February 21, 2025 • 32 mins
This podcast is an exclusive one-on-one live interview with Attorney General #PamBondi at #CPAC 2025. The interview is conducted by #TedCruz and covers a range of topics related to Bondi's role and actions as Attorney General. Here are the key points discussed:
1. Introduction and Context
- Bondi has been the Attorney General for 15 days and discusses her immediate actions and priorities.
2. Restoring Integrity to the #DOJ
- Bondi emphasizes her mission to restore integrity to the Department of Justice (DOJ) and end its politicization.
- She mentions issuing 14 executive orders on her first day, with the primary focus on ending the #weaponization of the DOJ.
3. Support from DOJ Employees
- Bondi notes that many DOJ employees have expressed relief and gratitude for the changes she is implementing.
4. #LawEnforcement and #Crime
- The interview highlights Bondi's efforts to refocus law enforcement agencies on fighting violent crime.
- She discusses the importance of returning to core functions and stopping politicized actions like the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
5. #Immigration and #BorderSecurity
- Bondi addresses the issue of illegal immigration and the actions taken to combat it.
- She mentions the arrest of criminals involved in human smuggling and the designation of cartels as terrorist organizations.
6. #Fentanyl Crisis
- The interview covers the fentanyl crisis and the administration's efforts to stop the flow of drugs into the country.
- Bondi expresses anger at the previous administration's inaction on this issue.
7. #SanctuaryCities and Legal Actions
- Bondi discusses lawsuits against sanctuary cities like New York and Chicago for not complying with federal immigration laws.
- She emphasizes the danger these cities pose to law enforcement and public safety.
8. Challenges and Deep State
- Bondi describes the challenges of dealing with the "deep state" and the resistance within the DOJ.
- She mentions finding large portraits of Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Kamala Harris still hanging in her office.
9. Human Trafficking and Child Protection
- The interview highlights efforts to combat human trafficking and protect children.
- Bondi shares a disturbing story about a "rape tree" and the exploitation of children at the border.
10. Anti-Semitism on College Campuses
- Bondi addresses the rise of anti-Semitism on college campuses and the DOJ's commitment to protecting students.
- She mentions the creation of an October 7th task force to tackle this issue.
11. Pardons and Accountability
- The interview touches on the issue of pardons given by Joe Biden and the lack of accountability for his actions.
- Bondi asserts that no one is above the law and emphasizes the importance of prosecuting violent criminals.
12. Personal Reflections
- Bondi shares her personal commitment to making America safe and her dedication to her role.
- She describes the intense workload and the support from her team and President Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Ted Cruz live from Seapack twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Center. It's uh, I like.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This being our annual time to hang out with fun people.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, it is great to be back with Seapack. And
I gotta say Seapack this year. There is energy, there's excitement.
It turns out winning doesn't suck.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And we have a guest. We have the Attorney General
of the United States, Pam Bondy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
So these guys never invite me to be on their podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
They finally did and I get a jo it in
front of all of you. So this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, Pam, I will tell you that that there is
some good karma to being on this podcast at Seapack
with someone named jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
He's all right for him, sir, he's a great man.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You have been Attorney General fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Day it feels like fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I believe you. And by the way, you just got
some help an hour ago. The Senate just finished confirmation.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I've been on the phone with him NonStop.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I talked to him on the ride over here. He
is going to do fantastic. All right, let's start fifteen days,
You've come into what I think is the single most
important cabinet position in this administration, because we went through
four years of Biden weaponizing the Department of Justice, using
it to attack his enemies and to support his friends.
(01:46):
So let me ask you, come into DOJ. You've got
a mission. You've got a mission to restore integrity to
the department, to end the weaponization and politicization. How do
you do that? How do you get that done?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know the volume, Senator, what concerned me the most.
It's the volume of how bad it was and it
still is. We're working on it. It's day by day
by day. But we've got a team of great people.
And on day one I issued fourteen executive orders, and
number one is the weaponization ends, and it ends now.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And that's what we did.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Let me ask you something. In the fifteen days you've
been there, how many DOJ employees have said something to
the effect of thank God?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
A lot of them, I believe you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Look. I spent four years hearing from a USA's assistant
US attorneys, hearing from FBI agents, hearing from men and
women who believe in the rule of law and were
horrified at the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ,
and so I know for a lot of good, honorable
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men and women who devoted their careers to defending the Constitution,
there's a lot of gratitude that they can get back
to doing their job.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Their core function. And that's thanks to Donald J.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Trump getting back in office, and he gave us a
clear directive make America safe.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And that's what we're going to do. And you know,
these to start with.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The law enforcement agencies talking about cash. These men and
women didn't go to Quantico. They're not risking their lives
to waste their time on all this politicization and rating
mar A Lago. Really stopping all of that is stopping,
and we are returning them to their core function fighting
violent crime. And that's what the great majority of men
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and women in law enforcement DEA A. T. F. US
Marshall's FBI, as well as the incredible legal team at
the Justice Department, that's what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So let's talk about one of the most lawless aspects
of the last four years, which was the open borders
that we saw and the twelve million illegal immigrants that
have come into this country. You've had just two weeks.
But you've hit the ground running, going after the criminals,
going after the murderers, going after the rapists, going after
the child molesters, going after the Venezuelan gang members. Tell
(04:19):
us number one, what you're doing as Attorney General, that
is making a real difference, that is already making America safer.
And number two, I understand you have some breaking news
concerning my home state of Texas, which I'm particularly proud
to hear.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I do, I do, and the press really even out yet.
Joint Task Force Alpha that we elevated once we came
in office. It's with the Department of Justice and the FBI,
and we work hand in hand with Homeland Security. Christinome
is awesome. We all worked so well together. Joint Task
Force Alpha just made a huge arrest in Warres Texas, Warres, Mexico.
