"Failure Is A Part of Success" (w/ Anton Peeples)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. You are tuned into
the Vitamin D with Dawn Day podcast and I am
your host, Dawn Day, here to get you excited about
your life so that you can live life on purpose
and for a purpose. And this is your first time
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My name is Dawn, and you get Vitamin D from
the sun. So I'm here to shed light into your life.

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And I do this with inspirational insights and conversations with
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you want to be better and you want to do better,
then you're going to have to be able to see better.
So join me on this journey of living our best
lives and understanding and realizing how you are your greatest
stass act. What was on Instagram, which I usually am,

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and I came across this video I guess is A
pastor's name is Brian and Bullock over at Union Church
and Charlotte and he had this word where he was
talking about cake. Well he was compared like cake like
to the dream and vision like what we want and
how God shows a that, but we gotta look at like, well,
what are some of the main ingredients that you put

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together to make a cake? Where you got your eggs,
you got your flour, you got your milk, you got
your sugar, and each one of those ingredients. He compared
it to a season in our lives. He said, one,
you got your eggs. You know, that's the delicate that's
where everything can break season. You gotta be careful, perhaps
you even breaking out your comfort zone. Then he talked
about you got the season of sugar, where everything is sweet,

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everything seems to be going how you wanted to go.
You're happy, and this hold over your mold. Then he
goes on and talk about some flour. He said, that's
the season when it's dry. You ever felt like that,
everybody that you thought you could lean on they kind
of ghost at you. I like to correlate it to
perhaps even a pruning season. You know, sometimes you gotta
be isolating in order to elevate. Then you get in

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the season of milk, you know, abundance, where is everything
in surplus. But you look back and you said, well, god,
this ain't necessarily what you said you was gonna give me,
because you said it's a cake. Well then pass the bullock.
He says, well, take a look at it and see.
God says, I'm not just in the cake making business.

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But rather, if you stay around long enough, meaning if
you stay persistent, you stay consistent, and you keep going,
you realize that all these seasons work together, and you
just gotta have the persistence of dedication. You just gotta
have the understanding the patients in the grace because then
we're gonna mix all that up and guess what. Now

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you can bake your own Okay, not just one, but two,
three in surplus exceedingly beyond it, and we get to
a place we can start helping out other people. So
I guess what I say to you, don't get discouraged.
There's a reason for the season that you're in. Appreciate it.

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Always say eat the meat and spit out the bone.
What I mean by that is get the value you in,
the nourishment for where you are, from where you are
right now, it's coming. God is a slow to keep
his promise. God doesn't tease to take away. So that cake,

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that vision, that dream that you have for your life.
The seasons are here, stand it, keep going, it's happening.
Eat that cake. At of metaminy right with me and
get excited. I got antime. People's in the building, can

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we get the rounds of applause? Jeremiah, I'm grateful you here.
I'm so grateful to be here. First of all, I
love the name of the show, Vitamin D with don't
like that. I think that that is like, did I
tell you the history behind that name? No, you have
not tell me. Please tell me this, Okay, So you
know vitamin Did you get Vitamin D from the sun?

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So I'm here to shed light into your life. And
dawn means the break of day. And it started out
using the lyrics of popular music because I would use
the lyrics of music and intertwined it into a motivational message.
And that's because music has always spoken to me in
ways unimaginable. And I said, okay, I know my calling.
My purpose is to inspire. And oftentimes people look at

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people that inspire them like, you know, at least when
I was first introduced CEO s or like these reverence
and preachers, it's like, oh, you can't relate to me,
And it's like, well, why don't I get you something
that you're already rock into. Let me get you some
Vitamin D with something that you're rocking too, and then
twisted and intertwined a motivational message. So I feel often

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times sometimes you gotta go where people are and then
bring them when they need to be and it's expanded.
And I always say about shedding light because you know
you think of vitamin did you see dawn? Always so positive,
so happy I am, But just like in the dawn,
there's a dust, a yin and the yang. And when
you talk about shed and light, it's on good in
the back because I said, if you want to be

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better and you want to do better, you have to
be able to see better. Every time I hear you speak,
I just literally want to like close my eyes. I
want to lay down and I want to just like
manifest everything that you're giving out because it's just it
feels like it feels like Vitamin D, feels like love,
like joy like, it just feels good. And when I

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first met you, you remember when we first absolutely how
do people first? So I went to my homeboys, um
like opening for this this label that he started, and
he had it at his studio, really cool studio downtown,
and I went by myself and I was like walking around,
you know, trying to like feel energy, and immediately I

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felt your energy and it was just like radiant before
you even spoke words to me. And then I don't
know what we said, the words that we exchanged to
each other, but we said something and it was because
you were over theregaint your dream. I don't know what
it was, and you were like that was He was
like hi, and I was like, you were like, I
like your style. That's what it was. I peached your style.

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The style was crazy. The style was super dope. And
then but I really wanted to say, like, your energy
is so vibrant and it's so pure, but I didn't,
you know, it's kind of hard to tell people that
when you first meet them, you like, you know, freak
them out a little bit. But so then that happened.
I don't even think we exchanged information. It was just
that and that was it. She left a mark on me.

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So fast forward the next weekend, I'm working out and
it's like private kind of gym by my house and
I see her, the same person working out and I
was like, okay, this now we're going to connect, because
this is divine intervention. This happened for a reason, and
then she saved her number on my phone as vitamin deed.
I was like, why with the sun emoji? I was like, okay,

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like she's she's special. I have to have her in
my life. And then since then, like, um it really
has been rocking. And I was just I was actually
sharing with jere Mind and everybody with the podcast shortly
before I met you guys. I feel like I have
manifest as I said, I just want to meet like
a different group of people and just expand my group
of people that have more things in common with um

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as I'm working on expanding on my levels of vulnerability,
making room for Dawn and seeing Dawn. And I'm like,
right one time, it always is. Universe always works just
as it it's opposed to. Just be patient, r just
be patient. Do the work, hey, do the word the work.
The work is important, but you know, be patient in
that and enjoy the journey. You gotta find joy in

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the journey. My barber, Louis c Pal shout out to Little.
He says, Dawn, the journey isn't the experience, and the
experience is the journey. It's so true. I mean, it's
hard to live that sometimes because we always want what
we want when we want it, and then social media
we see other people have it already until you compare yourself.

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But literally, if you just sit and be grateful and
be thankful and sit in that, come on, that's how
the universe opens it up even quicker, so you can manifest,
you can get, you can grab whatever it is that
you truly desire. Gratitude is everything. Gratitude And they say,
the more grateful we are, the more things we have
to group careful for. Come on, what are you grateful
for everything? I'm grateful being in space with you. I'm

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grateful to just talk to a like minded soul like you.
I'm grateful for my family family. Air cover was on here,
she was out to aerical people shout out to it,
and I'm so happy to have my people. And we
all from Detroit, which is kind of crazy too in
l A. Like, you know what I'm saying, Since you're
talking about it from Detroit, tell us who you are,

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Tell the people who is this fine? Well, ladies and gentlemen,
you know what I'm saying that come all the way
from Detroit, Michigan. No, I'm just a simple kid, you
know what I mean. I grew up actually in the
suburbs of Detroit, a little small town called mar clements
Um too incredibly gifted, beautiful and enlightened parents. They raised

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me like that is the reason why I am the
man that I am is because of those two people.
And I'm thankful for them and my sister, she's kind
of like my third parents. I'm an artist. I'm a
true artist. Like I love anything that has to do
with our DJ I sing, I act, I produce, I write, um,

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I draw, like those things really just like fuel my fire. Yeah,
I do all those things, do all those things. Yeah,
I love you know. I feel like I remember back
back in the day when you had the real stars
and they did everything like them like I really love

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like Dorothy Dandrid's for instance, and like the oh like
filming the War stars and that's that's the really generation
that I love to watch. And they did it all.
And I think now it's coming back into that this
new renaissance, you know, shout out to be ice. But
but we were all but you know, all my folks

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my trial, we were talking about this new renaissance before
she started speaking about it, which I love that she
brought light to it. Yeah, we shed a light. And
you know, it's about artistry right now, and if you
have are you gotta share it. It's all about that
and I believe fully in that and letting your life shine.
You gotta be bold, Yeah, you gotta be because people

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are coming to critique the art. And it's like when
Erica by dudes like, I'm an artist and I'm sensitive
about my ship, and I think like we all have
this tendency to be great and to create this beautiful art,
but you gotta be bold step into the light. Here's
the thing I think oftentimes we feel like we gotta
show up as something already prepared in package, not realizing

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that we're living. We haven't just lived, so it's not
done and that I energy process. Um, they're gonna be
a fifth things that are imperfections, But what do they say?
What allows the diamond to shine on the multitudes of
cuts that have been placed within it? So if I
said step into the light and oh I'm not great here,
Oh I'm not great there, but I'm bold enough. I'm
just reflection. Come on, and I'm just trying to be

