August 28, 2024 • 43 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. Jay is spending this final week of no football in Panama with his wife Rosie getting more stem cell treatments. So, who better to have on this week’s Unbreakable pod than Dr. Daniel Briggs, founder, president, and chief executive officer at Auragens. Take a listen to how this place has completely changed Jay’s (and many others) life dealing with decades of injuries!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer, and look the next guest I'm bringing on.
I'm bringing them up for more information about something that
I've been asked about a lot. I have really been
open about my success with mesyl kinmal stem cells down
in Panama and a place called Origins. But I'm not
a doctor, and you know, I can just tell people
(00:37):
what has worked for me, what's worked for other people
that I've sent down to. It has been a game
changer for me. But the more we can educate people
out there, to show them something like this is out there,
I think it really could be helpful.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So I went to the top.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Our guest today on Unbreakable is doctor Dan Briggs. He
is the president and the CEO of Origins, which is
a stem cell place that I go to in Panama,
Panama City. He's also on the editorial board of the
Journal of Stem Cell Research, five time Amazon best Selling
author in Biotechnology, and current Healthcare.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Executive of the Year in Nevada.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So I really appreciate you joining me dead by all
those accolades.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm surprised you could fit me on your busy schedule.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Jay, absolutely anything for our number one patient.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You need number one. I think I was one of
your first yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Number one patient right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Right, well, myself and Jeremy Shockey, which was cool for
me to go down and see Shaki there and to
hear what it helped with him stem cells. And I
hadn't known this, but he had gone through, you know,
some really bad neurological stuff after playing football.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And he was like, dude, I don't have it anymore.
I'm like, come on, I'm like just like that. He's like,
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And I went down to Origins, folks, I was a
week away from a three level fusion in my back.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I have no more L four, L five. I've ruptured
it so many times it doesn't exist. So it's bone
on bone, spawn on small on the nerves. And they
either wanted to put a rod in or three.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Level fusion, which is when I elected. And I said,
I'm gonna throw up a hell Mary and go down
here to Origins.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I walked in at about forty five degrees and
I've had nerve pain for my first ruptures around the
year two thousand on, and you guys changed my life,
so I kind of want to want and I knew
I was a super responder. I know most people don't.
It doesn't take two days to work.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
For me.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It did and I haven't look back. But at the
same right, I'll tell you this, folks, I had a
I would say.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Botched ankle surgery. I broke my ankle twice and it
was going into two different fight camps.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
With two guys. I was training with Tyron Woodley and
Randy g. Tour.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So I just booted it and continued camp. And when
surgery finally came around a year later.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
First, I woke up during the surgery, which wasn't fun, but.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Second of all, it left my ankle looking like a grapefruit,
like a beach ball for the next twelve years. Five
months after my treatment with you guys, my wife Rosie
looked down and said, your ankle looks normal, and I
didn't realize it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I think that's the way it's really supposed to
work with my right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But Doc, I want you to kind of kind of
give us this for people who are learning about this,
just learning about this, tell everybody what origins does and
what why this is different than I guess it's a
different question. Why is different when I've had friends say, oh,
I've gotten stem cell in America and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's not the same thing, so kind of help us
out here.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
No, and you teeter it up very nicely and once again,
grateful that you've had these responses. And yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Why you're grateful. You figure out what I feel.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, and you're not a road now you you responded faster.
We tend to set expectations closer to a two three
month range to really start feeling these effects. But that's
very simply because this is biology. Biology is not an
exact science, because every single living organism is unique, right,
and so you're going to see different response rate based
(04:02):
on what we give you and how it's done. It
will lead into a few of the questions you just asked.
So because mister Shockey is very open about his time
with us and continued to return, so I feel comfortable
talking about him. He's given us grace for him. It
really is that cognitive function, right, the synaptic plasticity, and
you've experienced as well, from just your first night going
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back and going to sleep and sleeping to night for
the first eight hours for the first decades exactly. And
so what we're putting into is really helping to quell
those cytokine responses and to put you at ease, and
a big piece that then leads into not only the
physical manifestation of pain, but also, being on this particular podcast,
the mental side of it. It allows you to almost
(04:45):
ease off the gas and to take a deep breath,
and it calms the storm that's going on the side
of your head. And we see that both from the
kind of outward manifestation of symptoms and someone who's constantly
thinking about the pain they're in or on diabetes side,
the constant need to check your levels to make see
where you're at almost causes a mental deterioration in that state.
(05:06):
And as we are able to address those, you see
it actually manifest both mentally and physically and improvement well being.
So teeing it up kind of on where you stood
on this and this is where it gets real interesting.
This is the fun part is really what led us
to this because you ask, and I think really since
twenty twenty, COVID people taking a much more active and
(05:27):
engage role in their own health and starting to really
look at it as a more integral part of their
light lives and not just leaving up. Their doctors are
being more curious as to what mesen chymal stem cell
treatments are. So let me start by saying this is
themselves were first identified way back in nineteen oh eight.
A yeah, these have been around for a long time.
(05:48):
A Russian scientist discovered nineteen oh eight, name them ongoing
slow growth. Really wasn't until nineteen ninety one one gentleman
named doctor Kaplan identified mesen chymal stem cells. Recognize these
they basically it's having these modulatory effects where they can
actually move into and create tissue repair, cartilage, muscle growth.
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Over the next twenty years, these advancements became rapid, and
so it's my way of saying where we're at now
is we're standing on the shoulders of a lot of years,
one hundred plus years of understand from the scientific side
and about thirty five years of clinical actual use creating
the evidence behind these not just anecdotal. Where you're at
and jail puts you into this group. But where origins
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comes at it, it's trying to sell a lot of
the misinformation that exists in the space. Because this process
you mentioned the US themselves we do is not allowed
in the United States yet it will be, but it
is not yet. We can get into why that is
here momentarily, but what that's caused is a gray area,
(06:52):
a lot of misinformation, a lot of pseudo science being used.
I'll call them snake oil salesmen who are selling a
product or selling a dream that is not realistic. I
watch competitors in the faith come out and promise the
world in reality this is this is medicine. This is
a biologic medicine is going to go in and repair
your cartilage. It's going to help you know modulation, help
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you feel healthier, can help your neuroplasticity. We can focus
these based on where you're at, and this is based
on years and years and years. But because of the
lack of oversight done by the US, many others in
this field have taken license with that and create a
lot of misinformation. That's really one of our tenants. Our
mission is to answer these questions and then publish.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So what's the difference though, because you're saying mes kamo
and people don't know what that is. What's the difference
between the stem cells somewhere you get in America and
messal commo stem cells where you would get right pretty
much anywhere else in the world. But America, Am I
correct there?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Or let me let me break this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Not every country, I guess a lot of countries.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's some countries. So now here's the thing is, no
two stem cell lines are the same, thank them like
a snowflake. No two people are the same. So each
one has this proprietary process. It's part of the reason
why we're we have such successful patient outcomes is that
we've developed such a good stem cell line. And that's
what we're utilize. That's through our media, that's to our
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scientists and our doctors, our positions, and the application of it.
In the United States, what you were allowed to do
is essentially at a post or bone marrow stem cells.
So we're going into your into your hip and withdrawing
essentially your bone marrow.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So you're taking my own stem cell, which is the
last thing I want is my own fucked up stem
cells put back in me. Trust me. It's the last
thing I want.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah. We've lived our lives right like it takes a
lot of experience to get to point our lives, I know,
yeah yeah, and I want you to go leave that behind.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Mesenchymal stem cells are brand new universal donors essentially, so
we are working with mothers as they enter their second
trimester of pregnancy. Screen mothers do out. We're actually in
the operator room as they give birth via cesarean section.
We take the cord, the umbilical cord, bring it back
to our laboratory. The mother goes home with a healthy baby,
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So we're essentially taking what would have been a medical
waste otherwise. At that point, we started dissecting it, with
drawing Warden's jelly and replicating these and locating and identifying
to the characteristics. Mezzen chymals themselves very specific, has certain
markers that are required to be considered an NSC or
mezen chymal and some that it must lack. And when
we get exactly what we need, we're able to then
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focus in to pull out the characteristics that we want
to give you the best possible results. That is the
part that is illegal in the United States. And I
understand why it was initially done well, based in a
two thousand and one doctrine by George W. Bush. He
did it based on the information of what he had
at the time. There's been a lot of evolution since
where now we're using umbilical cords from healthy born babies.
(09:50):
At the time we were looking at what we're essentially
aborted fetuses. Two entirely different worlds and one that we
still address today ethically sourced versus something else that is
much more controversial.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So but obviously people in America know that medical commal
stem cells work because when you give birth in America,
you're allowed to keep your umbilical cord and use the
you know, and have them stored for stem cels. But
if it's not legal here, how.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Do they use them? Do they have to go to
Panama to get them done?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You can use them strictly for yourself, so for you
for it, Okay, So you work blood and it's limited
in the application, So think of this way. If it's
a blood borne disease, it will work for you potentially
right now, they're how they're stored, where they're maintained. I
would I've asked people exercise caution with which company they go.
