Useless Screenshots & Irrelevant Receipts (RHOC Recap)

Things got heated between the Ex-Tres Amigas on this week’s episode and Teddi and Alexia have a lot to say…

Plus, Alexis needs to talk about something other than John! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melloncamp and Cameridge Edge.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod with myself, Teddy Melloncamp and Alexia.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Teddy, Hi, how's it going?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Good?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
There? You good?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I feel like I'm running around like a chicken with
my head cut off so much travel and work and
all the things. So it's definitely one of those days.
But I'm excited to get into this episode. I feel
like it took me on a whole like Merry Go
round of emotions like highs and.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Lows and like yo, well, I feel like you have
a lot to say no, especially that last scene in
the in the dinner. Oh god, all right, that was
hard to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That was hard to watch. Before we even get into that,
there's a couple of headlines we need to get into.
Real Housewives is Orange County. Shannon Badour suffered setback and
court battle with ex John Janssen over leged facelift. Shannon
Badoor went to court and as a part of her
effort to settle with ex boyfriend John Jansen's lawsuit against her,

(01:24):
but according to court documents, an Orange County judge denied
Shannon's request to remove John's allegations of fraud from the case.
John accused Shannon of fraud and breach of contract. He
claimed that despite repeated requests, Shannon had refused to pay
back the money. He demanded the return of seventy five
thousand and punitive damages and attorney fees. In her recent motion,

(01:48):
Shannon argued John had failed to present enough evidence to
back up his allegation of promisory fraud. John opposed the
request and said his lawsuit had enough to press seed.
In addition, Shannon argued for John's requests for punitive damages
and attorney fees to be dismissed, but then the judge
denied her plea to prevent John from seeking punitive damages,

(02:12):
but did strike his request to have his attorney fees
paid for. The court noted John may be allowed to
re argue his case for fees at a later date.
So this isn't great, It's not really great.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, And this is a lot to talk about. So
this for sure, I mean, this is like all over
the storyline, This is all over the place. So there's
a lot to talk about with this. How do you
feel about it. How do you feel about judge making
that decision? Did you think it was fair?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, I mean I think oftentimes when it comes to
court cases, a lot isn't fair. But I think that
this definitely isn't a win for Shannon because if the
judge thought that Shannon was completely free of this that
I think the case would have been dropped.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Well, I'm going to give you my honest opinion. I
think that the judges, you know, that are ruling all
these cases, you know, know about the Housewives, and he
may not particularly like you know, the housewives and reality
TV stars, and I think it's always a big risk
that you take, you know, being a public figure and
having this platform and being a reality TV star. I've

(03:18):
seen where that has really worked against our favor, and
I think this is a case of that. You know,
I feel like John doesn't have enough evidence. I mean
by what he's saying and by what Alexis showed this episode.
I mean a receipt. What's the receipt that he sent it.
I mean, Shannon's really not denying that he gave her
the money, so there's obvious proof that he did give

(03:39):
her the money, but there's no paper there's no contract.
There's no I mean, he could alled that it's a
verbal agreement, but they were dating and there were a couple.
I mean, who knows to say that he said, you
know what, I don't want to do this for you.
You know, maybe she said, you know, I'll pay you back,
But how is that like an agreement.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I have the feeling that there's going to be more
to come on this and it'll shed more light on stuff.
But I think it just goes back to always, whether
somebody is your boyfriend, your friend, whatever it may be,
loaning money or giving gifts at this high amount is
going to end in drama when relationships come to an end.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
If you're with a housewife, if you're on a TV show,
if you're on a reality TV show, it's always going
to be that and it's always going to make the headlines.
I mean, it's happened to a lot of the girls
on these other franchises where you know, things have not
turned out well for them just because there were reality
TV stars. I mean that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
But even if I'm not on a reality show right now,
but if I started dating somebody and they loaned me
or gave me seventy five thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
And it's stipid. If it's a loone, why didn't he
get an agreement? Why didn't he make or sign a
paper that said I'm loaning you this money with the
condition that you came me back. There's no agreement, there's
no pay it's his word against first.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well, and supposedly she said that she tried to pay
him back, allegedly something along those lines, but in order
for her to pay him back, he's no longer allowed
to stay disparaging comments about her. He refused to sign that,
which that that is the only part. I mean, all
this other shit. We can argue it back and forth,

(05:20):
it really is. You know, I don't love people money
for this reason. I think it always comes back to
bite you in the ass because money is ends up
killing relationship. But sure, I think I think it's it's
just tricky because why wouldn't he want to sign the

(05:43):
document that says, okay, pay me back, then we don't
have to go to court. Right.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
No, And truthfully, they're going to spend all this money.
They're going to end up spending more than to so
many thousand dollars that he gave her, and it's just
a stupid move, you know, and he didn't want to
sign a or where he can continue to talk about her,
so it's kind of like he's sending a mixed message.
I don't want anything to do with this, but you know,
I want to continue to be able to talk about

(06:08):
you and Alexis as well.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And well, what somebody has said is that it's because
in the agreement, and who knows if this is true
or not, but it didn't say that. It was only
about the disparaging comments being about what he was saying
about her. It was not mutually exclusive, so it means
that she could continue to talk about it. I don't

(06:31):
know if this is accurate.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It could be true because I get it. She's on
a show where she that's her job, so she needs
to say her story, and then she has all these
other women also saying the story for her, so it's
kind of like she had her hands side that she
needs to have, you know, that ability where she can
speak because it's her story and she's getting paid for that,
that's her job.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And especially alexis now coming on the show to talk
about it. Exact show receipts.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, she can't keep her mouth. But he on the
other hand, if he really wanted nothing to do with this,
he could keep it his mouth shut and he could
have gone paid. If that was the case.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, if he really wanted the seventy five thousand dollars
and it wasn't about just sticking it to her, right,
because I think he's probably still pissed about past things
that she said, like saying, oh, you know, I always
paid for him at the beginning this and the you know,
like I think.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
For him, it's not she's been pretty quiet between you
and I. But I think that I mean, obviously this
episode she does say that she has more things if
she really wanted to, than she could say, and he's
a real monster, and there's so much more that she
can say. But I mean, at this time, I think
she's just saying the truth, you know. And like all relationships,
you know, some guys pay some girl's pace. She makes

