January 29, 2025 • 42 mins
Zoe reminds Dorinda Medley about the time they shared a cigarette at Andy Cohen's epic baby shower as "The Traitors" star praises Zoe's dad and requests a meeting with him ASAP! Dorinda shares her goals and dreams since leaving "RHONY" and explains why she refers to housewives as Disney characters.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,
welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler.
I am dead, dying, deceased. I don't even know what
to do today. My guest is from one of my
favorite shows, The Housewives. Derinda Medley is an American television personality, socialite,
and entrepreneur, best known for her role on Bravos The
(00:25):
Real Housewives of New York City. She joined in twenty
fifteen and she was on till twenty twenty. I'm obsessed
with her. I actually met her at Andy Cohen's baby
shower and smoked a cigarette with her and Teresa, and
I'm so excited to see if she remembers. Let's let
her in.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, I'm not okay, Oh sorry that I'm on my bed.
I'm having my of course this week. I'm having my
whole apartment painted.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Please, I only want to be in my bed every well.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know where are your California.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm in La.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It is? How is? How's everything going?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's been insane. It's been so insane, But I.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Want to get your head around.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's impossible, it is, truly. I've never I've lived here
forty four years. I mean, I'm forty four years old.
I'm born and raised her I've never seen anything like this,
so it's crazy. But I heard that New York is freezing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It is beyond cold. It is. It is offensively cold,
like you can't get warm. It's so demotivating that you literally, truly,
truly want to hibernate.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Like I've never lived really anywhere else, But I don't
think I could leave my house even if it's windy here,
I'm like, no thanks, I'll take a rain chuck.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And the worst part is this time of the year,
it's dark at four thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, but when.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Someone says to you, do you want to have dinner
at seven, You're like, I want to go to bed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, I only have dinner between the hours of five
and six thirty, so I refuse to go out past
that time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Then when I'm on my own, I do the same thing.
It's the best. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, we met one time before at Andy Cohen's
baby shower in La at the Palm.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ah Well, that was all a big blur.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I just texted him actually and said, yess who my
guest is.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was just down watch for Habits Live with him,
and as you know, I got murdered first off. But
you know, it's all turned out very well because I
got a lot of press out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And also like there's a reason that you were, you know,
taken off first, because you could have won the shit
out of that game.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Wow, I felt, you know. So it's so funny. I
was just on to tease and I was saying, and
Tarim of course was on Traders too, and she got
eliminated early on. It's not just that you're sad and
you're disappointed, you're embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like it's like training for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right right, and then you get there, I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Like, Nope, you're not run and go home. You brought
the gear, you you got, the mentality, you've done, the
training you've got. I mean, I I my outfits were
so well planned and on point. I mean I took it.
I would for the Vivian West with the Alayah, the
Libertine and.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They should have like a full they should have a redo,
they should do a redo.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Just for my clothes. Yeah, just for your outfits.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Do you miss being on like those kinds of shows.
Do you miss being on Housewives or your You're good?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, I think you always miss it. It's one you know,
this wasn't This was a competition show show, so so
totally different.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But also you know with with some of like with
a mixed survivor Housewives, I mean Bachelor, and.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know, I don't really watch any competition shows, right,
so I really didn't know anything. In fact, when I
was on watch app was live the other night, I
kept calling them the survivors and it's actually the survivor.
I didn't know that. I've never so it was so
interesting to meet these other gamers. It's a total totally
different thing because.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You're just living your life and they are trying to.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Kids are very buddy buddy. You know, we're all like afia.
You know, you know you we can be mean to
each other, but don't you dare be mean to you
know us, you.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Know siblings kind of yeah, you know, once you're.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
A housewife, you know we can cite each other from
across the room. When you immediately have a camaraderie. It
is true, Like I feel like that too.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I can cite I can. I can cite you from
across the room. And I feel like I told Andy
that when I was at his baby shirt was like
my super Bowl. I was beside myself. I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I couldn't. One of the best events ever ever.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was the most fun that could.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Have been, a show that could have been filmed.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Could have been And it was at the time where
it was all like the O G Housewives, even Dallas
was there, you know. I mean, it was such a
time and I feel like my parents used to say
to me, if you could just spend as much time
as you do on these particular things on schoolwork, you
would be great. And I feel like that's why I
am on Housewives. I know, I watch every single every
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single boy.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, it's interesting too. Even as a housewife, it
was interesting. It was like the Bravo kind of crowds.
But this was so concentrated in one room right now
that at some point when I was looking around the
table and there's least round, there's record, there's this one,
there's there's Jersey, there's you know, everybody's there.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it almost were like her two characters at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I blacked out. I was not okay, like I went up.
I felt like a little kid when you go to
Disneyland and you have your autograph book, and I wanted
to go up and and I just felt, I don't
know it. I have such a deep relationship in love
with the Housewives, all of them that I'm such a fan,
and I live in LA and my dad is an actor,
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and I literally don't care about anybody but Housewives.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What I always think about falling is I referred to
if I grew up, you know, with funds. Yeah, of
course I'm not. Boy. We all wanted to date, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And he's honestly like so not about it. It's like
you meet him and you're just like, who is this person?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Would you say I think he does those commercials so
well because I would buy the product because he's your dad,
He's everybody's dad.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He is, he's the best, he really is. He's just an.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Incredible Will you please tell him that? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh my gosh, I will. I feel like this is amazing.
I mean, I'm so grateful you have to come to
LA and come to dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh if I got to meet the funds that would
be it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh my god, you have to come, you have to come.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But listen, I think when it comes to the housewise
you were asking before, do I miss it? I think
you always miss it. It's in your blood. I really
always have a hard time personally with women that like say,
I've decided to on my own for a wishart. I'm
just I'm like, no, you did, because none of us leave.
It is like, you know, joining a cult. You just
don't get right, weird in.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A possible It's it's such an amazing and I feel
like you guys, I'm always so impressed that you guys
will have like an argument, There'll be some crazy argument,
somebody will say something so awful, and then you guys
can just like put it aside and enjoy each other.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, I think a lot of that has to do,
especially with the cast that I was on, or even
look at now Salt Lake City, is because when you
truly do know each other, yeah, and you have you
got to remember, I really we kind of all knew
each other from New York. I mean we had kids together,
We've been each other's funerals, divorces, baptisms, the whole thing.
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So you're able to go and also to you understand
the job okay, and you know you can go there
because you know your friendship so deep that you and
you have time to afterwards talk it out.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Right, which is such an amazing and it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Goes too far and it doesn't you know, you can't
talk it out and that's when it gets tricky. But
that's I think a key thing for our that was
great about our cast and see it with Salt Lake City, like,
to me, that's very old school housewives.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, Salt Lake City could win like every Emmy ever.
I mean this season was I was screaming that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I literally didn't think that it could. Bet they could
talk last season, I am they really have?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They really the new additions.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I love the new girls they joined. I love bron
Wynn Brodwin, and I like Britney. I like Brittany like
a Disney character.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She's so wild and now like with her instagrams of
her dancing and singing, I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't perfect housewife. She takes her eyes off her right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you watched the new season of New York?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I have, and I watched the finale last night.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Are you dead?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I haven't watched it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I haven't recorded, I haven't watched it yet. I have
a hard time with the New. With the New, they
just they don't seem to like each other at all.
And it feels so like, it feels so like I
have anxiety when I watch it instead of like know
is I was just.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Talking about that too with on Tamra and Teddy's podcast.
It's just so different and I and you know, I, I,
you know, I'm rooting for them because I think that
they took on a really hard task. It's totally now
remember the co there coming off of the cast that
people feel truly nostalgic about, right, And nostalgia is a
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very strong empowering sentiment. Right. You don't even have to
like the person, but if you're feeling nostalgic about them, right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It makes you feel like cozy almost, Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And the good thing about nostalgia is you only remember
the good and never the bad. So now you know,
we've become like these fixtures, you know, and these girls
had a hard uh path to follow and there it's
just a different thing. Visually, it's different. Their age group
is different. But as I said when I was on
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Alex Baskins, they are the New New York. You know,
you know, so it's it's just very different.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Alex Baskin is a good friend of mine. We went
to high school together.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know. I love him.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I love him so much. But he gets so annoyed
with me because we have dinner and I will just
grill him and he will be like, I cannot listen
to you for one more second. You have to shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And I am so for him because he loved good Grilly.
