April 1, 2025 • 36 mins
She’s “good as gold” and spilling the tea!
Find out Scheana’s thoughts on the Vanderpump Rules recasting, her current relationship with her former castmates and an update on baby #2.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of the Twatzi.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today we have Sena Shay from.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Vander Pump Rules and she wrote a book. So she
has a new book, her memoir My Good Side. It's
set to release in July. She also just participated in
season thirteen of The Mass Singer as a character bat.
She performed Sabrina Carpenter's Espresso. So let's bring Sena in.
(00:42):
Hello girl, Hello Shina, how are you doing.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I just got back from four days in Palm Springs.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It was nice.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
My daughter's on spring break right now, so went out
there for a few days and just enjoyed the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Now you have a second home in Palm Spring, Pump Springs,
pomp Desert.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Which one is it?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Palm Springs, Palm Springs? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Do you'd love it so much out there?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
It was the best purchase I've ever made. It was
twenty nineteen. I had no idea, you know, fast forward
a year that we would actually be living in it
in a pandemic, and it's the best, such a good escape.
It's far enough but close enough that we could go whenever.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So we've often thought about buying a Palm Springs. We
ended up buying a Big Bear. But we were out
there for the Indy car in Indian Wells.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm like, I kind of want to buy a place
here too.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, it's so nice, it really is.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And you know I've told you this when I saw
you at Crystal's party. I'm obsessed with watching Brock do
all the home renovations.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah, so that's why we were out there too. He
just redid my backyard there. We had so much wasted
space of dirt and rocks and just like cactus and whatnot,
and so we replanted a palm onto.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
The side and then he added all of this turf.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
So we have a massive area that was just wasted
and dirt that now our daughter can have a splash pad,
a bounce house, whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So he got that done.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And it looks you are so lucky that he could
do all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Now I know, I save so much money.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, my husband is like, can you screw in a life? No,
I'm joking. He can do things, but not necessary.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He tries. It's one of those like let me watch YouTube,
and I'm like, no, that I'm hiring somebody.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yes, now, it doesn't off anyone for anything he wants
to do at all, But I also want everything done quickly,
so I'm like, okay. Well, he's like, I want to
build outdoor furniture. I'm like, okay, but I want outdoor
furniture tomorrow. So I'm just gonna want to And that's
very tricky. You have to be extremely talented to be
doing that. I know we still want to do a
(02:50):
nook in the house, but I think he's going to
bring in someone to help with that just because of
like the cabinets and stuff. He doesn't feel one hundred
percent confident building.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now, how is Summer Moon doing? And do you want
a second?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So funny you ask that.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
This morning he actually went to pick up the tank
to then go to where my frozen eggs are at
the facility my doctor is no longer at put the
eggs in the tank, and then take the tank back
to my doctor's new office. So that's step one in
a very long process. We're not ready, I'm at least
(03:29):
not ready yet. We have to go the surrogate route.
It's not smart for me to try and get pregnant again.
Especially about to turn forty. I'm already high risk. I
got help syndrome. The chance of that in miscarriage is
just way too high. So if we do, it would
be a surrogate. But I'm like, okay, step one, get
(03:51):
the sperm tested, move the eggs over.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That's as far as I can go.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And then we might make some embryos sometimes this year.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
But I'm not ready. We have such a.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Great little family unit US three right now, and she
is just crushing everything.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
She's in jiu jitsu.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
She's amazing with that, and I'm not ready to change
our family unit just yet.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I understand that. So let's talk about mass singer. Yes,
tell me everything like beginning to end. Like I've heard
like stories that they're so secretive there there's no lakes
at all.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
It's one of the most fun and scary things I've
ever done. I loved the secrecy of it because you know,
I gotta be in this costume. I gotta come out
and just do my high kick and have all this
confidence and no one knows who I am. The singing
part of it made me so nervous because I sing
(04:58):
live over a track usually with an auto tuned mic
unless I just up on the bar it, sir, and
you know there's no autotune mic. But I'm always over
a fully mastered track mass singer. I mean, sure they
have like the backing track, just the music, but your
vocals are live. All of the comments I've seen of
(05:19):
people being like, what in the auto tune, I'm like, no, no, no,
that is my voice. So that was scary because also
during that time I was dealing with acid reflex. My
voice is already not I'm not a well trained vocalist.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I am not good.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just I just got acid reflex. So the first
time in my fifty seven years of living, I had
to I'm like, I keep coughing, my my voice is hoarse.
I went to the ante and he put like a
scope down my nose into my throat, and I'm like,
he's all, it's acid reflex.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm like, am I dying?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He's like, it's acid reflex.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And of course, you know, everyone who listens to the
podcast or whatever when I'm talking about this wants to
die knows me. I had someone tell me I probably
have throat cancer. At another person tell me it's probably
my thyroid. All of these things I'm worried about, and
so I finally it was a few weeks before I
got the offer for the show that I had gone
to the doctor. I was on medication, but my voice
still wasn't back yet. So I was doing all of
(06:18):
the things. I was steaming my voice several times a day,
drinking throat cook tea. I had my giant Stanley cop
just filled with lukewarm water. I was doing all of
the things to try and have my voice be the
best it could be. And after I got sent home
the first night, I was so disappointed. It did a
(06:38):
number on my confidence because I felt like, wow, like
I really was giving it my all and I felt
like I did good. And then to just hear them
say bat and I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like, hold on, is my India correct? Like I think
he just said bat? He did not mean to say bat.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
And it was so hard to then have to go
back out, take the mask off, perform put a happy
on when I was so sad. I felt like my
second song was so much stronger, it was better suited
for my voice. I loved the performance. I was going
to be on a motorcycle. I came out a motorcycle.
I do like a high kickoff the motorcycle. The choreography,
(07:16):
I was going to go down into a full split,
but then they had me finishing on a platform, so
I'm like, okay, we'll do like half a split. And
I had this great ending position and I didn't get
to do any of that, and I was so bummed.
And then I realized it just kind of recently after
watching it back, that getting sent home first, I felt
like did a number on my confidence and just like,
(07:39):
I don't want to say I was depressed, but I
think it put me in a bit of a depression
where I was like, I kind of stopped working out.
It was then the holidays and then months passed, and
you know, when you missed the gym for a while,
it's so hard to get back into it. And yeah,
watching it back, I'm like, you know what I did
(08:00):
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I thought you did great. I thought I thought you
made four episodes?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Did you? Were you on four episodes?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
That's the one just I thought it was four.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh no, that it was episode four of the season.
