October 12, 2022 • 52 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental health podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today's episode entrepreneur, author, global speaker, and host of the #1 rated business podcast on iTunes, Ed Mylett joins Jay on a wild ride packed with wisdom, positive energy, and incredible stories. This is a must listen!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome in everybody to Unbreakable, a
mental health podcast with Jay Glazer. I am Jay Glazier,
and I am really really excited about today's guest because
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when I first started talking about my mental health and
when I when I was very open about it, I
got a call from this guy and he said, Man,
I want you to start sharing your story with the world.
And and his audience is huge. His audience is so big,
and I'm a little jealous here. His book, The Power
of One More is the number one book of all
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books this year and only came out in June, so
he sold six hundred thousand copies. Um. Just incredible human being,
a really really good friend. He's on a t V.
He has a TV show now called Change with Ed
my Lett, which brings us to our guest and my luck.
How are you, brother? Man, It's so good to be
with you speaking about when you were on my show.
I've done four shows. I've never had a reaction close
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to the one that you and I had together. Man,
we still every brother every single week to this day,
we keep getting messages about that show. Not just lives
that you changed, as you know because you know this,
but lives you actually saved that hour that we spent
together on the show. It makes me actually, just as
I said i'd expect, it makes me emotional because they're
actually were live saved by what you did on the
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show that day. So I'm super honored to be with you, brother,
So thank you for having me. What what wasn't? Why
do you? Because I also same thing. All of a
sudden people started reaching and I had been very open
about it before the book. I wanted to I don't
I don't want to wait from Breakable the book to
come out to be able to help change life and
save lives and lifting and power. So I started doing
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it on my social media. But man, the reaction I
got on your show, like you're saying, what was it? Like?
What did we do? Tell me what I did? What
we did that made it your most powerful show? Yeah?
I didn't. I didn't do anything you did. Um I
think no, no, no, you're a big part of it, brother. Show. Well,
I've done fun of them, so somehow yours was different.
So I have the one thing every show was in
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common is me and the one thing that was different
about this one is you. So but I will tell
you I think it's your vulnerability. At first, it's the topic.
More and more people are starting to feel like, hey,
I can talk about the fact that I struggle with
my mental health. Somewhere on the spectrum of it right
all the way from you know, there's suicidal and they
have those super great days like you talk about all
the way down to hey, man, I just worried too much.
I have too much fear, I have too much anxiety.
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There's a spectrum of it. I think your vulnerability and
your willingness to say for from two things one year
public person. So that's rare. It's one thing if no
one knows you and you're like, hey, I want to
share that I'm hurting and this is what I'm going
through and this is how I found my path. It's
another thing when, to some extent, you take a risk.
At first you did, it was a risk to say, hey,
this is something i've been dealing with. Right. That took
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massive courage for you to do. So I think that's
part of it. And then not balnestly, there's something about
like a hyper masculine man saying hey man, I'm just
gonna be real with you. You You know what, I'm not
always strong all the time. And I think that contrast
between sort of your public persona of this very well
known dude who's around masculine people all the time and
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he's an alpha in the room himself and just saying,
hey man, this is who I really am, this is
what I'm hurting with, this is what I'm dealing with,
and this is how I found my way out. When
I find my way out, the last part of it
was it wasn't like everything's fine and now I'm fixed.
It was more like, hey, I'm still on this journey,
come with me, and we'll do it together. And I
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think that together piece, all of those things converged to
just do something magic when you were on the show,
and I'm super grateful for it, but I think that's
what it was. Yeah, you know, look how Sam fucked
up and I'm learning to be good with my funked upness.
How just say I'm sucked up and I'm good with
my funk dumbness. And I recently correct myself, I'm like,
that's not true. I'm not good with my funked up
this I'm learning how to be and I've I've always
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used it to my adventage. It turns out so like
my depression of my anxiety, my mental health issues that
motivated me to go do all these great things. You also,
you're a master motivator. This is what you do right,
and it all comes also for you. The ability to
go build people up from the inside out. Yeah, when
did you realize that you have? I guess kind of
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that special gift if you will. Well, I just believe
people can change because my dad did. So. It's it's
not anything about me, man, it really isn't. My dad
was an alcoholic drug addict first fifteen years of my
life and just a bad dude. Wasn't a good husband,
wasn't a good dad. I was afraid of my dad
like I was afraid of him, and he changed. He
made one decision. That's why I called a book the
Power of One. When he made one decision, tried to
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get sober one more time. And I just have this.
The Bible says, hey, where there's no vision, the people
will perish. No matter what your faith is, people have
a vision. I said, you want to be happy or sad,
because I want to be happy, you want to be
rich or poor? Most people say I want to be rich.
Said do you want to have unbelievable contribution to make
a difference in your life or don't make any difference?
They say, I want to make a difference. So people
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have a vision. Their issue is it's depth perception. It's
how far away they think it is. And because they
think it's always so far away, they act in accordance
with this belief system that it's years and years and
years away. But what if that's a lie? What if
the truth is the next step in your life is
one decision away, one meeting, one new thought, one new emotion,
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one podcast. I call it you never know what lies
around next Tuesday. That's saying that you just say, I
say it's one more and so now there's a part
of your brain called the r A s. It's the
filter that reveals the world to you. If you start
to live with the expectation, Hey man, I'm I'm one
decision away, I'm next tuesday away, I'm a meetingum And
you proved it. You've struggled with this for years, You've
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talked about it privately, but you finally made a decision.
I'm going to write a book about this, and I'm
gonna start to talk about this. This completely shifted why
you're notoriety matters. You're notoriety now that's it saves and
changes lives. Right, So for me, I watched my dad change.
So that's number one, and then number two. I have
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never tried to be a motivator or inspire of people
that won't. Motivations empty. It's like a warm bath. It
feels really good, then it's gone. I try to be inspirational.
The root of inspirational, the word is to be in spirit,
means to touch someone in their heart right. The only
way you touch someone in your heart, brother, is that
you are willing to reveal your imperfections. You want to
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impress me, show me how perfect you are. You want
to help me, reveal your imperfections to me. And so
for me, I'm all about these are my imperfections. These
are the things I've done to make them less imperfect.
You probably have some of them too. And then that
as to me saying I'm funked up and good fun.
I don't brag about my successes. I brag about my scars.
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We all got scars, and my scars of what makes
me different? My scars what allows me to walk in
every room and say I like the rest of you
in here. And that's what I try and get people
to do is be proud of this. Almost broke you
and didn't should not allowed to use that to build
you up? And why does that matter? Because if we
can grow in life from where we are, why is
there always I'm always about growth? Like why do you
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want to grow? Some people like I don't want to grow?
I like where I am? Why do you want to grow?
Why do you want to show your scars? I do too?
And I think that anyone listening to this, they wouldn't
be listening if they didn't. Right, here's the hook in life.
Never forget this. Everybody Jay's proving it. I think I
prove it in life. You were most qualified to help
the person you used to be. So in life and
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I don't. I don't want you to throw this away. Well,
I can say this again, and I want us to
get this. In life, you are most capable and qualified
to help the person you used to be. So if
you used to only live in the gray almost all
the time, and now you find a way to live
in the gray only some of the time. You're now
qualified to help those people that are still living in
the gray every day. If you used to be poor
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or used to be broke and you're no longer broke,
you're now qualified to help broke people. If you use
to be broken as a person and now you're slightly
less broken, you're qualified to help broken people. And so
in life we grow because that next version of us
that we change into, we can now help those people
back where we used to be. And that's why there's
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that's why we have heroes like your friend DJ Dwane Johnson.
When if so many people look up to Dwyane, I
think it's because he's also a big vulnerable dude, because
I don't have made this money man, my relationship my
dad was a certain way, I've had these insecurities. He's
most qualified to help all those people he used to be.
I'm most qualified to help who I used to be.
Jay Glazer, is anybody listening to this? So the irony
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is the very things that you think in life disqualify
you from winning or being happy are the actual things
qualifying you, The things you're most ashamed of your like, yeah,
my divorce, my bankruptcy, my mental health, my scar on
my faith, my mental scars, I'm disqualified from having a
great life, don't lie. Those are actually the qualifiers. If
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you grow and if you change now, you can help
all those people who suffer from the same things. And
you know, you say, right there, help okay, because one
of the pillars in my book of how to get
through the grade is being of service. And being a
service doesn't mean you have to go serve in the military,
or um you have to go start your own charity
or anything like that. Being of service could simply be
that you're helping, you're helping somebody else. And I love
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what you say here because we all have again, we
all have scars we've been through, so we all have ways.
You know. I gave a speech recently and it was
two a room of clinicians, and it was like seventi
five clinicians, and I said, you're all here qualified to
talk about this because of your schooling. I'm qualified to
talk about it because my suffering just exactly what you're saying, though,
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my suffering gives me the ability to communicate, not my schooling,
because I fucking sucked at school. It's terrible at school. Man.
I got kicked out of my first school and after
my first semester, and I was a remedial English. My
A d D was a man. It was terrible. So
it ain't my schooling, but my suffering gives me that education.
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Were you I'm just super I've always want to ask
you this, How afraid were you to start sharing this?
Because you do have a high profile career. Were you
afraid heym cost me something? Any of that ever could
concerned you? Know? It? Never did you know? Whenever somebody says, men,
you're so brave or so courageous, I don't look at
it that way. I looked at like it was something
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I should do this. You should do this. If you
can help one person, you should do this. There was
never a question of not. I think also the fact
that I have been as dudely as you get, like,
no one's question of my manhood. So I cried a
lot on your podcast. I don't have to worry about
somebody calling me to fucking woods because I have stepped
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into a cage with the BENI sons of bitches we've
ever lived, and I've lost a lot, and I've won
a lot, and I've gotten choked out and knocked out,
and man, I've had a bunch of surgeries and I've
wrestled hundreds of football players when I started that m
am athletics program. And so as a result of that,
I don't ever worry about someone questioning my manhood. I'm
so secure in that way that I look at it
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and said, man, if I'm not helping someone, I'm being selfish. Yeah,
you even worry, you ever worry. I've worried about this
for me where I said, Hey, I'm the son of
an alcohol like, I know what it's like to have
all that. You said, Hey, man, I live in the
gray so many mornings when I wake up, and sometimes
was concerned that it's not become my identity. Though so
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so I've I've I've I've not allowed it to define me.
It's kind of like even retired athletes. You've seen this before,
like I'm an NFL football player, I'm an UFC fighter,
and then when that's gone, like, who the heck am I?
It's what's behind your rib cage that makes you special? Yes,
And I worry sometimes that as you and I are,
we're both probably the two most like two of the
most vulnerable people that maybe sometimes guys go, well, that's
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gonna be my new thing. I'm gonna wear this bag.
I'm hurting, I'm I suffer I this and they don't
and understand the other piece of it, which is to
be working on your way out of it. That's the story.
Isn't that my dad was an alcoholic and it was bad,
or that I had I'm easily. I lacked self confidence
and got down. The story isn't just the ja'son the gray.
It's that he's trying to win the day when he's
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in the gray. Right, I'm gonna tell you a great
story which involves you. Okay, I met some friends who
live here in scotstel because of the podcast with you,
and they're just they're huge fans of yours and they're like,
oh my god, you just the same thing, Like you
changed our lives. You gave us hope that there's a
way out of the gray to the blue, and you know,
we've been friends for a little while after that, and
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one night the two of them had to talk with me, Okay,
my friend Jen, my friend Jane, and then the Rock
had the same message the next day, and it was
do you think that your brand has become living in
the gray? Yeah? And I said, well, well yeah. They
said no, no, yes, you gave us hope to get
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to the blue. We need your brand to be in
the blue. And they said, we feel like you almost
feel guilty, like survivors guilt if you left the gray.
And I said, yeah, I feel like I'm turning my
back to those people with the gray. And Jennifer said, no,
I need you to continue to give us hope. That
there's what I'm about star crying right now, but I
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need you to continue to give us hope for all
of us that we can get to the blue. We
need you to think that you could live in the
blue and worry about pulling people up to the blue.
