The Twot Seat: JEFF LEWIS

The tables have turned… Jeff Lewis joins Teddi and Tamra in a rare interview! 

What happened with Sai’s hot mic meltdown? What does Jeff know about PK and Dorit’s relationship? Does Jeff own up to bashing Teddi’s company?

It’s all in a new juicy episode of The Twot Seat! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod. And before me and Tamra get started, I
wanted to let everybody know that if there's anything you
need to edit it out of this take and you're
not going to release on that app.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Don't we know hot Mike moments that are going to
happen here today. I just want to let you know that,
Jeff Lewis, there was a little slip up on your
show and I need details.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
But I'm confused because you do always tell us multiple times.
By the way, yeah, you're on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You're on the air, every break you say you're on
the air. But my question to you is where do
you release the footage? The video footage?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Okay, so first we should tell people what happened. Yes,
which is on? So on Jeff Lewis Live. I had
signed to Silva on she's one of the newer Real
housewives in New York City. When she do it. When
you do the show, we start recording two minutes before
we go live. We record the entire session, including breaks,
and two minutes after we're done, We tell everyone this,

(01:11):
So I always say, like, don't say anything after you know,
in two minutes we're gonna go live. Don't say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
And this happens multiple times because we get nervous every time.
We're like, okay, shut up, be quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
But as a guest on your show, I assume that
those recording is used for your clips for your social media.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Okay, so it is used for that. In my office,
we can control what clips we use for social media.
Guy have a social media guy. But what they what
Sirius XM does is they they record the entire show,
they take clips, and they put it on video for
the app. So that's why we're always we always say like,

(01:50):
you know, be careful what you say, be careful what
you say.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Say.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
They did have a choice to Eric, they had a choice.
It didn't upload the entire episode. It's not like right
now or our care recording and then we have a
choice what we want to upload.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
They had our clips.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
So just so you know, I do warn everyone. However,
I have no control over what they take from the show,
right and it's normally what they're interested in is before
the show, the breaks and after the show, did say
get upset you know, she did reach out to me,
and but she even acknowledged She said, you know, I
was warned four times by your producer, and but I said, look,

(02:28):
there's worse things you can say about someone. I mean,
she said, Rebecca mink Off. So again, so we can
explain to your listeners, she said that Rebecca Minkoff is
too nice, boring, too nice. I don't know if she
said boring.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
She said the word boring, but the way she said
it was actually this season is kind of boring. Yes,
So that's what I was going to ask you. Did
you guys think in the moment she was saying the
season was boring or that Rebecca Minkoff was boring?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
How did you take it? I took it as her
storyline is boring and that she is maybe not the
best fit for the show. She said, she's very sweet
and very professional, and.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
She's a scientologist. I did not know that what big
time science.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
So we didn't. You didn't get to talk about that
off camera?

Speaker 4 (03:14):
No, I didn't. We didn't. We really didn't talk much
about Rebecca. It was and by the way, she wasn't
even talking to me, she was I was doing something else.
She mad, she was talking to my other guest Nicole
Nicole Ryan from Hits one. She was talking Nicole Ryan.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But the point is she she did make a comment
that alluding to she's nice, but you know, maybe not
the best for the show. I don't think that's the
worst thing to say, agreed, But it is the worst
thing to say when it's season one of this new
person joining the cast. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well yeah, Now she's got to go back and film
with her and you understand, much like Orange County, you've
been brought into our conversations. Now when she goes back
in films, it's going to be brought up. Well, Jeff,
you tend to piss people off, and my next question
for you is, but you don't somebody off.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Before we get to pissing off, I need to know
if he sent cy flowers to apologize because that.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I didn't do anything wrong, if I felt like I
did something wrong. I do send flowers when i've I've.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Never gotten, but I've gotten a request with you.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I don't know my skin so tough, I don't care anyways, I.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Love, but I don't think I really did anything wrong,
and so I did. She did acknowledge the fact that, yes,
you guys warned me that we were videoing this, and
but again, I don't think she was that concerned about
it because she didn't say anything salacious.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, No, it wasn't bad. I don't think it was
that bad. You say a lot of things wrong, Okay,
you do, and you own it. So I want to you, yes, yes,
So I want to know if you're going to own
this at Bravo con mm hmm. You said that Teddy's
all In kills people now is a good friend of yours?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Did I say that you did? Okay? Well it's not
oz epic. Okay, Okay, maybe that was a little exaggerated.
I don't know of any reported deaths. It was just rumors.
I have no There's just a.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Question, would you if you were in the place where
you were prior to doing all in today, would you
do it again all in?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I would? I would do so.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
You're very thin right now? Are you on Ocempic?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I am not.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Have you dappled in it?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
No, I have taken one. I'll tell you why. I
have absolutely considered it. A lot of my friends have
lost a ton of weight doing it. I don't like
the side effects like, I cannot stand to be nauseous.
I have never tried.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
You can't drink?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh that too, I didn't. Yeah, it was more. It's
more about I can't stand to be nauseous.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
And of all that the bad shit the people said
about me at Bravo Con, everybody expected me to be
the most upset about your comment that my program kills people,
and I wasn't. I was like, oh, you know, Jeff.
People like, because why are you evented by it? And
I was like, because I know he did the program
and he did well on it, and he knows that
if I actually killed people. Do I think that Jeff

(06:02):
would be joking about it?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I don't really remember saying that. I'm sure I
did say it. No, no, no, no, this this was I
did the opening panel with Andy. Correct. That's when I
said it happened? Is that when I said it? So
if I did, I know I said it, I said it,
But did I did I? Did I follow up? Did
I follow it up with that I have done the program?
And then I did lose? Did I follow up? You didn't? You?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Actually? Well?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I meant to.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was it was just now, don't worry, don't worry, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's an incredibly effective program. It really is.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well it's okay, Jeff, I wasn't actually upset, but somebody
was upset at you at Bravo Con because you shaded Crystal.
You said, are you glad she's gone? And she called

(06:56):
you a bitchy guy.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
No, no, no, you know what she said to me
on the carpet, not to me about me. So look,
I wasn't a big fan of Crystals at all until
she did this. So when I I might have, you know,
been a little bit shady to her and she called
me a cocksucker on the.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Red carpet, Well that's truth to that.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
She's not wrong, and so I loved her from that
moment because she fought back. She's fighting back, and we
are now pretty close.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I really like Crystal.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I do too.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I wish that we could we could have seen Now
she's gone, obviously, but we could have seen, you know,
her calling Erica cocksucker or something. That would have been great.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, she couldn't called Erica a cocksucker.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, I'm just saying I'm not just throwing that out there.
I'm just saying I would have liked to see that
feisty side of her.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, we started to see the feisty side of her
in her third season, right, was it her third season? Yeah, okay,
we started seeing her feisty side, and so I guess
I was very confused by that casting decision to let
her go because look, she's not one of the highest
paid girls, right, She's newer, so it's not a money issue,
and she's really coming into her own now, and she