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But he's like, can we talk about something else? I'm like,
absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know what it is because I've got I've
got a little bit of a white Witch vibe. I
think I want to work with him one day. I
don't know what it's going to be. I don't know
how it's going to be. But every time I see him,
I have this connective feeling that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Was He's an amazing, amazing, amazing person. He is so
good at what he does, amazing, amazing interviewer and also
just like sees through it, so he just sees exactly
what is in front of him and can just handle anything.
He's an amazing person. He For those of you guys
who don't know he's an executive producer of lots of
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shows on Bravo, but also The O C and Beverly
Hills and vander Pump, The Valley.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The Valley Yeah, and then it has an incredible podcast
called Hot Mike Yeah, which is Yeah, it's good. I
was very I literally flew over to just be on that.
I was so excited that he asked me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He's the best. He actually took me to lunch to
ask me to co host a podcast with Crystal, but
I was doing it with my mom, and so my
mom and I started this podcast together. And then my
mom actually got six so she hasn't been able to
be on, so it's just me. She's definitely she's on
the men, so she'll be back and she's going to
be so upset that I got to do this one
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by myself because she's a big fan too.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
She is, she's a big fan. FO. They've been married. Now,
they've been.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Married, well, I'm forty four. They've been married for forty
seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Isn't that amazing in Hollywood? Yeah? Amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's very rare. And I think that my brothers and
I I think we don't even realize because my older
brother has a different dad. So my mom was married before.
They were married for three years and then they got
divorced and they both got remarried to their to their
person and they're our families are best best friends and
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which is like, you know, it's such a great way
to do it. So I feel really lucky. And my
parents they were never you know, it was never like
the perfect marriage. They fought, they they they would get
annoyed with each other, but they Yeah, they're just like
human beings, you know, and they work through it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And the people that make their marriages or anything out
to be too perfect, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
People who say they never fight, that's lie. Yeah, they're lying.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You can't. You have to be honest the bood. That
really pisses me off when people just talk about how
much sex they're having. I'm like, you know, having any sex? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, if you're going to say it, then you
don't want to I I then then then that's a lot. Yeah, people,
but that's like life, right. People always say, if you
really feel good about yourself, if you really are happy
where you are, you don't have to talk about it
every second, you know. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The best thing I think about growing older is one
of the best gifts that I said. If someone said,
what is the best one of the best gifts you
know about growing older? I said, you just have this
incredible sense of freedom. And I don't think as a
woman people, as a woman, that is such a gift. Freedom.
Freedom to do what you want, freedom to you know,
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you know, do what you want to, say what you want,
go where you want, take on product that you want
to do, you know, and thank by the grace of God,
I have a little bit of financial freedom too. So
I wake up in the morning I think I am blessed. Yeah,
you know, I kind of tick the things that you know,
my two husbands, you know, unfortunately one you passed away
on me, and Hannah's doing great, so I can check,
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you know, I've been I feel like I've been a
good daughter to my parents, which is a very important
to me, you know that I was. And I'm just
at a point where, yeah, I can do whatever I.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Want, right, which is such a yeah. And so many
people don't have that that's right, and they never they
never allow themselves that also, you know, and you've done
so many things, I mean, you have like fashion lines,
you have You've written a memoir. I mean, you've done
it all. Is there something left that you're like?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This is my next thing besides work with Alix.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I want to get a cookbook out. And if I
had my ultimate dream, if I had my ultimate dream,
and I'm you know, I believe in manifesting or at
least putting the energy out there. And I have my
radio show, which I love on Tuesdays, but I would
love to do some sort of form of a talk show.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you'd be so good at that to me would be.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The ultimate because I love talking. I like two people.
I don't even care if I know them. Hannah said
that I wake up talking. She said, your mouth is moving.
She calls me missus Kravitz. She said, my mother would
saying these words. Hey, don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But and does she still live in New York or no?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, she's at Harvard getting your PhD.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh wow, yeah, so you definitely you could definitely check
that box.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
She's just in her which basically means I'm back at school.
I'm getting my PhD. Right. Someone the other day it's
amazingly how God works or life or biology or whatever
it is. But you know, when they're little you never
can imagine them leaving home. How could they ever leave?
My life will be over?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's of course, they're little in your mother and there's all.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I have three, so I feel that way.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, Well, then I think something happens with the hormones
and the brain changes a little bit. You know, it's
the grace of God or the grace of biology that
you know you're okay. You're not happy when they leave,
but you're you're okay. It's time, right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I feel like I can only imagine, like when my
kids go to college, I'll just go live there. But
then I think to myself, like I'll be ready for
them to go at that point. But it's just crazy.
You reise these little people and then your goal is
for them to go off and be healthy and live
their lives, and I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But you know what, the person that leaves at eighteen
needs to leave because you're still in love with the
little one that you know. I'm you know, you still
want to do things like do you want French schous
this morning? They're like my bad out.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Actually, my oldest just turned thirteen, so we're getting into that.
We're getting into that little, you know, and it's why and.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's good the heartbreak because you can dislike them a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, okay, And sometimes I'm like, you're being so annoying
and then I'm like, oh wait, he's thirteen. You know,
it's a difference.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think it's to the point now where she's thirty
one and she comes home and I'm actually like, you
need to go back to Harvard.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, it starts off so well and then you're like, Okay,
I have a life, right and I need to get
back to living it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So it's funny like how everything is meant to be
the way it's right? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do you feel like when people talk to you about
how So I was like, I know my dad used
to feel like when people would bring up Fonsi, he'd
be like, but I've done so many other things since.
Or does it bother you? Or do you love it?
Or do you honor it?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You know? Bravo that show and Bravo will always hold
a very super special place in my heart because remember
it was like a year and a half or maybe
a little more after my husband passed, so I was lost.
I was like, you know, because remember I had great
plans and we Hannah was going to go to college.
We were going to live in the Berkshire's and mainly
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he was going to write, and we'd have a little
place in New York and maybe a little place in Washington,
because he was a political writer as well. Like I
had it figured out, and one year poof, Hannah went
to college and my husband died. All these great identities
that I loved. I loved being a mother and a
wife like I that worked for me. I had no
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stream in it, right, I was never born. You don't
always had side jobs at the real estate, but that
was sort of my thing being right. So when all
that left, I was really like a toothpick in the ocean,
and where I didn't want to be a toothpick in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right, And how incredible that like you loved that, you
loved that part, you loved being mom, you loved being
and then you had this tragedy happen, I mean literally
and you then you went on to Now you're like
just thinking about what you could do next.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
What what's great is I could go in to this
thing which they had asked me before, but it just
will timing. Everything in life is timing. And you know,
I didn't want Hannah on at a young age because
I just know that would be my it was my decision.
I didn't want it to you know, affect her future
a lot. Yeah, and uh but I got by the
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time I went on, you know, she was eighteen or so,
you know, and I didn't have a husband, so I
didn't have to worry. I could just I wasn't Missus Medley,
I wasn't Hannah's mom. I was I could just be
me right, just to Rinda.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Right, it didn't matter, and you could experiment with like
finally you had this freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Huge freedom. Yeah, and it was very therapeutic for me.
And you know, I got some of it right and
I got some of it wrong, but it was okay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, well that's life. You got some of it right,
you get some of it wrong. And then I mean
they tell you, like, because I'm in such a different stage,
they tell you in parenting, the most important thing is
to repair, like when you make a mistake, when you
you know, and so I always am going back, like
you know, I mean a mistake, but as long as
you can own whatever it is, and then as long
as you also grow and grow.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And it was so nice to like have you know,
I think that was for a nice for me. I
just could be my authentic self and I wasn't so
concerned if everybody liked me, because you know, there is
a thing when you're married and you're raising children. It's
not a facade, but you're you're always making sure you're counting,
and you're making sure that everything is good and straight
(19:45):
and correct and doing the right path. And don't totally right.
You goof up for one day, you torture yourself for
a week, right.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, like the biggest mistake, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Basically I live peezer anyway. Come from an ethnic family,
you know, my family's Polish and Italian, so you yeah,
so it was nice to just be able to grow
in that part. And you know, it was really nice.
