February 23, 2023 • 34 mins
It’s the juiciest Twots episode ever!
Jacqueline Laurita does not hold back!
We’re talking Teresa, Melissa, Dina, Caroline, Danielle, Luis, both Joe’s and SO much more…
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancan's and cambradge Edge. Hello, guys,
welcome to two Teas in a Pod with myself and Judge.
And today we have one of my old friends, Jacqueline
from Jersey. Jacqueline was on from two thousand and nine
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to two thousand and fourteen, and she departed the series
in two thousand and fourteen. However, she married appearances throughout
the season before returning season seven. Right, she's been all
over the press recently because she had a five hour
lunch with Teresa sa and so do you know any
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of them? When we got history, I did some research,
so now I do. Okay, God, can we can we
like give her an official grilling about what about what
went down at the lunch? Well, I want to know
about what went down at the lunch. I want to
know all about the Melissa stuff because she posted about
that on social media. Um, I want to know if
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she thinks she's responsible for any of the things that
went down with the law now she's not responsible. Well
that's the whole part of the season. I know. I
know if you think she was, that Teresa would be
hanging out with her again. Well, she hanged out, She
hanged out, hang out, she hanged out with her ex
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husband after. I used to love Jersey when it was
all family back then. Yeah, I love any time it's
all family. Um, so you understand Caroline Manzo's brother is
Jacqueline's husband husband, right, yeah, okay, okay, I got all that.
I got all that juice. I also know that she
was the first housewife to not go to her union
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right and then and then still be on the show.
And then Dina, who lives around the corner for me,
is her sister in law who Dina was supposed to
be in Teresa's wedding. That's what we need to find out.
Dina was supposed to be in Teresa's wedding and ended
up not being in her wedding. All right, we've got
we've got a lot, we've got a lot. But the
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Tresia has said publicly that there's no issue between her
and Dina. Okay, let's bring are in. How are you
my friends? Good? Good? So Jacqueline I just got a
lot on Instagram because she's moving to the o C.
Why hoefully you know are close about this way? How
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long have you guys been in Vegas now four years
what what was it his Chris's job. Yeah, so Chris,
Chris's brother. He was out of it. He was always
in the garment industry since he was like seventeen years old.
He was out of it for a few years. He
was trying other adventures or whatever, other ventures. Then he
had an opportunity to get back into the garment industry
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in a big way, and he didn't want to pass
the opportunity. Rother lives here in Vegas, who he's partners with,
and so he took the job here because he has
other partners in California. So he kind of goes between here, California,
and New York all the time. So didn't you used
to live in Vegas? I did. Used to live in Vegas,
and this is why I wanted to come here. So
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we could have moved to California back then, but because
I had My parents are like twenty minutes from me,
my other brothers about twenty five minutes from me, my
other brothers twenty minutes from me. My cousins are like
five minutes from me. I'm like, we're moving to Vegas.
Is that gonna be hard? It's gonna be hard. To
move out to Vegas since you have so much family,
so hard, so hard to leave here because I see
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my parents, like my family every weekend they're over. Now,
do you do you prefer Vegas over New Jersey? Yeah?
I do. I do. Well, I'm currently in Vegas right now,
and I'm curious, what do you Yeah, that's this this
background here is at the Lovely Delano Hotel or I
haven't been there yet, m But my question is do
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you think who do you think has better style? Vegas
or Jersey? God, that's a hard one because it's very different.
You know what, Well, if you're talking about the show,
everyone has a bad taste and the well, like New
York City, it's it's you know, people are dressing in
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layers and boots and all the you know, in Vegas,
I literally live in like my workout where leggy, Like
I'm very much living here. Yeah then you'll fit right
but you'll fit right in yeah yeah great, because yeah,
I'm more like sporty, spice like that's how I like
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to dress, you know, or like a comfort where then
you know, and I don't even think I've worn heels
since fourteen quarantine. I don't know. I wore them last night.
Now I have fifty two blisters everywhere around. I was
like this, this life is not meant for me. Oh
my god. If you're moving to OC would you ever
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I know a lot of people's asses, but would you
ever consider going on Orange County even as just like
a friend of or in any capacity? And do you
think you'd eat those girls alive? Yeah? No, I wouldn't
do it, just because I'm at a different stage in
my life. And um, I know what the show brings.
It's like, you know, it causes problems with like families
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and friends and businesses, and it just causes a lot
of toxicity in your life, a lot of pressures, you know,
And um, I'm at a different place in my life.
I told Tamra before I said I would, I would
go to like a party, be blurred out and have
a few shots in the background, and like kind of
watch it. You're not You're not gonna be blurred out
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and you're coming to a party. You'd have to sign
the release, get paid. I will send you the release shortly. Yeah,
Teresa recently said on Watch What Happens Live, But you
guys reconnected because you both have kids named Nicholas. I
had to laugh at this because I was like, hold on,
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I don't know that. I'm always like, you know what,
this person is going to be my best friend? Yeah,
you know what it is? I think that. Um. So
I've always kind of talked on my own page about
cast members. When people ask me questions, I'm very open
and I'll talk shit like on my own podcast, on
my own page or whatever, and I'll say stuff, but
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not it doesn't always get picked up. But what I
said about Melissa I got picked up and kind of
what is the name of your podcast so people know?
I know, I don't have any I stopped doing it
during quarantine because it was just too hard with Nicholas
home that I couldn't do it. It was just it'd
be too many interruptions and just our listeners. Know. What
Jacqueline said about Melissa was that she was a liar
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and manipulative and looking back, she would have handled things
different So what would you have handled differently? Me? Yeah, well,
I just overall I would have handled things differently, I think, um,
I allowed And this is one thing when I said
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about Melissa, I mean, obviously Teresa and I had her
own ship that was going on, but Melissa was in
my head a lot, telling me a lot of things
that Teresa would say and do. I felt sorry for
them because they really played the victim card really well
with you know, how Teresa treated them, and then you know,
with Teresa being mad. I would see like different things
and it just kind of turned me off. But Melissa
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really flipped on me really bad. She was behind the
scenes feeding me all kinds of information about Teresa, her
legal stuff, like literally everything. They were never friends on camera.
It was always just for show, for the show, and yeah,
off camera, they weren't friends. I respected that they were
trying to keep the piece on camera. That wasn't the issue,
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Like I always respected that, and I even told her
to fake it till you make it on camera. But
she turned on me like it was really bizarre. So
the producers were pushing me to be friendly with Teresa again,
and they were really trying to push that reunion, and
Melissa just kept reminding me how much Teresa hated me.
Things she would say blah blah blah. So I knew
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it wasn't like it wasn't sincere with Teresa, So I
you know, I'm like, hey, listen. There's just so much
the story I can't even tell you guys all, But
so what came down to you? Like stay right before
we went to vermind Melissa, I was on a shooting
thing with Teresa, Joe Dolores and her new date. It
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never aired, but we all filmed a dinner together. Melissa
kept calling me, calling me, call me. I want to
know because I always told her what we filmed. I'm
always like one of those cast members who give my
cast members a heads up, like what we like, Well,
your part, not everybody on the cast, just certain people,
certain people. Yeah, so you know, um, she wanted to know,
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like what we filmed, but we had stopped filming. We
stayed out late that night and we just had the
best time like belly laughs, like it was it felt
sincere and real with Theresa that night, And I'm like, no,
we actually got along. So when I told Melissa that,
I said, you know, she kept saying like, well, would
you guys film you know what happened? I'm like, it
went great. I go. We stayed long after filming. We
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were laughing our asses off, we had a great time.
