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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, you've seen the frustrations overlaps with the Chronics, Stacey.
He is now into the gangster mode.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You know what I like of literary like like like
literary like.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know what I'm saying here, Yo? You know what
it is, man, It's victory like you know what I mean?
Episode ninety three, very special, momentous occasion, very special indeed,
because you know why, because this shows this.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Listen. I'm from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. You
know what happened in the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We we were talking about this ship in the early
episode about how New York we invented a lot of shit.
So we don't gotta claim everything like the tex Suits.
But one thing we do claim is fucking rap. Okay,
and today you know what I'm saying alongside a rap
legend of our own family. You know what I'm saying,
Radio Voe in the motherfucker House, we got the one,
(01:10):
the only Mike in the motherfucking building boy and a
rappers rapper, all caps, real name, no gimbicks.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Like Ob said, some money in the Yeah, he's our first.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Jones bros.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yo, So thank you Mike for coming on the show.
You know what I'm saying, appreciate you coming through first
and foremost.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I want to give you a shout out on show biz, which,
like I was telling you off camera. I listened to
Front of Back on the drive up and I was like,
god damn.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I was like, yeah, and fame.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I don't want to get too unky, you know what
I'm saying, but I was, and I was just like, yo,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, I was like, yo, you I was talking to myself.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
You know yo merroor yo, you know what.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You know how back in the days, man, you go
to the wiz and you get an album and you
just throw that bitch of your CD player and he
just let it ride, bro, and that ship is hard
front to back.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
They don't even do that no more. They just making
singles and two minute songs and ship is ass.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I threw a show bus and I was like, yes,
we are back, We are fucking back.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Tell him what happened though. While he was bumping show biz,
he got so he got so in his bag. Oh yeah.
They was like yo, yea ya ya yo yo.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
First of all, this is some bullshit because I hit
my blinker and the motherfucker was like, YOA, I pulled
you over because you failed the signal.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
He was just mad because I cut off in front
of him. That's what it was like.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
His order input out of Mama was ready, he got
the alert and she was getting cold.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He got mad, Mike, Mike, don't let him lie to you. Mike.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Don't let him Mike. That's not why he pulled him over.
He said, yeah, he said, what's that you're listening to there?
He was like the show biz Mike, he goes, ship
is hard.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Two points on your license for driving listener to heat
driving under the influence of fire.
Speaker 8 (03:28):
Now you said? I was like, oh yeah, I know
the castle.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Single location.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Slette put out of Mama location because they know somebody's
coming here at three a m. Drunk.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't been in there.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Who's all right, listen, we're gonna get into into into Mike,
but who's the who's the the weirdest connection that you've
made it and put out of Mama on the late
night because I went in there one time and I
seen I think it was it was Trevor Noah. He
was on a date with like three shorties and I
was just like.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
This is crazy.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
So this would happen at pen Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Yeah. I feel like out of Mama is the type
of place. Not really no crazy connection because I feel
like I be there at Like, if I'm that out
of Mama, I probably dope. Like I'm not there on purpose.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
It's like a limital space. It's just somewhere you end up.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, it's like the last, like the last, like the
rest of the world has closed down. But fan out
of Mama's.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Yeah, of Mama's like a water bottle in the desert. Bro,
it's fucking it's four thirty after dweller.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know what I'm saying, Yo.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
But but now hold on, let's get let's let's get
a little deeper into Mic because Bro show biz. Speaking
of show biz, Mic is on his tenth studio album,
Fucking Ships Bro tenth studio album, rapper producer allied to
the City of and.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Why you know what I'm saying. You know, man makes
some noise with Big Mike Mayors a fucking a cop.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
The Mayor's a fucking copy and he's going on a
seventy one show tour that culminates in a hometown show
at Irving Plaza on May thirty. First, you know what
I'm saying, Mike makes music for. This is this is
who Mike makes music for. If your father is black,
a black man. If your father is black, you are
(05:28):
a black man. And if you are shorty and you
five five and thinking it does, Mike's music is for yesterday.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Yeah, But Mike growing up in New York. You know
what I'm saying. You grew up in New York. You
also spent some time in the UK, but you have
so also Jersey right Jersey? Yeah, yeah, so you you've
been everwhere. I thought she was from New York, but
you have a bar saying ain't from New York. But
I'll show you the town. So where is Mike from?
Speaker 8 (06:03):
So whenever I usually low key like I just I
was born in Jersey. I was born in Jersey.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
But then I moved out of Jersey when I was
like five from my mom and we all moved to England,
and I was just yeah, we was out there, very
random like but just out in England, real like culture switch.
But then were moving around like first we lived in
London and then we moved outside of London to.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
This place called Essex, which is like there's you know Jersey.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Sure like out there it's like Geordy Sure, it's like yeah,
it's like the English version of that ship, which is
like waterproof textuits. Yeah, it's scary. I like a lot
like they you know that like back in the day
when the white woman used to have their hair like
standing up the pomp look like Voday for fake because
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with that ship, but I don't think it'd be on purpose,
Like it's crazy out there.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But they got some ship in there, bro, some ship.
I don't got guns out there poking each other. Bro,
the bitch pull a fucking switch out.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
A head utility box. You want some roofing nails at
the top of them.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
No, you're thinking that it's fifty quick right.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Here, Jerseys is I was gonna say strange, but that's
crazy because I live there now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's not strange, but there is a distinction, right Like
it's like North Jersey is like more New York.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
South Jersey is more like Yo, I'm from Pennsylvania. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
So after I left from London or left from England.
I moved to Philadelphia, so the like whenever I come
I had cousins who've been living in New York, like
living in the Bronx, who I would go and visit,
like every summer. I spend the summer with them, but
I take the train from so it would be like
I see like that whole kind of journey of Jersey
from like the super like suburbia.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Type shit, and then you get to like Newark and
that shit.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't even know. I feel like I compare that
shit maybe to New York that I was not here
for it, because that should be.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Like, this is a scary shit to be talking about.
It said in the building. I didn't tell you right
now Newark? Yeah it is nineteen eighty seven in New York. Yeah, yeah,
it is nineteen eighty nine Newark.
Speaker 10 (08:30):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Oh, listen, this artisanal. I went to a bar recently
with a shorty uh in New York, and I look
like this. So I pull up into that bar with
a with a petite Puerto Rican shorty curls and all that.
It was like a fucking movie, bro. The whole bar
looked like you know what I'm saying. It looked like
Vic or Hassan or Mike.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I walk in with this like you know what
I'm saying, looking like me little curly recon shorty bro. No,
it's like a vilcan.
Speaker 11 (09:00):
Literally the whole bar.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
I swear I got the music stopped. I walked through
the door. The whole bart goes.
Speaker 11 (09:08):
Just like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The record.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
So I'm like, sound like, how funk that you can't
can't let him shake you.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
You gotta walk in head so we chill, so we
macked or whatever or wings.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know what I mean, big shout to do it.
But yeah, So, like like Ready was saying, I'm not
wasn't born in New York, but I'll show you the town.
What is your face?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What is like a New York kids story that you
got because we New York City kids. Liz Bell uh
Esteve co host is out of the country right now.
