March 7, 2022 • 52 mins
This is the moment we’ve all been waiting for… the most anticipated guest in Whine Down history: Jana’s boyfriend Ian makes his podcast debut!
We have a LOT to ask him, and Jana’s friends Shawn Johnson and Andrew East stop by to share the real story of how Jana and Ian met… because they were there!!
Plus, Shawn and Andrew share some incredible tips on how they make their relationship last!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.
I think one of the coolest things is leaving therapy
and then seeing you. I was surprised she was like
out there with you today. Well, she's so cute because
I think now that like she knows that, like we're
comfortable knowing that we share her She's like, I think
(00:22):
you want to go out this. She's like, let's just
see who's in the waiting room, and then you and
then you weren't there. So I was like, Amy, you
have to see these videos. I was like, I'm so
sore because I started dance with herself. So I was
showing her the videos because you know, She's just like,
it's so great to see you know, dance bring you
so much to joy. And I'm like, well, I'm in
a lot of pain right now actually, but I'm so
(00:45):
pumped because it UM. I didn't know that they were
announcing it that day that so I was just like,
oh my gosh, okay, but no, I am doing a movie.
Me and Mario Lopez are co executive executive producing and
starring in um untitled Mario Janna movie. But we we
(01:07):
dance in it. So it's been so fun to learn
these dances and um, yeah, when we all decide on
a title and how does that work? Well, there was
a title, but then like they have to go back
because then that they didn't like the title. So now
it's just we're trying to figure it out right now.
So I actually had a title call yesterday. Yeah I know,
but Katherine went came to the studio to watch you dance.
(01:29):
Yeah I was. I mean, you're good, um for not
being a dancer. Thanks, You're very good at dance. That's
like those like someone else just gave me a really
great backhanded compliment the other day. Was that what mine was?
I'm sorry, no, no, but you know what I mean.
It's one of those I can't remember it. Oh man,
oh oh, I remember it was about dancing. The choreographer.
(01:50):
He goes, so I remember watching your Dancing with the
Star stuff, and he goes, We're just going to focus
on your your top half because and I was just like,
oh okay. It was like so kind of but then
I remember like Glad yelling at me, be like a
stronger legs, and I'm like I can't. So I'm just like, yep,
(02:11):
focus just on my you have strong legs. So yeah,
but they like they're like Bambi when I dance. Okay,
And I've also learned I can't to hip hop, so
there's that really. Oh and my boyfriend also came to
the studio and he came during the hip hop stuff
and I kept being like, for some reason, the hip
stop move. But he is here, So I feel like,
(02:36):
what you're staring at him? What he done? Done? Done?
Should we have him? Come on? Ian, he's so nervous.
I love it. Come on, you don't have to. That's
a thing like I'm not am I forcing you to
do this? Okay, because it's clear, make sure. But he
(02:59):
knows she's not forcing it. I'm not forcing him to
do this, but he's gonna come stary in the middle. Yeah,
come on, you got this? Okay, Hey, everyone welcome. I
chinnelli on wine down nervous. Yeah, he got it. He's
(03:20):
this is are you bringing back you? Like? I feel
like I'm watching me podcasting. It's it's uncomfortable, I understand. Um,
So everyone wants to know the gymnastics story. So do
you want to give the gymnastic story? Um? The gymnastic
story before that? Okay? Um, when we met at Urban Air.
(03:48):
I think you asked me if I knew you? Well actually,
and we gotta go back back, so we'll tell that story.
Tell the story. How much of the gymnastics am I telling?
Like we seeing me before you even saw me at
Urban Air? Okay, okay? Trying to follow it to So
I saw a hot mom, very aggravated with her child.
(04:14):
Two children, but one was sitting on the floor trying
to tie her shoes or put her shoes on, and
and the hot mom was just not having it. Hot
mom turned out to be Jane. So then a few
days later, then go ahead, about a week later, Um,
we had been introduced at Urban Air. So I walked
(04:36):
into Urban Air. I brought my daughter to a mutual
friends kid's birthday party, and across the room, I see
the hot mom who was aggravated with her child looked
even hotter. So nobody dresses up or wears leather jackets
doing a kid's birthday party. It was a Halloween thing,
and I wore a really cute like did you know
(05:00):
it was? I was comping cozy but it was like
I wore this cute little like spider jump suit and
then I was like wow, this isn't cute the little
low jacket. So I did, and I was in jeans
and a T shirt from the gym. So but then
it's okay. So then that was the hot mom and
then um, we're going to have Sean and Andrew on
so they can tell the rest of that story. But
(05:22):
do you have any questions for Ian because Mark's not here?
So this is good. It's a good like intern having Mark. No,
we don't need Mark on here, but not for the
first one. I don't think I can do. Okay, here's
something that before Sean and Andrew pop on which I
was dealing with something the other day. And the two
plus two things, Yeah, explain that. What do you what
(05:51):
do you want to explain? Like of rationale behind the
two plass two uh two plus teak was five. It's
basically like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like don't
sweaterver things. Don't get worked up about things. If somebody
tells you to plus to his five, fine, believe him,
move on. It does not matter what they say. How
(06:11):
you respond to people's on you, and so if you
want to argue with them, you can argue them all
day long. If they tell you Toplos to his five. Okay,
you're right, move on to the next thing. Hard. No,
it's so hard because I was like, tell it because
we were I was dealing with the situation could be
a co parenting situation and it could be. And he
(06:34):
was just like, what's two plus two? And I said four?
Hees no, it's not, it's five. And I was like, no,
it's not, it's four, jeez. And he's like, and he's
the math guy, like, you're like super smart at math.
So I was just like, but it's He's like, why
are you even You're wasting your time. Yeah, it's so hard.
(06:54):
I mean, that's so good. Good. Like now, I'm always
like especially with it's like with the kids, with like
my act, it's like two plass too, it's five because
it just doesn't matter. Why fight it? I remember it? Um, Okay,
I'm so glad Riley. I was going to tell you
that it's not Drew. I mean, it's not Dave. But um,
(07:16):
it's it's fine. I know. I was just like, I'm
just gonna let her go with this one. Um, but
we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna get
Sean and Andrew on and we'll tell the rest of
the story. We're back. So we have Sean and Andrew on,
(07:42):
so excited. Um, First of all, I just because I
remember when I was on it was just your podcast
at the time, right Andrew? And then what was it
called again? Direct? Direct? We directed? I'm sorry, but I'm
so a couple of things is ingrained in my brain now.
So but I came on your show, and I remember
(08:03):
you were like trying to convince Sean to have a podcast, right, yeah, yeah,
and I didn't. I failed that. So I just started
one anyway and said, hey, you have a podcast now, Sean,
and he started five days after I gave birth to Drew.
I was pissed. You were like, we need to record
a podcast today. So you did it without her permission
(08:25):
for real? Yeah? Yeah, well I will. I'll give this caveat.
I had agreed to doing a podcast. I had not
agreed to doing a podcast. Then, yeah, that's yeah, so
he took some liberties there. Why that why that timing?
(08:47):
Did you just like not think because this is like
that's such a man thing to do, like not to
recognize like the healing of like having a baby, and
there's no better time than to start right now exactly.
I got you freaking my guy gets it. But I
also agree to there's there's not a lot of logic
behind it. Was just, hey, this feels right. We're going
with the way Andrew operates is he's like, I have
(09:08):
an idea, it's started today, and then I literally chase him.
I'm like the person chasing him in business, just trying
to like make it look good. I mean I kind
of agree with that because that's kind of my mentality
to where it's like, you know, I think we're definitely
dreamers and we want to do it now. Like why
would you guys have always connected on this? You guys
just are like serial starters, which we could never finish
(09:31):
anything perfectionist. But um, well, so this is Ian's first
time being on wind down and he needs a little
I think he needs podcast period, holding holding a mic.
So I'm trying to teach him to like, you know,
first podcast, first podcast. It only makes sense. I was
(09:53):
hoping for this, Yeah, just for you guys, because you
guys are the reason why we're together. Yes, so technically Andrew,
that was that was all Andrew, because he's doing that.
Came over to me and he's like, what do you
think about in Janet? I gave Sean the nod I
like pointed about to you, and then I was like yeah,
(10:19):
and then I know. And then Andrew comes running over
to me and he's like, Okay, so there's this guy
here that I want you to meet, and he's over
there in the orange shirt and just so casually I
had like stared at him, you know, the last thirty minutes,
but I was and then um, I was just like,
(10:42):
well do you Is he interested in me? And like
this is such a typical guy thing, but you were
like I don't know. And I'm like, why didn't you
go to him first? Because now you're going to go
to him and what if he's like has a girlfriend
or not interested or like you know, I was Internet,
are done his due diligence there. I feel like you
and you and ud knew each other well enough, like
Andrew was aware you didn't have a girl. Also fun
(11:07):
story and probably killed me later for this. I remember
the first time Andrew met you Ian and he came home,
He's like, I have a man crush. It's this guy Ian.
And then every Saturday he's like I would ask him
like where are you going? Like the Navy seal everyone
(11:27):
and you and I vibe on the dreaming perspective things.
But Ian and I vibe because I showed up and
here I thought that I was like a pretty good
athlete in pretty good shape, and then I'm Ian, who's
quite literally at least twice as fit and athletic as
I am. But he also like puts. So you know,
I've been around natural talent athletes and that's one thing
(11:49):
Ian has that but he also works super hard, and
so I just immediately had a high level respect for Ian,
and I was like, all right, this is a dude
that I want to I was immediately attractive. I'm still
trying to appreciate that. No, I mean you guys, you
(12:11):
guys have your datter days on Saturdays. I feel like
we need to do something. Sean pays that, like they're
with wine Wednesdays. Absolutely, can it involve wine. Though we're
now working out, we're good, Like we're yeah, we can
work out and have wine on Wednesdays. There we go.
I'm trying to think what would a tally count look
like for the number of bottles of wine we've drank
(12:32):
with Jannah. I think it's over tin. What do you
think I've done that? I've done that in a week.
So we went through like justly remember going home and
I was like, I feel terrible. That was a fun night.
What then we were both doing handstands in your kitchen?
So did you do that? We still need to compete,
(12:53):
by the way, Yes, actually those today? That scares me.