With that being said, there is value to it. Now
(10:44):
these are ourselves and as in kindal stem cells that
we extract are immunal privileged, meaning when they enter your body,
there are no HLA issues. They do not get rejected.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There are no what's what's what's HLA? I don't know
what you got? Hey, you're talking to a guy with
a two point three gpa and stop it.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
So essentially the break it down on Layman's terms. If
you were going you hear about people trying to get
matched up, whether it be for a liver or any
sort of organ transplant.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So in that there's a whole process go will this
body accept this person's liver?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And that's because we have a certain field typing markers
that either accept and allow it to actually take hold,
or your body is natural response and get something foreign
into it is to reject it. It's trying to protect you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So your immune system ramps up and says there's an
object inside of me that shouldn't be here, and it
will kill off that liver or we'll kill off those cells.
And that is one of the very unique things mesent
tym will stem cells. They're unal privileged, so essentially they're
a universal cell. When we place this into your body,
and we do it over a very specific course of time,
so hopefully your body can initially look at them, essentially
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do their check and say these are acceptable, and then
they start ture into your own cells and they start
moving through your body. Right, And these are targeted migration,
which means when they see inflammation or they see an issue,
they actually are drawn to that issue where then they
take root and they start to go to work.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Not only so they know where to go in your body.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yep, so they're drawn to So think of these selves.
They just spent their last ten months of their lives
creating a human out of thin air. Right, it's simple
to put it right. And so everything they're checking, they
have checklist. They are their ten fingers or they're ten toes.
Two years partledge good, everything's going to work. Cool, babies out,
oven dinger goes off, baby comes out. So when we
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take this, that's the mode they're in. So they're just
continuing on. So now they're going into your body. Let's
saying okay, we're in Jay Glazer. They don't care who
you are. And they're going, well, okay, ten fingers, ten toes, gosh,
we really messed up the spinal cord. We better get
to work on it. And that's how they go in
and they start to do exactly what they have been doing.
And that's what that's what the most interesting thing about
(12:51):
this is we're not creating anything. We're taking exactly the
biology that has been programmed to do this, making sure
it's extremely pure, or protecting it, chain of custody into
the patient and let it go to work. And once
you start thinking about that, when you start realizing how
truly fundamental this is, and that begs the question why
(13:13):
is this not more widely understood to this point? So, yeah,
that question why I'm asking you that question?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Why is it not more widely understood?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I actually got a text from some of the other
days saying I don't know if I could get behind this,
and I'm like, should I know what?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Help you?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And and someone else? But so, yeah, answer you can
help us with that question.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, well, I think again it goes back twofold. I
think really one is because it's been operating in this
unregulated environment has created a lot of questionable actors, pseudo
science and really a big profit margin for a lot
of companies who have been in business right and they
will put out videos, they will do podcasts that are
(13:54):
entirely disingenuous. If it's a competitor Watches, of course, I'm
not talking about you, but in general have been some
very questionable people in this source and that's where we
try to come into is really open source. Show exactly
how we do it. We follow every single possible protocol
we can from the US, whether it's FDA, aabb cGMP,
all initials that don't matter, to basically one that oversees
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tissue blood regulations through our laboratories. We follow here in
Panama City as though we were in the US. That
way we can bring this evidence to the United States
and it becomes irrefutable. That's one that hasn't It was
too profitable for people to actually care enough to put
this into the public domain. That's where we flip the
script on this and why we want to help bring
it to you in your neighborhood. Jas You don't have
(14:38):
to necessarily come down here, come visits some PanAm up
a vacation, but when you don't feel well or someone
who can't travel Panama. There should be widely available to
all and at volume. It would be something should be
covered by insurance because it will be a major prophylactic
or preventative care for individuals either. The second point, why
is this non the US major disruption of profit lines? Right, So,
(15:01):
for better or worse, we live in a capitalist society
that drives and is driven by quarterly results. There is
a lot of future dollars to be made by everyone, physicians,
insurance companies, pharma. As this progresses, however, will there will
be a six to eight quarter disruption, a two year
disruption that is going to cause issues.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Why?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well, because all of a sudden, the cocks won cocks
two blockers people utilize no longer necessary, a lot of
the anti inflammatories gone, these surgery avoidance no longer the.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Big farm up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, the meds that I was on now on need
or think about a three level fusion. They're not making
money off that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, okay, So so last year United Healthcare more largest
insurance companies made gross three hundred and seventy two billion
dollars right, twenty two and a half billion profits. It's
a large number. Their CEO made twenty three billion dollars.
Twenty billion of that was in stock options. Now imagine
if he has to go back and explain why he
(16:03):
has taken a seventy percent haircut next year, which is
what this would translate into as you start going into it.
And that's the reason. Here's I am all for a
for profit industry. Here's why I call out the United
Healthcare is of the world. Are the teams of the world.
Of that three hundred and seventy two million dollars that
United Healthcare brought in last year, two hundred and eighty
(16:24):
two billion of it came from Medicare and Medicaid payments,
which is tax period dollars. That's you and I pay
in for those who otherwise don't have access to medicine.
And I oversee I oversee clinics throughout the US as well.
And I'll tell you what the care being provided by
people receive Medicare and Medicare is not top tier. A
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lot of people rejected, but that's seventy five percent of
their profit basis. It is eighty five percent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So I want to get into Look, I've said that
it origin is great enough to come to me and said, hey,
we want to bring down some about vets, say you
did a lot of work with combat vets. We're all yours.
You help us out. Let's got us through the first one.
I know you guys are doing something big coming up here.
The first one was a friend of mine named Elliott Ruieves,
who his unit helped save American POWs. But he's since
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I've known him, he couldn't put.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
His own pants on.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And you know, he got hurt in the process of
that mission. He's had I think sixteen surgeries and his
left leg he got multiple sclerosis. Now his right foot
doesn't work, he has drop foot, and we origins and
I'm grateful for you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We paid for his flight, his his airfare, his hotel,
all his treatments to help with the MS and the injuries.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And again I I'm still learning as it goes. And
Elliott called me two months after saying I don't know
what to saying, like what He's like, my right foot
is working, and I was like, you think it's a
placebo effect? He said, it can't be, like my nerve
didn't work in that foot. And then I saw I
(17:59):
flew him end a woman who they rescued one of
the POWs.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
SHAWNA. Johnson.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I flew him and his team and her out to
Malibu last in March to have a reunion, to meet
for the first time since that mission. Promised him I would.
They came on the podcast. I'm like, wow, they haven't
met since. It was like they rescued it. They pulled
her out of captivity. It's twenty two days, got her
on a helicopter and got her a helicopter and immediately
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got her help and they went back and fought, and
Elliett was done. But the rest of his teammates wealth
they never met after that. Well, he shows up to
my house and again this guy worked out an unbreakable
He was my first I helped him before I helped anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
He was like one of the guys he helped get
started from the charity I found an MVP. So I've
not known him to be able to walk, you know,
with his right foot, or to put his pants on
by himself. And this his self admittedly, And not only.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Did he walk into my house with moving his right
foot for the first time, but three weeks before that
he did it tough Mutter race, which is not just
a race, folks, It's where you're lugging stuff on your
shoulders and you're going through all these different obstacle courses
for dude who come put his own pants on. So,
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which is just so a I'm grateful you guys did
that for God considered her brother.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I can't thank you enough for be Tell me in
Stemsili's if you will, like, where did it work? What
was he able to do? What did it attack?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
How was he able to go from where he was
in the ten years I've known him to now being
able to do a tough mutter? That was for me,
Like when people ask me about this, I'm like, look,
I can only tell you my experience, and whether you
believe it or not, that's on you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But this cat, it's like, there's no no, there's no
placebo effect, there's no second guessing of what it did
for this guy.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
No. And obviously that's the reason we do this, right,
It's the reason we have so many American positions and
people who've made their lives in Panama because we understand
we're creating that evidence that then we're able to take
that to the US. Right, and specifically, it's Elliott's one
of a kind, one the most gracious incredible human like
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he showed up and we all met him and said
we have better help him. Like he is. He shows
up with his daughter and he just does all I
want to do is carry my daughter, right, And you go, Okay,
we're going to do this and we're going to help
him get that piece back and to be a friend,
he worked very hard on his own. Right. We gave
him the tools to get him mobile, and then he
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took at the next twenty yards right a very simply put,
he had the number of issues which I want to
be cautious of discussing because obviously on that piece, but
he has well there's multiple sclerosis, right, and what we
saw there with his drop and where that's going. Part
of what stem cells do, what mesentimal stem cells are doing,
is they're helping to regrow and reactivate the nerve endings.
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So when we even even into your procedure and what
we do with lumbar chronic lumbar pain, we're going into
the facet joints where essentially the ends of the nerves
are sitting there braid and we're delivering them there and
we're administering so it can pick them up and go
and it's starting to then remove the inflammation around it,
or in his case, around the nerves that was causing
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the drop foot, and it's starting to actually regrow and
repair not only the nerves that damaged cartilage, tissue, ligaments throughout,
and so it's one of.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Those pieces it is grown the nerve.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Oh yeah, absolutely, wow, that's capability of doing that. And
this is this is where, without naming the university, we
had a very well known US university initially came to
us that you can have our patient. We don't necessarily believe,
and it drives me nuts a lot to say, we
don't believe. This isn't a religion. I'm gonna show you
before and after, and when you come out of it,
you tell me whether it worked right science And so
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we go through it, and they did. They had their
MRIs beforehand and their AMRIS seven months later. At seven
months this surgeon at a well known universe could looked
at and said, okay, doctor Briggs, I'm in I this
looks like it was a surgical repair. We cannot see
as though there were an injury here. It actually went
without anything being invasive, at which point I called them friendlies.