(04:56):
They were headed to Texas to El Paso and smuggling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Huge. That's why we do what we do every day.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's why these agents risk their lives every single day.
It's humans smuggling and a lot of children, a lot
of children they're saying are safer because of this.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Let me ask you a question, President Trump, and this
has made headlines on what you're just talking about. We've
designated these cartels as terrorist organizations. What does that allow
you to do in your job? And Cash Fortael now
is the head of the FBI. What is that going
to give you the ability to do and to go
after them?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, Stephen Miller is doing a great job ahead as
we are right leading this effort with all of us.
Mike Waltz at d D. We all work so keet Hagseth.
We all work so well together, and it gives us
the ability.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It gives they are a terrorist group.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And it gives us the ability to go after them
more ability anywhere in the world and treat them as terrorists.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They are terrorists.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
If you're bringing Fittanel into this country and killing our kids,
you're a terrorist and we're coming after you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Three hundred a day is the average that are dying
in this country right now. When you took this job
and you hear that number and you saw the inaction
from the last administration, how angry did that make you
so angry?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know, I was State ag before I became the
United States Attorney General, and Fittanahl was really just coming
on the market and now with this horrible open border
policy just flowing flowing across our borders and killing kids,
killing adults every single day, and it's criminal that no
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one was doing anything to stop it. I can't comprehend
how any administration, progressive nor conservative, how any administration.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Could tolerate that and let that happen.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And it ended day one with Donald Trump when he
shut that board. I was at the border back in September.
I went with Lara Trump and Morgan Ortegas Yep and
we were in Yuma, Arizona, and I saw firsthand there
is nothing humanitarian that was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
At that border, nothing nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
They have a rape tree where they're raping women as
they're coming into this country. I saw firsthand piles and
piles of passports just thrown from every country you can imagine,
because the Biden administration was letting you walk right in
the country if you didn't have a passport. They said
they saw Asian Chinese individuals saying, oh, we're from Cuba,
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so they wrote down there from Cuba and had to
let them legally walk right in under that administration. But
the drugs, the trafficking, I learned a new term disposable child.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The customs, the border.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The border patrol agents told me that they saw a
little boy and they kept recognizing the same little boy
over and over and over coming in. Because if you
came in, our country is a family unit, they just
let you walk right in. What the littlechild was being trafficked, Yes,
now how they were getting him back to Mexico is
beyond me, but they were bringing him time and time again.
(08:11):
He wasn't their family, So who knows what happened to
his parents?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, and I will say a number of people in
the room gasped at a term you use, which unfortunately
is a real term, rape tree. And it's something that
we're seeing. We've been seeing for the last four years
in Texas. We've seen it in Arizona that the cartels
will go and violently rape women. They'll violently rape teenage girls,
(08:37):
young girls, and then they will hang their underwear in
the tree. And you'll find a tree down on the
southern border with ten twenty pairs of underwear as their
mocking law enforcement, saying we can do whatever we want.
And for four years, the Biden Justice Department they just
turned a blind eye and they facilitated it. You know,
(08:58):
you talked about the kids. So they have a policy
if you arrive with a kid, it's essentially a get
out of jail free card. And so you started seeing
a phenomenon that we've never seen an immigration before, which
is single young men showing up with little kids. Now
that's not a normal pattern of migration, but we started
seeing military age men showing up with little boys and
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little girls, many of whom are physically and sexually assaulted
in transit, and the same kid the cartels would recycle
over and over and over again to bring in gang members,
to bring in criminals. Now, let me ask this, what
is most effective stopping the invasion at the southern board the.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Border closing our borders, which is what we've done. Donald
Trump has closed our border. But now, of course we
all know we have so many of these illegal aliens,
fighting age men ages thirteenth, eighteen to thirty five in
our walking around our country.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And President, how concerned are you right now about the
twelve million illegal aliens who came in under Joe Biden?
And about the risk of terrorism of Hamas of hesbela
Palestinian Islamic jihad, the risk of terrorism targeting Americans across
this country.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It's it's it's a huge risk and we all we
all know how bad it is now. And that's what
Donald Trump is committed to do, is to take these
people out of our country, to prosecute them, to deport them,
to get them off our streets. And that's what all
of these law enforcement agencies are doing.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know Lake and.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Riley, of course, that beautiful young woman, University of Georgia.
Lake and Riley is probably the most prominent name. But
look how many Lake and Riley's are out there.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
One victim is too.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Many, Jocelyne, Right, I mean the numbers every day. And
I got to say so already in the first two weeks,
you sued New York, you sued Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You can clap for that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
These sanctuary city that are fighting, and I've got to
say Massachusetts in particular action. Our last podcast we talked
about this. Yeah, how Massachusetts continues to this day to
have violent child rapist illegal immigrants who they release on
the streets and they refuse to notify Ice. They refuse.
(11:36):
These are illegal immigrants who could be deported immediately. And
the Massachusetts officials take criminals who violently rape little kids.
Let me ask you, what is your message to a mayor,
to a local official who wants to defy federal immigration law.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, our message is very clear.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I sued Illinois first Chicago, first day, first day, and
I gave a very strong warning. If you don't comply
with the law, you're next. And guess who didn't listen
New York Kathy Hochel got sued.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They all got sued in New York.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And if you don't follow the law, you're going to
be next, because we are going to get violent criminals
off our strip.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And you know, Senator, it's more than that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
They're endangering the lives of our great men and women
in law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's what people don't understand.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
When you're hiding illegal aliens from law enforcement, you're endangering
their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
So let me ask you. Two weeks into it, you've
been at do OJ. What's your assessment. Is it as
bad as you thought it would be? Is it better?
Is it worse?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's worse, of course, it's now worse.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Here to chaos.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Worse meaning yeah, that that department had completely lost its
mission of fighting violent crime. I look what they did
to President Trump look at the weaponization and weaponization ended,
and the.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Deep state is very real.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I think all of you in this room know that
it's very real, and people trying to undermine everything you're doing.