(07:42):
good money. He makes money too. You pay for a trip,
you buy him a gift. You know, it's not like
you're keeping count of how much money I spent and
how much money you spent.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But I originally for that you actually do I do
I know exactly what money and I spend I know, like, yeah,
well I got.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
To do But you don't want to bring that up.
You know that that's just like something that you do
out of love because you know you want to do it,
but you're not kind of like.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
But I think also so much was said last season,
whether it was off camera and then brought up on camera.
There was a while their relationship was coming unglued. There
was a lot of things said. So I think that
both parties, I think, have a lot of residual anger
towards one another, and it's coming out in the form
of this lawsuit, where really it should just be you know,

(08:29):
these two are toxic together, they should be done. Let's
pay each other out and move right along. But I
think the idea of now Alexis being on the show
is just going It's going to keep opening that scab,
It's going to keep opening up. Of course, this next one,

(08:56):
it's Ryan and Jen went on this podcast called Date
Your Wife, and an Instagram post, Ryan wrote, thank you Garrett,
Jay White, and Daniel White. Jen and I are truly
grateful for the opportunity to be on the amazing Date
Your Wife podcast. We loved the four of us kept
it real. In this episode, we dive into the story

(09:18):
of how Jennifer and Ryan met, as well as the
challenges they faced in their previous marriage. Ryan often portrayed
as Orange County's bad boy, and Jennifer, a mother of
five who had previously been married, to share their experiences
navigating love and life under the scrutiny of a reality show.
We all know how reality TV can twist narratives to

(09:38):
create the story they want. Is refreshing to hear directly
from Jennifer and Ryan and get to know them better.
They both seem genuinely connected and deeply in love. Our
conversation also covers the struggle and dealings of social media trolls,
media scrutiny, and public comments. I mean, I think, listen
to the podcast if you want, and just keep watching
their relationship play out. Their relationship whether I think sometimes

(10:03):
Jen seems like she's ticking her head in the sand
a little bit. They do seem to get along relatively well.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I agree, I like them together. I think they're really
in love and happy together. Again. You know, we don't
live with them, so we don't know what really happens. Yeah, yeah,
of course, I mean they could say, you know anything,
but I feel like, you know, there could match. I
feel like for now, you know, I mean you don't know,
like we say, you know, it's a risk that you're taking.
But they seem to like each other. Seems to treat

(10:30):
her nicely, and they seem to be like in it together,
you know, as a couple supporting each other.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So we'll see this. Next one is Taylor, who you
know was a friend of last season, but was also
on Beverly Hills Beverly Hills multiple seasons. She now has
her own podcast. It's called Naked Truth Podcast. She states

(10:57):
that one of my Oscy housewife friends was getting out
of the car behind me, and I haven't heard from
her and quite some time, and I actually have been
really hurt over it. So when I saw her, she said,
oh my god, how are you. She's acted so excited
to see me, And I said, actually, I am hurt,
and you hurt my feelings. She was going through a
really dark time in a roller coaster relationship. So I

(11:18):
want to be supportive of my friends and everything they do,
but especially in a situation like that. So I was
her go to call morning, noon, night, in the middle
of the night, just as many times as I could
be there because I know there was a time when
I needed that. When her life changed all of a sudden,
everything was different for her and she didn't need me
any longer. Crickets. I haven't heard a single word from her,

(11:39):
and it was very hurtful to me. One of our
other oh see house so I friends has said to me,
you just wait and see. The minute that she doesn't
need you anymore, you won't hear from her. I thought
that's impossible, because we were on the phone three, four
or five hours a day listening to her cry and
support her. There's no way she's just going to drop me.
I feel as though she was taken aback. It's been

(12:00):
a long time and she just dropped me like a
hot potato. She said, oh, I'm sorry, and I said, well,
you know you hurt my feelings. So clearly this is
about Shannon, Shannon, Taylor and Taylor. I think the hard
part about this is and I think this happens on
a lot of shows. Like I was very lucky that
when I got fired, my core friends were still my

(12:24):
friends and still there for me. But I also can
say with one hundred percent certainty I don't require a
ton as a friend.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm not right. Yeah, some friends are more needy, Yeah,
and some friends just need that attention and you don't.
And you know, you know when you're a friend, and
that's what real friends are, you know, it's not the
one that you talk to three and four times a day.
It's just really like your real friendship. You can call
them at any time. You cannot talk for a whole week,
but then you get on the phone again and it's like, oh,
we shouldn't go by. It's like you just talk to her.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But I think that's also what we see playing out
through this episode, is what Taylor is saying, is what
I think Tarmora had said past when Tamara got you know,
fired or demoted or whatever we're gonna call it, she
dropped her as well. And I think that when you
require a lot of somebody and you're on a reality

(13:13):
television show, like let's just imagine, you know, you and
Mary self probably require a good amount from one in
one another, like you guys confide, I don't know how much.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Right, No, I mean we're real friends, But I don't
know what you're trying to say. There's girls that only
become your friend for the show, and they're kind of
like show friends, right, and they use you, they need
you for their story that episode, I'm sorry, or that
season as a matter of fact, and then things shift.
And that's where you know when your real friends are
when you're not filming, Are they still around? Are they
there for you? Do you keep in touch with them?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
But I think that there's also a difference, Like I
have people that I would consider my real friends on
the show, but I wasn't calling them at all hours
of the night, crying to them, telling them my problems.
You know that that opens a whole nother level. I mean, yeah, yes,
you know what, Kyle. Sure, there's been moments where like
I am broken down and I need to talk to

