October 8, 2024 • 52 mins
RHONJ’s John Fuda joins the Eds and doesn’t hold anything back.
From getting involved with the drama, to unveiling the truth about certain accusations, John shares it all.
There is still no word on what is happening to the cast of RHONJ, but would he want Rachel to return if she got asked?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave
the husband's know best at two Cheese Production. All right, guys,
welcome to another podcast of The EDS here with my
co host Edwin, and we are going to interview John Fuda.
(00:21):
John Fuda is married to the Real Housewives of New
Jersey cast member Rachel Fuda. John is a husband, father,
and business owner in New Jersey. And today we get
to know more about John off Reality TV. Really excited
about that. They do have three kids, Jayden, Gianella and Juliana.
(00:42):
Did I say those right?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes? You did?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, And here's a surprise. They're expecting a fourth. We're
super excited for you, man, that's so cool. John and
Rachel joined the Housewives in twenty twenty three, so we're
excited to get the perspective from a newer house husband.
Well it's still fresh, you know. Welcome John Fuda.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hey, you know what, thank you guys for having me.
Happy to be a part of the Edge show. Let's
do it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, congratulations John on the fourth kid, and welcome to
the club. I got four. Four is a good number.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
By the way, what changes anything.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, you know, the thing that changes the most I
think for the fourth one, you're not as like you
tend to leave the fourth one behind a little longer
than you did your first one, right and your second
one and your third one, because you're like, all right,
this one's going to be on. We called mine. She
got red shirted for like the first year because you know,
(01:42):
she's just we couldn't take her anywhere whereas our first one.
I mean we were taking her to dinner at nine pm.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The fourth one, it's like, oh, you're staying behind. You're
staying behind. And I don't think we started taking her
out there. She was like eighteen months, so she was
a true, true COVID baby.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Wow, so different because I have you know, with having
my son, Jaden's going to be eighteen, right, I have
an eighteen year old, a four year old, a two
and a half ye old, and about to have a newborn.
It's just different. Like I was looking at colleges yesterday
with them. We took them to look at some colleges
and it's just like, wow, it's a reality check for sure.
I have two different age groups going on here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, you definitely hit the reset button. And so John
tell us about so before Housewives. What was your childhood like.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
My childhood?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, so you grew up in Jersey, right, how was that, John?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, so I grew up in Jersey. Family business Italians.
We're in the tile industry. I started I was laying tile,
my family selling tile.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Then I got into the parking industry and to my
business and then just kind of grinded. Man, wanted to
build a family. I found the perfect you know, found
the perfect girl for me, started building the family, and
also she accepted my son, which is not that easy, right,
but she took him on her own. That was a
big thing. And you know, from there we had our
kids and started building our lifestyle. Man. Then all of
(03:06):
a sudden, the Jersey Housewives came in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, so tell us about your siblings. Do you have
any siblings?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I do. I have one brother, one brother.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, what was it like growing up with a brother
in Jersey?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I have one step brother and maybe a couple of
those that I don't know about yet.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But so you had a big family growing up typical Italian?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, typical time. One immediate brother. I do have
a step brother. And then, like I said, but we're
not that close to him.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So you grew up John, So you grew up selling
tile Teresa says you were selling some other stuff. She
was claiming you were the biggest drug dealer at one
point in Brigan County or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Listen, this comment is so crazy, right because when you
take like a larger drug dealer, right, you look up
articles and you see teasers of truckloads, allots of cocaine
and marijuana. I'm like, how could you even say that? Right,
I got arrested. I think I had eleven or twelve
grams on me at the time of marijuana, which is
now we go, by the way, And one of the
coolest things that came out of that comment is how
(04:14):
many people offer me a partnership and marijuana license. Now, So,
I had no idea when I was a juvenile I
got in trouble. But I have first right to marijuana
licenses in the state of New Jersey because I got
in trouble when I was younger. I have first right
to any licenses here in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Wow, So did you take up any of those potential partnerships.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I didn't because I was afraid to after that comment
and who knows what would it came next, you know, So.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's a valid comment, that's a totally valid When we
got into the cannabis business, we had an opportunity to
get into the marijuana side, the medical marijuana side, and
it was right before the Farm Bill was passing twenty
eighteen for CBD and talking to some of the potential
partners that we were talking about, you know, getting into
business with, you know, they mentioned, you know, there's a
(05:02):
little side effect here that you might need to watch out.
You know, we are going into competition with the cartels,
so it's a little dangerous. You know. It's not like
you're not just dealing with the Feds. You're dealing with
the cartels. And if you ever you know, if you
ever watch those movies, they don't take it lightly. So wait,
we chickened out.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That comment made it seem like I was the cartel, Right,
it's like you're the largest I'm like, whoa relaxed there,
you know what I mean, Like, that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, And you know what we're gonna We're gonna get
into how that all transpires. Because in my experience, you know,
I've been on the show for many years. The women
will do anything to hurt the other women on the show,
and if they can't get to those women, they will
attack their family, including the kids and husband, right. And
(05:50):
I think that's just low blow, trashy way of conducting themselves, honestly.
I mean, the husband's okay, you know, they're fair game
because they are on TV, but kids should be off
limits completely. So I've been accused of many things, but
the reality is, John, that's all they can come up with.
You know, it's that bad, right, you know. I mean,
(06:14):
we're not stealing money from people. We're not going to
jail for a year. You know, we're not you know,
we're not the real criminals here. So it just blows
my mind how these people deflect and come up with
bullshit about their husbands when they can, you know, attack
the wife anymore. And I assume that's kind of what
happened with you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right they I think with me, you know, I got
a scarlet letter, I call it. I think there was
a purpose intention to scar me. And I think that
you have this platform where people follow and listen to you,
and you use it to your advantage to hurt somebody. Well,
I mean you've been on the show for how long now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Gosh, I think something like twelve years.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Maybe you've got some time served.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, served my time, man. And I'm at the
point where I don't care because the reality is, John,
I don't have those kind of skeletons in my closet.
I'm not perfect, you know. I've done some stupid shit
in my life, but I've never robbed anybody. I've never
been investigated by the FBI or even gone to jail.
You know, I am not a crook. And for these
people to come after us, men who have legitimate business,
(07:23):
you know, just want to support our wives on the
show and claim all these you know, stupid allegations when
they themselves are exactly what they're claiming to be right
or not to be. It just it just irks me,
and it questions the whole why are we on this
reality TV show?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But before we go that far, let's go back to
the beginning. John. I want to know, I want to
know your story on how you were cast for The
Real Housewives in New Jersey and did you have any
any knowledge of the show before you were a cast member?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Of course, well, I definitely had knowledge, right, So Joe
bought tyle for me for the show. I knew of
the show. Actually, one of my mom's friends is one
of Teresa's bankruptcy attorneys who helped take the time, So
there's a lot of connection to the show. But frank
(08:15):
was a friend of ours. Brittany, his future wife was
a friend of my wife. Of course we knew about
the show. Was not really something I geared towards being on,
to be honest with you, we moved up to Franklin Lake's.
There was jokes from people like I gotta be on
that show. I'm like, yeah, okay, let me the hell alone,
you know. And you know, one day, I guess they
reached out to my wife on Instagram, and you know, look,
(08:39):
I think at that point, my wife was pregnant. She
was home all day. You know, Rachel's trying to like
she really wants to do her own thing and kind
of have her own thing, right. So as a supportive husband,
my god, I'm always gonna support my wife. So I
stupid least like, yeah, whatever you want, go ahead and apply,
you know, like to see what they say. I just
didn't think it would go anywhere. And I remember, because
(09:01):
I was eating the bowl of cereal. You know, I
was eating the boat cinnamon the cereal, right, and I'm like, yeah,
go ahead and see what they say. This is kind
of like grubbing it off growing up here, I am,
you know what I mean. But we knew about it.
We went to the whole process. I think we were
a perfect fit because I think New Jersey is probably
one of the hardest shows to cast for. So I
guess we were a perfect fit from when I was
(09:22):
told and then we embarked in our inventure. Man, you know,
the first year. To be honest, a lot of people
don't realize that Louie used to reach out to me
at the beginning. I used to talk to everybody, including Louis.
We would have phone calls about economies and business and
things like that, and we would just talk like normal,
you know. And I was buddies were Joey still because
(09:43):
our kids.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And this was before the show.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This was the first year on the show. Season for the.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
First year on the show. Okay, so you guys were buddies.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I was friends with Gorgo's before the show because
the kids hunt up. Yeah, so the kids did hang out.
We were friends. Oh did give me a warning. He
tried to give me a warning, but it was very,
very filtered by the way there was a lot of
mask on his warning. I wish it was a little
bit more clear, but yeah, no, we did it. And
(10:12):
I used to talk to everybody in the beginning and
then towards the end of season thirteen and obviously that's
when it really parted ways.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny you say that. I've only had
a couple of husbands come up to me before they
joined the cast. And there's just one thing I always
reiterate to every single a one, and don't get involved
in the drama, and definitely don't go head to head
with the housewives because we have no control even though
we're right, even though we are innocent, we don't have
(10:41):
any control over the edit, so they're always going to
edit it so the housewife looks great and the guys
are never gonna look good. So I know that you've
been involved and you went to head to head with Teresa,
and I understand she was making these false allegations and
all that. I can't imagine having to deal with something
(11:01):
like that, But that's always been my my take on this,
like just stay out of it. Let them talk, let
them come up with some bullshit and let's it's illegal
and damaging, you know, not true, Let them talk out
of their ass, right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well that listen, when I I did not want to
really get involved, to be honest, right, but I kind
of have no choice but to get involved the way
I felt. First off, I have Jen aiding alluding to
the fact that I use sex toys and whatnot. Then
I have her alluding to the fact that I sell drugs.
So it's like, listen, you're really coming after my manhood, right,
Like you're really trying to piss me off. Now, couldn't
(11:35):
just let me be made a couple of times, call
me ugly, call me whatever. I laugh about it, right, Yeah,
but you know, once you did that, I'm going to
defend myself like any normal person would. And I just
suspended myself. And I you know, I think one of
the reasons why I handled it so well, and I
think the reason it went in my direction is because
I was honest with everybody. I'm just right out. This
is what you see is what you get with me?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah? Yeah, no, I mean obviously you had no nothing
to hide or defend. Right, It's not like any of
that was true anyways. So it's easy to defend that,
but it's it's harder when you're actually under investigation or
you actually went to jail to say.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Innocent, right, right, right, because you know you've got that
in your background. Yeah, it's not that easy. You know,
you brought up a really good point about the way
we are edited as men, right because a lot of
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we don't. There's no control over to yet it right.
A lot of people don't realize that. You know, you
film a lot and some of it makes the cut
and some of it doesn't, but you don't have any
control of where they start and stop things. But you know,
I feel like I've gotten I've had some good edits.