She's not in the fact handling business and d you
know what I'm saying, shout.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Out to you, queen. We'll see when you get back.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
Love you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Uh So we often talk about like growing up in
the city and shit that's very specific to us, like
seeing ship on the.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Train, taking the commute to school, that type of stuff.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, I used to take the train like a lot
because I used to live I used to live in
the Bronx off the two train burkeout.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, the whole ass. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I used to live there. Everything. I was going to school,
and I was going to butcher At campus like so
all the way like Brooklyn, Like that's a journey always
shit our thirty almost two hours every day. So I
would just go early on some like let me just
like be able to Like so I'm just not coming
to school late every day type shit, I'm like, let
me go super early. So I go early. But then
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like on the train, it would be like me and
like two three other people and mind you, I see
these niggas every day. Also on some weird ship when
I was coming back home, we just happened to because
like I got a two hour ride back home. How
do you catch me and this ship? It's literally one
of the craziest I have too crazy. I was just
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talking about this.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
The other day.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
One time I'm waiting for the train, I'm look key
like I'm aggy ship because I'm like sixteen seventeen at
the train station at like six am, Like yeah, like, well,
like niggas who like about to go to start their
construction job.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah you want that?
Speaker 7 (11:27):
You want that union ship?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, back to the books, Like yeah, it's Mike and
Ernest only Mike er next and Trevor.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
The way I'm going.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Y'all working today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, work, you'll go to
the site.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Yeah, and nets like my miss, I'm.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
Just going to work.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's like and then and then poor sixteen year old
sitting he's just sitting there. I'm on the trade with
a mixigan. They going to the work saying.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, I'm sorry, go on, so yeah you want to train,
say so so way away from our train to head
to school.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
It's another young young nigga hop on the platform with me.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
But this nigga is like ten years old. This nigga's
like yo, like you smoke weed da da da da.
I'm like yo, if you like I'm old, but I'm
not old enough necessarily I'm about to be a nigga
role model, Like I definitely like especially you call you
off guard, like I'm like bro, and this before like
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niggas is doing like the you know the reaction, like
the social experiments.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
If it was now then I definitely be like, bro,
what do you mean you're about to smoke weed? Brother
Like yeah, like.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Music artists might, literal you shouldn't do drugs. Little kid
took the camera.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Ship, he like you got me. He's like you spoke.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I'm like yeah, He's like, oh, you're trying to match
da da da. I'm like, bro, not like I want
the way to high school, don't got Its supposed to
be a kind of carter literally, like I remember that
ship being on the way back home, I mean back
to like on the way to school.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Like, bro, like went with this ship like ever stopped.
It was fully stressed out.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
And there's one nigga that used to be on that
train with me morning and even the time that like
his whole ship would just be like pull up in
the train in pajamas and just hot box session.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I'll catch in the boarding and literally catching on the
way back and we're always.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
In the same car and like it would be the
same ship. He stumble onto the ships like go sit
down in the corner and start lighting his ship and
then me again just aw some Like I was like
I'm not even trying to cause the scene.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
And so I'm just looking for this.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Sit here.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Holding your breath the whole.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Hour thirty definitely secondhand.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Just.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Bro and yo.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
And what's crazy is that maybe that experience made you
a better performer because of breath control. That's the reason
you're told.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, it's like, Yo, you don't even gott to punch
you once.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Yeah, this snick is nice, yo, shout out to so
shout out to twelve year old bubbles from the wire
on this train make a twelve year old.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, but it's like what that was, Like your pot
saved my life, ye.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yo, holding my pref for that train and not getting
that second head crack smoke, Yeah, made him the wrapping
that is today.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I crack yo, and.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Another Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
But like so you so, you know, growing up in
New York, that ship like it's funny now, but it's
like low key, like normalized, you know what I mean.
It's like because for us it's like, well that's Tuesday.
But so like, uh, you know, so you grew up
in New York, but you also spend time in the UK,
and I noticed that like not just in your music,
but like even real life parallels kind of like that
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you have a lot of similarities to Doom in that
way where like you know what I mean, Like Doom
was born in the UK, but that's a New York rapper, bro.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I do not think.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
I don't hear MF. Doom and think British. Yeah, yeah,
they're playing in the background exactly. So so uh uh
you know, I feel like you're you're like in that
camp of like sort of Dooms, like unofficial like disciples,
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you know what I'm saying, where like he had this
neck for telling entire stories in a single bar, you
know what I mean, Like like one of my favorites
is like slap a fan hand down, tell him no
yelling like ship like that, like whatever, ship like that,
and like on uh and on show biz, Uh you
do this, you do this a couple of times to
one of my favorites was uh, she was fun. Now
(16:13):
I'm hitting her hardly Like that's a whole that's a
whole story. I mean, Like so it's like, you know,
how do you manage to say so much with so little?
And like is that just something you've developed intentionally or
does that just come like naturally.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Because I've always wanted to be like a rapper that
was on some like super bar out hella like punch lines, yeah,
to start going crazy, but the yo, like I'm fried,
Like my brain is like literally like mygg like like
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literally sometimes it beat the ship where like I make
some ship and like won't necessarily even funck with it
until like a long time after and when like another
person is like yo, I don't think you realize, but
like you D, I'm like, oh shit, you do got
a point.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Maybe it's my favorite and then it like usually happened
like that SID.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But I do think that when I did realize that
I maybe wasn't the most like loose like lucid when
it came to uh or like fluid when it came
to just right, and like D, I definitely started to
like try and study from other musicians who came at
the like music in a more simple way, but also
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it's just able to like convey heavy like message or
just something that like feels important but not important in
a head ass kind of way.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
And this is what I've been trying to tell the
great Hair.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Like you exist.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
You exist in this space where it's like like the
message is there, but it's not fucking corny, bro.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
It's it's like you gotta swag to it, like you
can still say what you're gonna say. But it's like
it's it doesn't feel preachy, you know what I'm saying.
So it's really cool that, you know what I'm saying,
that that's how you move on a record.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's funny because that was like like we were having
that conversation for you got where it's just like, yo,
like Mike's doing this ship, but it's not like corny,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
It was just like like who, like who would you compare?
What would you say? You know what I'm saying, spend
that names like comn try this that. So then I
got active.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
I was like, no, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
The horns on the war too were crazy. I ain't
about to set up here and say that ship was boring.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But it's similar. It's not congruits, you know what I'm saying.
It's it's the same shape, but it's not the same size.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's not the same you know what I'm saying. Rotation.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But now when I listen to show is on the
way up that's what I'm trying to say, Like that
that feeling of those of that era of rap where
it was just like yo, bro, Like re listening to
it might sound a little preachy, but like back then,
it was like, Yo, this is what we was, this
is what we was talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You're doing the same thing. Like, Yo, you're just Mike Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's what I think
is the real like focus right, It's like, Yo, I'm
just me and I'm just doing me, like I'm just
living my life in like I'm saying, I think these
this is the way I think, and I'm gonna put
it on the record, you know what I'm saying, because
a lot of times I feel like.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Rap is like wrestling where it's it's like Yo, Bro,
I'm Hogan brother. I don't give a brother.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yo, I'm meant the fucking I'm at the lawndreym Man brother,
I'm doing with my wife's brother.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But like rap b like that, Like you know what
I mean, And it's just like, Bro, you can't drop
your act or your character at all. And I'm just like, Bro,
that shit has gotta be exhausting, so to that point,
like not to put myself in it main character. But
like when I started doing comedy, I was like, Bro,
you cannot be a per soda. You gotta just be
Merrow Bro. Like even that Merlow's at a stage name
Bro Meryl. I've been ready merriw on Wall since like
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ninety six.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
There's a guy out there that does a great copycat.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know what I'm saying, He's still active. It's crazy
was Wold. But like it's just like do you feel
that way as a as a fellow fried Man? You
know what I'm saying, Like is it too much?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Like, Yo, I don't do this because it's too much?