(22:11):
He helped upload a video on his behalf. Basically big in
the question of we understand the science here is real.
There are decades of history and papers, studies, research periodviewed
journals to support it, but we do not have the
evidence in the US. Evidence being clinical trials, clinical studies
with actual person ABMC going through it like we did
(22:32):
with your case, Jays. So, Jay, you are part of
a clinical group that we came out with an eighty
four percent improvement across the board. You're one of a
large group and that has been peer reviewed and published.
But that is what it takes to get this brought
to the US. When you get to someone like Elliott
very simply put, he is a prime candidate for someone
that otherwise would have been going through And he came
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down here, had gone through twelve or thirteen surgery today.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Surgery avoidance, picked up his daughter and walked out of here.
He's competing again. I mean, this is why it's so important,
and that is why I'm always available. I told you
that anytime you want to talk about these things, I
will be available because we have to get the real
message out there and get people at least curious enough
to dig into the real information, and so we chase,
chasing me where we can to truly publish this guy
(23:20):
and help educate because the more people know the student,
this becomes more available to a larger population.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to read a text that I got from
somebody who I had recommended to go down there, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Not going to say the names.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I don't have to think you guys knew I
was the one who recommended her until I sent you,
guys a text, didn't right, Yeah, nope. This person writes
about her husband. She said, I researched heavily many options
for biblical cord stem cell treatment centers and were brought
my husband to Origins and Panama. His improvements are substantial
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in so many ways. He has fusions, stage arthritis, have
been blowing out muscles, sitting in a chairs due to
floro quit alone toxicity. Origins was the ones that suggested
what was happening with this toxicity, not US doctors, which
is upsetting. And by the way, this person posted this
on our social media, so that's why I'm reading this.
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He has had twenty seven surgeries that included open heart
two told him to these at the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Hip replacement in the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He was an endless pain and his doctors wanted him
to go to pain management doctor, which he refused to
do because their treatment idea was pain mets. He is
now a new person, looks great, feels fantastic. He has
use of his toes and fingers again. His bone spurs
in his neck made him cough or sneeze when he ate,
It has stopped. No more blown out muscles so far,
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His eyes have improved. The cracking noise when he moved
his finger and joints has all but subsided. His shaking
has stopped in his arm and hands from nerve damage.
His energy level was incredible, having just turned I'm seventy
years old and his treatment was early April, so this is,
you know, just a few months to have to have
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results like that is incredible. What's the most.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I guess jarring thing that you've seen since you've been
doing this, if somebody went from A to Z.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah, absolutely love that. When you sent that to us,
I had no idea. That was a referral from you,
and so obviously we treat everyone same and to the end,
with that patient, we identified what the underlying issues were.
Because the medications they had put him on oz muscle tears,
massive degeneration, and the fact that it was something we
(25:46):
looked at immediately, and we do very again because we
understand that we're carrying the mantle. We can make no missteps. Right,
We're at the forefront of the regena degenerative medicine field.
We have an stellar reputation. We have to maintain that.
So we do clinical consensus groups for every patient, meaning
all the doctors, all the scientists get around look at
every individual patient, go what are we looking at? How
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do we best help this patient? Right? And so we
identified that early on the fact that had never been
relayed to them was concerned. So the results from that
are absolutely what we expect to see. So that's fantastic
across the board. Oh boy, there have been Okay, my
favorite story, it's probably it's not necessarily that I'm going
to call it miraculous, but there was again another military
(26:29):
that seventy two years old, was in here, served this country, retired.
He had been in intense pain, whether it be a
flop neuropathy to really was his shoulders and back. He
had one request, he said, documents, I want to be
able to drink a Miller Light with my friends at
the VA and he went, well, then drink it. He goes,
I can't lift my arms to drink the beer.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Wow, okay. And so this is one of those ones
that happened, very quippy, and it sticks with me. And
so he came in on Monday on Friday, he grabs
me before he goes, he literally walks up to a wall,
puts both hands up to the wall and goes, look
at this. He goes both hands up, no pain. And
since then he sent us no less than ten different
pictures of himself with the Miller life. But it's one
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of those pieces where you go, it was the simplest
thing and one one piece of enjoyment you want to
get back to someone who served the country and he
is continually just thrilled to be able to do so.
And so it's those it's those smaller ones sometimes that
just stick with you and go. It changed his life.
I mean, it really did amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Recently, it's come out in two things, one that stem
cells have been seen out of cure HIV cure HIV
and another I saw I just read another one today
that happened again today, right and then Brett Michaels is
one of.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
My best friends and he's a diabetic and he was.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Just showing me that they were able to cure diabetes
in Shanghai with stem cells.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, so you know, just.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I don't know, I kind of look at this and go,
how far away are we from I know you're treating
right now, right, a lot of stuff that goes on
in our bodies, but that's diseases.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
How far away we, like, you know, origins is readily available,
right and for people if it's cost effective for you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
How far away we from stem cells being more readily
available for things like diabetes and HIV.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And and what else? Is it now being proven to
be able to cure? Not just not really from cure,
is what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, this is the fun piece, right, and it's almost
it's almost from uh, I forget the law right now.
But essentially, what you're seeing is you're seeing the doubling
of acceleration from technology when it comes into biologics, particularly nanotechnology,
and that's the spaces we play, and so we're moving
faster and faster every year. So as far as that goes,
we're saying that first hand, we treat diabetes one and
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two when you start looking at where this can go,
because we're using mesentymal stem cells located in that same
on biblical board or a lot of other good things,
whether you're talking about in case cells, natural piller cells,
we're talking about fantom selves. There's a lot more pull
out of it. And that's where our research and development
team is currently working because we are taking the onus
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off of creating a chemical and placing into your body
to maintain life, as opposed to actually go into the
root cause of it. And that's what we're trying to
get to. So what kind of onto HIV when it
comes down to cancer right and you hate to even
discuss cancer on here yet, but that is coming. It's
something that there is significant money and research that we're
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doing and putting behind that right now. Because themselves are
great for anything that is caused by information, which is
essentially everything that bothers you except for cancer. And so
that's the next route we're going down, is that path.
So when you see these whether it's out of Shanghai
or different areas, they are doing a very good job.
I'm going to be straightforward as CEO. I'm much more
conservative probably than they are, making sure that we are
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doing all of the free clinical work downe the laboratory
beforehand before introducing that to a human. But the fact
is that is coming and the use of artificial intelligence
AI is allowing us to move and to really condense
numbers and studies so much faster than we could have
in the past. There's a genome study that has two
hundred and eighty five thousand different map genes that we
(30:20):
need to put together. That would have taken us ten
months beforehand. We did it in about ten hours recently.
And so you start looking at that and how it's
able to condense and actually pull out and use machine
learning to fact check. Now, it doesn't replace the scientist,
it doesn't replace the doctor, but it lets us get
to findings much quicker. It allows us to pivot and
improve our hypothesis or create a new one, or to
move this forward. So to your point, and this is
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where it gets so essential that we break down some
of these misconceptions. Once people can stand behind what this
is and have a better understanding of it, the sooner
we can move to those revolutionary changes. Now for the
individual that has Parkinson's that we can help. It's a
revolutionary change for them right now, right but it needs
to more widely known and available. But for all these others,
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these ones that are without a cure, and that is
so much with stem cells going towards whether it's mezen
chim or others. But how do we approach and actually
fix a problem that right now is considered and curable
because it's already happening, but it needs the support and
it needs the support of regulators. This is where we
try to submit ourselves. We want everyone to come in
and regulate us. We beg the FDA to come down here,
(31:24):
come walk through our lab. We are the finest laboratory.
You're going to see it. We outdo most of the
labs that are in hospitals in the United States. But
come down and check us so we can stand behind
this and then take this evidence and hand it over
to the best and the brightest to create that collaboration.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So folks, for you're going down to origins and you're
getting treatment.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The lab he's talking about is literally the wall behind
you and it's glass, so you see everything. You have
the scientist working back there, and you take blood and
the process is about three days where you get blood
the first day and then there's three, so it's four days,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's three days of treatment. After I got my back injected.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
The second time I went, I went for my vocal cords,
which were able to do with a nebulave, which definitely helped.