(08:02):
started to feel comfortable and more confident, and she started
to speak up for herself Exhibit A, and yes and
then now and then now you cut her.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But I think the same what happens on these shows
if you if it starts to feel too clicky, like
I think the relationship between Sutton and Garcel and Crystal felt.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Too like the Trace Omega.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, it felt daze and then they don't ever like that.
It's like the Fox Horst five or whatever it is.
Whenever you feel like there.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Is a bond, how you're saying that's why you got fired.
I'm saying that it never last.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Those bonds ever last like that. The next season it's
like it's three more.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, but we've now seen three seasons of Crystal, Sutton
and Garcel being connected.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, but I say something wrong with that. I
like that.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I like that. I felt like your third season, which
was your last season, you found your voice even though
you were pregnant, but you were you had the whole
doggy Gate situation going on. Your thought was no, that
was my second second season, and then going into third,
I feel like you were more vocal and then you
got asked.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, I also made a big gup my third season,
So I mean, I don't know that I needed to share.
I don't know that you just out Denise my third season.
But she had already outed herself on Howard Stern, so
it wasn't like I really.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
She was married to Charlie Shane, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean, either way, we've seen Crystal open up to
you on your show since Bravo con So that leads
me to ask you, what side do you on in
regards to this Anna Marie Crystal thing.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Oh I think I'm I'm on Crystal side for sure. Yeah. Absolutely?
Are they still fighting? Are they still she's still going on?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
She keeps like putting things out there on Twitter and
social media that's really really nasty.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Oh, I wasn't aware of that.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I don't did you ever meet Anna Marie?

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I did meet her. I actually I met her at
Kyle's White Party, and I really liked her. Thought she
was very nice. I just you know, I don't think
she looked right on the show, but in person, I
thought she was well.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
On social media she looks terrible. Oh okay, really really bad.
Do you went on Watch What Happens Live and said
that you were going to be filming on Orange County
this season?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
But then I found out it never happened. Did Andy
block you from doing that because she announced it or
you chose not to?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Why?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I chose not to because Bravo was not going to
indemnify me. So and not only were they not going
to indemnify me. So basically, if I said something to fammatory,
are you.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Going to say something to lammatory? It's the same contract
you signed to go on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
It's different though, because I was being.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
He was part of the story.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
You were not to sit down with anybody. You were
just there to be pretty.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's it's very different when you go to you know,
Kyle's White Party and you have you know, they catch
you a few lines. But when you're doing a sit
down and you're talking about a very sensitive topic.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Was it going to be one on one?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yes, it was going to be a one on lunch
with one on one You're going to talk about John correct. Yeah,
and uh, I believe that the same conversation happened with
someone else, but it wasn't as effective because I yeah,
I'm very privy to a lot of details and that

(11:14):
was why they wanted me to do it. But see,
the problem is is that we know that John Jansen
is litigious and it could have put me in a position,
a vulnerable position legally. But not only was Bravo not
going to indemnify me, which is mean they're not going
to let me use their lawyers to defend myself. They
wanted me to indemnify them. So I'm sorry, I'm not
getting paid for this. I'm doing my friend of favor

(11:37):
here and you guys a favor. You're not going to
indemnify me. You want me to indemnify you. What am
I getting out of this?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well? Speaking of getting out of this, you had Shannon
on your show this morning. Yes, is there anything that
you want to shift about camera zero? Oh?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Good?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Was it because you? Is it because you pussy footed
around in your conversation.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
No, I just look. What I have learned over the
last year is that, you know, a lot of these
I tend to insert myself in things that have nothing
to do with me, and I don't want it. I
don't need to fight other people's fights. And I've said
this over and over and over again when you talk
about the clicks right and the Trace Avegas. My favorite
part of OC Housewives was the Trace Avegas. That was

(12:20):
I am I the only one that loves to watch
these girls love each other, support each other, drink, have fun.
There is nothing more fun to watch than when the
three of you were connected and bonded and friends. I
don't disagree, and I always have this hope. I'm friends
with all three of them, and I have this hope
that one day we're going to be able to get

(12:40):
past all this. However, I and I'm you know, I'm
friends with Vicky. I don't like what happened recently at
one of the one of the Trace Avegas.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh, Vicky had this.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I do not like that. I am not behind that.
I do not support that.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They also Vicky came on your pod and talk shit.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, she talks about me too.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean on your show, I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't talk shit about Picky and I. I don't
get on my podcast and talk shit about Shannon. Like
what we do and we film on the show is
something totally separate. But outside of that, like, I'm not
going to sit there and bash her.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
But I do have a question. If you had to
pick one of the trace amigos. Oh, you can only
pick one.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
It's it's very, very hard. But I will tell you.
I've you know, I've been friends with Shannon the longest. No, No,
Shannon and I are very close.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I actually introduced you. So we're going to lunch. He
talks to Shannon Moore.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
We do business together, you and me.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah we do.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
But you haven't picked.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I don't want to pick. I don't want to pick. Said.
I even said today I was in the parking structure
and I said to Shannon, like I really because it's true,
like I don't like this discord. And you know, all
I can.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Say Jeff lewis new tagline I hate the drama.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
No it's I didn't say hate it. I just said
I shouldn't insert myself in it. But I do hope.
What worries me is that when Vicky has an audience
at an event chat chant camera that shows her character, well,
it just it takes things a little too far and
at that point it's it's very hard to get over that.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Do you understand I've done nothing to Vicky. Nothing. In fact,
probably a week prior to that we were texting. I
had no idea. There was you know, conversations about me
quitting Trace Amigas, and they knew clearly why I did it,
and it was to me, no hard feelings.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
The most vicious fights, the nastiest fights you see, is
usually because there is a real love there. Right, there's hurt. Yes,
So when we don't care about people and they talk
shit about us, do we care now? We don't care? Yeah,
But when our friends do, why because we care about
them care. So I think that there has always been
a deep love between you and Shannon and Vicki. We've
seen it time and time again, and that that's what

(15:00):
this is about. This is about hurt, This is about
being hurt.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Do you think this is about hurt or do you
think this is truly about jealousy? And not in parts
to you? But like I think there's a time where
the friendship gets overlooked by the want for fame or
the want for financial gain. And if you're willing to
overlook your friends for that, how do you get over that.

(15:22):
I mean, you've been in this situation.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Before, I think, Okay, So what I'm seeing from Afar
is that you've had incredible success right in the last
several years, not only with TV, with the podcast, with
your business. Your business is I mean, you have an
incredible business that be to CBD, which, by the way,
thank you, it is the only way I sleep at night.