Not that you're abandoning the people in the gray. You're
a bend in them if you stay there. That thing,
by the way, is prevalent in every area of growing
in your life. That is so amazing you've said that, man,
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because I've watched a lot of people almost break the
poverty cycle in their life and become wealthy, or break
the mental cycle, or they've been crappy relationships all their
buddies are and now they found it and they're like,
they feel like they're leaving their buddies behind when they
grow you know, they're they like and a lot of
them the old analogy of the crabs in the bucket,
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where they pull each other back down into the bucket. Right.
Sometimes that's why it's important, if you do live in
the gray often to have some friends that live in
the blue a lot, because if you're just around all
your friends that live in the gray, sometimes you're pulling
each other back down into the bucket. And oftentimes for me,
there's just a few friends of mine that helped me
get out of when I'm in the gray as well.
That and I can relate to them because they also
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live in the gray. And so yeah, that survivor's guilt
is a I deal with a lot of athletes with that.
What they'll say, Man, Jay, these dudes who tell me
that I've changed and money changes me, I'm going and
I go, you know what, the right you are going
to change and money does change you? And did these
white parties are way better than wearing white and black stripes.
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I tell these guys all the time, Damn right, money
changes you, and you know I kind of look at life.
Just because you're with me for the first twenty doesn't
give you the right to be with me for the
next sixty. If you're not gonna power me, you got
they're gonna lift me up. I think great, let's lift
each other together. So I said, we walked this walk together.
If you're pulling me down, we're not walking this walk.
You're pulling my ask downwards? Well, how do you define
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that too? And and it's so good. I love our conversation.
I want to put this on my podcast. So but
how how do you just find it? How do you
define it? And it's and I wrote this in the
whole chapter in the book. It's the art of loyalty.
It's a dying art. It's win win. Like you and
I are relationship. We don't even shift from each other.
I care about you, You care about me. I think
about things. Hey man, hey, somebody just called about you
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recently and I was like, oh my god, let me
tell you about it. Give you the most incredible thing
which I knew was gonna help you in business. You
don't even know that's what that's what people do. How
could we help each other how do your friends talk
about you behind your back when you're not in the room?
And are they trying to pump you up to anybody
and everybody when you're not in the room, When you're
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not when you don't have to ask for it, that's
who you want to be around. But that's how I
live my life. I live my life, and you do
live your life like that. I live my life. Let's
get sound a little more, but but I live my
life like I'm going to be everyone's Paul Bearer. Now,
let me let me makexplain the only got what do
you have? Like six six to ten people whatever they
call they carry your coping out. Those are the sixty
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ten most loyal people in your life. So I treat
everybody like I'm gonna be there, Paul Bearrow like that.
Loyal loyalty is my brand. And if I can get
ten percent of the people in my life to treat
me back the same way, I got a pretty damn
good little crew. That's so good. And you know what,
I think we all think everybody else is gonna die.
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I don't think you know, I think it's okay to
contemplate the end of your life like Napoleon Hill saysn't
thinking with the goal, begin with the end in mind.
It's okay to do your life like at the end
of your life. Ultimately, who do you want to have become?
I think about that a lot, Yeah, I do. I
think it's healthy. I think a lot of people do.
What do I want to have done? What kind of
man do I want to become? What do I want
my relationships? What emotions do I have? Want to have
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felt in my life? I'll give you a reason why.
About three weeks ago, I'm watching Netflix. I'm watching The
Specialist Guy David A. Arnold, brilliant comedian. It's the number
one special on Netflix. Kevin Hart produced it, and I'm like,
I just love this dude. He's amazing And at the
end of it it wasn't just it wasn't just comedy.
He also did like inspirational stuff about how he made
it in his career. Right, I'm just moved by this
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man at the and he brought his wife and his
two daughters out, and then at the end of that
then there's a documentary on his dad's and his mom.
It was amazing. So I voiced text the dude on
Instagram Hey, David, my name is Ed. My let I
got a big podcast. I'll love to have you on.
Three seconds later, Jay goes, man, I'm a cute this
at my left my wife and I love you. My
sister is the big I'll come on. He goes. I said, well,
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I got an opening next Tuesday. Listen to this. He says,
I got an opening next tuesday. He's fifty four years old,
beautiful family. I got an opening next tuesday. He goes, Oh, man,
I'm shooting a movie in Atlanta. I go, okay. He goes, no,
you don't let man. I want to be on so bad.
I'll take the red Eye back from the movie set.
I'll land it six, I'll do your show. I'll jump
back on the airplane and go back to the movie set.
I'm like, wow, does the show amazing show? And it
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really does well. And he messed me, bro I'm getting
blown up. The audience is huge. Wednesday morning, he's like, Ed,
I don't know what's going on, but like I can't
get to all these messages. He sends me this video
like ninety I said, brother, they love you because it's
so inspirationally, so talented. That was He died what he died, Jay,
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What he passed away? Forty five minutes ish after he
sent me the video. Fifty four years old, in great shape,
wife and two beautiful thirteen year old and eleven year
old little girl Spechelon Netflix, Number one show on Nickelodeon, Amazing,
career momentum, wonderful, amazing man gone gone, and so we
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all live like everyone else is gonna die. It's okay
in life sometimes Ago, who do I want to be
at the end of this thing? What are the emotions
I want to have? But look at the gift you
gave him for and I hope you realize that for
you like that you were able to listit, this response
from of love that he gets to see as the
last things he's seeing that it's beautiful. And look, I
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I think we just rent these bodies, but the souls
live on forever. A man. He's still going through the messages.
But one other thing too for me about the beginning
of the end, contemplating the enemy, tell you why. A
lot of times I'll ask myself, whatever is hurting me
right now? Right like it's a major horrible thing. Is
this really gonna matter when I'm gone? Right? Is this right,
don't matter, what's the what the reason? When ed mind
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let gets real gray a lot. Sometimes I have no
idea why. I like you, don't. I love that you're
willing to say that. Sometimes I just wake up and
I have it right. But I also have some patterns
that I learned from my old man, and some of
them are I just worry. I like magnify things, and
I'll make some small stuff seem like end of the
universe stuff even to this day. I got hundreds of
millions of bucks, I got a great wife, I got
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a great family, I got great friends. And I'll wake
up some days like just worked up, and the only
thing that gets me out of it often was like,
is this really gonna matter when I'm gone? Like? What
is it? How big a deal is this really? And
what do you say? You you make a point to stop,
yes the cost the spiraling down, and say to yourself,
will this matter when I'm gone? I try to change
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the context, right, because what I do is I magnified
in the moment, I can't see anything, but it it's
like a tunnel, you know this, when we get down,
there's that starts to happen, right, And I just try
to get out of the tunnel by getting above it,
and I'll go, does this really matter? Really? Twenty years
from now, five years fro now, if I was to
die tomorrow, does this really matter? And it helps give
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me some peace about the context of it. So that's
why I do it. Man, Just absolutely incredible. That's so,
when did you realize at what point did you go, Man,
I I'm able to help a lot of people, And
when did you start seeing um? Because because people think,
you know, they see you're super successful now, but we
all have to Like, for me, it took eleven years
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for me to get a full time pitcheck. It was
far away from me from my success. But every single
week I thought that next Tuesday would be the week
I made it. So it allowed me to go through
the eleven years of rejection. And I want people to
understand that my overnight success was eleven years. Okay, how
was the overnight success? Tell me how you know your
journey of when you realize, man, I could have a
big voice to help people. Yeah, I wonder if I'm
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even realized that now, Like I still have a hard
time accepting the fact that I'm I still struggle with that. Dude,
I always think this makes sound crazy. I still think
something this could go away tomorrow. You know that keeps
me focused and sure that I do. I have a
little bit of that, like it could go away. I
don't ever really feel like I'm there. But the rock
still thinks he's gonna be broken next week and that's
seven bucks in his pocket. Yeah, I do too. I'm
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the same exact way. But I think that on the
other side of temporary pain, if you can survive the temporary,
you meet another version of yourself. I just believe this.
So whatever you're going through, it's temporary, and if you
can remember, if you can survive it, you can do
a side. You meet another part of you. I've been
able to be pretty successful with like not that much talent.
I'm not like uh high i Q I'm not I'm
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not six four. I'm okay looking, but I ain't Brad Pitt.
You know, like I've been able to I've been done
well in with two skills. Here's what they are. Number One,
I love people and I'm I'm present when I'm with people,
Like I love him and I believe in him. Yeah,
I K I got get a get better with that. Yeah,
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I'm just I'm good at that, and then too, I'm
a good talker. What does that come from? Five years old?
My dad's an alcoholic. Well, my dad would come through
that front door, man, I had to read him, and
if he was drunk, I had to get my three
sisters upstairs and tell my mom, go take a shower,
and I'd be down there with this dude and I
had to read him when he come through them five. Man,
I'm reading this man is how's his tie tiede? What's
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his breath like? How's he slurring his words? How's he walking?
If he's sober, we're aving dinner, We're good. If he's drunk, Mimi,
get enter an eric upstairs. Mom, waa, go take a shower.
And I would be left downstairs with this man at
five and six years old, and I'd read him. And
once I could read him, then I had to talk.
And I try to try to get him away from
the liquor cabinet jay because my dad was gonna throw
back eight beef eater Jin's man, bam bam, bam bam.
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I thought every dad did that, and I grab his hands,
Hey dad, Daddy, I got I look up and I'm
scared of him. I got a ninety three on my
spelling test. Dad, I had to Jackson baseball. I try
to talk to me. You did. And if I could
get him over the couch and I could talk to
him for like an hour, heat, sober up, and bad
stuff wouldn't happen if I didn't do it. You don't
want to know what would happen. And little did I
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know what was happening, man was I was surviving this
temporary pain. I was developing the two skills that I
would use to change millions of other people's lives and
make hundreds of millions of dollars in business because I
survived this temporary pain. A lot of times in life
when you're going through pain, realized it will be temporary,
and on the other side of it, you're gonna meet
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some element of you that you didn't have before. And
that's what's happened to you. Years of pain, years of
this pain, and finally to get a little bit to
the other side. Sometimes you've discovered this voice in you
that's a different voice. It's not just the sports voice.
It's not the M M. A voice, it's not the
coach voice. This different voice. It's this. Frankly, it's a
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healing voice, and you've discovered it only because of your pain.
I'm only great with people and a good communicator because
of that pain. So there is some extent that cross
I bared, that cross you bared, the cross someone's bearing
that's listening to this is the actual thing that's going
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to uncover elements of you that are going to change
other people's lives. That's what makes us magical, right, the pain.
And in my book, and I say this now, for years, man,
I just felt cursed with depression anxiety. And now because
of this, because of the reaction of your show, reaction
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of people of the podcast when I post her the book,
now for the first time, I feel like God bless
me with depression anxiety. And that's a powerful, really powerful
shift from being a victim to being powerful and to
be able to use something to help others. I mean,
we're here to be of service to everybody else, right,
And that was a that for me, was a really
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big healing moment. And I still get angry that I'm
that I feel this way, that I wake up, that
I woke up Friday crying for no reason whatsoever, and
I couldn't get out of it, and I did everything
I was supposed to do to get out of it.
So does it suck, Yeah, fucking sucks. But now I
have a hy like man. This was a blessing to
help so many others and moms and dads and grandparents
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and husbands and wives and sons and daughters. It's just
been beautiful. What has been the one or two messages
if you have gotten that has really lifted you up? Well,
one of the one's about you, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
so this one's you. I just give you the one
because it's you. So I had a really busy this
last week. I had five speaking engagements in five states
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and four days. And um, one of them was a
really unique one. I spoke at this big thing in Dallas.
I had to fly to Salt Lake City and this
event was at this dude's house. And it's all real
masculine male influencers, like real big dudes, dudely dude, dudely dude,
like the dude lest of the dude ly dudes. And
so I spoke and uh spoke in this guy's living room.
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Actually it was really an interesting experience. So it's like
a Hunter people there. I speaking these dudes living room
and I'm just getting all fired up because it's men,
so I can get real alpha and I'm done, and
you know, people come up and now we're just smoking
cigars and drinking some tequila and whiskey around the deal,
being even more dudely right, and I'm I'm real dudely
after about five of these whiskey and ELA's right. And
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so anyway, this guy, this guy's got a helicopter there.