(14:06):
someone and it is Kyle. But that being said, she's
still a friend regardless. But what we have to history
has just kind of repeated itself because Shannon not only
has done this to Tamara, Vicky, Heather, Meg Taylor, Like
this is a pattern. So I think if if.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Well, you know, shame on the women that already know
that and they go for it, Like if you know
she's that type of girl, she's that kind of a woman,
like then you shouldn't be interested in having a friend
like that either. It's kind of like sometimes they use
each other, you know, it's not only Shannon, maybe Taylor
or whoever else had some motive as well to become
her friend as well. So it's kind of like they're
using each other, like you think she's using you're using

(14:48):
her by the way she's using you.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
But I also think, you know, it's very hard. I mean,
I'm watching back original seasons of Beverly Hills where Taylor
was in the same kind of situation where she would
call Camille or Kyle or whoever it was, when she
would get in these big fights with her ex that
ultimately ended up committing suicide. And it's very hard when
you're on the receiving end of these phone calls and

(15:12):
somebody is distressed and heartbroken and crying to you to
then be able to go you know what, No, I'm
not going to listen to her right now because she
may fuck me over in the future. I think that's
a very hard thing, a hard boundary to put up,
especially when you are filming a television show together. But
I think you have to go into every friendship thinking,

(15:33):
you know, what this friendship could end and if and
they could.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Use it against me, because this is what I'm seeing
like that, you know, Maris and I have such a
bond that no show would ever you know, destroyers or
divide us. I mean we can have a difference of opinions,
but you know we would never do some of the
stuff that we see on the other shows, like between friends, Right,
that's very special. I was a friend before the show.
So that's I think what makes the difference. She's been
in my life, like the most difficult times, like my

(15:58):
biggest stories and like my biggest star olds, So it's
different the guy.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Also, she got fired tomorrow, you would still be her friend.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, She's always going to be in my life. Yes,
But that's what we're saying exactly. We're both agree that
a lot of these girls just do this, you know,
for the show and when they need you and then
they drop you. But then on the receiving end, you
want to be a good friend. You want to listen,
you're in distress, and you're going to pick up the phone.
You're going to talk to them for hours and then
they forget about what you did for them.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and because I mean long story short, we can
all be very selfish at times, especially when we are struggling.
But I think then you know it. Also, what I've
noticed throughout the group of people on reality television is
you only live. There's a lot of housewives that I
think only live on reality television. There is no outside life.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, that is so true. Yeah, there's a lot of
If you haven't like my life right exactly, I would say,
like the show revolves around my life, Like my life
doesn't revolve around the show, right, And you guys see
whatever you get whenever we're filming, and and then I
just block it out and I just go on with
my everyday life like I do. But you know, there
are some women that are obsessed with this and like

(17:12):
their whole life is consumed by the show.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, so if that person isn't hired anymore, then they're
no longer a person that you're going to take the
time to talk to because it's not.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Your life anymore. You're done, exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It starts where Gina and Jen go to Heather's at
Bablaha Bay Club. Heather questions why Gina would allow Katie
to make this accusation. Gina says she's still getting to
know Katie. Then, Gina says Katie told her that this
was before. This was a shock to me that this
was before Sutton's Christmas party. Heather questions why Gina didn't
tell her in December, and Gina says she fucked up.

(18:00):
First things First, why did they have to have on
those gold eye masks? And why was it they slid
down to their lower and tire sit.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Up for one? Whiz weird too. Yeah, it's like, why
are you wearing a mask? It's like we're trying to
take off everybody's mask, Like, why are you trying to
put one on?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm like, oh my gosh. My other question is this
started to make me feel a different way about Gina.
I think Gina's been getting a very good.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Entire It's not a metage. She's actually being great. I
mean she's just being you know, very fair, you know,
until this, until this. Yeah, apparently she knew about it
already before and she was hiding and well, she said
she didn't want to bring it on because she was
afraid what it was going to do to everyone when
they're you know, every all the girls were back. Katie

(18:47):
was trying to become friends with the girls. I mean,
I think that that's what she's trying to say. No,
that she didn't want to bring that because she didn't
want to make that a problem. But she should have
known it was going to be a problem if Katie
would say that.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Well, of course, But you think for one second that
Gina didn't have the intention of making sure that this
came up on camera. She saved it. That's what people do.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
They save it, save it. That's true, you know the show.
That's how it is.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, I mean I think she can't.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Such a big mouth. I have to save it for yeah,
but make things.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, but I think she saved it and then she you.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Know then but she saved it for Katie.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, she saved it. So then there would be drama
with Katie and Heather and it could all blow up.
But then she could look like the good guy, right,
And I like, but don't try don't try to produce
this into something that it's not. You saved this information,
you let it come out. Then you act appalled that
it came out. Just own it and be like, yeah,