(15:45):
I take one every single night. If I don't take
one of those gummies, I'm up sixteen times. So thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I think that, yes, as you know, it's natural to
kind of want what your friends have. And I think
I think with Vicki and not having the show like
you do, and not having Veen, I mean, she has
a good business, but I think that this whole trace
Amegas tour was a means for both of them to
create a separate source of income, and they felt at

(16:14):
the time that they really needed you to make that happen.
Now they've since uh, they've since done it without you.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Is it as successful, I don't know. Are they selling
as many, you know, as many tickets? I don't know,
because again you know that we want.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I wish them all the success in the world. I
really really do, and I think that they can do
it for me. I can't get too much into it
because obviously it is part of the show this season.
It just didn't make sense for me anymore.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
And I get that.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
And I was so busy, and I'm splitting my time
between Big Bear and Orange County, and the less I
have to travel, the better.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
And it sounds to me from you that you were
very clear that you could.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Very clear couldn't commit Crystal class.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
So whether they heard that or chose to hear it
or not hear it, you know, there's some hurt feelings.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, they keep saying publicly. Tarma didn't even respond to us.
She responded to the agent Paris. So they hired when
I was in Scotland doing Traders. They hired an agent
and a management company and all this stuff. So I
got a text message after me and Shannon had already
had a little bit of an argument from Paris. The

(17:26):
agent Paris asked me, hey, Shannon and Vicky are in.
I have some more shows coming up that you guys
could potentially do, and I said, I'm sorry. At this point,
I just don't want to continue. They never once reached
out to me, like me and Vicky were in perfect
good terms. She could have said like, hey, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I get to them before going into Traders that I
can't get It.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Was actually it was actually after Traders. It was when
the first show that Doug did with us and was
Arizona Phoenix, and we had a meeting and I said, listen, guys,
I don't have a lot of time, love spare time,
so don't commit on don't rely on me. Maybe find
a backup. You know, I was trying to work with them.
I will try to make it a priority, but if

(18:09):
I have other things going, I just you know, the
podcast is huge and so it's it's really difficult, but
I wish them all the luck.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Okay, here's the thing, though, I feel like where things
go too far, it just you know, I know that
you're being careful about the personal attacks. I think that
I've had some falling out. You know, I've had fallings
out with people, especially recently, and I think you just
have to be very very careful because you start to
say things publicly that you just can't come back from.
And if if you still care about that person, and

(18:38):
you are, you know, you have any sort of desire
in the future to reconcile, you have to be very
careful about what you said. So I, you know, you
you were talking to me about Heather McDonald earlier.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I wasn't going to bring her I don't I mean transition.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I just felt like that is a rift.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Where does your relationship stand right now?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Between you and we do not We do not have
a friendship. We do not have a relationship. We were friends.
There was like me, real feelings and you know, and uh,
and I think that was one of the reasons why
it got so nasty, because we did care about each
other and we were both hurt and we heard each other.
And I have said, you know, I said publicly on

(19:21):
the show that I have regrets and there's things that
I should not have inserted myself in or got involved in.
But there have been things said since that it's really
can't we can't go back.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's made it easier for you to go We're done.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
It's not about easy, it's not easy. It's just the
things that have been said now about me publicly. It's
just we can't go back.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So does she go on her podcast and talk about you?

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Not anymore, But she did for a very long period
of time.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Like a kind of like seven months, like seven points.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, it went on for about seven months, like about
your character. Yes, you know that I don't support women.
She compared me to Harvey Wine. What it was it
was really yeah, I mean really really blow the belt.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, I saw her after all that happened. I was
at the hideaway and I forget what she was mad
at me for, but I was somehow tied to you
or the situation. And she walked in and it was
like a casual night. We're all like pretty much in sweats,
and she came in. She was in this like bright
yellow gown. She walked housewives and then like turned around

(20:25):
and like ran out of that. I was like, I
can't even remember what I did.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I'm actually surprised she did that, because I feel like
she would have even if she didn't want to. She'd
go over there and she tried to talk to you. No,
she would get content to go back to her pout.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
She doesn't do that with me, like there's like a radio,
there's something there, But I don't I cannot even remember
what I did.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I know you went at her Brabacan because of me.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
We were friends for a long time.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And how did this fight start?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Let's not let's not go to but I do have
a question. What do you think there's a better likelihood
of happening the trace Amiga's reconciling or you reconciling with Heather?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Hmm, you know, I don't know. I do give people
second and third and fourth and fifth chance.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
You're not done with Heather.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I'm not saying I'm not done. I just I do
think that, you know, it would take a while, probably
for both of us to recover from what we said
to each other about each other.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Was it your fault the fight?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I think it was both of our faults. I think
we both have. I certainly contributed.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
All right, Well, let's move on from Heather because we
have to do some other would you rather would you
rather see Lisa Renna or Kim Richards back on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I think Lisa Renna. I think Kim is a great
friend of I don't know about a full time cast member.
I mean Lisa was born to do this. I mean
she's so good and I think Lisa probably.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Do you prefer Sonya Morgan or Brent Whitfield, Well.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I've never met Brnn, so I would say Sonya.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, one has to go. Sutton or Guard.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Well, that's actually a very that's kind of a tough
decision because I think they're both very valuable to the show.
But I'm closer to something, so I guess if I
had two, would be Garcel. But I think they both
are great on the show.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And if you had to pick between the three Atlanta Housewives,
who would you decide to come back? Kenya, Charree or Drew.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Kenya Probably? She's a big ship.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Starr, are you bummed about?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I don't understand, Like, what are you doing with this woman?
It's like, you know, you hire or fire her? You
hire her, you fire.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Her the most fired housewives.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
It's nuts. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't know what you're going to get at this point.
Why do you keep bringing her like it's like dangling
the carrot and then But I.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Do feel like she's good.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
We all enjoy her. Nobody doesn't enjoy her even when
she does shit like shitty things. But I like watching her.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
But because they're bringing yes financial financially, because they're bringing
Poorsche back. They kept Drew, I believe because Drew and
porschear could friends.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And remember it's a money thing. It's a budget thing,
you know, especially with the ogs. You know, the OG's
command higher salaries.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But do you come back so like, let's say you
did three seasons, you left, then you came back for two,
Like do you automatically get brought back as that number that?
You know what I'm saying, That's what I don't think.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I think that's why what they do is they take
someone like Tamra, who's how many seasons were you on
before t twelve twelve seasons, who's making probably more money
than you know, any housewife, and then they let you go.
You're gone a season or two, and then they bring
you back and they renegotiate. And I remember when Flipping
Out got canceled, I had a conversation with them. I
was at Netflix and that was kind of going south,