Tell you what, was really a beautiful thing for me
because I hadn't done it for I never really worked
very long in the corporate work world. I worked in
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fashion for about two years in the Macy's program and
then in the showrooms Liz Claiborne, and then I got
married and that was I went where my husbands went,
you know, where my first husband lived all over the world,
so I would go where he worked. He was an
investment banker. So it was really nice too to just
make money again. Like the first time I saw the
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check from NBC, I was like, what would you look
at that?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You know, I actually just got my free paycheck from
doing this podcast. And I sent my husband a picture
and I put it on our corkboard because I haven't
had a check, I haven't made I mean, I was
a teacher for years and years. Now I have a
nonprofit and now I'm doing this, but I make no
money in my nonprofit and as a teacher, I didn't
really make any money and now I find but I
(21:05):
at least I was contributing financially. Not that I feel
like I have to, but it just feels so good. Good, Yeah,
it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah. And I was like, this is so good. And
then when you know, it just it was a really
great confidence builder. It was a really great way to
get work through my grieving period because I had a
platform to talk about it. And not only that, how
many people, well what amaze me without knowing it because
I hadn't been a houseway for how people really you know,
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gravitated towards it and wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Because because nobody knows what to say when you're grieving,
no something to be a widow.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I remember this woman wants at Elios. I was at
Elos after Richard died. I was sitting at the having
like a dinner at the bar because I was by myself, right,
and a woman came to set next week, She's probably
in her eighties, and I started talking to her. I said.
She said, oh, I lost my husband two years ago,
so I'm a widow. I said, oh my god, I
lost my husband too. You know. It was like like
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a happy and oh, like you're like me and I
you know, this was thirteen fourteen years ago, and I said,
so I'm a widow too. She said, oh, no, you're
not a widow. You're far too young to be a widow.
That's just a tragedy, you know, she said, I have
My husband was ninety when he died. So that's the
process of life. So I think it's not only hard
to talk about grief, but I think it's a very
like there should be a different word for a young widow.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's true, that's a true aging word.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, it is. Visualize a widow you see an older
woman or an older man.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, you were young and you had a child, and
there were.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
A lot of people out there that lost their partners
at a pivotal time in their life. It wasn't time.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I just had a great idea, since I know you've
written your memoir, but you should write a book on that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yes, well, I should write it Carol's book What Remains
right right, right?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
But it's just because I know, I lost my best
friend recently and she was forty four years old, and
there's like, you don't there's there's nothing to say.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like you know, and and it's not like you
can just say it's a wrinkle in time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right, right, And it feels in that moment like it's
never going to get better. And then but you have
all this time ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Of you, because hopefully not so much ahead of you, right,
I planned with them, right. Funny, right now, I have
elder parents, and I talk a lot amongst my friends
because we have, you know this helping them through this period.
And yeah, that's ninety and my mom's older, and of
course at some point they're not going to be part
(23:36):
of my life. But having gone through what I went
through with Richard and really understanding for me anyway that
it really is just the body that leaves.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Like you still they're always with you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, truly truly keep a connection if you're open to it.
And I had that conversation with my parents, who are
stouch Catholic, so you really don't talk about anything, you know,
right right right, like I'm okay, they'rer and it was
it was nice to uh, because I've gone through it.
I actually had a real comfort in speaking to them
about it openly, which I actually think has helped me
(24:14):
kind of quell the panic of them leaving me physically.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I mean I'm in that panic right now, and
I was during this period. And then even with my friend,
I was given this book called Signs Yes and how
it's amazing and how there's all these moments where they're
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But isn't it wild when you read that book how
true it is and if you actually ask, you know,
for a sign or act in a certain call, you
really do see it, Like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm obsessed with psychics, so I did. I meet with
lots and I really enjoy it and mediums and all
that kind of stuff. It's like a huge part of
my life. I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I love that too. I always think it'd be a
good it'd be a good time in my life to
try to can I I do see someone like that
with Richard, because I think he would come to me.
Now for a while I didn't want him.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I have such a great person for you. She's in Australia.
I'll give it to you after. She's incredible, beyond beyond,
beyond beyond. Yeah, if you're interested, I don't mind going.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I'm proud of my badge. I feel it's a badge
of honor being And I think, what's a housewife? Always
a housewife? Like I'm very proud of people are like
by the real housewife. I'm like, that's right, because there's I.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Feel that way too. I mean that's how I would feel.
But I know that sometimes when you've done something that's
so hugely successful and then you go on to do
other things that are also hugely successful and incredible, sometimes
you know it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Difference between your dad and someone like me. Like your
dad was just a great actor period, Okay, he just is.
He's a great character actor. He's just a great walk.
I wouldn't have gotten all the other things if it
weren't for it, Like it's the chicken in the egg
what came? So I only really got my radio show
because I was a Bravo Or do Appeyers because I
was a Bravo? Or whatte my book because I was
(25:59):
a brav You know what I mean. So I'm a
real believer that you have to, you know, really be
appreciative of how it began, how life.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, totally. Are you still close with some of the
people from your cast?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh yes, I mean we've I've known these women for
right your years, you know, a little bit more dispersed,
you know. Ramona's not in the city so much. She's
more in Palm Beach.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
She's wild and is here.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And there, but she's on Torala. But we always stay
in touch.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Right right and any Are you close with any of
the women from other cities?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh my god, Yes, I'm like a housewife whisper. That's
so good. Like I have friends with all of them. Yes,
I love I love a good housewife.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Max.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's it's like I say that, they're like we're like
a zoo, you know, great zoo in each cage has
a different set of Animal and yeah Ultimate Zoo Keeper. Yeah.
I think it's like for the Circus.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
When you get a really good season and you get
women that really, you believe what you were saying, care
about each other even with the stuff, because everybody has stuff.
Everyone has things everyone and also it's you. You're different
personalities and you're coming together. That's when it's like magic.
Like there are some that are hard to watch because.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's just like like baking a great cakes a little
bit more than others. You know, the flower may be
a little bit heavier than the two eggs, but you
need them, you need the Everyone brings a little ingredient
to the cake, right, Yeah, I guess that slap on
the frosting.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, there should be some crossover,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well that's why those Ultimate Girls trips were fun.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I saw the one at.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The Manor.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah it was I mean was.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think that was an epic cast And you know
what's very interesting about that one. After that, Tama went
back to work. Phaedra went back to work.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Is the best a queen she is? She she is incredible.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, when you see your back on TV, you think yourself,
how could she have never not been on TV. I
know she is.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
She's laugh out loud, funny and also just like shady
and the perfect way.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I love her so much all the way show her
and Eva are. They're stunning on TV, but in real life.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I know, like I know Eva. I remember seeing her
on America's Next Top Model. I mean I used to
watch that show. Yeah, yes, yeah, no, that was such
a good.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Like I said, I know this is gonna sound weird,
but is it a burden to be this beautiful? Like
you do? Want to stare? You know, it's kind of
like looking at a doll, you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Know, totally. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean it's but it's
it's it's it's amazing when you guys all get together.
That's why they should do a Traders of like all Stars,
they should do an all Star Traders. Well you never Traders.
A Trader's a Trader's Girls trip.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think a crossover is a success even before starts.
People just like to see because people don't really believe,
you know, what we are. Like I said before, we're
kind of like Disney characters. People don't believe that we
all really know each other. So like I'm gonna tell
you something. You walk down the street and if you're
with one or more housewives, either from your own franchise
(29:17):
or another, people get overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
They're like, yeah, I'm sure it's freezy, like they'd love
to see you on your own, but if they see
three of you together, it's truly like seeing a white leopard.
That's about I had the experience just in a restaurant
in Beverly. I was overcome, and I was.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Always wild that these women are exactly the way you
think they're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Be, exactly exactly. And I remember like one of them
was like, really not that nice to me. I went
over and I was like hi, you know, and she
just turned around, and I was like, that is exactly
how I would have like how I would have imagined.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
They were all so nice, Like everybody was really so nice.
And I loved Dallas and I'm sad that that's.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Not on anymore. I really like understand why they took
I just know it's so weird. I just saw one
of the Dallas girls the other day, and I've got
to tell you, I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I loved it. I loved Dallas there. I I you know,
New Jersey's hard for me, just because they're so mean
to each other. There's like people on it that I love,
Like I love Margaret.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And she's one of those women, the other strong characters. Yeah,
you know, you don't even have to like a housewife
to want them on the house waves, they know, you know,
like Teresa is just great TV. I don't know what
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I'm watching it right right, I have the opposite. I
cannot like it's just it's so like the whole thing.
I mean, I don't know her at all.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't know these people. I'm a fan, except I
know Margaret a little bit. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It's hertcat. But Marbar's exactly the way you expect her
to be, exactly, this is exactly the way you spect right,
you know. I think the last couple of seasons were tough.