You know, three weeks into it, I went in one
department and found huge twenty by twenty glosses of Joe Biden,
Merrick Garland, and Kamala Harris still hanging up in my office.
They're gone, they're gone, They're gone. And guess guess what's
(13:34):
replacing it? A very handsome photo of a man, Donald.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Trump, not the one in the hallway, right that that picture,
that one that way.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
One that replacing, But but I make light of that.
But that's what's happening. You know, he had been in
office three weeks and the deep state still had those
pictures hanging. And that's to me, that's defiant. It's in
suborn nation, not going to happen. But you know what
we said, most people, the majority of the people, are
great people who went to law school, became prosecutors, became
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law enforcement agents to fight crime.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You've spent your professional life as a prosecutor career, how
important is it to you to go after bad guys
and to get bad guys off the street and keep
people safe.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It means everything.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And that the drug epidemic, you know, the fentanyl just
flowing into our country now, the terrorists, the gangs, TDA
trans DIEGUIS, MS thirteen, all of the gangs for now,
terrorist organizations. We've got to stop them. And that's that's
why we do what we do, and it's all we
all have to work together. And working with Homeland Security
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has been great.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So one of the most shocking statistics from the prior
administration is the number three hundred thousand, three hundred sap
thousand children that the prior administration had in custody and
that they lost that they do not know where they are.
We know that many of those children are being abused
right now. Tell me about the efforts you and Homeland
Security and the Trump administration, the efforts you are doing
(15:08):
to find those children and to get them out of
harm's way.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
That's top priority, and that's Donald Trump's top priority, to
find these victims and to save them. And that's what
I don't I can't, I truly can't comprehend how any
administration would let that happen and not care and that's
what we're all fighting for. And you know, you say,
when you take a job with this incredible volume, you think.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How do you do it? How do you focus every day?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And you do it by saying, if I can save
one life, yeah it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well it's a lot more than one.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
It is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's how you start one life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And it is thousands and ultimately more. So I want
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media won't cover. I want to ask you two four
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Speaker 1 (17:35):
I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's one that I've been dying to ask you, and
it deals with all of the pardons that were given
out from Joe Biden at the end. There were a
lot that went to his family. It is what it
is there's one person he did not pardon. That would
be himself. There are a lot of people who think
there should be accountability. Should this be something that is
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looked at to see what he did while he was president.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Don't you find it very interesting though, that they attempted
to prosecute the president for having documents in the most
secure place in the world other than the White House,
Mara Laga, and he had the security clearance to take them.
Yet Joe Biden, who had no security clearance to take
them at the time, had them in his garage with
his drug addict son going in and out.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Of his garage. Yet what did they say about him
too old to prosecute? Frail frail old man.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But listen, Donald Trump and I have not talked about
that at all. This is not about targeting. This is
what they do to us. This is not about targeting.
This is not about weaponization. This is about keeping America
safe and going forward and prosecuting violent criminals. If you
committed a crime in this country, no one is above
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the law. I will say that no one is above
the law.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
So Pam, the media are going crazy about New York
Mayor Eric Adams and the charges that were dismissed against him.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Tell us what the story is, what happened there and
why were the charges dismissed?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Sure, and Amol, who has done an incredible job he
worked on this case.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He looked at this case.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It was an incredibly weak case filed to make deportation harder.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's why they did it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They took one of the biggest mayors in the country
off the playing field in order to protect their sanctuary city.
This case, it was so incredibly weak. It was about
increases in airline tickets, upgrades and airline tickets in his
official capacity without getting into all the details of the fact.
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I don't even think it could survive a verdict.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Excuse me. Incredibly weak case. That is the weaponization of government.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's law fair filing, that's law fair when you're filing
cases like that to keep someone who criticized Joe Biden,
who said they took away his security clearance so he
could not get the details, so he could not help
enforce the.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Deportation efforts in New York.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And you know these people are going after him right
a subway in New York.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's not safe.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Violent crime is at an all time high, and that's
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So it's not about weaponization.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's about ending their weaponization of the government and fighting
violent crime and enabling cities like New York and mayors
like Eric Adams to enforce Donald Trump's immigration policies.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I want to ask you and go back saying you
said a moment ago we were talking about cartels, and
they have been able to set up networks, and we
see this coming up now more often. We're the controlling
states and cities and states and the entire flow, and
they've been able to do this and set it up
without having to worry that anyone's going to stop them.
We're seeing this not on border states, but all over
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the country, this network. At what point do we get
to start dismantling that. How long does that take? How
much time is that going to take because they've been
here for quite some time with the last administration.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, there's a lot I can't talk about now, but
very publicly, I think you've seen a lot happen.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
A lot is happening every day.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Our great men and women in law enforcement are out there.
It's a joint effort with our office and with Christy.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Nome and again, we all.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Work so well together, whether it's Mike Waltz.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
No are friends.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think people don't understand this, like this is a
group in this administration. And you and I have talked
about this on the show. You guys are friends, like you'
all know each other before you got here. How important
are those relationships that you say, hey, I trust excuse me,
I trust you, I trust you, I trust you.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I got your back.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Let's go to.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Work vital and crucial and Mike Walt's and Christy we're
on the phone with each other all the time. And
to change the topic just a little bit, just just
to give you an example, Leez Eldon a dear friend
of mine.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
On President's Day.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
EPA, Lee's Eldon, great administrative of EPA. I'm on the
phone hours with Scott Bessen, our Secretary of Treasury and
Leez Elden. And you know we've seen thanks to Elon Musk,
my buddy's great work, and it's been reported.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Look what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And yeah, I'm changing the subject a little bit, but
they're giving out billions of dollars after Joe Biden lost
the election, trying to push this money out the door.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
As surely shoveling cash out the windows.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
As I said, gold bars, Let's throw all the gold
bars off the ship. Ye, And we're stopping them. We're
stopping them in real time. We're going after them. But
it's because we all pick up the phone and we
talked directly to each other, so we're able to work together.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Talk to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
And look at them in like Steve Whitcoff out there,
what they're doing, working with Marco and Mike Watson, all
the great the people that they're saving around the world.