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reflecting that greatness I'm reflecting. I'm reflecting the dawn light.
You've been these some tweetable moments. You've been hitting them
with the gems like since Nuggets. I mean, that's what
happens when you're getting the presence of Anton people. Yes,
I'm just saying, So here we are, Like you said, uh,

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Detroit or suburbs. There you went to ds A Detroit
School of performing final, performing arts, the Pharos, what's it?
The Pharaohs? What's your mascot? I don't even know if
we had one. We don't have any sports. It was
all just performing arts. We had like a band. Um,
but that was Yeah, that was it. You knew you

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wanted to act way back then. Knew I wanted to
act when I was like the age of four. What
were you doing? Um? I would always perform for my family. Um.
And to be honest, like, I grew up with my sister.
Knowing when you say sister, you have a few siblings, right,
So I'm the last of twelve. I have six sisters
and five brothers. So when you say sister, who, there's

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eleven other people you could be talking about. So Erica,
people's the actress. So when she got into acting classes.
My mom put her in anton classes and then she
put me in as well, and I just wanted to
do anything that my sister was doing Big sisters. Yeah,
So I think that's when I kind of really honed

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in on my talent. I was like, oh, I'm I'm
pretty good at this, Like, this is something that I
like to do. So I knew at the age of
like four or five that you know, this is what
I loved to do. One of the parts of my
talent that I love to do. Well, you know, I
want to be honest. I truly admire the relationship that
you and Erica have. I have older sister, she's three

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years older than me. We bumped hats a lot, and
she's a leo. You're supposed to get along very well.
You don't know. We're bringing up the heat and where.
I don't know, but I think it's like love and no.
Since you don't give up, you don't stop. But I
when I see you guys, and I see how you
guys and you know, move with each other and rock
with each other, lean with each other. Um, I just

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want to thank you for being that example. And that's
just something that's admirable and aspirational. Well I received that,
and I appreciate you acknowledging that. But let me tell you,
it's like we don't always all get along because we
are very strong personalities. But the love outweighs the bad
times for sure. You know, Like we get into it
all the time because we just have disagreements and she

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thinks she's the leader. I think I'm the leader. So
you've got two leaders. It's like when we work together,
oh my gosh, Like we have a few different projects
were working on and it gets hot whom we disagree.
But you know, I love her with all of my heart.
I love her to life. I hate to say I
love her to death, for you know, I love her life.

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People say like this is to die for. No, this
is to live for, to live for? What does it
mean to live though? Mm? To be free? What does
that mean? To be free? Oh, to not have any
restraints on anything you do, and to completely open yourself
to any possibility, to not stop your thoughts from going

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anywhere other than positivity, light and love and happiness. That's
what living for me is. Mm hmm, that's what living
for me is. I mean, I think it's partially for
me like what you're saying, what has on your tattoo?
And these damn tattoos? God um no fear, And I

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guess the ultimate state of vulnerability. I think that's probably
for me that ultimate freedom is. I think half the
time if we do things or don't do things, or
how we do things are based on what other people
think or based on the judgment we've placed on ourselves,
what we think that other people think about us. That part,
that part, and the time you carrying all of that,
I mean, but who cares at the end of the day,
Like why do we care what other people think about

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It's like, what is the point? They don't play our bills,
They really don't invest in us like that, And so
you know, why do we hold so much weight on
what other people think? Perhaps because for some reason, like
we're all trying to fit in but not realizing that
we're all meant to stand out. I don't want to
fit in. I want to be different. I want to

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be that other. I want to be an indigo child.
Yeah yeah, hell yes. My whole life I never fit in.
I never fit in anywhere, never fit in any schools
and went to I never fit in with the other kids.
I never fit in and you're comfortable with like that? Absolutely?
Really you never felt alone? Come on, yeah I felt alone? Sure?
So how did you manage That's about to say like, oh,
I'm gonna be different. I'm okay with being by mysse out.

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I mean, I think you find other people that are
different like you, and you also just know that there's
something different about you, so it's special, you know. I
think I always just knew it was something special about
being different. There's nothing wrong with that. And then I
would see other people on TV who are different, who
were weirdos as well, and knows the people that I,

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you know, look up to. That's all I love it.
I think like when you think about people that they
say weirdos, it's like they're thinking outside of the norm.
They're thinking outside of their mind, and it's like that's
what the magic, that's what the creation process happened. So
it's like, yeah, I do want it to be outside
of my mind. I want to think exceedingly and beyond.
And if you got faith and belief in anything, and

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if God says exceedingly and beyond far more than what
you could have very imagined, and it's all working for
your greater good. Stop playing with stop playing. That's it.
That's it, that's all you need to know. It's but
I don't know. Sometimes I feel like we were quick
to forget that. I don't for some reason where our

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minds moved so quickly, so we forget everything, you know,
we forget. For me personally, I forget the lessons that
I just learned last week. And I'm like, oh, okay,
I don't need to think so much. Get out of
your head, just be be present. You know, I have
to remind myself this all the time. Isn't that so
challenging as an artist? It's very challenging. It's very especially

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as an areas are because I'm already in my head
a lot, you know, you ever know a lot of areas,
Like we have big heads, yes, and we think too
damn much, damn much to that much. We think too
that much, don't get it done, and we're leaders um,

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and we have an aura about us, like you know,
we're walking through We're powerful beings. Were very powerful. And
I love the youthfulness and the joy that we have. Yeah,
because we love fun, we love newness, and like we
liked d a little bit so that that that keeps
you from this because as a young adolescent or young people,
they like to like explore and see what is this?

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You know, speaking time about adolescent. I can't believe I
didn't run into you in Detroit, because not only did
you go to ds A, but you were part of
mosay I was. Do you remember to the slogan for Mosaic?
Absolutely not, absolutely remember it? Okay, hit us with it,
hit us with it. Mosaic is a multicultural arts organization

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whose mission has developed young performing artists to theatrical and
musical training and to provide high quality performances for audiences
of all ages. Do that day that fact? How long
ago was it that you had to actually say that
in mosa How long ago? With your Mosaic? Now you
want how I am at least twenty something new? And

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you remember that they drilled it? I mean I've probably
recited again when um Erica was here, but yes, and
planted in my head. No, I was just looking at
this program though, um how was the last program I
was in was called Reality I think it was in
two thousand three Reality Reality TV something like that, and

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I played Monica. I think my character was to Monica Yeah,
that was way back then. But anyway, I was surprised
I didn't run unto you there. Yeah, I was there
in oh so I graduated or seven? So, but I
didn't graduate there. I graduated in New York. I was there,
oh five? Or you went to high school in New York.

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I finished high school in New York. Wait? What I
did my freshman and sophomore year in Detroit? And then
then where did you go? H New York? Went to
UM Performing Art School in New York PPS? Was that
stying for professional Performing Arts School? How did you find
out about that? So? I went to go visit of
my sister when she was in her third year of

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Juilliard for the summer, and I started to UM hang
around her and her friends, and I got introduced to
this music producer. He was like, Yo, you can't go
back to Detroit, like you gotta, we gotta work with you.
So I hit my mom my dad. My mom was like, well,
you can stay if you get into a really good school.
And so I auditioned for PPS and got into the

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musical theater department and I graduated from there. And where
did you go to college? I did not go to college.
I didn't go to college. I got accepted in the
moor House and at the time, I was like, you
know what, I kind of just want to stay in
New York and I want to like live the dream
and I want to audition, and I want to just

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work and figure out things and see what happens and
just living this. So I didn't go WHOA, Okay, I'm
not going to even continue anything else right there, Let's
figure out, or let's find out rather what happened, um
Paul post high school in Anti's decision not to go
to college. So when we come back, we're gonna talk

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about your role on your fox Head show, The Mix.
Also we're gonna talk about your cosmetic old company P
forty four, oh, and your latest acting roles that you've
got going on. All right, so we'll be right back.
It's Vitamin David Dawntay. Hey, Hello, it's your girl Girl Supermodel.

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His lyrics cross representing all my curvy girls out there. Hey,
what's up? Its j and you are teened into Vitamin
D with down Day at guys. Welcome back. It's Vitamin
d D Podcast. I have the one and only Anton
People's in here with me in case you're just checking out,

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but I know you're not because you're been here. You know. Anton,
He's from Clemens UM. He is an actor, a singer, producer,
and DJ. He uh is handling from Detroit High School
of Finding Performing Arts. But you also went to p
p A and p p A S and New York UM.
He started hbos and Secure b Ets, One Crazy Christmas, Voodoos,
Mr Mom and c w's All American Homecoming. And that's

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just the name a few. Let me also make mention
to you that he is the executive producer and one
of the hosts of Fox Souls The Mix. It's a
gen Z millennial talk show airing Tuesday nights on Fox Soul.
And lastly, he is the founder and curator of PTO
by Anton People's Um. It's an affordable luxury brand that

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sells cosmetic old blends for the body, scalp hair and blend.
And he is in here right now with it want
and my god, he's smelling and looking so good. You know,
true story. That's one of the ways I had recognized
you was your beard. Your beard game is official. You
know people have told me. But first of all that
intro that we we cannot just like skim over that.