And then and just when that was from folks I
had ten years ago, I was at Cedar Sana and
uh Or a satellite operating room from there, and both
my lungs aspirated and try to save my life, they
shoved the tube down to clip my vocal cord and
(32:21):
my voice was really raspy, way raspier in January that
it is now not in the close and justin my
producer who's who's listened to this, said it probably a
month after I'd come back, Like dude, I could tell
them noticeable difference.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So I'm done for that. But I again I did
in my back. I did that.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's three days, ivys, folks, and then it's you know
one it's you know, ten seconds of injections of where
else you're looking to help at the not there's old
vocal cords that was done with.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
A with a mask. But the other thing I really
in this. I'm gonna kind of leave it off here.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The thing that I've really now, I've gone twice that
and i've gotten out with my wife Rosie. But what
I've really seen, major, major, major gains, and my friends
have all seen it within the past month or two
is the anti aging effects my skin, the bags under
(33:17):
my eyes. I'm not a big botox guy or anything
like that. I'm just you know, I'm not a plastic
surgery dude. So I've just kind of been relying on this,
and I would always like, hey, you know, look, I'm
a brizzle dude.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'm an age. I'm an age. But it's definitely I've
known a difference with the wrinkles and the bags in
my house, but also just my overall energy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So we're gonna keep doing it just for the anti
aging effects. Look, Rosie, my wife, she's a fucking vampire.
She looks same as she did nineteen as she does now.
You can't tell, but her energy is higher than it
had been, and that's you know, her admitting that. But
the anti aging part, to me is the part that
I have really seen, Like, man, this I feel like
it's turning back the hands of time and my work
(34:00):
outs are you know, I now run these two hundred
steps in Malibu, just so you know, before I went
to Origins once, I couldn't urdly walk up steps like a.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Lot of at all MutS us run.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I could never hike or do anything incline because I
hurt my back so much and it caused all this
nervous pain, just nerve pain. And now I'm running two
hundred steps set to them in Malibu with her several
times a week, and at the same time just feeling
looking younger. So just real quick here talk about even
(34:32):
if someone doesn't have the injuries, the anti aging effects
of these metal commo stem cells.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah no, and thank you, just you know you are
looking fantastic. I really do than fantastic nowhere as beautiful
as your wife. But that's a that's a high arms
totally different. Yep, very simple. We are all human beings
are We're big bags of cells, truly right, and as
we ourselves giddle, they deteriorate and they die. They get
(34:59):
beat up from fighting in them a, they get beat
up from drinking alcohol. They get beat up from environmental
causes like smog in the air, whatever it may be.
Your cells start to weaken, they stop the community, stop communicating,
and they start to die. That's when you get those
aches and pains. That's when you get that hollowed out features.
That's when your collagen starts to drop away. When we
introduce a basic anti aging protocol, that's what we call it,
(35:20):
we have quite a few people who come through strictly
to continue feeling their best. What we're doing is we
are well, once they're turning back the clock, you can't
go back in time, so we don't call it anti aging.
We call it healthy aging. But what we can do
is essentially retrain your cells. So we're giving you these
youthful cells that utterly are then moving into your body
and starting to again repair any sort of rips, tears,
(35:42):
things you may not even be aware of, including things
like you'll see your blood pressure come down, you'll see
your vitals improve, your oxygen rates pop up, so you're
getting more oxygen, you get more energy, you start to
you start to have more vitality and more elasticity in
your skin and your face, and you get that youthful
kind of glow that from it. And that is a
natural side effect of exactly what these do because we're
(36:05):
dropping your inflammation. Your body is starting to go back
to work. We're bringing yourselves back to their peak state
and their peak form where they're going across and repairing
and feeling good, which then is also letting you sleep better,
it's letting your mind be at ease. All these are
very basic things are essentially taking your body as age
back to its prime. Right, you're still your age, but
(36:27):
your body now is operating off of cells that are
much younger. So it's a it is a natural form
of a plastic surgery, the one that's actually improving things
you can't see. I mean, Jay, your liver function, your kidneys,
your lungs, your pometery, your brain, everything now is actually
functioning better than it was before your first trip down here,
(36:48):
and you recognize and how it manifests how you feel
during your workout. But we follow it very closely with
objective vital signs. We track how people are going, whether
it's to wearable technology, whether it's through before and after
MRI scams, and you see the improvement happening. And that's
the piece that you know. Someone comes down for a
bum knee right, their knee feels there, they go thank you.
(37:08):
Then it's three months later they call that and go
we just realized that my shoulder a little longer hurts
the tendon ie or that that the ten and ie.
My shoulder is gone, the ringing in my ears has faded,
and I'm sleeping better. And it's all those off target
benefits that you start realizing have accumulated over the years.
So thank you for bringing that up well.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And here last question, because look, Origins is not it's
not cheap.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's pricey, and I'll let you if anybody wants to
find out the price, you can go to their website,
which is uh origins dot com, au R A G
E n S dot com and reach out unless you.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Want to no, it's fine. So here's the thing, is
we what we do competitively is less than it would
cost in the United States. It's just we are not
covered by insurance. That's it. So bear in mind that
way is that it is so our treatments start in
the high twenty thousands unless you are a child or
a vet, in which case we do everything we can
(38:07):
and we take it to just help. Right, that's our
get back and we try to make it work.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And but that includes at least for me.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right, it's it's hotel and car service and concierge and
through Panama City for me, like we're looking for property
down there. Now, you know that we love it. We
throw love, throll in love with the people. It's safe,
they use the American dollar.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
We loved it. But my question you is how far
off we from it?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Like it's not fair that Elliot, you know, something like
this would cost caused a combat vet, you know, in
the high twenty to heal him from something when he
was a hero. How far off whether there's decades or
centuries whatever, where it's going to be offered in America
and a cheap basis where it can help the world.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
So that's our entire mission, right, That's why Again, whether
it's our science, whether it's our clinicians, we try to
be very transparent. We talked about pricing. We're very open
with it. Jay, As you mentioned, part of the reason
we built this center to be four Ethans meets Johns Hopkins,
and I think we did a very good job with
that because I don't want you coming down here and
thinking about anything else other than feeling good. So we
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take any burden off from the pickups at the airport,
the five star accommodations to the day chap restaurants, all that,
how long until gets in there. That's why I'm on
this podcast. This is why our entire team travels to
AABB conferences, the FBA, We work with our lobbyists, We
talk to anybody that we can, because everybody has a
need for this across the US, and rule scale with volume,
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the pricing drives waight down. We start looking at what
we're spinning and go back to my statement before and
how much it goes out to Medicare and Medicaid. If
there was a prophylactic treatment using mezen kind of stem
cells each year, that overall payment that's going from our
US talk stars to Medicare and Medicaid would shrink. It
would pay for itself. In the map of two three years,
(40:02):
we're talking about seventy percent reduction in cost. What needs
to change the way you'll look at me, it's a
five to seven year window before we truly get the
opportunity to bring this into the US. From there, probably
another five to seven years. I may be a little
bit off, So I think you're going to see this
in ten to fifteen years truly available. Now that's where
the education comes from, because it needs to be done
(40:24):
at the highest possible levels, because again no two sem
cell lines are the thing and needs to be brought
to the US by the people who truly care and
stand behind it the right way, and so it has
to be available. It's two side notes from the chairman
of the nonprofit that only takes care of veterans and
the unhoused. Right, we just received a six and a
(40:45):
half million dollar endowment to be backed by another ten
million dollar dowment. So my time is split between here
at Origins or we're seeing people who we're changing lives
and curing the uncurable, but it's an expensive out of
pocket opportunity because it's not covered by insurance. On the
flip side, we're taking care of those who otherwise have
no access to medicine and are are unable to really
(41:07):
afford to do the most basic treatments of the care.
Right you're watching them end up on the streets with
things that they cannot overcome. And so for me, it's
a passion play to bring those two together and get
healthcare available to all, but not just any healthcare, not
just prescription medications, but the best possible things to make
humanity the best possible version of itself.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Man, listen, I'm so grateful towards Just look when I
first got hit by person, not you, you know, your
VP over there, I told them straight out I hate
false hope, and if I felt like I went down
there and it was false hope, I was gonna let
the world know it's full of shit. I was gonna
blast it because I hate false hope. But nothing has
(41:50):
affected my pain and my life more than this. So
I said, on flip side, I hate false hope.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
And I'll let everybody know shit.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But if it worked for me, I will be the
biggest cheerleader to go get other people help.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
But the fact that you guys and said now we
would do this. We'll bring in your friend Elie Ruiz
and we'll pay for him because he's a hero. That
just showed me who you guys are.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And also the fact that you turned out a friend
of mine who had a existing medical condition who is
a monstrous name and Brandon would have been for you
to have him down there, You're like, nope, because we
don't know how it's going to affect this other condition
that would a long way for me also.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And know what your integrity was. So I have no
problem being a cheerleader for Origins.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And I plan to come back down with my wife
the day after the super Bowl every year. That'll be
my super Bowl, Oh super Bowl vacation, because you guys
lined up last d I went down for my vocal cords.
Obviously it was great for me, but then you lined
up for Rosie and I to go to a place
called Pearl Island for another five days, five days and
just relax. And I just I love the people of
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Panama and I really appreciate what you guys have done
for my life.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
We can't thank you for that. Appreciate the advocacy. Just
we only want people out there who truly understand and
stand behind us for the right reasons, and that's you. Also,
I appreciate the forty nine er helmet.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Behind your heads. You're right at home and.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
We're gonna have We're gonna finish this year out strong.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
So I like it. Dann Bricks, thanks to you own
president of Origins.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Thanks for joining me, buddy, Appreciate your time
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer, and look the next guest I'm bringing on.