But they do three groups, so I was the first
and the first to go home in my group, so
it was the fourth episode of the season, so I
wasn't like the first first, but it was the first
in my group, which was such a bummer because if
I would have went home after week two, I would
have been like done. I did my best, Like it
(08:32):
was a great experience, so fun, and the other people
in my group, three of them are like really good singers,
Like I knew I wasn't going to get probably past
week two.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But also it's not a singing competition. It's a guessing game.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I'm like, but it kind of is because some of
these people on the show. I'm like, I guarantee the
two people left in my group are recording artists, Like
they are so vocally trained you could just tell.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, I don't think that's fair. I think it's the
same situation Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You're putting professional people that know how to dance and
dance the whole life. It gets somebody like, let's say me,
who has two left feet, Like that's not fair. Not
that they're asking me to be on the show or anything,
but I can saying well, you never know. But back
to like you saying like you haven't worked out that
is kind of depression, Like I am somebody that's there
(09:21):
five days a week. In the past six weeks since
Teddy got diagnosed, I can't. I can't muster the energy
to even go to the gym and just like work up.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, it's off.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And I feel like I'm turning forty in five weeks,
and I went from wanting to plan this huge party
to now I'm like, I don't know, like we'll do something,
but I'm like, I wanted to go into forty feeling
the best I've ever felt, looking off and like I'm
not there. But I'm like, all right, I've got five weeks.
(09:55):
I got to get my shit together because I want
to feel good going into forty, going into you know,
whatever projects happened.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
This summer book tour.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I want to be able to just have my stylist
pool anything and I feel good in it. So that's
my next few months is to just get my shit together.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's gonna happen. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I was in the worst place to have been, in
the worst place in my life, and I literally got
a ted talk from Teddy that's just like, if I'm
doing this, you can do it, you bet. Because it
has been very difficult for me to film the season.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You go out there, you kick ass, you do that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
If I have to do this, you have to do that.
And I'm like, it really sparked me. And you you've
gone through a lot of hits, like you've been on
a show for over a decade and now that show
has been recast and then but you are on the
Bellley right.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, so I'm a friend this season. I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I mean, I've filmed a lot, you know, I was
around a lot. You never know what they're going to
use or how the storylines are going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
And all of the people, not all most our genuine friends.
These are like my mom friends, and this is when
we're all neighbors and a bunch of our kids go
to school together.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So yeah, it's a perfect fit. It is a perfect fit.
And even if you're just a friend this season, I
see it, you know, going into full time and that
show is so good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's so good.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, I like the season two hasn't even aired yet,
Like they're going to get a season three.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I know it because I lived it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And for sure you're gonna get You're gonna get Dance
with the Stars eventually, you're gonna get traders, You're gonna
be on the valley and all of a sudden, you're
gonna be like like I was when I had two
years off. Why didn't I enjoy those two years off?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You when you told me that a few months ago
when we were talking.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I've been taking that in.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That's what just like going to Palm Springs and just
soaking it all in and enjoying this time with my
daughter because in June she goes to school five days
a week. So I'm just trying to enjoy all of
the downtime I've had because I know this summer with
book tour and everything else, it's going to be really
busy again. So thank you for that advice, because I
(12:09):
have totally taken it and.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
D just enjoy that time. Yes, And I also want
to thank you. You are one person that reached out
to me almost every other day to ask about Teddy
and how she was doing and just so concerned. And
I just I told her how many times you reached
out and just thank you so much. So you have
(12:42):
a book coming out, let's talk about it. It's your
memoir My Good Side.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's coming out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
July twenty second, and it's available for pre order now.
So how do they pre order?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Is it through Amazon?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Is go to my good sidebook dot com and then
they will direct you if you want to buy on Amazon,
if you want to go to Barnes and Noble Premiere.
There are signed copies available on Premiere and Barnes and Noble.
I have two thousand pages I am signing for all
of these books going out, So it's another thing. I'm
(13:13):
about to turn forty and I'm like, okay, now I've
got smile lines that stay, and I feel I'm getting
ritis in my hand, Like you all.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Have carpool tunnel for me now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I was coloring with my daughter on Christmas.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
We got her this like giant cardboard gingerbread house that
we're coloring together, and then I realized. I was like, oh,
I'm kind of getting a cramp. And now we're going
into April and my hand is still not working properly,
so the signature might be a little wonky.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
There will be me signed copies.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Talk to me when you get in your fifties.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, all kinds of shit I go to
I go into that train you have gurd I'm like,
what the hell is gird? Is that like gout any?
And then I'm like, in the same day, I'm like,
is that do I have tonel fungus? What the hell
is going on? I'm like, God, I'm just falling apart.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'm starting to give up.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Can you guess is called bird? It just sound of it.
You know, It's like, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't like it either, So give us a little
sneak peek of what we can expect for your book.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So, I mean, it literally starts from before birth. I
talk about how my parents met up until December, like
it's really current. I talk about when I got the
call for vander Pump Rules getting rebooted. I definitely spill
a little btst in the book.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh, I was just going to ask you that.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, you know, I I'm sure there will be people
who have opinions about some things that I say after,
but this is my truth, and this is my time
to take the narrative back and to tell my story
from my point of view without people editing it, you know.
I mean, yeah, of course there's a copy editor, but
this is my words. I've read this book more times
(15:00):
than I want to, just making sure like each little word.
I'm like, Okay, I don't like the way this sounds.
Let me rewrite it this way. And it's been a process.
It's been a lot of rewriting things, trying to say
things in a way where I'm not going to offend people,
but I'm still going to tell my truth.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And oh, you're going to offend people, of course, know
is there anything you have to give it away?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
But is there anything in there that you're super nervous
about people reading.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, like a full chapter.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Just things that I finally open up about in the
book that probably would have been on season twelve of
vander Pump Rules, but you know, not getting that opportunity
now maybe season three of The Valley. But I just
wanted to put it all out there, every single aspect
of me, the things I'm most insecure about. I literally
(15:56):
put it all in there, and I hope I don't
regret that when it comes out. Dedication to my daughter
at the end and I'm like, you know, I hope
if you read this one day, that I don't embarrass
you too much, that you're proud of me, and you
know that me sharing my story definitely is helping other people,
especially in like the OCD.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Community know that they're not alone. I've had so many
people reach out.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Being like I had no idea what was wrong with me,
And now i know, like, Okay, those are called intrusive thoughts.
This is something that you know it's like, but people
don't talk about it as much because you feel like
if I say the things going on in my head,
I sound crazy. Like I literally went on a hike
(16:41):
with my family. It was rock summer and I when
we were in Pump Springs. We took the aerial tramway
all the way to the top and there wasn't much
snow left. But our daughter loves rock climbing, and she
just starts like climbing these actual rocks and I'm like,
oh my god, I saw her die like five times.
It was like I saw her go off the rock.
I saw the stick going her eye, and all of
(17:02):
these things that I'm just like, I don't want to
see these things. But also now that I'm medicated, I
feel like I'm able to kind of shut them down
quicker where I'm like, Okay, that's not gonna happen. We're
right here by her. If she falls, I'm going to
catch her. But I'm not always going to be there.
You know, she might climb a rock at school and
fall off, and I'm not always going to be there,
So just.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yea for people that don't there's probably a lot of
people that don't understand that, But I have those as well.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I have intrusive thought it's really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And Eddie rides motorcycles, so between dirt bikes and Harley's.
