April 14, 2025 • 32 mins
Vybz Kartel Is Finally Free—New Music, Marriage Plans & Life After Prison + More
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up at the end of way? Yeah, may don't
get ready up. I mean it's really way up right
now because because the world Boss.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We got yeah yeah, I mean yes, yes, oh.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, so many things we got to get into today.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
First off, Brooklyn is coming up. You're going to be
at the Barclays two soul Down shows. It was so
crazy they had to add one.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
They have to add one. They wanted to add a third.
I'm like, nah, we're not going treat.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
They wanted to go three back to back.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Exactly, I'm not doing that. We let's do it back
to back like Jordan ninety six ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know how crazy that is because there's people that
have to like cancel shows, rope off part of the stadium,
but you they actually have to shout out a.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Show for you.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, that's too easy, man. Remember I put the work
in over the years. The catalog is big, the fun
base is big, and the people miss me. I've been there.
In a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Let's talk about Brooklyn Anthem though, because when that goes off,
I'm from flat Bush, he's my best guy. We get
our shoutouts in Brooklyn Anthem. How many times you think
you're gonna do that song.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Several you got sometimes at least five, and that's what
the people say. Make sure you know the song word
for word, from start to finish, and like I wrote
the song, come on, Yeah, but it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Crazy and everybody's pulling up. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I can't even imagine what type I guess I mean
because a lot of artists live out here too.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No, come on, this is New York. Yeah, so a
lot of artists coming. Cardi coming but still coming, you
know what I mean. A lot of people are gonna
pull up.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You did the summer Cardi yet, yes, ma'am. Is it
being debuted or something.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Or yeah, definitely. I don't know when, but it's coming.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It should be at the Barklay very soon.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm not sure if maybe that's too soon.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But we need a snippet or something like a little snippet.
You gotta do that. Yeah, let's go viral.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
My manager has it. If he wants to drop a snippet,
come on, let's get it. Let's go Yeah, way up,
that's it now.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Listen, Oh, Champagne, I'm on a liquid diet.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, I see that, and I also saw what you've
been doing. For the economy, which a rum.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yes, it's crazy, right, the biggest in the Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's a huge.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
That's huge, man, trust me, Man and I had a
rum before I got arrested. I went to prison and
that that did work too.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But this one people are going crazy over this crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm telling you man to make a Rompin shop. I
recommend that for you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, why for me?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Because it got that bigger than it. It's got that
thing for the ladies that that get them going.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, wait, what did you just do?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
As your question? Though, I want to take it back
a little bit, how was it? How was it doing
at time? Though? Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Like, because I did time?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But when I did time, I wasn't never, I wasn't
in the industry.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You was already a huge artist. I was that doing
time like that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean, prisoner is prison man regardless. But you know
what I mean. Just it's Jamaica, so you know. But yeah,
I mean I was in prison, I was rocking the
roll ex lateist Jordan's anything. I could get whatever I want.
I just couldn't leave. So it's kind of different, right,
But it was a dungeon still because it's not like
(03:21):
an American prison. Yeah, you know, I mean we still
didn't have toilets in the cells up to a point.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I remember when that was a big story or some
changes had to.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Be made toilets. Man, you got a shit on newspaper
and wrap that shit up.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because the other problem is also that, you know, aside
from that Graves disease.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, I'm still suffering from it now too. So I've
been through it. Man. But what are you gonna do? Cry? No,
you gotta just pull your parents up and porch man.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So yeah, I remember when that story first broke because
I was, you know, on air and I was talking
about it here and I was like, this is crazy
like that you had to go to jail, but how
was it to be? But when you found out you
were coming home? Because that had to be like I
don't know what's about to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I mean when I found out, like when they said, yeah,
he's free. But my thing is this, I'm from Jamaica.
I'm from the ghetto. Like we don't get excited easily,
Like we got to open the gate and when I
walk out, that's when I know I'm out.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So you gave the time back.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yes, basically, yeah, they gave me the thirty five years
I gave them. Yeah, yeah, trust me. So that's why
I'm here now, you know what I mean. I'm free.
My record is clean, so I don't know that return
because it's overturning, you know what I mean. So I'm all.
I'm blessed. God is the greatest man. He's just doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I see all these dancer artists now finally being able
to get their visas too, And this is a huge
deal because it's nothing like being able to travel, of course,
and tour to connect with people in that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Way, and not just to connect with people, but to
get the money.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, we never forget that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, that's what I'm saying, because that's what you work
for at the end of.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The day, right, you work to collect that bread. So
it's good. Yeah, Bounty killer, you know that's my boss.
He got his visit recently too, so he's back in America,
see everybody, Yeah, he's back in Miami right now, in
this in Florida.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Were you watching the verses in real time?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes? In person?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Of course that was the best verses. I always say
that because that's like the culture favorite of the class.
That is what.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Versus he was doing because I was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That already exactly like Bounty and Beani did it and
did it plus the sound clashes. That was crazy, big
up the Swiss Man. Like the concept is if.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You did that, who would it be?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's right, that would be crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I remember that that was a wild time.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Wild man work. Looking back in hindsight, it was good
for the music, for the culture and pushed us both
as artists as individuals, and it spread the genre further
to places like Africa. Like so it was. It was
good for the culture.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I think it's kind of like hip hop too. The
beef is good for the It's good because it does creak, like.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly, you got to go deep. So the art
improves right right because it's competitive.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Even Spice.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Spice just put out of this record, you know, but
it actually is doing really well.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Everybody that's the queen like Spice going.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Every time I see her, I always think about you.
When I see Spice. I'm always like I do every
time you'll see it. Whenever I interviewed her, I always
would be like, how's bad you spoke to us? Because
I know you guys, even while you was locked up
doing music together, and you guys were like that, and
she always would shout you out rocking shot. When I
first started on the Breakfast Club, when I first started here,
(06:45):
that song was in such heavy rotation.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That was a huge son.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You actually said it when you were talking about me
years ago, when when you were doing the Breakfast Club.