He's like, hey, you wanna take a helicopter? Right, it's
at night, and only because I'm in these whiskeys and tequilas,
I'm like, yeah, let's go. So we get in this helicopter.
I take a ride at night around Salt Lake City.
I'm scared shitless and we land and I get off
the helicopter and probably the dude leest dude that's there
is waiting for me when I get off the helicopter
and he's crying. This is just Friday, bro. He's crying
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pretty heavy and he's kind of trying to hold the
he's kind of white in his face with the tears,
and he goes this, man, I want to tell you something.
You change my life. And I'm like, thank you so much,
because no, man, I've been listening to you for years.
Like I can't even tell him a better husband and
better father. And then as we're walking, he goes, can
we just get a private minute? And we're in the
dark in this guy's yard. There's no lights. It's kind
of weird at first, and then he goes, um, how
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well do you know j Glazer? And I go, I've
got to know Jay pretty well. Man. He goes, please
tell me he's real, and I go, bro like the
realist man like is the type of dude that'll just
send you a message like, hey man, I love you,
I'm thinking about you, I care about you. You know,
he's a real He's a real dude. This dude just starts.
He's not now tearing, he's like pouring water and he goes,
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I just want you to know, man, that you changed
my life. But Glazer saved my life. And he said, uh.
He goes, he said that helicopter you were just on.
He goes, I have one, and not that one. I
have one, and he said, um, for about three days,
I was having these fantasies almost about running my helicopter
into that mountain and he points set the mountain. I
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was gonna take my helicopter into that mountain. I wanted
to end it. And I don't know why. I wanted
it to be dramatic. And I kept thinking about my
wife and kids and I shouldn't do this and I
shouldn't do this, but I wanted to do it. And
he said, um, I'm driving to work on a Wednesday,
and I put your show on with Jay and he said, Bro,
I pulled over at six o'clock in the morning. I
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pull over on the side of the road and I
didn't drive, and I just listened and I listened, and
then I played it back the last half hour. I
played it back again, and it saved my life. It
saved my life. Yeah, I just wanted to know he
was real. And I said, Bro, he's a percent real.
So you just never know. Brother, that's you imagine this
man with the family, taking his helicopter and just ending it. Man,
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I appreciate you sharing that because every time I hear that,
you can see I'm yeah, I'm crying right now. I'm um, man,
something will happen today, bro, See just today, I think
that these things happened with you and and other people's work,
but actually with you right now more than you know,
because these are just the people that tell you, right,
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I'm going to this in my life to like people
that I see an airports kind of look at me
and they want to come up to me, but they don't.
This is just the ones telling you. Imagine all the
ones you are just like, hey man, I'm never gonna
say this out loud. When I was thinking about doing
this and just this quiet thing happened and I changed.
There's way more of those that will never tell you
than there are the ones telling you thank you for
sharing this. Thank you, thank you because you you see
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how much you lifted me up. And I hope you
could tell this dude how much he lifted me up
by telling me this story also. And I'll continue to
do this. I'll continue to live people and empower and savement.
Just be real, that's the thing. If you could be.
And people used always saying to me, why used to
trust in sports? And I say, just funk, I am
a I'm a authetic Like love me or hate me,
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you know who you're getting in the world where nowadays
it's it's it's filtered. I think the authenticity is ringing
ringing louder, which I'm proud of and I'll never I'll
will never change that. It doesn't just ring louder bro, Like,
uh it doesn't. You just caught me, bro, Yeah, it's not.
That's not that's not a like on Instagram. That's and
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by the way, you know, I was thinking of I
drove back that night because a couple of people said
some nice things to me about some stuff I had done.
And I never thought about it this way because a
lot of these dudes were dad's and uh, I was
driving back, I think about this particular man with you
because he wasn't like there weren't tears, like he was
flowing water right. Well, I thought about his children. And
there was another guy there that said something with me
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that I'll keep with me and him, But I thought
about his children. I'm like, man, what an honor to
know that me like this child of an alcoholic or like,
I didn't just help this man. You didn't just help
that guy brother. You saved his wife's This man has
two children. You saved this children. His children went to
school that Friday with a loving, alive father, not knowing
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they would have gone to school that Friday without a dad.
So think about those and then someday what happens to
that child. So the ripple effects for anybody listening to this,
of you just helping other humans is immeasurable. There is
a ripple effect that happens when you do it that
you can't measure. It's not just the person that says
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you've helped them, it's all the ones who don't tell you.
But it's all the people that they're charged with protecting
or leading in their life and as children in life,
when you have kids, most lessons are kids get are caught,
not taught. My dad didn't teach me how to worry.
I caught it. I didn't teach me how to have
anxiety and fear. I caught it by just being around him.
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Oftentimes in life we don't turn out like our parents.
We have a different career, we think different, we operate different,
but we do catch their emotions a lot. Yes, we
grew up in chaos. When you grow up in chaos,
it could either break you or it could build you.
For me, it's built a couple of great careers for
me because I'm sucking great in chaos in calm, but
I'm great in chaos. Tom before I get in trouble,
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I want to learn how to exist in calm. I
want I'd like to to not always being cast or
cost cast. It's it's hard to be friends with Jay Glazer.
Maybe that's why we're such good friends because about three
use the word I used. I grew up in chaos
and I was bragging on a PEAT performance show that
I was on a TV show like three years ago.
I heard my for like a one millionth time. I said,
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let me tell you about me, man, I operate amazing
and chaos because I grew up and I even knew why,
I just like you did. And then after the show,
my wife's like, do you ever think that's why you
created all the time? And do you know be the
wife of someone who's constantly creating chaos? Do you know
what it's like to be the the mom of someone
who's called And I thought about it. I'm like, that's
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a cool thing to brag about, because we both do.
But I don't want to live the rest of my
damn life in this chaos all the time. And I
have learned to create I call it equanimity. In my book,
I have a chapter on equanimity, which is to learn
to be calm under dress because I don't want stressful
situations not to be in my life. I like pressure,
I like, but it's been different chain pressure and chaos.
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Big difference. It's huge different pressure, no problem. Chaos. We're
throwing everybody else's life upside down. Also, you nailed it.
That's the problem. Think about who you admire in your life.
Take football, whoever you like. Take say Brady's your friend, right,
what do we really admire about it? It's his ability
to find equanimity or calmness under duress. So it's easy
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to throw a touchdown in the first quarter when it's
zip zip. It's a lot different when you're down to
three and this drive has to score in the Super
Bowl to play. And his ability to be calm under dress.
Whoever you admire in football, I'm just picking one guy, right, No, No,
you're right. But it's like, well, let's switch it around,
because it's almost like you're saying, like, the way I've
lived my life is I've had to start down nothing
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in every game and then the lights come on. Okay,
now I got chaos, Now I can go well, that's
not a healthy way to live, you got it. It's
not a healthy way to go, you know. And that's
what And look, I'm still learning how to like Okay,
So when I live in calm, um, I worry. It's
all I do because I don't know any other way
but to live in chaos. So that's when the roommates
in my head start talking really bad to each other.
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And that's when, right when I'm calm of a panic
attack and anxiety attack. And that's why I'm learning rules
to to understand how to exist in the blue and
the calm and not seek out the cast, because the
chaos hurts everybody else. Like I said, like, and it's
hard for me to say, but man, with my cast,
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my mental health issues, it's hard to be friends with
Jay Glazer. Me too. We both both of us have
friends that would say, hey, man, it's explains you now.
It hurts to say it though, right Like for me,
it hurts me to say it. But at the same time,
I said, man, it's hard to be friends with Jay Glazer,
But look at the people who still are, like, look
at the people who've hung in there. Those are real friends.
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Those are pall bearers. Also, the rewards of being your
friend is this loyal dude, Is this dude you can
call and go, hey, I'm in the gray, help me.
So when they're chaos is bad, I will step the
funk up. I'll give you something that's help me. I
wrote about it, and we're both tolling our books. But
so when you're when kids are little, they're usually happier
than most adults. Why is that because kids operate out
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of imagination, out of creativity, not history and memory. And
so there's two types of operating systems in life. Most
people operate out of history and memory. We're talking earlier
about our friends. If everybody around all the times like
hey man, remember remember remember you know, hey man, you
remember that party? You remember that thing? If everybody's only
doing that, and you and I have friends with great pasts,
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so we could sit around and do that all the time,
and we do a little bit. But my friends often
operate out of imagination and vision. So they've got a
great past, but they're like, hey man, here's what I'm
working on right now. You know this, Here's what I'm
working on. Here's what I'm going here's what I'm focused on.
So that For me, the chaos part of it, I've
directed it to a positive chaos. My chaos now is imagination.
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Like for you writing the book, are you creating this
content that's imaginative to some extent, it's creative. So for
my way out of the calm, I can't just sit
around on a beach and like just lay there for months.
It's just I'm never gonna be able to do that.
But what I can do is I can sit on
a beach and go, hey, man, here's what I'm working on.
Here's what I'm thinking about, Here's where I'm going, here's
my vision, here's what i'm gonna help people, Here's what
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I'm gonna create. And that allows me to not be
in the dirty chaos. It amous me to be in
the beautiful chaos. So for me, it's not escaping chaos,
it's a different version of it. Like I think that
you talked about Dwayne earlier or the Rock, he's a creative,
genius guy. He's oh and he's not in the past.
He'll look at it learn from it. But he's like, hey,
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I got Black Adam coming out, I got this, I'm
doing that, I'm doing this, And he's creating. That's a
beautiful chaos. That's a genius. And for those of you
that struggle with your mental health, here's one thing I believe.
I think Glazer has this. I think I have it.
I think I think typically people who have some sort
of mental health issues have a form of genius in
them that that is a little bit special, it's a
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little bit unique, and and they actually start to use
imagination as instead of memory and history. That chaos starts
to become a genius of imagining and creating. And that's
why I've seen most of the most brilliant people I know,
and you know, Jay struggle with some There's a few
dudes they just got their act together. And I don't
get those guys, right, I don't get those guys. But
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by the way, some of them might even be more
creative and more successful if they had a little of
this thing. We a little crazy. So for you use
it to be imagining and dreaming and envisioning, that's the
state I get into. Mhm. You kind of stopped right
there and you're saying that's the state I get into. Okay,
I force it. Okay, when did you make that decision
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to start forcing it? Because it didn't like at one
point you have to say, hey, I'm gonna do this,
how long ago and how long did it take you
to do that? And I'm asking you because I'm trying
to learn right now exactly what took me a couple
of years of like permanently being able to get into it.
But where it came from was my dad. My dad
got sober j and I said, hey, Dad, are you
never gonna drink again? And my dad says, I can't
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promise you that, man, I can tell you this. I'm
not gonna drink for one more day. And that ended
up being one more day. The rest of my dad's
life was one more day. And I would ask my dad,
go how do you keep it away? How do you
keep it away? And he goes, well, I can't sit
around and try not to think about not drinking. That
don't work. I said, so what do you think about?
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And he goes, I just imagine, I dream? What do
I want to work on? What do I want to build?
Where am I going to my career? What do I
want to take the family? What book should I be reading?
What think? What? What part of my body am I
working on? So he's like, because you and I have
both said to each other, man, one of my ways
out is if I can move my body, that's our
one trick, pony. But for my dad, he's like, it
wasn't just moving my body, it was moving my imagination.
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It's moving this And I went, Dad, you're kidding me.
So the way you're not drinking isn't just like trying
not to drink, trying not to be in the gray.
He's like, of course not. I'm imagining and I'm creating.
So it's my dad was a banker. It's not like
my dad at the like unbelieving on an artist or
a singer right or on TV just a guy. Right.
But my Dad's like, yeah, man, I'm just envisioning, Like
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what when when the next year looked? Like where am
I going? What do I want to be? Who could
I help? Also not drink? And so my dad started
to really get into his program of helping other people
with their sobriety. And so my dad's pathway out was
think about it, Jay. My dad was once an alcoholic
and no longer was that qualified him to help the
person he used to be. That became a superpower, that
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became it and he would imagine different ways of doing it,
in different ways of communicating, and different ways of getting
up at the meeting and saying, Hi, I'm ed, I'm
an alcoholic, and and he would create and he goes
that fills the chaos in my brain that would have
otherwise caused me to drink. That's where I learned it. Yeah,
that's beautiful. And again that's why I want people to
really hear that loud and clear. What you think has
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made you funked up in the past and you've overcome
it is really your superpower, Bingo. It's your superpower. And
even if, like if you had health issues, it didn't
break you. You came through the other side of that tunnel.
