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's hard, right, the individually wrapping, I was like, oh,
why did I order a dozen? This is just fucking
throw them into a I'm going to co workers. I'll
just open it upright, just the individual bags. Yeah, I know,
like come on.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's like so that because if you take a variety
and somebody's got a peanut allergy and now you've got.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
This, you know, I hope they die for their stupid allergy.
These are my employees that I'm giving it to. I
don't care what happens. To go through your top five
favorite cookie flavors that came from your store, I think
if I had.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
To choose one forever and I could only ever have it,
it'd be chocolate chip.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Walnut used to just be chocolate chip.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
There's something magical that that walnut oil like does to
the dough.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Even hate nuts, My hat nuts.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, I'm not like nuts, but either the not in
the dessert nuts and for when I'm like on a trail.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And even then I'm just eating them and m.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, I think banana split. Sorry again, walnuts in it,
but no.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The banana split bana split I could have it was
that was a fancy concept, but I I'll be honest.
The nuts were like, oh my.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Gosh, yeah, can I can? I do seasons as well?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Peppermint park I love the pepper I love peppermint picnic cookie?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Was that one I had pretzel bits in it?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I really loved the oatmeal chocolate chip. Ye, but I
would want to walk in there and be like, hey,
you know that batch that's that needs two more minutes.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's the one you want.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Let's pull it out now.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, the oatmeal, they would they got a little dry faster.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I always do double parchment paper. Oh and the reason
is I just don't want the bottom burnt at all
or dark or anything.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So that's my thing with I just live by parchment paper.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Double part that's a ball or move double parchment. I'm
going to I'm going to take that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You gotta spend to make.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The birthday cookie was one of my favorite, with the
scoop of a no ice cream warmed. I would heat
it up. He reheats very nicely. Yeah, I'm on tour.
I was in Texas, I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
At the time. Anyway, my tour bus in the daytime
near my hotel, pitch Black, it's not. And Pete, who's
a producer on the show. His wife who was a
comedy writer of mine writer and a friend she was
on tour. Well, she came to the bus in the
middle of the day to do something and she opens
the door and I'm alone in the bus in the dark,
(20:31):
just eating the cookie by myself, and she's like, you
have She's like, you really have a problem. It's like
the afternoon problem.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Is it just a self care?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You charged three to four dollars a cookie during its peak?
How much money were you printing like that? That's such a.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Small amount of money.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, for like you know, yearly you make a pulling in,
there's like a million dollar dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Off of a three to four dollars product. That's very impressive.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
We sold a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
In terms of flavors, which cookies were selling the most, Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Chip was definitely the most popular, and then Banana split.
Some people love a classic, but they like the adventure too.
And then Birthday Cookie that actually started as a seasonal.
I don't know if you remember that. It was the
monthly flavor for our first anniversary in twenty fourteen, and
then after that it was the one everybody's like, where's
the Birthday cookie?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Well, in fairness, sometimes you would. I would go in
there and be like, there'd be a Birthday cookie disguised
as a Halloween cookie.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
We would change the color of the sprinkles. It's true.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, it's fine, that's fine. I actually don't like the
color orange and black, but whatever I liked the other
color was pretty er. Yeah, and also would make when
it was heated and you put a scoop of vanilla
ice cream, it would do some picturette it would do
some nice stuff to the ice cream.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, you appreciate your appreciation for the aesthetic.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What's your favorite holiday?
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Christmas? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Over at Christmas in my house, I do a few things.
They do a few traditional things. I do a short bread.
You don't mess with short but I do one short bread.
But then I do this bar peanut or pudding chocolate bar.
And then I do my regord traditional Christmas cookie, which
I actually love, which is obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The rollout kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Fun. I do a little orange peel in there.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, that adds You can taste You can taste that
orange peel, can't you, Pete, No, not even paying attention
over there. I want to talk about Yelp. You ran
a business in Los Angeles during the time of Yelp.