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That intro was like crazy, I'm about to slice that
up and use that and listen, thank you, I appreciate you,
but thank you for that to that compliment. Yeah, that's why,
you know, it's a true testament of of what you
got going on. But we're gonna get to that and
talk about four to four and but first up, I
want to talk to you about um your says, UM,

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so you have started HBOS insecure, BT is one crazy
Christmas voodos, Mr Mom and c ws all Americans coming. Damn?
What have these roles taught to you? My brother all
in the same Like, where are you pulling your inspiration from? Well,
first of all, God is good all the time. And
I'm truly thankful to be able to um have grace

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the screen in any type of way, because there's so
many artists out here who haven't been able to be
on TV or be in a movie and had any
type of role. So I'm thankful for that first and foremost.
And what is it taught me? It taught me that
I needed dreams so much more bigger. You know, I'm
very grateful. We're talking about this like I'm in a

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season of gratitude right now. But when you get on
the set and you see there's levels to this. There's
levels to like what type of role you can have,
how many days you work, what your trailer looks like,
and like, you know, having your name outside on the lot, Like,
it's levels to this. So now it makes me realize
that the dream has been realized. But I got so

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much more work to do, and I'm just like a sponge.
I'm glad you talked about dreaming big because I had
talked about on a recent episode and I was saying
how important it is to dream big because if you
have faith and God said far more than what you
could ever imagine, how dare you not dreaming grmous? How

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dare you not dream something that seems impossible? And then guys,
okay you put it down. I'm a double down that
tenfold that what? Yep? It is this thing? I think
some um posted it recently. They said, I had, you know,
envisioned what I wanted my life to be, But God said,
but this, but this, because you have no idea what

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he the universe, whatever you believe in the higher being
has in store for you. You may want something all
day long. But what He has really a store for
you is bigger than you can ever imagine, ever imagine.
That's what I live in. That's where my thoughts are.
So I look at as a game. I'm going big.
It's like, Okay, I'm tell I'm gonna be bigger than open.
Because if if I can fathom, imagine what what? What

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that is? God? What you got for me? Can't you like?
Can't you feel it? Like you can? Like you can?
I When I manifest I realized that I am a
master manifesto that like things that I really truly desire,
I can truly make them happen and make them real.
So when I when I want something, I feel it,
I smell it, I can see it. I can close
my eyes and I know what I'm gonna be wearing

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when I'm gonna be in it, or or when I
taining it, like all of those things, Like I think
that's so important to know what you want, And that's
why it's also so important to make sure that your
desires come from a real place. Hey what does that mean?
That means not one with somebody else God just because
it looks good, you know it's it's asking your spirit
what aligns with this? What aligns with me? Is this

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something that I truly desire of? It's something that I
just want because I see it and it looks good.
And it's important to be honest about what we say
about what we design we want, because I said, you
ever really want to find out what it is that
you design want out of life? It's based on your choice. See,
I think oftentimes we get that confused and saying, oh,
I want this, I want to do that? Do you

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really doing all day? You say you want to be fine?
He's about to go there, But I'm just say to
be honest and I'm saying, definitely have grace. But again,
we have to make sure that we see what we
seek and if it isn't aligning, we just need to

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to to to retract and adjust the positioning of it.
That's all that. But yes, I I um, I can
wholeheardly agree with you. I've had moments where it would
just come down and rain and whatever reason. I'm just
grateful and I haven't bursted in tears yet, but usually
like I have a moment and it's so overwhelming, Like

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I'm not sad, but I literally can feel it in
my chest, and like you said, I can see it,
I can feel it, and it's like that whole thing,
like faith without works is dead, will act as if
you are. And so it is. If this is all
a place of imagination where we can create, isn't that
part of it being and doing because we're living? So

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I love what you said about that. Yeah, I mean,
I just think it's powerful to know what really aligns
with your spirit and to know if it's a desire
or if it's a want. But how do you know
if it aligns with you? I think it's a only
you get. I don't know if necessarily you can describe
what it is. What if? How does it make you feel?
When you get something doesn't make you feel happy? Are

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you sad? Do you feel uncomfortable? Um? I think comfortability
is important for me. Comfortability is important for you. Yes,
I must feel comfortable. Get that you know? Recently Blue
to loose my shout out to Blue, she said something
recently and just making decisions not to make them in
a sense of fog. It's an acronym acronym for fear,

(28:30):
obligation or guilt because just like you win't driving flog
fog without the proper equipment or making sure your visibility
is there's what you exactly because you can't see. So
if you are port inter fear direction, Hello, you have
no direction, You're just driving aimlessly. So it has to
feel good. I'm I'm I'm really trusting the feeling because

(28:52):
they say, you know the truth by the way that
it feels exactly. People can say what they want all day,
but if you don't feel good relationships and type of relationships, love, family,
like a pet, whatever, if it doesn't feel good your job,
you know this isn't right. Is it's not aligned, it's
not aligned with my spirit. Have you ever find out
what you're going after rolls? I'm sorry, do you ever

(29:14):
find that that comes your way when you're going after
rolls about not being fulfilling your spirit? Absolutely? I mean
I say no. I think there's so much more power
than no than in anything. And you know my age
is my rep is probably get annoyed, but I'm like, no,
if it doesn't work, if it doesn't feel right, I'm
saying no to it. Not based off of what you want,

(29:34):
because at the end of the day, you don't live
in my body. The only person that truly matters is me,
and that's in anything in my life. That's the family
wants me to do something. I say no so quick
you can make your head spin and I will be
okay with that because I have to feel good. My
spirit never lies to me. I did too much work,

(29:57):
I meantitate too much, I do too much prayer. Like
my bear always tells me like, uh, this ain't gonna
be something I gotta do. I'm sorry, I can't do
it this time, but I say it. I love no.
I don't working better at doing that. I found myself
is that now. Before I saw a transition where I
would prolong and like, okay, well let me see and
go through this limbover back and forth doing damn well,

(30:18):
I know off the bed what I should do or
we don't want to do. We all do that. Um.
But now I think, like how you said, my discernment
has definitely heightened more up and the clarity is there
because it's like it's that feeling, because it's like you
know when you want something absolutely you know it. You
know the moment when you meet somebody that instant feeling,
oh they look off for damn they find the energy

(30:41):
just feels right instant, but we don't go with that. Yes,
we don't go with them. We'll be like, oh, my
spirit is just telling me some things that you know,
it doesn't mean, let me just still investigate it. Oh
my God said, you'll be so uncomfortable. And I love
this so much. Good We're gonna continue that part. But

(31:02):
real quick, since we're talking about you're acting portfolio right now,
you're on c W and you are Coach Low, tell
us about your character, tell us about the series. Absolutely. So,
this is actually the spin off of UM, the original
All American on CW. It's like a huge hit. I

(31:22):
think they're in like season five right now, and they
just got renewed for another season. Yeah. So I'm blessed
to be a part of a spinoff because it already
has a fan base and it's about historically Black college
and HBCU Brixton University, and I am one of the
assistant baseball coaches and I get into it a lot

(31:44):
with the head coach who is UM portrayed by Corey Hardwood,
and he's a beast man. He's a beast of an actor.
I learned so much from him working with him. UM
just so much about like how to show up, how
to always be hungry, how to learn from your other
you know your other actors on set. He's just a
cool guy too. But we were blessed enough to get

(32:08):
renewed for a second season. So that's beautiful and we
shall see. We shall see if I come back, because
I can't I can't really reveal from people who haven't seen,
who are not called. But you know what I'm saying.
It made mean some thing, but it's but it's a blessing.

(32:31):
Like it's so crazy because I used to like go
to Warner Brothers lot. It's like manifesting. Hey, I just
want to be here as an actor. I want to
be working. And so like fast forward, I think like
three years, I'm coming on a lot and working and
it was nothing but a blessing. And I don't take
that for granted at all. Such a beautiful experience that recently,

(32:55):
I guess in ways I didn't know I was manifesting,
but um, like my you pass jobs that I've had,
like I was in the building there before I was
actually working there, almost like God was giving me a
glimpse of what was to come. Don't you love when
those things that I'm just grateful, because sometimes we can
get so distracted, and that's why I have to remind
people just to walk in that gratitude because I'm sure

(33:16):
you're living a day that you once praying for. Let
me tell you real, real, quick quick story. I went
to Atlanta to test for this show right on Tyler
Perry Studios. And there were a bunch of us that
got flown out to test for a multitude of shows
that he was he had going on. And I ran
into one of my home girls and she was there too,

(33:37):
and it was a long day, long process. And afterwards,
when we got on the bus to go back to
our hotels, I was just like, this is a long process,
you know, I hope it works out, you know whatever.
Whatever her energy, she came to me. She said, no,
this is a blessing. He said, do you know how
amazing this is the fact that we got own to Atlanta.