You could apply that knowledge that you have that strength
to other areas of your life. I got a guy
that I love whose son has some form of he's
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on the spectrum a little bit autistically, Okay. They brought
him to all these different teachers to help him with
his learning disabilities. They all were wonderful and good people.
Then he finally has a teacher now who's completely changed him.
And you know what the difference was this teachers on
the spectrum. Also, this teacher has a scotch of autism
when they were a kid, that teachers most qualified to
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help this little boy who's got the same condition. There's
just a relatability when you have a similar pain of somebody,
an energy connection that's on our souls and our spirits
that you can't put into words. But when Jay Glazer
talks about being in the gray, if you're in the gray,
you feel something in your your spirit. He's not motivating you,
he's inspiring, he's touching your spirit. There's just some energy
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transfer when there's a shared pain that you can't replicate
any other way. So that pain is not just a
little bit of a gift, It is the actual thing
man that will help you. You don't know this, but
my first career out of college, I played college baseball
and I got hurt and appro ended a career that
would have ended anyway. I have a business major. I
can't find a job. I worked at an orphanage bro
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my boys. I worked at McKinley Home for boys. My
boys were all eight to ten years old. I'm not
a psychologist. I don't have any kids of my own.
What the heck qualified me to work with these boys?
My boys, their parents were dead, incarcerated, or had molested them.
What did I have in common with these boys? Shared
childhood pain? And there was something about my being, my
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spirit that they knew I saw them, they knew I
got them. Of all the millions of dollars I've made, bro,
my favorite time of my career was making six dollars
and eighty cents an hour at McKinley Home for Boys.
With my boys, I took them to school, I took
them trick or treating. I was their father, the twenty
two years old. Yes, but I got placed there and
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I belonged there without any of the degrees, without any
children of my own. But I got these eyes man
of a kid was neglected and they had them, and
somehow that energy on my soul and my spirit they felt.
That's what glazers got. When it comes to mental health,
you can't explain it, but you feel something because he
is going through what you've gone through. So any of
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you listening to this, that's your superpower, like literally, energetically, spiritually,
it's your superpower. Man. That's that's that is so beautiful.
That's again the thing is how are you of service?
Like we gotta be a service. And here you are
and you're probably seeing they're going funck. Life sucks. Now
you look back and life was great, it was incredible.
I was like your while, it's not an antidepressant, that
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is yes. I'm like, man, my dream ended, Baseball's over.
I don't know what I want to do. I can't
find a freaking job. Oh great, six dollars and eighty
cents an hour? What is this ship? And I walk
in and it changed my life? And here's what's nuts, Jay,
You know I got the job. You're gonna love how
the universe connects things. I got the job because I'm
back at my old man's house. I'm living on in
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the same bed I grew up in. My dad gets sober,
goes to his first a A meeting, comes back and goes,
I got your excuse because I got your fucking job.
I go, well, what is it? He goes, you don't
get the fucking pick you're eating out of my fridge.
Get your house down there tomorrow. And what it was
was this dude I got. I show up there. I go, hey,
I'm here for the job. What is I don't even
know what it is? They go, I go, the guy's
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names Tim. My dad met him. They're like, they got
three Tims at work. Here. I go, well, my dad
met him at an a meeting and they go, oh,
drunk Tim, that's kind of go to it's a but
what isn't amazing that my dad's drinking prepared me to
help the boys, and my dad making the decision to
get sober, had him meet Tim, who got me the
job with these boys. It's amazing. That's the universe conspires
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to help us. It's for us, it's not against us.
When you have a mental health struggles, it's hard to
think that it's it's your your victim. Like for me,
I'm always like, man, universe against me? Why am I
so on loves? Why am I a lovable It's not
The universe conspires to help us. Now one was against us.
We just gotta figure out, Okay, why do we have
certain pain and how would he how do we use that? Pan?
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Tell Bus it's exactly what you and I both do.
And it was working there Bro that I was like,
I think I like this helping people think better than business.
So if I'm gonna build businesses, they have to have
one qualifier. They gotta help humans otherwise I don't want
to do them, and that sort of started this journey
of little that I know. I'm in there with eight
boys that are eight years old, and I'm helping them
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change their life. Little do I know that. Okay, now
I'm speaking in front of eighty thousand like because of that.
Heck would have thought they change your life all the
way around. It changed my life, and this is I'm
watching it change yours. Dude. A guy comes up to
me Friday and tells me that he's gonna take a
helicopter into a mountain and he hears you on my show,
and what is it? Eight months six months later, he's
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at this event living his dream life. It's incredible, incredible, credible.
It's like, man, I've done a lot of cool stuff
in life. You've done a lot of cool stuff in life.
There is nothing like you saw it. You said the story.
I cried. I don't get used to it. I got
used to being on TV. I got used to the
accolades like I used to fame and all. I don't
get used to hearing man, you saved my life. I
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hope I never do right. It's just it's beautiful, and
I hope you don't. I hope the same thing, like
you got so excited to tell the story. I hope
you understand too what you're doing for the world. Man
and they say, hey, if you help one, like Dwayne
will constantly hit me up and go, hey, just remember
it's if you help one, because he doesn't want me
putting pressure on myself. I'm not helping him, and I'll
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do that. I'm not helping enough from now, but enough,
I haven't reached enough people. I haven't helped enough people.
And I'll get down to myself. No, no, no, no,
you help one. And he just constantly reminds me of that.
What a great friend, and help you that advice that's
good for me to hear. By the way to yes,
because people too often we start we compare ourselves. Hey,
we compare ourselves to everybody else, but be we start
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comparing ourselves to what we don't have instead of what
we already have. And we've done so fucking much. If
little Ed or little Jay said, hey, you're gonna do this, this, this,
we would say, just where we are in our lives
right now, we tell that to little kid and us
a little kid, go, do we really do that? What
are you serious? Instead, you and I compare ourselves. We
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haven't done enough, but enough, It's got to be enough.
So Dwayne will remind me, Hey, you hope about one.
That's why you started this and it and it checks me,
makes me check myself every once in a while. Please
please keep you. I will remind you. I remind you
before I let you go. I know we've gone way
way over. Um, so I appreciate you. I don't know
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if you have any more time. I just want one
more question. And I'm loving this, man. I love you.
Give me your unbreakable moment, a moment in life that
could have broken you almost did but didn't, and you
came through the other side of that tunnel. Yeah. I
was an entrepreneur, really in my career and I was
running out of money and I had to go to
the I remember I was in l A. I'm driving
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a Honda cr X. I'll never forget this, and Uh,
I pull up to this appointment. I do my little
pitch in their house. They say no, I come out
and they had broken into my car and uh that
was the days where they would steal car stereos. You know,
if you had a ken Wood or an album. Right, Well,
I had a san you know, so I'm like, what
the hell they breaking into my car board? This freaking
criminal stole my passenger seat. Now, dude, like, you gotta
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be a passenger seat and furniture. It's true story. You
gotta be a very specific criminal to be in the
market for a passenger seat of a Honda freaking CRX.
And I remember, just like, dude, this is the lowest
point in my life. I got this shitty car, I
got no money. I don't know if I have enough
gas to get back to where I live. And I
remember I ended up putting a rock there where my
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buddy could sit on it. You drive back and we're
going to the A T M. And I'm praying, bro,
I'm praying, I hope I got twenty one bucks into
this count because only spent out twenty dollars to get gas.
Please let me have twenty one bucks on there. And
I go to put my coat in and it won't
spit the twenty out in sufficient money. Now I don't
have the money to get back, and I literally was
at the gas station and I begged for money. I
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begged you money, I said, I was walking up to
people saying, hey, listen, I'm sorry to bother you. I'm
stuck here in l A. Someone broke into my car.
There's the seat that's missing, and no one would give
me money. I'm there like two hours, and finally this
guy's like, well, how much do you need to get back.
I'm like, man, if you give me the ten dollars,
you give me your name, I will get you the
money back. This dude gives me the ten bucks and
I get back and I called my dad and I say, hey,
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I'm I'm out, I'm out, I'm gonna I'm I'm quitting.
I'm out of here. And my dad, who I had
already asked many times, are you never gonna drink again?
With sec I'd say, Dad, are you never gonna drink again?
And he would always say, I can't promise you that.
But I told you I'm not gonna drink for one
more day. And I said, so I'm quittin man, I
got no money. It's my dad goes, hey, man, you
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know you don't you don't have to decide you're never
gonna quit. Just don't quit for one more day. Just
don't quit the one more day. And I woke up
the next day and I'm like, I don't feel like
quitting quite as much, you know, money that day. And
the third day my dad called me, he goes you
all right, and I go, I don't even have the
ten bucks to send this guy back. My dad wasn't
one of these dudes like hey, I'll help you. He's
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just like hey, he goes, well, hanging there, man, just
don't quit for one more day. And the sixth day,
I landed a pretty damn good account back in those days,
and I was able to send the guy that ten
bucks back, and that led to mean at that time,
about two years later, I'm making a million year and
blah blah blah blah blah. But it was the moment
of me deciding, in my most down, dark moment of
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just don't quit for today. And I think that that's
a metaphor for every area of life, like just don't
quit today, Just don't quit today, Just don't give in today.
Just don't give up today, and for the rest of
my life. Man, it's now like thirty some odd years later.
Many times my backs went up against the wall and
I'm like, you know what, I just ain't gonna quit
for today, and that serves me really, really well in
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my life. And thank god I didn't quit, because I've
helt millions of people and I've been able to do
this with you, and I was millimeters bro And by
the way, would have been justified in quitting. The same
person would have quit the same Glazer after nine years
and we're like, it's a working eight years after five years.
Just remember this. Unrealistic people rule the world. Remember this.
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Everybody weird, rich and I mean rich, emotionally, rich in friendships,
rich in money, and normal poor. I think everybody's always
thinking I want to be normal. I know you thought this.
I wish I was just more normal. As I'm fifty
one years old, I don't want ship to do with
being normal. I like being weird. I like being unrealistic.
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I like being different. I like my weirdness. And you
know what, most of the people I'm around, including Glazer,
we're all a little bit cook. We're all a little
bit weird. And I like being weird. And thank god
I didn't quit that day, And thank god I'm a
little weird. And if you've got a little weird in you,
you probably got a better chance of having a rich
life than if you were normal. Screw normal, man, I
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got a hashtag, motherfucker I'm different. Yeah, it was good,
different leads of success. Yeah. I try and tell people
all the time in our combat bets all the time
and our charities, don't be a face in the crowd,
be the fucking proud, be your own crowd. Absolutely. Yeah,
I am fucking different, and too many of us try it,
just trying to just fit in. Yeah, no, let's not
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fit in. Don't conformity. Conforming to the norm is the
ultimate forum of cowardice. You want to be like everybody else,
that's coward It takes courage to be different, could be different,
courage to be scary. Yes, you damn right. It is scary. Absolutely,
Cowardice is cowardice is conformity so great unbelieved. Yeah, we
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can go. I'm gonna listen. You gotta have me back
on your podcast that Many Lives. I'm gonna have you
back on this one again. Let's just keep doing it
because it's just man, just still here from people that
we've lifted them up. Man, I'm out to be your friend.
I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Give me
that forum to do what I've been meant to do. Yeah,
And I appreciate you, man. I just want you to
(52:08):
know that I'm really really I love you man, and
do anything I can ever do. You're coming back on
I'll come back on here. Anything. Anybody listening today, I'm
in Tell people again. Hey, tell us where we can
see you, where we could read you, where we could
find you. Everything. Yeah, anything that says ed my Let
E D M y l E T T Instagram, my podcast,
my book whatever. The podcast was called the Ed my
Lett Show. TV show is called TV shows called Change
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with ed my Let You can get it in the
link in my bio on Instagram. Great, and the book
is called the Power of One More love it man,
how about that number one selling book this year. I
gotta catch up, ship, bro. I love you man, appreciate
your grateful for you
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome in everybody to Unbreakable, a
mental health podcast with Jay Glazer. I am Jay Glazier,
and I am really really excited about today's guest because
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when I first started talking about my mental health and
when I when I was very open about it, I
got a call from this guy and he said, Man,
I want you to start sharing your story with the world.