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
You know what I'm saying, Because you.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Do have a little bit of it where you have
like you know what I'm saying, like kind of like
alter egos. But it's clear that it's not like yo,
like this is I'm doing this Yo, listen, I'm really
this guy need.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
To stop.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
Exactly of literity, like like.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Ligity, Like when I first started rapping, I thought it
the most like a billion different names I could have
went by and ship. Like at one point I was
like Mike the Kids or like Mike the Terrible or
some shit just to spice up the mic shit or whatever.
But then eventually I'm just like all these shits sound
kind of stupid. And then I was just like, all right,
I'll just go as Mic at least until like I
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can figure out something that's like fire or whatever, because
at the end of the day, the most important thing
is that like I could rap or like do whatever.
And then I think as I got felt more into that,
it does help when you don't try and like be
a thing that's like not with you all the time
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because like you can't morph into that thing. But like,
also the thing about life is tuto that I think
whether you do entertainment or like you're doing comedy or
music art or like you might just even be like
a bartender who you might be having a good ass
night and now you're just in there acting like like
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the nigga, like the black like the black Venom spider man,
like like a many times like make another more.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
Going to.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Like you just hear you just hear a sound in
your head like drop the drums where the drums?
Speaker 6 (22:17):
But I feel like you need those moments in life
every now and then to be able to romanticize like yeah,
because and I think that'd be the thing that like,
like I feel like the idea of me even being
able to be Mike and go anywhere with it was
at first just a romantic idea that like eventually, like
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like a couple of times I got kicked out of
or the fantasy or whatever niggas like I searched your name, nigga,
you can't find you, like I'm like last week, and
nigga told me, like, yo, you should change, you.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
But it's I think it's good though, like when you
could like fantasies are meant for that for you to
like see something that nobody else could see. Five, So
I think that shit just helps you, like, especially when
you're building your own fantasy. You're not building the fantasy
that's based off of like a reaction like I gotta
beat the toughest rapper because I gotta, like I'm.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Lucky insecure that I'm not the toughest nigga in the world,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
So that like it's nice when you're like nah, like
whenever I've turned, I'm just a more current version of myself.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And I've noticed how your energy
shifts based on who you're collaborating with, because Mike, Mike
by himself sounds very different from Mike next to Earl,
or Mike next to Neante, or Mike next to Cousteau,
like you know what I mean, like to next to
those guys. And Showbiz is twenty four songs, forty seven minutes,
(23:47):
and you made an interesting choice that I don't think
anybody else has asked you about yet, but you made
an interesting choice in the track list to put the
intro nineteenth and I've never seen that done before, And like,
as a listener, there does seem to be a you know,
speaking of shifts in tone, there does seem to be
a considerable shift in tone from Burning House to the
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intro and it's almost low key, like a post credits
like little ep like at the end of that, was
that intentional?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
And if so, like what inspired that choice?
Speaker 10 (24:18):
To me?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Before you answer that question, I'm waiting for you to
just be like, yo, bro, I was just fried nigga,
I forgot to put the intro in. Then I was
just like yo, we gotta press this bitch, nigga, and
then I put that through the intro in end, Yo,
it wasn't that deep, like seventy five.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Percent halfway fried halfway.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Fried, because.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, I hope me now I'm here too.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
He actually knows good because we literally like I remember,
like the track list had dropped, but like on someome
Fries shit, the track list like right before. I like,
I'm very like working on the project all the time
type shit, like changing shit every day. So even the
order of the project is, there's so many parts of
the project. I was like, these three songs sound good together,
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but I don't know if they should be at the
beginning or be at the end, and it be in
the middle. So at this point I'm just playing random
shit in the track that was trying to like make
sense of all of it. Like I remember we dropped
one single that was called You're the only One Watching,
and then I was like in my head like it
notes I'm like, you're the only one watching show biz
kind of has a connection.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
So I just put it together in the track list
and then I said it to the Hobie, so like
when it dropped.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
When it dropped is like you're the only one watching
released album name like by accident, but it was like, yeah,
we like fuck it literally that I remember when this
ship had dropped, When it shit had dropped, I realized,
I'm like, fuck, I never took the intro shit out
of the where a show that song showed it used
to be because that was lucky, the original intro type.
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So like even with Burning House, Burning House was the
last song. And then that's why I feel like it
kind of goes so kind of feels like a loop
in the middle of like it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Has last song energy. Burning House has last song energy.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
So that's what made me feel like the choice to
put intro after and then that and then those couple
of songs after that, that's what made me feel like
like it was intentional.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Yeah, but then I feel like not the like like
Charlie like, yeah, it was kind of touch on.
Speaker 10 (26:26):
You doing that.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Yo.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Rappers love doing that because I as a fan, I'm
attributing all this ship to it. It's like Marl said, like, yo, man,
that should just happened. But now it's like, damn if
I say it was intentional.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
I remember when I was just listening to that, Yeah,
I was on.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
And I can hear his wiggling, and he was just like, yo,
you know what you should do? Drumless? Yeah, I don't
want to sleep. And Prince came to me in the dream.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
He said, put the intro at the end.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
The dream where like like the seas artist comes to
you is so scary.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I'm not ready for that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Would you up?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Because like as a comedy guy, like I think, like
my person that will funk me up will be Eddie
Murphy because he's still alive.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
So I'm just like, yo, know what are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Like he was dead?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Like bro, I'm doing yeah, yeah, I think for me.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
For me, the person that will suck me up, who
is also still alive is Rock Marcy. He's just he's
my sleep paralysis demon up and he's just in the
corner like my sneak is just literal relief from.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
What do you want for me?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Who's who's your rap sleep paralysis?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Great question, rap sleep paralysis even it's definitely different from
like my prophetic like dream dream rapper.
Speaker 10 (28:19):
Uh yo.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Yo yo on the.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Mike, you gotta die your locks, you gotta put the locks.
Put my look like a mike.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I'm not gonna lie you know who music I really about.
I feel like it would be the scariest slee Paralysis
even play work Card.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I feel like that ship would just go from turning
out to like I need, I need to get Maybe
I'm scared, like to say that pronounced the whole I'm scared.
Can you let me ask him?
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Going you hear nothing and it's just him going.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Just white face.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Sleep raps, Sleep Proalysis, demon is
gay Cocaine Vampire Cardi, and then and then who is
and then who is uh the prophetic like like the
Morgan Freeman, you know what I'm saying, god level, and
that would.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Show up, Mike, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I need.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
I feel like you got to be between like definitely,
like the obvious one is like doom probably and then
like Slipper hasn't passed, but like Yo or Biggie, Oh yeah,
and I'd be thinking that if I did meet Biggie
in my dream, I'm like, that's about to be the
craziest ship right now, yo, you know the yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Yeah, Yo know, whatever whatever album come after that, it's
gonna be your fucking magnum opus.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, It's just a bitture of Mic in the booth
of what I looking this way.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Like, bro Yo, But speaking of speaking of working or
your magnum opus, your legacy, your dreams, right like you
are gearing up for this world tour with a whopping
fucking twenty four supporting acts any one seventy one cities, right,
bro Yo, And you're and and that's that's not a tour, Yeah,
(30:52):
that's whole worship. And your supporting acts range you know,
from frequent collaborators like you know, Gusto, but also like
unexpected folks that I don't to my knowledge, I don't
I've never I don't know that you've worked with like explicitly,
but like like like Selamie Rose, Joe Lewis and uh
and fine, like those are people that I don't expect
(31:15):
on a Mike lineup. So like, how does this, how
does this you know, how does this even come together?