Talk a little about the bullshit with reviewers and navigating
those waters.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Oh man, you live and die by yelp. You really do.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
For the most part, people were so kind to us
on Yelp, and that was we never had a marketing budget.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It was all organic growth and so A lot of
that was because of Yelp and people being so generous
as to you know, take pictures and post them and
do one or full reviews, and then you have the
ones that are just so off base and not accurate
at all.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Owner, did you reply to people, because I always feel
that that's is tough when I start seeing owners going
back and forth.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Oh, it would never be like you're wrong. I mean
that's you're just asking for more. Like I would reply,
and because I always wanted to make it right, you know,
like the fact that they had chosen Milk Jark Cookies
to come and spend their hard earned money and their time,
and like that was never anything I took lightly.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My money was not hard earned, just for the.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Record, but it was just and that was something of
this staff was always and it was just like, this
is a privilege that they are choosing us.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Some people you're never going to place and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's the people that are like one star because parking
was terrible, right, you know, it's like that's not our problem.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's why I don't find you useful.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
No, I look at it. I have my own metric
of how I get aged. Yeah, like if somebody's complaining
about the price or the portion size.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't care. I don't care. I need the review like,
oh they won't serve Asians, and then.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I'll be like, oh, like that's terrible, that's a bad place.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I shouldn't support them, right, what is that place that
won't serve ass Again?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
You shipped worldwide, not worldwide, but nationwide at one point.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Shit, we're able to ship to Canada easily, and then
twenty sixteen some things changed.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And you're a big anti vaxer right totally?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
But yeah, no, we did.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Uh. It included Hawaii and Alaska, which we did ship to,
and Puerto Rico.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
We had a Cookie of the Month club member in
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I gifted a box of your cookies to Michelle Wee,
who I've interviewed on this show. Really yes, but that
was in protest from my wife because my wife can
gets so mad every month when the box came, because
she was like, you're going to die, Like She's like,
we don't need you don't need a somebody had gifted me.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So I was like, yeah, every month I got a box.
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Are there any current cookie companies you would recommend.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, it's interesting because I mean I'm a cookie lover.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Of course I think mine are the best.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But I will eat, you know, a grocery store bakery cookie.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But I have recently stopped if I bite a cookie
that I no longer want to eat before, I.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Just eat it, right, Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Here's another problem with when you love cookies and then
everybody buys you cookies.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like, oh, we're going to give you a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't want a lot because now I have to
either do the stupid freezer thing or I have to
start to vale eat them, right, And I don't like
to give them away. But it's like and they're only
really the best day one and day two. Yeah, so
now it's just I'm just sick to my stomach anyway,
all right, that's my soapbox.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So yes, so I've and during like the course of
our shutdown and you know, selling off all the things,
I got to meet several other bakery owners, which was
a nice gift. So there's one in Culver City called
the Very Best Cookie Company. There is a new one,
I think it's called flour at Sell.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's flur at Cell what is that flour and salt?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know. I don't like them, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And then there is Cookie Good in Santa Monica. So
all of these are independently owned.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What's his name over there, John He He likes zoo Eyes.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I have not ever tried Zoe's.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I've tried them. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I still can't get over the fact that you're going
into a gas station to buy the.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Most esthetically pleasing right.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, they are good. I've had a few of them.
Are good. You fuck with girlscot cookies, I do.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I was a Girl Scout top selling cookies. Of course.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
What was your favorite one, Benn? Did you have to
put in the freezer?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Oh? For sure, there's so much better in the freezer.
And I like a samoa.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I like a samoa, And there's room for.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
A dosy dough.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
The little peanut butter sandwich thing, I don't love it, Yeah,
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The treefoil, treefoil, Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah, short bread, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Do you ever do mess with short bread?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Your store?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Your store didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
We did chewy cookies. I don't like a hard cookie.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I don't either, that's why most of Girl Scouts were awful.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Yeah, cookies, there's a place for it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You know, what's the difference between baking soda and baking powder.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Baking powder has other things in it, So it's got
baking soda and it has I want to say, some.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Corn starch and terrible bake.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I can't remember the third ingredient, but anyway, they're kind
of interchange.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Can baking powder keep your cabinets fresh?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I don't think, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So that's where baking soda wins bakings.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was a marketing genius right there. So you know what,
buy these and just don't use them.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Oh, arm and hammer?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
What do you bake besides cookies?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I like?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I love to.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean I'm not great, Like I'm a terrible decorator,
like icing and frosting.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I like cake without icing.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, I like just the cake.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I had a naked cake for my wedding.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Oh really yeah? I like pie a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
What kind of pie are you making?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Usually like a fruit pie? So like mixed berry?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I like a heavy crumble.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yes, then that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's kind of like you get the fruit, but like
that's the good part, you know, like the brown sugar
and the crust and all that. Not big on like
a pumpkin pie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
No, it's disgusting.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I don't want to eat a rhubarb pie either, that's
too much. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Disgusting what I was mixed with?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Strawberry No, no, not even okay, strawberry pie.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So hey, what are you doing the rest of the day.