And and his audience is huge. His audience is so big,
and I'm a little jealous here. His book, The Power
of One More is the number one book of all
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books this year and only came out in June, so
he sold six hundred thousand copies. Um. Just incredible human being,
a really really good friend. He's on a t V.
He has a TV show now called Change with Ed
my Lett, which brings us to our guest and my luck.
How are you, brother? Man, It's so good to be
with you speaking about when you were on my show.
I've done four shows. I've never had a reaction close
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to the one that you and I had together. Man,
we still every brother every single week to this day,
we keep getting messages about that show. Not just lives
that you changed, as you know because you know this,
but lives you actually saved that hour that we spent
together on the show. It makes me actually, just as
I said i'd expect, it makes me emotional because they're
actually were live saved by what you did on the
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show that day. So I'm super honored to be with you, brother,
So thank you for having me. What what wasn't? Why
do you? Because I also same thing. All of a
sudden people started reaching and I had been very open
about it before the book. I wanted to I don't
I don't want to wait from Breakable the book to
come out to be able to help change life and
save lives and lifting and power. So I started doing
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it on my social media. But man, the reaction I
got on your show, like you're saying, what was it? Like?
What did we do? Tell me what I did? What
we did that made it your most powerful show? Yeah?
I didn't. I didn't do anything you did. Um I
think no, no, no, you're a big part of it, brother. Show. Well,
I've done fun of them, so somehow yours was different.
So I have the one thing every show was in
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common is me and the one thing that was different
about this one is you. So but I will tell
you I think it's your vulnerability. At first, it's the topic.
More and more people are starting to feel like, hey,
I can talk about the fact that I struggle with
my mental health. Somewhere on the spectrum of it right
all the way from you know, there's suicidal and they
have those super great days like you talk about all
the way down to hey, man, I just worried too much.
I have too much fear, I have too much anxiety.
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There's a spectrum of it. I think your vulnerability and
your willingness to say for from two things one year
public person. So that's rare. It's one thing if no
one knows you and you're like, hey, I want to
share that I'm hurting and this is what I'm going
through and this is how I found my path. It's
another thing when, to some extent, you take a risk.
At first you did, it was a risk to say, hey,
this is something i've been dealing with. Right. That took
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massive courage for you to do. So I think that's
part of it. And then not balnestly, there's something about
like a hyper masculine man saying hey man, I'm just
gonna be real with you. You You know what, I'm not
always strong all the time. And I think that contrast
between sort of your public persona of this very well
known dude who's around masculine people all the time and
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he's an alpha in the room himself and just saying,
hey man, this is who I really am, this is
what I'm hurting with, this is what I'm dealing with,
and this is how I found my way out. When
I find my way out, the last part of it
was it wasn't like everything's fine and now I'm fixed.
It was more like, hey, I'm still on this journey,
come with me, and we'll do it together. And I
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think that together piece, all of those things converged to
just do something magic when you were on the show,
and I'm super grateful for it, but I think that's
what it was. Yeah, you know, look how Sam fucked
up and I'm learning to be good with my funked upness.
How just say I'm sucked up and I'm good with
my funk dumbness. And I recently correct myself, I'm like,
that's not true. I'm not good with my funked up
this I'm learning how to be and I've I've always
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used it to my adventage. It turns out so like
my depression of my anxiety, my mental health issues that
motivated me to go do all these great things. You also,
you're a master motivator. This is what you do right,
and it all comes also for you. The ability to
go build people up from the inside out. Yeah, when
did you realize that you have? I guess kind of
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that special gift if you will. Well, I just believe
people can change because my dad did. So. It's it's
not anything about me, man, it really isn't. My dad
was an alcoholic drug addict first fifteen years of my
life and just a bad dude. Wasn't a good husband,
wasn't a good dad. I was afraid of my dad
like I was afraid of him, and he changed. He
made one decision. That's why I called a book the
Power of One. When he made one decision, tried to
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get sober one more time. And I just have this.
The Bible says, hey, where there's no vision, the people
will perish. No matter what your faith is, people have
a vision. I said, you want to be happy or sad,
because I want to be happy, you want to be
rich or poor? Most people say I want to be rich.
Said do you want to have unbelievable contribution to make
a difference in your life or don't make any difference?
They say, I want to make a difference. So people
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have a vision. Their issue is it's depth perception. It's
how far away they think it is. And because they
think it's always so far away, they act in accordance
with this belief system that it's years and years and
years away. But what if that's a lie? What if
the truth is the next step in your life is
one decision away, one meeting, one new thought, one new emotion,
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one podcast. I call it you never know what lies
around next Tuesday. That's saying that you just say, I
say it's one more and so now there's a part
of your brain called the r A s. It's the
filter that reveals the world to you. If you start
to live with the expectation, Hey man, I'm I'm one
decision away, I'm next tuesday away, I'm a meetingum And
you proved it. You've struggled with this for years, You've
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talked about it privately, but you finally made a decision.
I'm going to write a book about this, and I'm
gonna start to talk about this. This completely shifted why
you're notoriety matters. You're notoriety now that's it saves and
changes lives. Right, So for me, I watched my dad change.
So that's number one, and then number two. I have
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never tried to be a motivator or inspire of people
that won't. Motivations empty. It's like a warm bath. It
feels really good, then it's gone. I try to be inspirational.
The root of inspirational, the word is to be in spirit,
means to touch someone in their heart right. The only
way you touch someone in your heart, brother, is that
you are willing to reveal your imperfections. You want to
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impress me, show me how perfect you are. You want
to help me, reveal your imperfections to me. And so
for me, I'm all about these are my imperfections. These
are the things I've done to make them less imperfect.
You probably have some of them too. And then that
as to me saying I'm funked up and good fun.
I don't brag about my successes. I brag about my scars.
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We all got scars, and my scars of what makes
me different? My scars what allows me to walk in
every room and say I like the rest of you
in here. And that's what I try and get people
to do is be proud of this. Almost broke you
and didn't should not allowed to use that to build
you up? And why does that matter? Because if we
can grow in life from where we are, why is
there always I'm always about growth? Like why do you
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want to grow? Some people like I don't want to grow?
I like where I am? Why do you want to grow?
Why do you want to show your scars? I do too?
And I think that anyone listening to this, they wouldn't
be listening if they didn't. Right, here's the hook in life.
Never forget this. Everybody Jay's proving it. I think I
prove it in life. You were most qualified to help
the person you used to be. So in life and
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I don't. I don't want you to throw this away. Well,
I can say this again, and I want us to
get this. In life, you are most capable and qualified
to help the person you used to be. So if
you used to only live in the gray almost all
the time, and now you find a way to live
in the gray only some of the time. You're now
qualified to help those people that are still living in
the gray every day. If you used to be poor
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or used to be broke and you're no longer broke,
you're now qualified to help broke people. If you use
to be broken as a person and now you're slightly
less broken, you're qualified to help broken people. And so
in life we grow because that next version of us
that we change into, we can now help those people
back where we used to be. And that's why there's
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that's why we have heroes like your friend DJ Dwane Johnson.
When if so many people look up to Dwyane, I
think it's because he's also a big vulnerable dude, because
I don't have made this money man, my relationship my
dad was a certain way, I've had these insecurities. He's
most qualified to help all those people he used to be.
I'm most qualified to help who I used to be.
Jay Glazer, is anybody listening to this? So the irony
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is the very things that you think in life disqualify
you from winning or being happy are the actual things
qualifying you, The things you're most ashamed of your like, yeah,
my divorce, my bankruptcy, my mental health, my scar on
my faith, my mental scars, I'm disqualified from having a
great life, don't lie. Those are actually the qualifiers. If
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you grow and if you change now, you can help
all those people who suffer from the same things. And
you know, you say, right there, help okay, because one
of the pillars in my book of how to get
through the grade is being of service. And being a
service doesn't mean you have to go serve in the military,
or um you have to go start your own charity
or anything like that. Being of service could simply be
that you're helping, you're helping somebody else. And I love
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what you say here because we all have again, we
all have scars we've been through, so we all have ways.
You know. I gave a speech recently and it was
two a room of clinicians, and it was like seventi
five clinicians, and I said, you're all here qualified to
talk about this because of your schooling. I'm qualified to
talk about it because my suffering just exactly what you're saying, though,
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my suffering gives me the ability to communicate, not my schooling,
because I fucking sucked at school. It's terrible at school. Man.
I got kicked out of my first school and after
my first semester, and I was a remedial English. My
A d D was a man. It was terrible. So
it ain't my schooling, but my suffering gives me that education.
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Were you I'm just super I've always want to ask
you this, How afraid were you to start sharing this?
Because you do have a high profile career. Were you
afraid heym cost me something? Any of that ever could
concerned you? Know? It? Never did you know? Whenever somebody says, men,
you're so brave or so courageous, I don't look at
it that way. I looked at like it was something
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I should do this. You should do this. If you
can help one person, you should do this. There was
never a question of not. I think also the fact
that I have been as dudely as you get, like,
no one's question of my manhood. So I cried a
lot on your podcast. I don't have to worry about
somebody calling me to fucking woods because I have stepped
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into a cage with the BENI sons of bitches we've
ever lived, and I've lost a lot, and I've won
a lot, and I've gotten choked out and knocked out,
and man, I've had a bunch of surgeries and I've
wrestled hundreds of football players when I started that m
am athletics program. And so as a result of that,
I don't ever worry about someone questioning my manhood. I'm
so secure in that way that I look at it
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and said, man, if I'm not helping someone, I'm being selfish. Yeah,
you even worry, you ever worry. I've worried about this
for me where I said, Hey, I'm the son of
an alcohol like, I know what it's like to have
all that. You said, Hey, man, I live in the
gray so many mornings when I wake up, and sometimes
was concerned that it's not become my identity. Though so
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so I've I've I've I've not allowed it to define me.
It's kind of like even retired athletes. You've seen this before,
like I'm an NFL football player, I'm an UFC fighter,
and then when that's gone, like, who the heck am I?
It's what's behind your rib cage that makes you special? Yes,
And I worry sometimes that as you and I are,
we're both probably the two most like two of the
most vulnerable people that maybe sometimes guys go, well, that's
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gonna be my new thing. I'm gonna wear this bag.
I'm hurting, I'm I suffer I this and they don't
and understand the other piece of it, which is to
be working on your way out of it. That's the story.
Isn't that my dad was an alcoholic and it was bad,
or that I had I'm easily. I lacked self confidence
and got down. The story isn't just the ja'son the gray.
It's that he's trying to win the day when he's
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in the gray. Right, I'm gonna tell you a great
story which involves you. Okay, I met some friends who
live here in scotstel because of the podcast with you,
and they're just they're huge fans of yours and they're like,
oh my god, you just the same thing, Like you
changed our lives. You gave us hope that there's a
way out of the gray to the blue, and you know,
we've been friends for a little while after that, and
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one night the two of them had to talk with me, Okay,
my friend Jen, my friend Jane, and then the Rock
had the same message the next day, and it was
do you think that your brand has become living in
the gray? Yeah? And I said, well, well yeah. They
said no, no, yes, you gave us hope to get
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to the blue. We need your brand to be in
the blue. And they said, we feel like you almost
feel guilty, like survivors guilt if you left the gray.
And I said, yeah, I feel like I'm turning my
back to those people with the gray. And Jennifer said, no,
I need you to continue to give us hope. That
there's what I'm about star crying right now, but I
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need you to continue to give us hope for all
of us that we can get to the blue. We
need you to think that you could live in the
blue and worry about pulling people up to the blue.
Not that you're abandoning the people in the gray. You're
a bend in them if you stay there. That thing,
by the way, is prevalent in every area of growing
in your life. That is so amazing you've said that, man,
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because I've watched a lot of people almost break the
poverty cycle in their life and become wealthy, or break
the mental cycle, or they've been crappy relationships all their
buddies are and now they found it and they're like,
they feel like they're leaving their buddies behind when they
grow you know, they're they like and a lot of
them the old analogy of the crabs in the bucket,
(14:03):
where they pull each other back down into the bucket. Right.