(19:48):
let's free.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You shouldn't have backed it. She shouldn't have acted that
she was you know, surprised by it because she already
knew about it. That's like where it makes it like
fucked up that she knew about it and she's friends
with Heather. But think about it. Would you have told
Heather before if you would have given Heather that information,
that Heather would have brought it up to Katie, it
would have been the opposite.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well yeah, but then, but then I think it would
have been if Heather would have brought it up to Katie.
I think we'd probably already be done with this conversation now.
But what made this a bigger deal than it? Truthfully,
it is because I don't even actually care whether she
called the paparazzi or not. But it's that Katie.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I thought, by the way that Terry said he loved it.
I loved when Terry said, oh, I love the paparazzi, Like,
do you have his phone number? I would love to
call him because I love to have my pictures taken.
I thought he handled that so well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I mean, I think they they're well oiled machines. They
would have handled it differently. I think what Heather didn't
like is that she was called a liar behind her back.
Gina knew about it. Gina is now pretending like she is,
you know, mother Teresa in this whole thing, when really.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
She knew about it and she could have gone the information. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, then we're getting some new comprofessional looks. These are
a little These are a little tough, these confessional looks.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I agree, Why are they? Especially the hair, I mean
it's not even so much a clothing. I think that
just like the whole glam as far as the hair
and makeup goes, it's it's not doing them. Well yeah,
I don't know. I feel like the girls for the
confessional looks, they want to try so hard and be
like over the top that they look ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, I think that's the problem that people like Dread
and Erica who that's like their natural sell right, that's
their character, that's that's the reality, that's who they are.
But I like Marasol on my show, Oh maybe Gerdy
mar Chanelle I on, there are certain women that that's
just who they are. They always are going to be
over the top. But then when it's when it's somebody

(21:45):
like me, if I try to come to the top,
I look like an asshole me too, And.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I kind of ridiculous, you know that was That's my
hardest thing. I hate the confessionals already, like having to
sit there in the hot seat and being questioned and whatnot,
so that for me already is un comfortable. Then you
put on top which you're gonna wear, and like the
hair and just like the whole thing, the whole look.
It just stresses me out. I just paid everything about it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, and if you're not dressed as who you are,
like in some capacity, it doesn't feel like unauthentic confessional,
like you can tell you you're uncomfortable in your own skin,
giving it, like I remember, you got to own it,
you got to own it. Yeah, because Gina and Shannon
both looked uncomfortable in their confessional looks.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't even recognize Gina. Like I had to put
on my glasses when I was watching because I was like,
is that Gina a completely different look?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I Like, I think Gina is a beautiful girl, but
like I think she's beautiful to it.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I love her style. I mean I've seen her and
I always think she's very stylish, very pretty. But it
was just like that look, like whoever got did it
for her? Like it's not working.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, but who knows. Maybe because they filmed it so
many times, maybe this was just an off one and
the next time we see her in the same look,
maybe it'll be toned down.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, hopefully Tamos look like Tamra's like how she is,
you know what I mean. She has a hair like
she wears it, her makeup, you know, her pretty dress,
like how she would. You know, I feel like you
need to be that person like you. I like to
be who I am on camera, just like how I
would dress like I'm not gonna look ridiculous because I
would never dress like that in my real life. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I think Heather always kind of looks like herself.
I think it does. I think Katie is really awesome. Yeah, Emily,
I think that it just whenever you try to be
a little too much, it comes off as a little
too much. Then Shannon goes to Katie's house. Shannon tells
Katie she admired her for standing up to Heather, and

(23:38):
Katie shows Shannon the text proof about the paparazzi. Katie
thinks Gina is terrified of disappointing Heather. Katie gets a
point and loses a point in this one because she
gets a point for calling out Gina for being scared
of Heather, but then she loses a point for continuing
to show the screenshot of that terrible proof.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Text, which says, now it's who's gonna say that? Who's
gonna actually tell her? Like put it away, Like it
doesn't mean anything if you're not proving your point.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Like all you wrote back was yes, Like all the
person wrote back with yes. You could have texted that
to anyone in their mother and they could respond to yes,
Like she could have texted that to me and I
could have given my opinion. This proves fucking nothing.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I agree, But do you like Shannon and Katie together?
Does that seem like natural to you? Like? Did you
like that? Like their friendship and you found friendship?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I think that this I thought was a very good
episode for Katie.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I thought so too.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I appreciated Katie and Jen at the end kind of
just gossiping and talking like they're whispering back and forth
during the drama. I liked Katie with her daughter when
she was trying on different clothes and the daughter saying like, yeah,
if you want to go to impress wear the blah.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Blah, Botega. Yes, yeah, No, I like it too. You know,
I always liked her since the beginning. I thought she
was a good addition. But we have to give the time,
which is like what we said, you really just can't
judge by one episode, and I feel like the audience
always does that, And that's why I hate about social media,
that the audience just like watches one episode and there

(25:15):
they are on Instagram, you know, making the comments and
attacking and it's usually negative. And yeah, and you just
have to give people a chance. And I thought it
was a good episode for her too. And I did
love seeing Katie and channing together. I thought it was
like real, genuine and I think they're getting.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
To know each other and I appreciated it. I liked it.
But then Tamra and Emily going a walk. Tamer says
Jin can't sit at home and look at her empty
bank account. Then Tamor says it's self induced like Shannon situation,
and then Tamar thinks Gina is done with Katie. This
is where we kind of get We're starting to get

(25:52):
more storyline about what's happening here, and I think it's
it's foreshadowing what's going to happen at this dinner.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I agree, because then the dinner happens.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And all hell breaks loose. Then we get Emily and
Shane celebrating their anniversary. Shane has made the talking about
Shane has made zero effort to improve his health. Then
they the two ask each other fifteen year questions, if
you could go back, would you still marry me? Shane
says yes. Emily said she'd marry Charlie Hunnam. You know what,

(26:26):
he's hot. Then Emily asked what nice things he says
about her. Shane says he always tells the kids that
she's the best mom. Shane upgraded Emily's engagement ring, and
then Emily gives Shane the boudoir for it. But this
is what we need to talk about about the gifting
of the photo. I think the photo is beautiful. I
think it's great, but I almost died when I saw