And that's thanks to one man, Donald Trump. He put
all of us in these positions.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, and in the consistent nine spread of the cabinet
nominees is that you're all change agents. You all came
in with the mission and it is Listen, there has
never been a first month of any presidency in the
history of the United States of America like the last
thirty days.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I'll tell you I have had great joy turning
to my Democrat colleagues in the Senate and just dead
patting well three years and eleven months ago, and they
literally start twitching like you get. They have facial tics
that they cannot suppress. Yeah, but all right, Pam. One
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of the things that people like about this podcast that
we try to do is we try to bring people
behind the scenes to actually understand what's going on behind
closed doors. So tell us about your first day as
attorney general. You're confirmed and like day one when you
get sworn in, just just walk everyone through what day
(24:19):
one of being Attorney General in the United States is, like, you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Go NonStop And I jokingly said it felt like fifteen
years because you're working seven days a week NonStop. You're
when we're all working with each other, and everything we
do it overlaps, and especially with Department of Justice, especially too,
with all this money going out in the USA and
all of these agencies and we're going to be helping
all these agencies.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But you just hit the.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Ground running, literally and don't look back.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't look at what time of day it is.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's I don't think I've slept in fifteen days, but
you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And then when you find.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Out about this human trafficking that was just broken up,
it's just that's why we're all doing what we're doing,
and you just keep going forward and our directive, our
directive from our boss is so easy, especially on my end,
make America safe.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And so you just don't, Senator, you.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Don't even big My heart is saying us, I forget
to eat. You forget what time it is, and at
six o'clock at night, And why do I have a
headache because I haven't eaten today? But you're going non
stop and it's not me. It's an entire team. I've
got Chad myself, I've got Animal, I've got Todd Blanche,
thank goodness coming in. And we've got cash for telling now,
so they better look out.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
How nice is it to have a boss by the
guy and guy by the name of Donald J.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Trump who just lets you do your job exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, there's a lot of presents in the past
that have really tried to keep their thumb on people.
It seems like he's saying, go and go, get it done,
and call me when you need me.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
He is trusted all of us and all of our
various capacities and all the different roles we have, whether
it's education or agriculture, you know, all the cabinet labor,
all of the different cabinet secretaries, just to go out
and do the best we can, and you know, we
want to make all of you proud, and we want
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to fulfill his directive to make our country great.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That may ensured it in me that job.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He's a good friend of mine and I love during
my confirmation hearing when they try they get on me
because they say I'm friends with Donald Trump. Yes, no,
I'm not friends with them. I'm good friends with him,
and I'm very proud to work for him.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
You know, when you look at weaponization and politicization, part
of it is using it to attack your political opponents,
and we've seen four years of that under Joe Biden.
Another part of it is turning the other way at
your political allies and refusing to enforce the law against them.
And I think one of the most egregious examples we've
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seen over the last two years is the rising anti
Semitism on college campus. I mean the violent protesters and rioters,
many of whom are not students, are not affiliated with
the universities, and they are threatening students. You look at
Columbia University. The Orthodox rabbi there sent out an email
to the Jewish students on campus and said do not
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come to campus because the university cannot and will not
keep you safe. And the Biden Justice Department did nothing.
They investigated nobody, they didn't follow the money, they didn't
indict anyone, they didn't prosecute anyone, and they did not
enforce Title six of the Civil Rights Laws, which say
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that if you are tolerating harassment on the basis of
ethnicity or religion, that you will have your federal funds
cut off. How is the Department of Justice different today
and and what what will your approach be to anti
Semitism and threats of violence directed against Jewish students on
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campus or any other students on campus.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We have an October seventh task force that we started,
and we will protect you. When I was just a
citizen before I had this job, what you said, I'm
watching these these aren't peaceful protests.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We all believe in peaceful protests. Uh oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Unless you're a liberal and you don't want a parent
to quietly pray outside an abortion clinic, or you're a
Cauntholic or a parent at a school board, they're going
to call you a domestic urist. I'm screaming up my
TV watching these violent protests. You know, the last since
October seventh. You're watching this happen, and all of our
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students deserve.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
To be safe. First of all, these these.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Students from who are here on visas, who are who
are threatening our American students need to be kicked out
of this country.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Amen. It is refreshingly simple to have an attorney general
who has the approach that you're going to follow the
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law and enforce the law, and that sadly has been
missing for the last four years.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's pretty basic, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It should not be complicated. Let me ask you what
keeps you up at night? What scares you in the
first two weeks in this job.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Pretty much everything. I don't sleep at night anymore. Of course,
everything we talked about, the drugs, the cartels, the great
Maybe I'll get a little sleep tonight based on the
arrest that we're just made, the children that are being trafficked,
things that have been so personal to me since I
was a state prospers here and then since I was
state attorney general.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Now you just get to help people on a.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Bigger level, which is pretty pretty cool to get to
do that. But most recently it's really been what Elon
has been uncovering and the USA the waste at EPA,
this money, trillions of dollars they believe just being handed out,
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which is most likely making a round trip.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Going to terrorist organizations.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And you are on the front line of defending the
president and Elon Musk and Doze and all the effort
they're doing. And every day we are seeing Democrat attorneys
general and Democrat interest groups suing the president, suing Elon Musk,
suing the federal government and the Department of Justices on
the front lines, And sadly, we're seeing left wing activist judges,
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individual district court judges issuing nationwide injunctions. Yeah, tell us
about what it's like defending against those lawsuits, and give
us your thoughts on the authority of one radical district
judge to try to run the executive branch and issue
a nationwide in junction.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Two words, we're winning. But yeah, so you've got one.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I like that answer, one unelected district judge trying to
tell President Trump, who was elected overwhelmingly by the American people,
where federal funds can go.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
We're winning even in liberal courts. By the way, I'm senator,
We're winning. And if not We're going to go all
the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And keep winning.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, Pam, let me say you and I have been
friends a long time time. I am thrilled with the
job you're doing. I'm thrilled. I was thrilled when the
President announced your nomination. And let me say, on behalf
of thirty one million Texans and Americans across this country,
thank you. Thank you for stepping forward and answering the call.