(34:01):
We're on Tyler pair of studios. We're in Georgia, Like
he owns this lot. He's a black man on this studio.
This is a blessing. She ends up booking the show
she's on Sisters. Her name is Ashley Brown. I think
she goes by Novi Brown. Now she want to leave, Yes,
she want to leaves on the show. And I was
like she had it was her energy. I've heard a

(34:24):
couple of times through you guys here, super sweet, super sweet,
and I'll never forget that. I was like, you know what,
from that day and I will never not have gratitude
no matter what's going on around me. And she was
just so like, this is a blessing. It's like whatever happens,
like we're blessed to even be a part of this
journey right now. She ends up booking the show, so
she knew she felt it. She felt into the spirit

(34:47):
grated tod his that's powerful, really powerful, right, and it
feels good, like expect great and it's like kind of
like being in that moment of just saying because I
think oftentimes when we fill ourselves up with disappointment, it's
because we expected something, and it's like you put so
much expectation whether than receive what it is. If I

(35:10):
can just be right here and now I won't miss it,
So whatever I thought was gonna happen, I got the
pre clue because I'm right here. So I always like, well,
can I get it in the now? It's a nerving
but it's the best place to be. It's the best
place to be. It's the most valuable place to be. Yeah,
it's vulnerable too. I mean that's vulnerability that worried we're

(35:33):
gonna get fair. I'm gonna tell you right now. Um,
if any moment you're like doing we're doing too much talking,
I gotta go just say it. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah,
because I'm looking at like, Yo, we got like dart
my minutes and Jeremiah like, don't let us in the clock.
But I'm just saying, listen, I'm gonna talk to your host.
This is what I do. This is like my show
is on hiatus right now. So this is this is

(35:54):
like joy to me. This is joy. I love it
speaking of which, because that's why I was about to
go next tell us about oh man, So I'm this
is like one of my babies. I'm so excited about
my show. It's a millennial gen Z talk show. Um,
and it's on Fox Soul, which is under the Fox umbrella.
And I am the co creator, executive producer, and one

(36:15):
of the hosts of the show. Is me The Mix
The Mix The Mix on Fox Soul. Uh it's me
alongside Romeo Miller Zonique, who is Tipping Tiny's daughter. Um.
We also have Jamie the Bows, who was the president
of the network's daughter and Tammy Row's daughter Jazz Anderson.

(36:38):
And it's uh, you know, multi gender talk show. We
talked about everything from celebrity gossip to yeah, so men
and women, men and moment on the show. Yeah. I
know when you hear multi Jenny like, it isn't yeah,
but men and women on the show. So, and it's
been a lot of fun. Man, it has been, like
truly one of the biggest blessed things in my life.

(37:00):
So you created that, like what the world? So I
kept like, I'm I love talk shows like that is
my guilty pleasure, from the Talk to Chew the Real,
like all of those talk shows, Wendy Williams, like I
watched all of us. I was on three of those.
I was supposed to wink no, it wasn't on No,

(37:21):
come on, Okay, Well, clearly even doing some things as
you were saying, um, So, I kept saying, like, there's
there's things that are missing in this market. We need
a show that represents people that look like me. Um,
A younger demographic and let's put men and women together

(37:42):
and let's have a talk show. So I came with
the idea. I brought it to my agent Nick. Shout
out to Nick Roses and Nick he's a beast, and
he brought the idea to Tiny Harris, and she had
some thoughts on how we could like bring other, you know,
beautiful ideas, until vamped the show. And then he also

(38:04):
brought it to our showrunner, Joe King, and so the
three of us, so four of us really came together
and created this incredible, dynamic show and we are going
into our third season this fall. Wow, can we get
a round with last Jeremiah? We gotta give yours? We don't.

(38:25):
We don't give you your flowers while you do that. Man.
It wasn't easy, though, I'll tell you it was a
journey because I had never hosted before, and so I
didn't even know how are these things happened? I had
never hosted. How was this? You never hosted? You're literally

(38:46):
just calling out these things and they happen. Yeah, I'm grateful,
and I do the work, but I've never done it,
and I always wanted to host, but every time I
told my reps this is like from when I was
sixteen to now, they always said, like, you can't be
a host and be an actor. No one's gonna take
you serious. You won't be able to do it. And
in my mind, I always knew that I'd be great

(39:06):
at it. Like I would watch like Terence J. And
I watched um, what was the cat? The host from
one or six in Park, Free and Free. I watched
a J and like, now he's only going on the news.
And I would always say, I want to do that.
And so when they gave me the nick actually said
you need to be one of the hosts, I was

(39:28):
scared and I said, no, no, no, no no, no, I'm
just creating this thing. I just want to Yeah, because
I was scared. I was scared. I didn't you know
it was gonna be. I was scared. So he was
like no. So I had to go through the whole
like testing and and you know, to be honest, nobody
wanted me on the show. Nobody, nobody. They they wanted,

(39:48):
they wanted someone famous, they wanted just someone different. And
so I had to fight literally as we're filming it
and I you know, was going through the season. I
still had to fight because they through that because I
think sometimes people think going after your dreams will be easy,
understanding the work or the sweat equity, like building yourself,
but then thinking about adversities such as that, because somebody

(40:10):
could have easily said, well, I am about to do this.
It was really tough. But I rise, why why did
you keep fighting? I care fighting because I knew that
I have a higher purpose and I knew that this
was for me, and I knew I could do it,
you know, And I also knew I wanted to do it.
I really wanted to be sitting alongside those co hosts

(40:35):
and living my dream and talking about different things and
inviting different celebrities in and just like you know, given
the heat, like I wanted it, and I just couldn't stop.
Like once I have my mind and something, there's no
way you're not going to allow me to win. And
so like throughout that time, it was a lot of adversity,
and the network didn't like me, and I had to

(40:56):
continue to fight. I was on TV and they were
still like trying to get other hosts to take my spot.
Everybody else was filling in but me, yes, until hearing
that was very tough. It was extremely tough, and eventually
I just like, I got in my group. It took
me like four or five months, and I found my voice.
I found out who I was. I got in my

(41:18):
group and I was rocking once I. Once I got
I was like, oh, okay, this is what we're doing,
this is okay, this is how I do it. And
I just let go of the fear and let go
of the fear, and I just was me. I was
just open. This was open when I was stopped trying
to be like someone else or what someone else wanted
me to be, and I just allowed myself to be free.

(41:39):
That's when I think I really shined, and that's when
I really secured my spot. You know, it's so unnerving.
It had so many emotions from me, um because I
think oftentimes we're searching for things that's right there, kind
of like when you think about the alchemist, he's on
this journey and it's like it's right there underneath your head.

(42:02):
And I think oftentimes we're searching a food to be
and it's like, yeoh, what's right there inside of us?
And when you said I was searching and trying or
before it could, it looked like I was searching or
was not searching to be anyone else. You said, I
just allowed myself to be in me and I got
in my group. You said, I was so free and
I was open. That damn openness. That's key. That is key.

(42:28):
That is where success lives. Success lives in freedom, vulnerability
and openness and being able to take risks. You know,
And I failed, and I'm okay with that. In the beginning,
I failed, and failure is a great part of success.
What does it look like to fail? What do you
mean you failed? I failed, meaning like I wasn't good

(42:50):
for a very long time, Like I was not I
was not living in my truth. I was not being
the greatest person that I could be or the best
host I could be. I was failing. I was failing.
Your real question, Yeah, so you um you did not
go to college. Yeah, you were still have the opportunity

(43:11):
to be on television shows and you have an agent.
You had no hosting experience, and here you are, you
know now your executive producer and creative your show. Did
you have a moment that you did not have anything
or were you were your Was your story different where
you were able to provide for yourself for had means
to absolutely not. When I was in New York living

(43:32):
with my sister, we struggle hard. Um, there were years
that I didn't have representation. There are years that I
was on financial struggling. Yes, no money. I mean, you know,
she and I had to have a job when we
were living in New York, but there are times we
couldn't pare the rent. For sure. There were times where
we got really really tough. She was in college, so

(43:53):
she couldn't really work like that, and you know, I
was in high school, so I get like a side,
a little hustle. And at the time I'm parents had
just divorced and they were going through their thing and
they were trying to get on their fee. So yeah, absolutely,
there were definitely moments of that. I think sometimes, you know,
we just look at how one track minded of what
a route looks like. And I think it's so important

(44:15):
for people to understand that you're gonna go through adversities,
whether you're financially trying to build up your dream or
you're gonna have people trying to tell you what you
cannot do, But it's something about that vision, some of
that purpose. So here you are. You guys are on hiatus.
So this is going into season four or you are
just complete the season three? This is going into season three.
We will film season three in the fall. Wow. Well,

(44:37):
if you ever needed extra reporter, are just like a
special news moment? Absolutely, it's here. I don't you know.
I'm gonna give you what your name? Absolutely? The voice alone,
the voice itself, milky and buttery. It is makes you
want to come back to just listen, Yes, just make
you want to spread on this more ways than one. Baby. So,
as you were on your process of doing Fox al,

(45:00):
is there something that you realize that it was needed
to run a talk show that perhaps you didn't realize
that you needed before. Yeah. Um, well for for the mass,
for people or for myself both? Yeah, I think that
and it is both. I think that young people, especially
young people of color, needed to see young black people

(45:24):
on TV on the screen doing the thing. Um. I
had never seen a show like that before we came along.
And I think that it really helped a lot of
people see themselves in us and be inspired in us.
Okay it we'll seeing yourself and be inspired in yourself
and others. Is there such thing of sharing too much? Yes? Really? Yeah?