To be honest with you, I think a lot of
the truth was told and what I was doing, and
I'm kind of happy for that. I can't really complain
(12:58):
too much, but I get how a lot of feel
like they didn't get a good.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Adic right right on. One. Another thing that I want
to mention about that is the biggest lesson I learned
about being on a reality TV show is that the
camera is very transparent. You can try unless you're a
really good a list professional actor, the camera, we'll see
right through you. And there's a lot of characters on
the show that I didn't know before the show, but
(13:23):
filming with them and then watching them on TV, I'm like, yeah,
that guy's a scumbag.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I didn't see it coming, But now that I see
it on TV, I'm like, yeah, it makes sense now.
And then if you're at all interested, you just google
their name. You're like, yeah, scumbag, you know. So the
reality is is if you have nothing to defend, then
you're then you just have to clear up your name.
And that's all you did, right You Just Hey, I'm
(13:49):
not here to fight with you. I'm just here to
say this is who I really am.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So right, Like, I don't sell drugs. I didn't make
my living on selling drugs. I have nothing to hide,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it was easy for
me to do.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I couldn't help.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But hear the sex toys? What was that all about?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You got accuse me? I don't even understand how that
came out? What's that deal? Bro? Allegedly there's this thread
I like purple dildos that was like this this thread
that came out from my ex. You know, first off,
anyone who has an ex most likely didn't end off
in well terms. Like there's not a lot of exes
that talk well about each other right now, especially when
(14:28):
you get full stole custody of a kid. You're not.
It's not like, oh yeah, he's amazing, he's a wonderful
guy that no custody of the kid. She hates my guts.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. So is it is it true or a rumor
that she is actually incarcerated?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She she was incarcerator. I believe she was recently let out.
Oh okay, yeah, she recently got out. She was incarcerated.
You know, she made some tough choices that got her
to where she was in life. Yeah, she was a
beautiful girl when I'm better man, she really it was
a beautiful girl. But just unfortunately life gives you decisions
to make and she made some bad ones and I
(15:05):
had to make different decisions at that time to protect
you know, the child we had, and I did the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah. How long were you a single dad before you
met Rachel oh Man?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was a single dad from I would say two
thousand and seven to two thousand and fourteen, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, Wow, that's a long time.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, man, listen, I enjoyed myself, you know, I definitely
I had my son and I would go out and
my mother helped me out a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
She would watch him when I go out at night,
spend a whole day, hang out with my son a
little bit, and then go go out at night. Do it.
Do what young people do, right, and then wake up,
go to work and see to see the kid before
he goes to school. Go to work and do your thing.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, that was a long time. Mine was only three weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Meeting Kenny three weeks after, but we we did.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That just happened him like three weeks later. I thought
I was going to be single for like ten years
at least before, but in lasted three weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, I had to listen. I didn't want to rush
into anything. I wanted to really enjoy and get, you know, experiment,
and I did. I took my time, and I really
knew what I wanted when I met my wife.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So what was one of the most challenging things being
a single dad?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Most challenging things I guess this. You know, he didn't
really have a mother to at a younger age to
kind of learn some of those qualities that would be
the most because Rachel really when she met him, there
was a lot of work that had to be done
with therapists and stuff, and we really had to get
him some of those qualities to where he needed to be.
(16:48):
As far as me as a man, by far, I
loved it. I would go out, I have my son,
I had everything I need to hung out with this one.
I hung out with that one and never introduced anybody
to my son.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was like, this is gonna add Did you ever
like use them as bait?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Na?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
No? Never as much as easy as it could have been. Right,
this is a puffy dog is a little easier because
there's no feelings for a puppy.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But that's hilarious, awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Hey, by the way, John, so obviously you your family business, right,
Uh it was just food a tile, So you you
were selling towels for a long time, and it's obviously
you your family has had that for a long time.
And then you've had your ballet business.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Right. Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Before the show came on, were you were you concerned
at all that it was going to affect your family
business and your own business at all? The data ever
crossed your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh yeah, So it crossed my mind a lot, right,
So at first I thought it would affect it. Then
I said, hey, it's gonna help because a lot of
people in the future field that I might relate and
you know, might want to connect with it. Of course,
to the comment of being a drug deal to not
help my case at all, but that's anything and amplified
it and made it harder. But at this point, you know,
(18:02):
we're operating, we're seeing it through. We had a little
bit of a hit during that time, and we're able
to recover a lot because we do do a great
service of what we do, and we got back on
our feet.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So tell us about how you started your company. How
did that come about? You're working with the family and
a What did you learn most about who was your
mentor in the food A taw And then how did
you decide to branch off and do your own thing
and start your ballet company which is a very successful
company out there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So I learned obviously from my family. I had my
uncle Frank, I had my grandfather. When I was younger,
I lived in Florida for a little bit with my father.
I learned construction at that point but I learned how
to really install tile build construct at a very young age.
I liked it wasn't bad, but there was a lot
of competition in the space. It really was, and I
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was young, so it'd be hard to get jobs. People
didn't trust giving you the money. So in twenty thirteen,
I said to myself, I got to do something different.
So many hands in this family business, I don't see
where this is going to go. So I started working,
like doing valet at night because there was hot chicks
that would go into the restaurants. You get to drive
nice cars. I'm like, this is great. You know, you
can make a couple of bucks before you know what
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I had. You know, I had a few accounts that
I was running in the restaurant business, and that was
what you know is standard valet. Obviously, you know a
lot of people are like, ohways in the valet business.
They think that's what I do for a living. That
is only like the restaurant aspect of it, which eventually
you grow out. Now I service car dealerships, we do hospitals,
we do residential buildings, and we service not only valet attendants,
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but we service concierge concierge, janitorial, So we do so
many more aspects than just a valet and now you
know we're a nice buy's company.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well what would you tell someone that maybe as young
as their own ballet business, but right now it's just restaurants?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
What made you? What did it click for you? Like
a minute, I could make this a lot bigger and
I could branch off and do way bigger things. What
was a catalyst moment for you?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So I actually I do tell people. I still get
people that ask me, no matter what business I'm in,
because I'm in a few different always wait three years.
Everybody gets in business, they jump in, they don't make
money in a year, and they want to get out,
they want to abandon shit. The first year is the
hardest year. The second year you start to you know,
you build it to where you need it. In the
third year usually you see the reward. So I always say,
(20:29):
if you're going to do something, give it three years.
So if I had to advise anybody on a business
and what they were getting into, I would definitely say
research it, get your technology in order, learn all your
local labor laws, because my business have a ton of
laws regarding employment. Learn all those laws and just wait
three years. Man, don't give up till three years is done.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I like good advice.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, the number three, the number three.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
What's the toughest part of what you do?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You think the toughest part about what I do is
dealing with personality. So I deal with the client, I
deal with the employee. Now there's a lot of labor
laws out there now that make the job a little harder.
And then you have to go to the client to
get more money. You know, obviously pay for more things
that they're offering as a law, and that's what makes
it harder for fund the equal balance to do.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So, by the way, is Jersey like Cali, where like
the other day I was driving on the freeway and
I kid you not, I took a two hour drive
and then I just started seeing billboards and all of
them are lawyers. Like it got my attention. I'm like, oh, shoot,
every billboard is a freaking lawyer like that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, Jersey is just like that, but not as bad
as Calie. Cali has to be one of the worst
states to employ people in. It is. It is something else,
it really is. But I mean, look, that's just the
world we're living right, Guys like, look, yeah, a world.
I don't know. You both can remember five years ago,
just before COVID how different it was to what is now.
(22:01):
You know, just being in business is a whole different
ballgame right now. Yeah, there's so many people that are
going in business for themselves, you know, they're Grooper really
changed a lot in the game. But there's so many
I would say, migrants and people that are basically going
in business for themselves competing and they're not they're not
paying the right insurances, they're not doing things right, and
(22:22):
you're you're stuck competing against that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean that's the best. The bottom line is,
you know, I've learned throughout my business career there's always
going to be those that break the law and seem
to be getting away with it. You know, they might
advertise illegally and claim make claims that are not true
and get the business, get the customers, and ultimately they
(22:44):
fail because they don't deliver on their promise or what
they're selling. Right. So I always say, it's it's not
a matter of if, it's a matter of when they
get caught and their business is going to be under
And I noticed kind of a pattern as well with
those same people that do that kind of crap. They
start a business, they get their money, then they bankrupt it,
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and then they go up and open up another business
and do the same shit it over and over and over,
and eventually it'll catch up to them, maybe, like the
FBI will catch up to them. But you know, it's
just it makes it hard for legitimate businesses to not
only you know, maintain the validity of the industry, like
the cannabis industry especially right now. Right we have a
(23:25):
lot of competition with a lot of fake products out
there that say, you know, this is cannabis, and then
it hurts the industry. Even though we're doing everything diligent,
providing quality ingredients and quality products, doing all the testing
and everything and giving the customer exactly what we say
is in our product, there's other companies out there that
are not providing any of that, and it hurts the
(23:48):
industry overall. So that irks me and I hate that,
But that's the reality of business in America, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, it really is. That you just spelled it out perfectly. Now,
there's always going to be guys around us in business
that are always looking to raise capital. I always that's
a red flag whenever I hear that, what do you
need money for it? And then all of a sudden
they're starting business to putting it into some other type
of their business and stealing the money that way. So
I always looked out for those people. And then you
(24:19):
get you know, if someone needed a loan or whatever
and you can't go to a bank, it's a huge
red flag. And I feel so bad for business people
that I talk to and people it's like, oh, I
loan money to this person to help them start a business,
and I haven't seen him return in two years and
they haven't shown me anything. What can I do? What
can you do? I mean, what what's mattered? Every quarter?
(24:41):
You should be looking for a statement. And if that
statement is not there, how did you guarantee to your loan.
There's so many things that I feel bad for that
I sit and I'm like, you loan money to who
for what? And I don't loan money to family. I
don't help. I don't know. I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's a giveaway for money for family. You you just
don't expect it back.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, I don't. I don't do that. Yeah, You'll never
get it back.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeh, I never get it back.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Hey, John, tell us about glamorous studios and you what
made you want to partner up with Joe?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
What made me want to partner with the Gorgas?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, everybody says to the partner with the Gorga and
they got screwed or some business deal went bad. Right,
So I guess I challenge the ultimate, right. I was like,
you know what, I want to go at this now.
I'm just kidding around. So me and Joe are really
good friends. Look, I'm in this phase now where passive
income is my new thing, all right. I just want
(25:44):
to create passive income. And the way I explained it
all I was like, I want to build rivers, and
those rivers are going to feed the bay, and I
want those rivers to constantly flow. So you know, I
have a billable hour river that's flowing. I have a
couple of rental units, and I'm building that river that's flowing.