Sometimes that's why it's important, if you do live in
the gray often to have some friends that live in
the blue a lot, because if you're just around all
your friends that live in the gray, sometimes you're pulling
each other back down into the bucket. And oftentimes for me,
there's just a few friends of mine that helped me
get out of when I'm in the gray as well.
That and I can relate to them because they also
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live in the gray. And so yeah, that survivor's guilt
is a I deal with a lot of athletes with that.
What they'll say, Man, Jay, these dudes who tell me
that I've changed and money changes me, I'm going and
I go, you know what, the right you are going
to change and money does change you? And did these
white parties are way better than wearing white and black stripes.
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I tell these guys all the time, Damn right, money
changes you, and you know I kind of look at life.
Just because you're with me for the first twenty doesn't
give you the right to be with me for the
next sixty. If you're not gonna power me, you got
they're gonna lift me up. I think great, let's lift
each other together. So I said, we walked this walk together.
If you're pulling me down, we're not walking this walk.
You're pulling my ask downwards? Well, how do you define
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that too? And and it's so good. I love our conversation.
I want to put this on my podcast. So but
how how do you just find it? How do you
define it? And it's and I wrote this in the
whole chapter in the book. It's the art of loyalty.
It's a dying art. It's win win. Like you and
I are relationship. We don't even shift from each other.
I care about you, You care about me. I think
about things. Hey man, hey, somebody just called about you
(15:30):
recently and I was like, oh my god, let me
tell you about it. Give you the most incredible thing
which I knew was gonna help you in business. You
don't even know that's what that's what people do. How
could we help each other how do your friends talk
about you behind your back when you're not in the room?
And are they trying to pump you up to anybody
and everybody when you're not in the room, When you're
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not when you don't have to ask for it, that's
who you want to be around. But that's how I
live my life. I live my life, and you do
live your life like that. I live my life. Let's
get sound a little more, but but I live my
life like I'm going to be everyone's Paul Bearer. Now,
let me let me makexplain the only got what do
you have? Like six six to ten people whatever they
call they carry your coping out. Those are the sixty
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ten most loyal people in your life. So I treat
everybody like I'm gonna be there, Paul Bearrow like that.
Loyal loyalty is my brand. And if I can get
ten percent of the people in my life to treat
me back the same way, I got a pretty damn
good little crew. That's so good. And you know what,
I think we all think everybody else is gonna die.
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I don't think you know, I think it's okay to
contemplate the end of your life like Napoleon Hill saysn't
thinking with the goal, begin with the end in mind.
It's okay to do your life like at the end
of your life. Ultimately, who do you want to have become?
I think about that a lot, Yeah, I do. I
think it's healthy. I think a lot of people do.
What do I want to have done? What kind of
man do I want to become? What do I want
my relationships? What emotions do I have? Want to have
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felt in my life? I'll give you a reason why.
About three weeks ago, I'm watching Netflix. I'm watching The
Specialist Guy David A. Arnold, brilliant comedian. It's the number
one special on Netflix. Kevin Hart produced it, and I'm like,
I just love this dude. He's amazing And at the
end of it it wasn't just it wasn't just comedy.
He also did like inspirational stuff about how he made
it in his career. Right, I'm just moved by this
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man at the and he brought his wife and his
two daughters out, and then at the end of that
then there's a documentary on his dad's and his mom.
It was amazing. So I voiced text the dude on
Instagram Hey, David, my name is Ed. My let I
got a big podcast. I'll love to have you on.
Three seconds later, Jay goes, man, I'm a cute this
at my left my wife and I love you. My
sister is the big I'll come on. He goes. I said, well,
(17:36):
I got an opening next Tuesday. Listen to this. He says,
I got an opening next tuesday. He's fifty four years old,
beautiful family. I got an opening next tuesday. He goes, Oh, man,
I'm shooting a movie in Atlanta. I go, okay. He goes, no,
you don't let man. I want to be on so bad.
I'll take the red Eye back from the movie set.
I'll land it six, I'll do your show. I'll jump
back on the airplane and go back to the movie set.
I'm like, wow, does the show amazing show? And it
(17:57):
really does well. And he messed me, bro I'm getting
blown up. The audience is huge. Wednesday morning, he's like, Ed,
I don't know what's going on, but like I can't
get to all these messages. He sends me this video
like ninety I said, brother, they love you because it's
so inspirationally, so talented. That was He died what he died, Jay,
(18:18):
What he passed away? Forty five minutes ish after he
sent me the video. Fifty four years old, in great shape,
wife and two beautiful thirteen year old and eleven year
old little girl Spechelon Netflix, Number one show on Nickelodeon, Amazing,
career momentum, wonderful, amazing man gone gone, and so we
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all live like everyone else is gonna die. It's okay
in life sometimes Ago, who do I want to be
at the end of this thing? What are the emotions
I want to have? But look at the gift you
gave him for and I hope you realize that for
you like that you were able to listit, this response
from of love that he gets to see as the
last things he's seeing that it's beautiful. And look, I
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I think we just rent these bodies, but the souls
live on forever. A man. He's still going through the messages.
But one other thing too for me about the beginning
of the end, contemplating the enemy, tell you why. A
lot of times I'll ask myself, whatever is hurting me
right now? Right like it's a major horrible thing. Is
this really gonna matter when I'm gone? Right? Is this right,
don't matter, what's the what the reason? When ed mind
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let gets real gray a lot. Sometimes I have no
idea why. I like you, don't. I love that you're
willing to say that. Sometimes I just wake up and
I have it right. But I also have some patterns
that I learned from my old man, and some of
them are I just worry. I like magnify things, and
I'll make some small stuff seem like end of the
universe stuff even to this day. I got hundreds of
millions of bucks, I got a great wife, I got
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a great family, I got great friends. And I'll wake
up some days like just worked up, and the only
thing that gets me out of it often was like,
is this really gonna matter when I'm gone? Like? What
is it? How big a deal is this really? And
what do you say? You you make a point to stop,
yes the cost the spiraling down, and say to yourself,
will this matter when I'm gone? I try to change
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the context, right, because what I do is I magnified
in the moment, I can't see anything, but it it's
like a tunnel, you know this, when we get down,
there's that starts to happen, right, And I just try
to get out of the tunnel by getting above it,
and I'll go, does this really matter? Really? Twenty years
from now, five years fro now, if I was to
die tomorrow, does this really matter? And it helps give
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me some peace about the context of it. So that's
why I do it. Man, Just absolutely incredible. That's so,
when did you realize at what point did you go, Man,
I I'm able to help a lot of people, And
when did you start seeing um? Because because people think,
you know, they see you're super successful now, but we
all have to Like, for me, it took eleven years
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for me to get a full time pitcheck. It was
far away from me from my success. But every single
week I thought that next Tuesday would be the week
I made it. So it allowed me to go through
the eleven years of rejection. And I want people to
understand that my overnight success was eleven years. Okay, how
was the overnight success? Tell me how you know your
journey of when you realize, man, I could have a
big voice to help people. Yeah, I wonder if I'm
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even realized that now, Like I still have a hard
time accepting the fact that I'm I still struggle with that. Dude,
I always think this makes sound crazy. I still think
something this could go away tomorrow. You know that keeps
me focused and sure that I do. I have a
little bit of that, like it could go away. I
don't ever really feel like I'm there. But the rock
still thinks he's gonna be broken next week and that's
seven bucks in his pocket. Yeah, I do too. I'm
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the same exact way. But I think that on the
other side of temporary pain, if you can survive the temporary,
you meet another version of yourself. I just believe this.
So whatever you're going through, it's temporary, and if you
can remember, if you can survive it, you can do
a side. You meet another part of you. I've been
able to be pretty successful with like not that much talent.
I'm not like uh high i Q I'm not I'm
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not six four. I'm okay looking, but I ain't Brad Pitt.
You know, like I've been able to I've been done
well in with two skills. Here's what they are. Number One,
I love people and I'm I'm present when I'm with people,
Like I love him and I believe in him. Yeah,
I K I got get a get better with that. Yeah,
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I'm just I'm good at that, and then too, I'm
a good talker. What does that come from? Five years old?
My dad's an alcoholic. Well, my dad would come through
that front door, man, I had to read him, and
if he was drunk, I had to get my three
sisters upstairs and tell my mom, go take a shower,
and I'd be down there with this dude and I
had to read him when he come through them five. Man,
I'm reading this man is how's his tie tiede? What's
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his breath like? How's he slurring his words? How's he walking?
If he's sober, we're aving dinner, We're good. If he's drunk, Mimi,
get enter an eric upstairs. Mom, waa, go take a shower.
And I would be left downstairs with this man at
five and six years old, and I'd read him. And
once I could read him, then I had to talk.
And I try to try to get him away from
the liquor cabinet jay because my dad was gonna throw
back eight beef eater Jin's man, bam bam, bam bam.
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I thought every dad did that, and I grab his hands,
Hey dad, Daddy, I got I look up and I'm
scared of him. I got a ninety three on my
spelling test. Dad, I had to Jackson baseball. I try
to talk to me. You did. And if I could
get him over the couch and I could talk to
him for like an hour, heat, sober up, and bad
stuff wouldn't happen if I didn't do it. You don't
want to know what would happen. And little did I
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know what was happening, man was I was surviving this
temporary pain. I was developing the two skills that I
would use to change millions of other people's lives and
make hundreds of millions of dollars in business because I
survived this temporary pain. A lot of times in life
when you're going through pain, realized it will be temporary,
and on the other side of it, you're gonna meet
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some element of you that you didn't have before. And
that's what's happened to you. Years of pain, years of
this pain, and finally to get a little bit to
the other side. Sometimes you've discovered this voice in you
that's a different voice. It's not just the sports voice.
It's not the M M. A voice, it's not the
coach voice. This different voice. It's this. Frankly, it's a
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healing voice, and you've discovered it only because of your pain.
I'm only great with people and a good communicator because
of that pain. So there is some extent that cross
I bared, that cross you bared, the cross someone's bearing
that's listening to this is the actual thing that's going
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to uncover elements of you that are going to change
other people's lives. That's what makes us magical, right, the pain.
And in my book, and I say this now, for years, man,
I just felt cursed with depression anxiety. And now because
of this, because of the reaction of your show, reaction
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of people of the podcast when I post her the book,
now for the first time, I feel like God bless
me with depression anxiety. And that's a powerful, really powerful
shift from being a victim to being powerful and to
be able to use something to help others. I mean,
we're here to be of service to everybody else, right,
And that was a that for me, was a really
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big healing moment. And I still get angry that I'm
that I feel this way, that I wake up, that
I woke up Friday crying for no reason whatsoever, and
I couldn't get out of it, and I did everything
I was supposed to do to get out of it.
So does it suck, Yeah, fucking sucks. But now I
have a hy like man. This was a blessing to
help so many others and moms and dads and grandparents
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and husbands and wives and sons and daughters. It's just
been beautiful. What has been the one or two messages
if you have gotten that has really lifted you up? Well,
one of the one's about you, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
so this one's you. I just give you the one
because it's you. So I had a really busy this
last week. I had five speaking engagements in five states
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and four days. And um, one of them was a
really unique one. I spoke at this big thing in Dallas.
I had to fly to Salt Lake City and this
event was at this dude's house. And it's all real
masculine male influencers, like real big dudes, dudely dude, dudely dude,
like the dude lest of the dude ly dudes. And
so I spoke and uh spoke in this guy's living room.
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Actually it was really an interesting experience. So it's like
a Hunter people there. I speaking these dudes living room
and I'm just getting all fired up because it's men,
so I can get real alpha and I'm done, and
you know, people come up and now we're just smoking
cigars and drinking some tequila and whiskey around the deal,
being even more dudely right, and I'm I'm real dudely
after about five of these whiskey and ELA's right. And
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so anyway, this guy, this guy's got a helicopter there.
He's like, hey, you wanna take a helicopter? Right, it's
at night, and only because I'm in these whiskeys and tequilas,
I'm like, yeah, let's go. So we get in this helicopter.
I take a ride at night around Salt Lake City.