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Thank you for pouring your heart into defending this nation,
into keeping my kids safe, keeping Ben's kids safe, keeping
all of our kids safe. And thank you for remaining
faithful to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and
restoring integrity to the Department of Justice. It is desperately
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needed and you're doing a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Thank you, my friend, and thank you for fighting flor Us.
Thank you guys here for being here as well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Don't forget we do this show Monday, Wednesday and Fridays,
so make sure that subscribe writ her down with a button.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
God bless America.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, thank you, my friend. Thank you
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Ted Cruz live from Seapack twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Center. It's uh, I like.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This being our annual time to hang out with fun people.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, it is great to be back with Seapack. And
I gotta say Seapack this year. There is energy, there's excitement.
It turns out winning doesn't suck.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And we have a guest. We have the Attorney General
of the United States, Pam Bondy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
So these guys never invite me to be on their podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
They finally did and I get a jo it in
front of all of you. So this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, Pam, I will tell you that that there is
some good karma to being on this podcast at Seapack
with someone named jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
He's all right for him, sir, he's a great man.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You have been Attorney General fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Day it feels like fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I believe you. And by the way, you just got
some help an hour ago. The Senate just finished confirmation.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I've been on the phone with him NonStop.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I talked to him on the ride over here. He
is going to do fantastic. All right, let's start fifteen days,
You've come into what I think is the single most
important cabinet position in this administration, because we went through
four years of Biden weaponizing the Department of Justice, using
it to attack his enemies and to support his friends.
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So let me ask you, come into DOJ. You've got
a mission. You've got a mission to restore integrity to
the department, to end the weaponization and politicization. How do
you do that? How do you get that done?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know the volume, Senator, what concerned me the most.
It's the volume of how bad it was and it
still is. We're working on it. It's day by day
by day. But we've got a team of great people.
And on day one I issued fourteen executive orders, and
number one is the weaponization ends, and it ends now.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And that's what we did.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Let me ask you something. In the fifteen days you've
been there, how many DOJ employees have said something to
the effect of thank God?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
A lot of them, I believe you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Look. I spent four years hearing from a USA's assistant
US attorneys, hearing from FBI agents, hearing from men and
women who believe in the rule of law and were
horrified at the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ,
and so I know for a lot of good, honorable
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men and women who devoted their careers to defending the Constitution,
there's a lot of gratitude that they can get back
to doing their job.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Their core function. And that's thanks to Donald J.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Trump getting back in office, and he gave us a
clear directive make America safe.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And that's what we're going to do. And you know,
these to start with.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The law enforcement agencies talking about cash. These men and
women didn't go to Quantico. They're not risking their lives
to waste their time on all this politicization and rating
mar A Lago. Really stopping all of that is stopping,
and we are returning them to their core function fighting
violent crime. And that's what the great majority of men
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and women in law enforcement DEA A. T. F. US
Marshall's FBI, as well as the incredible legal team at
the Justice Department, that's what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So let's talk about one of the most lawless aspects
of the last four years, which was the open borders
that we saw and the twelve million illegal immigrants that
have come into this country. You've had just two weeks.
But you've hit the ground running, going after the criminals,
going after the murderers, going after the rapists, going after
the child molesters, going after the Venezuelan gang members. Tell
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us number one, what you're doing as Attorney General, that
is making a real difference, that is already making America safer.
And number two, I understand you have some breaking news
concerning my home state of Texas, which I'm particularly proud
to hear.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I do, I do, and the press really even out yet.
Joint Task Force Alpha that we elevated once we came
in office. It's with the Department of Justice and the FBI,
and we work hand in hand with Homeland Security. Christinome
is awesome. We all worked so well together. Joint Task
Force Alpha just made a huge arrest in Warres Texas, Warres, Mexico.
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They were headed to Texas to El Paso and smuggling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Huge. That's why we do what we do every day.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's why these agents risk their lives every single day.
It's humans smuggling and a lot of children, a lot
of children they're saying are safer because of this.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Let me ask you a question, President Trump, and this
has made headlines on what you're just talking about. We've
designated these cartels as terrorist organizations. What does that allow
you to do in your job? And Cash Fortael now
is the head of the FBI. What is that going
to give you the ability to do and to go
after them?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, Stephen Miller is doing a great job ahead as
we are right leading this effort with all of us.
Mike Waltz at d D. We all work so keet Hagseth.
We all work so well together, and it gives us
the ability.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It gives they are a terrorist group.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And it gives us the ability to go after them
more ability anywhere in the world and treat them as terrorists.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
They are terrorists.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
If you're bringing Fittanel into this country and killing our kids,
you're a terrorist and we're coming after you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Three hundred a day is the average that are dying
in this country right now. When you took this job
and you hear that number and you saw the inaction
from the last administration, how angry did that make you
so angry?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know, I was State ag before I became the
United States Attorney General, and Fittanahl was really just coming
on the market and now with this horrible open border
policy just flowing flowing across our borders and killing kids,
killing adults every single day, and it's criminal that no
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one was doing anything to stop it. I can't comprehend
how any administration, progressive nor conservative, how any administration.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Could tolerate that and let that happen.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And it ended day one with Donald Trump when he
shut that board. I was at the border back in September.