I was watching it from prison, and you were saying
the same thing, like wh came out?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That was my song?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I remember that specific.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I could be going back in the very beginning
of it. I was like, oh, you probably can't say that,
and I was.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like, what are they really saying, Like she's saying, like.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Right, yeah, real place.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yes, it's a real place, real places. You guys, don't
call it me like a motel or something. Yeah, yeah,
yeah exactly. We're playing Yeah, you're playing there. Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now listen, we got to talk about everything else going
on to like this wedding definitely okay, because it's been
pushed back, Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It should have been February thirty first, exactly, just because
I'm busy. I'm all over the place. But she's here
with me. Okay, Yeah, she's in the hotel, right, No,
I don't leave her she's my good luck shot.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's great. Even the host, how y'all got together? A
lot of things that happened in your life. Is just like,
so I.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Think you giving destiny.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's giving destiny because people were a little I think
people are protective over you. So at first people will
get me apprehensive about somebody because they didn't know her.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, they went in on her. Yeah, they said she
was fed, she was c I a she was a
fucking man.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh my god, what okay.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, that's that was the last one. Like you said
she was a man, Like, it's crazy. No, we haven't
because she has a big family. I have a big family,
so we have the planet. We wanted to do it
on Valentine's Day, you know, and honesty, but we didn't
know that I was going to get the visa so
quickly and things that are going to escalate like that
because I'm all over the place now.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, so that's we got to get into that. He
was like, I gotta talk to Vibes because man is
getting married.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
He don't have a bride, but he said a date already,
but he don't know to who.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I'm just putting looking for someone.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm getting the ring, I'm getting everything. I'm just setting
it up.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Manifested the wedding set, that is that the cake.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, I want to get a couple of gos. But
I just got to find a bride.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's I don't believe that. He just went yeah, No,
you should be to put it out there because for
years I've been saying I want to settle down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I got what I gotta take steps.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
To do it true, create the problem and then solve it.
So that's what you did. That's what men.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Shouldn't you find a wife first and then plan a
leading No.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
That's that's that's come on, focus on you get me focused. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I want to ask you this because Fever is your
biggest song, but ramping Shop to me is what if
you have to say what's bigger Fever or ramping Shop?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
What would you say in that argument? As a Crussover song, I.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Would say it depends because remember certain places you're go
into the world.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Clarks is my biggest Clarks pop can.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Certain places go with summer time.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Right, summertime is my joint. When I go running in
the park, that's my little running.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Places you go.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They have their own and I went to Africa. Uh
Ma mayon box the Swiss was my biggest song in Nigeria, okay,
you know, and if you go to South Africa, it's
probably something else. Yeah, but those are the top contenders,
like you said them, the Summer Time, the Fever, the Clerks.
(10:35):
But so I wouldn't choose one because it depends.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Did Clarks do a deal with you for that song
back then or they wasn't.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I mean, remember when we did that song, we wasn't
looking for a d We were just singing about how
we live. But then it became exactly then it became
big and I went to prisoner, so I didn't get
to capitalize, okay, but to some extent Popcorn did so
when I came out, they haven't spoken to me yet.
Want just go Louis all the way now. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
When I used to work for Wu Tang, they were
real big on the Clarks. They ended up doing a deal.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah. They love the Wallabies especially. They love is a
classic culture, like like Jamaican culture, like fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, I think about even not even just Wallabies, but.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Those other clocks. Yeah, the desert, that's the like. I
just thought about that and think about like you know,
in flat Bush and Crown Heights back in the days
everybody had clocks. It's crazy, man, Jamaica will be different. Man.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Now you also added Miami. That's that show is going
to go.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Up to easy. That's that's so loud already, man, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But coming home, the first stop was of course Vagina. Okay, yeah, Vagina.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Understand each other exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And I know you didn't last long.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
No fistball probably that was that maybe, oh.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Ship, sorry, it gets better, but.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's been a long time, a long time. Should have
left you.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's great though to see because you know what, you
might never have fallen in love the way that you
did having those conversations, you know, while you were locked up,
because that's it is about before.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh okay, yeah, okay on but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
A different type of like when you get to have
conversations before you get to see each other and yeah,
different type of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So me and her is like real friends, yeah right
right before anything else, we were friends, Like I said,
we spoke for four years before it was like visit
me right then she came to visit, like she went
back and then I was like, you know what, I'm
coming out, come to Jamaica, come live, and I just
flew her in.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The wedding's in Jamaica too, right, it will be in Jamaica.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, we wanted to do it in England. But she
has a big family. A lot of them are in Turkey.
I have a big family in Jamaica. So it's just
a time. And like I said, we didn't know I
was going to get the visa so quick and I'm
all over the place.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
They didn't play with you.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Exactly, so they just gave it to you. Yeah, very easy, man.
So because like I said, once I came out, I
came out different. I came out positive. I came out
preaching love forgiveness, come on, determination. My story is an
amazing one.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It is. It's a movie, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So there was like, man, will full failure destiny or whatever,
And I appreciate that and I'm not doing anything to
mess that up. Yeah, but definitely this year won't pass
as long as I have breath. We're getting married this year.
And like I said, she's here.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So I don't leave her out now.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I know you always talk about Ninja, man, is one
of your first inspirations, and I see he has an
appeal as well, so we're keeping our fingers crushed.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I think he's going to win it too.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
How much, son, that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
He got like twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
How much time he's been in he's.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Been in for a minute that at least six seven years.
It's been a while.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be wild. Have you been talking
to him?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah? We were at the same prison twice. We were
at the same prison twice. So with the prison that
I left from when I got released, I left him there.
Evardo's son was there. He came out too. Vardo's son
was in prison too, or murder, but he came out.
He got he won his appeal.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, it kind of makes you think because I
see people questioning what's going on in Jamaica when it
comes to like that whole system.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Oh well, you know, man, that's a third world country.
You need not say more. Come on, man, I love Jamaica,
but come on, the truth is the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Does it make you feel like you got because I
know prison reform and I know Maya you're big on that.