I'm scared shitless and we land and I get off
the helicopter and probably the dude leest dude that's there
is waiting for me when I get off the helicopter
and he's crying. This is just Friday, bro. He's crying
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pretty heavy and he's kind of trying to hold the
he's kind of white in his face with the tears,
and he goes this, man, I want to tell you something.
You change my life. And I'm like, thank you so much,
because no, man, I've been listening to you for years.
Like I can't even tell him a better husband and
better father. And then as we're walking, he goes, can
we just get a private minute? And we're in the
dark in this guy's yard. There's no lights. It's kind
of weird at first, and then he goes, um, how
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well do you know j Glazer? And I go, I've
got to know Jay pretty well. Man. He goes, please
tell me he's real, and I go, bro like the
realist man like is the type of dude that'll just
send you a message like, hey man, I love you,
I'm thinking about you, I care about you. You know,
he's a real He's a real dude. This dude just starts.
He's not now tearing, he's like pouring water and he goes,
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I just want you to know, man, that you changed
my life. But Glazer saved my life. And he said, uh.
He goes, he said that helicopter you were just on.
He goes, I have one, and not that one. I
have one, and he said, um, for about three days,
I was having these fantasies almost about running my helicopter
into that mountain and he points set the mountain. I
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was gonna take my helicopter into that mountain. I wanted
to end it. And I don't know why. I wanted
it to be dramatic. And I kept thinking about my
wife and kids and I shouldn't do this and I
shouldn't do this, but I wanted to do it. And
he said, um, I'm driving to work on a Wednesday,
and I put your show on with Jay and he said, Bro,
I pulled over at six o'clock in the morning. I
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pull over on the side of the road and I
didn't drive, and I just listened and I listened, and
then I played it back the last half hour. I
played it back again, and it saved my life. It
saved my life. Yeah, I just wanted to know he
was real. And I said, Bro, he's a percent real.
So you just never know. Brother, that's you imagine this
man with the family, taking his helicopter and just ending it. Man,
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I appreciate you sharing that because every time I hear that,
you can see I'm yeah, I'm crying right now. I'm um, man,
something will happen today, bro, See just today, I think
that these things happened with you and and other people's work,
but actually with you right now more than you know,
because these are just the people that tell you, right,
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I'm going to this in my life to like people
that I see an airports kind of look at me
and they want to come up to me, but they don't.
This is just the ones telling you. Imagine all the
ones you are just like, hey man, I'm never gonna
say this out loud. When I was thinking about doing
this and just this quiet thing happened and I changed.
There's way more of those that will never tell you
than there are the ones telling you thank you for
sharing this. Thank you, thank you because you you see
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how much you lifted me up. And I hope you
could tell this dude how much he lifted me up
by telling me this story also. And I'll continue to
do this. I'll continue to live people and empower and savement.
Just be real, that's the thing. If you could be.
And people used always saying to me, why used to
trust in sports? And I say, just funk, I am
a I'm a authetic Like love me or hate me,
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you know who you're getting in the world where nowadays
it's it's it's filtered. I think the authenticity is ringing
ringing louder, which I'm proud of and I'll never I'll
will never change that. It doesn't just ring louder bro, Like,
uh it doesn't. You just caught me, bro, Yeah, it's not.
That's not that's not a like on Instagram. That's and
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by the way, you know, I was thinking of I
drove back that night because a couple of people said
some nice things to me about some stuff I had done.
And I never thought about it this way because a
lot of these dudes were dad's and uh, I was
driving back, I think about this particular man with you
because he wasn't like there weren't tears, like he was
flowing water right. Well, I thought about his children. And
there was another guy there that said something with me
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that I'll keep with me and him, But I thought
about his children. I'm like, man, what an honor to
know that me like this child of an alcoholic or like,
I didn't just help this man. You didn't just help
that guy brother. You saved his wife's This man has
two children. You saved this children. His children went to
school that Friday with a loving, alive father, not knowing
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they would have gone to school that Friday without a dad.
So think about those and then someday what happens to
that child. So the ripple effects for anybody listening to this,
of you just helping other humans is immeasurable. There is
a ripple effect that happens when you do it that
you can't measure. It's not just the person that says
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you've helped them, it's all the ones who don't tell you.
But it's all the people that they're charged with protecting
or leading in their life and as children in life,
when you have kids, most lessons are kids get are caught,
not taught. My dad didn't teach me how to worry.
I caught it. I didn't teach me how to have
anxiety and fear. I caught it by just being around him.
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Oftentimes in life we don't turn out like our parents.
We have a different career, we think different, we operate different,
but we do catch their emotions a lot. Yes, we
grew up in chaos. When you grow up in chaos,
it could either break you or it could build you.
For me, it's built a couple of great careers for
me because I'm sucking great in chaos in calm, but
I'm great in chaos. Tom before I get in trouble,
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I want to learn how to exist in calm. I
want I'd like to to not always being cast or
cost cast. It's it's hard to be friends with Jay Glazer.
Maybe that's why we're such good friends because about three
use the word I used. I grew up in chaos
and I was bragging on a PEAT performance show that
I was on a TV show like three years ago.
I heard my for like a one millionth time. I said,
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let me tell you about me, man, I operate amazing
and chaos because I grew up and I even knew why,
I just like you did. And then after the show,
my wife's like, do you ever think that's why you
created all the time? And do you know be the
wife of someone who's constantly creating chaos? Do you know
what it's like to be the the mom of someone
who's called And I thought about it. I'm like, that's
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a cool thing to brag about, because we both do.
But I don't want to live the rest of my
damn life in this chaos all the time. And I
have learned to create I call it equanimity. In my book,
I have a chapter on equanimity, which is to learn
to be calm under dress because I don't want stressful
situations not to be in my life. I like pressure,
I like, but it's been different chain pressure and chaos.
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Big difference. It's huge different pressure, no problem. Chaos. We're
throwing everybody else's life upside down. Also, you nailed it.
That's the problem. Think about who you admire in your life.
Take football, whoever you like. Take say Brady's your friend, right,
what do we really admire about it? It's his ability
to find equanimity or calmness under duress. So it's easy
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to throw a touchdown in the first quarter when it's
zip zip. It's a lot different when you're down to
three and this drive has to score in the Super
Bowl to play. And his ability to be calm under dress.
Whoever you admire in football, I'm just picking one guy, right, No, No,
you're right. But it's like, well, let's switch it around,
because it's almost like you're saying, like, the way I've
lived my life is I've had to start down nothing
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in every game and then the lights come on. Okay,
now I got chaos, Now I can go well, that's
not a healthy way to live, you got it. It's
not a healthy way to go, you know. And that's
what And look, I'm still learning how to like Okay,
So when I live in calm, um, I worry. It's
all I do because I don't know any other way
but to live in chaos. So that's when the roommates
in my head start talking really bad to each other.
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And that's when, right when I'm calm of a panic
attack and anxiety attack. And that's why I'm learning rules
to to understand how to exist in the blue and
the calm and not seek out the cast, because the
chaos hurts everybody else. Like I said, like, and it's
hard for me to say, but man, with my cast,
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my mental health issues, it's hard to be friends with
Jay Glazer. Me too. We both both of us have
friends that would say, hey, man, it's explains you now.
It hurts to say it though, right Like for me,
it hurts me to say it. But at the same time,
I said, man, it's hard to be friends with Jay Glazer,
But look at the people who still are, like, look
at the people who've hung in there. Those are real friends.
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Those are pall bearers. Also, the rewards of being your
friend is this loyal dude, Is this dude you can
call and go, hey, I'm in the gray, help me.
So when they're chaos is bad, I will step the
funk up. I'll give you something that's help me. I
wrote about it, and we're both tolling our books. But
so when you're when kids are little, they're usually happier
than most adults. Why is that because kids operate out
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of imagination, out of creativity, not history and memory. And
so there's two types of operating systems in life. Most
people operate out of history and memory. We're talking earlier
about our friends. If everybody around all the times like
hey man, remember remember remember you know, hey man, you
remember that party? You remember that thing? If everybody's only
doing that, and you and I have friends with great pasts,
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so we could sit around and do that all the time,
and we do a little bit. But my friends often
operate out of imagination and vision. So they've got a
great past, but they're like, hey man, here's what I'm
working on right now. You know this, Here's what I'm
working on. Here's what I'm going here's what I'm focused on.
So that For me, the chaos part of it, I've
directed it to a positive chaos. My chaos now is imagination.
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Like for you writing the book, are you creating this
content that's imaginative to some extent, it's creative. So for
my way out of the calm, I can't just sit
around on a beach and like just lay there for months.
It's just I'm never gonna be able to do that.
But what I can do is I can sit on
a beach and go, hey, man, here's what I'm working on.
Here's what I'm thinking about, Here's where I'm going, here's
my vision, here's what i'm gonna help people, Here's what
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I'm gonna create. And that allows me to not be
in the dirty chaos. It amous me to be in
the beautiful chaos. So for me, it's not escaping chaos,
it's a different version of it. Like I think that
you talked about Dwayne earlier or the Rock, he's a creative,
genius guy. He's oh and he's not in the past.
He'll look at it learn from it. But he's like, hey,
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I got Black Adam coming out, I got this, I'm
doing that, I'm doing this, And he's creating. That's a
beautiful chaos. That's a genius. And for those of you
that struggle with your mental health, here's one thing I believe.
I think Glazer has this. I think I have it.
I think I think typically people who have some sort
of mental health issues have a form of genius in
them that that is a little bit special, it's a
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little bit unique, and and they actually start to use
imagination as instead of memory and history. That chaos starts
to become a genius of imagining and creating. And that's
why I've seen most of the most brilliant people I know,
and you know, Jay struggle with some There's a few
dudes they just got their act together. And I don't
get those guys, right, I don't get those guys. But
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by the way, some of them might even be more
creative and more successful if they had a little of
this thing. We a little crazy. So for you use
it to be imagining and dreaming and envisioning, that's the
state I get into. Mhm. You kind of stopped right
there and you're saying that's the state I get into. Okay,
I force it. Okay, when did you make that decision
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to start forcing it? Because it didn't like at one
point you have to say, hey, I'm gonna do this,
how long ago and how long did it take you
to do that? And I'm asking you because I'm trying
to learn right now exactly what took me a couple
of years of like permanently being able to get into it.
But where it came from was my dad. My dad
got sober j and I said, hey, Dad, are you
never gonna drink again? And my dad says, I can't
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promise you that, man, I can tell you this. I'm
not gonna drink for one more day. And that ended
up being one more day. The rest of my dad's
life was one more day. And I would ask my dad,
go how do you keep it away? How do you
keep it away? And he goes, well, I can't sit
around and try not to think about not drinking. That
don't work. I said, so what do you think about?
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And he goes, I just imagine, I dream? What do
I want to work on? What do I want to build?
Where am I going to my career? What do I
want to take the family? What book should I be reading?
What think? What? What part of my body am I
working on? So he's like, because you and I have
both said to each other, man, one of my ways
out is if I can move my body, that's our
one trick, pony. But for my dad, he's like, it
wasn't just moving my body, it was moving my imagination.
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It's moving this And I went, Dad, you're kidding me.
So the way you're not drinking isn't just like trying
not to drink, trying not to be in the gray.
He's like, of course not. I'm imagining and I'm creating.
So it's my dad was a banker. It's not like
my dad at the like unbelieving on an artist or
a singer right or on TV just a guy. Right.
But my Dad's like, yeah, man, I'm just envisioning, Like
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what when when the next year looked? Like where am
I going? What do I want to be? Who could
I help? Also not drink? And so my dad started
to really get into his program of helping other people
with their sobriety. And so my dad's pathway out was
think about it, Jay. My dad was once an alcoholic
and no longer was that qualified him to help the
person he used to be. That became a superpower, that
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became it and he would imagine different ways of doing it,
in different ways of communicating, and different ways of getting
up at the meeting and saying, Hi, I'm ed, I'm
an alcoholic, and and he would create and he goes
that fills the chaos in my brain that would have
otherwise caused me to drink. That's where I learned it. Yeah,
that's beautiful. And again that's why I want people to
really hear that loud and clear. What you think has
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made you funked up in the past and you've overcome
it is really your superpower, Bingo. It's your superpower. And
even if, like if you had health issues, it didn't
break you. You came through the other side of that tunnel.
