The Ultimate Mean Girl (RHOP & RHOSLC Recap)

RHOSLC Season 4 is officially over... do we forgive Heather for lying about the black eye?! Is Monica the ultimate mean girl with her burn book?

Plus, is RHOP tempting Teddi and Tamra to get matching tattoos?!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
And Tama Judge. How's it going to tamp? It's good.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm in Big Bear. Just I think that the house
is about as don as it's going to get, except
for the contractor came over and was replacing the baseboards
and we come home to orange electrical chords running through
our kitchen.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm like, what the why is it like that?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well, we called him and he's like, oh, as I
was leaving the power blue. Don't know how, No, I
have no idea how it happened. And I'm like, really,
you're like, m h uh huh so the power behind
the refrigerator blue. So now he's got to come back
and have electrician And I'm just like, just when you finish, right, No,

(01:04):
mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm like, you can he go even if you're he
can go, even if you're not there.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, but I don't at this point, you don't trust him. No,
It's just like I came home to disaster, Like I
know what, there's one little scratch on the wall in
this house and the cabinet was nicked, isn't it. And
I'm like, so, I'm like, I don't want anybody in
the house anymore unless I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You're Edwin ari alve Junior.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, it's just Eddie's up. He's like, well, just let
him coming on, Like, yeah, that's time.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm like, whatever, go yeah, I don't know why I'm
casual about that. But nothing else Like Edwin's like, did
you get the gate fixed? I'm like, no, told you
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I don't know anything else about that. That's it. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Also, you guys, this is a big week for us
because it's our live show. If you haven't bought tickets yet,
make sure that you purchase them because we will be
in San Francisco on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You can do add ons, we can do a meet
and greet, we can do a toast, what else can do?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
We can do it all. Whatever you want. We're here
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
And we have Angie k there, we have Cynthia, we
have Emily, we have the ads.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I mean, we're very booked up. We are booked and busy,
booked and busy, very busy, very busy.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Before we get into the breakdown, I'm looking at our
questions for us. Oh, They're so hard to pick one
because all of them are pretty brutal.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Why would you ask?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I said, what questions do you have for me? In
Tamra and.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Let's hear them. It's like reading mean tweets.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Do you feel replaced.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
By Morgan like Dreit does or is she acting per usual?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
We've already talked about this on the pod.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well what's the answer.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
No, I've never been like that with anyone, Like even
when it came to your and Vicki's friendship. I never
like one friendship can't exist with that, like because another
one exists.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
The loyalty there is, like you know what you're friends
with through you're friends with. There's a lot of people
on housewife shows that I'm friends with and maybe possibly
they're not friends with somebody on their cast, but I am.
I don't feel like I have to pick sides.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, And also, you get what you give if you
feel like you're one hundred percent there for somebody and
you're there not one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
No, I'm not one hundred percent for any of my friends.
I gotta be real, honest, I'm barely one hundred percent
for myself.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
But if you feel like you're giving to a friendship
and you're not getting in return, that's one thing. But
I seriously doubt that that's happening. Oh the next.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Question, is Teddy feel replaced by Kate Chastain. Yes, I'm
really hurt by Oh my.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
God, according to the press, you have been replaced.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, none of it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Monica has admitted to cyberbulling, stalking, and a legally recording cast.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Should she be fired?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Okay, so Wanica has been cyber stalking? What was the
other one?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's these are words from Instagram? Yeah, and our questions.
This is not my wording. Monica has admitted to cyberbullying, stalking,
and illegally recording cast.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Should she be fired?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Illegally recording casts? When did that happen?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm assuming what they mean is when she would go
and film Genshaw or film her from.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
The I was trying to get information on her because
she was Okay, I'm not sure that I absolutely believe
that whole security camp thing.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I think what happened was my security camp.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, she she was there when the security camps were
put up. She got the log in. They probably gave
her information. Is what you have to do. This is
your you know, create your log in. She probably had
Genshaw's log in, and if she wanted to, she can
go in. It's like ring camera, right, Like if I
want to go in on my son's ring camera, if
I knew the past word, I can go in and
get the information. Whatever Jen wanted.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Allegedly Jen wanted wanted it in Monica's name. This is
according to Monica, So we don't know if this is
true or false.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
But the point is I do. There were parts that
I wish that.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
If Monica would just take an accountability for and they
kind of could have moved through it a little bit. However,
if I was on my spare time going on your
ring cam and watching you, even if I did set
it up for you, I still think that's weird.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I sent you a picture of Spencer and his girlfriend
walking into the house last night from the ring camera,
and I said, this is the only only way I
can get a damn picture of my son anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
It was your home, Yeah, my home.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's the only time. The only time I get a
picture of him is he covers his face. So I'm like, oh,
this is a cute picture of them walking in.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I said, how Monica of you? Will we be doing
more live shows?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know. Maybe we'll see. I mean it's not
like we have a whole world tour set up, but
this is the first time we're getting her feet wet.
We're gonna see if you like it. And who knows?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Okay, this next one?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
What do we think about the comment by Erica on
Watch What Happens Live about Kyle.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
That she's sick of the would she say, like thinking
along the lines of like she should you know, like
not she's called herself a cun t or something like that,
and she said, listen, like I'm being c un t y, but.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think that I was a viscerated last year, and
I think that should play across all things.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Andy did well, Andy did say like when the reunion comes,
he's got a lot of questions. But I agree with
with Erica. I do I feel like she's kind of
skating through this. And there's obviously a lot of rumors
out there, but she really her feet are not held
with fire, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But I can't say this. I do find a very
and I love Erica. I love you, Erica.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
If you're listening to this, I am simply responding to
what we have witnessed. I do think that there is
a big difference between what went down with Tom Girardi
and what we're saying between Kyle. Oh.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I don't think she will disagree with that. I think
that what she was basically saying, like, if I'm going
to be exposed for what went down with me, why
is Kyle so protected? Why isn't her stuff exposed?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
But my question is, because I only saw the clip,
did Andy ask Erica this or did.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
She just give this on her own?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I don't remember, only shows Erica talking about it, so
I'm curious if Erica brought it up herself.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I don't remember. Honestly, I didn't watch it. I just
saw the clip.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like you, I know that's the problem, So we don't
really know. I do know that those girls are good friends,
and by those girls, I mean Erica and Kyle, and
I hope that whatever was said, and however both people
are taking what was said that they work through it,
because I do know that they love each other.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
In caravan, yeah, she sends up yeah, so, and I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's like sometimes you sit when you go and watch
what Happens Live or the after show or any of
those things. You say something and then you realize after
you said it, maybe I took it too far.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, but I I understand what she's saying. I know,
we got a little bit of a different to I'm
not going to elaborate on it, but I understand what
she's saying all right.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Other than that, I mean, the questions are all things
that you can't answer, like how's camera filming going?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Why does it look like you haven't left Big Bear?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because Hamera doesn't post on social media like me, she
doesn't have like an.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Over Yeah, I'm not going to share anything about filming
on social media. I feel like that gives away the season,
and I hope nobody else does either. We have Sundays
and Mondays off, so I happen to not have to
film on Saturday. Well, when you first start out filming,
there's only one crew that is based out of Orange County,
and within a couple of weeks we end up with
three crews. So with the amount of girls we have,