I went with Lara Trump and Morgan Ortegas Yep and
we were in Yuma, Arizona, and I saw firsthand there
is nothing humanitarian that was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
At that border, nothing nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
They have a rape tree where they're raping women as
they're coming into this country. I saw firsthand piles and
piles of passports just thrown from every country you can imagine,
because the Biden administration was letting you walk right in
the country if you didn't have a passport. They said
they saw Asian Chinese individuals saying, oh, we're from Cuba,
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so they wrote down there from Cuba and had to
let them legally walk right in under that administration. But
the drugs, the trafficking, I learned a new term disposable child.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The customs, the border.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The border patrol agents told me that they saw a
little boy and they kept recognizing the same little boy
over and over and over coming in. Because if you
came in, our country is a family unit, they just
let you walk right in. What the littlechild was being trafficked, Yes,
now how they were getting him back to Mexico is
beyond me, but they were bringing him time and time again.
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He wasn't their family, So who knows what happened to
his parents?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, and I will say a number of people in
the room gasped at a term you use, which unfortunately
is a real term, rape tree. And it's something that
we're seeing. We've been seeing for the last four years
in Texas. We've seen it in Arizona that the cartels
will go and violently rape women. They'll violently rape teenage girls,
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young girls, and then they will hang their underwear in
the tree. And you'll find a tree down on the
southern border with ten twenty pairs of underwear as their
mocking law enforcement, saying we can do whatever we want.
And for four years, the Biden Justice Department they just
turned a blind eye and they facilitated it. You know,
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you talked about the kids. So they have a policy
if you arrive with a kid, it's essentially a get
out of jail free card. And so you started seeing
a phenomenon that we've never seen an immigration before, which
is single young men showing up with little kids. Now
that's not a normal pattern of migration, but we started
seeing military age men showing up with little boys and
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little girls, many of whom are physically and sexually assaulted
in transit, and the same kid the cartels would recycle
over and over and over again to bring in gang members,
to bring in criminals. Now, let me ask this, what
is most effective stopping the invasion at the southern board the.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Border closing our borders, which is what we've done. Donald
Trump has closed our border. But now, of course we
all know we have so many of these illegal aliens,
fighting age men ages thirteenth, eighteen to thirty five in
our walking around our country.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And President, how concerned are you right now about the
twelve million illegal aliens who came in under Joe Biden?
And about the risk of terrorism of Hamas of hesbela
Palestinian Islamic jihad, the risk of terrorism targeting Americans across
this country.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It's it's it's a huge risk and we all we
all know how bad it is now. And that's what
Donald Trump is committed to do, is to take these
people out of our country, to prosecute them, to deport them,
to get them off our streets. And that's what all
of these law enforcement agencies are doing.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know Lake and.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Riley, of course, that beautiful young woman, University of Georgia.
Lake and Riley is probably the most prominent name. But
look how many Lake and Riley's are out there.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
One victim is too.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Many, Jocelyne, Right, I mean the numbers every day. And
I got to say so already in the first two weeks,
you sued New York, you sued Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You can clap for that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
These sanctuary city that are fighting, and I've got to
say Massachusetts in particular action. Our last podcast we talked
about this. Yeah, how Massachusetts continues to this day to
have violent child rapist illegal immigrants who they release on
the streets and they refuse to notify Ice. They refuse.
(11:36):
These are illegal immigrants who could be deported immediately. And
the Massachusetts officials take criminals who violently rape little kids.
Let me ask you, what is your message to a mayor,
to a local official who wants to defy federal immigration law.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, our message is very clear.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I sued Illinois first Chicago, first day, first day, and
I gave a very strong warning. If you don't comply
with the law, you're next. And guess who didn't listen
New York Kathy Hochel got sued.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They all got sued in New York.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And if you don't follow the law, you're going to
be next, because we are going to get violent criminals
off our strip.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And you know, Senator, it's more than that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
They're endangering the lives of our great men and women
in law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's what people don't understand.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
When you're hiding illegal aliens from law enforcement, you're endangering
their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
So let me ask you. Two weeks into it, you've
been at do OJ. What's your assessment. Is it as
bad as you thought it would be? Is it better?
Is it worse?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's worse, of course, it's now worse.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Here to chaos.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Worse meaning yeah, that that department had completely lost its
mission of fighting violent crime. I look what they did
to President Trump look at the weaponization and weaponization ended,
and the.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Deep state is very real.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I think all of you in this room know that
it's very real, and people trying to undermine everything you're doing.
You know, three weeks into it, I went in one
department and found huge twenty by twenty glosses of Joe Biden,
Merrick Garland, and Kamala Harris still hanging up in my office.
They're gone, they're gone, They're gone. And guess guess what's
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replacing it? A very handsome photo of a man, Donald.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Trump, not the one in the hallway, right that that picture,
that one that way.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
One that replacing, But but I make light of that.
But that's what's happening. You know, he had been in
office three weeks and the deep state still had those
pictures hanging. And that's to me, that's defiant. It's in
suborn nation, not going to happen. But you know what
we said, most people, the majority of the people, are
great people who went to law school, became prosecutors, became
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law enforcement agents to fight crime.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You've spent your professional life as a prosecutor career, how
important is it to you to go after bad guys
and to get bad guys off the street and keep
people safe.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It means everything.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And that the drug epidemic, you know, the fentanyl just
flowing into our country now, the terrorists, the gangs, TDA
trans DIEGUIS, MS thirteen, all of the gangs for now,
terrorist organizations. We've got to stop them. And that's that's
why we do what we do, and it's all we
all have to work together. And working with Homeland Security
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has been great.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So one of the most shocking statistics from the prior
administration is the number three hundred thousand, three hundred sap
thousand children that the prior administration had in custody and
that they lost that they do not know where they are.