When he goes out and I can't, I don't hear
from him or something, I have like he died, the
CoP's gonna call me. I'm planning his funeral. Like all
these things go through my head. If my daughter doesn't
respond to me and she's out and it's late, I
(17:47):
have that whole like it's it's a situation.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I just have a toddler right now.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And then when I think about the future, I'm like,
my OCD doesn't really let me even look into the
future that far. I can kind kind of just go
one year at a time, but then if you ask me,
like where do you see yourself in two years? And
then I'm like, oh my god, where's she going to
be going to kindergarten? Like we have to start touring
schools we have to start applying this fall, and that's
(18:13):
as far as I can get.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm like, let's just let's get her into kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I can't even it's hard to struggle. I'm going through
therapy right now and trying to figure out what the
hell is going on with me. My daughter is very OCD,
she's a counter and all those things and the intrusive thoughts,
and so, you know, me and her bond over that experience,
but it's difficult to figure out what to do and
(18:37):
try to make it better and try to internally go okay,
that's an intrusive thought. Let me just move on, Like
you know, it's hard. So you said you're turning forty.
Is there some big birthday plan? Who's on the guest?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm literally at a I have no idea what I'm
going to do. We wanted to do an all incline
US a resort in Cabo, and do like a big party,
and then it just wasn't coming together as easily as
I wanted it to. And my birthdays on a Wednesday,
the Friday after my birthdays, literally two days later, we
(19:14):
have a wedding in Vegas. So now I'm thinking do
we just go to Vegas and do Wednesday Thursday, have
a down day, spa day, and then the wedding Friday.
So I'm thinking we might just do Vegas.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But it sounds easier.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
It does, and I want to invite everyone, you know,
Like I want to go somewhere where. I really liked
what we did for Bravocon night one when we all
went up to the Foundation Room and just that whole area,
Like I'm kind of just thinking something that's like that
kind of vibe doesn't necessarily have to be a rented
out space, private party, but somewhere with a good view,
(19:49):
good drinks.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, Let's talk about the Indian of Vanner punt Roles
a little bit as somebody that was on a show
for over a decade and then in ended. For me,
it was devastating for me. It took me like a
whole year to feel normal again. Did you go through
that grieving process?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I think we felt it coming, to be honest, and
I feel like we had a bit of a heads up,
so it wasn't a complete shock when we got the call.
Still it was like, oh, Okay, that finally happened. But
then they're like, but you know, you're gonna be on
the Valley. So having filmed the Valley in place of
(20:30):
Season twelve last summer, I felt like I still got
my fix and I didn't yeah skip a beat, even
though it was different. It was a lot of our
same crew, same showrunner, so it kind of felt like home,
and I feel like that was an easy transition out
of one thing to just kind of hop into another.
(20:50):
But it's gonna be really weird when you know there's
vander pumber Well season twelve and we're watching previews for
the next week.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I know, Oh, do you know any of the cast members?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I do.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I know a couple of the girls who one of
them I had worked with there back in the day.
She's been there for many years and I wanted to
get her on the show like season seven, but she
was pretty much only friends with me and didn't really
fit in the rest of the group. So I'm really
excited for her and then her best friend I met
more recently at SIR when I was just there for
(21:24):
a night with Captain Jason, so I talked to her
and you know, yeah, so I'm really I'm excited for them.
You know, this show has brought so much opportunity to
my life, and I'm excited for the new kids to
get there.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now, do you think that they should have kept some
of their original cast members? Because we know how hard
it is to recast a show and get people invested
in it. I mean, we're they're having problems with Real
Housewives of New York. Now, do you think that they
should have or do you think you guys have kind
of outgrown it and now you're better suited for the Valley.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Like Peter still works at the restaurant, you know, so
I feel like he should be a part of it.
You still have Geirmo and Natalie Lisa, so I guess
you maybe do.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Have some the same.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm more curious how they're going to start the first episode,
you know, because it was so iconic when we went
from Housewives Seemless vander Pump Rules, So are they going
to do something similar? Are some of us going to
get a call to appear?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's what I was wondering, if you guys are going
to get they haven't have they started filming yet or not?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I think they're filming in April, I heard, but they
haven't started yet.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
What's your relationship with Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I don't talk to her too often. She usually calls
when she needs something.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That was recent.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
When I talked to her, she had a question about
a friend of mine on another show of hers, and
that was pretty much it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, you're some use to her. So she has nothing
to do with The Valley right, she.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Has her name on it. She's technically an executive produce.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Of course she does, but she doesn't.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Know anything going on on it. When she found out
Kristen was pregnant, she asked if, like we knew who
the dad was, and we're like, you're an executive producer
on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I read that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I read that he's.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Very much not involved, but she has her name on
the show.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh my god, So where do you stand right now
with both Ariana and Sandoval?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I actually was with Ariana last night.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
We had a mutual friend's birthday, so we spent the
most time we've spent together in a while, and it
was really fun. Sandoval, I have not talked to him
and I don't even know how long, but.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, did you watch him on Traders?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I did, and I thoroughly enjoyed this season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It was so good.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm obsessed with that show.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, it's well, you'll be on it sooner or later.
I know it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
How are you currently supporting Ali now? The current situation
with her and James? We had discussions years ago about this.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I remember me, you and Raquel at Bravocan and so
I was actually also with Ali yesterday. She just did
a play that my sister was in.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It was so she's doing really well.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
She has a new podcast coming out called Starstruck, where
she is going to be having celebrities on and reading
their birth charts, and she has a new apartment.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She's her really well.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I've been there with her from the morning after I
got the call that he was around, and I've just
been there for her in any way she needs support.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But she's doing really well.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I'm really proud of her because I know it's never
easy to leave that kind of situation because when it's good,
it's great, but when it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And I'm just happy that she's out.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I never really understood that relationship, and then being around
them that one time, I'm like, what the hell, You're
so cute, so sweet, such a good gurl, I'm like,
what are you doing? I wanted to shake her, but
all the best to her for sure. Were you surprised
at Jack's announcement about his addiction.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I can't say I was surprised.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'm more so surprised that he finally admitted it, which
you know also is not an easy thing to admit.
But the timing of it, the little sauce.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
You know, about to start.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You're trying to get some sympathy, So the timing of
it was interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But I can't stay I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, it has Brittany on the wake of Jack's announcement,
I'm sure it was no big revelation to her.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, I mean he has just been awful to her.
You know, she has been through it. She was at
the birthday dinner last night as well, and she is
such an incredible mother, very strong woman, and Cruse is
really lucky that he has her. You know, she has
just been through so much over the last ten years.