(09:05):
you know, the first week or two is very sparse.
You don't film a lot, and then it's like full force.
So for me now I probably will be in Big
Barns Sundays and Mondays. Yeah, depends on my family schedule.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's like to give it gives you a little escape
from everything.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
This next question, what housewife blog like reality Vontie comes
for us the most? This I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
On my own.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm going to need our producers to help us out here.
Which one comes for me the most?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We can give them light if they need their bread.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
You know what, if somebody's really coming after me, I
usually block them and the name of their handles really
isn't stick in my head. So, I mean there was
account that was coming for me for a long time.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh now I remember who it is.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, and I think they've stopped, don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean here's the thing. I think that we all
get it. I mean I get it the most. I
get a lot from all the accounts, So it would
really be hard for me to narrow it down to which.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
But I do think there's ones that we enjoy.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
But anyhow, I don't take it. I don't really take
it too serious. I mean there's so many out there,
so many, but there are some really good ones like
the ones. Yeah yeah, queens Queen, Yeah, that's the one
I run.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean, you've been, you've been busy, you've been and
I didn't know you were a Robin.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I was a what Robin? What's that?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I guess on photomac, Remember how Karen called herself like.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Thend the domn that's it. Yes, grand Dom is what
she calls hern Dom.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So I guess Robin started a joke saying that her
fans are called the Robin's. So I guess Queen's of
Bravo is a big fan of Robin and not a
huge fan of Candace.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Mine are called minor, called tamarrats, minor called.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
They don't exist, oh god, minor called invisible.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Anyways. So oh, the gnat and the rat okay, yeah,
the nut in the rat. Then that is a nice
ring to it. Maybe we should go and costume to
the live show.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
You can be a gnat and I can be a rat.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah. I feel like it'll be easier to dress as
a rat than a gnat.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
You can get wings, you can even you can even
make it sexy. You can't do that with a rat.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I love to be a sexy gnat. Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
The Housewive headlines Monica Garcia's former friend of ten plus years.
Oh I saw this exposes Monica for committing illegal crimes
plus for multiple affairs. Bitch of Bravo's Instagram post. I
guess they slid into a bit of Bravos dms. This
is what I can't stand. It's like, you don't need
to share my information. I'm not trying to out anybody

(12:09):
on anything, but I just if you're not trying to, well, there's.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Nothing better than a former friend coming out and speaking
on your behalf. I mean, come on in a negative
light and a negative light, I'm like, oh, so good?
Does this make you feel better?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, it is a thing.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So in the Instagram post, there are screenshots of texts
from Monica's former friend. Yeah, Monica saw Jinn as a
stepping stone for her career. Her dream has always been
to be a TV star. She idolizes Kim K and the.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Rest of the world does too.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
She was also asking me for money and when I
wouldn't give it to her, she attempted to blackmail me,
which put a huge strain on our friendship. I'm going
to give a little PSA to everybody. Never loan your
friend's money unless.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
You're giving it as a gift gift, I expect to
get it back.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Just if you're giving money away, expect that you will
never get it back, and it'll save you a lot
of ruined friendship. That's why I don't loan Monday. If
I do, I'm gonna say, okay, right here it is.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Here's a gift.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yep, I agree, And if they pay me back or
they do something nice for me, great, But I am
not going to expect it. But I do owe you
one hundred dollars Camra, which you will never get.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh okay, what bet did you lose?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I forgot Frank and Brittany, Oh that's right, yeah, But
I mean I feel like i'll get I mean, at
some point when we're in San Francisco, I'm sure one
of us will forget our credit card where and Wan
won't be there to help us out.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
So that was a good one. But did you see
that tweet somebody put out there how Wan would make
a great trader. No, because he's still convincing his wife
that he's a faithful.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I died laughing when I saw that oh gosh, there's
more about this. Monica friend CoA.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
The designer is now living rent free and Monica's house,
allegedly in exchange for his designs. While Jin got on
the show, Monica suggested that Jen installed security cameras. Jen
was not home when they were installed the cameras, so
they set up all the cameras to Monica's phone.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Monica would log in to watch.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
It's not set up to her phone. It's a log
in log in. Here's your password, here's what you download.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Like it's here.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Here's the thing I'm going to show you guys right now.
My husband actually owns an alarm company. Yeah, I have
a pretty.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Good but I also know that this it is not
like we have rentals.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
It is not legal for us to have cameras inside
of a home, even if we own it, if other
people are inside of it.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
So I don't imagine you have.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Cameras in your home. You're creepy. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Cameras in my home.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I know.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't like I have camera. I have cameras and
all of our entrances.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And then in Dove's room, because if Dove were to
get up and go somewhere in the middle of the night.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I wanted to like ding me.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I can understand that, and camera, maybe you don't.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Want to admit this because you don't want to get robbed.
Oh yeah, yeah, she has tons, you guys.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I have cameras all over my house, like outside, outside
of the house. But I guess I'll put cameras on
the inside now. I like it was like co invasion
of privacy, Like what if I'm home alone and he's
creeping on me.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or something but nobody but you, like if Jen, if
these were not put in Monica's name, Monica should never
have access after like Jin should have immediately changed her
log in information.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, then then it's on Jen.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I don't want to creep on anybody. I can't even
somebody butt dials me and there's on the other line.
I hang up because I'm so nervous about listening to
what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh I stay on. I'm like, of course you do.
I don't want in case, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Go onto somebody's security camp. I feel like that is
really yucky. And I like Monica and I think she's
needed for the show, but I wish she just would
have said like, I really had so much hate for
this woman, and I did anything in my power to
try to expose her. And I processed, Yeah, all she
had to say was that I cross the lines. Oh