We know that many of those children are being abused
right now. Tell me about the efforts you and Homeland
Security and the Trump administration, the efforts you are doing
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to find those children and to get them out of
harm's way.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
That's top priority, and that's Donald Trump's top priority, to
find these victims and to save them. And that's what
I don't I can't, I truly can't comprehend how any
administration would let that happen and not care and that's
what we're all fighting for. And you know, you say,
when you take a job with this incredible volume, you think.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How do you do it? How do you focus every day?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And you do it by saying, if I can save
one life, yeah it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well it's a lot more than one.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
It is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's how you start one life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And it is thousands and ultimately more. So I want
to say something to the folks here at Seapac, which is,
as many of y'all know, Ben and I do this
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(17:15):
in the morning on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and we
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media won't cover. I want to ask you two four
zero zero five.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's one that I've been dying to ask you, and
it deals with all of the pardons that were given
out from Joe Biden at the end. There were a
lot that went to his family. It is what it
is there's one person he did not pardon. That would
be himself. There are a lot of people who think
there should be accountability. Should this be something that is
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looked at to see what he did while he was president.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Don't you find it very interesting though, that they attempted
to prosecute the president for having documents in the most
secure place in the world other than the White House,
Mara Laga, and he had the security clearance to take them.
Yet Joe Biden, who had no security clearance to take
them at the time, had them in his garage with
his drug addict son going in and out.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Of his garage. Yet what did they say about him
too old to prosecute? Frail frail old man.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But listen, Donald Trump and I have not talked about
that at all. This is not about targeting. This is
what they do to us. This is not about targeting.
This is not about weaponization. This is about keeping America
safe and going forward and prosecuting violent criminals. If you
committed a crime in this country, no one is above
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the law. I will say that no one is above
the law.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
So Pam, the media are going crazy about New York
Mayor Eric Adams and the charges that were dismissed against him.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Tell us what the story is, what happened there and
why were the charges dismissed?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Sure, and Amol, who has done an incredible job he
worked on this case.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He looked at this case.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It was an incredibly weak case filed to make deportation harder.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's why they did it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They took one of the biggest mayors in the country
off the playing field in order to protect their sanctuary city.
This case, it was so incredibly weak. It was about
increases in airline tickets, upgrades and airline tickets in his
official capacity without getting into all the details of the fact.
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I don't even think it could survive a verdict.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Excuse me. Incredibly weak case. That is the weaponization of government.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's law fair filing, that's law fair when you're filing
cases like that to keep someone who criticized Joe Biden,
who said they took away his security clearance so he
could not get the details, so he could not help
enforce the.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Deportation efforts in New York.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And you know these people are going after him right
a subway in New York.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's not safe.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Violent crime is at an all time high, and that's
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So it's not about weaponization.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's about ending their weaponization of the government and fighting
violent crime and enabling cities like New York and mayors
like Eric Adams to enforce Donald Trump's immigration policies.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I want to ask you and go back saying you
said a moment ago we were talking about cartels, and
they have been able to set up networks, and we
see this coming up now more often. We're the controlling
states and cities and states and the entire flow, and
they've been able to do this and set it up
without having to worry that anyone's going to stop them.
We're seeing this not on border states, but all over
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the country, this network. At what point do we get
to start dismantling that. How long does that take? How
much time is that going to take because they've been
here for quite some time with the last administration.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, there's a lot I can't talk about now, but
very publicly, I think you've seen a lot happen.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
A lot is happening every day.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Our great men and women in law enforcement are out there.
It's a joint effort with our office and with Christy.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Nome and again, we all.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Work so well together, whether it's Mike Waltz.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
No are friends.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I think people don't understand this, like this is a
group in this administration. And you and I have talked
about this on the show. You guys are friends, like you'
all know each other before you got here. How important
are those relationships that you say, hey, I trust excuse me,
I trust you, I trust you, I trust you.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I got your back.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Let's go to.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Work vital and crucial and Mike Walt's and Christy we're
on the phone with each other all the time. And
to change the topic just a little bit, just just
to give you an example, Leez Eldon a dear friend
of mine.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
On President's Day.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
EPA, Lee's Eldon, great administrative of EPA. I'm on the
phone hours with Scott Bessen, our Secretary of Treasury and
Leez Elden. And you know we've seen thanks to Elon Musk,
my buddy's great work, and it's been reported.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Look what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And yeah, I'm changing the subject a little bit, but
they're giving out billions of dollars after Joe Biden lost
the election, trying to push this money out the door.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
As surely shoveling cash out the windows.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
As I said, gold bars, Let's throw all the gold
bars off the ship. Ye, And we're stopping them. We're
stopping them in real time. We're going after them. But
it's because we all pick up the phone and we
talked directly to each other, so we're able to work together.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Talk to Marco Rubio.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
And look at them in like Steve Whitcoff out there,
what they're doing, working with Marco and Mike Watson, all
the great the people that they're saving around the world.