You've been going back to Rikers, you know, talking figuring
out how to be how to be more involved in
that because you have to deal with it. And I
know you left behind a lot of people, people that
was looking out for you you was recording your music,
and I'm still.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Looking out for them, trust me, man. So that's why
when he said they know what's doing the prison thing
like that, you know because a lot of people in
there that are good people that that just made me
dumb mistakes, right, It made mistakes early exactly, and they
made mistakes at an age and time where you know,
based on the environment.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So you can't hold the crime to me.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is like when you take a sixteen year old kid
and that made a mistake and stretch them out pause
for twenty thirty years, taking his whole life.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's fine, Like, come on.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You could have been a lawyer, you know what I mean? Like,
I believe in forgiveness. The system says it in church,
but they don't appreciate on Mondays, right, say that it
sounds good on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah No, I feel yeah, yeah man.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It's deep by Man Ninja Man free than Gogan, real
bad man.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Also, I want to talk to you about the major
laser song Panda Floor that was also that was right
before you ended up having it.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I like that song and the video.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The video sick crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Right, Yeah, that was real, real creative. That was dope
to see you on that too. And they named that
as like one of the biggest dance songs.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I think it's in some billboard.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, the billboard named it as like one of the
biggest dance songs ever.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That's crazy, big up the board, big major laser man.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And you're also going to be doing videos for all
of these songs.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's not all, but a lot of them, but the
classics because I wasn't even in Fever, so I got
to do a video for Fever.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You have to do it, Yeah, all the classics.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yes, maybe that you doesn't. I couldn't. Was in prison
and definitely know you have a ton of footage, Yes,
I do from prison.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
No, just oh you have footage in prison.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Too, footage from doing crazy Ship in prison line. Yeah.
Because now you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Can go that's the old it's.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Content, yeah, you know, I mean the game it's different.
You can go back and do the old stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Like right, sorry, TikTok loves because a lot of the
girls like the Cartel songs. When those songs came out,
he wasn't they wasn't even.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, and it's a great way to monetize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Something like that go viral.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Today they're still discovering old stuff right exactly right now? Yeah, man, man,
they still do.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Are your kids big on? TikTok to? I know to
your sons are artists?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You got look of vibes and look oh.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know that? Yes, And so my sons y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well no, because I know you're big on and I've
seen you know them out and about.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But I also see.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That you're with me too, okay. And I tell you
everybody went shopping. That had to be a great feeling
as a dad to come home and be like, let's
run it up.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah I did. I brought even my other son, he's
from Flatbush, she was born here. I know that's right, Yeah,
sonim roll the other day and to the Louis. You
know that's my favorite brand.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And we see they need to do something with you
ship Louis. You hear that, he said, ship? Ye, I
can see that happening.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
See there you go, and it looked good on you.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know what else.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It seems like you are excited doing interviews and you've
been doing a lot. But what But I love that
because sometimes people come they know they got to promote.
You don't even got to promote Shi's been sold out.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, but the interviews is good, manute. Remember we're from
the old school interviews is. I love interviews. I love
chopping it up with the holst and we promote what
we're promoting the people who the vibe and it's good.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
There's a reason people call you the teacher and that
they've dubbed you that I could see you like teacher
for real, like doing classes. And you're always big on
also helping out up and coming artists because I think
a lot of the artists who the first time you know,
they did a big song is with you.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, that's true. We have to remember Bounty Lay gave
me my break in the music industry. And I don't
know him from nowhere.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I just so he took a liking to you.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Exactly, and he took a chance so we do the same.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
He was already huge.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, he was the that's.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The dye anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, man, Bounty is like pool parking. Look into
one kind of Yeah, yeah, that's the man.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I remember you said he gave you like ten grand
at first.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
First ten thousand dollars I ever gotesh Yeah, and he
gave me to start tak phones. And because I met
him as a writer, right so I used to write
joints for him and stuff and yeah, want to get
is a real g man?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Did you write for other people too?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah? I wrote for a lot of people. All the
girls in my crew, I wrote for them to Gods
are Slim while they were the she but even do
you name it? Man? The popcorn the popcorn part of
the clock song. Yeah, I'm a good writer, is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's what we hear it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Where's the ol gs that like super Cat and like
shavo Oh geez.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think funny you mentioned that. I think they both
live in New York? Really yeaheah right TJ. I think
they both. Yeah, yeah, man, but those are legends, you said,
the real g Manyeah yeah, super Cat, super you know
Shallow was for the Lady right watch God? Yeah? Yeah,
(20:48):
nothing but hits yeah man, one of the first Grammys. Yeah,
let's not he put on though, like he really put on.
He did it he was over here doing like big Song.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
And super Cats with the heavy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hot Yeah, that's not for that's the first time that. Yeah,
you know history right here.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You know you know, man, trust me. The connection is.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Real man, and it feels good.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Also even with you, I feel like you also have
great relationships with women. And I know people could be
critical of of dance talk because it is nasty, but
that's also why.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
We like it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It's very sexual man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And I love that for it. I don't want it
to be you know.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Why would I wanted to change? You want something commercials
afro beats, that's my stupid. You want to get down
and call me in spice, nigga?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
What do you say to the younger artists because like
you said, listen that you know the guys that versus
Gully that was wild time. And so for the younger
artists now coming up, and if they're like taking shots
at each other, because I feel like with social media now,
things do get elevated quickly and the fans definitely play
a part in that. So from somebody who has come
from that, But like you said, it's also produced some
(22:15):
great music.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, it does at the time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What do you say to the artists.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Today though, when it comes to going at each other
having an issue to be there at a beefing.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I mean I can't speak to that as it relates
to hip hop, but as it relates a dancea on
not a lot of beefing is taking place now because
of social media, because remember back in our time, we
have to do it physically. I have to run upon
you on stage, you know what I mean. So now
I guess, like Drake said, trigger finger turned to Twitter fingers,
as it relates to Jamaica culture, you know what I mean.
(22:45):
So yeah, not much clashing taking place in Jamaica. But
the kids are doing amazing work man, and I like them.
I like them.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Line, who do you like?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I like you?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, who do you like?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Chronic Club? I mean Jamal, He's doing good in Jamaica,
dun Swan, Pablo, I G. You know my sons as well, Yeah,
Chronic Class, Skilly Bang, Oh yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You know it's I just have Valiant up here.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Valiant as well. He's bad.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The girls love him, yeah, they did love him Room,
but you know that room but so oh yeah, they listen,
may not like him because he had a song about polygamy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, it's crazy flaming.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It again, Polly, Yeah, yeah, friend like, but he's doing
big things the kids that the kids are on fire man, like,
just get Maley done too. I saw him.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Recently Ael for real Yeah, and they were crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, he's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Shout out to my girl Chelsea who always she helps
get everybody for you day.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I know she's in Jamaica right now. She wanted to
be here.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I don't know Chelsea's Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and she's not Chelsea not Jamaican. She's always in Jamaica.