But Teresa's a character and she's great and you.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Know, yeah, no, she's obviously I'm watching it. I'm enjoying
watching her, you know. And and and also she seems
like a really great mom.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Amazing is yeah, beautiful, you know, no one can take
that away from her. Boy, because those girls are beautiful
and they're each very successful and they love their mother.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, and so like that to me, you look at
that and you think, well something that that to me
is like, Okay, well you know, she loves her kids
and she's a great mom and so you know, and
but it's like it's just like madness. I'm just like,
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That becomes less relatable.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think, well, you know, they couldn't. There was nowhere
to go with that in the end, right, Yeah, you know,
I really thought last year after the reunion was so
caustic and stuff. I didn't think I think I thought
they would do it then, but I was surprised that
they went on for a whole nother year and they
kind of didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, yeah, because then it just becomes like you're like,
it's almost like I don't know, but I feel like
the thing about the Housewives for for for me at least,
is that it just like you you get to escape.
And I always love, you know, looking into other people's lives.
I think it's so interesting the way different people live and.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Looking into different cities, because yeah, how would you know
how a woman lives in New York City? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've decided I want to move to Salt Lake City.
I told my husband, you know what, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So funny you say that, I said that. I said,
that's a college that called into my show today. I said,
from Salt Lake City. I said, I've never thought i'd
say this, but I'm dying to go to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I go to Park City every year because my kids.
We take our kids skiing there and I immediately go
to Meredith Mark store. I pray that I'll see somebody
I walk. It's it's such a great and we have
a lot of friends during the pandemic that moved from
LA to Park City and it's such an incredible life. Yes,
I just said, I mean I would never leave Oli. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Women are very very glamorous.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Very glamorous, very yeah, and like even if on TikTok
some of the like Salt Lake City influencers, it's like,
you know, they're so they're getting these amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
They're a little Dallas, right they are.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
They are. It's interesting, You're exactly right. Maybe that's what
took over. But it's such a great I mean, there's
so many amazing women that have come through and been through,
Like on our television.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I loved I thought they I really enjoyed it, and
I was sad not to see them come back. Was
I love Dubai.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I love to Dubai too. I loved it and I
loved Dubai. And Chanel was on your season of Traders, and.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
She was a great character, very just saying what kind
of stays and what kind of goes? Isn't it There's
no real rhyme or reason to it.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
No, And it's interesting because I don't. I mean, that
was like you're seeing like such opulence, Like the life
style in Dubai is crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And again it's really like that because I've been like
three or four times and everything.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Is just over the top, right, I want to go.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I went to a very big party in Dubai, just
someone's house for dinner or dinner party in Dubai, and
we walked in through the gates and it was just beautiful,
like a building. I thought, oh god, that's nice. It
was all glass. I look at that, their whole buildings round.
I guess the guy goes, oh, no, that's just where
they keep their groad there.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And is it really that hot? It feels like it's
like so hot all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Desert. Yes, it's really that hot.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's not even like even in the winter it's cold.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Bigger, better, faster. You go to someone's body, you know,
most people have a little tanned cavita or your thrilled.
You know that's everything's just bigger. And you just wonder
where there's all this money coming from that they.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Should live there. I would like big tins of caviar
at all times.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Right, it's so good, and the women dress up and
the women are, yeah, stunningly beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I know, I want to visit. I've never been. I've
never been there, and it seems like after watching that show.
That's the other thing is I wonder like how it
does first.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Pick because it's like going to Disney. It's so different
from what we understand. And I had never really, you know,
spent a lot of time the first time I went
over there, and I remember I saw a group of
these Persian women sitting at the burge and they look
like something out of it, like a book, you know
what I mean, you decided like one of those books
(35:42):
when you were a little with that beautiful black hair
and the gorgeous skin.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Right, it was just I'm like dressed like perfectly.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, dressed immaculately and just such such women.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I know, I wonder if it'll come back because it
was such a good It was so good. There are
different ones when I'm like, oh that I'm sad that
that's over. And there are some cities. Could you ever,
what was there a city that you think that like
they should do next?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You know, I believe I agree with you. I think
they could bring back Dallas. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I love Dallas, such.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
A great city, and it's a city and the women
are just such a cute who yeah, just such a
great sense of humor. They're like body a bit, you
know what I mean. I would have never have thought
Salt Lake City would do well, Like when I first
came out in like Selling City, what the hell is that?
So you just never know. Maybe a Housewives of uh
(36:41):
what about Housewives of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh, that would be so good because there's this whole
culture there of like people that are way off of
the street.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that would be really good in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Like that would be really good. Like and there's a
whole there's a huge community out there, like the people
who live like off the street that you know, we're.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Super in these communities of huge houses. I've been there.
You're like, wait, what this is Las Vegas?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Do you think that like all the women, some of
the women, it feels like their houses aren't even real,
you know, like it's like do you I wonder if
people feel like they have to like maybe pretend instead.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Of well, I think there's a lot of in life
in general. It definitely only shows. There's I always say,
there's the first season glow up right.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The teeth. It's always the teeth and they.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Look totally different.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You're like, always the teeth.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
They're always like twenty pounds in er new teeth and yeah,
you're like, wow, you had a great summer. And there's
definitely a pressure to keep up. Yeah, and you can
fall into it, and you've got to be careful because
you know, you can end up spending everything you make
trying to keep up and then ulfilling prophecy. Right, yeah,
because if you're not sort of prepared, because everybody eventually
(37:56):
goes yeah you know and it's done like this, yes, right,
you have to be ready for that day.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But then like there's always the chance that then you
come back, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
The great thing about if you're in good favor with
Robo and NBC and stuff. They always I always say,
I'm like the Jack in the box. I you know,
they put they put me on the shelf for a year.
So then I come back out and do an Ultimate
Girlship and I go back on the shelf and they
wind me up and they come out, you know what
I mean. So you're always doing something with NBC. It
really I mean, I know this sounds corny and people
(38:28):
are gonna believe it, but it is like you're part
of a family. Yeah, I was so hap I saw
that when Peacock picked up, you know, the show. I'm
trying to get up off the feet for Bluestone Matter,
because you want to keep it in the family. Right,
there's no learning curve, right, you know exactly can and
talk to them and ask them questions and learn from them,
and you know they're always very receptive about that.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Can you tell us more about that show?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, you know, we're developed. I've developed a show and
Peacock is involved right now and we're trying to get it,
you know, up and going and cast and hopefully cameras
getting the cameras up sometime in the summer.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'd love to be on it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Okay, I think it's important because people miss they sincerely
miss Bluestone Manner.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Do you still have the fish in the room?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Of course? And Andy has won a watch Rabbits Live.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I brought one to watch Rabbits Live. He's got it.
It's hug up in the in the main room.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh my gosh, I mean, and that's another cultural phenomena
thing like with Andy was like, can we have one
of your fish for the watch rapp Is Life room.
I was so honored. You would have thought that he
asked me to give him his first first baby.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Also like that was like that, you know, he carried.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
It back in the back of my car.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think about your kitchen and at Blue Stowe Manner
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The beauty of the Beast kitchen.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's such a good kitchen and you're making lasagna.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That happens weekly. See that's you know what I did
my kitchen a blue No matter of this Marshall Watson,
who I'm very close to, but he's you know, probably
much more fancy than me. He's like, what are you
feeling for your kitchen? I said, I want it to
be like a beauty in the Beast kitchen. I want
to be able to drag a dead animal in there
and chop it up on the counter.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you did it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I said, you want to accomplished schedule. I don't want
anything cute. I want heavy, thick, you know, like a
working kitchen you see in Newport from nineteen oh two.
And I it's so, it's a working kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You should like it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's it's like Graceland.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You should do like.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's like a very it's an iconic, an iconic place
for people would come visit.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Now, that would be my dream if I could just
get up there. You know, it's such a it's such
a crazy thing. Every time I get up there to
take a week, something comes up and I'm back in
the city real time.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
How long does it take to get up there from
the city.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's nothing. It's like like a little under two and
a half hours. But it's a beautiful drive because you
get right on the Taconic, you get off in Millbrook.
I stop and go to the diner there and then
mentally I'm kind of home, even though great or so
or maybe forty Yeah, thirty about thirty. But it's just
such a It's not like going to the Hamptains, which
is an arduous yeah, highway drive. This is a beautiful drive,
(41:14):
so it's like enjoying it. Read something. I don't go
now because it's just too cold and dark and I
don't do well in that. You know, at least in
the city, what it's like this, you can still cop
in a cab. You can still go see your friends
one way.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You just like walk down the street in the city
the house. No, no, no, no, I get that. Thank
you so much for joining me on another episode of
What in the Winkler. Please tell a friend to listen,
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Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank you,
You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,
welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler.