And like is there a sort of round table situation
that decides this or is this all like the brainchild
of Mike himself.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I love touring so much that I'm always super particular
about who comes on tour this just because I'm like,
I can't spend that much time with somebody who's like
about to be annoyed.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Right right, right right, I'm about to say because touring.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
By myself, touring is different because it's like, Yo, I'm
just going over here, I'm doing jokes, you know what
I'm saying. Touring with like opening acts, are y'all really
like our waffle house together? Every stop is yo, we
all mob be together.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Like's like that's your family, like for whatever amount of
time they're like, it's like low key. Sometimes when I peep,
now I got there. Sometimes you'll be on tour with
the nigga that like you wouldn't like real like on
tour like Yo, by the end of this, she be like, bro,
like I love.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
You like for real period. What I'm saying, yeah, I
can handle you in tour bursts. Otherwise, Bro, do not
hit my line. Yo, Bro, do not let the room
in my fucking the bartment. I cannot handle that, can
not share no common spaces. But we're going tour together.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing. And yeah, I'm
just super like Salami girl Joe lewis like super big
fan of found out about her music and I've just
been obsessed like every now and then I get into
like my little like in the in the music background,
I'm like, Nigga, look out the window. You had to
(33:02):
hear some deep ship right now, like say ship with
fine like that ship I heard about that ship and
just blew my mind. I'm like, Yeah, I have this
idea that like in the future, there will be a
day where like we kind of like talked to or
like worked with everybody that we're like, Yo, this is
like and it would be like, Yo, these is like
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all the real niggas in the world for sure, and
it's like we've made the connection.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
We've all connected. The real Nigga collective has been established.
Not that the r n C, but not that already,
but the good one.
Speaker 11 (33:40):
YO.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I haven't said that, Bro.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
I need.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I need the mic men I trust feature, Bro, I
need that ship. I don't know if you don't know if.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
You're with men I trust. But then this little, this
little there's this indie band out of Canada. I think
I think you would.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Definitely they're pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
They're pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I had a very specific what, bro, because you've done
the US, You've done like the you know, the Continental
America whatever, and then also Europe.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
What the fuck is it about like the Slavic countries? Bro?
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Are these Slavic? Or like Norwegian?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Finland? Norway?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Bro layd Finess could walk down the street ten blocks here,
nobody would say yo except me, Yo, man, that motherfucker
will sell out a soccer stadium in Finland? Yo, no cas,
Why what is it about Europe?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Are they so like what the fuck is going on
over there?
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (34:32):
I'm not sure?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Is it like Newark still?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Is it like.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
It's like you know what I think it is. It
might be, but like how it was out there because
I feel like that ship comes from like their parents,
who is like, bro, wu Tang is the best thing
to ever yeah, come to life and then like their
kids is like all right, maybe not Bhutang, but like
Blady or like you know, something like random new ship today.
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So like even when we be out there, like like
the ship would bust my head when I go on
towards when the nigga wuld be like, Yo, I've been listening.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
To you for like ten years, Da da da da.
I'm like I was still in high school.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
But they're like after the hell of that ship, I
was thinking I was telling it homie, like it's crazy
that like the only thing that probably stopped us from
coming out here earlier is like not having the money
to like do it, you know what I mean. Like
these world's kind of already been existing like like which
is like it's crazy. I think also too, there's stuff
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going on out there, like the governments, like a lot
of the country, like the countries like governments and should
still be pretty shitty, but I think they do care
about leisure and like created like crazy shit.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Yeah, Like out here, I feel like it's really always
been enough to do.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Like I was having this conversation the other day about
New York is that like New York jack's like hip hop,
but then they also like they don't just jack hip hop,
like they also jack like the whole Like it's like
we were looking at it like World War two and
niggas is like I funck.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
With army like World War two, like fuck with both
sides of like the fact that these niggas wasn't.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Like I feel like war.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Like that with the hip hop ships like yeah, like
like we've been cracking down this ship, you know what
I mean, we also equally as proud of the say
it's like Batman and jokers ship, like it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
So, you know, speaking to your international experiences, how was Japan?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Japan? I'm not gonna lie, crazy as fu Yeah, ridiculous,
I like had I always told homies like I have
like lucky the best time of my life and also
the worst time. Oh really yeah damn, because I don't know, well, basically,
I like got locked up out there on some crazy
ship a bullshit like I'm not gonna well, I'm not
(36:56):
gonna say no care but I purposely didn't bring weed
to Japan of course, yeah, personally didn't bring no I'm
like I funk around, tried some other like.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
You know, other places like y'all niggas bull.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Show up in Romania and past.
Speaker 11 (37:20):
Bro. Yeah, it's grapp It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Literally earlier last year, me and a homie coming into anyone,
we and this is like personally you ship, were just
like we're about to be out here for a second,
so that I bring whatever. I basically walked through the ship.
You know when you walk through the ship where it's
niggas standing outside with the signs and ship. I get
into the doorway of that ship and you look, you're
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not supposed to walk back through that ship. But then
as we get through, basically the mission was over. The
Hopie just get caught, like yeah, my bad, y'all can
come to the hour quick. We can check our ship. Bro,
my other homie talker like yoke put back. They just
stopped to Helpie and they found like h like at
(38:04):
least an hp on just stop.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
We found Yeah, yeah, we found.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
They low key because we was playing at ballroom the
next day. I guess the lady had thought that like
it was just me, headline and bailroom, but it's like
a festival, like seventeen thousand people. They're like, bro, we
can't just like we can't disappoint seventeen thousand people. They're
like like you're lucky your fans support you this way,
(38:33):
Like y'all good, like let us rock. So from there,
I'm thinking, like we're on top of the world, like
we could get through that ship like basically like like
a half pound pack, like we chilling, but we're not
gonna do no crazy like that again. So we go
to Japan. I'm like, no pack mind you. Like the
first four days, I'm going through real withdrawals, like like
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I can't, like I literally I remember the first night
we got there, we all drinking, like niggas is celebrating
because like it's our first time in Japan. Some niggas
getting drunk. I'm drinking at the same amount as everybody.
It's like four am, and I'm just.
Speaker 11 (39:07):
Like yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
That morning cap, I don't feel ship at all. And
then like I try and go to sleep. It's one
of the ones where I just close my eyes, but
I'm just awake waiting for the like everybody else to wait.
Just like, bro, this is insane. Keep going on like
I'm going through with draws. But I'm also like lucky,
it's about time that I like take like take a
break with us. It sounds like it's cool, bro, it's whatever.
(39:36):
Like fourth day, mind you. In these four days, I
probably had like six hours of sleep. Fourth day, we
play the show, one of the best shows I've ever
played in my life, Like amazing show. We go about
to go to the after party. We lead a show
the homiees just like yo, everybody's so turned it like
I'm like I'm about to call it uber to the
(39:57):
after party. The one Japanese hold me like nah, home
you got the g wagon, go hop in the g Like, fuck,
y'all go hopping the G wagon. I'm like, yeah, we
turned d D Like, I'm like, fucking we get the
G wagon. We bumping fifty cent literally, I'm like, yo,
like this is like the pay that like part and
paid them full right before and like a nigga lose
everything like I feel that good. Like I'm like, nah,
(40:21):
this is crazy. We get to the get to the
ATA party, niggas come out the car.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
I turn around and it's just hell a Japanese cops
like they're like they're like basically just pressing everybody out.