She's like, really, you know, she got like all like
weird about it, and she didn't want you to be friends.
She went and he did not want me to make
up with traits she was, so she acted all jealous
and then was like she remember she hates you, Jacqueline,
And I'm like, well, I she probably does, but you
know what, I'd rather have her fake in on camera
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and us get along and have good filming than me
fighting with her, So I don't really care. And then
literally right after that, when we went to Vermont, Lisa's
whole tone changed with me. And even when that one
girl came after me on the show, um, I had like,
you know, she was saying she wanted to rage on
my ass. I gave her my ass to see what
she would do with it. I was telling Melissa about
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I was telling Melissa about it, and she was like
looking at me on camera like, oh my god, like
why would you do that? And then and then and
normally she would back me up and be like, I've
had people do that to me on the show. Oh
we all. Yeah, it's hard when it's your actual clothes. Yeah,
you believe they are. They asked you to say something
or bring something up, and then when you bring it up,
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they're like, oh my god, I had no idea. Yes,
that's the worst, and that is the worst. This is
all the time. Yeah, but this is my question because
now even bringing it flashing forward to what's going on
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this season, watching it, I saw times wonder because there
was that scene between the new girl, Danielle talking about
how she blames her flawed relationship with her brother due
to his wife. Do you really think that the main
issues involving Joe and Teresa and Melissa stem from Melissa
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and Teresa or do you think it's Joe. I think
it's both of them. But if you know what what, well,
I do think Melissa pulls a lot. Yeah, it puts
a lot in his head for sure, because they used
to be very, very close. But Joe, to be honest,
Joe and Melissa both talk shit about Teresa to us
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and fed us information about Teresa. But Joe was just
as much in that as Melissa. But Melissa, I think
was I think where her anger came from was that,
you know, she always wanted to be famous, and Teresa
was on the show that was really popular, and Teresa
wasn't including them in the you know, the filming of
the show, and they were kind of insulted by that,
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like where your family? Weren't you bringing us around? Why
aren't you bringing up Can you clear it up for us?
How did Melissa get on the show? And did Theresa
know she was coming on the show? Okay, so this
is what happened with the show. This is like now
that I know more from talking to Carlos and so
now I know the whole story. So basically I didn't
know this, but Melissa had been damning the producers trying
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to get on the show. She went behind their back.
She was dmning the producer and he told me she
was trying to get on the show. She was also
dming the whole season two. I think it was she
was messaging Danielle's stab, telling Danielle's song. Remember at the
reunion when she said you didn't go to your son's
you didn't go see your nephew when he was born
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or whatever that came from Melissa. So Melissa was feeding.
And Melissa ended up telling me later on that she
did talk to Danielle and she goes and she wanted
me to film with her, but I wouldn't film with
her because I was pregnant at the time and I
didn't want my debut to be me pregnant coming on
the show, you know, like that. She tried, so she didn't.
She tried and tried and tried. He was trying through Danielle,
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the producers, everyone to get on the show. But also
whenever we would film, so Melissa was in like Teresa's
housewarming party on camera. Um, she was at her daughter's christening,
she was at a couple other things that she was
always there in the background. But we would be Mike
and Teresa would say, don't talk to Melissa on camera
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because she just wants her face on camera, like, don't
film with her, like, don't talk. But so that's why
I have an issue because it's obvious. Then they both
talk shit about each other. They're both they're both talking
about it. Yeah, because Melissa was trying to get on
the show. Teresa didn't want her on the show because
she saw what it did to our family. So she
didn't want her family. And well that's what she used
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to say. She used to say that she didn't want
on the show because then it's competitive against your own
personal family. I mean, get it, I get it. I
would never ever, I I never want my family on
the show, mainly because she knows all my shit right,
and you never know, and though siblins can turn on you,
that's true. But she at the time she acted like,
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you know, I don't want to go on camera and
start fighting with my family, you know, because they were
you know, on and off. Well she came back at
the beginning. You guys were all family. I feel like
you guys were all related somehow, and all it was
it was just family fighting. It was family fighting. Well
she she would say this way, she was Mike right.
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So the producers are like, who's Melissa? Where is she?
Who's the girl you don't want on camera? And then
they saw them fighting on Facebook over sprinkle cookies or
whatever the hell it was. Plus she was damming them
and trying to get on through Danielle and whatever, and
then that's how they ended up getting her on. She
worked her magic and she got on. She got She's like,
I don't bring me out, I'm getting on myself. So
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Teresa didn't even want to film and she knew, okay,
so she found out a week before that they were
filmed that they were coming on the show. So it
was a night before the christening Teresa hadn't signed her
contract yet, and she's like, I'm not signing this contract.
I'm not going to film with them. I'm not I'm
not going to do it. I said, Teresa, you're gonna
go to the christing tomorrow with them, Mike, with a
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camera crew all around them on your show that you started,
and you put on the map, and you're gonna let
them take over your show and you're just gonna watch
like you're not going to be part of the show.
And then one of the producers called her Carlos and
then talked her into doing the show. And then she
went the next day. In her head, she was just
going to go there and not bring the fighting on camera.
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She was just going to pretend like everything was fine.
But wasn't that the big fight they fight? Right? So
basically they have never gotten along. This is not new.
They did not get along a priar to the they
did have they got along, but because they were still
invited to all her family things and stuff like that,
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they would still you know, they were at all the
family functioned on a brave face, but the second you
involve money and fame into it, it's a fair right, Yeah,
I think she didn't want to, you know. And and
then so when she was trying to pretend like everything
was good, they called her out on camera like, oh,
now you're acting like things are fine, you know, because
we're on. You know. But if they came on with
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the intentions not to take down Theresa, they would have
played along with that and acted like everything was fine
on camera, but instead they called her out, So now
are you? Teresa also didn't want them on, So they're
both doing the like are you and Teresa good? Now?
Are you talking even in touch? We are actually and
it and it really doesn't have to. When we sat down,
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I know everyone thinks we sat there and talked about Melissa.
I kind of brought it up a little bit. She
we didn't talk about it. She just said I'm done
with them. She's like, I'm not engaging in them anymore.
I'm not going to get into it with them anymore.
I am done with them. And that's it. I know
who called involved? She call you or you call her?
They called me and you so do you see her
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name on your phone? And you're like, what the what
do you do? You do you panic? Do you like?
It was a text message and it was like, Hi,
Louie and I are going to be in town on February,
you know this date through this date, and do you
want to meet for coffee if you want to bring Chris,
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Louie's gonna be there, and and I was just like
what I was like what I was like, last do
you talk to her? Or the last I was saying
is she said you were responsible for her going to jail. Yeah,
so it's like, did you guys talk about that? We
did not talk about any Like literally I showed my husband.