(45:46):
I believe vulnerability. Vulnerability is key, but I think also
holding a few things to yourself is also key as well.
I don't think you want the world to know everything
about you, and also the world doesn't deserve to everything
about you. I think the world deserves to know what
it is you want them to know. And that's okay.

(46:08):
I don't want to know everything about everybody that we don't.
I don't get that you don't get to know my
deepest desires and you know what pains me the most.
Why Why why am I able to share that with everyone?
You don't deserve that. I love how you said you
don't deserve that, but I guess I would like to
or in my mind, I'm thinking walking to a realm

(46:28):
of If you ask me, it doesn't matter. I wanted
to be a sense I. What's your name on dawn?
So regardless of what you think, it is what it is,
and that is what it is. But see, for me,
something's matter, like something's having certain information? Is that sacred
to me should be sacred like some something's not everything,

(46:53):
Some things I think are are sacred to me and
my spirit and my heart that the world is necessarily
doesn't have to be privy to not everything, but there
are some things. So with that being saying, um, you
know why it's so important to have like your personal
your professional life. What's dating? Like dating? Like, what's up? Yeah,

(47:16):
I'm in a I'm in a relationship right though. I'm
in a relationship right now. And sorry, please try your
calla goodbye? You know what. So interesting? So in the
beginning when I was on my show, like, I definitely
did not want to talk about I didn't want to

(47:37):
talk about a few things. I didn't want to talk
about my sexuality. I didn't want to talk about like
my relationship. And I learned that if an audience is
going to come watch you, you have to be open
and honest because they like truth and they can read

(47:58):
through bullshit so easily, and people don't right now. People
want honesty and they want realness, you know what I mean.
So I had a hard time with the monom becoming
more comfortable with that. So how do you identify? Um,
I hate labels. I don't like I feel like it'd
be so corny with people like I hate labels, but
like for real, I don't try to be putting me
in old box. Yeah, I hate boxes and boxes. I've

(48:20):
never ever been in a box. I like to say
I like what I like when I like it. You know,
it could be this that somebody saying that, Oh, that's
just because you don't want to commit. No, I love
to commit like I love committing for sure, But I
also am a free spirit and I like a lot
of things because it's like you, Okay, I don't know
if you eat like beef and chicken, but let's just
say you may not want beef every every day to

(48:44):
day I said, I want some chicken, come on, and
and then tomorm might want some fish. And then the
next day I might want some yellowtail, you know what,
and today I might want to come on, come on.
I want it all. I want it all. And I
think our generation, especially like we've made it okay for
that to be okay? Did we? I think I feel

(49:04):
like there's so many people like I just think about people,
you know. I like the term um. I supposed to
get him on. Didn't get him on yet, but shout
out to David John's uh, amazing gentleman, amazing scholar. But
how he identifies. He says the same gender loving, and
I was like, I canna wrock with that because it
isn't because he says, like, I guess if you identify
as gay or bisexual or any other terms, it's more

(49:26):
of a political you know, governance. That pretty much not Jeremiah,
you need to jump in my ear if I say
some off um at two point five second um, I guess.
I don't want to say it benefits the white community.
I don't know what I'm trying to say, but basically,

(49:47):
it doesn't advance for people of color, doesn't um. But
I think even for myself, that's what I'm saying. I
have said I want to make around what I can
make wrong because when you see me and I'm talking
to you, and when I tell you about something Dawn
se and you know me and I plan to be
here for a long time. So but I think also
that has caused me, or has charged me to sit

(50:10):
back and make room for myself and to see myself,
because I don't think you have the time. People take
time to see themselves, so therefore they don't even know
what they're showing up as or to show people who
they are. Asked, you hit it right there. People don't
see themselves, they don't know who they are so you
can't see yourself. How the hell are you going to explain?
But you cannot see shop, you cannot be. But I

(50:34):
don't even know who this is. But I thank him,
I thank her? Why she said, how can you be
what you cannot say? It's true, It's very true. So
now you show up and you you're open? And what
does that mean when you said you're well, I think that,
like right now I'm in a relationship and I'm talking

(50:55):
to a dude right now. Um, But you know, before him,
I was actually married to a woman. You're married? Wait
what behind the current? What's happening to beautiful people's introviting?

(51:16):
Thedeed with Don Day, I was married at the age
for about a year and a half. Yeah, yeah, I
had no business being married at twenty four, Like no
business being married. But you know, like that's like I'm

(51:37):
an airy So I just go and I do and
if it feels it's a passion, if it feels good
in a moment, you know what I'm saying. I was
in my twenties. That's what the twenties are about. You
make mistakes and like you do bad things and then
you figure the ship out, you know, I'm still making
mistakes at thirty three, but you know, I still have
very much a sexual attraction and a desire to women

(52:00):
as well. And it's so interesting because a lot of
people don't understand that for whatever reason, for black men,
for black men especially, I feel like they try to
put us in a box and they don't allow us
to just be free and then just figure things out
because they're there. I mean, it is real that you
because I think it's like often times that they associate

(52:21):
your sexuality with your masculinity, and I'm realized that there's
two different things. You can be the most masculine dude
and be completely in the same gender into the same sex,
and you can be the most feminine guy and be
in love with both men and women or just being
loved with women. It's so interesting to me how like

(52:42):
white men have it very different. They're they got they
got a very easy, very easy. A white man can
be like, you know, very feminine and still be straight
and there's not an issue in the world. But if
it's a black dude, they're like, oh, that gay um,
And it's like, so what if he is, Yeah, like

(53:04):
that would be awesome. It to be you know, nourishing
an environment such as that, because it's like you're not
hurting anybody else, you know, what's that Well, the thing
that that's sad is the most is in the black community,
Black men, we have this very hyper masculinity and it's
so toxic. It's so toxic to the women the day,

(53:26):
it's so toxic to the children they raise. It's just
so toxic to us in general. It's like we have
to be like super hard and super strong and not
show emotion and not be connected emotionally, and I think
that holds us back. And until we all get rid
of this hyper masculinity and we allow ourselves to be free,
just be free, would be so much better off. Get

(53:47):
you realize, like even down to certain plants, like when
you talk about sexuality or the organs that we have,
like we contain boles. You can look at the ovaries
and see how we can transform into symbol or you know, penis.
It's like, I feel like once we get to that
place of making that space, I think a lot of

(54:07):
people will flourish a lot more because I think it
stops a lot of people from doing what they need
to do in this world where it's like we're thriving
off of connection. If we can show up as we are,
like my gosh, yes, that's the biggest thing. That we
should just be able to show up as we are.
We shouldn't have any labels or any boxes. Let us
just be, let us be free, let us be easy

(54:28):
and free. And I guess that's what I feel, like
that's what loved us. And I guess that's why they
say it's the strongest and the greatest force because a
lot of people are should say a lot I feel.
Let me work on my language, my usage. I feel
for so long, my perception or how I felt that
other people. You love is what you can hold onto,

(54:49):
what you have acquired. But what I realized is what
love allows, Especially when my mom transition, I realized sometimes
the greatest form of love is letting go, and love
is going to allow it to be free because exist transition. Yeah,
when I was thank you so, and it was just
at that moment that I realized that, you know, you
can be selfish and trying to keep somebody in pain,

(55:10):
selfish and trying to keep situations that don't work out,
selfish and been battling yourself and not aiding yourself to
the betterment of yourself. But where is the love of that?
That's not loving that? So I thank you for sharing that.
That's that's very vulnerable moment. Well I'm about to get
even real vulnerable right now because you popped the hell

(55:32):
out of me. So right here I was really popped.
We've been teating here. You have a line that you're
just established p. Forty four by Anton people P. Forty
four My observation. You got the forty four because you
would one on April four. That's right. Well, so P

(55:53):
stands for people's I'm all about the angels, all about
angel work and angel numbers, and you know I see
them all the time. Forty four four four just angels
in general. I see all of them ones, the twos, threes,
and four the numbers you look at what the meaning
and making sure that I'm cognizant of what my thought

(56:14):
process because whatever is happening then you gotta manifest before
is one of the most powerful numbers in all of numerology.
Like the person that told me that is Beyonce's choreographer,
Frank Gatson. He told me, he was like, what's your birthday?
And I said to eight before he said, do you
know how powerful the number four is? He said, Beyonce
is number four, he said, jay z is for He said,

(56:35):
four is one of the most powerful numbers that you
can ever have, or make or be. I said what.
So when he told me that, that's when I started
to do the research and figure out, like BI was
so powerful and the angel number forty four is means that,
like blessings are coming to you, stay true in your journey.
Everything is going to work out and it's going to
be okay. So I had to include four in the

(56:59):
name of my company. And I was born on the
fourth day of the fourth month, so you know, there
we go to p forty four. Yes, you know I'm
putting someone right now, just so you know, I just
put a little extra ry now, would you like I'm
a love sign A little yeah? And when I tell

(57:20):
you this smells, oh my god, you can put it everywhere, right,
whatever you put on your body, and you put on
your beer, you put on your lots, you can put
on your hair. I put it everything. What is this?
So it's an the central oil. And originally I wanted
to smell so good, right, I wanted to create something
that was good for my beard, because I was thank you.