(23:41):
and I went back to Bravo and I said, is
there a world where we would bring Flipping Out back?
And they said yes, but we wouldn't pay you what
we were paying you before.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
And would you ever do it at a reduced rate?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You know, I would have if I had not had
other options, But I had other options.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Well, now you have your news show on.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yes, and I love working for Amazon incredibly, Like I
make considerably more money than I did it problem, Oh really,
oh considerably?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well what's the viewership difference?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I actually think it's a bigger platform.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
But I am just curious it's a bigger.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Platform because I'm on Prime and freebe that's amazing, And
I thought Freebee is they're getting rid of that, they're consolidating. Yes,
so then I and then I'll just be on.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I don't even know what the difference is between the
two of them.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Is you have to have free to watch.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You have there's ads, where Prime, if you're a Prime member,
there's no ads.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I guess I had to download Tobo or whatever, I've
never even heard of it before to be to bo
just so I could watch the p Diddy documentary like
I needed.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
He's got a documentary already. Oh I don't even want
to see that guy's face.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, I mean it's not him doing it himself. It's
called the Downfall of p.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Diddy, So he's probably not involved in that.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, he didn't, He didn't do any interviews, probably, yeah,
he probably didn't.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Did you watch the Ashley Madison documentary?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
If somebody just told me about that? Is it? Is
it three episodes?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, I need to watch it.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
You need to watch it.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
What would you do if you found out that somebody
that you were with was on Ashley Madison? Oh?

Speaker 4 (25:11):
It lose my shit? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Like what?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But what do you think that any of your past
partners would have known they had thirty two days to
tell you that it was going to be leaked? Or
do you think they would have waited until just the
Internet released it? Like, do you think they would have
had the balls.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You would have?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Like, because a lot of these guys waited, They really
hoped that.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
They would not be well, there was like thirty million
or something like thirty eight million million people were subscribing
to this.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I would say thirty seven million of them did
not come clean prior. They just waited for their names
to be Like, yeah, why.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Would you come clean if you don't have to?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
But you're going you know, you have eight days? You
know your name is coming out? Would you come clean?
I would have to come clean, I'd be like I
would just I accidentally signed up. I clicked this thing
by accident and immediately put my at a card info
in Like I would have had to say something.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I yeah, no, I'm not really, I'm not a cheater.
So I probably would wait till I was broken up
with someone before I started dating other people. So you yeah, Now,
have I met someone that I'm interested when I'm in
a relationship and did I date that person after the fact? Yes?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
But do you think you're having an emotional affair during your.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
These were a long time ago, But I did. I
did meet someone before I was out of my relationship,
but we didn't, I mean, nothing really happened, but there
was an emotion.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yes, I married him.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
There was an emotional affair. It was quick though, like
it was it was only a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Do you think would you even say it was love
or it was just that high of like being with
somebody that was really endt you and giving you the things?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah? I mean it lasted for a year, that's pretty long. Yeah.
And then he cheated.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Then he cheated.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Oh I tell you this story, This is a guy
like I was in my thirties. This guy. Yes, So
when I was I started.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Dating in the public eye.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
No, when I started dating him, I was dating someone
else right because I was single. So I was, you know,
just dating like two or three people whatever casually. And
he's like, I I don't want to see anyone else.
I want to be committed. I said, okay, So I
committed to him. A year later. I remember, I'll never
forget this as long as I live. He he'd gone

(27:33):
out with his friends and it was kind of late morning,
and he usually will check in with me. So I
called him and I said what's up? And he goes,
I have I have something to tell you, And he said,
last night, I was out with my buddies. I went
to a bar, I had some drinks, and I went
home with someone. And it was the guy that he
told me to break up with. To commit to him, No,

(27:56):
a year prior, A year prior, you can't make this
shut up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did they stay together?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (28:04):
And then he tried to get back with me, but
there was no way. It was over.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Where did they go out?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
But then he did something kind of hot though, and
we had like a one.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Nighter because of course you did.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
But I'll tell you what he did. So we were
broken up. Months had gone by and I was living
in those felis I remember, and it was like this
big property. It was just you know, it's this really
cool big property. Because I'll never forget because off the
primary bedroom, that's what I saw. It was, No, you've
never been there. It was this huge pool. It was
gorgeous backyard, and it was like eleven o'clock maybe midnight.

(28:34):
All of a sudden I hear splashing. No, this was
like three months later, splashing.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
He came and broke into your house.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
He was skinny dipping in your pool.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Of course it was so try hard, it was hot,
try hard.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
But it didn't you know, and it didn't go anywhere,
but it was fine.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Do you have a type, Like, if you could pick
one celebrity that could be your hall pass above all
hall passes, who would it be.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I don't know about celebrities, but it has to be one.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
We know, because you can't just name somebody.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I've always I've always liked that Scott Speedman. You know
who he is, of course I do. It's so funny
because I'm not normally like, drawn to like blondeaged, engaged
blonde with her for ten years.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
How's it going with you? Engage?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
We engaged in a lot of litigation last year, but
we are. We've settled everything. Everything new custy schedule, h
new child support, him out, attorneys, all of it. It's
all settled now.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
You were telling me in the green room about Monroe,
and she seems to be a little sassy like her dad.
And she was talking about your death and where she
wants to move when you die.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yes, that's true. She she loves the Tower Bar. She
wants to move into the Sunset Hotel.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You mean where John Merrowy stays.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yes, and Andy, so she has I mean, she's really
kind of fixated on this, and she's she's thought about
it in detail, because she said, I have a lot
of things I'm gonna have to hire remover. Like she really,
I'm like, I'm not dead, Like I'm not talking about it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like she's going to her stuff in baskets, and she
was all ready.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
She's like, she's she's ready to go. She's got a backup. Happens.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
She's a planner, you know what, She's getting it done.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
So here's the problem. So Shane is now my chief
of staff. Right, he's really assistant, but he changed his
name to chief of staff.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
And the problem is is that if something happens to me,
he has no skills. What's he gonna do? What's he
gonna do for a living.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
So you can get it, take care of you, spend
your money.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Key Man. You can get a key Man insurance policy.
Who did Vicky?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Of course? Has Vicky sold Monroe any health insurance on you?