I don't really know what they're saying because I don't
speak Japanese, but they I can tell they're trying to
search niggas or whatever, so they start searching everybody. I'm lucky,
hype as fuck for the first time in this type
of situation because I'm.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Like shit, I'm like, yo, what y'all need to check?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
I'm handing them ship like yo, y'all want to check
this too, Like I'm like, bro, we're good for the
first time. Bro. They opened my bag like it's like
a bag that I'll be wearing out here. Open my bag,
take everything out flip my ship like this, he said
some shing in Japanese to the homie. The homie is like, yo,
like like there's not a word, like an English word
(41:12):
for his word, but basically.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Like like he found some up ships trying to say,
like you found something that, Like he opened my.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Bag like this and it's just crumbs, like literally crumbs
of weed in my bag.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
Like oh, but it's like in the in line, in
the in the lining of your bag. Yeah, So when
he flipped it inside out, it's like yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Literally like he did that ship. I look at the homie,
I'm like, a right, I'm finna just go.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Fight this ship. I'm just about to go with these niggas.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
As a smoker. Did you look at it and say
to yourself like, damn ship, this was enough to smoke?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Yo, Yo, you don't understand, like wow, Like that's part
of the reason why, like it was driving me so
crazy because I'm like, nigga, I've.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
Been going through intense I I've never gone through Withdraws.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
It's my first time going through with draw and this
ship his whole fucking time. I look at this ship
like damn near, I'm like, yo, I'm to smoke this
right now. I think, like the whole time I've been.
Speaker 8 (42:16):
Doctor having smoking hell of cigarettes and.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
Ship because I'm just like, yo, it's not we but
at least, like you know what I'm saying, Yo, Even
when I'm locked up, I'm thinking of my head. I'm like, yo,
I could have just like I had a cigarette, put
a little bit of the weed on side, Like Yo,
I'm thinking of bad ship And they're like, fuck, bro,
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it's crazy. So that they see that ship, they like, yeah,
you're gonna have to come to the office with us.
I get there, mind you. I'm the type of person
like I'll be talking to my with like self out
of hell is ship, like just like the English that
I was just talking about, like somehow like just able
to talk my way out of that ship this time around.
(43:01):
Like I'm trying that ship. Oh d I'm trying to
Like I think it's like my nervous like you know,
like whenever it's like fight or flight, you have that
kind of yah. Yeah, yeah, my ship is Like Bro,
I fel like I just gave all of a sudden
start cracking jokes that I've never cracked before, Like you
have niggas dying I'm like, I don't even know where
the charisma coming from right now, but it really.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I'm scaredful.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Mike was in holdings with an older man with a
missing pinky.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah, I got stories.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
There.
Speaker 10 (43:39):
It's crazy like literity, like like literity like that ship.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
So basically I'm trying to do that whatever. I'm like, oh,
I'm gonna be able to I'm gonna be able to
go DJ right at the after, like you to know
this because I'm like, yeah, y'all know, y'all just found
some bullshit in my bag. Like they waited up and
it's like zero.
Speaker 8 (43:59):
Point three point three, like not a grand point three.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Basically be in there, my homie now and the homo
she uh came and like they came and gave me,
got me like a sweater, and uh brought me my phone.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
But I can't use my phone or the interrogation room.
I can only use it in like.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
This outside hallway, but the cops would have to come
with me and like watch me while I'm using my ship.
So at one point where I'm like all right, just
just starting to look a little bit crazy, I started
texting it. I started texting I always like yo, like
I'm about to see what's good with this, but it
seemed like, like you be crazy. I go back to
the interrogation room and I'm like, I might have like
just fall a seat, take a nap, so hopefully by
(44:37):
time wake us should have done. I wake up, They're like, Yo,
you're under emergency arrest from that night emergency rest.
Speaker 8 (44:45):
I'm just like, what make it?
Speaker 6 (44:46):
I literally actually because there's a translator, I'm like, what
makes it an emergency?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Like?
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Why is it? Why do these niggas have to like
all of a sudden, I'm like, yo, she just went
from like kind of a little bit casual to like,
all right, now it's serious. It's like then basically they
just do the whole ship. I end up being in
that ship for like eleven days like something.
Speaker 8 (45:07):
Yeah, some weird like solitary Japanese solitary.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Show what it looks like. Because I'm like, I've seen
like America jail, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (45:17):
Like the thing is that I wish like I'm like
an American jail, especially if it's like New York.
Speaker 8 (45:23):
You at least are gonna know one person you get there, you.
Speaker 7 (45:26):
Know, even if it's you kind of exactly. It's kind
of comforting, like yo, like we here with it, like
I'm gonna, hey, just remember we're here, but you from
over there.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
But I ain't trying to get no time at it
to my ship, so.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
Hold it down right, And they're like you basically like
the cells are all like self, self, self, but.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
You can't see who's next to yourself, and then you
can only see the front where like the guards come
to like handle your food or like whatever, but you
can hear niggas in the next ship next to you
doing whatever the fun they're doing, Like Nigga needs to
be in there snoring hard as hell. And the thing
about it too is that like off, yo, I'm I'm sure.
Look look yo, it was a couple of nights in there,
(46:21):
like we're like, why'd you like? The time difference is
just crazy. So it's nighttime, like all you're supposed to
do is just lay in, yo, Matt like this, and
you literally got like you got a bedtime or you're
about to get in trouble. Literally, I'm trying to force
myself to go to sleep so I don't hear no,
I'm up at weird times at the night, like I'm
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not trying to like I'm not trying to be up
with nobody. It's like niggas in there, like I'm like, yo,
this nigga coughing every night. This nigga might die in
here before before you know. I'm like, bro, like, so
it's just like kind of crazy. I remember one of this,
(47:03):
so we wasn't sure like usually the MBSC had came.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
This is the scariest ship too. NBC came as these
two white ladies.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
She's like, Yo, I'm like, bro, like I'm dead ass,
like I'm not supposed to be here, like none of
these niggas speak English, like like this ship is crazy.
I'm literally like, bro, like, nig can you hit up?
Biding her, i didn't get the funk out of here.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
I'm like, what do y'all be doing? Like when this
type of ship happened?
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Wake it up?
Speaker 7 (47:27):
They help, they help down literally, I'm telling her like
what about Rocky like something like.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
Kind She she like she's like, yo, before biding here
about this ship, he about to be out of office
like basically like and then then she said some ship
to me that low key like I swear I had
like not not a get out moment but like the
same ship where Brodie fall to the ship and he
like doing like the the sunken place. Bro She's like, yo,
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you know, being a man of color, And I was like,
man of color. I'm like, we in fucking Japan right now.
You gotta be kidd and me like, nigga, please, Like
you said a man of color, You're like, yo, you
know people are going to treat you differently no matter.
I'm like, like you said that ship and all just
started like boom boom boom boom boom, like I already
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knew that. But then I'm like, you're in the embassy
for Japan. I'm a black man in a Japanese jil
right now.
Speaker 8 (48:27):
You're telling me about like I'm a man of color.
It's like.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
Like literally it would be like because the embass would
do that ship. And my lawyer also like because the
thing is to it in Japan. That I'll say, which
is also why I feel like I had such a
good time, is because it's so perfect out there that
like a nigga like me lucky can't like be existing
(48:57):
out there like that. Like I had the conversation with
the homie, like bro if it wasn't me, it was
going to be somebody else. There's too many of us
out here having way too much fun. We got to
ship looking like it's.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Back home, brod to get there's no other way about
that ship.
Speaker 6 (49:16):
And now I'm starting to realize, like that's why it's
so fire out here, because like if you want it
to be like this, then like anything that kind of
remotely looks unfamiliar has to be. Yeah, they're hidden, you
know what i mean, Like even when I'm in there, Yo,
if you're not in the yacht like y like you're
not in jail.
Speaker 8 (49:35):
I remember the Nigga and.
Speaker 6 (49:36):
Then the ship I also found out about is the
Nigerian Mob. I'm like, yo, I was at first, I'm
like trying to connect with these like yeah, I'm not Jerior,
Like he's like, oh, do you know about the Nigerian Mob.