(16:19):
this next one, do you want to brag about yourself?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
And it's not even true. There was no headline. Somebody
made that up.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
There's a variety article here. The Power of Tan or
Judge the Traders.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Season two becomes Peacock's most watch reality premiere, up seventy
five percent from season one. We may have added a
little twatz twist.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Oh, I did not write that. Somebody did, and it's
not the power of me. I was so sick on
that trip that I felt like I barely spoke, which
gave me the opportunity to really listen, which was good,
Which is good.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Maybe I should get sick and do something.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, you have to admit I wasn't as of now.
I up till episode four, I am not my vocal,
outgoing self because I was on so much medication to
try have my eyes open.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
My favorite part was because this is so you what's
the guy's name who's on Bling Empire, Kevin? Your rage
when it comes to Kevin's chewing. All I could think
about was, this is what Eddie lives with. Between Kevin's
chewing and John's breathing, they were very problematic for you, Tam,
and I get it.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't want the open mouth chewing.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But if you guys want to hear more about Tamar's
hot takes, make sure that you tune in to her
Traders podcast.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's on the two teason a pod feed. And are
you doing What are you doing? The next one Friday? Friday?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Okay, yeah, when I get home from San Francisco, I'm
going to do another one on Friday.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
This past one was so good. The end oh good.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I don't want to give any spoiler alerts, but
I really like it's good. I'm love and the housewives
are dominating and I'm loving and Phedra.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Is so she's so good, so good, so good.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I was like, I don't think I could ever even
be like, she's just so chill about anything when she's
caught and stuff like, it's I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Actually yeah, she well she's an attorney.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh true. Yeah. Let's talk about the Real Housewives of
Miami reunion seating chart.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, let's see Okay, it's Andy hot seat is Larsa.
Lisa's the next spot, doctor Nicole, and then Adriana.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
On Andy's left side, we have Gertie, we have Alexia,
we have Julia, we have Kei Ki, and then we
have Marisol. What is your take on this? Do you
agree with it?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I'm actually a little bit shocked. I kind of thought
Lisa should be in the front, Like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I really thought that Lisa. I think that Lisa and
Larsa should be swapped. I think Lisa there was so
much about Lenny this year. Uh, what do you think
about Marisol being at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean, it's gotta It would be one thing if
she was, you know, toe to toe with Adriana, but
the fact that she's sitting past Adriana.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Is really probably driving her mad.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
But yeah, and it's hard to predict because we haven't
seen the rest of this season, so who knows.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, according to scenes for you know, I saw scenes
and I think that Larsa really gets into it.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
It gets activated this week.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
You know who's activated? Megan King? Meghan King is activated
this John Janssen, Johnny j and Alexis dating has pushed
her over the edge, Alexi Leno calls out Megan King
for calling John Jensen and narciss So there was a
lot of stuff that went back and forth. Evidently, Meghan

(20:04):
went on an interview I believe, and she basically read
her text messages between Meghan and alex herself. Yeah. Yeah,
so they she read the text messages and then Alexis she.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Was just sharing it with her close friend. Page six, Page.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Six, And do we have do we actually have the
text messages?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, they're right here.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
So Megan, really, I'm not only in shock. I'm oh,
this is I'm assuming from Alexis.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
This is after But do we have the actual text
messages between them?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think he revealed or I don't know if those
were actually revealed, but they are saying different things.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Megan just read them and they oh she just read them.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, and then Alexis is saying that essentially it wasn't true.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I will have to say that I think that Alexis
won this by her e News article that she posted.
This former rhoc star says she tried to rejoin the
cast for season sixteen, but was rejected, so she put
this article in on top of it. She wrote sharing
our private text with the world. Maybe the lowest point
yet in your pursuit of fame. Find a different friend

(21:18):
to use Megan O'Toole king mcdial Edmunds biden Owens and
it's just and then it was a picture of her
and Meghan and her last husband. I can't remember his name,
but I feel like then she just dropped the mic
right there, She just dropped that mic. She did send
Megan a text message. Really, I'm not only in shock,

(21:41):
I'm completely heartbroken because I thought we were you are
my two friends. Maybe read this text to page six.
I thought Megan was my friend in concern for my
vulnerable heart. However, she's actually the one who just chose
fame over friendship to disclose certain private texts that were
false and taken out of context. Not a narcissist, Megan,

(22:01):
Your information is wrong. I'm disgusted and completely hurt.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Now.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
I know there's a word that's going around gaslighting narcissist.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
No, it's he's loved bombing you that I'm telling you
right now, that's a word that comes out of Shannon's mouth.
So her using that is something that Shannon had obviously
told Meghan.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
We know that I've already gotten into arguments with Jim Edmonds,
like I really tried to have Megan's back.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
All of these things we have to also.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Remember, and this all played out on social media and
on her podcast that she had at the point in time,
she pretended to have a fake boyfriend at an event
solely to get people to listen to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I just find that odd. And then you're going to
comment on people's relationships.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, I don't understand it completely. I don't understand at all,
to be honest with you, because I don't know that
they were that close, and I don't think that I
might be wrong. But I don't think Megan's ever spent
any time with John. And I'm not sitting here defending John.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right, We've never spent any time with Wan and we
talk about him.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
But he's on TV. He's were recapping a show. This
is different. She's not on TV anymore. She doesn't spend time.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, Megan has only been on the show with
David Badore, so she hasn't she.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Doesn't actually knows she's commenting on something she's seeing. But
I think there is a difference, Like it would be
one thing if I was texting with Robin about Wan
and then I started reading my text messages with Robin
about Wan versus watching a show and commenting on what
I'm seeing in those five seconds of Won.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I think those are pretty strong words to call somebody
that you've never met.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, but how close is Megan with Shannon.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I didn't think they're close at all at all?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
So maybe she's just maybe she's just doing this to
get it out there and pressed. Maybe I don't know
who knows this screenshot I can share more on. Kyle
posted screenshot of Sutton on The Real Housewives Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
After show, she.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Wrote, I want to clarify this I did many time
in regards to Moe not coming to celebrations to Life,
the celebration of Life. The way it plays out on
the show is that Moe did not like want to come. Yeah,
I know for firsthand he did and offered up that

(24:36):
he would change his like that date of that event
was scheduled multiple different dates because they're trying to make
sure that everyone could attend.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I think where I got confusing is in Kyle's confessional.
She had said herself, I wish Marisa would have came
and surprised her.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
So I think she's.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Said but but you have to also remember in the confessionals,
they're going to ask you specific question. So I'm sure
the question was do you wish Maurcio would have come instead?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
No one, But I think that's where it's getting all confusing,
is like she said that, and now people are like, well,
why wasn't he there?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
And was there any other husbands there?