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My husband's like, I think you should meet with her.
You know, it's been a long time. I think he
should sit down with her and whatever. So we agreed
to meet with him. She didn't want to talk about
anything from the past. Like I kind of tried to
like discuss some of it. I was like kind of
you know, and she was just like, I don't care
about any of that. Like it was at a time
where you know, we both kind of agreed. It was
at a time where we were both very stressed in
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our life. We had a lot of pressures from filming.
You've got producers in your air people and your air
fans saying this to that and there's so much toxicity
around it. You don't know who to trust. You can't
maintain a friendship on a show like that. It's very
very differendships, very difficult. Yeah. So so now that I'm
away from it and I have no involvement in it,
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it's easier to maintain a friendship after that, because we
were friends for seven years before the show we even started,
you know, and now you guys, she had said that.
So we didn't talk about Melissa. We did not talk
about her, like, didn't we talk Did you talk about
the fact that you potentially have PTSD from Porsche fashion shows?
The podcasts? No? Oh my god, those were so crazy.
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I take it you haven't been to a posh fashion
show in yours. I haven't in a lot of time.
I keep in touching Kim D and I we'll talk
like every six months or so, we'll like check in
how you're doing, you know. But what were your thoughts
on Louis? Oh? Yeah, I okay. So I had heard
things about him before, and hold on before like from
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the show or before from people in Jersey, from people
in Jersey telling me back because I wouldn't watch the show,
like since when I left the show. I didn't watch
the seasons. I would watch the reunions to kind of
get a feel for what happened during the season. Or
if someone said, oh, you need to watch this episode
because this happened, I would watch that. But I didn't
really watch the show this season. I'm watching it. I'm
watching this season because there's new people. It's just I
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want to see, like plus with everything that happened, I
want to see it. So well, what did you think
about him in person? I loved him. I'm not even kidding.
I was shocked. I didn't know how I was going
to feel about him because of whatever. But I'm the
type of person I will never judge someone until I
meet them myself. Stuff I listen, but I won't judge
someone until I met them myself and get a feeling
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for them. I mean, you know, it's the first meeting.
What do you know? You know? He was so nice? Positive? Positive? Right,
he was very positive. He was very like Teresa's been
wanting to reach out to you for months, Like she
she talks about it all the time, like um, when
she says we have two Nicholases, what she means is
his son has autism. And his name is Nicholas, right,
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and my son has autism in his name is Nicholas
because he's good. Hold thirteen. You were pregnant on the show, right, Yeah? Wow,
I was pregnant. I got pregnant during the off season
of it. And I'm not mistaken. Didn't you have struggles
getting pregnant? Yeah? I had trouble getting pregnant. We didn't
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do everyone thought we did IBF. I did go see
a doctor, fertility doctor. But coming back to me, I
remember this, yeah, yeah, yeah, so um yeah, So she
related to me now that she has his son, you know,
she it made her think about me all the time
because I would imagine so she would constantly like think
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of that and kind of what I had to go
through and what she's kind of, you know, similar things
that they're similar in ways, and so that made her
think of me. And then when she saw I spoke
out about Melissa, she was like she knew she was
coming to Vegas. She didn't come to Vegas just to
see me. She was coming out here to see Bruno
Mars with Heidie Demilio and her husband, and that they
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were gonna go see Bruno Mars. So she's coming to Vegas.
She's like, maybe she'll respond to me if I reached out,
because you know, it made it put me on her
mind seeing all this stuff in the press about me
and Terisa. I just reminded me, hold on, we need
to know really quick. Why was Dina not in the wedding.
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She didn't want to be on camera. She didn't want
to film. They're totally fine, they're totally friends. Everything's fine.
She doesn't want to go. Why haven't seen them in
any pictures recently? They were and non stop pictures together.
They go on they go on vacation together. They vacationed
a few things together. Because she lives in Califora's around
the corner for me. Yeah, and Teresa lives in New Jersey.
So when they get together, when she goes to California,
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they get together, and then you know they they vacationed
a couple of times together. But they But you think
we're going to see every part of the wedding, Like
you can still go to a wedding and not be
like I've said, I won't film something. They didn't want
to be around the cast because she doesn't care for Dolores.
I don't think I got a question on my Instagram
and I'm not sure what it's about. How do you
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feel about what Ashley said after you met up with Teresa?
What did Ashley say? Congrats? Oh that's it. Yeah, I
thought it was a smoking gun there. Well, because Ashley
Ashley was like to me, she was like, you guys
have been through a lot of shit, and she's like,
if you guys made up, She's like, just you know,
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be careful. So now that you've made up with Teresa,
but she's like, good for you. Now that you've made
up with Teresa. Do you think that you and Dina
will make up or there's hope. I've I've always been
open to that and we've the last few times we've talked,
it's because of like something bad had happened in the
family or whatever. Um, it was very civil, and my
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husband's been to California a few times, has dinner with her,
he stated, at her house. One time, she's come out
here for an event I couldn't go. I was actually
invited to the event. I couldn't go because I didn't
have a sitter for next But it's cordial and if
I saw her, it would be cordial. We used to
be super close, and I don't know if we could
get back to that place because you know, I'm I'm
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people that I've had a history with, that I've been
close with. I'm always open to to, you know, hearing
people out and being fine because it got ugly, you
know after a while, and she's family to me. She
was like a little sister to me, you know. And well,
speaking of getting ugly, um, did you know one one
was last time you spoke to Danielle's stab? And two
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when did you ever see the emails? Wait? Which oh,
between Melissa and Danielle. No, she wouldn't tell me. She
wouldn't show me. I asked her to show me. She
wouldn't show me. Melissa, she was just like, I don't
want you know, but Danielle. I last place I saw
and talked to Danielle was that season two reunion when
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she hugged me. Okay. Then I had gone to do
press and someone at the press outlet said, you know,
Danielle's trying to put out stories about you. She's trying
to sell the story about you. And I'm like, what
I thought, Like we squashed things and why is she
doing that? Then this one girl turned on her on
Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was at the time,
I don't remember, and started sending me all the private
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dms where she was telling this girl to attack me
on social media, that she was putting an article out
about me, laughing about it, and then she was telling
lies to this person about my daughter that weren't even true.
And then I was like, this is a danger a
person because she's putting out all these lies and spreading
them like they're truth and they're not truth. And it
was to me that, to me, is a dangerous person,
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and that's someone I would never wint in my life. Like, So,
if you had to have lunch with one person, would
you choose Danielle stob or Melissa Gorga neither? This is
like a it's pick or die. Oh, pick or die?
Oh next, it's the worst one, maybe, Okay? If I
have to pick, yeah, and I really don't want either
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of them, Melissa, then I slapper don't But Danielle would.
I feel like Danielle is like she's toxic, Like her
tiktoks or whatever they are make me feel, I don't
see them. But she's a dangerous person because she makes
up lies about people and then spread something like they're
true and then it gets picked up and it's getting
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gets wings and they're not true. And that's, to me,
is a dangerous person. I get it. If you're fighting
with me and you want to come at me and
say something to hurt me, the do it. You know,
I'll come back at you whatever, But don't make up
stuff like I don't fight. Like who do you talk
to and Jersey? Now? Who on the current in Jersey?