(26:29):
And similar to you know, Ali and Raquel and the
girls who are with these narcissistic men, and it's even
if it's not physically abusive, there's so many other types
of abuse and just again I'm happy that she's out,
you know. I'm happy that her and Ali are doing
well and taking care of themselves, and I'm just glad
(26:50):
that she's out of that situation.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know her, but
she just seems so sweet. She is so sweet, so kind.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It was another situation.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm like, why why are they together? Do you think
that it's time for Jacks to hang up his reality
TV career?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I mean, I get it, he's entertaining, he's good TV.
But also when a bad behavior is rewarded with, you know,
another season, another season, it's like, yeah, I don't know.
He wasn't around as much, or at least not around
me this current season that's about to air. So yeah,
I don't know what's gonna happen next season, but.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It'll be interesting. What are you most excited to see
next season on The Valley.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm hoping Summer Moon has her little appearance in it.
They did film at my house, so that'll be just
cute to see, you know, whenever she's on camera, she
was swimming and whatnot. But I don't know, I'm just
I'm excited to see me with a new group on
a similar show. I think it'll be exciting. I hope fun,
(28:02):
but it was also I mean there were some explosive
moments that I've heard about that I'm like, oh, I
can't wait to see that, you know, I just I
got the call about it, but now to watch it all,
to see their Hawaii trip that I was not on,
I'm excited to see that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Kristen's engagement.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Are you close to Kristin?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
We go up and down.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
You know, it's like we'll talk every day, then we
don't talk for a month, and then we find our
way back. So it's definitely one that ebbs and flows,
but you know, nothing but love for her and excited
for her baby baby girl on the way.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh that she should be do pretty soon, right.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think she's got like two more months.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Two months now sta see somebody that we really haven't
seen back on reality TV.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I'm set her back.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, so it's like she she took a long break.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
She really did.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
What do you say to people who think that the
other Van of Pump Rolls cast shouldn't show up to
the valley? Do you think that there's like certain people
from your cast or Vandon pump roles cast that will
beginning spin offs maybe Valley.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, I mean I could definitely see that. I could see,
you know, something around Ariana and Katie and the sandwich shop.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, I could totally see that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So, you know, some of us who it makes sense
to move on to the Valley that you know makes sense,
but then some I mean, I hope that everyone you
know continues to do something in this space, whether it's
another show or you know, a new podcast. Everyone has one, everyone,
but not everybody needs one.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Valley has a podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I mean, it seems to be the thing to do
almost now.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Jesse doesn't, but pretty much everyone else.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh my god, that's funny. Do you go to their
sandwich shop?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I am not in West Hollywood that often. Usually, like
when I come here to record my podcast is like
the one time I'm in West Hollywood, but then I
have to go back over the hill to pick up
somewhere from school, So I'm not in this area as much.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But so you don't have a favorite sandwich from.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I'm what it was called. It was the Turkey sandwich.
I'm a basic bitch when it comes to sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Anything on it I am.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I'm like, if I go there, it would be the
turkey sandwich, the grilled cheese or one. It was like
a peanut butter and jelly, but I think it had
like chips or something on it.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's but no, everything they're so good.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They have lover Boy there, so I love that you
get those little Bravo crossover a.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Little cross promotion there. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, thank you so much. Is there anything else you
want to talk about?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
My podcast Every First Shenanigans. The book available for pre order.
This is, you know, the biggest, one of the biggest
things I think I've ever done in my career. It's
terrifying but exciting and yeah, I'm just happy that people
will get to have my full story through my voice,
(31:14):
in my own words, and I hope they understand me
a little bit better after reading it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, I know reality TV.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's funny because people want to one hundred percent judge
you on an edited TV show that polarizes your you know.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Usually your worst behavior. So look, and it's hard and
from somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You've gotten a lot of shit on social media and
I have to last year was probably one of my
worst ever and it is hurtful.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
As much as you think I don't care about what
people are saying.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's hard, and I do personally think that there needs
to be new laws set with Instagram, Like I'm all
for this freedom of speech, but when people are sending
you death threats and saying horrible things, it's not okay.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
No, And it's just for the people.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I look at it from a perspective of what is
so wrong in your life that you feel okay to
go on to a stranger's page say the meanest things.
And then I look at their profile and it's like
a Bible verse, a photo of their dog, their children,
And so if their profile is public, I will go
comment on a photo of their children and just say
(32:24):
I pray for your kids that they never get like
you're doing to me. I'm just going to say a
prayer for them because the fact that this you're a parent,
I mean, like, come.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
On, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I remember having a meeting with Bravo and they told me, listen,
just know that the people that are very vocal like that,
it's three percent of our viewers.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Like now a lot of them are hired butts nowadays, Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
The thing is too, when we're at Bravocon, when we're
at these type of events and stuff, every single person
is so nice, So like, you know, that's it's not
what's online. It's having those interactions with the fans, Like
I'm so excited for a book tour. I don't think
anyone's gonna come up and say something rude like that's
commented on my Instagram.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, I don't think I've ever had in the
seventeen years, anybody come up to me and say something
nasty to my face.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, I can remember. Maybe they have, but I really
can't remember.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, totally. A question for you, how is filming going?
Can you tell me? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I wish I could tell you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I can just say it's been very difficult for me
with a lot of stuff that, you know, personal stuff
that's going on. It's always hard when real life stuff
is really bringing you down.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's hard, really hard.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Do you feel better about this season though, than last?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what, I didn't feel bad about last season
and then it aired, I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
No, Crystals, I'm like, how are you? And You're like, wow, Mike, no,
I've seen.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm like, how the hell did that happen? You know,
it's it's it was. It was brutal for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And then you know, it's like there's people on the shows,
all the shows across the board that move storyline and
get things going, and then sometimes you are, you know,
the asshole shit store because you're trying to get things going.
So it's like you're damned if you do and you're
damned if you don't. Totally it's difficult. But one last question,
(34:21):
ask about how it felt that Lady Gaga was gonna
miss her? Wait what Lady Gaga said she was going
to miss you?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
On a lie detector test for Vanity Fair, they asked
her if she was excited for a new cast of
Vanderbump Rolls and she says no, yes, no, and they're
like inconclusive, and they go, who are you going to
miss most from the original cast, and she just goes.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Sina on a line. Though I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Then I hear that she's hosting and a musical guest
for SNL and so NBC got me tickets. I went
to the show, hung out with her at the after party,
say like it was so iconic. I've had such a
crazy month between Lady Gaga, the Jonahs brothers and math singer.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
March has been insane for me.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
So I feel like I'm getting my mojo back, I'm
getting my r and we're going to go into forty
feeling good.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Being far and again, I'll tell you this, just relax,
have a good time with your family, because you know,
once you start filming stuff, it takes away from family
time and it keeps you busy and you're not able
to go to your second house as much to relax.
So take it all in right now, you know, because
you are going to be booked and busy here pretty soon.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Kay.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We've been wanting to do this for so long, So
I'm glad. I know why. I know Shenanigan's with you
as well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, let me know.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Let me know all the love Teddy as well, you know,
I will, I will.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I was hoping to see her today, so hopefully that happens.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
But thank you so much first and love to the family,
same to you, Okay, bye bye,
To teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of the Twatzi.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today we have Sena Shay from.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Vander Pump Rules and she wrote a book. So she
has a new book, her memoir My Good Side. It's
set to release in July. She also just participated in
season thirteen of The Mass Singer as a character bat.