Speaker 4 (25:17):
No, there was no husbands.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
There was no husbands. And I do know for certain
he wanted to be there and.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
He wanted to be there, he wasn't there. Let's move on, people.
People just want to look into every little time. Yeah,
because I really.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Want to get into the esophagus and anesthesiologists again, because
that's really where I thrive.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, go ahead and read because I got I actually
got a DM from somebody, or actually I got a
text message from a nurse, and you can go ahead
and read about the.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Okay, the real housewives know a fake.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Anesthesiologists are medical doctors with more than twelve years of
higher education up to sixteen thousand hours of clinical training.
Title misappropriation has no place in healthcare. Essentially, they break
it down an Anesthesiologists must complete medical school, have twelve
to fourteen years of education, complete this amount of hours,
and then nurse anesthesicists do not complete medical school, have

(26:18):
five to seven years of higher education, complete twenty five
hours of clinical training, focus on anesthesia administration. Do not
participate in sub specialty fellowships. Anne Marie responds to this
with an instant story. I do not contone the ASA's
defamation campaign. I am a CRNA, a certified registered nurse anesthesist.
I'm extremely proud of my profession. I will not be

(26:39):
accused of title misappropriation because a cast mate needed a
storyline on a reality television show. This is my real
life in my career. I'm not an esthesiologist, nor have
I ever claimed to be one. I have immense respect
for physician anesthesiologists, and I asked that the ASA and
other anesthesiologists show respect to CRNA's as well. This type

(27:00):
of unhealthy discourse only causes friction and professional division. Political
issues exist between physician and a ceologyency. All this continues on,
but then she somewhat takes accountability. The esophagus storyline was
not funny watching the show back now, I hate that
story just as much as everyone else.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I would be mad at me too.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
It was a line of questioning I should have never started,
and for that I sincerely apologize. That storyline was unauthentically
dragged on for far too long. I have been dragged
through the mud in the process. I just want to
highlight the real and reality TV. I don't get that part.
I want to highlight the real and reality TV.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I don't understand that either. But I will have to say,
this is her career. This is her freaking career, and
I don't especially like the fact that the ASA is
going after her. I don't know. I mean, she made
a mistake, she said something. She's trying to engage. Probably
she admitted here she shouldn't have said that. I'm not

(27:59):
you know, defended her in any way. But I had
Steven from Faces by Bravo. We all know him. He's
in the medical field as well, and he said listen
to two t's CRNAs are like nurse practitioners for anesthesiologists.
To be honest, I'd say it's the kreme de la
creme of graduate nursing degrees, super competitive, hard program. People

(28:22):
love it because it's the top pay in typically great hours,
and I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Think anybody is discrediting.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
The amount of work and how important CRNAs are, but
I do think you have to know and clearly Anne
Marie has watched the show that if you go in
and use your profession and like even I use the
word accountable.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Clearly I was a health and wellness coach. It had
nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
With affairs or liars or any of these other things.
And then that word was thrown in my face twenty four.
I don't know how much it was shown, but it
was constantly, Oh, misaccountability, misaccountability, like misaccountable for every life
choice you've ever made, Like I help people change their
lifestyles when it comes to fitness or whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
But that was a word, and I quickly learned.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I'm going to scale back from discussing these certain things
because then I'm going to get my business thrown in
my face.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think what she did was right,
and doctor Nicole said it quite clear, like, no, we
should not be doing this on YTV.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, I think the biggest offense is that somebody
in the medical field would be talking about somebody else's
medical condition, you like It's one thing for you know,
me or you to say something like, oh, you know,
like hey, Tam, I think blah blah blah's going on
with you. We don't actually know, we have no idea.
We're dumb dumbs.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
I just feel bad because at this point this has
got to be pop possibly hurting.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Her career, and of course it is.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I don't and I'm not talking I'm not talking TV career.
I'm talking her real career.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So yeah, and I'm sure I haven't talked to her,
but I am sure that I mean this amount of
and you know.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
How that goes. You know how when somebody comes after
your career, You've had people come after yours, it's very
like shit, like what do I do now? How do
I fix this?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And also just non it's been pretty relentless for her.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'm not saying what she didn't do is wrong, but
I think also she's probably watching it back and like crap.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
But then Crystal says on the after show that.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Anne Marie told her before she joined the show that
she was an antithesiologist, which is not you know, she goes.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
On and on and on, but they can't prove this.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, I'm not saying that this didn't happen, But I'm
not saying that it did, like if something happened off camera.
This is the most frustrating type of thing to comment on.
We have no idea, so we we're either going to
believe somebody who's now had a moment and we were
liking her and she seems, you know, Crystal's activated all
of a sudden, so now people are I just.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Think it's time too, we people have so many people
come out of the woodwork. I think it's time to
just leave her career alone.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
But I'm afraid that it's gonna get worse on this
next episode. One.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Let's just go after Monica.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I was gonna let's just go let's just talk about
the beauty lab.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Monica Garcia's lawsuit against other Gay's beauty lab dismissed.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
All right, you take this one.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Okay, but wait a minute, this is where I'm confused.
So Monica thirty nine filed a counterclaim lawsuit against Beauty
Lab and Lasers a few months ago after the Medical
Spa sued the reality star for not paying off her
alleged two thousand dollars debt, claiming beauty lab performed a
defective lip plumping procedure on her, similar to botoxic Jeck is,

(31:52):
so what thelip flip that? I don't know? I mean
just filler that went wrong? I don't know. After reviewing
old correspondent pleadings, the court dismissed her case since her
claim is time baired baired bard by the statue of limitations.
So it was so is the original lawsuit dropped two

(32:13):
or just Monica's lawsuit? That's where I'm cano.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Heather Gay's company lawsuit against Monica is still active.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
So why is that active?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
But oh, because she's saying she got bad plastic surgery.
So there's different statue to the limitations for owing somebody
money and getting bad services. Obviously correct, because if Heather's
lawsuit is still going, it's two thousand dollars just pay.
Do you know how much does not cost some legal fees?

(32:42):
And whether this has got to be small claims court?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Nini Leaf says Real Housewives of Atlanta needs a reset
on TMZ at LAX. Nini was asked if Real Housewives
Atlanta should be blown up, to which she replies yes.
She says keeping the same girls over and over again
is not a good look. Leeke says she thinks at
least half the girls have to get the boot. She's
not talking about anyone in particular, though, since Nini doesn't

(33:08):
even watch the show anymore insteat.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Then how would she know if she didn't watch the show?
I know, God, just admit it.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, and then Nini adds she could definitely help with
the show's ratings, but she doesn't seem so.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Did she disliked?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
She just slid that in there.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, she doesn't seem super interested in coming back, saying
she has no message for Andy Cohen or the Housewives team.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Well, obviously there is something going on with Atlanta. I
talked to Charay and they have not heard anything yet,
so they're taking their time. They're trying to figure it
out now. I have heard rumors over there on X
that Shary, Kenya, Candy, and Portia will be back and
they're bringing in some other.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Girls, and that would mean Drew Sonia Are those are
the only two that would be gone?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
What about Marlowe?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Marlow too?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
What about Courtney gone gone?