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Vicky has sold uh.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Policy insurance policies in case you.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
So Vicky has is selling Shane key Man insurance because
something happens to me, he'll get it. He'll get paid
out because he's.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Your key You guys could ever fall in love what
you and Shane?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, Shane's like my kid, He's like my son.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I also heard that you tried to adopt Shane.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I did.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Why he's twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
But in my defense, he was twenty three at the time. Oh,
you were twenty five, So yes, I did send a paperwork,
legal paperwork to his parents and his parents said no, and.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're like no, he's a grown man with his own
life and friends, Like this is creepy.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
But Shane wanted because he financially then you know again
if something happens, but now you've got that key Man insurance,
so that Vicki's selling you, so you're gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So Shane wasn't happy with what he was going to
get if his parents died, so he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Make sure he latched onto Monroe's inhered.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
He felt his parents are being selfish because his parents
have you know they have, uh. I think their biggest
asset is their home like most people, and it.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Wasn't enough for him.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
He was upset because yes, he split it three ways
with his four ways with the brother, so there wasn't
there's not gonna be a ton left. So he just
felt his parents are being self No.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's smart.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Are you here up today?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Fully on? Like all the Bravo shows? What's your not?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I'm not up to date on all of them. I
can't watch all of them. I'm watching Jersey right now.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Let's talk about Jerseys, So let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
If one has to go, Melissa, Teresa, who is it?
M m hmm.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I guess I think I'd probably let Teresa go.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Good luck to you on social media.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
On social media.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Just set me up. I don't even know is that
a problem. I just just my opinion. Well, you told
me I mean to get fired, you just give me
a choice. I don't. Oh god, Okay, how do you.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Feel the show is going? They're clearly filming a show
that's split right down the middle.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Well, I thought that they really were going to split
it down the middle where you're going to have you
know you're gonna never seen you never see them together.
You are seeing them together, you know you are seeing
that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
They just don't speak.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, and I you know, I personally it was, God,
it was. It's just so nasty between the two of them.
I'm sick of seeing it. I don't want to see it.
So if they have to keep them apart, but you know,
I'm not not enjoying the show.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Though Julia Fox made a good comment. She goes, Andy,
I think at this point you need to step in.
You either tell them if they're going to be on
the show together, they have to film, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Or you're gone or one of them is gone.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
But I think giving people that are on a show
regardless if I would say the same thing about Tamra
or whomever, it may be if you're on a show,
filming an ensemble television show, you should not have the right.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Like I met with Margaret prior to her filming, she
did her pre interview with Bravo, talked about the new season,
and she told me she was told at that time
that they didn't have to film together. And I said
to her, I don't think that's a good idea. I
think that you're they're going to draw a line in
this and this is not going to be ensemble cast anymore.
It's not going to work. So my advice would just

(34:05):
film with her.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
But do you had better watching it this season?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I am enjoying it so far.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
It is what's your favorite?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
M I mean, I have my favorites. I love Dolores,
I love Margaret, I love Melissa, I like jen Fessler.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I think jen Aiden's gone.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Uh, you haven't even.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Seen her this season.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I know, Oh, we've only seen her like maybe, yeah,
we haven't seen much of her.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
You've heard what's going on on social media with jen Aiden?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Right, No, you guys are more in tuned to that
than I am. If it's not about me, I don't really.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
So.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Evidently she was giving screeners to bloggers and giving them
presents to direct posts in her favor.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So like example, if why.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Haven't we thought of that? Shane?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I know what that?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Now they're outing her.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Oh what about vander Pump, because I will say, you
watching vander Pump.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yes, hold on it. Did you like the Valley of
vander Pump rolls better?

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Okay, I haven't watch the belt. Shane loves the Valley.
Shane loves the Valley. I'm going to finish Vanner Pump
and then I'm jumping into the Valley team Janet.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I just mess.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I just met Janet. She was very sweet. She's just
doing her job.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Leave the girl alone, right, I'm gonna I'm going to
watch the Valley when I'm done with vander Pump.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm almost I suspect that they're going to phase out
van and.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I don't think so. I think they're going to bring
in a full new cast of It's my interesting guess.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Well, look, I think that you know, I feel bad
for Ariana, and I know that you're going to say
it's an ensemble cast. You sign up for, you took
the paycheck, the whole thing. But again, the producers tell
you one thing and then they do another right, so
they say, oh, you don't have to talk to Tom the
entire season, we're going to film separately. But then they
put you in the same room with him non stop.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But they live together.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
True, But she's also they're they're trying to with They're
out of that now. Yeah, that in an entanglement. They
were trying to get out of that situation, right, But.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
If you want out of entanglement, you don't sign on
to do another ensemble cast with that person.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
You just don't unless the producer says you don't have
to film with them.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Which then you don't. But you don't have to require
the other people on your cast not to film with them.
That's the difference. If she were just to say, I
refuse to do anything with him, but I'm fine for
my friends to do whatever. But that's not what happened.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
God, I'd love to film with them if I was her,
so I could just yeah, nihilate riling.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Like, but that's the difference. Like if you and I
were best friends and we and Tarma was my girlfriend
and she had sex with somebody else and you were
a part of it and blah blah blah, and I
were to say listen. I I refuse to film with Tarmra.
That's fine. I can refuse to. She broke my heart.
But me telling you that you have to refuse to

(36:39):
is weird.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, but it's also And I keep reminding everybody that
you know, they picked those cameras up months after this,
after it happened. Months Like how.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Many days after you Engage broke up did you film
the radio show?

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Well, I will tell you see so Flipping Out was
canceled in season eleven. Yeah, after season eleven we broke up.
I think that the god, the universe, whatever you believe in,
was protecting me because I think season twelve would have
been my downfall. I mean, I was in such a
bad place. I was lashing out everywhere. I was unbearable.

(37:12):
I was making self destructive decisions. Is that when I
was so sad, unhappy, angry? Like it?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Just say it was the problem back then?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
What was the problem with you?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
What was what was going on?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
I mean, look, I take response, I take responsibility from
from my participation in whatever happened with Gage and I.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
But so was it the breakup with Gauge that made
you spiral.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Or there was a lot of there was a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
About the cancelation of your show.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
There were a lot of bad things that happened, so
it was a combination.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
But if you had some really amazing things happen at
the same time, do you think it maybe would have
picked up your spirits.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Nothing amazing happened, it was like, really right, that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
But yeah, that's what I'm saying. But at the same time,
if you'd booked another one, like top television show, and
then you got booked on Broadway and then you booked
every single commercial, that's.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
You're saying that if my career.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Suddenly and of your entire career, don't you think you
could have had a little pep in your step.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
A lot of people keep saying that, like, oh, you
should reframe and just take a look at the fact
that you've you're having all this financial But what she
really wanted is you know, I mean that relationship was
very important to her, Her heart was, But.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't really did get a boyfriend, like two weeks later,
ten days.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Feels a little like a rebound though, and I don't know,
we're still together, yeah, yeah, but the show I'm not
really feeling it between them.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Are you no, I think I think it's a place.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Is that the guy with the man bun?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
His hair is like, I don't like the hair. I
can't stand that he does have a good body.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
No man should have a man bun.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I think when she comes to when she's out of
this place, I think she would eat him alive. Now
she's like in a very demure place and like holding back,
and she's right. But I think once she comes back
into it, I don't think she's gonna last with Dan
because I think Dan is very passive and he kind

(39:07):
of reminds me of Janet's husband, who I haven't learned
his name yet, but I'm I'm getting there. Jason Jon,
Oh my gosh, do you like him on the Valley?
He's a good guy, right, eat him alive?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I like them all. I even like Jack's. I never
was a big Jackson.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
You haven't seen the recent episode?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Oh what did he do? Is he yelling?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I know?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I love jack all right, so I have to ask.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
The last Valley episode, there's a huge fight between Jackson
and Brittany because Brittany is once again throwing up. It's
been years and years and years of Brittany and having
a relationship with alcohol that upsets her. Also drink, and
she throws, well, this is what jack stands to drink.
Don't drink now that you're he keeps saying, now that