She performed Sabrina Carpenter's Espresso. So let's bring Sena in.
(00:42):
Hello girl, Hello Shina, how are you doing.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I just got back from four days in Palm Springs.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It was nice.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
My daughter's on spring break right now, so went out
there for a few days and just enjoyed the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Now you have a second home in Palm Spring, Pump Springs,
pomp Desert.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Which one is it?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Palm Springs, Palm Springs? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Do you'd love it so much out there?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
It was the best purchase I've ever made. It was
twenty nineteen. I had no idea, you know, fast forward
a year that we would actually be living in it
in a pandemic, and it's the best, such a good escape.
It's far enough but close enough that we could go whenever.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So we've often thought about buying a Palm Springs. We
ended up buying a Big Bear. But we were out
there for the Indy car in Indian Wells.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm like, I kind of want to buy a place
here too.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, it's so nice, it really is.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And you know I've told you this when I saw
you at Crystal's party. I'm obsessed with watching Brock do
all the home renovations.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah, so that's why we were out there too. He
just redid my backyard there. We had so much wasted
space of dirt and rocks and just like cactus and whatnot,
and so we replanted a palm onto.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
The side and then he added all of this turf.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
So we have a massive area that was just wasted
and dirt that now our daughter can have a splash pad,
a bounce house, whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So he got that done.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And it looks you are so lucky that he could
do all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Now I know, I save so much money.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, my husband is like, can you screw in a life? No,
I'm joking. He can do things, but not necessary.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He tries. It's one of those like let me watch YouTube,
and I'm like, no, that I'm hiring somebody.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yes, now, it doesn't off anyone for anything he wants
to do at all, But I also want everything done quickly,
so I'm like, okay. Well, he's like, I want to
build outdoor furniture. I'm like, okay, but I want outdoor
furniture tomorrow. So I'm just gonna want to And that's
very tricky. You have to be extremely talented to be
doing that. I know we still want to do a
(02:50):
nook in the house, but I think he's going to
bring in someone to help with that just because of
like the cabinets and stuff. He doesn't feel one hundred
percent confident building.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now, how is Summer Moon doing? And do you want
a second?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So funny you ask that.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
This morning he actually went to pick up the tank
to then go to where my frozen eggs are at
the facility my doctor is no longer at put the
eggs in the tank, and then take the tank back
to my doctor's new office. So that's step one in
a very long process. We're not ready, I'm at least
(03:29):
not ready yet. We have to go the surrogate route.
It's not smart for me to try and get pregnant again.
Especially about to turn forty. I'm already high risk. I
got help syndrome. The chance of that in miscarriage is
just way too high. So if we do, it would
be a surrogate. But I'm like, okay, step one, get
(03:51):
the sperm tested, move the eggs over.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That's as far as I can go.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And then we might make some embryos sometimes this year.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
But I'm not ready. We have such a.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Great little family unit US three right now, and she
is just crushing everything.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
She's in jiu jitsu.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
She's amazing with that, and I'm not ready to change
our family unit just yet.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I understand that. So let's talk about mass singer. Yes,
tell me everything like beginning to end. Like I've heard
like stories that they're so secretive there there's no lakes
at all.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ever.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
It's one of the most fun and scary things I've
ever done. I loved the secrecy of it because you know,
I gotta be in this costume. I gotta come out
and just do my high kick and have all this
confidence and no one knows who I am. The singing
part of it made me so nervous because I sing
(04:58):
live over a track usually with an auto tuned mic
unless I just up on the bar it, sir, and
you know there's no autotune mic. But I'm always over
a fully mastered track mass singer. I mean, sure they
have like the backing track, just the music, but your
vocals are live. All of the comments I've seen of
(05:19):
people being like, what in the auto tune, I'm like, no, no, no,
that is my voice. So that was scary because also
during that time I was dealing with acid reflex. My
voice is already not I'm not a well trained vocalist.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I am not good.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just I just got acid reflex. So the first
time in my fifty seven years of living, I had
to I'm like, I keep coughing, my my voice is hoarse.
I went to the ante and he put like a
scope down my nose into my throat, and I'm like,
he's all, it's acid reflex.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm like, am I dying?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He's like, it's acid reflex.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And of course, you know, everyone who listens to the
podcast or whatever when I'm talking about this wants to
die knows me. I had someone tell me I probably
have throat cancer. At another person tell me it's probably
my thyroid. All of these things I'm worried about, and
so I finally it was a few weeks before I
got the offer for the show that I had gone
to the doctor. I was on medication, but my voice
still wasn't back yet. So I was doing all of
(06:18):
the things. I was steaming my voice several times a day,
drinking throat cook tea. I had my giant Stanley cop
just filled with lukewarm water. I was doing all of
the things to try and have my voice be the
best it could be. And after I got sent home
the first night, I was so disappointed. It did a
(06:38):
number on my confidence because I felt like, wow, like
I really was giving it my all and I felt
like I did good. And then to just hear them
say bat and I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like, hold on, is my India correct? Like I think
he just said bat? He did not mean to say bat.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
And it was so hard to then have to go
back out, take the mask off, perform put a happy
on when I was so sad. I felt like my
second song was so much stronger, it was better suited
for my voice. I loved the performance. I was going
to be on a motorcycle. I came out a motorcycle.
I do like a high kickoff the motorcycle. The choreography,
(07:16):
I was going to go down into a full split,
but then they had me finishing on a platform, so
I'm like, okay, we'll do like half a split. And
I had this great ending position and I didn't get
to do any of that, and I was so bummed.
And then I realized it just kind of recently after
watching it back, that getting sent home first, I felt
like did a number on my confidence and just like,
(07:39):
I don't want to say I was depressed, but I
think it put me in a bit of a depression
where I was like, I kind of stopped working out.
It was then the holidays and then months passed, and
you know, when you missed the gym for a while,
it's so hard to get back into it. And yeah,
watching it back, I'm like, you know what I did
(08:00):
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I thought you did great. I thought I thought you
made four episodes?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Did you? Were you on four episodes?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
That's the one just I thought it was four.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh no, that it was episode four of the season.