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I don't know. I mean that's what somebody put out there,
who really knows what's gonna happen. We will find out
soon enough. People, but they definitelyly need to shake up.
There's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Do you think Cynthia will be back?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Well, I don't know that Cynthia wants to be back.
Isn't she in La?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
No, she's back and forth.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Oh she's back and forth. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to
see her back.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
All right, Well, we're gonna take a quick break and
then we'll come back and discuss Potomac. We are back
to talk about the Real Housewives of Potomac starts off
for Mother's Day weekend. Karen her daughter are getting small
g tattoos for Karen's mother, Georgia. Karen says that tattoo

(34:53):
feels like giving birth.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Childbirth, let's not get crazy. But also at the it's
not that painful.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean, she got a little G I know, but
at this point this may be tattoos may go with.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
And I hate that you may fall privy to this,
but tattoos may go in line with.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Certain with charity events on things.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
We watch on houselats, Well, there's been quite a bit
of tattoos getting taken.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Can I see your arm camera? How many we got? Two.
Should we go get one in filment for the pod?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, no, no, wouldn't feel like childbirth. But the tattoo
worker interrupting Karen when she's trying to get Raven to
talk about Giselle. She's like, no, no, it's all the
time to interrupt me.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I was trying to move storyline.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I know, Okay, calm down.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
But then Candace is hosting an event to celebrate the
mothers of their group as well as their mothers.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
But then she.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Doesn't invite Gizelle's family and she's still thinking about inviting Robin.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
You know, this is a.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Problem, and this is what's problem with the problem with
this show. It's stale. There's no progression with this cast,
and that's a huge problem in my eyes. And I
feel like this, when you're on an ensemble cast, you
have to go to these events. Yeah, I mean if
you don't make an effort to go, I mean, if
you're sick or something or whatever, like Wendy had a

(36:36):
book to her like, I get that, but just not
to go, not to go because you don't really like.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Her to invite.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, when you start not inviting, I mean, listen, I
love Candace, I love her more than anyone, But not
inviting Gizelle yet she's inviting Ashley, who wrote a letter
in defense of Monique and whose husband is now suing
her is strange to me.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Don't like it. I don't.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
And that's the problem with this cast. They can't move forward.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
They have to move forward past this because what are
they going to do?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I see firing happening.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
You do, Yeah, I just think.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I think if we're supposed to believe that everybody that's
on every single show is true, friendships with every single
person and that's why they invite them.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Is just bull crap.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
If you sign on to do this, you're just gonna
have to go with the flow in that same aspect,
and even it, like if I was It's.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
One thing if I was having a dinner with three people,
but if.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You're inviting everybody except for one, it just doesn't make sense. Yeah,
I find it hard to believe that Candice is super
close with everybody but Giselle.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
How sighted was Karen's daughter to go to breakfast with
Giselle and her daughter? I mean she just looked over
the top excited, like are you serious?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Mom?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
But I did appreciate the flashback scenes.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, like between you could see when Karen and Gizelle
before they like had all of their issues. Like, they
have such a good banter with one another. And I
did appreciate it because.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
But Karen, Karen is so shady though. I mean the
whole thing about the cookie baking contest.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And letting her niece win.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, and her flashbacks. Yeah, her flashback. She congratulated her
for winning, and then in scene she's like, but you
didn't win.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, because of all I won. No, she said that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
She said that Karen cheated because she let her niece
or cousin or whatever it was win, because even though
Gizelle's cookies tasted better or whatever it may have been,
she didn't display it properly.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Karen gets exhausting to me sometimes.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I didn't mind her this episode, but they talk about
I do appreciate this stuff with the kids and going
away for college, and I talk about college already with
my kids. I'm fine if they go away or stay
in California. I probably would prefer them leaving California so
they get a different experience.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, it depends on the kids. Now, Spencer going away,
he's only an hour away, but I don't worry about him. Sophia,
on the other hand, we're trying to figure that out
right now. Most of the schools that she wants to
go to from music or in la and she's just
not mentally ready for that.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
She doesn't like to.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Drive, she's got really bad anxiety. She's very quiet. She
doesn't say a.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Lot, So I wonder where she got that from. Not me, Yeah,
I mean, I definitely think it depends on your child.
I mean I didn't go to college, so I don't know.
I did move out here and had a really hard
time my first couple of years. But my favorite part
of the scene was the waitress, who was clearly a
fan who had to wait around that extra five seconds

(40:13):
that seemed to touch too long to hear what was going on.
It is so good. Then we get back to the
inviting of it all. Candas invites Robin and her mother
to event. Robin is surprised. Robin says she would have
been fine to leave things as they were. Robin ends

(40:34):
up not going, and that.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Pisses me off. I think that she should have went.
If you're part of an ensemble cast, it's your job.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Go So what annoys you more the fact that Candace
didn't invite Giselle or that Robin didn't go.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Well, it doesn't matter these days if you don't invite
somebody because somebody else will bring them. Have we not
watched Salt Lake City? It's tough. I mean it's hard
if you're not getting along with somebody. I understand you
don't want him to go, but it's also a show.
That's what makes good TV is when that person shows

(41:11):
up that you don't get along with and then shit
goes down. So she the only thing she's doing is
hurting the show by not inviting, and the same with
Robin by not going. Yeah, and because it was a
bit of a snoozefest. Sorry, visually it was a beautiful party.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But it was a great place for Candice to be
able to sing again. Yes, with a group.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
But do you think Wendy was scared of bring her
mom around Mecco or she had the book signing.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Well, if she had the book signing, I don't think
you can really get out of that because you have
an agent that does that. But I'm sure she didn't
want to be around her. But I don't see Windy
backing down. She's not really that tight. It's not her personality.
I don't think she would.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
You don't find out a zen win no now wanted now,
but I did. I would be fibbing if I didn't
say that.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I did a little research and from what I discovered,
Wendy's book event was at six pm on May twenty third,
a Tuesday evening, nine days after Mother's Day. If the
Internet sleuths out there can let us know when exactly
Candace filmed, we.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Would appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Then we get to Charise telling Mia she saw Jacqueline,
which I would have appreciated them filming Scharise seeing.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Seeing Jacqueline, don't run?