What What did you say about the wine? You've never
had so much? What when we first started dating, I
had never had so much wine and salads of my
entire life salads, Yeah, you have the key wine. Yeah,
that's a salad. You feel good about drinking lots of
(13:19):
so Okay, a couple of things I did there? Um,
what has been the hardest part working together on this podcast?
Hold on? What? We can't just talk about Ian and
not have Ian talk about himself. It's not your interview,
but we're going to get there later. Right now, we're interviewing, y'all. Okay, Yeah,
(13:45):
we've got I've got plenty. You can interview Ian if
you want for the last part of this segment. You
can then interview the in. Okay, there we go, But
right now it's having a couple of things. Uh, I
feel like working together. It was difficult at first. It
still is difficult, but we've gotten so much practice at it,
so many reps that the most difficult things we've figured
(14:06):
out how to navigate or communicate around. So I think
it's getting better. But I think it's a huge honor, honestly,
to like get to know my wife and in like
a unique way that typically marriages don't. Like you don't
usually spend all day every day with your partner and
you don't really see how they are using their gifts
(14:28):
and talents on a day day basis. But with Sean,
I do. And yes, there's like annoyances that come with
working with your spouse, but at the end of the
day your opinionated. Yeah, but and you make things difficult.
But but do you think the difficult nos or the
difficulty and that like what she does is actually makes
(14:51):
it better? Yeah, Hunter, Yeah, it would be a train
wreck over here, but it still makes it difficult. May
see good about my side work. I would also add
something that we're still working on we have a really
hard time with. I'd say it's like the one issue
that we um probably will forever work on, just because
(15:11):
we both love to work so much is differentiating husband
and wife and then like coworkers. So it's hard like
if we're eating dinner at the end of the day,
that's usually when we're supposed to be husband and wife.
But if I had to ask him like a coworker
question or vice versa, it's hard to know who I'm getting.
So if he if he makes a critique, is it
(15:32):
like is this my is this my business partner critiquing
a business partner, or is this husband critiquing wife? Like
it's those lines get very very blurred and trying to
like distinguish what times and what parts of the day
we get either. I think it's for us been the
hardest part. But I think I'll ask us to do
(15:52):
you do you think, um, when you do have that disagreement,
is it hard? Because I know for me, like when
I worked with my like it was when we were
in it, it was hard to work, you know, and
be present and be authentic. Is it like, how do
you guys like kind of snap out of it or
is it just like are you able to be like, Okay,
we're working, like let's drop the emotion or whatever. Oh
(16:13):
like when we're in an argument. Yeah, yeah, no, that's
definitely the case. It's like we have to resolve like
personal stuff because we're like we're filming stuff this you
can't jump on a podcast and be pissed at each
other and then try to ask questions. And you know,
we've had it happened a few times where like we
aren't able to resolve it before we're supposed to do something,
(16:35):
and we're just like, we can't fake this and it's
not healthy to fake it. So we're just like we're done.
We're not going to do it today. I mean, that's
something that I wish I would have done because man,
and I'm like, because I'm like, then people here and
they're like, clearly they were at each other's that day,
you know, because you'll try to just keep going. Yeah,
it makes it worse because if you start getting used
to like faking that on camera. I don't know. I
(16:59):
think that that just plays into like the relationship when
you're off camera. But one thing is for sure, Janna,
you know, she sometimes she gets the business partner, sometimes
she gets the husband. But you can bet at the
end of the night she gets Rico Suave. Yeah, non
serious answer was coming out of that. Yeah, but you
(17:25):
know what I think is. I mean, obviously you guys
enjoy working together. You guys have found your your thing
and you know you've what's what are you guys gonna
be working on a book next? Hm? I'm still learning
how to read. So we have actually talked about doing
a book, but we have such a hard time even
like on our show of we want to make sure
(17:49):
we draw the line in the sand that we are
never trying to teach anything because we don't know it.
We truly don't. We don't know anything about like this
is how you should do marriage or this is how
you should do relationship. So trying to figure out how
to write a book where we're not trying to teach something, well,
that kind of goes into my next thing is what
is one thing that you guys, like, what is it
(18:09):
that you're wanting to offer other couples? Like is there
something where it's like this has worked really well for
us and you want people to know that, or do
you just want people to like see fun and light,
which they'd see, but also like is there something where
you're like because we all learned something, yeah, we don't know.
You were not therapists, but we're still, is there something
that you guys do really well together that would be
helpful for other couples? Um? Well, I view all content
(18:35):
on the range of like education on one in entertainment
on the other. We definitely try to keep things more
light and enjoyable and on the entertainment side of things. Um.
But I would say our goal with like what we're
trying to offer is really just be a starting point
for conversations uh the other couples can have. So like
(18:55):
we gotta we went on this tour, this like sixth
day tour, um, which is so fun, like get to
meet people, but hearing the stories of how they would
listen to a podcast episode and they had been in
an argument and then we mentioned something that like touched
the nerve or or like sparked a laugh and then
snap them out of that because you know, sometimes we
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need an argument. Alls you need is like a third
party perspective to get you out of that rut. So
if we could be that and and provide that for people,
then I would count that as a huge one. I
think we're also slightly like blindly going into it and
navigating it. Um. We started the show because we got
(19:37):
really annoyed with the perfection that press tries to portray
relationships as and we got really tired of then painting
this picture that if you don't do your relationship a
certain way, it's not going to work. And we believe
that every single relationship is different and can overcome anything,
like if that relationship like once, like it's just different.
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Every relationship is to friends, and I think for us,
we just have had a really good time learning how
each individual relationship works. And we've just learned a lot
from other people that has like constantly helped our relationship.
Do you guys have boundaries and like what you share
and what you don't share? Yes, yeah, kind of. I
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think we don't talk about anything that we haven't already
worked through, So like we can't be working through something
live on a show. It has to be resolved and
we have to be like in a good space, and
then we don't. We don't get like raunchy, like sexual
that stuff always kind of like you don't really like
(20:45):
talking about that, do you? Like? In general, I'll talk
about it with friends and stuff. I don't care as
far as like I feel like to a certain extent,
you can only share so much your life before your
life becomes the world and not your own up. And
like we try to keep at least that to ourselves. Sure,
(21:05):
I think we would have way less boundaries if it
wasn't for Sean. And I'm thankful for Sean to set
the boundaries. But like for me, anything that happens, I
like view it as part of the plot. It's like, oh,
this is an unfolding. I mean again, but also I've
learned that that is can be harmful to a relationship,
(21:28):
having that much detail out because it is you were more,
you're you're picked apart more, you have more eyes to
pick apart things because once you say it, you put
it out there, you can't really get it back. But
but you could probably test to this, tell me if
I'm wrong. It's also you have more loyalty, Like there there,
(21:49):
you definitely open yourself up. But that's the whole thing
with being vulnerable right where it's like, yeah, you can
get crushed, but you can also be supported in a
way that you otherwise couldn't be. Right. No, very very yeah,
I mean you have super loyal fans. Yeah they're very loyal. Yeah,
very very very loyal for sure. But again the people
that don't know me or don't know certain things, like
(22:11):
they just see like a headline. Then that gets picked
apart because I was too open or to this or whatever,
or I misspoke or I you know, said, I mean
there are some things that were spoken about last podcast.
I'm like, man, I should have thought about before I spoke.
I use my words a little differently, you know. So
I think that can be. It's just hard when you
put things out there. Yes, But I also think that's
(22:32):
super super refreshing because people like to play this, people
like to believe in act like we're all perfect and
we should know exactly what we're saying when we say it,
and we should know everything in the world and how
to be politically correct and how to make everybody happy
and when we're all human and we don't. So yeah,
I think that's really refreshing and speak your mind. Yeah,
(22:54):
And I have a question for you, Um, is it
is it worrisome to you that I am so open um?
Not exactly and I knew that kind of getting involved
in this, but you haven't really shared too much about it, right,
Like is there something where you're like, hey, like this
(23:16):
isn't like off boundaries or like, don't talk about our
relationship or because I mean I haven't. I haven't really,
I've been pretty like, um, I don't know I've ever
been involved. I don't think about that now all of
them tonight should I? But I mean I said I
was going to be more private in this relationship when
(23:38):
it came to issues or things that came up because again,
like I saw the but again, I do also believe
that people have issues in every relationship. You know, like
just like you guys. You guys didn't deal with the
O our neighbors stuff for our stuff, but hey, you
have your own stuff, and it's refreshing to hear that
you guys fight. It is I love you. They're so
(24:00):
beautiful and happy and like it's it's I don't know,
it's kind of makes me feel better. Well, I think
the majority of people like to hear that. But you're
always going to have those those critics. You're always going
to have those people that are like, you didn't do
it perfect, and I'm going to attack you because you
didn't do it the way I think you should have.
But I don't think that that should hold you back either.
I've even shared that too before, where One of the
(24:21):
reasons why I was really excited about this is kind
of like what you just said, Janna Um. When we
got engaged, I asked one of my close friends here
in Nashville. I was like, Okay, what do I need
to like prepare for with marriage? What arguments, like, what transition,
what hardships? And she was like, oh, me and my
husband have never fought. And I was like, Okay, that
(24:42):
makes me feel terrible because like we had argued. And
I think what's refreshing is like having all of these
conversations with people who have been together for however many
years or overcome whatever, or gone through separation happily or
married like everything. It's just relatable and it makes you
feel like, Okay, I've got a that I can use
(25:03):
to get through it. I guess I'm just saying out
loud though, because I do think there there's a stipulation
in my mind of like it's almost like gossiping about
yourself can happen where you can just unfiltered share of things, right,
And we've done that in the past on social media
and we've learned from it. And like I think sending
whatever issue or conflict or problem you're having through an
(25:25):
initial like filter of you're dealing with it can be
really helpful and all because you want to talk about
issues with friends with the hopes of resolving them or
learning something new or you know, with the positive outcome
in mind, not with like the echo chamber of oh,
you know what, Sean said this to me and I'm
(25:45):
talking to my friend about it and he's like, I
can't believe she did that to you, and she sucks
like it should never be And so you don't want
to You don't want to create that in your life.
You know what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Makes sense? Ye?
Have have? Yeah, how is dating a celeb been for you?
(26:12):
It's been different. It's a it's been really good. But
I don't really get too caught up in the limelight
of stuff. Like every now and then she's been like, hey,
we were on this, and I'm like, okay, I just
don't I don't see it. I don't look it up.