And I wanted to expand. So going into glan Slon
Studios is basically the space that I think is thriving. Right.
(26:08):
Everybody wants to be in business for themselves now, so
why not take a larger space, subdivided, give them the
ability to be in business for themselves. Now both of
our wives. I have people in and out of my
house daily, and all I do is I talk to
these people because that's just who I am, the personality.
I talked to everybody. How you doing? We just start?
Had you come up? You know? And I talked to
(26:28):
all these beauty exeditions and I just hear the story
and I'm like, you know what, this is a great idea.
I started fishing around. There was a buddy who was
doing it where I was going to invest in them
with him. Something turned me off about investing with them,
so I decided that that wasn't the route to go.
So me and Joe decided at that point, hey, let's
just do it ourselves. You know, it's just I'm We're
(26:50):
going to go for it. See what we could turn
it into. He's got the construction background. I have some
of it. We could turn this into a money maker.
Why not let's try it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well, tell us about the business. What is it?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So what it is is it's basically subdivided studios. So
we took a larger space. We subdivided it. Now, if
you're in the business of waxing people. Right, I got wax.
So here you go, there's a wax studio. This is
I'm going to give Joe his own wax studio. This
you go wax away in there, right, But you want
to wax people, and you want to bring your clients there.
(27:21):
You pay us, you know, weekly, and then you're able
to bring your clients there. So now it's ay least
from us yearly, but it's just distributed weekly. And now
if they have a client base, they can bring them
there and they can use it as their studio. If
they are a eyebrow waxer, they do eyebrow waxing, we're tattooing.
You can rent a studio from us if you do hair.
(27:42):
And you don't want to work for a beauty salon
because a lot of these girls, you don't realize they're
working for these salons and they're getting they're given all
their money to the Salona arm. You wouldn't believe how
much the cut is. Where they're all going in business
for themselves at this point. And I mean, I'm sure
you guys see it. You got hair and makeup in
your house every day, you see what going on you know,
they're bringing everything to people's homes at this point just
(28:04):
to make the money, So why not give them a
studio space and then people can come to the studio. Yeah,
so that's really what it is. It's basically you've got
boat talks. Come there. Now. Even if you're a doctor
and you need a strings office comes see, yes, we
got you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So you're building the infrastructure, the real estate infrastructure around it.
So these folks have an economical way of conducting their
business without you know, breaking the bank. When it comes
to having your own brick and mortar, right, well.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Think about it. To open a beauty salon, you have
to go out, you have to lease the space, you
have to put a security deposit down. Once you do that,
now you have to do a build out, right, You
got to build a whole place out. So if you
only need one chair really for yourself, and you have
to build four or five chairs and then go and
hire and manage employees. A lot of people don't want
to deal with that. They want to work for themselves,
(28:57):
but they don't want to deal with that. So our
salon suites give them the ability to work for themselves,
manage their own schedule. Have their own suite and that's it.
They don't have to put the money out to really
go crazy and build this whole place.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So is it like a Regius but for beauty right?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We work are Regius, but it's all beauty space nice.
So it's interesting, you know, But it's about trying things.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So our next episode we're going to talk about what
Eddie and I do for beauty that would actually work
for us. We could actually go to one of your
salons if you open one in California.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What's your beauty routine? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You just get a wait for the other episode. Yeah,
we'll talk about that at the next episode for sure.
But we want to we really want to just make
this about you and and learn as much as we
can about you. John, I'd like to talk a little
(29:59):
bit more about the me experience Ed and I Edwin
and I Can I.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Call you Ed because yeah, yeah, so Ed and I
we we've experienced it good and bad, and we've shared
our experience on the show and with some examples. Can
you tell us a little bit about what do you
like and what you dislike about filming reality TV? Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So one of the one of the things I like is,
you know, obviously your wife is happy. You see her happy, right,
And you get to meet people and you get to
do with some of the some very interesting things that
you probably wouldn't really do every day. Right. You get
to go to certain events, you get to do things,
you get put on a pedestal a little bit, you
get reservations easy, you get hooked up. But I think
(30:44):
some of the most challenging things I have is being
a guy on The Real Housewives New Jersey. It's almost
like you're a main cast member, but you're not right
because you're not a housewife technically, right, But your whole
life is on TV, your whole kids are on TV,
and you have people that are blowing you up on
social media. Right. Social media is the playground for everybody
to have their opinion, right, like, oh, you're involving yourself
(31:07):
too much, or you're this, or you're that, And it's
very easy to have an opinion. It's very easy to
have an opinion until you're the person that's being judged constantly.
You know, But I just don't care, so it doesn't
bother me. But you know, when you're thinking in the
moment and you're like, Okay, well I did it this way.
You don't really have so much time to really think
about the best way to do it. Sometimes this is
(31:28):
not scripted, you know, you just freestyleing off the cup.
And I didn't go to school being in a reality
TV And I'm a business dude. I'm in a valet
business and tile business. You know, I'm not in theater
at all art, you know. So I don't like you know,
there's a lot of things going on on social media,
and there's a lot of people that kind of rip
our lives apart as if we're toys and then actually
(31:50):
in a play chess and we're really not. I don't
like our kids involved, you know. I don't like when
people bring the kids into it. The kids are there,
they're part of our life, but they shouldn't be subject
to comments on social media things that are going on
that's out of bounce. You know, you totally now, Yeah,
my son doesn't need to you know, people are signed
(32:10):
him Bilbo pictures and this and that, and then you're
trying to tell me how to parent at the same time. No,
you know, it's very simple. I don't like, as a guy,
you just don't get any recognition. Your whole life is
being broadcast and you get no recognition to really say it.
I don't even have a confessional moment where I can
even defend myself most of these times. Right, some of
(32:32):
the other guys can get that, but I get ripped
apart on season fourteen. I don't even have the ability
to say, hey, this is my version of what and
this is how this happened. I don't have that platform. Yeah,
so I don't like that. Other than that, it's not bad,
you know, it's just when the Housewives says something about
a guy, you don't really have the defense that you
(32:53):
should have.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Right, No, it's it's hard, especially when they're making a
fabricated lies about you, whatever they may be. You know,
it's it's how do you defend the lie? You just
ignore it. It has no legs, it's got no validity,
and you can say whatever you want until you break
the law. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna engage with you, right,
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go there. I mean,
(33:16):
I can't tell you how many times I just wanted
to blow up and you know, go to the media
and tell my side of the story or or retaliate
if you will. But it really just becomes a waste
of my time when I could be doing some so
much other stuff, you know, more productive stuff, then defending
myself on a reality TV show which I have no
(33:38):
control of.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, right, And then it it just gets to a
point though where it's like whatever, it's only it's it's
a reality TV show and it's not real life. This
is ridiculous. And I think men process a little different
than women. Do you get angry about it, You go
to the gym, you work it off, and I think
you kind of just you know, move on with your day. Yeah.
I do think, and I'm a strong advocator for you know,
(34:02):
I do think there should be a men's time out,
or a men's show or men's vacation. I think that
there's so much the guys get along. Obviously in Vegas
we had a great time. We get along. There's so
much more to learn about the guys. And I think
that the guys tend to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And I think that, Yeah, I was just going to
say that the biggest difference about the Jersey men's cast
versus all the franchises, and I don't watch all of them.
I barely even watch mine. My experience on my own
cast is I don't know these guys from Adam. And
There's been very few, maybe three guys in the entire
(34:37):
twelve years that I've filmed that I've actually liked the
guys on the other on the cast, you know, Terry
Burrow being one, Shane being another, David deb Or, David Badoor,
you know, very few guys. The rest of them sketchy,
you know, like I don't want anything to do with them,
zero to do with them, and and like, and that's
(34:57):
the problem I have with being on a show where
I can you know, I don't know these people. I
don't want to know these people. But even if I did,
I wouldn't trust to tell them anything because you never
know what's going to be shown on TV, right, or
what they're going to bring up for whatever reason? Right, Yeah,
I don't know who. Do you think Edwin well?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
No, I tend to agree. It's it's tough. I think
the Jersey guys do a good job of like really
hanging out and stuff, but it is hard to what
do you tell? How much could you tell a cast
member because they could tell the wife and then the
wife turns around and blows you up on TV. Right, So, uh,
you just to your point, you never know, And I
(35:44):
think that's what makes it a little harder for the
guys to like really kind of hang out. Uh is
that I think most won't admit it, but I think
deep down it's kind of hard to hang out because
of that because you just don't know. That's when when
I mean, I haven't seen it, but you saw it.
Maybe you see it, Eddie, But typically once you stop filming,
you're not really hanging out.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Again, I think the Jersey guys do a good job
of that, but I think everyone else I haven't really
seen anybody really hang out after filming.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Like that was my point I was trying to make,
is that the Jersey guys are different when it comes
to the show. Because you guys all get along, most
of you get along.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You got to make sure you say most of us.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, because you know. And in my opinion, this is
just my opinion, it's all revolving around Joe Gorga, who's
the life of the party, totally down to earth cool guy.
We had him on our podcast and We really enjoyed
his energy and his story. And from day one I
got along with Joe because he's just such a cool
cat and he just wants to have a good time.
(36:47):
You know, he's not attacking the guys. He's just I mean,
he wants to be on stage and he's good. He's
got charismatic charisma up the yin yang and he's had
your own show at the Bravo Calm last year. It's
just phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, you guys are enjoying it
and having fun, and I do admire that, but we
(37:09):
we don't have any of that in my in my franchise.
I don't think you have that edwin like that kind
of connection. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's not it's
not something that is common in the Housewives show. But
you guys definitely stand out. And when I hung out
with you guys, gave me the opportunity to hang out
with you guys at probably Con, I really enjoyed myself
(37:32):
and there was no pressure, there was no like I'm
trying to be somebody I'm not and and it was cool.
I really enjoyed hanging out with you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
No, you hit it best we just all, you know,
we all want to have a good time, not just
we all want to just have a good time, laugh
and have a good time go home. That's that is
Like even tonight Joe and Frank they got a comedy show.
I'll probably go there at some point tonight or tomorrow
and bust their chops in the audience.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Have fun.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's just we have a good camaraderie. Again, not all
of us, but before there's four of us that have
a really close relationship.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, Joe's doing comedy now, Yeah, I got to keep
up with him.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, he does it all. I'm telling you, he's been
doing comedy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
And actually he's pretty funny, man, I give him that.
You know, he's pretty funny. But I mean, look, Joe's
a great guy. I know him on a different level.
I mean since I got in this show, he took
me right underneath his wedding. Could have could have steered
me in the wrong direction. There was no jelus here,
any of that steered me in the right direction. We're
boys who are friends to his day. Just have fun
(38:36):
with it, That's all I can say. Man, I have
fun with it. There's good days and bad you know.