(57:43):
I was finding that all these products were like they
smelt really bad or it weren't good for you, and
they had a bunch of stuff in it that I
couldn't pronounced um. So I said, you know, I'm gonna
make it myself. So on the journey of making it,
I just started researching what is good for the body
for the heir, and I put um ho argon oil,

(58:04):
almond oil, um coconut oil, all these beautiful enriched oils
that are so great for everything. And so I was
testing on some friends and they were like, oh my god,
this is amazing. And a lot of my homegirls was like,
I need some of this. So what I thought was
just a beard oil was so much bigger than that.

(58:26):
It's for the body. You can put it in your
diffuser and it helps the libido, It promotes hair growth,
it nourishes your skin. Yes, I put it on my feet.
It helps with your cuticles, like, there's so many beautiful
benefits for energies. Smells so good, so good. So this

(58:46):
is my second venture my business owner now, which is incredible.
I've always wanted to be a business owner because I
believe in generational wealth, so trying to create something that
I can pass down to my family and my kids,
you know what I mean. So, and this is just
the first product UM from P forty four by People.
So I'm also gonna make a body butter, which I'm

(59:06):
gonna launch this summer um with the same scent. Yeah,
body butter, because I love body butters and it's all
things that I really use, Like this is real stuff
I ain't know you know, bs, And this is a
true authenticity for me. And it's fun. Like I love
like when I see somebody who buys my product or
who I give it to and they're like, oh my god,

(59:27):
like this smells good or it makes me feel good,
like that ability to do that, it's just it tops
off for me. So I'm truly excited that my baby,
my P forty four baby is out for the world
to like, you know, to see. And you can buy
it um on the website P forty four by People's
dot com or you can go to my Instagram. I

(59:48):
got the link at antime People, so you can, you know,
check it out, check it out, check it out. Oh
I remember you asked me head could you come in
to shoot some stuff for your produ Jack, and I'm like, yeah,
and you were talking about you said the project had
a lot to do with love. You say love, love, love,
I mean even anybody that knows you. But in the

(01:00:09):
first like minute and a half, you know this is
bether gonna say something my love. It's gonna be your
energy and love. I just love it. But it's real.
You know. He's not the first person I met like this.
Shout out to Darelle. I wish you met Durell. I
don't know if he's in North Carolina, Tennessee or something
like that, but he was all about love and the hearts. Like,
oh man, it's so same line about it. Yeah, I

(01:00:33):
live love for me, like the one constant thing, Like, yeah,
I love love. I am a lover at heart. I
was raised with love. Are you in love? Yes? What
does it mean to me? In love? Oh no, it
ain't it easy love. I'm not gonna say it is easy, um,
But I think being in love is being um selfless

(01:00:58):
and giving to someone and being there for that person
when times are rough, times are great, being a constant
person in their life that they can depend on. I
think that is love. That's what it looks like for me,
But what does it mean to be in love? See,

(01:01:19):
I guess I got caught up. I felt so naked,
I felt so vulnerable. We had our moment, we had
an interview question. You said, have you ever been in love?
And I think a part of me I was like,
I was so embarrassed. I was so shocked. I don't know.
I was feeling all these moments of being naked because
I don't think I could ever say that I was
in love and if I was in a situation we're
dealing with somebody else that I wasn't like with them

(01:01:40):
or felt like I loved them, but whether or not,
but that was that mutual feeling like we're in it together.
I can't say that I had, and it was so
jarring for me. I don't know if I want to
feel bad. I think part of me I probably do
want to feel bad. But if that's my truth, that's yeah. No,
I mean, I mean, you know when I start getting

(01:02:00):
come to stuff just started as you learned more about God. No,
but it's a it's a it's definitely a feeling, you know,
when you're in love. I've been in a relationship with
where they were in love with me, and I was
not in love. And I love them, but I wasn't
in love. That's definitely a feeling that you have. So

(01:02:23):
you can't be in love with somebody and not be
in love with you, said I would. That's not true love,
and that is not real love. But that is love.
You know. It happens all the time, and people fell
out of love too. People fell all love all the time.
You know. I will say that I feel like I
don't know when I recognize it, like when it's a

(01:02:43):
it gravitates mutually, because I think it's like comfort, and
it's that one thing that I'd say that now, whether
it was a romantic in love, I guess that can
be lovels to that ship. We ain't about to go there,
but um, what permeates to me, and what you said
is that it is a constant, like it doesn't stop,
like you're always kind of the because love is not
going to give up, you know, I guess. And I
was just telling to somebody like the whole situation to

(01:03:04):
happened with Kurt Franklin, his son, like you spot this
whole debak all about him cursing going out when his
son had to be billed out to jail. His daddy
was there because love, they're gonna show up. Really yeah?
Was he in jail recently? Yeah? Recently. I forget what
the stent was. You didn't hear about what happened. My
My friend just told me a couple of days ago,
like something with a girl ended up deceased, And I

(01:03:27):
don't know, maybe maybe I don't know the whole story.
Maybe I don't know what. All I know was that
it was a phone call. League Kirk was closing them all, Oh, yeah,
that happened months ago. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that his
son got locked up and Kirk was like, let me
bring you out now. I don't know why. He means.
That's love, love of your son, your offspring, that's real love.

(01:03:47):
But you know some people don't even feel that love
from their parents. That's crazy. Well, hey, oh, I'm judging
you because you're judging, so we both judging. How wait wait,
what made you What was that reaction about that? I
mean because for me, I can I can never imagine
my parents not loving me and not showing me that love.

(01:04:09):
So when you said down, like, that's crazy a parent
not loving their child and not even feeling it right,
not even feel not even caring, or if your child
doesn't feel it, because that's a whole another moment. It's
a whole different situation, dynamic. Yeah, Like both of my
parents are deceased, but I definitely might. My dad died

(01:04:33):
when I was three months, so I never knew my dad.
And it's interesting to me. Told how much you're like
somebody that you've never met and looked like the entire life.
His name is Don Deo and I'm Dawn d w
An Like he proclaimed, like Dawn, You're going to be
the star and all this kind of like a lot
of things. My daddy was that guy. He had his
own record label, he's a police officer, real estate like
all that. How did he pass? He had a blood

(01:04:56):
cloth that traveled to his um. It's hard. Man wasn't
as hard on his lungs. I gotta find out. But yeah,
before they were able to detect it. So he went
in and it didn't expect that My mom had just
had me. She go up to the doctor. She went
to the hospital. He telling her, Janice, you know, go
back to the baby. Me and I didn't make it out.

(01:05:20):
Can you imagine I was like, oh my gosh. My
mom was like with thirty five, Oh my gosh, a
three months, Oh my gosh, and this is the love
of her life was oh yes, battle cancer three times.
Everything I am is because of my mom. Yeah, but
you're right to not know what that love looks like

(01:05:40):
or feels like. That's um, I want to say, Gregg right,
But to think that that's some people's reality legit. I mean,
I'm I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful that I've had
the love shared from both my mother and Emma father.

(01:06:00):
You know, that's nothing short of a blessing. And um,
this love that you and Erica gut you guys have
been gearing up, that you guys have been creating things
together with that kind of love. Right man, Wait pause
before we transfer that. Tell people I didn't get P
forty four. Yeah, So you can purchase P forty four
on the website it's uh P forty four by People's

(01:06:22):
dot com. Or you can go to the instagram P
forty four by People's on Instagram, or you can go
to my Instagram which is at anti People's. Okay, we're
gonna give you up here, he said, let me give
you all of it wise, But Erica, y'all creating something now, Yeah,
we're creating a few things. Um, we always have been
creative together. Like we used to put on plays when

(01:06:45):
we were kids, put on spoken the word you came,
you spent a little spoken word. We did an event
at Soho House called Love Jones at Soho be came
and Grace as you. So. First of all, I kept
saying that, how it's like you are a poet. She's like, no,
I'm not a poet. I said, you are a poet.
I hear it in your voice. Please spit something. And
she was one of the best poets that came that night.