I don't you know I met every once in a a
while she's just like, oh, I just have like the
top song in the world for like four days. I
(26:35):
will I will say that was pretty cool. It was
actually really cool. So and she downplayed it way too much,
and she tries to, you know, make my things that
I do way more important than what she's doing. I'm like,
you have the best song, the number one song and everything,
and it's like every couple of hours, I would look
it up again and make sure that the time kind
(26:56):
of scrolled through to make sure that it was updated,
and then I would take a screenshot and send it
to her and like, well, it'll it'll be different by
you know, tonight, or be different by tomorrow morning. Well,
I like up three five in the morning, it's still there,
so like, well, it didn't change. And so it went
on for a couple of days, but it was it
was very cool to see that. Um, that was sweet
of you. Otherwise I want to say I would say
one thing. Okay, it's just like, oh my gosh. So
(27:18):
I have another friend in a very similar position to you, Jianna,
and you both are kind of going through a very
similar jurney at the same exact time. And I almost
like cry the other day watching her journey because her
new boyfriend is like celebrating her for the first time
and she's never had that. And then watching you and
ian like you're being celebrated and you're being allowed to
(27:39):
be who you are, and I think it's it's just
really really sweet and really cool. You have the number
one song in the world. Are you kidding me? Don't
don't play that had but um, you know, it was sweet.
And when I told him, I was like, never like,
has anyone like anyone that I was ever with like
sent you know, like even my acts, like I never
(27:59):
like got celebrated like when things were like that. So
I always downplayed it because I'm like, oh, it must
not be a big deal, you know. So it's it's
a huge deal to have the number one so okay, okay, okay,
but it was. It was very it was very sweet,
and I, you know, I really do appreciate it because
(28:19):
you know, he need's like I want to celebrate it
with you, and I'm like, I just again because I have,
I do downplay it because it wasn't I mean, you know,
it wasn't important or celebrating. Have you heard of Beyonce
in common? You guys are on the same level. Okay, Okay,
(28:40):
but no, actually you're not. You're higher than beyond everybody.
But I think he's done. I think He've done a
good job though handling things. And I mean because people
were calling him a trainer, He's like he's a Navy
seal like people, it's like a poor guy was labeled
as a trainer. That a trainer, not that a trainer
isn't a problem, but it's a Instagram had like me
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at the gym, like andrewing, like, why do I detail
what I do for actual livings? So I just I mean,
it's okay. We we did a video jay where we
had to google ourselves to see like what was right,
and the website put Andrew's professionist family member, he's along
for the ride. And I but you do show up
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to the gym sometimes and guys will give you a
hard time, right, I was like, you know every Saturday
morning stop really, yes, you better, you better fix this.
I don't know. It's all good things, but it's but
it's because there's headlines and stuff. Oh no, no, it's
just it's been a it's been a fun trip, especially guys.
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I mean, you work out. These guys um to have
fun and enjoy it and give each other a hard time,
and and we do that and no matter what it is,
I mean, you know, we've Trevor or Jamie whoever might be,
you know, hard time, whatever happened in the week or
the day and stuff like that. So yeah, it's been
a little bit different for that. Um, but everybody's kind
of acknowledged obviously dating Janna, and they were all excited
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because I think all of their wives all follow Janna
as well. So it's kind of like, hey, she had
number one song and they'll find out because they didn't know,
and then they'll tell of anyone Like I know, dude,
it's been the hardest part about dating me because love
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that that changes the lave hardest part about dat. You
can be honest too. We're gonna get there. Yeah, I mean,
there's just it's two very different personalities and two very
different lifestyles. Like some of the things in the beginning,
you know, my background of I mean even the little
things like me getting up at three four in the morning,
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that's not for me. We can't be doing that every day.
It's like she might be up a little bit later.
I like to get about eight o'clock. You know, just
little things like that where it's kind of get used
to each other. Um, And I guess that's not my boundary,
but it's more of just kind of understanding like her
needs my needs. Um, we didn't address those right away
and that was definitely a difficult thing to get to.
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Once we finally got to, it was kind of like,
all right, well I need this in my day in
my week, and she needs this in her day in
her week. And I think once we we went on
a very long walk one day we did. We went
like a four hour walk and just a long walk,
and well we just I think like when you start
in a relationship, you know, you like he was just
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trying to make me happy. I was dealing with, you know,
being in a healthy relationship post which I think that's
also hard for him because he's like I'm not your
ax um. So I think like that's been really difficult
on him because, like my therapist says, she's like, you
gave him shrapnel without him like being in a war. Like, yes,
you were in a war a long time, but like
in this war, she's like, he's getting like shrapnel and
(31:58):
he wasn't a part of your war, but that's like
the leftover stuff. So like, you know, I think being
in something that is healthy now, like he has he's
like trying to differentiate the two and like letting someone
like in it's it's been like difficult for him because
I've tried to push him away so many times. She tried,
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I did. I did a hurricane hurricane Spartan race Andrew.
Andrew signed us up a hurricane heat Spartan race, and I, yeah,
we'll gladly never do that again, which was hard aware that, oh,
for sure, you're pushing me. It was more difficult mentally. Emotionally.
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We thought like I signed all the guys up for it,
and I was like, that's gonna be so cool. And
it was like advertise like the hardest race you could
you could ever do, and it basically said like you
need the mental grit of a Navy seal, dude, and
it was like, it turns out that from an actual
Navy seal, which was it was easier than expected, but
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it was a hilarious story. I do even so one
thing that I had to navigate with Sean, She's like
not our interview, no, no, but no, I like where
you going with this because I'm gonna I'm gonna turn
it back around after you say this, because I think
I know where you're going with that, I am hijacking
the interview. You are Ian, it's just not talking a lot.
So I got I'm trying. It's not about me, it's
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about you guys. So that that was exactly. Yeah, dating
Sean was like I loved her, right, and I knew
that I love Sean, but there's and there's the excitement
of dating, but then there's also like this layered excitement
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of she's like famous and people will stop her on
the street and they want to talk, and it's like
there's this level of excitement that comes with being in
the public eye. And it was I felt like I
needed to take a step back and be like, all right,
what part of me is interested in this relationship because
of that excitement versus the excitement of actually the love
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of Sean. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
if if you resonate with that at all, but that
was something that I had to Maybe I'm more shallow,
but you're also a college kid. Yeah that'd be way different. Yeah,
I don't I don't think I could have handled it
it twenty one or whatever, you guys got together twenty two?
Are you with me just because of my Instagram followers,
and I didn't know how many Instagram followers, you know
(34:34):
what I'm saying, Like now to his point, like do
you is it like do you love me for me?
Or do you love like obviously not gonna be like yeah,
actually because it's cool because you're famous. No. I mean
I told you in the beginning, I would have deleted mine.
I don't need it. It's not for me. It's you know,
half the time, it was like Andrew would come in
on my stuff, like Jamie would come on my stuff.
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You know, it's like us working out. It's about it.
It has been different as far as the notoriety, not
me obviously, but for her. I think the one that
I remember is like we were on the beach visiting
your mom and some girl just with her boyfriends, sitting
by themselves, no one around. We're walking past and the
kid pops up. He's like, hey, my girlfriend loves you,
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and I'm like, well, that's a different life. Yeah, Because
for me, I didn't have social media since two eight,
so I had been completely off of it and military
I'm just kind of very quiet and went about my
day and it's not like that anymore. What Okay, I'm
gonna flip the background. What is one thing that you
(35:38):
guys do better than I'm sure there's a lot, but
that um in the beginning of dating, you know, like
in our early stages, that you do better now or
you wish that you'd go back, or you tell us
like hey, like watch this, or like we do better now.
I think we communicate better. Yeah, I think I almost
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identifying patterns in marriage. Like we've been married six years,
so we've we've had the same argument about a certain
topic like forty times, right, So what is it? Can
you say what it is? Anything? Okay? What's what's one
of the ones that always keeps coming up? Ah? The dog? Honestly,
(36:24):
as ridiculous as that sounds, like it, I feel like
that's gotten better lately. What's up with the dog? Oh?
I just dogs are actual royalty to me. So like
I'm a psycho dog person. Okay, Like I said, A
and a dog, and I was like, you have to
get this dog because I just try to find dog homes,
dogs homes and and where's your stance dogs? But I
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like kind of view it as a dog. We're the same,
Like I love it, right, and I'm going to do
my best to take care of it. The dog will
sleep in the bed before I will, So that's literally
like my dog. It's kind of it has kind of
correlated to kids ish, where like Sean has the way
(37:11):
she expresses her love, and again I know this through patterns,
like seeing this over and over is through being like
hands on and always like being there to help, whereas
I'm kind of like, ah, you gotta figure it out,
go you can do it, you know. So is the
argument that Sean gets frustrated with you because you don't
treat the dog like she does, or you're upset because
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she treats the dog like royalty. The argument is that
I expect more of him he treats dogs, or it's
like with kids. I am definitely more of like the warrior,
and so I'm like, oh my gosh, you cannot let
her do that, or you can't she's gonna get hurt,
or she has to go to bed at a certain
time or whatever it might be. I'm just more like
(37:54):
I'm graduled on the moms. I hear you on the moms. Yeah,
the dog thing more una but shouldn't have grouped the
dog and the dog anyway? What we do now, is
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like we we have developed patterns where it's like, hey,
the morning with Sean, I shouldn't throw a bunch of
logistics her way because the past two hundred times that
I've done that, uh, it overwhelms her right Or like
at night, she really Sean really likes to debrief her day,
so I need a instead of jumping right into whatever
(38:36):
I want to do next, Like I should sit down
and have time with her to talk as opposed to
their being conflict in place of that, so that that
probably would be it. I don't I don't like getting
asked questions. Do you guys like that? For some reason,
it's like what are you doing? I'm like, I like,
you have my schedule? I don't know, Like just like
you and Andrew are the same human, don't ask me questions.
I'm like, you figure it out or look at my
(38:57):
calendar or I don't know. It's just like I'm like,
I got like a million other things in my head
right now. I don't have to ask questions. Yeah, Andrew's
biggest pet peeves if I'm like, what do we have
to do today? And here I don't know, I don't know.
(39:19):
He just doesn't want to questions freak him out too.