Speaker 7 (49:46):
I'm like.
Speaker 8 (49:52):
Like, bro, it's my first time.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Like I don't know none of I'm not connected to
none of them.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
Man, that ship was crazy as hell, Like I'm at
one point I'm waiting for my uh my court, my
court hereing or whatever they got just like they put
random like uh inmates and like one little cell together,
we all seeing together, old ass nigga and the cut
like a nigga. I'm like, bro, this nigga is not
supposed to be in here, like way too old, just
like and you could tell he'd be drunk.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
It looked like some ship out of a movie, like
drunken Japanese Uncle Jan sometimes welcome to Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 7 (50:34):
He was waiting for your ass, he was. He was like,
I knew you would show up.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
It's literally like a movie at this point, Like I said,
you Americans, I knew I would see what if you eventually.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I don't know why I did that, like the Kung Fu.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
But yo, but hold on, hold on, hold on makes
some noise for Mike making it home and yeah, Japan
Japano funk around. They really don't like I remember, you know,
they've got no trash cans out there, like and I
was like, and I asked the homite who lives out there,
And I was like, yo, why don't want no trash
cans in the street? And they're like, oh, because like
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one guy in the eighties was dropping like homemade explosives. Yeah,
so they caught his ass like he was like like
an arsonist for real. So they caught his ass and
Japan was like yeah, damn, like yo, So now everybody
just everybody just got to walk around with their trash.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
I guess so crazy. Yeah on the ground like irresponsible guy.
Speaker 6 (51:41):
Yeah, but don't let us go here. Liter literally don't
hit us.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
He was sorry. Speaking of ship hitting.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
You are responsible for a festival, you put it together, curate.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
It, but it is in conjunction with New York City.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
How do you navigate that ship because everybody is like
fuck the mayor no matter what is especially this.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
One because this one is.
Speaker 8 (52:11):
So how do you do that and then have a
song like mayors and co know it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (52:18):
I feel like with a lot of stuff, I just
be waiting to like some crazy shit like like even
with that, like we're lucky we work with summer stage
with festival. Yeah, like the people are at Summer stage.
Shout out to Erica who were helping us out there
and in the young world right yeah young girl.
Speaker 10 (52:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
So number it's number five is number five. That is exciting,
Like it's it's crazy. I feel like being from all
these different places, like when I got to Brooklyn, like
that's why I went to high school. Pretty much.
Speaker 8 (52:53):
It's such it's a place that did so much for
me that I feel like.
Speaker 6 (52:56):
In my like years, like really coming of ASI and
Ship and I feel like being able to do the
young girl.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
It's like, oh, Ship, you just sucked me up. You
said the ship before about slick Rick. Is that why?
Speaker 8 (53:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's why you got top.
Speaker 7 (53:17):
We're sitting with an original open your.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
Council, firi. Wow it was loaded for thirty minutes.
Speaker 7 (53:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's that ship went. That ship went off
like an Edison bulb.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
It was like, yeah, we were lucky enough to get
him to play. I think it was the second one.
That's the first one we did at Herban Vankin.
Speaker 10 (53:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (53:52):
It was just super fire. Like he's like personally one
of my biggest influences, I feel like style just like
just the idea of creating worlds and stuff. So it's
always it was a point of time of pointing things
to feel like to kind of like keep that energy going,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
And he's ill too, because like I'm sure you could
say the same, like when you meet him, it's like, bro,
do you know that you're slick Rick?
Speaker 4 (54:18):
He moved around like he's just a regular dude. I'm like, bro,
you are a pillar of hip hop.
Speaker 6 (54:22):
Yeah, literally like goes.
Speaker 7 (54:25):
It's like it's like Jadakiss when he be on I
G Live arguing with Randoms about football. He car washings
like I don't think my home is gonna do with
this ship.
Speaker 8 (54:37):
It was not, it was, it's not.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
I don't know your fel I don't know what you
talk about, sat got it. I don't know what you're
talking about, daddy. And I'm just like, bro, this is you, Bro,
you you you made money power respect? Yeah, Like what
the fun? Why are you arguing with the guy pumping
your gay?
Speaker 7 (55:00):
So, like you know talking about Young World is about
to be your fifth one just drop show Biz seventy
one show World tour. So like, what does twenty six
year old Mike at this point right because you mentioned
like people out in Scandinavia saying, Yo, I've been fucking
with you for a decade, right, Like at this point
in your life and your career, like what would you
say to fifteen sixteen year old Mike? What would you
(55:22):
say to him? And would you do anything differently this?
Or you know what I'm saying, like what.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
Clean your bag up before.
Speaker 10 (55:29):
That?
Speaker 6 (55:29):
Definitely be the one thing I'm like, yeah, be careful,
be careful the way you're going out to japanily, So.
Speaker 8 (55:36):
I don't know, low key, I feel like I kind
of have like this conversation is ongoing, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Because when music, the music thing kind of started going,
Like once I knew I was really about to invest
in music, I kind of just gave up everything else.
So it was like I was, this is where I'm going.
And I have this analogy that's like when you do
shit like that kind of like you go it's like
you're swimming, you go under water, and then like you're
(56:04):
swimming for hell long, and when you pick your head
back out, you're like, I don't know where the fuck
I'm at, you know what I mean, But like you're
just somewhere, you know, And it's like I think sometimes
it's like it's just crazy. I'll be thinking about like
where I was, like back when like I was taking
the train, like the two Trader shit, like thinking like I.
Speaker 8 (56:26):
Wanted a lot of this stuff but like almost didn't
seem possible.
Speaker 6 (56:31):
And like even in the times where I would be
like yo, like I'm sure that this is going to happen,
it's like you kind of have to like be foolish,
you know, like yeah, foolish enough to like be like
I'm believing in like my own dumb dream. Yeah, like
you have like the closest people to you be like, yeah,
that shit is done like.
Speaker 7 (56:50):
Until it's not, until it's not, and then them same
people you look at them.
Speaker 6 (56:54):
Likely and that moment feels good as fun. But the
even it's like what I realized too is that like
people only say shit like that because they never believed
in and.
Speaker 7 (57:08):
Then it hurts, bro, especially when it's the homie, but
because like it's like damn, like I wish you believed
in this ship because it's like, bro, I'm trying to
win for us.
Speaker 6 (57:17):
It's like it's like even sometimes it should I be
thinking about it, even for like the uh like parents
like uncles and aunties and ships like you are so
far down the line of like I don't believe in
the things that can like you know, be accomplished that
like you're like, bro, don't even try, please don't try.
(57:39):
And I'm like, bro, like it's like because I'll be
saying this music for real saved my life, like and
like not to be one of them type niggas, but
like there's like it fully saved my life and I've
seen how it saved my life, and I just be
thinking like, oh, this is something that could save people's lives,
like you know what I mean. Like I'll just be
(58:00):
trying to share share that the fact. Like it's like
you know, like when niggas is doing all the like
methods and ship during the stimulus times, it's like, you
get the method.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
What was that?
Speaker 7 (58:15):
What it's one of your bars to uh uh? Homie
told me not to praise cash share it when it came.
So it's like, so it's cool that like you actually
see you one of those you one of those rappers, bro,
because like I live with the funk I'll be talking
about and you you, like I believe you when you
rap type and like that ship is like rare, you
(58:35):
know what I mean. It's like like the more you
listen to, the more you're in different pockets, the more
you start to like like like zone in on that
type of ship, you know what I mean. And like
you being independent, you believing in yourself and believing in
this in this dream you set up for yourself has
put you in a in a position where like you
(58:57):
could do stuff like draper palestinium f over your shoulders
at live shows, and you know that that's not going
to affect the bread because all that ship is coming
from you and it's coming to you, and there there
aren't these huge corporate entities you got to answer to,
you know what I mean, Like a lot of rappers
that be signed type shit.