(26:48):
it was in children's wrapping paper.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I didn't even see that, no way, But that's probably
all she found, right. She probably thought he would have noticed.
He was going to be so eager to open it.
Oh my god, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
But I was like, is this from your six year
old's birthday party? Like, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Left over wrapping paper? She that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
But also her reaction was a little bit small when
it came to getting her ring, and I was like,
did she know this was coming?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Well? I mean sometimes you know, because you know he's like,
you know, calling the jeweler, or you know there's some
kind of activity going on at home, or that they
talk about it or whatnot. But yeah, the ring was beautiful.
I think they're so cute together.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think because I think that Shane has had a
real come up on this show. I think everyone has
learned to appreciate that his like dry personality is actually humor.
And I think they're I really think they're a good couple.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
And I think I really enjoy watching them. They have great,
you know, dynamics to take the way. They're friendly. They're friendly,
they're sweet to each other, they laugh.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
They're also so different, but I think they compliment each other.
I like them together, but that also just goes to
show what can happen after a couple of seasons on
a household, as you see completely different sides of you.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, if the men make it that far, yes.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, most of them don't. The real unmarried wives of
Yes Any franchise. Right then, Gina and Katie get lunch.
Katie says she felt abandoned by Gina taking Heather side.
Gina says she had her back by telling her not
to bring it up. I mean she told her not
to bring it up on camera. So Gina says Heather

(28:26):
is mad at both of them and she should have
had Heather's back. More, Katie gets emotional, saying how she
values Gina. Katie is worried everything she told Gina will
be held against her. It's not Gina's best episode. But
also when Katie starts.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
To you don't think this is a good scene though,
like between them, like you know, at this point, I
feel like Gina's realizing that shed up with Heather, and
she's trying to tell her, Listen, you know, I'm not
going to have your back now because what I did
was wrong and I should. You know, I should have
been a better friend to Heather, and I told you

(29:04):
enough to say it. I think, what did she kind
of redeems herself.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't know. I thought she was kind of coming
in pretty hard on Katie, knowing good and well. This
is Katie's first season she could have advised her not
to bring up such a thing, you know, like, but
instead kind of made it more of a drama and
then wanted to be the hero in this aspect. But
then it isn't until Katie starts crying that Gene is like,
oh shit, I may have pushed this too far.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, you can see that Katie was really hurt.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, because I'm sure, I mean, we all live this.
I'm sure Katie was like, oh, shoot, this is what
I thought I was sing, you know, like whatever she's new.
What'd you think about the Shannon and her dad Jeane
getting lunch together?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Well, I mean, I like, first of all, I was
happy to see that. He's all I remember and watch
these shows, and I don't have my parents, so when
I saw her with her dad, it brought me a
lot of joy. I don't know what kind of relationship
she has with her father and how much involved you know,
how much she wouldn't bother your father, you know, since
he's you know, an older person. You know, I don't
know his health. But so I was kind of like, wow,

(30:11):
they have a good relationship, you know, at least you know,
you know, he knows what's going on. I don't know
whether that's good or bad, you know, when you're an
older person. But I was happy to see that she
did have, you know, her father, she'd have this conversation
with her father. I wasn't surprised by her father's reaction
as far as like, you got to fight this guy
because he's being a dad, he's protecting his daughter. And

(30:31):
no matter you know, how old Shannon is, it's always
going to be like his baby girl whatever. So you know,
I don't know, I like the scene, I really do,
you know. I think when we're in hard in hard times,
you know, we turn to our parents, and she's very
lucky that she has her dad.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, she also in this scene she shares that she
has to get a breathalyzer for her car, and then
they talk about the drinking and she says she's going
to be limiting herself to to drinks. She says that
when she was with drawn, they drank constantly and she
was miserable.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And by the way, her dad was drinking too, like
a big glass of wine.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well that her confessional actually did make me laugh when
she was like, yeah, I mean in the eighties, there
was just a big bottle of Chabie on the right.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I remember that bottle. I think it was like in
every household.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I mean the same way that like our parents would
smoke sins.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
They way to drop this off at school? Yes, like
absolutely carpool right, Like.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's just how it was. But I do think that,
you know, a big point is when drinking becomes a
mode of coping.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
But but is she really an alcoholic? I still don't
know that. I mean, just because you get a DUI
doesn't mean you're an alcoholic. I am very aware of
the dui that was dumb, irresponsible. But sometimes you know,
people will have two or three drinks only and unfortunately
they get behind the wheel and they do kill somebody
or kill themselves or get her or whatnot and go
to jail. I get that. But just because do you

(32:05):
have you get a DUI, does that make you an alcoholic?
Like That's what I'm not understanding here.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I think the I have two thoughts on this. I
think I'm never going to say somebody's an alcoholic or
not an alcoholic. I can't make that judgment call, but
I can give facts. It has been brought up since
her very first season by her kids, her friends, her
ex husband, And I think also another point we need

(32:32):
to make is Shannon seems to blame John for her drinking,
and Alexis is insinuating that John drank because of Shannon,
And it just seems like nobody wants to accept account
of doing right. And I think that is a problem,
Like you can't blame like, if I'm going to drink
too much tomorrow, there's no one else to blame but me,

(32:52):
of course not.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
We're like grown outs adults and we have their choice,
so that there's no you can't blame anybody. I mean,
it is true that you're be influenced in a way
if you know, obviously, if you love to drink and
then your partner doesn't like to drink, then you're going
to drink probably a little less just because you like
to drink with somebody else, and in their case, they
both like to drink. But I think it's really immature
and stupid to blame each other when you're grown ass

(33:15):
adults and you have the choice, you know, of doing
it or not. Well, but I just want to know
issue or not. I mean, I'm just like all confused.
I was like, Okay, she likes to drink, but guess what,
so does everybody else, because everybody else drinks.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think that is that is where some of the
women have reached their threshold, because they've been on the
show with her for many many seasons and had the
late night drunk calls and had all of that got it.
I think that's where it stems from. Do I think
that all the women on the show have probably drank
too much at one point or another and then's dumb shit? Sure?