There's some days but the internet's blowing up and it
just like, what the hell did I do this for?
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, Eventually, like.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Anything else, you outgrow it. I think that's that's the
best word. Eventually. It's like I would either run in
their mouth again, so be it. Like I heard, you know,
Kenny and was just doing a podcast running her mouth
about my family. Yeah, go ahead if you need to
talk about me that bad.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I feel bad because we're not talking. I don't
really give a shit about your people. Yeah, that's how
I call it. I really don't give us to it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And I think that's another really good point we want
to bring up is that the show is a show,
and even though it is reality TV, it's still a production.
It's still edited, and it's still designed to create a
story and a show for what it's worth. Taking it
outside of the filming days and the airing days and
(39:30):
making this a personal attack on your social media or however,
just anything outside of the Bravo curtain. It should be
off limits. You know. It's like you go to work.
Let's say you're a lawyer. You go to work, you
practice law, and then you leave it at the office. Right,
sometimes you take it home, but it's here. You're not
broadcasting it to the world to say, this is the
(39:53):
biggest case I'm working on, and I'm going to tell
everybody what's going on, because then you'd lose the case.
But the point is keep it in the TV realm,
don't take it outside of this and make it that
much more personal than it has to be. And I
get it. Some people have to defend their lies, but
you know, the truth is the truth and will always prevail.
(40:13):
The truth will always prevail.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I also think some people just need to do that
to build who they are, you know, And I don't
think unless you have somebody to take down, you have nothing.
There's some people that are like that in the world, right.
I know a lot of people that they have to
rip people apart to build themselves up.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, it's it's kind of their character. But some would
argue that my wife falls into that category. But she
just tells the truth, you know, she just calls out
the truth. She's not making up lies. She's not pretending that.
You know that. You know, she won't say anything that's
not true about you. She might get a little crazy,
but she doesn't, you know, make lies up.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Except yep, I thought your wife's awesome. Man, I'm pretty
good judge of character, but I thought I thought she's
a great girl.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
She is is. I love her as well.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I like them both.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, and they're very they're very famous on their podcasts.
They're really happy with themselves because you know, they're killing it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I like what you guys did to turn it, you know,
with you guys. I like that as well.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
By the way, John, with with with everything being so
divided with New Jersey and you know, everybody kind of
just do you if Rachel were to come back, I mean,
is she coming back? And if she gets the call
to come back, would you tell her not to or.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, yeah, I'm gonna use Joe when you're already pregnant.
You're already pregnant, right, so we're already pregnant for the
most part. That's how he says it. But my thing is,
we're already in the water, just seep right. Yeah. I'm
not saying we wouldn't get out, and I'm not saying
that we would. We'd have to feel it out and
(42:06):
see what the rest of the circle looks like. And
you know, if you feel like you're going to be
in another toxic circle, then at some point you'd got
to walk away, right, you don't want to You're I'm
going to do something where it continues to affect you
in your career and stuff like that. If it's toxic, now,
if it makes sense and it's fun and there could be,
you know, something good that comes out of it and
people can have a good time, then yeah, it makes
(42:27):
sense to continue.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I like that answer, and I'll add to that. I
think it's you know, in reality in the real world,
if I find out that I'm in a circle of criminals,
I'm going to get out right. I don't want to
be around that, and not because I hold myself at
a higher standard, but because I don't want to risk
(42:51):
my family being surrounded by that, you know. And that's
one of the issues I have with reality TV is
they're glorifying all this illegal transactions and illegalities of reality TV. Right,
Why are they getting so much attention if they're doing
something illegal? It doesn't make any sense to me. So
(43:11):
my answer would be, you know, if we're going to
surround us with a bunch of criminals, I'm out. I
don't want anything to do with that. But because in real
life I would take my stuff out of that picture easily, right, right,
Like you gotta.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If you see that you got a bunch of criminals
around you, you have to evaluate at that point and
say this is not for me.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, but you know, unfortunately till you get there, you know,
you don't really know what is there season by season.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Right, I mean, I think to that point, if you
are hanging out with a bunch of kids and you
find out one kid you know is stealing and breaking
into cars and you're just there hanging with them, yeah,
you're you're guilty by association, but you learn as a
young kid, I want nothing to do with those people, right,
Because it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Also looks like on you, it looks back because we're associated.
If you don't falk to somebody and you don't want
to mess with them, we're still associated. Yes, we're on
the same show, you know. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah,
I don't like it because it reflects on your character.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
It does, it does, And you know, we spend at
least I know you guys too, We spend most of
our life being as good as a citizen and as
good a person as we can. You know, we're not perfect.
But we do what's right, and and that just has
kept me out of trouble. And I've not done anything
so drastically illegal. You know. God, I haven't got a
(44:36):
speeding ticket in a long time. But I'm gonna knock
on wood right right, you know, good at night, I
sleep very good at night. I don't screw anybody. I
don't steal from people. I you know, if I don't
like something, I just keep my mouth shut and stay
away from it, you know, unless unless it affects my
family and and you know, the people I love. It's
not my business and I'd rather stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
But and that's that's just a man in general. Right
when you start messing with your family and you start,
of course you're gonna piss them off. They're gonna wake
them up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah, So awesome question for you.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That's kind of out there. So just because the New
Jersey girls are a little intimidating, I think, is there
one in particular that you're like, I do not want
to get in a mess with that one?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Interesting question? Is there one that.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
You're just like, Man, this one's too quick, too witted,
like too much wit. I don't even have a chance.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
My wife. Yeah, my wife, good answer. My wife would
be the one. Other than that, that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So the Jersey girls you feel are intimidating. Man.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
I've seen a little bit of them in action, and
I'm like, oh shit, man, I would not want to
get in an argument with one of those.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
There you go. It's funny, man. Jersey is such an
interesting place, so is New York. But they're they're very catty,
that's for sure. Yeah, very caddy.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So, as we come to the end of the discussion here, John,
is there anything else you would like to tell the
listeners about yourself like that you don't want them to know.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I mean, yeah, obviously don't believe in what you're here.
That's just straight out ridiculous. Yeah. But yeah, listen, I
don't like to fight with women. I don't like to
do all that. I'm only in a position where I
have to defend myself and I did.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Other than that, I want not to do any any
of the other ones. You know, unless you attack my family,
I'm going to do what every man does. It's going
to be defend his family. Yeah, but and my children.
You know, I definitely don't think it's right that the
kids deal with stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, that's that's totally low blow. I mean that's trash
when when women do that.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's not just women too, there's some guys
that do it as well. But just come on and
leave the kids out of it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Is, it is so but on that's it, man. You know,
unless you guys have any questions for me. But I'm
an open book. I got nothing to hide, and most
of the viewers know. If there's something they want to know,
shoot me a message. I always answer everybody.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, that's awesome, and I do appreciate the transparency. There's
some questions that were probably hard to answer that you answered,
and man, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.
Congratulations on all the success and keep questioning it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Thank you, Bettie, Thank you. Man. It's only hard if
you've got something to hide. Man, if you've got nothing,
I agree with life. It's easy, man. There's nothing hard
about any of that, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, And to that point, I know that there's not
one person out there that doesn't have at least one
skeleton in the closet. But when you have a freaking
cemetery you should stay off reality TV shows.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, we'll put, We'll put when you're hiring bloggers to
attack people and things like that, like yeah, yeah, you
got to say that there's some crazy people out there. Man.
Some of the things that I have witnessed in the
last year and a half on what was being done
behind the scenes to tarnish me and evidence improved, I'm
(48:12):
still like, whoa, I feel like I'm part of I
want to make a documentary. That's my next thing. I
want to film a documentary next.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah you MANU will tune in?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah right, probably right.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Well, maybe the house franchise will come up with the
Real House Husbands of New Jersey and the Real House
Husbands of Orange County and the Real House Husbands of
Beverly Hills, and we'll have our own show.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
You would not believe how many viewers want to see
a Guys trip. Man. I get told all the time
I hear about it. I don't know why Bravo hasn't
done it. I mean, it's it's very apparent that they
want to see it, so I would just I mean,
it doesn't make any sense as a business not to say, hey,
let's go and do two or three days of film
and let's see how this does as a pilot. I
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think it would make a lot of sense bringing a
lot of the guys from the franchises together and having fun.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah yeah, that could be fun. That could be a
lot of fun. But it goes back to my point.
You know, the Real House that's of Orange County. It's
really a woman's show, a female show. And you know,
I won't leave the gays out because it's a show
for them too. But most mature male, like business driven guys,
(49:23):
they don't sit and watch this show. You know, most
of the guys don't.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So you would think that I had the biggest biker
in ac come up to me a Hell's Angels. My
man was huge. Wow, And I'm like, you watch it? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah,
I love that shit.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
The wives make them watch it.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You shocked, man, how many guys that actually watched the
show addicted?
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Once you start watching it, like, you gotta be careful,
Like I always tell friends, like, I know, you want
to watch one episode, you're gonna get hooked on it.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, it's I do have had that experience John as well,
where Burley guys and and even you know in the beginning.
I told the story in the beginning of our podcast
as well. When we first started dating and we went
to watch What Happens in New York and we were
walking down the Broadway or something. A big fire truck
passed by and they noticed camera, and then they put
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two and two together and they started going crazy, we
love Yeah, And I turned around and I'm like, the
Fireman watch you.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Reality check? Right? Yeah? Oh my god. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, but you know, I personally can't sit and watch
all the cattiness and the fighting and all that. I
do find it interesting. It's quite a phenomenon that this
show has lasted this long. That's more intriguing to me, Like,
how did this show have such long longevity and duration?
And god knows how much money it's generated, you know
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in the last what is it, almost twenty years. That's
more interesting to me than you know, who's fighting with
who and who's calling who out? And you know who's
the criminal this season? You know, it's just right.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Endless. Yeah, there's always been to be families, There's always
gonna be something.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
So yeah, I get it. Always the stery to tell.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's it, man, You know, there really is and I
think there's a lot of life left and off. You know,
as a photo family, we have a lot going on.
You know that they're missing unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah. Yeah, So the show's on pause, right your show?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, pause or whatever they want to call it. Pause.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
I only hear this through my wife because she tells
me a little bit what's going on over there. And
then I just saw Joe in New York and he
was telling me it's on pause. So well, you know,
I wish you guys luck. I hope the show comes
back because Jersey is one of the most entertaining, because
the guys and the girls are both entertaining, and I
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think the viewers would be really lost if they didn't
have Jersey. So I hope you guys come back and
they clean up the show.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Agreed, Let's see Man from your Mouth and God's Ears,
Let's see what happens. John.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
It was great catching up to you and having you
on the pod. It's been a pleasure. I look forward
to catching up next time I see you.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
All right, guys, it was a pleasure being on. Let
me know if there's any questions you
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Guys have after awesome awesome, I'll see you guys later
Thanks John, have a good one.