I am dead, dying, deceased. I don't even know what
to do today. My guest is from one of my
favorite shows, The Housewives. Derinda Medley is an American television personality, socialite,
and entrepreneur, best known for her role on Bravos The
(00:25):
Real Housewives of New York City. She joined in twenty
fifteen and she was on till twenty twenty. I'm obsessed
with her. I actually met her at Andy Cohen's baby
shower and smoked a cigarette with her and Teresa, and
I'm so excited to see if she remembers. Let's let
her in.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, I'm not okay, Oh sorry that I'm on my bed.
I'm having my of course this week. I'm having my
whole apartment painted.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Please, I only want to be in my bed every well.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know where are your California.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm in La.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It is? How is? How's everything going?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's been insane. It's been so insane, But I.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Want to get your head around.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's impossible, it is, truly. I've never I've lived here
forty four years. I mean, I'm forty four years old.
I'm born and raised her I've never seen anything like this,
so it's crazy. But I heard that New York is freezing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It is beyond cold. It is. It is offensively cold,
like you can't get warm. It's so demotivating that you literally, truly,
truly want to hibernate.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Like I've never lived really anywhere else, But I don't
think I could leave my house even if it's windy here,
I'm like, no thanks, I'll take a rain chuck.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And the worst part is this time of the year,
it's dark at four thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, but when.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Someone says to you, do you want to have dinner
at seven, You're like, I want to go to bed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, I only have dinner between the hours of five
and six thirty, so I refuse to go out past
that time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Then when I'm on my own, I do the same thing.
It's the best. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, we met one time before at Andy Cohen's
baby shower in La at the Palm.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ah Well, that was all a big blur.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I just texted him actually and said, yess who my
guest is.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was just down watch for Habits Live with him,
and as you know, I got murdered first off. But
you know, it's all turned out very well because I
got a lot of press out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And also like there's a reason that you were, you know,
taken off first, because you could have won the shit
out of that game.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Wow, I felt, you know. So it's so funny. I
was just on to tease and I was saying, and
Tarim of course was on Traders too, and she got
eliminated early on. It's not just that you're sad and
you're disappointed, you're embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like it's like training for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right right, and then you get there, I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Like, Nope, you're not run and go home. You brought
the gear, you you got, the mentality, you've done, the
training you've got. I mean, I I my outfits were
so well planned and on point. I mean I took it.
I would for the Vivian West with the Alayah, the
Libertine and.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They should have like a full they should have a redo,
they should do a redo.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Just for my clothes. Yeah, just for your outfits.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Do you miss being on like those kinds of shows.
Do you miss being on Housewives or your You're good?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, I think you always miss it. It's one you know,
this wasn't This was a competition show show, so so
totally different.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But also you know with with some of like with
a mixed survivor Housewives, I mean Bachelor, and.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know, I don't really watch any competition shows, right,
so I really didn't know anything. In fact, when I
was on watch app was live the other night, I
kept calling them the survivors and it's actually the survivor.
I didn't know that. I've never so it was so
interesting to meet these other gamers. It's a total totally
different thing because.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You're just living your life and they are trying to.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Kids are very buddy buddy. You know, we're all like afia.
You know, you know you we can be mean to
each other, but don't you dare be mean to you
know us, you.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Know siblings kind of yeah, you know, once you're.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
A housewife, you know we can cite each other from
across the room. When you immediately have a camaraderie. It
is true, Like I feel like that too.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I can cite I can. I can cite you from
across the room. And I feel like I told Andy
that when I was at his baby shirt was like
my super Bowl. I was beside myself. I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I couldn't. One of the best events ever ever.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was the most fun that could.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Have been, a show that could have been filmed.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Could have been And it was at the time where
it was all like the O G Housewives, even Dallas
was there, you know. I mean, it was such a
time and I feel like my parents used to say
to me, if you could just spend as much time
as you do on these particular things on schoolwork, you
would be great. And I feel like that's why I
am on Housewives. I know, I watch every single every
(05:03):
single boy.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, it's interesting too. Even as a housewife, it
was interesting. It was like the Bravo kind of crowds.
But this was so concentrated in one room right now
that at some point when I was looking around the
table and there's least round, there's record, there's this one,
there's there's Jersey, there's you know, everybody's there.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it almost were like her two characters at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I blacked out. I was not okay, like I went up.
I felt like a little kid when you go to
Disneyland and you have your autograph book, and I wanted
to go up and and I just felt, I don't
know it. I have such a deep relationship in love
with the Housewives, all of them that I'm such a fan,
and I live in LA and my dad is an actor,
(05:55):
and I literally don't care about anybody but Housewives.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What I always think about falling is I referred to
if I grew up, you know, with funds. Yeah, of
course I'm not. Boy. We all wanted to date, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And he's honestly like so not about it. It's like
you meet him and you're just like, who is this person?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Would you say I think he does those commercials so
well because I would buy the product because he's your dad,
He's everybody's dad.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He is, he's the best, he really is. He's just an.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Incredible Will you please tell him that? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh my gosh, I will. I feel like this is amazing.
I mean, I'm so grateful you have to come to
LA and come to dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh if I got to meet the funds that would
be it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh my god, you have to come, you have to come.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But listen, I think when it comes to the housewise
you were asking before, do I miss it? I think
you always miss it. It's in your blood. I really
always have a hard time personally with women that like say,
I've decided to on my own for a wishart. I'm
just I'm like, no, you did, because none of us leave.
It is like, you know, joining a cult. You just
don't get right, weird in.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A possible It's it's such an amazing and I feel
like you guys, I'm always so impressed that you guys
will have like an argument, There'll be some crazy argument,
somebody will say something so awful, and then you guys
can just like put it aside and enjoy each other.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, I think a lot of that has to do,
especially with the cast that I was on, or even
look at now Salt Lake City, is because when you
truly do know each other, yeah, and you have you
got to remember, I really we kind of all knew
each other from New York. I mean we had kids together,
We've been each other's funerals, divorces, baptisms, the whole thing.
(07:35):
So you're able to go and also to you understand
the job okay, and you know you can go there
because you know your friendship so deep that you and
you have time to afterwards talk it out.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Right, which is such an amazing and it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Goes too far and it doesn't you know, you can't
talk it out and that's when it gets tricky. But
that's I think a key thing for our that was
great about our cast and see it with Salt Lake City, like,
to me, that's very old school housewives.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, Salt Lake City could win like every Emmy ever.
I mean this season was I was screaming that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I literally didn't think that it could. Bet they could
talk last season, I am they really have?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They really the new additions.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I love the new girls they joined. I love bron
Wynn Brodwin, and I like Britney. I like Brittany like
a Disney character.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She's so wild and now like with her instagrams of
her dancing and singing, I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't perfect housewife. She takes her eyes off her right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you watched the new season of New York?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I have, and I watched the finale last night.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Are you dead?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I haven't watched it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I haven't recorded, I haven't watched it yet. I have
a hard time with the New. With the New, they
just they don't seem to like each other at all.
And it feels so like, it feels so like I
have anxiety when I watch it instead of like know
is I was just.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Talking about that too with on Tamra and Teddy's podcast.
It's just so different and I and you know, I, I,
you know, I'm rooting for them because I think that
they took on a really hard task. It's totally now
remember the co there coming off of the cast that
people feel truly nostalgic about, right, And nostalgia is a
(09:23):
very strong empowering sentiment. Right. You don't even have to
like the person, but if you're feeling nostalgic about them, right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It makes you feel like cozy almost, Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And the good thing about nostalgia is you only remember
the good and never the bad. So now you know,
we've become like these fixtures, you know, and these girls
had a hard uh path to follow and there it's
just a different thing. Visually, it's different. Their age group
is different. But as I said when I was on
(09:53):
Alex Baskins, they are the New New York. You know,
you know, so it's it's just very different.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Alex Baskin is a good friend of mine. We went
to high school together.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know. I love him.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I love him so much. But he gets so annoyed
with me because we have dinner and I will just
grill him and he will be like, I cannot listen
to you for one more second. You have to shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And I am so for him because he loved good Grilly.
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But he's like, can we talk about something else? I'm like,
absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know what it is because I've got I've
got a little bit of a white Witch vibe. I
think I want to work with him one day. I
don't know what it's going to be. I don't know
how it's going to be. But every time I see him,
I have this connective feeling that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Was He's an amazing, amazing, amazing person. He is so
good at what he does, amazing, amazing interviewer and also
just like sees through it, so he just sees exactly
what is in front of him and can just handle anything.