(39:52):
you're a mother, you shouldn't drink. Meanwhile, Jackson is on
like his second bottle of tequila, and he's like essentially
coming at her on the show, you drink that much?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
No, I thought he was such a good dad. He's
always worried about his little boy.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
I don't know, you might need to catch up.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I haven't watched the last time. Oh no, I watched
Big Bear.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, well, second round of Big Bear. It's really bad.
But my question is, do you think once you have kids,
Now that you've had Monroe, do you think it's fair
to say that one person in the relationship change and
not the other. I'm sorry because he keeps saying, you're
a mother now, you shouldn't be drinking. You're a mother now,
you shouldn't do this. You're a mother now. But he

(40:35):
hasn't changed anything about his lifestyle. He's opening a bar,
he's partying, he's doing all these things. He's getting but
he's like, I can handle my alcohol, so you can't.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Right, So I don't have to grow up, but you do.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Right, But do you think that's fair? Like, do you
even think there's a justify fair? No?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
No, of course it's not fair.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
But it also like, I don't know, there's just something
I wish you were up to day because they're broken off.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Now, clearly it was, But do you.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Think that those two knowing them? I know both.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
You know I'm not even supposed to be here.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Can we talk about that, Jeff? When we got here,
we walked in. First of all, I walked from the
parking structure and he shut the elevator on me and
went up.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I didn't know it was you, in my defense, But okay,
and can I tell you something?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Did you think it was me?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Because you walked right by me when I was eating
my Chinese chicken? Salady?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
If I do sometimes I do that where I should
be holding the elevator because I see someone walking to
the elevator.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Oh no, I do the opposite. I shut it. I
shut it really quick.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yes, you actually you actually will shut.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
The Oh yeah, I press the button.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Yes, I mean I'll press the button like you know,
floor eight. But no, but you see someone kind of
walking quickly like hoping to catch the elevator and I'm
not doing anything and I just watch them. But I
didn't know it was you. I didn't know it was you.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Actually I think Sofio was the one standing out there
and you haven't seen her since she was a little kid.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
But I am not allowed to be doing any sort
of radio shows or podcas has outside of Serious ExM
or the Serious ExM owned podcast networks, allegedly unless I have.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Permission, and you didn't get permission, no.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Because it takes weeks, and I I just feel like
this is going to be under the radar.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Who is no one's going to hear this?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Who was the worst guest ever on your radio show?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
If you say me, Jeff, I will it's.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
You're a great best You actually are a great guest.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Because you said, doesn't shut up.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Actually you're a talker. That makes our that makes our
job so much easier.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
But when you say in front of something, it's not
a compliment.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Sorry, you are a great guest.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Actually, Jeff lewis life allegedly allegedly, so there's no guest
you would never have back.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
So people will come on. You know, I have regulars
because I'm on five days a week, two hours a day,
so I have a lot of regulars. And sometimes if
they had a bad weekend or they have issues with
their partner or their husband, wife, whatever, sometimes they come
in and they just don't talk, and you know, I
get one where answers. The other day I got is
Jolie Fisher, who is a friend of mine, the actress. Yeah,

(43:06):
she's been on several times for whatever reason. The last
time she was on, she wasn't giving me a lot.
I don't know what happened. I don't know what was
going on that morning or the night before whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
She just don't feel like to Was.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
She giving you a lot of breakfast?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I know, but they don't know that until you wake
up that morning.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
But did she was giving me much at breakfast before?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Because always when you do Jeff's show, you go and
you have breakfast first and you do a little just
so you guys know, we meet right below where he
does his radio show, and we have a little oatmeal
or bagel or whatever it is a coffee, So you
have thirty minutes of chat time before you go up.
So that's pretty much where he gets all of his
information to then throw you under the bus on the show.
Yes did Jolie? Was she giving stuff up?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
It was a quiet day for her, and it was
unusual because it's not normally she's very talkative. So Josh Flagg,
I never know with him. I love the guy, he's
my friend. I never know is is he going to
talk to me today or not? And so to be
honest with you, I will never put him on alone
again because I get scared. I don't know if this
is going to be a day of one word answers
or not. So I'm always pairing Josh with somebody now

(44:07):
because there was one or two times where he just
didn't contribute, But then there's other times where he's got
he is, he's on, he's charismatic, he's got storytelling. But
there's just I have guests that are inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Is my I can't remember her name and I follow
her on Instagram. She's on your show a lot. She's
so freaking funny. She has a baby, a little boy.
Oh Jackie Shimmel, Yes, Bible, Yes, she's the Why can
I remember her name?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
On her Instagram?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Is hilarious, hilarious, She's so funny. And then when she's
on your show. It's her show. She talks the entire time.
It well, she entire time. She has.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
She has a very successful podcasts.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Called Bitch Bible. You guys, she just had on Lindsey
from some summer house.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
They did a test with her at Serious XM and
you know, I think it could have been money too,
like if they wanted to pick her up, and I
think it might have been. What you have to know,
because she does very well with the Bitch Bible, So
I imagine it could have been a money thing where
they they decided not to move forward, but they were
looking at a think a three day a week show

(45:19):
with her, something like that, Shane, But it was I
think it was gonna be very expensive.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
But if you guys need a good time, go to
her highlight about when she had pink eye at Paris
Fashion Week.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
She's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
It honestly will give you so much joy.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Does she stand up but.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Her live show she should and it was. It was
very funny. It was actually very crowded. There was a
lot of people there and Stossy was on with her
that day. Oh that loves too amazing has been on
your show?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
She hasn't, But I mean, we're good friends, but she
doesn't want to talk about all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
So it's like, you're right, where's making weaver? Did you
piss her off too?

Speaker 4 (45:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Oh your pause?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Just seen her or heard her on your show in
a while?