Speaker 4 (59:14):
So it's like, is there is there a.
Speaker 7 (59:18):
Is there still a part of you that is like
nervous about that type of ship, like your perception or whatever,
or like oh like if I if I rep this
cause or whatever, then is that gonna bar me from
playing a show and like Beetha or whatever the fuck?
You know what I'm saying? Like yeah, so like how
does that affect your How does that affect the decisions
(59:40):
you make?
Speaker 4 (59:40):
Being so independent? Look key?
Speaker 6 (59:44):
Like are you thinking about like the Homie? Like the
Homie or Sweatshirt is like one of my favorite, like
since high school, like one of my favorite rappers, and
like that's like one of the first rappers that I
got to like I feel like making music in my
bedroom and ship and like that, like when I seen
(01:00:06):
life working that way, I've always just been like like
being your favorite, like one of your favorite rappers first
kind of puts you in a place where it's like
all right, like I don't necessarily have to keep doing
the ship that like they tell you to do, because
like life is just operating how life operates, you know
what I mean, Like and.
Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
Like in my head too, like.
Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
I'm not even sure I even tell te ship, but
like am I Like when you grow up, you're like, oh,
you meet the big rapper. After that I'm famous, Like
I'm like, yeah, I remember that that year being like
oh yeah, it's going up, like and then you realize like,
oh fuck, I need to like work, yeah, like I
(01:00:51):
need to make albums like and and and then like
you just realized. But then like it was a fra
time that like my dream or like my idea got challenged,
and then like I realized that the challenge wasn't too much,
you know, like I feel like I'm in a place
where right now, and it's not easy, I say, because
(01:01:13):
like there's definitely years of like people, uh maybe sleeping
on us because we decide to move in a certain
way or like decide to like do like certain shit,
like and that shit definitely like they're working towards something
like whether to say it works or not, like is
you know whatever, But like I feel like when you
(01:01:35):
stick to like what you believe it in, like what
you do, it just kind of like gives you more
of what you personally want, you know what I mean.
Like I've towed people who like and this is like
I try my bestines not to do it. No more
like I've torted people that I'm like, bro, like we're
on so much like of a different wavelength and not
(01:01:56):
even like the topic.
Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
Of the music, just like like where you're moving and
approaching this.
Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
Whole literally because people can see, like people can see
that before they even hearing what you're saying, like because
you can be talking about the craziest ship and but
people can still keep a part of you that's human
where they're like you know what. Like I've told with
a nigga and had a nigga mom come up to
me like I'm so happy he was able to be
positive after like like so and I'm like yo, like.
Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
It's like yo, I'm so happy, Like sorry for this experience.
Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Damn you have to watch my son get starady.
Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
But I was literity like like like.
Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Literity like that ship I'd be like yo, like fun
like it's really more so and I think about it too,
like even what we were talking about earlier about like
you decided to go about MARYL and you de signed
to go about Mike. Like what I want, wife is
when I get older, if I do becoming a super
big artist, I never want to get too big where
I can't go somewhere and like you know, ship is
(01:03:09):
like too much, you know, like I have family as well,
like I want to decide their own ship, Like this
is how I want to live and do this, and
I want to go get some maxes.
Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
Yeah, I'm trying to go to the city jeans.
Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Bro like how I want ship to be, just like
the love could be, Like oh I can get those
for free for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I've been doing that balancing decade.
Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yo yo yo, you gang like yodap, you up little
self people, but not let me tell you something. I
came out main Rigs. I came out of Atlantic Records
office one time and a boogie was was there and
he was on a bus. He wasn't even outside like
(01:03:58):
in the physical like walking aroun he was What the.
Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Fuck was that he wasn't outside in the realm of men.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
I'm in my unkbo broot, I want to talk about
your your overstand God, is this one of the know
he was inside the bus?
Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Yeah, and people just assumed that he was inside. Nobody
knew he was. They just assumed he was inside.
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
And there was thirty thousand teenagers hanging off the bus.
Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Ship is moving yeah, and they're like, yeah, like world
War Was he trying to get in the bucket?
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
I was like, bro, see, that's that's too much.
Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
That's that's I mean thinking about it too. I think
it's just crazy for the fan that as it is.
I think it's crazy for the artists as it is
for the fan, because y'all both are just in this
like y'all lucky in the same economy. Like it's like
like it's like a relationship that like doesn't look he like,
go away, Yeah, I need you because also be like, oh,
(01:05:01):
like when I'm on stage, I'm not fenna, be like, yo, no.
Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
I don't stay see you. Then when I see you outside.
Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
Exists like when you're not playing some bread in my pockets.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
People will say to me like yo, maryl yo, big fan. Whatever,
And then be like Yo, like peace, you know what
I'm saying. And I'm just like yo, bro, like you know,
you know what I'm saying, take a flick of some ship,
like I'm more excited than you. If this stops happening,
something's gone wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
You know what I'm saying. We're not We're not like
we think we are. If we can't pull up to
foot locker and be behind the gun.
Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Is like yo, Yo, man, funny, it's it's not really
a really really scary one happened once, Bro, my fucking uber.
Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Eats guy recognized me crazy. That ship's scary. A total
stranger knows.
Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Where you live and know that you like to.
Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Like, I've had a nigga. My landlord had a nigga
come to my crib to fix some ship like fix
like patches in the walls and ship the nigga. First,
I opened the door. I didn't even know the nigga
was coming that day, but my landlord just like yo,
just said this nig to your curve, open the door.
He looked at me, he like I'm looking at this
nigga like yeah. He's like Yo, He's like, you look familiar, and.
Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I'm like no, in my head.
Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
I'm just it can't be.
Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I was like, no, I can't be.
Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
I like there's no worry.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Yeah, I was like this ship im like went to
high school around here.
Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
Da da da da.
Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
Like he's like, oh, nah you make music.
Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
I'm like yeah, yeah, like you might no, He's like nah, bro,
mind you Like the nigga is so excited, like and
he's like.
Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
Nah, like walk straight into my curve.
Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
He's like he's like this is.
Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Crazy literally at this point, Like I was like mind
shot at the time. Is in the back like she
listening to this whole ship.
Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
She looky.
Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
I'm like, yo, you being me as because she just
laughing at hard like bro, like like the thing is
literally just like yo, like I focus your telling me
mad like different shit that. I'm like, you're my crib
right now to like I was gonna show love regardless,
but now I gotta be a commodation because like you
definitely can't hear to work, but like you here on
(01:07:18):
some homie.
Speaker 8 (01:07:21):
Texante bro, like.
Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Now you gotta he gonna leave there with a story anyway,
you might as well give him a good one like post.
Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
That I remember I was trying to like I'm like Yo,
like you trying to smoke.
Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
He's like, I want to job right now?
Speaker 10 (01:07:36):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Is that a fried nigga thing? Because I'd be over
every time somebody comes to my crib.
Speaker 11 (01:07:41):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
It could be a plumber, you know, it don't matter.
I'm like, Yo, you're trying to yo. You're trying to like,
can I get you something?
Speaker 11 (01:07:50):
Yo?
Speaker 10 (01:07:50):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Like I got to show my name on it. Right now,
I'm driving a van. I can't get you. We can't
play cold right now. We can't jump into stan. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be like y'oall Mike, I got the
Nicki Minaj skin.
Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
I know your niggas will be a call of duty.
Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Bro, No, bro, not not. I Yeah, I'll be on
that ship crab.
Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
We got a lock of shut Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
Don't listen here. He'd be on roadblocks, dance battling.
Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Yeah, because I got I got full kids.
Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Three boys is uh nine eleven and about to be fourteen,
so they always and they all got a fucking place.
Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
Yeah, I know they're going stupid on again.
Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
They're going super I'm getting the fucking American Express app Alert.
Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
Home for school, Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Twenty nine dollars right, I'm like, bro, what the fuck.
I'm like, yo, yo yo, and Mockers called me on
the phone. I'm like, we live in the same house.
Speaker 11 (01:08:55):
Well bro, what you're doing right?
Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Y'all I'm on the fucking zoom bro with the president, Like, Yo.
Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
That ship.
Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Get out of that ship?
Speaker 10 (01:09:03):
Bro, Yo?
Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Ready up? Yeah, that's hard, get it.
Speaker 10 (01:09:10):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Got I'm sure you're a video later the first and
I never put one up again. I put a video
up of us playing Fortnite altogether, and then I was
just like I can't do this no more because I
was just at the time, my oldest was like nine,
so it was just like nine and like six and
ship and so like they little little and like we
played the game and ship and like it was the
season where.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
They had the UFO.
Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Well you can use the tractor being to like drag
people around. So he's trying to drown some it's the
last guy. It's a four v one like it's four
of us versus one.
Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Dude. He's like, I'm gonna drown him. I'm like, you
might be a serial killer man.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah, So he's just like he has him in the
UFO and then my youngest son, who's like five at
the time.
Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
He just comes sliding down the hill with the ar
like and just shoots the dude. And then my older
sudden is just like, Yo, you done, motherfucker, drive me
a piece of ship.
Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Yeah, but but you know, but you know the mics,
they don't beat they don't beat hot qualities.
Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
You would have McDonald's drive.
Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
It's crazy definitely with that, Yeah, Bro, I think it's
a Fried mentality thing where it's just like, fuck you
was definitely talking about something and I was just like,
it's a Fried guy thing and I forgot what it
was because I'm a Fried guy.
Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
It's just no, like just offering a smoke with people.
Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Yeah, that's just a bro you get right, I get right.
Yeah like that, but you just got high all the time.
Speaker 7 (01:10:35):
Bro, yeah all the time. But okay, Mike, you see
what happens when you deal with a motherfucker that already
made it. You see what happens This motherfucker trying to
get me fried eleven am shake shack in the morning,
and I'm like, merrill, one of us gotta steer the
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ship like one of us.
Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
Got nah.
Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
That's definitely like my vibes for show, like I'll be
having like people over, like I'll be sick, like I
have like Shorddy over the crew. We'll wake up. It
gets like three pm. I'm like forced listening like like
no food like water maybe just like just like I'm like.
Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
No, we just people, yo, bro, like your skin looks
great and I'm like, really.
Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
What do you do remember saying that ship Caro covid.
Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
Yo crazy?
Speaker 11 (01:11:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Speaking of speaking, you mentioned your kids and speaking to
the kids. I feel like we're in a We're in
a landscape now with music right where like fans attentionspan,
specifically kids like that attention span keeps getting smaller and
songs keep getting shorter to accommodate this, and you managed
to consistently put out music that appeals to this shift
in listeners, with songs like Hunger, Like your song Hunger
(01:12:07):
is like top five for me of all time. That
shit is like a minute in nine seconds. But but
your songs never feel incomplete, So like how do you
manage to tell a whole story in such short bursts?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Like because I'm like middle unk, like I'm.
Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
Like almost bridge and two hooks, you know what I'm
saying I'm in between Mike and Merrow where I'm like, nah,
like this ship need a hook, this ship need a bridge,
like whatever. But like, but like you have that sort
of you have the confidence to just tell that story
and however long it is, is what it is, and
(01:12:45):
and and you do it in a way where it
never feels like it's not done, like how like what
the fuck?
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
How you do that shit?
Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Man? I feel like just trying to do whatever feels natural,
like kind of I hope that when the person whoever
is listening to it can kind of feel that natural
energy where they're like, all right, this nigga decided to
let it go right there, then I'll let it go too,
like because and usually when I'm writing, I hate to
write and then come back to writing.
Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
You know what I mean, the same track? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because it feels like you're never in the same headspace
twice literally, and then I like it turns something that
could it works out Sometimes.
Speaker 6 (01:13:24):
I like, if you halfway writing some ship, like you
didn't finish your verse, then you could come the next
day and finish the rest of the verse, but like
adding like a whole new verse to some ship for
me is like like I'm just already on to like.
Speaker 7 (01:13:37):
On some different yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I.
Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Definitely got like young people bring to like I b
majority of the day, I'm just scrolling.
Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Crazy because like I'll be an hour into my stream
and ship and like I have like a whole thing like, Yo,
I'm gonna get into this. I was like, Yo, new
Victory like came out of this is culiar. But Rainy
did this funny thing. I'm I'm gonna plug that. We're
gonna do this super Bowl doing that And I'm like, Yo,
we're watching bug fights, y what I want to watch?
(01:14:18):
Watch this, yo, Mantis versus your your Mike. You're trying
to watch this Manti, your Mike?
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Take you that you sending people up to this rich
little seen this.
Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
Literally that's literally like the life we live at Ship
Street Beafs. I was on Street Beasts for long, yo,
crazy the last while. I was honest. You know the
nigga that used to dress low key like like her
(01:14:57):
faith like a like a house like a ho. Yeah
I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
Yeah, he had hands out.
Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
You got to when you're dressed like.
Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Crazy that the same relations go so.
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Crazy, bro, they'd be like, it's like, yo, one hour
of the most people. I'm like what, and it's like, Bro,
it's a nigga. It's like a guy in these nigga
and sweatpants. This is like this big, tall white dude
from West Virginia. The dude from West Virginia looks like
fucking Connor McGregor and he played at n b A.
And then the Guatemala dude just whoop his ass, just
(01:15:37):
drunk him, bro, and the whole ring. Bro, it's crazy
because the ring is made out of like plywood.
Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Yeah, they.
Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Yo, this is crazy.
Speaker 7 (01:15:47):
One of these days, Mike, you're gonna be watching one
of them ships and you can see Ernesto from the
Two Trains from from high school days. She's like, I
mean it's still from Guatemala.
Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I'm like, listen, man, we have a segment that I
would like to say is reoccurring, but it's not reoccurring
because you are the first you know what I'm saying,
to take part in this. This is the victory like
ten fold fitted, bro. And the reason why we have
this two four fit is for you to put it
on your dome to protect you from the five g
Rais and.
Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Tell us what is your most favorite conspiracy theory?
Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
You might not believe it, brother, but as and as
a fried individual, I know you got a few of them, mother,
you know.
Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
So I'm definitely one of them niggas that be sounded
like what.
Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Let's go alright, let's let's get into it.
Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
All right, So drip, there's a white constant. Yeah, low key,
it's a real thing. That the idea of cool coolness.
(01:17:10):
It's lucky like a white like a white constract used
to low key prevent like people who go through real
situations from entering the idea of like coolness. Yeh like
like I feel like coolness is how you get louky
appropriation cultural appropriation.
Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Bro, because it's facts. Because ship don't really crack off
until white people find it.
Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Damn damn trap.
Speaker 11 (01:17:47):
Trap yo, motherfucking Mike in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
God damn. But this is go through like episode no
may the.
Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
Rest ninety three years of the Yeapper Man.
Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Lack of Vibe show. Bitch out right now cap that
don't even stream it? Bro, go buy vinyl.
Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
You go play that ship in Finland bro where they're
really abuciate. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
It's Mike, it's Rainy, it's a sign, it's Vig, it's
manage your boy that came out of the human dur
happen and this is victory, like bitch.
Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Hollo.
Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
Literedy like like h Literedy like like