I'm bringing them up for more information about something that
I've been asked about a lot. I have really been
open about my success with mesyl kinmal stem cells down
in Panama and a place called Origins. But I'm not
a doctor, and you know, I can just tell people
(00:37):
what has worked for me, what's worked for other people
that I've sent down to. It has been a game
changer for me. But the more we can educate people
out there, to show them something like this is out there,
I think it really could be helpful.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So I went to the top.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Our guest today on Unbreakable is doctor Dan Briggs. He
is the president and the CEO of Origins, which is
a stem cell place that I go to in Panama,
Panama City. He's also on the editorial board of the
Journal of Stem Cell Research, five time Amazon best Selling
author in Biotechnology, and current Healthcare.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Executive of the Year in Nevada.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So I really appreciate you joining me dead by all
those accolades.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm surprised you could fit me on your busy schedule.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Jay, absolutely anything for our number one patient.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You need number one. I think I was one of
your first yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Number one patient right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Right, well, myself and Jeremy Shockey, which was cool for
me to go down and see Shaki there and to
hear what it helped with him stem cells. And I
hadn't known this, but he had gone through, you know,
some really bad neurological stuff after playing football.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And he was like, dude, I don't have it anymore.
I'm like, come on, I'm like just like that. He's like,
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And I went down to Origins, folks, I was a
week away from a three level fusion in my back.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I have no more L four, L five. I've ruptured
it so many times it doesn't exist. So it's bone
on bone, spawn on small on the nerves. And they
either wanted to put a rod in or three.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Level fusion, which is when I elected. And I said,
I'm gonna throw up a hell Mary and go down
here to Origins.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I walked in at about forty five degrees and
I've had nerve pain for my first ruptures around the
year two thousand on, and you guys changed my life,
so I kind of want to want and I knew
I was a super responder. I know most people don't.
It doesn't take two days to work.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
For me.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It did and I haven't look back. But at the
same right, I'll tell you this, folks, I had a
I would say.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Botched ankle surgery. I broke my ankle twice and it
was going into two different fight camps.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
With two guys. I was training with Tyron Woodley and
Randy g. Tour.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So I just booted it and continued camp. And when
surgery finally came around a year later.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
First, I woke up during the surgery, which wasn't fun, but.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Second of all, it left my ankle looking like a grapefruit,
like a beach ball for the next twelve years. Five
months after my treatment with you guys, my wife Rosie
looked down and said, your ankle looks normal, and I
didn't realize it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I think that's the way it's really supposed to
work with my right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But Doc, I want you to kind of kind of
give us this for people who are learning about this,
just learning about this, tell everybody what origins does and
what why this is different than I guess it's a
different question. Why is different when I've had friends say, oh,
I've gotten stem cell in America and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's not the same thing, so kind of help us
out here.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
No, and you teeter it up very nicely and once again,
grateful that you've had these responses. And yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Why you're grateful. You figure out what I feel.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, and you're not a road now you you responded faster.
We tend to set expectations closer to a two three
month range to really start feeling these effects. But that's
very simply because this is biology. Biology is not an
exact science, because every single living organism is unique, right,
and so you're going to see different response rate based
(04:02):
on what we give you and how it's done. It
will lead into a few of the questions you just asked.
So because mister Shockey is very open about his time
with us and continued to return, so I feel comfortable
talking about him. He's given us grace for him. It
really is that cognitive function, right, the synaptic plasticity, and
you've experienced as well, from just your first night going
(04:22):
back and going to sleep and sleeping to night for
the first eight hours for the first decades exactly. And
so what we're putting into is really helping to quell
those cytokine responses and to put you at ease, and
a big piece that then leads into not only the
physical manifestation of pain, but also, being on this particular podcast,
the mental side of it. It allows you to almost
(04:45):
ease off the gas and to take a deep breath,
and it calms the storm that's going on the side
of your head. And we see that both from the
kind of outward manifestation of symptoms and someone who's constantly
thinking about the pain they're in or on diabetes side,
the constant need to check your levels to make see
where you're at almost causes a mental deterioration in that state.
(05:06):
And as we are able to address those, you see
it actually manifest both mentally and physically and improvement well being.
So teeing it up kind of on where you stood
on this and this is where it gets real interesting.
This is the fun part is really what led us
to this because you ask, and I think really since
twenty twenty, COVID people taking a much more active and
(05:27):
engage role in their own health and starting to really
look at it as a more integral part of their
light lives and not just leaving up. Their doctors are
being more curious as to what mesen chymal stem cell
treatments are. So let me start by saying this is
themselves were first identified way back in nineteen oh eight.
A yeah, these have been around for a long time.
(05:48):
A Russian scientist discovered nineteen oh eight, name them ongoing
slow growth. Really wasn't until nineteen ninety one one gentleman
named doctor Kaplan identified mesen chymal stem cells. Recognize these
they basically it's having these modulatory effects where they can
actually move into and create tissue repair, cartilage, muscle growth.
(06:08):
Over the next twenty years, these advancements became rapid, and
so it's my way of saying where we're at now
is we're standing on the shoulders of a lot of years,
one hundred plus years of understand from the scientific side
and about thirty five years of clinical actual use creating
the evidence behind these not just anecdotal. Where you're at
and jail puts you into this group. But where origins
(06:31):
comes at it, it's trying to sell a lot of
the misinformation that exists in the space. Because this process
you mentioned the US themselves we do is not allowed
in the United States yet it will be, but it
is not yet. We can get into why that is
here momentarily, but what that's caused is a gray area,
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a lot of misinformation, a lot of pseudo science being used.
I'll call them snake oil salesmen who are selling a
product or selling a dream that is not realistic. I
watch competitors in the faith come out and promise the
world in reality this is this is medicine. This is
a biologic medicine is going to go in and repair
your cartilage. It's going to help you know modulation, help
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you feel healthier, can help your neuroplasticity. We can focus
these based on where you're at, and this is based
on years and years and years. But because of the
lack of oversight done by the US, many others in
this field have taken license with that and create a
lot of misinformation. That's really one of our tenants. Our
mission is to answer these questions and then publish.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So what's the difference though, because you're saying mes kamo
and people don't know what that is. What's the difference
between the stem cells somewhere you get in America and
messal commo stem cells where you would get right pretty
much anywhere else in the world. But America, Am I
correct there?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Or let me let me break this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Not every country, I guess a lot of countries.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's some countries. So now here's the thing is, no
two stem cell lines are the same, thank them like
a snowflake. No two people are the same. So each
one has this proprietary process. It's part of the reason
why we're we have such successful patient outcomes is that
we've developed such a good stem cell line. And that's
what we're utilize. That's through our media, that's to our
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scientists and our doctors, our positions, and the application of it.
In the United States, what you were allowed to do
is essentially at a post or bone marrow stem cells.
So we're going into your into your hip and withdrawing
essentially your bone marrow.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So you're taking my own stem cell, which is the
last thing I want is my own fucked up stem
cells put back in me. Trust me. It's the last
thing I want.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah. We've lived our lives right like it takes a
lot of experience to get to point our lives, I know,
yeah yeah, and I want you to go leave that behind.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Mesenchymal stem cells are brand new universal donors essentially, so
we are working with mothers as they enter their second
trimester of pregnancy. Screen mothers do out. We're actually in
the operator room as they give birth via cesarean section.
We take the cord, the umbilical cord, bring it back
to our laboratory. The mother goes home with a healthy baby,
(09:07):
So we're essentially taking what would have been a medical
waste otherwise. At that point, we started dissecting it, with
drawing Warden's jelly and replicating these and locating and identifying
to the characteristics. Mezzen chymals themselves very specific, has certain
markers that are required to be considered an NSC or
mezen chymal and some that it must lack. And when
we get exactly what we need, we're able to then
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focus in to pull out the characteristics that we want
to give you the best possible results. That is the
part that is illegal in the United States. And I
understand why it was initially done well, based in a
two thousand and one doctrine by George W. Bush. He
did it based on the information of what he had
at the time. There's been a lot of evolution since
where now we're using umbilical cords from healthy born babies.
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At the time we were looking at what we're essentially
aborted fetuses. Two entirely different worlds and one that we
still address today ethically sourced versus something else that is
much more controversial.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So but obviously people in America know that medical commal
stem cells work because when you give birth in America,
you're allowed to keep your umbilical cord and use the
you know, and have them stored for stem cels. But
if it's not legal here, how.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Do they use them? Do they have to go to
Panama to get them done?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You can use them strictly for yourself, so for you
for it, Okay, So you work blood and it's limited
in the application, So think of this way. If it's
a blood borne disease, it will work for you potentially
right now, they're how they're stored, where they're maintained. I
would I've asked people exercise caution with which company they go.