I don't know, I'll be shitting. I just had a
small slice strawberry pie, just so much. You like Sidecard Donuts?
You ever had there?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I like Side Card Donuts, you know, like them?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's a bit much. They have a cookie dough. They
have a cookie dough. I don't message. Did you have it? Did?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I know, I'm like, I'll go into a diabetic kalma.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Do you guys know that it's got a ball of
cookie dough inside a huge thick cake donut.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I love like their regular just like cake donut.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Good stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I went through a phase with that donut. No, it's embarrassing. Listen,
what are you gonna do? We've all got our things.
You brought cookies today?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I did right, a birthday and chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I this morning made cookies for you. That's great, but
I mean it's terrifying. But I tried to make a
cookie that that was like. I was like, I don't
want to make something similar. But and then then my
wife said like, don't do that cookie. And I'm like, oh,
and she's so she made me do her favorite cookie. Okay,
this was I did. This is oatmeal chocolate chip. But
(29:57):
another thing that my wife forces me to do. She
hates chocolate chips in quantity. Okay, so I have to
put or three per cookie. Okay, God, now again, I alright,
whatever I mean, I'm too much. You just have to
taste it into a review of my cookie on some level.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Okay, mmm, okay, it's got the crisp ouder.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
But you can do.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I feel like you should go for more of an
inner bite. But that's no, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Do you do you? You do you?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:27):
No? No, I I mean I think you got some
of my hair.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
That's good. It's not too sweet.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I like a balanced flavor, so like I always had
not overly sweet cookies.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I like that you put a banana inside your.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Cookie and salt. Do you bake with salted butter unsulted, unsulted. Yeah,
and then add the salt totally.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh man, that's stressful. Stress. That's good.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
All right, that's a good cookie, even for a thin cookie.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I know it's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But to keep it Doughey, I was going, thank you,
I was going to and I do the bang, you
know the bang where you them. Yeah, I do that
during the process. It's almost I almost feel like did
you ever watch Grace British bake Off?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I almost felt like that was it. That was like
my handshake moment.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Handshake, like that's my dream.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You would like to go on that show?
Speaker 6 (31:30):
No, I just want a handshake. That show would be
so strong. I mean, it would be so fun, and
they're so sweet to each other. I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
When somebody is bad, I almost I am excited because
I can't wait to see this disaster. Have you ever
been on a show?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Would you scary?
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I don't know, it's scary.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I don't like I get it. Why they have to
do it for television? I don't. I don't want to
care about a time element. Yeah, you won because you
finished on time.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Somebody else took four more minutes and it was the
best cookie in the world. Well, I got a problem.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Yeah, exactly, that's not right.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Let me see your cookies. Just I like the idea
that this is.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Uh oh oh, I'm gonna say this out loud. The
chocolate chip these look better than some of the store
bought ones.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I mean, yeah, really controls a bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The lightness of the colors what I like. Yeah, Now,
in the store they they were sprinkled in the bottom
of these inside.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Well sometimes they would like know all the time. Well,
then the kitchen was not doing it properly.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They were they were the bottom was never clean like that.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Well, I just have the touch.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I haven't lost it. I actually took a picture this
morning and said it to my friend. I was like,
still got it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, I want to go chocolate chip just because I'm
in the mood for chocolate chip right now.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I don't want my memory there is that so funny? Pete?
How often had did you see those cookies you sort
of left out of the tour bus stories?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You flew across the country with enough to last you
the tour you did.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
That's so great, Thank you, I did.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No one wants to touch him he's her mine.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Hang a share. There you go.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You have a dog, I do. What's your dog's name?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Ollie how old thirteen? Uh oh, he's a handsome devil and.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You're about to not have a dog stop it. I know.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
But that's the day I brought him home. I was like,
he's gonna die some day.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's what I do.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's why I have two dogs. I have a fourteen
year old dog at home. And let me tell you something.