This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave
the husband's know best at two Cheese Production. All right, guys,
welcome to another podcast of The EDS here with my
co host Edwin, and we are going to interview John Fuda.
(00:21):
John Fuda is married to the Real Housewives of New
Jersey cast member Rachel Fuda. John is a husband, father,
and business owner in New Jersey. And today we get
to know more about John off Reality TV. Really excited
about that. They do have three kids, Jayden, Gianella and Juliana.
(00:42):
Did I say those right?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes? You did?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, And here's a surprise. They're expecting a fourth. We're
super excited for you, man, that's so cool. John and
Rachel joined the Housewives in twenty twenty three, so we're
excited to get the perspective from a newer house husband.
Well it's still fresh, you know. Welcome John Fuda.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hey, you know what, thank you guys for having me.
Happy to be a part of the Edge show. Let's
do it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, congratulations John on the fourth kid, and welcome to
the club. I got four. Four is a good number.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
By the way, what changes anything.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, you know, the thing that changes the most I
think for the fourth one, you're not as like you
tend to leave the fourth one behind a little longer
than you did your first one, right and your second
one and your third one, because you're like, all right,
this one's going to be on. We called mine. She
got red shirted for like the first year because you know,
(01:42):
she's just we couldn't take her anywhere whereas our first one.
I mean we were taking her to dinner at nine pm.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The fourth one, it's like, oh, you're staying behind. You're
staying behind. And I don't think we started taking her
out there. She was like eighteen months, so she was
a true, true COVID baby.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Wow, so different because I have you know, with having
my son, Jaden's going to be eighteen, right, I have
an eighteen year old, a four year old, a two
and a half ye old, and about to have a newborn.
It's just different. Like I was looking at colleges yesterday
with them. We took them to look at some colleges
and it's just like, wow, it's a reality check for sure.
I have two different age groups going on here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, you definitely hit the reset button. And so John
tell us about so before Housewives. What was your childhood like.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
My childhood?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, so you grew up in Jersey, right, how was that, John?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, so I grew up in Jersey. Family business Italians.
We're in the tile industry. I started I was laying tile,
my family selling tile.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Then I got into the parking industry and to my
business and then just kind of grinded. Man, wanted to
build a family. I found the perfect you know, found
the perfect girl for me, started building the family, and
also she accepted my son, which is not that easy, right,
but she took him on her own. That was a
big thing. And you know, from there we had our
kids and started building our lifestyle. Man. Then all of
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a sudden, the Jersey Housewives came in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, so tell us about your siblings. Do you have
any siblings?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I do. I have one brother, one brother.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, what was it like growing up with a brother
in Jersey?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I have one step brother and maybe a couple of
those that I don't know about yet.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But so you had a big family growing up typical Italian?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, typical time. One immediate brother. I do have
a step brother. And then, like I said, but we're
not that close to him.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So you grew up John, So you grew up selling
tile Teresa says you were selling some other stuff. She
was claiming you were the biggest drug dealer at one
point in Brigan County or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Listen, this comment is so crazy, right because when you
take like a larger drug dealer, right, you look up
articles and you see teasers of truckloads, allots of cocaine
and marijuana. I'm like, how could you even say that? Right,
I got arrested. I think I had eleven or twelve
grams on me at the time of marijuana, which is
now we go, by the way, And one of the
coolest things that came out of that comment is how
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many people offer me a partnership and marijuana license. Now, So,
I had no idea when I was a juvenile I
got in trouble. But I have first right to marijuana
licenses in the state of New Jersey because I got
in trouble when I was younger. I have first right
to any licenses here in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Wow, So did you take up any of those potential partnerships.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I didn't because I was afraid to after that comment
and who knows what would it came next, you know, So.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's a valid comment, that's a totally valid When we
got into the cannabis business, we had an opportunity to
get into the marijuana side, the medical marijuana side, and
it was right before the Farm Bill was passing twenty
eighteen for CBD and talking to some of the potential
partners that we were talking about, you know, getting into
business with, you know, they mentioned, you know, there's a
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little side effect here that you might need to watch out.
You know, we are going into competition with the cartels,
so it's a little dangerous. You know. It's not like
you're not just dealing with the Feds. You're dealing with
the cartels. And if you ever you know, if you
ever watch those movies, they don't take it lightly. So wait,
we chickened out.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That comment made it seem like I was the cartel, Right,
it's like you're the largest I'm like, whoa relaxed there,
you know what I mean, Like, that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, And you know what we're gonna We're gonna get
into how that all transpires. Because in my experience, you know,
I've been on the show for many years. The women
will do anything to hurt the other women on the show,
and if they can't get to those women, they will
attack their family, including the kids and husband, right. And
(05:50):
I think that's just low blow, trashy way of conducting themselves, honestly.
I mean, the husband's okay, you know, they're fair game
because they are on TV, but kids should be off
limits completely. So I've been accused of many things, but
the reality is, John, that's all they can come up with.
You know, it's that bad, right, you know. I mean,
(06:14):
we're not stealing money from people. We're not going to
jail for a year. You know, we're not you know,
we're not the real criminals here. So it just blows
my mind how these people deflect and come up with
bullshit about their husbands when they can, you know, attack
the wife anymore. And I assume that's kind of what
happened with you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right they I think with me, you know, I got
a scarlet letter, I call it. I think there was
a purpose intention to scar me. And I think that
you have this platform where people follow and listen to you,
and you use it to your advantage to hurt somebody. Well,
I mean you've been on the show for how long now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Gosh, I think something like twelve years.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Maybe you've got some time served.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, served my time, man. And I'm at the
point where I don't care because the reality is, John,
I don't have those kind of skeletons in my closet.
I'm not perfect, you know. I've done some stupid shit
in my life, but I've never robbed anybody. I've never
been investigated by the FBI or even gone to jail.
You know, I am not a crook. And for these
people to come after us, men who have legitimate business,
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you know, just want to support our wives on the
show and claim all these you know, stupid allegations when
they themselves are exactly what they're claiming to be right
or not to be. It just it just irks me,
and it questions the whole why are we on this
reality TV show?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But before we go that far, let's go back to
the beginning. John. I want to know, I want to
know your story on how you were cast for The
Real Housewives in New Jersey and did you have any
any knowledge of the show before you were a cast member?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Of course, well, I definitely had knowledge, right, So Joe
bought tyle for me for the show. I knew of
the show. Actually, one of my mom's friends is one
of Teresa's bankruptcy attorneys who helped take the time, So
there's a lot of connection to the show. But frank
(08:15):
was a friend of ours. Brittany, his future wife was
a friend of my wife. Of course we knew about
the show. Was not really something I geared towards being on,
to be honest with you, we moved up to Franklin Lake's.
There was jokes from people like I gotta be on
that show. I'm like, yeah, okay, let me the hell alone,
you know. And you know, one day, I guess they
reached out to my wife on Instagram, and you know, look,
(08:39):
I think at that point, my wife was pregnant. She
was home all day. You know, Rachel's trying to like
she really wants to do her own thing and kind
of have her own thing, right. So as a supportive husband,
my god, I'm always gonna support my wife. So I
stupid least like, yeah, whatever you want, go ahead and apply,
you know, like to see what they say. I just
didn't think it would go anywhere. And I remember, because
(09:01):
I was eating the bowl of cereal. You know, I
was eating the boat cinnamon the cereal, right, and I'm like, yeah,
go ahead and see what they say. This is kind
of like grubbing it off growing up here, I am,
you know what I mean. But we knew about it.
We went to the whole process. I think we were
a perfect fit because I think New Jersey is probably
one of the hardest shows to cast for. So I
guess we were a perfect fit from when I was
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told and then we embarked in our inventure. Man, you know,
the first year. To be honest, a lot of people
don't realize that Louie used to reach out to me
at the beginning. I used to talk to everybody, including Louis.
We would have phone calls about economies and business and
things like that, and we would just talk like normal,
you know. And I was buddies were Joey still because
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our kids.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And this was before the show.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This was the first year on the show. Season for the.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
First year on the show. Okay, so you guys were buddies.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I was friends with Gorgo's before the show because
the kids hunt up. Yeah, so the kids did hang out.
We were friends. Oh did give me a warning. He
tried to give me a warning, but it was very,
very filtered by the way there was a lot of
mask on his warning. I wish it was a little
bit more clear, but yeah, no, we did it. And
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I used to talk to everybody in the beginning and
then towards the end of season thirteen and obviously that's
when it really parted ways.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny you say that. I've only had
a couple of husbands come up to me before they
joined the cast. And there's just one thing I always
reiterate to every single a one, and don't get involved
in the drama, and definitely don't go head to head
with the housewives because we have no control even though
we're right, even though we are innocent, we don't have
(10:41):
any control over the edit, so they're always going to
edit it so the housewife looks great and the guys
are never gonna look good. So I know that you've
been involved and you went to head to head with Teresa,
and I understand she was making these false allegations and
all that. I can't imagine having to deal with something
(11:01):
like that, But that's always been my my take on this,
like just stay out of it. Let them talk, let
them come up with some bullshit and let's it's illegal
and damaging, you know, not true, Let them talk out
of their ass, right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well that listen, when I I did not want to
really get involved, to be honest, right, but I kind
of have no choice but to get involved the way
I felt. First off, I have Jen aiding alluding to
the fact that I use sex toys and whatnot. Then
I have her alluding to the fact that I sell drugs.
So it's like, listen, you're really coming after my manhood, right,
Like you're really trying to piss me off. Now, couldn't
(11:35):
just let me be made a couple of times, call
me ugly, call me whatever. I laugh about it, right, Yeah,
but you know, once you did that, I'm going to
defend myself like any normal person would. And I just
suspended myself. And I you know, I think one of
the reasons why I handled it so well, and I
think the reason it went in my direction is because
I was honest with everybody. I'm just right out. This
is what you see is what you get with me?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah? Yeah, no, I mean obviously you had no nothing
to hide or defend. Right, It's not like any of
that was true anyways. So it's easy to defend that,
but it's it's harder when you're actually under investigation or
you actually went to jail to say.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Innocent, right, right, right, because you know you've got that
in your background. Yeah, it's not that easy. You know,
you brought up a really good point about the way
we are edited as men, right because a lot of
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we don't. There's no control over to yet it right.
A lot of people don't realize that. You know, you
film a lot and some of it makes the cut
and some of it doesn't, but you don't have any
control of where they start and stop things. But you know,
I feel like I've gotten I've had some good edits.