I can kind of tell her facial expressions. Now, it's
like I can tell when she's busier. There's a thousand
things going on her head. I'm like, I'm just not
gonna ask a question right now. That's good. I'm gonna
go out again. Well, I'm gonna go back and work.
But it's kind of like, I know when her face
looks like that, I can ask her a question. When
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it's not like that, I don't ask a question. That's kind.
But she does like to ask questions though, if I
really need to know them, like what's two plus two? Five?
Every time? We'll get there later. It's one of those
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things where we I was dealing with something the other
day and I was trying to have this person see
my reality, and Ian goes, what's two plus two? And
I said four? He goes, no, it's five. I'm like, no,
it's not poor, but like the other person's reality, it's five. Yeah.
So it's going, okay, okay, you're right, it's fine, let's
move on, and his mind is blown. Right, just six
(40:30):
years of us trying to figure out all in one
simple bathic version again. So now next time when you
guys go to a fight, so like if not that
we like have like I mean, we had like one
thing just because again it was like misunderstandings and not
speaking what we need, but like being like if there's
even like a little like tiff, it's like two plus
(40:52):
two and then it kind of like yeah, resets like that.
That's good. I like that, You're welcome, Thank you. I
do think most of our arguments come from a misunderstanding
of what the other person is trying to say. Well,
I think I promised we don't ask for what we need.
We're my thing is and I'm like, I'm not asking
you actually what I need. I'm wanting you to read
(41:12):
my mind. But I know what but it's like, yeah,
don't shake your head like that, Mr same if you
did the same thing to me. Um, But yeah, I
hear you on that too. It's it's it's you know,
but we're working on it. I think it's what Shaun
said earlier about um when you are asking like a
business question, but then you're getting a personal response from
(41:35):
man Andrew. You're asking a personal question which you might
get a business response from me Andrew. It's kind of
like what what mind frame are you, And it's also
how are you responding to it? So I may ask
her something with an intent in a certain way and
expect a certain response I'm looking for one, but she
may not be in the same mental state whatever it
might be that it's a good or bad men as
I'm saying, like whatever is going on in her head.
(41:55):
So if you have a business question that it's kind
of like where I guess a worker being with kids
for us, because our emotions get confused a lot when
we'll be working, and like when Andrew works, he goes
like completely void of all emotion and feelings. He just
goes stone cold, and our emotions get really confused when
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I come in as like wife where I've taken like
a breakout of the day, and I'm like wife and
I want to ask him something like wife to husband,
and he gives me a cold response that makes me
really upset when I'm expecting him to turn it off
and all of a sudden, husband, when he's in the
middle of his work day, thank you so much. I
am aware right now after are the two plus two?
(42:46):
That's what it was? I wonder if it is it simple?
Is it something as simple as saying like what do
you what response do you need as your husband or
is your or is your employee or as and or
is your coworker me like a little badge that you
just turn around, you know, like what response do you need?
(43:07):
You know, like, hey, I need you to like not
make a joke or whatever. I don't know because that
me asking that would come off as cold if I
was like, what do you need from me, husband or
because then I the crazy woman would be like I
expect you to know what I need and I don't
want to ask for it because I don't want to
ask my husband to give me love. Yeah, it's a
whole thing. Why don't you know what I'm thinking? Look
(43:29):
at Ian showing up all mature and freaking with with advice. Well,
it's like I do think there's like a stubbornness though
to to I guess I could generalize it as women,
but whatever, um people people know I think it's a woman.
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I really, I really, it's almost like a pride issue.
I don't want to tell him what I need because
I want him to give it to me, because I
then feel desperate. I'm like, I need to tell you
that I want to cuddle with you on the couch
like that makes me feel pathetic. Yes, in actuality, it's
actually a healthy thing to do. Yeah, it is the
right thing to do is to say, which needs really
(44:10):
hard because I know it'll be like, what do you
need dinner on the house And I'm like, I don't
want to have to tell you what I need done.
I want you to see you need to and how
I need to, you know all of it exactly. I
need the one box in the attic in the back
corner that's three seasons away. I gotta say, it's pretty
good that he's asking, what do you mean done around
(44:30):
the house? I hear you. But that is very that
is very sweet, totally and I love that. And it's
very sweet having said that. One thing that I did say,
there's still not rock right after um no, but I do.
(44:51):
I hear you. It's it's hard to be like can
you because then we feel like we're like naggy annoying,
But like you guys, guys are just they don't they'd
be like, okay, so absolutely, I'll caddle you like you
probably wouldn't think that was like if if me and
you know, if Sean Andrew whatever, like we were like,
can you please scuttle with me tonight? Does that seem needier? Like,
oh my goshly thanks for telling me. You've literally told
(45:11):
me that exact thing. Well, you get this way, but
like if I'm having a bad day or whatever and
I ask that, then I go all crazy and I'm like, well,
is he actually caddling me because he wants to? And
then I get all like crazy one. All right, well
so tell I mean, obviously our listeners know you guys,
(45:34):
but like where can they listen? Where can they follow?
One of my favorite TikTok's is when you guys changed
the car the seats in the car. That was hilarious.
I watched it like five times, so funny. But go
ahead give it all pretty much, Sean Johnson. That is
the best place to look for. Just google that You've
come across some stuff The East Family on YouTube. And
(45:56):
then we have a podcast called A Couple of Things. Yeah,
I'm so excited and we would love to come on
as well. I think we're ready to come on. We
do it in person, though, Yeah, come on over, come
onl coome on first and we'll drink drink Yeah, perfect,
(46:17):
all right, Well, thank you guys so much for coming
on the show. I appreciate it. Okay, see you guys soon,
Thank soon, Yes, please, thanks guys. Bye, Honey's Texas. We'll
figure it out with you all right. By guys. Didn't
(46:40):
you do the cross with thin? He beat everybody? Well?
That was a fun episode. How does that feel in
(47:01):
Haven't if your first mic in your hand, it's I
don't want to do with it. It's awkward, Yeah, holding
it very weird. I feel like I can only look
at you and I just kind of look at a
bit kind look at I just look at who I
was talking. Yeah. Is it coming from someone who had
like the hardest job ever? They don't have a camera
(47:22):
in my face or a microphone, had a gun? Very different.
Can I ask you one question? In the seal training
for is it called hell week? Hell week? What was
the hardest thing you had to overcome? Like they gass you,
they make you be underwater for four and a half minutes,
(47:42):
they like, what is like? What was the one thing
where you're like, because not many people like you said
pass the first round? Right? First phase in hell week?
Or is where everybody pretty much quits so forever? What's
the percentage that like first timers. Oh, um, I think
it's around between eighty five drop radar. I look at
(48:07):
it so um. I know the last class that went through,
I believe it was started with two and they finished
with seventeen guys. Wow. And was there like in that
week or the first phase, like where is there a
point where you were like this is hard or this
is going to make me drop? Um? I never I
think the guys that make it through don't ever really
(48:30):
have that go through their head. The thing for me
was the cold that was not what do you mean
by the cold? I mean you sit in the Pacific
Ocean in the middle of the night for hours on end,
just staring at stars and you're like, well, is this
ever gonna stop? So um. They try to get you
to a somewhat hypothermic state, and we had guys get
(48:52):
dropped of the program because they couldn't raise their body temperatures,
they couldn't control um their mind basically, And so that's
kind of the hardest part for me. Like the physical
stuff is just you work out and then you get
to eat. It's great. It's you know, most twenty year
old guys dreams is you work out all day and
it's a big boy scout camp for the most part,
(49:12):
and you get to eat every couple of hours. But
it was just a cold and you're constantly shaking and
you're just covered in sand head to toe for weeks
straight and you sleep. Uh do you get to eat
the whole time though? Or do they not like try
to prepare you for not eating and you don't sleep? Right,
you don't sleep. You get a time you get use
(49:35):
my handler. You get a time frame to sleep. Not
everybody does. UM. Once you kind of stop moving, your
body starts to shut down and try to recover. So
if you do sleep, once we wake you up, how
long do you get to sleep if you slept? I
don't remember the actual note. I think it was you
get a time frame of like two hours on Wednesday,
(49:56):
so it starts Sunday night. You don't know when it starts.
So basically the whole compound UM if you don't know.
It's in Cornado, California, so UM, a lot of Cornado
hears it. They hear the explosions go off and fake
gunfire blanks that's what they call him, and everything goes off.
Everybody knows is to start a hell week and that
lasts for a couple of hours and then it just
(50:17):
continues on for the whole week. And then uh so
you don't So how long? How many days did you
not sleep for? To start? You don't sleep for three
and a half days straight, I thinks what it is.
And then you get a two hour I think's two
hours two hours to sleep if you do, and then
you're done. After that you don't sleep again. So how
many days did you consecutively? Go send me a Friday
(50:39):
without sleeping? Wow, So you didn't take the two hours? No,
because I was scared about what would happen if I did.
Say that seems could be worse. So I knew. I
heard guys that win in you go into like this tent,
you gotta thank everybody's free. I was a winner. I
was a winter hell week. So I went through in November,
about a week or two weeks before Thanksgiving started. It
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was one of the coldest times in Coronado history, and
it was miserable. And the guys that got into the
tent to go sleep, when they would get woken um,
they would get you know, woken up in the morning
or whatever it was, they would quit right there because
they were too cold and too mentally out of it.
So I knew that I didn't want to do that,
(51:20):
take that chance. I don't think I could. Being cold.
The cold is the worst. I had a buddy all
of it sounds, who he he couldn't get his body
temperature up, so they had to drop him because he
wasn't mentally there. But he was one of the best
physical specimens I've ever seen. Like the guy was incredible.
But every time we go in the water, he'd come
out and he would be So we swallow a pill
(51:41):
that they take our temperature and like our core temperature,
and they scan us every time we come out of
the water to make sure see where we're in. If
you're too locally. That's a thing. That's crazy, that that's
mental though. Keeping your body, it's part of it is
because you can you can get into an ice bath
and it can be miserable, or you can kind of like,
(52:04):
all right, I can regulate with my thoughts now to
a certain extent an entire time. But once you get out,
if you're so if you're so cold and you can't
process what you're doing because sometimes you're you know, they'd
ask you to count to a certain number or whatever
and you wouldn't respond to it. So I mean guys
haven't do all the time. So well, thank you for
your service, You're welcome. Thank you for your support. Um,
(52:27):
then thanks for coming on wind down UM a few
minutes Bye guys, are you hye
Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.