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Once in a great while? The loris Um, Kathy Achiely
kim d Caroline. What do you think about Melissa saying
that Caroline was too old and boring to come back
to Jersey? Wait? Melissa always he used to always say
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that she wasn't boring an ultimate girl's trips all over
the process? Right? Have you talked to her about that
at all? I did talk to her. She didn't tell
me that much because it had just happened and it
was really traumatic for her. Whatever happened was very traumatic.
Were you there? No? Oh? Thank god? I forget who
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was on there? She said, it was just very traumatic.
She's trying to process it all. She can't talk about
it right now because it was under you know, investigation
or whatever was happening, and it was just nothing she
could ever imagine, and it was bad, and I just
kind of let it go. At that point, I didn't
dig anymore because I could tell it was bothering her,
so I didn't even I'm just waiting. So here's the thing.
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I always said, like, could I handle a week away
on a girl's trip. I could handle the drama for
a week or whatever. But I could never do it
because I don't have someone like that that can watch
Nicholas for a full week for me to do something
like that. I don't have Like Nicholas escapes, he's he's
too big for my mom um CJ. I don't know
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if he would feed him correctly, what would happen? No,
I don't know. I don't know if you could handle
him for a week. And my husband works, so you know,
my husband could watch him in the evenings. But as
of right now, I don't have someone that could watch
Nicholas for me to go on the girls. It would
be more stress added to your family life, for sure. Yeah.
So how's how's Ashley? Um? She's good, good, she's good,
(28:01):
she's um. You know, she found out you know she
got diagnosed with them bipolar. I didn't know that she's
been dealing. Yeah, so she's been dealing a lot with that,
which explains like a lot of things you know, she
was feeling and going through. She okay, yeah, yeah, now
she's you know, she's she's very open about it. She
talks about it on our social media, like her kind
(28:23):
of steps in, you know, helping herself, and she's doing good.
She's a great mommy to her son, Cameron, my grandson,
and he calls me Glamor, kisses Glamor, he calls me kids. Yeah.
Speaking of resources, I got a message asking from a
fan best resource for parents with children diagnosed with autism?
(28:44):
Is there any advice that you can guess resource you
know who gives a lot of great resources as Taka
Taca on it if you go on their website. They
she's very detailed and has tons of resources on her
on her website and like leads parents through beginning to
the end, and she's really good with us. I would
look on yeah, I would look on there for the start.
(29:07):
I mean, there's so many but okay, we've got to
do three final rapid fire questions to close us out.
First one, is there hope for Melissa and Teresa? And
do you think the show needs both? I don't think
the show needs both, And I don't think there's hope
because there's so much damage that's been done in a
(29:28):
lot of trust. It would have to be like years
after both of them are off the show and maybe
find their way back to each other. But as long
as they're both on the show together, they're never gonna
be like fully d I think if one of them
does get let go, it's and I's gonna be worse
between the two of them. Yeah, I agree, I worked
them both on the well Teresa and Louie last um,
(29:52):
I mean it any relationship she's pausing and at any
time no, but because I'm like if I'm asking honestly,
looking at them right now, I don't see them ever,
they're so in love, Like you can see it the
way he looks at her, he laughs and everything she said,
like you could tell he's so in love and she's
so madly in love with him. I could never see
it now, But I mean I was like that with
(30:13):
my first husband and we ended up to right. You
never know. So I have a quick question for you,
what do you think about the two Joe's meeting up
in the Bahamas? Oh, well, Teresa knew about it ahead
of time because she knew about because there was a
friend of hers on the same plane as Joe and
Melissa going to the Bahamas. And so Teresa was like,
(30:37):
if you see them, you need to be nice to
him because I don't want there to be a problem
with you guys and there to be a fight because
if they you know, if Joe gets into trouble, it's
like not good. So she's like, if you see them,
just be nice with that. Videos that videos set up
staged it. Well, Joe, I think Joe thinks it was.
I mean they literally were together three minutes. Well, I
(30:58):
saw that Joe, uh Gorga posted the video, but the
other two did not post it right because it was
literally three minutes long as clearly. Yeah, I mean it
was just like corny. Do you think it was a
kind of a stick it to Melissa, I'm sorry, a
stick it to Teresa video. Oh, I'm sure of course.
(31:19):
It was like a tip for tat Yeah. And then
final question just because this was they're also wait, they're
also trying to get a hold of Kim D to
make up with Kim D. They're like, we like Kim D.
Like yeah, um, how do you think, Like what is
the trick to keeping your marriage last through all these
years of drama and craziness? A sense of humor? I
(31:44):
love that. It's a sense of humor. When you say
a sense of humor and sex, yeah, you know what,
that's pretty much true sense of humor because you can
when they're like your best friend and you can go
through like you can have a shitty day and be
mad or whatever. But then like if they like, when
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I get in a mood, it's hard to get me
out of it, and he knows how to pull me
out of that mood by you know, making a joke
or whatever. Like he knows me, and he gets me,
and I get him, and I know like when we
both need to be like you know yeah, And it's
really a sense of humor. I think we have a
good sense of humor with each other. And I think
that really God helps. We talked a lot about the show,
(32:27):
but personally, like what's going on in your life right now?
Like what's your day to day? My day to day
now is homeschooling. Nicholas I had to pull him from
the school system here he was having a lot of
anxiety and everything. So now I homeschool him. I mean,
since the show, I got some certifications. I went to
(32:48):
I got a certified as a health coach to the
Institute of Integrated Nutrition. I went to the Integrated Medicine
Academy online for Autism Master three, Functional Medicine, Toxicity, and Hormones.
And I was using that to like help other families.
But now I'm kind of retired because it's just a
(33:09):
lot with Nicholas to be home with them all day
and doing that, and so now I just have time
on my well. I know how busy you are with Nicholas,
but we thank you so much for taking the time
to be with us today. And we're super excited about
this interview. And if you ever want to come on
to recap Tamara when she's on Orange County, hit us up.
But I have to tell you, Tarma, I am now
(33:31):
power watching all of the Housewives of Orange County because
I'm trying to see, like where you guys shop and
eat and you know that smart yeah, and a lot
of places aren't even there. I was gonna say a
lot of them been closed down, So her clothes I'll take,
but I'm like, I'll take your shop and just go
to the Quiet Woman and boyfriend. Go, oh my god,
(33:54):
I got to Shannon. I'm on season eight. Oh oh
my gosh. Well, we thank you so much for joining us.
You are so much fun. Thank you for dealing with
all of our crazy questions. And I hope that I
can give you one day so and we'll have lunch.
So when I come to those seed you guys are
having drinks. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Jacqueline. Bye,
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancan's and cambradge Edge. Hello, guys,
welcome to two Teas in a Pod with myself and Judge.