She's what she's Guyanese.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh oh yeah, we love Guyana.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
She's always in Jamaica though.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and I'm always in Guyana. He really left there.
We launched the rum, the straight Drum sold out in
like two days.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Guyana's got some nice new resorts too, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, they're doing they're doing real well man. You know
since they found the oil the money.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh yeah, they're not playing and.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like the investors are pouring in. I was literally there
the other day. Like they're building new highways, new hotels,
like they're popping up all over the place. So shout
out to the Prime Minister. I met him, to the president,
the PM. We actually went to his house. He cooked
some food, We had a vibe. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Now, besides Vagina, what did you come home to when throat's.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
My god like?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And I hope you reciprocated. No, I didn't come on
this old school.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'm forty nine. I'm not acting a our old school.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't want to get him in trouble, I know,
but I know he's he's done. He's doing it.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
First. Hold on, that's crazy. I don't remember who.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You had on the show, Champaul.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
No, no, it was a woman answered the question about
Jamaican man and eating pussy and they all do it. No, no, no,
they know, but this is the person was like, yeah,
they do it. And I'm like, oh, that's crazy. We're like,
did you actually fun three million Jamaican men?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So you've got to do.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
You have to care for what you say. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you do it, you do it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You like, it's kind of like ratings. You know, if
if ten people did it, that means you'll all do it,
because then it just makes.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Another dominently that's been a thing like that man they
said that Jamaican men don't do that and.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We should down either.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Who stopping.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And I'm than you not down.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Trying to sell.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right, You gotta be careful, I'm very careful, said yeah,
no comment.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah someone I heard.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
If you get some of this straight vibe um though,
then you would like for the I mean, and then
you can blame it on the run you watch up.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Sleeping. Yeah, but I mean, it is what it is,
what it is, what it is. But the culture is
a culture. It's like hip hop is African American. That
doesn't mean every single African American listens to hip you
know what I mean. It's like it's like going to
the beach. You have a glass, you dip it in
the water at the beach, right at the beach, and
(26:49):
you're like, look, I told you there are no sharks
in the sea. That's that small sample. So no, I can't.
I'm not gonna say. You have to stick to the culture. Man, Jerma,
do not eat and we don't cheat.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, Well now he's definitely lying.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, if they.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Cheated, but not not not me.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Not. I'm a one burner. You know what the one
burner is. You know what the one burner is one flame, yes,
this one flame. But you used to cheat a lot,
a lot and twice on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And you guys to right end up. You think that
comes with age. Somebody tell me.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
No, maturity has nothing to do with age, in fact nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And you kind of you're so busy you can't. You
don't even have time to really cheat.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Always time to cheat if you want to cheat, if
you want you want to.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
What's the words? You got caught cheating? Because I know when.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I got stopped by my man, she caught me with
a girl.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And stabbed you.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, because I was trying to like chilling, she stabbed me,
but I didn't know I got stabbed. Yeah. It was
my friend who told me that, Sean Salm and it
was in prison together. That's my bro, and he told
me I got stabbed. Then I looked down, I saw it.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That was like, yeah, where were you cheating in your
house that you shared with her? That's disrespectful. It was
my house, right, it was my house when you together.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
No, it was my house. I bought it. It was
my house. But since you wanted to get technical, she
lived there, yes, all right, so that was messed up.
But don't. Yeah, I'm messed up.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, okay, so you got I got stabbed. Did that
scare you straight? Did you stay with her after she
stabbed you? Yes, okay, why.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Would I leave? I love her more when she did, right,
I did. But she had to come nurse after help
and then you still, she had to come nurse me
back to hell.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I stab you for cheating, and then I nurse you
back to her, nurse.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Me back to cheat again.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
The toxicity, right, I love Toxicity though one of my
favorite cities, but toxic city.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I visited that place so many times I've been.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That's probably like one of my places vis.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Have you ever caught a woman cheating on you one time?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yes, before my before shorty, I had a girl up.
Her name was Stania too, Okay, yeah, I called her
kissing this guy you walked. It's not just not just
the kids, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You gotta watch her.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He wasn't it nothing, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Listen, kiss leaves that anyways, Come on to come on,
stop this.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Ship, Come on and what you do you mean what
I did?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Because I fucked him up? Okay, at the time, I
was a different person. Yes, that was way back in
the nineties.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, you had a life, boy.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Let me tell you, I live, man, several lifetimes in
one human form. Man.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But this life is about to be the best. And
I'm happy for you for that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, coming home, and I want to say, while
you was locked up, you did a lot more work
than people who had a lot more success than people
who were home, which is wild.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I so gold from prison. That's so silver from
prison I got for the Grammys of the prison album.
That's I put that work in, man. That's why I'm
not surprised when I'm reaping the rewards and the benefits. Plus,
I believe in God and I put everything in his
hands and I work hard, so I deserve it. As
long as I'm alive, I'm gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yes, you know I'm dead. You'd be good because the
kids would be.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Good, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's giving Bob Marley and.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
All your kids come together. I saw the video, Like
your kids get to hang out.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
They all yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
They all know each other.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The moms are still like you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, they are still like you. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
They love me. I don't got no problem.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are they invited to the wedding.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Okay around and what they have they say at the
wedding speak now or.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Four voices like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
All right, well listen, you gotta go because you want
to Yeah, that's they wrapping you up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You want to tes my publishists motion, Yeah you got
but listen.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so happy you came to see me.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I was like, even before you came to New York,
everybody was like, Vibe is going to come to your show.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's is going to come to your show. And I'm like,
we got to figure this out.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
This show to your questions are different.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh yeah, because yeah you've been doing that business. I
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah yeah, well now well now we really know each other.
So next time it's going to be even more intense.
You're not wait for that. Well, thank you so much,
Vibes car. This is everything I dreamed it would be.