But they do three groups, so I was the first
and the first to go home in my group, so
it was the fourth episode of the season, so I
wasn't like the first first, but it was the first
in my group, which was such a bummer because if
I would have went home after week two, I would
have been like done. I did my best, Like it
(08:32):
was a great experience, so fun, and the other people
in my group, three of them are like really good singers,
Like I knew I wasn't going to get probably past
week two.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But also it's not a singing competition. It's a guessing game.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I'm like, but it kind of is because some of
these people on the show. I'm like, I guarantee the
two people left in my group are recording artists, Like
they are so vocally trained you could just tell.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, I don't think that's fair. I think it's the
same situation Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You're putting professional people that know how to dance and
dance the whole life. It gets somebody like, let's say me,
who has two left feet, Like that's not fair. Not
that they're asking me to be on the show or anything,
but I can saying well, you never know. But back
to like you saying like you haven't worked out that
is kind of depression, Like I am somebody that's there
(09:21):
five days a week. In the past six weeks since
Teddy got diagnosed, I can't. I can't muster the energy
to even go to the gym and just like work up.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, it's off.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And I feel like I'm turning forty in five weeks,
and I went from wanting to plan this huge party
to now I'm like, I don't know, like we'll do something,
but I'm like, I wanted to go into forty feeling
the best I've ever felt, looking off and like I'm
not there. But I'm like, all right, I've got five weeks.
(09:55):
I got to get my shit together because I want
to feel good going into forty, going into you know,
whatever projects happened.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
This summer book tour.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I want to be able to just have my stylist
pool anything and I feel good in it. So that's
my next few months is to just get my shit together.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's gonna happen. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I was in the worst place to have been, in
the worst place in my life, and I literally got
a ted talk from Teddy that's just like, if I'm
doing this, you can do it, you bet. Because it
has been very difficult for me to film the season.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You go out there, you kick ass, you do that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
If I have to do this, you have to do that.
And I'm like, it really sparked me. And you you've
gone through a lot of hits, like you've been on
a show for over a decade and now that show
has been recast and then but you are on the
Bellley right.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, so I'm a friend this season. I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I mean, I've filmed a lot, you know, I was
around a lot. You never know what they're going to
use or how the storylines are going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
And all of the people, not all most our genuine friends.
These are like my mom friends, and this is when
we're all neighbors and a bunch of our kids go
to school together.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So yeah, it's a perfect fit. It is a perfect fit.
And even if you're just a friend this season, I
see it, you know, going into full time and that
show is so good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's so good.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, I like the season two hasn't even aired yet,
Like they're going to get a season three.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I know it because I lived it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And for sure you're gonna get You're gonna get Dance
with the Stars eventually, you're gonna get traders, You're gonna
be on the valley and all of a sudden, you're
gonna be like like I was when I had two
years off. Why didn't I enjoy those two years off?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You when you told me that a few months ago
when we were talking.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I've been taking that in.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That's what just like going to Palm Springs and just
soaking it all in and enjoying this time with my
daughter because in June she goes to school five days
a week. So I'm just trying to enjoy all of
the downtime I've had because I know this summer with
book tour and everything else, it's going to be really
busy again. So thank you for that advice, because I
(12:09):
have totally taken it and.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
D just enjoy that time. Yes, And I also want
to thank you. You are one person that reached out
to me almost every other day to ask about Teddy
and how she was doing and just so concerned. And
I just I told her how many times you reached
out and just thank you so much. So you have
(12:42):
a book coming out, let's talk about it. It's your
memoir My Good Side.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's coming out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
July twenty second, and it's available for pre order now.
So how do they pre order?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Is it through Amazon?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Is go to my good sidebook dot com and then
they will direct you if you want to buy on Amazon,
if you want to go to Barnes and Noble Premiere.
There are signed copies available on Premiere and Barnes and Noble.
I have two thousand pages I am signing for all
of these books going out, So it's another thing. I'm
(13:13):
about to turn forty and I'm like, okay, now I've
got smile lines that stay, and I feel I'm getting
ritis in my hand, Like you all.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Have carpool tunnel for me now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I was coloring with my daughter on Christmas.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
We got her this like giant cardboard gingerbread house that
we're coloring together, and then I realized. I was like, oh,
I'm kind of getting a cramp. And now we're going
into April and my hand is still not working properly,
so the signature might be a little wonky.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
There will be me signed copies.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Talk to me when you get in your fifties.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, all kinds of shit I go to
I go into that train you have gurd I'm like,
what the hell is gird? Is that like gout any?
And then I'm like, in the same day, I'm like,
is that do I have tonel fungus? What the hell
is going on? I'm like, God, I'm just falling apart.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'm starting to give up.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Can you guess is called bird? It just sound of it.
You know, It's like, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't like it either, So give us a little
sneak peek of what we can expect for your book.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So, I mean, it literally starts from before birth. I
talk about how my parents met up until December, like
it's really current. I talk about when I got the
call for vander Pump Rules getting rebooted. I definitely spill
a little btst in the book.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh, I was just going to ask you that.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, you know, I I'm sure there will be people
who have opinions about some things that I say after,
but this is my truth, and this is my time
to take the narrative back and to tell my story
from my point of view without people editing it, you know.
I mean, yeah, of course there's a copy editor, but
this is my words. I've read this book more times
(15:00):
than I want to, just making sure like each little word.
I'm like, Okay, I don't like the way this sounds.
Let me rewrite it this way. And it's been a process.
It's been a lot of rewriting things, trying to say
things in a way where I'm not going to offend people,
but I'm still going to tell my truth.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And oh, you're going to offend people, of course, know
is there anything you have to give it away?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
But is there anything in there that you're super nervous
about people reading.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, like a full chapter.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Just things that I finally open up about in the
book that probably would have been on season twelve of
vander Pump Rules, but you know, not getting that opportunity
now maybe season three of The Valley. But I just
wanted to put it all out there, every single aspect
of me, the things I'm most insecure about. I literally
(15:56):
put it all in there, and I hope I don't
regret that when it comes out. Dedication to my daughter
at the end and I'm like, you know, I hope
if you read this one day, that I don't embarrass
you too much, that you're proud of me, and you
know that me sharing my story definitely is helping other people,
especially in like the OCD.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Community know that they're not alone. I've had so many
people reach out.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Being like I had no idea what was wrong with me,
And now i know, like, Okay, those are called intrusive thoughts.
This is something that you know it's like, but people
don't talk about it as much because you feel like
if I say the things going on in my head,
I sound crazy. Like I literally went on a hike
(16:41):
with my family. It was rock summer and I when
we were in Pump Springs. We took the aerial tramway
all the way to the top and there wasn't much
snow left. But our daughter loves rock climbing, and she
just starts like climbing these actual rocks and I'm like,
oh my god, I saw her die like five times.
It was like I saw her go off the rock.
I saw the stick going her eye, and all of
(17:02):
these things that I'm just like, I don't want to
see these things. But also now that I'm medicated, I
feel like I'm able to kind of shut them down
quicker where I'm like, Okay, that's not gonna happen. We're
right here by her. If she falls, I'm going to
catch her. But I'm not always going to be there.
You know, she might climb a rock at school and
fall off, and I'm not always going to be there,
So just.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yea for people that don't there's probably a lot of
people that don't understand that, But I have those as well.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I have intrusive thought it's really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And Eddie rides motorcycles, so between dirt bikes and Harley's.