I think one of the coolest things is leaving therapy
and then seeing you. I was surprised she was like
out there with you today. Well, she's so cute because
I think now that like she knows that, like we're
comfortable knowing that we share her She's like, I think
(00:22):
you want to go out this. She's like, let's just
see who's in the waiting room, and then you and
then you weren't there. So I was like, Amy, you
have to see these videos. I was like, I'm so
sore because I started dance with herself. So I was
showing her the videos because you know, She's just like,
it's so great to see you know, dance bring you
so much to joy. And I'm like, well, I'm in
a lot of pain right now actually, but I'm so
(00:45):
pumped because it UM. I didn't know that they were
announcing it that day that so I was just like,
oh my gosh, okay, but no, I am doing a movie.
Me and Mario Lopez are co executive executive producing and
starring in um untitled Mario Janna movie. But we we
(01:07):
dance in it. So it's been so fun to learn
these dances and um, yeah, when we all decide on
a title and how does that work? Well, there was
a title, but then like they have to go back
because then that they didn't like the title. So now
it's just we're trying to figure it out right now.
So I actually had a title call yesterday. Yeah I know,
but Katherine went came to the studio to watch you dance.
(01:29):
Yeah I was. I mean, you're good, um for not
being a dancer. Thanks, You're very good at dance. That's
like those like someone else just gave me a really
great backhanded compliment the other day. Was that what mine was?
I'm sorry, no, no, but you know what I mean.
It's one of those I can't remember it. Oh man,
oh oh, I remember it was about dancing. The choreographer.
(01:50):
He goes, so I remember watching your Dancing with the
Star stuff, and he goes, We're just going to focus
on your your top half because and I was just like,
oh okay. It was like so kind of but then
I remember like Glad yelling at me, be like a
stronger legs, and I'm like I can't. So I'm just like, yep,
(02:11):
focus just on my you have strong legs. So yeah,
but they like they're like Bambi when I dance. Okay,
And I've also learned I can't to hip hop, so
there's that really. Oh and my boyfriend also came to
the studio and he came during the hip hop stuff
and I kept being like, for some reason, the hip
stop move. But he is here, So I feel like,
(02:36):
what you're staring at him? What he done? Done? Done?
Should we have him? Come on? Ian, he's so nervous.
I love it. Come on, you don't have to. That's
a thing like I'm not am I forcing you to
do this? Okay, because it's clear, make sure. But he
(02:59):
knows she's not forcing it. I'm not forcing him to
do this, but he's gonna come stary in the middle. Yeah,
come on, you got this? Okay, Hey, everyone welcome. I
chinnelli on wine down nervous. Yeah, he got it. He's
(03:20):
this is are you bringing back you? Like? I feel
like I'm watching me podcasting. It's it's uncomfortable, I understand. Um,
So everyone wants to know the gymnastics story. So do
you want to give the gymnastic story? Um? The gymnastic
story before that? Okay? Um, when we met at Urban Air.
(03:48):
I think you asked me if I knew you? Well actually,
and we gotta go back back, so we'll tell that story.
Tell the story. How much of the gymnastics am I telling?
Like we seeing me before you even saw me at
Urban Air? Okay, okay? Trying to follow it to So
I saw a hot mom, very aggravated with her child.
(04:14):
Two children, but one was sitting on the floor trying
to tie her shoes or put her shoes on, and
and the hot mom was just not having it. Hot
mom turned out to be Jane. So then a few
days later, then go ahead, about a week later, Um,
we had been introduced at Urban Air. So I walked
(04:36):
into Urban Air. I brought my daughter to a mutual
friends kid's birthday party, and across the room, I see
the hot mom who was aggravated with her child looked
even hotter. So nobody dresses up or wears leather jackets
doing a kid's birthday party. It was a Halloween thing,
and I wore a really cute like did you know
(05:00):
it was? I was comping cozy but it was like
I wore this cute little like spider jump suit and
then I was like wow, this isn't cute the little
low jacket. So I did, and I was in jeans
and a T shirt from the gym. So but then
it's okay. So then that was the hot mom and
then um, we're going to have Sean and Andrew on
so they can tell the rest of that story. But
(05:22):
do you have any questions for Ian because Mark's not here?
So this is good. It's a good like intern having Mark. No,
we don't need Mark on here, but not for the
first one. I don't think I can do. Okay, here's
something that before Sean and Andrew pop on which I
was dealing with something the other day. And the two
plus two things, Yeah, explain that. What do you what
(05:51):
do you want to explain? Like of rationale behind the
two plass two uh two plus teak was five. It's
basically like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like don't
sweaterver things. Don't get worked up about things. If somebody
tells you to plus to his five, fine, believe him,
move on. It does not matter what they say. How
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you respond to people's on you, and so if you
want to argue with them, you can argue them all
day long. If they tell you Toplos to his five. Okay,
you're right, move on to the next thing. Hard. No,
it's so hard because I was like, tell it because
we were I was dealing with the situation could be
a co parenting situation and it could be. And he
(06:34):
was just like, what's two plus two? And I said four?
Hees no, it's not, it's five. And I was like, no,
it's not, it's four, jeez. And he's like, and he's
the math guy, like, you're like super smart at math.
So I was just like, but it's He's like, why
are you even You're wasting your time. Yeah, it's so hard.
(06:54):
I mean, that's so good. Good. Like now, I'm always
like especially with it's like with the kids, with like
my act, it's like two plass too, it's five because
it just doesn't matter. Why fight it? I remember it? Um, Okay,
I'm so glad Riley. I was going to tell you
that it's not Drew. I mean, it's not Dave. But um,
(07:16):
it's it's fine. I know. I was just like, I'm
just gonna let her go with this one. Um, but
we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna get
Sean and Andrew on and we'll tell the rest of
the story. We're back. So we have Sean and Andrew on,
(07:42):
so excited. Um, First of all, I just because I
remember when I was on it was just your podcast
at the time, right Andrew? And then what was it
called again? Direct? Direct? We directed? I'm sorry, but I'm
so a couple of things is ingrained in my brain now.
So but I came on your show, and I remember
(08:03):
you were like trying to convince Sean to have a podcast, right, yeah, yeah,
and I didn't. I failed that. So I just started
one anyway and said, hey, you have a podcast now, Sean,
and he started five days after I gave birth to Drew.
I was pissed. You were like, we need to record
a podcast today. So you did it without her permission
(08:25):
for real? Yeah? Yeah, well I will. I'll give this caveat.
I had agreed to doing a podcast. I had not
agreed to doing a podcast. Then, yeah, that's yeah, so
he took some liberties there. Why that why that timing?
(08:47):
Did you just like not think because this is like
that's such a man thing to do, like not to
recognize like the healing of like having a baby, and
there's no better time than to start right now exactly.
I got you freaking my guy gets it. But I
also agree to there's there's not a lot of logic
behind it. Was just, hey, this feels right. We're going
with the way Andrew operates is he's like, I have
(09:08):
an idea, it's started today, and then I literally chase him.
I'm like the person chasing him in business, just trying
to like make it look good. I mean I kind
of agree with that because that's kind of my mentality
to where it's like, you know, I think we're definitely
dreamers and we want to do it now. Like why
would you guys have always connected on this? You guys
just are like serial starters, which we could never finish
(09:31):
anything perfectionist. But um, well, so this is Ian's first
time being on wind down and he needs a little
I think he needs podcast period, holding holding a mic.
So I'm trying to teach him to like, you know,
first podcast, first podcast. It only makes sense. I was
(09:53):
hoping for this, Yeah, just for you guys, because you
guys are the reason why we're together. Yes, so technically Andrew,
that was that was all Andrew, because he's doing that.
Came over to me and he's like, what do you
think about in Janet? I gave Sean the nod I
like pointed about to you, and then I was like yeah,
(10:19):
and then I know. And then Andrew comes running over
to me and he's like, Okay, so there's this guy
here that I want you to meet, and he's over
there in the orange shirt and just so casually I
had like stared at him, you know, the last thirty minutes,
but I was and then um, I was just like,
(10:42):
well do you Is he interested in me? And like
this is such a typical guy thing, but you were
like I don't know. And I'm like, why didn't you
go to him first? Because now you're going to go
to him and what if he's like has a girlfriend
or not interested or like you know, I was Internet,
are done his due diligence there. I feel like you
and you and ud knew each other well enough, like
Andrew was aware you didn't have a girl. Also fun
(11:07):
story and probably killed me later for this. I remember
the first time Andrew met you Ian and he came home,
He's like, I have a man crush. It's this guy Ian.
And then every Saturday he's like I would ask him
like where are you going? Like the Navy seal everyone
(11:27):
and you and I vibe on the dreaming perspective things.
But Ian and I vibe because I showed up and
here I thought that I was like a pretty good
athlete in pretty good shape, and then I'm Ian, who's
quite literally at least twice as fit and athletic as
I am. But he also like puts. So you know,
I've been around natural talent athletes and that's one thing
(11:49):
Ian has that but he also works super hard, and
so I just immediately had a high level respect for Ian,
and I was like, all right, this is a dude
that I want to I was immediately attractive. I'm still
trying to appreciate that. No, I mean you guys, you
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guys have your datter days on Saturdays. I feel like
we need to do something. Sean pays that, like they're
with wine Wednesdays. Absolutely, can it involve wine. Though we're
now working out, we're good, Like we're yeah, we can
work out and have wine on Wednesdays. There we go.
I'm trying to think what would a tally count look
like for the number of bottles of wine we've drank
(12:32):
with Jannah. I think it's over tin. What do you
think I've done that? I've done that in a week.
So we went through like justly remember going home and
I was like, I feel terrible. That was a fun night.
What then we were both doing handstands in your kitchen?
So did you do that? We still need to compete,
(12:53):
by the way, Yes, actually those today? That scares me.
What What did you say about the wine? You've never
had so much? What when we first started dating, I
had never had so much wine and salads of my
entire life salads, Yeah, you have the key wine. Yeah,
that's a salad. You feel good about drinking lots of
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so Okay, a couple of things I did there? Um,
what has been the hardest part working together on this podcast?