(33:49):
But I think where some of them are like, listen,
this is a repeated thing that's happened over and over
and over again.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
And unfortunately it never really got so much attention until
her UI. Then it becomes you know, more concerning. It
also becomes like a legal problem, and it just you know,
maybe she you have to hit like rock bottom so
she can like finally take control of the situation.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Even though I have definitely seen scenes of Shannon looking
completely out of control while filming and you know, in
past seasons, I can say that so far this season,
Shannon is coming across the best that she has on
a drinking front. Does that mean that I think she's
an alcoholic or not an alcoholic? I do not know.

(34:31):
I do not know that answer. I do know that
if I was on a television show and I had
just gotten a DUI and all this shit was going down,
I write, take a break from drinking, And if I
couldn't take a break, I would probably start thinking about
why I couldn't take a small break from drinking. But

(34:55):
then Tama goes to Alexis's house. Tamra says, the Alexis
knows today is not the same as she has ten
years ago. Alexis then questions why she wasn't invited to Katie's.
Tamra says, Katie thought it would be disrespectful to Shannon.
Tamra says Shannon's life has been upside down for ten
years and says it's traumatizing for her and that Shannon

(35:18):
needs rehab. Alexis says Johnny barely drinks since they've been together.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Well, I don't believe that, and you know, I mean
the whole thing. You know, I'd like Alexis, but I
don't know why every word that comes out of her
mouth is john And now Johnny like, why, like, don't
you have anything else to say besides talk about him?
This is nobody cares. I mean honestly, this is I
just have a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Honestly, I really, I really think that Alexis thought she
was coming on and doing something here by the way
she's talking. But to me, it's just giving me the eck.
If your relationship and your life is so good with Johnny,
then quilp telling us all about it all the time,

(36:06):
like exactly, I get it. But a part of this
that really made me. I took my sadness about the
whole situation away. But when Tarama says, when you break
off an engagement, you usually give the ring back, But
how the fuck are you gonna give a face back?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Right? I gagged. That's why it was a better deal.
It's better than a ring for sure. Oh my god,
that was so funny. That was so good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's like, oh my gosh, like we all know, just Tarma,
she did him good.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
She did him good.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That was a good one. But then somebody is also
going to have to tell me who the how Alexi is,
because why is Alexis keep referring to see that way exactly?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
So now it's Alexi and Johnny, right.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But like I really I'm trying, I'm really really trying
to go in one. I don't like when people talk
about themselves and the third person, even with a nickname
or without a nickname. But when I'm talking about myself,
I just say myself. I'm not like and then Teddy
was all or TJ or Teddy Joe or It's just like,

(37:16):
stop right, you're bugging me. I want to give you
the benefit of the doubt, Lexi. Lex Alexis right, but
you're bugging. You are bugging, and tamra Is says a
funny comment, but then Lexi's right back to just drilling
in her points. We're like, maybe take yourself a little

(37:37):
as serious and have a little fun with it. But
she's not.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
No, she's not. She gets the dinner and she has
the same kind of behavior, so.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, she doubles down. Then all the women, including Vicki
and Alexis, meet for Gina's dinner party. Alexis asks Katie
why she wasn't invited, Like, you already know why you
weren't invited, told you the attention, please. Katie says she
didn't want Shannon to feel underwater. Then Alexis says to Vicki,

(38:10):
look who's in my world now? I mean, I guess
Alexas I don't know. I guess that some people may
have chuckled at that line. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Well, I feel like Alexis has been watching these shows
and kind of like recording everything in her mind, and
she's like throwing all these lines and things like that happened, like,
you know, in previous seasons when she was on, because
they flashed back to that moment where Vicky how to
use that line, so then she's kind of like using
it against her.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I feel like, yeah, either Alexis has been watching these
shows and is like trying to come in with the
funny one liners but that are coming off not so funny,
or she's like has like a funny publicist that she
like is helping her come up with like the right liners.
Like you always know when there's the hell life that
has those like quippy little things to say, but then

(39:03):
they can't deliver it properly, so you're like.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Uh huh, but yeah, how did you feel about VICKI
showing up? Did you think that that was going to happen?
You know, sometimes it's kind of like you feel it
or you know something's coming, but I really didn't, you know,
expect her to be there, But Tamra did make a
point that Shannon brought her, you know, to feel comfortable,

(39:28):
but comfortable, right, you know, she felt, you know, and
not a blame her. I mean, she had to walk
into like a shark tank, so she was like, Okay,
you can come with me. And maybe Vicky also wanted
to be part of it and have something to say
to Tamra as well, and just she wanted to be there. Yeah,
I mean I thought it was a good move by
the way.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I thought it was smart to bring Vicky. I mean,
even though Vicky can drive me crazy, like she's definitely
entertaining television, she is, she's entertaining. Tamra says, Shannon brought
Vicky to do her dirty work, so she can. You know,
I think it's I think it was a combination. I
think that Shannon knew she wasn't going to be able

(40:05):
to take this conversation, and she knew that Vicky wouldn't
be able to help herself.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
So that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, and also clearly the trace Amiga split had just happened,
So I'm sure that.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
It was perfect that it was uh huh, Yeah, I
felt that too.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
But then This is where I feel like Vicky shouldn't
have done this. I don't think Vicky did Shannon en
of service here when Vicky says to Shannon, you have
permission to drink, like, just let it be. If she
wants to order a drink, she'll order a drink. But like,
now you're making a thing of it. Yeah, And then
Tamra says, oh, yeah, an alcoholics should drink. But I