And today we have one of my old friends, Jacqueline
from Jersey. Jacqueline was on from two thousand and nine
(00:27):
to two thousand and fourteen, and she departed the series
in two thousand and fourteen. However, she married appearances throughout
the season before returning season seven. Right, she's been all
over the press recently because she had a five hour
lunch with Teresa sa and so do you know any
(00:47):
of them? When we got history, I did some research,
so now I do. Okay, God, can we can we
like give her an official grilling about what about what
went down at the lunch? Well, I want to know
about what went down at the lunch. I want to
know all about the Melissa stuff because she posted about
that on social media. Um, I want to know if
(01:08):
she thinks she's responsible for any of the things that
went down with the law now she's not responsible. Well
that's the whole part of the season. I know. I
know if you think she was, that Teresa would be
hanging out with her again. Well, she hanged out, She
hanged out, hang out, she hanged out with her ex
(01:30):
husband after. I used to love Jersey when it was
all family back then. Yeah, I love any time it's
all family. Um, so you understand Caroline Manzo's brother is
Jacqueline's husband husband, right, yeah, okay, okay, I got all that.
I got all that juice. I also know that she
was the first housewife to not go to her union
(01:54):
right and then and then still be on the show.
And then Dina, who lives around the corner for me,
is her sister in law who Dina was supposed to
be in Teresa's wedding. That's what we need to find out.
Dina was supposed to be in Teresa's wedding and ended
up not being in her wedding. All right, we've got
we've got a lot, we've got a lot. But the
(02:14):
Tresia has said publicly that there's no issue between her
and Dina. Okay, let's bring are in. How are you
my friends? Good? Good? So Jacqueline I just got a
lot on Instagram because she's moving to the o C.
Why hoefully you know are close about this way? How
(02:36):
long have you guys been in Vegas now four years
what what was it his Chris's job. Yeah, so Chris,
Chris's brother. He was out of it. He was always
in the garment industry since he was like seventeen years old.
He was out of it for a few years. He
was trying other adventures or whatever, other ventures. Then he
had an opportunity to get back into the garment industry
(02:56):
in a big way, and he didn't want to pass
the opportunity. Rother lives here in Vegas, who he's partners with,
and so he took the job here because he has
other partners in California. So he kind of goes between here, California,
and New York all the time. So didn't you used
to live in Vegas? I did. Used to live in Vegas,
and this is why I wanted to come here. So
(03:18):
we could have moved to California back then, but because
I had My parents are like twenty minutes from me,
my other brothers about twenty five minutes from me, my
other brothers twenty minutes from me. My cousins are like
five minutes from me. I'm like, we're moving to Vegas.
Is that gonna be hard? It's gonna be hard. To
move out to Vegas since you have so much family,
so hard, so hard to leave here because I see
(03:38):
my parents, like my family every weekend they're over. Now,
do you do you prefer Vegas over New Jersey? Yeah?
I do. I do. Well, I'm currently in Vegas right now,
and I'm curious, what do you Yeah, that's this this
background here is at the Lovely Delano Hotel or I
haven't been there yet, m But my question is do
(04:01):
you think who do you think has better style? Vegas
or Jersey? God, that's a hard one because it's very different.
You know what, Well, if you're talking about the show,
everyone has a bad taste and the well, like New
York City, it's it's you know, people are dressing in
(04:23):
layers and boots and all the you know, in Vegas,
I literally live in like my workout where leggy, Like
I'm very much living here. Yeah then you'll fit right
but you'll fit right in yeah yeah great, because yeah,
I'm more like sporty, spice like that's how I like
(04:45):
to dress, you know, or like a comfort where then
you know, and I don't even think I've worn heels
since fourteen quarantine. I don't know. I wore them last night.
Now I have fifty two blisters everywhere around. I was
like this, this life is not meant for me. Oh
my god. If you're moving to OC would you ever
(05:06):
I know a lot of people's asses, but would you
ever consider going on Orange County even as just like
a friend of or in any capacity? And do you
think you'd eat those girls alive? Yeah? No, I wouldn't
do it, just because I'm at a different stage in
my life. And um, I know what the show brings.
It's like, you know, it causes problems with like families
(05:29):
and friends and businesses, and it just causes a lot
of toxicity in your life, a lot of pressures, you know,
And um, I'm at a different place in my life.
I told Tamra before I said I would, I would
go to like a party, be blurred out and have
a few shots in the background, and like kind of
watch it. You're not You're not gonna be blurred out
(05:51):
and you're coming to a party. You'd have to sign
the release, get paid. I will send you the release shortly. Yeah,
Teresa recently said on Watch What Happens Live, But you
guys reconnected because you both have kids named Nicholas. I
had to laugh at this because I was like, hold on,
(06:11):
I don't know that. I'm always like, you know what,
this person is going to be my best friend? Yeah,
you know what it is? I think that. Um. So
I've always kind of talked on my own page about
cast members. When people ask me questions, I'm very open
and I'll talk shit like on my own podcast, on
my own page or whatever, and I'll say stuff, but
(06:32):
not it doesn't always get picked up. But what I
said about Melissa I got picked up and kind of
what is the name of your podcast so people know?
I know, I don't have any I stopped doing it
during quarantine because it was just too hard with Nicholas
home that I couldn't do it. It was just it'd
be too many interruptions and just our listeners. Know. What
Jacqueline said about Melissa was that she was a liar
(06:55):
and manipulative and looking back, she would have handled things
different So what would you have handled differently? Me? Yeah, well,
I just overall I would have handled things differently, I think, um,
I allowed And this is one thing when I said
(07:16):
about Melissa, I mean, obviously Teresa and I had her
own ship that was going on, but Melissa was in
my head a lot, telling me a lot of things
that Teresa would say and do. I felt sorry for
them because they really played the victim card really well
with you know, how Teresa treated them, and then you know,
with Teresa being mad. I would see like different things
and it just kind of turned me off. But Melissa
(07:40):
really flipped on me really bad. She was behind the
scenes feeding me all kinds of information about Teresa, her
legal stuff, like literally everything. They were never friends on camera.
It was always just for show, for the show, and yeah,
off camera, they weren't friends. I respected that they were
trying to keep the piece on camera. That wasn't the issue,
(08:02):
Like I always respected that, and I even told her
to fake it till you make it on camera. But
she turned on me like it was really bizarre. So
the producers were pushing me to be friendly with Teresa again,
and they were really trying to push that reunion, and
Melissa just kept reminding me how much Teresa hated me.
Things she would say blah blah blah. So I knew
(08:23):
it wasn't like it wasn't sincere with Teresa, So I
you know, I'm like, hey, listen. There's just so much
the story I can't even tell you guys all, But
so what came down to you? Like stay right before
we went to vermind Melissa, I was on a shooting
thing with Teresa, Joe Dolores and her new date. It
(08:48):
never aired, but we all filmed a dinner together. Melissa
kept calling me, calling me, call me. I want to
know because I always told her what we filmed. I'm
always like one of those cast members who give my
cast members a heads up, like what we like, Well,
your part, not everybody on the cast, just certain people,
certain people. Yeah, so you know, um, she wanted to know,
(09:10):
like what we filmed, but we had stopped filming. We
stayed out late that night and we just had the
best time like belly laughs, like it was it felt
sincere and real with Theresa that night, And I'm like, no,
we actually got along. So when I told Melissa that,
I said, you know, she kept saying like, well, would
you guys film you know what happened? I'm like, it
went great. I go. We stayed long after filming. We
(09:31):
were laughing our asses off, we had a great time.