Hold on? What? We can't just talk about Ian and
not have Ian talk about himself. It's not your interview,
but we're going to get there later. Right now, we're interviewing, y'all. Okay, Yeah,
(13:45):
we've got I've got plenty. You can interview Ian if
you want for the last part of this segment. You
can then interview the in. Okay, there we go, But
right now it's having a couple of things. Uh, I
feel like working together. It was difficult at first. It
still is difficult, but we've gotten so much practice at it,
so many reps that the most difficult things we've figured
(14:06):
out how to navigate or communicate around. So I think
it's getting better. But I think it's a huge honor, honestly,
to like get to know my wife and in like
a unique way that typically marriages don't. Like you don't
usually spend all day every day with your partner and
you don't really see how they are using their gifts
(14:28):
and talents on a day day basis. But with Sean,
I do. And yes, there's like annoyances that come with
working with your spouse, but at the end of the
day your opinionated. Yeah, but and you make things difficult.
But but do you think the difficult nos or the
difficulty and that like what she does is actually makes
(14:51):
it better? Yeah, Hunter, Yeah, it would be a train
wreck over here, but it still makes it difficult. May
see good about my side work. I would also add
something that we're still working on we have a really
hard time with. I'd say it's like the one issue
that we um probably will forever work on, just because
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we both love to work so much is differentiating husband
and wife and then like coworkers. So it's hard like
if we're eating dinner at the end of the day,
that's usually when we're supposed to be husband and wife.
But if I had to ask him like a coworker
question or vice versa, it's hard to know who I'm getting.
So if he if he makes a critique, is it
(15:32):
like is this my is this my business partner critiquing
a business partner, or is this husband critiquing wife? Like
it's those lines get very very blurred and trying to
like distinguish what times and what parts of the day
we get either. I think it's for us been the
hardest part. But I think I'll ask us to do
(15:52):
you do you think, um, when you do have that disagreement,
is it hard? Because I know for me, like when
I worked with my like it was when we were
in it, it was hard to work, you know, and
be present and be authentic. Is it like, how do
you guys like kind of snap out of it or
is it just like are you able to be like, Okay,
we're working, like let's drop the emotion or whatever. Oh
(16:13):
like when we're in an argument. Yeah, yeah, no, that's
definitely the case. It's like we have to resolve like
personal stuff because we're like we're filming stuff this you
can't jump on a podcast and be pissed at each
other and then try to ask questions. And you know,
we've had it happened a few times where like we
aren't able to resolve it before we're supposed to do something,
(16:35):
and we're just like, we can't fake this and it's
not healthy to fake it. So we're just like we're done.
We're not going to do it today. I mean, that's
something that I wish I would have done because man,
and I'm like, because I'm like, then people here and
they're like, clearly they were at each other's that day,
you know, because you'll try to just keep going. Yeah,
it makes it worse because if you start getting used
to like faking that on camera. I don't know. I
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think that that just plays into like the relationship when
you're off camera. But one thing is for sure, Janna,
you know, she sometimes she gets the business partner, sometimes
she gets the husband. But you can bet at the
end of the night she gets Rico Suave. Yeah, non
serious answer was coming out of that. Yeah, but you
(17:25):
know what I think is. I mean, obviously you guys
enjoy working together. You guys have found your your thing
and you know you've what's what are you guys gonna
be working on a book next? Hm? I'm still learning
how to read. So we have actually talked about doing
a book, but we have such a hard time even
like on our show of we want to make sure
(17:49):
we draw the line in the sand that we are
never trying to teach anything because we don't know it.
We truly don't. We don't know anything about like this
is how you should do marriage or this is how
you should do relationship. So trying to figure out how
to write a book where we're not trying to teach something, well,
that kind of goes into my next thing is what
is one thing that you guys, like, what is it
(18:09):
that you're wanting to offer other couples? Like is there
something where it's like this has worked really well for
us and you want people to know that, or do
you just want people to like see fun and light,
which they'd see, but also like is there something where
you're like because we all learned something, yeah, we don't know.
You were not therapists, but we're still, is there something
that you guys do really well together that would be
helpful for other couples? Um? Well, I view all content
(18:35):
on the range of like education on one in entertainment
on the other. We definitely try to keep things more
light and enjoyable and on the entertainment side of things. Um.
But I would say our goal with like what we're
trying to offer is really just be a starting point
for conversations uh the other couples can have. So like
(18:55):
we gotta we went on this tour, this like sixth
day tour, um, which is so fun, like get to
meet people, but hearing the stories of how they would
listen to a podcast episode and they had been in
an argument and then we mentioned something that like touched
the nerve or or like sparked a laugh and then
snap them out of that because you know, sometimes we
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need an argument. Alls you need is like a third
party perspective to get you out of that rut. So
if we could be that and and provide that for people,
then I would count that as a huge one. I
think we're also slightly like blindly going into it and
navigating it. Um. We started the show because we got
(19:37):
really annoyed with the perfection that press tries to portray
relationships as and we got really tired of then painting
this picture that if you don't do your relationship a
certain way, it's not going to work. And we believe
that every single relationship is different and can overcome anything,
like if that relationship like once, like it's just different.
(19:59):
Every relationship is to friends, and I think for us,
we just have had a really good time learning how
each individual relationship works. And we've just learned a lot
from other people that has like constantly helped our relationship.
Do you guys have boundaries and like what you share
and what you don't share? Yes, yeah, kind of. I
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think we don't talk about anything that we haven't already
worked through, So like we can't be working through something
live on a show. It has to be resolved and
we have to be like in a good space, and
then we don't. We don't get like raunchy, like sexual
that stuff always kind of like you don't really like
(20:45):
talking about that, do you? Like? In general, I'll talk
about it with friends and stuff. I don't care as
far as like I feel like to a certain extent,
you can only share so much your life before your
life becomes the world and not your own up. And
like we try to keep at least that to ourselves. Sure,
(21:05):
I think we would have way less boundaries if it
wasn't for Sean. And I'm thankful for Sean to set
the boundaries. But like for me, anything that happens, I
like view it as part of the plot. It's like, oh,
this is an unfolding. I mean again, but also I've
learned that that is can be harmful to a relationship,
(21:28):
having that much detail out because it is you were more,
you're you're picked apart more, you have more eyes to
pick apart things because once you say it, you put
it out there, you can't really get it back. But
but you could probably test to this, tell me if
I'm wrong. It's also you have more loyalty, Like there there,
(21:49):
you definitely open yourself up. But that's the whole thing
with being vulnerable right where it's like, yeah, you can
get crushed, but you can also be supported in a
way that you otherwise couldn't be. Right. No, very very yeah,
I mean you have super loyal fans. Yeah they're very loyal. Yeah,
very very very loyal for sure. But again the people
that don't know me or don't know certain things, like
(22:11):
they just see like a headline. Then that gets picked
apart because I was too open or to this or whatever,
or I misspoke or I you know, said, I mean
there are some things that were spoken about last podcast.
I'm like, man, I should have thought about before I spoke.
I use my words a little differently, you know. So
I think that can be. It's just hard when you
put things out there. Yes, But I also think that's
(22:32):
super super refreshing because people like to play this, people
like to believe in act like we're all perfect and
we should know exactly what we're saying when we say it,
and we should know everything in the world and how
to be politically correct and how to make everybody happy
and when we're all human and we don't. So yeah,
I think that's really refreshing and speak your mind. Yeah,
(22:54):
And I have a question for you, Um, is it
is it worrisome to you that I am so open um?
Not exactly and I knew that kind of getting involved
in this, but you haven't really shared too much about it, right,
Like is there something where you're like, hey, like this
(23:16):
isn't like off boundaries or like, don't talk about our
relationship or because I mean I haven't. I haven't really,
I've been pretty like, um, I don't know I've ever
been involved. I don't think about that now all of
them tonight should I? But I mean I said I
was going to be more private in this relationship when
(23:38):
it came to issues or things that came up because again,
like I saw the but again, I do also believe
that people have issues in every relationship. You know, like
just like you guys. You guys didn't deal with the
O our neighbors stuff for our stuff, but hey, you
have your own stuff, and it's refreshing to hear that
you guys fight. It is I love you. They're so
(24:00):
beautiful and happy and like it's it's I don't know,
it's kind of makes me feel better. Well, I think
the majority of people like to hear that. But you're
always going to have those those critics. You're always going
to have those people that are like, you didn't do
it perfect, and I'm going to attack you because you
didn't do it the way I think you should have.
But I don't think that that should hold you back either.
I've even shared that too before, where One of the
(24:21):
reasons why I was really excited about this is kind
of like what you just said, Janna Um. When we
got engaged, I asked one of my close friends here
in Nashville. I was like, Okay, what do I need
to like prepare for with marriage? What arguments, like, what transition,
what hardships? And she was like, oh, me and my
husband have never fought. And I was like, Okay, that
(24:42):
makes me feel terrible because like we had argued. And
I think what's refreshing is like having all of these
conversations with people who have been together for however many
years or overcome whatever, or gone through separation happily or
married like everything. It's just relatable and it makes you
feel like, Okay, I've got a that I can use
(25:03):
to get through it. I guess I'm just saying out
loud though, because I do think there there's a stipulation
in my mind of like it's almost like gossiping about
yourself can happen where you can just unfiltered share of things, right,
And we've done that in the past on social media
and we've learned from it. And like I think sending
whatever issue or conflict or problem you're having through an
(25:25):
initial like filter of you're dealing with it can be
really helpful and all because you want to talk about
issues with friends with the hopes of resolving them or
learning something new or you know, with the positive outcome
in mind, not with like the echo chamber of oh,
you know what, Sean said this to me and I'm
(25:45):
talking to my friend about it and he's like, I
can't believe she did that to you, and she sucks
like it should never be And so you don't want
to You don't want to create that in your life.
You know what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Makes sense? Ye?
Have have? Yeah, how is dating a celeb been for you?
(26:12):
It's been different. It's a it's been really good. But
I don't really get too caught up in the limelight
of stuff. Like every now and then she's been like, hey,
we were on this, and I'm like, okay, I just
don't I don't see it. I don't look it up.