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Did she just run into her?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You think? Or was it like because Meika was there too.
I think they made a plan.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
There was there was no like flashback right, so wo so.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
They probably film Maybe they filmed it and there was
nothing good.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But from what Nika said in her confessional, there was
a lot of juicy crumbs in there. But I know
and maybe they felt like it if it was filmed.
Maybe they thought it was too much of a Mia
bashing to show it.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Oh, if they filmed it, then we would have shown
we would have saw some kind of little flashback. I'm
sure this was a.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Really hard conversation because one person I think was making
good points in the other person.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Would that be a Candace.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Or what do you think? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I honestly, I see both sides, Camra.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I see both.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Sides, I really do. They're both like they both have
done some shitty things. But Candace, I mean her words,
her tongue is sharp.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I mean, I see Robin's side on this one.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I love Candace, but Candace asked Robin to explain how
she's heard her, and Robin says anyone would feel the
same if a.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Friend went on social print, TV media and spread lies
and dragged them.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I do not think for a second that Robin knew
in advanced Giselle was going to come after Chris.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Do you think that Robin's nice to Candace on her podcast?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Do you think that we're nice about everybody on their podcast.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
So I'm just saying, like she's done stuff too.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I'm goot it. But I also think there's a different I.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Wish Robin would have just said, Giselle's my best friend.
We're a lot closer than me and you have ever been.
Did I agree with what she did last year to Chris. No,
but she's my best friend. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna end a friendship over that.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
But she also had Chris's back and said, I never
saw this happen. I don't think that that's what he
was doing she did.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
What did Robin do to Candace?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
What Candas is alleging that Robin did was that Robin
knew that Giselle was going to bring up the fact.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
That Chris that's aged. Yeah, Oh I thought it was
my point.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I thought it was much more. I'm trying to think
back to the sit down that they had last season
at lunch.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Essentially, Candace is upset that what was brought up about Chris,
but Robin didn't bring it up, and she's upset at
Robin for not bringing up her own husband's affair. Allegedly,
she thinks that Robin knew that Giselle had a plan.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
I don't think that happened.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Only they know. But she can't be responsible for something
just Selle did. Yeah, so I guess I am leaning
more towards Robin on this.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
I mean, either way, it's but the problem is when
they go back and forth and back and forth and
social media and podcasts, that it just becomes an even
playing ground. Yeah, but I also have to ask you, Okay,
so if Eddie had an affair tomorrow, would you just
automatically bring it up to the group when he filmed
on Tuesday? Or would you wait for someone else to

(45:52):
hear about it and potentially bring it up?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Knowing me, I would probably bring it up.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Myself if you were still processing it and you were
gonna work.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I don't know. I haven't gone through that, so I
don't know, but yeah, probably. I mean if it was
off camera, then probably not.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I don't know. That's my point. Why would you?

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I don't know until you've been through that situation, honest.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I don't know a woman in the world that would
just without things playing out on camera. If if there
was a chance nobody else was going to bring it up,
would you out the father of your kids, like if
everything seemed to be whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I just don't know. That depends on how much I
hated him, That's my point.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
She clearly doesn't hate him that much, which is why
she's staying with him. And if other people were going
to find out and bring it up. That's on them.
But if she was going to do it like well,
I don't think anybody would do it themselves. Yes, is
it annoying to watch reality television show that isn't somebody's reality?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Do I think it was up to Robin to out
her own failure, especially if the other woman.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
I mean, it's got to be hard, that's all I
can say. It's got to be very difficult.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
But I mean, then after she got busted, she brought
it up on a paywall.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
But that's but that's okay, that's not okay.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
My point is she waited until it was already out
on national television. Why before it came out on national
television would she share this information.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Either way? Between that and that's.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Move on to Lyne cheating solidity, which I am pretty
thrown with us after listening to the last half of
it where Heather is kind of a little bit of
a hypocrite on this because she's been keeping a secret
for a year, if not longer.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I don't think she knows what happened. I'm sorry, I
don't think she does.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
I think she absolutely knows what happened. I think she
knows what happens. She doesn't want to say it, but
we'll get into that.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay, So let's take a quick break.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
We'll be back to talk about Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Andy asked Mary what her future in the group is.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Mary says she will continue to be her and if
people accept her, she will come back. Meredith says she
can give them all lessons on navigating Mary. I'm sorry,
I'm not reaching out to Meredith to navigate any relationship.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Well, don't you think that was kind of Andy low
key asking Mary? So do you think you're coming.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Back next year? But that would make sense if they had.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
They don't. He doesn't do that to anybody. So where
do you see yourself? Like, do you want to come back?
Do you not want to come back?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Well? I think immediately what happened was they had stopped
asking Mary to film?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Is what Mary? This season?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yes, they know she wasn't invited on the trip, She
was no longer invited to events. She told me this
on the red carpet, said that because she wasn't participating
and she was staying in the van and doing all
these things, they stopped asking her to film. But then
once the fans started watching her, they became she became
a fan favorite, regardless of what she was saying. So
then I think watching back, the executives or Andy or

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whomever it was, they want more of her because they
went back and filmed more after the fact, like that
scene with Heather and all of that was way after
I did.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Hear that it was difficult to get her to film
this season.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Well, she would go to film, but she wouldn't participate
in what they were doing, or she would be too
busy to show up.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Okay, well either way, I think he's the only person
ever I think that didn't show up to her reunion
but got us back. Yeah, that's a big deal. And
I think, but can we talk about how Lisa Barlowe
claims she gets her makeup done every single day? And
how about Mary Chinman? And this is why they do

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keep her. That's your insecurities. It's like, oh my god,
I missed the flashback freak out. I was like, Kayden,
I'm like, I didn't see this, or she starts freaking
out because he's all you were in Scotland when this episode.
Oh yeah, so I never saw it. She freaked out
because she had to film with no makeupun So, I
have a question if.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
We're really going to say every day every day, that.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Means if you are going nowhere, you're solely staying in
your home, you are not filming anything, you are not
doing anything. You're just either casual days don't exist for
her at all, or she's getting filmed to sit in
her home with her family, or I cannot understand.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I need an answer. I need an answer from her,
like does she mean.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Every day she leaves the house or does she mean
every single day?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Three hundred sex Well.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
She also says that she has a hair makeup people
on retainer, But.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Don't people get days off? I mean, I think you
have to get two days off a week.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I started thinking about that. But also I find every
excuse not to use hair makeup.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
How exhausting, how exhausting.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I mean, I don't know. I just like days that
I don't wear makeup, which is like almost always except
for a filmman, I do put a little bit of
foundation because it's got sunscreen in it and and lip
gloss and that's it, and I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I mean, I really think it depends on what's happening.
But going back to Mary for one second. Yeah, what
do you.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
When?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
When I was thinking about this, like, what do you
think some of Meredith's lessons would be on how to
navigate Mary? Like, don't don't ask Mary if you think
you look inbread, don't ask.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Mary, ask any don't ask Mary anything, period.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Don't ask Mary. You don't want to know something you do?