So I appreciate you for coming through you are you
a good time?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Thank you very much. I'm the Vie.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You are the Vibes for sure, the Viking.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Oh my god, all right out
What's up at the end of way? Yeah, may don't
get ready up. I mean it's really way up right
now because because the world Boss.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We got yeah yeah, I mean yes, yes, oh.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, so many things we got to get into today.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
First off, Brooklyn is coming up. You're going to be
at the Barclays two soul Down shows. It was so
crazy they had to add one.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
They have to add one. They wanted to add a third.
I'm like, nah, we're not going treat.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
They wanted to go three back to back.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Exactly, I'm not doing that. We let's do it back
to back like Jordan ninety six ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know how crazy that is because there's people that
have to like cancel shows, rope off part of the stadium,
but you they actually have to shout out a.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Show for you.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, that's too easy, man. Remember I put the work
in over the years. The catalog is big, the fun
base is big, and the people miss me. I've been there.
In a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Let's talk about Brooklyn Anthem though, because when that goes off,
I'm from flat Bush, he's my best guy. We get
our shoutouts in Brooklyn Anthem. How many times you think
you're gonna do that song.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Several you got sometimes at least five, and that's what
the people say. Make sure you know the song word
for word, from start to finish, and like I wrote
the song, come on, Yeah, but it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Crazy and everybody's pulling up. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I can't even imagine what type I guess I mean
because a lot of artists live out here too.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No, come on, this is New York. Yeah, so a
lot of artists coming. Cardi coming but still coming, you
know what I mean. A lot of people are gonna
pull up.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You did the summer Cardi yet, yes, ma'am. Is it
being debuted or something.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Or yeah, definitely. I don't know when, but it's coming.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It should be at the Barklay very soon.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm not sure if maybe that's too soon.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But we need a snippet or something like a little snippet.
You gotta do that. Yeah, let's go viral.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
My manager has it. If he wants to drop a snippet,
come on, let's get it. Let's go Yeah, way up,
that's it now.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Listen, Oh, Champagne, I'm on a liquid diet.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, I see that, and I also saw what you've
been doing. For the economy, which a rum.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yes, it's crazy, right, the biggest in the Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's a huge.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
That's huge, man, trust me, Man and I had a
rum before I got arrested. I went to prison and
that that did work too.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But this one people are going crazy over this crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm telling you man to make a Rompin shop. I
recommend that for you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, why for me?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Because it got that bigger than it. It's got that
thing for the ladies that that get them going.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, wait, what did you just do?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
As your question? Though, I want to take it back
a little bit, how was it? How was it doing
at time? Though? Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Like, because I did time?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But when I did time, I wasn't never, I wasn't
in the industry.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You was already a huge artist. I was that doing
time like that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean, prisoner is prison man regardless. But you know
what I mean. Just it's Jamaica, so you know. But yeah,
I mean I was in prison, I was rocking the
roll ex lateist Jordan's anything. I could get whatever I want.
I just couldn't leave. So it's kind of different, right,
But it was a dungeon still because it's not like
(03:21):
an American prison. Yeah, you know, I mean we still
didn't have toilets in the cells up to a point.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I remember when that was a big story or some
changes had to.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Be made toilets. Man, you got a shit on newspaper
and wrap that shit up.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because the other problem is also that, you know, aside
from that Graves disease.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, I'm still suffering from it now too. So I've
been through it. Man. But what are you gonna do? Cry? No,
you gotta just pull your parents up and porch man.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So yeah, I remember when that story first broke because
I was, you know, on air and I was talking
about it here and I was like, this is crazy
like that you had to go to jail, but how
was it to be? But when you found out you
were coming home? Because that had to be like I
don't know what's about to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I mean when I found out, like when they said, yeah,
he's free. But my thing is this, I'm from Jamaica.
I'm from the ghetto. Like we don't get excited easily,
Like we got to open the gate and when I
walk out, that's when I know I'm out.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So you gave the time back.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yes, basically, yeah, they gave me the thirty five years
I gave them. Yeah, yeah, trust me. So that's why
I'm here now, you know what I mean. I'm free.
My record is clean, so I don't know that return
because it's overturning, you know what I mean. So I'm all.
I'm blessed. God is the greatest man. He's just doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I see all these dancer artists now finally being able
to get their visas too, And this is a huge
deal because it's nothing like being able to travel, of course,
and tour to connect with people in that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Way, and not just to connect with people, but to
get the money.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, we never forget that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, that's what I'm saying, because that's what you work
for at the end of.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The day, right, you work to collect that bread. So
it's good. Yeah, Bounty killer, you know that's my boss.
He got his visit recently too, so he's back in America,
see everybody, Yeah, he's back in Miami right now, in
this in Florida.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Were you watching the verses in real time?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes? In person?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Of course that was the best verses. I always say
that because that's like the culture favorite of the class.
That is what.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Versus he was doing because I was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That already exactly like Bounty and Beani did it and
did it plus the sound clashes. That was crazy, big
up the Swiss Man. Like the concept is if.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You did that, who would it be?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's right, that would be crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I remember that that was a wild time.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Wild man work. Looking back in hindsight, it was good
for the music, for the culture and pushed us both
as artists as individuals, and it spread the genre further
to places like Africa. Like so it was. It was
good for the culture.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I think it's kind of like hip hop too. The
beef is good for the It's good because it does creak, like.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly, you got to go deep. So the art
improves right right because it's competitive.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Even Spice.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Spice just put out of this record, you know, but
it actually is doing really well.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Everybody that's the queen like Spice going.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Every time I see her, I always think about you.
When I see Spice. I'm always like I do every
time you'll see it. Whenever I interviewed her, I always
would be like, how's bad you spoke to us? Because
I know you guys, even while you was locked up
doing music together, and you guys were like that, and
she always would shout you out rocking shot. When I
first started on the Breakfast Club, when I first started here,
(06:45):
that song was in such heavy rotation.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That was a huge son.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You actually said it when you were talking about me
years ago, when when you were doing the Breakfast Club.