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, she hasn't. She hasn't been on in a while,
but she's going. She's doing the live show. We're doing
a live show or vine next week. It's sold out,
and then she's doing the radio show the next weet us.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
But it's weird that you didn't ask us to be
on that we.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Had some we had some working personal friendship issues that no,
well maybe, but I I think we're just kind of
taking We're not taking a pause, we're not taking a break.
We're taking a little distance from each other.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
It got too intense the relationship.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
It's not intense, it's I felt too comfortable. I felt
like we were closer friends than we were, and I
was hurt and disappointed by a few things that happened.
And and you know, Tamra, I'm I imagine you can
relate to this, but I get uncomfortable when someone is

(47:00):
really good friends with all of my enemies, you know
what I mean, not just one, not two, not three,
like four, Like she's friendly with four of my like worst, biggest.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Because one of them gave me a ride and Bravo
con I don't like that. Can we talk about one
of your enemies? Because the day I was leaving The
day I was leaving, Bravo kN you know how they
like send all of our cars out at the same time.
Mine was taking a while, but Ginny Pulos's was coming
right out. So I with her to Jet sweet X. Yeah,

(47:36):
she did a panel, so I hitched a ride with her.
But I couldn't help but feel awkward. Just I don't
know why I love you, but I was like, have
all this love for you? So I just was like
very quiet. But have you spoken to her at all?
Because this is the biggest fan question.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Where we are? You know, we don't have a relationship.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
We haven't had one in years, zero communication.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Again, this goes back to sometimes we take things too
far that you can't come back from.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
You follow her on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I do not know it was bad.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I I don't if I fight with somebody, I don't
unfollow them because all the followers she can get.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I think, you know, there was some.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Accounts almost as high as yours and I was only
on three years eight, I almost twice as high as you.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
And I don't know if you know all the details
of that story, Tamera, but it really, it really was
a relationship that I tried to I tried to maneuver
it in the best way that I could, and it
wasn't good enough. And she had lashed out and did
some very very really really.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Low You think they were personal issues or do you
think it was business business? That's what I was gonna say.
It always comes.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Back to business of my business, my money, my reputation. Yes,
it's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
About the trace of me once you involved financial it
was really really yeah, it was bad, Like we can
all be assholes?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Are your Soila is still working pegdnt every weekend?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
She's got a commercial. I just saw it or no?
Was it just all your Instagram at that's funny. I
liked it.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
She has a commercial on your and she still works
every weekend.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, it's about him for getting flowers so you can
get Mother's Day flowers. This is too late, but I
saw it. I enjoyed it. Good job. Can we talk
Beverly Hills for a second to other big fan questions,

(49:37):
what are your thoughts under Eat and PK?

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Well, I had known that they were living apart long long,
long before.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Long before Erica said that at Bravo Con.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Long before, because I have a mutual friend of p
KS and so that person in confidence and I have not.
I never said anything on the air because this person
told me in confidence, do not say anything, and I
didn't believe it or not. I can keep once in
a while, I can keep a secret. But I knew
long before that he was living in a hotel, and

(50:10):
you know, it's been going on for a long time.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Here's the thing I wonder now, now that the fire
has been lit to discuss it, where do you think
it'll go from here? Do you think it's going to
bring up the last three years of issues or do
you think we're just going to talk about current like
because we all heard.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
That was going to be a season. Are they going
to be filming?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, so look, I think this I don't think you
know what we'll know is this This is not a
fabricated storyline. This is really what is happening in their lives,
which probably will make her storyline a bit more interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
You're doing some live shows coming up? Where can we
all get tickets?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Well, the Irvine show is sold out. I think San
Francisco sold.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Out, but also not two tickets were It's weird that
the we your Irvine. What guests are you having an
Irvine that you thought? Oh, I shouldn't ask Tamra and
Teddy it's Shannon.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Oh, I don't have any special I don't have any
special guests on this one. Oh, okay, I understand because
sometimes in the past I've done that. Yeah, I do understand, Patty,
this one. Note, this one is just chumps. So if
you listen to my show, the co hosts and the
listeners they call it. Well, David Badour called me a
chomp like six times, and then that's stuck, and so

(51:27):
now I started calling myself a chump.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I have a good question. You brought this up. Sorry,
then we'll go back to your your show. Would you
rather have sex with David Badour or John Jansen?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Mm hmm, Well I've been privy to the anatomy of both, Yes,
so I probably think I would probably job.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So continue on about the live show
you're not having No, Well, I have really distracted that
you both pud John.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Because we've heard inside information.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
I think he's pretty good in bad John. It's from
what I heard.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Everybody. Just so you guys know that I'm going to
break the fourth wall like sided, but like everybody's showing
me things and inchest and I'm unwell, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
No, where do you say I with Alexis Polaine.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Now, I imagine we're not in a good place. It's
too bad because we were friendly and no, but I've
you know, I've been defending publicly defending Shannon. I've not
happy with what has transpired with John and Alexis. I
haven't I haven't gone after her. I don't think I've
gone after her publicly. Have I shared her personally or personally? Look,

(52:47):
I think number one, I don't like seeing my friend hurt.
So I found that extremely hurtful. I know that that
Alexis and Channon weren't good friends.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
But you know, we weren't friends at all.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Okay, they weren't friends, but it's just it's a little
close to home. It is close to home, and I
imagine it would be you know, if I was in
that situation, it would be very, very hurtful, and especially
also you have to feel like I would feel very
betrayed by the producers because I don't really think Alexis
would have been asked back if she wasn't.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
She was already being talked to.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I'm sure they were talking to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Know they weren't talking to it.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Actually, who I hadn't gotten it off.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Well, maybe if you'd started dating John Jansen.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Well, now that I know what you guys have told me,
maybe I will. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I think I see it in a different way, and
it has like I did. Even when me and Shannon
were not speaking and I did find out that John
and Alexis were dating, I did send Channon a text
message and said, I'm so sorry that would you know
that would break my heart. I know that you're not
feeling great about this, but I had no idea because
I had a friendship with Alexis and she kept telling me,

(53:59):
you know, they're not they were just friends. It's not
even that.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
They're dating that's a problem for me. It's the social
media I don't love. But that being said, I'm going
to see Alexis soon and get to know her a
little better, and then maybe I'll have a different thought.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Prom But I will also say, if Eddie, you know,
God forbid you and Eddie break up, get divorced, he starts,
he starts dating Jen Pedantry last name. Yeah, I would
be I would not be happy, but.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
He knows her, like they wouldn't be happy about that
they had a friendship. But I'm just saying, like something.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Is now a good time to tell you that me
and Eddie have consummated reship.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
That's all right? Me and ted and me and Teddy,
me and Edwin.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Why are you outing us? Cam? No?

Speaker 3 (54:45):
But I think it's a different situation. It's like if Eddie,
you know, I mean Eddie broke up and then suddenly
he's dating like Joe Dala Rosa or something something down
the line, that to me would be still sting. I mean,
if he's dating anybody would sting.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
But if and Joe Dyler, then they hid back to
the show like bug you.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
It was very fresh. It was very fresh.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Two last questions before we wrap. So remember when you're
on Watch What Happens Live with Bethany and all all
hell broke clearly, all hell broke loose? Do you think
the reality reckoning started in that moment? And then what
are your thoughts on where it's gone since then.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
I don't know what. I really don't know how it started,
I you know, in regardless, but what was happening there, Well,
the crazy part is is that you know, Bethy and
I have we've we've spoken at length since then, and
I apologized because when I do watch what Happens live, like,
I actually was excited that night because I knew that
I could spar and have fun with her because she
normally can take it. She can take it, she gives