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Do?

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I look?

Speaker 4 (51:51):
One thing you don't want to ask Mary is do
I look pretty today?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
You do not want to ask her that She'll be like, no,
you look well haggard today, Tamra, you look terrible.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You let the little bad read You're more pink than
your two teas and a pod sign.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yes, the wrinkles under your eyes, Tammer, are just too
much for me to look at you.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You can see that Monica and Mary are forging a
relationship at this point, as the reunion concludes, you see
that those two are kind of banning together.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I think in hopes of them both coming back.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
I don't see a world where Monica doesn't get us back.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I mean I do, but I don't. I don't want
it to happen, because you know, Heather said it best.
The ratings have never been this good and I just
wish that they would give Monica some credit.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Somebody other than Mary has to forgive Monica.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Well, I see Whitney. I could see Whitney forgiving.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
She had a pretty big stance of no. I mean
I originally thought, well, that's.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Because at the Bravo con and I think she talked
to Monica and she got the stink guy from the
rest of her cast.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
But had they filmed the reunion by then?

Speaker 4 (52:59):
No, they just filmed it really after Bravocon, I think so.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
No, Yeah, reunion was a week after Bravo Con. Oh, yeah,
so you're right.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Wellnica.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Monica confirmed she is a part of Reality Bontee and
posted under the account name in twenty twenty one. She
feels the page did not come for any of the ladies.
Heather says the account has called her name, called her name,
and every person on the couch can give an example.
How if you were Monica, how would you handle this?

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Well, you know, I think that I would not with
the insults. She has a lot of them, Like, I'm
fine with being the villain in your lives because you're
the clown and mine, like we could have gone easy
on those, Monica, although they're very entertaining to listen to.
I think she should have just listened, said she was sorry,

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you know, exposed her part, which she did. She exposed
her part of it. I do truly think in her
eyes she doesn't think that she hurt any of the girls.
But Heather saying like, would she say something about you
took away the excitement of being a housewife or something?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
What was it to She's like it, I know, and
then she was like, this is the problem, Like, yes,
social media.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
There's two thousand other Housewife fan accounts that attack us
that have way more followers than reality of Bontee's.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I mean I think all Monica had to say was listen, guys.
Did I lie to you and have this burner account? Yes,
But after getting to know everybody, I realized that it
was wrong and I apologize and.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
I was having fun with you and I appreciate you all.
And did I want to be on the.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Show, Yes, But who didn't want like all of you
wanted to be on the show. We even go back
and we watch an old episode of Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
And you can see Lisa Barlowe in the background. I
didn't even know that it was I just saw that.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Yeah, so it's like so she.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I mean, you don't go on the show if you
didn't want to go on the show.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
No, there's people that were just cast. Like I was
just cast. I didn't know anybody.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I no offenced ham. That was a bajillion years ago.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I know. But there's people that just get cast. And
there's people that show up to your gym, want to
do a fitness competition, want to be your best friend
because they're trying to get cast. Do you blame them
for that? No, they're hustling. They're doing what they can
do like they have to. But you have to admit it.
If this is something you really wanted, you're going.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
For it, big deal.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Andy said himself. Plotting to get on the show is
not a crime. Yeah, And I mean I think there
is it annoying to the person that is happening to
that you feel like you're being used. Yeah it is. Yeah,
that somebody sees an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Even if you were just cast, you still go. It's
not like there's all of a sudden just a.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Hidden camera following you Like I had never watched Housewives,
but I wanted to be on television. And when my
agency reached out to me and said, would you be
a Housewife? I was like, do you think it's a
good idea? And then I auditioned. I didn't just magically
appear on the show.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
So it's every single person.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
There is some sort of like history of you wanting
to be on the show. You're not just immediately thrown
onto television without knowing except at the beginning of the
all of the franchises when nobody knew what was happening.
But at this point, like a bunch of years in.
But I mean, as much as we love Monica, the burn.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Book, the burn Book, okay, can we talk about the
burn Book? As she pulls it out and all the
cast season, Andy smiled so big and he loved every
second of it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I don't think he did.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
I think you, oh, I saw that smirk on his
face and smiling. If you want to bet we see
it in the clubhouse one.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Day, I think you will see it in the clubhouse.
But I think he truly didn't he did you see.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
This smile and smirk on his face? He could even
hold it back.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I think because it was so cringe like I think
he was. He didn't understand it, and to be perfectly honest,
neither did I. If she would have only made like
I mean, it didn't.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Help her case. Let's be honest. This did not help
her case. It was good TV, but you know she's
got that fine line that she crosses all the time
in a situation like this where if you do want
to come back to a show, you probably shouldn't be
pulling this these kind of stunts.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
But have you seen Mean Girls years ago?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I saw it, right, But the if you're gonna call
something a burn book and actually use the layout of
Mean Girls, then it has to actually make sense, like
half of it being a burn book and half of
being receipts of reality.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Vontife made no sense. And you could see that Andy
also thought it made no sense because he's like, so
explain this to me.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Yeah he was confused. Yeah, but I but he loved it. Sorry,
he loved it.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
This part we already talked about. Lisa lot says Monica
logged intogens.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
But I want to, I just want to. I want
to say this. This is what's confusing to me. They
could forgive someone who scammed the elderly and is in jail,
but they can't forgive Monica and.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Somebody that allegedly gave one of their cast members a
black eye.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
It just makes no sense to me, Tanisha, Why is
she not why is he they not mad at her?
Why is the cast not mad at her? She was
involved in this as well.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'm also confused how she got to get her name
beleeped out? Does that mean she wouldn't sign anything? But
yet she's all over social media talking about it.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
I don't know, because they were like, maybe they didn't
want to give her any any credit. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
But then this Monica has a little bit of a doozy.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
She says she did not stalk Gin, she drove by
her house two to three times.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
And then editors, they're just brilliant. They show all the
different tech taks.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I was like, I think, listen, I mean, did you
drive by your boyfriend's house when you were in high school?