(40:49):
think we get a peek at you know, one you
can see that Tamra's upset and all of this triggers
her because of the years and years in the past.
But I think we get to see a peace hypocritical
Vicky because first she gives Shannon permission to have a drink,
and then when someone corrects her, she agrees and said
Shannon doesn't need permission, Like, which is it, Vicky?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Like, I mean, I just thought it was a stupid
common part of me because she set herself up to
obviously this happening. You know, somebody crossed them, will who
are you to give her permission? So like just the
comment was not necessary, could have been avoided, and and
then it made a thing of the drinking the drink
to bring that up obviously, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I think that Vicky. I don't think Vicky's a dumb
dumb I think that she knew that she would she
should could say that and one of the girls would
dig in on her. She didn't know who it was
going to be, but somebody was going to get right then.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
The girls were really uncomfortable though, when all that was
going on. You can see their faces like they were
very uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well, I think that what if you were Shannon in
that situation, would you order to drink.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
If I knew I wasn't an alcoholic, Yes, because if
you know, you should usually alcoholics. I mean, I don't
know about that, but what I've heard is that they
just can't have one drink because then want more drinking,
more drinking. So I don't have that problem. So if
I knew that I wasn't an alcoholic, I know how
to have just one drink. But again, I don't know
what her condition is, So I don't know that she's

(42:25):
just can't touch a drink because I'm not sure it'll
make her want to have more drinking and then it
becomes a problem or she's not doing it in front
of the girls because obviously she doesn't want them to know,
and she's like drinking, you know, secretly at our house.
I don't have those details, so I don't know. I
disagree with you. They shouldn't have made it a thing.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
They shouldn't have made it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I made that comment, But I also.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Think if Shannon were to go into this differently and
be like, listen, guys, do I realize that the past
ten years, I've had extreme highs and extreme loves, I
have drank too much. I've made mistakes. DUI was a
complete wake up call. And now my goal and please
tell me if I cross it is. I want to
be able to see if I can socially drink and

(43:08):
not try to.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
That's a good one. Maybe she'll do that one next episode.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
You know what I'm saying, Like, just take ownership. Don't
blame your exxes, don't blame Johnny, don't blame this, don't
blame so and so, don't be mad at like, just know.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
But I feel really uncomfortable when these things are like
on these shows, because you know, in other cities as well,
drinking has been a problem for some cast members, and
then they've made it that and then in your real life,
if you really have a friend that's going through something
like this, You're not going to talk to them like
that and attack them that way. You're really going to
want them to get help and you and you're can

(43:42):
put your differences aside. You know, there's sometimes in life
that even if you've had backstory, you know a lot
of like mess ups up and you really want to
help the person. You're not going to get a result
by like insulting somebody and calling them an alcoholic if
they really are an alcoholic. You know, you're going to
hurt them and they're going to get defensive and they're
they're gonna not own it or fight you on. It's
just like it's just like hard to watch. For me,

(44:04):
it was like hard to watch, especially because I knew
there were friends before, so it just I don't know,
it makes me kind of sad and I'm surprised every
time they meet it's going to be the same thing.
So it starts getting like uncomfortable. So either Shannon owns it,
like you said, so, either Shannon owns it and says, listen,
you know, she comes clean. You know, maybe she'll do that.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I think, And but I think what ends up fucking
over the situation is during the five Months off where
Shannon continued like to call Tamra a drunk. So then
now you've got not only a friend that has been
pushed to their their end, now all of a sudden,
instead of taking accountability for your own actions, you're pointing

(44:43):
fingers yet another person that.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
You said, right, yeah, she's projecting it onto her. Well
that's what a lot of people do, like when they're
at fault, you know, they're projected onto the other person.
Well what about you, Like, you know, you're a drunk too,
and that way you take off the attention offer yourself.
That happens a lot, like you know on our shows. Yeah,
you know obviously, because that's how you defend yourself. Which
I agree. I'm like, you know, we're very like open
and we would rather just be open about it and say, listen,

(45:09):
this is what it is and that's it. She would
put it to rest. But by not admitting to it
or taking it a responsibility, you're going to keep coming
after her. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
And I think as a friend, and if you have
seen a friend drinking for years and years and years
and it's created lots of turmoil in their life, I
think you do have a right to put boundaries up.
Do I think the delivery was not ideal?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yes, clearly it wasn't ideal.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
It was not ideal. But I do think that's you know,
different personality types. And I think when you get hit
like your at your wits end and you feel like
you've ben push push push, that is some people's way
of handling is like, you know what, fuck this, I'm
going to throw it all out there because I'm done.
But then Jen and Katie acting like two little muppet

(45:55):
men in the theater during the whole dinner was like
the perfect balance for me during all of this.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I was so cute. Yeah, they were cute.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
But then this is another hypocritical Vicky moment. Vicky stands
up and says she's sick of the fighting, and Emily
brings up Vicky posting about Tamra being a trader, and
Tamra says she didn't feel comfortable doing a show after
Shannon crashed her car into a house drunk. Tamra says,
I'm not a trader, I'm a faithful I just voted
you two out of my life. And then Vicky says

(46:28):
Shannon went to rehab and Tamra says it was therapy.
Shannon says she couldn't drink in her program. Tamra says,
that's a lie. I think I love Emily's ability to
call people on their shit, whether they're friends or not.
She goes from disagreeing with Tamar on Shannon's habits to
defending Tamra against Vicky No more Gomblson Like. Then Vicky

(46:52):
goes up and does this whole speech about Jesus Christ
and follower and the blah, well, I'm.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Saying faith and we have to you know, support each
other and we have to be here for the women.
And yeah, it's kind of like against like a lot
of her behavior in the past. But you know, maybe
she did have like that Kumbaya moment, like at that moment,
you know, sometimes you have to be like for us,
you know, like that to that point that you're like,
you know, what, what are we doing? But it was fake.