She's like, really, you know, she got like all like
weird about it, and she didn't want you to be friends.
She went and he did not want me to make
up with traits she was, so she acted all jealous
and then was like she remember she hates you, Jacqueline,
And I'm like, well, I she probably does, but you
know what, I'd rather have her fake in on camera
(09:51):
and us get along and have good filming than me
fighting with her, So I don't really care. And then
literally right after that, when we went to Vermont, Lisa's
whole tone changed with me. And even when that one
girl came after me on the show, um, I had like,
you know, she was saying she wanted to rage on
my ass. I gave her my ass to see what
she would do with it. I was telling Melissa about
(10:15):
I was telling Melissa about it, and she was like
looking at me on camera like, oh my god, like
why would you do that? And then and then and
normally she would back me up and be like, I've
had people do that to me on the show. Oh
we all. Yeah, it's hard when it's your actual clothes. Yeah,
you believe they are. They asked you to say something
or bring something up, and then when you bring it up,
(10:36):
they're like, oh my god, I had no idea. Yes,
that's the worst, and that is the worst. This is
all the time. Yeah, but this is my question because
now even bringing it flashing forward to what's going on
(10:57):
this season, watching it, I saw times wonder because there
was that scene between the new girl, Danielle talking about
how she blames her flawed relationship with her brother due
to his wife. Do you really think that the main
issues involving Joe and Teresa and Melissa stem from Melissa
(11:17):
and Teresa or do you think it's Joe. I think
it's both of them. But if you know what what, well,
I do think Melissa pulls a lot. Yeah, it puts
a lot in his head for sure, because they used
to be very, very close. But Joe, to be honest,
Joe and Melissa both talk shit about Teresa to us
(11:40):
and fed us information about Teresa. But Joe was just
as much in that as Melissa. But Melissa, I think
was I think where her anger came from was that,
you know, she always wanted to be famous, and Teresa
was on the show that was really popular, and Teresa
wasn't including them in the you know, the filming of
the show, and they were kind of insulted by that,
(12:01):
like where your family? Weren't you bringing us around? Why
aren't you bringing up Can you clear it up for us?
How did Melissa get on the show? And did Theresa
know she was coming on the show? Okay, so this
is what happened with the show. This is like now
that I know more from talking to Carlos and so
now I know the whole story. So basically I didn't
know this, but Melissa had been damning the producers trying
(12:24):
to get on the show. She went behind their back.
She was dmning the producer and he told me she
was trying to get on the show. She was also
dming the whole season two. I think it was she
was messaging Danielle's stab, telling Danielle's song. Remember at the
reunion when she said you didn't go to your son's
you didn't go see your nephew when he was born
(12:45):
or whatever that came from Melissa. So Melissa was feeding.
And Melissa ended up telling me later on that she
did talk to Danielle and she goes and she wanted
me to film with her, but I wouldn't film with
her because I was pregnant at the time and I
didn't want my debut to be me pregnant coming on
the show, you know, like that. She tried, so she didn't.
She tried and tried and tried. He was trying through Danielle,
(13:05):
the producers, everyone to get on the show. But also
whenever we would film, so Melissa was in like Teresa's
housewarming party on camera. Um, she was at her daughter's christening,
she was at a couple other things that she was
always there in the background. But we would be Mike
and Teresa would say, don't talk to Melissa on camera
(13:26):
because she just wants her face on camera, like, don't
film with her, like, don't talk. But so that's why
I have an issue because it's obvious. Then they both
talk shit about each other. They're both they're both talking
about it. Yeah, because Melissa was trying to get on
the show. Teresa didn't want her on the show because
she saw what it did to our family. So she
didn't want her family. And well that's what she used
(13:51):
to say. She used to say that she didn't want
on the show because then it's competitive against your own
personal family. I mean, get it, I get it. I
would never ever, I I never want my family on
the show, mainly because she knows all my shit right,
and you never know, and though siblins can turn on you,
that's true. But she at the time she acted like,
(14:11):
you know, I don't want to go on camera and
start fighting with my family, you know, because they were
you know, on and off. Well she came back at
the beginning. You guys were all family. I feel like
you guys were all related somehow, and all it was
it was just family fighting. It was family fighting. Well
she she would say this way, she was Mike right.
(14:33):
So the producers are like, who's Melissa? Where is she?
Who's the girl you don't want on camera? And then
they saw them fighting on Facebook over sprinkle cookies or
whatever the hell it was. Plus she was damming them
and trying to get on through Danielle and whatever, and
then that's how they ended up getting her on. She
worked her magic and she got on. She got She's like,
I don't bring me out, I'm getting on myself. So
(14:54):
Teresa didn't even want to film and she knew, okay,
so she found out a week before that they were
filmed that they were coming on the show. So it
was a night before the christening Teresa hadn't signed her
contract yet, and she's like, I'm not signing this contract.
I'm not going to film with them. I'm not I'm
not going to do it. I said, Teresa, you're gonna
go to the christing tomorrow with them, Mike, with a
(15:16):
camera crew all around them on your show that you started,
and you put on the map, and you're gonna let
them take over your show and you're just gonna watch
like you're not going to be part of the show.
And then one of the producers called her Carlos and
then talked her into doing the show. And then she
went the next day. In her head, she was just
going to go there and not bring the fighting on camera.
(15:37):
She was just going to pretend like everything was fine.
But wasn't that the big fight they fight? Right? So
basically they have never gotten along. This is not new.
They did not get along a priar to the they
did have they got along, but because they were still
invited to all her family things and stuff like that,
(15:58):
they would still you know, they were at all the
family functioned on a brave face, but the second you
involve money and fame into it, it's a fair right, Yeah,
I think she didn't want to, you know. And and
then so when she was trying to pretend like everything
was good, they called her out on camera like, oh,
now you're acting like things are fine, you know, because
we're on. You know. But if they came on with
(16:18):
the intentions not to take down Theresa, they would have
played along with that and acted like everything was fine
on camera, but instead they called her out, So now
are you? Teresa also didn't want them on, So they're
both doing the like are you and Teresa good? Now?
Are you talking even in touch? We are actually and
it and it really doesn't have to. When we sat down,
(16:41):
I know everyone thinks we sat there and talked about Melissa.
I kind of brought it up a little bit. She
we didn't talk about it. She just said I'm done
with them. She's like, I'm not engaging in them anymore.
I'm not going to get into it with them anymore.
I am done with them. And that's it. I know
who called involved? She call you or you call her?
They called me and you so do you see her
(17:02):
name on your phone? And you're like, what the what
do you do? You do you panic? Do you like?
It was a text message and it was like, Hi,
Louie and I are going to be in town on February,
you know this date through this date, and do you
want to meet for coffee if you want to bring Chris,
(17:24):
Louie's gonna be there, and and I was just like
what I was like what I was like, last do
you talk to her? Or the last I was saying
is she said you were responsible for her going to jail. Yeah,
so it's like, did you guys talk about that? We
did not talk about any Like literally I showed my husband.