With that being said, there is value to it. Now
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these are ourselves and as in kindal stem cells that
we extract are immunal privileged, meaning when they enter your body,
there are no HLA issues. They do not get rejected.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There are no what's what's what's HLA? I don't know
what you got? Hey, you're talking to a guy with
a two point three gpa and stop it.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
So essentially the break it down on Layman's terms. If
you were going you hear about people trying to get
matched up, whether it be for a liver or any
sort of organ transplant.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So in that there's a whole process go will this
body accept this person's liver?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And that's because we have a certain field typing markers
that either accept and allow it to actually take hold,
or your body is natural response and get something foreign
into it is to reject it. It's trying to protect you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So your immune system ramps up and says there's an
object inside of me that shouldn't be here, and it
will kill off that liver or we'll kill off those cells.
And that is one of the very unique things mesent
tym will stem cells. They're unal privileged, so essentially they're
a universal cell. When we place this into your body,
and we do it over a very specific course of time,
so hopefully your body can initially look at them, essentially
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do their check and say these are acceptable, and then
they start ture into your own cells and they start
moving through your body. Right, And these are targeted migration,
which means when they see inflammation or they see an issue,
they actually are drawn to that issue where then they
take root and they start to go to work.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Not only so they know where to go in your body.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yep, so they're drawn to So think of these selves.
They just spent their last ten months of their lives
creating a human out of thin air. Right, it's simple
to put it right. And so everything they're checking, they
have checklist. They are their ten fingers or they're ten toes.
Two years partledge good, everything's going to work. Cool, babies out,
oven dinger goes off, baby comes out. So when we
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take this, that's the mode they're in. So they're just
continuing on. So now they're going into your body. Let's
saying okay, we're in Jay Glazer. They don't care who
you are. And they're going, well, okay, ten fingers, ten toes, gosh,
we really messed up the spinal cord. We better get
to work on it. And that's how they go in
and they start to do exactly what they have been doing.
And that's what that's what the most interesting thing about
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this is we're not creating anything. We're taking exactly the
biology that has been programmed to do this, making sure
it's extremely pure, or protecting it, chain of custody into
the patient and let it go to work. And once
you start thinking about that, when you start realizing how
truly fundamental this is, and that begs the question why
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is this not more widely understood to this point? So, yeah,
that question why I'm asking you that question?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Why is it not more widely understood?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I actually got a text from some of the other
days saying I don't know if I could get behind this,
and I'm like, should I know what?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Help you?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And and someone else? But so, yeah, answer you can
help us with that question.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, well, I think again it goes back twofold. I
think really one is because it's been operating in this
unregulated environment has created a lot of questionable actors, pseudo
science and really a big profit margin for a lot
of companies who have been in business right and they
will put out videos, they will do podcasts that are
(13:54):
entirely disingenuous. If it's a competitor Watches, of course, I'm
not talking about you, but in general have been some
very questionable people in this source and that's where we
try to come into is really open source. Show exactly
how we do it. We follow every single possible protocol
we can from the US, whether it's FDA, aabb cGMP,
all initials that don't matter, to basically one that oversees
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tissue blood regulations through our laboratories. We follow here in
Panama City as though we were in the US. That
way we can bring this evidence to the United States
and it becomes irrefutable. That's one that hasn't It was
too profitable for people to actually care enough to put
this into the public domain. That's where we flip the
script on this and why we want to help bring
it to you in your neighborhood. Jas You don't have
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to necessarily come down here, come visits some PanAm up
a vacation, but when you don't feel well or someone
who can't travel Panama. There should be widely available to
all and at volume. It would be something should be
covered by insurance because it will be a major prophylactic
or preventative care for individuals either. The second point, why
is this non the US major disruption of profit lines? Right, So,
(15:01):
for better or worse, we live in a capitalist society
that drives and is driven by quarterly results. There is
a lot of future dollars to be made by everyone, physicians,
insurance companies, pharma. As this progresses, however, will there will
be a six to eight quarter disruption, a two year
disruption that is going to cause issues.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Why?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well, because all of a sudden, the cocks won cocks
two blockers people utilize no longer necessary, a lot of
the anti inflammatories gone, these surgery avoidance no longer the.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Big farm up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, the meds that I was on now on need
or think about a three level fusion. They're not making
money off that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, okay, So so last year United Healthcare more largest
insurance companies made gross three hundred and seventy two billion
dollars right, twenty two and a half billion profits. It's
a large number. Their CEO made twenty three billion dollars.
Twenty billion of that was in stock options. Now imagine
if he has to go back and explain why he
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has taken a seventy percent haircut next year, which is
what this would translate into as you start going into it.
And that's the reason. Here's I am all for a
for profit industry. Here's why I call out the United
Healthcare is of the world. Are the teams of the world.
Of that three hundred and seventy two million dollars that
United Healthcare brought in last year, two hundred and eighty
(16:24):
two billion of it came from Medicare and Medicaid payments,
which is tax period dollars. That's you and I pay
in for those who otherwise don't have access to medicine.
And I oversee I oversee clinics throughout the US as well.
And I'll tell you what the care being provided by
people receive Medicare and Medicare is not top tier. A
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lot of people rejected, but that's seventy five percent of
their profit basis. It is eighty five percent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So I want to get into Look, I've said that
it origin is great enough to come to me and said, hey,
we want to bring down some about vets, say you
did a lot of work with combat vets. We're all yours.
You help us out. Let's got us through the first one.
I know you guys are doing something big coming up here.
The first one was a friend of mine named Elliott Ruieves,
who his unit helped save American POWs. But he's since
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I've known him, he couldn't put.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
His own pants on.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And you know, he got hurt in the process of
that mission. He's had I think sixteen surgeries and his
left leg he got multiple sclerosis. Now his right foot
doesn't work, he has drop foot, and we origins and
I'm grateful for you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We paid for his flight, his his airfare, his hotel,
all his treatments to help with the MS and the injuries.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And again I I'm still learning as it goes. And
Elliott called me two months after saying I don't know
what to saying, like what He's like, my right foot
is working, and I was like, you think it's a
placebo effect? He said, it can't be, like my nerve
didn't work in that foot. And then I saw I
(17:59):
flew him end a woman who they rescued one of
the POWs.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
SHAWNA. Johnson.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I flew him and his team and her out to
Malibu last in March to have a reunion, to meet
for the first time since that mission. Promised him I would.
They came on the podcast. I'm like, wow, they haven't
met since. It was like they rescued it. They pulled
her out of captivity. It's twenty two days, got her
on a helicopter and got her a helicopter and immediately
(18:26):
got her help and they went back and fought, and
Elliett was done. But the rest of his teammates wealth
they never met after that. Well, he shows up to
my house and again this guy worked out an unbreakable
He was my first I helped him before I helped anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
He was like one of the guys he helped get
started from the charity I found an MVP. So I've
not known him to be able to walk, you know,
with his right foot, or to put his pants on
by himself. And this his self admittedly, And not only.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Did he walk into my house with moving his right
foot for the first time, but three weeks before that
he did it tough Mutter race, which is not just
a race, folks, It's where you're lugging stuff on your
shoulders and you're going through all these different obstacle courses
for dude who come put his own pants on. So,
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which is just so a I'm grateful you guys did
that for God considered her brother.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I can't thank you enough for be Tell me in
Stemsili's if you will, like, where did it work? What
was he able to do? What did it attack?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
How was he able to go from where he was
in the ten years I've known him to now being
able to do a tough mutter? That was for me,
Like when people ask me about this, I'm like, look,
I can only tell you my experience, and whether you
believe it or not, that's on you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But this cat, it's like, there's no no, there's no
placebo effect, there's no second guessing of what it did
for this guy.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
No. And obviously that's the reason we do this, right,
It's the reason we have so many American positions and
people who've made their lives in Panama because we understand
we're creating that evidence that then we're able to take
that to the US. Right, and specifically, it's Elliott's one
of a kind, one the most gracious incredible human like
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he showed up and we all met him and said
we have better help him. Like he is. He shows
up with his daughter and he just does all I
want to do is carry my daughter, right, And you go, Okay,
we're going to do this and we're going to help
him get that piece back and to be a friend,
he worked very hard on his own. Right. We gave
him the tools to get him mobile, and then he
(20:34):
took at the next twenty yards right a very simply put,
he had the number of issues which I want to
be cautious of discussing because obviously on that piece, but
he has well there's multiple sclerosis, right, and what we
saw there with his drop and where that's going. Part
of what stem cells do, what mesentimal stem cells are doing,
is they're helping to regrow and reactivate the nerve endings.
(20:56):
So when we even even into your procedure and what
we do with lumbar chronic lumbar pain, we're going into
the facet joints where essentially the ends of the nerves
are sitting there braid and we're delivering them there and
we're administering so it can pick them up and go
and it's starting to then remove the inflammation around it,
or in his case, around the nerves that was causing
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the drop foot, and it's starting to actually regrow and
repair not only the nerves that damaged cartilage, tissue, ligaments throughout,
and so it's one of.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Those pieces it is grown the nerve.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Oh yeah, absolutely, wow, that's capability of doing that. And
this is this is where, without naming the university, we
had a very well known US university initially came to
us that you can have our patient. We don't necessarily believe,
and it drives me nuts a lot to say, we
don't believe. This isn't a religion. I'm gonna show you
before and after, and when you come out of it,
you tell me whether it worked right science And so
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we go through it, and they did. They had their
MRIs beforehand and their AMRIS seven months later. At seven
months this surgeon at a well known universe could looked
at and said, okay, doctor Briggs, I'm in I this
looks like it was a surgical repair. We cannot see
as though there were an injury here. It actually went
without anything being invasive, at which point I called them friendlies.