She will get trapped under a chair, like she can
just walk out, but she'll she'll She'll be frozen for
forty five minutes, and I'm just like, oh, come on,
and she can't hear, she doesn't really see. And then
sometimes she'll start running as fast as she can right
(33:52):
into a glassdoor.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Just it's just awful. You're like, oh, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He's hanging in there right now. He's very he's a
pretty healthy dog.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I have an er gift for you. It's no good, though,
it's no good. It's dog beds. Amazing you might, I
don't know you're gonna get them all. This is no good.
I like that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
So when I get more dog, what is.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I always give?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I always give people stuff that are on my should
But all right, let me put these down.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Hold on, some of these are nice. They are not
all of them, but these these are these are nice.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Carl.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Carl refuses to sleep in a dog bed.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, no matter what, my other dog refuses to sleep
in a dog bed.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm like, why do we have these dog bets?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
What's next for you? As someone who's already had two
full careers. Are you hanging up the apron or are
you ready to bake once more?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I think I'm hanging it up, Like I don't know
that I ever need to have another bakery and own
that kind of business. And I've become very passionate about
advocating and supporting small business as a whole, and so
I've been having a lot of conversations about ways to
do that. So whether it's running for office for office,
(35:09):
I don't know it's enough.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh my goodness, no, I mean that's incredible. I don't
know why that's my because it's.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
A chit show and it is accesspool in a lot
of ways, but you know, it's a concept. I have
fun necessity, but I think there are other ways to
make change as well. So I'm just kind of trying
to figure out what that is. I did a program
with Goldman Sachs in twenty twenty that was essentially a
micro MBA that you apply for and you just come
(35:38):
out of the program with a five year growth plan
for your business. And they have an advocacy side that's
ten thousand small business voices, and so I've been talking
with them a lot, trying to figure out if there's
opportunity there or I just think that it's the lifeblood
of every community, is the small businesses, and they're struggling,
you know, everywhere, but especially here.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
If you have another soapbox, I haven't that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, listen, if you have even any ideas to fix
the broken system, that seems like work that would be appreciated.
But yeah, would you have no side hustle bake just
like online order type thing or.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Is that not?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know, because it's so funny because if I
were to even open that door, like I wouldn't be
able to. I would have to have a kitchen, I
would have to have, you know, space to do the packaging, sorry,
the individual wrapping to ship them, got to have space
to store all that shred.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You know, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
What about already an business, it's established, but like you
just take over the baking portion of it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I also think consulting for small businesses is something I've
thought about doing, and I was kind of doing that
offhandedly when people were coming in to purchase stuff and
there's just a lot of I think there's a lot
of things that have been overlooked with small business and
all just there's not a lot of education out there,
and so I.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well, that's why most businesses fail is because everybody goes
into a completely blind Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I was.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I was hoping we were going to brainstorm on your
next big venture. But if it's just fixing every other
small business, that's that.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I'm open to the magic. I really am.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
All Right, guys, we're going to open up a waffle store.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh I love. I love what you call it. What's
the waffle of the sugar? That's the Belgian wall.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
My son once I told him, I go, hey, they
said that you don't need to eat breakfast, that you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Have waffles at school today. You know. He's like four
at the time. Yeah, and he but Dad, what if
they're not Belgian?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's a bougie kid. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I wasn't embarrassed. I was proud. Yeah, I was good.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Absolutely listen, I hope you fix every small business world.
That's that's amazing that that's even something that you're interested
in helping. Thank you for being on the show. And
I appreciate all your cookies that you've baked over the
years for me.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Thank you so much for being such a supportive customer.
It is much appreciated.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And thanks for having this was really fun, Pasha.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I want to thank Courtney for being on the show.
I really do hope she throws away all her aspirations
for running for a political office and fixing tons of
other small businesses. And I hope she focuses solely on baking.
But that's just me and I'm selfish. By the way, Carl,
she took all of your beds. She took your five beds.
(38:36):
You have no more beds, Okay, you can just sleep
wherever you want. No longer will I be forcing you
to get into a bed. He just lay down on
the floor like you always do. Finally get all that
extra floor space back. That'll be nice. And thank you
for Courtney for the cookies. Oh by the way, you
know what's funny. So I'm driving here, you know, to
(38:58):
Baldwin Hills live here. Uh, and then I realized, oh no,
I forgot to bring the five dog beds that I
set out to give away today. And then somebody tells
me here They're like, you know, you can just use Uber.