When he goes out and I can't, I don't hear
from him or something, I have like he died, the
CoP's gonna call me. I'm planning his funeral. Like all
these things go through my head. If my daughter doesn't
respond to me and she's out and it's late, I
(17:47):
have that whole like it's it's a situation.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I just have a toddler right now.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And then when I think about the future, I'm like,
my OCD doesn't really let me even look into the
future that far. I can kind kind of just go
one year at a time, but then if you ask me,
like where do you see yourself in two years? And
then I'm like, oh my god, where's she going to
be going to kindergarten? Like we have to start touring
schools we have to start applying this fall, and that's
(18:13):
as far as I can get.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm like, let's just let's get her into kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I can't even it's hard to struggle. I'm going through
therapy right now and trying to figure out what the
hell is going on with me. My daughter is very OCD,
she's a counter and all those things and the intrusive thoughts,
and so, you know, me and her bond over that experience,
but it's difficult to figure out what to do and
(18:37):
try to make it better and try to internally go okay,
that's an intrusive thought. Let me just move on, Like
you know, it's hard. So you said you're turning forty.
Is there some big birthday plan? Who's on the guest?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm literally at a I have no idea what I'm
going to do. We wanted to do an all incline
US a resort in Cabo, and do like a big party,
and then it just wasn't coming together as easily as
I wanted it to. And my birthdays on a Wednesday,
the Friday after my birthdays, literally two days later, we
(19:14):
have a wedding in Vegas. So now I'm thinking do
we just go to Vegas and do Wednesday Thursday, have
a down day, spa day, and then the wedding Friday.
So I'm thinking we might just do Vegas.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
But it sounds easier.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
It does, and I want to invite everyone, you know,
Like I want to go somewhere where. I really liked
what we did for Bravocon night one when we all
went up to the Foundation Room and just that whole area,
Like I'm kind of just thinking something that's like that
kind of vibe doesn't necessarily have to be a rented
out space, private party, but somewhere with a good view,
(19:49):
good drinks.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, Let's talk about the Indian of Vanner punt Roles
a little bit as somebody that was on a show
for over a decade and then in ended. For me,
it was devastating for me. It took me like a
whole year to feel normal again. Did you go through
that grieving process?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I think we felt it coming, to be honest, and
I feel like we had a bit of a heads up,
so it wasn't a complete shock when we got the call.
Still it was like, oh, Okay, that finally happened. But
then they're like, but you know, you're gonna be on
the Valley. So having filmed the Valley in place of
(20:30):
Season twelve last summer, I felt like I still got
my fix and I didn't yeah skip a beat, even
though it was different. It was a lot of our
same crew, same showrunner, so it kind of felt like home,
and I feel like that was an easy transition out
of one thing to just kind of hop into another.
(20:50):
But it's gonna be really weird when you know there's
vander pumber Well season twelve and we're watching previews for
the next week.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I know, Oh, do you know any of the cast members?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I do.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I know a couple of the girls who one of
them I had worked with there back in the day.
She's been there for many years and I wanted to
get her on the show like season seven, but she
was pretty much only friends with me and didn't really
fit in the rest of the group. So I'm really
excited for her and then her best friend I met
more recently at SIR when I was just there for
(21:24):
a night with Captain Jason, so I talked to her
and you know, yeah, so I'm really I'm excited for them.
You know, this show has brought so much opportunity to
my life, and I'm excited for the new kids to
get there.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now, do you think that they should have kept some
of their original cast members? Because we know how hard
it is to recast a show and get people invested
in it. I mean, we're they're having problems with Real
Housewives of New York. Now, do you think that they
should have or do you think you guys have kind
of outgrown it and now you're better suited for the Valley.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Like Peter still works at the restaurant, you know, so
I feel like he should be a part of it.
You still have Geirmo and Natalie Lisa, so I guess
you maybe do.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Have some the same.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm more curious how they're going to start the first episode,
you know, because it was so iconic when we went
from Housewives Seemless vander Pump Rules, So are they going
to do something similar? Are some of us going to
get a call to appear?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's what I was wondering, if you guys are going
to get they haven't have they started filming yet or not?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I think they're filming in April, I heard, but they
haven't started yet.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
What's your relationship with Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I don't talk to her too often. She usually calls
when she needs something.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
That was recent.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
When I talked to her, she had a question about
a friend of mine on another show of hers, and
that was pretty much it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, you're some use to her. So she has nothing
to do with The Valley right, she.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Has her name on it. She's technically an executive produce.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Of course she does, but she doesn't.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Know anything going on on it. When she found out
Kristen was pregnant, she asked if, like we knew who
the dad was, and we're like, you're an executive producer
on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I read that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I read that he's.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Very much not involved, but she has her name on
the show.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh my god, So where do you stand right now
with both Ariana and Sandoval?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I actually was with Ariana last night.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
We had a mutual friend's birthday, so we spent the
most time we've spent together in a while, and it
was really fun. Sandoval, I have not talked to him
and I don't even know how long, but.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, did you watch him on Traders?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I did, and I thoroughly enjoyed this season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It was so good.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm obsessed with that show.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, it's well, you'll be on it sooner or later.
I know it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
How are you currently supporting Ali now? The current situation
with her and James? We had discussions years ago about this.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I remember me, you and Raquel at Bravocan and so
I was actually also with Ali yesterday. She just did
a play that my sister was in.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It was so she's doing really well.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
She has a new podcast coming out called Starstruck, where
she is going to be having celebrities on and reading
their birth charts, and she has a new apartment.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She's her really well.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I've been there with her from the morning after I
got the call that he was around, and I've just
been there for her in any way she needs support.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But she's doing really well.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I'm really proud of her because I know it's never
easy to leave that kind of situation because when it's good,
it's great, but when it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And I'm just happy that she's out.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I never really understood that relationship, and then being around
them that one time, I'm like, what the hell, You're
so cute, so sweet, such a good gurl, I'm like,
what are you doing? I wanted to shake her, but
all the best to her for sure. Were you surprised
at Jack's announcement about his addiction.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I can't say I was surprised.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I'm more so surprised that he finally admitted it, which
you know also is not an easy thing to admit.
But the timing of it, the little sauce.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
You know, about to start.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You're trying to get some sympathy, So the timing of
it was interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But I can't stay I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, it has Brittany on the wake of Jack's announcement,
I'm sure it was no big revelation to her.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, I mean he has just been awful to her.
You know, she has been through it. She was at
the birthday dinner last night as well, and she is
such an incredible mother, very strong woman, and Cruse is
really lucky that he has her. You know, she has
just been through so much over the last ten years.
(26:29):
And similar to you know, Ali and Raquel and the
girls who are with these narcissistic men, and it's even
if it's not physically abusive, there's so many other types
of abuse and just again I'm happy that she's out,
you know. I'm happy that her and Ali are doing
well and taking care of themselves, and I'm just glad
(26:50):
that she's out of that situation.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know her, but
she just seems so sweet. She is so sweet, so kind.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It was another situation.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm like, why why are they together? Do you think
that it's time for Jacks to hang up his reality
TV career?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I mean, I get it, he's entertaining, he's good TV.