He's an amazing person. He For those of you guys
who don't know he's an executive producer of lots of
(10:59):
shows on Bravo, but also The O C and Beverly
Hills and vander Pump, The Valley.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The Valley Yeah, and then it has an incredible podcast
called Hot Mike Yeah, which is Yeah, it's good. I
was very I literally flew over to just be on that.
I was so excited that he asked me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He's the best. He actually took me to lunch to
ask me to co host a podcast with Crystal, but
I was doing it with my mom, and so my
mom and I started this podcast together. And then my
mom actually got six so she hasn't been able to
be on, so it's just me. She's definitely she's on
the men, so she'll be back and she's going to
be so upset that I got to do this one
(11:42):
by myself because she's a big fan too.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
She is, she's a big fan. FO. They've been married. Now,
they've been.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Married, well, I'm forty four. They've been married for forty
seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Isn't that amazing in Hollywood? Yeah? Amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's very rare. And I think that my brothers and
I I think we don't even realize because my older
brother has a different dad. So my mom was married before.
They were married for three years and then they got
divorced and they both got remarried to their to their
person and they're our families are best best friends and
(12:20):
which is like, you know, it's such a great way
to do it. So I feel really lucky. And my
parents they were never you know, it was never like
the perfect marriage. They fought, they they they would get
annoyed with each other, but they Yeah, they're just like
human beings, you know, and they work through it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And the people that make their marriages or anything out
to be too perfect, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
People who say they never fight, that's lie. Yeah, they're lying.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You can't. You have to be honest the bood. That
really pisses me off when people just talk about how
much sex they're having. I'm like, you know, having any sex? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, if you're going to say it, then you
don't want to I I then then then that's a lot. Yeah, people,
but that's like life, right. People always say, if you
really feel good about yourself, if you really are happy
where you are, you don't have to talk about it
every second, you know. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The best thing I think about growing older is one
of the best gifts that I said. If someone said,
what is the best one of the best gifts you
know about growing older? I said, you just have this
incredible sense of freedom. And I don't think as a
woman people, as a woman, that is such a gift. Freedom.
Freedom to do what you want, freedom to you know,
(13:29):
you know, do what you want to, say what you want,
go where you want, take on product that you want
to do, you know, and thank by the grace of God,
I have a little bit of financial freedom too. So
I wake up in the morning I think I am blessed. Yeah,
you know, I kind of tick the things that you know,
my two husbands, you know, unfortunately one you passed away
on me, and Hannah's doing great, so I can check,
(13:51):
you know, I've been I feel like I've been a
good daughter to my parents, which is a very important
to me, you know that I was. And I'm just
at a point where, yeah, I can do whatever I.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Want, right, which is such a yeah. And so many
people don't have that that's right, and they never they
never allow themselves that also, you know, and you've done
so many things, I mean, you have like fashion lines,
you have You've written a memoir. I mean, you've done
it all. Is there something left that you're like?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This is my next thing besides work with Alix.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I want to get a cookbook out. And if I
had my ultimate dream, if I had my ultimate dream,
and I'm you know, I believe in manifesting or at
least putting the energy out there. And I have my
radio show, which I love on Tuesdays, but I would
love to do some sort of form of a talk show.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you'd be so good at that to me would be.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The ultimate because I love talking. I like two people.
I don't even care if I know them. Hannah said
that I wake up talking. She said, your mouth is moving.
She calls me missus Kravitz. She said, my mother would
saying these words. Hey, don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But and does she still live in New York or no?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, she's at Harvard getting your PhD.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh wow, yeah, so you definitely you could definitely check
that box.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
She's just in her which basically means I'm back at school.
I'm getting my PhD. Right. Someone the other day it's
amazingly how God works or life or biology or whatever
it is. But you know, when they're little you never
can imagine them leaving home. How could they ever leave?
My life will be over?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's of course, they're little in your mother and there's all.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I have three, so I feel that way.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, Well, then I think something happens with the hormones
and the brain changes a little bit. You know, it's
the grace of God or the grace of biology that
you know you're okay. You're not happy when they leave,
but you're you're okay. It's time, right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I feel like I can only imagine, like when my
kids go to college, I'll just go live there. But
then I think to myself, like I'll be ready for
them to go at that point. But it's just crazy.
You reise these little people and then your goal is
for them to go off and be healthy and live
their lives, and I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But you know what, the person that leaves at eighteen
needs to leave because you're still in love with the
little one that you know. I'm you know, you still
want to do things like do you want French schous
this morning? They're like my bad out.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Actually, my oldest just turned thirteen, so we're getting into that.
We're getting into that little, you know, and it's why and.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's good the heartbreak because you can dislike them a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, okay, And sometimes I'm like, you're being so annoying
and then I'm like, oh wait, he's thirteen. You know,
it's a difference.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think it's to the point now where she's thirty
one and she comes home and I'm actually like, you
need to go back to Harvard.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, it starts off so well and then you're like, Okay,
I have a life, right and I need to get
back to living it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So it's funny like how everything is meant to be
the way it's right? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do you feel like when people talk to you about
how So I was like, I know my dad used
to feel like when people would bring up Fonsi, he'd
be like, but I've done so many other things since.
Or does it bother you? Or do you love it?
Or do you honor it?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You know? Bravo that show and Bravo will always hold
a very super special place in my heart because remember
it was like a year and a half or maybe
a little more after my husband passed, so I was lost.
I was like, you know, because remember I had great
plans and we Hannah was going to go to college.
We were going to live in the Berkshire's and mainly
(17:27):
he was going to write, and we'd have a little
place in New York and maybe a little place in Washington,
because he was a political writer as well. Like I
had it figured out, and one year poof, Hannah went
to college and my husband died. All these great identities
that I loved. I loved being a mother and a
wife like I that worked for me. I had no
(17:47):
stream in it, right, I was never born. You don't
always had side jobs at the real estate, but that
was sort of my thing being right. So when all
that left, I was really like a toothpick in the ocean,
and where I didn't want to be a toothpick in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right, And how incredible that like you loved that, you
loved that part, you loved being mom, you loved being
and then you had this tragedy happen, I mean literally
and you then you went on to Now you're like
just thinking about what you could do next.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
What what's great is I could go in to this
thing which they had asked me before, but it just
will timing. Everything in life is timing. And you know,
I didn't want Hannah on at a young age because
I just know that would be my it was my decision.
I didn't want it to you know, affect her future
a lot. Yeah, and uh but I got by the
(18:36):
time I went on, you know, she was eighteen or so,
you know, and I didn't have a husband, so I
didn't have to worry. I could just I wasn't Missus Medley,
I wasn't Hannah's mom. I was I could just be
me right, just to Rinda.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Right, it didn't matter, and you could experiment with like
finally you had this freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Huge freedom. Yeah, and it was very therapeutic for me.
And you know, I got some of it right and
I got some of it wrong, but it was okay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, well that's life. You got some of it right,
you get some of it wrong. And then I mean
they tell you, like, because I'm in such a different stage,
they tell you in parenting, the most important thing is
to repair, like when you make a mistake, when you
you know, and so I always am going back, like
you know, I mean a mistake, but as long as
you can own whatever it is, and then as long
as you also grow and grow.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And it was so nice to like have you know,
I think that was for a nice for me. I
just could be my authentic self and I wasn't so
concerned if everybody liked me, because you know, there is
a thing when you're married and you're raising children. It's
not a facade, but you're you're always making sure you're counting,
and you're making sure that everything is good and straight
(19:45):
and correct and doing the right path. And don't totally right.
You goof up for one day, you torture yourself for
a week, right.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, like the biggest mistake, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Basically I live peezer anyway. Come from an ethnic family,
you know, my family's Polish and Italian, so you yeah,
so it was nice to just be able to grow
in that part. And you know, it was really nice.