To be honest with you, I think a lot of
the truth was told and what I was doing, and
I'm kind of happy for that. I can't really complain
(12:58):
too much, but I get how a lot of feel
like they didn't get a good.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Adic right right on. One. Another thing that I want
to mention about that is the biggest lesson I learned
about being on a reality TV show is that the
camera is very transparent. You can try unless you're a
really good a list professional actor, the camera, we'll see
right through you. And there's a lot of characters on
the show that I didn't know before the show, but
(13:23):
filming with them and then watching them on TV, I'm like, yeah,
that guy's a scumbag.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I didn't see it coming, But now that I see
it on TV, I'm like, yeah, it makes sense now.
And then if you're at all interested, you just google
their name. You're like, yeah, scumbag, you know. So the
reality is is if you have nothing to defend, then
you're then you just have to clear up your name.
And that's all you did, right You Just Hey, I'm
(13:49):
not here to fight with you. I'm just here to
say this is who I really am.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So right, Like, I don't sell drugs. I didn't make
my living on selling drugs. I have nothing to hide,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it was easy for
me to do.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I couldn't help.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But hear the sex toys? What was that all about?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You got accuse me? I don't even understand how that
came out? What's that deal? Bro? Allegedly there's this thread
I like purple dildos that was like this this thread
that came out from my ex. You know, first off,
anyone who has an ex most likely didn't end off
in well terms. Like there's not a lot of exes
that talk well about each other right now, especially when
(14:28):
you get full stole custody of a kid. You're not.
It's not like, oh yeah, he's amazing, he's a wonderful
guy that no custody of the kid. She hates my guts.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. So is it is it true or a rumor
that she is actually incarcerated?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She she was incarcerator. I believe she was recently let out.
Oh okay, yeah, she recently got out. She was incarcerated.
You know, she made some tough choices that got her
to where she was in life. Yeah, she was a
beautiful girl when I'm better man, she really it was
a beautiful girl. But just unfortunately life gives you decisions
to make and she made some bad ones and I
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had to make different decisions at that time to protect
you know, the child we had, and I did the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah. How long were you a single dad before you
met Rachel oh Man?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was a single dad from I would say two
thousand and seven to two thousand and fourteen, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, Wow, that's a long time.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, man, listen, I enjoyed myself, you know, I definitely
I had my son and I would go out and
my mother helped me out a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
She would watch him when I go out at night,
spend a whole day, hang out with my son a
little bit, and then go go out at night. Do it.
Do what young people do, right, and then wake up,
go to work and see to see the kid before
he goes to school. Go to work and do your thing.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, that was a long time. Mine was only three weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Meeting Kenny three weeks after, but we we did.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That just happened him like three weeks later. I thought
I was going to be single for like ten years
at least before, but in lasted three weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, I had to listen. I didn't want to rush
into anything. I wanted to really enjoy and get, you know, experiment,
and I did. I took my time, and I really
knew what I wanted when I met my wife.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So what was one of the most challenging things being
a single dad?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Most challenging things I guess this. You know, he didn't
really have a mother to at a younger age to
kind of learn some of those qualities that would be
the most because Rachel really when she met him, there
was a lot of work that had to be done
with therapists and stuff, and we really had to get
him some of those qualities to where he needed to be.
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As far as me as a man, by far, I
loved it. I would go out, I have my son,
I had everything I need to hung out with this one.
I hung out with that one and never introduced anybody
to my son.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was like, this is gonna add Did you ever
like use them as bait?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Na?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
No? Never as much as easy as it could have been. Right,
this is a puffy dog is a little easier because
there's no feelings for a puppy.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But that's hilarious, awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Hey, by the way, John, so obviously you your family business, right,
Uh it was just food a tile, So you you
were selling towels for a long time, and it's obviously
you your family has had that for a long time.
And then you've had your ballet business.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Right. Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Before the show came on, were you were you concerned
at all that it was going to affect your family
business and your own business at all? The data ever
crossed your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh yeah, So it crossed my mind a lot, right,
So at first I thought it would affect it. Then
I said, hey, it's gonna help because a lot of
people in the future field that I might relate and
you know, might want to connect with it. Of course,
to the comment of being a drug deal to not
help my case at all, but that's anything and amplified
it and made it harder. But at this point, you know,
(18:02):
we're operating, we're seeing it through. We had a little
bit of a hit during that time, and we're able
to recover a lot because we do do a great
service of what we do, and we got back on
our feet.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So tell us about how you started your company. How
did that come about? You're working with the family and
a What did you learn most about who was your
mentor in the food A taw And then how did
you decide to branch off and do your own thing
and start your ballet company which is a very successful
company out there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So I learned obviously from my family. I had my
uncle Frank, I had my grandfather. When I was younger,
I lived in Florida for a little bit with my father.
I learned construction at that point but I learned how
to really install tile build construct at a very young age.
I liked it wasn't bad, but there was a lot
of competition in the space. It really was, and I
(18:52):
was young, so it'd be hard to get jobs. People
didn't trust giving you the money. So in twenty thirteen,
I said to myself, I got to do something different.
So many hands in this family business, I don't see
where this is going to go. So I started working,
like doing valet at night because there was hot chicks
that would go into the restaurants. You get to drive
nice cars. I'm like, this is great. You know, you
can make a couple of bucks before you know what
(19:14):
I had. You know, I had a few accounts that
I was running in the restaurant business, and that was
what you know is standard valet. Obviously, you know a
lot of people are like, ohways in the valet business.
They think that's what I do for a living. That
is only like the restaurant aspect of it, which eventually
you grow out. Now I service car dealerships, we do hospitals,
we do residential buildings, and we service not only valet attendants,
(19:38):
but we service concierge concierge, janitorial, So we do so
many more aspects than just a valet and now you
know we're a nice buy's company.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well what would you tell someone that maybe as young
as their own ballet business, but right now it's just restaurants?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
What made you? What did it click for you? Like
a minute, I could make this a lot bigger and
I could branch off and do way bigger things. What
was a catalyst moment for you?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So I actually I do tell people. I still get
people that ask me, no matter what business I'm in,
because I'm in a few different always wait three years.
Everybody gets in business, they jump in, they don't make
money in a year, and they want to get out,
they want to abandon shit. The first year is the
hardest year. The second year you start to you know,
you build it to where you need it. In the
third year usually you see the reward. So I always say,
(20:29):
if you're going to do something, give it three years.
So if I had to advise anybody on a business
and what they were getting into, I would definitely say
research it, get your technology in order, learn all your
local labor laws, because my business have a ton of
laws regarding employment. Learn all those laws and just wait
three years. Man, don't give up till three years is done.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I like good advice.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, the number three, the number three.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
What's the toughest part of what you do?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You think the toughest part about what I do is
dealing with personality. So I deal with the client, I
deal with the employee. Now there's a lot of labor
laws out there now that make the job a little harder.
And then you have to go to the client to
get more money. You know, obviously pay for more things
that they're offering as a law, and that's what makes
it harder for fund the equal balance to do.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So, by the way, is Jersey like Cali, where like
the other day I was driving on the freeway and
I kid you not, I took a two hour drive
and then I just started seeing billboards and all of
them are lawyers. Like it got my attention. I'm like, oh, shoot,
every billboard is a freaking lawyer like that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, Jersey is just like that, but not as bad
as Calie. Cali has to be one of the worst
states to employ people in. It is. It is something else,
it really is. But I mean, look, that's just the
world we're living right, Guys like, look, yeah, a world.
I don't know. You both can remember five years ago,
just before COVID how different it was to what is now.
(22:01):
You know, just being in business is a whole different
ballgame right now. Yeah, there's so many people that are
going in business for themselves, you know, they're Grooper really
changed a lot in the game. But there's so many
I would say, migrants and people that are basically going
in business for themselves competing and they're not they're not
paying the right insurances, they're not doing things right, and
(22:22):
you're you're stuck competing against that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean that's the best. The bottom line is,
you know, I've learned throughout my business career there's always
going to be those that break the law and seem
to be getting away with it. You know, they might
advertise illegally and claim make claims that are not true
and get the business, get the customers, and ultimately they
(22:44):
fail because they don't deliver on their promise or what
they're selling. Right. So I always say, it's it's not
a matter of if, it's a matter of when they
get caught and their business is going to be under
And I noticed kind of a pattern as well with
those same people that do that kind of crap. They
start a business, they get their money, then they bankrupt it,
(23:04):
and then they go up and open up another business
and do the same shit it over and over and over,
and eventually it'll catch up to them, maybe, like the
FBI will catch up to them. But you know, it's
just it makes it hard for legitimate businesses to not
only you know, maintain the validity of the industry, like
the cannabis industry especially right now. Right we have a
(23:25):
lot of competition with a lot of fake products out
there that say, you know, this is cannabis, and then
it hurts the industry. Even though we're doing everything diligent,
providing quality ingredients and quality products, doing all the testing
and everything and giving the customer exactly what we say
is in our product, there's other companies out there that
are not providing any of that, and it hurts the
(23:48):
industry overall. So that irks me and I hate that,
But that's the reality of business in America, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, it really is. That you just spelled it out perfectly. Now,
there's always going to be guys around us in business
that are always looking to raise capital. I always that's
a red flag whenever I hear that, what do you
need money for it? And then all of a sudden
they're starting business to putting it into some other type
of their business and stealing the money that way. So
I always looked out for those people. And then you
(24:19):
get you know, if someone needed a loan or whatever
and you can't go to a bank, it's a huge
red flag. And I feel so bad for business people
that I talk to and people it's like, oh, I
loan money to this person to help them start a business,
and I haven't seen him return in two years and
they haven't shown me anything. What can I do? What
can you do? I mean, what what's mattered? Every quarter?
(24:41):
You should be looking for a statement. And if that
statement is not there, how did you guarantee to your loan.
There's so many things that I feel bad for that
I sit and I'm like, you loan money to who
for what? And I don't loan money to family. I
don't help. I don't know. I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's a giveaway for money for family. You you just
don't expect it back.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, I don't. I don't do that. Yeah, You'll never
get it back.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeh, I never get it back.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Hey, John, tell us about glamorous studios and you what
made you want to partner up with Joe?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
What made me want to partner with the Gorgas?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, everybody says to the partner with the Gorga and
they got screwed or some business deal went bad. Right,
So I guess I challenge the ultimate, right. I was like,
you know what, I want to go at this now.
I'm just kidding around. So me and Joe are really
good friends. Look, I'm in this phase now where passive
income is my new thing, all right. I just want
(25:44):
to create passive income. And the way I explained it
all I was like, I want to build rivers, and
those rivers are going to feed the bay, and I
want those rivers to constantly flow. So you know, I
have a billable hour river that's flowing. I have a
couple of rental units, and I'm building that river that's flowing.
And I wanted to expand. So going into glan Slon
Studios is basically the space that I think is thriving. Right.