But also when a bad behavior is rewarded with, you know,
another season, another season, it's like, yeah, I don't know.
He wasn't around as much, or at least not around
me this current season that's about to air. So yeah,
I don't know what's gonna happen next season, but.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It'll be interesting. What are you most excited to see
next season on The Valley.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm hoping Summer Moon has her little appearance in it.
They did film at my house, so that'll be just
cute to see, you know, whenever she's on camera, she
was swimming and whatnot. But I don't know, I'm just
I'm excited to see me with a new group on
a similar show. I think it'll be exciting. I hope fun,
(28:02):
but it was also I mean there were some explosive
moments that I've heard about that I'm like, oh, I
can't wait to see that, you know, I just I
got the call about it, but now to watch it all,
to see their Hawaii trip that I was not on,
I'm excited to see that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Kristen's engagement.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Are you close to Kristin?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
We go up and down.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
You know, it's like we'll talk every day, then we
don't talk for a month, and then we find our
way back. So it's definitely one that ebbs and flows,
but you know, nothing but love for her and excited
for her baby baby girl on the way.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh that she should be do pretty soon, right.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I think she's got like two more months.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Two months now sta see somebody that we really haven't
seen back on reality TV.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I'm set her back.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, so it's like she she took a long break.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
She really did.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
What do you say to people who think that the
other Van of Pump Rolls cast shouldn't show up to
the valley? Do you think that there's like certain people
from your cast or Vandon pump roles cast that will
beginning spin offs maybe Valley.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, I mean I could definitely see that. I could see,
you know, something around Ariana and Katie and the sandwich shop.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, I could totally see that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So, you know, some of us who it makes sense
to move on to the Valley that you know makes sense,
but then some I mean, I hope that everyone you
know continues to do something in this space, whether it's
another show or you know, a new podcast. Everyone has one, everyone,
but not everybody needs one.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Valley has a podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I mean, it seems to be the thing to do
almost now.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Jesse doesn't, but pretty much everyone else.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh my god, that's funny. Do you go to their
sandwich shop?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I am not in West Hollywood that often. Usually, like
when I come here to record my podcast is like
the one time I'm in West Hollywood, but then I
have to go back over the hill to pick up
somewhere from school, So I'm not in this area as much.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But so you don't have a favorite sandwich from.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I'm what it was called. It was the Turkey sandwich.
I'm a basic bitch when it comes to sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Anything on it I am.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I'm like, if I go there, it would be the
turkey sandwich, the grilled cheese or one. It was like
a peanut butter and jelly, but I think it had
like chips or something on it.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's but no, everything they're so good.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They have lover Boy there, so I love that you
get those little Bravo crossover a.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Little cross promotion there. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, thank you so much. Is there anything else you
want to talk about?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
My podcast Every First Shenanigans. The book available for pre order.
This is, you know, the biggest, one of the biggest
things I think I've ever done in my career. It's
terrifying but exciting and yeah, I'm just happy that people
will get to have my full story through my voice,
(31:14):
in my own words, and I hope they understand me
a little bit better after reading it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, I know reality TV.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's funny because people want to one hundred percent judge
you on an edited TV show that polarizes your you know.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Usually your worst behavior. So look, and it's hard and
from somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You've gotten a lot of shit on social media and
I have to last year was probably one of my
worst ever and it is hurtful.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
As much as you think I don't care about what
people are saying.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's hard, and I do personally think that there needs
to be new laws set with Instagram, Like I'm all
for this freedom of speech, but when people are sending
you death threats and saying horrible things, it's not okay.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
No, And it's just for the people.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I look at it from a perspective of what is
so wrong in your life that you feel okay to
go on to a stranger's page say the meanest things.
And then I look at their profile and it's like
a Bible verse, a photo of their dog, their children,
And so if their profile is public, I will go
comment on a photo of their children and just say
(32:24):
I pray for your kids that they never get like
you're doing to me. I'm just going to say a
prayer for them because the fact that this you're a parent,
I mean, like, come.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
On, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I remember having a meeting with Bravo and they told me, listen,
just know that the people that are very vocal like that,
it's three percent of our viewers.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Like now a lot of them are hired butts nowadays, Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
The thing is too, when we're at Bravocon, when we're
at these type of events and stuff, every single person
is so nice, So like, you know, that's it's not
what's online. It's having those interactions with the fans, Like
I'm so excited for a book tour. I don't think
anyone's gonna come up and say something rude like that's
commented on my Instagram.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, I don't think I've ever had in the
seventeen years, anybody come up to me and say something
nasty to my face.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, I can remember. Maybe they have, but I really
can't remember.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, totally. A question for you, how is filming going?
Can you tell me? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I wish I could tell you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I can just say it's been very difficult for me
with a lot of stuff that, you know, personal stuff
that's going on. It's always hard when real life stuff
is really bringing you down.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's hard, really hard.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Do you feel better about this season though, than last?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what, I didn't feel bad about last season
and then it aired, I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
No, Crystals, I'm like, how are you? And You're like, wow, Mike, no,
I've seen.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm like, how the hell did that happen? You know,
it's it's it was. It was brutal for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And then you know, it's like there's people on the shows,
all the shows across the board that move storyline and
get things going, and then sometimes you are, you know,
the asshole shit store because you're trying to get things going.
So it's like you're damned if you do and you're
damned if you don't. Totally it's difficult. But one last question,
(34:21):
ask about how it felt that Lady Gaga was gonna
miss her? Wait what Lady Gaga said she was going
to miss you?
Speaker 5 (34:29):
On a lie detector test for Vanity Fair, they asked
her if she was excited for a new cast of
Vanderbump Rolls and she says no, yes, no, and they're
like inconclusive, and they go, who are you going to
miss most from the original cast, and she just goes.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Sina on a line. Though I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Then I hear that she's hosting and a musical guest
for SNL and so NBC got me tickets. I went
to the show, hung out with her at the after party,
say like it was so iconic. I've had such a
crazy month between Lady Gaga, the Jonahs brothers and math singer.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
March has been insane for me.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
So I feel like I'm getting my mojo back, I'm
getting my r and we're going to go into forty
feeling good.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Being far and again, I'll tell you this, just relax,
have a good time with your family, because you know,
once you start filming stuff, it takes away from family
time and it keeps you busy and you're not able
to go to your second house as much to relax.
So take it all in right now, you know, because
you are going to be booked and busy here pretty soon.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Kay.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We've been wanting to do this for so long, So
I'm glad. I know why. I know Shenanigan's with you
as well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, let me know.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Let me know all the love Teddy as well, you know,
I will, I will.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I was hoping to see her today, so hopefully that happens.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
But thank you so much first and love to the family,
same to you, Okay, bye bye,
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