I don't you know I met every once in a a
while she's just like, oh, I just have like the
top song in the world for like four days. I
(26:35):
will I will say that was pretty cool. It was
actually really cool. So and she downplayed it way too much,
and she tries to, you know, make my things that
I do way more important than what she's doing. I'm like,
you have the best song, the number one song and everything,
and it's like every couple of hours, I would look
it up again and make sure that the time kind
(26:56):
of scrolled through to make sure that it was updated,
and then I would take a screenshot and send it
to her and like, well, it'll it'll be different by
you know, tonight, or be different by tomorrow morning. Well,
I like up three five in the morning, it's still there,
so like, well, it didn't change. And so it went
on for a couple of days, but it was it
was very cool to see that. Um, that was sweet
of you. Otherwise I want to say I would say
one thing. Okay, it's just like, oh my gosh. So
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I have another friend in a very similar position to you, Jianna,
and you both are kind of going through a very
similar jurney at the same exact time. And I almost
like cry the other day watching her journey because her
new boyfriend is like celebrating her for the first time
and she's never had that. And then watching you and
ian like you're being celebrated and you're being allowed to
(27:39):
be who you are, and I think it's it's just
really really sweet and really cool. You have the number
one song in the world. Are you kidding me? Don't
don't play that had but um, you know, it was sweet.
And when I told him, I was like, never like,
has anyone like anyone that I was ever with like
sent you know, like even my acts, like I never
(27:59):
like got celebrated like when things were like that. So
I always downplayed it because I'm like, oh, it must
not be a big deal, you know. So it's it's
a huge deal to have the number one so okay, okay, okay,
but it was. It was very it was very sweet,
and I, you know, I really do appreciate it because
(28:19):
you know, he need's like I want to celebrate it
with you, and I'm like, I just again because I have,
I do downplay it because it wasn't I mean, you know,
it wasn't important or celebrating. Have you heard of Beyonce
in common? You guys are on the same level. Okay, Okay,
(28:40):
but no, actually you're not. You're higher than beyond everybody.
But I think he's done. I think He've done a
good job though handling things. And I mean because people
were calling him a trainer, He's like he's a Navy
seal like people, it's like a poor guy was labeled
as a trainer. That a trainer, not that a trainer
isn't a problem, but it's a Instagram had like me
(29:02):
at the gym, like andrewing, like, why do I detail
what I do for actual livings? So I just I mean,
it's okay. We we did a video jay where we
had to google ourselves to see like what was right,
and the website put Andrew's professionist family member, he's along
for the ride. And I but you do show up
(29:26):
to the gym sometimes and guys will give you a
hard time, right, I was like, you know every Saturday
morning stop really, yes, you better, you better fix this.
I don't know. It's all good things, but it's but
it's because there's headlines and stuff. Oh no, no, it's
just it's been a it's been a fun trip, especially guys.
(29:48):
I mean, you work out. These guys um to have
fun and enjoy it and give each other a hard time,
and and we do that and no matter what it is,
I mean, you know, we've Trevor or Jamie whoever might be,
you know, hard time, whatever happened in the week or
the day and stuff like that. So yeah, it's been
a little bit different for that. Um, but everybody's kind
of acknowledged obviously dating Janna, and they were all excited
(30:09):
because I think all of their wives all follow Janna
as well. So it's kind of like, hey, she had
number one song and they'll find out because they didn't know,
and then they'll tell of anyone Like I know, dude,
it's been the hardest part about dating me because love
(30:32):
that that changes the lave hardest part about dat. You
can be honest too. We're gonna get there. Yeah, I mean,
there's just it's two very different personalities and two very
different lifestyles. Like some of the things in the beginning,
you know, my background of I mean even the little
things like me getting up at three four in the morning,
(30:52):
that's not for me. We can't be doing that every day.
It's like she might be up a little bit later.
I like to get about eight o'clock. You know, just
little things like that where it's kind of get used
to each other. Um, And I guess that's not my boundary,
but it's more of just kind of understanding like her
needs my needs. Um, we didn't address those right away
and that was definitely a difficult thing to get to.
(31:13):
Once we finally got to, it was kind of like,
all right, well I need this in my day in
my week, and she needs this in her day in
her week. And I think once we we went on
a very long walk one day we did. We went
like a four hour walk and just a long walk,
and well we just I think like when you start
in a relationship, you know, you like he was just
(31:35):
trying to make me happy. I was dealing with, you know,
being in a healthy relationship post which I think that's
also hard for him because he's like I'm not your
ax um. So I think like that's been really difficult
on him because, like my therapist says, she's like, you
gave him shrapnel without him like being in a war. Like, yes,
you were in a war a long time, but like
in this war, she's like, he's getting like shrapnel and
(31:58):
he wasn't a part of your war, but that's like
the leftover stuff. So like, you know, I think being
in something that is healthy now, like he has he's
like trying to differentiate the two and like letting someone
like in it's it's been like difficult for him because
I've tried to push him away so many times. She tried,
(32:19):
I did. I did a hurricane hurricane Spartan race Andrew.
Andrew signed us up a hurricane heat Spartan race, and I, yeah,
we'll gladly never do that again, which was hard aware that, oh,
for sure, you're pushing me. It was more difficult mentally. Emotionally.
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We thought like I signed all the guys up for it,
and I was like, that's gonna be so cool. And
it was like advertise like the hardest race you could
you could ever do, and it basically said like you
need the mental grit of a Navy seal, dude, and
it was like, it turns out that from an actual
Navy seal, which was it was easier than expected, but
(33:06):
it was a hilarious story. I do even so one
thing that I had to navigate with Sean, She's like
not our interview, no, no, but no, I like where
you going with this because I'm gonna I'm gonna turn
it back around after you say this, because I think
I know where you're going with that, I am hijacking
the interview. You are Ian, it's just not talking a lot.
So I got I'm trying. It's not about me, it's
(33:26):
about you guys. So that that was exactly. Yeah, dating
Sean was like I loved her, right, and I knew
that I love Sean, but there's and there's the excitement
of dating, but then there's also like this layered excitement
(33:47):
of she's like famous and people will stop her on
the street and they want to talk, and it's like
there's this level of excitement that comes with being in
the public eye. And it was I felt like I
needed to take a step back and be like, all right,
what part of me is interested in this relationship because
of that excitement versus the excitement of actually the love
(34:11):
of Sean. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
if if you resonate with that at all, but that
was something that I had to Maybe I'm more shallow,
but you're also a college kid. Yeah that'd be way different. Yeah,
I don't I don't think I could have handled it
it twenty one or whatever, you guys got together twenty two?
Are you with me just because of my Instagram followers,
and I didn't know how many Instagram followers, you know
(34:34):
what I'm saying, Like now to his point, like do
you is it like do you love me for me?
Or do you love like obviously not gonna be like yeah,
actually because it's cool because you're famous. No. I mean
I told you in the beginning, I would have deleted mine.
I don't need it. It's not for me. It's you know,
half the time, it was like Andrew would come in
on my stuff, like Jamie would come on my stuff.
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You know, it's like us working out. It's about it.
It has been different as far as the notoriety, not
me obviously, but for her. I think the one that
I remember is like we were on the beach visiting
your mom and some girl just with her boyfriends, sitting
by themselves, no one around. We're walking past and the
kid pops up. He's like, hey, my girlfriend loves you,
(35:17):
and I'm like, well, that's a different life. Yeah, Because
for me, I didn't have social media since two eight,
so I had been completely off of it and military
I'm just kind of very quiet and went about my
day and it's not like that anymore. What Okay, I'm
gonna flip the background. What is one thing that you
(35:38):
guys do better than I'm sure there's a lot, but
that um in the beginning of dating, you know, like
in our early stages, that you do better now or
you wish that you'd go back, or you tell us
like hey, like watch this, or like we do better now.
I think we communicate better. Yeah, I think I almost
(36:03):
identifying patterns in marriage. Like we've been married six years,
so we've we've had the same argument about a certain
topic like forty times, right, So what is it? Can
you say what it is? Anything? Okay? What's what's one
of the ones that always keeps coming up? Ah? The dog? Honestly,
(36:24):
as ridiculous as that sounds, like it, I feel like
that's gotten better lately. What's up with the dog? Oh?
I just dogs are actual royalty to me. So like
I'm a psycho dog person. Okay, Like I said, A
and a dog, and I was like, you have to
get this dog because I just try to find dog homes,
dogs homes and and where's your stance dogs? But I
(36:50):
like kind of view it as a dog. We're the same,
Like I love it, right, and I'm going to do
my best to take care of it. The dog will
sleep in the bed before I will, So that's literally
like my dog. It's kind of it has kind of
correlated to kids ish, where like Sean has the way
(37:11):
she expresses her love, and again I know this through patterns,
like seeing this over and over is through being like
hands on and always like being there to help, whereas
I'm kind of like, ah, you gotta figure it out,
go you can do it, you know. So is the
argument that Sean gets frustrated with you because you don't
treat the dog like she does, or you're upset because
(37:32):
she treats the dog like royalty. The argument is that
I expect more of him he treats dogs, or it's
like with kids. I am definitely more of like the warrior,
and so I'm like, oh my gosh, you cannot let
her do that, or you can't she's gonna get hurt,
or she has to go to bed at a certain
time or whatever it might be. I'm just more like
(37:54):
I'm graduled on the moms. I hear you on the moms. Yeah,
the dog thing more una but shouldn't have grouped the
dog and the dog anyway? What we do now, is
(38:15):
like we we have developed patterns where it's like, hey,
the morning with Sean, I shouldn't throw a bunch of
logistics her way because the past two hundred times that
I've done that, uh, it overwhelms her right Or like
at night, she really Sean really likes to debrief her day,
so I need a instead of jumping right into whatever
(38:36):
I want to do next, Like I should sit down
and have time with her to talk as opposed to
their being conflict in place of that, so that that
probably would be it. I don't I don't like getting
asked questions. Do you guys like that? For some reason,
it's like what are you doing? I'm like, I like,
you have my schedule? I don't know, Like just like
you and Andrew are the same human, don't ask me questions.
I'm like, you figure it out or look at my
(38:57):
calendar or I don't know. It's just like I'm like,
I got like a million other things in my head
right now. I don't have to ask questions. Yeah, Andrew's
biggest pet peeves if I'm like, what do we have
to do today? And here I don't know, I don't know.
(39:19):
He just doesn't want to questions freak him out too.
I can kind of tell her facial expressions. Now, it's
like I can tell when she's busier. There's a thousand
things going on her head. I'm like, I'm just not
gonna ask a question right now. That's good. I'm gonna
go out again. Well, I'm gonna go back and work.