Tell you what, was really a beautiful thing for me
because I hadn't done it for I never really worked
very long in the corporate work world. I worked in
(20:19):
fashion for about two years in the Macy's program and
then in the showrooms Liz Claiborne, and then I got
married and that was I went where my husbands went,
you know, where my first husband lived all over the world,
so I would go where he worked. He was an
investment banker. So it was really nice too to just
make money again. Like the first time I saw the
(20:40):
check from NBC, I was like, what would you look
at that?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You know, I actually just got my free paycheck from
doing this podcast. And I sent my husband a picture
and I put it on our corkboard because I haven't
had a check, I haven't made I mean, I was
a teacher for years and years. Now I have a
nonprofit and now I'm doing this, but I make no
money in my nonprofit and as a teacher, I didn't
really make any money and now I find but I
(21:05):
at least I was contributing financially. Not that I feel
like I have to, but it just feels so good. Good, Yeah,
it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah. And I was like, this is so good. And
then when you know, it just it was a really
great confidence builder. It was a really great way to
get work through my grieving period because I had a
platform to talk about it. And not only that, how
many people, well what amaze me without knowing it because
I hadn't been a houseway for how people really you know,
(21:35):
gravitated towards it and wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Because because nobody knows what to say when you're grieving,
no something to be a widow.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I remember this woman wants at Elios. I was at
Elos after Richard died. I was sitting at the having
like a dinner at the bar because I was by myself, right,
and a woman came to set next week, She's probably
in her eighties, and I started talking to her. I said.
She said, oh, I lost my husband two years ago,
so I'm a widow. I said, oh my god, I
lost my husband too. You know. It was like like
(22:04):
a happy and oh, like you're like me and I
you know, this was thirteen fourteen years ago, and I said,
so I'm a widow too. She said, oh, no, you're
not a widow. You're far too young to be a widow.
That's just a tragedy, you know, she said, I have
My husband was ninety when he died. So that's the
process of life. So I think it's not only hard
to talk about grief, but I think it's a very
like there should be a different word for a young widow.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's true, that's a true aging word.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, it is. Visualize a widow you see an older
woman or an older man.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, you were young and you had a child, and
there were.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
A lot of people out there that lost their partners
at a pivotal time in their life. It wasn't time.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I just had a great idea, since I know you've
written your memoir, but you should write a book on that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yes, well, I should write it Carol's book What Remains
right right, right?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
But it's just because I know, I lost my best
friend recently and she was forty four years old, and
there's like, you don't there's there's nothing to say.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like you know, and and it's not like you
can just say it's a wrinkle in time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right, right, And it feels in that moment like it's
never going to get better. And then but you have
all this time ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Of you, because hopefully not so much ahead of you, right,
I planned with them, right. Funny, right now, I have
elder parents, and I talk a lot amongst my friends
because we have, you know this helping them through this period.
And yeah, that's ninety and my mom's older, and of
course at some point they're not going to be part
(23:36):
of my life. But having gone through what I went
through with Richard and really understanding for me anyway that
it really is just the body that leaves.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Like you still they're always with you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, truly truly keep a connection if you're open to it.
And I had that conversation with my parents, who are
stouch Catholic, so you really don't talk about anything, you know,
right right right, like I'm okay, they'rer and it was
it was nice to uh, because I've gone through it.
I actually had a real comfort in speaking to them
about it openly, which I actually think has helped me
(24:14):
kind of quell the panic of them leaving me physically.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I mean I'm in that panic right now, and
I was during this period. And then even with my friend,
I was given this book called Signs Yes and how
it's amazing and how there's all these moments where they're
right there with you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But isn't it wild when you read that book how
true it is and if you actually ask, you know,
for a sign or act in a certain call, you
really do see it, Like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm obsessed with psychics, so I did. I meet with
lots and I really enjoy it and mediums and all
that kind of stuff. It's like a huge part of
my life. I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I love that too. I always think it'd be a
good it'd be a good time in my life to
try to can I I do see someone like that
with Richard, because I think he would come to me.
Now for a while I didn't want him.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I have such a great person for you. She's in Australia.
I'll give it to you after. She's incredible, beyond beyond,
beyond beyond. Yeah, if you're interested, I don't mind going.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I'm proud of my badge. I feel it's a badge
of honor being And I think, what's a housewife? Always
a housewife? Like I'm very proud of people are like
by the real housewife. I'm like, that's right, because there's I.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Feel that way too. I mean that's how I would feel.
But I know that sometimes when you've done something that's
so hugely successful and then you go on to do
other things that are also hugely successful and incredible, sometimes
you know it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Difference between your dad and someone like me. Like your
dad was just a great actor period, Okay, he just is.
He's a great character actor. He's just a great walk.
I wouldn't have gotten all the other things if it
weren't for it, Like it's the chicken in the egg
what came? So I only really got my radio show
because I was a Bravo Or do Appeyers because I
was a Bravo? Or whatte my book because I was
(25:59):
a brav You know what I mean. So I'm a
real believer that you have to, you know, really be
appreciative of how it began, how life.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, totally. Are you still close with some of the
people from your cast?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh yes, I mean we've I've known these women for
right your years, you know, a little bit more dispersed,
you know. Ramona's not in the city so much. She's
more in Palm Beach.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
She's wild and is here.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And there, but she's on Torala. But we always stay
in touch.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Right right and any Are you close with any of
the women from other cities?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh my god, Yes, I'm like a housewife whisper. That's
so good. Like I have friends with all of them. Yes,
I love I love a good housewife.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Max.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's it's like I say that, they're like we're like
a zoo, you know, great zoo in each cage has
a different set of Animal and yeah Ultimate Zoo Keeper. Yeah.
I think it's like for the Circus.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
When you get a really good season and you get
women that really, you believe what you were saying, care
about each other even with the stuff, because everybody has stuff.
Everyone has things everyone and also it's you. You're different
personalities and you're coming together. That's when it's like magic.
Like there are some that are hard to watch because.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's just like like baking a great cakes a little
bit more than others. You know, the flower may be
a little bit heavier than the two eggs, but you
need them, you need the Everyone brings a little ingredient
to the cake, right, Yeah, I guess that slap on
the frosting.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, there should be some crossover,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well that's why those Ultimate Girls trips were fun.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I saw the one at.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The Manor.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah it was I mean was.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think that was an epic cast And you know
what's very interesting about that one. After that, Tama went
back to work. Phaedra went back to work.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Is the best a queen she is? She she is incredible.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, when you see your back on TV, you think yourself,
how could she have never not been on TV. I
know she is.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
She's laugh out loud, funny and also just like shady
and the perfect way.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I love her so much all the way show her
and Eva are. They're stunning on TV, but in real life.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I know, like I know Eva. I remember seeing her
on America's Next Top Model. I mean I used to
watch that show. Yeah, yes, yeah, no, that was such
a good.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Like I said, I know this is gonna sound weird,
but is it a burden to be this beautiful? Like
you do? Want to stare? You know, it's kind of
like looking at a doll, you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Know, totally. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean it's but it's
it's it's it's amazing when you guys all get together.
That's why they should do a Traders of like all Stars,
they should do an all Star Traders. Well you never Traders.
A Trader's a Trader's Girls trip.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think a crossover is a success even before starts.
People just like to see because people don't really believe,
you know, what we are. Like I said before, we're
kind of like Disney characters. People don't believe that we
all really know each other. So like I'm gonna tell
you something. You walk down the street and if you're
with one or more housewives, either from your own franchise
(29:17):
or another, people get overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
They're like, yeah, I'm sure it's freezy, like they'd love
to see you on your own, but if they see
three of you together, it's truly like seeing a white leopard.
That's about I had the experience just in a restaurant
in Beverly. I was overcome, and I was.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Always wild that these women are exactly the way you
think they're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Be, exactly exactly. And I remember like one of them
was like, really not that nice to me. I went
over and I was like hi, you know, and she
just turned around, and I was like, that is exactly
how I would have like how I would have imagined.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
They were all so nice, Like everybody was really so nice.
And I loved Dallas and I'm sad that that's.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Not on anymore. I really like understand why they took
I just know it's so weird. I just saw one
of the Dallas girls the other day, and I've got
to tell you, I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I loved it. I loved Dallas there. I I you know,
New Jersey's hard for me, just because they're so mean
to each other. There's like people on it that I love,
Like I love Margaret.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And she's one of those women, the other strong characters. Yeah,
you know, you don't even have to like a housewife
to want them on the house waves, they know, you know,
like Teresa is just great TV. I don't know what
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I'm watching it right right, I have the opposite. I
cannot like it's just it's so like the whole thing.
I mean, I don't know her at all.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't know these people. I'm a fan, except I
know Margaret a little bit. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It's hertcat. But Marbar's exactly the way you expect her
to be, exactly, this is exactly the way you spect right,
you know. I think the last couple of seasons were tough.