(26:08):
Everybody wants to be in business for themselves now, so
why not take a larger space, subdivided, give them the
ability to be in business for themselves. Now both of
our wives. I have people in and out of my
house daily, and all I do is I talk to
these people because that's just who I am, the personality.
I talked to everybody. How you doing? We just start?
Had you come up? You know? And I talked to
(26:28):
all these beauty exeditions and I just hear the story
and I'm like, you know what, this is a great idea.
I started fishing around. There was a buddy who was
doing it where I was going to invest in them
with him. Something turned me off about investing with them,
so I decided that that wasn't the route to go.
So me and Joe decided at that point, hey, let's
just do it ourselves. You know, it's just I'm We're
(26:50):
going to go for it. See what we could turn
it into. He's got the construction background. I have some
of it. We could turn this into a money maker.
Why not let's try it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well, tell us about the business. What is it?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So what it is is it's basically subdivided studios. So
we took a larger space. We subdivided it. Now, if
you're in the business of waxing people. Right, I got wax.
So here you go, there's a wax studio. This is
I'm going to give Joe his own wax studio. This
you go wax away in there, right, But you want
to wax people, and you want to bring your clients there.
(27:21):
You pay us, you know, weekly, and then you're able
to bring your clients there. So now it's ay least
from us yearly, but it's just distributed weekly. And now
if they have a client base, they can bring them
there and they can use it as their studio. If
they are a eyebrow waxer, they do eyebrow waxing, we're tattooing.
You can rent a studio from us if you do hair.
(27:42):
And you don't want to work for a beauty salon
because a lot of these girls, you don't realize they're
working for these salons and they're getting they're given all
their money to the Salona arm. You wouldn't believe how
much the cut is. Where they're all going in business
for themselves at this point. And I mean, I'm sure
you guys see it. You got hair and makeup in
your house every day, you see what going on you know,
they're bringing everything to people's homes at this point just
(28:04):
to make the money, So why not give them a
studio space and then people can come to the studio. Yeah,
so that's really what it is. It's basically you've got
boat talks. Come there. Now. Even if you're a doctor
and you need a strings office comes see, yes, we
got you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So you're building the infrastructure, the real estate infrastructure around it.
So these folks have an economical way of conducting their
business without you know, breaking the bank. When it comes
to having your own brick and mortar, right, well.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Think about it. To open a beauty salon, you have
to go out, you have to lease the space, you
have to put a security deposit down. Once you do that,
now you have to do a build out, right, You
got to build a whole place out. So if you
only need one chair really for yourself, and you have
to build four or five chairs and then go and
hire and manage employees. A lot of people don't want
to deal with that. They want to work for themselves,
(28:57):
but they don't want to deal with that. So our
salon suites give them the ability to work for themselves,
manage their own schedule. Have their own suite and that's it.
They don't have to put the money out to really
go crazy and build this whole place.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So is it like a Regius but for beauty right?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We work are Regius, but it's all beauty space nice.
So it's interesting, you know, But it's about trying things.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So our next episode we're going to talk about what
Eddie and I do for beauty that would actually work
for us. We could actually go to one of your
salons if you open one in California.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What's your beauty routine? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
You just get a wait for the other episode. Yeah,
we'll talk about that at the next episode for sure.
But we want to we really want to just make
this about you and and learn as much as we
can about you. John, I'd like to talk a little
(29:59):
bit more about the me experience Ed and I Edwin
and I Can I.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Call you Ed because yeah, yeah, so Ed and I
we we've experienced it good and bad, and we've shared
our experience on the show and with some examples. Can
you tell us a little bit about what do you
like and what you dislike about filming reality TV? Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So one of the one of the things I like is,
you know, obviously your wife is happy. You see her happy, right,
And you get to meet people and you get to
do with some of the some very interesting things that
you probably wouldn't really do every day. Right. You get
to go to certain events, you get to do things,
you get put on a pedestal a little bit, you
get reservations easy, you get hooked up. But I think
(30:44):
some of the most challenging things I have is being
a guy on The Real Housewives New Jersey. It's almost
like you're a main cast member, but you're not right
because you're not a housewife technically, right, But your whole
life is on TV, your whole kids are on TV,
and you have people that are blowing you up on
social media. Right. Social media is the playground for everybody
to have their opinion, right, like, oh, you're involving yourself
(31:07):
too much, or you're this, or you're that, And it's
very easy to have an opinion. It's very easy to
have an opinion until you're the person that's being judged constantly.
You know, But I just don't care, so it doesn't
bother me. But you know, when you're thinking in the
moment and you're like, Okay, well I did it this way.
You don't really have so much time to really think
about the best way to do it. Sometimes this is
(31:28):
not scripted, you know, you just freestyleing off the cup.
And I didn't go to school being in a reality
TV And I'm a business dude. I'm in a valet
business and tile business. You know, I'm not in theater
at all art, you know. So I don't like you know,
there's a lot of things going on on social media,
and there's a lot of people that kind of rip
our lives apart as if we're toys and then actually
(31:50):
in a play chess and we're really not. I don't
like our kids involved, you know. I don't like when
people bring the kids into it. The kids are there,
they're part of our life, but they shouldn't be subject
to comments on social media things that are going on
that's out of bounce. You know, you totally now, Yeah,
my son doesn't need to you know, people are signed
(32:10):
him Bilbo pictures and this and that, and then you're
trying to tell me how to parent at the same time. No,
you know, it's very simple. I don't like, as a guy,
you just don't get any recognition. Your whole life is
being broadcast and you get no recognition to really say it.
I don't even have a confessional moment where I can
even defend myself most of these times. Right, some of
(32:32):
the other guys can get that, but I get ripped
apart on season fourteen. I don't even have the ability
to say, hey, this is my version of what and
this is how this happened. I don't have that platform. Yeah,
so I don't like that. Other than that, it's not bad,
you know, it's just when the Housewives says something about
a guy, you don't really have the defense that you
(32:53):
should have.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Right, No, it's it's hard, especially when they're making a
fabricated lies about you, whatever they may be. You know,
it's it's how do you defend the lie? You just
ignore it. It has no legs, it's got no validity,
and you can say whatever you want until you break
the law. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna engage with you, right,
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go there. I mean,
(33:16):
I can't tell you how many times I just wanted
to blow up and you know, go to the media
and tell my side of the story or or retaliate
if you will. But it really just becomes a waste
of my time when I could be doing some so
much other stuff, you know, more productive stuff, then defending
myself on a reality TV show which I have no
(33:38):
control of.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, right, And then it it just gets to a
point though where it's like whatever, it's only it's it's
a reality TV show and it's not real life. This
is ridiculous. And I think men process a little different
than women. Do you get angry about it, You go
to the gym, you work it off, and I think
you kind of just you know, move on with your day. Yeah.
I do think, and I'm a strong advocator for you know,
(34:02):
I do think there should be a men's time out,
or a men's show or men's vacation. I think that
there's so much the guys get along. Obviously in Vegas
we had a great time. We get along. There's so
much more to learn about the guys. And I think
that the guys tend to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And I think that, Yeah, I was just going to
say that the biggest difference about the Jersey men's cast
versus all the franchises, and I don't watch all of them.
I barely even watch mine. My experience on my own
cast is I don't know these guys from Adam. And
There's been very few, maybe three guys in the entire
(34:37):
twelve years that I've filmed that I've actually liked the
guys on the other on the cast, you know, Terry
Burrow being one, Shane being another, David deb Or, David Badoor,
you know, very few guys. The rest of them sketchy,
you know, like I don't want anything to do with them,
zero to do with them, and and like, and that's
(34:57):
the problem I have with being on a show where
I can you know, I don't know these people. I
don't want to know these people. But even if I did,
I wouldn't trust to tell them anything because you never
know what's going to be shown on TV, right, or
what they're going to bring up for whatever reason? Right, Yeah,
I don't know who. Do you think Edwin well?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
No, I tend to agree. It's it's tough. I think
the Jersey guys do a good job of like really
hanging out and stuff, but it is hard to what
do you tell? How much could you tell a cast
member because they could tell the wife and then the
wife turns around and blows you up on TV. Right, So, uh,
you just to your point, you never know, And I
(35:44):
think that's what makes it a little harder for the
guys to like really kind of hang out. Uh is
that I think most won't admit it, but I think
deep down it's kind of hard to hang out because
of that because you just don't know. That's when when
I mean, I haven't seen it, but you saw it.
Maybe you see it, Eddie, But typically once you stop filming,
you're not really hanging out.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Again, I think the Jersey guys do a good job
of that, but I think everyone else I haven't really
seen anybody really hang out after filming.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Like that was my point I was trying to make,
is that the Jersey guys are different when it comes
to the show. Because you guys all get along, most
of you get along.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You got to make sure you say most of us.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, because you know. And in my opinion, this is
just my opinion, it's all revolving around Joe Gorga, who's
the life of the party, totally down to earth cool guy.
We had him on our podcast and We really enjoyed
his energy and his story. And from day one I
got along with Joe because he's just such a cool
cat and he just wants to have a good time.
(36:47):
You know, he's not attacking the guys. He's just I mean,
he wants to be on stage and he's good. He's
got charismatic charisma up the yin yang and he's had
your own show at the Bravo Calm last year. It's
just phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, you guys are enjoying it
and having fun, and I do admire that, but we
(37:09):
we don't have any of that in my in my franchise.
I don't think you have that edwin like that kind
of connection. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's not it's
not something that is common in the Housewives show. But
you guys definitely stand out. And when I hung out
with you guys, gave me the opportunity to hang out
with you guys at probably Con, I really enjoyed myself
(37:32):
and there was no pressure, there was no like I'm
trying to be somebody I'm not and and it was cool.
I really enjoyed hanging out with you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
No, you hit it best we just all, you know,
we all want to have a good time, not just
we all want to just have a good time, laugh
and have a good time go home. That's that is
Like even tonight Joe and Frank they got a comedy show.
I'll probably go there at some point tonight or tomorrow
and bust their chops in the audience.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Have fun.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's just we have a good camaraderie. Again, not all
of us, but before there's four of us that have
a really close relationship.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, Joe's doing comedy now, Yeah, I got to keep
up with him.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, he does it all. I'm telling you, he's been
doing comedy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
And actually he's pretty funny, man, I give him that.
You know, he's pretty funny. But I mean, look, Joe's
a great guy. I know him on a different level.
I mean since I got in this show, he took
me right underneath his wedding. Could have could have steered
me in the wrong direction. There was no jelus here,
any of that steered me in the right direction. We're
boys who are friends to his day. Just have fun
(38:36):
with it, That's all I can say. Man, I have
fun with it. There's good days and bad you know.
There's some days but the internet's blowing up and it
just like, what the hell did I do this for?