I was watching it from prison, and you were saying
the same thing, like wh came out?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That was my song?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I remember that specific.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I could be going back in the very beginning
of it. I was like, oh, you probably can't say that,
and I was.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Like, what are they really saying, Like she's saying, like.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Right, yeah, real place.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yes, it's a real place, real places. You guys, don't
call it me like a motel or something. Yeah, yeah,
yeah exactly. We're playing Yeah, you're playing there. Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now listen, we got to talk about everything else going
on to like this wedding definitely okay, because it's been
pushed back, Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
It should have been February thirty first, exactly, just because
I'm busy. I'm all over the place. But she's here
with me. Okay, Yeah, she's in the hotel, right, No,
I don't leave her she's my good luck shot.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's great. Even the host, how y'all got together? A
lot of things that happened in your life. Is just like,
so I.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Think you giving destiny.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's giving destiny because people were a little I think
people are protective over you. So at first people will
get me apprehensive about somebody because they didn't know her.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, they went in on her. Yeah, they said she
was fed, she was c I a she was a
fucking man.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh my god, what okay.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, that's that was the last one. Like you said
she was a man, Like, it's crazy. No, we haven't
because she has a big family. I have a big family,
so we have the planet. We wanted to do it
on Valentine's Day, you know, and honesty, but we didn't
know that I was going to get the visa so
quickly and things that are going to escalate like that
because I'm all over the place now.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, so that's we got to get into that. He
was like, I gotta talk to Vibes because man is
getting married.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
He don't have a bride, but he said a date already,
but he don't know to who.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I'm just putting looking for someone.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm getting the ring, I'm getting everything. I'm just setting
it up.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Manifested the wedding set, that is that the cake.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, I want to get a couple of gos. But
I just got to find a bride.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's I don't believe that. He just went yeah, No,
you should be to put it out there because for
years I've been saying I want to settle down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I got what I gotta take steps.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
To do it true, create the problem and then solve it.
So that's what you did. That's what men.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Shouldn't you find a wife first and then plan a
leading No.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
That's that's that's come on, focus on you get me focused. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I want to ask you this because Fever is your
biggest song, but ramping Shop to me is what if
you have to say what's bigger Fever or ramping Shop?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
What would you say in that argument? As a Crussover song, I.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Would say it depends because remember certain places you're go
into the world.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Clarks is my biggest Clarks pop can.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Certain places go with summer time.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Right, summertime is my joint. When I go running in
the park, that's my little running.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Places you go.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They have their own and I went to Africa. Uh
Ma mayon box the Swiss was my biggest song in Nigeria, okay,
you know, and if you go to South Africa, it's
probably something else. Yeah, but those are the top contenders,
like you said them, the Summer Time, the Fever, the Clerks.
(10:35):
But so I wouldn't choose one because it depends.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Did Clarks do a deal with you for that song
back then or they wasn't.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I mean, remember when we did that song, we wasn't
looking for a d We were just singing about how
we live. But then it became exactly then it became
big and I went to prisoner, so I didn't get
to capitalize, okay, but to some extent Popcorn did so
when I came out, they haven't spoken to me yet.
Want just go Louis all the way now. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
When I used to work for Wu Tang, they were
real big on the Clarks. They ended up doing a deal.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah. They love the Wallabies especially. They love is a
classic culture, like like Jamaican culture, like fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, I think about even not even just Wallabies, but.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Those other clocks. Yeah, the desert, that's the like. I
just thought about that and think about like you know,
in flat Bush and Crown Heights back in the days
everybody had clocks. It's crazy, man, Jamaica will be different. Man.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Now you also added Miami. That's that show is going
to go.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Up to easy. That's that's so loud already, man, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But coming home, the first stop was of course Vagina. Okay, yeah, Vagina.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Understand each other exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
And I know you didn't last long.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
No fistball probably that was that maybe, oh.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Ship, sorry, it gets better, but.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's been a long time, a long time. Should have
left you.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's great though to see because you know what, you
might never have fallen in love the way that you
did having those conversations, you know, while you were locked up,
because that's it is about before.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh okay, yeah, okay on but it's.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
A different type of like when you get to have
conversations before you get to see each other and yeah,
different type of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So me and her is like real friends, yeah right
right before anything else, we were friends, Like I said,
we spoke for four years before it was like visit
me right then she came to visit, like she went
back and then I was like, you know what, I'm
coming out, come to Jamaica, come live, and I just
flew her in.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The wedding's in Jamaica too, right, it will be in Jamaica.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, we wanted to do it in England. But she
has a big family. A lot of them are in Turkey.
I have a big family in Jamaica. So it's just
a time. And like I said, we didn't know I
was going to get the visa so quick and I'm
all over the place.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
They didn't play with you.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Exactly, so they just gave it to you. Yeah, very easy, man.
So because like I said, once I came out, I
came out different. I came out positive. I came out
preaching love forgiveness, come on, determination. My story is an
amazing one.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It is. It's a movie, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So there was like, man, will full failure destiny or whatever,
And I appreciate that and I'm not doing anything to
mess that up. Yeah, but definitely this year won't pass
as long as I have breath. We're getting married this year.
And like I said, she's here.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So I don't leave her out now.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I know you always talk about Ninja, man, is one
of your first inspirations, and I see he has an
appeal as well, so we're keeping our fingers crushed.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I think he's going to win it too.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
How much, son, that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
He got like twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
How much time he's been in he's.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Been in for a minute that at least six seven years.
It's been a while.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be wild. Have you been talking
to him?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah? We were at the same prison twice. We were
at the same prison twice. So with the prison that
I left from when I got released, I left him there.
Evardo's son was there. He came out too. Vardo's son
was in prison too, or murder, but he came out.
He got he won his appeal.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, it kind of makes you think because I
see people questioning what's going on in Jamaica when it
comes to like that whole system.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Oh well, you know, man, that's a third world country.
You need not say more. Come on, man, I love Jamaica,
but come on, the truth is the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Does it make you feel like you got because I
know prison reform and I know Maya you're big on that.