(17:45):
My husband's like, I think you should meet with her.
You know, it's been a long time. I think he
should sit down with her and whatever. So we agreed
to meet with him. She didn't want to talk about
anything from the past. Like I kind of tried to
like discuss some of it. I was like kind of
you know, and she was just like, I don't care
about any of that. Like it was at a time
where you know, we both kind of agreed. It was
at a time where we were both very stressed in
(18:06):
our life. We had a lot of pressures from filming.
You've got producers in your air people and your air
fans saying this to that and there's so much toxicity
around it. You don't know who to trust. You can't
maintain a friendship on a show like that. It's very
very differendships, very difficult. Yeah. So so now that I'm
away from it and I have no involvement in it,
(18:27):
it's easier to maintain a friendship after that, because we
were friends for seven years before the show we even started,
you know, and now you guys, she had said that.
So we didn't talk about Melissa. We did not talk
about her, like, didn't we talk Did you talk about
the fact that you potentially have PTSD from Porsche fashion shows?
The podcasts? No? Oh my god, those were so crazy.
(18:53):
I take it you haven't been to a posh fashion
show in yours. I haven't in a lot of time.
I keep in touching Kim D and I we'll talk
like every six months or so, we'll like check in
how you're doing, you know. But what were your thoughts
on Louis? Oh? Yeah, I okay. So I had heard
things about him before, and hold on before like from
(19:14):
the show or before from people in Jersey, from people
in Jersey telling me back because I wouldn't watch the show,
like since when I left the show. I didn't watch
the seasons. I would watch the reunions to kind of
get a feel for what happened during the season. Or
if someone said, oh, you need to watch this episode
because this happened, I would watch that. But I didn't
really watch the show this season. I'm watching it. I'm
watching this season because there's new people. It's just I
(19:37):
want to see, like plus with everything that happened, I
want to see it. So well, what did you think
about him in person? I loved him. I'm not even kidding.
I was shocked. I didn't know how I was going
to feel about him because of whatever. But I'm the
type of person I will never judge someone until I
meet them myself. Stuff I listen, but I won't judge
someone until I met them myself and get a feeling
(19:59):
for them. I mean, you know, it's the first meeting.
What do you know? You know? He was so nice? Positive? Positive? Right,
he was very positive. He was very like Teresa's been
wanting to reach out to you for months, Like she
she talks about it all the time, like um, when
she says we have two Nicholases, what she means is
his son has autism. And his name is Nicholas, right,
(20:19):
and my son has autism in his name is Nicholas
because he's good. Hold thirteen. You were pregnant on the show, right, Yeah? Wow,
I was pregnant. I got pregnant during the off season
of it. And I'm not mistaken. Didn't you have struggles
getting pregnant? Yeah? I had trouble getting pregnant. We didn't
(20:42):
do everyone thought we did IBF. I did go see
a doctor, fertility doctor. But coming back to me, I
remember this, yeah, yeah, yeah, so um yeah, So she
related to me now that she has his son, you know,
she it made her think about me all the time
because I would imagine so she would constantly like think
(21:06):
of that and kind of what I had to go
through and what she's kind of, you know, similar things
that they're similar in ways, and so that made her
think of me. And then when she saw I spoke
out about Melissa, she was like she knew she was
coming to Vegas. She didn't come to Vegas just to
see me. She was coming out here to see Bruno
Mars with Heidie Demilio and her husband, and that they
(21:26):
were gonna go see Bruno Mars. So she's coming to Vegas.
She's like, maybe she'll respond to me if I reached out,
because you know, it made it put me on her
mind seeing all this stuff in the press about me
and Terisa. I just reminded me, hold on, we need
to know really quick. Why was Dina not in the wedding.
(21:51):
She didn't want to be on camera. She didn't want
to film. They're totally fine, they're totally friends. Everything's fine.
She doesn't want to go. Why haven't seen them in
any pictures recently? They were and non stop pictures together.
They go on they go on vacation together. They vacationed
a few things together. Because she lives in Califora's around
the corner for me. Yeah, and Teresa lives in New Jersey.
So when they get together, when she goes to California,
(22:14):
they get together, and then you know they they vacationed
a couple of times together. But they But you think
we're going to see every part of the wedding, Like
you can still go to a wedding and not be
like I've said, I won't film something. They didn't want
to be around the cast because she doesn't care for Dolores.
I don't think I got a question on my Instagram
and I'm not sure what it's about. How do you
(22:35):
feel about what Ashley said after you met up with Teresa?
What did Ashley say? Congrats? Oh that's it. Yeah, I
thought it was a smoking gun there. Well, because Ashley
Ashley was like to me, she was like, you guys
have been through a lot of shit, and she's like,
if you guys made up, She's like, just you know,
(22:56):
be careful. So now that you've made up with Teresa,
but she's like, good for you. Now that you've made
up with Teresa. Do you think that you and Dina
will make up or there's hope. I've I've always been
open to that and we've the last few times we've talked,
it's because of like something bad had happened in the
family or whatever. Um, it was very civil, and my
(23:19):
husband's been to California a few times, has dinner with her,
he stated, at her house. One time, she's come out
here for an event I couldn't go. I was actually
invited to the event. I couldn't go because I didn't
have a sitter for next But it's cordial and if
I saw her, it would be cordial. We used to
be super close, and I don't know if we could
get back to that place because you know, I'm I'm
(23:40):
people that I've had a history with, that I've been
close with. I'm always open to to, you know, hearing
people out and being fine because it got ugly, you
know after a while, and she's family to me. She
was like a little sister to me, you know. And well,
speaking of getting ugly, um, did you know one one
was last time you spoke to Danielle's stab? And two
(24:03):
when did you ever see the emails? Wait? Which oh,
between Melissa and Danielle. No, she wouldn't tell me. She
wouldn't show me. I asked her to show me. She
wouldn't show me. Melissa, she was just like, I don't
want you know, but Danielle. I last place I saw
and talked to Danielle was that season two reunion when
(24:25):
she hugged me. Okay. Then I had gone to do
press and someone at the press outlet said, you know,
Danielle's trying to put out stories about you. She's trying
to sell the story about you. And I'm like, what
I thought, Like we squashed things and why is she
doing that? Then this one girl turned on her on
Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was at the time,
I don't remember, and started sending me all the private
(24:47):
dms where she was telling this girl to attack me
on social media, that she was putting an article out
about me, laughing about it, and then she was telling
lies to this person about my daughter that weren't even true.
And then I was like, this is a danger a
person because she's putting out all these lies and spreading
them like they're truth and they're not truth. And it
was to me that, to me, is a dangerous person,
(25:08):
and that's someone I would never wint in my life. Like, So,
if you had to have lunch with one person, would
you choose Danielle stob or Melissa Gorga neither? This is
like a it's pick or die. Oh, pick or die?
Oh next, it's the worst one, maybe, Okay? If I
have to pick, yeah, and I really don't want either
(25:29):
of them, Melissa, then I slapper don't But Danielle would.