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, Eventually, like.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Anything else, you outgrow it. I think that's that's the
best word. Eventually. It's like I would either run in
their mouth again, so be it. Like I heard, you know,
Kenny and was just doing a podcast running her mouth
about my family. Yeah, go ahead if you need to
talk about me that bad.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I feel bad because we're not talking. I don't
really give a shit about your people. Yeah, that's how
I call it. I really don't give us to it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And I think that's another really good point we want
to bring up is that the show is a show,
and even though it is reality TV, it's still a production.
It's still edited, and it's still designed to create a
story and a show for what it's worth. Taking it
outside of the filming days and the airing days and
(39:30):
making this a personal attack on your social media or however,
just anything outside of the Bravo curtain. It should be
off limits. You know. It's like you go to work.
Let's say you're a lawyer. You go to work, you
practice law, and then you leave it at the office. Right,
sometimes you take it home, but it's here. You're not
broadcasting it to the world to say, this is the
(39:53):
biggest case I'm working on, and I'm going to tell
everybody what's going on, because then you'd lose the case.
But the point is keep it in the TV realm,
don't take it outside of this and make it that
much more personal than it has to be. And I
get it. Some people have to defend their lies, but
you know, the truth is the truth and will always prevail.
(40:13):
The truth will always prevail.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I also think some people just need to do that
to build who they are, you know, And I don't
think unless you have somebody to take down, you have nothing.
There's some people that are like that in the world, right.
I know a lot of people that they have to
rip people apart to build themselves up.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, it's it's kind of their character. But some would
argue that my wife falls into that category. But she
just tells the truth, you know, she just calls out
the truth. She's not making up lies. She's not pretending that.
You know that. You know, she won't say anything that's
not true about you. She might get a little crazy,
but she doesn't, you know, make lies up.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Except yep, I thought your wife's awesome. Man, I'm pretty
good judge of character, but I thought I thought she's
a great girl.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
She is is. I love her as well.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I like them both.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, and they're very they're very famous on their podcasts.
They're really happy with themselves because you know, they're killing it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I like what you guys did to turn it, you know,
with you guys. I like that as well.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
By the way, John, with with with everything being so
divided with New Jersey and you know, everybody kind of
just do you if Rachel were to come back, I mean,
is she coming back? And if she gets the call
to come back, would you tell her not to or.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, yeah, I'm gonna use Joe when you're already pregnant.
You're already pregnant, right, so we're already pregnant for the
most part. That's how he says it. But my thing is,
we're already in the water, just seep right. Yeah. I'm
not saying we wouldn't get out, and I'm not saying
that we would. We'd have to feel it out and
(42:06):
see what the rest of the circle looks like. And
you know, if you feel like you're going to be
in another toxic circle, then at some point you'd got
to walk away, right, you don't want to You're I'm
going to do something where it continues to affect you
in your career and stuff like that. If it's toxic, now,
if it makes sense and it's fun and there could be,
you know, something good that comes out of it and
people can have a good time, then yeah, it makes
(42:27):
sense to continue.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I like that answer, and I'll add to that. I
think it's you know, in reality in the real world,
if I find out that I'm in a circle of criminals,
I'm going to get out right. I don't want to
be around that, and not because I hold myself at
a higher standard, but because I don't want to risk
(42:51):
my family being surrounded by that, you know. And that's
one of the issues I have with reality TV is
they're glorifying all this illegal transactions and illegalities of reality TV. Right,
Why are they getting so much attention if they're doing
something illegal? It doesn't make any sense to me. So
(43:11):
my answer would be, you know, if we're going to
surround us with a bunch of criminals, I'm out. I
don't want anything to do with that. But because in real
life I would take my stuff out of that picture easily, right, right,
Like you gotta.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If you see that you got a bunch of criminals
around you, you have to evaluate at that point and
say this is not for me.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, but you know, unfortunately till you get there, you know,
you don't really know what is there season by season.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Right, I mean, I think to that point, if you
are hanging out with a bunch of kids and you
find out one kid you know is stealing and breaking
into cars and you're just there hanging with them, yeah,
you're you're guilty by association, but you learn as a
young kid, I want nothing to do with those people, right,
Because it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Also looks like on you, it looks back because we're associated.
If you don't falk to somebody and you don't want
to mess with them, we're still associated. Yes, we're on
the same show, you know. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah,
I don't like it because it reflects on your character.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
It does, it does, And you know, we spend at
least I know you guys too, We spend most of
our life being as good as a citizen and as
good a person as we can. You know, we're not perfect.
But we do what's right, and and that just has
kept me out of trouble. And I've not done anything
so drastically illegal. You know. God, I haven't got a
(44:36):
speeding ticket in a long time. But I'm gonna knock
on wood right right, you know, good at night, I
sleep very good at night. I don't screw anybody. I
don't steal from people. I you know, if I don't
like something, I just keep my mouth shut and stay
away from it, you know, unless unless it affects my
family and and you know, the people I love. It's
not my business and I'd rather stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
But and that's that's just a man in general. Right
when you start messing with your family and you start,
of course you're gonna piss them off. They're gonna wake
them up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah, So awesome question for you.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That's kind of out there. So just because the New
Jersey girls are a little intimidating, I think, is there
one in particular that you're like, I do not want
to get in a mess with that one?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Interesting question? Is there one that.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
You're just like, Man, this one's too quick, too witted,
like too much wit. I don't even have a chance.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
My wife. Yeah, my wife, good answer. My wife would
be the one. Other than that, that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So the Jersey girls you feel are intimidating. Man.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
I've seen a little bit of them in action, and
I'm like, oh shit, man, I would not want to
get in an argument with one of those.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
There you go. It's funny, man. Jersey is such an
interesting place, so is New York. But they're they're very catty,
that's for sure. Yeah, very caddy.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So, as we come to the end of the discussion here, John,
is there anything else you would like to tell the
listeners about yourself like that you don't want them to know.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I mean, yeah, obviously don't believe in what you're here.
That's just straight out ridiculous. Yeah. But yeah, listen, I
don't like to fight with women. I don't like to
do all that. I'm only in a position where I
have to defend myself and I did.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Other than that, I want not to do any any
of the other ones. You know, unless you attack my family,
I'm going to do what every man does. It's going
to be defend his family. Yeah, but and my children.
You know, I definitely don't think it's right that the
kids deal with stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, that's that's totally low blow. I mean that's trash
when when women do that.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's not just women too, there's some guys
that do it as well. But just come on and
leave the kids out of it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Is, it is so but on that's it, man. You know,
unless you guys have any questions for me. But I'm
an open book. I got nothing to hide, and most
of the viewers know. If there's something they want to know,
shoot me a message. I always answer everybody.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, that's awesome, and I do appreciate the transparency. There's
some questions that were probably hard to answer that you answered,
and man, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.
Congratulations on all the success and keep questioning it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Thank you, Bettie, Thank you. Man. It's only hard if
you've got something to hide. Man, if you've got nothing,
I agree with life. It's easy, man. There's nothing hard
about any of that, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, And to that point, I know that there's not
one person out there that doesn't have at least one
skeleton in the closet. But when you have a freaking
cemetery you should stay off reality TV shows.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, we'll put, We'll put when you're hiring bloggers to
attack people and things like that, like yeah, yeah, you
got to say that there's some crazy people out there. Man.
Some of the things that I have witnessed in the
last year and a half on what was being done
behind the scenes to tarnish me and evidence improved, I'm
(48:12):
still like, whoa, I feel like I'm part of I
want to make a documentary. That's my next thing. I
want to film a documentary next.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah you MANU will tune in?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah right, probably right.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Well, maybe the house franchise will come up with the
Real House Husbands of New Jersey and the Real House
Husbands of Orange County and the Real House Husbands of
Beverly Hills, and we'll have our own show.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
You would not believe how many viewers want to see
a Guys trip. Man. I get told all the time
I hear about it. I don't know why Bravo hasn't
done it. I mean, it's it's very apparent that they
want to see it, so I would just I mean,
it doesn't make any sense as a business not to say, hey,
let's go and do two or three days of film
and let's see how this does as a pilot. I
(48:57):
think it would make a lot of sense bringing a
lot of the guys from the franchises together and having fun.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah yeah, that could be fun. That could be a
lot of fun. But it goes back to my point.
You know, the Real House that's of Orange County. It's
really a woman's show, a female show. And you know,
I won't leave the gays out because it's a show
for them too. But most mature male, like business driven guys,
(49:23):
they don't sit and watch this show. You know, most
of the guys don't.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So you would think that I had the biggest biker
in ac come up to me a Hell's Angels. My
man was huge. Wow, And I'm like, you watch it? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah,
I love that shit.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
The wives make them watch it.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You shocked, man, how many guys that actually watched the
show addicted?
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Once you start watching it, like, you gotta be careful,
Like I always tell friends, like, I know, you want
to watch one episode, you're gonna get hooked on it.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, it's I do have had that experience John as well,
where Burley guys and and even you know in the beginning.
I told the story in the beginning of our podcast
as well. When we first started dating and we went
to watch What Happens in New York and we were
walking down the Broadway or something. A big fire truck
passed by and they noticed camera, and then they put
(50:15):
two and two together and they started going crazy, we
love Yeah, And I turned around and I'm like, the
Fireman watch you.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Reality check? Right? Yeah? Oh my god. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, but you know, I personally can't sit and watch
all the cattiness and the fighting and all that. I
do find it interesting. It's quite a phenomenon that this
show has lasted this long. That's more intriguing to me, Like,
how did this show have such long longevity and duration?
And god knows how much money it's generated, you know
(50:48):
in the last what is it, almost twenty years. That's
more interesting to me than you know, who's fighting with
who and who's calling who out? And you know who's
the criminal this season? You know, it's just right.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Endless. Yeah, there's always been to be families, There's always
gonna be something.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
So yeah, I get it. Always the stery to tell.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's it, man, You know, there really is and I
think there's a lot of life left and off. You know,
as a photo family, we have a lot going on.
You know that they're missing unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah. Yeah, So the show's on pause, right your show?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, pause or whatever they want to call it. Pause.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
I only hear this through my wife because she tells
me a little bit what's going on over there. And
then I just saw Joe in New York and he
was telling me it's on pause. So well, you know,
I wish you guys luck. I hope the show comes
back because Jersey is one of the most entertaining, because
the guys and the girls are both entertaining, and I
(51:57):
think the viewers would be really lost if they didn't
have Jersey. So I hope you guys come back and
they clean up the show.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Agreed, Let's see Man from your Mouth and God's Ears,
Let's see what happens. John.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
It was great catching up to you and having you
on the pod. It's been a pleasure. I look forward
to catching up next time I see you.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
All right, guys, it was a pleasure being on. Let
me know if there's any questions you
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Guys have after awesome awesome, I'll see you guys later
Thanks John, have a good one.
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