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yes, very different, that's high school like.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
And we just drove by to see if they were
home or if there was another girl there.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, yeah, we weren't.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Like but I think driving by with binoculars.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, that's a little much driving. Yeah, I don't know.
I think that she got too into this FBI investigation
and she was trying to get her own little information
for what reason. I don't know, because I can guarantee
you the FBI did not ask her to do that.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah, like, hey, can you catch her drinking it?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Like? No. But then Heather continuing on saying that monarchy
ruined her experience as a housewife.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Yeah, that's what she said, she ruined.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
A little traumatic. I'm sorry. We deal with this as
long as social media's around. People were going to bash us,
do we didn't necessarily want those people on the show
filming with us.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
No, but look, no, every single Housewife event, if you
look around, you will see bloggers all throughout every party
because they will friend different housewives and then they are there.
So keep your eyes peeled, and I guarantee you'll see
some familiar faces that are also like I mean, even
the nicest of bloggers, you will see them showing like

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being at different events. It's just the reality of being
on reality television show.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
We had up an Adam at our party in Vegas
for Bravo Khan and you were not happy about for
the love.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
For the love that I have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's my first time saying it this episode, but for
the love bless his heart.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
But let me ask you a question, why do they
care so much if she drove by Gent's house, It
wasn't like they were driven by her house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I think because the amount of times that they were
tagged in this information. And I think what's really pissing
them off is if Monica is saying it here on
the reunion. I'm sure she's probably set it to them
on camera and they haven't shown it until now, like
in the reunion but production knowing that she was reality Vontee.
I don't know if this is true or not true,
but that's what Monica said at this reunion production New

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I do think.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
That Heather explaining to everybody, are explaining to Andy why
they care so much, why she went after Jenshaw and
all that is. Heather was saying, like, I'm just trying
to show you guys her character and this is her character,
and that's what bothers me. I don't want to film
with somebody that has the potential to do all this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
But why can Heather lie but Monica can't?

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Well, that's the million dollar question. Not only can she lie,
but she involved production and I know some of the
people that are involved in that, and there was an
internal investigation done in blaming it on producers where they
could potentially get fired.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
And she's saying it's a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
When she's saying it to the press, she's like, it's
the big scheme of the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
It could be production. Well, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I didn't like she apologized for it, but blaming the
black guy in innocent crew members. I mean, like I said,
there was an investigation started and people could have lost
their jobs, and that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
But I also think the flashback video didn't really tell
us anything because it appears to me, even though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Did you see her face when they when she said
that we have a video of it, and she's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Like, but then she narrates it, but jen Shaw appears.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
To be like laughing and having fun in that video.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I feel like that there's something that she's not wanting
to share.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
And it's ours that jen Shaw got mad at me
and punched me in the face.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
It's something else. But finally Andy asked the right question,
does the grace you're asking for should be the same
grace given to Monica. Like she's asking for forgiveness for
lying and getting innocent crew member members in trouble and
going on book tours and blaming other people. But Monica's lying, cheating,

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doing things and getting people hurting people.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Which one's worse. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I think when we have Angie at the live show,
we need to have a real conversation with her about
is she going to forgive Monica, because if we really
look at it, of the people sitting there, no, Angie
was the one affected most by the things that Monica said.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
For sure. Her and I can't wait now that the
reunion's over, like nothing's off limits. We can talk to
her about anything at the live show, So that's going
to be really good. I wonder if she has any
insight to the Black Eye anything that or she'll I
don't even know, she'll tell us, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I don't know, But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
But it's just it's it's frustrating, like I understand like
how they're made to She's very good with her words
and when like I said, when Andy asked, like why
is this such a big deal, and she's like, I'm
just trying to show you her character.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
What about this line?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I can't, Andy asked Heather, what would you say to
Genshaw today?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
I'm no longer your bit, bitch, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
I regret believing in you fighting your fight, disrespecting my
I'm sorry of all the things she was gonna say,
Like I thought she was gonna say something profound in
this moment or something like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Harp, I'm no longer your bitch. That's the best you
would come up with.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Well, isn't she admitting that she was doing Does that
mean she was doing work?

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Just just like Monica. So why can't these people this
cast just degree like they were both taken by this
Genshaw for some strange reason I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
But also why at this point we're gonna have to
figure things out, not we, but they, because we are
still talking about gen Shaw as much as anybody else
on that couch.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
And I bet we're gonna see this in Genshaw's Instagram
story posts in about three two one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Pull it up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I'm sure it's out now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
But they keep trying to equate Monica to Ginshaw.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
But I just like Heather was her best friends, and
Heather covered for her, and like, here's the thing, if
you were to punch me in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Let's just say that's what happened, if you were to
punch me in the face, and then I kept that
a secret from everybody else that we were friends with,
and I put them in a situation of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Actual physical harm to me. That's worse for sure. Like
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Then, That's what I'm saying, is it just doesn't make
any sense to me. It's not making any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Andy asked, they're warm and fuzzy and they're cold and
prickly from the season. Angie says Greek Easter was her fuzzy.
I liked Greek Easter too, and her prickly was the rumors.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Lisa says she loved the dynamic change better with Meredith
all in a good place and seeing Jack's growth. Her
prickly is the way they left Bermuda.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Whitney says, her fuzzy is that she is stronger. Her
prickly is being let down by Monica.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Were they close? I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
I don't get it either. Meredith says her warm and
fuzzy was churning better, her prickly was having an off
camera conversation. Is she referring to the conversation she had
with with Monica.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Monica, Yeah about it, Angie allegedly being.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
In the mob the churning better. Andy wasn't having it,
and neither am I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Then Heather's fuzzy was Greek Easter and the book of course,
the book event since I've changed her relationship with Lisa.
Her prickly was reality Vontie in Bermuda.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Monica says her fuzzy and her prickly was Bermuda. In
her prickly is Bermuda. This is the same thing in
this line.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
No, that's what I'm saying. There's a typo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
The first one should be fuzzy and the second one
should be prickly like her.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
But she said the same thing. She said Bermuda.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
She said Bermuda for both. Yeah, okay, so her fuzzy,
fuzzy and prickly, we're both Memuda.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Yeah, which I would?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I mean, I would bring Monica back with a therapist
and an argument writer who can help.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
There is a therapist now on the shows.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Yeah, so let's go. But I do I think that they.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Could bring everybody back, including Monica. If the girls don't
want to film with Monica then they can quit. I
don't know. I just that's how I feel. I have
a strange suspicion that Monica will not be back, and
that makes me a little bit sad because, like Heather said,
it was their best season yet. And I wanted Annie
to say, don't you think Monica deserves some credit?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Call me a trampoline with eyes as much as you want,
because according to Monica, it's a compliment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
But that's the end of something.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
No, it's not according to Monica's according to Angie.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Angie said, oh yes, sir, and it was Angie.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Angie said it was a compliment. I'm like, yeah, I
don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I love it when people call me a trampoline with eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
When people call me a tramp.

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