(01:07:07):
Ended up doing two poems, one that she had and
then one that someone else wanted to read for them,
and you killed it. Please do more of that. You're
doing another event right, yeah, we're probably We're gonna try
to do it like once a month. Yeah, once a month.
But right now we are creating a show that's loosely

(01:07:28):
based about our lives. So a little bit what I
was talking about today when I moved in with her
at Juilliard in New York, and how you know, love
was the constant thing. A family was very strong and
we just managed to. You know, they haven't thrived in
a crazy city when I was sixteen and you know
she was with twenty two gangs stuff. So we're creating

(01:07:52):
that right now. We're almost finished writing and then we're
gonna be shopping it and you know you will see
it on your TVs. It's come into a TV soon now, Anton,
I gotta transfer this over a bit. This segment was
supposed to be done earlier, but we're gonna do it
right now. It's called shed Light, shed Light on this. Yeah.
I haven't recorded the but I need to get a

(01:08:14):
jingle like that. Like it's gonna be like like that,
because you know this this we're gonna do this in
front of a live audience, so it's gonna be like that.
That's going to be the fine. Oh yeah, we're gonna
be sitting on the stage and how the people there,
it's gonna be it. Then we're gonna be at people's
homes and cooking and things like on the spot, traveling
like yeah, so you know I do cook too, So listen,

(01:08:37):
I already saw your I g I didn't have, so
I got Aaron Jones. I'm coming over here. A love
of all things good and so I would love to
come food by people's just let me now, people, I
like that, Okay, catch it. But this is shed light
shed light on this. This a segment is called shed

(01:08:58):
light on this. It's a like where you are giving
a scenario with a character who is dealing with the
situation they don't know how to handle. Your task is
to come up with a solution that you believe will
work best for the situation. Now, there is no right
or wrong answer. Just give your advice from your knowledge
and life experience. Ant peoples, are you ready, Let's get it.

(01:09:22):
Andrew is an ambitious young man who wants to start
a talk show series on YouTube. He wants to host
it with people from different backgrounds, beliefs, and identities to
make it as diverse and inclusive as possible. He has
everything figured out for the structure of the show, but
there is one big issue that he does not know
how to handle. Andrew's best friend, Michael, wants to join

(01:09:43):
as a host for this YouTube series. And Andrew doesn't
want him on. Why well, because Michael has a tendency
to communicate in a way that pushes people's buttons and
instigates tension and almost every conversation he is a part of.
Andrew does not want his talk show to be no
for emotional arguments, but he fears what rejecting Michael will

(01:10:03):
do to their tenure friendship. Got it, can you help?
Said light? Said light on this, I will shed light,
shed light on this. I think that Andrew needs to
think a little bit more before he just cancels and
closed the door on Michael becoming one of the hosts
on his show. Two reasons. First being, Michael seems like

(01:10:24):
he's interesting to watch, and Michael seems like he was
gonna draw some members of the audience to view this show.
And I think Michael is going to make this show
a hit because people like a little confrontation, people like drama,
So that may be something for him to consider. And second,
I think that Andrew also needs to know that's a

(01:10:45):
tenure friendship and friendships of teen years don't come off
and so maybe you need to play with the idea
of testing it out or say, hey, listen, maybe I
can give you two shows. Let's see how it goes,
Let's see if the flow works, and if not, we're
still friends and we move on. If it works then hey,

(01:11:08):
we gotta hit show. We're gonna work together. But I
think that he definitely should think about that before just
saying though, m hm for sure there, because it's a
team that you gotta figure out. It's it's a it's
a formula. It's a formula, but all at the same
you know, play Devil's advocate. You know, you can't do
business with everybody. You can't. You cannot go on business

(01:11:31):
with every friend of yours. So you do need to
tread lightly on that, but you have to try. You know,
you never know what you try. Well, we shout some
light on that on this. I'm because we got another
little thing. Oh, let's do it. Let's do it. Okay,

(01:11:53):
Oh you gotta box. This is a vital chess, honey, Okay, okay, chess.
Some terms in here times that are based on your life,
things you've done, things are all part of the Anton
people's world. Now. The reason why this chess is so important,
This chess is important because with these terms we have
the out front or the blanketed definition. But I like

(01:12:18):
for you to get inspirational on me, metaphysical, you know,
tell me a different way I can receive this. What
do I mean by that, Okay, you know, just say
if you were playing basketball or you're a referee a
basketball player and the time that you pulled out was pivot.
What we know about paying basketball, A pivot is just
to ad adjustment, maybe a turn. Well, sometimes you have

(01:12:39):
to pivot in life, maybe pivot in the right direction
and pivot to a new choice, a pivot onto something new.
So anton people's are you understanding what the times means
for the chess? Absolutely? And I'm ready for this. Yeah yeah,
ready ship. All right, let me say shack check, say okay,

(01:13:00):
here we go. One sore. So the word I have
is pre production. So when I think of pre production,

(01:13:21):
I think that you have to be prepared in order
to produce, in order to go to that next step
in your life, in order to move, in order to manifest,
you have to prepare. Preparation means opportunity is everything. But
the opportunity you get is not going to work out
unless you are prepared. So you have to pre produce

(01:13:42):
before you can get into the actual production of whatever
you're doing in your life. You have to have it done.
You have to prepare, you have to do the work.
You have to be ready so that's my pre production.
That's the meta for my pre production? Did I Did
I do the game right? Yeah? Well the only thing
you can just said what was pre production? But I
mean they got it. Yeah, I guess I was thinking

(01:14:04):
to myself and I was like, oh, I'm about to
mess with the quote. What is it like? You plan
to fail or you can fail if you if you
fail to plan, you plan to fail. Absolutely, I've never
heard that, but I like that if you fail to plan. Yeah, yeah,
I'm learning that right now because you know, as I'm
taking it to the next level and get my macro

(01:14:24):
nutrients and putting my meals and stuff, and I'm like,
I gotta make sure I know what it is that
I'm going to eat so I know where I'm going.
That's that ball thing. If you have no no direction,
you don't know where you're going, right, you know, you
have no you have no destination. You're just going aimlessly.
That's no fun. That's that's that's depression. Do you want

(01:14:44):
to do another one? Yeah? Sex sake, shake that box bag,
check that box bag? Good. So first, what's the word

(01:15:05):
and what does it mean? And then how can you
apply to your life? Okay, so remaster. I've actually never
used this word a remaster, but I would imagine what
the real definition first, what that is, um so remaster
I would imagine too, it's a term, you know, they're

(01:15:27):
remixing the Yeah, I never heard that phrase. Yeah, give
me another one that was about the bullshit. A sequel,
like a sequel to a movie, or a sequel too

(01:15:47):
or something like that. Okay, okay, So a sequel, so
it would be like a part two, um of a
film or a show is the next going forward. How
I think you can apply this to your life would
be even when you get down, even when you fail,

(01:16:10):
you can have a part two. A part two is
more important and many times in the part one because
in part two you can redeem yourself. You can come
back stronger, you can come back better, you can come
back greater. So that's how I think you can apply
sequel to your life. You never counted out, you will

(01:16:33):
never be done. You always got that part two, that sequel,
it's the part two. I love that, and I guess
it's also when I think of sequel, it's like there's
more to come over. There's a process of reinventing, you know,
it's it would be unfortunate if the caterpillars thought it
was over on the sequel was to turn into a butterfly.

(01:16:54):
And guess what, because if we're relying on that sequel,
now we can take it to the new high Let's
take it to the next This is my favorite one.
Sequel was Yeah, sequel was sequel? Was that one? What's
the what's the sequel? The sequel? What's gonna happen next? Well,
I think that's right on target, because that's what I
was about to act. Okay, what's happening there? What's happening?

(01:17:16):
People know? Well, the next acting project I have believes,
I'm going to believe. I finally get to work with
my sister. We finally get to act together. And it's
um a horror movie, which is interesting enough. It's a
horror movie. We get to shoot in Brazil. Wow. Yeah,

(01:17:38):
I'm sorry, you gotta be saying believes it is believes,
it's believes. Believes. I'm going to be I've never been
there before. Yeah, So it's gonna be a beautiful, beautiful
time this summer we're shooting. I can't give too many
details on it, but I'm so, so so happy that
I finally to work with my sister, like and I've

(01:18:00):
been saying this for the longest, like when we're gonna
work together, and I thought it would be when we
created our show together. But this is even so much
cooler and I've always wanted to be like in a
horrific too. It's gonna be dope. Congratulations honey than you, shining, shining, shining, shining,

(01:18:21):
my people. So I guess with that being said, awesome, congratulations,
Thank you so much. Um. Is there anything else anyways
how we can support you? Yes? Um, well, I think
the biggest is by buying some of my P forty four.
Buying buying some of my P forty four. It's incredible,

(01:18:42):
it smells great. So O. Our slogan is, um, you
look good, you feel good, you smell good. I think
that's important, especially walking into any room. So I love
my four. Um, but also to just hit me up
on the ground, follow me on the ground, see what
I'm doing dayd You know, I think that what I want,

(01:19:03):
what I aspire, is to just be happy, happiness, joy, joy.
Well you know I can I who oh wow, what happened?
Are you wondering what just happened? I'm glad you had.
She she had like there were some things, there was
some moments that she just experienced. Okay, because I'm learning
to make it brown for myself, which is a result