But Teresa's a character and she's great and you.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Know, yeah, no, she's obviously I'm watching it. I'm enjoying
watching her, you know. And and and also she seems
like a really great mom.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Amazing is yeah, beautiful, you know, no one can take
that away from her. Boy, because those girls are beautiful
and they're each very successful and they love their mother.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, and so like that to me, you look at
that and you think, well something that that to me
is like, Okay, well you know, she loves her kids
and she's a great mom and so you know, and
but it's like it's just like madness. I'm just like,
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That becomes less relatable.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think, well, you know, they couldn't. There was nowhere
to go with that in the end, right, Yeah, you know,
I really thought last year after the reunion was so
caustic and stuff. I didn't think I think I thought
they would do it then, but I was surprised that
they went on for a whole nother year and they
kind of didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, yeah, because then it just becomes like you're like,
it's almost like I don't know, but I feel like
the thing about the Housewives for for for me at least,
is that it just like you you get to escape.
And I always love, you know, looking into other people's lives.
I think it's so interesting the way different people live and.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Looking into different cities, because yeah, how would you know
how a woman lives in New York City? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've decided I want to move to Salt Lake City.
I told my husband, you know what, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So funny you say that, I said that. I said,
that's a college that called into my show today. I said,
from Salt Lake City. I said, I've never thought i'd
say this, but I'm dying to go to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I go to Park City every year because my kids.
We take our kids skiing there and I immediately go
to Meredith Mark store. I pray that I'll see somebody
I walk. It's it's such a great and we have
a lot of friends during the pandemic that moved from
LA to Park City and it's such an incredible life. Yes,
I just said, I mean I would never leave Oli. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Women are very very glamorous.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Very glamorous, very yeah, and like even if on TikTok
some of the like Salt Lake City influencers, it's like,
you know, they're so they're getting these amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
They're a little Dallas, right they are.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
They are. It's interesting, You're exactly right. Maybe that's what
took over. But it's such a great I mean, there's
so many amazing women that have come through and been through,
Like on our television.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I loved I thought they I really enjoyed it, and
I was sad not to see them come back. Was
I love Dubai.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I love to Dubai too. I loved it and I
loved Dubai. And Chanel was on your season of Traders, and.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
She was a great character, very just saying what kind
of stays and what kind of goes? Isn't it There's
no real rhyme or reason to it.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
No, And it's interesting because I don't. I mean, that
was like you're seeing like such opulence, Like the life
style in Dubai is crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And again it's really like that because I've been like
three or four times and everything.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Is just over the top, right, I want to go.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I went to a very big party in Dubai, just
someone's house for dinner or dinner party in Dubai, and
we walked in through the gates and it was just beautiful,
like a building. I thought, oh god, that's nice. It
was all glass. I look at that, their whole buildings round.
I guess the guy goes, oh, no, that's just where
they keep their groad there.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And is it really that hot? It feels like it's
like so hot all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Desert. Yes, it's really that hot.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's not even like even in the winter it's cold.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Bigger, better, faster. You go to someone's body, you know,
most people have a little tanned cavita or your thrilled.
You know that's everything's just bigger. And you just wonder
where there's all this money coming from that they.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Should live there. I would like big tins of caviar
at all times.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Right, it's so good, and the women dress up and
the women are, yeah, stunningly beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I know, I want to visit. I've never been. I've
never been there, and it seems like after watching that show.
That's the other thing is I wonder like how it
does first.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Pick because it's like going to Disney. It's so different
from what we understand. And I had never really, you know,
spent a lot of time the first time I went
over there, and I remember I saw a group of
these Persian women sitting at the burge and they look
like something out of it, like a book, you know
what I mean, you decided like one of those books
(35:42):
when you were a little with that beautiful black hair
and the gorgeous skin.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Right, it was just I'm like dressed like perfectly.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, dressed immaculately and just such such women.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I know, I wonder if it'll come back because it
was such a good It was so good. There are
different ones when I'm like, oh that I'm sad that
that's over. And there are some cities. Could you ever,
what was there a city that you think that like
they should do next?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You know, I believe I agree with you. I think
they could bring back Dallas. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I love Dallas, such.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
A great city, and it's a city and the women
are just such a cute who yeah, just such a
great sense of humor. They're like body a bit, you
know what I mean. I would have never have thought
Salt Lake City would do well, Like when I first
came out in like Selling City, what the hell is that?
So you just never know. Maybe a Housewives of uh
(36:41):
what about Housewives of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh, that would be so good because there's this whole
culture there of like people that are way off of
the street.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, that would be really good in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Like that would be really good. Like and there's a
whole there's a huge community out there, like the people
who live like off the street that you know, we're.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Super in these communities of huge houses. I've been there.
You're like, wait, what this is Las Vegas?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Do you think that like all the women, some of
the women, it feels like their houses aren't even real,
you know, like it's like do you I wonder if
people feel like they have to like maybe pretend instead.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Of well, I think there's a lot of in life
in general. It definitely only shows. There's I always say,
there's the first season glow up right.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The teeth. It's always the teeth and they.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Look totally different.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You're like, always the teeth.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
They're always like twenty pounds in er new teeth and yeah,
you're like, wow, you had a great summer. And there's
definitely a pressure to keep up. Yeah, and you can
fall into it, and you've got to be careful because
you know, you can end up spending everything you make
trying to keep up and then ulfilling prophecy. Right, yeah,
because if you're not sort of prepared, because everybody eventually
(37:56):
goes yeah you know and it's done like this, yes, right,
you have to be ready for that day.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But then like there's always the chance that then you
come back, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
The great thing about if you're in good favor with
Robo and NBC and stuff. They always I always say,
I'm like the Jack in the box. I you know,
they put they put me on the shelf for a year.
So then I come back out and do an Ultimate
Girlship and I go back on the shelf and they
wind me up and they come out, you know what
I mean. So you're always doing something with NBC. It
really I mean, I know this sounds corny and people
(38:28):
are gonna believe it, but it is like you're part
of a family. Yeah, I was so hap I saw
that when Peacock picked up, you know, the show. I'm
trying to get up off the feet for Bluestone Matter,
because you want to keep it in the family. Right,
there's no learning curve, right, you know exactly can and
talk to them and ask them questions and learn from them,
and you know they're always very receptive about that.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Can you tell us more about that show?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, you know, we're developed. I've developed a show and
Peacock is involved right now and we're trying to get it,
you know, up and going and cast and hopefully cameras
getting the cameras up sometime in the summer.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'd love to be on it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Okay, I think it's important because people miss they sincerely
miss Bluestone Manner.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Do you still have the fish in the room?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Of course? And Andy has won a watch Rabbits Live.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I brought one to watch Rabbits Live. He's got it.
It's hug up in the in the main room.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh my gosh, I mean, and that's another cultural phenomena
thing like with Andy was like, can we have one
of your fish for the watch rapp Is Life room.
I was so honored. You would have thought that he
asked me to give him his first first baby.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Also like that was like that, you know, he carried.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
It back in the back of my car.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think about your kitchen and at Blue Stowe Manner
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The beauty of the Beast kitchen.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's such a good kitchen and you're making lasagna.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That happens weekly. See that's you know what I did
my kitchen a blue No matter of this Marshall Watson,
who I'm very close to, but he's you know, probably
much more fancy than me. He's like, what are you
feeling for your kitchen? I said, I want it to
be like a beauty in the Beast kitchen. I want
to be able to drag a dead animal in there
and chop it up on the counter.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you did it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I said, you want to accomplished schedule. I don't want
anything cute. I want heavy, thick, you know, like a
working kitchen you see in Newport from nineteen oh two.
And I it's so, it's a working kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You should like it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's it's like Graceland.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You should do like.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's like a very it's an iconic, an iconic place
for people would come visit.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Now, that would be my dream if I could just
get up there. You know, it's such a it's such
a crazy thing. Every time I get up there to
take a week, something comes up and I'm back in
the city real time.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
How long does it take to get up there from
the city.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's nothing. It's like like a little under two and
a half hours. But it's a beautiful drive because you
get right on the Taconic, you get off in Millbrook.
I stop and go to the diner there and then
mentally I'm kind of home, even though great or so
or maybe forty Yeah, thirty about thirty. But it's just
such a It's not like going to the Hamptains, which
is an arduous yeah, highway drive. This is a beautiful drive,
(41:14):
so it's like enjoying it. Read something. I don't go
now because it's just too cold and dark and I
don't do well in that. You know, at least in
the city, what it's like this, you can still cop
in a cab. You can still go see your friends
one way.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You just like walk down the street in the city
the house. No, no, no, no, I get that. Thank
you so much for joining me on another episode of
What in the Winkler. Please tell a friend to listen,
like it, follow it, subscribe.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank you,
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