(55:42):
it back. I love when somebody like Crystal when she
called me a cocksucker. I mean, I that turns me on,
Like I love when people come for me.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You realize that she's a competitors.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Really it's great. That would turn me on every day,
Like when I said that, I love when people give
it back to me. So I was very excited that
day and to be on the show with Bethany. And
then you know, maybe Andy and I kind of ganged
up a little bit, maybe went too far with the jokes,
but we really didn't mean anything by it, and there
was no pre planned like attack or anything like that.
But I said to her, you know, I, you have

(56:13):
to understand these were my intentions. I understand how it
hurt your feelings. I'm very sorry, and we had a
really nice conversation.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
And voice or it was voice or text.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Oh, no, I spoke to her. I called her.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Because there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yeah, I agree to call her. Yeah, no, I called her.
We talked. We're all good. But this is what I
will tell you about the reality reckoning. I have had
a very different experience Bravo. I had a good deal.
Bravo treated me well, I think comparatively to everyone else.
You know. I used to joke that I had the
presidential suite and the cruise ship. They so I had

(56:49):
a very good experience working with Bravo. And I think
everyone has different deals and I had a good one.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
So what year did I also think that different people
seven started a year to New York. We started the
same year, the same year. But I also think that
different cast members or talent have thicker skin than others.
So some people get so upset if they're editing edited

(57:22):
wasn't what they expected it to be, and then they
think it's the network's fault. It's like, sweetie, when you
signed that contract and you signed all your rights away,
but Also, you can't be when you it's completely.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Out of something that you did. If you said it
or you did it, it happened, it happened. Yeah, whether
you wanted to do it on your own, you did
it on your.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Like I think people get pissed off. Telling gets pissed
off because they look bad in a scene, but in the.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Bad multiple seasons. Who Bethany, Well, she did it to herself,
that right, But that's my But what do you think
spurred this entire because I feel like she was still
on the ends with Bravo, with the network. All the
things then that Watch What Happens Live happened and then
we started.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
But I think she was a little deeper for her.
She wanted us to have health insurance and things like that,
which I would mind, or royalties would be nice to.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I think it all royalties do happen in some circumstances.
So I know people that have received residuals Lisa vander Pump,
so it, Like I said, every deal is different. So
I think it depends on your deal and who value be,
What attorney did you have, what's your relationship with the
production company. Now I don't believe the network does any

(58:37):
sort of residuals. But you also you you know, there's
also a deal with the production.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I think if you've been a housewife for ten years,
or you've been on Bravo for ten years, anything after that,
you should be able to get like royalties.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
But also we had to be clear, no matter what
franchise you guys are watching, most of the time, it's
different production companies. So for the record, Orange County and
Beverly Hills share a production company, but Miami is not
the same. So I think when you're watching the show
sometimes you don't realize that it's not just Bravo, it's
whoever is actually producing that chef.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yea and so it's your production.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
But then, what are your thoughts on this? If you
had to go and watch What Happens Live again, would
you rather go with Bethany or Brandy.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Again? I like Bethany. I think she is fun and smart,
and I probably would choose. I mean, I don't think
Andy would, but I would choose. I would choose probably Bethany.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I don't think he choose either one of them. Let's
be honest.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Final question, Mary f goodbye because we don't like to
say kill because we're professionals, Andy Cohen, Gauge and chefs.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Do Oh, I I will and have say goodbye to
chefs do Mary. Well, I've already been with Gauge in
the long term relationships, so I guess I would marry Andy,
and then I guess I would have sex with Gage again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I can't. Yeah, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Is it something wrong with me that I wouldn't mind
if that happened. I actually think it's meant to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Gauge and I, yeah, I think you're no, he's with
my ex.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I understand that I seem happy. And can I tell
you something? I think when enough time passes, that's what
when you when you talk about John Jansen and Alexis,
I think if enough time had passed where Shannon had
moved on, you kind of don't. I don't care. I
actually don't care that my exes are together. And actually
what happens is you end up reframing you think Scott,

(01:00:42):
my ex was so good with Monroe. I'd much rather
Scott be around Monroe than some stranger. So I actually
don't give a shit what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I don't I know, but I don't know why Some
just we're putting it out into the ether. I feel
like you and Gage will get back together again.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Way way, way, way too far, way too far. Yeah.
But have I looked looked back everything that went wrong
and what I would have done differently. Yeah, but you
take it into the next relationship. Yeah, you take your lessons.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Have you gone on your next speed dating?

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I did do speed dating and it was fun. It
was really fun. I know it sounds crazy. I did it.
It's like I did his content for the show and like,
what you know, I've never done this, Let's go ahead
and do it. And I actually had fun and I
met someone. But it was a great night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
What did you get it in?

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
What get it in?

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Did I have sex with him?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Well what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Everything's a story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
What happened is we ended up. It's funny because there
was a break at speed dating and I was supposed
to do I was supposed to still meet like ten
people quick and but I was at the bar and
I had already talked to him. I'm like, hey, you
want to just hang out now? And he goes, yeah,
I don't need to do any more of this. I'm like,
I don't need to do it. So we ended up
really drunk and then he did come back home, but

(01:02:05):
you drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
To finish to remember.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Well, guys, that's a wrap.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Thank you, Thank you for tuning in for episode.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Thank you Jeff for coming on our podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
He's only done one other yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
One other podcast, that's it, Zach Noy Towers. He's one
of my co hosts. And because his his show, You've
Never Done Another, was supposed to be doing these.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
He told me five times downstairs, we've.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Popped your cherry.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Yeah, I guess you have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Okay, I look like going at your radio show next month.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Okay, good, and you'll come back to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I mean you, Well, we'll go together, Teddy, we'll go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
To can I tell you something you have to say?
Like you sold a lot of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Jeff mocking my company and telling me that I murder
people got me more sign ups in that one week
than I've probably gotten in two months. And guys, Jess,
so you know, use code Jeff Lewis ten and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
You'll get twenty stop losing weight?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Are vena code is still good for you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah? Uh? Venus CBD code Jeff for I think it's
Is it twenty or thirty percent off?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Is it? Just?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Jeff and I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Always say start for the start with the RESTful night
bites before you go to lights Out?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Hold on, but have you tried the new one extreme bliss?
I'll want to do that when I get ten?

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Is that one for me to sleep?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
It will not do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
In your ass?

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
It's okay because I I don't take them during the day.
I just take them to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I don't should I do?

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
I take him before I get in the car a parent?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Should I go to a soccer game? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Try it. I had told me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
They took when they went to Disneyland. I'm like, I
want to be like on my ass, that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Might be the only way I want to go to Disneyland.
I need extreme. I do not like rides.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Oh we had fun. We just went to Disneyland where
we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Gone to get lights Out? Start with a half. Start
with a half. Yeah, because it's strong, and make sure
you'll be LA seven eight hours.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Well, the new ones twice as strong. It's five million.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
It's stronger than Lights Out. Yeah, holy ship, you'll sleep
the whole weekend, you will? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Alright, alright, bye guys, bye bye,