(22:11):
He helped upload a video on his behalf. Basically big in
the question of we understand the science here is real.
There are decades of history and papers, studies, research periodviewed
journals to support it, but we do not have the
evidence in the US. Evidence being clinical trials, clinical studies
with actual person ABMC going through it like we did
(22:32):
with your case, Jays. So, Jay, you are part of
a clinical group that we came out with an eighty
four percent improvement across the board. You're one of a
large group and that has been peer reviewed and published.
But that is what it takes to get this brought
to the US. When you get to someone like Elliott
very simply put, he is a prime candidate for someone
that otherwise would have been going through And he came
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down here, had gone through twelve or thirteen surgery today.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Surgery avoidance, picked up his daughter and walked out of here.
He's competing again. I mean, this is why it's so important,
and that is why I'm always available. I told you
that anytime you want to talk about these things, I
will be available because we have to get the real
message out there and get people at least curious enough
to dig into the real information, and so we chase,
chasing me where we can to truly publish this guy
(23:20):
and help educate because the more people know the student,
this becomes more available to a larger population.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to read a text that I got from
somebody who I had recommended to go down there, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Not going to say the names.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I don't have to think you guys knew I
was the one who recommended her until I sent you,
guys a text, didn't right, Yeah, nope. This person writes
about her husband. She said, I researched heavily many options
for biblical cord stem cell treatment centers and were brought
my husband to Origins and Panama. His improvements are substantial
(23:57):
in so many ways. He has fusions, stage arthritis, have
been blowing out muscles, sitting in a chairs due to
floro quit alone toxicity. Origins was the ones that suggested
what was happening with this toxicity, not US doctors, which
is upsetting. And by the way, this person posted this
on our social media, so that's why I'm reading this.
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He has had twenty seven surgeries that included open heart
two told him to these at the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Hip replacement in the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He was an endless pain and his doctors wanted him
to go to pain management doctor, which he refused to
do because their treatment idea was pain mets. He is
now a new person, looks great, feels fantastic. He has
use of his toes and fingers again. His bone spurs
in his neck made him cough or sneeze when he ate,
It has stopped. No more blown out muscles so far,
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His eyes have improved. The cracking noise when he moved
his finger and joints has all but subsided. His shaking
has stopped in his arm and hands from nerve damage.
His energy level was incredible, having just turned I'm seventy
years old and his treatment was early April, so this is,
you know, just a few months to have to have
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results like that is incredible. What's the most.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I guess jarring thing that you've seen since you've been
doing this, if somebody went from A to Z.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah, absolutely love that. When you sent that to us,
I had no idea. That was a referral from you,
and so obviously we treat everyone same and to the end,
with that patient, we identified what the underlying issues were.
Because the medications they had put him on oz muscle tears,
massive degeneration, and the fact that it was something we
(25:46):
looked at immediately, and we do very again because we
understand that we're carrying the mantle. We can make no missteps. Right,
We're at the forefront of the regena degenerative medicine field.
We have an stellar reputation. We have to maintain that.
So we do clinical consensus groups for every patient, meaning
all the doctors, all the scientists get around look at
every individual patient, go what are we looking at? How
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do we best help this patient? Right? And so we
identified that early on the fact that had never been
relayed to them was concerned. So the results from that
are absolutely what we expect to see. So that's fantastic
across the board. Oh boy, there have been Okay, my
favorite story, it's probably it's not necessarily that I'm going
to call it miraculous, but there was again another military
(26:29):
that seventy two years old, was in here, served this country, retired.
He had been in intense pain, whether it be a
flop neuropathy to really was his shoulders and back. He
had one request, he said, documents, I want to be
able to drink a Miller Light with my friends at
the VA and he went, well, then drink it. He goes,
I can't lift my arms to drink the beer.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Wow, okay. And so this is one of those ones
that happened, very quippy, and it sticks with me. And
so he came in on Monday on Friday, he grabs
me before he goes, he literally walks up to a wall,
puts both hands up to the wall and goes, look
at this. He goes both hands up, no pain. And
since then he sent us no less than ten different
pictures of himself with the Miller life. But it's one
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of those pieces where you go, it was the simplest
thing and one one piece of enjoyment you want to
get back to someone who served the country and he
is continually just thrilled to be able to do so.
And so it's those it's those smaller ones sometimes that
just stick with you and go. It changed his life.
I mean, it really did amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Recently, it's come out in two things, one that stem
cells have been seen out of cure HIV cure HIV
and another I saw I just read another one today
that happened again today, right and then Brett Michaels is
one of.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
My best friends and he's a diabetic and he was.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Just showing me that they were able to cure diabetes
in Shanghai with stem cells.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, so you know, just.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I don't know, I kind of look at this and go,
how far away are we from I know you're treating
right now, right, a lot of stuff that goes on
in our bodies, but that's diseases.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
How far away we, like, you know, origins is readily available,
right and for people if it's cost effective for you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
How far away we from stem cells being more readily
available for things like diabetes and HIV.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
And and what else? Is it now being proven to
be able to cure? Not just not really from cure,
is what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, this is the fun piece, right, and it's almost
it's almost from uh, I forget the law right now.
But essentially, what you're seeing is you're seeing the doubling
of acceleration from technology when it comes into biologics, particularly nanotechnology,
and that's the spaces we play, and so we're moving
faster and faster every year. So as far as that goes,
we're saying that first hand, we treat diabetes one and
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two when you start looking at where this can go,
because we're using mesentymal stem cells located in that same
on biblical board or a lot of other good things,
whether you're talking about in case cells, natural piller cells,
we're talking about fantom selves. There's a lot more pull
out of it. And that's where our research and development
team is currently working because we are taking the onus
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off of creating a chemical and placing into your body
to maintain life, as opposed to actually go into the
root cause of it. And that's what we're trying to
get to. So what kind of onto HIV when it
comes down to cancer right and you hate to even
discuss cancer on here yet, but that is coming. It's
something that there is significant money and research that we're
(29:35):
doing and putting behind that right now. Because themselves are
great for anything that is caused by information, which is
essentially everything that bothers you except for cancer. And so
that's the next route we're going down, is that path.
So when you see these whether it's out of Shanghai
or different areas, they are doing a very good job.
I'm going to be straightforward as CEO. I'm much more
conservative probably than they are, making sure that we are
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doing all of the free clinical work downe the laboratory
beforehand before introducing that to a human. But the fact
is that is coming and the use of artificial intelligence
AI is allowing us to move and to really condense
numbers and studies so much faster than we could have
in the past. There's a genome study that has two
hundred and eighty five thousand different map genes that we
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need to put together. That would have taken us ten
months beforehand. We did it in about ten hours recently.
And so you start looking at that and how it's
able to condense and actually pull out and use machine
learning to fact check. Now, it doesn't replace the scientist,
it doesn't replace the doctor, but it lets us get
to findings much quicker. It allows us to pivot and
improve our hypothesis or create a new one, or to
move this forward. So to your point, and this is
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where it gets so essential that we break down some
of these misconceptions. Once people can stand behind what this
is and have a better understanding of it, the sooner
we can move to those revolutionary changes. Now for the
individual that has Parkinson's that we can help. It's a
revolutionary change for them right now, right but it needs
to more widely known and available. But for all these others,
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these ones that are without a cure, and that is
so much with stem cells going towards whether it's mezen
chim or others. But how do we approach and actually
fix a problem that right now is considered and curable
because it's already happening, but it needs the support and
it needs the support of regulators. This is where we
try to submit ourselves. We want everyone to come in
and regulate us. We beg the FDA to come down here,
(31:24):
come walk through our lab. We are the finest laboratory.
You're going to see it. We outdo most of the
labs that are in hospitals in the United States. But
come down and check us so we can stand behind
this and then take this evidence and hand it over
to the best and the brightest to create that collaboration.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So folks, for you're going down to origins and you're
getting treatment.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The lab he's talking about is literally the wall behind
you and it's glass, so you see everything. You have
the scientist working back there, and you take blood and
the process is about three days where you get blood
the first day and then there's three, so it's four days,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's three days of treatment. After I got my back injected.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
The second time I went, I went for my vocal cords,
which were able to do with a nebulave, which definitely helped.