But it's kind of like, I know when her face
looks like that, I can ask her a question. When
(39:40):
it's not like that, I don't ask a question. That's kind.
But she does like to ask questions though, if I
really need to know them, like what's two plus two? Five?
Every time? We'll get there later. It's one of those
(40:04):
things where we I was dealing with something the other
day and I was trying to have this person see
my reality, and Ian goes, what's two plus two? And
I said four? He goes, no, it's five. I'm like, no,
it's not poor, but like the other person's reality, it's five. Yeah.
So it's going, okay, okay, you're right, it's fine, let's
move on, and his mind is blown. Right, just six
(40:30):
years of us trying to figure out all in one
simple bathic version again. So now next time when you
guys go to a fight, so like if not that
we like have like I mean, we had like one
thing just because again it was like misunderstandings and not
speaking what we need, but like being like if there's
even like a little like tiff, it's like two plus
(40:52):
two and then it kind of like yeah, resets like that.
That's good. I like that, You're welcome, Thank you. I
do think most of our arguments come from a misunderstanding
of what the other person is trying to say. Well,
I think I promised we don't ask for what we need.
We're my thing is and I'm like, I'm not asking
you actually what I need. I'm wanting you to read
(41:12):
my mind. But I know what but it's like, yeah,
don't shake your head like that, Mr same if you
did the same thing to me. Um, But yeah, I
hear you on that too. It's it's it's you know,
but we're working on it. I think it's what Shaun
said earlier about um when you are asking like a
business question, but then you're getting a personal response from
(41:35):
man Andrew. You're asking a personal question which you might
get a business response from me Andrew. It's kind of
like what what mind frame are you, And it's also
how are you responding to it? So I may ask
her something with an intent in a certain way and
expect a certain response I'm looking for one, but she
may not be in the same mental state whatever it
might be that it's a good or bad men as
I'm saying, like whatever is going on in her head.
(41:55):
So if you have a business question that it's kind
of like where I guess a worker being with kids
for us, because our emotions get confused a lot when
we'll be working, and like when Andrew works, he goes
like completely void of all emotion and feelings. He just
goes stone cold, and our emotions get really confused when
(42:15):
I come in as like wife where I've taken like
a breakout of the day, and I'm like wife and
I want to ask him something like wife to husband,
and he gives me a cold response that makes me
really upset when I'm expecting him to turn it off
and all of a sudden, husband, when he's in the
middle of his work day, thank you so much. I
am aware right now after are the two plus two?
(42:46):
That's what it was? I wonder if it is it simple?
Is it something as simple as saying like what do
you what response do you need as your husband or
is your or is your employee or as and or
is your coworker me like a little badge that you
just turn around, you know, like what response do you need?
(43:07):
You know, like, hey, I need you to like not
make a joke or whatever. I don't know because that
me asking that would come off as cold if I
was like, what do you need from me, husband or
because then I the crazy woman would be like I
expect you to know what I need and I don't
want to ask for it because I don't want to
ask my husband to give me love. Yeah, it's a
whole thing. Why don't you know what I'm thinking? Look
(43:29):
at Ian showing up all mature and freaking with with advice. Well,
it's like I do think there's like a stubbornness though
to to I guess I could generalize it as women,
but whatever, um people people know I think it's a woman.
(43:49):
I really, I really, it's almost like a pride issue.
I don't want to tell him what I need because
I want him to give it to me, because I
then feel desperate. I'm like, I need to tell you
that I want to cuddle with you on the couch
like that makes me feel pathetic. Yes, in actuality, it's
actually a healthy thing to do. Yeah, it is the
right thing to do is to say, which needs really
(44:10):
hard because I know it'll be like, what do you
need dinner on the house And I'm like, I don't
want to have to tell you what I need done.
I want you to see you need to and how
I need to, you know all of it exactly. I
need the one box in the attic in the back
corner that's three seasons away. I gotta say, it's pretty
good that he's asking, what do you mean done around
(44:30):
the house? I hear you. But that is very that
is very sweet, totally and I love that. And it's
very sweet having said that. One thing that I did say,
there's still not rock right after um no, but I do.
(44:51):
I hear you. It's it's hard to be like can
you because then we feel like we're like naggy annoying,
But like you guys, guys are just they don't they'd
be like, okay, so absolutely, I'll caddle you like you
probably wouldn't think that was like if if me and
you know, if Sean Andrew whatever, like we were like,
can you please scuttle with me tonight? Does that seem needier? Like,
oh my goshly thanks for telling me. You've literally told
(45:11):
me that exact thing. Well, you get this way, but
like if I'm having a bad day or whatever and
I ask that, then I go all crazy and I'm like, well,
is he actually caddling me because he wants to? And
then I get all like crazy one. All right, well
so tell I mean, obviously our listeners know you guys,
(45:34):
but like where can they listen? Where can they follow?
One of my favorite TikTok's is when you guys changed
the car the seats in the car. That was hilarious.
I watched it like five times, so funny. But go
ahead give it all pretty much, Sean Johnson. That is
the best place to look for. Just google that You've
come across some stuff The East Family on YouTube. And
(45:56):
then we have a podcast called A Couple of Things. Yeah,
I'm so excited and we would love to come on
as well. I think we're ready to come on. We
do it in person, though, Yeah, come on over, come
onl coome on first and we'll drink drink Yeah, perfect,
(46:17):
all right, Well, thank you guys so much for coming
on the show. I appreciate it. Okay, see you guys soon,
Thank soon, Yes, please, thanks guys. Bye, Honey's Texas. We'll
figure it out with you all right. By guys. Didn't
(46:40):
you do the cross with thin? He beat everybody? Well?
That was a fun episode. How does that feel in
(47:01):
Haven't if your first mic in your hand, it's I
don't want to do with it. It's awkward, Yeah, holding
it very weird. I feel like I can only look
at you and I just kind of look at a
bit kind look at I just look at who I
was talking. Yeah. Is it coming from someone who had
like the hardest job ever? They don't have a camera
(47:22):
in my face or a microphone, had a gun? Very different.
Can I ask you one question? In the seal training
for is it called hell week? Hell week? What was
the hardest thing you had to overcome? Like they gass you,
they make you be underwater for four and a half minutes,
(47:42):
they like, what is like? What was the one thing
where you're like, because not many people like you said
pass the first round? Right? First phase in hell week?
Or is where everybody pretty much quits so forever? What's
the percentage that like first timers. Oh, um, I think
it's around between eighty five drop radar. I look at
(48:07):
it so um. I know the last class that went through,
I believe it was started with two and they finished
with seventeen guys. Wow. And was there like in that
week or the first phase, like where is there a
point where you were like this is hard or this
is going to make me drop? Um? I never I
think the guys that make it through don't ever really
(48:30):
have that go through their head. The thing for me
was the cold that was not what do you mean
by the cold? I mean you sit in the Pacific
Ocean in the middle of the night for hours on end,
just staring at stars and you're like, well, is this
ever gonna stop? So um. They try to get you
to a somewhat hypothermic state, and we had guys get
(48:52):
dropped of the program because they couldn't raise their body temperatures,
they couldn't control um their mind basically, And so that's
kind of the hardest part for me. Like the physical
stuff is just you work out and then you get
to eat. It's great. It's you know, most twenty year
old guys dreams is you work out all day and
it's a big boy scout camp for the most part,
(49:12):
and you get to eat every couple of hours. But
it was just a cold and you're constantly shaking and
you're just covered in sand head to toe for weeks
straight and you sleep. Uh do you get to eat
the whole time though? Or do they not like try
to prepare you for not eating and you don't sleep? Right,
you don't sleep. You get a time you get use
(49:35):
my handler. You get a time frame to sleep. Not
everybody does. UM. Once you kind of stop moving, your
body starts to shut down and try to recover. So
if you do sleep, once we wake you up, how
long do you get to sleep if you slept? I
don't remember the actual note. I think it was you
get a time frame of like two hours on Wednesday,
(49:56):
so it starts Sunday night. You don't know when it starts.
So basically the whole compound UM if you don't know.
It's in Cornado, California, so UM, a lot of Cornado
hears it. They hear the explosions go off and fake
gunfire blanks that's what they call him, and everything goes off.
Everybody knows is to start a hell week and that
lasts for a couple of hours and then it just
(50:17):
continues on for the whole week. And then uh so
you don't So how long? How many days did you
not sleep for? To start? You don't sleep for three
and a half days straight, I thinks what it is.
And then you get a two hour I think's two
hours two hours to sleep if you do, and then
you're done. After that you don't sleep again. So how
many days did you consecutively? Go send me a Friday
(50:39):
without sleeping? Wow, So you didn't take the two hours? No,
because I was scared about what would happen if I did.
Say that seems could be worse. So I knew. I
heard guys that win in you go into like this tent,
you gotta thank everybody's free. I was a winner. I
was a winter hell week. So I went through in November,
about a week or two weeks before Thanksgiving started. It
(51:00):
was one of the coldest times in Coronado history, and
it was miserable. And the guys that got into the
tent to go sleep, when they would get woken um,
they would get you know, woken up in the morning
or whatever it was, they would quit right there because
they were too cold and too mentally out of it.
So I knew that I didn't want to do that,
(51:20):
take that chance. I don't think I could. Being cold.
The cold is the worst. I had a buddy all
of it sounds, who he he couldn't get his body
temperature up, so they had to drop him because he
wasn't mentally there. But he was one of the best
physical specimens I've ever seen. Like the guy was incredible.
But every time we go in the water, he'd come
out and he would be So we swallow a pill
(51:41):
that they take our temperature and like our core temperature,
and they scan us every time we come out of
the water to make sure see where we're in. If
you're too locally. That's a thing. That's crazy, that that's
mental though. Keeping your body, it's part of it is
because you can you can get into an ice bath
and it can be miserable, or you can kind of like,
(52:04):
all right, I can regulate with my thoughts now to
a certain extent an entire time. But once you get out,
if you're so if you're so cold and you can't
process what you're doing because sometimes you're you know, they'd
ask you to count to a certain number or whatever
and you wouldn't respond to it. So I mean guys
haven't do all the time. So well, thank you for
your service, You're welcome. Thank you for your support. Um,
(52:27):
then thanks for coming on wind down UM a few
minutes Bye guys, are you hye
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Jana Kramer
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