(01:19:25):
allowed me to see myself. So, as you were expressing
how you felt, the Dawn Police is about to say,
you can't say you want to experience happy. First off,
let me make one for you to describe how you
want to feel. Okay, before I come in with my
thoughts on what I feel. As though you were gonna
sta so you were gonna say happy. And what I've

(01:19:48):
learned from improp shout out to the groundlings, um is
that happy is um. It's fleeing. But more so, joy
is a state of being. So we were sighed too.
Or you can only be happy for a moment, But
what is it that you want to reside? You know?
Kirk Franklin said the same thing in this song Smile.
I think he said, I don't want you to be

(01:20:09):
happy because happiness, because to be happy you have to
feel something. But joy, it's just it's just within you, boy,
it's there. So yes, I want to experience the joy,
more joy in my life, the most amount of jove
I've ever had and just continue to just love what
I do and have more things like this. Yes, well

(01:20:32):
we know how power for your time? Yes? And you
know what they said, life and death are on the
power of the time. That's why I got life tatting
in my mouth. Let me see where's that? You never
show me this first tattoo? What did that feel like
on your lip? Have you ever been the inside of

(01:20:53):
your life? Damn, that's what it feels like. It's like annoyance,
a little bite it It's like a little little bite
just digging in. That is that your only tattoo? And Okay,
did it hurt? Like those these hurt words? Yeah, the
car they hurt. These joints a for real? But um
this no, this bitch hard. This is a Chinese dragon

(01:21:19):
is the same artist the angel right here. Everything on
my body is like very spiritual, very like you know, beauty,
like it's about love. And I got the Buddha here,
like nothing is negative, nothing is just for the sake
of advertage tattoo. I wanna right, this is a greater
than equal to sign and this is my mom's signature, Jack,

(01:21:42):
and it's like the moms of despair. If I look down.
You know, I think of my mom and then I'm
strong and stronger if anything that comes our way, and
strong if not stronger the day before yesterday, and it
really works, I'll be like, oh my gosh, I'm like
oh and then I constantly speak live so and this
is for me because I was like, I see making
wrong for no I cared about what other people think.
I'm like, oh, I can't get our tattoos on my
body doing get whatever you want to get, whatever you

(01:22:05):
want to get. I'm working, listening. Free, freedom is freedom
is everything. So that was this. But I'm dope sleeves
and let me get a sleep, especially because now that
I'm releasing, you know, I say I'm releasing way because
I'm not losing because I'm not trying to find it

(01:22:29):
things to find them. Yo, that's get the come on,
get the away. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do
some sleeve joint. It's gonna be nice. I think you
would look really dope with a sleeve too something. But
I just asked something like ah, but I'm like, he's

(01:22:49):
gonna lock me in, it's gonna stop. I don't know,
we'll stop anything. I mean, look at Angelina Joe Lee.
She's tatted up Ruby Rose, tat it up. She is
so beautiful, she's everything just like her. Wait, which Rubro,
was you talking about the actress the white girl? Oka? Yeah,
I found it was another world was and I was like,
oh no, no, no, yeah, that girl or something. Yeah,

(01:23:10):
I don't know. She's super Australian ship bad. You're trying
to be on Vitamin D doing day at dot com.
All right, let's we stick at anti peoples on the
show though. Um you said so sure, making sure you reside,
enjoy and that people follow you on social media, which
is at antime people, and then we also have P

(01:23:33):
forty four by people. That's right, guys, make sure you
follow on social media. Show me some love. Thank you
for showing me some love by showing up to that.
Thank you for having me on the show and being
so gracious and like you're really good at what you do.
Like I've been sitting here and like taking notes and

(01:23:53):
like learning is like a master class for me. I
received that thank you. Oh man, I want to say
thank you as well, you know, shout out to lay Well.
He didn't even know he was just being an instrument
of conduit of connecting us. But you know, these past
couple of months, I've really been transformation on my life
and it started with you, with meeting you and then

(01:24:13):
seeing how it was a lined up that we met
at the gym and being able to be introduced to
a hold of the realm of people and experience. Um,
I think like the most social I tell the story off.
I remember when we went out to what was it
called somethbody to see the got dog at the place
off of Fair Facts. We went to go get something

(01:24:33):
to eat. That's all you gotta say. When we all
went out to dinner, Yeah, oh my god. Yes, And
that's all I want to say, is little Ethiopia. We
don't live. Oh yeah, we didn't go to Ethiopian restaurant,

(01:24:54):
went to Ghana. It was Ghana food. No, No, that
night it was Gonna food. But it's different foods every month.
But anyway, it don't matter. I want to eat on
Fair Facts. I just want to say this part, God
do getting distracted went out to eat. I was just

(01:25:16):
trying to say great hanging out. You said something I
was I was sharing with a friend recently, and I said,
how and life is just so important to have experience.
And the conversation even spewed just starting even with sex
and having sex. And I'm saying, I know I'm going
left to go right. Just check with um, And I said,

(01:25:36):
because I think even as myself, I had was restrained
from having sex because my best friends a guy, and
he would always be like how he pimping on girls
and all this kind of stuff, and I always like,
I never wanted to be that girl. And I felt
like for so long I missed ound the experience of
just experiencing sex and life and seeing what I like
and what I don't like. And I think oftentimes for
so many women, we don't want to see to promiscuous.

(01:26:00):
It's like you need to be out there to know
what you like, that you have something to talk about.
And I thought of you came into conversation because I
went left to go right, and I said, you know,
I was thinking about the time out to dinner, and
I remember the gentleman that sat down at the table,
and UM, I think we were asking, oh, what do
you do. He's like, oh, I don't get out much,
or he said, I don't get out much. I don't
socialize money, and you must have asked like where does

(01:26:21):
he where does he go? And he couldn't name a
spot or a restaurant, and You're like, wow, you know,
kind of like being I don't want to use the
term socially disabled, socially handicap, socially behind, socially awkward. Thank you.
And I think for so long like that could easily
could have been me socially because all I did was work, work, work, work, work, all.
That's all the things, the grind and finding a balance.

(01:26:43):
So you know, within the past couple of months of
like just getting out in balance and it's the most
I've you know, done, so that oh my gosh, You're
just opening up the opportunity to be like, hey, don
let's go to the parlor. And it was like, okay,
I did that night. I was like, do you want
to just come with me? And day I'm DJ here.

(01:27:04):
Then it was at the next spine and so and
you come and support. That's what I love to you support.
I'm gonna be yo we out here. Yeah no, but
I just want to say, and I don't know if
I said it enough. And it's so interesting how you
were the link that connected us, but often times we
don't always talk on the phone all the time. So
this is my moment to say that because I realized

(01:27:25):
how important it is to stay connected, just to say so,
I'm going to check in. So this is me verbally
saying thank you, me letting you know that you made
an impact on my life of when you came in
so far as just me hanging out, meeting a new
group of people embracing my sexuality, and how I show
up creating a safe space with a lot of like
minded people who are like me and who are hoping

(01:27:47):
to share. I never had any community or anything like that,
so um, and I would have never known that. I
would have never have known that I'm learning to share
and before I'm being munerable and ship it. Um. So
thank you for telling me that, and thank you for
being free enough to experience the experiences that you've had

(01:28:10):
through me. And I'm glad that I was able to
just like bring you in and say all right, play hey, play,
just be free, be you because that's beautiful. You know,
anytime that I can like, I feel like that's what
we're here on earth to do. It's to connect people
so we can have beautiful experiences and have more joy
in life, you know. And I'm like, blows my spirit

(01:28:33):
up in a beautiful way that I was able to
help anything in your spirit, you know, and allow you
to be free. That's love, you matter, Thank you, that's
what's up. I love you? Oh man, so um well,
I hope you're feeling inspired. I hope you feeling loved.
I hope you understand how important it is to live
life on purpose and for purpose, and that you open

(01:28:57):
yourself up to meet people like Anton, people out there
that may not have it all figured out right then
and there, but they have themselves figured out. And when
you're decide in yourself that you're gonna show up, that's
when you give yourself the ability to show out. And
then your ability to show out now you give other
people the permission to shine. So let's shine together. And
if you're trying to shine with me, because you might

(01:29:17):
want to be on the podcast, or perhaps you've got
an idea for the podcast, I want to encourage you
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Shoot me an email now. Love you know I say

(01:29:38):
this all the time. When you shoot me an email,
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because if you want to be better and you want
to do better, what do I say? You gotta be
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It's just me loving on you. So shoot me the

(01:30:00):
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(01:30:47):
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(01:31:08):
possible and knowing that I'm possible, and deciding to do
this journey with me so that it can become possible.
I see you, and I appreciate you. Well, I'm about
to get out of here. You know, I always say
I'm in the business and making dreams come true, and
I damn sure I ain't gonna forget about mine. So
until next time, always remember you and your greatest aass act,

(01:31:31):
get your right MND right with me, and get excited
about your lives.

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