You could apply that knowledge that you have that strength
to other areas of your life. I got a guy
that I love whose son has some form of he's
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on the spectrum a little bit autistically, Okay. They brought
him to all these different teachers to help him with
his learning disabilities. They all were wonderful and good people.
Then he finally has a teacher now who's completely changed him.
And you know what the difference was this teachers on
the spectrum. Also, this teacher has a scotch of autism
when they were a kid, that teachers most qualified to
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help this little boy who's got the same condition. There's
just a relatability when you have a similar pain of somebody,
an energy connection that's on our souls and our spirits
that you can't put into words. But when Jay Glazer
talks about being in the gray, if you're in the gray,
you feel something in your your spirit. He's not motivating you,
he's inspiring, he's touching your spirit. There's just some energy
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transfer when there's a shared pain that you can't replicate
any other way. So that pain is not just a
little bit of a gift, It is the actual thing
man that will help you. You don't know this, but
my first career out of college, I played college baseball
and I got hurt and appro ended a career that
would have ended anyway. I have a business major. I
can't find a job. I worked at an orphanage bro
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my boys. I worked at McKinley Home for boys. My
boys were all eight to ten years old. I'm not
a psychologist. I don't have any kids of my own.
What the heck qualified me to work with these boys?
My boys, their parents were dead, incarcerated, or had molested them.
What did I have in common with these boys? Shared
childhood pain? And there was something about my being, my
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spirit that they knew I saw them, they knew I
got them. Of all the millions of dollars I've made, bro,
my favorite time of my career was making six dollars
and eighty cents an hour at McKinley Home for Boys.
With my boys, I took them to school, I took
them trick or treating. I was their father, the twenty
two years old. Yes, but I got placed there and
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I belonged there without any of the degrees, without any
children of my own. But I got these eyes man
of a kid was neglected and they had them, and
somehow that energy on my soul and my spirit they felt.
That's what glazers got. When it comes to mental health,
you can't explain it, but you feel something because he
is going through what you've gone through. So any of
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you listening to this, that's your superpower, like literally, energetically, spiritually,
it's your superpower. Man. That's that's that is so beautiful.
That's again the thing is how are you of service?
Like we gotta be a service. And here you are
and you're probably seeing they're going funck. Life sucks. Now
you look back and life was great, it was incredible.
I was like your while, it's not an antidepressant, that
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is yes. I'm like, man, my dream ended, Baseball's over.
I don't know what I want to do. I can't
find a freaking job. Oh great, six dollars and eighty
cents an hour? What is this ship? And I walk
in and it changed my life? And here's what's nuts, Jay,
You know I got the job. You're gonna love how
the universe connects things. I got the job because I'm
back at my old man's house. I'm living on in
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the same bed I grew up in. My dad gets sober,
goes to his first a A meeting, comes back and goes,
I got your excuse because I got your fucking job.
I go, well, what is it? He goes, you don't
get the fucking pick you're eating out of my fridge.
Get your house down there tomorrow. And what it was
was this dude I got. I show up there. I go, hey,
I'm here for the job. What is I don't even
know what it is? They go, I go, the guy's
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names Tim. My dad met him. They're like, they got
three Tims at work. Here. I go, well, my dad
met him at an a meeting and they go, oh,
drunk Tim, that's kind of go to it's a but
what isn't amazing that my dad's drinking prepared me to
help the boys, and my dad making the decision to
get sober, had him meet Tim, who got me the
job with these boys. It's amazing. That's the universe conspires
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to help us. It's for us, it's not against us.
When you have a mental health struggles, it's hard to
think that it's it's your your victim. Like for me,
I'm always like, man, universe against me? Why am I
so on loves? Why am I a lovable It's not
The universe conspires to help us. Now one was against us.
We just gotta figure out, Okay, why do we have
certain pain and how would he how do we use that? Pan?
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Tell Bus it's exactly what you and I both do.
And it was working there Bro that I was like,
I think I like this helping people think better than business.
So if I'm gonna build businesses, they have to have
one qualifier. They gotta help humans otherwise I don't want
to do them, and that sort of started this journey
of little that I know. I'm in there with eight
boys that are eight years old, and I'm helping them
(44:36):
change their life. Little do I know that. Okay, now
I'm speaking in front of eighty thousand like because of that.
Heck would have thought they change your life all the
way around. It changed my life, and this is I'm
watching it change yours. Dude. A guy comes up to
me Friday and tells me that he's gonna take a
helicopter into a mountain and he hears you on my show,
and what is it? Eight months six months later, he's
(44:58):
at this event living his dream life. It's incredible, incredible, credible.
It's like, man, I've done a lot of cool stuff
in life. You've done a lot of cool stuff in life.
There is nothing like you saw it. You said the story.
I cried. I don't get used to it. I got
used to being on TV. I got used to the
accolades like I used to fame and all. I don't
get used to hearing man, you saved my life. I
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hope I never do right. It's just it's beautiful, and
I hope you don't. I hope the same thing, like
you got so excited to tell the story. I hope
you understand too what you're doing for the world. Man
and they say, hey, if you help one, like Dwayne
will constantly hit me up and go, hey, just remember
it's if you help one, because he doesn't want me
putting pressure on myself. I'm not helping him, and I'll
(45:42):
do that. I'm not helping enough from now, but enough,
I haven't reached enough people. I haven't helped enough people.
And I'll get down to myself. No, no, no, no,
you help one. And he just constantly reminds me of that.
What a great friend, and help you that advice that's
good for me to hear. By the way to yes,
because people too often we start we compare ourselves. Hey,
we compare ourselves to everybody else, but be we start
(46:02):
comparing ourselves to what we don't have instead of what
we already have. And we've done so fucking much. If
little Ed or little Jay said, hey, you're gonna do this, this, this,
we would say, just where we are in our lives
right now, we tell that to little kid and us
a little kid, go, do we really do that? What
are you serious? Instead, you and I compare ourselves. We
(46:24):
haven't done enough, but enough, It's got to be enough.
So Dwayne will remind me, Hey, you hope about one.
That's why you started this and it and it checks me,
makes me check myself every once in a while. Please
please keep you. I will remind you. I remind you
before I let you go. I know we've gone way
way over. Um, so I appreciate you. I don't know
(46:45):
if you have any more time. I just want one
more question. And I'm loving this, man. I love you.
Give me your unbreakable moment, a moment in life that
could have broken you almost did but didn't, and you
came through the other side of that tunnel. Yeah. I
was an entrepreneur, really in my career and I was
running out of money and I had to go to
the I remember I was in l A. I'm driving
(47:06):
a Honda cr X. I'll never forget this, and Uh,
I pull up to this appointment. I do my little
pitch in their house. They say no, I come out
and they had broken into my car and uh that
was the days where they would steal car stereos. You know,
if you had a ken Wood or an album. Right, Well,
I had a san you know, so I'm like, what
the hell they breaking into my car board? This freaking
criminal stole my passenger seat. Now, dude, like, you gotta
(47:30):
be a passenger seat and furniture. It's true story. You
gotta be a very specific criminal to be in the
market for a passenger seat of a Honda freaking CRX.
And I remember, just like, dude, this is the lowest
point in my life. I got this shitty car, I
got no money. I don't know if I have enough
gas to get back to where I live. And I
remember I ended up putting a rock there where my
(47:51):
buddy could sit on it. You drive back and we're
going to the A T M. And I'm praying, bro,
I'm praying, I hope I got twenty one bucks into
this count because only spent out twenty dollars to get gas.
Please let me have twenty one bucks on there. And
I go to put my coat in and it won't
spit the twenty out in sufficient money. Now I don't
have the money to get back, and I literally was
at the gas station and I begged for money. I
(48:14):
begged you money, I said, I was walking up to
people saying, hey, listen, I'm sorry to bother you. I'm
stuck here in l A. Someone broke into my car.
There's the seat that's missing, and no one would give
me money. I'm there like two hours, and finally this
guy's like, well, how much do you need to get back.
I'm like, man, if you give me the ten dollars,
you give me your name, I will get you the
money back. This dude gives me the ten bucks and
I get back and I called my dad and I say, hey,
(48:37):
I'm I'm out, I'm out, I'm gonna I'm I'm quitting.
I'm out of here. And my dad, who I had
already asked many times, are you never gonna drink again?
With sec I'd say, Dad, are you never gonna drink again?
And he would always say, I can't promise you that.
But I told you I'm not gonna drink for one
more day. And I said, so I'm quittin man, I
got no money. It's my dad goes, hey, man, you
(48:57):
know you don't you don't have to decide you're never
gonna quit. Just don't quit for one more day. Just
don't quit the one more day. And I woke up
the next day and I'm like, I don't feel like
quitting quite as much, you know, money that day. And
the third day my dad called me, he goes you
all right, and I go, I don't even have the
ten bucks to send this guy back. My dad wasn't
one of these dudes like hey, I'll help you. He's
(49:18):
just like hey, he goes, well, hanging there, man, just
don't quit for one more day. And the sixth day,
I landed a pretty damn good account back in those days,
and I was able to send the guy that ten
bucks back, and that led to mean at that time,
about two years later, I'm making a million year and
blah blah blah blah blah. But it was the moment
of me deciding, in my most down, dark moment of
(49:39):
just don't quit for today. And I think that that's
a metaphor for every area of life, like just don't
quit today, Just don't quit today, Just don't give in today.
Just don't give up today, and for the rest of
my life. Man, it's now like thirty some odd years later.
Many times my backs went up against the wall and
I'm like, you know what, I just ain't gonna quit
for today, and that serves me really, really well in
(50:00):
my life. And thank god I didn't quit, because I've
helt millions of people and I've been able to do
this with you, and I was millimeters bro And by
the way, would have been justified in quitting. The same
person would have quit the same Glazer after nine years
and we're like, it's a working eight years after five years.
Just remember this. Unrealistic people rule the world. Remember this.
(50:22):
Everybody weird, rich and I mean rich, emotionally, rich in friendships,
rich in money, and normal poor. I think everybody's always
thinking I want to be normal. I know you thought this.
I wish I was just more normal. As I'm fifty
one years old, I don't want ship to do with
being normal. I like being weird. I like being unrealistic.
(50:42):
I like being different. I like my weirdness. And you
know what, most of the people I'm around, including Glazer,
we're all a little bit cook. We're all a little
bit weird. And I like being weird. And thank god
I didn't quit that day, And thank god I'm a
little weird. And if you've got a little weird in you,
you probably got a better chance of having a rich
life than if you were normal. Screw normal, man, I
(51:04):
got a hashtag, motherfucker I'm different. Yeah, it was good,
different leads of success. Yeah. I try and tell people
all the time in our combat bets all the time
and our charities, don't be a face in the crowd,
be the fucking proud, be your own crowd. Absolutely. Yeah,
I am fucking different, and too many of us try it,
just trying to just fit in. Yeah, no, let's not
(51:26):
fit in. Don't conformity. Conforming to the norm is the
ultimate forum of cowardice. You want to be like everybody else,
that's coward It takes courage to be different, could be different,
courage to be scary. Yes, you damn right. It is scary. Absolutely,
Cowardice is cowardice is conformity so great unbelieved. Yeah, we
(51:47):
can go. I'm gonna listen. You gotta have me back
on your podcast that Many Lives. I'm gonna have you
back on this one again. Let's just keep doing it
because it's just man, just still here from people that
we've lifted them up. Man, I'm out to be your friend.
I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. Give me
that forum to do what I've been meant to do. Yeah,
And I appreciate you, man. I just want you to
(52:08):
know that I'm really really I love you man, and
do anything I can ever do. You're coming back on
I'll come back on here. Anything. Anybody listening today, I'm
in Tell people again. Hey, tell us where we can
see you, where we could read you, where we could
find you. Everything. Yeah, anything that says ed my Let
E D M y l E T T Instagram, my podcast,
my book whatever. The podcast was called the Ed my
Lett Show. TV show is called TV shows called Change
(52:31):
with ed my Let You can get it in the
link in my bio on Instagram. Great, and the book
is called the Power of One More love it man,
how about that number one selling book this year. I
gotta catch up, ship, bro. I love you man, appreciate
your grateful for you
Host
Jay Glazer
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