You've been going back to Rikers, you know, talking figuring
out how to be how to be more involved in
that because you have to deal with it. And I
know you left behind a lot of people, people that
was looking out for you you was recording your music,
and I'm still.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Looking out for them, trust me, man. So that's why
when he said they know what's doing the prison thing
like that, you know because a lot of people in
there that are good people that that just made me
dumb mistakes, right, It made mistakes early exactly, and they
made mistakes at an age and time where you know,
based on the environment.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So you can't hold the crime to me.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is like when you take a sixteen year old kid
and that made a mistake and stretch them out pause
for twenty thirty years, taking his whole life.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's fine, Like, come on.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You could have been a lawyer, you know what I mean? Like,
I believe in forgiveness. The system says it in church,
but they don't appreciate on Mondays, right, say that it
sounds good on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah No, I feel yeah, yeah man.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It's deep by Man Ninja Man free than Gogan, real
bad man.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Also, I want to talk to you about the major
laser song Panda Floor that was also that was right
before you ended up having it.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I like that song and the video.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The video sick crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Right, Yeah, that was real, real creative. That was dope
to see you on that too. And they named that
as like one of the biggest dance songs.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I think it's in some billboard.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, the billboard named it as like one of the
biggest dance songs ever.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That's crazy, big up the board, big major laser man.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And you're also going to be doing videos for all
of these songs.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's not all, but a lot of them, but the
classics because I wasn't even in Fever, so I got
to do a video for Fever.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You have to do it, Yeah, all the classics.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yes, maybe that you doesn't. I couldn't. Was in prison
and definitely know you have a ton of footage, Yes,
I do from prison.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
No, just oh you have footage in prison.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Too, footage from doing crazy Ship in prison line. Yeah.
Because now you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Can go that's the old it's.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Content, yeah, you know, I mean the game it's different.
You can go back and do the old stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Like right, sorry, TikTok loves because a lot of the
girls like the Cartel songs. When those songs came out,
he wasn't they wasn't even.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, and it's a great way to monetize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Something like that go viral.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Today they're still discovering old stuff right exactly right now? Yeah, man, man,
they still do.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Are your kids big on? TikTok to? I know to
your sons are artists?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You got look of vibes and look oh.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know that? Yes, And so my sons y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well no, because I know you're big on and I've
seen you know them out and about.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But I also see.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That you're with me too, okay. And I tell you
everybody went shopping. That had to be a great feeling
as a dad to come home and be like, let's
run it up.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah I did. I brought even my other son, he's
from Flatbush, she was born here. I know that's right, Yeah,
sonim roll the other day and to the Louis. You
know that's my favorite brand.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And we see they need to do something with you
ship Louis. You hear that, he said, ship? Ye, I
can see that happening.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
See there you go, and it looked good on you.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know what else.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It seems like you are excited doing interviews and you've
been doing a lot. But what But I love that
because sometimes people come they know they got to promote.
You don't even got to promote Shi's been sold out.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, but the interviews is good, manute. Remember we're from
the old school interviews is. I love interviews. I love
chopping it up with the holst and we promote what
we're promoting the people who the vibe and it's good.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
There's a reason people call you the teacher and that
they've dubbed you that I could see you like teacher
for real, like doing classes. And you're always big on
also helping out up and coming artists because I think
a lot of the artists who the first time you know,
they did a big song is with you.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, that's true. We have to remember Bounty Lay gave
me my break in the music industry. And I don't
know him from nowhere.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I just so he took a liking to you.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Exactly, and he took a chance so we do the same.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
He was already huge.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, he was the that's.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
The dye anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, man, Bounty is like pool parking. Look into
one kind of Yeah, yeah, that's the man.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I remember you said he gave you like ten grand
at first.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
First ten thousand dollars I ever gotesh Yeah, and he
gave me to start tak phones. And because I met
him as a writer, right so I used to write
joints for him and stuff and yeah, want to get
is a real g man?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Did you write for other people too?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah? I wrote for a lot of people. All the
girls in my crew, I wrote for them to Gods
are Slim while they were the she but even do
you name it? Man? The popcorn the popcorn part of
the clock song. Yeah, I'm a good writer, is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's what we hear it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Where's the ol gs that like super Cat and like
shavo Oh geez.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think funny you mentioned that. I think they both
live in New York? Really yeaheah right TJ. I think
they both. Yeah, yeah, man, but those are legends, you said,
the real g Manyeah yeah, super Cat, super you know
Shallow was for the Lady right watch God? Yeah? Yeah,
(20:48):
nothing but hits yeah man, one of the first Grammys. Yeah,
let's not he put on though, like he really put on.
He did it he was over here doing like big Song.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
And super Cats with the heavy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hot Yeah, that's not for that's the first time that. Yeah,
you know history right here.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You know you know, man, trust me. The connection is.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Real man, and it feels good.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Also even with you, I feel like you also have
great relationships with women. And I know people could be
critical of of dance talk because it is nasty, but
that's also why.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
We like it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It's very sexual man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And I love that for it. I don't want it
to be you know.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Why would I wanted to change? You want something commercials
afro beats, that's my stupid. You want to get down
and call me in spice, nigga?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
What do you say to the younger artists because like
you said, listen that you know the guys that versus
Gully that was wild time. And so for the younger
artists now coming up, and if they're like taking shots
at each other, because I feel like with social media now,
things do get elevated quickly and the fans definitely play
a part in that. So from somebody who has come
from that, But like you said, it's also produced some
(22:15):
great music.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, it does at the time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What do you say to the artists.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Today though, when it comes to going at each other
having an issue to be there at a beefing.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I mean I can't speak to that as it relates
to hip hop, but as it relates a dancea on
not a lot of beefing is taking place now because
of social media, because remember back in our time, we
have to do it physically. I have to run upon
you on stage, you know what I mean. So now
I guess, like Drake said, trigger finger turned to Twitter fingers,
as it relates to Jamaica culture, you know what I mean.
(22:45):
So yeah, not much clashing taking place in Jamaica. But
the kids are doing amazing work man, and I like them.
I like them.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Line, who do you like?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I like you?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, who do you like?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Chronic Club? I mean Jamal, He's doing good in Jamaica,
dun Swan, Pablo, I G. You know my sons as well, Yeah,
Chronic Class, Skilly Bang, Oh yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You know it's I just have Valiant up here.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Valiant as well. He's bad.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The girls love him, yeah, they did love him Room,
but you know that room but so oh yeah, they listen,
may not like him because he had a song about polygamy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, it's crazy flaming.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It again, Polly, Yeah, yeah, friend like, but he's doing
big things the kids that the kids are on fire man, like,
just get Maley done too. I saw him.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Recently Ael for real Yeah, and they were crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, he's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Shout out to my girl Chelsea who always she helps
get everybody for you day.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I know she's in Jamaica right now. She wanted to
be here.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I don't know Chelsea's Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and she's not Chelsea not Jamaican. She's always in Jamaica.