(47:20):
I thought that it was kind of real. I mean,
I don't think it. It didn't seem fake to me.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Vicky. If you no longer want any drama in your life,
if you want to lure you there, then why the
hell are you there? And if you're there solely to
be a good friend to Shannon. We already fucked that
up by bringing up the drink in front of the table,
So I'm.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Right your case, that is true.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, But then Tamra questions why Shannon had to pay
for everything, but John took seventy five k from him?
Then this is all. This is fine now, But then
Alexis the receipts, yes, part for the facelip, part for
the loan, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
John has been to me like Lenny on our show.
I can't. I can't with this young man anymore. I mean,
it's it's really like the whole story is like about him,
Like it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
But at least if it was Lenny, Lenny could have
done the facelift.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Do you think he's gonna want all of Lida stuff back?
Oh my god, that's crazy. But yeah, but you know
what I mean, it's like the same John thing, the
same John, because that's all comes out of Alexis's mouth.
And what are the receipts? The fact that he gave
her a check or wire to her account, we already
know denying that exactly, She's saying, yes, he gave me
the money. Yeah, it's not saying but you know what's

(48:35):
a gift? Yeah, and I've given him a lot of
things too, So you know what we're done. We're equal.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Then Shannon leaves the right.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I really don't want Shannon to give him back the money.
I really don't. I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Why I think the courts are going to make those
decisions not because.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
She's a housewife I love. Because she's a housewife and
all the judges and legal people hate reality TV stars
and believe me, mark my words, because there's no agreement there.
They're not even It's not like I said verbally, because
you know, verbal contracts can have you know, some sort
of could be binded legally, but that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
And this is this is a PSA at all houseld I.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Hear say, she'd say, I mean, who cares? I mean,
you don't know, you weren't there, You're.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
If you've been on Housewives multiple years, you can get
free facelifts from good surgeons by just posting. So I'm never.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Gonna say you can go to jail.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Like did you you know do a trade like I
have my neckflip. I posted about it.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
We're good, I'll know money they we need to talk.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, But then Alexis tells Vicky there's more than what
Shannon has told her. Either way, that was money well spent.
But then some of the women are like, we didn't
even know she had a facelift, which goes back to
like Shannon giving that's a compliment.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, but that's a compliment. Well, they didn't know she
had a facelift because it looks so natural and it
looks so good. Yeah, you don't have a facelift and
look like somebody else, a look like the formed person.
So she looks so good, she looks so natural. So
they didn't know she had to face it. So to me,
that's a compliment not knowing that you got to face it.
You should want to look natural.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, I agree. Then Sannon says she could release something
worse about John, proving he's a monster. Shannon says she
can't say anything since he file a lawsuit. Tamer tells
Vicky she wasn't the reason she backed out of Trace
Amiga's it was Shannon. Vicky says Tamar needs to support her.
Tammer says Vicki is enabling her and she needs help

(50:29):
with her drinking. And then Alexi Alexis says, lie, her
face needs to stop talking. Emily thinks Alexis is doing
herself a disservice by being John's defender. And then Vicky
tells the women this is disgusting and they not all
need to be kind to one another as women of faith,
and then Heather and Emily agree that's hypocritical. So do

(50:51):
the editors because then they show all this, but also
and one last point and then you can you go.
But if Vicky really didn't want to be about the
drama when she saw Shannon walk away from that table upset,
I would have.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Walked with her.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I would have waked her.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, because I did that with Marisol. I had a
similar situation like that, and I was I wanted to
stay because I was not afraid, and I was like,
I can stay here. But I left after Marisol because
Marisola wanted to leave and she felt uncomfortable, and I
went with my friend and I want my friend. And
that's what Biggie should have done. She stayed there just
because she wanted to be part of the trouble and

(51:28):
kind of like have a moment. And then just after
she said everything just walked out and encouraged them all
to be friends and loving and kind and have faith.
I was like, what it is.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Bullshit, Like you stayed here because you wanted to get
a reaction out of Alexis and Tarmera and whoever else.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
I did like that you saw, you know, the little
conversation between Tamra and VICI you know where Tamra explained.
I mean, I don't know that it made it any better,
but you know, I thought that was I think they.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Just all have such a long history and they know
so much about each other, and they know, you know,
the good, the bad, and the ugly. And I think
that's why we've loved watching these this friendship throughout the years. Yes,
but I think now is you know, it really is
hard when you see people heading their breaking point.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah. Well, I mean I feel maybe Vicky and Tamrock
can come together and if they really do love and
care for Shannon and she does have a problem with drinking,
that they could help her.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But I think it's really hardy gone the other way.
Vicky is now doubling down on tam Like it's just
I don't want to be so biased, but it's like
I think at this point the trace of megas is
a toxic three so done.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Oh, I agree, we don't want that. We don't want
a three someme to be toxic.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So no, yeah, no, I mean only only good threesomething, right,
But I am yeah. I think I think the biggest
issue in closing is Vicky thinks Shannon can drink and
Tarmor doesn't. So I think they're not going to agree
on that point. But I also it.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Also, by the way, if I were Shannon, I would
leave those scenes and I would just like drink a
whole bottle of tequila because honestly, like you know what
that is to be like, not seeing with those women
and they're attacking you and telling you things.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I mean, I think these women are driving Shannon to drink.
I mean, it's a lot, a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
But I think also Shannon can just say what she
wants to do on her own to the group and
say where she is and what she's doing, and then
they don't have the option to comment on it. If
you comment on yourself and you make a declaration on
where you are and say to your friends, guys, I know,
I know I've.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Done one hundred you have to own it, but I'm
not ready.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I mean, we'll see. I think it's definitely heating up.
It is definitely heating up.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
It is I'm having fun watching now, my.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Gosh, I know we're hooked. We're hooked. I'm taking notes,
Oh my gosh. All right, thanks you guys for tuning
in to another episode of The Tatoo Cheese, and thanks
for all your hot takes

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Mhm