And that's thanks to one man, Donald Trump. He put
all of us in these positions.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, and in the consistent nine spread of the cabinet
nominees is that you're all change agents. You all came
in with the mission and it is Listen, there has
never been a first month of any presidency in the
history of the United States of America like the last
thirty days.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I'll tell you I have had great joy turning
to my Democrat colleagues in the Senate and just dead
patting well three years and eleven months ago, and they
literally start twitching like you get. They have facial tics
that they cannot suppress. Yeah, but all right, Pam. One
(23:57):
of the things that people like about this podcast that
we try to do is we try to bring people
behind the scenes to actually understand what's going on behind
closed doors. So tell us about your first day as
attorney general. You're confirmed and like day one when you
get sworn in, just just walk everyone through what day
(24:19):
one of being Attorney General in the United States is, like, you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Go NonStop And I jokingly said it felt like fifteen
years because you're working seven days a week NonStop. You're
when we're all working with each other, and everything we
do it overlaps, and especially with Department of Justice, especially too,
with all this money going out in the USA and
all of these agencies and we're going to be helping
all these agencies.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But you just hit the.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Ground running, literally and don't look back.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't look at what time of day it is.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's I don't think I've slept in fifteen days, but
you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And then when you find.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Out about this human trafficking that was just broken up,
it's just that's why we're all doing what we're doing,
and you just keep going forward and our directive, our
directive from our boss is so easy, especially on my end,
make America safe.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And so you just don't, Senator, you.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Don't even big My heart is saying us, I forget
to eat. You forget what time it is, and at
six o'clock at night, And why do I have a
headache because I haven't eaten today? But you're going non
stop and it's not me. It's an entire team. I've
got Chad myself, I've got Animal, I've got Todd Blanche,
thank goodness coming in. And we've got cash for telling now,
so they better look out.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
How nice is it to have a boss by the
guy and guy by the name of Donald J.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Trump who just lets you do your job exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, there's a lot of presents in the past
that have really tried to keep their thumb on people.
It seems like he's saying, go and go, get it done,
and call me when you need me.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
He is trusted all of us and all of our
various capacities and all the different roles we have, whether
it's education or agriculture, you know, all the cabinet labor,
all of the different cabinet secretaries, just to go out
and do the best we can, and you know, we
want to make all of you proud, and we want
(26:20):
to fulfill his directive to make our country great.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That may ensured it in me that job.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He's a good friend of mine and I love during
my confirmation hearing when they try they get on me
because they say I'm friends with Donald Trump. Yes, no,
I'm not friends with them. I'm good friends with him,
and I'm very proud to work for him.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
You know, when you look at weaponization and politicization, part
of it is using it to attack your political opponents,
and we've seen four years of that under Joe Biden.
Another part of it is turning the other way at
your political allies and refusing to enforce the law against them.
And I think one of the most egregious examples we've
(27:03):
seen over the last two years is the rising anti
Semitism on college campus. I mean the violent protesters and rioters,
many of whom are not students, are not affiliated with
the universities, and they are threatening students. You look at
Columbia University. The Orthodox rabbi there sent out an email
to the Jewish students on campus and said do not
(27:26):
come to campus because the university cannot and will not
keep you safe. And the Biden Justice Department did nothing.
They investigated nobody, they didn't follow the money, they didn't
indict anyone, they didn't prosecute anyone, and they did not
enforce Title six of the Civil Rights Laws, which say
(27:48):
that if you are tolerating harassment on the basis of
ethnicity or religion, that you will have your federal funds
cut off. How is the Department of Justice different today
and and what what will your approach be to anti
Semitism and threats of violence directed against Jewish students on
(28:08):
campus or any other students on campus.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We have an October seventh task force that we started,
and we will protect you. When I was just a
citizen before I had this job, what you said, I'm
watching these these aren't peaceful protests.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We all believe in peaceful protests. Uh oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Unless you're a liberal and you don't want a parent
to quietly pray outside an abortion clinic, or you're a
Cauntholic or a parent at a school board, they're going
to call you a domestic urist. I'm screaming up my
TV watching these violent protests. You know, the last since
October seventh. You're watching this happen, and all of our
(28:48):
students deserve.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
To be safe. First of all, these these.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Students from who are here on visas, who are who
are threatening our American students need to be kicked out
of this country.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Amen. It is refreshingly simple to have an attorney general
who has the approach that you're going to follow the
(29:19):
law and enforce the law, and that sadly has been
missing for the last four years.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's pretty basic, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It should not be complicated. Let me ask you what
keeps you up at night? What scares you in the
first two weeks in this job.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Pretty much everything. I don't sleep at night anymore. Of course,
everything we talked about, the drugs, the cartels, the great
Maybe I'll get a little sleep tonight based on the
arrest that we're just made, the children that are being trafficked,
things that have been so personal to me since I
was a state prospers here and then since I was
state attorney general.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Now you just get to help people on a.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Bigger level, which is pretty pretty cool to get to
do that. But most recently it's really been what Elon
has been uncovering and the USA the waste at EPA,
this money, trillions of dollars they believe just being handed out,
(30:25):
which is most likely making a round trip.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Going to terrorist organizations.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And you are on the front line of defending the
president and Elon Musk and Doze and all the effort
they're doing. And every day we are seeing Democrat attorneys
general and Democrat interest groups suing the president, suing Elon Musk,
suing the federal government and the Department of Justices on
the front lines, And sadly, we're seeing left wing activist judges,
(30:53):
individual district court judges issuing nationwide injunctions. Yeah, tell us
about what it's like defending against those lawsuits, and give
us your thoughts on the authority of one radical district
judge to try to run the executive branch and issue
a nationwide in junction.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Two words, we're winning. But yeah, so you've got one.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I like that answer, one unelected district judge trying to
tell President Trump, who was elected overwhelmingly by the American people,
where federal funds can go.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
We're winning even in liberal courts. By the way, I'm senator,
We're winning. And if not We're going to go all
the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And keep winning.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, Pam, let me say you and I have been
friends a long time time. I am thrilled with the
job you're doing. I'm thrilled. I was thrilled when the
President announced your nomination. And let me say, on behalf
of thirty one million Texans and Americans across this country,
thank you. Thank you for stepping forward and answering the call.
(32:03):
Thank you for pouring your heart into defending this nation,
into keeping my kids safe, keeping Ben's kids safe, keeping
all of our kids safe. And thank you for remaining
faithful to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and
restoring integrity to the Department of Justice. It is desperately
(32:24):
needed and you're doing a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Thank you, my friend, and thank you for fighting flor Us.
Thank you guys here for being here as well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Don't forget we do this show Monday, Wednesday and Fridays,
so make sure that subscribe writ her down with a button.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
God bless America.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, thank you, my friend. Thank you
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