She's what she's Guyanese.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh oh yeah, we love Guyana.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
She's always in Jamaica though.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and I'm always in Guyana. He really left there.
We launched the rum, the straight Drum sold out in
like two days.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Guyana's got some nice new resorts too, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, they're doing they're doing real well man. You know
since they found the oil the money.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh yeah, they're not playing and.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like the investors are pouring in. I was literally there
the other day. Like they're building new highways, new hotels,
like they're popping up all over the place. So shout
out to the Prime Minister. I met him, to the president,
the PM. We actually went to his house. He cooked
some food, We had a vibe. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Now, besides Vagina, what did you come home to when throat's.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
My god like?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And I hope you reciprocated. No, I didn't come on
this old school.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'm forty nine. I'm not acting a our old school.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't want to get him in trouble, I know,
but I know he's he's done. He's doing it.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
First. Hold on, that's crazy. I don't remember who.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You had on the show, Champaul.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
No, no, it was a woman answered the question about
Jamaican man and eating pussy and they all do it. No, no, no,
they know, but this is the person was like, yeah,
they do it. And I'm like, oh, that's crazy. We're like,
did you actually fun three million Jamaican men?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So you've got to do.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
You have to care for what you say. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you do it, you do it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You like, it's kind of like ratings. You know, if
if ten people did it, that means you'll all do it,
because then it just makes.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Another dominently that's been a thing like that man they
said that Jamaican men don't do that and.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We should down either.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Who stopping.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And I'm than you not down.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Trying to sell.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right, You gotta be careful, I'm very careful, said yeah,
no comment.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah someone I heard.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
If you get some of this straight vibe um though,
then you would like for the I mean, and then
you can blame it on the run you watch up.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Sleeping. Yeah, but I mean, it is what it is,
what it is, what it is. But the culture is
a culture. It's like hip hop is African American. That
doesn't mean every single African American listens to hip you
know what I mean. It's like it's like going to
the beach. You have a glass, you dip it in
the water at the beach, right at the beach, and
(26:49):
you're like, look, I told you there are no sharks
in the sea. That's that small sample. So no, I can't.
I'm not gonna say. You have to stick to the culture. Man, Jerma,
do not eat and we don't cheat.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, Well now he's definitely lying.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, if they.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Cheated, but not not not me.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Not. I'm a one burner. You know what the one
burner is. You know what the one burner is one flame, yes,
this one flame. But you used to cheat a lot,
a lot and twice on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And you guys to right end up. You think that
comes with age. Somebody tell me.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
No, maturity has nothing to do with age, in fact nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And you kind of you're so busy you can't. You
don't even have time to really cheat.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Always time to cheat if you want to cheat, if
you want you want to.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
What's the words? You got caught cheating? Because I know when.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I got stopped by my man, she caught me with
a girl.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And stabbed you.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, because I was trying to like chilling, she stabbed me,
but I didn't know I got stabbed. Yeah. It was
my friend who told me that, Sean Salm and it
was in prison together. That's my bro, and he told
me I got stabbed. Then I looked down, I saw it.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That was like, yeah, where were you cheating in your
house that you shared with her? That's disrespectful. It was
my house, right, it was my house when you together.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
No, it was my house. I bought it. It was
my house. But since you wanted to get technical, she
lived there, yes, all right, so that was messed up.
But don't. Yeah, I'm messed up.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, okay, so you got I got stabbed. Did that
scare you straight? Did you stay with her after she
stabbed you? Yes, okay, why.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Would I leave? I love her more when she did, right,
I did. But she had to come nurse after help
and then you still, she had to come nurse me
back to hell.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I stab you for cheating, and then I nurse you
back to her, nurse.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Me back to cheat again.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
The toxicity, right, I love Toxicity though one of my
favorite cities, but toxic city.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I visited that place so many times I've been.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That's probably like one of my places vis.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Have you ever caught a woman cheating on you one time?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yes, before my before shorty, I had a girl up.
Her name was Stania too, Okay, yeah, I called her
kissing this guy you walked. It's not just not just
the kids, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You gotta watch her.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He wasn't it nothing, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Listen, kiss leaves that anyways, Come on to come on,
stop this.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Ship, Come on and what you do you mean what
I did?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Because I fucked him up? Okay, at the time, I
was a different person. Yes, that was way back in
the nineties.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, you had a life, boy.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Let me tell you, I live, man, several lifetimes in
one human form. Man.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But this life is about to be the best. And
I'm happy for you for that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, coming home, and I want to say, while
you was locked up, you did a lot more work
than people who had a lot more success than people
who were home, which is wild.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I so gold from prison. That's so silver from
prison I got for the Grammys of the prison album.
That's I put that work in, man. That's why I'm
not surprised when I'm reaping the rewards and the benefits. Plus,
I believe in God and I put everything in his
hands and I work hard, so I deserve it. As
long as I'm alive, I'm gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yes, you know I'm dead. You'd be good because the
kids would be.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Good, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's giving Bob Marley and.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
All your kids come together. I saw the video, Like
your kids get to hang out.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
They all yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
They all know each other.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The moms are still like you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, they are still like you. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
They love me. I don't got no problem.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are they invited to the wedding.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Okay around and what they have they say at the
wedding speak now or.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Four voices like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
All right, well listen, you gotta go because you want
to Yeah, that's they wrapping you up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You want to tes my publishists motion, Yeah you got
but listen.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so happy you came to see me.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I was like, even before you came to New York,
everybody was like, Vibe is going to come to your show.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's is going to come to your show. And I'm like,
we got to figure this out.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
This show to your questions are different.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh yeah, because yeah you've been doing that business. I
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah yeah, well now well now we really know each other.
So next time it's going to be even more intense.
You're not wait for that. Well, thank you so much,
Vibes car. This is everything I dreamed it would be.
So I appreciate you for coming through you are you
a good time?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Thank you very much. I'm the Vie.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You are the Vibes for sure, the Viking.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Oh my god, all right out
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