I feel like Danielle is like she's toxic, Like her
tiktoks or whatever they are make me feel, I don't
see them. But she's a dangerous person because she makes
up lies about people and then spread something like they're
true and then it gets picked up and it's getting
(25:51):
gets wings and they're not true. And that's, to me,
is a dangerous person. I get it. If you're fighting
with me and you want to come at me and
say something to hurt me, the do it. You know,
I'll come back at you whatever, But don't make up
stuff like I don't fight. Like who do you talk
to and Jersey? Now? Who on the current in Jersey?
(26:13):
Once in a great while? The loris Um, Kathy Achiely
kim d Caroline. What do you think about Melissa saying
that Caroline was too old and boring to come back
to Jersey? Wait? Melissa always he used to always say
(26:33):
that she wasn't boring an ultimate girl's trips all over
the process? Right? Have you talked to her about that
at all? I did talk to her. She didn't tell
me that much because it had just happened and it
was really traumatic for her. Whatever happened was very traumatic.
Were you there? No? Oh? Thank god? I forget who
(26:53):
was on there? She said, it was just very traumatic.
She's trying to process it all. She can't talk about
it right now because it was under you know, investigation
or whatever was happening, and it was just nothing she
could ever imagine, and it was bad, and I just
kind of let it go. At that point, I didn't
dig anymore because I could tell it was bothering her,
so I didn't even I'm just waiting. So here's the thing.
(27:18):
I always said, like, could I handle a week away
on a girl's trip. I could handle the drama for
a week or whatever. But I could never do it
because I don't have someone like that that can watch
Nicholas for a full week for me to do something
like that. I don't have Like Nicholas escapes, he's he's
too big for my mom um CJ. I don't know
(27:38):
if he would feed him correctly, what would happen? No,
I don't know. I don't know if you could handle
him for a week. And my husband works, so you know,
my husband could watch him in the evenings. But as
of right now, I don't have someone that could watch
Nicholas for me to go on the girls. It would
be more stress added to your family life, for sure. Yeah.
So how's how's Ashley? Um? She's good, good, she's good,
(28:01):
she's um. You know, she found out you know she
got diagnosed with them bipolar. I didn't know that she's
been dealing. Yeah, so she's been dealing a lot with that,
which explains like a lot of things you know, she
was feeling and going through. She okay, yeah, yeah, now
she's you know, she's she's very open about it. She
talks about it on our social media, like her kind
(28:23):
of steps in, you know, helping herself, and she's doing good.
She's a great mommy to her son, Cameron, my grandson,
and he calls me Glamor, kisses Glamor, he calls me kids. Yeah.
Speaking of resources, I got a message asking from a
fan best resource for parents with children diagnosed with autism?
(28:44):
Is there any advice that you can guess resource you
know who gives a lot of great resources as Taka
Taca on it if you go on their website. They
she's very detailed and has tons of resources on her
on her website and like leads parents through beginning to
the end, and she's really good with us. I would
look on yeah, I would look on there for the start.
(29:07):
I mean, there's so many but okay, we've got to
do three final rapid fire questions to close us out.
First one, is there hope for Melissa and Teresa? And
do you think the show needs both? I don't think
the show needs both, And I don't think there's hope
because there's so much damage that's been done in a
(29:28):
lot of trust. It would have to be like years
after both of them are off the show and maybe
find their way back to each other. But as long
as they're both on the show together, they're never gonna
be like fully d I think if one of them
does get let go, it's and I's gonna be worse
between the two of them. Yeah, I agree, I worked
them both on the well Teresa and Louie last um,
(29:52):
I mean it any relationship she's pausing and at any
time no, but because I'm like if I'm asking honestly,
looking at them right now, I don't see them ever,
they're so in love, Like you can see it the
way he looks at her, he laughs and everything she said,
like you could tell he's so in love and she's
so madly in love with him. I could never see
it now, But I mean I was like that with
(30:13):
my first husband and we ended up to right. You
never know. So I have a quick question for you,
what do you think about the two Joe's meeting up
in the Bahamas? Oh, well, Teresa knew about it ahead
of time because she knew about because there was a
friend of hers on the same plane as Joe and
Melissa going to the Bahamas. And so Teresa was like,
(30:37):
if you see them, you need to be nice to
him because I don't want there to be a problem
with you guys and there to be a fight because
if they you know, if Joe gets into trouble, it's
like not good. So she's like, if you see them,
just be nice with that. Videos that videos set up
staged it. Well, Joe, I think Joe thinks it was.
I mean they literally were together three minutes. Well, I
(30:58):
saw that Joe, uh Gorga posted the video, but the
other two did not post it right because it was
literally three minutes long as clearly. Yeah, I mean it
was just like corny. Do you think it was a
kind of a stick it to Melissa, I'm sorry, a
stick it to Teresa video. Oh, I'm sure of course.
(31:19):
It was like a tip for tat Yeah. And then
final question just because this was they're also wait, they're
also trying to get a hold of Kim D to
make up with Kim D. They're like, we like Kim D.
Like yeah, um, how do you think, Like what is
the trick to keeping your marriage last through all these
years of drama and craziness? A sense of humor? I
(31:44):
love that. It's a sense of humor. When you say
a sense of humor and sex, yeah, you know what,
that's pretty much true sense of humor because you can
when they're like your best friend and you can go
through like you can have a shitty day and be
mad or whatever. But then like if they like, when
(32:06):
I get in a mood, it's hard to get me
out of it, and he knows how to pull me
out of that mood by you know, making a joke
or whatever. Like he knows me, and he gets me,
and I get him, and I know like when we
both need to be like you know yeah, And it's
really a sense of humor. I think we have a
good sense of humor with each other. And I think
that really God helps. We talked a lot about the show,
(32:27):
but personally, like what's going on in your life right now?
Like what's your day to day? My day to day
now is homeschooling. Nicholas I had to pull him from
the school system here he was having a lot of
anxiety and everything. So now I homeschool him. I mean,
since the show, I got some certifications. I went to
(32:48):
I got a certified as a health coach to the
Institute of Integrated Nutrition. I went to the Integrated Medicine
Academy online for Autism Master three, Functional Medicine, Toxicity, and Hormones.
And I was using that to like help other families.
But now I'm kind of retired because it's just a
(33:09):
lot with Nicholas to be home with them all day
and doing that, and so now I just have time
on my well. I know how busy you are with Nicholas,
but we thank you so much for taking the time
to be with us today. And we're super excited about
this interview. And if you ever want to come on
to recap Tamara when she's on Orange County, hit us up.
But I have to tell you, Tarma, I am now
(33:31):
power watching all of the Housewives of Orange County because
I'm trying to see, like where you guys shop and
eat and you know that smart yeah, and a lot
of places aren't even there. I was gonna say a
lot of them been closed down, So her clothes I'll take,
but I'm like, I'll take your shop and just go
to the Quiet Woman and boyfriend. Go, oh my god,
(33:54):
I got to Shannon. I'm on season eight. Oh oh
my gosh. Well, we thank you so much for joining us.
You are so much fun. Thank you for dealing with
all of our crazy questions. And I hope that I
can give you one day so and we'll have lunch.
So when I come to those seed you guys are
having drinks. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Jacqueline. Bye,
Hosts And Creators
Teddi Mellencamp
Tamra Judge
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