And then and just when that was from folks I
had ten years ago, I was at Cedar Sana and
uh Or a satellite operating room from there, and both
my lungs aspirated and try to save my life, they
shoved the tube down to clip my vocal cord and
(32:21):
my voice was really raspy, way raspier in January that
it is now not in the close and justin my
producer who's who's listened to this, said it probably a
month after I'd come back, Like dude, I could tell
them noticeable difference.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So I'm done for that. But I again I did
in my back. I did that.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's three days, ivys, folks, and then it's you know
one it's you know, ten seconds of injections of where
else you're looking to help at the not there's old
vocal cords that was done with.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
A with a mask. But the other thing I really
in this. I'm gonna kind of leave it off here.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The thing that I've really now, I've gone twice that
and i've gotten out with my wife Rosie. But what
I've really seen, major, major, major gains, and my friends
have all seen it within the past month or two
is the anti aging effects my skin, the bags under
(33:17):
my eyes. I'm not a big botox guy or anything
like that. I'm just you know, I'm not a plastic
surgery dude. So I've just kind of been relying on this,
and I would always like, hey, you know, look, I'm
a brizzle dude.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'm an age. I'm an age. But it's definitely I've
known a difference with the wrinkles and the bags in
my house, but also just my overall energy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So we're gonna keep doing it just for the anti
aging effects. Look, Rosie, my wife, she's a fucking vampire.
She looks same as she did nineteen as she does now.
You can't tell, but her energy is higher than it
had been, and that's you know, her admitting that. But
the anti aging part, to me is the part that
I have really seen, Like, man, this I feel like
it's turning back the hands of time and my work
(34:00):
outs are you know, I now run these two hundred
steps in Malibu, just so you know, before I went
to Origins once, I couldn't urdly walk up steps like a.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Lot of at all MutS us run.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I could never hike or do anything incline because I
hurt my back so much and it caused all this
nervous pain, just nerve pain. And now I'm running two
hundred steps set to them in Malibu with her several
times a week, and at the same time just feeling
looking younger. So just real quick here talk about even
(34:32):
if someone doesn't have the injuries, the anti aging effects
of these metal commo stem cells.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah no, and thank you, just you know you are
looking fantastic. I really do than fantastic nowhere as beautiful
as your wife. But that's a that's a high arms
totally different. Yep, very simple. We are all human beings
are We're big bags of cells, truly right, and as
we ourselves giddle, they deteriorate and they die. They get
(34:59):
beat up from fighting in them a, they get beat
up from drinking alcohol. They get beat up from environmental
causes like smog in the air, whatever it may be.
Your cells start to weaken, they stop the community, stop communicating,
and they start to die. That's when you get those
aches and pains. That's when you get that hollowed out features.
That's when your collagen starts to drop away. When we
introduce a basic anti aging protocol, that's what we call it,
(35:20):
we have quite a few people who come through strictly
to continue feeling their best. What we're doing is we
are well, once they're turning back the clock, you can't
go back in time, so we don't call it anti aging.
We call it healthy aging. But what we can do
is essentially retrain your cells. So we're giving you these
youthful cells that utterly are then moving into your body
and starting to again repair any sort of rips, tears,
(35:42):
things you may not even be aware of, including things
like you'll see your blood pressure come down, you'll see
your vitals improve, your oxygen rates pop up, so you're
getting more oxygen, you get more energy, you start to
you start to have more vitality and more elasticity in
your skin and your face, and you get that youthful
kind of glow that from it. And that is a
natural side effect of exactly what these do because we're
(36:05):
dropping your inflammation. Your body is starting to go back
to work. We're bringing yourselves back to their peak state
and their peak form where they're going across and repairing
and feeling good, which then is also letting you sleep better,
it's letting your mind be at ease. All these are
very basic things are essentially taking your body as age
back to its prime. Right, you're still your age, but
(36:27):
your body now is operating off of cells that are
much younger. So it's a it is a natural form
of a plastic surgery, the one that's actually improving things
you can't see. I mean, Jay, your liver function, your kidneys,
your lungs, your pometery, your brain, everything now is actually
functioning better than it was before your first trip down here,
(36:48):
and you recognize and how it manifests how you feel
during your workout. But we follow it very closely with
objective vital signs. We track how people are going, whether
it's to wearable technology, whether it's through before and after
MRI scams, and you see the improvement happening. And that's
the piece that you know. Someone comes down for a
bum knee right, their knee feels there, they go thank you.
(37:08):
Then it's three months later they call that and go
we just realized that my shoulder a little longer hurts
the tendon ie or that that the ten and ie.
My shoulder is gone, the ringing in my ears has faded,
and I'm sleeping better. And it's all those off target
benefits that you start realizing have accumulated over the years.
So thank you for bringing that up well.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And here last question, because look, Origins is not it's
not cheap.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's pricey, and I'll let you if anybody wants to
find out the price, you can go to their website,
which is uh origins dot com, au R A G
E n S dot com and reach out unless you.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Want to no, it's fine. So here's the thing, is
we what we do competitively is less than it would
cost in the United States. It's just we are not
covered by insurance. That's it. So bear in mind that
way is that it is so our treatments start in
the high twenty thousands unless you are a child or
a vet, in which case we do everything we can
(38:07):
and we take it to just help. Right, that's our
get back and we try to make it work.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And but that includes at least for me.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right, it's it's hotel and car service and concierge and
through Panama City for me, like we're looking for property
down there. Now, you know that we love it. We
throw love, throll in love with the people. It's safe,
they use the American dollar.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
We loved it. But my question you is how far
off we from it?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Like it's not fair that Elliot, you know, something like
this would cost caused a combat vet, you know, in
the high twenty to heal him from something when he
was a hero. How far off whether there's decades or
centuries whatever, where it's going to be offered in America
and a cheap basis where it can help the world.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
So that's our entire mission, right, That's why Again, whether
it's our science, whether it's our clinicians, we try to
be very transparent. We talked about pricing. We're very open
with it. Jay, As you mentioned, part of the reason
we built this center to be four Ethans meets Johns Hopkins,
and I think we did a very good job with
that because I don't want you coming down here and
thinking about anything else other than feeling good. So we
(39:17):
take any burden off from the pickups at the airport,
the five star accommodations to the day chap restaurants, all that,
how long until gets in there. That's why I'm on
this podcast. This is why our entire team travels to
AABB conferences, the FBA, We work with our lobbyists, We
talk to anybody that we can, because everybody has a
need for this across the US, and rule scale with volume,
(39:41):
the pricing drives waight down. We start looking at what
we're spinning and go back to my statement before and
how much it goes out to Medicare and Medicaid. If
there was a prophylactic treatment using mezen kind of stem
cells each year, that overall payment that's going from our
US talk stars to Medicare and Medicaid would shrink. It
would pay for itself. In the map of two three years,
(40:02):
we're talking about seventy percent reduction in cost. What needs
to change the way you'll look at me, it's a
five to seven year window before we truly get the
opportunity to bring this into the US. From there, probably
another five to seven years. I may be a little
bit off, So I think you're going to see this
in ten to fifteen years truly available. Now that's where
the education comes from, because it needs to be done
(40:24):
at the highest possible levels, because again no two sem
cell lines are the thing and needs to be brought
to the US by the people who truly care and
stand behind it the right way, and so it has
to be available. It's two side notes from the chairman
of the nonprofit that only takes care of veterans and
the unhoused. Right, we just received a six and a
(40:45):
half million dollar endowment to be backed by another ten
million dollar dowment. So my time is split between here
at Origins or we're seeing people who we're changing lives
and curing the uncurable, but it's an expensive out of
pocket opportunity because it's not covered by insurance. On the
flip side, we're taking care of those who otherwise have
no access to medicine and are are unable to really
(41:07):
afford to do the most basic treatments of the care.
Right you're watching them end up on the streets with
things that they cannot overcome. And so for me, it's
a passion play to bring those two together and get
healthcare available to all, but not just any healthcare, not
just prescription medications, but the best possible things to make
humanity the best possible version of itself.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Man, listen, I'm so grateful towards Just look when I
first got hit by person, not you, you know, your
VP over there, I told them straight out I hate
false hope, and if I felt like I went down
there and it was false hope, I was gonna let
the world know it's full of shit. I was gonna
blast it because I hate false hope. But nothing has
(41:50):
affected my pain and my life more than this. So
I said, on flip side, I hate false hope.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
And I'll let everybody know shit.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But if it worked for me, I will be the
biggest cheerleader to go get other people help.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
But the fact that you guys and said now we
would do this. We'll bring in your friend Elie Ruiz
and we'll pay for him because he's a hero. That
just showed me who you guys are.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And also the fact that you turned out a friend
of mine who had a existing medical condition who is
a monstrous name and Brandon would have been for you
to have him down there, You're like, nope, because we
don't know how it's going to affect this other condition
that would a long way for me also.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And know what your integrity was. So I have no
problem being a cheerleader for Origins.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And I plan to come back down with my wife
the day after the super Bowl every year. That'll be
my super Bowl, Oh super Bowl vacation, because you guys
lined up last d I went down for my vocal cords.
Obviously it was great for me, but then you lined
up for Rosie and I to go to a place
called Pearl Island for another five days, five days and
just relax. And I just I love the people of
(42:55):
Panama and I really appreciate what you guys have done
for my life.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
We can't thank you for that. Appreciate the advocacy. Just
we only want people out there who truly understand and
stand behind us for the right reasons, and that's you. Also,
I appreciate the forty nine er helmet.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Behind your heads. You're right at home and.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
We're gonna have We're gonna finish this year out strong.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
So I like it. Dann Bricks, thanks to you own
president of Origins.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Thanks for joining me, buddy, Appreciate your time
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Jay Glazer
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