You don't have to put a human in it. You
(39:19):
can just hire Uber to deliver your stuff. I'm like,
are you serious? And sure enough we did it. Just
add an Uber driver, pick up your dog beds and
bring them here like fifty bucks.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
It's an hour drive. I'm impressed. Uber. Quite a service
you came up with. There.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
They got to give us money, give us money Uber
for me just plugging your weird what's it called Uber
connect Express is what I'm told that sounds like a
paid ad.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's not. I shouldn't say it the right way. I'm
just called Uber Delivery.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Whatever the very least, reimburse me the fifty two dollars
I just spent.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You tip on a package.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I guess I don't know how much you tip on
that package, Pete ten bucks, sixty two dollars. That's the
very least you can do, don't make this show run
in the red. What do we gotta plug A few things?
The Goat the reality show still guys, jump on Prime
check it out, do that thing where you if you're
not a member, you don't have the streaming service, you
(40:22):
can always find a way to get seven days free
with some bogus email.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't know how it works.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
And watch all ten episodes and hopefully we'll get back
to shooting a new season. And you know who I
want on the next season of The Goat. I want
some of the cast members from selling the oc. It's
like selling Sunset butt instead of just crazy outfits in
(40:51):
all girls. There's some guys and then there's some girls.
But they don't dress as crazy, and they got their
boobs out always. Their boobs are all always out. Anyway,
let's get some of them on the show on the
new season of The Goat. They're pretty crazy. Boys Wearpink
dot com the Toddler clothing line. Check that out. Come
(41:12):
see me on tour. Do stand up in Sandy Nez
or New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Come to New Orleans, grab yourself a Poe Boy and
a beignet and have a good laugh. Or come to
Hawaii with me for Thanksgiving. I should bring a viewer
with me to Hawaii phol trip.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You get a you come with me on the trip,
and you come to the shows. Some shows are Maui's,
some in Honolulu. Do the whole thing. Here's a part
of my life. You live with me for six months.
Make it a viewer that thinks I'm completely out of touch. Uh,
and let them just live with me for six months.
I want them to walk six months in my shoes
(41:52):
and then then say, oh, you know what, turns out
that's way better than I thought it was. You know
what for scratch, I don't want to do that. Don't
let anybody live with me, and nobody comes with me.
Maybe I'll meet somebody in Maui. That's what we should do.
Somebody's devastated by the fire, the fires in Maui a
(42:12):
few years ago. We should we should just take care
of one person.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I like that because it's always like, oh, oh, we
donated to whatever, and it's like it's just spread too thin.
I don't have enough money to make it like actually helpful.
But if we just pick one person and it's like here,
let's let's make your holidays better. Oh you know what
else I've wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I've always wanted to rent a truck and fill it
with turkeys and uh for Thanksgiving and then go to
a real nice neighborhood and give them out.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Hey, that bitch of nice, that bit you. They'd like
free turkeys too.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Frozen ones are live, know the live turkeys. If you
really want this turkey, you're gonna have to work for it.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well, yeah, and let me tell you something about killing
a live turkey.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You don't want to let it know that you're killing them,
because then that their meat tenses up. I think you
want to You want to sneak up on them samurai
style and just swing, because the last thing you want
before they die, you don't want their adrenaline to go
flying through their muscles. I don't know if that's true
or not, but I think I heard that once on
some show that was disgusting. All right, another bedtime story
(43:20):
from my son. I see you guys next week.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
All right, go ahead, what's upon time in this so
away planet? Like they riddle atronauts? They waded to the
knowing tame so what they needed to tall? Where the
water is sip? They brated to dot and ten oh
(43:46):
blow They said, And then the anaut waded and waded.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
And then the wai tame.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
So so anybody I didn't how accept the mulder beasts,
and they mild up beasts. But then sire and and
he brooded siah out. And there was a time the
dragged he were purple with flight on him always. Then
(44:23):
then when there were night time, he he got out
of bed. He got out, he went outside, and there were.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The beast of.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
It was told it was told him preezing beasts, and
that presently blew him and told him into assat you
but this, and then he told back, and then he
woved bow, and then missile beast flew away. Yeah, and
(44:57):
then the aftronaut waited and wait they did, and then
they saw another one to sip with the TV caten.
And then they got wrote and put to the astronaut.
They didn't know they were their titty tatten that the
atronaut and then the season whistled loudly, and then and
(45:22):
then and then so away to the rest to the
sull says, and then then and and then they all
went to bed.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
The end
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